lilo vga= problems after new kernel build
Hi, Just built a new 2.4.22 kernel.(Previous one was the standard installation 2.4.18-bf2.4) It's working as expected but my vga=790 setting in lilo makes trouble. * If set, my display won't show anything: black is black ;-) * If unset, all boot messages re-appear, as does xdm and I can log in and enjoy fluxbox. This is kind of annoying because I like my consoles at 1024x768. Could someone help me out here? PS: I did not play with the frame buffer (not activated during kernel setup) and I did check the proper option for lilo vga settings (during kernel setup) -- .''`'. Olivier Robert : :' :# cat Earth | sed -e s/microsoft/debian/g > Better_World `. `'` `- Debian - Just GNU it! _ Envie de discuter en "live" avec vos amis ? Télécharger MSN Messenger http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/m la 1ère messagerie instantanée de France -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xine runs slow when watching DVDs
Peter Nuttall wrote: I am trying to use xine to watch DVDs but It keeps jerking and dropping frames. I have a Athon 2000XP processor and 256MB of RAM which I think should be OK. the graphics card is a NVIDIA TNT2 using the nvidia drivers. You probably need to turn on 32-bit addressing and/or DMA on the CDROM drive. hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hdc (Use with care; see "man hdparm" for further info; assuming cdrom drive is on /dev/hdc). -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get -t unstable install gnome fails with unmet dependencies
This is a fresh install of debian. I have edited my preferences and sources.list to be just like those on another system that worked in January. I just tried it on the other system and it fails there too. The apt-get -t unstable install gnome fails saying that there are dependencies that will not be installed. Is this broken? How can I get it to work? Thanks, Adam __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok
* Shyamal Prasad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030816 13:59]: > "Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rupert> Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rupert> Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 12:25:16AM +0100, > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >>> Running strace telnet localhost 22 shows that it's trying > >> to >>> resolve the hostname localhost by querying the > >> nameserver. I >>> thought that shouldn't happen with my setup, > >> though. > > >> >> Does your /etc/host.conf contain order hosts,bind > > Rupert> Yes, it does. > > >> I did not see the original post, but the other thing you must > >> have is that /etc/hosts must resolve local host to 127.0.0.1 > >> too > > Rupert> Yes, I have this. Here is another list of things I think > Rupert> could be relevant. > > Hi Rupert, > > The mystery deepens since I looked at your configs and compared with > mine, and they are the same. The thing is, uh, when I run strace I see > the same thing happen. I can see a query going to my local name > server. I bet this has to do with that localhost doesn't have any dots, and ndots defaults to 1. So the first thing it tries to look up is localhost. where is either the "domain" or the first item of "search" in resolv.conf. Can you tell from strace's output if this is correct? try using "telnet localhost." or adding something like "localhost.localdomain" in your /etc/hosts and see if using that name instead avoids the delay. > Incidentally, ssh does not do this odd lookup and works exactly how > I'd have expected telnet to. That is weird. I haven't looked at the code yet, to compare how each does their resolving. Perhaps ssh is using getaddrinfo and telnet is using gethostbyname, or they're setting different RES options, or something. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- http://www.eff.org/ Defending freedom in the digital world pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up
--ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:58:46PM +0100, Sarah Forbes wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I > boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in > manager displays. >=20 > Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot > process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot > disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in. There is a very simple way to do this. Simply hold control-C towards the end of the bootup sequence (before the display manager comes up) it will kill the last few bootup tasks as they are coming up. The next easiest way is to ssh into that box from another computer and disable gdm from starting up on the next boot. This would require sshd to be running already. The "least" easy way (still not that hard) is to use a boot disk to boot into single user mode. Bijan --=20 Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.crasseux.com --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/S8onUof+95vTyAwRAuDeAKCPSGbuz3nP2mr5T/RpXJsVPr/ekwCbBHmz qUhiNXfbx2z6Z/87tpiUr98= =7GoO -END PGP SIGNATURE- --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xine runs slow when watching DVDs
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 9:09 pm, John wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 06:21:28PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > > I am trying to use xine to watch DVDs but It keeps jerking and dropping > > frames. I have a Athon 2000XP processor and 256MB of RAM which I think > > should be OK. the graphics card is a NVIDIA TNT2 using the nvidia > > drivers. I have included both the output of xvinfo and the file > > ~/.xine/config if that helps. I am sorry the email is so large but I was > > not sure what was needed. > > Yo pete!! > > Many people forget to enable dma on their dvdroms. Man hdparm & look at > the '-d' option > Also, have you tried ogle to watch dvds? > John Yo John!! problem fixed now by your suggestion . And yes, I have tried ogle but the thing about xine is you can make the interface go away by clicking with the middle button and you can't do this with ogle. thank you for helping pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Power off
My computer doesn't switch off upon 'shutdown -h now', so I looked around on the net and found: To switch the power off on shutdown in Linux: - Compile apm into the kernel - Add the following line in /etc/lilo.conf: append="apm=on apm=power-off" - Enter 'lilo' on the command prompt Did that (kernel 2.4.21). Result: boot procedure hangs, the last printed line says: apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16) I checked only 'apm' in the kernel config menu, none of the subsequent items. I didn't install the apm package of the Debian distribution, because I wouldn't like an additional deamon just for powering off my desktop, if it is not really necessary. Any comment? - Frank Hrebabetzky Tel.: +55 / 48 / 235 1106 Florianopolis +55 / 48 / 9998 7686 Brazil email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xine runs slow when watching DVDs
> I am trying to use xine to watch DVDs but It keeps jerking and dropping > frames. I have a Athon 2000XP processor and 256MB of RAM which I think should Have you made sure u enabled DMA / PIO for your DVD-drive? Debian does not do this by default. I had the same symptoms a while ago. Do an apt-get install hdparm and read its manpage (man hdparm). Most simple settings for hdparm should be something like: hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hd.d/S99hdparm or something similar. You can lookup your default runlevel at the top of /etc/initab. Also, figure out the correct settings for your harddrive(s). This litlle program can give you a very very nice performance boost if you weren't using it before! See the manpage for details. If you need more assistence, post your question here. Good luck, hope this helps ya out! Pim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dealing with TNEF at the MTA/MDA level
Hi Martin, not exactly what you're after, but might get you started. Bye, Stefan -- It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. -- Thomas Jefferson jh-msbloat.rc Description: jh-msbloat.rc
Re: xine runs slow when watching DVDs
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 8:15 pm, Pim Bliek wrote: > > I am trying to use xine to watch DVDs but It keeps jerking and dropping > > frames. I have a Athon 2000XP processor and 256MB of RAM which I think > > should > > Have you made sure u enabled DMA / PIO for your DVD-drive? Debian does > not do this by default. I had the same symptoms a while ago. > > Do an apt-get install hdparm and read its manpage (man hdparm). > Most simple settings for hdparm should be something like: > > hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hd > Don't forget to create a script to automagically start this at boottime, > name it hdparm, place it in /etc/init.d and place a symlink in > /etc/rc.d/S99hdparm or something similar. You can lookup > your default runlevel at the top of /etc/initab. > > Also, figure out the correct settings for your harddrive(s). This litlle > program can give you a very very nice performance boost if you weren't > using it before! See the manpage for details. If you need more > assistence, post your question here. > > Good luck, hope this helps ya out! > > Pim thanks it's running fine now pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unstable Dep. prevent config. of 5 xserver-xfree86 files
Starting with a net install I'm attempted last night to go from a c.d. initiated, net installed, base system directly to the unstable distribution. After the base install I added a few essential tools: mc vim aptitude mutt discover hotplug and mdetect. Then I changed my /etc/apt/source.list to unstable from stable. Apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. Aptitude was used to select x-window system, gnome and kde. I'm stuck. Have I installed something that conflicts? Should I have just configured x in stable or testing, them upgraded? This method should have worked? 5 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up xserver-common (4.2.1-10) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-common.postinst: line 263: /var/lib/xfree86/Xwrapper.config.roster: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing xserver-common (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xfree86: xserver-xfree86 depends on xserver-common (>= 4.2.1-10); however: Package xserver-common is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing xserver-xfree86 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of x-window-system-core: x-window-system-core depends on xserver-xfree86; however: Package xserver-xfree86 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing x-window-system-core (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xnest: xnest depends on xserver-common; however: Package xserver-common is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing xnest (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of x-window-system: x-window-system depends on x-window-system-core; however: Package x-window-system-core is not configured yet. x-window-system depends on xnest; however: Package xnest is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing x-window-system (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: xserver-common xserver-xfree86 x-window-system-core xnest x-window-system E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Linux version 2.6.0-test2-1-386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.1 20030626 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Sat Aug 2 10:49:01 EST 2003 Kind regards Dan Hunt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT -- generating colored-text PDFs via perl
i tried
apt-get install libpdf-api2-perl
which didn't find any such module to install, of course,
so i nabbed it via "perl -MCPAM -e 'shell'" instead...
OFF TOPIC --
this is debian-land, i realize -- but i'm hoping some of you
knowledgeable folks can point me to the right group or e-list:
i'm trying to generate pdf's, using perl, outputting file-folder
labels with COLORED TEXT. (lastname teal, location blue, etc)
perl
generating pdfs
with colored text
so far i've rubbed my eyeballs over PDF::Report and PDF::API2::*
and Text::PDF and seem to have missed it. i've got the
PDF::Report::drawPieGraph to work, but the only colors are in
the slices, not in the legend text. i copied that function and
(hoping to colorize the legend text) altered it thus:
foreach my $nbr (0 .. $#perc) {
$self->addRawText($rLabels->[$nbr], $left+$colorblocksize+3,$
$pos-$colorblocksize,
# specify color, just as the manual sez:
$clr[$cnt]);
$self->shadeRect($left+1, $pos, $left+1+$colorblocksize,$
$pos-$colorblocksize, $clr[$cnt++]);
$pos-=$fontsize;
}$
to no avail. probably a bug? so i also tried the brute-force-and
-awkwardness approach:
foreach my $nbr (0 .. $#perc) {
# try a color for the following text:
$gfx->fillcolor($clr[$cnt]);
$self->addRawText($rLabels->[$nbr], $left+$colorblocksize+3,$
$pos-$colorblocksize);$
# do the fill
$gfx->fill;
$self->shadeRect($left+1, $pos, $left+1+$colorblocksize,$
$pos-$colorblocksize, $clr[$cnt++]);
$pos-=$fontsize;
}$
no good.
obviously my understanding falls short...
google.com/groups does bring up some newsgroup hits, but none
seem to pertain to coloring actual text streams.
pointers welcome.
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To SEARCH THE CONTENTS OF A TAR.GZ file without having to
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Ugly fonts in X11 after dist-upgrade to sarge
Hi all, I have woody installed and had good readable fonts in X11/KDE. Only Mozilla would us a font that was too big, but nice. Than I installed a set of packages required for a debian-course, and the fonts were just perfect! Even in mozilla. Just the right size and real sharp! After a dist-upgrade to sarge today, fonts are not good in X11/KDE and plain ugly in mozilla. Any hints what the upgrade did to break it? Thanks, Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xine runs slow when watching DVDs
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 06:21:28PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > I am trying to use xine to watch DVDs but It keeps jerking and dropping > frames. I have a Athon 2000XP processor and 256MB of RAM which I think should > be OK. the graphics card is a NVIDIA TNT2 using the nvidia drivers. I have > included both the output of xvinfo and the file ~/.xine/config if that helps. > I am sorry the email is so large but I was not sure what was needed. Yo pete!! Many people forget to enable dma on their dvdroms. Man hdparm & look at the '-d' option Also, have you tried ogle to watch dvds? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tool for sending Windows popup messages?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Vineet Kumar wrote: > --> Using this parameter will force the client to assume that the > --> server is on the machine with the specified IP address and the > --> NetBIOS name component of the resource being connected to will > --> be ignored. > >From what I've played with it, you still need a name for -M, but not for other smbclient services. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chattr and symlinks
* Johann Spies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030818 03:45]: > I have a disk space problem on my ftp-server. I have moved the "dists" > section of the debian archive to another disk and made a symlink to > the normal mirror. > > The mirror script (I am using rsync) now overwrites that symlink with > a normal directory. I want to prevent this and want rsync to follow > the symlink on the destination side. > > As I understand the rsync-manpage this is not possible. Am I correct? It looks like -L would do this in the other direction; if the symlink were on the source host, the destination would get the contents of the referent of the link in situ. I don't know of a way to have rsync follow the link on the target side, as you want. One way to accomplish this, though, would be to exclude that particular directory from the regular rsync run and then run a separate rsync just for that directory, with the target set to the corrected location. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- --Nick Moffitt A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help Please!!
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 12:28 pm, Kent West wrote: > >>Whoo-hoo! WHOO-HOO > To see if gpm is running, do a "ps ax | grep [g]pm"; you should get back > a line similar to: > 371 ?S 1:11 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t imps2 -r 25 -Rraw On the above got: 199 ? S 0:00 gpm start > If not, your gpm script is either not running or is failing. Try > "/etc/init.d/gpm start" to start gpm, and then either move the mouse or > do the above "ps" command again. If this works, that means the script is > not running for some reason on boot-up. Did the "/etc/init.d/gpm start The mouse did not move. So I put the Logitech mouse on and nothing would drive it at all in "gpmconfig". Then I got my two-button ps/2 mouse that I carry with my laptop. In "gpmconfig" it ran with "fups2". Restarted Debian and it still worked. Shut Debian right down and restarted and it still worked. Then I hit "startx", Window Maker came up and the mouse moved all over the screen. Whoooeee!! Deleted the "exit 0" on XDM and it booted graphically and the mouse has command of the screen. Thank you again Kent for all of your patient help. Debian would have been gone by now without it. Bill. William Bradley Come visit us at: http://www.catholicmissionleaflets.org Free Rosaries available at the above. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Please!!
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 01:08 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..ah, you just need to start the gpm service on bootup, 'man update-rc.d > ' for the gory details. ;-) > > ..and with X reading /dev/gpmdata, you don't need to restart > X, only gpm. ;-) Thank you Amt, finally I am up and running. Changed the mouse again and configured it "gpmconfig" and now it is stable and working. Bill. -- William Bradley Come visit us at: http://www.catholicmissionleaflets.org Free Rosaries available at the above. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?
Hi All, Is this just me or is the mailinglist server terribly slow? I sent a message to the list at 9:15 PM and I got it back 2 hours later around 11:20 PM So this is 2 full hours to process the email on the Debian server... Am I correct here? Does anyone know why? Has this something to do with Sobig.F? Luckily my ISP filters out Sobig.F for me, so this saves me the hassle ;). Regards, Pim Bliek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tool for sending Windows popup messages?
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Joe Emenaker wrote:
> Is there some Debian tool that would let me specify an IP and a message
> and it would handle the delivery without making me bother with finding
> out the NetBIOS name, etc.?
It's not what you want, but this might work.
No comments on the legality of what you want to do.
#!/bin/sh
# grabs the pcname using nmblookup and dumps it to a file.
nmblookup -A $1 | head --lines=2 | tail --lines=1 | awk '{print $1}' > pcname
# checks if the filesize is greater than one, which indicates something
# was written to it(like the remote pcname)
if [ `ls -l pcname | awk '{print $5}'` -gt 1 ]; then
echo "your statement on fixing" | smbclient -U yourname -I $1 -M `cat name`;
else
echo "Couldn't find servername(or Mike can't code)"
fi;
Call it with ./filename IP, of course.
It'll probably horribly break if it can't find some of this stuff, and my
redirect into a file called pcname is just ugly. So's the head/tail
thing, actually. You can clean it up and add your own error detection.
I'm sure I also won a useless use of cat award too. I'll put it in my
collection.
Someone have a way to clean that up, so it can be done in one chain?
Mike
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Re: Tool for sending Windows popup messages?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:49:44 -0700 Vineet Kumar wrote: > * Carlos Sousa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 07:25]: > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:53:47 -0700 Vineet Kumar wrote: > > > * Joe Emenaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030825 17:03]: > > > > Is there some Debian tool that would let me specify an IP and a > > > > message and it would handle the delivery without making me > > > > bother with finding out the NetBIOS name, etc.? > > > > > > Did you try smbclient's -I option? > > > > Seems to need the netbios name all the same. > > I haven't tried it I have. $ echo 'hello' | smbclient -M pc-049 added interface ip=127.0.0.1 bcast=127.255.255.255 nmask=255.0.0.0 added interface ip=192.168.0.1 bcast=192.168.0.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 Connected. Type your message, ending it with a Control-D sent 7 bytes $ echo 'hello' | smbclient -I 192.168.0.67 -M pc-049 added interface ip=127.0.0.1 bcast=127.255.255.255 nmask=255.0.0.0 added interface ip=192.168.0.1 bcast=192.168.0.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 Connected. Type your message, ending it with a Control-D sent 7 bytes $ echo 'hello' | smbclient -I 192.168.0.67 -M XX added interface ip=127.0.0.1 bcast=127.255.255.255 nmask=255.0.0.0 added interface ip=192.168.0.1 bcast=192.168.0.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 session request failed > , so I could be wrong, but: > ... > ... then so is the man page. Apparently. Cheers, -- Carlos Sousa http://vbc.dyndns.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [nospam.list@unclassified.de: Re: COBOL compiler]
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:10:35AM -0700, Deryk Barker wrote: > - Forwarded message from Yves Goergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > and, yes - i'm a student, too. (you may think of me what you > > stated above, it may be right or not) > > I'm afraid that he is correct that students do not have the > perspective that comes with experience in the field. Hardly their > fault, but they should be aware of their own limitations. Equally, the experienced should be wary of discounting the opinions of students for the sole reason that they are students. The best teacher I ever had used to say that it was the mark of a fine teacher to be able to cope with a student whose abilities exceeded their own. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style
Volunteers needed! http://debtoo.org = /dev/idal "GNU/Linux is free freedom" --Me __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP 712/60 questions
--YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:00:01AM -0400, Larry Crouch wrote: > I guess I have to load Linux onto one of > my PCs (I have a couple of Pentiums not > being used at the moment), load the Linux > sources, run the cross-compiler with certain > options to create a lifimage and then enable > a DHCP daemon so the HP box can boot > from it. >=20 > Is this the path or am I completely offbase. The idea of instaling Linux on a PC and then using that to netboot the HP computers is sound. However I don't recommend crosscompiling linux unless you have lots of experience with Unix/Linux. I've installed Debian on a sparc system by booting off the network using a precompiled boot image I got from the debian ftp server. I recommend that you find such a precompiled image for the architecture you wish to install on. This process is described in the installation manual for the hppa architecture. Hope this helps, Bijan --=20 Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.crasseux.com --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/S8vtUof+95vTyAwRAgiVAKCmQoFtXO5K0Ywi0f2+0l4aK49/1ACgq5D7 tD6PPPO9IDm08S06jKzqfYI= =kOP7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Debian on Dell 8300
Hi everybody, I am going to install Woody 3.0R1 (kernel version 2.4.18) on a brand new dell 8300. When trying to install the same on a dell 2350 a few months ago, I had several problems mostly because it was my first time experimenting with linux and I was not familiar with this user list. So this time I want to get it right with fewer snags and morever I want to tailor the kernel to my hardware. Here are the specs of my machine: Video: nVidia GeForce FX 5200 DVD/CD: NEC DVD+RW and LITEON DVD-ROM Network: Intel Pro/100 VE and Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Audio: Creative SB Live! USB: Intel 82801 controllers The system has a wireless keyboard and mouse and the reciever connects via USB, so I do need the USB connections. I have several questions: 1. Has anyone actually installed debian on this machine and what has their experience been? 2. Given what I'm trying to do, can anybody foresee problems that I may face, eg. display setup, driver support issues, etc? 3. I know that I will not be able to do a network install because the Intel pro/100 card is only supported in kernel version 2.4.21 and later. The version of woody I have burned on CD's has kernel version 2.4.18. So I think after installing, I am going to have to burn the newer kernel on a CD to upgrade the just installed kernel. Is there a better way to do this? Thanks in advance for your suggestions and tips. ... salman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cloning Debian hard drive
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.gz Peter Nuttall said: > On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 4:27 pm, Victory wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Now I have a working system, and want to clone it hard drive >> so that I can install the newly clone hard drive to many identical >> system configuration rather than install from CD and customize lots of >> stuff ??? >> >> 1, Is there way to clone this hard drive ? >> >> 2, Is it possible to create bootable CD of the working system so that >> when I boot to new system from CD it will install exact the same >> with the working system I have now. >> >> Any help/advice would be very much appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> Victor > > hi > > on 1: > If it were me and I wanted to do this once I would put the hard disk in > the > working system, format the disk with cfdisk, and then just use konqueror > to > copy the whole file system over. This is a btute force method and someone > else of the mailing list will have something easier and more elangant. > > on 2: > > I guess that there is something to do this but the only thing I can > suggest is > the progeny autoinstall thingy. > > sorry that I have not been very helpful > > pete > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icmp filtering (was: ssh tunneling)
* P. Kallakuri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 11:06]: > by default ICMP traffic is disabled and when i setup a firewall in our > research lab about 3 years back, thats how i left it. our research > machines were open on the internet when we got a series of nasty > infiltration attempts. i could not figure out why someone would do that > with research computers in the university system. anyways we had years > of valuable research data on the machines that were being compromised, > so i (having got nothing to do with networking or administration) read > about and setup this gateway/firewall. i was aware that disabling ICMP > would keep outside machines wondering whatever happened to their > traffic. but if thats what it takes to keep out some guy who runs a > "find-all-live-hosts" discovery script (thats how most of the machines > in our university system were hacked into), then we have to do it. our > tech guys really don't bother about research networks. but really if > there is a more effective mechanizm to keep intruders from knowing > whether a hack-candidate exists, i would be more than willing to do that. This practice of trying to become invisible is known as "security through obscurity". There is no inherent danger in being pingable, and there is no inherent security in not being pingable. There are myriad other ways to tell if a host is up on a given address. (An ICMP ping just happens to be a very convenient way to do it. It's one of the first things everyone checks when they're experiencing connectivity problems. Disabling this just makes the troubleshooting process awkward and more difficult.) I highly doubt that ping had anything to do with the intrusion you experienced. The right tactic is to find the security hole and plug it, not to hide and hope that your security holes go unnoticed. You're correct; you probably weren't being targeted specifically by an enemy. More likely, you were the victim of a "script kiddie" who was scanning as many hosts as possible and trying a known exploit against them. Generally, though, disabling icmp isn't going to help you in this situation. A script kiddie isn't going to ping a bunch of hosts and then decide which ones to try the exploit on; he'll just try the exploit on the hosts in the first pass. Some will work, some won't. Whether or not you've disabled icmp, if you're vulnerable, you're vulnerable. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- http://www.aclu.org/It's all about Freedom. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
netenv configuration
I'm trying to work my way through the configuration examples for netenv with my laptop: http://netenv.sourceforge.net/netenv-en.html#config but I'm not sure how to configure my system from these examples. I currently have two configurations: AT HOME - DHCP ethernet (typically wireless) - CUPS connection to the printer Config file looks like this: netenv_id=At_home export IPADDR=192.168.1.100 export NETWORK=192.168.1.0 export NETMASK=255.255.255.0 export BROADCAST=192.168.1.255 export GATEWAY=192.168.1.1 export PROFILE=default (This is the default install from when I installed debian, I think. My router is DHCP, but it seems to have no problems with me picking my own IP address.) AWAY - no ethernet - no printer Config file looks like this: netenv_id=No_Ethernet # there is not internet/ethernet connection in this mode STARTMODE=manual This is what I'm confused about: - When I'm "at home" netenv is the first thing that loads when I boot my computer--but my wireless card isn't loaded so netenv wastes time trying to find a connection to the internet. What do I need to add to the configuration to get my wireless card (which is an orinoco card using the pcmcia-cs packages) to load so that netenv can find the internet? - I currently start fetchmail by hand depending on whether or not I have an internet connection. I would like to add this variable to the netenv config files so that fetchmail starts picking up mail IF I'm "at home". Right now I'm not using a system-wide fetchmail, just one that's configured through my home directory ~/.fetchmailrc (I'm not sure if that makes sense...). - When I'm "away" I don't want the CUPS server running. It's not that it's a bad thing, I just don't need it. How do I tell netenv not to bother starting the CUPS server if I'm "away"? I also don't want fetchmail running if there isn't an internet connection (which is my current default). Thanks for your suggestions on this configuration problem, emma :) -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: COBOL compiler
> On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:05, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > At 2003-08-26T14:25:32Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > For a "Hello, World" program, or an OS, or a graphics toolkit, even > > > Admiral Hooper would not say that COBOL is the proper tool. OTOH, for > > > large commercial apps, COBOL is far and away the best tool for the > > > job. . . . > > > > From: Ron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:47 PM > To: Debian-User > Subject: Re: COBOL compiler > > The greatness of COBOL is the fact that it is a honed tool. Just > as C is great for low-level work, COBOL is *designed* to move, > process, sort, summarize, etc. fixed-length records around. > > For example, COBOL has intrinsic constructs for easily handling > ISAM files in a variety of manners. Likewise, there is a very > powerful intrinsic SORT verb. > Yes, but how does that compare with similarly powerful features in Perl? -- David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:46:37 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The greatness of COBOL is the fact that it is a honed tool. Just > as C is great for low-level work, COBOL is *designed* to move, > process, sort, summarize, etc. fixed-length records around. Fixed-length or variable-length, isn't this what nowadays SQL is good for and good with? -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6 how-to
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:58:50 -0700 (PDT), James Horey wrote: > mount: /dev2/root2 is not a valid block device > mount: /dev2/root2 is not a valid block device > mount: you must specify the filesystem type > pivot_root: No such file or directory > /sbin/init: 196: cannot open dev/console: No such file > Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! > I also get this with loadlin although I am using a custom image, and both of us have different hardware and root fs. Strangely enough, lilo boots the same settings fine. I have reported about it on http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200308/msg04106.html. I wonder if you have a chance to try booting with lilo? I suspect it is a kernel or, less probable, an initrd-tools, problem. > Here's my grub entry: > > root (hd0,1) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.0-tes2-1-386 root=/dev/hda2 > ro > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.0-tes2-1-386 > > savedefault > boot > > Finally, here's my /etc/fstab: > > /dev/hda2 / ext3 defaults 0 1 > /dev/hda1 /home ext3 data=writeback 0 2 > /dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0 > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 > /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 > /dev/cdrom1 /cdrom1 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 > > I tried to boot the system with both the sysfs line > left in and out of fstab and as far as I could tell, > it made no difference. Thanks for any help! > What is sysfs? > Please CC me, as I am not subscribed to this list. > Thanks! > -- Shaul Karl,shaulk @ actcom . net . il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache and Postfix security
Victory! Today I put online my lab's new web/email server running Woody to replace the previous run running RH 9. I still have a few questions though. To start here is what I have running: apache, apache-ssl, mysql, sshd, inetd, ntpd, postfix, shorewall. >From the net I only allow in ports 22, 25, 80, and 443. I have hosts.deny as: ALL: ALL and hosts.allow as: sshd: ALL imapd: LOCAL I copied the configurations for apache and postfix from the previous machine and have setup shorewall with some pretty restrictive rules. However, my concern is that I may not have the most secure setup for apache and postfix. Just 5 minutes after I went online with the new server I was hit by someone trying to use us as an open relay. The log files show that the connections were utlimately rejected, but I want to make sure that I am not doing something dumb. Can anyone provide any pointers or good reading on proper security? -Roberto ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... http://messenger.yahoo.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tool for sending Windows popup messages?
* Carlos Sousa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 07:25]: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:53:47 -0700 Vineet Kumar wrote: > > * Joe Emenaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030825 17:03]: > > > Is there some Debian tool that would let me specify an IP and a > > > message and it would handle the delivery without making me bother > > > with finding out the NetBIOS name, etc.? > > > > Did you try smbclient's -I option? > > Seems to need the netbios name all the same. I haven't tried it, so I could be wrong, but: -I IP-address IP address is the address of the server to connect to. It should be specified in standard "a.b.c.d" notation. Normally the client would attempt to locate a named SMB/CIFS server by looking it up via the NetBIOS name resolution mecha- nism described above in the name resolve order parameter above. --> Using this parameter will force the client to assume that the --> server is on the machine with the specified IP address and the --> NetBIOS name component of the resource being connected to will --> be ignored. There is no default for this parameter. If not supplied, it will be determined automatically by the client as described above. ... then so is the man page. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- http://www.anti-dmca.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
w reports diffrent number of users than displayed
Hello, I'm running sid i386. When I ran w this morning I noticed that w was reporting a different number of users than it was actually showing me: 10:50:35 up 2 days, 15:52, 6 users, load average: 1.06, 1.12, 1.16 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT bmiller :0 -09:58 ?xdm? 2days 0.28s /usr/bin/gnome- bmiller pts/0:0.0 10:503.00s 0.00s 0.38s gnome-terminal Where are the other 4 users? I checked the bug reports for procps and didn't find anything. Is my system compromised? Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Brent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cloning Debian hard drive
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:27, Victory wrote: > Hello all, > > Now I have a working system, and want to clone it hard drive > so that I can install the newly clone hard drive to many identical > system configuration rather than install from CD and customize lots of > stuff ??? > > 1, Is there way to clone this hard drive ? if you have the package doc-linux-html installed, this link should help: file:///usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/copy.html -- First Impressions are Bunk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian security prb
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:03, Frédéric Aliotti wrote: > I have installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rl "Woody" Official i386. > I'm trying to use an application called Cyberdocs on this computer > : this application have to open OpenOffice.org to convert word > documents to XML. This process is triggered by a java application. > Everything is properly installed. First off, HTML mail to this list is frowned upon. Second Are you sure you have Java installed on the Machine? > My problem is that OpenOffice.org can't be oppened by Cyberdocs : > I get this message : java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused > ... > I don't have this problem when I use Redhat or Mandrake. > Maybe a security prb. Are you sure that you indeed have Java Properly installed this Debian machine? Exactly What version of Java are you using? Did you install it from a Debian package? Or from a tarball? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Wicked screensaver
Please do not reply to this message! This is an automatic error message generated by AUB VirusCheck Your message could not be delivered through the AUB mail gateway, as the attachement included in your message was infected with a virus. AUB VirusCheck is based on McAfee latest virus scan engine and data files. For virus detection, removal and details please check the following URL http://vil.mcafee.com/ If you do not understand this message please contact your PC support for assistance. If you are an AUBnet user please contact your lab assistant or PCNS at 2260 for support. --- The original message data was discarded, as it contained the following virus(es): 8/26/2003 7:43 PM 2 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Removable) Virus DAT definition: 4288. MESSAGE ID: 19rh1u-0004dW-00 -- Original Message Headers - Received: from [193.188.128.9] (helo=elissa.aub.edu.lb) Received: from wsip-68-99-154-77.ri.ri.cox.net ([68.99.154.77] helo=NECOGPEACEDALE) From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Wicked screensaver Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:50:59 --0400 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-AUBnet-Receipt: elissa.aub.edu.lb at 2003-08-26 18:50:53 X-AUBnet-Osender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- END of Message Headers - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does Debian support IDE disks with more than 128GiB or IDE48bit addressing?
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 22:51, Jose Manuel dos Santos Calhariz wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Samsung disk with 149GiB of space and my experience is > mixed. Okay here goes: I have a 2 - PDC 20265 based controllers in my machine. One on board, one PCI card. cya:~# uname -r 2.4.21-4-K7 cya:~# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 3296872852912 2276484 28% / /dev/hda1 116648 14411 96215 14% /boot /dev/hde1196015808 8380376 187569896 5% /exports/Monday /dev/hdf1196015808 8260916 187689356 5% /exports/Tuesday /dev/hdg1196015808 4189800 191760472 3% /exports/Wednesday /dev/hdh1196015808 4227144 191723128 3% /exports/Thursday /dev/hdi1196015808 4226176 191724096 3% /exports/Friday I was able to get the card to run in 2.4.19, 2.4.20 and 2.4.21. I never tried 2.4.18. But I think it would as I have also run other distros with older kernels. All using the the same Motherboard as you. This machine was taken out of service as an Engineering Workstation and re-deployed with 200GiB Drives. I did nothing special. Only thing I am doing is running Sid/Unstable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xine runs slow when watching DVDs
I am trying to use xine to watch DVDs but It keeps jerking and dropping
frames. I have a Athon 2000XP processor and 256MB of RAM which I think should
be OK. the graphics card is a NVIDIA TNT2 using the nvidia drivers. I have
included both the output of xvinfo and the file ~/.xine/config if that helps.
I am sorry the email is so large but I was not sure what was needed.
Thanks
pete
vidtune xvinfo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xvinfo
X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
Adaptor #0: "NV04 Video Overlay"
number of ports: 1
port base: 87
operations supported: PutImage
supported visuals:
depth 24, visualID 0x21
depth 24, visualID 0x23
depth 24, visualID 0x24
depth 24, visualID 0x25
depth 24, visualID 0x26
depth 24, visualID 0x27
depth 24, visualID 0x28
depth 24, visualID 0x29
depth 24, visualID 0x22
depth 24, visualID 0x2a
depth 24, visualID 0x2b
depth 24, visualID 0x2c
depth 24, visualID 0x2d
depth 24, visualID 0x2e
depth 24, visualID 0x2f
depth 24, visualID 0x30
number of attributes: 4
"XV_DOUBLE_BUFFER" (range 0 to 1)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 1)
"XV_COLORKEY" (range 0 to 16777215)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 66046)
"XV_AUTOPAINT_COLORKEY" (range 0 to 1)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 1)
"XV_SET_DEFAULTS" (range 0 to 0)
client settable attribute
maximum XvImage size: 2046 x 2046
Number of image formats: 4
id: 0x32595559 (YUY2)
guid: 59555932--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 16
number of planes: 1
type: YUV (packed)
id: 0x32315659 (YV12)
guid: 59563132--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 12
number of planes: 3
type: YUV (planar)
id: 0x59565955 (UYVY)
guid: 55595659--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 16
number of planes: 1
type: YUV (packed)
id: 0x30323449 (I420)
guid: 49343230--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 12
number of planes: 3
type: YUV (planar)
Adaptor #1: "NV05 Video Blitter"
number of ports: 32
port base: 88
operations supported: PutImage
supported visuals:
depth 24, visualID 0x21
depth 24, visualID 0x23
depth 24, visualID 0x24
depth 24, visualID 0x25
depth 24, visualID 0x26
depth 24, visualID 0x27
depth 24, visualID 0x28
depth 24, visualID 0x29
depth 24, visualID 0x22
depth 24, visualID 0x2a
depth 24, visualID 0x2b
depth 24, visualID 0x2c
depth 24, visualID 0x2d
depth 24, visualID 0x2e
depth 24, visualID 0x2f
depth 24, visualID 0x30
no port attributes defined
maximum XvImage size: 2046 x 2046
Number of image formats: 5
id: 0x32595559 (YUY2)
guid: 59555932--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 16
number of planes: 1
type: YUV (packed)
id: 0x32315659 (YV12)
guid: 59563132--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 12
number of planes: 3
type: YUV (planar)
id: 0x59565955 (UYVY)
guid: 55595659--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 16
number of planes: 1
type: YUV (packed)
id: 0x30323449 (I420)
guid: 49343230--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 12
number of planes: 3
type: YUV (planar)
id: 0x3
guid: 0300--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 32
number of planes: 1
type: RGB (packed)
depth: 0
red, green, blue masks: 0xff, 0xff00, 0xff
xine config
#
# xine config file
#
.version:1
# Windows stacking (more)
# bool, default: 0
gui.always_layer_above:0
# Amplification level
# [0..200], default: 100
gui.amp_level:100
# Visiblility behavior of panel
# bool, default: 0
gui.auto_panel_visibility:0
# Visibility behavior of output window
# bool, default: 0
gui.auto_video_output_visibility:0
# Event sender behavior
# bool, default: 1
gui.eventer_sticky:1
# Configuration experience level
# { Beginner Advanced Expert Master of the known universe }, default: 0
gui.experience_level:Beginner
# Windows stacking
# bool, default: 0
gui.layer_above:0
# Logo mrl
# string, default: file:/usr/share/xine/skins/xine-ui_logo.mpv
gui.logo_mrl:file:/usr/share/xine/skins/xine-ui_logo.mpv
# Enable OSD support
# bool, default: 1
gui.osd_enabled:1
# Dismiss OSD time (s)
# numeric, default: 3
gui.osd_timeout:3
# gui panel visibility
# bool, default: 1
gui.panel_visible:1
# numeric, default: 200
gui.panel_x:200
# numeric, default: 100
gui.panel_y:100
# Ask user for playback with unsupported codec
# bool,
OT: virus (was: ssh tunneling)
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 03:40, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:01:05AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> ..no rule witout exeption: these 2 minutes _are_ useful in tarpits, >> to help slow vira propagation: > > That's a new plural of "virus" to me ... > > ["viri" and "virii" are both wrong. The first is made up by assuming > that "virus" is a Latin masculine second declension noun, which it's > not (it's neuter), and "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and > means "men". The second is just utterly weird, though strangely > popular, and is constructed on top of a made-up second declension > noun, "virius". "vira" is probably better than anything else, > because at least it's neuter, but really seems more like the plural > of "virum". Anyway, there are no recorded instances of a Latin > plural of "virus", because its meaning back then was abstract and > not something you could really pluralize. The only English plural of > the word is simply "viruses". > > This concludes today's pedantry.] Sorry for being late, just some more pedantry: virus, -i n. (no plural) Coming from old-indian višám via old-greek viros (sorry, don't know how to enter the correct letters and accents) into latin. The greek word means simply "venom / poison", whereas the latin word can be translated as "slime", "poison", or as a metaphor for "slaver / foam / venom" (compare Vergilius: destillat ab inguine virus), the old-indian word on the other hand just had an abstract meaning. I'd think the English plural is "viruses", in German at least it is "Viren", and nothing else ;) Thanks to Mr. Schüller and Ms. Altenburg for six years of boring Latin lesson, and no, I still don't think Caesar was a great man. Back to work, sorry for pedantry, Flo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up
"captain kierkegaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > use the update-rc.d command, to stop the display managers from > starting, i used the following command: > # update-rc.d -f ?dm remove stop 1 2 3 4 5 6 > where the question mark is g, k, or x depending on which is starting > at boot. This is a bad idea; the next time the display manager package gets updated (say, for a security fix), update-rc.d will see a lack of symlinks for the service and conclude that it's never been installed, and handily start it for you. The /etc/rc?.d symlinks are definitely user-configurable; removing the appropriate start symlinks from /etc/rc2.d, etc. is a better idea. Or, if you don't want to use a display manager at all, just remove the package. (And since nobody else has suggested it, it might be possible to get into the machine remotely, too, maybe with ssh. A serial console is useful for this sort of problem too, but requires some advance setup, and the world contains comparatively few dumb terminals these days. :-) -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[nospam.list@unclassified.de: Re: COBOL compiler]
- Forwarded message from Yves Goergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > From: "Yves Goergen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: COBOL compiler > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:24:12 +0200 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Von: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:50, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > > At 2003-08-26T12:52:33Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL. In the hands of someone > > > > with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language. > > > > > > All Turing-complete languages are equally powerful. That doesn't mean that > > > any given one would fill me with a desire to start hacking around with it. > > > > > > You know, I'd never seen Cobol before the screenshots on your link. Those > > > just confirmed everything I've heard about it. :) > > > > For a "Hello, World" program, or an OS, or a graphics toolkit, even > > Admiral Hooper would not say that COBOL is the proper tool. OTOH, > > for large commercial apps, COBOL is far and away the best tool for > > the job. > > ehm, at my work, they have a real big host system. from what i've heard, it's > programming language is cobol, running under a specific IBM OS. i don't know a lot > of that stuff, but there'll be some good reasons why IBM did that. > > but my father (he knows cobol very well...) had massive problems > coming from cobol (DOS) to some more current windows > programming. from cobol, he has never seen > multi-tasking/multi-threading concepts nor (graphical) windows, a > mouse or even such principal programming language conepts as > functions (!). one must imagine, how can cobol be an easy to > understand and to maintain language if you're by design supposed to > write spaghetti code like it was once in gwbasic? You are not "supposed" to write spaghetti code, but is certainly possible. When I was programming COBOL (there is no such thing as cobol BTW) for a living, almost 30 years ago, we very well knew how to build well-structured code. > > IMHO any C/pascal-like language or partially still (visual) basic > seems far more fiendly to me. and i was involved in the developemt > of some bigger (partly commercial) applications now, and i must say > that VB and VC++ are very good tools for such. They seem more friendly because you are more familiar with them. I know people who feel exactly the opposite. No COBOL doesn't scale up particularly well (although the largest program I wrote in the language had 5,000 of PROCEDURE DIVISION) but neither do the C family nor the pascal family. There is no such thing as a universal programming language, well-suited to all tasks - IBM tried to create one 40 year ago, it was PL/1. > > and, yes - i'm a student, too. (you may think of me what you stated above, it > may be right or not) I'm afraid that he is correct that students do not have the perspective that comes with experience in the field. Hardly their fault, but they should be aware of their own limitations. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Please!!
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:51:15 -0400, William Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:58 am, Kent West wrote: > > > Whoo-hoo! > > bit premature it seems. (Sigh!) > > > Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat "raw" (either edit > > /etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig). > > When I set up "gpmconfig" with "fuimps" the mouse moves when I test > it. When I get out of "gpmconfig" it still works. > > However when I "shutdown -r now" when it reboots the mouse is dead > again. Thinking the gpm server is not working, I entered "#gpm" but > that did not change anything. > > Then I go back to "gpmconfig" and get it going again. Sometimes it > doesn't take on the first configuration and has to be done again and > then it will work. ..ah, you just need to start the gpm service on bootup, 'man update-rc.d ' for the gory details. ;-) ..and with X reading /dev/gpmdata, you don't need to restart X, only gpm. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:40:44PM +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: | Just compiled kernel 2.4.21 but cannot boot it | VFS: Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01 You probably forgot to include the driver for your hard disk when you built the kernel. Follow Joris' suggestion for enabling the driver for the most common type of disks. (BTW, I've done this before. It's a good way to learn to include the driver :-)) -D -- (A)bort, (R)etry, (T)ake down entire network? http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: other debian installer tactic?
alex wrote: Alfredo Valles wrote: Why is it that debian can not take a shortcut in the path for having a quick desktop installation? Why not to release a basic knoppix-like CD with the most common desktop applications that 99% of people would want?. Amen! Whover produced KNOPPIX has the right idea..a simple almost foolproof installation that provides just the basic necessities. Why should everyone who wants Debian be required make decisions during the installation about things that can be better accomplished after the basic Debian is installed?. Umm, partitioning is not better accomplished after the basic Debian is installed. But I understand your point, and can agree to it somewhat. However, the problem is not that Debian intentionally made the installation difficult; the problem is man- er, human-power. There's only so many developers working on Debian, and they're all volunteers, so they work on whatever projects catch their fancy. Until now, they've put less emphasis on the installation of Debian (after all, you only have to do it once) than on other aspects. I understand that with the next release, the installer will have considerable improvements. But it's still not likely to be exactly what you want, because the developers are committed to the goal of having Debian work on multiple architectures. What you're wanting is a distro that is smart enough to handle all the variants of x86 in a simple manner. Knoppix can do this, because Knopper spent the time and effort to get it to work well on x86. He could do this because he WANTED to, and because he didn't worry about the other 12 architectures or so that Debian works on. I'm sure that the Debian developers would like the same type of easy installer, but they WANT to spend their efforts on other aspects, and to make Debian multi-arthitecture, and since they're volunteers, they can do whatever they want to do. The only way this is going to change is to throw more developers at the problem who are willing to work on the installation routine. Whining at the current developers for volunteering their time/effort on other aspects when you want them to work on those aspects AND the installation routine ain't gonna help matters. What would help is to donate $40K-$120K a year to hire a full-time developer (maybe one or more of the current developers) to work with the Debian team on this problem. I know that not all problems can be solved by throwing money at them, but this particular problem could be. Open your wallet and watch your wishes be fulfilled. (Of course, when money gets involved, that creates a whole new set of problems, such as "Who's pulling the strings of the project?", etc, but we can burn that bridge when we get to it. Send money now. Only $50 a day, the price of a cup of coffee in 2045AD, could make a difference in your child's life, and in the life of other children around the world trying to install Debian. If it just saves one child from having to run "tasksel", it'll be worth it. It's for the children. Donate your paycheck today, before it's too late.) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:05, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-26T14:25:32Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > For a "Hello, World" program, or an OS, or a graphics toolkit, even > > Admiral Hooper would not say that COBOL is the proper tool. OTOH, for > > large commercial apps, COBOL is far and away the best tool for the job. > > I ask in seriousness: what would you define as a "large commercial app" that > would be appropriate for COBOL above all else? I have never actually seen > it used outside of legacy systems; is there something great I'm missing? 1st of all, I have to amend the phrase "large commercial app" to "data processing app". Accounting, payroll, claims processing, report generation, banking, etc are typical examples. Usually, they are large and relegated to back offices, but not always. Even 15 years ago, PCs were getting fast enough that some COBOL apps were being migrated onto PCs. The greatness of COBOL is the fact that it is a honed tool. Just as C is great for low-level work, COBOL is *designed* to move, process, sort, summarize, etc. fixed-length records around. For example, COBOL has intrinsic constructs for easily handling ISAM files in a variety of manners. Likewise, there is a very powerful intrinsic SORT verb. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA The purpose of the military isn't to pay your college tuition or give you a little extra income; it's to "kill people and break things". Surprisingly, not everyone understands that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh tunneling
Joyce, Matthew wrote: i am not able to connect to a vnc-server thats running behind the firewall. i know that the vncserver is running because i can open vncviewers from other clients behind the firewall. but when i ssh to the gateway from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the -L 5903:vncserver:5903 option and forward from the gateway to the vncserver using another ssh -L ..., i am not able to connect to the vncserver at port 5903 on localhost. with a RealVNC viewer, i get an error like "channel 2 or 4: administratively prohibited" and with You haven't said how you try to connect to your localhost on port 5903, but I use localhost:1, localhost:2, localhost:3 etc. Are you using the session number ? M thanks everyone for your responses. one thing that i was definitely doing wrong was that i was typing localhost:5903 instead of localhost:03. its been a while since i have used vnc and i did get rusty! about the ICMP filtering, here's an excerpt from the "stronger rc.firewall example - 2.4.x" from the Linux IP Masquerade website. # external interface, from any source, for ICMP traffic is valid # # If you would like your machine to "ping" from the Internet, # enable this next line # #$IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -p ICMP -s $UNIVERSE -d $EXTIP -j ACCEPT by default ICMP traffic is disabled and when i setup a firewall in our research lab about 3 years back, thats how i left it. our research machines were open on the internet when we got a series of nasty infiltration attempts. i could not figure out why someone would do that with research computers in the university system. anyways we had years of valuable research data on the machines that were being compromised, so i (having got nothing to do with networking or administration) read about and setup this gateway/firewall. i was aware that disabling ICMP would keep outside machines wondering whatever happened to their traffic. but if thats what it takes to keep out some guy who runs a "find-all-live-hosts" discovery script (thats how most of the machines in our university system were hacked into), then we have to do it. our tech guys really don't bother about research networks. but really if there is a more effective mechanizm to keep intruders from knowing whether a hack-candidate exists, i would be more than willing to do that. -kp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem in using pptp-linux
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:22:22 +0800, James Ng Yuen Sum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > I have to form the VPN(virtual private network) with my school to > access my homework and newsgroup of my school. > Therefore, i have downloaded the pptp-linux and following the > instruction of my school's homepages which tell you how to config the > pptp-linux. > After i have downloaded and installed (with apt-get install > pptp-linux), i have added the following line in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets: > name vpn.xxx.xxx.xxx password, which name is the user name, > vpn.xxx.xxx.xxx is the sites and password is the user's password in my > school. > Then i have replaced the content of the options with the following > line > > lock > debug > mtu 1000 > nobsdcomp > nodeflate > noaccomp > nopcomp > novj > defaultroute > name > > Then the websites recommand me to form a script to access the vpn, the > content is the following: > > #bin/sh > /*pptp *vpn.xxx.xxx.xxx* > debug > name *xxx* > remotename *vpn.xxx.xxx.xxx* > noipdefault > */ > > Finally, i change the permission of this script > chmod u+x (name of the script) > > ./connect: line 3: pptp: command not found > ./connect: line 4: debug: command not found > ./connect: line 5: name: command not found > ./connect: line 6: remotename: command not found > ./connect: line 7: noipdefault: command not found > > I do not know what wrong with my pptp-linux. Can anyone suggest how to > config to address this problem? > > Regards, > James Ng ..James, also check with the guys at the poptop list, I cc'ed this there, I recommend discussing this in both groups, as both poptop debian support and vice versa, could use improvement. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Please!!
William Bradley wrote: On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:58 am, Kent West wrote: Whoo-hoo! bit premature it seems. (Sigh!) Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat "raw" (either edit /etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig). When I set up "gpmconfig" with "fuimps" the mouse moves when I test it. When I get out of "gpmconfig" it still works. However when I "shutdown -r now" when it reboots the mouse is dead again. Thinking the gpm server is not working, I entered "#gpm" but that did not change anything. To see if gpm is running, do a "ps ax | grep [g]pm"; you should get back a line similar to: 371 ?S 1:11 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t imps2 -r 25 -Rraw If not, your gpm script is either not running or is failing. Try "/etc/init.d/gpm start" to start gpm, and then either move the mouse or do the above "ps" command again. If this works, that means the script is not running for some reason on boot-up. Then I go back to "gpmconfig" and get it going again. Sometimes it doesn't take on the first configuration and has to be done again and then it will work. This is just weird. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux - CDR
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 4:19 pm, David Z Maze wrote: > Li-Ren Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm somewhat new to linux in general. I was just wondering what was a > > good tool for burning/ripping cd's (audio and bin/cue). > > For ripping CDs, I use abcde, which is a fairly nice console-based > tool that looks at a CD, gets cddb information on what CD it is and > what tracks are there, rips it (using cdparanoia), and then encodes to > Ogg Vorbis. For burning, I've generally used mkisofs and cdrecord > directly. > > -- > David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ > "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." > -- Abra Mitchell both of the tools mentioned above are command line tools. if you use kde you might prefer k3b (for burning) and kaudiocreater (for ripping). pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:24, Yves Goergen wrote: > Von: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:50, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > > At 2003-08-26T12:52:33Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL. In the hands of someone > > > > with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language. > > > > > > All Turing-complete languages are equally powerful. That doesn't mean that > > > any given one would fill me with a desire to start hacking around with it. > > > > > > You know, I'd never seen Cobol before the screenshots on your link. Those > > > just confirmed everything I've heard about it. :) > > > > For a "Hello, World" program, or an OS, or a graphics toolkit, even > > Admiral Hooper would not say that COBOL is the proper tool. OTOH, > > for large commercial apps, COBOL is far and away the best tool for > > the job. > > ehm, at my work, they have a real big host system. from what i've > heard, it's programming language is cobol, running under a specific > IBM OS. i don't know a lot of that stuff, but there'll be some > good reasons why IBM did that. > > but my father (he knows cobol very well...) had massive problems > coming from cobol (DOS) to some more current windows programming. > from cobol, he has never seen multi-tasking/multi-threading concepts > nor (graphical) windows, a mouse or even such principal programming If he's used a mainframe OS, he's used a multi-tasking OS, and he knows it full well. His green-screen is/was single-tasking, but heck, so were the teletypes & VT-100s used by early minicomputer programmers. > language conepts as functions (!). one must imagine, how can cobol > be an easy to understand and to maintain language if you're by design > supposed to write spaghetti code like it was once in gwbasic? When I programmed in COBOL-74 (unless your father retired in 1975, he's used it), I used *many* procedure (a.k.a. sub-program) calls. The COBOL-74 that I learned in University was hell, since the books tried to teach GOTO-less methods for a language that *needed* the GOTO to be rational. When I got into the Real World, I relearned COBOL-74 from truly excellent men who knew how to use COBOL-74's strengths to ensure that source code written in COBOL-74 does not have to look like an explosion at an Italian restaurant. > IMHO any C/pascal-like language or partially still (visual) basic > seems far more fiendly to me. and i was involved in the developemt > of some bigger (partly commercial) applications now, and i must > say that VB and VC++ are very good tools for such. Some time after I left the COBOL job, I was employed writing C in an app that screamed for COBOL. I'd say that 1/5th of the SLOCs, and most of the bugs, were of the form: strncpy(really_long_variable, another_long_variable, sizeof(another_long_variable)); By commercial, I meant record-oriented "data processing" type software, not programs sold in stores and catalogs or by sales people. > and, yes - i'm a student, too. (you may think of me what you > stated above, it may be right or not) -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "As the night fall does not come at once, neither does oppression. It is in such twilight that we must all be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." Justice William O. Douglas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cloning Debian hard drive
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 4:27 pm, Victory wrote: > Hello all, > > Now I have a working system, and want to clone it hard drive > so that I can install the newly clone hard drive to many identical > system configuration rather than install from CD and customize lots of > stuff ??? > > 1, Is there way to clone this hard drive ? > > 2, Is it possible to create bootable CD of the working system so that > when I boot to new system from CD it will install exact the same > with the working system I have now. > > Any help/advice would be very much appreciated. > > Regards, > Victor hi on 1: If it were me and I wanted to do this once I would put the hard disk in the working system, format the disk with cfdisk, and then just use konqueror to copy the whole file system over. This is a btute force method and someone else of the mailing list will have something easier and more elangant. on 2: I guess that there is something to do this but the only thing I can suggest is the progeny autoinstall thingy. sorry that I have not been very helpful pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP 712/60 questions
Hello, First of all I'm unfamiliar with Unix/Linux/Debian and such since I've been in the Windows world for many years. I came across 3 HP 712/60 workstations and figured this would be a good project to acquaint myself with Linux. The learning curve has been very substantial so please bear with me. The workstations have no floppy or CD drive. The only way to load PALO (I think that's the boot loader for Linux) is via a lifimage stored on a remote boot server. The HPs boot HPUX and then an application. I've seen the BOOT_ADMIN and ISL screens enough to turn auto boot off and verify that everything seems to be as discussed in various Debian web pages. I guess I have to load Linux onto one of my PCs (I have a couple of Pentiums not being used at the moment), load the Linux sources, run the cross-compiler with certain options to create a lifimage and then enable a DHCP daemon so the HP box can boot from it. Is this the path or am I completely offbase. Any help is appreciated. -- Larry Crouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: other debian installer tactic?
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 9:53 am, alex wrote: > Alfredo Valles wrote: > >I know this have been discussed many times. But I still not happy. (Sorry) > > > >Why is it that debian can not take a shortcut in the path for having a > > quick desktop installation? > > > >Why not to release a basic knoppix-like CD with the most common desktop > >applications that 99% of people would want?. Using a very basic installer > > and the hardware auto-detection of knoppix (or any other that works) it > > would clone itself to the hard disk in a few minutes. > >It would be possible to install the rest of the debian applications from > > the debian testing CDs anyway. > > > >I know that this wouldn't work in all platforms (most surely only in x86) > > but even if it is a very limited solution I think it worth been a valid > > debian subproject on his own. > >I think that the save in time that an approach like this produces is > > something to be taken seriously. > >I have installed debian for desktop purposes several times so in time it > >becomes boring, and there are many stupid details (about fonts, java, > > etc...) that I rather prefer not to hold in my mind. > > > >Now I live happily with a knoppix installed to hard disk, and fetching > > soft from the debian unstable branch, only thing is that there are a few > > upgrade conflicts in some packages, nothing too hard to work around. > >Many people is doing the same. > > > >What do you think? (Don't open fire with the magnum 45, please :-) > > > >Alfredo > > Amen! > > Whover produced KNOPPIX has the right idea..a simple almost > foolproof installation that provides > just the basic necessities. Why should everyone who wants Debian be > required make decisions during the > installation about things that can be better accomplished after the > basic Debian is installed?. why can't debian have more than one installer? after all we have more than one desktop, office suite, web browser and so on and so forth. I would not use dselect if you held a gun to my head, but lots of people do. I don't feel that these people are wrong in some way. if debian can be installed both as knoppix (giving you a working system in a short space of time) or using the woody installer (letting you configure it carefully) then both techniques should be used for their purpose. I find it hard to that one installer fits all people's wants and needs. I think the use of knoppix as a installer should be pushed to people just starting out with debian but that the old one should be kept for the experts and the people with lots of time on their hands. pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Debian-based distro
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 12:12, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:00:46PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [You seem to be breaking attributions - who said this?] > > > > Why can't the installer ask what the CPU is and if it's an x86 then use > > > kudzu and if it isn't don't? Wouldn't that work on all platforms? Or > > > can't an x86 CPU be reliably detected? > > > > It might work. > > It would clearly work; there's a separate installer build for every > architecture! > > > But it blows off the ideology of consistency. > > I disagree; I think it's fine for the i386 installer to behave a little > differently, particularly in inherently architecture-specific things > like hardware detection. I think the debian-installer people think so > too and will be using discover for automatic hardware detection at least > on i386. > > Cheers, > > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd also offer that unlike most other platforms, only IA-32 processor-based systems currently operates with a reasonably consistent memory architecture but wide ranging off the shelf plug-in hardware at this point. Compare that to M68K systems where each vendor tended to have relatively limited add-on hardware (generally only from that vendor,) but there were significantly different internal memory designs from one vendor to the next. When faced with those different considerations of the environment encountered for hardware detection, do you doubt that it could be anything but complicated? -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 1:58 pm, Sarah Forbes wrote: > Hi, > > I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I > boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in > manager displays. > > Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot > process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot > disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in. > > If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to disable > in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them. > > Many Thanks > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Forbes > Web Programmer > Highbury House Communications PLC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 01322 660070 ext: 2535 > > > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. It > may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may > it be copied in any way. If you are not the addressee indicated in the > message, (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you > may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should > destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please > advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to internet > emails of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this > message that do not relate to the official business of this organisation > shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. We Believe, But do > not warrant that this e-mail and any attachments, are virus free. You > should take full responsibility for virus checking hi you could try booting from the first install cd. at the boot: prompt type rescue and it will try to boot from the kernel on the disk with /dev/hda1 as the root partiton. it might not work if you have ext3 or resier as your file system. I think this will give you the command line. peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:58:46 +0100, "Sarah Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When > I boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in > manager displays. > > Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot > process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot > disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in. > > If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to > disable in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them. > > Many Thanks > Sarah ..generally, boot like: 'linux 1' or 'linux single', 'linux rescue' or somesuch, where "linux" is the boot stanza title and the "1" is the runlevel, play around. ..myself, I like console acreage, so I append stuff like 'vga=788' to 'vga=799', and 'vga=ask' when in doubt. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux - CDR
Li-Ren Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm somewhat new to linux in general. I was just wondering what was a > good tool for burning/ripping cd's (audio and bin/cue). For ripping CDs, I use abcde, which is a fairly nice console-based tool that looks at a CD, gets cddb information on what CD it is and what tracks are there, rips it (using cdparanoia), and then encodes to Ogg Vorbis. For burning, I've generally used mkisofs and cdrecord directly. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cloning Debian hard drive
Hello all, Now I have a working system, and want to clone it hard drive so that I can install the newly clone hard drive to many identical system configuration rather than install from CD and customize lots of stuff ??? 1, Is there way to clone this hard drive ? 2, Is it possible to create bootable CD of the working system so that when I boot to new system from CD it will install exact the same with the working system I have now. Any help/advice would be very much appreciated. Regards, Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIOS reports more memory than kernel finds
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Re: COBOL compiler
Von: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:50, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > At 2003-08-26T12:52:33Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL. In the hands of someone > > > with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language. > > > > All Turing-complete languages are equally powerful. That doesn't mean that > > any given one would fill me with a desire to start hacking around with it. > > > > You know, I'd never seen Cobol before the screenshots on your link. Those > > just confirmed everything I've heard about it. :) > > For a "Hello, World" program, or an OS, or a graphics toolkit, even > Admiral Hooper would not say that COBOL is the proper tool. OTOH, > for large commercial apps, COBOL is far and away the best tool for > the job. ehm, at my work, they have a real big host system. from what i've heard, it's programming language is cobol, running under a specific IBM OS. i don't know a lot of that stuff, but there'll be some good reasons why IBM did that. but my father (he knows cobol very well...) had massive problems coming from cobol (DOS) to some more current windows programming. from cobol, he has never seen multi-tasking/multi-threading concepts nor (graphical) windows, a mouse or even such principal programming language conepts as functions (!). one must imagine, how can cobol be an easy to understand and to maintain language if you're by design supposed to write spaghetti code like it was once in gwbasic? IMHO any C/pascal-like language or partially still (visual) basic seems far more fiendly to me. and i was involved in the developemt of some bigger (partly commercial) applications now, and i must say that VB and VC++ are very good tools for such. and, yes - i'm a student, too. (you may think of me what you stated above, it may be right or not) -- Yves Goergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please don't CC me (causes double mails) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting large Windows ME disk?
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:20:23 -0600, Larry Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Arnt, > > Thanks for the suggestions. Some responses: > > > ..ntfs? No hardware problem such as fried chips? > > -t ntfs doesn't help (and an ntfs filesystem wouldn't mount under ME > anyway). The drive works fine in the Windows machine (I put it back > after my failure to mount it), so probably not fried chips. > > > ..your box supports disks this big? I had to update bios for 2 of > > mine. > > I updated to the current BIOS from Dell before trying anything. The > machine is a Dell Dimension XPS R400, and the BIOS version is A13. > Since fdisk and friends see the correct size (80GB), I don't think the > BIOS is likely to be the problem. > > > ..dd, split, cat and a cd or dvd toaster and its docs is a viable > > way in the _ugly_ case. > > Like I said, if I can't find a solution in a few days, I will just buy > a new 80GB disk and format it from scratch (they're only about $80 > delivered -- much cheaper than a DVD burner, and I'd hate to think of > the hassle of making and transfering 50GB+ on CDs!). > > But it sure is frustrating not to be able get it to mount ..ok, while we wait for all the messages to rebuilt this thread, do you see anything exiting in 'fdisk -l' and 'sfdisk -l'? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh tunneling
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:50:52 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:38:40AM -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:01:05AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..no rule witout exeption: these 2 minutes _are_ useful in > > > > tarpits, to help slow vira propagation: > > > > > > That's a new plural of "virus" to me ... > > > > > > [ SNIP explanation of latin plurals ] > > > > > > This concludes today's pedantry.] > > > > I enjoy my daily dose of pedantry. > > > > However, the way I was taught it was that `virus' was already a > > plural /did not have a plural in latin. > > As I said: > > > > Anyway, there are no recorded instances of a Latin plural of > > > "virus", because its meaning back then was abstract and not > > > something you could really pluralize. ..for the benefit of enhanced pedantry, chances are I picked up this viral term in some dinner conversation, my mom spent most of her career typing stuff like autopsy reports in a vet and food quality audit office for the govt., so it likely has a legalese or bureaucratese background, possibly related to the requrement of distinguishing between species of vira, ;-) , anyhow, it stuck, and you know families trade war stories at dinner. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
At 2003-08-26T14:25:32Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For a "Hello, World" program, or an OS, or a graphics toolkit, even > Admiral Hooper would not say that COBOL is the proper tool. OTOH, for > large commercial apps, COBOL is far and away the best tool for the job. I ask in seriousness: what would you define as a "large commercial app" that would be appropriate for COBOL above all else? I have never actually seen it used outside of legacy systems; is there something great I'm missing? -- Kirk Strauser pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: Re: Problems with xserver-xfree86
Unfortunately, it's impossible at this time to hook the machine up to the 'net to be able to email transcripts, otherwise I'd do this. I've made sure to have xserver-common and xfree86-common install, especially since they're dependencies. So I know it's not due to that. In fact, I've also made sure to install all of the Suggests packages (and Recommends) to make sure none of the files are in there. On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 01:28, Ross Boylan wrote: > It would probably be helpful to give the exact transcript of what you > tried to do: which packages did you install with which tool, and what > error message did you get. > > The statement that there is no existing config file can simply be > informational, but of course the necessary file should be created at > the end of the install. > > Offhand, the only way I would think something could go wrong would be > if you installed some part of X without installing all its required > packages; the basic configuration files are setup in some base > packages that are shared by many of the other X packages > (xfree86-common, I think). > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:52:00AM -0400, Stephen Touset wrote: > > There is no Xfree config file anywhere in the system that I can tell. > > When I install X, it tells me that it hasn't found the files, so it > > won't update them. The problem is that they're just not being created. > > -- Stephen Touset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: other debian installer tactic?
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 5:58 am, Kent West wrote: > Wonderful goal! But what you're asking for is a different distribution, > which has been done already: Corel, Libranet, Knoppix, Xandros, etc. What bothers me about these distros is that even if they are debian based you can not upgrade transparently your system to follow debian repositories, in a way they try to trap you, cause they make money from it. > Debian, by its very definition, does not work only on one platform. > Anything that is based on Debian, but only works on one platform, is not > Debian. You're free to develop your own distro, or hire/persuade someone > to do it, or to acquire another distro that does what you want, such as > those mentioned above, but the bottom line is that you're asking for > another distro, not Debian. You're free to consider these other distros > as "valid Debian subprojects", but Debian itself supports mulitiple > architectures. Anything less is not Debian, and the "Debian developers" > are unlikely to spend their time and effort working on an installer > that's not Debian (and I applaud them for that!). OK, maybe I'm asking for another distro. I wish I would have the time for doing it myself or the money to hire someone to do it. Unforunatelly... Maybe some day I'll can, who knows? Alfredo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh tunneling
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:38:40AM -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote:
> > However, the way I was taught it was that `virus' was already a plural
> > /did not have a plural in latin.
>
> As I said:
>
> > > Anyway, there are no recorded instances of a Latin plural of
> > > "virus", because its meaning back then was abstract and not
> > > something you could really pluralize.
My bad.
Note to self: Reading comprehension sucks in the wee hours of the
morning.
~ Jesse Meyer
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Re: other debian installer tactic?
Alfredo Valles wrote: I know this have been discussed many times. But I still not happy. (Sorry) Why is it that debian can not take a shortcut in the path for having a quick desktop installation? Why not to release a basic knoppix-like CD with the most common desktop applications that 99% of people would want?. Using a very basic installer and the hardware auto-detection of knoppix (or any other that works) it would clone itself to the hard disk in a few minutes. It would be possible to install the rest of the debian applications from the debian testing CDs anyway. I know that this wouldn't work in all platforms (most surely only in x86) but even if it is a very limited solution I think it worth been a valid debian subproject on his own. I think that the save in time that an approach like this produces is something to be taken seriously. I have installed debian for desktop purposes several times so in time it becomes boring, and there are many stupid details (about fonts, java, etc...) that I rather prefer not to hold in my mind. Now I live happily with a knoppix installed to hard disk, and fetching soft from the debian unstable branch, only thing is that there are a few upgrade conflicts in some packages, nothing too hard to work around. Many people is doing the same. What do you think? (Don't open fire with the magnum 45, please :-) Alfredo Amen! Whover produced KNOPPIX has the right idea..a simple almost foolproof installation that provides just the basic necessities. Why should everyone who wants Debian be required make decisions during the installation about things that can be better accomplished after the basic Debian is installed?. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Please!!
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:58 am, Kent West wrote: > Whoo-hoo! bit premature it seems. (Sigh!) > Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat "raw" (either edit > /etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig). When I set up "gpmconfig" with "fuimps" the mouse moves when I test it. When I get out of "gpmconfig" it still works. However when I "shutdown -r now" when it reboots the mouse is dead again. Thinking the gpm server is not working, I entered "#gpm" but that did not change anything. Then I go back to "gpmconfig" and get it going again. Sometimes it doesn't take on the first configuration and has to be done again and then it will work. Thanks, Bill. William Bradley Come visit us at: http://www.catholicmissionleaflets.org Free Rosaries available at the above. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: other debian installer tactic?
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 7:23 am, Stephane wrote: > Le Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:39:08 +0200 > > It seems that a lot of people have troubles with the Debian installer. > Once you know it well it can do what you want: tasksel is simple, > dselect is powerful. Refuse to use them and you have a very minimal > system that you can tune a lot. > I have no problem with the debian installer. I like it, really. I'm only saying that I think that a new paradigm for an install procedure is born with knoppix. For me is obvious that in the future many desktop systems will be installed this way. For you guys may not be interesting, as I see that many people here don't like kde, or any other eye-candy things, and you enjoy spending hours in dselect discovering new packages and configuring your system exactly as you want it, I've do it myself, but I now I want speed, the latest soft, and the power of debian, all together. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:50, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-26T12:52:33Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL. In the hands of someone > > with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language. > > All Turing-complete languages are equally powerful. That doesn't mean that > any given one would fill me with a desire to start hacking around with it. > > You know, I'd never seen Cobol before the screenshots on your link. Those > just confirmed everything I've heard about it. :) For a "Hello, World" program, or an OS, or a graphics toolkit, even Admiral Hooper would not say that COBOL is the proper tool. OTOH, for large commercial apps, COBOL is far and away the best tool for the job. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "My advice to you is to get married: If you find a good wife, you will be happy; if not, you will become a philosopher." Socrates -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tool for sending Windows popup messages?
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:53:47 -0700 Vineet Kumar wrote: > * Joe Emenaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030825 17:03]: > > Is there some Debian tool that would let me specify an IP and a > > message and it would handle the delivery without making me bother > > with finding out the NetBIOS name, etc.? > > Did you try smbclient's -I option? Seems to need the netbios name all the same. -- Carlos Sousa http://vbc.dyndns.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:36, Mark Roach wrote: > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:52, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:35, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > I've, unfortunately, been forced into taking a COBOL class as a > > > requirement for getting my BS. (And that's just what it is, a load of > > > BS...) What's worse is that I can't seem to find any Free COBOL tools. > [snip] > > Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL. In the hands of > > someone with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language. > > That's a bit harsh, Ron. He said he was forced into taking the class, > not that COBOL sucked. And even if he had, no need to get your hackles > up. I believe his quote was "And that's just what it is, a load of BS." He's a student, and, by definition, has a limited perspective, and probably, but not definitely, thinks he knows everything. That's _not_a_criticism_, just a statement of life. After all, how many young people think they know more than their parents until they hit 30? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "All machines, no matter how complex, are considered to be based on 6 simple elements: the lever, the pulley, the wheel and axle, the screw, the wedge and the inclined plane." Marilyn Vos Savant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up
Sarah Forbes wrote: Hi, I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in manager displays. Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in. I assume you're using lilo (as opposed to grub or some other boot loader). At the "boot:" prompt, enter "linux single"; this should boot you into single-user mode, where you can then disable your gui login (several ways; I'd just throw "exit 0" into the first line of the appropriate script - "/etc/init.d/gdm" (or kdm or xdm or wdm)). If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to disable in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them. First guess is that X has been configured with the wrong keyboard settings. If the keyboard works outside of X, try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"; I believe that'll allow you to reconfigure your keyboard settings. -- Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem in using pptp-linux
Hi, I have to form the VPN(virtual private network) with my school to access my homework and newsgroup of my school. Therefore, i have downloaded the pptp-linux and following the instruction of my school's homepages which tell you how to config the pptp-linux. After i have downloaded and installed (with apt-get install pptp-linux), i have added the following line in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets: name vpn.xxx.xxx.xxx password, which name is the user name, vpn.xxx.xxx.xxx is the sites and password is the user's password in my school. Then i have replaced the content of the options with the following line lock debug mtu 1000 nobsdcomp nodeflate noaccomp nopcomp novj defaultroute name Then the websites recommand me to form a script to access the vpn, the content is the following: #bin/sh /*pptp *vpn.xxx.xxx.xxx* debug name *xxx* remotename *vpn.xxx.xxx.xxx* noipdefault */ Finally, i change the permission of this script chmod u+x (name of the script) ./connect: line 3: pptp: command not found ./connect: line 4: debug: command not found ./connect: line 5: name: command not found ./connect: line 6: remotename: command not found ./connect: line 7: noipdefault: command not found I do not know what wrong with my pptp-linux. Can anyone suggest how to config to address this problem? Regards, James Ng -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up
use the update-rc.d command, to stop the display managers from starting, i used the following command: # update-rc.d -f ?dm remove stop 1 2 3 4 5 6 where the question mark is g, k, or x depending on which is starting at boot. use the install disk and go into rescue mode. Chris Black wrote: Sarah Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in. -- lemuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: COBOL compiler
At 2003-08-26T12:52:33Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL. In the hands of someone > with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language. All Turing-complete languages are equally powerful. That doesn't mean that any given one would fill me with a desire to start hacking around with it. You know, I'd never seen Cobol before the screenshots on your link. Those just confirmed everything I've heard about it. :) -- Kirk Strauser pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Undo of mkfs - urgent
Manfred Heubach wrote: Hello, I've accidently used mkfs.ext3 on the wrong harddisk (used hdb3 instead of hda3). Is there any way to recover the files on this partition? There is no backup copy of this partition. If it is not possible to recover the files or filesystemstructure maybe it's possible to extract some files from the raw device. Except of running mkfs no data has been written to that disk. I had 5 zipped tar files (about 800MB each) on this partition. Maybe it's possible to recover at least these files. If tar files all start and end with the same sequence of bytes there should be a chance of finding them on the 20GB HDD. Does anyone no how to identify tarfiles in raw partition data? I would keep looking for a better solution than what I mention below, but if all else fails... If nothing has been written to that disk since, you may be able to recover some of the files. I can recommend two methods. If there are specific types of files you want, you can use "foremost" (see http://www.samag.com/documents/s=8859/sam0309a/sam0309a.htm). It allows you to specify a unique header and footer for a file type (e.g. ffd8 and ffd9 for jpeg). It will then comb through your partition saving evertyhing between the headers and footers it finds. It worked nearly perfectly for me to recover some digital photos. I was able to cover 149 of 150. The 150th was recovered, but had a black band near the bottom. I suspect that some data was written over it. It is also surprisingly fast. The other tool, which is more popular but I had less success with, is the Coroner's Toolkit (TCT). It is available as a deb (i.e. apt-get install tct). You can use "unrm" to extract all allocated blocks to another partition. Then you can use lazarus to go through all that output and try to identify and save files. You need a lot of space for this. I couldn't use unrm because it wouldn't read my version of reiserfs, but you can also use dd to pull the data. The disadvantage is that dd pulls all blocks - both allocated and unallocated. That takes even more space. Good luck! -- Brian J. Stults Assistant Professor Center for Studies in Criminology and Law University of Florida phone: (352) 392-1025 x207fax: (352) 392-5065 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:52, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:35, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > I've, unfortunately, been forced into taking a COBOL class as a > > requirement for getting my BS. (And that's just what it is, a load of > > BS...) What's worse is that I can't seem to find any Free COBOL tools. [snip] > Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL. In the hands of > someone with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language. That's a bit harsh, Ron. He said he was forced into taking the class, not that COBOL sucked. And even if he had, no need to get your hackles up. -Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP over SSH
> Alex Malinovich wrote: > > I have my laptop set up to work fine with my home mail server from just > > about anywhere. The only problem is that I have a couple of classes that > > I use my laptop for which block certain ports for the network. One of > > those ports is 25. So I'm able to read my mail just fine over IMAP, I > > just can't send any outgoing mail. I need some way to get around this. > > [...snip...] You might try SMTP over SSL (port 465) if your MTA supports it and the firewall(s) permit it. Then you might also use client certificates for relatively seamless and strong authentication. ...mjb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up
Sarah Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I > boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in > manager displays. > > Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot > process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot > disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in. > > If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to disable > in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them. You could boot the kernel in single user mode which should cause the display manager not to be started and then disable or remove its init.d script. Or if you have an OpenSSH server running on the box you could login that way from another machine and shut down the display manager. --Chris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 14:58, Sarah Forbes wrote: > Hi, > > I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I > boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in > manager displays. > > Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot > process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot > disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in. This sort of thing is one of the reasons I always use a text login. IIRC, what I did to prevent X starting was the brute-force method of unlinking all the kdm, gdm, xdm links in /etc/rc2.d. That should do it, if no more elegant approach is suggested. > > If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to disable > in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them. That'll need someone more expert than me... HTH -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for a simple SSL-CA package
Tarjei Huse wrote: Hi, I'd like to thank all who contributed. If you don't want to run your own certificate authority or pay a commercial one to sign your key, and you don't have a lot of certificates to deal with, you can have each key simply be self-signed, which I believe is what's being recommended here. Actually, there are a number of reasons why I want to run a more fully featured CA: -> I'd like to use certs for authenticating slave openldapservers. -> I want to use the certs to let laptopusers send mail through my mailservers. -> I want to have a system to let pops and imaps users install the certificates on their machines through a simple webinterface. -> It has to be operated w/o a gui. I think I'll end up with pyca (www.pyca.org) as it seems to have most of these features in place. The other possibilities are openca which is IMHO to complicated for my needs and tinyca (that many on this list suggested) that doesn't (please correct me if I'm wrong) give me the finished scripts for importing certs in outlook, IE, Mozilla and other programs. If there are other alternatives out there, please let me know. Again, I thank you for your contributions. Tarjei noah try CSP at http://devel.it.su.se/projects/CSP/ its what I tested. Seems to do what I need. Bill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Prevent X Windows Starting up
Hi, I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in manager displays. Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in. If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to disable in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them. Many Thanks Sarah -- Sarah Forbes Web Programmer Highbury House Communications PLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01322 660070 ext: 2535 Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If you are not the addressee indicated in the message, (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to internet emails of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this organisation shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. We Believe, But do not warrant that this e-mail and any attachments, are virus free. You should take full responsibility for virus checking -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: other debian installer tactic?
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 12:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >It seems that a lot of people have troubles with the Debian installer. > >Once you know it well it can do what you want: tasksel is simple, > >dselect is powerful. Refuse to use them and you have a very minimal > >system that you can tune a lot. > > the minimal system thing and the opportunity to do what you want is what > made me switch to debian. i hate em automatic installers that do things i > don't know about. that's why i don't like SuSE and all that lot... > for all em users that "don't want to know why their computer works" there > should of course be another option than switching to Mac OS... I find that with debian you only have to do one install and then apt-get upgrade keeps you up to date. with SuSE and Red Hat you have to install the next version to get latest software. This is why I moved to debian. I find tasksel too clumsy to use and if I was installing again I would just install a minimal system. synaptic is easier to use than dselect so if you run X all the time you should use it. pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:35, Alex Malinovich wrote: > I've, unfortunately, been forced into taking a COBOL class as a > requirement for getting my BS. (And that's just what it is, a load of > BS...) What's worse is that I can't seem to find any Free COBOL tools. > 'apt-cache search cobol' returns 3 hits, all of which are documentation > utilities. Any suggestions? Or am I going to be stuck using school PC's > loaded with Windows and more proprietary software than you can shake a > warez-kiddie at? Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL. In the hands of someone with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language. http://www.thekompany.com/products/kobol/ http://www.thekompany.com/products/kobol/demo.php3 -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA When Swedes start committing terrorism, I'll become suspicious of Scandanavians. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: ssh tunneling
Op di 26-08-2003, om 02:24 schreef Colin Watson: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:01:05AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > That's a new plural of "virus" to me ... > > ["viri" and "virii" are both wrong. The first is made up by assuming > that "virus" is a Latin masculine second declension noun, which it's not > (it's neuter), and "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and means > "men". The second is just utterly weird, though strangely popular, and > is constructed on top of a made-up second declension noun, "virius". > "vira" is probably better than anything else, because at least it's > neuter, but really seems more like the plural of "virum". Anyway, there > are no recorded instances of a Latin plural of "virus", because its > meaning back then was abstract and not something you could really > pluralize. The only English plural of the word is simply "viruses". > > This concludes today's pedantry.] > > Cheers, > > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Wow, i never thought i would get some Latin education on a Debian email list :) I always wondered about this, yet never found an answer up until now. How can one not love Debian and it's mailing list! Thanks Colin :) Benedict -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: other debian installer tactic?
It seems that a lot of people have troubles with the Debian installer. Once you know it well it can do what you want: tasksel is simple, dselect is powerful. Refuse to use them and you have a very minimal system that you can tune a lot. the minimal system thing and the opportunity to do what you want is what made me switch to debian. i hate em automatic installers that do things i don't know about. that's why i don't like SuSE and all that lot... for all em users that "don't want to know why their computer works" there should of course be another option than switching to Mac OS... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs
--- Alphonse Ogulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > Just compiled kernel 2.4.21 but cannot boot it > despite creating the initrd > image and respective links in / to files in /boot. > The last 5 lines printed on screen before hang-up > are printed below. > > RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting > at 0. > Freeing initrd memory: 2664k freed > VFS: Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01 > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01 > > Passing root=/dev/hda1 to lilo at boot time did not > bear fruit. > Created initrd as follows: > # mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.4.21 > /lib/modules/2.4.21 > > Added the following lines in lilo.conf before > running lilo. > . > image=/vmlinuz-2.4.21 initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.21 > label=2.4.21 > root=/dev/hda1 > read-only > > Grateful for any assistance in resolving this > difficulty. > > -- > Alphonse Ogulla > Nairobi, Kenya > Check that: - under "File systems", "Second extended fs support" has "y" - under "Block devices", "Normal PC floppy disk support" has "y" - under "ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support", "IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices" has "y" - under submenu "IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block Devices", "Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape/floppy support" and "Include IDE/ATA-2 DISK support" have "y" clicked. This helped me to solve similar problems - I hope it'll help you too Joris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crashes during daily cron job
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 09:13:12PM -0600, James Roberge wrote: > > Hey everyone. I seem to be having a little problem on my debian system. It > seems that the system is crashing during the daily cron job. But, it DOES > NOT happen every day. > > Here is a snip from /var/log/syslog... note timestamps. > > Aug 12 06:23:01 lebeau /USR/SBIN/CRON[3163]: (mail) CMD ( if [ -x > /usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q ; fi) > Aug 12 06:25:01 lebeau /USR/SBIN/CRON[3167]: (root) CMD (test -e > /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily) > Aug 12 18:21:32 lebeau syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart. > Aug 12 18:21:32 lebeau kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = /proc/kmsg > started. > > I tried to locate which script that it was crashing on. So... i did a > > run-parts --verbose /etc/cron.daily > > The first time i ran it, it went ok but the second time i ran it, it got > as far as /etc/cron.daily/standard and then the host went down (locks right > up, even the console is totally FROZEN. > > here is a list of my /etc/cron.daily > > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 502 Jul 4 16:13 calendar* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 669 Mar 4 17:05 exim* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 277 Jun 1 2001 find* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 51 Apr 23 17:19 logrotate* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 708 Mar 14 19:48 man-db* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 86 Sep 27 2001 modutils* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 495 Nov 18 2001 netkit-inetd* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 383 Mar 13 15:57 samba* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 2736 Oct 1 2001 standard* > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1197 Jan 3 2002 sysklogd* > > Now, i dont know if it was standard or sysklogd, i am logging in remotely > and it might have choked on sysklogd and crashed before it displayed it. > > I tried running standard and sysklogd by themselves, but it did not crash. > > Some more info that might help > > uname -a> Linux lebeau 2.4.19 #1 Mon Aug 5 00:28:12 CDT 2002 i586 unknown > > cat /etc/debian_version > 3.0 > > I am really at my wits end here, does anyone have any idea what is going on > here? > > James Roberge > I am having similar problems with my server. Did you find out at the end what was the problem? Hardware? Software? Thanks, Attilio Cucchieri -- Attilio Cucchieri ph: 55 16 2739769 x29 IFSC - Universidade de Sao Paulo FAX: 55 16 2739877 Caixa Postal 369 - CEP 13560-970 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sao Carlos SP (BRAZIL) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wenden Sie sich an den Systemadministrator. Das geprüfte Dokument wurde ISOLIERT. Virusinformation: Der Anhang movie0045.pif enthielt den Virus [EMAIL PROTECTED] und konnte NICHT repariert werden. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Undo of mkfs - urgent
Hello, I've accidently used mkfs.ext3 on the wrong harddisk (used hdb3 instead of hda3). Is there any way to recover the files on this partition? There is no backup copy of this partition. If it is not possible to recover the files or filesystemstructure maybe it's possible to extract some files from the raw device. Except of running mkfs no data has been written to that disk. I had 5 zipped tar files (about 800MB each) on this partition. Maybe it's possible to recover at least these files. If tar files all start and end with the same sequence of bytes there should be a chance of finding them on the 20GB HDD. Does anyone no how to identify tarfiles in raw partition data? Any help is welcome Regards Manfred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COBOL compiler
Alex writes: > I've, unfortunately, been forced into taking a COBOL class as a > requirement for getting my BS. (And that's just what it is, a load > of BS...) What's worse is that I can't seem to find any Free COBOL > tools. 'apt-cache search cobol' returns 3 hits, all of which are > documentation utilities. Any suggestions? Or am I going to be stuck > using school PC's loaded with Windows and more proprietary software > than you can shake a warez-kiddie at? Whilst looking for one I knew about in the early 90's I found this: http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/cobol.shtml and this has a debian package: http://tiny-cobol.sourceforge.net/snapshots.html hth, Elizabeth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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make-kpkg compiled kernel is too big
Compiled kernel 2.4.21 using make-kpkg but got the following error on running lilo:- Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 Added 2.4.18 * Added 2.4.21 Added 2.2.20 Fatal: Kernel /boot/vmlinux is too big compiled kernel as follows:- atlas:/usr/src/linux# make-kpkg --initrd clean kernel_image and also tried atlas:/usr/src/linux# make-kpkg clean binary Where could I be going wrong? -- Alphonse Ogulla Nairobi, Kenya -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
