Re: Gnome
Muy sencillo... en el fichero ~/.xsession #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/x-window-manager /usr/bin/gnome-session Un saludo Javi On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 05:32:10AM +0200, Benjamin Encuentra wrote: Hola a todos. Soy MUY novato en linux, así que si mi pregunta es evidente... disculpas. He instalado Debian Potato, empezando por los paquetes mínimos. He ido añadiendo cosas y las X funcionan bien con el gestor de ventanas fwvm (?). Bueno la cosa es que he instalado los paquetes de Gnome con el dselect, pero ahora no sé que tengo que modificar para que me arranquen las X directamente con el escritorio de gnome y sus menús, panel, etc. Gracias anticipadas, Benjamín Encuentra -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Marcar mensajes en mutt
Utilizando la tecla N cambias el estado de Nuevo a Leido y viceversa. Un Saludo Santi At 14:15 Saturday 09/09/00, Lluís Vilanova wrote: Estoy haciendo algunas pruebas con mutt para leer el correo y, usando el formato maildir, al entrar en un buzon, marca en rojo todos los mensajes nuevos que hay en el directorio new, pero al salir de mutt y volver a mirar ese buzon, los mensajes nuevos siguen marcados como nuevos, pero ya no estan de color rojo, sino de color blanco como los otros, aunque siguen marcados como NO leidos (tal y como debe ser) La cuestion es: ¿Como le digo al mutt que me marque los mensajes como no leidos, a parte de con o, mostrandolos de un color diferente? Gracias por vuestra atencion _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Santi Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User #180326
Re: generador de passwords
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Hue-Bond wrote:
El mi=E9rcoles 06 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 16:12:57 +0200, TooMany con=
taba:
=BFExiste alg=FAn paquete que trabaje en conjunci=F3n con el adduser, y =
que
genere autom=E1ticamente una password para el usuario que se cree?
L=F3gicamente, al crearla deber=E1 mostrarla (un poco est=FApido el coment=
ario,
pero por si las fly's)... ;)
No trabaja con adduser, pero como generador de claves creo que
no tiene ning=FAn desperdicio:
$ head -10c /dev/random | md5sum | head -8c
Poblema: no genera letras may=FAsculas ni caracteres especiales.
Y las minúsculas solo son 'abcdef'
Un sencillisimo programita C sería mas eficiente no ?
La verdad con la de estupendos programas para generar claves que
tiene que haber me siento un poco ridículo haciendo esto pero como
parece que se insiste en el tema voy a aportar mi granito de arena.
Está pensado para que se pueda modificar facilmente el conjunto de
caracteres y la longitud de la clave. Espero que sea de utilidad.
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#include stdlib.h
#include stdio.h
#include time.h
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/stat.h
#include fcntl.h
#define LONGPASWD 8
#define CHARS [EMAIL PROTECTED]/()[]=?¿¡!+*.,:;-_
int i, r, rr, fi, longitudchars;
char *pt;
main(){
// srand (time(NULL) ); /** Ojo ** semillas iguales dentro del **/
/** mismo segundo **/
/** Generación de una semilla más segura **/
fi=open(/dev/random, O_RDONLY);
read(fi, rr, sizeof(rr));
close(fi);
srand ( rr );
longitudchars=strlen ( CHARS );
for (i= 0; i LONGPASWD; i++){
r=(int) ((float)longitudchars *rand()/(RAND_MAX+1.0));
putchar(CHARS[r]);
}
}
===8---
Bueno si la inicialización de la semilla se hiciera con time().
Las claves resultaríar identicas cuando se generaran dentro del
mismo segundo.
Just do it.
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Dudas apt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tengo algunas dudas con el apt (soy nuevo con el), que no he podido/sabido resolver con la documentación que viene en la Debian. Me pille la potato en CDs. Tengo 4 equipos en la red local todos con Debian. El caso es que pretendo tener en un directorio exportado vía NFS los paquetes de Debian. Utilice el ncftp para bajarme los ficheros que me faltaban, entre ellos los Packages. El problema es que cuando cambio el sources.list para que tire de esos directorios, no me coge ni un paquete y la estructura de directorios es clavada (vamos que es un mirror). Lo que me gustaría saber es si con apt puedo directamente coger los paquetes y solo de i386 para mantener el mirror, al mismo tiempo que tiro de local para instalarlos en el resto de los equipos. Creo que no me compensa bajarme un paquete cuatro veces... También me gustaría saber si hay alguna FAQ en Internet que explique temas sobre el apt. Gracias. E-Mail: Oriol de la Dehesa Demaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP public key: http://www.icubo.com/oriol.asc Debian 2.2 GNU/Linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5vKzgVFRwayAXvMQRAghdAKCzJtoKIP//v28yFL8giCxxsxHfbACfT9nM Jys+DeSrC+VDmo6czhY1XEA= =lpX7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Dudas apt
Tienes el excelente apot -mini-como de Javi Viñuales en http://www.dat.etsit.upm.es/~jfs/debian/doc/es/contribuciones también replicado en Lucas (http://wlucas.hispalinux.es) Un saludo Javi
KDE de Corel
P.S. ¿Alguien ha probado el KDE de corel? Yo no me molestaria. Al menos en Corel 1.0 esta en un par de paquetes enormes, de forma no standard (muerete para cambiar algo) y todo esta cambiado (incluyendo kde control). Aparte de eso yo no he encontrado donde se cambian los menus (aunque el hecho que yo no lo haya encontrado realmente no quiere decir nada). Todo esto es con Corel 1.0 download, igual ahora es lo mejor que se puede encontrar pero lo dudo mucho. Gabriel --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior
El lunes 11 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 02:03:19 +0200, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez contaba: Yo lo he variado según las indicaciones de dicho COMO y puesto 192.168.1.1 como dirección del router y rango de IP's para mi LAN: 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.250. Hum, si la LAN está del 10 al 250, el 1 no está en la misma red. ¿Cuál es la máscara de subred? Me falta hacer que al llamar a http://195.23.45.123 desde un host exterior a mi LAN se llame al puerto 80 de 192.168.1.10 Eso se llama IP Port forwarding y si el router no lo soporta, olvídate. Pero supongo que sí lo hará. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgp7YKLiwDMGS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior
On lun, sep 11, 2000 at 06:27:40 +0200, Hue-Bond wrote: Hum, si la LAN está del 10 al 250, el 1 no está en la misma red. ¿Cuál es la máscara de subred? Si está, la máscara es 255.255.255.0 Eso se llama IP Port forwarding y si el router no lo soporta, olvídate. Pero supongo que sí lo hará. Me consta que si, por ello estoy que no puedo... -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey pgpRCq5t0HcZU.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: generador de passwords
El lun, sep 11, 2000 at 01:57:38 +0200 Hue-Bond ha dit: El miércoles 06 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 16:12:57 +0200, TooMany contaba: ¿Existe algún paquete que trabaje en conjunción con el adduser, y que genere automáticamente una password para el usuario que se cree? Lógicamente, al crearla deberá mostrarla (un poco estúpido el comentario, pero por si las fly's)... ;) No trabaja con adduser, pero como generador de claves creo que no tiene ningún desperdicio: $ head -10c /dev/random | md5sum | head -8c Poblema: no genera letras mayúsculas ni caracteres especiales. mmm, no poder mezclar mayusculas y minusculas o caracteres especiales, no es solo un poblema: es la frontera entre una password fuerte de otra que no lo es. Lo que hace una herramienta como pwgen es garantizarte siempre passwords fuertes, pero no totalmente aleatorias para que no resulten imposibles de recordar sin apuntarlas: puedes decidir su longitud, si hay o no numerales, e incluso su grado de **legibilidad** (lo cual tiene mas importancia de lo que parece): es decir, puedes generar si lo deseas passwords pronunciables (con vocales intercaladas en sitios precisos), con las mayusculas y los numerales situados en sitios faciles de recordar, todo lo cual facilita muchisimo su memorizacion. Por supuesto, con pwgen tambien tienes la opcion de solo minusculas o de generarlas totalmente aleatorias e impronunciables. un saludo, miquel
Re: Gnome
El lun, sep 11, 2000 at 05:32:10 +0200 Benjamin Encuentra ha dit: Hola a todos. Soy MUY novato en linux, así que si mi pregunta es evidente... disculpas. He instalado Debian Potato, empezando por los paquetes mínimos. He ido añadiendo cosas y las X funcionan bien con el gestor de ventanas fwvm (?). Bueno la cosa es que he instalado los paquetes de Gnome con el dselect, pero ahora no sé que tengo que modificar para que me arranquen las X directamente con el escritorio de gnome y sus menús, panel, etc. invoca gnome-session en $HOME/.xinitrc (ademas del gestor de ventanas en background) o bien instalate el paquete gdm (opcion muy recomendable). un saludo, m.
Re: Ayuda para Linux
El sistema mulinux ocupa 2 diskettes, siendo el segundo necesario para que funciona el sistema X-windows. Obviamente es un Linux muy primitivo pero pensado para que trabaje con las principales herramientas. Un saludo, Iñaki Fdez. On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Egidazu Amaia wrote: Hola !! Soy Amaia y os mando este e-mail en busca de ayuda! Mi problema es el siguiente: Quiero instalar linux (con su correspondiente parche RT) en una flash IDE de 60MB. He leido que si instalo Linux sin la opción de XWindows no necesito más que 20MB de memoria, pero no se si es del todo cierto, ya que no he logrado instalarlo. ¿Realmente puedo meter Linux en 20MB? ¿Qué versión de Linux? Gracias por vuestra ayuda y hasta otra !! AMAIA -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior
El lunes 11 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 18:55:14 +0200, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez contaba: Eso se llama IP Port forwarding y si el router no lo soporta, olvídate. Pero supongo que sí lo hará. Me consta que si, por ello estoy que no puedo... Tendrá que estar en el manual. Mi primo puso él solito un Zyxel para que hiciera el port forwarding y le furrula bien. El router es un RDSI, pero para el caso es lo mismo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpP1zlTotzug.pgp Description: PGP signature
probando
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Ya vale de probar
Hola: Para todos aquellos que estén probando el correo creo que en rediris hay un servidor, echo.rediris.es, que devuelve todo el correo que se le envía. No uséis la lista para eso, por favor. Un saludo. Virgilio
Re: Publicación 'profesional'
El Mon, 11 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: [...] La idea es hacer un librillo (A4 doblados por la mitad y grapados) con la numeración de páginas correcta. Escribo con lyx -pero con cualquier otro editor que genere .ps el problema es el mismo- utilizando la documentclass scrbook (una variante de la clase book). Exporto el fichero a postscript y corro lo siguiente: cat Fichero.ps | psbook | psnup -2 Libro.ps Realmente la cosa sale bien, y debo ser un perfeccionista maniático pero me parece que psnup lo que hace es reducir la 'imagen' (sic; no me regañéis los expertos) para encajarla en la página y el resultado es un tipo de letra prácticamente ilegible (por pequeño). ¿Has especificado el tamaño de página como A5 en el fuente LaTeX (o LyX)? Ten en cuenta que en el libro final las páginas tendrán ese tamaño, y no A4. El que realiza el tipografiado es LaTeX y no psbook ni psnup, así que es LaTeX el que debe saber qué tamaño *real* tendrá la página. Saludos.
Re: generador de passwords
Miquel wrote: El lun, sep 11, 2000 at 01:57:38 +0200 Hue-Bond ha dit: El miércoles 06 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 16:12:57 +0200, TooMany contaba: ¿Existe algún paquete que trabaje en conjunción con el adduser, y que genere automáticamente una password para el usuario que se cree? Lógicamente, al crearla deberá mostrarla (un poco estúpido el comentario, pero por si las fly's)... ;) No trabaja con adduser, pero como generador de claves creo que no tiene ningún desperdicio: $ head -10c /dev/random | md5sum | head -8c Poblema: no genera letras mayúsculas ni caracteres especiales. mmm, no poder mezclar mayusculas y minusculas o caracteres especiales, no es solo un poblema: es la frontera entre una password fuerte de otra que no lo es. Lo que hace una herramienta como pwgen es garantizarte siempre passwords fuertes, pero no totalmente aleatorias para que no resulten imposibles de recordar sin apuntarlas: puedes decidir su longitud, si hay o no numerales, e incluso su grado de **legibilidad** (lo cual tiene mas importancia de lo que parece): es decir, puedes generar si lo deseas passwords pronunciables (con vocales intercaladas en sitios precisos), con las mayusculas y los numerales situados en sitios faciles de recordar, todo lo cual facilita muchisimo su memorizacion. Por supuesto, con pwgen tambien tienes la opcion de solo minusculas o de generarlas totalmente aleatorias e impronunciables. un saludo, miquel -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Una vez que se ha generado la passwd con pwgen, como la encripto para meterla posteriormente en /etc/shadow ó /etc/passwd. Gracias por adelantado. saludos.
Re: generador de passwords
Miquel wrote: El lun, sep 11, 2000 at 11:26:19 +0100 Alberto Rodríguez ha dit: Una vez que se ha generado la passwd con pwgen, como la encripto para meterla posteriormente en /etc/shadow ó /etc/passwd. el programa passwd lo hace automaticamente. Creo que usa la funcion crypt para cifrar. Mas info en man crypt. un saludo, m. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null El problema es que no lo quiero hacer de manera interactiva. passwd funciona de manera interactiva, y yo tengo que crear unas 1500 cuentas de correo... Sabe alguien una manera de realizar esto de forma que no utilize passwd, o bien utilizando passwd pero de forma no interactiva Gracias otra vez. Saludos.
Re: debian.org.br br.debian.org
Gostaria de receber comentários quanto à disponibilidade de mais mirrors nacionais do projeto (www ou ftp ou ambos) e da idéia de criarmos um site para unirmos nossos esforços (e legitimá-los através do domínio *.debian.org.br) desvinculados de qualquer interesse ou nome comercial, que aliás pode muito bem nascer do atual debian-br. Enquanto ninguém cortar minha conta na UFSC, nem formatar o servidor, pode contar com debian.lcmi.ufsc.br. Na empresa que estou atualmente também vamos colocar um link. Daí também vou colocar outro mirror Debian. []'s Helio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix system engineer
Re: debian.org.br br.debian.org
Oi Macan, por enquanto vamos colocar um mirror da debian tambem aqui na LS (Linux Solutions). Enquanto isso vamos tocando o debian-br Quoting Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Gostaria de receber comentários quanto à disponibilidade de mais mirrors nacionais do projeto (www ou ftp ou ambos) e da idéia de criarmos um site para unirmos nossos esforços (e legitimá-los através do domínio *.debian.org.br) desvinculados de qualquer interesse ou nome comercial, que aliás pode muito bem nascer do atual debian-br. Enquanto ninguém cortar minha conta na UFSC, nem formatar o servidor, pode contar com debian.lcmi.ufsc.br. Na empresa que estou atualmente também vamos colocar um link. Daí também vou colocar outro mirror Debian. []'s Helio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix system engineer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Script para execução de aplicações remotas
Oi pessoal Tive a curiosidade (e a necessidade) de executar algumas aplicações gráficas em uma máquina exibindo o resultado (a janela da aplicação sendo executada, como o Netscaoe, por exemplo) em uma outra máquina cliente (o esquema do servidor X ), a qual solicitou a execução da aplicação no servidor remoto. O único problema é que, até o momento, o método para execução remota da aplicação que venho usando é dar um telnet no servidor, exportar a variável DISPLAY para apontar para a estação cliente e executar a aplicação no servidor, dentro de um xterm, por exemplo. O que me falta para automatizar tudo isto através de um shell script (bash) é saber como passar a senha do usuário que se logará via telnet como um parâmetro na linha de comando do telnet. O nome do usuário eu sei que dá pra passar, mas não achei nenhuma opção para passar a senha procurando pela man page do telnet e toda documentação que li sobre o mesmo. Tentei com shh e o mesmo ocorre (não dá - ou não sei como - para passar a senha como parâmetro). Alguém saberia como fazer para passar a senha ? Ou alguém teria uma opção melhor ao uso do telnet ou shh ? André Luís Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://andrelop.ig.com.br
RE: Script para execução de aplicações remotas
On 12-Sep-2000 André Luís Lopes wrote: Oi pessoal Ola, Tentei com shh e o mesmo ocorre (não dá - ou não sei como - para passar a senha como parâmetro). Alguém saberia como fazer para passar a senha ? Ou alguém teria uma opção melhor ao uso do telnet ou shh ? IMHO, utilize o ssh, compile o daemon (sshd) com suporte a X11 Forwarding, e habilite o cliente (ssh). Tudo isso encontra-se na pagina de man e os arquivos de configuracao sao /etc/ssh_config e /etc/sshd_config para a versao 1 do ssh e /etc/ssh2/ssh2_config e /etc/ssh2/ssh2d_config para a versao 2 do ssh. Sobre a senha, gere uma chave RSA (ssh-keygen) sem passphrase e copie o identify.pub da maquina destino para o $USER/.ssh/authorized_keys para a maquina origem. No mais, tem tudo nas paginas de man. :) PS: Sobre o uso xhost, para automatizar coloque o host da maquina origem no arquivo /etc/Xn.hosts da maquina destino. Lembando que n, eh o DISPLAY do X local, geralmente /etc/X0.hosts... ao menos que voce tenha aberto varias sessoes do X localmente, mais isso eh outra historia... :) Abracos, -- Alessandro Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Niteroi/RJ/Brazil
Re: kernel update?
I just did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt downloaded the kernel2.2.17 sources. I've been running 2.2.16 because I had some trouble with the 2.2.17 kpkg that I set up. What kind of troubles? Question is, did apt configure 2.2.17 kernel to be the one that executes when I reboot? If so will it have configured my modules and settings correctly? -- I am confused. You probably referring to 2.2.17 image rather then sources. As far as I remember apt will not make you change your kernel without your approval. What do you mean by `settings'? Are you reffering to the kernel settings? thanks dale -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
Re: kernel update?
Thanks for the reply, I downloaded the 2.2.17 kernel from kernel.org and compiled it, that's actually easier for me than the debian way for now. dale Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I just did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt downloaded the kernel2.2.17 sources. I've been running 2.2.16 because I had some trouble with the 2.2.17 kpkg that I set up. What kind of troubles? Question is, did apt configure 2.2.17 kernel to be the one that executes when I reboot? If so will it have configured my modules and settings correctly? -- I am confused. You probably referring to 2.2.17 image rather then sources. As far as I remember apt will not make you change your kernel without your approval. What do you mean by `settings'? Are you reffering to the kernel settings? thanks dale -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- The major advances in civilization are processes that all but wreck the societies in which they occur. --Albert North Whitehead
RE: hdparm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well you would have to try some combinations before the optimum settings can be found..do this by changing one of the settings and testing the performance using hdparm -t /dev/hdathe higher the value, the better the performance...however, if you are using one of several m/b (the one which I am using is Asus P5A-B), DO NOT enable dma (i.e. -d1) as it will screw up you hardisk i.e. corrupt files on the hardisk (I noticed these files were mainly in the / partition). Use the kernel-patch-ide.deb instead to patch the kernel and enable dma support...(I successfully did this last night)... Also note that not all the parameters set will bring on performance gains for the hardisk e.g setting -mX on my box did not bring on any performace gains and in some cases, enabling -c1 detiorated performance HTH Patrick Cheong Information Systems Assurance Measat Broadcast Network Systems e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my - -Original Message- From: Krzys Majewski [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:19 AM To: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:RE: hdparm How do I know if I need any of these options for my hard drive? Are the kernel/ide driver defaults reasonable? Do these flags improve performance? (Right now I'm just using hdparm -y to spin down the disk) -chris On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I included an additional SXX in the rc2.d dir as follows:- #! /bin/sh # Enabling dma for hda hdparm -d1 -c1 -a1 -A1 -m8 -k1 /dev/hda Remember to chmod the file created to 755 less it does not execute at boot. Also, I'd manually try this first before actually including the above, particularly the -d1 as on some systems, it screws up the hardisk. Also, try a combination of the settings to get the optimum performance from the hardisk (this can be tested using the hdparm -t /dev/hda). Good luck! Patrick Cheong Information Systems Assurance Measat Broadcast Network Systems e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my - -Original Message- From: Jamie Raymond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 10:44 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: hdparm Hi, Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d be appropriate?) Thanks, Jamie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBObvsX2sn1kDB0DUmEQJFAQCcDQpRO6RtQCVT0PSSkL86MceqKPMAmgM7 NNJedFIOPQtyTmVifKsBoQVA =4NjE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 04:01:46PM +0200 or thereabouts, Kai Weber wrote: Hi, has anyone the same experience with (all packages up-to-date) HelixGnome and Sawfish: The middle mouse button, which brings up sawfish's root menu contained under programs the whole Debian menu with apps ... Since some days I miss it! There are only some entries: xterm, Emacs, Netscape and others. Any idea, what went wrong? Or is it the supposed behavior? How can I get the Debian menu structure back at this place? P.S. I tried to remove all my sawfish/sawmill settings in $HOME, because I thought I did something with my config. No effect. i think you'd have to edit sawmill's config files like in blackbox. in blackbox if i want something in the menu or out of the menu i edit blackbox's config files. it's easy coz but in sawmill you'd have to do it using Lisp. my 2cents. -- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
eterm/mutt manual?
I saw this recently on a list, but sure can't find it now.. Anyhow, when I hit F1 in eterm, it brings up a menu block rather than the manual for mutt. Any way around this? thanks --dale The major advances in civilization are processes that all but wreck the societies in which they occur. --Albert North Whitehead
Re: System sees only 65M of memory
Thanks for all of the responses. It turns out that I had forgotten to invoke /sbin/lilo after altering my lilo.conf file. the utility free sees all of my memory now. Sheepishly yours, -- Arthur H. Edwards 712 Valencia Dr. NE Abq. NM 87108 (505) 256-0834
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 05:48:29PM -0500 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: greatest packages if I have to sacrifice stability. Debian is the most stable system I know, so that is what I want to use. My original question, is how do I convince them of what I already know? Wayne i'm cutting in the middle here but if you want to use debian at work then just do it man! where i work we're an m$ shop and my boss is an ex-m$ employee and although there's a company policy of using only bloze i reformatted my hd and installed debian with vmware. end of story. -- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
Re: Debian or Stormix
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 05:01:49PM -0400 or thereabouts, Christopher W. Aiken wrote: I currently use FreeBSD 4.1. I have played with RH, MD, SuSE, and Caldera in the past. I like learning new things and thought that I would like to try Debian. As I understand it, Stormix is based on Debian. Other than different system installers and Stormix has a graphical boot screen, are there any other differences? Stormix Deluxe comes with some users documentation books where as Debian does not. I'd like to learn Debian. I've heard a lot of good things on Debian's stability, dselect, dpkg, and apt-get, etc. If Stormix and Debian are the same I would be willing to pay the extra for Stormix Deluxe just to get the documentation books that come with it. Any comments? Please no flame wars. There is enough flame wars about the stupidest things already. hehe. i've used fbsd 4.0 and 4.1 (release and stable) and what i'll tell you is go for debian. you want documentation? then goto to linux.oreilly.com as there's an online book about debian there (though it's for debian 2.1 but there's not much difference). hth. -- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
Re: laptop
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 07:55:55PM -0700 or thereabouts, Nate Amsden wrote: Michael Soulier wrote: screens listed, but none of them seem to work. I guess I can check the IBM homepage and try to find the specs there... i installed debian on several dell latitude notebooks, seemed the monitor setting didn't do anything, it could of be set to anything and it still worked. the chipset was neomagic. i figured that the driver automatically handled the screen. what kind of chip in the ibm ? debian is the most laptop-friendly distro i've encountered. for your lcd screen just select the resolution that fits your display. in my toshiba lapdog i only select the 1024x768 lcd res. Anything interesting that I could know about PCMCIA devices? I've never dealt with them before. the stock debian install recognizes pcmcia and works with 'em. actually u should never be aware nor make any differentiation between pccard and isa/pci based nics. if you selected or setup your network during install then your all setup. if not goto /etc/network and edit the file interfaces to reflect your network setup. -- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
Re: HELP! with ethernet
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 08:37:12PM +0800, Cam Ellison wrote: How do I force the system to identify the ethernet card? I have put the following line in lilo: ether=0,ox300,eth0 to force probing That should be obsolete because it is a PCI, isn't it? How do I compile the rtl8139.c file (I have tried, but it keeps complaining about a missing linux/mod*.h [sorry, I did not record the name] file, even when I attempt to compile it in the same directory. All the other *.h files are recognized)? Is this the problem? I'm sure I've done something totally inappropriate, but all the consultation with howto files and man pages has left me befogged. Is the file called modversions.h? I had this problem once but only while trying to compile a newer rtl8139 driver - not the one from the kernel. I was able to compile it with (I guess) this additional option: -I /usr/src/linux/linux. You could check if the newer driver works for you. Have a look at http://www.scyld.com . But you can compile the kernel? Did you make linux a symlink to linux-2.2.17? Phil
Re: security of deb pkg's proftp and sftp
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:02:18AM -0400, S.Salman Ahmed wrote: Could you explain the steps necessary to do this ? I am running sshd (v1 I think) on my home system (woody) which is on a cable connection. I if you track woody then your probably using openssh v2. to forbid password authentication set PasswordAuthentication no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. would like to able to connect to this home system from work to periodically check email, etc. I currently use PuTTY at work for ssh connections. How can I setup things so that I don't use password authentication ? putty does not support RSA authentication. it only supports passwords. Also, will PuTTY work with a SSH v2 server ? no, but OpenSSH 2 has ssh v1 support. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp2sWMJwGwS5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gnapster
Another alternative is to grab knapster.rpm, convert it to a deb package via alien. I did this months ago because I never could get gnapster to work. I've never had problems with knapster. John On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 05:53:59PM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote: I've found that gnome-napster works perfectly whereas gnapster stays disconnected. However, gnome-napster has few less features, but at least its a temporary answer. Andrei -- First there was Explorer... Then came Expedition. This summer Coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. -- Andrei Ivanov http://arshes.dyndns.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12402354 -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Using Linux
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 05:48:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not berating people because of the Distro they Choose. Well, I wasn't accusing you. It just seems that every time there is a discussion of distribution, people are forgetting the fact that the distributions aren't that different. Peolpe will choose what they like. What I'm trying to find is a way to convince the place where I work, to let me use Debian. Well, if you want stability and security, having used both, I must say, both are pretty much the same. I still aren't convinced that Debian is somehow more stable than Redhat. Doesn't make sense. Enlightenment 0.16.3 doesn't magically become more stable because you installed it on Debian as opposed to Redhat. Software doesn't work that way, sorry. The main advantage of Debian is the package system. Everything is dots over the i's. And, btw, if you want convince somebody of your position, it helps to have an open mind. Considering them illiterate sheep doesn't help your situation. Iif they don't feel that you respect them, they won't respect you. It's hard to convince someone on your position when they don't respect you. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 # I'm subscribed to this list, no need to cc: ## pgpr1j1yhYjpN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel update?
Dale == Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale Thanks for the reply, I downloaded the 2.2.17 kernel from Dale kernel.org and compiled it, that's actually easier for me than Dale the debian way for now. Incidentally, you can use make-kpkg on kernels downloaded from kernel.org as well (that's what I always do) manoj -- Give me a fish and I will eat today. Teach me to fish and I will eat forever. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C
FW: 2.4.0-test8 and ssh (OpenSSH_2.1.1): error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol
Has anyone had the same problem here? Thank you, Chris ---BeginMessage--- Hello, I have just compiled the last version of the Linux kernel (2.4.0-test8) and somehow I am no longer able to use ssh and get the following message: Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11. In /var/log/auth, I can find the following line: sshd[4460]: error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol Note that until now I have been using a 2.4.0-test7-preX with no problem. I do not know if the error I get is related to the following change mentioned for test8-pre1: - socket() error code fix (EAFNOSUPPORT instead of EINVAL) Thank you for your help and the great work on Linux, Chris -- Man is distinguished from all other creatures by the faculty of laughter. - Joseph Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ssh-add Need passphrase for /home/cbroult/.ssh/identity Enter passphrase for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Identity added: /home/cbroult/.ssh/identity ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ssh -v localhost SSH Version OpenSSH_2.1.1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0. Compiled with SSL (0x0090581f). debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug: Applying options for localhost debug: Seeding random number generator debug: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 1000 anon 1 debug: Connecting to madison [127.0.0.1] port 22. debug: Connection established. debug: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_2.1.1 debug: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH_2.1.1 debug: Waiting for server public key. debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits). debug: Forcing accepting of host key for loopback/localhost. debug: Seeding random number generator debug: Encryption type: 3des debug: Sent encrypted session key. debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector. debug: Received encrypted confirmation. debug: Trying RSA authentication via agent with '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' debug: Server refused our key. debug: RSA authentication using agent refused. debug: Trying RSA authentication with key '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' debug: Server refused our key. debug: Doing password authentication. [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: debug: Requesting pty. debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding. debug: Requesting authentication agent forwarding. debug: Requesting shell. debug: Entering interactive session. Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11. debug: Calling cleanup 0x8051020(0x0) debug: Calling cleanup 0x805cbbc(0x0) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ Here is another connection attempt: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/chris $ date Sun Sep 10 16:31:19 CEST 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/chris $ ssh localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding. Last login: Sun Sep 10 16:30:33 2000 from madison on pts/10 Linux madison 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 12:00:43 CEST 2000 i586 unknown Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/doc/*/copyright Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. No mail. Last login: Sun Sep 10 16:30:33 2000 from madison Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/chris $ date Sun Sep 10 16:31:27 CEST 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/chris $ Upon that connexion attempt the following lines are added to /var/log/auth: Sep 10 16:31:25 madison sshd[4460]: Accepted password for cbroult from 127.0.0.1 port 1199 Sep 10 16:31:25 madison sshd[4460]: error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol Sep 10 16:31:25 madison PAM_unix[4460]: (ssh) session opened for user cbroult by (uid=0) Sep 10 16:31:25 madison sshd[4460]: Disconnecting: Command terminated on signal 11. Sep 10 16:31:25 madison PAM_unix[4460]: (ssh) session closed for user cbroult ---End Message--- -- Man is distinguished from all other creatures by the faculty of laughter. - Joseph Addison
Re: FW: 2.4.0-test8 and ssh (OpenSSH_2.1.1): error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol
Works fine here: chester:/tmp# ssh -l root localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Last login: Mon Sep 11 00:34:40 2000 from localhost on pts/4 Linux chester 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 16:06:26 PDT 2000 i686 unknown Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. chester:~# uname -a Linux chester 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 16:06:26 PDT 2000 i686 unknown chester:~# I suspect you got something wrong in your network options of the config.
RE: ClassyTcl
= Original Message From Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Have not found a deb for ClassyTcl. I'm running 2.2 woody and have problems compiling the source. What error messages do you get? The make failed to find a directory /usr/local/unix... I have since then tried to run it Windows, rejected it and moved on. Cheers Bill Barnes ClassyTcl looks like a robust GUI builder. Installed the Windoze binary to evaluate it, but only interested in Linux version. = Original Message From Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Hello the List: Has anybody installed this package? [03:06:24 /tmp]$ grep-available -i ClassyTCL [03:06:41 /tmp]$ Does it has a deb? What does it do? Thanks, Bill Barnes -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
Re: replace chars in filenames?
Addressed to: Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-user@lists.debian.org ** Reply to note from Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Hi Krzys! Thank you!!! I must find out now if the apple clients will like the files than. CU, Lars.
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, John L . Fjellstad wrote: Well, if you want stability and security, having used both, I must say, both are pretty much the same. I still aren't convinced that Debian is somehow more stable than Redhat. Doesn't make sense. Enlightenment 0.16.3 doesn't magically become more stable because you installed it on Debian as opposed to Redhat. Software doesn't work that way, sorry. Hmmm, well, ya... if all was identical between RedHat and Debian. They may use software with the same name, but not necessarily: the same versions, compilation options, combinations of packages, or tweaks. There are more than enough openings for one distro to be more stable than the other, but it may only show up in specific area(s) depending on the skill (or lack of skill) of the distros maintainers for that area of the software map. I'd take any sweeping generalization as to the stability of a distro with a grain of salt, especially when I don't know if the one doing the reporting has longtime and wide ranging experience with a number of distributions on various hardware combinations. later, Bruce
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
I'd take any sweeping generalization as to the stability of a distro with a grain of salt, especially when I don't know if the one doing the reporting has longtime and wide ranging experience with a number of distributions on various hardware combinations. Having had some experiance with several distros of Linux, *BSD and Solaris ... if I had to maintain a machine 1000 miles away that is in an unattended colocation facility ... I'll take Debian, thank you.
RE: Debian VS. Red Hat
-Original Message- From: John L . Fjellstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:43 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat [...] It just seems that every time there is a discussion of distribution, people are forgetting the fact that the distributions aren't that different. Maybe the software in the distributions is about the same, but the distros themselves sure aren't. A distro as I understand it is the effort to integrate linux software in a way that there seems to be a consistent OS. Some differences are, therefore: * installer * package management * file system policies This won't be an issue as soon as the FHS is widely adhered to. In the meantime, I really love it when my files are where I would expect them. * configuration Most config tools are specific to or at least developed by a distro company. Also: where is the network configured, how is init handled? * incuded software, and version thereof * support Note that this does not make any distro better than any other in an objective way, but definitly discernable. There is merit in searching for the product one's most comfortable with. All, of course, my humblest of opinions. [...] And, btw, if you want convince somebody of your position, it helps to have an open mind. Considering them illiterate sheep doesn't help your situation. If they don't feel that you respect them, they won't respect you. It's hard to convince someone on your position when they don't respect you. While you're certainly right on principle, illiterate sheep just fits a certain kind of (office) computer users perfectly, don't you think? Regards Christian /me casts Protection From Fire
Re: Weird messages after kernel compiling...
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:59:13PM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote: for me i'd rename it to /lib/modules/2.2.17-old in case i need 'em back ;-) Actually, I do the same, until I get the new kernel tested and working. Otherwise, in cases where I go from one version to another, like 2.2.15-2.2.17, I would keep the /lib/modules/2.2.15 directory around. I don't really delete old kernels unless I run out of space. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 # I'm subscribed to this list, no need to cc: ## pgpDooSqSLELm.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: German keys on console
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote: That's got nothing to do with the keymap (which is fine.) Two things are important: 1) in /etc/inputrc set 'convert-meta off' must be uncommented (it maybe by default in 2.2r1, it wasn't in tc3. The metakey still works fine, BTW) 2) The environment variable 'LANG' must be set to, i.e., 'de_DE', which also lets LC_CTYPE(the culprit) LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME LC_COLLATE LC_MONETARY LC_MESSAGES default to 'de_DE'. If you're like me you'll like to override at least LC_MESSAGES back to 'en_US'. Only 2) is important. If you set the locale properly you don't have to change /etc/inputrc at all.
Re: vim + printing = wretched output
William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Vim supports several options to munge tabs in various ways. One is expandtab, which will replace each TAB character with the number of spaces defined by tabstop. But this replaces the TAB, which may not be what some people want. See also softtabstop, which will simulate a tabstop setting without actually changing tabstop itself, using a combination of spaces and tabs to generate the indentation. For instance, if set softtabstop=4 is used (with tabstop=8), the first indent is 4 spaces, the second a tab, the third a tab and 4 spaces, etc. snip Bob, The softtabstop is exactly what I needed. I reset the tabstop to 8, set the softtabstop to 3 and edited a test file. When I less or more it it looks the same as it does when I'm editing the file. Thanks a ton for that hint. Even though it took me another hour or so to re-edit my file and fix those tabs it is well worth it because I just love vim. Again, thanks. Have you tried astyle to do this? shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: changing partiton size
Hello there, On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:08:10AM +0200, QBA wrote: Hi, I have a problem because in a few days will have no free space on one of my partitons. I mounted on it /var directory and gave only 150MB for use. But now (after 3 months) I have only 21MB free. Because I also have one almost unused partition I thought that maybe I could resize these 2 partitions. Is any tool available (like partition magic for winshit) that can do that (without loss of my data)? Thanks for help, Have you been using apt-get? If you haven't done so already, you may be able to reclaim some space with apt-get clean. apt-get keeps all the packages it downloads in /var/cache/apt/archives. They can add up after a while. If that's not what's eating up your space, you may have luck with parted or 'gparted'. I'd back up the whole space (if not your whole disk) first. If you have enough space on another partition, you can use tar or cpio or 'cp -a' to copy all of the contents. Can't give you any help with parted (others have reported success). parted works well, have used it. Only it can't move beginnings of partitions, so if you want to do that you'll have to figure out how to move the contents of the following partition to another one, delete the following one and extend the one you want to resize. I'll leave this as exercise to the reader. If you have problems, you could contact me again. AFAIK, partition magic can also resize linux-partitions, so if you have a bootable disk with it on it, you should be able to use, but I have no experience with it. Regards, Daniel
installing gdm
I have Debian 2.2, and would like to substitute gdm for xdm. I'm a recent convert to Debian, and not entirely at ease with the package management utilities. Using dselect, and selecting gdm, I'm told that it conflicts with xdm which will therefore be removed. But task-x-window-system depends on xdm, so that will be uninstalled too, which is obviously not what's wanted. I tried to force it not to remove task-* by hitting Q instead of return in the dependencies list, but that seemed to have no effect. How can I get gdm properly installed? -- Robin Faichney
Problems Installing Oracle 8i
Hi, I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have followed the directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the ./runInstaller command. This is the error I am recieving: Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait... Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 : Bad address I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like Redhat! So can someone give me some advice. Thanks! James E. Grant
Re: Problem installing Oracle 8i
James, if you are installing 8.1.5 I think that install manual explicity says that you have to install exactly JRE 1.1.7 (or 1.1.6 I couldn't remember) and also a symlink from ORACLE_HOME/bin/jre --- /usr/local/jre/bin/jre then be sure to install patch for 8.1.5 if you are installing 8.1.6, oracle installs JRE 1.1.7 on /home/oracle/jre and isn't necessary to have it installed under /usr/local/ hope it helps !! Hi, I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have followed the directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the ./runInstaller command. This is the error I am recieving: Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait... Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 : Bad address -- Jaume Teixi Administrador de Sistemes 6TEMS - Ducform, SA http://www.6tems.com
Re: no ping
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Andr? Dahlqvist wrote: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies They're there already. However, a ping localhost still works... Notice the 1 in the above statements. That means true. Ah, more coffee required apparently. Cool. I'll do that. Mike
Re: installing gdm
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Robin Faichney wrote: I have Debian 2.2, and would like to substitute gdm for xdm. I'm a recent convert to Debian, and not entirely at ease with the package management utilities. Using dselect, and selecting gdm, I'm told that it conflicts with xdm which will therefore be removed. But task-x-window-system depends on xdm, so that will be uninstalled too, which is obviously not what's wanted. I tried to force it not to remove task-* by hitting Q instead of return in the dependencies list, but that seemed to have no effect. How can I get gdm properly installed? There is no problem removing task-x-window-systems. It is only a so called meta-package, containig only dependencies to other packages, so that they get installed. After removing it installing gdm should be no problem. Martin -- If windows is the answer, it must have been a stupid question. For public PGP-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seminar on Cyber Law for Everyman
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Re: FW: 2.4.0-test8 and ssh (OpenSSH_2.1.1): error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol
George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Works fine here: chester:/tmp# ssh -l root localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Last login: Mon Sep 11 00:34:40 2000 from localhost on pts/4 Linux chester 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 16:06:26 PDT 2000 i686 unknown Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. chester:~# uname -a Linux chester 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 16:06:26 PDT 2000 i686 unknown chester:~# I suspect you got something wrong in your network options of the config. Do you have X11 forwarding enabled? I have tried to compare the network options for 2.4.0-test7 and 2.4.0-test8 and I have made a new build so they were similar but to no avail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding. Last login: Mon Sep 11 13:23:50 2000 from madison on pts/4 Linux madison 2.4.0-test8 #1 Mon Sep 11 10:25:03 CEST 2000 i586 unknown Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/doc/*/copyright Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Mon Sep 11 13:23:50 2000 from madison Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ If you have any suggestion, I am enclosing those configs. Thank you, Chris -- Man is distinguished from all other creatures by the faculty of laughter. - Joseph Addison config-2.4.0-test7 Description: Binary data config-2.4.0-test8 Description: Binary data
Re: installing gdm
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 12:56:54PM +0200, Robin Faichney wrote: I have Debian 2.2, and would like to substitute gdm for xdm. I'm a recent convert to Debian, and not entirely at ease with the package management utilities. Using dselect, and selecting gdm, I'm told that it conflicts with xdm which will therefore be removed. But task-x-window-system depends on xdm, so that will be uninstalled too, which is obviously not what's wanted. I tried to force it not to remove task-* by hitting Q instead of return in the dependencies list, but that seemed to have no effect. How can I get gdm properly installed? Use apt-get to do this kinds of things. So you can do: apt-get install gdm And everything will get ok. Another thing (I'm not completly sure) is that task-x-window-system is only a virtual package which depends on others. This means if you remove it, all the X window system won't be removed. Bye! -- Robin Faichney -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jmmv.cjb.net
Re: Harddrive Weirdness
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:14:09PM -0400, Gregg C wrote: This is somewhat more of a hardware question but it might interest someone here. I was installing (with the pci/ide disks) on a system that has very been running 2.1 for 9 or 10 months (I built it when I loaded 2.1 on it, so its recent hardware western digital ide hd, asus p5a, k6-2 450), went through it, rebooted, and was in dselect picking which packages to install. I was interupted and had to go away for a few hours, when I came back, I didn't quite realize at what step I was at in the install, and so I noticed the 2.2.17pre6 kernel image, and thought, oh I'd like that too, and selected it. So halfway through installing the packages, it replaced the kernel, and still not thinking about what I was doing, moved the modules directory and hit Y to install the new kernel. Then it continues installing the other half of the packages. Almost did that is. It began to get drive write errors, and quite shortly the system locked up. I had to cut the power, and start again. But when I began the install over again, even rewrote the partition table, etc, I kept getting the same write errors from the harddrive. I then formated the disk with and old dos bootdisk, and still got the errors when reinstalling. I then rebooted from the rescue disk, and did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda and wiped the disk totally. made one big partition, fscked it, and did a read check, but stil got the same write errors during an install attempt. Pissed, I went to bed, and got up in the morning and the install everything went fine. I can only assume being powered off for 7 or 8 hours caused whatever was wrong to go away. Is this reasonable? Is there something on the drive, a buffer of somekind, that could have been hosed by the kernel-crash that was able to survive a 30second power off, but went away during the long powerdown? Maybe your hard drive get too hot?? I don't know, but this can be a reason, so in the 7-8 hours, it got cold another time and worked fine. Try to get your system up several hours and look what happens. Bye! The last thing to ask me about is hardware, so I'm rather puzzeled. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jmmv.cjb.net
Re: two apt-get questions
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:32:15PM +0200, Jürgen A. Erhard wrote: Sean == Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. How do I get apt-get to tell me which version of a package it would install, without actually installing it, regardless of the version of the existing package if any? Sean apt-get -s foo bar Sorry, but it doesn't show the *versions*. So, that'd be a resounding No here also. Too bad, I'd like such an option also... currently you can only check apt-cache show foo against dpkg -s foo to see whether there's a newer version. Ugly and complicated... You can install console-apt or aptitude. Both show the installed version and available version of every package, so you will be able to check this. Bye! Bye, J -- Jürgen A. Erhard[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (GERMANY) 0721 27326 MARS: http://members.tripod.com/Juergen_Erhard/mars_index.html Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org) Windows NT is an acronym for Windows? No thanks. -- Russ McManus -- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jmmv.cjb.net
Re: Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 04:01:46PM +0200, Kai Weber wrote: Hi, has anyone the same experience with (all packages up-to-date) HelixGnome and Sawfish: The middle mouse button, which brings up sawfish's root menu contained under programs the whole Debian menu with apps ... Since some days I miss it! There are only some entries: xterm, Emacs, Netscape and others. You maybe removed the menu package from your system. Reinstall or update it. Bye! Any idea, what went wrong? Or is it the supposed behavior? How can I get the Debian menu structure back at this place? P.S. I tried to remove all my sawfish/sawmill settings in $HOME, because I thought I did something with my config. No effect. Kai. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jmmv.cjb.net
MPI and parallel processing
Hi, Has anyone any experiences with parallel programming under Debian? I've been using Message Passing Interface under SGI/Irix; the Intel clone of this library is MPIH. Is there a .deb version of it ? Lukas -- --- Lukasz Walewski Centrum Onkologii Instytut [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP! with ethernet
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:01:33AM +0200, Philipp Schulte wrote: How do I compile the rtl8139.c file (I have tried, but it keeps do you mean the rtl8139.c from the linux source tree? do not compile this file alone. use 'make config/menuconfig/xconfig' to configure linux, there you can choose this driver. then compile the kernel... complaining about a missing linux/mod*.h [sorry, I did not record the name] file, even when I attempt to compile it in the same directory. All the other *.h files are recognized)? Is this the problem? I'm sure I've done something totally inappropriate, but all the consultation with howto files and man pages has left me befogged. Is the file called modversions.h? I had this problem once but only this modversion.h gets generated during the kernel build. so, you can't pick one file (rtl8139.c) and compile it. choose this driver and then compile your kernel. while trying to compile a newer rtl8139 driver - not the one from the kernel. I was able to compile it with (I guess) this additional option: -I /usr/src/linux/linux. this should be: -I/usr/src/linux/include/linux or more generally: -Ipath to your linux source tree/include/linux it was needed, because this modversion.h will be somewhere _in the source tree_, it is not installed somewhere in the system, where the compiler looks for header files. moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: Please help with some harddisk error
Hi all, I have seen such error messages below before too.it was when I decided to enable dma support for the hd via hdparmcheck to see whether that that has been enabled (hdparm /dev/hda). Anyway, after that incident, my hardisk had bad cluster/sectors! dma support is on for the drive, but what are the consequences of turning dma support off? slower performance? can i just turn dma support off without rebooting? Regards, Marc-Adrian Napoli Network Admin Connect Infobahn Australia +61 2 9281 1750
Re: logging interaction between minicom and modem - solved
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:11:13 PST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, that's odd I tried to set up wvdial just now and it's saying that /dev/mouse is linked to ttyS0, and sure enough it does seem to could this be causing some of my problems? Is that something that's safe to manually unlink or is there probably some program that set that that I should have a chat with I know I have gpm running, is that likely to have done it? The odd thing is I don't even use a serial mouse, I use a bus mouse so it doesn't seem to make sense to have /dev/mouse pointing to a serial port does it? anyways, if this sets off any lights or rings any bells for anyone, please share :) -Alice yep, that was it. rm /dev/mouse and now chat's a happy camper (tried to send this email this weekend and got a message about debian- user's mailbox being full so my apologies if this shows up twice) -Alice Alice M. Pinard Casco Indemnity Company [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian or Stormix
If you have been using FreeBSD I would just get Debian and for the same money you would spend on Storm get a good Debian book. Storm hides to much to really learn from IMO. -- Original Message -- From: Christopher W. Aiken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Christopher W. Aiken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:01:49 -0400 I currently use FreeBSD 4.1. I have played with RH, MD, SuSE, and Caldera in the past. I like learning new things and thought that I would like to try Debian. As I understand it, Stormix is based on Debian. Other than different system installers and Stormix has a graphical boot screen, are there any other differences? Stormix Deluxe comes with some users documentation books where as Debian does not. I'd like to learn Debian. I've heard a lot of good things on Debian's stability, dselect, dpkg, and apt-get, etc. If Stormix and Debian are the same I would be willing to pay the extra for Stormix Deluxe just to get the documentation books that come with it. Any comments? Please no flame wars. There is enough flame wars about the stupidest things already. -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.1 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian or Stormix
Well i used Stormix for a few months before i installed Debian potato. I used the free d/l from Stormix so i haven't seen their documentation. Basically i started with Stormix before Debian because i assumed the Stormix install would be easier. When i installed Debian potato from the pseudo-cd image kit i found out it was an easier install than FreeBSD. I' ve kept the boot-screen in LILO from Stormix just because i like the way it looks. And i apt-get the stormpkg from Stormix for the graphical front end to apt and dselect, although i use the cmd line just as much. Essentially the Stormix hail dist. is Debian potato. But there are differences in some configurations, e.g. i never got my mouse scroll wheel to work in Stormix but it works with imwheel pkg in Debian and you wont have to recompile the kernel for APM support in Debian if you want auto power down at shut-off. In Stormix the Helix Gnome is included but you can just apt-get it after the base install of Debian. So i would say if you installed FreeBSD go with the Debian install ; in any case you'll never regret installing Debian. On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:01:49 -0400, Christopher W. Aiken said: I currently use FreeBSD 4.1. I have played with RH, MD, SuSE, and Caldera in the past. I like learning new things and thought that I would like to try Debian. As I understand it, Stormix is based on Debian. Other than different system installers and Stormix has a graphical boot screen, are there any other differences? Stormix Deluxe comes with some users documentation books where as Debian does not. I'd like to learn Debian. I've heard a lot of good things on Debian's stability, dselect, dpkg, and apt-get, etc. If Stormix and Debian are the same I would be willing to pay the extra for Stormix Deluxe just to get the documentation books that come with it. Any comments? Please no flame wars. There is enough flame wars about the stupidest things already. -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.1 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
NSS db module, split from glibc
Just a heads up, the nss_db module is going away from glibc. It was split from glibc upstream, and will be packaged seperately from now on. For a short while after glibc 2.1.93 is uploaded to woody, there will not be an nss_db module, until I get that package done. If you use this module... Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Problems installing Oracle 8i
Hi, I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have followed the directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the ./runInstaller command. This is the error I am recieving: Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait... Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 : Bad address I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like Redhat! So can someone give me some advice. Thanks! James E. Grant
Re: My orphaned packages.
On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've not even looked at it in over a year. If nobody objects I'd like to do this together with Martin Gasbichler who wrote a fair part of scsh 0.6. But me having just applied for Debian maintainership this will take some time... Daniel. -- GNU/Linux Audio Mechanics - http://www.glame.de Cutting Edge Office - http://www.c10a02.de GPG Key ID 89BF7E2B - http://www.keyserver.net
Re: Source directory
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 01:49:02PM +0200, Juli-Manel Merino Vidal wrote: Hi everybody, Which is the proper place to uncompress and compile source code that will be installed on /usr/local without any deb? It's /usr/src or /usr/local/src? For example, any program that I download from internet in .tar.gz file where should be uncompressed to follow debian policy (one of the two directories said above)? I am not sure what the debian policy exactly says about sources. I am using a user build who owns /usr/local/src to configure/compile sources. Just an example, the linux kernel... I have never used the debian packages and I have always used a .tar.gz. But where should I place it? Will it work under /usr/local/src? My kernel sources are in /usr/local/src and I use build for them, too. /usr/src belongs to root except for the modules dir hierarchy which is owned by build. with kernel-package I also make a kernel-headers debian package which installs to /usr/src/kernel-header.. /usr/src/linux points to the headers of the running kernel (in /usr/src/, so I can mess up my kernel-sources while keeping the correct header files) -ff -- Florian Friesdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP key available on public key servers -- Save the future of Open Source -- - Online-Petition against Software Patents - -- http://petition.eurolinux.org --- pgp9QyvPqZKMo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Power management (continuation)
Hi, I've seen that there is a package called acpid and installed it. Now I have to install the 2.4 kernel to be able to try it, but this might be able to put the computer to sleep (no fans, no cpu, no harddisks, etc). I'm sure that my computer can do it, because I've seen it doing this from win... but I'm unable to suspend with linux :-( Bye! -- Do you really think win is easy to use? --- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running Debian GNU/Linux woody ---
Re: what is a Machine Check Exception ?
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, S.Salman Ahmed wrote: CPU 0: Machine Check Exception: 00040Bank 1: f2000115general protection fault: Erk. Read bluesmoke.c in the kernel source. Never seen this before, so I'd be interested in a (technical) explanatation of exactly what netscape (no surprise there) did to cause this. It's telling you your PII/PIII is malfunctioning or something like that (I don't know if it also traps RAM ECC errors or other stuff like that). If you're an overclocker, you know why. If not, you might want to call Intel's customer support... BTW, I know this code had some changes made in 2.2.18pre?, and they might be bugfixes or something like that. So, you might want to run the above through Alan Cox... just send the oops and ask them what it means at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the kernel development list). Do remember to tell them your kernel version, CPU and motherboard, and that you're not subscribed to the list... -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh pgpm7kGlb4VKt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Oracle 8i problems.
Hi, I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have followed the directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the ./runInstaller command. This is the error I am recieving: Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait... Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 : Bad address I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like Redhat! So can someone give me some advice. Thanks! James E. Grant
Deleted /dev/hda (MBR)
UUUps !! I deleted /dev/hda as root and now i cant boot anymore (without disc) !! I tried to mkdir /dev/hda but it doesnt work with lilo !! My NT is still working. What can i do ?? Yeah i know it's stupid but what should i do ?? dominik
Re: Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)
+ Julio Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The middle mouse button, which brings up sawfish's root menu contained under programs the whole Debian menu with apps ... Since some days I miss it! There are only some entries: xterm, Emacs, Netscape and others. You maybe removed the menu package from your system. Reinstall or update it. No. It is still installed in latest version and I tried serveral times to reinstall it. No effect. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/
Prefered Disk set?
Hello All, Is there a prefered disk set vendor for the latest release. I'd like it all... non-us, contrib... TIA -- Greg.
Re: HELP! with ethernet
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:28:12PM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:01:33AM +0200, Philipp Schulte wrote: No I did not write this! Just because we have the same name does not mean you are allowed to fake qoutes ;) How do I compile the rtl8139.c file (I have tried, but it keeps do you mean the rtl8139.c from the linux source tree? do not compile this file alone. use 'make config/menuconfig/xconfig' to configure linux, there you can choose this driver. then compile the kernel... I didn't ask this. complaining about a missing linux/mod*.h [sorry, I did not record the name] file, even when I attempt to compile it in the same directory. All the other *.h files are recognized)? Is this the problem? I'm sure I've done something totally inappropriate, but all the consultation with howto files and man pages has left me befogged. Is the file called modversions.h? I had this problem once but only this modversion.h gets generated during the kernel build. so, you can't pick one file (rtl8139.c) and compile it. choose this driver and then compile your kernel. Thank you but my kernel and RTL8139 works fine. while trying to compile a newer rtl8139 driver - not the one from the kernel. I was able to compile it with (I guess) this additional option: -I /usr/src/linux/linux. this should be: -I/usr/src/linux/include/linux or more generally: -Ipath to your linux source tree/include/linux That's what I meant, sorry. Phil
Re: Prefered Disk set?
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:41:40AM -0400, Greg Vence wrote: -|Hello All, -| -|Is there a prefered disk set vendor for the latest release. I'd like it -|all... non-us, contrib... -| -|TIA -- Greg. I bought my CD's from http://www.linux-cd.com I bought N960-4, the 4 CD set for $40. CD's came in a few days. Very happy with their service. --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.1
mutt can burn in ****!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- My frustration limit with Mutt and it's incredibly stupid GPG detached signature feature has reached it's limit. Sure *mutt* can handle verifying these signed messages, but *nothing* else can! Even in mutt, if I save all the MIME parts of the message to files (i.e. the gpg sig is msg.key and the message body is msg.asc) and run gpg --verify msg.key msg.asc, gpg tells me that the sig is bad! This is a signed email that I sent myself, on the same machine, using the same version of mutt gpg and all that. It was suggested that I use 'set pgp_create_traditional' added in some new version of mutt to generate traditional sigs. So I upgraded mutt and added that line to my .muttrc, and it did *something* but not exactly what I wanted. There is now only a single part of the message. Woohoo, no more detached sigs. However, it is sent as Application/PGP, which no mailer knows how to display natively. Saving this attachment to disk and running gpg will actually correctly verify the key! Yay! Some progress! So, is there any way of telling mutt to attach this signed file as text/plain or something that a non-mutt mailer will understand? And *why* on earth does the mutt documentation indicate that use of the widely supported traditional method of signing messages is (in bold face, even) strongly deprecated??? It works, and most people can deal with it easily and painlessly, where the recommended way of doing things apparently only works if the recipients are using mutt. I don't like that. It sounds too much like a microsoft marketing tactic. oh well. Sorry to vent my frustrations to the list. I'll be eternally grateful and a whole lot more relaxed if somebody can help me out. Thanks. Oh yeah, this message was signed and sent from Pine using the very nice (and compatible) pgp4pine package. noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObzyiYdCcpBjGWoFAQGvhQP/Tn25FqWRYGturmJw6Ug9x8jtDtHd6aPw O5zGsHULWuSzt8N8vBWyTdRg095mmltnZ+ym409yKyqeTBPKfYtfXKQHkXbEI86D VgKKx+Fpk6pOwFwNeeeLBI0nvnUkrN3y62yJXyxj1TKs4TUO5+PxUBeGl3pJbgxz fqA6CJNwYLk= =8ICr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Deleted /dev/hda (MBR)
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 04:39:24PM +0100, Dominik Bittl wrote: I deleted /dev/hda as root and now i cant boot anymore (without disc) !! How could this happen ;) I tried to mkdir /dev/hda but it doesnt work with lilo !! My NT is still working. What can i do ?? Have a look at /usr/src/linux/scripts/MAKEDEV.ide Phil
Sawfish - lisp error?
I've been using sawfish 0.30.3-6 and whenever I open a new window the system beeps and prints this error to the error stream: Lisp backtrace: #subr run-byte-code (áKãKäK+v [0 (backquote-unquote 125.) sp-cost:overlap 0 (backquote-unquote 75.) sp-cost:focus-locality sp-cost:pointer-locality] 4) nil nil nil nil #subr load (smart-placement t) t #closure (#window a0003a) t #closure place-window (#window a0003a) t *** Symbol value is void: (backquote-unquote 125.) *** Invalid autoload definition: (place-window-best-fit), Can only autoload from symbols I've tried purging and re-installing sawfish, removing my .sawfishrc and .sawfish/ directories, as well as different Window Placement settings, but all windows do the same thing. I also searched around for the code listed in /usr/share/sawfish/lisp, but could find it. Anyone know what's happening and how I might fix it? Here's the versions of the lisp stuff that sawfish depends on: ii librep90.12.4-2 an embeddable Emacs-Lisp-like runtime librar ii rep0.12.4-2 lisp command interpreter frontends to librep ii rep-gtk0.13a-3GTK binding for librep ii rep-gtk-gnome 0.13a-3GTK binding for librep with gnome support Thanks! Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley tel: 907-474-2689 cell: 322-1889 Programmer / Analyst email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alaska Fairbankswww.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle Fairbanks, AK 99775 PGP2 key: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle/pgpkey.asc GNUPG key: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle/gnupgkey.asc
Re: Prefered Disk set?
Greg Vence wrote: Hello All, Is there a prefered disk set vendor for the latest release. I'd like it all... non-us, contrib... Note that `contrib' on the official CDs is incomplete. AFAIK, it only contains packages whose dependencies are fulfilled in the CD set (so nothing that depends on non-free, which is probably most of contrib). (I got CDRs from lsl) Peter
Kernel COmpile Problems
Hi... I had a small problem when I was compiling my kernel. when I typed the make bzImage command, at the end I got an error message saying make: as86: Command not found or something like that. Do I have to install any package? I'm using the rain distribution of Storm, based on Slink. Thanks for your help... Ronald
Re: Kernel COmpile Problems
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:31:15AM -, Ronald Castillo wrote: Hi... I had a small problem when I was compiling my kernel. when I typed the make bzImage command, at the end I got an error message saying make: as86: Command not found or something like that. Do I have to install any package? I'm using the rain distribution of Storm, based on Slink. Thanks for your help... $ dpkg -S as86 bin86: /usr/share/doc/bin86/examples/as86_encap bin86: /usr/bin/as86 bin86: /usr/share/man/man1/as86.1.gz :) Install bin86 package. Mirek
RE: Kernel COmpile Problems
I'll do it. Thanks for your help!! -Original Message- From: Mirek Kwasniak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:40 PM To: Ronald Castillo Cc: Debian-User Mailing List Subject: Re: Kernel COmpile Problems On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:31:15AM -, Ronald Castillo wrote: Hi... I had a small problem when I was compiling my kernel. when I typed the make bzImage command, at the end I got an error message saying make: as86: Command not found or something like that. Do I have to install any package? I'm using the rain distribution of Storm, based on Slink. Thanks for your help... $ dpkg -S as86 bin86: /usr/share/doc/bin86/examples/as86_encap bin86: /usr/bin/as86 bin86: /usr/share/man/man1/as86.1.gz :) Install bin86 package. Mirek -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Kernel COmpile Problems
Thanks for your help.. I'll do that. I also think kernel-source should recommend that. Otherwise, how would newbies like me do without help from this mailing list? -Original Message- From: Michal F. Hanula [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:42 PM To: Ronald Castillo Subject: Re: Kernel COmpile Problems On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:31:15AM -, Ronald Castillo wrote: Hi... I had a small problem when I was compiling my kernel. when I typed the make bzImage command, at the end I got an error message saying make: as86: Command not found or something like that. Do I have to install any package? I'm using the rain distribution of Storm, based on Slink. Thanks for your help... Ronald Install ``bin86'' (somwhere in the devel section, I believe.). A question to the maintainer (if he is listening): shouldn't the kernel-source package suggest|recommend bin86? MisoFrankie -- Energy equals milk chocolate square.
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:43:30AM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote: -Original Message- From: John L . Fjellstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:43 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat [...] It just seems that every time there is a discussion of distribution, people are forgetting the fact that the distributions aren't that different. Maybe the software in the distributions is about the same, but the distros themselves sure aren't. A distro as I understand it is the effort to integrate linux software in a way that there seems to be a consistent OS. Some differences are, therefore: * installer * package management * file system policies This won't be an issue as soon as the FHS is widely adhered to. In the meantime, I really love it when my files are where I would expect them. * configuration Most config tools are specific to or at least developed by a distro company. Also: where is the network configured, how is init handled? * incuded software, and version thereof * support Support. OH yes support. The first time I set up RH (first linux ever) I naturally had some problems and questions. I bought the retail version so I had access to tech support from RH. The first mail I sent them was a how do you see colors in the directories when you do a ls type of mail. The reply came 13 days later and said (paraphrase) I am so and so and I will be your grade 3 support technician. What you asked about is already set up and is part of the standard distribution, if it isn't working for you then you changed something in your configuration and we are not responsible for that. And that was it. And there was NO color with ls. I did naturally find out about --color=auto but that was due to my looking not tech support. The second email I sent them was a X related question that said I can cycle thru all the resolutions from 640x480 up to 1600x1200 but X always starts in 640x480. How can I tell X to start at 1600x1200? Their answer was Our technical support only covers configuring X to 640x480. Since you reported that this already works we are not obligated to assist you any further. Yes that was the end of the mail. These examples happened to me the first time I ever installed RH linux (my first linux). I knew I'd have problems so I paid the money for tech support and you can see what I received. After that I've had a different outlook on RH. In my mind RH is the MS of Linux. They do not care about linux, they care about how much money they can bleed out of us before the fad is over. So if your work is going to insall RH because they offer true support think twice. I continued to run RH for a while because I did not know where else to go. I finally found the debian web site, read about the reasons debian exists, it's goals and beliefs and was dumbstruck. This distribution is what I was looking for. There is a widely held belief out there that debian is murder to install and you had best not install it until you know what your doing because it doesn't hand hold you like RH. I found that to be somewhat accurate. Naturally, the more experience you have with a subject the eaiser time you have applying that knowledge to other related areas (other distributions). So I stuck it out with RH until I thought I had a decent foundation of understanding. Then I switched to Debian and I've been vey happy since. One of the things that I appreciate the most is this list. I obviously still don't know everything. It is a huge boost to debian in my eyes that there are people like you guys out there that answer questions real-time. There is nothing worse than being almost there and just need one more tweak to get it right. You can send a note to the list and get a reply sometimes in a matter of 30 seconds. Now lately I've read a couple people saying this is supposed to be a list about straight debian problems. If that truly is the case and general questions belong elsewhere perhaps we could start a debian version of a general questions list. Those of you that aren't intersted in answering how do you get color in ls wouldn't need to sign up for the list, but those people that don't mind helping like that could and debian could have a dedicated newbie list help line? Just a thought. I know I would sign up for it just to be there for the next person that needs to know something that I've already tackled. Thanks for your time. Bill Note that this does not make any distro better than any other in an objective way, but definitly discernable. There is merit in searching for the product one's most comfortable with. All, of course, my humblest of opinions. [...] And, btw, if you want convince somebody of your position, it helps to have an open mind. Considering them illiterate sheep doesn't help your situation. If they don't feel that you respect them,
listres and viewres
Hi listres and viewres fail with Symbol 'XawWidgetArray' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking followed by Segmentation fault There's some discussion about this under bug report #60390. Is there a way to get these programs to run? Thanks. Charles Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel COmpile Problems
%% Ronald Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rc Thanks for your help.. I'll do that. I also think kernel-source rc should recommend that. Otherwise, how would newbies like me do rc without help from this mailing list? Well... I don't mean to be snippy but they _could_ read the docs :) /usr/share/doc/kernel-source-xxx/debian.README.gz -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Management Development Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional. --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
Re: System sees only 65M of memory
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:56:52PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: I just purchased two Athalon-based systems, each with 768M of ram. However, under debian (potato runnin kernel 2.2.17) the OS sees only 65 M of memory. I have tried to use the append command mem=768M but it still sees only 65 M? Does anyone have any ideas? -- Arthur H. Edwards 712 Valencia Dr. NE Abq. NM 87108 (505) 256-0834 I haven't tried on my athlon, but i've heard that grub will autodetect your ram correctly, and pass the info to the kernel. Still doesn't help with the fact that mem= isn't working for you, but its a start :) Erik Bernhardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is better to remain silent and be considered a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Abraham Lincoln pgpbsN2VfYoAG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: German keys on console
Thanks to all who answered my question. The solution was really easy, but i doesn't came into my mind.. thanks -- P.Malewski, Maschplatz 8, 38114 Braunschweig, Tel.: 0531 500965, MH-Hannover: 0511 532 3194 / Fax: 0511 532 3190, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Harddrive Weirdness
From: Julio Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Julio Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gregg C [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Harddrive Weirdness Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:09:17 +0200 On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:14:09PM -0400, Gregg C wrote: This is somewhat more of a hardware question but it might interest someone here. I was installing (with the pci/ide disks) on a system that has very been running 2.1 for 9 or 10 months (I built it when I loaded 2.1 on it, so its recent hardware western digital ide hd, asus p5a, k6-2 450), went through it, rebooted, and was in dselect picking which packages to install. I was interupted and had to go away for a few hours, when I came back, I didn't quite realize at what step I was at in the install, and so I noticed the 2.2.17pre6 kernel image, and thought, oh I'd like that too, and selected it. So halfway through installing the packages, it replaced the kernel, and still not thinking about what I was doing, moved the modules directory and hit Y to install the new kernel. Then it continues installing the other half of the packages. Almost did that is. It began to get drive write errors, and quite shortly the system locked up. I had to cut the power, and start again. But when I began the install over again, even rewrote the partition table, etc, I kept getting the same write errors from the harddrive. I then formated the disk with and old dos bootdisk, and still got the errors when reinstalling. I then rebooted from the rescue disk, and did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda and wiped the disk totally. made one big partition, fscked it, and did a read check, but stil got the same write errors during an install attempt. Pissed, I went to bed, and got up in the morning and the install everything went fine. I can only assume being powered off for 7 or 8 hours caused whatever was wrong to go away. Is this reasonable? Is there something on the drive, a buffer of somekind, that could have been hosed by the kernel-crash that was able to survive a 30second power off, but went away during the long powerdown? Maybe your hard drive get too hot?? I don't know, but this can be a reason, so in the 7-8 hours, it got cold another time and worked fine. Try to get your system up several hours and look what happens. Bye! The last thing to ask me about is hardware, so I'm rather puzzeled. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jmmv.cjb.net I don't think that was the problem, because I continued to toy with it in the same location/conditions, the next day, after the good install, and I did significantly more cpu/drive intensive stuff than just running through an install, and never had any problems. Plus the box normally sits in a location slightly warmer than where I was messing with it, and I've not had any problems. Gregg _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Debian or Stormix
Ray Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have been using FreeBSD I would just get Debian and for the same money you would spend on Storm get a good Debian book. Storm hides to much to really learn from IMO. Maybe you could elucidate and tell us what exactly Storm Linux hides? I have used Debian through several versions and Storm Linux more recently. Storm adds a few features which make Linux easier for the beginner or someone who just prefers a GUI interface. It offers an easier install and adds a bit of gloss to Debian. It removes nothing of a standard Debian install - all the usual command line utilities are available. You could install Storm and pretend it was Debian and you would be none the wiser once you had removed the Storm icons from the stndard KDE or Gnome desktop. I appreciate that some Linux users prefer a more difficult install accompanied by a steep learning curve so if you are one of these you will not like Storm Linux ;-) -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux
Oracle 8i
Hi, I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have followed the directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the ./runInstaller command. This is the error I am recieving: Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait... Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 : Bad address I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like Redhat! So can someone give me some advice. Thanks! James E. Grant
getting exmh to display text as default on rude mime messages
I keep dinking around wiht options, but haven't found a way to work. There seems to be no solution to the rude and clueless who send mime messages with html. Unfortunately, exmh insists on defaulting to the html rather than the plain text. I see different ways to display/not display things, but none to set the default types. I thought there were priority settings somewhere in /etc, but I can't find any (I'd rather solve ithtere, as I get the same problem at the command line. If a mime message has text, it should just plain be displayed, rather than requiring a few keystrokes and popping windows . . .) has anyone solved this? hawk --
Re: System sees only 65M of memory
Does your bios have the setting memory hole at 64M activated? I'm not sure if that's the exact option. I only vaguely remember something like that as I haven't rebooted for such a long time - and sorry - I refuse to for this! ;-) Cheers, Jason. --On Monday, September 11, 2000 9:20 -0700 Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:56:52PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: I just purchased two Athalon-based systems, each with 768M of ram. However, under debian (potato runnin kernel 2.2.17) the OS sees only 65 M of memory. I have tried to use the append command mem=768M but it still sees only 65 M? Does anyone have any ideas? -- Arthur H. Edwards 712 Valencia Dr. NE Abq. NM 87108 (505) 256-0834 I haven't tried on my athlon, but i've heard that grub will autodetect your ram correctly, and pass the info to the kernel. Still doesn't help with the fact that mem= isn't working for you, but its a start :) Erik Bernhardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is better to remain silent and be considered a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Abraham Lincoln
booting with lilo win2k
Yesterday I had to install Win2000; while I suspected that it would overwrite the MBR (where lilo lives), I had a boot floppy ready and restored the MBR w/o problems. However I can't figure out how to multiboot into it using LILO as my main boot manager. Searching the web produced some suggestions on adding linux into the W2K's boot menu, but I would prefer to stick with lilo all the way. Adding the following to lilo.conf: , | other = /dev/hda1 | label = win ` doesn't seem to cut it; I get an error message Cannot find NTBF. or some such, after which the only optoin is C-A-Del. Is there a clean solution to this problem? Will I have to reinstall Win2K since I hosed its MBR? Thanks for any pointers, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Oracle 8i problems.
What is the exact version of Oracle you are trying to install... I spent several days trying to get Oracle 8 version 8.1.5 to work with not success on my Debian box. Finally was able to download 8.1.6 and it installed painlessly. Ken At 10:23 AM 9/11/2000, James Grant wrote: Hi, I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have followed the directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the ./runInstaller command. This is the error I am recieving: Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait... Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 : Bad address I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like Redhat! So can someone give me some advice. Thanks! James E. Grant -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null # [EMAIL PROTECTED] # http://www.cumber.edu/personal/kenpc # office phone: 606/539-4344
Re: booting with lilo win2k
Just as a follow-up to myself, in case it matters, the partition where win2k is installed is in NTFS. -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
It could be that the BIOS reconfigured itself to see the IDE disk. I have an old Micron that has an IDE and SCSI, and at one point I disabled the IDE hard disk in the system BIOS, so it didn't get scanned/seen at boot and the system went to the SCSI device as the primary drive. The disk was seen OK under Linux, because it has drivers that probe the IDE bus (that don't use the BIOS). Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Yes, it is when running LILO that I get the error. It leaves the machine in an unbootable state. Installing LILO onn a floppy or on the IDE drive made things happy, but I don't like it as I had been booting off the same SCSI disk for over a year. It wasn't until I installed the second network card that LILO refused to install properly on the SCSI disk. I suspect that installing the new net card caused the BIOS to completely re-arrange how it assigned IRQ/DMA/IO/whatever values to my hardware and somehow caused the SCSI card to be found after the IDE controllers, when proviously it was found first. Maybe. Something like that, anyway. noah On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, John Gilger wrote: Did you run lilo after you installed the new kernal? John - Original Message - From: Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 7:48 PM Subject: LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Can anybody shed some light on the error message above? I get it whenever I run LILO now, and the system won't boot from the hard drive. The only change to this system was a new network card (there are now 2) and the new kernel. The kernel works fine, as I have installed LILO on a floppy and can boot with no trouble. Here are some details: SCSI controller ID is 7 sda SCSI id 0 all other SCSI disks disabled as part of my debugging hda is an IDE HD, no bootable partitions hdb is an IDE CDROM so...what is the first disk? The system used to boot from /dev/sda just fine, and the problem really seems to have something to do with the second network card I added. TIA for the help. noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObqF8IdCcpBjGWoFAQHmOwQAi5WMC8sRz4FzFCSLlCuDIYsHlpNo+bfE gpRFPMycllWsd4y7dSSTC4Sd8/8/2pJX58FjI/n/zqiBLVLydS0fUGwg0druT+0j 8GNbGoztDrXBxha23nUFOJ8DXfbKDjkcyd7Za1GywqHwAORcS2owfpHO5uQH3Xze EecmtT0vNPU= =UxCh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObrzZodCcpBjGWoFAQGXYQP8DlSlwEhXLirEJCB2rN90CpGTUAXMRY44 y22JKxLEjQm6He8i0uzMsfkSfUmQHh2t8t/yUmBatQ3UsIznQRACTMjwa4ayU7fP hlRxa08XFosGh80z2hxW/xRGsgx+7nEllPupEcwfq5peGjR7vjy8Bot7cAGiHaqh LDPuLOVN58E= =FQfM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Bob McGowan Staff Software Quality Engineer VERITAS Software [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Found a free Excel help resource
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SV: booting with lilo win2k
Yesterday I had to install Win2000; while I suspected that it would overwrite the MBR (where lilo lives), I had a boot floppy ready and restored the MBR w/o problems. However I can't figure out how to multiboot into it using LILO as my main boot manager. Searching the web produced some suggestions on adding linux into the W2K's boot menu, but I would prefer to stick with lilo all the way. Adding the following to lilo.conf: , | other = /dev/hda1 | label = win ` doesn't seem to cut it; I get an error message Cannot find NTBF. or some such, after which the only optoin is C-A-Del. Is there a clean solution to this problem? Will I have to reinstall Win2K since I hosed its MBR? Thanks for any pointers, The Multiboot-with-LILO mini-howto (which is covering Win95 + WinNT + Linux multiboot using LILO, but works for win2000 aswell) is probably what your looking for. it worked for me anyway.. ;)
