Re: Floppy Installation

[Scott Henson]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 22:53, Aravind Vinnakota wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>Previously I installed Debian on my (Sun Ultra 5 sparc) system using
> CDs. Now, I am looking for other ways to install it. Right now, we install
> Redhat using a minimal image on a floppy and boot the system and install
> the OS from our local mirror using http. I am looking something similar to
> that on Debian also. I just want to use a basic image on a single floppy
> and install the entire OS from our local mirror using http. I looked into
> the docs, it listed many ways to install, but the one using floppies
> consume lot of them and I dont think that is right way to do. Do you think
> using the rescue and root images will help. Can anyone suggest me ways to
> do what I want? Please cc me as I am not on the list.

What you can do with just the root and rescue floppies depends a lot on
what network card you have.  Check the .config for the version of the
boot floppy you are using, and if your network card is compiled in then
you can boot using just the rescue and root floppies and then get
everything else over the network.  I used to do this all the time till
they started compiling the vortex drivers as a module.  If you don't
find your driver compiled in I think you can compile your own rescue
floppy then use the root floppy.  I have yet to try this approach, but I
think it should work in theory.  Good luck.

PS I noticed your wvu.edu address.  I am a MAE major at WVU.  I have
only ever installed to x86, but if you need any help or anything like
that Id love to meet other people who are interested in Debian.  
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Re: can't get epson perfection 1650 scanner to work, xsane just sits there... no gui comes up

[Cam Ellison]

* Walter Tautz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Just to reply to myself. It seems to be working now. Either the reboot
> worked or because the root file system was full and consequently
> the scanner module may not have been properly loaded. Albeit I'm
> getting a black and white image even though the image I'm scanning
> is colour.
> 
The default setting for xscanimage is black-and-white.  Just change
the setting.  I think it's about the middle of the window someplace.

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Re: OT: IBM PS/2

[Dave Thayer]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 12:09:08PM +0100, Paladin wrote:
> Does any one know how to access the BIOS setup of an old IBM PS/2?
> It seems that hitting "del" while booting doesn't work...

Try holding down a shift key while rebooting. This will frequently
cause a keyboard error with a message instructing how to get into the
setup screen.

dt

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Re: ACPI

[Joey Hess]

Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x02 (Driver version 1.16)
> apm: disabled on user request.
> ACPI: Core Subsystem version [20011018]
> ACPI: Subsystem enabled
> 
> (The 20011018 looks pretty old - is there a more recent .deb?)

That version number is the version of the ACPI /proc/ interface, not the
exact driver version. That's current in the 2.4.18 kernel. You don't say
what kernel version you're using.

> The installation of acpid (from the .deb, of course!) appeared to be fine,
> in that most of the appropriate directories and files were created
> (/etc/acpi, /etc/acpi/events, /etc/init.d/acpid) but acpid doesn't start
> on boot, and when I try to start it manually, it reports:
> 
> acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: No such file or directory
> 
> And, sure enough, that file doesn't exist.

Do you have anything in /proc/acpi? Along with the event file, you
should have an info file, and a battery/ directory with a 0/ or 1/
subdirectory with files in it, and perhaps a similar thermal/ directory.

> and my machine promptly shut down :)  (Suggesting that acpid is in fact
> working?  Or not - the logfile suggests that it just ran the powerbtn
> script.  And actually what it did was shut down to the point of telling me
> to "Power down" which, if that's what it's going to do, won't be as useful
> as I'd hoped.  That may depend on a BIOS setting, I think.)

That doesn't sound like acpi is working on your system; it should be
able to power it down.

You might want to try the newer version of acpi in the 2.5 kernel
series, or from their website. You might first want to build a kernel
with acpi debugging turned on. Here is a good start for your kernel's
.config for acpi:

CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BUSMGR=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_CPU=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_CMBATT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y

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Re: FreeCraft, SDL Audio and ESD

[Ian D. Stewart]

On 2002.06.14 22:58 Ian D. Stewart wrote:

Howdy Folks,

I recently installed the FreeCraft .debs, and I the main screen comes 
up Ok.  However, there is a message at the top that says 'Sound 
Disabled.  Please check!'.  When I exit the program, there is an 
error message:


Couldn't open audio: No available audio device

I've confirmed that SDL_AUDIODRIVER is set to 'esd' (I am using the 
ESound Audio Daemon to play event sounds in Gnome).  Is there 
anything else I should check?


As it normally goes, I found the source of the problem after posting my 
message.  I was missing the libsdl-debian-esd package.  Once that was 
installed, everything went swimmingly.



Ian


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Re: Antivirus Illuminati

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Paul Johnson  quotation:

> It begs to be asked:  How do we know virus companies aren't hiring the
> folks writing the viruses?

Because they'd get sued, and possibly prosecuted criminally as well. The
AV companies are unscrupulous, ambulance-chasing swine who make a living
out of scaring people with inflated claims of the dangers of viruses,
but they're not _that_ stupid.

Craig


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Re: appearance of xfce on Debian

[Michael P. Soulier]

On 14/06/02 Kevin C. Smith did speaketh:

> It sets the bar below the screen for some reason.
> 
> edit ~/.xfce/xfwm-session
> 
> for [WM_NAME] XFce Main Panel
> change [GEOMETRY] 
> Mine looks like this: [GEOMETRY] 110 722 808 46 0 0
> 
> See if that works.

This happened to me too, on both my desktop and my laptop.

Mike

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FreeCraft, SDL Audio and ESD

[Ian D. Stewart]

Howdy Folks,

I recently installed the FreeCraft .debs, and I the main screen comes 
up Ok.  However, there is a message at the top that says 'Sound 
Disabled.  Please check!'.  When I exit the program, there is an error 
message:


Couldn't open audio: No available audio device

I've confirmed that SDL_AUDIODRIVER is set to 'esd' (I am using the 
ESound Audio Daemon to play event sounds in Gnome).  Is there anything 
else I should check?



Thanx,
Ian


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Antivirus Illumnati

[Paul Johnson]

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 01:07:29PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:

> Which rather begs the question of what the point is of "infecting" the
> JPEG files at all. This whole thing is just more of McAfee's usual
> dishonest hype for their anti-virus software.

It begs to be asked:  How do we know virus companies aren't hiring the
folks writing the viruses?

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Re: OT: Perrun virus: Is this Windoze only?

[Paul Johnson]

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 12:03:21PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Today's Sacramento Bee contains a news report about a new virus,
> called Perrun, that infects JPEG files. (Yes, data files) Does anyone
> on this list know what this is? and is it a problem for Debian
> GNU/Linux?

This is a problem for members of the bug-of-the-day club only.  Sit back
and laugh at them now.  8:o)

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Re: if I post here I will get spammed of course?

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 05:30:43AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> I'm scared s*itless about wafting about my real e-mail address on my
> posts here, as I've already seen account after account of mine get
> buried in spam and now all's I got left is my real ISP address-- all
> from posting to "little known mailing lists".

My solution...

1) RBL lookups at the mailserver.  (extensive!) 

2) Spamassassin to tag what little spam makes it past at the mailserver
(though this is just as easily done from procmailrcs at the user level).

3) Procmail to filter spam off to a holding bin until I get a chance to
report it.

4) Report *ALL* spam.  spamcop.net is a Godsend.

If anybody wants my exim.conf for an example, email me privately and
I'll email it to you.  Depends on spamassassin, recommend razor.  If you
use it, you can dike out the spamassassin checking (but why?), and you
will need to change everywhere it lists sites to what's appropriate for
you; I don't appreciate the mystery bounce from nowhere...

> Anyways I tremble in my boots each time one of you CCs to my real
> address, can't you Bcc me?

Spammers are terrorists, don't let the terrorists win.
http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/

> You see I'm 31K modem brief connect to ISP POP box.  I read this group
> on google.  Sure I've got procmail etc. turned on.  But that's only
> for after one downloads the box contents.  One need IMAP to scan the
> headers before download.  Anyway, believe me, 20-30 mails a day and my
> slow POP box is over with.

Do you use fetchmail?

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Floppy Installation

[Aravind Vinnakota]

Hi all,
   Previously I installed Debian on my (Sun Ultra 5 sparc) system using
CDs. Now, I am looking for other ways to install it. Right now, we install
Redhat using a minimal image on a floppy and boot the system and install
the OS from our local mirror using http. I am looking something similar to
that on Debian also. I just want to use a basic image on a single floppy
and install the entire OS from our local mirror using http. I looked into
the docs, it listed many ways to install, but the one using floppies
consume lot of them and I dont think that is right way to do. Do you think
using the rescue and root images will help. Can anyone suggest me ways to
do what I want? Please cc me as I am not on the list.

thanks in advance,
Aravind




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Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 04:34:29AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:

> By the way, of the other experiments:
> insmod: apm: no module by that name found
> I sure don't understand linux modules.  It cannot be found, but one
> can turn it on at the boot prompt.

OK, APM is compiled into the kernel and not as a module.

> So I even did installed powermgmt-base, because I think there were
> some "apm" words in there... zanier and zanier... coocoo

powermgmt-base isn't necissary to power off.  I've never even heard of
that package before.

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МЕТОД,
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Су-джок терапията е последното 
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усвоена от всеки за няколко часа.
 
Със су-джок можете да се лекувате сами 
без да е нужно да имате медицинска подготовка. 
 
Су-джок терапията лекува дори 
болести, които са трудно лечими, а понякога и нелечими от съвременната 
медицина.
 
 ДОКОСНЕТЕ 
СЕ ДО СУ-ДЖОК ТЕРАПИЯТА
И ТЯ ЩЕ СТАНЕ 
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публичното пространство) е дублиран по невнимание. Извиняваме се ако Ви 
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Предложение 
:
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су-джок терапия. Рецептите са детайлно разработени и могат да бъдат 
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Можем да Ви информираме периодично 
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Re: webmin

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Kevin C. Smith wrote:

> Anyone know how to fix this. I get:
>
> proc::pty_process_exec failed : Undefined subroutine &proc::get_new_pty
> called at /usr/share/webmin/proc/proc-lib.pl line 176.
>
> in several webmin modules:
>   Linux Bootup Configuration
>   Partitions on Local Disks
>
>

Which version of webmin?
Which version of Debian (i.e. unstable, testing etc)

Give me something to wrk with.  Also using the Bug Tracking System is more
likely to get a problem noticed by the maintainer than posting here.

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Re: /etc/printcap with CUPS & Openoffice 1.0

[W. Paul Mills]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (nate) writes:

> hi.
>
> this is getting frustrating. I recently setup CUPS on my desktop
> to spool to a Jetdirect card connected to a HP Laserjet 4000.
>
> I can print fine if i use lpr, or if i use netscape(4.x) which
> calls lpr, or adobe acrobat reader which calls lpr too. everything
> comes out fine.  I can print select(!) documents from open/star office.
> specifically i have printed 2 documents, and they seem to print
> reliably, i have printed each several times.
>
> the rest of the documents go into a black hole. cups records
> them being queued and claim they were accepted by the printer,
> but monitoring the 'remote printer panel' from jetdirect admin tool
> shows no data being recieved for most of the jobs(and nothing
> comes out for them).
>
> I have tried various different settings in staroffice 6.0 and
> openoffice 1.0 and staroffice 5.2. I don't know why i can print
> some documents(both are word docs), but not others. specifically
> i mostly use star/open office to make generic address labels(printed
> to normal US Letter paper, not to actual address label sticker things.
> so the documents are not complex, just a few lines of text in a large
> font(for boxes). i tried saving my documents into word format and
> printing and nothing changed.
>
> at the moment i have worked around it by printing to a file and
> using ps2pdf to convert to pdf and printing from adobe acrobat.
>
> I used to be able to print fine from staroffice 5.2, then i installed
> 6.0 and could not print anymore using my existing system, which
> was spool to lpd locally, then spool to remote lpd, and it would
> then spool through a NT server to the printer. thats when i
> switched to cups.
>
> i changed cups' config so it outputs the printcap file to /etc/printcap,
> but that doesn't seem to have helped. the only thing it prints
> out is the name of the printer and a colon. i'm really lost.

I had a similar problem with wordperfect 7. I used "lpr -o raw"
with cups to solve the problem.

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Re: /etc/printcap with CUPS & Openoffice 1.0

[Hubert Chan]

> "nate" == nate  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

nate> at the moment i have worked around it by printing to a file and
nate> using ps2pdf to convert to pdf and printing from adobe acrobat.

I can't really help you with your printing problem, since I don't print
From Star/Open Office, but you can save a step in your workaround.  If
you run spadmin, you can create a PDF writer which basically runs ps2pdf
for you.

You may also want to try converting the PDF file back to ps using
pdftops or pdf2ps (I don't know what the difference is, but they're both
installed on my system), and printing the resulting ps file.  I've found
that that sometimes helps with bad ps files.

It looks like what is happening is that Star/Open Office is generating
bad PostScript.  CUPS passes it off the printer driver, so as far as
CUPS is concerned, the file's printed.  The driver barfs on the bad
PostScript, so it doesn't actually send anything to the printer, but
can't notify CUPS that something's wrong.

PS.  Doesn't the LaserJet 4000 speak PostScript natively?  Or is it just
certain models?  If yours does, it may be worth using a normal PPD
instead of the foomatic driver.  A Google search on "HP LaserJet 4000
PPD" reveals http://hp.sourceforge.net/ where you can download such a
file.

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Re: Mandrake to Debian migration guide?

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 06:17:43AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Anybody written a Mandrake to Debian migration guide?  It's been half
> a month and I'm only 1/2 way thru migrating from Mandrake 7.2 to
> woody.  Perhaps due to encrusting myself with scripts that have this
> file moved or that service closed on debian and need rewriting.

Install as dual boot.
Initially run debian as chroot in Mandrake.
Then move/copy files
Run Debian with Mandrake as chroot
Look into or run Mandrake if you need it.

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Re: Sony SDT-7000 Tape Drive & DDS2 Tapes?

[Mike Dresser]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, j2 wrote:

> DDS1: 1GB
> DDS2: 4GB
> DDS3: 12GB
> DDS4: 24GB
>
> (above is all _physical_ data capacity)

DDS1 is 2 gig.
DDS4 is 20 gig.


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Re: GLIBC error

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 04:02:02PM -0700, ian wrote:
> i upgraded to XFree86 4.1 and now when i try to run emacs, vi, etc. i
> keep getting this error:
> 
> /lib/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.2' not found required by 
> /user/X11R6/libX11.so.6

How did you upgrade? It sounds like you've forced dependencies or
similar.

If you're trying to install XFree86 4.1 on potato, try this:

  http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf410_potato/

... or just upgrade to woody since it's pretty close to stable.

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Re: IBM PS/2

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 12:38:45AM +0100, Paladin wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:40:59 +0100
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert
> > attributions, and it keeps starting new threads which I have to
> > manually link together in mutt if I want to follow the
> > conversation ...
> 
> In the header of the message I wrote:
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> In the message from Pedersen, that was able to follow the thread:
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I was talking to Jan, not you. Sorry for any confusion.

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Re: if I report debian bugs will I get emailed for life?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 06:19:47PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> You will get email in the following circumstances :
> 1)  the maintainer acknowledges or closes the bug
> (if you reported it, don't you want to know it's been fixed?)
> 2)  the maintainer (or someone else) wants to discuss it with you
> 3)  some person or bot finds your address on the but report page
> and decides to send you a message

The mail load from reporting Debian bugs is really quite light, I find.

> You will not get flooded with unrequested email simply by reporting a
> bug.  If you really want to you can use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as
> your return address, but if you do don't complain about not getting
> any updates.

... and don't complain if the maintainer closes the bug out of hand
because he/she needs to get more information from you and has no way to
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Re: IBM PS/2

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 18:38, Paladin wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:40:59 +0100
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> I always thought that this was the correct way of threading! Does
> this have anything to do with the fact that every time that I reply
> to some message in the mailing list I have to do a reply-all and
> delete every address but debian-user@lists.debian.org ??
> I would thank any correction on this so that I can bug report it to
> the mailing list of my MUA. Or this is a exim error!?

You use Sylpheed?  Try "Reply to Sender".

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Re: dd boot floppy to cd image

[Brian Dessent]

"Henning, Brian" wrote:

> I have a grub boot floopy that has no file system. It just boots into grub.
> I want to be able to put this floppy boot section onto a cd image to burn to
> a cd. I don't really care if the cd image has a file system or not. I just
> want it to boot grub. I am pretty sure I need to use dd to pull write the cd
> image. Can anyone give me a functional overview of what i need to do to make
> this work?

Well, I haven't tried this but it should work.  Assume you have mkisofs
and cdrecord already, and assume you have a floppy image called
'boot.img'.  If you have the floppy but no image, run 'dd if=/dev/fd0
of=boot.img bs=10k count=144' assuming it's a 1.44 floppy.  Put this
boot.img in an otherwise empty directory, and from that directory run

mkisofs -b boot.img -c boot.catalog . | cdrecord -v .

mkisofs will generate the boot.catalog file for you.  Add '-dummy' to
cdrecord if you want a test run first.  If cdrecord doesn't know about
your cdr then you'll need to add 'dev=x,y,z' and possibly 'speed=n'.  If
you just want to create the .iso file then you can use '-o boot.iso'
with mkisofs instead of piping it to cdrecord.  The '.' at the end of
mkisofs is still required though.

There's a file 'README.eltorrito' in /usr/share/doc/mkisofs that
explains how to do boot CDs.

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Re: IBM PS/2

[Paladin]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:40:59 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert
> attributions, and it keeps starting new threads which I have to
> manually link together in mutt if I want to follow the
> conversation ...

In the header of the message I wrote:
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In the message from Pedersen, that was able to follow the thread:
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I always thought that this was the correct way of threading! Does
this have anything to do with the fact that every time that I reply
to some message in the mailing list I have to do a reply-all and
delete every address but debian-user@lists.debian.org ??
I would thank any correction on this so that I can bug report it to
the mailing list of my MUA. Or this is a exim error!?

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Re: Mandrake to Debian migration guide?

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 17:17, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Anybody written a Mandrake to Debian migration guide?  It's been half
> a month and I'm only 1/2 way thru migrating from Mandrake 7.2 to
> woody.  Perhaps due to encrusting myself with scripts that have this
> file moved or that service closed on debian and need rewriting.

What are the issues?  It took me 2 nights to go from mdk8.0 
to Woody.  Of course, I bought a new disk for woody, and made
the old mandrake disk the new secondary disk.

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Re: if I post here I will get spammed of course?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 05:30:43AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
| I'm scared s*itless about wafting about my real e-mail address on my
| posts here, as I've already seen account after account of mine get
| buried in spam and now all's I got left is my real ISP address-- all
| from posting to "little known mailing lists".

Oh, sure, put your email on a web page and a robot will find it sooner
or later.  No big deal.  (see below)
 
| Anyways I tremble in my boots each time one of you CCs to my real
| address, can't you Bcc me?

No.  I don't want to.  If you want a duplicate copy, include your
(real) address in the Mail-Followup-To: header.  :-).  (mutt is great,
and so is gnus; they both have list-reply functions)
 
| You see I'm 31K modem brief connect to ISP POP box.  I read this group
| on google.  Sure I've got procmail etc. turned on.  But that's only
| for after one downloads the box contents.  One need IMAP to scan the
| headers before download.  Anyway, believe me, 20-30 mails a day and my
| slow POP box is over with.

Do you want an account on my box?  I've got spamassassin (and some
other sanity checks) setup with exim.  Most trash gets rejected before
I even see it.  I can even setup a filter to put any SA-flagged (and
whatever else you want) mail into a "junk" folder that you can inspect
at your leisure.

Take a look at http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/software/exim/ for details
on what I've done.  This is why I really don't care that my email
address is all over the d-u and other archives.  It does help that I'm
not on a dial-up link anymore, but with "free" local calls it wasn't
that big of a problem for me then either.

Another tool suited for people like you is popsneaker, or something
like that.  It is a filter that reads the headers from your POP server
and DELEtes the message if it doesn't like it.  It saves you from
downloading the whole darn thing.  (I bet you could make it filter d-u
too, like I've done, to eliminate topics you aren't interested in.
That is, if you were subscribed to the list.)

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Missing ldd

[Brian Dessent]

Hi.  I searched the archives about this and found a thread or two that
was relevant, but they were more than 3 years old.  At that time, the
issue was caused by moving ldd from ldso to libc6.

I have a woody system that I recently installed fresh.  I have libc6
2.2.5-6.  I don't have ldd, which is supposedly part of this package. 
What's the deal?  Should I force a reinstall of this package?  If so,
what's the best way?  I'm a bit hesitant to poke around with a critial
package.

Thanks,
Brian


trixie:~# dpkg --audit
trixie:~# dpkg -l libc6 ldso
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  libc6  2.2.5-6GNU C Library: Shared libraries and
Timezone
ii  ldso   1.9.11-15  The Linux dynamic linker and library
for lib
trixie:~# dpkg -L libc6 | grep ldd
/usr/bin/lddlibc4
trixie:~# dpkg -S ldd
scrollkeeper: /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-rebuilddb
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/man1/dpkg-checkbuilddeps.1.gz
libc6: /usr/bin/lddlibc4
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/ja/man1/dpkg-checkbuilddeps.1.gz
dpkg-dev: /usr/bin/dpkg-checkbuilddeps
scrollkeeper: /usr/share/man/man8/scrollkeeper-rebuilddb.8.gz
trixie:~# which ldd
trixie:~# locate ldd
/usr/bin/dpkg-checkbuilddeps
/usr/bin/lddlibc4
/usr/bin/scrollkeeper-rebuilddb
/usr/share/man/ja/man1/dpkg-checkbuilddeps.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/dpkg-checkbuilddeps.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/scrollkeeper-rebuilddb.8.gz


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Re: if I report debian bugs will I get emailed for life?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 05:20:39AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
| Sure I've got a lot of bugs I could report, however I recall when I
| reported a perl bug once to the perlbug people.  It was like I had
| adopted a child when alls I wanted was a one night stand: I found a
| workaround. I am was just reporting the bug for the public good and
| wished to move on.  There's a pothole back there, thought you would
| like to know.  I've got to go.
| 
| So, before I explore the debian bug reporting system, is there a mode
| for folks like me?  I had to get the perlbug administrator to turn off
| the mail.

You will get email in the following circumstances :
1)  the maintainer acknowledges or closes the bug
(if you reported it, don't you want to know it's been fixed?)
2)  the maintainer (or someone else) wants to discuss it with you
3)  some person or bot finds your address on the but report page
and decides to send you a message

You will not get flooded with unrequested email simply by reporting a
bug.  If you really want to you can use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as
your return address, but if you do don't complain about not getting
any updates.

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Re: apple powerbook lombard

[Christian Jaeger]

At 17:53 Uhr -0500 14.06.2002, Kevin C. Smith wrote:

Anyone have a working XF86config-4 they are willing to share?


See mine on http://pflanze.mine.nu/~chris/ppc/X/ (for the same machine, woody).

Christian.


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Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 04:34:29AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
 
| By the way, of the other experiments:
| insmod: apm: no module by that name found
| I sure don't understand linux modules.  It cannot be found, but one
| can turn it on at the boot prompt.

In the pre-packaged 2.2 kernels it is built-in instead of a module.
In the pre-paackaged 2.4 kernels it is a module and you'll need to
load it with an entry in /etc/modules.

| By the way, to read Chinese file names from vfat disks, on mandrake
| one can see lsmod:
| nls_cp950  98064   2  (autoclean)
| nls_cp437   3952   2  (autoclean)
| whereas on debian I search low and high for anything with "950" in its
| name... no go.

I don't have a 2.2 kernel anymore, but looking in the 2.4 config :

$ grep 950 /boot/config-2.4.18-386
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_950=m

it is included as a module.

$ locate 950 | grep ^/lib/modules
/lib/modules/2.4.18-386/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp950.o

At least with the pre-packaged 2.4 kernel you can simply
'modprobe nls_cp950'.


2.2 is soo last-year.  2.4 is this-year.  ;-)

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Re: if I post here I will get spammed of course?

[Robert Ian Smit]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 05:30:43AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> I'm scared s*itless about wafting about my real e-mail address on my
> posts here, as I've already seen account after account of mine get
> buried in spam and now all's I got left is my real ISP address-- all
> from posting to "little known mailing lists".
> 
> Anyways I tremble in my boots each time one of you CCs to my real
> address, can't you Bcc me?
> 
> You see I'm 31K modem brief connect to ISP POP box.  I read this group
> on google.  Sure I've got procmail etc. turned on.  But that's only
> for after one downloads the box contents.  One need IMAP to scan the
> headers before download.  Anyway, believe me, 20-30 mails a day and my
> slow POP box is over with.
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> http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780

So don't reveal your e-mail address. We can always give you a ring
if we need to speak to you privately ;)

Bob


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Re: devfs + grub [was Re: RAM upgrade]

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 06:45:43AM +0800, csj wrote:
| On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:36:25 -0500
| "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| 
| >  I've been using devfs for months.  I really like it.  It makes it much
| >  easier to identify problems with "missing" devices.  (I can't read my
| >  cd, but /dev/cdrom is there.  It doesn't matter if the inode is on
| >  disk.)
| 
| As a side question, does devfs play nice with grub

Yep.  It plays just as nice as it does with lilo.  

| (seeing that devfs has the habit of "renaming" devices)?

The "renaming" is just a matter of convention anyways, really.  (don't
believe me?  create an inode called "my_computer" with major/minor
numbers 3,1 and see if you can't use that in place of hda1)  

devfsd is neat, too, because (with the default configuration) it
automatically creates "compatibility" symlinks that have the old name
to point to the new name of the device.  Of course, it won't create
/dev/cdrom if you don't really have a cdrom device.  Eg on my system,
/dev/cdrom looks like :

lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   13 Jun  4 19:13 /dev/cdrom -> 
cdroms/cdrom0


The only odd thing I've noticed is the root= parameter to the kernel.
That must be the old name.  I have no idea why, but trying the devfs
name fails.

Here's my grub stanza for booting the pre-packaged kernel :


title   Debian GNU/Linux (2.4.18-k7 , 1280x1024x16)
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7 root=/dev/hda1 read-only devfs=mount 
video=vesa vga=0x31A
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-k7


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apple powerbook lombard

[Kevin C. Smith]

I'm trying to help a friend install debian on a 
apple powerbook "lombard" "bronze keyboard"

X fails to start correctly. It becomes a runaway process taking over
99.8% of the cpu and never lets up. 

Anyone have a working XF86config-4 they are willing to share?

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devfs + grub [was Re: RAM upgrade]

[csj]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:36:25 -0500
"Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I've been using devfs for months.  I really like it.  It makes it much
>  easier to identify problems with "missing" devices.  (I can't read my
>  cd, but /dev/cdrom is there.  It doesn't matter if the inode is on
>  disk.)

As a side question, does devfs play nice with grub (seeing that devfs
has the habit of "renaming" devices)?


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Re: Minimizing all windows

[Ian D. Stewart]

On 2002.06.14 17:14 Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 12:08:13PM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> Howdy Folks,
>
> In windows, you can right click on the task bar and one of the
options
> is to minimize all windows, exposing the underlying desktop.  I've
> looked through both the gnome-list archive and the Gnome User's
Guide
> but was unable to find any reference to similiar functionality.
>
> Is this possible, either within the context of Gnome, Sawfish window

> manager or XFree86?  Are there other window managers that support
both
> Gnome and this 'minimize all windows' functionality?

Why not just switch to a blank desktop? (or create a new one?)


Sorry, this was answered on gnome-list.  The answer was to bind a key 
to iconify-workspace-windows.



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Re: Debian em um hd nt em outro

[Francisco M Neto]

» Assim falou Angelo Marcos Rigo em Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 05:24:10PM -0300:

> Na inicialização o debian mostra o nt 
> mas nao entra nele se o seleciono, tentei de varias maneiras
>  (nt master debian slave, o nt so mostra o nt, Debian master, nt slave o
> lilo mostra o nt mas so entra no Debian)
> estou editando pelo /etc/lilo.conf. 
> 
> Estou usando o woody. Alguem ja passou por isso ou tem uma dica?

Eu uso o Woody e uso o seguinte no lilo.conf:

other=/dev/hda1 # minha particao do w2k
table=/dev/hda
label=windows

Coloco essas tres linhas no lilo.conf e rodo /sbin/lilo. Funciona 
direitinho.

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Mandrake to Debian migration guide?

[Dan Jacobson]

Anybody written a Mandrake to Debian migration guide?  It's been half
a month and I'm only 1/2 way thru migrating from Mandrake 7.2 to
woody.  Perhaps due to encrusting myself with scripts that have this
file moved or that service closed on debian and need rewriting.
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if I post here I will get spammed of course?

[Dan Jacobson]

I'm scared s*itless about wafting about my real e-mail address on my
posts here, as I've already seen account after account of mine get
buried in spam and now all's I got left is my real ISP address-- all
from posting to "little known mailing lists".

Anyways I tremble in my boots each time one of you CCs to my real
address, can't you Bcc me?

You see I'm 31K modem brief connect to ISP POP box.  I read this group
on google.  Sure I've got procmail etc. turned on.  But that's only
for after one downloads the box contents.  One need IMAP to scan the
headers before download.  Anyway, believe me, 20-30 mails a day and my
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if I report debian bugs will I get emailed for life?

[Dan Jacobson]

Sure I've got a lot of bugs I could report, however I recall when I
reported a perl bug once to the perlbug people.  It was like I had
adopted a child when alls I wanted was a one night stand: I found a
workaround. I am was just reporting the bug for the public good and
wished to move on.  There's a pothole back there, thought you would
like to know.  I've got to go.

So, before I explore the debian bug reporting system, is there a mode
for folks like me?  I had to get the perlbug administrator to turn off
the mail.
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Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?

[Dan Jacobson]

> "C" == Chris Kenrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

C> On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 08:12:35AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
>> poweroff just does the same as "shutdown -h now" for me: turns off the
>> disks only.  On mandrake 7.2 however, "shutdown -h now" does indeed
>> turn off the whole computer, cold, quiet.  So what have I not
>> adjusted?

C> You need to turn on APM support in the kernel.  Presuming you are using
C> LILO as your bootloader, adding

C> append = "apm = on"

C> to /etc/lilo.conf should do the trick.
append = " apm=on"
indeed seems to work, at least at a boot prompt trial [I don't tire
the disks by testing more than once a day]

Anyways, why then do I still see 
Jun 14 09:10:51 debian kernel: apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 
1.13)
Jun 14 09:10:51 debian kernel: apm: disabled on user request.
in the logs.  Where is it getting turned off?  Why isn't me turning it
back on mentioned?

By the way, of the other experiments:
insmod: apm: no module by that name found
I sure don't understand linux modules.  It cannot be found, but one
can turn it on at the boot prompt.

So I even did installed powermgmt-base, because I think there were
some "apm" words in there... zanier and zanier... coocoo

By the way, to read Chinese file names from vfat disks, on mandrake
one can see lsmod:
nls_cp950  98064   2  (autoclean)
nls_cp437   3952   2  (autoclean)
whereas on debian I search low and high for anything with "950" in its
name... no go.  Is this another item for lilo append?  Only then can I
use them as fstab options?
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My LVM does not work at all

[Juhapekka Tolvanen]

Read the whole story here:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=150005&repeatmerged=yes

I do not subscribe to these mailing-lists, so please Cc: to me. If you
want to send replies also to mailing-lists, use only debian-user,
please.


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Re: /etc/printcap with CUPS & Openoffice 1.0

[Kent West]

nate wrote:

hi.

this is getting frustrating. I recently setup CUPS on my desktop
to spool to a Jetdirect card connected to a HP Laserjet 4000.


What I did was to install qtcups and tell the various apps to print to 
qtcups instead of lpr, etc. You might give it a spin.


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/etc/printcap with CUPS & Openoffice 1.0

[nate]

hi.

this is getting frustrating. I recently setup CUPS on my desktop
to spool to a Jetdirect card connected to a HP Laserjet 4000.

I can print fine if i use lpr, or if i use netscape(4.x) which
calls lpr, or adobe acrobat reader which calls lpr too. everything
comes out fine.  I can print select(!) documents from open/star office.
specifically i have printed 2 documents, and they seem to print
reliably, i have printed each several times.

the rest of the documents go into a black hole. cups records
them being queued and claim they were accepted by the printer,
but monitoring the 'remote printer panel' from jetdirect admin tool
shows no data being recieved for most of the jobs(and nothing
comes out for them).

I have tried various different settings in staroffice 6.0 and
openoffice 1.0 and staroffice 5.2. I don't know why i can print
some documents(both are word docs), but not others. specifically
i mostly use star/open office to make generic address labels(printed
to normal US Letter paper, not to actual address label sticker things.
so the documents are not complex, just a few lines of text in a large
font(for boxes). i tried saving my documents into word format and
printing and nothing changed.

at the moment i have worked around it by printing to a file and
using ps2pdf to convert to pdf and printing from adobe acrobat.

I used to be able to print fine from staroffice 5.2, then i installed
6.0 and could not print anymore using my existing system, which
was spool to lpd locally, then spool to remote lpd, and it would
then spool through a NT server to the printer. thats when i
switched to cups.

i changed cups' config so it outputs the printcap file to /etc/printcap,
but that doesn't seem to have helped. the only thing it prints
out is the name of the printer and a colon. i'm really lost.


cups printer config:

Info Laserjet 4000
Location Hallway
DeviceURI lpd://pebbles.linuxpowered.net/lpd
State Idle
Accepting Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0


it is using the driver "HP LaserJet 4000, Foomatic + Postscript"

I can print CUPS test pages all day long, no problem. so the problem
appears to be in openoffice 1.0 / staroffice 5.2 / staroffice 6.0
or in my /etc/printcap, maybe the format for it is wrong.

also i have lpd listening on my system through xinetd:

service printer
{
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= lp
server  = /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd
}

i can print from gnotepad+, but it too just calls lpr, maybe
star/open office do too ? i'm not sure what other apps i could
test that would behave like this. i can print from mozilla 1.0rc3
too, which does not specifically mention using lpr in the print
setup, but i suppose it could be too.

running debian woody

thanks

nate




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Re: Minimizing all windows

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 12:08:13PM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> Howdy Folks,
> 
> In windows, you can right click on the task bar and one of the options 
> is to minimize all windows, exposing the underlying desktop.  I've 
> looked through both the gnome-list archive and the Gnome User's Guide 
> but was unable to find any reference to similiar functionality.
> 
> Is this possible, either within the context of Gnome, Sawfish window 
> manager or XFree86?  Are there other window managers that support both 
> Gnome and this 'minimize all windows' functionality?

Why not just switch to a blank desktop? (or create a new one?)

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Re: chaging compiler

[ian]

Thanx Collin... yes i did miss your response. Thanx again for the update.
ian

At 02:10 AM 6/14/02, you wrote:

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 09:20:53PM -0700, ian wrote:

> >i would like to know how to change my default gcc compiler from the
> >current version to another.

Perhaps you didn't see my response to the last time you asked this.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0206/msg02178.html

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Kupdated

[Tinus Kotzé]

Can somebody help me with the kupdate daemon' problem. I looked around
but could not find a understandable page that could help me. The
kupdated process takes about 1/3 of my cpu and can't be killed. 

I started with a potato installation from where I apt-get dist-upgrade'd
to unstable. Then the nvidia drivers came in the story and a had to
recompile the kernel. Know I have this minor! problem with a
very nice Debian system running on a 300 rather than a 700 cpu.


Can somebody please help me. 
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Re: "ps" and caculate start_time

[ian]

I like sometimes prefer 'tops' rather than 'ps'

At 04:26 AM 6/14/02, you wrote:

Hello list,

I'd like to show the process list and try to list those who has be
running over customized time. Is it possible? Say, I'd like to list the
cron programs which has been running for 3 days.


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GLIBC error

[ian]

hi all,
i upgraded to XFree86 4.1 and now when i try to run emacs, vi, etc. i keep 
getting this error:


/lib/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.2' not found required by 
/user/X11R6/libX11.so.6


did i overwrite a library file or does my C library needs updating?
thanx
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Re: Sony SDT-7000 Tape Drive & DDS2 Tapes?

[j2]

> I have a Sony SDT-7000 tape drive that can, theoretically, record up to
> 8 Gb of data on a DDS2 tape.  However, I can only get it to store 4 Gb
> on any DDS2 tape I try (4 Gb == max for DDS1, iirc).

No, a SDT-7000 is a DDS2 drive. they hold 4GB of _uncompressed_ data. If
compress the data and assume a 2:1 ratio, it holds 8GB.

DDS1: 1GB
DDS2: 4GB
DDS3: 12GB
DDS4: 24GB

(above is all _physical_ data capacity)



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Re: Foreign Language with OpenOffice?

[Jorge Santos]

Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >
> > I appreciate your response. Could any one give me any guidance as to
> > how this is done? Do I use the standard OpenOffice (English version)
> > that I already have and just do something with locales or with kbd or
> > something? Or do I download a special German version of OO? If the
> > latter, does that mean the faculty will have to keep three or four
> > instances of OO running at any one time? One for English, one for
> > German, one for French, etc? Sorry I'm so ignorant of working with
> > different languages.
> 
> Kent did you get any response to this?  I have been wrestling with a
> similar problem for my wife's benefit - she's Hungarian.  
> 
> 1. Make sure you have the necessary fonts installed.
> 2. Install OPenOffice
> 3. Change to the French/German keyboard map
> 
> setxkbmap fr   
> 
> Y0u should be able to type in French now, and print too.
> 
> At least that's how it worked here - much easier than I had feared!
> There is a "setting up an international keyboard" HOWTO which was most
> helpful!
> 

Ok, this is nice but what about the user interface, I've seen that the
are several languages for OpenOffice.org Debian packages, so that may
be a solution if it fits your environment (i.e. if you are running
unstable (I think it also runs on testing with few extra packages from
unstable), however I haven't tried them and I don't know about if you
can configure the language for each individual user.  Does anyone
know about this?

Greetings,

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Re: OT: Perrun virus: Is this Windoze only?

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Alan Shutko  quotation:

> Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Today's Sacramento Bee contains a news report about a new virus,
> > called Perrun, that infects JPEG files. (Yes, data files) 
> 
> Those "infected" jpegs are completely harmless unless you already have
> been infected by the real virus.

Which rather begs the question of what the point is of "infecting" the
JPEG files at all. This whole thing is just more of McAfee's usual
dishonest hype for their anti-virus software.

Craig


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Re: Server X process taking 250 Mo - leaking ?

[Ian D. Stewart]

On 2002.06.13 12:34 Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 11:14:48AM +0200, Jerome Lacoste wrote:
| I have the following in top:
|
|   PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME
COMMAND
|   532 root  16 -10  289M  32M  7528 S <  54.6  6.5   8:35
XFree86
|
| I think there is a problem there. XFree86 takes way too much space
and
| CPU. Have anybody encountered the same problem?

The SIZE column is useless.  I forget the details why, but it often
confuses the "uniniated".  The RSS is the how much heap the process
really has.  The %MEM shows how much of your real memory (not swap)
the process is using.



Can anybody else shed some light on the difference between SIZE and RSS?


Thanx,
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Re: Running something on start up and shutdown

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 14:13, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ross Boylan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >By the way, I'm not sure what the success thing was in the stop case
> >below; I got errors when I tested it and removed it from my script.
> 
> That's because the example was actually a redhat example.

Well, Mandrake, but that's just a quibble...

I took that script from my Mandrake box when I changed
to Debian, and was released from the bonds of RPM Hell...

> A standard init.d template can be found in /etc/init.d/skeleton
> You can use the "--chuid" option to start-stop-daemon to start
> something under a different uid - read the manpage.

Thanks for the tip.

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Re: OT: Perrun virus: Is this Windoze only?

[Alan Shutko]

Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Today's Sacramento Bee contains a news report about a new virus,
> called Perrun, that infects JPEG files. (Yes, data files) 

Those "infected" jpegs are completely harmless unless you already have
been infected by the real virus.

> and is it a problem for Debian GNU/Linux?

No.

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Re: Running something on start up and shutdown

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ross Boylan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>By the way, I'm not sure what the success thing was in the stop case
>below; I got errors when I tested it and removed it from my script.

That's because the example was actually a redhat example.

A standard init.d template can be found in /etc/init.d/skeleton
You can use the "--chuid" option to start-stop-daemon to start
something under a different uid - read the manpage.

Mike.


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Re: OT: Perrun virus: Is this Windoze only?

[Alex Malinovich]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 14:03, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Today's Sacramento Bee contains a news report about a new virus, called 
> Perrun,
> that infects JPEG files. (Yes, data files) Does anyone on this list know what
> this is? and is it a problem for Debian GNU/Linux?
> 

There's a good slashdot article about this:

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/14/1343223

-Alex


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OT: Perrun virus: Is this Windoze only?

[Paul E Condon]

Today's Sacramento Bee contains a news report about a new virus, called Perrun,
that infects JPEG files. (Yes, data files) Does anyone on this list know what
this is? and is it a problem for Debian GNU/Linux?


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Re: Size of debian?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 01:16:02PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> My unstable mirror for i386 is currently ~5 GB. I've got a Perl script
> that I wrote that scans through the Packages.gz for the different
> distributions and just adds up all of the file sizes. The format of
> Packages.gz is straightforward enough, so writing it isn't really much
> of a problem.

You can use the tools in the grep-dctrl package, if you like. This
one-liner sums the sizes of all the packages in your local available
file; if you want to work on a local Packages file, use 'grep-dctrl
-nsSize -r . Packages' or 'zcat Packages.gz | grep-dctrl -nsSize -r .'
instead.

  grep-available -nsSize -r . | perl -le '$t += $_ while <>; print $t;'

On woody/i386, this currently prints 4448543468, although I have a
couple of extra packages installed which may skew it slightly.

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Re: Size of debian?

[Alex Malinovich]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 11:36, Jamin W.Collins wrote:
> First, please don't reply to an existing thread to start a new one.
> 
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:52:56 -0400 (EDT)
> "Rob Ransbottom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > How do I determine space required mirror the source and
> > binary-i386 aspects of stable, unstable and testing?
> 
> I mirror the above for both i386 and PPC archs and my mirror is ~20 gig. 
> In the relatively recent past, I've created sub mirrors of just the i386
> testing branch to take with me for installations at different locations
> and, IIRC, these were ~9 Gigs.

My unstable mirror for i386 is currently ~5 GB. I've got a Perl script
that I wrote that scans through the Packages.gz for the different
distributions and just adds up all of the file sizes. The format of
Packages.gz is straightforward enough, so writing it isn't really much
of a problem.

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RE: zope

[O Senhor]

  Thanks,
  Exists one script zopectl (in /usr/sbin).

  Thanks again.


  
On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 12:00, Jan Johansson wrote:
> >   How can i start and stop the zope server? In SuSE and FreeBSD there
> > are the start and stop script, and in Debian/GNU Linux? I have stopped
> > with kill, and can't restart
> 
> /etc/init.d/zope restart (or stop, or start or...)
> 
> 
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Re: GDM config

[Helgi Örn Helgason]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 19:19, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
> 
> create file in /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/blackbox
> 
> "exec blackbox"
> 
> save and mark as executable.
> 
> Restart gdm - that should do it.
Thank's this worked very well...:-)

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Re: ACPI

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, I wrote:

> I'm sure I've missed something obvious and will feel really dumb when it's
> pointed out to me!

Doh!  Glad I found it before anyone asked :)  I'd compiled ACPI support
but not all the 'bits' that make it actually do anything!!  Now when I
boot, a 'dmesg | grep ACPI' shows

ACPI: Core Subsystem version [20011018]
ACPI: Subsystem enabled
ACPI: System firmware supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5
ACPI: Battery socket found, battery present
ACPI: AC Adapter found
ACPI: Power Button (FF) found
ACPI: Lid Switch (CM) found
ACPI: Thermal Zone found

and all the /proc/acpi stuff is there.

Now to see how it all works.  Sorry to have wasted anyone's time with my
own stupidity!

Patrick

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Re: GDM config

[Matthias Ellinger]

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>On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 18:33, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
>> If your users want to use blackbox, all they need to do is run the
>> Control Center (gnomecc) and choose it in the window manager section.
>> (if it isn't already listed, add it)
>> 
>The point is to be able to start Blackbox as desktop not as a window 
>manager inside Gnome, therefore it is needed in the login menu.

create file in /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/blackbox

"exec blackbox"

save and mark as executable.

Restart gdm - that should do it.
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Re: GDM config

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 07:13:07PM +0200, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote:
| On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 18:33, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
| > If your users want to use blackbox, all they need to do is run the
| > Control Center (gnomecc) and choose it in the window manager section.
| > (if it isn't already listed, add it)
|
| The point is to be able to start Blackbox as desktop not as a window 
| manager inside Gnome, therefore it is needed in the login menu.

Oh, I see.  One way to do that would be to use the "xsession" session
(whatever one will use ~/.xsession) and put
exec blackbox
instead of
exec gnome-session
in that file.

HTH,
-D

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Benedikt Wildenhain]

Hello,

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 11:48:08AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Over a local, switched fast ethernet connection, what kind of
> performance drain will I see tunneling through ssh?  Both boxen
> are GHz+.
I only have an 650 MHz, so I cannot say how it will work on your system.
Most programs can be used without any seeable delay, but there are speed
problems with videos and some games (100 MBit). On a wireless lan with
eleven megabit, it takes some time to start programs, but then they are
usable without much problems.

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Re: GDM config

[Helgi Örn Helgason]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 18:33, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> If your users want to use blackbox, all they need to do is run the
> Control Center (gnomecc) and choose it in the window manager section.
> (if it isn't already listed, add it)
> 
The point is to be able to start Blackbox as desktop not as a window 
manager inside Gnome, therefore it is needed in the login menu.

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 11:15, Jamin W.Collins wrote:
> On 14 Jun 2002 11:11:58 -0500
> "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Ok...  From an xterm window on my local box, I do 
> >   $ssh -X @
> > 
> > Then from the command prompt on the remote box, I type
> >   $mtr -g www.cox.net
> > and instantly get the error
> >   Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
> > 
> > Explicitly setting $DISPLAY on the remote host causes the
> > same error, but it just takes a few seconds of cogitation, first.
> > 
> > Any ideas? 
> 
> Check for the follwing lines in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config:
> 
> X11Forwarding yes
> X11DisplayOffset 10

That did it.  Thanks...

Over a local, switched fast ethernet connection, what kind of
performance drain will I see tunneling through ssh?  Both boxen
are GHz+.

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Re: Size of debian?

[Jamin W . Collins]

First, please don't reply to an existing thread to start a new one.

On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:52:56 -0400 (EDT)
"Rob Ransbottom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do I determine space required mirror the source and
> binary-i386 aspects of stable, unstable and testing?

I mirror the above for both i386 and PPC archs and my mirror is ~20 gig. 
In the relatively recent past, I've created sub mirrors of just the i386
testing branch to take with me for installations at different locations
and, IIRC, these were ~9 Gigs.

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Size of debian?

[Rob Ransbottom]

How do I determine space required mirror the source and
binary-i386 aspects of stable, unstable and testing?

rob Live the dream.


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Re: Minimizing all windows

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:

> In windows, you can right click on the task bar and one of the options 
> is to minimize all windows, exposing the underlying desktop.

XFce has an "Iconify All" option when you right-click on the desktop - of
course, that presumes that some desktop is exposed!

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Re: Minimizing all windows

[Dave Bordoley]

In metacity you can use ctl+alt+d to minimize all. This should also be
included in the gnome actions menu eventually I would hope.

dave

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 12:08, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> Howdy Folks,
> 
> In windows, you can right click on the task bar and one of the options 
> is to minimize all windows, exposing the underlying desktop.  I've 
> looked through both the gnome-list archive and the Gnome User's Guide 
> but was unable to find any reference to similiar functionality.
> 
> Is this possible, either within the context of Gnome, Sawfish window 
> manager or XFree86?  Are there other window managers that support both 
> Gnome and this 'minimize all windows' functionality?
> 
> 
> Thanx,
> Ian
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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 11:11, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 10:32, David Z Maze wrote:
> > Matthew Yee-King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> > Eew eew eew.  Don't do that.  Debian disables unencrypted X network
> > sessions.  But since you're using ssh to log in from one machine to
> > the other (right?) this is easy: just add -X to the ssh command-line
> > arguments to get X forwarding over ssh, and the DISPLAY environment
> > variable will be automagically set to the right thing on the remote
> > machine.
> 
> Ok...  From an xterm window on my local box, I do 
>   $ssh -X @
> 
> Then from the command prompt on the remote box, I type
>   $mtr -g www.cox.net
> and instantly get the error
>   Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
> 
> Explicitly setting $DISPLAY on the remote host causes the
> same error, but it just takes a few seconds of cogitation, first.
> 
> Any ideas?  Colin Watson says to remove '-nolisten tcp' from
> the script that starts the local X.  I'm going to try that now.

Progress!!  After removing '-nolisten tcp' from /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
this is the error:

  $ mtr -g www.cox.net
  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
  Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
  
  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0

  $ xhost rebel
  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
  Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
  xhost:  unable to open display ":0"

In :/etc/ssh/sshd_config, there is the directive
  X11Forwarding no

Is this overriding my use of "ssh -X"?

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Re: mozilla and galeon eat RAM

[Joris]

> got a little problem with mozilla 1.0.0 and galeon 1.2.5 - i think.
> Things started going real slow today and i checked with top and gtop to
> see whats going on there.
> That shows for galeon and mozilla 5 running processes each eating up 18
> megs of RAM each.
> Can that be ok?
> I updated galeon today and must admit that i never looked at it before.

galeon/mozilla (and lots of other apps) share one memory chunk among
their instances and child processes. In reality, it uses only 18 meg ram
in total, not per instance.


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Minimizing all windows

[Ian D. Stewart]

Howdy Folks,

In windows, you can right click on the task bar and one of the options 
is to minimize all windows, exposing the underlying desktop.  I've 
looked through both the gnome-list archive and the Gnome User's Guide 
but was unable to find any reference to similiar functionality.


Is this possible, either within the context of Gnome, Sawfish window 
manager or XFree86?  Are there other window managers that support both 
Gnome and this 'minimize all windows' functionality?



Thanx,
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Re: GDM config

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 02:29:18PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote:
| Hello all!
| 
| I installed Blackbox and I want to put it Logi sessions menu but I'm not
| sure how to do that, can someone exolain that for me. I know this:
| gdmconfig -> Expert -> Login sessions -> Add session
| But what should I put into the script window?

I really don't understand what those sessions are for, or how they are
different (I have skimmed the scripts, and I still don't know).

If your users want to use blackbox, all they need to do is run the
Control Center (gnomecc) and choose it in the window manager section.
(if it isn't already listed, add it)

HTH,
-D

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Jamin W . Collins]

On 14 Jun 2002 11:11:58 -0500
"Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok...  From an xterm window on my local box, I do 
>   $ssh -X @
> 
> Then from the command prompt on the remote box, I type
>   $mtr -g www.cox.net
> and instantly get the error
>   Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
> 
> Explicitly setting $DISPLAY on the remote host causes the
> same error, but it just takes a few seconds of cogitation, first.
> 
> Any ideas? 

Check for the follwing lines in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config:

X11Forwarding yes
X11DisplayOffset 10

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Re: Foreign Language with OpenOffice?

[Glyn Millington]

Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>
> I appreciate your response. Could any one give me any guidance as to
> how this is done? Do I use the standard OpenOffice (English version)
> that I already have and just do something with locales or with kbd or
> something? Or do I download a special German version of OO? If the
> latter, does that mean the faculty will have to keep three or four
> instances of OO running at any one time? One for English, one for
> German, one for French, etc? Sorry I'm so ignorant of working with
> different languages.

Kent did you get any response to this?  I have been wrestling with a
similar problem for my wife's benefit - she's Hungarian.  

1. Make sure you have the necessary fonts installed.
2. Install OPenOffice
3. Change to the French/German keyboard map

setxkbmap fr   

Y0u should be able to type in French now, and print too.

At least that's how it worked here - much easier than I had feared!
There is a "setting up an international keyboard" HOWTO which was most
helpful!

hth


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Re: ACPI

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 09:04:37AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:

| apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x02 (Driver version 1.16)
| ACPI: APM is already active, exiting
| 
| So, I disabled APM (by appending "apm=off" in lilo.conf), and, on
| rebooting, got this:

Good so far.

| apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x02 (Driver version 1.16)
| apm: disabled on user request.
| ACPI: Core Subsystem version [20011018]
| ACPI: Subsystem enabled

Looks good.  (well, I don't know about the date)

| but acpid doesn't start on boot, and when I try to start it
| manually, it reports:
| 
| acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: No such file or directory
| 
| And, sure enough, that file doesn't exist.

| 'man acpid' just tells me that acpid will open /proc/acpi/event, but it
| doesn't tell me how to create that file.

You don't create files in /proc.  They are created automatically by
the kernel when you try and read them (they don't really exist).

To get those files, you must configure acpi in the kernel correctly.
Now lets see if I can remember how I did that when I experimented with
acpi ...

You need to put lines like these in /etc/modules :

ospm_button
ospm_thermal
ospm_system
ospm_processor

When those modules load, they look for the corresponding support in
the BIOS, and will create the /proc/acpi/* files necessary for
accessing them.

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mozilla and galeon eat RAM

[Klaus Imgrund]

Hello,

got a little problem with mozilla 1.0.0 and galeon 1.2.5 - i think.
Things started going real slow today and i checked with top and gtop to
see whats going on there.
That shows for galeon and mozilla 5 running processes each eating up 18
megs of RAM each.
Can that be ok?
I updated galeon today and must admit that i never looked at it before.

Some more strange behaviour started today,too (KDEapps Segfaulting).
Ideas anybody?


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Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 11:15:31AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 02:59:24PM +1000, James Cameron wrote:
> | The package I have made (which also adds a graphical shutdown image
> | using zgv) does this in the post-installation script ...
> | 
> | # change control/alt/delete sequence to halt rather than reboot
> | sed 's/shutdown -t1 -a -r now/shutdown -t1 -a -h now/' \
> | < /etc/inittab > /etc/inittab.dpkg.lenny-shutdown
> | mv /etc/inittab /etc/inittab.pre-lenny-shutdown
> | mv /etc/inittab.dpkg.lenny-shutdown /etc/inittab
> | telinit q
> | 
> | But I was hoping to find a more elegant solution.  ;-)
> 
> That's how you edit files from the shell :-).  If you try this :
> sed '' < file > file
> you'll end up with either
> 1)  an error from the shell, if 'noclobber' is set
> 2)  a clobbered file, because the open for writing is done before
> the data is read
> 
> Thus a temp file is needed for the redirection to work as intended.

You can get around this using perl's -i switch:

  perl -pi -e 's/shutdown -t1 -a -r now/shutdown -t1 -a -h now/' /etc/inittab
  telinit q

(Or -i.pre-lenny-shutdown if you want to keep a backup as above.)

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 10:32, David Z Maze wrote:
> Matthew Yee-King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm running gdm, windowmaker, woody and xfree 4.2. i need to run
> > software on a remote mahcine that outputs to my local X server. On
> > the remote machine, i export DISPLAY="mylocalIP:0" then on my local
> > machine, i xhost  .
> 
> Eew eew eew.  Don't do that.  Debian disables unencrypted X network
> sessions.  But since you're using ssh to log in from one machine to
> the other (right?) this is easy: just add -X to the ssh command-line
> arguments to get X forwarding over ssh, and the DISPLAY environment
> variable will be automagically set to the right thing on the remote
> machine.

Ok...  From an xterm window on my local box, I do 
  $ssh -X @

Then from the command prompt on the remote box, I type
  $mtr -g www.cox.net
and instantly get the error
  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

Explicitly setting $DISPLAY on the remote host causes the
same error, but it just takes a few seconds of cogitation, first.

Any ideas?  Colin Watson says to remove '-nolisten tcp' from
the script that starts the local X.  I'm going to try that now.

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Re: OT: IBM PS/2

[Emil Pedersen]

Paladin wrote:
> 
> Does any one know how to access the BIOS setup of an old IBM PS/2?
> It seems that hitting "del" while booting doesn't work...

As other have mentioned they don't have a bios, they use sectors on the
disk instead and load the bios/rom at boot.  I've read that some
mainframes use do the same way, but I really don't know that.

Anyway, her's some links I found while trying to get my PS/2-90 to
work.  You might find something usefull (probably depend heavily on your
model):
http://members.tripod.com/~ps2page/

http://www.ncr.com/support/support_drivers_patches.asp?Class=peripherals
http://webpages.charter.net/ohlandl/

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/manager.wss?rs=0&rt=0&org=psg&doc=DDSE-3RNQ5T
http://members.tripod.com/~ps2page/ps2files/drvrdsks.htm
http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/ohland/XGA2.html
http://www.co.umist.ac.uk/~ch/psinfo/psinfo.1.toc.html

Good luck!

// Emil



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Diagnosing serial ports

[Andrew Perrin]

This is a followup to yesterday's attempt to get a CoStar Labelwriter XL
working under linux.

I plugged the thing into a windows laptop and it printed fine, so the
problem is not in the printer.

If I start statserial, point it at /dev/ttyS1, and plug/unplug the printer
from the computer, the CTS/DSR statuses change appropriately.

If I do anything with the pbm2lwxl package to try to print, no errors
occur but nothing comes out of the printer. The easy example is:

small2lwxl < small > /dev/ttyS1

which seems to think it's worked, since there's no error output, but
absolutely nothing happens on the printer.

I'm beginning to wonder if some other process has locked up the serial
port (although fuser -v /dev/ttyS1 shows nothing) or if I'm missing some
module or kernel option.  I know this is speculative, but if anyone's got
an idea I'd be very grateful.

This is woody running custom-built kernel 2.4.18.

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Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 02:59:24PM +1000, James Cameron wrote:
| On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 11:51, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
| > On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 10:39:54AM +1000, James Cameron wrote:
| > | (b) how to make this change to /etc/inittab as a package to be installed
| > | on multiple machines?
| > One character difference.  It doesn't look like inittab is in any
| > package, so I don't know the best way to automatically change it on
| > multiple systems.
| 
| The package I have made (which also adds a graphical shutdown image
| using zgv) does this in the post-installation script ...
| 
| # change control/alt/delete sequence to halt rather than reboot
| sed 's/shutdown -t1 -a -r now/shutdown -t1 -a -h now/' \
| < /etc/inittab > /etc/inittab.dpkg.lenny-shutdown
| mv /etc/inittab /etc/inittab.pre-lenny-shutdown
| mv /etc/inittab.dpkg.lenny-shutdown /etc/inittab
| telinit q
| 
| But I was hoping to find a more elegant solution.  ;-)

That's how you edit files from the shell :-).  If you try this :
sed '' < file > file
you'll end up with either
1)  an error from the shell, if 'noclobber' is set
2)  a clobbered file, because the open for writing is done before
the data is read

Thus a temp file is needed for the redirection to work as intended.

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Re: realplayer window immediately locks up on launching

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 01:32:49PM +0100, Matthew Yee-King wrote:

| I am trying to get realplayer working. I downloaded the installer
| from realnetworks and installed it. when i run it, it opens a
| window, maybe displays a couple of widgets, then locks up. 
| 
| anyone else had this problem?

Yeah, rp does that if it can't grab /dev/dsp (real robust code, is it
not?).  Kill whatever is hogging /dev/dsp (in my case it was esd),
then tell rp not to hog it itself, and then restore the rest of your
sound.

-D

(for the archives, I see you already solved this on your system)

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Re: IBM PS/2

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Jan Johansson wrote:
| > Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert 
| > attributions,
| > and it keeps starting new threads which I have to manually 
| > link together
| > in mutt if I want to follow the conversation ...
| 
| Well, thats what happens when the Mail admin thinks policy-locking
| Outlook to his own preferences is a good idea.

Outhouses aren't pleasant in the first place.  (I think outlook breaks
threading regardless, it seems to be a common to find broken threads
and outlook in the same message)

Do you have cygwin or can you install it on your system?  If so you
can get a real mailer there (eg mutt).  Can you download putty (there
is no "install" procedure for it) and then use a real system?  Just
some thoughts that might make your environment a bit more comfortable
and useful :-).

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Re: DSL connexant PCI card

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 10:33:47AM +0200, David Dumortier wrote:

| I've got a Olitec DSL-modem chipset Connexant under woody, kernel 2.4.18
| and my pinguin box don't want to configure it !!!
| 
| I explain :
| - scanpci & lspci say IRQs, adresses and others but say unknown device

lspci should tell you something about the chip that is on the board.
For example, on my system, my ethernet cards are reported as follows :

$ lspci  # some output snipped
00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX [Linksys 
EtherFast 10/100] (rev 25)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 
model NC100 (rev 11)

With this info, I can now go to google and find out that these
linksys cards need the "tulip" driver.

| - I tried unicorn_pci.o, the module for Bewan DSL PCI modem but doesn't
| want to recognize my hardware ...

I guess *your* card doesn't have a unicorn chip on it.  Use the lspci
output to find out what your card has and what driver it needs.  (you
can even post the lspci output here and see if someone knows.
fortunately my dsl connection uses a Cisco 677 ethernet<->ATM bridge
so I can use whatever ethernet card I feel like)

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Re: I'm looking for permanent work in Toronto

[Pollywog]

On 14 Jun 2002 10:45:23 -0500
"Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> And apparently he's done a good job of it, too...

Oh well I hope he gets an respectable job this time.


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Re: pam_ldap not working right

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 04:07:30PM -0700, David Wright wrote:
| 
| Looking over your files, I see quite a few problems:
| 
| 1) You need to configure nss_ldap.conf as well as pam_ldap.conf.

Umm, I don't have that ... I need to install libnss-ldap ... that
really helps :-).
 
| 2) The lines in nsswitch.conf should really be "files ldap" not "ldap
| files", i.e. local data takes precedence.

You're right.  I think the howtos I read had it reversed (and they
were meant for RH, of course).
 
| 3) You need to tell pam.d/login to use the same password for pam_unix that
| it tried to use for pam_ldap:
|   authsufficient pam_ldap.so
|   authrequired   pam_unix.so nullok try_first_pass

Hmm, ok.  The docs I read didn't mention that.
 
| 4) In pam_ldap.conf, it's best not to bind as anyone.

Right.  When all else fails, it doesn't hurt to try.

| pam_ldap will attempt to bind with the given password and that will
| be the test. You'll need to use
|   pam_password exop
| if you still want to change user passwords with this setup.

Ok, thanks.

After correcting #1, all is well.  Thanks for noticing that!

-D

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Re: I'm looking for permanent work in Toronto

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 10:31, Helgi Örn wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 03:28, Andrey Petrunko wrote:
> > Hello!
> > My name is Andrey Petrunko. I'm computer programmer from Russia. I have
[snip]
> > 
> > Andrey Petrunko
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Well what do you make of this! He's been developing a tool for SPAMMERS:
> 
> 

And apparently he's done a good job of it, too...

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[David Z Maze]

Matthew Yee-King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm running gdm, windowmaker, woody and xfree 4.2. i need to run
> software on a remote mahcine that outputs to my local X server. On
> the remote machine, i export DISPLAY="mylocalIP:0" then on my local
> machine, i xhost  .

Eew eew eew.  Don't do that.  Debian disables unencrypted X network
sessions.  But since you're using ssh to log in from one machine to
the other (right?) this is easy: just add -X to the ssh command-line
arguments to get X forwarding over ssh, and the DISPLAY environment
variable will be automagically set to the right thing on the remote
machine.

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-- Abra Mitchell


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Re: I'm looking for permanent work in Toronto

[Helgi Örn]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 03:28, Andrey Petrunko wrote:
> Hello!
> My name is Andrey Petrunko. I'm computer programmer from Russia. I have
> immigration visa and the air tickets from Russia to Canada. I will be 
> relocated
> from Russia into Toronto July 17. I have very good practice as the computer
> programmer in: Visual C++, Visual FoxPro, MSSQL, ASP, HTML, JavaScript. Please
> read my detailed resume here: http://www.aptechno.net/myresume/ if you or
> your company is interested to give me permanent work in Toronto.
> 
> Also I want to warn you that I cannot speak English and I hope that there
> are employees knowing Russian in your company or you can describe your
> projects in detail, for example in MS WORD. I have not problem to read or 
> write
> English and develop any difficult projects.
> 
> For example, you can review one of projects created by me here:
> http://www.aptechno.net
> 
> Note: I'm not searching for the sponsors. I'm looking for permanent work in
> Toronto after July 17.
> 
> 
> Andrey Petrunko
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well what do you make of this! He's been developing a tool for SPAMMERS:






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Re: HP 2200d (double face) still not working

[Stephen Ryan]

On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 17:44, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
> 
>   Hi,
>   I configured a potato box with cups from potato and hp-ppd from woody. 
> No problem.
>   I only cant find the double side option.
>   Is this because I'm using potato?
>   Can you send me your config files?
>   TIA,Paulo Henrique.

Maybe; I am using woody.  I used the web interface to enable it, but
that doesn't appear to work with the cups in potato.  However, I did
check the configuration with and without the double-sided printing, and
it appears that the only difference in the configuration is a single
line in the PPD, so maybe you can change that and have it work.

In /etc/cups/ppd/your_printer_name_here.ppd, there is a section named
"Duplex", and in there, there is a line which reads "*DefaultDuplex:
None" (in mine, it is line 1254; if you also got yours from hp-ppd from
woody, it is probably be the same).  Change that line to read
"*DefaultDuplex: DuplexNoTumble" and it should then do double-sided
printing.  

The version of cups in woody allows the printers to be configured via a 
web interface (on http://localhost:631/), and after a printer is
defined, it can be configured, which includes in the general options, a
setting for duplex printing, which can be set to None, Flip on Long
Edge, or Flip on Short Edge (you can see these options if you open the
.ppd file in a text editor and search for "Duplex").

I also found that I needed to set the default paper tray to tray #2
instead of the inane default of tray #1 (manual feed), but you may have
already discovered that.

Also, for convenience, I'm sending you a copy of that file, but
separately, so as not to clutter the list with unnecessarily large
attachments.

HTH,
--  
Stephen RyanDebian GNU/Linux
Technology Coordinator
Center for Educational Outcomes
at Dartmouth College


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RE: zope

[Jan Johansson]

>   How can i start and stop the zope server? In SuSE and FreeBSD there
> are the start and stop script, and in Debian/GNU Linux? I have stopped
> with kill, and can't restart

/etc/init.d/zope restart (or stop, or start or...)


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Re: Error installing mailman with exim

[Michel Loos]

Em Sex, 2002-06-14 às 03:45, Grégoire Cachet escreveu:
> hello
> 
> I try to configure mailman on my gateway for internet, using the exim mail
> server
> 
> My system is debian woody
> 
> I installed exim, and just changed the configuration in order to relay
> my own computer on the local network.
> 
> Then I installed mailman and created a new list typing :
> 
> # newlist test
> 
> It asked me to add some lines in the aliases file. I added in
> /etc/aliases :
> 
> ## test mailing list
> ## created: 12-Jun-2002 root
> test:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"
> test-admin:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"
> test-request:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"
> test-owner:  test-admin
> 
> I received a confirmation email for the new list "test"
> 
> 
> However, if I try to subscribe sending a mail to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], it didn't work.
> 
> I can't send messages to test-admin, test, test-owner either.
> 
> there are errors in exim's logs :
> 
> 2002-06-13 18:13:32 17IXE4-0001kY-00 Neither the system_aliases director
> nor the address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of
> |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post test
> 
> 

Just do exactly what this message says: set a uid in the system_aliases
director definitions in exim.conf

ex:
system_aliases:
  driver = aliasfile
  file_transport = address_file
  pipe_transport = address_pipe
  file = /etc/aliases
  search_type = lsearch
  user = list

(or user=exim, or user=mailman etc. depending on your configurations)

Michel.





> /var/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms returns no error
> 
> Besides, I receive error mails from cron every 15 minutes :
> 
> 2002-06-12 09:53:03 17I2PM-0005sU-00 Neither the system_aliases director
> nor the address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of
> |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test
> 
> Where does it not work ?
> 
> thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english
> 
> grégoire
> -- 
> Il faut dépenser le mépris avec une grande économie, 
> à cause du grand nombre de nécessiteux. Chateaubriand
> 
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zope

[O Senhor]

  hello,
  How can i start and stop the zope server? In SuSE and FreeBSD there
are the start and stop script, and in Debian/GNU Linux? I have stopped
with kill, and can't restart

  Thanks!
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