Re: shuttle disaster
On Sunday 02 February 2003 00:54, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: Dbian was used to control a hydroponics experiment on board of a shuttle > back in 1997; see http://www.debian.org/News/1997/shuttle1 . Yeah, and that was what made bruce perens, leave his studio. -- "Dismiss the weak and inferior, embrace the Evil and Possess your Box before the beast that has been unleashed upon you" -UNDEAD EvilEntity Linux Aryan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: shuttle disaster
i'm sure I read somewhere only 2 or 3 days ago (from slashdot news...) that they were using Debian GNU Linux...either way it's very sad :( Dave -Original Message- From: Will Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2003 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: Re: shuttle disaster > > space shuttle Columbia tragedy. I believe that they were using Debian GNU > > Linux for the first time onboard the shuttle :-( > > My understanding is that it was Red Hat. Either way, not the most If Debian was involved, it wasn't the first time. Debian flew on the space shuttle in 1997: http://www.debian.org/News/1997/19970708b -- thanks, Will -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list delay
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 01:18:30AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > Which is why many Canadian stores dealing with American currency advise > customers that they would be usually further ahead to use debit or > credit cards and hopefully take advantage of the card issuer's bulk > currency exchange rates. The Canadian electronic payment system > apparently interconnects with most of the major American ones. And my Washington Mutual debit card with the Visa logo got some mileage there. Oddly, it didn't work as a Visa, but did as a debit anywhere Interac was accepted, even though the card did not have an Interac logo on it...I tried it out of an act of despiration the first time, and shocked every cashier after that with finding this undocumented feature. > How much farther can we extend these tangents? ;) > I remember when "boot-up" and "logon" were how you warmed your feet in > front of a fireplace. I prefer one of my buddy's quotes (which totally pisses off a lot of our mutual American friends who have the stereotypical American worldview), "If you're not Canadian, you're not trying hard enough." -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg28071/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gcc not working
Hi, * Albert Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030202 13:57]: > the messages: > - configure > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create >executables. next step (or may previous step), what are the outputs of: which gcc ls -l `which gcc` gcc --version dpkg -l gcc Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Hastings_ \_\ Phone: +81 298 64 5200, ext 2429 Belle Group, KEK, /_/ _)O: Fax: +81 298 64 5340 1-1 Oho, Tsukuba-shi, :O(_ /_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ibaraki-ken 305-0801, Japan\_\ http://epp.ph.unimelb.edu.au/~hastings -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #381
-Don Spoon- wrote: First, my appologies for any confusion I may have generated on my previous post. Setting up for demand dialing and controling when you kick it off (bootup or manually via PON) are two different things. No problem. I happened to have RTFM on that one and was not confused. Could you take a look at your routing in the different configs you have posted? IIRC, the "defaultroute" or "gateway" on RETURN should be pointed at the ppp0 interface in the "demand" mode. I had some problems with this at first because I had set up a "gateway" entry for my eth0 interface on my equivalent of your "RETURN", and it just wouldn't dial out. I had to remove the "gateway" entry for that interface in /etc/network/interfaces file, and things would work OK. The pppd "defaultroute" option just wouldn't overwrite an existing one for the ethernet card(s). I only had to do this on my "gateway" computer...all the rest on my LAN pointed to that computer as their "gateway". OK. While I was online getting the flood of Debian-user digests, (pretty high traffic list for a bumpkin like me) I got this: return:~# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 66.81.235.139 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 default 66.81.235.139 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 I then re-activated the demand and persist options, thereby borking my ability to go on-line, and got this: return:~# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.112.112.112 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 default 10.112.112.112 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 From the literature, this is the behavior I would expect. ppp0 is pointed at a mythical IP address until it gets an outbound packet, and then it is supposed to dial. It just doesn't. I suspect some subtle misconfiguration...I pretty much followed the instructions to set things up, and I can't even figure out where to look further based on the man pages, etc. Doh! Thanks for taking me under your wing. On a totally unrelated note, everybody agrees that astronauts know what kind of risk they are taking, but man, it sucks quantitized rocks when they have to cover that bet. Siggy The strange thing in your situation is that manually starting pppd in the non-demand mode works. That doesn't jive with the above suggestion, but it is worth a look anyway. The "demand" funtion of pppd does work... I used it for several years until I got my Cable Modem connection. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shuttle disaster
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 13:55, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:56:04AM +1100, David Pastern wrote: > > My deepest commiserations to the US, NASA and all families involved over the > > space shuttle Columbia tragedy. I believe that they were using Debian GNU > > Linux for the first time onboard the shuttle :-( > > My understanding is that it was Red Hat. Either way, not the most > favorable way to get your distro noticed, even if it was unrelated. > > All the guys at my post are wearing black bands on thier shields > tonight. > this one's old but I'm not sure what they're using now ... http://www.debian.org/News/1997/19970401 Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian install failure: gettext-base was corrupt
I'm getting an error during initial base install from a CD image, "file: ... /gettext-base_0.10.40-5_i386.deb was corrupt" CD is debian-30r1-i386-binary-1.iso, built with jigdo, which claims it is good. I've changed just about anything I could possibly change, and keep getting the same error. Including installing from the ftp site instead of from the CD. Same error. I've switched cpus (one was a Athlon TBird 900, later I tried an Athlon XP 2000), motherboards (Iwill XP333-R & Shuttle FX41), and even created a new install CD from new downloads. I've tried to install using bf24, linux, and compact images. Nothing seems to make a difference. This install CD worked perfectly to install to my fujitsu laptop. Anyone have an insight into this? Have I missed a FAQ someplace that steers folks away from Athlon? Thanks in advance, glen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list delay
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 01:00, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 10:57:09PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > That's almost funny. Around here, Canadian coins (quaters, dimes, > > nickels, pennies) are treated as equal to US coins by people and > > cashiers. (vending machines won't take Canadian, though) I can't > > speak for the local banks since I almost never exchange coin with > > them. > > I think it depends. Portland's over 300 miles from the border, the > smallest Canadian denomination most places will accept is a $5, and > probably soon a $10 as soon as Canada phases out the $5 bill. > Canadian coinage is considered Monopoly Money since the prices banks > charge to deal with it is more than the value of the coin. That being > said, though, there's a currency exchange on every corner anyway, wich > will handle small amounts of Canadian coin at a reasonable price. Which is why many Canadian stores dealing with American currency advise customers that they would be usually further ahead to use debit or credit cards and hopefully take advantage of the card issuer's bulk currency exchange rates. The Canadian electronic payment system apparently interconnects with most of the major American ones. How much farther can we extend these tangents? ;) From the recent Red Green Show: I remember when "boot-up" and "logon" were how you warmed your feet in front of a fireplace. -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: shuttle disaster
> > space shuttle Columbia tragedy. I believe that they were using Debian GNU > > Linux for the first time onboard the shuttle :-( > > My understanding is that it was Red Hat. Either way, not the most If Debian was involved, it wasn't the first time. Debian flew on the space shuttle in 1997: http://www.debian.org/News/1997/19970708b -- thanks, Will -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mplayer - Divx avi videos run too fast!
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:58:40PM +0800, Elijah wrote: > I've been using mplayer for awhile now using my mpegs but it seems divx > video runs faster than audio could finish. I've tried -autosync 1 > and things started to slow down a bit for a few seconds, later on video > starts to run ahead from audio. Video and sound is not synching right. You have what is technically known as "a shitty rip." You're best off either using mencoder to try and re-encode it with the video synched up. Better yet, get a decent rip and avoid having to play around with that video's bogotronics. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg28064/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
I usually do it by adding "append="hdd=ide-scsi" to the /etc/lilo.conf right after going to /dev/ then do "MAKEDEV -v scd0". Then reboot and run xcdroast. Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list delay
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 10:57:09PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > That's almost funny. Around here, Canadian coins (quaters, dimes, > nickels, pennies) are treated as equal to US coins by people and > cashiers. (vending machines won't take Canadian, though) I can't > speak for the local banks since I almost never exchange coin with > them. I think it depends. Portland's over 300 miles from the border, the smallest Canadian denomination most places will accept is a $5, and probably soon a $10 as soon as Canada phases out the $5 bill. Canadian coinage is considered Monopoly Money since the prices banks charge to deal with it is more than the value of the coin. That being said, though, there's a currency exchange on every corner anyway, wich will handle small amounts of Canadian coin at a reasonable price. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg28062/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: shuttle disaster
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:56:04AM +1100, David Pastern wrote: > My deepest commiserations to the US, NASA and all families involved over the > space shuttle Columbia tragedy. I believe that they were using Debian GNU > Linux for the first time onboard the shuttle :-( My understanding is that it was Red Hat. Either way, not the most favorable way to get your distro noticed, even if it was unrelated. All the guys at my post are wearing black bands on thier shields tonight. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg28061/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 15:17, Gary Turner wrote: > I run X with icewm. No KDE or Gnome. What would be the advantage(s) of > adding one of these facilities? > -- > gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Well, you order it from the 'Society of Hardware and Information > Technology Helpers, Executive Administration Division' website - > you're a member aren't you?"--BOFH Ability to put more computer memory/swap space to regular use ;) Actually, the benefit is the intention of common look, feel, configuration and hopefully functionality, by having Gnome versions and/or KDE versions of most common software, with comparable abilities in those programs when necessary to rival or surpass what is found on systems such as the Macintosh or Windows (although the BSoD is only available as a screensaver.) Part of this is the advantage of a good selection of applications in the menus to cover the breadth of tasks you would like to perform, but the trade off is a lot of code up front for features that contain more functionality and overhead than you'd wish, and duplication of programs you consider to be fine as they are. Add in on top of all of that that each person has their own set of priorities and values when it comes to what they find to be a nice desktop - me, I run Gnome with three panels packed with applets monitoring everything going on inside my system, outside my door, and around the world. You might just want to be able to run enough that you get your various programs to display in windows on your desktop when they require that in addition to shell interaction. It is all a matter of taste. -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: postgreSQL install - user password
Once upon a time Kevin Coyner said... > > As I dig through the docs, I find that I need to su postgres in order to > create other users. Problem is that if I su postgres, I get queried for > a password. I've tried the obvious, including nothing, but haven't got > in as postgres yet. su to root first. Then when you su to postgres, you wont need to enter a password. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim ":make" -- "unmatched `" error
* will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030201 20:11]:
> i'm in vim, i'm editing like a madman (nothing else explains it)
> and i write out my changes
>
> :w
>
> and then i do a make:
>
> :make
>
> which displays
>
> <== blank line, here>
> Unmatched `.
> all up-to-date
> <== blank line, again>
> Hit ENTER or type command to continue
> (i did recently change my tcsh "complete" pattern for make:
>
> % complete make
> 'n/-f/f/' 'p@*@`perl -ne 'if (/^([^\s#.][-\w.%]+)\s*:/) {print "$1 "}'
>Makefile`@'
Well, I don't know my tcsh, but it looks to me like you probably want
something like this instead:
'n/-f/f/' 'p@*@`perl -ne \'if (/^([^\s#.][-\w.%]+)\s*:/) {print "$1 "}\' Makefile`@'
(note the escaped ticks)
But again, I don't know anything about tcsh completions.
> but surely that's unrelated...)
Why do you think it's unrelated? It's the only place you're using any
backticks, right?
good times,
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Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 10:11:27PM +0100, Peppe wrote: > Be always sure you DON'T have compiled your kernel with the > ATAPI CDROM support... So this means not to include ide-cd module? How does one get to the second, non-burner CD ROM? -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg28057/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 09:24:57PM +0100, Thomas Nyman wrote: > Am an old SuSEr that has just switched to Debian. Can someone give me a > helping hand getting hy hdc cd-rom burner working with ide-scsi emulation SuSE does it differently than every other distro? -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg28056/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: setting content-description in mutt
also sprach Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.02.0345 +0100]: > No. The problem with outhouse is that it doesn't do what the MIME > headers say. The band-aid is to not use MIME. Hence the > pgp_create_traditional option. I prefer the longer-term solution of > not using broken software. Right, I don't really care about the Micro$oft users. I just thought that if I add Content-Description to the MIME parts, maybe OutHouse is smart enough to display them, rather than ATT.DAT. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken! Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc msg28055/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
postgreSQL install - user password
I've been using MySQL but have been wanting to give postgreSQL a try, so I apt-get installed it today. The install went smooth and automatically created a user postgres for me. As I dig through the docs, I find that I need to su postgres in order to create other users. Problem is that if I su postgres, I get queried for a password. I've tried the obvious, including nothing, but haven't got in as postgres yet. I feel a bit foolish posting this, as I must have missed something at some point. Any pointers to get me back on track would be appreciated. Thanks Kevin -- Kevin Coyner mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 msg28054/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mplayer - Divx avi videos run too fast!
Hi again! I've been using mplayer for awhile now using my mpegs but it seems divx video runs faster than audio could finish. I've tried -autosync 1 and things started to slow down a bit for a few seconds, later on video starts to run ahead from audio. Video and sound is not synching right. here's the command I use: - mplayer -vo xv -ao sdl divxfile.avi -autosync 1 - Anybody got this working right?? Thanks for your time, Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian CD Install Problems
I just ran across that too (with r1), but I'm at a loss to tell you exactly how it occurred. At some point in my trying to fix problems, I invoked the dialog you reference and obligingly gave the answers it suggested. That's an error point. You should not be in that dialog. While I am unable to successfully install the upgrade (a PreDepend problem involving libc6), I found the release notes on the Debian web site (also on volume 1 of the CD set) to be a helpful guide I got out of the loop you describe by copying back the backup copy of /etc and then proceeded back to my "regular" dead end following the procedure in the release notes My "official" cd set came from Micronix -- David -Original Message- From: Paul M Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:03 PM To: Debian User Subject: Debian CD Install Problems I purchased the Debian 3.0r1 CDs from Cheapbytes recently, and have been unable to install from them. I had a similar thing happen with the 3.0 CDs. Here's what happens: Debian boots from the first CD, asks questions as usual, then asks for all the CDs to scan them. It builds the list of packages and runs dselect to allow me to choose which packages I want, which I do. At some point it proceeds to pull the packages off the disk to install them, which is where the trouble starts. It doesn't automatically find where things are on the CD. Instead, it asks me for the location of location of the top level "Packages-Master" file. It reads the at the location I give it, and then tells me there are no *.deb packages there. It then asks me where the *.deb files are. Well, they're not in one location-- they're in subdirectories under the pool subdirectory. When I give it that location, it continues to give me problems. I'm at a loss. The exact same thing happened with the Deb 3.0 disks, and I can't imagine that Cheapbytes screwed up the burns the same way. There is something about the way dselect is trying to find things-- somehow the discs are not organized the way it thinks. Surely someone's had this problem before and knows the answer. Help?! Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc not working
the messages: - configure checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. - config.log configure:937: checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works configure:953: gcc -o conftestconftest.c 1>&5 /usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure: failed program was: #line 948 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian CD Install Problems
I purchased the Debian 3.0r1 CDs from Cheapbytes recently, and have been unable to install from them. I had a similar thing happen with the 3.0 CDs. Here's what happens: Debian boots from the first CD, asks questions as usual, then asks for all the CDs to scan them. It builds the list of packages and runs dselect to allow me to choose which packages I want, which I do. At some point it proceeds to pull the packages off the disk to install them, which is where the trouble starts. It doesn't automatically find where things are on the CD. Instead, it asks me for the location of location of the top level "Packages-Master" file. It reads the at the location I give it, and then tells me there are no *.deb packages there. It then asks me where the *.deb files are. Well, they're not in one location-- they're in subdirectories under the pool subdirectory. When I give it that location, it continues to give me problems. I'm at a loss. The exact same thing happened with the Deb 3.0 disks, and I can't imagine that Cheapbytes screwed up the burns the same way. There is something about the way dselect is trying to find things-- somehow the discs are not organized the way it thinks. Surely someone's had this problem before and knows the answer. Help?! Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list delay
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 07:36:00PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: | On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | | "At present, SPI cannot accept donations in Canadian currency due to the | reluctance of U.S. banks to deal with Canadian funds. SPI is currently | evaluating the possibility of opening an account in a Canadian bank. " That's almost funny. Around here, Canadian coins (quaters, dimes, nickels, pennies) are treated as equal to US coins by people and cashiers. (vending machines won't take Canadian, though) I can't speak for the local banks since I almost never exchange coin with them. Of course, the ability to see Toronto on a clear day probably has an effect on that :-). (Rochester, NY) -D -- "...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." --Daniel Pead http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg28049/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
vim ":make" -- "unmatched `" error
i'm in vim, i'm editing like a madman (nothing else explains it)
and i write out my changes
:w
and then i do a make:
:make
which displays
<== blank line, here>
Unmatched `.
all up-to-date
<== blank line, again>
Hit ENTER or type command to continue
the Makefile contains
default : $(STAMPFILES)
@echo "all up-to-date"
so i can see when make is executing. to figure out where the
"Unmatched `" comes from i tried "make" from the command line--
$ make
all up-to-date
$
so it's not make, per se. what other suspect is there, besides a
vim macro? how (else) would i track this down?
i also tried
vim -V team.sql
[snippety snip]
finished sourcing /usr/share/vim/vim61/plugin/rrhelper.vim
Searching for "/usr/share/vim/vimfiles/after/plugin/*.vim"
Searching for "/home/will/.vim/after/plugin/*.vim"
Reading viminfo file "/home/will/.viminfo" info
[here's where i get to edit, then i do :make and...]
Calling shell to execute: "make |& tee /tmp/v190198/0"
Unmatched `.
psql -d serensoft -f team.sql &> team.sql.out
all up-to-date
Hit ENTER or type command to continue
so -V didn't help much either. where's the unmatched backtick
gonna be found?
(i did recently change my tcsh "complete" pattern for make:
% complete make
'n/-f/f/' 'p@*@`perl -ne 'if (/^([^\s#.][-\w.%]+)\s*:/) {print "$1 "}'
Makefile`@'
but surely that's unrelated...)
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Looking for a BEGINNER'S GUIDE TO LINUX ADMINISTRATION?
apt-get install ldp-sag sysadmin-guide
That'll get you both the HTML-ified/PS-ified and the text file.
Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
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Re: install ant package
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 06:42:46PM -0500, Titus Barik wrote: | Hi, | | I'm running Debian testing. I'd like to install the ant package without | installing Samble VM, as I am already using the Sun JDK 1.4 compiler. | How can I accomplish this? I assume the problem is dependency resolution. You have a couple of options : 1) Add one of the blackdown mirrors to your sources list and install the j2sdk1.4 package. This will satisfy any java deps by providing a JVM. 2) apt-get install java-virtual-machine-dummy. This will satisfy the package system's deps, but won't actually provide your system with a JVM. -D -- Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. Psalms 119:105 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg28047/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: One NAT'ed machine fails.
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 04:59:08PM -0800, nate wrote: | ECN is, off the top of my head, some modern method for detecting | congested network pipes, Correct. It stands for "Explicit Congestion Notification". | it is incompadible with some routers or ip stacks on some systems | preventing communication with them. Only ones that don't strictly conform to the earlier specs are incompatible. Unfortunately such systems exist. | So, if you have this problem it's best to turn ECN off, in | the 2.4.x kernel menuconfig it's in the networking options section. echo 0 >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn -D -- If you hold to [Jesus'] teaching, you are really [Jesus'] disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. John 8:31-32 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg28046/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
nate wrote: >Gary Turner said: >> I run X with icewm. No KDE or Gnome. What would be the advantage(s) of >> adding one of these facilities? > >a more integrated "experience". Generally a more consistant look & >feel between the apps. File managers with a good deal of mime types >configured so you can click/double click on a file and have it open >in the default app. Tnx, Nate. There's nothing there that I just hafta have. I usually call files from the app rather than have the file start the app, and icewm's look is consistent enough for me. The primary need here for X lies in browsers. I'll have 7 or 8 open at a time to test web pages. Now, if you have a quick/simple/direct way to copy/cut/paste between X and console... [...] -- gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone tells you--- "I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny." ---they don't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using VIA C3 and Woody?
Bill Moseley wrote: I want to build a very quiet and stable machine. Anyone using a VIA C3 based system with Woody? If so, what motherboard are you using? Any hardware issues? not sure which chipset it will be, some chipsets have problems with IDE, namely audio cd ripping, I know mine has the issue (lost interrupt, cd audio ripping slow, with BIOS upgrade some MBs work somewhat better): jojda:~> lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev c4) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40) 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/686A/B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40) 00:09.0 SCSI storage controller: Artop Electronic Corp ATP865 (rev 02) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10) 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 display problems
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Chad Johnson wrote: > /var/log/XFree86.0.log, a line towards the very end states that "Primary > Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (EE) No devices detected" - which seems kind of This is normal, they all say pci, even for agp > odd, since my card uses an AGP slot (GeForce 4 Ti4600). the X system in stable doesn't support the GeForce4's with the built in nv driver. You'll need to get ahold of and install the nvidia drivers, or i _think_ moving to unstable might work, but it's better to go with the drivers. The open source drivers are called "nv" in the XF86Config-4, and "nvidia" is the closed source ones that are packaged with debian. mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XF86Config and Gidday
hello list, The mail I recieved on subscribing said "submissions by you will be returned" so I am testing yet another ambiguity discovered on the Debian Highway. To actually use the BW,, Having used to upgrade a Debian 2r2 floppy boot,, I am left with a 10mm/.5"sq graphic in Windowmaker that moves around in imitation of a cursor! I have added the /gpmdata line in XF86Config-4 and changed gpm.conf line to "raw". This info coming from deja/google searches. My question is: What do i need to tell XF86Config to get a 'normalised' cursor? HW=standard ps2 mouse + Sis6326 Adaptor + Dell17FS Monitor *the system is dualbooted with Win95B (OSR2.2). http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PPC apt-get upgrade failed
Unpacking konqueror failed because it was unpacked before kdebase-libs, and the old kdebase-libs (2.2.2-14) shares a file with the new konqueror package (2.2.2-14.2). I imagine this is a bug in the dependency information for the security updates rather than a bug in apt and/or dpkg. I fixed my system "by hand": dpkg --pending --configure apt-get install konqueror FYI, John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree86 display problems
When I boot into Debian, it tries to start a desktop (I believe I have it set to gdm), but the screen just flashes a few times and then gives me an error message and tells me to look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log. I tried using startx to no avail (it exhibited similar behavior - the screen just flashed and went back to the text bash shell). I think there may be a problem with my video card and/or detection of it. In /var/log/XFree86.0.log, a line towards the very end states that "Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (EE) No devices detected" - which seems kind of odd, since my card uses an AGP slot (GeForce 4 Ti4600). I searched the mailing list archives (not exhaustively, but for a while) and I came across a discussion regarding someone who was having similar problems and I tried several of the solutions offered, namely: make xconfig XFree86 -configure xhost +localhost xhost +debian export DISPLAY=localhost:0# and also with DISPLAY=:0 apt-get install discover mdetect read-edid dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 xfree86 apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common None of them worked. That last set of three lines presumably replaced the existing XFree86 with the one on the CDs, though I was hoping it would download a newer version, as this one seems rather old (v. 4.1.0.1 I believe, dated 21 December 2001). Would this be a possible solution, i.e., downloading a newer version? I also noticed at one point (I believe it was when I executed the XFree86 -configure) that I received an error message telling me a proper configuration was detected, but the data was missing from some header file. Thanks for the help, Chad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netdev watchdog eth0 transmit timed out
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 05:01:28PM -0800, Alvin Oga spake thus: > > On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Sam Varghese wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > g'day all, > > > > i've just set up a debian box for use as a server, using woody. > > everything has gone well apart from this message which keeps coming > > through every now and then: > > > > netdev watchdog eth0 transmit timed out > > > > i used the 2.4 kernel which came with the disks - 2.4.18-bf2.4. the > > network cards on the box both use the rtl8139 module. > > just found out and confirmed w/ other mb/systems ... that > the onboard rtl (phy) chips running w/ sis900 drivers are worthless > at high network load ( say 5 5GB streaming video .. ) > - exact same watchdog error you got > > use a different motherboard or different pci-based nics > and the problem is gone > ( eepro-100 pci card or netgear fa310 or ?? thanks, alvin. there's no way i can change the mobo so i guess i'll have to get a couple of new nics. sam - -- Sam Varghese http://www.gnubies.com Every man has his own destiny: the only imperative is to follow it, to accept it, no matter where it leads him. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PIZfZyXhknb+33gRAki2AJ4mjW0pUicP/eKA04nZV9/A1pSGmgCfcpkO RDBLddbbD2CZjtiwWSFYEBQ= =c8oy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting content-description in mutt
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:16:06PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | Also, does the above possibly give more of a clue to Outlook Express | readers, who receive GPG signed email in two attachments to an empty | message? No. The problem with outhouse is that it doesn't do what the MIME headers say. The band-aid is to not use MIME. Hence the pgp_create_traditional option. I prefer the longer-term solution of not using broken software. -D -- "...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." --Daniel Pead http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg28038/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:39:32 -0800 (PST) "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I looked at syphleed(not claws) about a year ago or so..I vaguely remmeber > it not having many IMAP features. haven't tried the claws one. Not > restricted to console, I did an apt-cache search syphleed and came up with > nothing, is it not part of woody? Whoops, I forgot one caveat on my last email about Sylpheed-claws. Sylpheed was designed with maildir first and foremost and its mbox support is not the greatest. If you've got lots of mail in mbox you might need to find or make a script to convert it over for easy incorporation into claws. Also because of this you might need to change your local IMAP server to maildir so Squirrelmail can still access the same set of mail. I run uw-imapd here and it is sometimes a pain to have Squirrelmail looking in the mbox director while claws has its own maildir directory. But then Squirrelmail, to me, is just a backup when I don't have a way to export an X display to whatever machine I am on. A rare occurrence. msg28037/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:39:32 -0800 (PST) "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Lamb said: > > Have you taken a look at Sylpheed-claws? > I looked at syphleed(not claws) about a year ago or so..I vaguely remmeber > it not having many IMAP features. haven't tried the claws one. Not > restricted to console, I did an apt-cache search syphleed and came up with > nothing, is it not part of woody? Dunno if that is what you looked for but if it is you misspelled it. l comes before the ph. It should be in Woody. I've been riding unstable because of Sylpheed-claws. They moved from pspell to aspell 0.5.0 so for a while there was no spell checking inside claws. Also the later versions are moving towards being able to effectively read without the preview window. I'm not sure if it matches your exact IMAP requirements but it has improved a lot in other areas in just the past couple of months so there might be a chance that its IMAP support has moved more to what you need. msg28036/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trouble Starting up
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 01:26:33AM -0700, Benjamin Meakin wrote: > Hello, > While installing the packages for debian I get an error message that > says: > Errors encountered while processing: > cxref What is the result of running "apt-get install cxref"? > I also run in to trouble when I try to start gnome. I can not get gnome > to function properly. The images are distorted, the desktop does not fit > to screen, and many other problems. How can I go about fixing these > things. If you start X without starting gnome, do you also get distorted images and the desktop not fitting on screen. If so, X may not be configured correctly. -- Jerome msg28035/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: QT Libraries, help needed
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 09:53:58PM +0100, Peppe wrote: > Hi, > I have problems with the QT libraries: > > But > 1) gcc doesn't compile ANY qt-based program, like even tutorials O_O > 2) the binary compiled on another system doesn't start... Are you using qmake? Or your own method. Are you using stable? What about gcc --version? - Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc not working
Albert Knox said: > hi! i'm trying to compile a program from sources, but when I type > "./configure" it says that gcc is not working. The package is installed. > What can be the problem? programs that use configure usually generate a config.log look at that log to see what it says nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bad dynamic tag
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 04:17:14AM +0100, David Jardine wrote: > I've had trouble booting since I installed woody a couple > of months or so ago (kernel 2.2.20 #1), but things have > become so bad recently that I'm hoping I might get some > help from you kind folks. (I've found correspondence about > such a problem in debian list archives, but no solution.) > > The key symptom seems to be a line > > Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: >Assertion '! "bad dynamic tag"' failed! Have you run a check of your filesystem? And what FS are you using? What do you get in dmesg output? - Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
Jamin W. Collins said: > On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 04:54:02PM -0800, nate wrote: > TMK, it has it. At least I haven't found anything I needed that it > doesn't have. ok > >> be able to view multiple folders at once(to see which has new mail), > > You can configure multiple mailboxes in mutt and it will let you know > which ones have new mail. You can even cycle through the boxes with new > mail. thats better then the last time I tried to configure it. I may try it again .. > Why not filter at the server level? server doesn't support it, well I do sort at the server level for my home stuff, each email address is a different IMAP folder and mail goes directly to it, since I don't have a job right now thats all I need for the moment :) > Mutt has hooks that can be configured to automatically change your address > as needed. > >> support IMAP over SSL(not needed with webmail but it's what I used in >> netscape and mozilla). I suppose I could work around this with stunnel >> ..haven't tried though. > > Mutt's got it. > >> there's probably a couple other things I can't think of at the moment, >> the general interface to mutt wasn't very flexible when dealing with >> multiple IMAP folders last time I tried it, > > I routinely check several different boxes with Mutt. so mutt sounds like it may be worth a check again, now just to get around to checking it out again :) thanks! nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc not working
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 10:48:27PM -0300, Albert Knox wrote: > hi! i'm trying to compile a program from sources, but when I type "./configure" it >says that gcc is not working. The package is installed. What can be the problem? A micrometeorite destroyed one or two bites on your hard drive! :) At least post the error and something about the gcc installed like gcc --version or something.. - adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gimp Print Problem
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 10:15:15AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > Embarassed. Part of the problem was a defective ink cartridge. > > lp /usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps > > is now ok. But termial problem persists. lp printtest prints nothing > and generates the error_log previously reported. printtest is a one > line of plain text in a file produced by vi. I also tried copying dmesg to a > file and trying to print that file with lp, again with no output. If you ran "gs printtest", I think you will get a similar error message. Cupsys seems to be passing the file to gs-esp without first converting it to postscript. Your cups mimetypes may not be configured correctly. What does "file printtest" report? Check /etc/cups/mime.convs; it should have section that reads: # PostScript filters # application/pdf application/postscript 33 pdftops application/postscript application/vnd.cups-postscript 66 pstops application/vnd.hp-HPGL application/postscript 66 hpgltops image/* application/vnd.cups-postscript 66 imagetops application/x-cshellapplication/postscript 33 texttops application/x-perl application/postscript 33 texttops application/x-shell application/postscript 33 texttops text/plain application/postscript 33 texttops text/html application/postscript 33 texttops The "texttops" filter should be located: /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops Also, Check /etc/cups/mime.types; in the section "Text files...", you should have an entry: text/plain txt printable(0,1024) -- Jerome msg28028/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Secure Relaying -- a start
will trillich wrote: yep. try uncommenting one of them (if it happens to refer to /etc/exim/passwd then you need to set that up properly to match) OK. I now get the right responses from the EHLO command to show authentication. Must have uncommented the client set before. Duh. Now to set up the process of authenticating properly. Thanks. Ed Lawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 05:39:32PM -0800, nate wrote: > I did an apt-cache search syphleed and came up with nothing, is it not > part of woody? sylpheed - Light weight e-mail client with GTK+ sylpheed-claws - Bleeding edge version of the Sylpheed mail client -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How I partitioned my harddrive
Hi Karsten, I have a perhaps stupid question with an obvious answer (but not so evident to me): During the installation process of a Debian system, I don't remember ever being prompted a question asking me in what partition I wanted to install anything except / , so I figure that this redistribution into different partitions must be done after the whole installation script runs. Do you accomplish this by moving, or by creating syslinks? Or either way? Which is best? Thanks, Antonio. - Original Message - From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:50 AM Subject: Re: How I partitioned my harddrive > on Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 02:32:55AM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > I'd mostly call myself a "regular user" -- although I do have a web server > > installed on my laptop it doesn't broadcast to the world...it's just me > > the couch and the tv and occassionally the cat. > > Hmm...I'd wondered where he'd gone > > <...> > > > I believe I came up with these numbers from a Red Hat book, although > > many people have included their disk partition sizes on their web > > sites. > > Myself included: > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html > > Note that partitioning is a pretty subjective issue. You can pretty > much have any number of partitions from one[1] on up. > > Red Hat partitioning guidelines are almost certainly going to be biased > in favor of a large root partition. RH seems to want a 250 MiB root for > a 7.x install. You can do less, but it will complain. Debian uses a > sparser root, which the old farts consider a better thing (less to go > wrong). BSDers take this to an extreme. > > The argument in favor of fewer partitions is fewer decisions, less > wasted/lost space, and easier overall management. > > The argument in favor of more partitions is more control, particularly > selecting filesystems and/or mount options appropriate to the partition > (nodev, nosuid, noexec, etc.). You're also increasing recoverability -- > filesystem corruption is generally restricted to only a single > partition. You also have the option of shuttling data to other > partitions while doing maintenance or recovery. And if you create a > spare bootable partition, you've got a fallback on the system in the > event your primary boot goes pear shaped. > > > > I know only of the linux laptop site, but many of the people > > who've contributed info have included disk partition information: > > http://www.linux-laptop.net/ > > > > Here's mine: > > emmajane@debian:~$ df -h (-h = human readable sizes) > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hda2 464M 28M 412M 7% / > > Note that you're only using 7% of this partition. That's a good 350 MiB > wasted... > > > /dev/hda3 4.6G 2.1G 2.4G 47% /home > > Healthy. I generally give /home the remainder of space after allocating > to all else. > > > /dev/hda5 2.3G 1.3G 901M 60% /usr > > Good. > > > /dev/hda6 464M 108M 333M 25% /var > > I tend to recommend 750 MiB - 1 GiB. You've split out /var/cache > separately... > > > /dev/hda7 2.8G 46M 2.6G 2% /usr/local > > My experience is that /usr/local tends not to get used that much on > Debian. Something about having 12k available packages all of which go > to /usr > > > /dev/hda9 46M 13M 31M 30% /tmp > > Good, possibly a bit thin. I tend to give 64-256MB to /tmp > > > /dev/hda102.3G 334M 1.9G 15% /var/cache > > Hmm. Frankly, I'd lose this. If you can, roll the space back into /var > and /home. parted may be able to resize your partitions. > > <...> > > > > > So today I filled up /var. Based on some great advice that got here I > > decided to find the largest subdirectory and make a new partition just > > for that directory. This freed up a good chunk of space (75% of the > > partition) to be shared in the other sub-directories. A number of > > people recommended cleaning out /var...464M isn't a lot to begin with. > > I have virtually no logs and no mail. As you can see, there wasn't a > > lot to clean out: > > > > debian:/home/emmajane# du --max-depth=1 -h /var > > 12K /var/lost+found > > 75M /var/lib > > 334M/var/cache > > 2.8M/var/backups > > 1.0K/var/local > > 1.0K/var/lock > > 21M /var/log > > 40K /var/run > > 9.9M/var/spool > > 10K /var/tmp > > 1.0K/var/opt > > 1.0K/var/mail > > 10K /var/www > > 441M/var > > > > (Note that the size of /var/cache is approximately the same size as > > /dev/hda10 from above? This is because I moved /var/cache into that > > partition but du reads it as if it were all the same...I think.) > > du reads the directories _in_ the directory you point it at. If you > want to keep it on one filesystem, use the '-x' option. > > > > > IMO your end results are still a bit imbalanced. Not a huge
gcc not working
hi! i'm trying to compile a program from sources, but when I type "./configure" it says that gcc is not working. The package is installed. What can be the problem? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
Steve Lamb said: > On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:54:02 -0800 (PST) > "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> be able to view multiple folders at once(to see which has new mail), > > [Snip a bunch of stuff] > > Sorry to drop in in the middle and if this has been answered, ignore > me, > most people do. Have you taken a look at Sylpheed-claws? You mentioned > mutt and pine so I dunno if you're restricted to console. I have a lot of > the same requirements as you do and haven't found a console mail client > that does what I need. Don't worry though, I'm not a all-GUI-all-the-time > user. Nothing GUI has yet pried me from slrn's grasp. OTOH pan is > excellent for decoding binaries. :) I looked at syphleed(not claws) about a year ago or so..I vaguely remmeber it not having many IMAP features. haven't tried the claws one. Not restricted to console, I did an apt-cache search syphleed and came up with nothing, is it not part of woody? nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord: What does "BURN-Free is OFF" mean?
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 11:57:27AM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > I notice a slight difference in the messages from cdrecord when I > write using these: The newer, non-working writer messages contain an > extra message "BURN-Free is OFF" What does this mean and does it > have anything to do with the CDs being unuseable on any other > computers? I wouldn't think so - from cdrecord man page: driveropts=option list Set driver specific options. The options are specified a comma separated list. To get a list of valid options use driveropts=help together with the -checkdrive option. Currently implemented driver options are: burnfree Turn the support for Buffer Underrun Free writing on. This only works for drives that support Buffer Underrun Free technology. This may be called: Sanyo BURN-Proof, Ricoh Just-Link, Yamaha Lossless-Link or similar. The default is to turn BURN-Free off, regardless of the defaults of the drive. noburnfree Turn the support for Buffer Underrun Free writing off. cheers dc -- David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins, O Lord, who could stand? Psalm 130:3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: twiki installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had some problems setting up twiki for Debian. I switched to moin instead. - - Ryan On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 08:26:23PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > Anyone out there use twiki? how do you do the initial configuration?? > (like, setting the webmaster's password, etc) > doesn't seem to be indicated in /usr/share/doc/twiki, and I didn't > notice it in the debconf setup. > > thx for the help... > matt > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PHYS6ZA8+1/wXqMRAoolAKCEYoLaz4GZAzMTcro2DZgk2CxKdQCfVght R7VJn/ADcqNer217D3DegX0= =dxgV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 04:54:02PM -0800, nate wrote: > full IMAP support - TMK, it has it. At least I haven't found anything I needed that it doesn't have. > be able to view multiple folders at once(to see which has new mail), You can configure multiple mailboxes in mutt and it will let you know which ones have new mail. You can even cycle through the boxes with new mail. > mail filtering via IMAP(detect new mail in inbox, move it to another > folder, all my email is stored on the IMAP server, which is on > a server I own & operate so I don't have to be concerned about quotas > or disk space issues). I used this feature for my work email, for > home I rarely use it at all. Why not filter at the server level? > provide easy way to change my from: email address(I suppose I > could type it in..) I have about 15 email addresses that I use > on a regular basis, and another 15 that are less regular, in > squirrelmail theres a little dropdown box at the top where I can > choose the email address I want to use. Mutt has hooks that can be configured to automatically change your address as needed. > support IMAP over SSL(not needed with webmail but it's what I used > in netscape and mozilla). I suppose I could work around this with > stunnel ..haven't tried though. Mutt's got it. > there's probably a couple other things I can't think of at the moment, > the general interface to mutt wasn't very flexible when dealing with > multiple IMAP folders last time I tried it, I routinely check several different boxes with Mutt. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:54:02 -0800 (PST) "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > be able to view multiple folders at once(to see which has new mail), [Snip a bunch of stuff] Sorry to drop in in the middle and if this has been answered, ignore me, most people do. Have you taken a look at Sylpheed-claws? You mentioned mutt and pine so I dunno if you're restricted to console. I have a lot of the same requirements as you do and haven't found a console mail client that does what I need. Don't worry though, I'm not a all-GUI-all-the-time user. Nothing GUI has yet pried me from slrn's grasp. OTOH pan is excellent for decoding binaries. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. To email: Don't despair! | -- Lenny Nero, Strange Days ---+- msg28020/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: netdev watchdog eth0 transmit timed out
hi ya On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Sam Varghese wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > g'day all, > > i've just set up a debian box for use as a server, using woody. > everything has gone well apart from this message which keeps coming > through every now and then: > > netdev watchdog eth0 transmit timed out > > i used the 2.4 kernel which came with the disks - 2.4.18-bf2.4. the > network cards on the box both use the rtl8139 module. just found out and confirmed w/ other mb/systems ... that the onboard rtl (phy) chips running w/ sis900 drivers are worthless at high network load ( say 5 5GB streaming video .. ) - exact same watchdog error you got use a different motherboard or different pci-based nics and the problem is gone ( eepro-100 pci card or netgear fa310 or ?? c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: One NAT'ed machine fails.
Bill Moseley said: > www.lego.com.http: S [ECN-Echo,CWR] 632915726:632915726(0) win 5840 1460,sackOK,timestamp 55056307 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF) 15:47:19.784555 > bumby.41055 > www.lego.com.http: S [ECN-Echo,CWR] 632915726:632915726(0) > win 5840 (DF) that kernel on the client there has ECN support enabled, disable it and it should work. ECN is, off the top of my head, some modern method for detecting congested network pipes, it is incompadible with some routers or ip stacks on some systems preventing communication with them. So, if you have this problem it's best to turn ECN off, in the 2.4.x kernel menuconfig it's in the networking options section. I would expect default debian kernels to have this off, so maybe you compiled your own kernel and turned it on? it's a common issue nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: supported hardware
james leclair said: > Hello, > Can anyone suggest a modem i should consider for installation on our woody > 3.0_r1 boxes? any external, serial-port based USR modem should work wonderfully, of course the Courier line is probably the best :) (~$300/ea though) external modems are usually best because modems can 'lock up' and with an external you can power cycle it, with an internal you usually have to hard reboot. that and you can disconnect the external at any time and move it to another machine if needed w/o downtime. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
Hugh Saunders said: > > what do you want to do that mutt cant? full IMAP support - be able to view multiple folders at once(to see which has new mail), e.g. I monitor 16 different email accounts from 1 account at the moment. I have about 45 other email accounts that I can monitor in addition by subscribing to the folders(the folders recieve email whether I am subscribed or not). mail filtering via IMAP(detect new mail in inbox, move it to another folder, all my email is stored on the IMAP server, which is on a server I own & operate so I don't have to be concerned about quotas or disk space issues). I used this feature for my work email, for home I rarely use it at all. provide easy way to change my from: email address(I suppose I could type it in..) I have about 15 email addresses that I use on a regular basis, and another 15 that are less regular, in squirrelmail theres a little dropdown box at the top where I can choose the email address I want to use. support IMAP over SSL(not needed with webmail but it's what I used in netscape and mozilla). I suppose I could work around this with stunnel ..haven't tried though. there's probably a couple other things I can't think of at the moment, the general interface to mutt wasn't very flexible when dealing with multiple IMAP folders last time I tried it, if I remember right the only way I could change folders was to change my .muttrc I think and reload mutt(I'm sure theres a better way but I didn't know at the time). I tried pine too, I used pine for several years as my primary email client, but it too is difficult to use with the IMAP setup I have going(last time I tried at least). only thing lacking in squirrelmail that I can think of is threading support, which is of course handy for mailing lists, but it's not a real priority for me. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bind9 and microsoft issues
Hi all,
I keep getting flooded with messages like
Jan 31 17:30:14 polaris named[232]: client 207.46.150.12#32645: query (cache) denied
Jan 31 17:30:14 polaris named[231]: client 207.46.150.12#32645: query (cache) denied
Jan 31 17:30:14 polaris named[232]: client 207.46.150.12#32645: query (cache) denied
Jan 31 17:30:14 polaris named[231]: client 207.46.150.12#32645: query (cache) denied
Jan 31 17:30:14 polaris named[232]: client 207.46.150.12#32645: query (cache) denied
Jan 31 17:48:01 polaris named[231]: client 207.46.245.10#2567: query (cache) denied
Jan 31 17:48:01 polaris named[232]: client 207.46.245.10#2567: query (cache) denied
Jan 31 17:48:01 polaris named[231]: client 207.46.245.10#2567: query (cache) denied
Jan 31 17:48:01 polaris named[232]: client 207.46.245.10#2567: query (cache) denied
but these only occur from those IP ranges... Now traceroute and host do not
resolve these but whois says this is part of MICROSOFT-GLOBAL-NET (207.46.0.0).
I allow query for everyone for the domains that are to be public
zone "zombino.com"{
type master;
file "db_my_domain";
allow-transfer{
{some IPs here}
};
allow-query { any; };
};
Is this a bind9 issue (woody) or MS has their computers screwed up?
I can only reproduce it if I try to use my server as a DNS for a domain
that query is not allowed [like `host umanitoba.ca zombino.com`].
Thanks,
- Adam
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Re: list delay
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:59:59 +1100 bob parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may be due to circumstances at the time. I've been subscribed for a few > months now and I find that my messages are returned at any time between a > minute and a couple of hours maximum. Possible postfix problem on the lists machine? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. To email: Don't despair! | -- Lenny Nero, Strange Days ---+- msg28014/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
netdev watchdog eth0 transmit timed out
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 g'day all, i've just set up a debian box for use as a server, using woody. everything has gone well apart from this message which keeps coming through every now and then: netdev watchdog eth0 transmit timed out i used the 2.4 kernel which came with the disks - 2.4.18-bf2.4. the network cards on the box both use the rtl8139 module. i'm about to put the box on the net to test it but wanted to find out the cause of the messages before i do so. any help would be appreciated. sam - -- Sam Varghese http://www.gnubies.com The dogs bark but the caravan passes. - ancient Arab proverb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PGmRZyXhknb+33gRAnrtAJ4nlcHEGgLQwEV4705G6V5w8XEF7gCeJvc/ Zyy5Rz1EYkMrX70FyKDdfhM= =NZOi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 04:53:37PM -0500, Mike M wrote: > What email clients and browsers do you use? Window Manager -> blackbox Browser -> Phoenix, Dillo (depending on the situation) Mail Client -> mutt -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list delay
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: "At present, SPI cannot accept donations in Canadian currency due to the reluctance of U.S. banks to deal with Canadian funds. SPI is currently evaluating the possibility of opening an account in a Canadian bank. " :/ Then again, i've always been able to give people money by simply marking US over by the dollars entry, and only one person has ever had a problem with that. Then again, when I had someone mail them a proper US bank issued check, they didn't cash that either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuration centralizing tool sought - yupp
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > There are not things you should package. It's a one-off that you, > as a capable sysadmin ;), should be able to write in less time as > it took for you to compose this message. and i'd make the script check the Master release directory and update tiself .. everytime the master version changed master:/home/master/foo.rc master:/home/master/foo.specificUSER.rc test your customized changes ... and release to the release dir... and each client updates itself automatically.. - i do that/this with most of my systems files... a script runs daily to update itself and/or a change can be forced for clients to update now ( assumign the script is constantly running ) with a command says "wakeup" than the scripts will update itself w/o waiting for periodic cron updates lots o ways to skin the cat here - pulling is better ... than pushing...:-) "apt-get foo.rc" c ya alvin > #! /bin/sh > # > # Usage: tool[user ..] > # > DIR=$1 > RC=$2 > shift; shift add code for check against the master and update yourself first if needed/desired > > for i in $* > do > HDIR=`eval echo ~$i` > if [ -f $HDIR/$RC ] > then > if [ ! -d $DIR/$i ] > then > mkdir $DIR/$i > fi - add code for specific user version > if [ ! -f $DIR/$i/$RC ] > then > cp -a $HDIR/$RC $DIR/$i > echo "** User $i:" > echo "== Initial copy of $HDIR/$RC to $DIR/$i .. OK" > elif ! cmp -s $HDIR/$RC $DIR/$i/$RC > then > echo "** User $i:" > echo "== $HDIR/$RC differs from backup $DIR/$i/$RC :" > diff -u $DIR/$i $HDIR/$RC > echo > cp -a $HDIR/$RC $DIR/$i > fi > fi > done | mail -s "Tool output" root > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up the mail program
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:03:18 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once again, have a properly configured MTA (mail transport agent) like > exim running. eximconfig will set exim up for you by asking a few > questions. I never understood why people insist on a fully qualified MTA (or any MTA, for that matter) for sending through a static SMTP server. The most often cited reason is "Well, what do you do when the SMTP server doesn't answer?" Erm, what do you do when the MTA isn't installed or returns an error code? One would think that the solution to both would be identical. Unfortunately most people seem to think that a mail program shouldn't have to deal with missing or dying MTAs with any sort of grace. IE, just dumping the message back on the user is somehow acceptable. *shrug* -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. To email: Don't despair! | -- Lenny Nero, Strange Days ---+- msg28009/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: supported hardware
Hi James, IMHO your best bet would be a serial-port (RS232) external modem, the majority of internal modems are winmodems so probably won't work. If you definately need an internal one I have had success with the Hayes/Zoom V.92 modems (Lucent chipset), not sure if they are available where you are. Also the Intel HAM modems have linux drivers available but I have not been able to get them to work yet. Can't say much about USB modems never (and probably won't in the near future) tried them. Check out www.linmodems.org, this was where I found the info about the Hayes modem (the drivers I used were not official ones). Usually if you end up buying a modem you will probably be able to do a search for the Device Ids (usually looks something like "11c1:0462") of your modem. Hope this info helps. Regards Lee - Original Message - From: "james leclair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:34 PM Subject: supported hardware > Hello, > Can anyone suggest a modem i should consider for installation on our woody > 3.0_r1 boxes? > Thanks, > James > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
hi ya On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Thomas Nyman wrote: > Hi > > Am an old SuSEr that has just switched to Debian. Can someone give me a > helping hand getting hy hdc cd-rom burner working with ide-scsi emulation collection of cdrw stuff http://www.Linux-1U.net/CDRW ( look for the kernel options you'd need ) c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One NAT'ed machine fails.
I have A SuSE machine running as a NAT machine. On the internal LAN is a Windows machine, and two Debian testing/unstable machines (one is a laptop). The desktop Debian 'bumby' works fine most of the time, although I noticed that I could not reach (at my son's request) lego.com. I thought it was down, as traceroute failed (although they probably are blocking pings). But, when I tried from the Debian laptop I can reach lego.com. On the SuSE NAT machine netstat -M shows both connections: prot expire source destination ports tcp 1:56.02 bumbywww.lego.com 40828 -> www-http (61123) tcp 1:59.79 laptop www.lego.com 1026 -> www-http (61124) And there is not a firewall running on the SuSE machine: > ipchains -L -n Chain input (policy ACCEPT): Chain forward (policy ACCEPT): target prot opt sourcedestination ports MASQ all -- 192.168.0.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 n/a Chain output (policy ACCEPT): Here's a "tcpdump host www.lego.com" on the NAT machine. The laptop is running testing with 2.4.18 and the desktop (bumby) is running testing/unstable with 2.4.20. I suppose the difference in the flag is the difference in the TCP/IP stack in the two kernels. I assume it's the server failing to deal with the ECN-Echo or CWR flag. Seems like the only significant difference. lego.com sets a cookie with "ASPSESSION..." which makes me suspect IIS. I'm no expert with tcpdump... First tcpdump of the laptop connection: 15:44:05.501142 laptop.1029 > www.lego.com.http: S 461862062:461862062(0) win 5840 (DF) 15:44:05.593932 www.lego.com.http > laptop.1029: S 2028817538:2028817538(0) ack 461862063 win 64240 (DF) 15:44:05.597874 laptop.1029 > www.lego.com.http: . 1:1(0) ack 1 win 5840 (DF) 15:44:05.605551 laptop.1029 > www.lego.com.http: P 1:459(458) ack 1 win 5840 (DF) 15:44:05.737622 www.lego.com.http > laptop.1029: P 1:260(259) ack 459 win 63782 (DF) 15:44:05.740119 www.lego.com.http > laptop.1029: FP 260:401(141) ack 459 win 63782 (DF) 15:44:05.742671 laptop.1029 > www.lego.com.http: . 459:459(0) ack 260 win 6432 (DF) 15:44:05.783058 laptop.1029 > www.lego.com.http: . 459:459(0) ack 402 win 7504 (DF) Now of the Desktop: > tcpdump host www.lego.com User level filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket tcpdump: listening on eth0 15:46:58.791804 bumby.41055 > www.lego.com.http: S [ECN-Echo,CWR] 632915726:632915726(0) win 5840 (DF) 15:47:01.785164 bumby.41055 > www.lego.com.http: S [ECN-Echo,CWR] 632915726:632915726(0) win 5840 (DF) 15:47:07.784961 bumby.41055 > www.lego.com.http: S [ECN-Echo,CWR] 632915726:632915726(0) win 5840 (DF) 15:47:19.784555 bumby.41055 > www.lego.com.http: S [ECN-Echo,CWR] 632915726:632915726(0) win 5840 (DF) What's happening? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install ant package
Titus Barik schrieb: Hi, I'm running Debian testing. I'd like to install the ant package without installing Samble VM, as I am already using the Sun JDK 1.4 compiler. How can I accomplish this? Thanks in advance, what about using dpkg --force-depends, i think this one should help. see dpkg --force-help for more -- Bye Gregor Anders - eMail: Gregor Anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- KeyID: 0x7860C7DE http: http://twitty.homeip.net/homepage/ - not allways online key fingerprint: 7131 4011 6D79 5467 F073 BDA1 C55E 8584 7860 C7DE msg28005/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
I'm running kernel 2.2.20 and I have ide-scsi It is a loadable module. It should be visible as a file in /lib/modules//scsi/ide-scsi.o You don't need to move to kernel 2.4.x for this, but there may be other reasons to move that apply to you and not to me. If ide-scsi.o does not show up using locate, you need to learn more than I know about how to get it or generate it. The magic line in lilo in definitely append="hdc=ide-scsi" and not append="hdc=scsi" Paul Nicos Gollan wrote: On Saturday 01 February 2003 22:21, Thomas Nyman wrote: I tried to enable ide-scsi emulation but it doesnt work..there is no such module found. I installed woody basically with defaults...so I'm kind of lost as to what to do. The only thing I can think of right now is that you're running an old kernel that doesn't come with ide-scsi. If your kernel is a 2.2.x kernel, I'd suggest you upgrade to the 2.4.20 kernel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
install ant package
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supported hardware
Hello, Can anyone suggest a modem i should consider for installation on our woody 3.0_r1 boxes? Thanks, James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuration centralizing tool sought
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030201 17:51]: > Right. But I gave up on it when I fough 30 minutes this morning on > reading in a file formatted like this: > > \s+ > > with a while loop: > > while read user filename; do > echo "$user : $filename" > done < thefile > > this is supposed to work, but for whetever reason, it didn't this > morning, and would put everything into $user and leave $filename > blank. of course I checked $IFS. of course i did everything to debug. > i couldn't find the solution. so i gave up. Fair enough, and perl is very good at string and stream manipulation, but unfortunately it is not something I use, so cannot help you there, and I don't think you want to start mucking around in scheme code, just expanding the problem rather than solving it. > > i've learnt perl. it's just been too long and it would take me ages to > get back into it. i will, just not today. This I can commiserate with.:) > > and python: i am not going to use a language where the indentation of > a line is part of the syntax. i just won't. makes for nicely indented code.;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:11:51PM -0800, nate wrote: > Mike M said: > > > What email clients and browsers do you use? > > my mail client is squirrelmail(webmail). at work I started with > netscape 4 for mail then moved to mozilla once it got stable enough > for use. console email clients don't seem to have the features > I need. what do you want to do that mutt cant? hugH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.20-686 installation
Simon Tod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Setting up dash (0.4.1) ...
> dpkg: error processing dash (--configure):
> subprocess post-installation script returned error
> exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> dash
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
> (1)
The testing version has been broken for ages and won't be fixed until
glibc moves into it. You can work around it by doing
apt-get install dash
ln -sf dash /bin/sh
dpkg --configure dash
ln -sf bash /bin/sh
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Re: Root partition stuck in read-only mode.
Quoting Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:17:12PM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > I have some more info about my problem that might be useful. > > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:02 > ... > > Would this indicate a hardware problem? Or is there still hope > that > > this can be fixed with software? > > ...more likely your kernel doesn't know about SCSI disks, so > software. I've been booting up and running off of SCSI disks day in and day out for weeks on gthe same kernel, when I boot off the disk itself and not a boot floppy. This read-only problem only started a couple days ago, and I haven't changed my kernel in 3 weeks or so. So how could my kernel forget about SCSI disks when I create a boot floppy? I did it via mkboot and also via the "yard" suite. Same results each time. Is there something special I have to do to tell my kernel that there are SCSI disks at the time I make the boot floppy? -- Lloyd Zusman [EMAIL PROTECTED] God bless you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i2c and lm_sensors
karrottop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to get im_sensors running on my debian box, but I am getting > some opposition. First of all, I do have my kernel source, and it is > symlinked to /usr/src/linux. but for some reason when I go to where i2c > installed from apt get /usr/src/modules/i2c (or something to that > effect) and then run make all I get the following error. > -- > Makefile:175: kernel/i2c-philips-par.d: No such file or directory > make: *** No rule to make target > `/usr/local/include/linux/modversions.h', needed by > `kernel/i2c-pcf-epp.d'. Stop. > -- > does anyone know how I can remedy this? You built your kernel using 'make-kpkg', right? Having unpacked /usr/src/i2c.tar.gz, 'make-kpkg modules-image' will build a .deb package for the i2c kernel modules matching your kernel. If you didn't use kernel-package, you may or may not be happier using the upstream source. I believe if you happen to be using unstable, you can run 'debian/rules modules-nokpkg' to install modules directly in /lib/modules, and that this is documented in /usr/share/doc/i2c-source/README.Debian, but I'm a little confused as to what's in unstable and what's only on my machine. :-) There's an installation procedure for older versions documented in the same file, but I recall it not working particularly well. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh keys from two behind-the-firewall boxes?
sean finney said: > right, but if they're storing a passphraseless key on another machine to > which someone else has root, that someone else now has access to your > machine too. if that's your root key... yes thats a good point, forgot about that. I can't remember the last time I had access to another system and didn't have root on it so I guess it just didn't pop into my head. And of course I don't store my personal keys even on servers where another trusted person has access(e.g. my former company's servers, though I stored them on my desktop, to which nobody but I had root to and even then they were not passphrase-less, yeah I'm paranoid :) ). nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
Mike M said: > What email clients and browsers do you use? my primary browser is phoenix 0.5. I also make use of mozilla 1.0 and opera 6.11. usually to reduce the risk of lost data during browser crashes. my mail client is squirrelmail(webmail). at work I started with netscape 4 for mail then moved to mozilla once it got stable enough for use. console email clients don't seem to have the features I need. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
help please ! -> need PM1564U3 controller to run under 2.4.x kernel.......
Greetings and Appreciation, [to all who've recently assisted] I need to install said scsi controller but Adaptec has drivers [AFAIK] only for 2.2.x kernels. If you've determined how to succeed in this please point the way. BTW, I already have Tekram and DPT controllers running on this system and the BIOS does detect the PM1564U3 controller and connected drives. If this is impossible, is it possible that a kernel more recent than 2.4.17 would have such a driver and if yes, how can I find this to be so. Cordially, Courtney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
Be always sure you DON'T have compiled your kernel with the ATAPI CDROM support... once you have disabled this, and enabled SCSI support, SCSI emulation support your drive should be autodetected in /dev/scdX -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
On Saturday 01 February 2003 22:21, Thomas Nyman wrote: > I tried to enable ide-scsi emulation but it doesnt work..there is no such > module found. I installed woody basically with defaults...so I'm kind of > lost as to what to do. The only thing I can think of right now is that you're running an old kernel that doesn't come with ide-scsi. If your kernel is a 2.2.x kernel, I'd suggest you upgrade to the 2.4.20 kernel. -- Got Backup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
QT Libraries, help needed
Hi, I have problems with the QT libraries: I need to use a QT-based toolset built by some friends. It is build for qt3-mt and I got these packages: ii libqt3 3.0.3-20020329 Qt GUI Library (runtime version). ii libqt3-dev 3.0.3-20020329 Qt GUI development files ii libqt3-mt 3.0.3-20020329 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version). ii libqt3-mt-dev 3.0.3-20020329 Qt Threaded development files Compiling it with the right include and lib dirs gives a lot of out errors, just when the linker works with the -lqt-mt flag. On SuSE this toolset compiles and works perfectly, on Debian too. Anyhow I thought it was a devel-libs problem, so I asked for a binary, and running it outs: rage@Enterprise:/home/TM$ ./nxwtoolset ./nxwtoolset: relocation error: ./nxwtoolset: undefined symbol: _ZTI9QTextEdit rage@Enterprise:/home/TM$ I tried ALL libqt3 versions I found, since 3.0.3 to 3.1.1... all the same errors... It could be not a system problem because I had the same problem also before a complete reset of the system... I have many QT3-based programs running, like Sim ICQ for KDE3, and before the reset I had KDE3.1 perfectly running. But 1) gcc doesn't compile ANY qt-based program, like even tutorials O_O 2) the binary compiled on another system doesn't start... Thanks a lot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
On Saturday 01 February 2003 15:53, nate wrote: > Gary Turner said: > > I run X with icewm. No KDE or Gnome. What would be the advantage(s) of > > adding one of these facilities? > I used to use KDE back before it hit 1.0, used it for a year or 2, > up until ~1.1 or so maybe in early 1999 then I switched to afterstep, > and have been using it ever since. Even on my 1300mhz/768MB machine. > I've found I don't need the bells and whistles of a desktop enviornment, > though sometimes KDE is fun to play with(one reason why I keep SuSE > around, for playing, see how the apps work etc). What email clients and browsers do you use? -- Mike M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
Hmm... dunno if that =scsi part works. I've always used =ide-scsi. This loads the module for me automagically. The module should be (for 2.4 kernels) /lib/modules/2.4.??/kernel/drivers/scsi/ide-scsi.o If the module really isn't found, try installing the kernel-image appropriate for your system, it's a good idea anyway. You'll get some CPU opt's at the same time. hth, /johan Thomas Nyman wrote: Hi I tried to enable ide-scsi emulation but it doesnt work..there is no such module found. I installed woody basically with defaults...so I'm kind of lost as to what to do. --On lördag, februari 01, 2003 22.08.30 +0100 Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 01 February 2003 21:24, Thomas Nyman wrote: Am an old SuSEr that has just switched to Debian. Can someone give me a helping hand getting hy hdc cd-rom burner working with ide-scsi emulation You just have to use the kernel parameter "hdc=scsi" (add it to your append line in lilo.conf) and load the ide-scsi module. If you're running a custom kernel make sure you have SCSI generic support enabled either built-in or as a module. -- Got Backup? My GnuPG key id is 4DCAF083 Protect your right to privacy -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Windows? No... I don't think so." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Books
on Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 04:18:42PM -0800, Daniel L. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Anybody got some recommendations for Debian books - books that have good > coverage of Debian-specific topics like APT and MODCONF? The Debian project website documentation page: http://www.debian.org/doc/ In particular, the _User's Guide_, the _APT HOWTO_, and the _Debian Reference_. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? You can always tell the people that are forging the new frontier. They're the ones with arrows sticking out of their backs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shuttle disaster
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:56:04AM +1100, David Pastern wrote: > My deepest commiserations to the US, NASA and all families involved over the > space shuttle Columbia tragedy. I believe that they were using Debian GNU > Linux for the first time onboard the shuttle :-( i've been watching the live feed online most of the day... tragic for so many reasons, really. are you serious about debian on the shuttle? where could i find out more about that? sean msg27987/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Root partition stuck in read-only mode.
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:17:12PM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote: > I have some more info about my problem that might be useful. > > I booted up off of disk 1 of my Woody installation CDROM set. > My root partition is /dev/sda2, so I entered the following at > the "boot:" prompt ... > > rescue root=/dev/sda2 hm, SCSI disks... > However, this errored out quickly. I got a couple screens' ... > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:02 ... > Would this indicate a hardware problem? Or is there still hope that > this can be fixed with software? ...more likely your kernel doesn't know about SCSI disks, so software. -- groetjes, carel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh keys from two behind-the-firewall boxes?
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:57:08PM -0800, nate wrote: > will trillich said: > > > at what point are the passphrases required? if passwordless > > login/scp is the objective, where are the passphrases used? > > ssh-agent is designed to prompt you for your passphrase, then > it stores it in memory, and automatically 'inputs' it when you > connect. That is until you logout or reboot or something. I > have never used ssh-agent myself. for my personal account I > use SSH w/passphrase and just input it every time. I use > passphrase-less keys for mostly non interactive stuff. afaik ssh-agent stores the key in memory, not the passphrase (you never give ssh-agent the passphrase, that's from ssh-add). ssh-agent outputs some environment variables that can be inherited by child processes, and then you load in your key with ssh-add or ssh-askpass. all the child processes that get spawned from the process that launched ssh-agent inheret certain env variables that let them know how to communicate with the agent, that then provides the key-based authentication for connections. this process can further be forwarded onto another machine, and the real beauty of it is that on the remote machine nothing is stored other than a socket to talk back to the agent on the home machine. for example, this is in my .xsession, and lets me ssh without a password even though i have a passphrase on my key in any child process of my xsession (xterms, et c.): eval `ssh-agent` ssh-add .ssh/id_dsa running w/o a passphrase is still probably the most common > way to perform automated tasks. that is, stuff from cron etc. true. you can however limit what commands can be executed from authorizing with a specific key. it'd be neat to see some way someone could spawn off cron using ssh-agent, but it'd make boot-up require someone be at the console. > if the system is properly secured the chance of a key getting > compromised is not that great. that's no attitude to take towards security. > on my more secure systems I lock them down to key logins only, > so even if they have my root password or account password they > have no opportunity to input them. right, but if they're storing a passphraseless key on another machine to which someone else has root, that someone else now has access to your machine too. if that's your root key... sean msg27985/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Root partition stuck in read-only mode.
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:26:26PM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote: > Shawn Lamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... ... > > mount -o remount,rw / > > Well, that didn't work, either. Here's the error: > > EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option 0 > mount: / not mounted already, or bad option I think you used the number 0, but it should be the letter o! Hence the Unrecognized error message. Try again, but this time make sure you type -o (letter o) instead of -0 (number zero) -- groetjes, carel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
Hi I tried to enable ide-scsi emulation but it doesnt work..there is no such module found. I installed woody basically with defaults...so I'm kind of lost as to what to do. --On lördag, februari 01, 2003 22.08.30 +0100 Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 01 February 2003 21:24, Thomas Nyman wrote: Am an old SuSEr that has just switched to Debian. Can someone give me a helping hand getting hy hdc cd-rom burner working with ide-scsi emulation You just have to use the kernel parameter "hdc=scsi" (add it to your append line in lilo.conf) and load the ide-scsi module. If you're running a custom kernel make sure you have SCSI generic support enabled either built-in or as a module. -- Got Backup? My GnuPG key id is 4DCAF083 Protect your right to privacy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shuttle disaster
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:56:04 +1100, David Pastern wrote: > I believe that they were using Debian GNU Linux for the first time onboard > the shuttle :-( No, this time it was Red Hat; see http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-01-31-016-26-NW-RH-PB . Debian was used to control a hydroponics experiment on board of a shuttle back in 1997; see http://www.debian.org/News/1997/shuttle1 . Ray -- [...] computer source code, though unintelligible to many, is the preferred method of communication among computer programmers. http://pacer.ca6.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/getopn.pl?OPINION=00a0117p.06 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bad dynamic tag
I've had trouble booting since I installed woody a couple of months or so ago (kernel 2.2.20 #1), but things have become so bad recently that I'm hoping I might get some help from you kind folks. (I've found correspondence about such a problem in debian list archives, but no solution.) The key symptom seems to be a line Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion '! "bad dynamic tag"' failed! which can crop up several times during the boot process. It may be followed by segmentation faults in daemons trying start or "...respawning too fast" messages or a message to mount and fsck the partition or press Ctrl-D -- is that last one what you call "single user mode"? Can anyone suggest what might be wrong? There's no file called "dynamic-link.h" on my system, by the way. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
On Saturday 01 February 2003 21:24, Thomas Nyman wrote: > Am an old SuSEr that has just switched to Debian. Can someone give me a > helping hand getting hy hdc cd-rom burner working with ide-scsi emulation You just have to use the kernel parameter "hdc=scsi" (add it to your append line in lilo.conf) and load the ide-scsi module. If you're running a custom kernel make sure you have SCSI generic support enabled either built-in or as a module. -- Got Backup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh keys from two behind-the-firewall boxes?
will trillich said: > at what point are the passphrases required? if passwordless > login/scp is the objective, where are the passphrases used? ssh-agent is designed to prompt you for your passphrase, then it stores it in memory, and automatically 'inputs' it when you connect. That is until you logout or reboot or something. I have never used ssh-agent myself. for my personal account I use SSH w/passphrase and just input it every time. I use passphrase-less keys for mostly non interactive stuff. running w/o a passphrase is still probably the most common way to perform automated tasks. that is, stuff from cron etc. if the system is properly secured the chance of a key getting compromised is not that great. on my more secure systems I lock them down to key logins only, so even if they have my root password or account password they have no opportunity to input them. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?
Gary Turner said: > I run X with icewm. No KDE or Gnome. What would be the advantage(s) of > adding one of these facilities? a more integrated "experience". Generally a more consistant look & feel between the apps. File managers with a good deal of mime types configured so you can click/double click on a file and have it open in the default app. I used to use KDE back before it hit 1.0, used it for a year or 2, up until ~1.1 or so maybe in early 1999 then I switched to afterstep, and have been using it ever since. Even on my 1300mhz/768MB machine. I've found I don't need the bells and whistles of a desktop enviornment, though sometimes KDE is fun to play with(one reason why I keep SuSE around, for playing, see how the apps work etc). if your happy with icewm, stick to it, though nothing prevents you from installing KDE or GNOME or both(or both and others) alongside icwm and being able to switch between them(on the fly even). I do use KDM, thats the one thing I like about KDE, though I may be switching to GDM because it has the nice Xnest integration(gdmXnest I think it's called). nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: shuttle disaster
My deepest commiserations to the US, NASA and all families involved over the space shuttle Columbia tragedy. I believe that they were using Debian GNU Linux for the first time onboard the shuttle :-( Dave W Pastern -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: initrd -- what exactly is it?
I just want to thank everyone for all your explanations -- it's been very helpful! Moving on to newer problems now, but it's always great to have things explained to you! matt On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 05:34:59PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > "Matt" == Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matt> hi there, can someone help me figure out what exactly initrd > Matt> is, and why kernels use it? I have looked through the docs, > Matt> and I understand that it's thefile used for an initial > Matt> ramdisk in some cases, but I don't understand why it would > Matt> be used in some cases and not in others. So for inst ance, > Matt> the demudi kernel I just installed seems to demand the use > Matt> of initrd, and I take it GRUB needs an anitrd argument to > Matt> load the kernel. But why don't my own self-compiled kernels > Matt> require an initrd argument at boot (nor have an initrd file > Matt> anywhere in /boot, as far as I can tell)? > > I'm not expert on this, but here goes anyway: the initrd image is, > like you point out, a ramdisk image that common Linux bootloaders > (lilo, grub, ) can load off a wide variety of file systems. > > There is no real need to use initrd for personal use. If you know > exactly what you need in your kernel, just build it in. (well, > personally, I never build a kernel unless my hardware requires it, the > pre-packaged Debian kernels are wonderful bits of art :-) > > Initrd gets to be very useful when you try to build a kernel that will > be used in a wide variety of environments. You don't want to build > everything into the kernel, but at the same time you are not sure what > might be required to boot a system up and find the rest of the system. > > In that case you build a small kernel with what you know everyone will > absolutely need. Then you throw a lot of stuff that will satisfy a > large variety of systems into the intird image. The initrd ram disk is > used to bootstrap the kernel: basically you boot the kernel, mout the > initrd image, which pokes around and loads modules it figures that > specific system needs to find the rest of the hardware (e.g. it needs > ext3 or rieserfs file system support for the root partition or some > such thing), then mounts the root file system and goes on with the > usual initialization. > > The advantage is of this approach is, for example, that if you don't > use ext3 you will not find ext3 in your memory. But if you use ext3 > you can still boot the system even though ext3 is not built into the > kernel (because it is in the initrd image). > > You can use 'mount -t cramfs -o loop /mnt intrd.img.file.path' to look > into an initrd image. You will find it quite instructive I'm sure. > > Cheers! > Shyamal > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building an IMAP server
[OP] >> + Users may be real users on the server. --- Are there good reasons >> against this? On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:07:41PM -, Colin Ellis wrote: > I'm not sure why you feel the need to create user accounts on the machine > itself. It seems a bit of a security nightmare to me. Vmailmgr allows you > virtual accounts sitting under a domain master account. This will allow > your machine to be secure and you to have control over access passwords. smtp mail users don't need to be real users; you can (in theory -- i'm still working on it) have exim pull authentican info from sources other than /etc/passwd (which is the user-definition file on *nix systems). but if you're going to have some that are both shell users and smtp senders, separate-authentication files could get hairy. not sure which approach would be best. -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #38 from Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Curious about your NETWORK TRAFFIC? There's a whole bunch of ways to monitor it: iptraf, showtraf, netwatch, tcpview, statnet, or even tcpdump | grep 'what you want to see' lsof -i | grep 'LISTEN' For network statistics try "mrtg". See the ethernet section over at http://www.Linux-Sec.net/ Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice 1.0.2 font ugliness
> > Well, 'exceeding ugly' is quite a subjective statement so I can't be sure > what you see. Perhaps you are talking about the fact that we reverted back > to the internal libfreetype used in OOo instead of the Debian version, due > to many problems experienced by users? This is documented in the > changelog. ... maybe I exagerrate. Would a screenshot help? I guess the main thing is, that I was disappoiinted to go back to ugly fonts after having (somehow, in a way I don't remember) enabled quite nice-looking fonts in OOo 1.0.1. In the current setup, for instance, it's rather difficult to tekll the difference between bold and normal faces, which is fine in many instances, but not when I'm copyediting! anyway, thanks for the hint, I'll probably justw ait around for your fix and see if that helps things. best, matt > We are testing a fix to this problem so I hope to be able to re-enable the > newer version again soon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
