Obsolescencia de los paquetes debian
Antes de plantear la siguiente cuestión deseo explicar algo. Trabajo con debian desde hace cuatro años por un lado por simple divertimento, por otro lado por la fortaleza de su sistema de gestión de paquetes y la gran cantidad de programas que tiene. Por curiosidad he instalado otras distribuciones pero siempre vuelvo a debian. Por lo general, después de instalar el sistema base, eligo los paquetes que me interesan y los instalo de un CD con la herramienta dpkg. Suplo las dependencias, recomendaciones y sugerencias también con dpkg, paquete a paquete. Dselect apenas lo uso y apt todavía no se cómo opera. Todo ello me ha permitido comprobar la gran cantidad de paquetes que versión tras versión -desde la 1.3.6 hasta la potato- se mantienen pero que dudo mucho que la mayoría de usuarios operen con ellos alguna vez o quizás siquiera sepan que existen. Por mencionar algunos ejemplos, quizás no muy significativos, están el gestor de ventana 9wm, o los visualizadores xloadimage o xli, pero hay muchos más. Yo sin embargo los prefiero, suelo trabajar mas con los desarrollos antiguos o de baja carga para el sistema que con los nuevos. Mi cuestión es simple y va dirigida a cualquiera persona, desarrollador o no, que desee aclararme la pertinencia y el futuro de dichos paquetes en las distribuciones siguientes. Gracias. Un saludo. José Francisco. Un saludo. José Francisco. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Chatea en eresMas con Juan Badiola, asesor científico del Gobierno en la crisis de las vacas locas. El miércoles 24 a las 21:00
Re: Oracle 8i
On 19 Jan 2001 20:04:25 -0500, c d wrote: He visto que habláis de Oracle 8i y mi pregunta es la siguiente: En la web de Oracle está la versión de Linux para descargar, hay algún problema para usarla en empresas o hay que pagar licencia? Un saludo, Carlos si no lo han cambiado hace poco, la licencia te permite usarlo sin restricciones para desarrollo, pero no para producción, que para ello sí que tienes que pagar la licencia. saludos
Re: Apache y cgi's
Jaime E . Villate wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:57:31PM +0100, Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Efectivamente el problema era del señor SuEXEC. Al parecer este 'elemento' quiere que el directorio donde se encuentra el cgi y el cgi en sí mismo no sea escribible más que por el usuario (ni siquiera el grupo). Desactivando los permisos de escritura para el grupo y otros en el cgi y el directorio el apache lo ejecuta sin problema. Uf, ¿donde descubriste ese secreto? Lo deducí a partir de los manuales y FAQs de apache en la pagina web del mismo. Tu comentario me puso sobre la pista de que el problema podía deberse a que el apache no ejecutaba el script por culpa de algún permiso. Leyendo los FAQ descubrí que el mensaje que me daba el apache podía deberse a un problema en el SuEXEC cuando el fichero no cumple los requisitos de seguridad. En el manual de SuExec fuí comprobando todos los requisitos de seguridad hasta que me tropecé con este. Probé a cambiarlo y la cosa funcionó. O sea, si queremos desactivar el suEXEC hay que borrar el fichero suexec y rearrancar apache (vaya forma más bestia de desactivarlo). Yo ya había leído eso, pero he buscado por todo mi sistema el tal fichero suexec y no lo encuentro por ningún lado; sin embargo el suEXEC está activo. Seguro que has buscado bien? Yo lo tengo en /usr/lib/apache/suexec. No he probado a borrarlo a ver si se desactiva, pero lo que te puedo asegurar es que el fichero está allí. Por cierto, mi apache es el que viene compilado en la Debian potato (no he añadido ni quitado nada). Quizás esto te sirva de pista: según el manual de apache, cuando el apache arranca busca el fichero suexec. Si no lo encuentra muestra un mensaje diciendo que esa característica no está disponible. Tu apache muestra este mensaje? Si no es así quizas tengas el fichero por algún rincon. Hasta más bits, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez Dept. Lenguajes y Ciencias de la Computación http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida
RE: Configurar las X en un portátil
Hola, me he comprado un ordenador portátil HP Xe2 y no consigo que funcionen las X. He probado con un montón de distribuciones y no Lee la página de Linux ON Laptops, tienen ficheros de configuración preparados para muchos portátiles. Tienes un enlace en mi docu: http://www.escomposlinux.org/sromero/linux/ca_4120t.html Macho, has tenido una suerte que no veas...te has comprado el mismo portatil que yo. Yo mire primero las especificaciones y ponia en la pagina de HP que el XE2 tenia una tarjeta SMI que se soportaba en linux... pero cuando me vino el portatil ohhh, una Cyberblade. Alguien se debio de quejar puesto que cambiaron las especificaciones de la pagina web, en el K6 cambia la tarjeta de video y es diferente que la del Celeron, y ademas la MUY jodida te coge la memoria de video de la memoria principal. Mira la pagina que te indican hay arriba, pero lo unico que podras hacer por ahora es poner el framebuffer o utilizar los drivers VESA de las X4.0 que de vez en cuando petan. Has tenido suerte con la tarjeta de sonido me parece que ya es soportada por Alsa, aunque no he probado. Con el modem me parece que na'dena . agur. --- Josu Arenas
Re: Obsolescencia de los paquetes debian
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 06:15:44AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mi cuestión es simple y va dirigida a cualquiera persona, desarrollador o no, que desee aclararme la pertinencia y el futuro de dichos paquetes en las distribuciones siguientes. Mientras haya un desarrollador interesado por el paquete, este es probable que no desaparezca. Y aún si el paquete se quedara sin mantenedor, lo mantendría el equipo de QA, por lo que si no tiene bugs, es probable que el paquete siga mucho tiempo en Debian (aunque ahora hay gente de QA que piensa que los paquetes que llevan mucho tiempo sin mantenedor deberían desaparecer si no los coge alguien). También es importante que el paquete siga pudiendo recompilarse desde las fuentes: con los progresivos cambios en X, kernel, libc, etc, algunos programas que no tienen mantenimiento por parte del autor (ya no se sacan versiones nuevas, etc) es bastante común que los programas dejen de compilar. Entonces es bastante posible que el paquete se caiga. -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, aka Oskuro in|| [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Using Debian GNU/Linux Reinos de Leyenda || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://debian.org http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgp6g4XsDrGt0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Obsolescencia de los paquetes debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antes de plantear la siguiente cuestión deseo explicar algo. Trabajo con debian desde hace cuatro años por un lado por simple divertimento, por otro lado por la fortaleza de su sistema de gestión de paquetes y la gran cantidad de programas que tiene. Por curiosidad he instalado otras distribuciones pero siempre vuelvo a debian. Por lo general, después de instalar el sistema base, eligo los paquetes que me interesan y los instalo de un CD con la herramienta dpkg. Suplo las dependencias, recomendaciones y sugerencias también con dpkg, paquete a paquete. Dselect apenas lo uso y apt todavía no se cómo opera. ... Yo vengo de slackware (hace ya tiempo) y también me gusta el control que significa instalar los paquetes a mano. Sin embargo uso bastante el dselect, una vez que te haz acostumbrado con la interfaz es muy cómodo, aunque más no sea para ver los conflictos que pueden surgir al intentar instalar un paquete. Siempre tienes la opción de salir sin hacer nada y luego instalar el paquete con dpkg. El apt-get lo he comenzado a usar, con bastante cuidado. No me simpatizan mucho las herramientas inteligentes. Hay que reconocer que cuando tiene que hacer algo más allá de lo trivial te avisa y pide confirmación, pero tiene sus detalles. Por ejemplo: no te instala automáticamente los paquetes que son recommended por el que quieres instalar. Además si tienes alguna dependencia insatisfecha (por haber usado dpkg --force-...) directamente se niega a actuar. ... Todo ello me ha permitido comprobar la gran cantidad de paquetes que versión tras versión -desde la 1.3.6 hasta la potato- se mantienen pero que dudo mucho que la mayoría de usuarios operen con ellos alguna vez o quizás siquiera sepan que existen. Por mencionar algunos ejemplos, quizás no muy significativos, están el gestor de ventana 9wm, o los visualizadores xloadimage o xli, pero hay muchos más. Yo sin embargo los prefiero, suelo trabajar mas con los desarrollos antiguos o de baja carga para el sistema que con los nuevos. Mi cuestión es simple y va dirigida a cualquiera persona, desarrollador o no, que desee aclararme la pertinencia y el futuro de dichos paquetes en las distribuciones siguientes. ... Justamente en el número de esta semana de las Debian weekly news http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2001/3/ se anuncia que hay 61 paquetes que serán dados de baja de Debian en tres semanas, si no aparece nadie que se haga cargo de ellos. La idea es que si no hay nadie interesado en mantenerlos y no hay ningún otro paquete en la distribución que dependa de ellos, no vale la pena tenerlos. Según se aclara en: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0101/msg8.html se quitarán de la distribución: -los paquetes que estén huérfanos por más de 180 días. -los paquetes que, estando huérfanos por más de 90 días, tengan bugs de severidad mayor que minor. -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()_\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-S. C. de Bariloche, Argentina | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm
X4 para Potato
Creo que hay gente en esta lista a la que le interesa esto también: Paquetes NO-OFICIALES de XFree86 4.0.2 para Potato: deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf402_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf402_potato/all/ No mandeis bugs a la BTS sobre estos paquetes, no están soportados por Debian. Jordi -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, aka Oskuro in|| [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Using Debian GNU/Linux Reinos de Leyenda || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://debian.org http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpbMRsYZQFeV.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Acentos, KWord y la Bruja Avería.
-Mensaje original- De: Zephryn Xirdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: miércoles 17 de enero de 2001 1:13 Asunto: Re: Acentos, KWord y la Bruja Avería. Por lo menos en la 2.2.3 que yo tengo, falla. He mirado en la lista de bugs de kde y no aparece nada (el único es algo parecido en el paquete kxkb (lo que quiera que sea ese paquete), así que lo he enviado como fallo de KWord, aunque luego en el texto pongo que es todo el KOffice. A mi al menos no me pasa con otras aplicaciones, p. ej. KMail ni Knode. Es que es posible que tanto en el kmail como en el knode ese bug pueda pasar más desapercibido. En la ventana principal no hay ningún widget editable, y seguramente la ventana para escribir correo sea creada cada vez que se la abre, y como comentaba en mi anterior mensaje, los widgets recién creados funcionan perfectamente. Pero estoy casi seguro que, con esta ventana abierta, si abres otro diálogo (como el de preferencias) donde haya alguna caja de texto dejarán de funcionar los acentos en la otra ventana. Por cierto, voy a informar a Troll Tech también del bug. -- Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
Arranque de Potato
Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hace poco instalé Potato con más pena que gloria lo conseguí... pero me encontré con varios problemas debido a q aún ando novatillo Pero la que más me preocupa es la del arranque NO consigo que ararque desde el disco duro y tenfgo que hacerlo desde disquete Así que me eternizo He instatentado configurar el LILO pero cuando se supone que ejecuto la tecla shift y sale el prefijo para definir que partición arrancar, da igual que tecclee 1 que 7 que 20 hace casoomiso (no teclea nada) y al darle al enter, arranca el windoce ¿Alguna solución? Saluditos
Sobre citius
Tengo la distribución de Debian que dieron en Hispalinux... Supongo que es la oficial ya que sólo tiene los 3 binarios Además conseguí el CD de La Espiral No tengo ningun NON-US o NON-Free ¿Me recomendáis que consiga la Citius?... ¿Me espero a la Woody y sigo aguantando con mi RPM? Tened en cuenta que soy muy novato y aunque leo que leo y que releo, todavía me queda algo de tiempo
Re: Arranque de Potato
Hola instatentado configurar el LILO pero cuando se supone que ejecuto la tecla shift y sale el prefijo para definir que partición arrancar, da igual que creo que es tab lo que deberías presionar (o depende de lilo...) si con tab no te sale nada, quizás te falta la opción prompt Suerte! tecclee 1 que 7 que 20 hace casoomiso (no teclea nada) y al darle al enter, arranca el windoce ¿Alguna solución? Saluditos -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Carles Pina i Estany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || #ICQ: 14446118 || Nick: Pinux URL: http://www.salleurl.edu/~is08139 Hombre invisible busca mujer transparente para hacer lo nunca visto.
Re: Sobre citius
El 20 de ene de 2001, a las 07:08 +0100, Aurelio Díaz-Ufano escribio: Tengo la distribución de Debian que dieron en Hispalinux... Supongo que es la oficial ya que sólo tiene los 3 binarios Además conseguí el CD de La Espiral No tengo ningun NON-US o NON-Free ¿Me recomendáis que consiga la Citius?... ¿Me espero a la Woody y sigo aguantando con mi RPM? Tened en cuenta que soy muy novato y aunque leo que leo y que releo, todavía me queda algo de tiempo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Fin de mensaje original -- Hola! De que Hispalinux hablas?? Porque si es el de este año se dio la Potato. Respecto a tu segunda pregunta que quieres que te diga... Potato tardo en salir Y no se sabe lo que tardara woody. Bye -- --- Javier Coso Gutierrez Correo Electronico Para Alumnos E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Servicio de Informatica Tlf: 916.249.986 Universidad Carlos III de Madrid --- Hay dos cosas que han salido de Berkeley: el LSD y UNIX. No creemos que sea una coincidencia. (Jeremy S. Anderson)
Re: Arranque de Potato
El 20 de ene de 2001, a las 07:05 +0100, Aurelio Díaz-Ufano escribio: Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hace poco instalé Potato con más pena que gloria lo conseguí... pero me encontré con varios problemas debido a q aún ando novatillo Pero la que más me preocupa es la del arranque NO consigo que ararque desde el disco duro y tenfgo que hacerlo desde disquete Así que me eternizo He instatentado configurar el LILO pero cuando se supone que ejecuto la tecla shift y sale el prefijo para definir que partición arrancar, da igual que tecclee 1 que 7 que 20 hace casoomiso (no teclea nada) y al darle al enter, arranca el windoce ¿Alguna solución? Saluditos -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Fin de mensaje original -- Hola! COmo te comentan por ahi... No es el tab el que te da las opciones. De todas formas... despues de configurar lilo, ejecutas lilo??? Te aparecen todas las opciones??? Y la de por defecto te aparece con un *??? Otra cosa echale una ojeada a la pagina de manual es muy completilla (man lilo.conf) SAlu2 -- --- Javier Coso Gutierrez Correo Electronico Para Alumnos E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Servicio de Informatica Tlf: 916.249.986 Universidad Carlos III de Madrid --- We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. (Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amterdam Linux Symposium)
ERROR sound-slot-1 sin ALSA
¡Buenas! Me pasa una cosa que me mosquea cantidad. Tengo una Sound Blaster 64 PCI, es decir, la que tiene el chip Ensoniq ES1371. Esta tarjeta está soportada directamente por el kernel con el módulo es1371.o. De hecho, siempre lo ha estado desde que tengo mi máquina (casi 2 años). Pues bien, ahora resulta que cuando entro en kde, o arranco algún programa de sonido (no todos), miro en la salida del syslog y me dice esto: Jan 20 20:27:25 Yuggoth modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 Jan 20 20:27:25 Yuggoth modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-0 Jan 20 20:27:25 Yuggoth modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jan 20 20:27:25 Yuggoth modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Sin embargo, el sonido funciona perfectamente. Con eso no hay ningún problema. No lo entiendo. Me pide un módulo que no tengo. Y que yo sepa eso del sound-slot y el sound-service son módulos del ALSA, ¿no? Pero si yo no tengo el ALSA... ¿por qué me lo pide? Además, me mosquea el hecho de que también me pida el sound-slot-1, además del sound-slot-0... Por cierto, uso el kernel 2.4.0, pero tb me ha pasado con el 2.4.1-pre8. ¿Qué está pasando? ¡Gracias! Ricardo.
Re: Configuración de Tarjeta de Video
El vie, 19 de ene de 2001, a las 05:10:47 +, Sergio Valdivielso Gomez se expresó así: Luego, ejecuto el programa XF86Setup para configurar la tarjeta (menú Card), la elijo de la lista, pero me da el siguiente mensaje de error: The selected server by your card is not installed! Please abort, install de SVGA Server as /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA and run this program again. ¿Qué hago mal?¿Qué me aconsejan hacer? Saludos Diego -- * Diego Bote BarcoEscuela de Ingenierías Industriales Área de Matemática Aplicada Avda. de Elvas s/nº Departamento de Matemáticas C.P.: 06071 BADAJOZ Universidad de Extremadura Tlf.: 924 289600 ext 9754 Fax: 924 289601 correo-e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ¿tienes instalado el paquete xserver-svga? si no lo tienes instalalo. y si tienes instalado el xserver-vga, pues quitalo. Esto, podrías hacer (para ver qué sucederá): apt-get install xserver-vga -s Y para que suceda (si estás de acuerdo con lo que va a hacer, claro, lo mismo pero sin el parámetro -s): apt-get install xserver-vga Saludos Pepe A ver si llega... -- === Sergio Valdivielso Gomez Usuario Linux Registrado : 150750 Debian GNU/LINUX 2.2 Potato Kernel 2.2.18 Desde que no uso Micro$oft., no me duele la cabeza. === -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Sobre citius
Obviamente que es la Potato... Me refiero a la distribución comercial Citius Si merece la pena con sus 10 CDs o si aorta algo nuevo a la oficial El Sábado 20 Enero 2001 20:15, Javier Coso Gutierrez escribió: El 20 de ene de 2001, a las 07:08 +0100, Aurelio Díaz-Ufano escribio: Tengo la distribución de Debian que dieron en Hispalinux... Supongo que es la oficial ya que sólo tiene los 3 binarios Además conseguí el CD de La Espiral No tengo ningun NON-US o NON-Free ¿Me recomendáis que consiga la Citius?... ¿Me espero a la Woody y sigo aguantando con mi RPM? Tened en cuenta que soy muy novato y aunque leo que leo y que releo, todavía me queda algo de tiempo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Fin de mensaje original -- Hola! De que Hispalinux hablas?? Porque si es el de este año se dio la Potato. Respecto a tu segunda pregunta que quieres que te diga... Potato tardo en salir Y no se sabe lo que tardara woody. Bye
pine y slink
Estoy tratando de compilar las fuentes de pine4.31 en una slink. Según la información para la instalación de dicho paquete se debe poner: ./build argumento, donde argumento es una opción que hace referencia al sistema operativo. Para linux existen varias opciones: lnx Linux using crypt from the C library lnp Linux using Pluggable Authentication Modules (PAM) slx Linux using -lcrypt to get the crypt function sl4 Linux using -lshadow to get the crypt() function sl5 Linux using shadow passwords, no extra libraries Yo elegí la opción sl5 por tener las shadow passwords activadas. El error que obtengo es el siguiente:../c-client/c-client.a(osdep.o): In function `checkpw': /tmp/pine/pine4.31/imap/c-client/osdep.c:99: undefined reference to `crypt' /tmp/pine/pine4.31/imap/c-client/osdep.c:112: undefined reference to `crypt' make: *** [pine] Error 1 creándome sólo los directorios ./bin/pico y ./bin/pilot, pero del cliente de correo, nada de nada. Podría alguien darme información para conseguir instalarlo? Gracias por adelantado.
Re: Inicio de sesión remoto en X-Window
Hola, On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:49:39AM -0600, Carlos López wrote: A las buenas compañeros. Tengo una duda respecto a X-Window. Me acaba de llegar una máquina con Tru64 Unix instalado que por defecto siempre arranca en consola (no hay opción para entrar en entorno gráfico ya que la tarjeta de video no lo permite). Los servicos de X-Window los levanta, en especial el puerto tcp de xdmcp. Mi pregunta es: ¿puedo hacer un login gráfico desde una estación con Debian ?. En windows los programas para ejecutar las aplicaciones X-window de unix lo permiten. ¿Es posible hacer eso mismo con Debian y cualquier unix??. La documentación que leo me dice que sí, pero no como ... ssh: - sshd en el servidor - ssh en el cliente + forward X + agente de autenticación = una pasada Es facil y además el canal es cifrado ;-) Leete mis chuletas I-ssh e I-ssh2 URL abajo... Saludos, -- - Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.2 potato) kernel 2.2.17 GnuPG keyID: F9BC34B5 en certserver.pgp.com fingerprint: 2F60 43D5 A297 5458 9067 5A50 0029 9C8D F9BC 34B5 Mira mis chuletas de Linux en http://perso.wanadoo.es/manel3 - Mi petición de drivers para Linux es la nº 33126 (Pasate por http://www.libranet.com/petition.html ;-)
sid?
Mina mystiska tangentbordsproblem löste sig mycket riktigt när jag bytte till finskt tangentbord. Nu till nästa problem: För att installera vissa paket krävs bl.a. libgtk1.2 version 1.2.8-1 eller bättre. Denna version finns varken i potato eller woody, men ska dock finnas i sid enligt filen Packages. I sid-katalogen på ftp-servrarna finns det dock inga paket över huvud taget! När kommer libgtk1.2_1.2.8-1 att bli tillgängligt? Det finns vissa program (t.ex. galeon) som inte går att installera utan detta paket. /Pelle
Re: sid?
Pelle: För att installera vissa paket krävs bl.a. libgtk1.2 version 1.2.8-1 eller bättre. Denna version finns varken i potato eller woody, men ska dock finnas i sid enligt filen Packages. I sid-katalogen på ftp-servrarna finns det dock inga paket över huvud taget! När kommer libgtk1.2_1.2.8-1 att bli tillgängligt? Det finns vissa program (t.ex. galeon) som inte går att installera utan detta paket. De har gått över till package pools. Kolla i t.ex. ftp://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gtk+1.2 apt brukar klara ut sådana här saker, någon särskild anledning att du inte använder det? Peace, Kalle -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | You can tune a filesystem, but you Web: http://www.gnupung.net/ | can't tune a fish. -- man tunefs(8) PGP fingerprint: 0C56 B171 8159 327F 1824 F5DE 74D7 80D7 BF3B B1DD pgpt6rIbIp9i0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ferramenta cad
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:54:14 -0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oi, Gostaria de saber se alguem conhece algum programa (Open) que seja similar ao AutoCad. Valeu qcad, sim tem um pacote, mas não sou usuário dele. -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
Re: Ferramenta cad
Existe um artigo no OLinux sobre ferramentas CAD para Linux na area de programas. Procure em: www.olinux.com.br/programas Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Oi, Gostaria de saber se alguem conhece algum programa (Open) que seja similar ao AutoCad. Valeu ___ http://www.zipmail.com.br O e-mail que vai aonde você está. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Paulo Henrique B de Oliveira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerente de Operaçoes Linux Solutions - http://www.linuxsolutions.com.br O Linux - O maior e melhor site de Linux do Brasil - http://www.olinux.com.br Brazil
Re: MODEM USR PCI
Você primeiro deve fazer a configuração plug-and-play dele usando o isapnp e pnpdump e então seguir a configuração de um modem padrão. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OLÁ PESSOAL !!! GOSTARIA DE SABER SE ALGUÉM USA O MODEM DA USROBOTICS PCI (NÃO WINMODEM) ACHO QUE É MODELO 2972 , VÍ UNS HOWTOS POR AÍ E MENHUM FUNCIONOU ... NO WINDOWS ELE ESTÁ NA COM5 E IRQ 10 ... SE ALGUÉM USA ESSE CARA AÍ ME DIZ ONDE ARRUMO UM HOWTO QUE FUNCIONE VALEWS!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] O primeiro sentimento de quem está de dieta é o de revolta. Dá vontade de acabar com tudo, a começar pelo que tem na geladeira
Re: MODEM USR PCI
Mas mesmo sendo PCI o isapnp e o pnpdump funcionam Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Você primeiro deve fazer a configuração plug-and-play dele usando o isapnp e pnpdump e então seguir a configuração de um modem padrão. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OLÁ PESSOAL !!! GOSTARIA DE SABER SE ALGUÉM USA O MODEM DA USROBOTICS PCI (NÃO WINMODEM) ACHO QUE É MODELO 2972 , VÍ UNS HOWTOS POR AÍ E MENHUM FUNCIONOU ... NO WINDOWS ELE ESTÁ NA COM5 E IRQ 10 ... SE ALGUÉM USA ESSE CARA AÍ ME DIZ ONDE ARRUMO UM HOWTO QUE FUNCIONE VALEWS!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] O primeiro sentimento de quem está de dieta é o de revolta. Dá vontade de acabar com tudo, a começar pelo que tem na geladeira -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: MODEM USR PCI
Acho que eu tenho esse mesmo modem. O meu é 2976, mas acho que a mesma coisa. Eu tenho ele configurado num conectiva, mas basta configurar ele com setserial, e fazer com esse comando seja rodado após o boot (além de linkar o /dev/modem com a tty). Dá uma olhada nesse mini-howto em: http://www.pla.net.py/home/oliver/3com.html Para não assaltar uma das minhas COMs reais, eu também criei um device ttyS4. Se não der certo, sugiro fazer o caminho que eu fiz quando configurei ele. Procurei dentro do arquivo .inf no disquete de drivers para windows por algo parecido com PCI\VEN_12B9DEV_1008SUBSYS_00AA12B9REV_01 Depois procurei essa string na página Winmodems are not modems (http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html). Lá eu achei o que precisava. qq coisa, estamos aí. Diego. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mas mesmo sendo PCI o isapnp e o pnpdump funcionam Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Você primeiro deve fazer a configuração plug-and-play dele usando o isapnp e pnpdump e então seguir a configuração de um modem padrão. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OLÁ PESSOAL !!! GOSTARIA DE SABER SE ALGUÉM USA O MODEM DA USROBOTICS PCI (NÃO WINMODEM) ACHO QUE É MODELO 2972 , VÍ UNS HOWTOS POR AÍ E MENHUM FUNCIONOU ... NO WINDOWS ELE ESTÁ NA COM5 E IRQ 10 ... SE ALGUÉM USA ESSE CARA AÍ ME DIZ ONDE ARRUMO UM HOWTO QUE FUNCIONE VALEWS!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] O primeiro sentimento de quem está de dieta é o de revolta. Dá vontade de acabar com tudo, a começar pelo que tem na geladeira -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Diego Francisco de Gastal Morales Técnico em Processamento de Dados e Redes de Computadores [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ferramenta cad
Existe um artigo no OLinux sobre ferramentas CAD para Linux na area de programas. Procure em: www.olinux.com.br/programas http://sal.engnux.ufsc.br/E/2/index.shtml Não é artigo, mas apresentas vários CADs par Linux. []'s Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Floripa - SC - Brazil
Fwd: Fw: (linux-br) Abaixo assinado para o deputado Walter Pinheiro (PT)
-- Msg de KrIsSkRoSs postada em Sexta 19 Janeiro 2001 11:16 sobre Fw: (linux-br) Abaixo assinado para o deputado Walter Pinheiro (PT) encaminhada para VOCÊ! -- Subject: Fw: (linux-br) Abaixo assinado para o deputado Walter Pinheiro (PT) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:16:14 -0200 From: KrIsSkRoSs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux debate [EMAIL PROTECTED], linuxall [EMAIL PROTECTED], hack [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org, comp [EMAIL PROTECTED], bos-br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caros, Vamos colaborar com esta iniciativa. Att, -- KrIsSkRoSs kkross at krosszone.org - Original Message - From: Ricardo Rabelo Mota [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-br@bazar.conectiva.com.br Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: (linux-br) Abaixo assinado para o deputado Walter Pinheiro (PT) Caros amigos, Foi cadastrado hoje, dia 19/01/2.001, um abaixo assinado apoiando o projeto de lei 2269/99. Para quem não sabe, o deputado Walter Pinheiro está com um projeto em tramitação na câmara dos deputados onde, dentre outras coisas, obrigará o governo federal a utilizar, preferencialmente, softwares de código aberto na esfera do governo federal. Tal medida poderá economizar, à médio prazo, quantias em torno de R$ 100.000.000 (cem milhões de reais) por ano, quantia esta que poderá ser aplicada em setores mais carentes da nossa sociedade, como educação e saúde, por exemplo. Peço a todos que acessem o endereço à partir de amanhã, sábado, à partir de 11 horas e contribuam com o abaixo assinado que, a cada 50 assinaturas, será enviado um email para o deputado. O endereço é: http://www.abaixoassinado.com/cgi-bin/display_ab.pl?ab=3410. Obrigado pela atenção. Ricardo Rabelo Mota [CUT] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Problems with IPmasq'ing server
:SSH'd to linux box, ran ping flood test.. 6% loss on 100 meg full duplex :ethernet - is this right? NO! ... 13053 packets transmitted, 12939 packets received, 0% packet loss ... round-trip min/avg/max = 0.2/0.2/8.7 ms I have removed ipmasq module, disabled syncookies and ipforwarding for time being, put modem back on windows machine 6% failure now not happening on rapid pings between linux and wintel box... go figure :) init-+-atd |-cron |-dhcpd-2.2.x |-exim |-7*[getty] |-inetd |-kflushd |-klogd |-kpiod |-kswapd |-kupdate |-named |-sshd---sshd---bash---bash---pstree `-syslogd Uptime: 4:41pm up 23:06, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.11, 0.04 I had similar issues probably due to MTU misconfig. Try lowering the MTU on the eth0 to match the ppp0 (1464?), that's kind of a shot in Hrrm.. will try.
Re: PPPD persist
It's fixed. For some reason the supplied redialer script didn't work, but I was finally able to write a simple redial script that even I could understand. Larry On Jan 19, 2001, Larry Fletcher wrote: After upgrading from slink to potato the pppd persist option no longer reruns the scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d after a connection has been broken and then reestablished. Is there some way to configure pppd so the scripts are rerun after persist reconnects? If not, is it possible to change from persist to nopersist in a /etc/ppp/ip-up.d script? I know this sounds counterintuitive, but if I could do this I can rerun pppd by checking for a leftover fetch*.pid after a connection is broken. If none of the above, maybe I can figure out how to make use of the redialer script in /doc/ppp/examples.
pump: no extra parameters are expected
I've got potato 2.2r2 running on a Quantex laptop. Whenever I insert my ethernet card (Linksys PCMPC100), the drivers for it load successfully but pump fails to configure it. In /var/log/daemon.log I see the following: cardmgr[163]: + /sbin/pump -i eth0 /dev/null cardmgr[163]: + pump: no extra parameters are expected cardmgr[163]: start cmd exited with status 1 Any idea how to fix this? I can configure the card manually, or by running pump by hand, but I would like it to work correctly upon card insertion. (Fwiw this also happens if the card is already in the laptop when I turn it on... not that it makes any difference though.)
Re: pump: no extra parameters are expected
Please ignore, I was unaware of the debian-laptop list until just now; will re-post there. Thanks.
Re: Requirements to Build Gimp 1.2 Help
csj wrote: A rather belated reply. But in case somebody's still trying to wrestle with Gimp1.2: I managed to install Ximian Gimp using just the packages for gimp1.2 and libgimp1.2 plus the version of libgtkxmhtml1 generated from building the sid source for gnome-libs1.2.8. I have some doubts however over my installation, as the output below shows. Why is gimp1.2 still described as Developers' release? Did Ximian really use the final 1.2 sources? Yes. I got them on the line. They compiled the final Gimp1.2 against potato/woody/sid. it will work on all three. Don't forget to get the gimp1.2-nonfree and gimp-data-extras in the same directory... Jonathan
Buffer cache
I have question about Buffer cache and command `free'. On my debian 2.2 with linux kernel 2.2.17, i get the memory information using command `free'. $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 46076 45024 1052 6836 4944 18740 -/+ buffers/cache: 21340 24736 Swap:98748 3952 94796 Well, i understand Buffer cache existing between Block device and Filesystem(ex:ext2 filesystem). - | Filesystem | - | Buffer cache | - | Block device | - And, i understand following: [1]The sum of `buffers' and `cache' under command `free' is the amount of Buffer cache area. [2]In Buffer cache area, `buffers' is no data cached space and `cache' is the data cached space. My understanding is correct? regards, Susumu Takuwa
Re: Why choose Debian?
on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 07:11:04PM -0800, Bill Wohler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [Karsten, if you get fresh reasons, be sure to add them to your lists. These lists, by the way, should also be on the Debian Web site. Perhaps you can make this happen. PR is a good thing. See also the recent thread: Why use Debian?] Um. Like? What I tell folks: 1) The package manager. You can tell it to look in several places at once for a package and if you ask for a package that depends on others it automatically selects those packages. It then downloads the .debs and installs them for you. (I don't think Red Hat has this auto-download capability--you have to hunt for the .rpms yourself as far as I know). One of the best demos you can do to convince someone is this: $ foo foo: command not found $ dselect # select and install foo Better: $ apt-get install foo ...which gets foo (and dependencies) in one swell foop (a *very* swell foop, IMO). ...and if you do like dselect (I don't *dislike* it, but it's a sort of grudging admiration), scope out aptitude. 2) The elegant disk layout. For example, everything about mail is in /etc/mail. In Red Hat some stuff is in /etc/mail, some stuff is in /etc. It's all over the place. Ditto for bind stuff. Your and Ethan's comments on RH scavenging to try to piece together WTF is happening are very well taken. My two horror stories are: - RH's lilo docs. What the fuck am I supposed to do with a postscript file on a system that doesn't *boot*, let alone print or display X? Debian's text docs are fscking marvelous. - mysqld init.d script. Just tell me where RH stuffs its mysql server log. In 30 seconds. 3) The elegant boot scripts. Red Hat hides init.d in /etc/rc.d. It also doesn't seem to provide a full set of scripts in init.d either. There are a few other details in this realm, but I'm forgetting them now. I've heard that extreme trauma can induce amnesia RH is moving to the FHS/Debian /etc/init.d / /etc/rc[0-9].d standard. 5) A mission to get all configuration out of programs/scripts and into config files in /etc. ...and more-or-less *flat* in /etc. Lots of subdirs are wonderfully organized and tidy, but it makes referencing scripts a fscking pain in the ass. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpNfhcWqPkK0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why choose Debian?
on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:43:24PM -0500, David B . Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: To quote Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED], # 1) The package manager. Speaking of packages, I think this should be raised. In general, I find that the quality of Debian packages is better than most others. Why? With most distributions, managers are forced to make a compromise - spend more time packaging very popular software, and less time packaging less popular software, or spread out the available resources for all packages. For the former, you'll end up with some very good packages, but you'll also end up with lots more that are mediocre, at best. In the latter case, you'll end up with a bunch of mediocre packages. When you pay your packagers and rely on those packagers for your distribution, you have finite resources to work with. Debian is really a community - in essence, a community of packagers. While there are only a few dozen dedicated packagers(who will package anything and everything, and things that everyone uses, like libc and such), there are hundreds of packagers who only package the program(s) they want to. The ones they use, day to day. What you end up with is a nice, even quality to the packages. The less-popular packages are still packaged by someone who uses it - they'll give just as much attention to detail with their pet package as someone who's packaging 'util-linux' or 'file-utils' would. The best of both worlds - you have a good, solid, base system of well-packaged popular software, and you have hundreds(thousands!) of other less-popular software packaged to the same standards and quality. Mostly. Though Debian's got its warts. Look at the open bugs lists some time -- there's an unhealthy number of them. Largely noncritical, and largely associated with lesser-used packages, but still. What this analysis fails to address, however, is that Debian approches packaging from a _distribution_ standpoint. While RPM is really just a package manager, the Debian tools: dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, are _distribution_ management systems concerned with _policy management_. Well-formed packages understand how they fit *with the system*, not merely within their own dependency scope. With a hierarchy of packages, core, extra, etc., failures to fit within the system are correctly identified as bugs _of the noncompliant package_. I do feel that the points you raise regarding the decentralized (distributed) maintenance of packages are well made, BTW, just that they're not the whole story. Note also that the comprehensiveness of the Debian system far exceeds that of a base RH distro. Debian's 6700 packages vs. about 750 in core RH. Order of magnitude difference. There is also the issue of updating. A distribution maker must expend enourmous resources into making the next version of their distribution. They also must expend resources to keep their most current distribution up-to-date with the rest of the world. Let's look at Red Hat for an example. Aside from security fixes, when was the last time you were able to update to the latest GNOME desktop, using packages specifically designed for your distribution's version, from you distribuion vendor? Not very often, I can tell you. And they can't be blamed for that, either. For some things, it can be a near-full-time job for twenty or thirty packages. Considering a modern Linux distribution comes with thousands of packages, this is obviously a time-consuming prospect. Naw -- see above. Them RH users only have to deal with 10% of the issues we've got g. In fairness, RH has been attackign this problem of late, though IMO their approach is still flawed. Unfortunately, business models have a bad habit of getting in the way of good systems and development practice. Fortunately, the Debian effort appears to be largely sustainable. I'm rambling a bit. Sorry, I'm tired. Maybe I'll write an essay :) Definitely some good bits in there. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpDixtSxKW6D.pgp Description: PGP signature
CD-ROM compatibility
Hello, I have a 484/33 with a Creative Lab CD-Rom connected via a Sound Blaster 16. The install program will not mount the CD-Rom. I tried all available types, hda through hdh. I tried some mount commands that I found within the Debian GNU/Linux book via an alternate console. My question is, is my cd-rom a supported device, if it is, what should the mount command look like? Where do I find out what devices are supported, where can I get device drivers? My next step, if the creative labs cd-rom is not going to work, is put my hard drive in a my other machine, load Linux and applications, then put the hard drive back into the 486. Mel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changing console resolution?
well, since i've completely failed to get x working beyond a messed up 640x480 res that flickers and uses really wacky colors on this machine... is there a way to change the console resolution to somthing a little higher? or someone who has a thinpad 365XD w/ an active matrix screen could respond, and say that it works perfectly for them... here's how ;) right..
Re: Why choose Debian?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:12:34AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: 5) A mission to get all configuration out of programs/scripts and into config files in /etc. ...and more-or-less *flat* in /etc. Lots of subdirs are wonderfully organized and tidy, but it makes referencing scripts a fscking pain in the ass. How so? -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'We do more then just sing and dance. We've got a brain too.' -- The Backstreet Boys
Re: Suspend to RAM on a desktop computer
on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:42:14PM -0500, Arcady Genkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've got this new ASUS CUSL2-C motherboard which supports suspending to RAM function. In the manual, though, it says that one needs Windows operating system to do that. Is there any chance to utilize this functionality with Linux? Many thanks, You might look at the apmd support in Debian. I suspect this is similar to it, though I don't have specific information on your system. I'd also check other lists for reports on use of this mobo. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgp0ykshF1sSZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Stability of testing
On 19 Jan 2001, John Galt wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Bill Wohler wrote: If the stability of stable is 10 and the stability of unstable is 1, how would you rate the testing distribution? (This might be a useful metric to post on the Debian site to help Debian users decide which distribution is for them.) 5-7. Packages may change daily, but have (some of the) bugs worked out. Extremely bleeding edge software won't make it in to testing, because of the requirements to move a package from unstable to testing include usability on all architectures and some other things that imply letting it cook a little longer. If unstable is raw, and stable is well done, call testing rare to medium rare. I've been tracking testing every day or two since its inception and so far (fingers crossed) everything has worked flawlessly. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.2 (Windows-free zone) Over 100 book reviews: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/bookreviews/ Skeptical essays: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/freethinker/ The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably absurd. It is the chief occupation of mankind. - H.L. Mencken
locale problems -- LANG=en_US and iso-8859-1 fsckups
This is driving me nuts. Objective: Specify a locale value which: - Renders standard shell output properly. - Supports international (iso-8859-1 aka latin-1) charactersets. - Is supported by common text-mode utilities such as vim, mutt, tin, and w3m. - Doesn't cause Perl to choke. My current setting of LANG=en_US fails on the last three points. International characters under mutt and other utilities appear as octal representations. Perl reports that the locale is not supported: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = en-US are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I've run /usr/sbin/locale-gen as root. Checked FAQs and manpages. Google turns up little of help, though there appears to be mention of this problem on Debian lists. Anyone? I mean, just shoot me now if I'm being stupid or something. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpkz1yPcYKGJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: those problems where the easiest thing to do seems to be to reboot...
(I don´t have the thread, and no access to the archives right now, so forgive me if I repeat something. Just trying to be helpful...) 1) you 'cat' a file you shouldn't in the console mode. before you know it everything on the commandline becomes an unreadable mess of ascii characters you didn't know you had. Try eval `resize`, although it seems to be targeted only at xterms it often also works when being on a plain console. If your screen is garbled enough, you´ll have to type it blind, but that´s usually no real problem. hth, rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
Re: those problems where the easiest thing to do seems to be to reboot...
(I don´t have the thread, and no access to the archives right now, so forgive me if I repeat something. Just trying to be helpful...) 1) you 'cat' a file you shouldn't in the console mode. before you know it everything on the commandline becomes an unreadable mess of ascii characters you didn't know you had. I think that the command you must use to solve it is setterm -reset, I have just test now and it works.
Re: apt- source.list
When I issue the apt-setup command I get an error message, ..command not found. What apt package am I missing? Otherwise apt works just fine. thanks will trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:49:08AM +0100, Norman Schmidt wrote: Hi all! Another apt-problem... I use dselect to maintain my potato servers and fetch my files via ftp. from slink (2.1) onward, the recommended choise is APT-GET... At the moment, my list for the packages looks like this: deb ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/debian potato main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/debian potato/non-US main contrib non-free deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates contrib main non-free Now I want to add the lines to get the updates. Do I need and if yes, how do I include the paths? ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/debian/dists/proposed-updates (which is a link to potato-proposed-updates in the same directory) Since I use the non-US-version, do I need (and how do I get) deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/proposed-updates ? The problem seems to be that the proposed-updates - directories are not under a special distribution. I do not know how to tell this to apt/dselect. The manpage doesn´t make this clear to me... And one last one: What do I have to add to get sources as well? Thanx a lot, Norman. main thing to try is apt-setup to set your sources.list... my 'potato' sources.list looks mostly like this: # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free # deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free # VERY IMPORTANT -- SECURITY PLUGS: deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.digex.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib # deb-src http://ftp.digex.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free # deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free use mirrors that are shortest hops from you (try traceroute to see which respond best). frequently do apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade to make sure the packages you've got installed are kept sparkly fresh. http://www.eGroups.com/files/newbieDoc/apt-get-intro.html -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: locale problems -- LANG=en_US and iso-8859-1 fsckups
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:10:29AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: Objective: Specify a locale value which: - Renders standard shell output properly. - Supports international (iso-8859-1 aka latin-1) charactersets. - Is supported by common text-mode utilities such as vim, mutt, tin, and w3m. - Doesn't cause Perl to choke. My current setting of LANG=en_US fails on the last three points. As you seem to be mainly interested in getting the character set correct, you should propably set LC_CTYPE instead of LANG. Actually, I don't really even know what LANG is supposed to do :-] International characters under mutt and other utilities appear as octal representations. Setting LC_CTYPE properly fixes this. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgppix0PWtpYk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: locale problems -- LANG=en_US and iso-8859-1 fsckups
On 20 Jan 2001 02:10:29 -0800, wrote: This is driving me nuts. Objective: Specify a locale value which: - Renders standard shell output properly. - Supports international (iso-8859-1 aka latin-1) charactersets. - Is supported by common text-mode utilities such as vim, mutt, tin, and w3m. - Doesn't cause Perl to choke. My current setting of LANG=en_US fails on the last three points. International characters under mutt and other utilities appear as octal representations. Perl reports that the locale is not supported: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = en-US are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I've run /usr/sbin/locale-gen as root. Checked FAQs and manpages. Google turns up little of help, though there appears to be mention of this problem on Debian lists. Anyone? I mean, just shoot me now if I'm being stupid or something. Hi! I've fought the same problems. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0101/msg00836.html summarizes what I've learned and what I've never found out. I couldn't raise anyone's interest, unfortunately. But I think it works for me now. These are my settings as given by locale (click the given link for an explanation for some aspects): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale LANG=C LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-15 LC_NUMERIC=de_DE LC_TIME=de_DE LC_COLLATE=de_DE LC_MONETARY=de_AT LC_MESSAGES=en_US LC_ALL= [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I set them in /etc/language-de (which is installed by task-language-de) like this: LC_COLLATE=de_DE ; export LC_COLLATE LC_MONETARY=de_AT ; export LC_MONETARY LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-15 ; export LC_CTYPE LC_NUMERIC=de_DE ; export LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME=de_DE ; export LC_TIME LC_MESSAGES=en_US ; export LC_MESSAGES LC_ALL= ; export LC_ALL # set LANG: in /etc/environment # LANG=de_DE ; export LANG Setting it in /etc/environment in the following fashion is possible, too, maybe also more correct : LANG=en_US (no exports needed). Good luck -- I did not vote for the Austrian government
automount
Hi! I can't get automount to work. Has anyone had any success with it? I have the autofs module compiled for my kernel and loaded (2.2.18), and the autofs mounter is running, and scripts for it area appended. THX in advance! Bostjan -- Boštjan Müller [NEONATUS], [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://neonatus.net/~neonatus For my PGP key finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED], RSA id: 0x90178DBD, ICQ #:7506644 Celular: +386(0)41243189, Powered by Debian GNU/LiNUX , Student of VFUL Loose bits sink chips. # $Id: auto.master,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:03 hpa Exp $ # Sample auto.master file # Format of this file: # mountpoint map options # For details of the format look at autofs(8). /var/autofs/misc/etc/auto.misc /floppy /etc/auto.floppy--timeout 10 /cd-rw /etc/auto.cd-rw --timeout 10 # $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $ # This is an automounter map and it has the following format # key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location # Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage #kernel -ro ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux #boot -fstype=ext2:/dev/hda5 #removable -fstype=ext2,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/hdd #cd -fstype=iso9660,ro,nodev,nosuid :/dev/scd1 #floppy -fstype=auto,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/fd0 floppy -fstype=auto,umask=000 :/dev/fd0 # $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $ # This is an automounter map and it has the following format # key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location # Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage cd -fstype=iso9660,ro,nodev,nosuid :/dev/scd1
Re: curious: Re: running another X from within X
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 06:27:04PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: :on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:59:56PM -0500, Jonathan D. Proulx ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : The question didn't involve xapps over the network, but a lazyman's : way to start a full xsession on the local machine from within a : running xsession (for use with different display depth I belive) : :I've been ignoring this thread, but any mention xnest yet? Yup.
problem compiling kernels
Hi, I'm new to Debian and fairly new to Linux. I compiled some kernels (I'm using kernel 2.2.17) for terminals in a network (so I removed everything they don't need from the kernel except the network stuff, etc.) I compiled them on my laptop b/c it's a lot faster. Anyway I did the following after I made the configuration with menuconfig: 'make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install' Well then I moved the kernels to these machines and everything worked out fine!! But now, when I boot the original kernel on my laptop I get these errors while booting: depmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/ppp.o depmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/dummy.o ... now I can't use my modem using ppp anymore b/c when I start 'pon' I get this: ioctl(TIOCSETD(PPP)): Invalid argument(22) /usr/sbin/pppd: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not included in the kernel configuration. If PPP was included as a module, try '/sbin/modprobe -v ppp' --'modprobe -v ppp' fails too. I don't know why this is happening b/c everything was working fine before I started compiling kernels. I don't know if 'make modules_install' is the cause for this but I guess it is. (I don't have a lot of experience in compiling kernels) Can anybody tell what causes this and how I can avoid this in the future? TIA Philipp
Re: 2nd NIC seen but ifup fails
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:49:40PM -0600, hanasaki wrote: :I have two identical NIC's the both came up fine before reboot. Now :ifup eth0 works fine. ifup eth1 says no such interface. cat /proc/pci :shows both nics. : :Any ideas? Did you setup eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces? If so try using ifconfig to bring it up manually ifconfig eth1 10.10.10.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 up -Jon
Re: problem compiling kernels
your problem is that you ran make modules_install on your laptop, which installs your newly built modules over your laptops modules. You may also notice that there are no modules on your terminals. -Casey On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Philipp Bliedung wrote: Hi, I'm new to Debian and fairly new to Linux. I compiled some kernels (I'm using kernel 2.2.17) for terminals in a network (so I removed everything they don't need from the kernel except the network stuff, etc.) I compiled them on my laptop b/c it's a lot faster. Anyway I did the following after I made the configuration with menuconfig: 'make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install' Well then I moved the kernels to these machines and everything worked out fine!! But now, when I boot the original kernel on my laptop I get these errors while booting: depmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/ppp.o depmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/dummy.o ... now I can't use my modem using ppp anymore b/c when I start 'pon' I get this: ioctl(TIOCSETD(PPP)): Invalid argument(22) /usr/sbin/pppd: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not included in the kernel configuration. If PPP was included as a module, try '/sbin/modprobe -v ppp' --'modprobe -v ppp' fails too. I don't know why this is happening b/c everything was working fine before I started compiling kernels. I don't know if 'make modules_install' is the cause for this but I guess it is. (I don't have a lot of experience in compiling kernels) Can anybody tell what causes this and how I can avoid this in the future? TIA Philipp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automount
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:03:54PM +0100, Bostjan Muller wrote: :Hi! : :I can't get automount to work. Has anyone had any success with it? I have the :autofs module compiled for my kernel and loaded (2.2.18), and the autofs :mounter is running, and scripts for it area appended. I live and die by this, though my setup is different (using NIS based auto.foo maps) I suspect it's working but not how you expect. Put a CDROM in and cd /cd-rw/cd. note that you may create the /cd-rw directory (if it doesnt't exist that's ok too), you must *not* create any sub-directories. Like wise the floppy disk will be mounted as /floppy/floppy with this setup. The : in :/dev/fd0 seems odd to me, but that seems part of the example. All my automount are NFS so they're host:/path -Jon :# $Id: auto.master,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:03 hpa Exp $ :# Sample auto.master file :# Format of this file: :# mountpoint map options :# For details of the format look at autofs(8). :/var/autofs/misc /etc/auto.misc :/floppy/etc/auto.floppy--timeout 10 :/cd-rw /etc/auto.cd-rw --timeout 10 :# $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $ :# This is an automounter map and it has the following format :# key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location :# Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage : :#kernel-ro ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux :#boot -fstype=ext2:/dev/hda5 :#removable -fstype=ext2,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/hdd :#cd-fstype=iso9660,ro,nodev,nosuid :/dev/scd1 :#floppy-fstype=auto,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/fd0 :floppy -fstype=auto,umask=000 :/dev/fd0 :# $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $ :# This is an automounter map and it has the following format :# key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location :# Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage :cd -fstype=iso9660,ro,nodev,nosuid :/dev/scd1
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Re: changing console resolution?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:55:30AM -0800, forrest wrote: well, since i've completely failed to get x working beyond a messed up 640x480 res that flickers and uses really wacky colors on this machine... is there a way to change the console resolution to somthing a little higher? or someone who has a thinpad 365XD w/ an active matrix screen could respond, and say that it works perfectly for them... here's how ;) right.. Maybe there is an easier way but you can stick - vga = ask into your /etc/lilo.conf Reboot and you will be asked to make a choice. It may take a few reboots (that is the part I don't like). Then once you have decided which number your going with you would put - vga = number in /etc/lilo.conf Remember to run /sbin/lilo. hth, kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: apt- source.list
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 03:41:52AM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: When I issue the apt-setup command I get an error message, ..command not found. What apt package am I missing? Otherwise apt works just fine. thanks You have to use apt-setup as root. kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: problem compiling kernels
Hi, The easies (though perhaps not most elegant) way to prevent this in the future is to move your modules directory befor the make modules_install, tar up the modules directory from the build then move your old modules back. Your probably going to need to either use the kernel you build or if that's not possible rebuild the kernel on your laptop. The official Debian way is to use make-kpkg to do the kernel build which will create a .deb of the new kernel and modules. Very cool and works well for lots of folks. Personally I've built alot of kernels, but have never got kpkg to behave. Probably because I can build a kernel without it and thus haven't spent the time to really learn how to use this tool. -Jon
Re: changing console resolution?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:55:30AM -0800, forrest wrote: :well, since i've completely failed to get x working beyond a messed up :640x480 res that flickers and uses really wacky colors on this :machine... is there a way to change the console resolution to somthing a :little higher? : :or someone who has a thinpad 365XD w/ an active matrix screen could :respond, and say that it works perfectly for them... here's how ;) There's probably some magic number for vga= in /etc/lilo.conf, and (if my viao is any indication) ask probably won't show it as an option... Your best source of info for this and the X problem is the Linux Laptop page http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ -Jon
Re: apt- source.list
I am using it as root. Here's the error message: lymond:/home/dlm# apt-setup bash: apt-setup: command not found I am sure there's another part of apt I need to install, but can't remember what it is.. ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 03:41:52AM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: When I issue the apt-setup command I get an error message, ..command not found. What apt package am I missing? Otherwise apt works just fine. thanks You have to use apt-setup as root. kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No available ptys
Ever since upgrading from Slink to Stormix Hail, I have been having the following problems: a) When in X, I am not able to open xterm as a user. As root it is fine. Other terms like rxvt, kterm etc are working fine as user. The error message I receive is xterm: no available ptys. b) I seem to lose my personal preferences in .profile while in X as an user, whereas on console mode everything is fine. c) I cannot run the script program as user. As root there are no problems. The error message I get is openpty failed. This happens in X as well as in console mode. Any clues in this regard ? TIA USM Bish
Re: locale problems -- LANG=en_US and iso-8859-1 fsckups
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: This is driving me nuts. My current setting of LANG=en_US fails on the last three points. ^ perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = en-US ^ Anyone? I mean, just shoot me now if I'm being stupid or something. Bang. Cheers, Chris -- Got jag? http://www.tribsoft.com
Re: apt- source.list
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 07:01:21AM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: I am using it as root. Here's the error message: lymond:/home/dlm# apt-setup bash: apt-setup: command not found I am sure there's another part of apt I need to install, but can't remember what it is.. My apt-get is in - /usr/sbin/apt-setup See if it is there. There are only four apt realated packages in stable - apt-zip 0.9 (9.8k) Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media aptitude 0.0.4a-4.1 (144.7k) Console based apt frontend apt-move 3.0-13 (30k) Move cache of Debian packages into a mirror hierarchy apt 0.3.19 (471.7k) Advanced front-end for dpkg You should only have to have the apt package. kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: apt- source.list
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 09:30:21AM -0600, ktb wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 07:01:21AM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: I am using it as root. Here's the error message: lymond:/home/dlm# apt-setup bash: apt-setup: command not found I am sure there's another part of apt I need to install, but can't remember what it is.. My apt-get is in - /usr/sbin/apt-setup See if it is there. There are only four apt realated packages in stable - apt-zip 0.9 (9.8k) Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media aptitude 0.0.4a-4.1 (144.7k) Console based apt frontend apt-move 3.0-13 (30k) Move cache of Debian packages into a mirror hierarchy apt 0.3.19 (471.7k) Advanced front-end for dpkg You should only have to have the apt package. actually it appears to be in the package base-config which i don't have installed on any of my systems except a recently install potato box. (all my others were installed when potato was unstable) -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpD3aD3Ylba3.pgp Description: PGP signature
LVM, MD, what's what?
Right now I've got a 10GB drive split into 4 partitions (/, /boot, /home, and swap). I'd like to add another drive to the system, adding its space to /home, which is /dev/hda7 under my current setup. The machine currently runs kernel 2.2.18 and will be upgraded to 2.4.x once a few point releases are out. How can I go about using Multiple Disks and/or LVM to manage this addition? Is there a HOWTO someplace I should be looking at? I'm also thinking about converting from ext2 to ReiserFS at some point and would be interested in knowing about any gotchas it would involve as far as MD/LVM are concerned. Thanks!
Re: apt- source.list
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 09:30:21AM -0600, ktb wrote: You should only have to have the apt package. On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 06:43:30AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: actually it appears to be in the package base-config which i don't have installed on any of my systems except a recently install potato box. (all my others were installed when potato was unstable) Note to myself dpkg-S is my friend;) $ dpkg -S apt-setup base-config: /usr/sbin/apt-setup kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Sound for woody with 2.2.12
I want to get sound working on my woody box with kernel version 2.2.12. I was originally slink and a half with kernel 2.2.12. I upgraded to potato and then woody. I have ready numerous how-to's, articles, tutorials, and mailing lists trying to figure out how to get my isa Sound Blaster 16 (mocel CT2291) working. Several things I have read said slink needed sound compiled into the kernel. Other things have said with kernel 2.2, you use modules rather than compile the kernel. I have tried modconf and found no modules related to sound. I found articles on SB16 that say I need modules adlib_card, opl3, sb, sound, and uart401. I did a locate on these names with the .o extension and found nothing. I downloaded sndconfig from unstable which will help configure the sound card but it needs modules loaded, it says, and so does other documentation. So, I guess my questions are: Do I have to compile the kernel? If so, could I replace the kernel with a newer one instead? (I've never done this and would rather wait until I learn linux more before compiling a kernel.) If 2.2.12 does not need recompiling, how do get the modules needed? I've looked at all the packages and find no help there. _ Want a new web-based email account ? --- http://www.firstlinux.net
Re: apt- source.list
It works now, after installing the base-config package thanks ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 09:30:21AM -0600, ktb wrote: You should only have to have the apt package. On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 06:43:30AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: actually it appears to be in the package base-config which i don't have installed on any of my systems except a recently install potato box. (all my others were installed when potato was unstable) Note to myself dpkg-S is my friend;) $ dpkg -S apt-setup base-config: /usr/sbin/apt-setup kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound for woody with 2.2.12
..try su -ing to root and run /usr/sbin/modconf this will present you with a screen not unlike the one encountered when installing potato. use the arrow keys to navigate to misc.. ..there you will find the modules for soundcards.. ..first select Sound OSS (or something similar), then low-level sound support (i dont think this is needed for sb16 but i load it anyhow, just to be certain) and finally select the module named sb.o.. ..and voila, that is.. ..if your SB16 uses the default settings.. compiling a kernel isnt hard at all, aslong as you read the Kernel HOWTO.. William
How to obtain a listing of packages installed that may be used to clone config
I've seen some vague reference to this before. But can't figure out when or where. A friend is going to switch from Debian to Win2K (I know - completely evil) for their cable modem sharing machine. I set up the Debian box and would like to take a snapshot of the config.. They're happy to get rid of old 486 that's currently doing it as they realise a 486 won't hack it for Win2K, but they want to put existing HDD (and hence blow away config) into Win2K machine. Would like to know how to obtain a listing of installed packages on the system in a format such that I may easily feed this listing to a new install to have exactly the same packages. I assume in addition to this package listing, I'd need to take a copy of existing /etc dir (ignoring parts that are OK in package supplied format) TIA ADFH
Re: How to obtain a listing of packages installed that may be used to clone config
* hogan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've seen some vague reference to this before. But can't figure out when or where. A friend is going to switch from Debian to Win2K (I know - completely evil) for their cable modem sharing machine. I set up the Debian box and would like to take a snapshot of the config.. They're happy to get rid of old 486 that's currently doing it as they realise a 486 won't hack it for Win2K, but they want to put existing HDD (and hence blow away config) into Win2K machine. Would like to know how to obtain a listing of installed packages on the system in a format such that I may easily feed this listing to a new install to have exactly the same packages. dpkg --get-selections dpkg --set-selections For more info : man dpkg I assume in addition to this package listing, I'd need to take a copy of existing /etc dir (ignoring parts that are OK in package supplied format) TIA ADFH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound for woody with 2.2.12
William Leese wrote: the module named sb.o.. ..and voila, that is.. ..if your SB16 uses the default settings.. I wondered if you could help me out here... I have a SB16 and have succesfully compiled the sound options in the kernel and can hear sound fine. But I saw somewhere someone with the same card having additional modules. My question is, do I need those modules, and if so, where are they in the kernel config section? ie What options do I turn on that I missed in the sound section? I have in modules: sound uart401 sb io... Missing: mpu... op13... Thanks. Jonathan
Re: CD-ROM compatibility
Hi. I'm pretty sure I had the exact same cd-rom setup on a Dell 486/33 that I had. You need the cdu31a driver. I don't remember all the exact details of how I got it to work, just that I did. Check out /usr/src/linux/Documentation/cdu31a if you have the kernel source installed or else I can send it to you if you want. I didn't have to compile a custom kernel on the red hat 6.2 installation that i did on that 486, the cdu31a driver was included, but I had to configure it and pass it some addresses or something. Hope this helps. -Jeff Melvin Rogers wrote: Hello, I have a 484/33 with a Creative Lab CD-Rom connected via a Sound Blaster 16. The install program will not mount the CD-Rom. I tried all available types, hda through hdh. I tried some mount commands that I found within the Debian GNU/Linux book via an alternate console. My question is, is my cd-rom a supported device, if it is, what should the mount command look like? Where do I find out what devices are supported, where can I get device drivers? My next step, if the creative labs cd-rom is not going to work, is put my hard drive in a my other machine, load Linux and applications, then put the hard drive back into the 486. Mel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2nd NIC seen but ifup fails
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:49:40PM -0600, hanasaki wrote: I have two identical NIC's the both came up fine before reboot. Now ifup eth0 works fine. ifup eth1 says no such interface. cat /proc/pci shows both nics. you'll have to specify the second nic on the `mod-line' see for examples in the manuals, e.g. the Ethernet HOWTO. looked it up: put in /etc/modules.conf something like: alias eth0 3c501 alias eth1 3c501 options eth0 -o 3c501-0 io=0x280 irq=5 options eth1 -o 3c501-1 io=0x300 irq=7 Oh, and to put something in /etc/modules.conf you actually should use /etc/modutils/... -- groetjes, carel
problem with cups and g-brief
Hello, I am using Debian unstable with Kernel 2.4.0, and yesterday finally made the transition from lprng to cups. Everything works quite well, except for a single problem with the LaTeX package g-brief: Compared to the printout with lprng, the printout of g-brief is now shifted upwards for about 2 mm with cups, so that the letter head is slightly cut off above, and the address field does not fit exactly anymore into the envelope's window. Of course I did configure cups for the correct (German) paper size A4 as default, just like I did previously with lprng and magicfilter. Thus, it is not a problem of incorrect paper size. The command 'lp -o page-top=1 foo' does not have any effect, and any attempt to change the paper margins with the frontends gtklp, kups or qtcups was without any effect either. Thus, how could this problem be solved? Best wishes, Guenter -- Linux: Who needs GATES in a world without fences?
Re: netscape ftp vs http
On Saturday 20 January 2001 06:24, Svante Signell wrote: What am I doing wrong trying to download files from eg. http/:www.fileplanet.com or http://www,3ddownloads.com using Netscape (4.76)? You don't get the possibility to shiftclick on the file, it just starts downloading to the Netscape buffer!! Not as expected. I'm moving to mozilla ASAP, but meanwhile, what to do?? Any settings to change? Maybe this is IE behavior copied to NS, but you should get a question, whether to download or to view. Is this unreasonable? I think you'd be better off using a dedicated web file downloader like wget or pavuk, especially if you have lots of files to download.
Re: LVM, MD, what's what?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 10:45:25AM -0500, Alec Smith wrote: Right now I've got a 10GB drive split into 4 partitions (/, /boot, /home, and swap). I'd like to add another drive to the system, adding its space to /home, which is /dev/hda7 under my current setup. The machine currently runs kernel 2.2.18 and will be upgraded to 2.4.x once a few point releases are out. How can I go about using Multiple Disks and/or LVM to manage this addition? Is there a HOWTO someplace I should be looking at? I'm also thinking about converting from ext2 to ReiserFS at some point and would be interested in knowing about any gotchas it would involve as far as MD/LVM are concerned. There is a HOWTO. apt-get install doc-linux-html or http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO-1.html -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net
Re: No available ptys
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 20:38:57 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error message I receive is xterm: no available ptys. c) I cannot run the script program as user. As root there are no problems. The error message I get is openpty failed. This happens in X as well as in console mode. I suspect you don't have the devpts pseudo-filesystem mounted. Try adding something like devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 to /etc/fstab. On Debian, libc6's /etc/init.d/devpts.sh takes care of mounting the devpts pseudo-filesystem. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
strange files, break-in?
I've noticed three strange files in /root dir: host:~# ls -al /root -rw-r--r--1 root root 1024 Jan 5 11:20 ..hwm -rw-r--r--1 root root 214184 Jan 5 11:20 ..pwd -rw-r--r--1 root root11356 Jan 5 11:20 ..pwi ..pwd is ascii with a lot of control chars in it, the other two are binaries. Is this a side product of running some program or maybe some break-in leftover? -Igor Mozetic
Re: 2nd NIC seen but ifup fails
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 06:23:47PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote: :On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:49:40PM -0600, hanasaki wrote: : I have two identical NIC's the both came up fine before reboot. Now : ifup eth0 works fine. ifup eth1 says no such interface. cat /proc/pci : shows both nics. : :you'll have to specify the second nic on the `mod-line' :see for examples in the manuals, e.g. the Ethernet HOWTO. Is this still required with the kernel autoloader? I don't have any eth aliases in my /etc/modules, though I don't have any multihomed machines with matched cards (usually eepro100 on board ant tulip based PCI) -Jon
Re: 2nd NIC seen but ifup fails
I have two identical NIC's the both came up fine before reboot. Now ifup eth0 works fine. ifup eth1 says no such interface. cat /proc/pci shows both nics. What do you have in /etc/network/interfaces ? -Igor Mozetic
Re: strange files, break-in?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 07:20:52PM +0100, Igor Mozetic wrote: :I've noticed three strange files in /root dir: : :host:~# ls -al /root :-rw-r--r--1 root root 1024 Jan 5 11:20 ..hwm :-rw-r--r--1 root root 214184 Jan 5 11:20 ..pwd :-rw-r--r--1 root root11356 Jan 5 11:20 ..pwi : :..pwd is ascii with a lot of control chars in it, the other :two are binaries. Is this a side product of running some :program or maybe some break-in leftover? I vote for break-in I can think of no legitimate programs that create double dot files (did sombody thik this would make them harder to see???) a couple of things to do: run strings on the binary files, some times you can figure out what they are this way. do a netstat -tap|less as root this will show all(-a) active tcp(-t) connections and listening sockes and the processes (-p) that own them do a find /dev -type f this will find any regular files in /dev, there shouldn't be any they're all device special files (except the MAKEDEV script which may be a regular file but on current debian systems is a symlink to /sbin/MAKEDEV and not a regular file) look at /etc/inetd.conf some backdoors are put in this file (usually at the end) It would be best to copy over known good versions of find and netstat as these may be trojaned (find usally isn't netstat often is) -Jon
Re: CD-ROM compatibility
Creative used several models of CD-ROMs with Sound Blaster cards. Some used a proprietary interface, while others used an IDE interface (the cards had both). I believe different modules are required for the different varieties, but I would first try 'insmod sb'. Bob On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 12:56:05PM -0800, Melvin Rogers wrote: Hello, I have a 484/33 with a Creative Lab CD-Rom connected via a Sound Blaster 16. The install program will not mount the CD-Rom. I tried all available types, hda through hdh. I tried some mount commands that I found within the Debian GNU/Linux book via an alternate console. My question is, is my cd-rom a supported device, if it is, what should the mount command look like? Where do I find out what devices are supported, where can I get device drivers? My next step, if the creative labs cd-rom is not going to work, is put my hard drive in a my other machine, load Linux and applications, then put the hard drive back into the 486. Mel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
rpm vs deb
Hi , I am confused over one topic. If you install a rpm package will it be known to the system? Basicly what I am tring to do,is to install Java1.3 from IBM, because the one from Blackdown has a bug(can't use the debugger) and I would like to avoid a lot of warning against dependacies. Can anybody clarify this for me, or direct me where to read please ? Thank you , Florentin. -- Greetings , Florentin __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: rpm vs deb
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 13:57:29 -0500, Tino Ionescu wrote: I am confused over one topic. If you install a rpm package will it be known to the system? Not if you install it using rpm. If you use alien it will be registered with the packaging system. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
[Q] creating deb from source...just curious
Although I successfully created a powerpc deb of qmail, I have several questions about my methods. I knew I need to start with the source, so using apt-get and the following sources.list line: #deb-src ftp://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/debian stable main contrib non-free I retrieved (If i remember exactly) qmail_1.0.3-14.diff.gz, qmail_1.0.3-14.dsc, and qmail_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz. As I soon found out, I couldn't make these into a powerpc, even though there was a debian directory in qmail...tar.gz which referred to making a deb package. Compile would always fail. O.K. second try, I instead found another package qmail-src_1.03-14.deb, so I thought I would try this one. Installing this package, however, in and of itself did not create a new powerpc deb based on this source. Instead, it generated in /usr/src/qmail a folder with all its source, just like I found in the previously downloaded .tar file. Yet, in this one, there was no debian directory. After installing qmail-src_1.03-14.deb, the install notified me that I would have to build the powerpc deb myself using: build-qmail. I couldn't find any such command, until I looked at the debian directory of the previously untarred qmail_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz. Curiously, there was a file name build-PACKAGE. After several attempts at running this script, it turned out that I needed to rename it 'build-qmail' Running the script with this name indeed produced what I needed: qmail_1.03-14_powerpc.deb. So I got really lucky. I just happened to find the build-PACKAGE script stashed among source code that i couldn't compile myself. So my question is: where was I suppose to get build-PACKAGE if I hadn't downloaded the original tar source? Is it automatically provided somewhere by another package, and I just couldn't find it? If so, which one and where is it installed in Debian potato? Seems like there should be a README or a HOWTO about making such debs. Thanks, -- W. Crowshaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
[Q]apt-get'ting x4 debs...
So, I found the necessary X4 debs for my powerpc debian. At this mirror location, they are ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/pool/main/x/xfree86/xserver-xfree86_4.0.2-1_powerpc.deb . How do I set up sources.list so that it downloads the necessary packages. I have tried combinations such as deb ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/pool/main/x/xfree86/ deb ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/ pool/main/x/xfree86 deb ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/pool/ None of these works (No surprise there). Do I need to instead download the necessary packages individually using an ftp session? I rather have apt-get do it, because of its ability to partially download files and then resume downloads later? Thanks, -- W. Crowshaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
How to make apt-get upgrade interactive?
Hello, all. While I generally trust apt-get upgrade, I'd like to have it print out a list of the packages to be upgraded and possibly check with me before it actually does anything. I'm a little unsure how to do this, though. Based on the manpage, I added APT::Get::Show-Upgraded true; to /etc/apt/apt.conf, but this didn't seem to have any effect. What's happening here? ii apt0.3.19 Advanced front-end for dpkg Thanks, Richard
cant compile gtk theme
hey all. im tryin to install a gtk theme from source, and am getting this error: checking for gtk-config... no checking for GTK - version = 1.2.0... no *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gtk-config. configure: error: *** GTK 1.2 not installed - please install first *** I am running potato, and do have libgtk1.2 installed, along with gtk-engines-pixmaps package as well.. any ideas ? new to debian, so any input would be appreciated =)
Re: mailing list digest splitting
Matias Vidal saw fit to inform me that: Hi, you can split the digest if you use procmail to organize your mail... In your .procmailrc add a rule that catch the digest and execute formail +1 -ds FullPathToTheMailbox Something like this: Start .procmailrc :0 * ^Subjet:.*Debian-user-digest.* | formail +1 -ds /home/matias/mail/listas/debian-user :0: * ^TOdebian-user | formail +2 -ds Today_debian works perfectly well. Thanks to all for the help. Regards -- Rajesh Fowkar /**\ * SiS6215 Card Configuration, RAID Configuration, Oracle 8i Installation under Linux * - Visit My Web Site * WebSite:http://rajesh.computers.webjump.com * Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Address:KURTARKAR NAGARI,BLDG-C,T4,3RD FLOOR,SHANTINAGAR,PONDA-GOA.(INDIA) * * The expert at anything was once a beginner. * -Hayes /**\
Re: How to make apt-get upgrade interactive?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:09:30PM -0600, Richard Cobbe wrote:
APT::Get::Show-Upgraded true;
I have the following and it works:
APT::Get::Show-Upgraded yes;
Cheers,
Sven
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Re: cant compile gtk theme
Le sam, 20 jan 2001 20:26:19, Marcial Zamora III a écrit : hey all. im tryin to install a gtk theme from source, and am getting this error: checking for gtk-config... no checking for GTK - version = 1.2.0... no *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gtk-config. configure: error: *** GTK 1.2 not installed - please install first *** I am running potato, and do have libgtk1.2 installed, along with gtk-engines-pixmaps package as well.. any ideas ? new to debian, so any input would be appreciated =) When you want to compile you need the -dev package associated with the libraries (libgtk1.2-dev in this case) in order to get the header files and so on. Philippe -- Philippe Marzouk. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cant compile gtk theme
To quote Marcial Zamora III [EMAIL PROTECTED], # hey all. im tryin to install a gtk theme from source, and am getting this error: # # checking for gtk-config... no # checking for GTK - version = 1.2.0... no # *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found # *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in # *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the # *** full path to gtk-config. # configure: error: *** GTK 1.2 not installed - please install first *** # # I am running potato, and do have libgtk1.2 installed, along with gtk-engines-pixmaps package as well.. # any ideas ? new to debian, so any input would be appreciated =) There are lots of extra things you need to compile. Headers, little config programs, you name it, it's required. Rather than include all those extra things in the libgtk1.2 package, it's seperated - libgtk1.2-dev is what you're looking for. So, to compile an app that uses libgtk1.2 , you'll need libgtk1.2-dev . This is the same for most library-like packages - they'll also have a -dev package which you can use to compile apps that use that library. Incidentally, compiling and installing from source into your regular system is generally not a good idea. You should seperate those packages which you compile and install yourself. Add something like '--prefix=/extras --sysconfdir=/extras/etc' to the ./configure command. That'll likely keep the package management system happy. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: How to make apt-get upgrade interactive?
* Richard Cobbe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010120 09:10]: Hello, all. While I generally trust apt-get upgrade, I'd like to have it print out a list of the packages to be upgraded and possibly check with me before it actually does anything. I'm a little unsure how to do this, though. Based on the manpage, I added I always run apt-get -u upgrade. I think that is what you're looking for. You can't control which of the packages it will install this way, but at least if there's one you don't want, you can go about upgrading some other way. Regards Hall
syslogd and exim cron job every 20 minutes
How would I get rid of the message about exim cron job being printed at /dev/xconsole? This job runs every 20 minutes and I would like not to see reports of it unless there was an error. ,[ /dev/xconsole ] | Jan 20 14:38:01 tea /USR/SBIN/CRON[5850]: (mail) CMD ( if [ -x \ | /usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q \ | /dev/null 21; fi) ` I tried changing /etc/syslog.conf in several ways, but it seems like I can't put my finger on just the right thing to say there. I tried putting mail.!* and cron.!* into the last rule (the one that ends in |/dev/xconsole), but it doesn't do the trick. Any input greately appreciated! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Sound for woody with 2.2.12
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Rick Loga wrote: I want to get sound working on my woody box with kernel version 2.2.12. I was originally slink and a half with kernel 2.2.12. I upgraded to potato and then woody. I have ready numerous how-to's, articles, tutorials, and mailing lists trying to figure out how to get my isa Sound Blaster 16 (mocel CT2291) working. Several things I have read said slink needed sound compiled into the kernel. Other things have said with kernel 2.2, you use modules rather than compile the kernel. I have tried modconf and found no modules related to sound. I found articles on SB16 that say I need modules adlib_card, opl3, sb, sound, and uart401. I did The important one here is sb. The rest should come along for the ride a locate on these names with the .o extension and found nothing. I look in /lib/modules/2.2.12/misc downloaded sndconfig from unstable which will help configure the sound card but it needs modules loaded, it says, and so does other documentation. So, I guess my questions are: Do I have to compile the kernel? If you can't find the sb module easily, that IS a way to ensure you have it. If so, could I replace the kernel with a newer one instead? (I've never Nothing stopping you. apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.18 (2.4.0 is packaged, but I think it's in sid...). 2.2.18 WILL have module sb in it... done this and would rather wait until I learn linux more before compiling a kernel.) If 2.2.12 does not need recompiling, how do get the modules needed? I've looked at all the packages and find no help there. modprobe sb _ Want a new web-based email account ? --- http://www.firstlinux.net -- EMACS == Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: Sound for woody with 2.2.12
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: William Leese wrote: the module named sb.o.. ..and voila, that is.. ..if your SB16 uses the default settings.. I wondered if you could help me out here... I have a SB16 and have succesfully compiled the sound options in the kernel and can hear sound fine. But I saw somewhere someone with the same card having additional modules. My question is, do I need those modules, and if so, where are they in the kernel config section? ie What options do I turn on that I missed in the sound section? I have in modules: sound uart401 sb io... Missing: mpu... op13... These mostly deal with midi. mpu is mpu 401 support (NOT for SB) which is self explanatory why you shouldn't need it, and opl3 is ymf 2XXX/opl3 support. My advice to you on the opl3 is don't get too het up about recompiling specifically for it, but make sure you do it the next time you build a kernel... Thanks. Jonathan -- EMACS == Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: How to make apt-get upgrade interactive?
You could run it dry once with apt-get -s... On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Richard Cobbe wrote: Hello, all. While I generally trust apt-get upgrade, I'd like to have it print out a list of the packages to be upgraded and possibly check with me before it actually does anything. I'm a little unsure how to do this, though. Based on the manpage, I added APT::Get::Show-Upgraded true; to /etc/apt/apt.conf, but this didn't seem to have any effect. What's happening here? ii apt0.3.19 Advanced front-end for dpkg Thanks, Richard -- EMACS == Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: [Q]apt-get'ting x4 debs...
* W. Crowshaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So, I found the necessary X4 debs for my powerpc debian. At this mirror location, they are ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/pool/main/x/xfree86/xserver-xfree86_4.0.2-1_powerpc.deb . How do I set up sources.list so that it downloads the necessary packages. I have tried combinations such as deb ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/pool/main/x/xfree86/ deb ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/ pool/main/x/xfree86 deb ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/pool/ None of these works (No surprise there). Do I need to instead download the necessary packages individually using an ftp session? I rather have apt-get do it, because of its ability to partially download files and then resume downloads later? You need to put the following line : deb ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian unstable main In fact, need a file Packages.gz that indicate where the differents packages can be found. This file is located in : ftp://ftp.digex.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz Bye -- DEFRESNE Sylvain
Re: gppp
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 06:51:10PM -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! I am running potato 2.2r plus ximian-gnome. The dial-up utility which appears in the foot menu under the internet submenu is the gnome-ppp 0.99.0. When I try to run it (as an alternative to pon/poff) I received an error: The ppp daemon died unexpectedly, quite vage, isn't? Any help will be very appreciated! Marcelo hello, same problem here, i guess.. syslog comments this with a laconic modem hangup.. strange humor.. i managed to take a few more steps in the login procedure when i used the script option but then i only got a bunch of random characters thrown at me after the password is sent, the connection is still unusable and dies anyway.. it's not a life-or-death issue since one can always use billions of other methods to connect but if anyone has some suggestions i'd appreciate that, too.. tia, frank.
Re: How to make apt-get upgrade interactive?
Lo, on Saturday, January 20, Hall Stevenson did write: * Richard Cobbe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010120 09:10]: Hello, all. While I generally trust apt-get upgrade, I'd like to have it print out a list of the packages to be upgraded and possibly check with me before it actually does anything. I'm a little unsure how to do this, though. Based on the manpage, I added I always run apt-get -u upgrade. I think that is what you're looking for. You can't control which of the packages it will install this way, but at least if there's one you don't want, you can go about upgrading some other way. Yes, this is what I was looking for, but I'd prefer a way to do it via the config file rather than supply the option each time. However, Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested in another post using APT::Get::Show-Upgraded yes; I was using true instead of yes; none of the man pages that I found specified the set of possible values for boolean options. I'll have to try this next time I need to update a package. Thanks to all who replied, Richard
