SB Audigy

2003-07-03 Thread James LeClair
Well, after fussing with the upgrade from SB ISA 16 sound to SB PCI Audigy
I finally have sound in Woody again. Used this walkthrough as a "rough" 
guide. Hope it helps someone else!  
http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=541&page=1


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Re: documentation was Re: Worked around (dirty...)

2003-07-03 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 01:16, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:06:57PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> > Basically the submission process for the LDP goes like this:
> 
> I forgot step zero: subscribe to the discuss mailing list. Which is where
> you present the idea you're thinking about writing and where you get your
> feedback from. Putting your idea on the list helps others determine
> overlap with existings (or upcoming) documents.
> 

thankx for the info. Will pass it on.
=Kev


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Re: Debian and S3 ProsavageDDR KM 266

2003-07-03 Thread Jacob Anawalt
A month ago I had debian stable (woody) installed on my XPC which has 
the ProSavageDDR (savage8) onboard with the via chipset. I used apt 
pinning to get the unstable XFree86 4.2 (seems like that's in testing 
now) package xserver-xfree86. I combined that with the savage driver 
debian package by Tim Roberts (http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html) 
and I was a pretty happy 2d X windows user.

According to Tim's site, there still isn't any DRI/OpenGL/Mesa support 
in the driver. Maybe us Via chipset purchasers can send enough email to 
Via to convince them there's a good market out there for 3d graphics on 
X. My only issue with this process was that XFree86 4.2 that was in 
unstable depended on a whole new glibc version, so the apt-get installed 
the new glibc and removed all of my development tools.  X worked like a 
champ, there was no pain in configuring the savage driver, and it seemed 
that I could do 24 bit color at 1024x768 (and possibly higher, I didn't 
try.) I did have bios set to allocate 64MB of RAM to the ProSavageDDR chip.

Since then I've reinstalled from scratch to testing (Sarge) and am 
borrowing an ATI Radeon... Best of luck.

Jacob Anawalt

Rodney D. Myers wrote:

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:55:14 -0500
Julian Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 04:04:00PM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
   

It 'should' work. My new motherboard has ProSavageDDR. I had to use
Knoppix, to get it identified, but it's working like a champ.
 

Hi!

Can  you tell me what xfree86 driver work for you?

Thanks in advance.

Julián Hernández Gómez

   

As an added note. Installing debian proper, I could not get the display
using 24bits, but using 16bits.
Good luck

 





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Woody KDE 3 packages

2003-07-03 Thread Shaun Jackman
I'm using the following APT line
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian stable main

When I update, the Release file is ignored by apt-get. Why is this? 
Also, I can't seem to upgrade or install the new packages. What have 
I done wrong here?

Please cc me in your reply.
Thanks,
Shaun


# apt-get update
Hit http://download.kde.org woody/main Packages
Ign http://download.kde.org woody/main Release
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not 
upgraded.
# apt-get install kdebase kdm
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, kdebase is already the newest version.
Sorry, kdm is already the newest version.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not 
upgraded.


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finding an iso for net-install w/ reiserfs disk support

2003-07-03 Thread Justin Bauer
I'm setting up a new computer, and thought it would be nice to use a minimal
cd rather than the normal disks.  I'll be running sid, but I don't care
whether the cd is for stable or testing, just as long as it will
format/install onto reiserfs.


Thanks,

Justin


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Re: debian popularity contest mail bounce

2003-07-03 Thread Joey Hess
Colin Watson wrote:
> Configure your mailer to send out mail with real addresses that can be
> mailed by the rest of the world. If necessary, send mail through a
> properly configured smarthost. This is a generally good thing, not
> something in any way unique to popularity-contest.

Except of course that Debian really wants both popcon info and bug
reports even if the sender's MTA is broken, and we host them both on a
machine that is very locked down in the mail it accepts..

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Re: new debian box reboots itself?

2003-07-03 Thread Joey Hess
i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>   ok, color me confused. my new machine (which is not primary yet)
> rebooted by itself tuesday morning around 3:50am. it was a software
> reboot, as it came back up cleanly by itself - i found it later that
> afternoon sitting at the x login screen, when i always leave it logged in
> at a commandline terminal. the box is running 3.0r1 & is not on any
> network.
> 
>   syslog tells me WHEN it rebooted, but not WHY. is there something
> magical in new debian that makes the machine REBOOT by ITSELF? does anyone
> have any idea what the hell happened?
> 
>   it certainly wasn't hardware, as the new box & my current primary
> are plugged into the same UPS & there was no problem with this machine. i,
> as always, weep for lost uptimes. thanks for any help.

Was it a clean or an unclean reboot? If you have "reboot" in the lastlog,
it was a clean reboot. That might be caused by something like watchdog,
or something else that got it into its head to reboot the machine.
You're right that programs that do that are fairly rare; AFAIK there are
none in a default install.

If it was an unclean reboot, you're left with the possibilties that
either the kernel decided to reboot the system, or it just spontaneously
reset itself due to a hardware issue. These will show up in the lastlog
as "down", "crash" and the like.

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Re: suggestions for a good MTA?

2003-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 05:44:47PM -0700, Tom Anderson wrote:
| I need some suggestions on a good MTA for a workstation.  Here's what
| I'd like for it to be able to handle.

postfix.
exim.

Take your pick.

| The hard part seems to be selective rewriting.

| or rewrite no matter what (exim, etc.).

I guess you didn't read the spec and write the rewrite rule the way
you want it.  Go ahead and read the config file, then read the spec,
then look at the config file again.  You'll see that exim rewrites
only and everything that you tell it to.

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Re: suggestions for a good MTA?

2003-07-03 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Tom" == Tom Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Tom> I need some suggestions on a good MTA for a workstation.
Tom> Here's what I'd like for it to be able to handle.

Tom> 1. Immediate delivery of local mail (messages from daemons,
Tom> etc)... in other words I'd like to avoid shipping it off to
Tom> my ISP, since I'm just going to turn around and re-fetch it.
Tom> No address rewriting should occur in this case, because that
Tom> makes it harder to see "at a glance" that it was local.

Tom> 2. Forward outgoing mail to a smarthost, after rewriting the
Tom> addresses as appropriate.

Tom> The hard part seems to be selective rewriting.  Everything
Tom> I've looked at seems to either want to forward everything
Tom> (nullmailer), or rewrite no matter what (exim, etc.).  Is
Tom> there anything which can handle this?

I'm not sure I understand the problem you found with exim. The default
Debian Woody install of exim with the 'smarthost' option seems to do
exactly what you list above as (1) and (2). So what does 'rewrite no
matter what' imply here?

Cheers!
Shyamal


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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-03 Thread Todd Pytel
I don't see exactly what the fuss is.  Fonts are fine for me - I do 
remember previous updates (maybe a month ago) in testing breaking them
momentarily, however, so this may not be a GNOME issue.  As for the rest
of the GNOME2 packages, they're just not here yet - deal with it.  I
backed up my sources.list, changed it to unstable, did an apt-get
update, apt-get install gnome-core, and then restored the old
sources.list.  Works fine.  Nautilus 2 is worlds faster than the
original, fonts are nice, everything is anti-aliased, blah, blah,
blah...  If you're absolutely opposed to any unstable packages, then I
guess you're screwed.  That's what you get for running testing.

--Todd

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:17:46 -0600
"John W. M. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I upgraded from stable to testing, in order to be able to start using
> Gnome2, only to find that there was no good way to get a complete,
> usable Gnome2 installation.
> 
> Many things are broken, including:
> 
> 1) Fonts.  They are really ugly, and it seems that the previous
>defaults were just ignored.
> 
> 2) The Gnome Settings Daemon was not installed, and it repeatedly
>complains about that lack.  I can't find any package that indicates
>that it might contain this semi-mythical daemon.
> 
> 3) It seems impossible to figure out what will conflict with what,
>without actually trying just about every combination.  Incompatible
>packages are all stuffed into the gnome section, with no clue as
>to what packages should be installed to get a reasonably complete
>Gnome2 installation.  I seem to have installed, and uninstalled,
>parts of both Gnome and Gnome2 several times now.
> 
>There was rumour of a gnome2 meta package.  It doesn't seem to
>actually exist.  Perhaps it's only in experimental?
> 
> 4) There SHOULD be a way to run both Gnome and Gnome2 on the same
>machine, as the major number of the libraries is different, but
>the packages seem to be configured in such a way as to insist
>that these are incompatible.
> 
>Yes, this will eat up more memory (both library versions must
>be resident at the same time), but if Gnome2 in testing simply
>isn't yet complete, then I really have no choice.
> 
> Is there any documentation on how, using testing, to get the most
> complete (applets, to, please!) Gnome2 installation possible?
> 
> Please, no suggestion about "pinning" anything, as there doesn't
> seem to be any documentation or man pages about what that is, or
> how to do that, either.
> 
> Thanks,
> John S.
> 
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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-03 Thread Jacob Anawalt
John,

I installed straight to testing (but using a stable netinstall CD) a 
couple months ago. When gnome2 into was released into it from unstable a 
couple weeks ago I ran into similar issues. I am looking forward to 
watching this thread to see what the expert insight to this is. My 
opinion is that Gnome2 'works' but it doesn't 'work right'. Isn't that 
what testing is for though? To test for bugs that aren't critical and 
prepare for the next stable version that does 'work right'. There are 
gnome2 version packages that are still in held up in unstable that I 
think maybe should have held up the whole gnome2 upgrade, but I don't 
know that much about the details to make this statment as anything more 
than a personal opinion.

Here is a link about ideas for moving debian to gnome2, but I didn't get 
a good feeling of resolution:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=154950

I also get the error message from the gnome settings daemon. I think 
it's due to nautilus being gnome and not the gnome2 version. The gnome2 
version of nautilus seems to be held back in unstable with some 
automated build errors.

I also have some interestingly scaled and rendered fonts in some 
applications. On this page 
(http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/testing/2003/05/msg00058.html) 
there is mention of the local affecting fonts. I should check my local. 
I dont remember which I chose, other than knowing it wasn't 'C'.

I haven't run across any applets not working, and my gnome-panel 
v2.2.2-1 seems to be running ok (with the exception of trying to launch 
terminal based apps with gnome-terminal which is also missing in 
testing, held up in unstable with autobuild issues.)

Jacob Anawalt

John W. M. Stevens wrote:

Hello,

I upgraded from stable to testing, in order to be able to start using
Gnome2, only to find that there was no good way to get a complete,
usable Gnome2 installation.
Many things are broken, including:

1) Fonts.  They are really ugly, and it seems that the previous
  defaults were just ignored.
2) The Gnome Settings Daemon was not installed, and it repeatedly
  complains about that lack.  I can't find any package that indicates
  that it might contain this semi-mythical daemon.
3) It seems impossible to figure out what will conflict with what,
  without actually trying just about every combination.  Incompatible
  packages are all stuffed into the gnome section, with no clue as
  to what packages should be installed to get a reasonably complete
  Gnome2 installation.  I seem to have installed, and uninstalled,
  parts of both Gnome and Gnome2 several times now.
  There was rumour of a gnome2 meta package.  It doesn't seem to
  actually exist.  Perhaps it's only in experimental?
4) There SHOULD be a way to run both Gnome and Gnome2 on the same
  machine, as the major number of the libraries is different, but
  the packages seem to be configured in such a way as to insist
  that these are incompatible.
  Yes, this will eat up more memory (both library versions must
  be resident at the same time), but if Gnome2 in testing simply
  isn't yet complete, then I really have no choice.
Is there any documentation on how, using testing, to get the most
complete (applets, to, please!) Gnome2 installation possible?
Please, no suggestion about "pinning" anything, as there doesn't
seem to be any documentation or man pages about what that is, or
how to do that, either.
Thanks,
John S.
 





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Nagios cgi login fails

2003-07-03 Thread Dale Miller
I am trying to confgiure nagios and get it working and
am having problems at the login to get to the main
page. I am using the unstable distribution. The
following are the versions of the packages I am using.

apache 1.3.27.0-2
nagios-mysql 1.1-1
mysql 

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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-03 Thread Michael Heironimus
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 08:17:46PM -0600, John W. M. Stevens wrote:
> I upgraded from stable to testing, in order to be able to start using
> Gnome2, only to find that there was no good way to get a complete,
> usable Gnome2 installation.

"Oops." GNOME in testing seems to be in very poor shape right now.
Things are halfway migrated from 1 to 2. You can get a usable GNOME2
desktop (well, as usable as GNOME2 ever manages to be), but not a
complete one.
> 
> 1) Fonts.  They are really ugly, and it seems that the previous
>defaults were just ignored.

GNOME 2 (well, GTK2) uses a different font configuration back-end. When
I tried to sort through that on other systems with GNOME2 I found that
the documentation is so shamefully poor that all I could do was search
the web and look at other people's solutions. Is anybody keeping score
on how many different and unrelated font configuration systems we have
now?

> 2) The Gnome Settings Daemon was not installed, and it repeatedly
>complains about that lack.  I can't find any package that indicates
>that it might contain this semi-mythical daemon.

I think that's because you need the GNOME Control Center, and that
hasn't made it in to testing yet. Core pieces of GNOME2 haven't been
moved from unstable to testing, while other pieces have.

> 3) It seems impossible to figure out what will conflict with what,
>without actually trying just about every combination.  Incompatible
>packages are all stuffed into the gnome section, with no clue as
>to what packages should be installed to get a reasonably complete
>Gnome2 installation.  I seem to have installed, and uninstalled,
>parts of both Gnome and Gnome2 several times now.
> 
>There was rumour of a gnome2 meta package.  It doesn't seem to
>actually exist.  Perhaps it's only in experimental?

Probably. If there were such a thing in testing you couldn't possibly
install it because not all of the dependencies exist. At a minimum, it
would need to pull in the Control Center and GNOME-Terminal, neither of
which seems to be in testing yet.

> 4) There SHOULD be a way to run both Gnome and Gnome2 on the same
>machine, as the major number of the libraries is different, but
>the packages seem to be configured in such a way as to insist
>that these are incompatible.
> 
>Yes, this will eat up more memory (both library versions must
>be resident at the same time), but if Gnome2 in testing simply
>isn't yet complete, then I really have no choice.

I'm not sure that GNOME 1 and 2 could easily coexist even if the
packages did allow it. They have different pieces of infrastructure, and
GNOME applications tend to start up any infrastructure they need that
isn't already running. And then they leave it running when they exit.

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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-03 Thread Oki DZ
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 09:17, John W. M. Stevens wrote:
> I upgraded from stable to testing, in order to be able to start using
> Gnome2, only to find that there was no good way to get a complete,
> usable Gnome2 installation.

Try to get to Sid; I think Sid's Gnome is much better.

> 1) Fonts.  They are really ugly, and it seems that the previous
>defaults were just ignored.

I use ttf-freefont for the fonts and xfs-xtt for the font server.
TrueType fonts are good on Gnome2.

> 3) It seems impossible to figure out what will conflict with what,
>without actually trying just about every combination.  Incompatible
>packages are all stuffed into the gnome section, 

I believe that's because you use testing, which has mixed Gnomes inside.

> 4) There SHOULD be a way to run both Gnome and Gnome2 on the same
>machine, 

With some costs, maybe.

Oki



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Re: Change Apt source

2003-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:49:29PM -0500, Abrasive wrote:
> I FINALLY got my NIC to work properly.  Now, how do I change the apt
> sources so that my Debian box will look on the web for new packages
> and the like?  And also security updates?

Look at /etc/apt/sources.list.

> Or is it easier to just find them and download them manually?

Well, ask any Red Hat user how much they like this system.  Duck fast
after you do it.  8:o)

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Re: sound support

2003-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:44:59AM -0300, james leclair wrote:
> much probs. Now, since upgrading to a SB Audigy, I just cant seem to get it 
> working. Does anyone know of a good site for tutorial/walkthrough to help 

Should be a matter of editing /etc/modules and replacing the line
reading sb with the correct module for your audigy.

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Re: From header in Tin

2003-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:44:55AM +0200, Wim wrote:
> I'm using the newsreader-client Tin (1.5.12) and when I reply or 
> follow-up a posting, the From header reads: Debian User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> In ~/.tin/attributes I filled in my e-mail address in the 'from' field, 
> but that doesn't help.

Try setting it in the options menu in tin.  You might also consider
doing a su -c chfn  at some point to change your full
name so all your programs don't think your name is Debian User.

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HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-03 Thread John W. M. Stevens
Hello,

I upgraded from stable to testing, in order to be able to start using
Gnome2, only to find that there was no good way to get a complete,
usable Gnome2 installation.

Many things are broken, including:

1) Fonts.  They are really ugly, and it seems that the previous
   defaults were just ignored.

2) The Gnome Settings Daemon was not installed, and it repeatedly
   complains about that lack.  I can't find any package that indicates
   that it might contain this semi-mythical daemon.

3) It seems impossible to figure out what will conflict with what,
   without actually trying just about every combination.  Incompatible
   packages are all stuffed into the gnome section, with no clue as
   to what packages should be installed to get a reasonably complete
   Gnome2 installation.  I seem to have installed, and uninstalled,
   parts of both Gnome and Gnome2 several times now.

   There was rumour of a gnome2 meta package.  It doesn't seem to
   actually exist.  Perhaps it's only in experimental?

4) There SHOULD be a way to run both Gnome and Gnome2 on the same
   machine, as the major number of the libraries is different, but
   the packages seem to be configured in such a way as to insist
   that these are incompatible.

   Yes, this will eat up more memory (both library versions must
   be resident at the same time), but if Gnome2 in testing simply
   isn't yet complete, then I really have no choice.

Is there any documentation on how, using testing, to get the most
complete (applets, to, please!) Gnome2 installation possible?

Please, no suggestion about "pinning" anything, as there doesn't
seem to be any documentation or man pages about what that is, or
how to do that, either.

Thanks,
John S.


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Re: suggestions for a good MTA?

2003-07-03 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 05:44:47PM -0700, Tom Anderson wrote:
> The hard part seems to be selective rewriting.  Everything I've looked
> at seems to either want to forward everything (nullmailer), or rewrite
> no matter what (exim, etc.).  Is there anything which can handle this?

Sure.  Exim.  The smarthost choice in eximconfig does what you want.  Make
sure you set exim's idea of "local" properly so that it knows when to
deliver locally and when to re-write and send on to the smarthost.

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Re: xterm configuration

2003-07-03 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:40:55AM +0100, Paladin wrote:
> How do I configure xterm/Eterm so that it uses a font that can
> display ncurses frames?

For xterm, use one of the fixed fonts.  They all have the line-drawing
characters.  If you're running xterm AA'd, you're SOL unless you're up to
building it yourself.  You have to have at least patchlevel 175 of xterm to
support line-drawing with AA'd fonts.  Not that xterm is hard to build
outside of XFree itself

For Eterm, using the same fixed font would suffice.  I have no idea at all
if Eterm supports AA's fonts or what it does to simulate line-drawing with
them if it does.

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Re: sound support

2003-07-03 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:44:59AM -0300, james leclair wrote:
> Now, since upgrading to a SB Audigy, I just cant seem to get it working.
> Does anyone know of a good site for tutorial/walkthrough to help out with
> this.

The kernel doesn't support the Audigy.  You need to use the SourceForge
driver.

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suggestions for a good MTA?

2003-07-03 Thread Tom Anderson
I need some suggestions on a good MTA for a workstation.  Here's what
I'd like for it to be able to handle.

1. Immediate delivery of local mail (messages from daemons, etc)... in
other words I'd like to avoid shipping it off to my ISP, since I'm just
going to turn around and re-fetch it.  No address rewriting should
occur in this case, because that makes it harder to see "at a glance"
that it was local.

2. Forward outgoing mail to a smarthost, after rewriting the addresses
as appropriate.

The hard part seems to be selective rewriting.  Everything I've looked
at seems to either want to forward everything (nullmailer), or rewrite
no matter what (exim, etc.).  Is there anything which can handle this?

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xterm configuration

2003-07-03 Thread Paladin
Hi,

How do I configure xterm/Eterm so that it uses a font that can
display ncurses frames?

Thanks,

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Woody install problem

2003-07-03 Thread Stefan Platamone
Hi, I'm a newb trying to install "woody" off of a CD I
downloaded from the web.

After booting from the CD, things start off fine until
the "Partition check:"- where I see
  hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
  hdd:hdd: lost interrupt
 
//followed by repeating
 
 'hdd: lost interrupt'
 
By suggestion, I unplugged the network card in an
attempt to avoid any IRQ conflict, but still had the
same response (all PCI slots were open).

-333 MHz Celeron
-128MB Ram 
-on board sound and video
It's a dell mobo and it's running win98 with 4GB IDE
HD with 3 partitions (but I want Debian on it!)

I didn't find any solutions by searching 'hdd: lost
interrupt' on Google...

Thank you for your consideration.

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Re: Repartitioned, now can't mount root

2003-07-03 Thread Ryan Heise
Here are more details about exactly what I did:

On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:00:38AM -0400, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> It sounds like you had an installed system, with files in /boot and /,
> and now it's all one big partition.  How did you go about consolidating
> the two partitions?

I temporarily moved my files to another computer, then repartitioned
(with disk druid maybe - I forget) losing my filesystem. The debian
installer warned me about large disks, and I proceeded with making the
largest root partition that could fit on my disk.

I then installed debian on a newly created filesystem, then moved all
my old files back from the other computer.

I upgraded the kernel once, re-ran lilo, and rebooted successfully
before since then. I have a theory that at that time, there were not
many files on the disk so the kernel was placed somewhere near the
beginning which was reachable by lilo.

Since then I think what happened is that I upgraded the kernel once
more, but left the computer running. I haven't rebooted in 3 weeks, so I
never tested the new kernel in normal circumstances. Two days ago, I
accidentally removed the power cord. I don't believe there was any disk
activity at the time.

>From memory, I installed the new kernel in /boot, and made symlinks in /

> Where do you expect Lilo to find the boot files?  It's looking for a
> partition that isn't there.  You have in your mind the idea of a
> partition that contains files, but Lilo is looking for a specific
> parition identifier on the disk structure, expecting specific files and
> they aren't there anymore.  They may still be there somewhere, but
> they're not where they were.

I have booted successfully from this partition before (after I
repartitioned). It still shows up when I list the partition table.
However, I can't even seem to mount it from the command line.

> Lilo is also looking for a specific numbered partition to load DOS.  Did
> you change the numbering when you turned your two partitions into one? 
> What is Lilo looking for?

I left the DOS partition in place, without resizing or moving it.
Unfortunately, I forgot to tell lilo about it.

> When you "failed to mount" what command line or arguments did
> you use?  What's "-t XXX", etc.?

I didn't use -t, just:

mount /dev/hda1 root

It is (was?) an ext3 filesystem.

Thanks for your help!

Ryan


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Re: Intel D875PBZ or MSI 87P NEO-FIS2R

2003-07-03 Thread Nick Lidakis
Michael Epting wrote:

On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:18:52PM -0500, Nick Lidakis wrote:
 

They were using a 2.4.20 kernel or a pre 2.4.21 kernel IIRC. I plan on 
using it with PATA drives, so I can't offer any advice on SATA.  I 
prefer the Intel board cause it lacks all the bells and whistles other 
manufactures insist on cramming onto their boards. The board even lacks 
on board sound, but most people end up using their own sound card 
anyways. I'll let you know how my Debian install gose as soon as I get it.
   

Please post to the list, so that we can all benefit from your
experiment.  Information on new motherboards is really hard to come by.
 

I thought I did.

Test.

Testes one two. Testes one two three.

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Re: compiling lufs

2003-07-03 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 21:20:11 +0200, Ken Bloom wrote:

> I've also tried from the kernel source directory (Adding
> --append-to-version) but the module has unresolved symbols when I run
> depmod.

I get unresolved symbols here, too. Other modules work fine (ALSA, LIRC,
NVIDIA). IMHO this is a bug in lufs or the Debian packaging of it, but I
didn't investigate :-)

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Re: HI Liunx Help ??

2003-07-03 Thread Mark Roach
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 17:09, RCN wrote:
> I installed Debian woddy via the net using DHCP for my network configuration
> and a cable modem however I wasn't able to specify the domain name for the
> system.. I already have a registered domain name .I'm pretty new to
> this so as you can tell I'm stomped. I'm trying to host a small site on the
> box however I can get bind to configure and I'm thinking it's because the
> system doesn't know it domain name I do get a return for hostname

OK, let's take this step by step here:

#1 does your system successfully acquire an ip address using dhcp?

run ifconfig and check for an ip address.

#2 do you actually need to be running bind? If so, why? what are you
trying to accomplish with it?

> however..Along with that I'm trying to host mail for the site and
> I've found that with the exim configuration option 1 c(internet site ) my
> mail is delivered only locally . I'm trying to get this this to send out
> nail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I know I have to give the nameservers to my
> registrar but can you point me in the right direction as far as what I so be
> doing on my end 

#3 Sending mail has nothing to do with your name server registration.
Try running "eximconfig" as root, choose option 1, for you "visible"
mail name, put your domain name. Leave the next two options at their
defaults, and put your username for the administrator account. Leave the
remaining options with their default values. Now you should be able to
send mail.

#4 receiving mail. Your system should be ready to receive mail, all you
need to do is set up an MX record with your DNS host pointing to your
machine's ip address. Since you are on a dynamic ip address, this will
probably mean using one of the dynamic dns providers. Check out
www.zoneedit.com for more info.

Hopefully that will point you in the right direction. In the future you
might want to try condensing your messages into short, succinct
descriptions of one problem at a time instead of lumping it all
together.

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Re: apache

2003-07-03 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Michael" == Michael Wordehoff  writes:

Michael> 1) apache started from inetd ?

Michael> I thought it's not neccessary to have it listen all the
Michael> time.  So i removed the rc symlink, and configured:


I believe this is a truly bad idea. You really do want apache to run
all the time. It is designed to work optimally in that fashion. You
are paying a tremendous cost starting Apache every time. Heck, I'm
actually surprised it even works at all (does it?).


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Re: Where to set moz GUI font?

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew Schulman
Subject: Re: Where to set moz GUI font?
From: Andrew E. Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> QUESTION: with Moz's Edit, Preferences, Appearance, Fonts the
> font(s) of Moz´s *content* can be set. But where can the *GUI*
> font be set (and fixed against the effects of upgrades)?

In ~/.mozilla/default/*/chrome/userChrome.css, I put

* {
  font-size: 8pt !important;
  font-family: Tahoma !important;
}

to get 8pt Tahoma fonts throughout the Moz UI.

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Re: Network issue with WOODY

2003-07-03 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Robert" == Robert Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Robert> Hi all, I tried searching the archives with no luck. I
Robert> have a standard load of Debian running and am constantly
Robert> having problems with the network not responding when
Robert> trying to connect to the box. No matter waht I try to hit,
Robert> smtp ssh web, it will not respond unless I try and
Robert> re-connect many times. Once on of the ports accepts a
Robert> copnnection the rest start working also. It is almost like
Robert> the NIC is going to sleep.

Do you  have trouble connecting *from* the box? If not, then the NIC
is probably not going to sleep.

What kind of network do you have. The symptoms you list typically
indicate a network problem. What error do you get when you try to
connect? Does it hang? Does it reject the connection? If you wait a
long time does the connection work out? 

Is your system doing some sort of reverse DNS lookup? Make sure your
/etc/hosts file is good, and /etc/resolv.conf has hosts before bind.

I hope this gives you a couple of straws to clutch on. More
details would help us help you.

Cheers!
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Re: apache

2003-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 11:25:29PM +0200, mi wrote:

| Now it seems the server is terminated immediateley after every single request 
| from a broser,
| thus for every request newly started from inetd.
| In other words, a ps aux doesn't show any apache though browser can open 
| localhost:80.
| Is this the behavior 'normal' with inetd, or misconfigured sth ?

Yes.  That's what inetd is for.  That is how it is supposed to work.
Obviously that's a tradeoff, and for site that needs higher throughput
on those services they shouldn't be using inetd.

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Re: sound support

2003-07-03 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 18:30:16 +0200, james leclair wrote:

> Now, since upgrading to a SB Audigy, I just cant seem to get it working.

I don't have a tutorial at hand, but just look around you. The Audigies
and their problems are discussed quite often on this list.

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Re: How to have 'apt-get clean' automatically after apt-get install?

2003-07-03 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote:

> [20030703] Bruce Sass ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> >
> > script it
<...>
> Thanx alot. I was thinking doing it via a script, however I
> was searching for an apt option to put in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
> Is there any such option ?

Not that I am aware of.

I want a `clean all but the last two versions' command/option,
but not bad enough to write one.


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ddtp [SCRIPT]: merging translations with english package description files

2003-07-03 Thread Jens Seidel
Hi all,

I wrote a small script which simplifies the usage of translated package 
descriptions. Please see the comments in it for details.

Feel free to use and distribute it.

PS: Please CC me, as I'm not subscribed to this list.

#!/bin/sh

# Copyright 2003 Jens Seidel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# License: GPL v2 or higher (at your opinion)

# This script inserts (in most cases translated) package descriptions 
from the
# first file into the second and writes the result to stdout.

# This is more useful than
#   http://ddtp.debian.org/aptable de/unstable main
# at the beginning of /etc/apt/sources.list, because APT doesn't try to 
fetch
# files (which may be more up to date) from ddtp.debian.org/ but uses the 
local
# ones.

# Package files can be found in /var/lib/apt/lists/.

# Application: Assume translated package files can be found in
# ~/dists/de/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages:
#
# cd /var/lib/apt/lists
# for i in $(ls *Packages); do
#  mv $i /tmp
#  change-pkg-description ~/dists/de/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages 
/tmp/$i > $i
# done 

f=$1

if [ $# -ne 2 ]; then
  echo "$0 usage: $(basename $0) i18nfile packagefile"
  echo "This script replaces the package descriptions in packagefile with 
the"
  echo "corresponding strings from i18nfile (they must exist) and writes 
the"
  echo "output to stdout."
  echo "This is useful to translate package descriptions even if the 
versions of both"
  echo "files does not match."
fi

if [ $1 = $2 ]; then
  echo "Argumnts must be different."
  exit 1
fi

gawk -F"\n" '
  # start of text
  /^Description: / { 
copyText=1;lines=0
if (FILENAME!="'$f'") print description[package]
  }
  /^Package: / { copyText=0 }
  { if (copyText && FILENAME=="'$f'") text[++lines]=$0 } 
  { if (!copyText && FILENAME!="'$f'") print $0 }
  /^Package: / {
if (FILENAME=="'$f'" && lines>0)
  for (i=1;i<=lines;i++)
description[package]=description[package] text[i] "\n"
package=substr($0,10)
  }
  END {
if (FILENAME=="'$f'")
  for (i=1;i<=lines-1;i++)
description[package]=description[package] text[i] "\n"
  }
' $1 $2


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apache

2003-07-03 Thread mi
Hello debian people !

I am a happy user of woody 3.0.1.
I tried to set up apache for local use (to read dhelp and info2www and to 
learn more about networking).

After installation, it worked fine. However, i face two mysteries:

1) apache started from inetd ?

I thought it's not neccessary to have it listen all the time.
So i removed the rc symlink, and configured:

# /etc/inetd.conf:
www stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/apache

# hosts.allow:
www: LOCAL, piro.pironic, piro2000.winlan   /usr/sbin/apache
(occasionally connected with a laptop)

# hosts.deny:
 ---


Now it seems the server is terminated immediateley after every single request 
from a broser, thus for every request newly started from inetd.
In other words, a ps aux doesn't show any apache though browser can open 
localhost:80.
Is this the behavior 'normal' with inetd, or misconfigured sth ?
I attach the httpd.conf (only no-hashed lines).

2) Where is mime_magic ?

This is filling up the log:

# /var/log/apache/error.log:

[Wed Jul  2 19:09:08 2003] [error] (2)No such file or directory:
mod_mime_magic: can't read magic file /etc/apache/share/magic

Though /etc/apache/httpd.conf says it's expected to be like
MIMEMagicFile share/magic
there's no directory 'share' in the server-root;  only a symlink to 
/etc/mime.types.

Am i expected to do sth about it ?
Any hint please ?

cc to me, i am not on this list.

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# /etc/apache/httpd.conf:

ServerType inetd
ServerRoot /etc/apache
LockFile /var/lock/apache.lock
PidFile /var/run/apache.pid
ScoreBoardFile /var/run/apache.scoreboard
Timeout 300
KeepAlive On
MaxKeepAliveRequests 100
KeepAliveTimeout 60
MinSpareServers 1
MaxSpareServers 5
StartServers 1
MaxClients 50
MaxRequestsPerChild 100
Listen 127.0.0.1:80
LoadModule config_log_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_log_config.so
LoadModule mime_magic_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_mime_magic.so
LoadModule mime_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_mime.so
LoadModule negotiation_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_negotiation.so
LoadModule status_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_status.so
LoadModule autoindex_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_autoindex.so
LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so
LoadModule userdir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_userdir.so
LoadModule alias_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_alias.so
LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_rewrite.so
LoadModule access_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_access.so
LoadModule auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth.so
LoadModule expires_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_expires.so
LoadModule unique_id_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_unique_id.so
LoadModule setenvif_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_setenvif.so
ExtendedStatus On
Port 80
User www-data
Group www-data
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ServerName 127.0.0.1
DocumentRoot /var/www

Options SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
AllowOverride None


Options Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all


UserDir public_html


AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec

Order allow,deny
Allow from all


Order deny,allow
Deny from all



DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi

AccessFileName .htaccess

Order allow,deny
Deny from all

UseCanonicalName On
TypesConfig /etc/mime.types
DefaultType text/plain

MIMEMagicFile share/magic

HostnameLookups Off
ErrorLog /var/log/apache/error.log
LogLevel debug
LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\" %T 
%v" full
LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\" %P 
%T" debug
LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" 
combined
LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common
LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer
LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent
CustomLog /var/log/apache/access.log combined
ServerSignature EMail
Alias /icons/ /usr/share/apache/icons/

Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/

AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all


IndexOptions FancyIndexing NameWidth=*
AddIconByEncoding (CMP,/icons/compressed.gif) x-compress x-gzip
AddIconByType (TXT,/icons/text.gif) text/*
AddIconByType (IMG,/icons/image2.gif) image/*
AddIconByType (SND,/icons/sound2.gif) audio/*
AddIconByType (VID,/icons/movie.gif) video/*
AddIcon /icons/binary.gif .bin .exe
AddIcon /icons/binhex.gif .hqx
AddIcon /icons/tar.gif .tar
AddIcon /icons/world2.gif .wrl .wrl.gz .vrml .vrm .iv
AddIcon /icons/compressed.gif .Z .z .tgz .gz .zip
AddIcon /icons/a.gif .ps .ai .eps
AddIcon /icons/la

Re: Where to set moz GUI font?

2003-07-03 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Op do 03-07-2003, om 19:31 schreef Jan Willem Stumpel:
> This was my experience with the Mozilla GUI font:
> 
> 1) Moz 1.0 running on Woody: no particular problem. But of course
> this is 1.0, and Woody, and one likes to upgrade.
> 
> 2) After upgrade to Sarge, Moz is still 1.0, but Moz´s GUI font is
> very ugly. This is caused by a bad Helvetica font and/or a bad
> Type1 font renderer in the Sarge version of xserver-xfree86, as
> explained in
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg00379.html
> 
> The solution is to move the line
> 
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> 
> to the bottom of the list of FontPaths in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
> The Mozilla GUI font is no longer pig-ugly, but some acceptable
> anti-aliased sans-serif font. Well, bold. I´d like it better if it
> were somewhat thinner.
> 
> 3) Then (keeping a Sarge system in principle but installing Moz
> 1.3 from unstable) the GUI font changes *again*. Now it is a
> non-bold, anti-aliased, very tiny, serif font (probably Times New
> Roman). I don´t like it but do not know how to change it.
> 
> QUESTION: with Moz's Edit, Preferences, Appearance, Fonts the
> font(s) of Moz´s *content* can be set. But where can the *GUI*
> font be set (and fixed against the effects of upgrades)?
> 
> Regards, Jan
> 

Using aptitude, searching for the mozilla-browser package revealed that
it uses libgtk. So, to set the font of the gui, make a ~/.gtkrc file
and specify the font there. Mine looks like this:


style "gtk-default-iso-8859-15" { 
 fontset = "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15,\
-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15,*-r-*"
} 

class "GtkWidget" style "gtk-default-iso-8859-15"

The "gtk-default-iso-8859-15" is only a name so change that to
whatever you want but make sure you mention the changed name then also
in the last line.
To see how a font looks and find out what the description is so you can
enter that in the fontset line, use the Xfontsel program.

Regards,
Benedict




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Re: ugly fonts in X apps (xclock & xbuffy)

2003-07-03 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Op do 03-07-2003, om 17:42 schreef nori heikkinen:
> suddenly, my fonts in X are all weird.  gtk stuff is still fine, but
> xbuffy and xclock have been beaten with an ugly stick.  i posted once
> on this about 10 months ago[1], and didn't receive an answer ... but i
> fixed it, and don't remember how i did it (this time i'll be sure to
> write it down!)  a screenshot i took around that time (it looks the
> same now) is here: http://www.maenad.net/geek/xbuffy-ugly.jpg
> 
> searching list archives also turned up martin having the same
> problem[2].  following that thread through didn't turn up much,
> either.
> 
> i have FontPaths in my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
> 
> FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
> 
> I don't think I run xfs, but I'm not sure -- but either way,
> configuring my 'catalogue' line in /etc/X11/fs/config as suggested in
> [3] didn't do anything.  Ron seemed to fix it by patching together an
> old XF96Config-4 file, but I still have all my fontpaths ...
> 
> I'm not sure what's wrong, but it's sure ugly!
> 
> help?
> 
> 

Nori,

i had some font problems too a while ago. I posted my sollution here 
and it's posted again in this email. i don't use a font server so i 
commented that out in my xconfig. What i did for non gtk / kde stuff
is make an ~/.Xdefaults file with these settings. 
  *font:  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-13-120-75-75-c-70-iso8859-15
  *VT100*font2: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-70-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
  *VT100*font3: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
  *VT100*font4: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
  *VT100*font5: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-140-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
  *VT100*font6: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-200-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
  xterm*visualBell: true
  xterm*foreground: black
  xterm*scrollBar: true

After this, my fonts where fine.

Try this and see what happens.

== previous post from i don't know when ==

Hi,

i solved problem 2 also.  It was not that straightforward since is use
fluxbox with KDE and GNOME programs.
First of all make sure the FontPath
in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file are correct. 

Section "Files"
#FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"

EndSection

I don't use a fontserver so /etc/X11/fs/config is of no use of me.
If you do have a font server, make sure you edit this file
and make sure the catalogue is correct. You can then
start an x session and check with xlsfonts what fonts are
known to the X. If you can see the font you want to use,
you known the fonts can be seen by X.
I wanted to change the fonts of 2 apps that i use a lot:
xterm and evolution.
For xterm, i made a ~/.Xdefaults file which has this
content:

*font:  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-13-120-75-75-c-70-iso8859-15
*VT100*font2: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-70-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
*VT100*font3: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
*VT100*font4: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
*VT100*font5: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-140-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
*VT100*font6: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-200-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
xterm*visualBell: true
xterm*foreground: black
xterm*scrollBar: true

I found the correct fonts by running the Xfontsel program
and setting the correct parameters for a font.
Xterm then displays the correct fonts and I can then use 
shift "-" and shift "+" to switch the fonts. Pretty cool.
Next i looked to change the base font evolution uses. The
preferences allow to change the font of a message or the 
font used to print but not the font for the inbox or the 
menu.

I found a post somewhere on the next in regards to a 
gtkrc problem and it solved mine too. Make a ~/.gtkrc file
and put this in:

style "gtk-default-iso-8859-15" { 
fontset = "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1,\ 
-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1,\
-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15,\ 
-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15,*-r-*"
} 

class "GtkWidget" style "gtk-default-iso-8859-15" 
Change the fonts to whatever you like as fonts and bingo,
Evolution now uses a smaller font that allows me to have
more info on the screen. 
Hopes this helps other people struggling with fonts.

Benedict

=END== previous 

Re: OT? www.donotcall.gov problem

2003-07-03 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:03:43PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Caller ID works infrequently between area codes.
> 
> That's not really the problem.  Nobody uses Caller ID for this sort of
> thing... they have ANI (Automatic Number Identification), which is the
> same information the telcos have for billing.  That information _does_
> work between area codes and can't be blocked.

But ANI can be changed by the PBX on PRI lines.

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Re: Cisco router simulator?

2003-07-03 Thread Thomas Richter
Hallo Paul

> I'll take a look at zebra later.  Since people have also suggested
> buying hardware, anybody know how much Cisco 2600 units are going
> for?

i bought a 2503 two hours ago. 142 euros on german ebay.
the seller have a second one he didnt sold.


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HI Liunx Help ??

2003-07-03 Thread RCN
I installed Debian woddy via the net using DHCP for my network configuration
and a cable modem however I wasn't able to specify the domain name for the
system.. I already have a registered domain name .I'm pretty new to
this so as you can tell I'm stomped. I'm trying to host a small site on the
box however I can get bind to configure and I'm thinking it's because the
system doesn't know it domain name I do get a return for hostname
however..Along with that I'm trying to host mail for the site and
I've found that with the exim configuration option 1 c(internet site ) my
mail is delivered only locally . I'm trying to get this this to send out
nail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I know I have to give the nameservers to my
registrar but can you point me in the right direction as far as what I so be
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Re: cdrecord warning message

2003-07-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Marc Wilson [Wed, Jul 02 2003, 10:01:53PM]:

> Either run cdrecord as root (using sudo, for instance), or set it suid
> root, so that it can do what it wants to do.

Will work with SUID only with the latest Sid version.


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Re: Worked around (dirty...) How to apply no-debianized kernelpatch to debianized kernel-source?

2003-07-03 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Op wo 02-07-2003, om 21:18 schreef Kevin Mark:
> > 
> >  I wrote the documentation 
> > for myself and have offered it to the open source community as a 
> > "here you might find this useful" kind of document. I was then asked 
> > by one debian user to contribute my documentation to The LDP.
> > The submission process involved doing a re-write of my original text and
> > converting the document from valid XHTML to DocBook, a markup language that I
> > have learned for this project. I'm now working on revising the LDP XSLT
> > templates (and possibly DocBook templates from a debian package) 
> > to correct the HTML output so that my document will validate when
> > it is translated BACK to HTML.
> 
> Hi EJH,
> a recent discussion on another list I am on mentioned frustrations at
> the LDP for many of the same reasons: converting it to the 'not simple
> for beginners format' Docbook - which they said the LDP did not provide
> an 'example' to get a quick start. The idea of having possibly useful
> info, tips, what-not and having so many barriers to 'contribute'. Seem
> like they should have someone at LDP or similar to do the rough
> conversion since its what they want and will be checking anyway and will
> be expert creating. I hate the idea of people wishing to contribute only
> to be thwarted by 'process'.
> just my 2 yen.
> -K
> 

Emma,


i'm with Kevin. It's great that you looked into making a doc for the 
LDP but if it was me who made the original doc, i wouldn't have bothered
writing a doc in some scripting language (or whatever Docbook is).
It's already an effort that you decided to write down your experiences
so other people could benefit from it. And a lot of people already know
your site so they can check the documents there.
I for one have never liked the format of the LDP project. It's doesn't 
read easily. And they should accept HTML docs. You provided the 
research and the knowledge, they can provide the layout. If not, to bad
they loose out on some great material.

And people do appreciate what you are doing. It's not because some
people aren't that enthousiastic that the better part of this community
isn't excited about it.

Regards,
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Re: How to have 'apt-get clean' automatically after apt-get install ?

2003-07-03 Thread Manolis Tzanidakis
[20030703] Bruce Sass ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> 
> script it
> 
> --- /usr/local/sbin/aptinstall ---
> #! /bin/sh
> if [ "$1" = "" ]; then
> echo "$0: missing package name(s)"
> exit 1
> fi
> apt-get install $1 && apt-get clean

Thanx alot. I was thinking doing it via a script, however I 
was searching for an apt option to put in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
Is there any such option ?
I tried APT::Get::Clean "always"; but it doesn't seem to work...

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Re: bash: a pipe bodge, is there a better way ?

2003-07-03 Thread Alan Shutko
David selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This seems a bit of a bodge and I am sure there is a better way..

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it... You _could_ do
something like 

(cd $tempdir/websync ; echo $scanhtml | csplit -f index -q - /lock/ {*} )

or 

echo $scanhtml | (cd $tempdir/websync; csplit -f index -q - /lock/ {*} )

but I don't think that's any more readable.

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Re: OT? www.donotcall.gov problem

2003-07-03 Thread Alan Shutko
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The easy answer is ditch your landline in favor of a cell-phone.  It's
> illegal to make unsolicted commercial phone calls to cell-phones in
> the US, and telemarketers do respect this.

Well, they sort of respect it.  They'll still call, but they'll hang
up really quickly when they hear it's a cell phone, and I _think_ they
take it off their list... at least, I don't remember many repeats.
But I didn't get a substantial decrease of telemarketer calls on my
cell phone till I signed up for the NY do-not-call list.

> Caller ID works infrequently between area codes.

That's not really the problem.  Nobody uses Caller ID for this sort
of thing... they have ANI (Automatic Number Identification), which is
the same information the telcos have for billing.  That information
_does_ work between area codes and can't be blocked.

However, as someone else may have mentioned, that won't necessarily
give the correct phone number in the case of a PBX.  Many PBXes show
the same phone number on ANI for all outgoing calls, which is correct
for billing, but wouldn't let you register your incoming phone
number.  So the query and confirmation is to help stop that kind of
problem, or at least let the user know.

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Re: Debian and S3 ProsavageDDR KM 266

2003-07-03 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:55:14 -0500
Julian Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 04:04:00PM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> > It 'should' work. My new motherboard has ProSavageDDR. I had to use
> > Knoppix, to get it identified, but it's working like a champ.
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Can  you tell me what xfree86 driver work for you?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Julián Hernández Gómez
> 

As an added note. Installing debian proper, I could not get the display
using 24bits, but using 16bits.

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Re: ugly fonts in X apps (xclock & xbuffy)

2003-07-03 Thread nori heikkinen
on Thu, 03 Jul 2003 02:39:48PM -0400, Chris Metzler insinuated:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:42:34 -0400
> nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > suddenly, my fonts in X are all weird.  gtk stuff is still fine, but
> > xbuffy and xclock have been beaten with an ugly stick.  i posted once
> > on this about 10 months ago[1], and didn't receive an answer ... but i
> > fixed it, and don't remember how i did it (this time i'll be sure to
> > write it down!)  a screenshot i took around that time (it looks the
> > same now) is here: http://www.maenad.net/geek/xbuffy-ugly.jpg
> > 
> > searching list archives also turned up martin having the same
> > problem[2].  following that thread through didn't turn up much,
> > either.
> > 
> > i have FontPaths in my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
> > 
> > FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font
> > server FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
> > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
> > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
> > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
> > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
> 
> This may or may not be your problem, but take a look at this thread:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg00207.html
> 
> To check, move your call for Type 1 fonts to the end of the list and
> see what happens.
> 
> Hope that's it,

that was it!  weird.

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Re: 2.4.20 => no wireless network

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew Perrin
Thanks to all who responded to this query. As it turned out, the problem
was that I had selected "PCMCIA Wireless Networking" and "Hermes Wireless
Adapter" in the kernel, but not "Hermes PCMCIA adapter."  I therefore
didn't have an available driver for the card.

I do find it kind of confusing. Can someone provide a reason why some of
the modules/options for PCMCIA wireless networking are in "Network Device
Support -> Wireless LAN -> Wireless pcmcia cards support" while others are
in "PCMCIA Network Device Support -> PCMCIA Wireless LAN"?

ap

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Re: Activating vim color?

2003-07-03 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:01:35 -0400
"Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:45:50AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> | For example I load some sample Python code into vim and kgim (gvim
> | didn't start for some reason).  Here's the differences:
 
> Was gvim not installed (the 'vim' package doesn't include the GUI) or
> did it give an error?

Yeah, I hadn't seen that gvim was split out to gtk-vim.  Installed that
for a better comparison.
 
> |   vim kvim
> | comments: cyandark grey
> | import:   dark blue   light green
> | keywords: yellow  yellow (shocker!)
> | quoted:   purple  cyan
> | normal:   white   white

> Here's what I get :
>vim gvim
>  comments: cyanblue (softer than cyan)
>  import:   bluepurple-ish (softer than magenta)
>  keywords: yellow  yellow
>  quoted:   magenta pink-ish
>  normal:   white   white

Yup, that matches with what I have.  I nuked my .gvimrc and added the
three lines you did.  Still not close enough, IMO.  The main problem is that
while most of those are "close" they are either muted or, in the case of
quoted strings, a different color completely.

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KDE packages for woody

2003-07-03 Thread Raffaele Sandrini
Hi

There are unofficial but official ( :)) ) packages of KDE 3.1 for woody. They 
are avail on the KDE servers and its mirrors.

These packages are good but i think that they are not really woody packs 
because there are packages wich breack depencies wich are not broken on on 
unstable. This is true for kdesdk and all devlopment packages (-dev)...

I would like to install a KDE build enviroment on my box here. I tried this 
out of debian packs and faild for resons above. I could do so by compiling 
the source for myself and use thisone but it would be cool if debian could do 
it to.

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Re: Where does Mozilla get its list of printers?

2003-07-03 Thread Andre Berger

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* Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2003-07-02 18:35 -0400:
> I use CUPS to print from my Sid system.  When I go to print from Mozilla,=
 I
> get to choose from:
>=20
>   huffalump@:64
>   spooldir_tmp_Xprintjobs@:64
>   PostScript/default
>=20
> "huffalump" is the name of the laser printer on my FreeBSD box across the
> room, served via CUPS.  My /etc/printcap is pretty barren:
[...]

I'm running Firebird, CUPS, and xpp (on woody), which gives me the
printers CUPS provides to choose from.=20

The setup is simple: File : Print : Properties : Print Command : xpp

> So, where is Mozilla finding huffalump?  What does the "@:64" suffix mean?
> And why can't I print to it?

No idea, maybe it takes the setup from an environment variable?

-Andre

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Re: compiling lufs

2003-07-03 Thread Ken Bloom
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 15:10:11 +0200, Gregory Seidman wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:49:04PM -0700, Ken Bloom wrote:
> } How do I compile the LUFS kernel module from its official debian package
> } to run on a debian stock kernel (in this case 2.4.20-3-686)
> 
> apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.20-3-686
> apt-get install kernel-package
> apt-get install lufs-source
> cd /usr/src
> tar xzf lufs.tar.gz
> cd kernel-headers-2.4.20-3-686
> make-kpkg --added-modules lufs modules_image 
> cd ..
> dpkg -i lufs*.deb
> 
> --Greg

make-kpkg complains when I try to run it form a kernel-headers directory

We do not seem to be in a top level linux kernel source directory
tree. Since we are trying to make a kernel package, that does not make
sense.  Please change directory to a top level linux kernel source
directory, and try again. (If I am wrong, and this is indeed a top
level linux kernel source directory, then I have gotten sadly out of
date with current kernels, and you should upgrade kernel-package)

I've also tried from the kernel source directory (Adding
--append-to-version) but the module has unresolved symbols when I run
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Re: bash: a pipe bodge, is there a better way ?

2003-07-03 Thread David selby
David selby wrote:

I have a pipe of commands 

echo $scanhtml | csplit -f index -q - /lock/ {*}

I want the output to go to $tempdir/websync/ ... Is there a more 
elegant way than my present solution of ..

cd $tempdir/websync
echo $scanhtml | csplit -f index -q - /lock/ {*}
This seems a bit of a bodge and I am sure there is a better way..

Dave

PS I used echo $scanhtml | because to use this directly in csplit 
seletes the file if a split is done !




Please excuse my extreme stupidity ... double quoted it !!
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Kernel Modules

2003-07-03 Thread Abrasive
Okay, once again I'm having trouble installing a display driver: Intel 845-G
I downloaded the drivers from http://www.intel.com
And after unpacking the tarball, I run ./install.sh
Everything runs fine until it needs to compile a new agpart module, and a 
DRM module:
Error Follows:

Compiling new agpart module...
ERROR: AGPART module did not compile
Compiling DRM module...
ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile
The DRI drivers cannot be installed without the latest kernel 
modules.(/lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4)
Installation will be aborted.

Is there a kernel module package out there for the kernel I'm running? 
2.4.18-bf2.4

Thanks,
-Abrasive
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Re: Change Apt source

2003-07-03 Thread Seneca
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:49:29PM -0500, Abrasive wrote:
> Now, how do I change the apt sources so that my Debian box will look on the 
> web for new
> packages and the like?  And also security updates?   Or is it easier to 
> just find them and download
> them manually?

man sources.list.  It tells you how to change the sources, and even
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Re: ugly fonts in X apps (xclock & xbuffy)

2003-07-03 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:42:34 -0400
nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> suddenly, my fonts in X are all weird.  gtk stuff is still fine, but
> xbuffy and xclock have been beaten with an ugly stick.  i posted once
> on this about 10 months ago[1], and didn't receive an answer ... but i
> fixed it, and don't remember how i did it (this time i'll be sure to
> write it down!)  a screenshot i took around that time (it looks the
> same now) is here: http://www.maenad.net/geek/xbuffy-ugly.jpg
> 
> searching list archives also turned up martin having the same
> problem[2].  following that thread through didn't turn up much,
> either.
> 
> i have FontPaths in my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
> 
> FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font
> server FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"

This may or may not be your problem, but take a look at this thread:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg00207.html

To check, move your call for Type 1 fonts to the end of the list and
see what happens.

Hope that's it,

-c

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Re: From header in Tin

2003-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:44:55AM +0200, Wim wrote:
> I'm using the newsreader-client Tin (1.5.12) and when I reply or 
> follow-up a posting, the From header reads: Debian User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> In ~/.tin/attributes I filled in my e-mail address in the 'from' field, 
> but that doesn't help.
> 
> Who knows where I can fill in my e-mail address so Tin uses that in the
> From header?

At a guess, try chfn? Your name in /etc/passwd may be wrong.

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Cannot mount cdrom if I use GRUB

2003-07-03 Thread Marino Fernandez
This must be a very simple and dumb problem, but I cannot figure it out.

If I boot with LILO, I can mount my CD/DVD w/o any problem.
If I boot with GRUB I get an error message that says that my /dev/dvd is not a 
valid block device (same with /dev/cdrom, /dev/sr0, /dev/scd0, even as root).

I have this in fstabs:
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660  defaults,ro,user,noexec,noauto  0  0
I have this in lilo.conf:
append="hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hdd=scsi apm=power-off nomce wheelmouse"
I have this in /boot/grub/menu.lst:
# kopt=root=/dev/hda13 ro vga=791 hdc=scsi

My CD/DVD is a Matshita UJDA 720. Is the primary drive in my second IDE (thus 
hdc), is under scsi emulation.



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Where to set moz GUI font?

2003-07-03 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
This was my experience with the Mozilla GUI font:

1) Moz 1.0 running on Woody: no particular problem. But of course
this is 1.0, and Woody, and one likes to upgrade.

2) After upgrade to Sarge, Moz is still 1.0, but Moz´s GUI font is
very ugly. This is caused by a bad Helvetica font and/or a bad
Type1 font renderer in the Sarge version of xserver-xfree86, as
explained in

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg00379.html

The solution is to move the line

FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"

to the bottom of the list of FontPaths in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
The Mozilla GUI font is no longer pig-ugly, but some acceptable
anti-aliased sans-serif font. Well, bold. I´d like it better if it
were somewhat thinner.

3) Then (keeping a Sarge system in principle but installing Moz
1.3 from unstable) the GUI font changes *again*. Now it is a
non-bold, anti-aliased, very tiny, serif font (probably Times New
Roman). I don´t like it but do not know how to change it.

QUESTION: with Moz's Edit, Preferences, Appearance, Fonts the
font(s) of Moz´s *content* can be set. But where can the *GUI*
font be set (and fixed against the effects of upgrades)?

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Re: weird tcpdump dependency on libaviplaydha

2003-07-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030703 02:20]:
> I am thoroughly confused. I have had what seems to be major
> filesystem corruption. Is there any corruption that can happen to
> a Linux FS (Reiser, ugh!) which would leave the binary untouched
> (MD5sum identical) but cause it's dependencies to go haywire? Btw:
> I don't think I ever had libs/libavifile installed. Never.

Right.  Maybe tcpdump is okay but one of the libraries it depends on is
modified?  Try these:

wingnut:~% ldd /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.7 /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 
/usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.7:
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40024000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)
/lib/libc.so.6:
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2:
statically linked
wingnut:~% md5sum /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.7 /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 
f3c973cdb7d0a55b112357549d4316c8  /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.7
da26d443a352c43d5b9590b119026f2a  /lib/libc.so.6
f5d0883725f09a764c31a024006cac0d  /lib/ld-linux.so.2

My next suspicion is that although tcpdump itself is fine, libpcap
may be screwy.  I have libpcap0.7 0.7.2-1 here.

good times,
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Re: Change Apt source

2003-07-03 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:49:29 -0500
Abrasive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I FINALLY got my NIC to work properly.
> Now, how do I change the apt sources so that my Debian box will look on
> the web for new
> packages and the like?  And also security updates?   Or is it easier to 
> just find them and download
> them manually?


http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
especially http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before

Going to the Debian webpage and clicking on "Documentation," I find:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html

.. . .which should help you answer your question (especially the
latter one).

Also, regarding security updates, you may wish to subscribe to the
debian-security-announce mailing list.

-c

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Re: Does anyone use an All-in-One Printer!

2003-07-03 Thread Rthoreau
In regards to the OT topic of faxing over a broad band connection, the answer 
would be is you don't need a dedicated fax machine to fax messages over the 
internet. 

I also think that many All-in-ones can recieve a fax, as a standalone fax 
machine without needing a computer.

here is a quick link to a internet fax FAQ.

www.savetz.com/fax
 
As regarding the All-in-ones just make sure the features you need are 
available in linux.  Also HP does a good job of linux support.  I have an old 
PSC500 that works great.  You might want to check out the sane page for 
scanner linux support, and other support sites that cater to linux device 
support.

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Re: mantis security upgrade breaks user configuration

2003-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:26:12PM +0200, Alexander Meyer wrote:
> i learned from the debian-security-announce mailinglist that mantis (a
> php bugtracking system) has insecure permissions on the configfile that
> stores the database password. so i did an 'apt-get update ;apt-get
> upgrade' and was quite surprised, as this upgrade didn't just fix
> permissions on this file, but overwrote it without asking. it took me a
> while to find out what happened, and even longer, to restore the
> settings i had in this file, because the update didn't even bother
> backing up the original configuration.

That's a serious bug. Please report it as such.

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Re: Activating vim color?

2003-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:45:50AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
| On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:53:57 -0400
| "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| > Since gvim has more colors available to it, the tags and comments in
| > XML become different shades of blue (which really is much nicer) and
| > quoted text in emails is a different color based on the depth of the
| > quoting (which is neat too).
| 
| Which is all fine and good.  However, what I am seeing is a complete
| difference between GUI and terminal colors on a base install.  Additional
| colors aren't that big of a problem.

Ok, at least you aren't complaining about that feature :-).

| For example I load some sample Python code into vim and kgim (gvim didn't
| start for some reason).  Here's the differences:

Was gvim not installed (the 'vim' package doesn't include the GUI) or
did it give an error?

|   vim kvim
| comments: cyandark grey
| import:   dark blue   light green
| keywords: yellow  yellow (shocker!)
| quoted:   purple  cyan
| normal:   white   white

Here's what I get :
   vim gvim
 comments: cyanblue (softer than cyan)
 import:   bluepurple-ish (softer than magenta)
 keywords: yellow  yellow
 quoted:   magenta pink-ish
 normal:   white   white

I installed kvim to see what it would do.  It just didn't work
correctly (the font was messed up and didn't display half of the time)
but still had the same colors as gvim.

I now have screen shots posted at http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/post/
so you can what I see.  The only color-related configuration I've done
is this :

highlight Normal guibg=black guifg=grey90
set background=dark
syntax on

HTH,
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Re: How safe is Linux system

2003-07-03 Thread Don Werve
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:10:39PM -0400, Vivek Kumar wrote:
> 
> Any  thought on this as far as Linux systems are concerned. What are the
> few things we should take care of ?

Same things you should *always* be taking care of; making sure your 
system is patched, up-to-date, and not running unnecessary services.

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Re: Where does Mozilla get its list of printers?

2003-07-03 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 11:38:43AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:
> > "Kirk" == Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Kirk> Great.  Yet another printing system to futz with.  :-/
> 
> Yeah, I wish everything just spoke CUPS.

That would make things so much easier.  Even IPP would be nice since
CUPS supports it.

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Change Apt source

2003-07-03 Thread Abrasive
I FINALLY got my NIC to work properly.
Now, how do I change the apt sources so that my Debian box will look on the 
web for new
packages and the like?  And also security updates?   Or is it easier to 
just find them and download
them manually?
Thanks!
-Abrasive

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Re: How do you creat an alias in postfix.

2003-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 03:28:37PM -0500, Marino Fernandez wrote:
[...]

| > Run "postmap /etc/postfix/aliases" and "postfix reload".
| >
| An I get this:
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo postmap /etc/postfix/aliases
| postmap: warning: /etc/postfix/aliases, line 1: record is in "key: value" 
| format; is this an alias file?

postmap doesn't work on alias files.  Instead use either 'newaliases'
or 'postalias'.  Read the manpages for details on them.

| File that by the way I created with a text editor,

That's fine.  Just be sure you put it in the right place.  You will
know what the right place is by reading main.cf (look for
'alias_databases').

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Re: Does anyone use an All-in-One Printer?

2003-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 05:14:12PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:

| Sorry for an OT question: Is it possible to FAX if you have a
| broadband internet connection? I suspect one has to buy a modem just
| for faxing. 

Faxing is defined by the telephone system.  So, no, you can't fax over
IP.  (your Internet connection, regardless of broadband or not, uses
IP for transport)  However, there are several gateway systems to
bridge between computers and faxes in a variety of ways.

HTH,
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Re: Where does Mozilla get its list of printers?

2003-07-03 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Kirk" == Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Kirk> At 2003-07-03T02:14:58Z, Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> AFAICT, mozilla uses the Xprint system.  See the xprt-xprintorg
>> package, or xprint.mozdev.org.  Basically, Xprint is like the X11
>> protocol implemented for printers.

Kirk> Great.  Yet another printing system to futz with.  :-/

Well, it's not too bad, really.  It's mostly gets its information from
the existing print system.  IIRC, you just have to set up an environment
variable to tell mozilla what servers to use, and maybe edit a config
file to tell the print system to default to letter paper if you're in
the US (although it may already detect that automatically).  But look
through the docs to make sure.

Yeah, I wish everything just spoke CUPS.

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Re: Boot floppies with XFS

2003-07-03 Thread Eamon Roque
Hallo,

Ghe Rivero schrieb:

Hi!
I'm looking for some boot floppies that i found a lot of time ago that
allows you to install debian with XFS (SGi file system) anybody knows
where are they?¿
	Ghe Rivero

 

http://people.debian.org/~blade/XFS-Install/

HTH

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From header in Tin

2003-07-03 Thread Wim
I'm using the newsreader-client Tin (1.5.12) and when I reply or 
follow-up a posting, the From header reads: Debian User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
In ~/.tin/attributes I filled in my e-mail address in the 'from' field, 
but that doesn't help.

Who knows where I can fill in my e-mail address so Tin uses that in the
>From header?

Thanks,
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[OT] (possibly): libglide3 / libGL errors

2003-07-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
Dear all,

Not sure if this is a problem with Debian packages or my own programming
blunders.  Please excuse my off-topic post in case this turns out to be
my errors.


I've been playing with GLUT and OpenGL.  I get the following run-time
error message:

libGL error: can't find Glide library, dlopen(libglide3-v5.so) and
   dlopen(libglide3.so) both failed.
libGL error: dlerror() message: /usr/lib/libglide3.so: undefined symbol:
   _trisetup_Default_win_nocull_valid

these are two different issues, and both are perplexing.


The first error is odd because libglide3.so exists (it's not a dangling
symlink) in /usr/lib.   Man ld.so says /usr/lib is automatically
searched by dlopen() without needing an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf.  So
how the heck isn't dlopen() finding it?


I'm not sure what to do about the second error.  It sounds like there
might be a missing dependency, but I've checked.  Can this be a problem
with the libglide3-dev package?


The hardware is a Voodoo 5 on Sarge.  If I try to link my program
statically, all hell breaks loose with errors that look like

   undefined reference to `XInternAtom'

This is the makefile showing how I'm building the application:

   CC  = colorgcc
   CFLAGS  = -g -W -Wall -std=c99
   
   SRCS= $(wildcard *.c)
   OBJS= $(patsubst %.c, %.o, $(SRCS))
   PROGS   = $(patsubst %.c, %, $(SRCS))
   LDLIBS  = -lglut
   
   all: $(PROGS)
   
   clean:
$(RM) $(PROGS) $(OBJS)

I've scratched my head on this for at least an hour.  Any help greatly
appreciated!

Thanks!
Pete

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Re: what is bf2.4, actually?

2003-07-03 Thread Víctor Zabalza
Duane Winner wrote:
> But until I reach that point (compiling kernel), is there a better
> stable kernel I might want to install?

There are the kernel-image-* packages for each of the architectures
supported. I think there are images in sid for the 2.4.21 kernel. They
provide a binary pre-compiled kernel.

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Re: Intel D875PBZ or MSI 87P NEO-FIS2R

2003-07-03 Thread Nick Lidakis
Dave Howorth wrote:

Hi Nick,

Thanks for that. I read the review but was still left with some 
questions. (This may just be due to my lack of expertise in kernels). 
It seems that the reviewers didn't get even Intel's RAID 0 to work, 
and they installed on a 'PATA' drive and were only able to see the 
SATA drives with the BIOS configured to make them look like PATA - 
what does this do for the performance and capabilities - is it a 
complete long-term fix? (or they could see SATA drives with no DMA, no 
Ethernet and no video!)  They don't mention ECC at all.

So I'm still curious as to whether anybody has first hand success with 
either of these boards?

Thanks, Dave
They were using a 2.4.20 kernel or a pre 2.4.21 kernel IIRC. I plan on 
using it with PATA drives, so I can't offer any advice on SATA.  I 
prefer the Intel board cause it lacks all the bells and whistles other 
manufactures insist on cramming onto their boards. The board even lacks 
on board sound, but most people end up using their own sound card 
anyways. I'll let you know how my Debian install gose as soon as I get it.

Nick

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Re: How safe is Linux system

2003-07-03 Thread Mathias Gygax
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:10:39PM -0400, Vivek Kumar wrote:
> Hi there,

hi,

> Cyber security organizations warned network administrators on Wednesday
> about a Web site hacking contest that appeared to be scheduled to begin
> on Sunday, July 6.
> 
> Any  thought on this as far as Linux systems are concerned. What are the
> few things we should take care of ?

be sure to upgrade your software to the latest release or upgrade to the
security patches provided by debian.

watch all your active web-content (like PHP and perl CGI scripts).
software does have bugs. you make it harder to sploit the system when
your system is current (like servers and interpreters), but this doesn't
prevent anybody from sploiting poorly written code (in sense of
security).

at least, watch your logs for unusual queries. if you think somebody is
sploiting your system, take responsibility and on worst case, deactivate
the infected parts or even shutdown your network completly and try to
identify the source and affected components in your system.

HTH a bit.

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Re: Boot floppies with XFS

2003-07-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Ghe Rivero [Thu, Jul 03 2003, 01:58:02PM]:
> Hi!
>   I'm looking for some boot floppies that i found a lot of time ago that
> allows you to install debian with XFS (SGi file system) anybody knows
> where are they?¿

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Re: error installing Display Drivers

2003-07-03 Thread Abrasive
I downloaded the package:  kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4_2.4.18-5woody1_i386.deb
copied it over to /usr/src
ran:  dpkg -i kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4_2.4.18-5woody1_i386.deb
Still no change in the problem with installing the drivers.
Did I skip a step?
Any help?
Thanks
At 11:11 PM 7/2/2003 +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote:
Hello

Abrasive wrote:

> I'm trying to install the Intel 845G display adapter on my computer.
> Using the script from
> the Intel web site, I get an error:
> Error: cannot find header matching kernel version 2.4.18-bf2.4
>
> The error generated a dri.log file, here are the contents.  Anyone have
> any ideas?
> Or am I just missing something simple?
First, make sure that you have installed the kernel header files matching
your kernel image (i.e. install kernel-headers-2.4.8-bf2.4, you can find
the package here: http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/).
If it still won't work, make a symlink
/usr/src/linux > /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18bf2.4.
best regards
Andreas Janssen
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Re: what is bf2.4, actually?

2003-07-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 

> Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on
> the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about?

Not somebody, something.

apt-cache show kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4

> Why is it called bf2.4?

Some people claimed it to be Big Fscking, but it means just
Boot Floppy variant of 2.4.x. It must became a short string which is
simply recognized as boot-floppies related and 2.4.something related
installation flavor.

> I looked all over the web for docs that explain this so-called "bf
> variant", but can't find anything.

What do you expect? A great story about my mood when I invented
this kernel name?

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Re: Boot floppies with XFS

2003-07-03 Thread Greg Madden
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On Thursday 03 July 2003 03:58 am, Ghe Rivero wrote:
> Hi!
>   I'm looking for some boot floppies that i found a lot of time ago that
> allows you to install debian with XFS (SGi file system) anybody knows
> where are they?¿
>
>   Ghe Rivero

First reply to a Google :)
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How safe is Linux system

2003-07-03 Thread Vivek Kumar
Hi there,

Cyber security organizations warned network administrators on Wednesday
about a Web site hacking contest that appeared to be scheduled to begin
on Sunday, July 6.

Any  thought on this as far as Linux systems are concerned. What are the
few things we should take care of ?

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sound support

2003-07-03 Thread james leclair
Hello all. My experience with debian has been great so far. When first 
started using, I had gotten my sound blaster isa sound card working without 
much probs. Now, since upgrading to a SB Audigy, I just cant seem to get it 
working. Does anyone know of a good site for tutorial/walkthrough to help 
out with this. I wouldn't mind having my hand held on this one:)
Later,
James

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Re: what is bf2.4, actually?

2003-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:16:03AM -0400, Duane Winner wrote:
> I'm relatively new to Debian, and have had pretty good success with it
> so far, but am trying to become more knowledgable about it.
> 
> Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on
> the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about?
> 
> Why is it called bf2.4?
> What makes it different from a standard 2.4.18?

The "bf" stands for "boot-floppies", which is the name of the
installation system for woody and earlier. It doesn't necessarily
involve floppy disks, despite the name.

"bf2.4" is the name of the installation flavour that installs the system
with a 2.4 kernel right from the start. (This wasn't made the default
because 2.4 wasn't sufficiently stable at the time when the choice of
woody's default kernel needed to be made, way back when.)

When you see "bf2.4" in a kernel package's version number, it indicates
the fairly stripped-down kernel that's installed by default when you
install the bf2.4 flavour. You can replace it with a more normal kernel
like kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 and variants if you like.

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Re: what is bf2.4, actually?

2003-07-03 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:16:03AM -0400, Duane Winner wrote:
> I'm relatively new to Debian, and have had pretty good success with it
> so far, but am trying to become more knowledgable about it.
> 
> Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on
> the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about?

bf stands for "boot floppies". It is the kernel used for the installer.

Frank

> Why is it called bf2.4?
> What makes it different from a standard 2.4.18?
> 
> I'm running it on all my boxes running Debian, and I have no complaints,
> but I'm running based on instructions from other people, so while I had
> good instructions to get up and running, I'm missing some of the finer
> points.
> 
> I looked all over the web for docs that explain this so-called "bf
> variant", but can't find anything.
> 
> Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge.
> 
> -DW
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Network issue with WOODY

2003-07-03 Thread Robert Webb
Hi all,

  I tried searching the archives with no luck. I have a standard load 
of Debian running and am constantly having problems with the network not 
responding when trying to connect to the box. No matter waht I try to 
hit, smtp ssh web, it will not respond unless I try and re-connect many 
times. Once on of the ports accepts a copnnection the rest start working 
also. It is almost like the NIC is going to sleep.

I have all power management turned off in the bios and was wondering if 
there was something in Woody that has changed. I ran the previous 
versions of Debian in the same setup with no problems.

I am at a loss here and any help wouild be appreciated. And if you need 
anymore info I will be ahppy to provide it.

Thanks...

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Please help out and visit WWW.DEBIANFORUMS.ORG

2003-07-03 Thread SpArTaK
General content and disscussion is needed to get this community off its feet 
please see what u can do to help. Thanks in advance!


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Woody+Bunk, Java plugin freezes Mozilla

2003-07-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hi,

I have a weird problem with Woody (plus latest updates from Adrian Bunk,
including Mozilla) and Java plugin in the Mozilla. I tried different
Java suits: from java.sun.com (1.3.1, and 1.4.2), from Blackdown (1.3.1
from the Debian packages, 1.4.1 from tarball and from inofficial
repacked DEBs), but every shows the same problem: 
Mozilla works with simple Java applets like the one from www.wildcam.de,
but it freezes Mozilla with more complicated apples like the one from
www.kmelektronik.de, apparently when the Java engine is beeing started.
It does not hang completely, ps shows a dozen of java_vm processes in
"S" state, but Mozilla does not react anymore. When I switch the
windows, Mozilla does not refresh the window contents (not completely,
it shows only the gray shadows of the screen parts where the Java
applets are, and the coffee can appears sometimes in this gray box. The
rest of the window is not repainted.).  First I suspected Mozilla from
Bunk itself, but the same happens with Gecko based browsers like Galeon
_and_ with a precompiled Mozilla-Firebird package from Mozilla.org.

OTOH, I could swear that Mozilla plugins did work few months ago on the
same system with j2sdk1.3 package from Blackdown, without any problems.

So did anyone experience the same problems and has a solution? I tried
almost everything I could on the web, including setting various
envrionment variables. Mozilla freezes.

MfG,
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Re: installing saxon

2003-07-03 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 11:02:53PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> The Saxon processor itself just comes as a set of Java libraries, I
> believe.

Ahhh, that makes sense.
http://saxon.sourceforge.net/saxon6.5.2/samples.html

It also seems like there are a few applications (in redhat RPMs) that are
saxon executables.

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ugly fonts in X apps (xclock & xbuffy)

2003-07-03 Thread nori heikkinen
suddenly, my fonts in X are all weird.  gtk stuff is still fine, but
xbuffy and xclock have been beaten with an ugly stick.  i posted once
on this about 10 months ago[1], and didn't receive an answer ... but i
fixed it, and don't remember how i did it (this time i'll be sure to
write it down!)  a screenshot i took around that time (it looks the
same now) is here: http://www.maenad.net/geek/xbuffy-ugly.jpg

searching list archives also turned up martin having the same
problem[2].  following that thread through didn't turn up much,
either.

i have FontPaths in my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:

FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"

I don't think I run xfs, but I'm not sure -- but either way,
configuring my 'catalogue' line in /etc/X11/fs/config as suggested in
[3] didn't do anything.  Ron seemed to fix it by patching together an
old XF96Config-4 file, but I still have all my fontpaths ...

I'm not sure what's wrong, but it's sure ugly!

help?



[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200208/msg04342.html
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200305/msg00350.html
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200305/msg00243.html

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Re: Debian 2.1 Interface - GUI?

2003-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:04:21AM -0400, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> Is it a matter of using an earlier version, or just a matter of not
> loading all sorts of things one doesn't need/want for a limited machine?

Look at just window managers and not full blown desktop environments.
Just how limited of space are we talking about?  In what kind of
environment?  I mean, you can fit KDE, Gnome, a couple other plain
window managers, a two office suites, six web browsers, five email
clients, a few newsreaders, and a crapload more onto a single CD and
run from the CD.

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Re: new debian box reboots itself?

2003-07-03 Thread i'll teach you to turn away .
Jake Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JJ> Maybe someone was playing a trick on your for leaving yourself logged
JJ> in! (Not a very good practice)

thanks for your non-help. i live alone & already stated the box is
not on any network.

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mantis security upgrade breaks user configuration

2003-07-03 Thread Alexander Meyer
hi all,

i learned from the debian-security-announce mailinglist that mantis (a
php bugtracking system) has insecure permissions on the configfile that
stores the database password. so i did an 'apt-get update ;apt-get
upgrade' and was quite surprised, as this upgrade didn't just fix
permissions on this file, but overwrote it without asking. it took me a
while to find out what happened, and even longer, to restore the
settings i had in this file, because the update didn't even bother
backing up the original configuration.

so all you mantis users out there: be warned! make a copy of your
/etc/mantis/config.php before upgrading. also if you don't use the
default apache include, be sure to delete the include line in your
apache conf after upgrading as the upgrade puts it in again, just to be
sure to screw up things right.

i'm very sorry for raising my voice, but WTF IS WRONG WITH THE GUY who
maintains this package??? the reason i am using debian is just to avoid
stuff like this. if i wanted upgrades to break my stuff i could as well
use red hat or something..


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Re: what is bf2.4, actually?

2003-07-03 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Thursday 03 July 2003 16:02, Duane Winner wrote:
> Sorry to be a pest, but what optimizations am I missing?

Well, some processors can do stuff others can't. Basically, for Intel 
architectures, the smallest common set is the i386. This does not use any 
improvements made to the command set since "then". I don't know actual 
examples, but there are possibilities to optimize branching and stuff.

> What would be the ideal kernel to be running on production servers?
> I'm guessing that I should be compiling my own kernel in these
> instances.
> But until I reach that point (compiling kernel), is there a better
> stable kernel I might want to install?

Have a look at the different kernel-image packages. There should be one 
matching your CPU.

> And when I do compile, what's the best/latest/stable kernel source I
> should grab?

Latest stable is 2.4.21. If you want to use it in a production server, I'd 
recommend reading through changelogs and bug reports to find out what's best 
for you.

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Re: Turn on DMA on boot

2003-07-03 Thread Mathias Gygax
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:50:52PM +0200, Mathias Gygax wrote:
> > Long time linux user, recent Debian convert. I like it. I like it a lot.
> > All my redhat servers are going the way of the dodo to be replaced by
> > Debian, slowly but surely.
> > 
> > Anyway:  What would be the most "Debian" way to turn on DMA (essentially
> > run "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda") on boot? I could (probably) add something in
> > /etc/rc2.d, but that just seems dirty.
> 
> i've put my DMA settings in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh. this script will
> also be executed in single user mode (and runlevel 2, too).

wuah, forget what i said. it seems the correct way is to enable the
hdparm setup in /etc/init.d/hwtools and do the stuff there. hwtools init
scrip will also be started in single user mode.

i just noticited it, after reading the thread. my setup comes from the
old days, where we do now have a prepared startup script. while the hwtools
package doesn't provide hdparm, it contains the setup script for it.

my apologizes for spreading out-of-date information.

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Re: Where does Mozilla get its list of printers?

2003-07-03 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-07-03T02:14:58Z, Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> AFAICT, mozilla uses the Xprint system.  See the xprt-xprintorg package,
> or xprint.mozdev.org.  Basically, Xprint is like the X11 protocol
> implemented for printers.

Great.  Yet another printing system to futz with.  :-/

> The xprt server accepts (AFACT) the standard X11 protocol, and the :64 is
> the X11 display number that mozilla wants to send the X11 commands to.

That's just... bizarre.  And the wrong information.  I'm on the only X
terminal on my LAN, and $DISPLAY=:0.0.

> The "@" I guess means that it's served at localhost (or thinks it is).
> But I have no idea where it got "huffalump" from.
>
> P.S. you'll need to read (some of) the docs in xprt-xprintorg to get it
> to work properly.

Thanks for the pointer.  That seems to be what I need to look at.
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Re: Debian 2.1 Interface - GUI?

2003-07-03 Thread Shri Shrikumar
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 15:04, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> Is it a matter of using an earlier version, or just a matter of not
> loading all sorts of things one doesn't need/want for a limited machine?
> 
> After all, one of the differences between earlier and later distros is
> better security and more optimizations.

I think that the OP might be thinking about this like windows. If you
want it to run on an older machine, you will have to go with an older
version of windows. No way is XP going to run on a 200MHz machine with
32MB RAM.

Or perhaps, (sh)he is not aware that 3.0r1 is the latest release.

Shri

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Re: How to resize Pictures

2003-07-03 Thread Joerg Johannes
On Thursday 03 July 2003 16:32, Jake Johnson wrote:
> Is pnm better (in speed or quality) over mogrify (imagemagick)?
>

Most likely it is slower, because three conversions have to be made 
instead of one:
1.) Convert to pnm
2.) resize
3.) Convert from resized pnm to desired format

mogrify will work directly on the picture.
You will have to make measurements to be sure...

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Re: How to resize Pictures

2003-07-03 Thread Jake Johnson
Is pnm better (in speed or quality) over mogrify (imagemagick)?

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> > Hello,
> > I need to know a fast way to convert 1600x1200 to 800x600 pictures from
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>
> Another way (in true unix style ;-) ) is to use the pnm package:
>
> anytopnm oldfile | pnmscale --reduce ... | pnmtoxxx newfile
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Re: what is bf2.4, actually?

2003-07-03 Thread Duane Winner
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 09:45, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> On Thursday 03 July 2003 15:16, Duane Winner wrote:
> > Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on
> > the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about?
> 
> The bf2.4 is a 2.4 kernel that's built for compatibility so it can be used on 
> install- and rescue-disks on a wide variety of systems. It will run pretty 
> well, but you're missing some optimizations.
Sorry to be a pest, but what optimizations am I missing?
What would be the ideal kernel to be running on production servers?
I'm guessing that I should be compiling my own kernel in these
instances.
But until I reach that point (compiling kernel), is there a better
stable kernel I might want to install?
And when I do compile, what's the best/latest/stable kernel source I
should grab?

Thanks again.




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