Re: Debian testing repository broken?

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 10:38:48PM +, Zach wrote:
> 
> I have copied this to the debian-testing group since this may be a
> problem with apt.
> 
I think it's an apt config file - see below.
 
> Fetched 7401B in 16s (441B/s)
> Failed to fetch
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/PackagesIndex
> MD5Sum mismatch
> Reading package lists... Done
> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org
> testing/main Packages
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages)
> - stat (2 No such file or directory)
> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org
> testing/main Packages
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages)
> - stat (2 No such file or directory)
> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
> ones used instead.
> 

Apt couldn't parse the /etc/apt/sources.list ??

> Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list :
> 
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

Try a / after debian above - so:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

[Using etch (release name) so that when it's released as stable in a few
months time, you don't automatically flip to the next release unless you
wish to by altering the release name :) ]

> deb ftp://ftp.real-time.com/linux/real-time etch custom main non-free 
> contrib
> 

Can't help with any problems with this one :)

> Regards,
> Zach
> 

HTH, all the best, 

Andy


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Re: Changing floppy0 ownership

[Chris Walters]

George Langford wrote:
> I originally groaned:
> 
> 
>>I use the following line in my fstab file:
>>
>>>/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  msdosrw,user,noauto  0   0
>>
>>Then (as george) I mount the floppy disk thusly:
>>
>>>sudo mount -t msdos -o owner /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
>>
>>But when I attempt to write to the floppy, it turns out to be write-
>>protected. ... snippage ...
> 
> 
>>Is this what I should be doing to mount the floppy ?
>>
>>>sudo mount -t msdos -o george /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
> 
> 
> To which Florian helpfully noted:
> 
> 
>>You probably forgot to add your user to the "floppy" group. Users in
>>that group should have read/write access to the device; the "user"
>>option in your fstab should make it possible to mount without using
>>sudo. If that does not work you should check the permissions of the
>>device:
>>$ ls -l /dev/fd0
>>brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 0 2006-05-18 17:18 /dev/fd0
>>
> 
> That's exactly what I get:
> 
>>ls -l /dev/fd0
>>brw-rw  1 root floppy 2, 0 2006-06-02 12:01 /dev/fd0

> George Langford

Hi All,

I am having similar problems.  Not only can I not write to the floppy as
a user (I am a member of the floppy group), but it will not automount -
I have to manually mount it using the su command (sudo does not work for
me).  This also affects my USB pen drive - which will also not automount.

My floppy and usbdrive lines in fstab are:
/dev/fd0/floppy   auto  rw,user,noexec,user 0   2
/dev/sda1   /usbdrive vfat  rw,user,exec,user   0   2

I played around with the last column to try to get them to mount - no
joy...  Now I just get errors on boot.  I know that sda1 is the right
device for the USB drive, because when I mount it in su mode, I can read
and write to it.  Could the problem be the type of directory that I am
linking these devices to and *their* permissions?

The entries in my auto.misc file look like this:
floppy  -fstype=auto,rw,user,suid   :/dev/fd0
usbdrive-fstype=auto,rw,user,suid   :/dev/sda1

I checked the permissions of both files and they are almost exactly as
above (except for the date/time).  I know that it is possible to get
both to automount, because I did it on another Debian system I set up
ages ago under "Woody".

Regards,
Chris


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Re: floppy disks for netinstall

[Juha Tuuna]

gustavo halperin wrote:
> This is a page with not any link, did you check this link or just wrote
> it ??
> 
> Thank you any way,
>  Gustavo Halperin
Look closer, there IS a link. You'll find a manual and installation
floppies for your system (what ever that may be)

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Totem-gstreamer on a fresh install

[Bill]

Hi folks, 

I have a fresh install of sarge stable and am trying to get totem to 
work.

I've successfully run the script  
/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
to install css.

I've installed gstreamer0.8-plugins.

I've set up symbolic links for /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom.

The package does work somewhat. It will play a .mpg file using 
the /cdrom device, but won't read the same disk as a dvd.

When I try to play the dvd I get error messages such as:
-Totem could not play 'file:///dev/dvd'. 
There is no plugin for this movie.
-Totem could not play dvd://
-could not open resource for reading
-failed to open reason unknown
-could not determine type of stream
-cannot open file dvd://
-no plugin to handle this movie

My best guess is that I'm overlooking something obvious about either 
the paths, plugins or devices. Can someone give me a few hints?

tia,
b.


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Re: floppy disks for netinstall

[gustavo halperin]

George Borisov wrote:


gustavo halperin wrote:
 


Do you know where are floppy disks images for netinstall ?
   



http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst
 

This is a page with not any link, did you check this link or just wrote 
it ??


Thank you any way,
 Gustavo Halperin


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why does malloc call free?

[hendrik]

Not looking for you to analyse my debugging session (I'll
do that myself), but I'm really curious -- why does malloc call free?

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x2ac2faab in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt
#0  0x2ac2faab in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x2ac30cfb in malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6

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Re: Configuring CUPS over the LAN

[Clive Menzies]

On (02/06/06 18:05), Paul E Condon wrote:
> I've installed cups on a small computer that I intend to use as 
> a print server. I want to be able to configure over the LAN from
> my desktop computer. Servers name is 'cmn'. When I try using firefox,
> I get a messaage 
> "Fprbidden You don't have permission to access the resource on this server."
> 
> Where do I go to give myself permission? 
> 
You need to edit the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file on the server. See man
cupsd.conf

Regards

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Re: Changing floppy0 ownership

[George Langford]

I originally groaned:

> I use the following line in my fstab file:
> > /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  msdosrw,user,noauto  0   0
>
> Then (as george) I mount the floppy disk thusly:
> > sudo mount -t msdos -o owner /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
>
> But when I attempt to write to the floppy, it turns out to be write-
> protected. ... snippage ...

> Is this what I should be doing to mount the floppy ?
> > sudo mount -t msdos -o george /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0

To which Florian helpfully noted:

> You probably forgot to add your user to the "floppy" group. Users in
> that group should have read/write access to the device; the "user"
> option in your fstab should make it possible to mount without using
> sudo. If that does not work you should check the permissions of the
> device:
> $ ls -l /dev/fd0
> brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 0 2006-05-18 17:18 /dev/fd0
>
That's exactly what I get:
> ls -l /dev/fd0
> brw-rw  1 root floppy 2, 0 2006-06-02 12:01 /dev/fd0

Nevertheless, I scampered over to:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/109

And attempted to make appropriate corrections, but I soon discovered
that george is already a member of the floppy (and sudo, cdrom but
not fax) groups. Problemo non solvus ...

Don't give up yet - the weekend is still young.

Should I be checking the BIOS settings ? I've never encountered a
"read-only" setting there ...

George Langford


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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Paul Johnson]

On Friday 02 June 2006 15:53, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > That's fair.  OTOH, we don't want people moving here, just spend money
> > and remember to go home when your done visiting.
>
> How about I just gas up on the Cali line and spend all the exhaust in
> your craphole on the way to Washington where I'll gas up on the other side
> of that line.  :P

Good luck.  It's about 330 miles from the first gas station in Washington to 
the first gas station in California on I-5, the shortest way to make the 
trip.  It's 307 miles from the Washington line to the Oregon line on I-5.  
Our problem isn't with people who just pass through, it's the ones who forget 
to leave.

> > Usually not without help.  Last time I saw a gas station spill here, the
> > guy ahead of me drove off with the hose.
>
> Wow, last time I saw a spill was... uhm... wait... oh right, never.

Every time I go out of state into Washington, Idaho, Nevada or up to Alberta 
or BC, I have about equal odds of the station absolutely reeking of gasoline 
because of a nice, big spill on the concrete.

> Even LA, the "evil one" you were never more than an hour from countryside. 

Maybe if you live near the edge of the sprawl, sure.  But it takes well more 
than an hour to get out of town from Orange County.  The fastest I ever made 
it from SD to LA is two hours...at 3 in the morning on a Sunday.

> Now, my fine ignorant friend.  Know how much contryside that is?  Well,
> from one ocean to the other takes 5 days in an 18-wheeler.  I know, I've
> done it often enough.  And most of that time is not spent in urban centers
> or even in urban periphery.  It's spent in the countryside.  Maybe if you
> spent a little more time traveling and a little less time trying to tell
> other people how to live you'd grasp that.

I understand how much countryside that is.  However, the prime countryside 
tends to be near cities, and tend to get stomped first.  There's a finite 
amount of farmable land in the world, and cities tend to be near that for a 
reason.

> Where airlines compete with ground transportation without tax
> dollars oh, except for trains... which are on the ground... and use tax
> dollars.

It's not impossible to compete with a national railroad.  There's competition 
for passenger service in Canada and England off the top of my head, and they 
both have national passenger rail services.  Amtrak was created because there 
is demand to get around by train, but the commercial railroads consolidated 
and focused on freight.

> Want to know my other favorite one of yours?  The constant whining
> about California's power and yet you're a self proclaimed socialist.  Gee,
> if they need it shouldn't you provide it?  Isn't that one of the baselines
> of socialism.  Oh, right "Except when it's a state I hate."

The US is a federation of 50 individual states that really don't owe each 
other much of anything.  California forgets this most often.

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Configuring CUPS over the LAN

[Paul E Condon]

I've installed cups on a small computer that I intend to use as 
a print server. I want to be able to configure over the LAN from
my desktop computer. Servers name is 'cmn'. When I try using firefox,
I get a messaage 
"Fprbidden You don't have permission to access the resource on this server."

Where do I go to give myself permission? 
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Re: trying to get the ethernet card working on a Dell Latitude

[tom arnall]

On Friday 02 June 2006 12:55 pm, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, tom arnall wrote:
> > I'm trying to get the ethernet card working on a Dell Latitude c600. From
> > information on the itnernet, the driver for the card is '3c59x'. I am
> > able to load this with modprobe. But when I do 'ifconfig 3c59x eth0' I
> > get 'eth0: Host name lookup failure'. My kernel is 2.6.9 installed via
> > Knoppix. Ideas?
>
> You're confusing two steps. To install the driver, you need:
>
> modprobe 3c59x
>
> assuming the driver is available, not compiled into the kernel, and not
> already installed.
>
> To configure the interface once the driver is installed, you use
>
> ifconfig eth0
>
> but that will only print out the information on the interface; you need to
> determine the appropriate parameters for your network and use them to set
> it up. Eventually you should put these in /etc/network/interfaces to avoid
> having to set it up maually each time.
>
when i do 'ifconfig eth0' i get 'eth0: error fetching interface information: 
Device not found.'

is there a way to check if the card is in physically working condition? 

thanks,

tom arnall




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Re: What is in openoffice.org-core04u?

[Marc Shapiro]

Liam O'Toole wrote:


On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:53:22 -0700
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Liam O'Toole wrote:
   


On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0700
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 


Apt-cache depends shows openoffice.org-core04u as being dependant
on kdelibs4, which is, of couse, dependant on libarts1. 


I have OpenOffice 2 installed from the tarball at openoffice.org,
and then converted using alien.  Apt is not showing anything else
   


from oo.o that is to be removed.  Is this file just for
 


compatibility with KDE? Can I safely remove it without making a
mess of OO.o, as long as I am not running KDE?
   


See the output of 'dpkg -s openoffice.org-core04u'.
 


That is the same as 'apt-cache show openoffice.org-core04u' which I
had already done:
-

   



[SNIP]

 


Can anyone give me a clue as to whether I need this package, or not?

Please.
   


No, this is doing a lot more than providing KDE compatibility. Removing
it will cripple openoffice.

Are you running Sarge? OOo2 has been backported:

http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/

Note that the official openoffice.org-core packages (in Etch and Sid)
do not depend on kdelibs4; I expect that the same will be true of the
backported package.
 

Yes, I am running Sarge.  I do not think that OOo had been backported 
when I installed the upstream packages.  (I generally do not worry about 
backports.)  I looked at the backports version since then but it has 
many other dependancies which the upstream version does not.


If I tell apt to do a dist-upgrade I get the following output:

-
$ sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
openoffice.org-debian-menus
The following NEW packages will be installed:
antlr gjdoc jikes kaffe kaffe-common kaffe-pthreads libgnujaxp-java 
libgnujaxp-jni libneon24
libwpd8 libxt-java openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core 
openoffice.org-java-common

openoffice.org-l10n-en-us python-uno
The following packages have been kept back:
openoffice.org-base remind
The following packages will be upgraded:
openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-impress 
openoffice.org-math

openoffice.org-writer
5 upgraded, 16 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/90.7MB of archives.
After unpacking 203MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.
-

So it wants to upgrade only 5 of the upstream packages and install 
SIXTEEN NEW PACKAGES! I actually did do this, temporarily, but the ui 
fonts were not as nice and there was some flakiness with loading and 
saving packages. It would occaisionally give me an error to the effect 
that "BASIC is missing" or something like that. If I just clicked 
through the error it would load, or save, just fine, though.


I then deleted the new packages that it had installed, along with the 
updated OOo ones. Then I reinstalled the upstream versions of the 
packages that had been updated. This got me back to what I originally 
had, but the errors on loading and saving still occaisionally crop up. I 
am guessing that this is due to some confusion between the upstream and 
debian versions, since it only updated 5 of the packages. I had hoped 
that removing the Debian packages and reinstalling the upstream ones 
would fix things, but it seems not to have completely done so. I may 
have to uninstall OOo completely, and then install from scratch 
whichever version I decide to go with.


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Re: How to change text and screen colors in framebuffer console

[cga2000]

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 04:01:46PM EDT, 46kmz5j02 wrote:
> I use framebuffer console mode by appending "vga=787" to kernel line
> in /boot/grub/menu.lst.  I would like to know if possible to change color
> of console text and background color also.
> 
> I have googled and not found this info.
> 
try with the following keywords:

  "linux console colors"

> Thank you very much.
> 
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Re: debian menu not updating and a few games issues

[Dimitar Vukman]

On Fri, 12 May 2006 14:40:06 +0200
Dimitar Vukman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I believe it's some config somewhere, I'll have to find out which
> one :) Thanks,
> 

Aloha all,

Looks like updating libsdl1.2debian-alsa from etch has fixed things up.
So if anyone's got similar problem I suggest to try this:

---
$ dpkg --get-selections| grep sdl
libsdl-console  install
libsdl-gfx1.2   install
libsdl-gfx1.2-4 install
libsdl-image1.2 install
libsdl-mixer1.2 install
libsdl-net1.2   install
libsdl-sound1.2 install
libsdl-ttf1.2   install
libsdl-ttf2.0-0 deinstall
libsdl1.2debian install
libsdl1.2debian-all deinstall
libsdl1.2debian-alsadeinstall
libsdl1.2debian-oss install
---

and upgrade whatever you can :) If you don't know what's causing the
problem. Good luck anyways!


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Re: 4TB filesystem

[Joshua J. Kugler]

On Friday 02 June 2006 15:22, Mike Dresser wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Koos Meijering wrote:
> > I am trying to create on a nfs file server a partition with the size of
> > 4TB every time after a reboot the system reports there is only a 2 TB
> > partition and an unused part of the disk.
>
> I have a 15 x 300 array under ext3 on the 3ware 9550SX-16ML. You need to
> use parted to create a GPT type partition system.  MS-DOS style(default)
> does not allow you to create over 2 TB arrays.  Then you can create your
> 4 TB partition.  You'll always have to use parted instead of cfdisk/fdisk
> when playing with partitions, as cfdisk/fdisk will see the "fake"
> partition table GPT uses to point to the real table.

Oh!  You're trying to partition?  :)  Yeah, I smile, but ever time I've done 
large file systems, I've made the filesystem directly on the device itself: 
no partitioning done.

j

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Re: 4TB filesystem

[Mike Dresser]

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Koos Meijering wrote:


I am trying to create on a nfs file server a partition with the size of
4TB every time after a reboot the system reports there is only a 2 TB
partition and an unused part of the disk.


I have a 15 x 300 array under ext3 on the 3ware 9550SX-16ML. You need to 
use parted to create a GPT type partition system.  MS-DOS style(default) 
does not allow you to create over 2 TB arrays.  Then you can create your 
4 TB partition.  You'll always have to use parted instead of cfdisk/fdisk 
when playing with partitions, as cfdisk/fdisk will see the "fake" 
partition table GPT uses to point to the real table.


You'll also need large block device support compiled into your kernel. 
This implies a 2.6.x kernel.


Your other option is using the 2 TB carving of the 3ware card, and then 
using software raid or LVM to put that back together into a larger chunk.


Also, you won't be able to boot off this, as lilo/grub do not support 
booting from GPT style partitions.. I put a 16 meg CF card on a CF to IDE 
adapter, and put /boot on there, with my lilo boot loader running from the 
CF card.


Also, what hard drives are you using?  You should be aware that currently 
Maxtor Maxline III's(7v300F0's) do not work properly due to a firmware 
bug.  The current version shipping is VA111630, an update is available to 
VA111670 which merely reduces the frequency of timeouts that get the drive 
kicked out from the array.  I will be getting VA111680 from Maxtor as soon 
as I find the time.


Mike


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Debian testing repository broken?

[Zach]

Never gotten this error before. I am running Debian testing and I am
doing an 'apt-get update' as it instructs but I still get the error:

I have copied this to the debian-testing group since this may be a
problem with apt.

netrek:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing Release
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:2 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch Release.gpg
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch Release.gpg
Get:3 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch Release [3156B]
Get:4 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/custom Packages/DiffIndex
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/custom Packages/DiffIndex
Get:5 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:6 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Get:7 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Get:8 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/custom Packages
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/custom Packages
Get:9 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/main Packages
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/main Packages
Get:10 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/non-free Packages
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/non-free Packages
Get:11 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/contrib Packages
Ign ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/contrib Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/custom Packages
Get:12 ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/main Packages [4056B]
Hit ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/non-free Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.real-time.com etch/contrib Packages
Fetched 7401B in 16s (441B/s)
Failed to fetch
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/PackagesIndex
MD5Sum mismatch
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org
testing/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org
testing/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list :

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.real-time.com/linux/real-time etch custom main non-free contrib

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Steve Lamb]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> That's fair.  OTOH, we don't want people moving here, just spend money and 
> remember to go home when your done visiting.

How about I just gas up on the Cali line and spend all the exhaust in your
craphole on the way to Washington where I'll gas up on the other side of that
line.  :P

> Usually not without help.  Last time I saw a gas station spill here, the guy 
> ahead of me drove off with the hose.

Wow, last time I saw a spill was... uhm... wait... oh right, never.

> Oh, yeah, pave the earth, because it's only gotta be around until you're 
> dead, 
> right?

Nope, don't pave the earth.  On the other hand it isn't like there is a
huge amount of land around here.  At the population density of NY the entire
population of the world could fit inside Texas with room to spare.  Even LA,
the "evil one" you were never more than an hour from countryside.  Now, my
fine ignorant friend.  Know how much contryside that is?  Well, from one ocean
to the other takes 5 days in an 18-wheeler.  I know, I've done it often
enough.  And most of that time is not spent in urban centers or even in urban
periphery.  It's spent in the countryside.  Maybe if you spent a little more
time traveling and a little less time trying to tell other people how to live
you'd grasp that.

> Maybe if you're in a state that lets you wrecklessly zip between lanes on a 
> motorcycle.  Everywhere else motorcycles are just as stuck as the rest of 
> traffic.

Pst, Nevada, no lane splitting.  I was referring to my daily commute to
work and the time it takes my coworkers to travel the same distance via public
and company supplied bus.  You know, Paul, you'd think that me mentioning no
income tax would've clued you in.

>>> Save for Amtrak, which is the postal service for when you need to ship a
>>> warm body, name one.
>> Sorry, no exceptions allowed.  I rest my case.

> It's a good thing people like you usually don't get much heed on this 
> continent politically...

Really?  You mean someone who can form an argument without having to
resort to exceptions to prop it up.

Where airlines compete with ground transportation without tax dollars
oh, except for trains... which are on the ground... and use tax dollars.

Want to know my other favorite one of yours?  The constant whining about
California's power and yet you're a self proclaimed socialist.  Gee, if they
need it shouldn't you provide it?  Isn't that one of the baselines of
socialism.  Oh, right "Except when it's a state I hate."

Like I said, move to Canada if you admire it so.  Tired of nits like you
screwing up this nation with your idiocy and doublethink.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Katipo]

Steve Lamb wrote:


Curt Howland wrote:
 

It hasn't been a republic since at least the time of a large number of 
people being forced at gun point to become "citizens" against their 
will, 1865.
   



   Most would also cite when the states lost their representatives in the
Federal government.  17th Ammendment, 1913.  The idea prior to then was that
the Representatives were in Congress to represent the people while the
Senators were there to represent the States interests.  Now that the Senetors
are directly elected by the people they are nothing more than another form of
representation for the people.  It's kind of why states rights have been
trampled on ever since.

 


It's getting rapidly worse...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/05/30/national/w132119D75.DTL&type=politics

/...and yes, Alito cast the deciding vote.

Quoth: Stephen Kohn, chairman of the National Whistleblower Center, "The 
ruling is a victory for every crooked politician in the United States."/


Will you Americans please do something about all this?
I'm already working as a volunteer down at the local branch of the 
terrorist recruitment centre, and sending every spare cent I can to Iran.

Don't you think it's time to do your share?
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Re: Changing floppy0 ownership

[Florian Kulzer]

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 14:32:59 -0700, George Langford wrote:
> 
> I use the following line in my fstab file:
> > /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  msdosrw,user,noauto  0   0
> 
> Then (as george) I mount the floppy disk thusly:
> > sudo mount -t msdos -o owner /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
> 
> But when I attempt to write to the floppy, it turns out to be write-
> protected.  And debian won't let me mount it just as george ("Only root
> can do that").  Incidentally, if I look at a not-empty floppy, I can
> see its contents and copy them with the file browser. And I've checked
> to be sure that its little block hasn't been shifted to open the write-
> protect hole.
> 
> Is this what I should be doing to mount the floppy ?
> > sudo mount -t msdos -o george /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0

You probably forgot to add your user to the "floppy" group. Users in
that group should have read/write access to the device; the "user"
option in your fstab should make it possible to mount without using
sudo. If that does not work you should check the permissions of the
device:

$ ls -l /dev/fd0
brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 0 2006-05-18 17:18 /dev/fd0

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Paul Johnson]

On Friday 02 June 2006 15:00, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > OK, stay in the regressive hellhole you live in and avoid infecting
> > Oregon, then.
>
> What you call regressive I call fair, equitable and just.  None of
> which the hellhole you live in can claim.

That's fair.  OTOH, we don't want people moving here, just spend money and 
remember to go home when your done visiting.

> >> Environmental issues are a joke.
> >
> > Spilled gasoline creates groundwater and air pollution.  Even the EPA
> > says this.
>
> Yes, and the near minimum wage workers don't spill at all, do they?

Usually not without help.  Last time I saw a gas station spill here, the guy 
ahead of me drove off with the hose.

> > Vancouver, WA self service prices as of this morning:  $3.209/gal
> > Portland, OR mini-service prices as of this morning:  $2.899/gal
> >
> > Hmm, which is cheaper again?
>
> And you're sure that's the only factor?

The gas station closest to me is managed buy a guy who runs self-serve 
stations in neighboring Clark County, WA, too.  He said he even tried opening 
mini-serve stations because he wanted to save on insurance and undercut the 
competition, but was forced to go self-serve there because for some reason, 
Clark County drivers are more interested in paying much higher prices for gas 
to do his job for him.

> > Yes, because otherwise they sprawl like Los Angeles, the greater evil.
>
> Uh-huh.  Having been in both I far prefer LA to NY, thanks.

Oh, yeah, pave the earth, because it's only gotta be around until you're dead, 
right?

> > No, I mean overall.  Overemphasis on the freeway and lack of efficient
> > public transit have dragged most of this continent to a standstill.
>
> Yes, well, not like public transportation would help in that matter, it
> makes it worse.  Like I said, 2 hours to go what I can go 30 minutes on my
> motorcycle and that's in a city without major traffic problems and
> construction on two of the three freeways in it.  In any other large city
> there is no way I would even be able to get to work from home in even 2
> hours on public transportation.  Given the size of this nation we're doing
> quite well when it comes to transportation.  The only problem are people
> who harp on public transportation even though, time and again, it has
> failed.

Maybe if you're in a state that lets you wrecklessly zip between lanes on a 
motorcycle.  Everywhere else motorcycles are just as stuck as the rest of 
traffic.

> > Save for Amtrak, which is the postal service for when you need to ship a
> > warm body, name one.
>
> Sorry, no exceptions allowed.  I rest my case.

It's a good thing people like you usually don't get much heed on this 
continent politically...

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Re: /etc/hosts.deny how to use it?

[Brad Sims]

On Thursday 01 June 2006 11:59 pm, Chuck Payne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am being hit by some ips that I like to block. I like to know how can 
> I use hosts.deny for the ALL statement

After all the comments, aka lines that look like this:
# This is a comment, after these put
ALL: EXCEPT LOCAL

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Steve Lamb]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> OK, stay in the regressive hellhole you live in and avoid infecting Oregon, 
> then.

What you call regressive I call fair, equitable and just.  None of which
the hellhole you live in can claim.

>> Environmental issues are a joke.

> Spilled gasoline creates groundwater and air pollution.  Even the EPA says 
> this.

Yes, and the near minimum wage workers don't spill at all, do they?


>> Speed?  Hardly, last time I was in 
>> Oregon it took me longer to gas up my car than it did outside.

> Unique situation.

I'd call it fairly common if you're talking about lines at all since I
haven't seen a line at a gas station in the years prior and years since.

> Vancouver, WA self service prices as of this morning:  $3.209/gal
> Portland, OR mini-service prices as of this morning:  $2.899/gal

> Hmm, which is cheaper again?

And you're sure that's the only factor?

> Yes, because otherwise they sprawl like Los Angeles, the greater evil.

Uh-huh.  Having been in both I far prefer LA to NY, thanks.

> No, I mean overall.  Overemphasis on the freeway and lack of efficient public 
> transit have dragged most of this continent to a standstill.

Yes, well, not like public transportation would help in that matter, it
makes it worse.  Like I said, 2 hours to go what I can go 30 minutes on my
motorcycle and that's in a city without major traffic problems and
construction on two of the three freeways in it.  In any other large city
there is no way I would even be able to get to work from home in even 2 hours
on public transportation.  Given the size of this nation we're doing quite
well when it comes to transportation.  The only problem are people who harp on
public transportation even though, time and again, it has failed.

> Save for Amtrak, which is the postal service for when you need to ship a warm 
> body, name one.

Sorry, no exceptions allowed.  I rest my case.

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Changing floppy0 ownership

[George Langford]

I use the following line in my fstab file:
> /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  msdosrw,user,noauto  0   0

Then (as george) I mount the floppy disk thusly:
> sudo mount -t msdos -o owner /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0

But when I attempt to write to the floppy, it turns out to be write-
protected.  And debian won't let me mount it just as george ("Only root
can do that").  Incidentally, if I look at a not-empty floppy, I can
see its contents and copy them with the file browser. And I've checked
to be sure that its little block hasn't been shifted to open the write-
protect hole.

Is this what I should be doing to mount the floppy ?
> sudo mount -t msdos -o george /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0

Puzzled in PA

George Langford


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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Paul Johnson]

On Friday 02 June 2006 13:11, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > If good ideas did spread, sales tax would be unconstitutional in more
> > than Oregon and New Hampshire,
>
> Uh, sales tax is better than the alternative which is the income tax
> which, correct me if I'm wrong, Oregon has.  I much prefer my state of no
> income tax and a sales tax, thanks.

OK, stay in the regressive hellhole you live in and avoid infecting Oregon, 
then.

> > self-service gasoline would be banned for environmental, speed, cost and
> > safety reasons
>
> Environmental issues are a joke.

Spilled gasoline creates groundwater and air pollution.  Even the EPA says 
this.

> Speed?  Hardly, last time I was in 
> Oregon it took me longer to gas up my car than it did outside.

Unique situation.

> And last 
> time I was there in an 18-wheeler they still self-served their own fuel. 

If they have a cardlock card, yes, they can, because they're technically also 
an employee of the gas station then.

> Cost? Let's see, I know have to pay for several lackeys to pump my gas for
> me and that is supposed to *lower* prices?  Haha, you funny.

Vancouver, WA self service prices as of this morning:  $3.209/gal
Portland, OR mini-service prices as of this morning:  $2.899/gal

Hmm, which is cheaper again?

> > more than Oregon and Illinois would have regional governments and
> > urban growth boundaries,
>
> And this is good, how, exactly?  You want all cities to be as pack as
> NY?

Yes, because otherwise they sprawl like Los Angeles, the greater evil.

> > cities other than Portland, Seattle and New York
> > would have the kind of transportation infrastructure that isn't an
> > expensive joke,
>
> By this I presume you mean public which is in and of itself a complete
> joke.  Yeah, 2 hours to get the same distance as it takes me 30 minutes on
> my motorcycle.

No, I mean overall.  Overemphasis on the freeway and lack of efficient public 
transit have dragged most of this continent to a standstill.

> > airlines would have to compete against ground transportation
> > with their own money, not tax dollars.
>
> About the only good idea right there.  Of course it isn't like ground
> transportation isn't using tax money as well.

Save for Amtrak, which is the postal service for when you need to ship a warm 
body, name one.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Paul Johnson]

On Friday 02 June 2006 13:12, Liudmila Yafremava wrote:
> don't you people think this discussion is just a little outside the scope
> of the mailing list?

The stated scope for this mailing list is "Debian's users."  I'd say we're 
still well within the realm of that.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Rich Johnson]

On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Steve Lamb wrote:


Curt Howland wrote:
It hasn't been a republic since at least the time of a large  
number of

people being forced at gun point to become "citizens" against their
will, 1865.


Most would also cite when the states lost their representatives  
in the
Federal government.  17th Ammendment, 1913.  The idea prior to then  
was that

the Representatives were in Congress to represent the people while the
 were there to represent the States interests.  Now that the Senetors
are directly elected by the people they are nothing more than  
another form of
representation for the people.  It's kind of why states rights have  
been

trampled on ever since.


HEY! The States ratified it--37-1-10.  Only Utah (with 0.4% of  
population) objected.  States containing 99.6% of the people either  
affirmed or accepted the amendment.


AL, FL, MS, SC, GA, VA, MD, KY, DE and RI are the abstaining states.   
They make an interesting set.



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Re: How to change text and screen colors in framebuffer console

[Derek]

Sure,use settermfor examplesetterm -background greenOn 6/2/06, 46kmz5j02 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I use framebuffer console mode by appending "vga=787" to kernel line
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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Nate Bargmann]

* Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Jun 02 15:19 -0500]:
> Curt Howland wrote:
> > It hasn't been a republic since at least the time of a large number of 
> > people being forced at gun point to become "citizens" against their 
> > will, 1865.
> 
> Most would also cite when the states lost their representatives in the
> Federal government.  17th Ammendment, 1913.  The idea prior to then was that
> the Representatives were in Congress to represent the people while the
> Senators were there to represent the States interests.  Now that the Senetors
> are directly elected by the people they are nothing more than another form of
> representation for the people.  It's kind of why states rights have been
> trampled on ever since.

Bingo!

I don't support any of the new amendments that have been bandied about
over the past couple of decades, but, being of Originalist Thought,  I 
sure can support repealing several later amendments.  Speaking of
amendments, amending the US Constitution is not the way to cure every 
perceived social ill in the USA.

Take flag burning for instance.  It has lost its shock value and it
rarely gets the intended reaction any more.  An amendment at this late
stage is unnecessary cruft.  To my way of thinking, the majority of the
amendments beyond the first ten have suffered mightily from the law of
Unintended Consequences.

- Nate >>

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Re: 4TB filesystem

[Koos Meijering]

Bart Schelstraete said the following on 06/02/06 22:02:
>>
>> I am trying to create on a nfs file server a partition with the size of
>> 4TB every time after a reboot the system reports there is only a 2 TB
>> partition and an unused part of the disk.
>> The system is an AMD Optron server, with Debian Sarge installed and de
>> generic amd kernel image
>> The raid controller I used is an 3ware 9500s with 12 370GB disk attached
>> to it.
>>
>> Is it possible to create a partition larger than 2 TB and how?
>> I hope somebody can help me.
> 
> 
> Depends on the Filesystem. Which filesystem are you using?
> 
> 
> B
I tried already with ext2, ext3, reiser and jfs
with the Debian stock kernel version 2.6.8-12-amd64-k8-smp

with all the file systems I saw the seem behaviour.

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Re: how to detect if a jpeg file is progressive or not

[Wayne Topa]

H.S.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> I tried your way and converted all the image with quality 25. You are
> right, I couldn't notice any perceptual difference at normal size. The
> different is noticable only if you magnify the image.
> 
> I had a total of 14 images of size 2272x1704 (taken by a 4 megapixel
> digital camera). I reduced them in size (682x511 pixels; or to 30%) and
> their quality (to 25). The reduced size images were taking a total of
> 2.7 MB at default quality. But by using quality 25, the disk space usage
> reduced to 0.608 MB! This is a great improvement. (I am still getting
> progressive jpegs as the output.)

Glad to hear it helped.  I have added the '-interlace plane' to my
script, thanks to you, and am getting my images down a bit more as
well.

> 
> Here is the command I used to do the conversion (it is a one long line):
> $> for f in *.jpg; do echo "$f"; bn=`basename "$f" .jpg`; convert
> -resize 30% -quality 25 -interlace plane "$f" ${bn}-small.jpg; done

Very nice.  I used to do the convert to selected images in my Digikam
album's but had to go to a script since the last Digikam upgrade.  It
seems the batch processing was left out in this version.  

I'm glad you posted your query.  I have learned something new again
this week!  DU never fails!

Best Regards

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Liudmila Yafremava wrote:
> 
> don't you people think this discussion is just a little outside the
> scope of the mailing list?
> 

I think you are right.  The problem is that the mailing lists and forums
that are dedicated to discussions about politics and religion always
degenerate into flamefests about which Linux distro is better or which
text editor is better.  That sort of stuff just rubs me the wrong way.

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How to change text and screen colors in framebuffer console

[46kmz5j02]

I use framebuffer console mode by appending "vga=787" to kernel line
in /boot/grub/menu.lst.  I would like to know if possible to change color
of console text and background color also.

I have googled and not found this info.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Liudmila Yafremava]

don't you people think this discussion is just a little outside the scope 
of the mailing list?


On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Steve Lamb wrote:


Curt Howland wrote:

It hasn't been a republic since at least the time of a large number of
people being forced at gun point to become "citizens" against their
will, 1865.


   Most would also cite when the states lost their representatives in the
Federal government.  17th Ammendment, 1913.  The idea prior to then was that
the Representatives were in Congress to represent the people while the
Senators were there to represent the States interests.  Now that the Senetors
are directly elected by the people they are nothing more than another form of
representation for the people.  It's kind of why states rights have been
trampled on ever since.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Steve Lamb]

Curt Howland wrote:
> It hasn't been a republic since at least the time of a large number of 
> people being forced at gun point to become "citizens" against their 
> will, 1865.

Most would also cite when the states lost their representatives in the
Federal government.  17th Ammendment, 1913.  The idea prior to then was that
the Representatives were in Congress to represent the people while the
Senators were there to represent the States interests.  Now that the Senetors
are directly elected by the people they are nothing more than another form of
representation for the people.  It's kind of why states rights have been
trampled on ever since.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Steve Lamb]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> If good ideas did spread, sales tax would be unconstitutional in more than 
> Oregon and New Hampshire,

Uh, sales tax is better than the alternative which is the income tax
which, correct me if I'm wrong, Oregon has.  I much prefer my state of no
income tax and a sales tax, thanks.

> self-service gasoline would be banned for environmental, speed, cost and 
> safety reasons

Environmental issues are a joke.  Speed?  Hardly, last time I was in
Oregon it took me longer to gas up my car than it did outside.  And last time
I was there in an 18-wheeler they still self-served their own fuel.  Cost?
Let's see, I know have to pay for several lackeys to pump my gas for me and
that is supposed to *lower* prices?  Haha, you funny.

> more than Oregon and Illinois would have regional governments and
> urban growth boundaries,

And this is good, how, exactly?  You want all cities to be as pack as NY?

> cities other than Portland, Seattle and New York 
> would have the kind of transportation infrastructure that isn't an expensive 
> joke,

By this I presume you mean public which is in and of itself a complete
joke.  Yeah, 2 hours to get the same distance as it takes me 30 minutes on my
motorcycle.

> it would be absolutely unthinkable to have critical infrastructure like
> transit, electric, phone, water, sewer and garbage to be owned by a private 
> company, 

Just as it is unthinkable to have such things in the hands if inept
governments, which by definition, most devolve into.

> airlines would have to compete against ground transportation
> with their own money, not tax dollars.

About the only good idea right there.  Of course it isn't like ground
transportation isn't using tax money as well.

> And people actually have to ask me why I think the Oregon Territory (Oregon, 
> Washington, ~Idaho) needs to secede and undergo a velvet revolution or become 
> Canada's 14th province.

You could, uhm, just move there.  I know you want to carry everyone on
your back but, really, why not just take care of yourself first and leave
everyone else to their own devices.  I know that's an alien concept to you but
just try.

> [1]  I can do my taxes online. I can renew my car registration online. 
> I 
> can request a new address for my driver's license online. I can reserve a 
> campsite at any state park in Oregon online. I can register for unemployment 
> and apply for almost any job in the state, public or private, through the 
> state's website.  I'm even required under atrociously excessive penalty of 
> law to go to sss.gov register to be part of a draft to commit atrocities 
> against my will in a foreign land without body armor or adequate training.  
> So why not something as basic as vote?

Simple reason.  In all the other cases you're either paying money or need
to show up in person.  Voting you're doing neither.

Frankly if someone wanted to pay my car's registration for me I'll let
'em.  Kinda hard to abuse that.

Campground you have to show up, unemployment, show up, apply for jobs,
show up, serve in the military, show up.  So if someone does do any of those
for you they would be hard pressed to pass the in person check.

Vote, neither.  You're neither paying for someone else or showing up in
person to validate the on-line item.  So if someone else votes for you the
second check is a whole lot harder to perform.

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Re: 4TB filesystem

[Joshua J. Kugler]

On Friday 02 June 2006 11:55, Koos Meijering wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to create on a nfs file server a partition with the size of
> 4TB every time after a reboot the system reports there is only a 2 TB
> partition and an unused part of the disk.
> The system is an AMD Optron server, with Debian Sarge installed and de
> generic amd kernel image
> The raid controller I used is an 3ware 9500s with 12 370GB disk attached
> to it.
>
> Is it possible to create a partition larger than 2 TB and how?
> I hope somebody can help me.

What filesystem are you using? ext3? XFS? JFS?  I've had problems with large 
file systems under ext3, but never had any problems with 5.1TB filesystems 
under XFS.

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Re: 4TB filesystem

[Bart Schelstraete]

I am trying to create on a nfs file server a partition with the size of
4TB every time after a reboot the system reports there is only a 2 TB
partition and an unused part of the disk.
The system is an AMD Optron server, with Debian Sarge installed and de
generic amd kernel image
The raid controller I used is an 3ware 9500s with 12 370GB disk attached
to it.

Is it possible to create a partition larger than 2 TB and how?
I hope somebody can help me.



Depends on the Filesystem. Which filesystem are you using?


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Re: 4TB filesystem

[Gustavo Franco]

On 6/2/06, Koos Meijering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to create on a nfs file server a partition with the size of
4TB every time after a reboot the system reports there is only a 2 TB
partition and an unused part of the disk.
The system is an AMD Optron server, with Debian Sarge installed and de
generic amd kernel image
The raid controller I used is an 3ware 9500s with 12 370GB disk attached
to it.

Is it possible to create a partition larger than 2 TB and how?
I hope somebody can help me.



Hi Koos,

Are you using the standard 2.4 or 2.6 kernel ? Which filesystem, ext2/ext3 ?

regards,
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Totem-gstreamer on a fresh install

[Bill]

Hi folks, 

I have a fresh install of sarge stable and am trying to get totem to 
work.

I've successfully run the script  
/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
to install css.

I've installed gstreamer0.8-plugins.

I've set up symbolic links for /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom.

The package does work somewhat. It will play a .mpg file using 
the /cdrom device, but won't read the same disk as a dvd.

When I try to play the dvd I get error messages such as:
-Totem could not play 'file:///dev/dvd'. 
There is no plugin for this movie.
-Totem could not play dvd://
-could not open resource for reading
-failed to open reason unknown
-could not determine type of stream
-cannot open file dvd://
-no plugin to handle this movie

My best guess is that I'm overlooking something obvious about either 
the paths, plugins or devices. Can someone give me a few hints?

tia,
b.


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4TB filesystem

[Koos Meijering]

Hello,

I am trying to create on a nfs file server a partition with the size of
4TB every time after a reboot the system reports there is only a 2 TB
partition and an unused part of the disk.
The system is an AMD Optron server, with Debian Sarge installed and de
generic amd kernel image
The raid controller I used is an 3ware 9500s with 12 370GB disk attached
to it.

Is it possible to create a partition larger than 2 TB and how?
I hope somebody can help me.

Best regards
Koos Meijering


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Re: trying to get the ethernet card working on a Dell Latitude

[Andrew Perrin]

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, tom arnall wrote:


I'm trying to get the ethernet card working on a Dell Latitude c600. From
information on the itnernet, the driver for the card is '3c59x'. I am able to
load this with modprobe. But when I do 'ifconfig 3c59x eth0' I get 'eth0:
Host name lookup failure'. My kernel is 2.6.9 installed via Knoppix. Ideas?



You're confusing two steps. To install the driver, you need:

modprobe 3c59x

assuming the driver is available, not compiled into the kernel, and not 
already installed.


To configure the interface once the driver is installed, you use

ifconfig eth0

but that will only print out the information on the interface; you need to 
determine the appropriate parameters for your network and use them to set 
it up. Eventually you should put these in /etc/network/interfaces to avoid 
having to set it up maually each time.



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trying to get the ethernet card working on a Dell Latitude

[tom arnall]

I'm trying to get the ethernet card working on a Dell Latitude c600. From 
information on the itnernet, the driver for the card is '3c59x'. I am able to 
load this with modprobe. But when I do 'ifconfig 3c59x eth0' I get 'eth0: 
Host name lookup failure'. My kernel is 2.6.9 installed via Knoppix. Ideas?

thanks,

tom arnall
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Re: non-free nvidia driver on etch?

[Jonathan Pearce]

Now I've got a new weird problem. The NVIDIA TLS links are not being
created on boot. X refuses to start; it crashes on the Loading GLX
line.

When I do invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx force-reload; invoke-rc.d gdm
restart, X starts successfully.

Where do I check to make sure that /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx is getting
called on boot?

Sincerely,
Jonathan

On 5/30/06, Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The nvidia driver works great on etch,I am running it now with no problems.


On 5/30/06, Jonathan Pearce <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
I have used Andrew's Debian-nVidia HOWTO with success in the past. The
problem is that the nvidia-glx package is not available on testing at
this time. I can't use the unstable nvidia-glx package, because the
unstable package depends on xorg 1.7.0.

Is there a workaround, or should I bite the bullet and try installing
xorg 1.7.0? I would really prefer not to install xorg from unstable as
it looks like it will be a major PITA. All I want is the latest nvidia
drivers.

Sincerely,
Jonathan

On 5/30/06, Owen Heisler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 09:12 -0700, Jonathan Pearce wrote:
> > I was hoping to keep my driver installed 'the debian way' rather than
 > > install the package from Nvidia. Does anyone know how best to install
> > the nvidia graphics driver on etch?
>
> Here is a howto that I use.  It seems to be very complete.
>
http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
>
>


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Re: checkinstall

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Simone Soldateschi wrote:
> Is there a way to inform checkinstall that the package I'm building from
> sources, and going to install, it's a library which can be used to
> resolve dependencies?
> 
> I've compiled sdl 1.2.10 from sources but obviously it's not seen by apt
> like a substitute of lbsdl-1.2.10

You might want to build it yourself from the Debian sources.  All you
need is the libsdl1.2 source package (apt-get source libsdl1.2) and the
new upstream tarball.  You can then use uupdate to integrate the new
tarball into the Debian package.  After that just build the package with
a suitable changelog entry.  You can look at my howto on Debian package
customization for pointers:

http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize

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[Simone Soldateschi]

Is there a way to inform checkinstall that the package I'm building from sources, and going to install, it's a library which can be used to resolve dependencies?I've compiled sdl 1.2.10 from sources but obviously it's not seen by apt like a substitute of 
lbsdl-1.2.10Thanks in advance.// SS-- "In theory, it shouldn't be that hard, but it just needs to be done"

Re: fsck on ext3, lost files

[Linas Žvirblis]

Gary Parker wrote:

> I've searched every file in lost+found with a few different tools: gqview,
> nautilus, lde, find with file.  Although I found some of my files in various
> directories in lost+found, there are a couple of directories whose files are
> nowhere to be found there.

[...]

> Is it possible in an ext3 file system to find files outside of lost+found?

It depends. When a file is deleted (or lost), the data remains on disk.
The difference is that the kernel does no longer know that the data is
there, and treats it as free space, so it can be overwritten at any
given time. Chances of that happening increase as you do something with
the disk. Even mounting it in read-write mode may be enough to lose this
data, as there are processes invisible to user that update the file
system from time to time.

You did mount it read-only as in...

   mount -o ro /dev/disk /mnt/location

...did not you?

> I am guessing that it is not possible since lde shows these directories as 
> empty
> then I am out of luck, e.g.,

[...]

> I can retrieve the .jedrc file but there is nothing to be found of the 
> pictures
> directory in lost+found.

The "testdisk" package, I have already mentioned contains a tool called
"PhotoRec" [1] that might just do the trick. There is also "foremost"
package that may be useful.

[1] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec


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Logrotate skips a log number

[Anthony Simonelli]

For some reason, my logrotate script skips a number
every week.  As you can see, the date is sequential
but the name of the file skipped one.  I'm not losing
any logs but I would like to know why it names it like
this.  Any idea why?

2006-06-02 09:53 /var/log/mail.log
2006-06-02 03:30 /var/log/mail.log.0.gz
2006-06-01 03:30 /var/log/mail.log.1.gz
2006-05-31 03:30 /var/log/mail.log.2.gz
2006-05-30 03:30 /var/log/mail.log.3.gz
2006-05-29 03:30 /var/log/mail.log.4.gz
2006-05-28 03:30 /var/log/mail.log.5.gz
2006-05-27 03:30 /var/log/mail.log.7.gz
2006-05-26 03:30 /var/log/mail.log.8.gz

The Logrotate script:

/var/log/mail.log {
   daily
   missingok
   start 0
   rotate 28
   compress
}


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Re: What is in openoffice.org-core04u?

[Liam O'Toole]

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:53:22 -0700
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Liam O'Toole wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0700
> >Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Apt-cache depends shows openoffice.org-core04u as being dependant
> >>on kdelibs4, which is, of couse, dependant on libarts1. 
> >>
> >>I have OpenOffice 2 installed from the tarball at openoffice.org,
> >>and then converted using alien.  Apt is not showing anything else
> >>from oo.o that is to be removed.  Is this file just for
> >>compatibility with KDE? Can I safely remove it without making a
> >>mess of OO.o, as long as I am not running KDE?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >See the output of 'dpkg -s openoffice.org-core04u'.
> >
> >  
> >
> That is the same as 'apt-cache show openoffice.org-core04u' which I
> had already done:
> -
>

[SNIP]

> 
> Can anyone give me a clue as to whether I need this package, or not?
> 
> Please.
> 

No, this is doing a lot more than providing KDE compatibility. Removing
it will cripple openoffice.

Are you running Sarge? OOo2 has been backported:

http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/

Note that the official openoffice.org-core packages (in Etch and Sid)
do not depend on kdelibs4; I expect that the same will be true of the
backported package.


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Re: What is in openoffice.org-core04u?

[Marc Shapiro]

Liam O'Toole wrote:


On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0700
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

Apt-cache depends shows openoffice.org-core04u as being dependant on 
kdelibs4, which is, of couse, dependant on libarts1. 

I have OpenOffice 2 installed from the tarball at openoffice.org, and 
then converted using alien.  Apt is not showing anything else from

oo.o that is to be removed.  Is this file just for compatibility with
KDE? Can I safely remove it without making a mess of OO.o, as long as
I am not running KDE?


   


See the output of 'dpkg -s openoffice.org-core04u'.

 

That is the same as 'apt-cache show openoffice.org-core04u' which I had 
already done:

-
$ apt-cache show openoffice.org-core04u
Package: openoffice.org-core04u
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: alien
Installed-Size: 61588
Maintainer: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 2.0.0-4
Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6.2), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libc6 (>= 
2.3.2.ds1-21), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), 
libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libice6 | xlibs (>> 
4.1.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.8.1), libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4), libsm6 | 
xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libsndfile1 (>= 1.0.2-1), libstdc++6 (>= 3.4.3-1), 
libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxml2 (>= 
2.6.16)

Description: Office core module for OpenOffice.org 2.0
Office core module for OpenOffice.org 2.0
.
(Converted from a rpm package by alien version 8.52.)
-


Perhaps the actual Debian package would have a more complete 
description, but ...


The output of
'apt-cache rdepends'
shows nothing (as it does for all of the *-core* packages:
-
$ apt-cache rdepends openoffice.org-core04u
openoffice.org-core04u
Reverse Depends:
-


The ouptput from:
   'dpkg -L openoffice.org-core04u'.
shows a *lot* of libraries (but what is actually dependant on them?):

-

$ dpkg -L openoffice.org-core04u
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/openoffice.org-core04u
/usr/share/doc/openoffice.org-core04u/copyright
/usr/share/doc/openoffice.org-core04u/changelog.Debian.gz
/opt
/opt/openoffice.org2.0
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdba680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbaxml680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbtools680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbu680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libfrm680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libfwe680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libfwi680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libfwk680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libfwl680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libgo680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libpdffilter680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libpsp680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsb680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsch680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsd680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsdui680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsfx680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libspa680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsts680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsvl680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsvt680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsvx680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libsw680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libtk680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libtl680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libutl680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libvcl680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libvclplug_gen680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libvclplug_gtk680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libvclplug_kde680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libxo680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libxof680li.so.1.1
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libabp680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libavmedia680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libbasctl680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libbasegfx680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libbib680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libbindet680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libcanvastools680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libcppcanvas680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libctl680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libcui680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdba680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbacfg680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbase680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbaxml680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbp680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbtools680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdbu680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libdtransX11680li.so
/opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/libegi680li.so

Re: fsck on ext3, lost files

[Gary Parker]

Linas Žvirblis <0x0007  gmail.com> writes:
> What I mean, is that if files were in a certain directory, they can no
> longer be in that one directory. You will probably need to check all of
> them to find what you are looking for.

Thanks for your advice.  File confirms the identities of files I was unsure of.

I've searched every file in lost+found with a few different tools: gqview,
nautilus, lde, find with file.  Although I found some of my files in various
directories in lost+found, there are a couple of directories whose files are
nowhere to be found there.

I had about 4 GB of image files in one directory.  du shows that lost+found is
only about 0.5 GB.

Is it possible in an ext3 file system to find files outside of lost+found?

I am guessing that it is not possible since lde shows these directories as empty
then I am out of luck, e.g., 
0x:  pictures
0x00097D35: -rw-r--r--  2179 .jedrc

I can retrieve the .jedrc file but there is nothing to be found of the pictures
directory in lost+found.

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Re: Quad Monitor nVidia on Etch -- UNSTABLE

[Greg Folkert]

On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 13:50 -0400, James Wiggs wrote: 
>  Folks,
> 
>I am trying to get a quad-monitor system running using the PNY
> Quadro NVS 440 PCI Express x16 video card.  Here are the system
> specs:
> 
> Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI
> P/S: Aspire ATX-AS520W Blue 520 Watt
> CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
> RAM: 4 x 1GB DDR 400 Unbuffered
> Card: nVidia Quadro NVS 440 PCI Express x16 (manufacturer: PNY)
> OS: Debian Etch, i386 install (NOT x64_64)
> X.org: 6.9.0
> Kernel: 2.6.15-8-686-smp
> nVidia driver: Latest as of 5/30/06 (1.0-8762)
> Monitors: 4 x Benq FP93G
> 
>After doing the initial installation of Debian, I downloaded
> the binary driver installer directly from the nVidia website, and
> ran it without any errors.  X however, is horrifically unstable
> when running all four monitors as a contiguous desktop.  After
> only a few minutes, it freezes up.  Most times, the mouse will
> still move but windows are unresponsive and the keyboard does
> not work; sometimes, not even the mouse responds.  I have to log
> in via SSH, where I find Xorg taking 100% of one core on the CPU
> and I have to do a kill -9 to stop it.
[...SNIP...]

If I were you, I would not use the straight binary installer from
nVidia.

aptitude install module-assistant
m-a update && m-a a-i nvidia-source
aptitude install nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-glx

Then use the tools to configure it properly. That should help reduce the
instability. May not clear it up, but then you can mostly eliminate
Debian Etch being the problem.

And, to tell the truth, I have been on Sid forever, seems like the
nVidia stuff works better in Sid than in Etch or Sarge.

I dunno, maybe the quad support sucks.
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Re: ppp multi provider

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Lawrence Nahum wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a computer with a two 56k serial modem that serve internet 
> connectivity to my lan.
> I have different providers (ISP) and I sometimes I need both 
> connections UP.
> Is the first time i use ppp on linux, i've checked some howto and  yes,
> i'm a little confused.
> pon, poff, chat,  and the two type of authentication available (CHAP 
> and PAP)..
> 
> I need to do all via a non interactive way since the all  configuration
> need to be managed by an application on the webserver  and i wonder what
> is the best way.
> I have all the ISP data (phone number, user, password) given via 
> webinterface and I need to generate the configuration on the fly.
> 
> Thanks for any answer.
> 
> Lawrence
> 
> 

shorewall has the ability to handle multi-ISP setups.  I don't see why
it would be a problem if both ISPs were dialup.

-Roberto

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Re: /etc/hosts.deny how to use it?

[s. keeling]

Chuck Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  I am being hit by some ips that I like to block. I like to know how can 
>  I use hosts.deny for the ALL statement

Have you looked at the contents of hosts.deny?  I find this in there:

 # Example:ALL: some.host.name, .some.domain


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Re: floppy disks for netinstall

[George Borisov]

gustavo halperin wrote:
> 
> Do you know where are floppy disks images for netinstall ?

http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst

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Re: floppy disks for netinstall

[Henrique G. Abreu]

I don't think it exists!
you can see all installing options on debian site:
http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/

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ppp multi provider

[Lawrence Nahum]

Hi all,

I have a computer with a two 56k serial modem that serve internet  
connectivity to my lan.
I have different providers (ISP) and I sometimes I need both  
connections UP.
Is the first time i use ppp on linux, i've checked some howto and  
yes, i'm a little confused.
pon, poff, chat,  and the two type of authentication available (CHAP  
and PAP)..


I need to do all via a non interactive way since the all  
configuration need to be managed by an application on the webserver  
and i wonder what is the best way.
I have all the ISP data (phone number, user, password) given via  
webinterface and I need to generate the configuration on the fly.


Thanks for any answer.

Lawrence


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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Stephen]

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 12:00:24PM +0300 or thereabouts, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Heck even some republics have a figure head of state, France for example
> > has a Prime Minister and a President. If memory serves, the Prime Minister 
> > is the defacto head of state, but the president has the power. It might be 
> > the other way around, but you get the idea, this is hardly a new concept, 
> > except probably to Americans. ;)
> 
> France is not the best example, because AFAIK the power is shared. I
> know this because the Romanian system was inspired by the French. An
> unfortunate choice if you ask me.

Hi Andrei:

I stand corrected, and thanks for pointing out my inaccuracy. According
to wikipedia you're absolutely correct;


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Re: is it a bad idea to use unstable on a server ?

[Jon Dowland]

At 1149178775 past the epoch, Felix C. Stegerman wrote:
> Do you think that security support for unstable is good
> enough for this?  Or should I just go with stable +
> backports?

I don't use unstable on servers anymore so I don't know if
security support is good enough, although I know it is
significantly better than it has been in the past, thanks to
the testing security team (who, iirc, also cover sid).

> ~ vim: set ft=mail tw=70 sw=2 sts=2 et:

^^ interesting idea, I think I shall borrow it :)

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Re: LAN

[Jon Dowland]

At 1149233095 past the epoch, Peter Vandenabeele wrote:
> If want to add the security of ssh/scp to it, try sftp
> (but that may slow down the transfer speed due to
> encryption/decryption).

Or speed it up, with compressible data, by supplying the -C
command.

I think you can also ask SSH to use a faster cypher suite
(such as blowfish) if you are having significant speed
issues.

I find SSH much more convenient than ftp et al because of
this. In addition there's no nasty firewall issues / passive
mode madness as it all goes through 22; no ascii/binary
transfer distinction; you've got shell and file transfer
out-of-the-box and a rough-and-ready remote filesystem with
sshfs.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Andrei Popescu]

Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Heck even some republics have a figure head of state, France for example
> has a Prime Minister and a President. If memory serves, the Prime Minister 
> is the defacto head of state, but the president has the power. It might be 
> the other way around, but you get the idea, this is hardly a new concept, 
> except probably to Americans. ;)

France is not the best example, because AFAIK the power is shared. I
know this because the Romanian system was inspired by the French. An
unfortunate choice if you ask me.

I prefer the German (and Austrian) system, where the President is really
just a figure, and the Chancellor (Prime Minister) has the power. This
way you can reelect a good Prime Minister for more than just 2 terms,
but get rid of him if you want it, see Helmut Kohl.

Andrei
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Re: LAN

[Kelly Clowers]

On 6/1/06, Francesco Pietra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My system consists of two machines, one running debian 32 testing and equipped
with KDE, the other one amd64 debian testing with no GUI (undesired) and only
X-system and window manager twm.  Both operated by single user.

Both are connected ADSL through to a common 4-port router Zyxel Prestige 660H.

I would be grateful for suggestions  as to where to look for directions as to
exchanging files through the router between the two machines from terminal
window commands.

Most common tasks include internet downloading with 32 and passing files to
64, as well as performing calculations at 64 and passing results to 32.
Obvious requests.

Thanks a lot for indications.

francesco pietra


As others suggested, scp (part of ssh) or nfs is the way to go. You could use
ftp, but it is insecure. On the other hand, it doesn't matter so much when both
machines are behind the router/firewall.

As far as one machine being 32 bit and one being 64 bit, it doesn't make any
difference for regular data files.

An x86-64 executable file or library would not run on a x86-32 machine, but
a 32 bit executable or library can work on x86-64 (in compatibility mode).


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Re: What is in openoffice.org-core04u?

[Liam O'Toole]

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0700
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In my continuing effort to remove as much of KDE and GNOME as
> possible from my system, I have come across scite to replace kate,
> and galculator to replace kcalc.  Since I only use konqueror to read
> html documentation, dillo can replace that.  That would appear to be
> all that I really need to replace.  A simple apt-get --purge remove
> libarts1 seems to be the best way top then purge all of KDE at one
> blow, but it also wants to remove openoffic dpkg -s
> openoffice.org-core04ue.org-core04u.
> 
> Apt-cache depends shows openoffice.org-core04u as being dependant on 
> kdelibs4, which is, of couse, dependant on libarts1. 
> 
> I have OpenOffice 2 installed from the tarball at openoffice.org, and 
> then converted using alien.  Apt is not showing anything else from
> oo.o that is to be removed.  Is this file just for compatibility with
> KDE? Can I safely remove it without making a mess of OO.o, as long as
> I am not running KDE?
> 
> I have Googled the file, but have not found anything that seemed
> useful.
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.
> 

See the output of 'dpkg -s openoffice.org-core04u'.

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