Re: aptitude update "BADSIG" Error (getting silly now)

[Nick Boyce]

Florian Kulzer wrote:


On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:29:47 +, Nick Boyce wrote:

Just wondering whether anyone here understands the cause of the "BADSIG"
error from "aptitude update"

[...]

The usual suggested causes involve Debian mirrors in an inconsistent
state while updating, broken packages, or corruptions in the package
lists as a result of broken network connections.


Those are all the innocent explanations I can think of. More paranoid
explanations would go along the lines of someone trying to slip you
doctored packages via a man-in-the-middle attack. However, in your case
I think your proxy is the most likely culprit (see below).


Thanks very much for your very comprehensive answer - I understand it 
would be most unlikely for there to be a genuine signing problem on 
security.d.o, and I guess if an "inconsistent mirror" problem caused the 
same trouble for everybody then it would be addressed.


I'm inclined to agree with you about our proxy having a caching problem, 
and I like your suggestion of using 'wget' to flush the proxy's cache 
before the 'aptitude update'.  It seems odd however, that such a problem 
could exist (big company, commercial web proxy), and be solvable by just 
repeating the download.


I will try the investigations you suggest :


You can put the IP addresses into your sources.list instead and check if
the error is tied to one particular server:



The next time when the problem appears, make a backup copy of
/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_Release.gpg
and check if the file has changed after you rerun "apt-get update" 


But I'm away from the office at the moment, and this won't be for a 
couple of weeks.



Maybe the caching behavior of your proxy for these files
can be reconfigured.


The proxy itself is administered by a far-off group within our company 
and it would be difficult for me to get any investigation done for this 
particular problem - if there are no apparent caching problems for other 
usages then Debian would probably be blamed :(


If I can assemble more evidence I'll try to contact them though.


Does your nightly cronjob hit the server always at
exactly the same time?


Yes - 03:10(GMT) as I recall.

>> Anyway, what exactly seems to have been badly signed ?  The error
>> message doesn't really make sense :
>>
>>> GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release:
>>> The following signatures were invalid:
>>> BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1 Debian Archive Automatic
>>> Signing Key (4.0/etch)
>>
> The message means that a bad signature was detected, which was
> (supposedly) made with the key number A70DAF536070D3A1.

FWIW, I still think the message could be clearer about the name of the 
file whose signature failed to verify - thankfully you were able to tell me.


Thanks again.

Nick Boyce
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debian sdcc + pic16f877a help

[jeffry s]

is there anyone here who work on pic16f877a. i am using debian sid.
and doing c programming for pic16f877a. but i am  new and don't have any
idea how
to start. anyone can help me or point me a good sdcc+pic tutorial out there.

it  seems not so many i can found by asking google :(

thanks..

Re: curious -anyone else seeing this?

[Mumia W..]

On 03/25/2008 08:22 PM, David Fox wrote:

Recently I'm getting a bounce message on every post to debian-user. I
figure some of you who post a lot more than I do can see what is going
on. I just got one again:

from[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
dateTue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM
subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
mailed-by   smtp-out3.iol.cz
[...]


I get these too. I just created a filter for them a few minutes ago.



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Re: migrating to 64 bit...

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 07:38:17PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West >  That means I
> get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal
> 
> >  preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an opportunity to attempt to
> >  migrate a running system from 32 to 64 bit. I also have the
> >  opportunity to practice on my laptop which could run 64 bit but
> 
> Here's a thought. If you can use the laptop, go ahead, but can you
> carve out a small place on your desktop for this? I suggest basically
> doing a new partition, doing a debootstrap of the current version of
> debian you already use, for the amd64 architecture. Prior to doing the
> debootstrap, use dpkg --set-selections and save that in a convenient
> place, then do a dpkg --get-selections to get all the packages you
> already have.

yeah, that's the sensible way. I'm just always looking for ways to
make it more difficult as a learning process. For example, I recently
implemented encryption on my laptop *after* installation by jumping
through all sorts of hoops ... never had an unusable system during the
whole process. I consider it a great learning tool so that if I ever
have something truly go south then I understand pretty well how it
all works and can hopefully rescue it.

> 
> It's an approach I'm thinking of doing if I ever get the opporunity to
> move to 64bit userland. Here's hoping. ;)
> 
> But I wonder if it'll break, so maybe you want to do this on the
> laptop instead :).

yes, the laptop will be a test bed before the real machine gets
done...

one thing I just came up with is doing a find for all debs in
/var/cache/apt/archives that contain i386 in the filename. THose will
all have to be replaced... I'm sure a simple scripted wget would get
that done...

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Re: aptitude update "BADSIG" Error (getting silly now)

[Nick Boyce]

Andrei Popescu wrote:


On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:29:47AM +, Nick Boyce wrote:

Just wondering whether anyone here understands the cause of the "BADSIG"
error from "aptitude update"

[...]
Yes, I used to get this a lot with ftp.ro.debian.org. I switched to 
using ftp.at.debian.org and got rid of this.


Interesting ... although I'm reporting this in respect of security.d.o 
I'm fairly sure I've also seen it with ftp.de.debian.org ... I suppose 
main repository 'Release' files will usually only change when there's 
been a point release, and mostly it's the security.d.o files that will 
be changing.  I'll pay attention on the next point release.


P.S. Recently I ran apt-spy. It turned out ftp.at.debian.org is the best 
mirror for me. ftp.ro.debian.org didn't even make the top 5.


Good tip - I'll try that - our company's firewall is in Germany, but 
your experience shows I should check.  Thanks.


Nick Boyce
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Re: curious -anyone else seeing this?

[Mark Allums]

> from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,
> date Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM
> subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> mailed-by smtp-out3.iol.cz
>
>
>
> Reply
>
>
> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
>
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I got this the only two other times I ever posted to this list.  At the 
time, I thought it was the way I posted them, as I committed a list sin: 
 accidentally hit reply: instead of reply all: and the message went off 
to the poster, not the list server.  So I had to send the messages again.


Anyway, I am getting the message, too.  Must be a misconfigured mail 
server somewhere.


--Mark Allums


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Re: dual boot install from debian 4.0r1 net install cdrom

[Rich Healey]

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Tim Channon wrote:
> michael wrote:
> 
>> i've just used the default and expertgui debian net install and there
>> is an option for manually controlling the partitioning process
> 
> Yes *is* there but perhaps not clearly enough.
> 
> Maybe this will be useful information: -
> 
> You can play around with the partitioner, try various things and it will
> NOT change the disk until you exit the partitioner where it warns then
> about Write to disk, and you can say don't.
> 
> I suspect we have a slightly garbled plea for help. The real question is
>  "How do I shrink a Windows partition to make room for Debian?" which is
> a totally different question. That facility is not in the 'net install.
> 
> Probably the best bet is use a live-CD, boot into RAM (won't touch the
> hard disk) with Gnome GUI and there should be the much more complex
> repartitioner there which can hopefully resize the NTFS Windows
> partition. Then install Debian.
> 
> 

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Re: /etc/hosts + resolvconf (was Re: associating names and addresses)

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:22:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# less /etc/hosts
>   127.0.0.1   box localhost
> 
> > Conclusion
> > Well now I see that the correct solution to 
> > the original problem was to leave /etc/hosts 
> > with the line 
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
> > and install resolvconf.  Unfortunately, this 
> > was not recognized at the time and the message 
> > from Xfce was misleading.
> 
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache policy resolvconf
>   resolvconf:
> Installed: (none)
>   [..]
> 
> So thats ok? But If resolvconf is installed then /etc/hosts should be:
> 
>   127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost
> 
> Is that correct?

The way I look at it is thus:

If the box is stand-alone, not on any network, and you want to give it a
name other than "localhost", then just do:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost fred

with "fred" in /etc/hostname.

If the box is stand-alone with dial-up ppp to the internet, just do the
same thing.

However, once you have a NIC and have an interface other than lo, then
assign the box's hostname to that NIC, e.g:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.0.1 fred

And if there is any chance of expanding your network in the future, give
yourself a domain name now:
192.168.0.1 fred.myhome fred

Having the resolvconf package is primarily useful if you have various
dynamic sources of DNS info.  I.e. you have ppp, you sometimes use
another local box or you sometimes access the internet with ethernet
(e.g. a laptop box that travels).

I haven't found any UNIX book that talks about the contents of
/etc/hosts on a box that isn't on a network.  I don's see a problem
putting the localhost in the 127.0.0.1 line; it means that you can 

$ ping fred

and ping the localhost.  More importantly, it helps if you, e.g.
misconfigure your MTA and it tries to do a DNS lookup before it sends
the mail to itself, it will find itself.

I hope this helps.

If you want more definitive UNIX networking, try "UNIX System
Administration Handbook".

Doug.


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Re: curious -anyone else seeing this?

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:55PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> Recently I'm getting a bounce message on every post to debian-user. I
> figure some of you who post a lot more than I do can see what is going
> on. I just got one again:
> 
> from  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> to[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> date  Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM
> subject   Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> mailed-by smtp-out3.iol.cz
>   
 

All I can say is "Me Too".

Doug.


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Re: migrating to 64 bit...

[David Fox]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West <
>  I've done some preliminary research and found the following links:
>
>  http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/index.html

But that article is trying to get you to upgrade the architecture in
place, which to me seems even though it might be possible, fraught
with possible issues. You might end up with a usable system, but if
you depend on it, you don't want to do something that in all
likelihood break your system. Doing a separate install is the better
choice, I would think.


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Re: migrating to 64 bit...

[David Fox]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West >  That means I
get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal

>  preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an opportunity to attempt to
>  migrate a running system from 32 to 64 bit. I also have the
>  opportunity to practice on my laptop which could run 64 bit but

Here's a thought. If you can use the laptop, go ahead, but can you
carve out a small place on your desktop for this? I suggest basically
doing a new partition, doing a debootstrap of the current version of
debian you already use, for the amd64 architecture. Prior to doing the
debootstrap, use dpkg --set-selections and save that in a convenient
place, then do a dpkg --get-selections to get all the packages you
already have.

It's an approach I'm thinking of doing if I ever get the opporunity to
move to 64bit userland. Here's hoping. ;)

But I wonder if it'll break, so maybe you want to do this on the
laptop instead :).


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Re: curious -anyone else seeing this?

[Dee McKinney]

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From: David Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: curious -anyone else seeing this?

Recently I'm getting a bounce message on every post to debian-user. I
  figure some of you who post a lot more than I do can see what is going
  on. I just got one again:
  
We see this.



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curious -anyone else seeing this?

[David Fox]

Recently I'm getting a bounce message on every post to debian-user. I
figure some of you who post a lot more than I do can see what is going
on. I just got one again:

from[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
dateTue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM
subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
mailed-by   smtp-out3.iol.cz



Reply


This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.2
X-Display-Name: Administrator

Hey [EMAIL PROTECTED], please fix your broken mail server!


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Re: dual boot install from debian 4.0r1 net install cdrom

[Tim Channon]

michael wrote:

i've just used the default and expertgui debian net install and there is 
an option for manually controlling the partitioning process


Yes *is* there but perhaps not clearly enough.

Maybe this will be useful information: -

You can play around with the partitioner, try various things and it will 
NOT change the disk until you exit the partitioner where it warns then 
about Write to disk, and you can say don't.


I suspect we have a slightly garbled plea for help. The real question is 
 "How do I shrink a Windows partition to make room for Debian?" which 
is a totally different question. That facility is not in the 'net install.


Probably the best bet is use a live-CD, boot into RAM (won't touch the 
hard disk) with Gnome GUI and there should be the much more complex 
repartitioner there which can hopefully resize the NTFS Windows 
partition. Then install Debian.



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Re: Digital Camera

[David Fox]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
>  camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.

rant - I hate proprietary usb cables. I got screwed by that experience ;(.

>  No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P

Darn. Hope you have success.


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/etc/hosts + resolvconf (was Re: associating names and addresses)

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 09:21:22AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Douglas & anyone else interested,
> 
> At Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:12:44 -0400 Douglas Tutty wrote,
> >> # /etc/hosts file
> >> 127.0.0.1   peasthope.yi.orgjoule   localhost
> >  ^^
> >this should be: localhost.localdomainlocalhost
> >
> >if you don't own peasthope.yi.org, then I wouldn't use it even locally.

Mmmm, ... I have:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# less /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   box localhost

> Conclusion
> Well now I see that the correct solution to 
> the original problem was to leave /etc/hosts 
> with the line 
> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
> and install resolvconf.  Unfortunately, this 
> was not recognized at the time and the message 
> from Xfce was misleading.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache policy resolvconf
resolvconf:
  Installed: (none)
[..]

So thats ok? But If resolvconf is installed then /etc/hosts should be:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost

Is that correct?

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Re: Digital Camera

[Ron Johnson]

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On 03/25/08 19:00, s. keeling wrote:
> David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
>>>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
>>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
>>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
> 
> Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.
> 
>>  Does that camera mount as a USB device or PTP?
> 
> USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
> camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.
> 
>>  was supported. But it has a better chance of being supported possibly
>>  because there are free "open" (so called) drivers on the Net for it.
>>  Which of course, could mean anything, like a binary wrapper claiming
>>  they gave you source code when they really didn't.
> 
> About as useful as that Windows zip file I pulled down off their
> website the other night.  Don't know what I'm going to do with it, but
> I have it.
> 
>> >From 'gphoto2" on my system - it seems that these are the same models
>>  that digikam supports, presumably because digikam uses gphoto2 as a a
>>  backend (not sure about this).
> 
> That's what I read as well.
> 
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gphoto2 --list-cameras | grep Concord
>>  "Concord Eye-Q Duo" (EXPERIMENTAL)
> 
> Same list here.
> 
>>  Again, not the exact model, but this is a good starting point. Another
>>  possibility (should this not be helpful) would be to inquire on the
>>  gphoto2 mailing list. I did that before to get feedback and to help
> 
> I'll troll their archives.  Thanks.
> 
>>  All this is moot IF your camera supports a removable SD card (which it
> 
> No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P

I think I'd just try this, and see what happens:

# gphoto2 --verbose --auto-detect

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Re: amd 690g chipset

[Celejar]

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:50:37 -0400
"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 07:45:47PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:56:45 -0400
> > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I would suggest trying links2.  It is light weight but does javascript,
> > > SSL, etc and will help you decide if the problem is the browser or the
> > > video rendering.
> > 
> > I don't see javascript support in my links2, and according to the
> > changelog, it was removed in v. 2.1pre29:
> 
> Well, I'm running Etch with links2 at version 2.1pre26.  If javascript
> is removed that's too bad.  I wonder if there's another text-only
> browser with javascript.

I looked high and low, but could not find one.  Also, note that
Javascript support was removed from links2 because it was in pretty bad
shape, as per the changelog:



Javascript was removed. The reason is that it is very buggy, Martin
Pergel doesn't have time to develop it and code is so messy that no one
else can understand it.



> Doug.

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Re: IBM DB2 V9.5 32 bits failed to allocate share memory

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:51:23AM +0100, Strong Cypher wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for answer
> 
> So here all collection I can do to find the problem :
> 
> Yeah there is some difference ... perhaps I could try to copy the kernel
> config of redhat on a debian with the same version of kernel and see ... I
> will try that

Maybe, but see below.

> So here the DB2 log
[..]
> MESSAGE : ZRC=0x850F0005=-2062614523=SQLO_NOSEG
>   "No Storage Available for allocation"
 ^^^
>   DIA8305C Memory allocation failure occurred.
> DATA #1 : 
> Unable to attach 3 segments totalling 566165504 bytes starting at address
> 0x.  One possible cause may be an improper setting for the
> shmmax Linux kernel tuneable.
  ^
Here is your clue, right there.

> ... So the problem appear during the installation process ... I have never
> see that on the redhat system

compare:

cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax

on the Debian system with the redhat system.

To alter the setting, e.g.:

echo 10 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax

will allow a segment up to one billion bytes.

The error (from above):

Unable to attach 3 segments totalling 566165504 bytes

will help determine the value.

If you reboot your computer, you will lose that setting so you will have
to put it in a local init script.

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Re: Digital Camera

[s. keeling]

David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
> >  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
> 
>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.

Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.

>  Does that camera mount as a USB device or PTP?

USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.

>  was supported. But it has a better chance of being supported possibly
>  because there are free "open" (so called) drivers on the Net for it.
>  Which of course, could mean anything, like a binary wrapper claiming
>  they gave you source code when they really didn't.

About as useful as that Windows zip file I pulled down off their
website the other night.  Don't know what I'm going to do with it, but
I have it.

> >From 'gphoto2" on my system - it seems that these are the same models
>  that digikam supports, presumably because digikam uses gphoto2 as a a
>  backend (not sure about this).

That's what I read as well.

>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gphoto2 --list-cameras | grep Concord
>  "Concord Eye-Q Duo" (EXPERIMENTAL)

Same list here.

>  Again, not the exact model, but this is a good starting point. Another
>  possibility (should this not be helpful) would be to inquire on the
>  gphoto2 mailing list. I did that before to get feedback and to help

I'll troll their archives.  Thanks.

>  All this is moot IF your camera supports a removable SD card (which it

No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P


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migrating to 64 bit...

[Andrew Sackville-West]

Hey list,

I am getting to upgrade (woo-hoo!) from my crusty old -k7 box to a
shiny new core2duo blah blah blah box. 

That means I get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal
preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an opportunity to attempt to
migrate a running system from 32 to 64 bit. I also have the
opportunity to practice on my laptop which could run 64 bit but
currently isn't. The laptop is really just a duplicate of my desktop
machine in terms of data and apps, so it should be a fairly good test
bed.

I've done some preliminary research and found the following links:

http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/index.html

claims it can be done if you follow the right steps, and it seems
reasonable to me... though the blink tag does put the fear in me. But
there is no date, and based on the versions of .deb listed appears to
be rather out of date...

then there is this:

http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292796

which specifically says: 

 No. You need to reinstall on a newly formatted partition or disk, by
 either running cdebootstrap / debootstrap from your running
 installation or using the Debian-Installer.

when asked about upgrading a running system. But that was last updated
in 2006...

Most all else I've found addresses *running* 64 bits not migrating to
it. 

So, I'm looking for pointers, horror/success stories etc... to guide
me through this process.

One particular concern, as far as the laptop goes, is whether I can
migrate an encrypted luks partition from 32 to 64 bits. That whole
system is encrypted except for /boot and the encrypted partitions are
underneath lvm as well... hmmm... that could be sticky eh? 

I look forward to your advice.

A



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Re: Errant ld-linux.so.2

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Joost Witteveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 25/03/2008, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Every now and then, I have an apparently memory-leaking ld-linux.so.2
>  >  process running.  When I kill it, nothing else seems adversely
>  >  affected.  Is there some way I can identify what's spawned it?
>
>  Normally you would be able to see what process spawned what using
>   ps axf
>
>  (f:   ASCII-art process hierarchy (forest))
>  But I suppose in your case you may not see much interesting output.
>  In that case, I'd write a short shell script that does ps ax>file
>  continually, to try and see when the process starts to appear.

Thanks - I've been using Linux for years and never knew you could do
that (see the forest, that is)!  I think I'll probably wait until
there's an instance running and then discover what spawned it.

Patrick


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Re: etch: cannot mount usb hd

[Bernardo Dal Seno]

On 24/03/2008, Jörg Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, I don't find any error or warning message about my sdc2, but from
>  device-mapper, in the kernel logs.

>  Mar 19 16:19:41 gandalf kernel: Filesystem "dm-0": Disabling barriers, not
>  supported by the underlying device

This sounds as a harmless warning.

>  Mar 19 16:19:41 gandalf kernel: device-mapper: table: 254:8: linear:
>  dm-linear: Device lookup failed
>  Mar 19 16:19:41 gandalf kernel: device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to
>  table

These sound as something wrong, but I don't know anything about the
device mapper, so I'm not sure if they are relevant to your problem.
Have you googled for this errors?  Have you tried to disabled the
device mapper (if nothing depends on it)?

Sometimes it helps to boot from a CD (e.g., Debian installer,
Knoppix), and see what happens with a different configuration.  If the
error is still there you can concentrate on the similarities between
your configuration and that of the CD; if the error goes away you
concentrate on the differences.

Regards,
Bernardo

Re: exim/postfix comparisons

[Nate Duehr]

Kevin Mark wrote:

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:13:19PM +0100, Martin Marcher wrote:

PS: if there's a compelling reason to go in the sendmail direction (or
any other mta) i'm willing to do that, but I refuse qmail because of
licensing issues

Are you aware that qmail is now 'public domain' as of last year?
-K


DSFG Free, or not?

If not... don't bother.

Qmail is fast, and can handle an incredible amount of mail thrown at it, 
but it has some quirks that make it a real pain in the ass in 
production.  Mostly its bounce-handling.


Having to recompile it all the time to add features, also sucks.

Add in that even if it's "Public Domain", the author never wnated to 
work with the community to make it better... he just washed his hands of 
it, and features that should have been rolled into it, instead have 
always had to be patched in from source and the entire system rebuilt to 
get standard features that other MTA's had safely and successfully added 
along the way.


The licensing issues weren't what the main problem was, but those issues 
along with the source/rebuild cycle and other operational weirdnesses, 
also made me feel that qmail... was a giant pain in the ass.


Nate


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Re: What's heppening to Debian? Mono?

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 14:08:39 -0400, machiner wrote:
> All apologies, I posted this earlier to the wrong list.
> 
> Won't someone please tell me why Debian is installing mono by default with the
> installation of Gnome on Lenny?
> 
> Tue Mar 25, 12:13 # aptitude install gnome

[...]

>   mono-common{a} mono-gac{a} mono-jit{a} mono-runtime{a}
> 
> ...
> 
>   tomboy{a} 
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   abiword{a} 
> 0 packages upgraded, 262 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> Need to get 54.5MB/283MB of archives. After unpacking 780MB will be used.

Run aptitude with "-D" to get a bit more information about dependencies.
Even better, use the glorious "aptitude why(-not)" command:

$ aptitude why mono-runtime
i   xwine   Depends  libgnomeui32 (>= 1.4.2-3)
i A libgnomeui32Depends  gnome-libs-data (= 1.4.2-37)
i A gnome-libs-data Depends  gnome-bin
i A gnome-bin   Suggests gnome-core
p   gnome-core  Depends  gnome-applets (>= 2.20.0)
p   gnome-applets   Suggests tomboy
p   tomboy  Depends  mono-runtime (>= 1.1.8.1)

It seems that tomboy would be to blame on my system. You result may be
different, of course.

> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   gamin: Conflicts: fam but 2.7.0-13.1 is to be installed.
> Resolving dependencies...
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
> 
> Keep the following packages at their current version:
> fam [Not Installed]
> 
> Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
> gnome-desktop-environment recommends fam
> gnome-screensaver recommends rss-glx
> nautilus recommends fam
> Score is -541
> 
> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] HELL NO!

Why not? The unresolved dependencies are only recommendations and gamin
largely (or even completely?) replaces fam, AFAIK. 

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Re: dependencies woes with Debian MediaWiki package

[Simon Jolle sjolle]

On 03/24/2008 03:53 PM, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>   I apologize for taking so long to get back to you.

No Problem :-)

>   I asked whether you were running etch because the unstable/testing
> version of mediawiki doesn't have dependencies that would pull in the
> stuff you're talking about.  I've taken a brief look at the stable
> version, and I think I see what's happening.  You can probably install
> links or add --without-recommends to the command-line to get a saner
> install.

I actually did this, but have still a lot of dependencies:

[...]
0 packages upgraded, 71 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 227MB/230MB of archives. After unpacking 564MB will be used.


I will take the Debian way.

>   * Mozilla: iceape-browser gets installed because tetex-doc recommends
>  it.  tetex-doc is recommended by tetex-base, which is
>pulled in by tetex-bin.
> 
>This is the cause of most of your problems; if you install
>a text-mode browser like links, it will fulfill this
>dependency and iceape won't get installed.
> 
>   * Gnome/GTK+: pulled in by Mozilla, as far as I can tell.
> 
>   * X11: some of these are really necessary.  mediawiki-math needs latex
> and Ghostscript components, and these depend on X11 libraries
> because they manipulate X11 fonts and/or can connect to an X server.
> 
>   * Latex: for mediawiki-math.
> 
>   * Sound server: I think this is pulled in by Gnome/GTK+.
> 
>   * portmap: Pulled in by fam (part of Gnome)

thank you

>   Daniel

cheers Simon




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Re: What's heppening to Debian? Mono?

[Micha]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:08:39 -0400
machiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All apologies, I posted this earlier to the wrong list.
> 
> Won't someone please tell me why Debian is installing mono by default with the
> installation of Gnome on Lenny?
> 

You can open the package in aptitude (probably synaptic but I don't know it).
If you look near the bottom of the package description there is an option of
packages which depend on ...
if you press enter on it, it will open and show you all packages depending on a
given package and their install status.

> Tue Mar 25, 12:13 # aptitude install gnome
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree   
> Reading state information... Done
> Reading extended state information  
> Initializing package states... Done
> Reading task descriptions... Done  
> Building tag database... Done
> The following packages are BROKEN:
>   gamin 
> The following packages have been kept back:
>   rpm{a} 
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> 
> 
> 
>   libmono-addins0.2-cil{a} 
>   libmono-cairo1.0-cil{a} libmono-corlib1.0-cil{a} libmono-corlib2.0-cil{a} 
>   libmono-data-tds1.0-cil{a} libmono-data-tds2.0-cil{a} 
>   libmono-i18n1.0-cil{a} libmono-i18n2.0-cil{a} libmono-security1.0-cil{a} 
>   libmono-security2.0-cil{a} libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil{a} 
>   libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil{a} libmono-system-data1.0-cil{a} 
>   libmono-system-data2.0-cil{a} libmono-system-web1.0-cil{a} 
>   libmono-system-web2.0-cil{a} libmono-system1.0-cil{a} 
>   libmono-system2.0-cil{a} libmono0{a} libmono1.0-cil{a} libmono2.0-cil{a}
> 
> 
> 
>   mono-common{a} mono-gac{a} mono-jit{a} mono-runtime{a}
> 
> ...
> 
>   tomboy{a} 
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   abiword{a} 
> 0 packages upgraded, 262 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> Need to get 54.5MB/283MB of archives. After unpacking 780MB will be used.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   gamin: Conflicts: fam but 2.7.0-13.1 is to be installed.
> Resolving dependencies...
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
> 
> Keep the following packages at their current version:
> fam [Not Installed]
> 
> Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
> gnome-desktop-environment recommends fam
> gnome-screensaver recommends rss-glx
> nautilus recommends fam
> Score is -541
> 
> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] HELL NO!
> 
> AndWTF is this: $ aptitude search mono
> 
> ..
> 
> p   libmono-microsoft-build2.0-cil  - Mono Microsoft.Build
> libraries p   libmono-microsoft7.0-cil- Mono Microsoft
> libraries p   libmono-microsoft8.0-cil- Mono Microsoft libraries 
> 
> 
> Doesn't anybody else think it's bad-medicine to be including potentially
> dangerous code in the default installation?  I want to hear from devs that
> mono is free from potential liability.  Do you know for sure?  I am sure that
> there are others that are getting that queasy feeling in their stomachs about
> including mono in the default install.
> 
> It has been pointed out to me that Gnome now "needs" Tomboy.  However, Tomboy
> has its own dependencies -- mono.  Is Gnome still a good idea?  Why not Xfce4?
> 
> And for a note-keeping application what's wrong with Notecase?


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Re: dual boot install from debian 4.0r1 net install cdrom

[michael]

On 25 Mar 2008, at 17:55, donald daniel wrote:


I would like to install both Debian and windows-xp on
a single IDE hard drive using the debian 4.0r1 install
cdrom if possible. I already had such an installation
with debian 3.  I wanted to leave windows alone and
install debian 4 from scratch using the install cdrom.
At no time during the installation process could I see
where I was given the option to control fdisk myself
so I could leave windows alone. Instead, the installation
process insisted on using the whole hard drive for debian.


i've just used the default and expertgui debian net install and there  
is an option for manually controlling the partitioning process



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What's heppening to Debian? Mono?

[machiner]

All apologies, I posted this earlier to the wrong list.

Won't someone please tell me why Debian is installing mono by default with the
installation of Gnome on Lenny?

Tue Mar 25, 12:13 # aptitude install gnome
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information  
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
  gamin 
The following packages have been kept back:
  rpm{a} 
The following NEW packages will be installed:



  libmono-addins0.2-cil{a} 
  libmono-cairo1.0-cil{a} libmono-corlib1.0-cil{a} libmono-corlib2.0-cil{a} 
  libmono-data-tds1.0-cil{a} libmono-data-tds2.0-cil{a} 
  libmono-i18n1.0-cil{a} libmono-i18n2.0-cil{a} libmono-security1.0-cil{a} 
  libmono-security2.0-cil{a} libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil{a} 
  libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil{a} libmono-system-data1.0-cil{a} 
  libmono-system-data2.0-cil{a} libmono-system-web1.0-cil{a} 
  libmono-system-web2.0-cil{a} libmono-system1.0-cil{a} 
  libmono-system2.0-cil{a} libmono0{a} libmono1.0-cil{a} libmono2.0-cil{a}



  mono-common{a} mono-gac{a} mono-jit{a} mono-runtime{a}

...

  tomboy{a} 

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  abiword{a} 
0 packages upgraded, 262 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 54.5MB/283MB of archives. After unpacking 780MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gamin: Conflicts: fam but 2.7.0-13.1 is to be installed.
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
fam [Not Installed]

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
gnome-desktop-environment recommends fam
gnome-screensaver recommends rss-glx
nautilus recommends fam
Score is -541

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] HELL NO!

AndWTF is this: $ aptitude search mono

..

p   libmono-microsoft-build2.0-cil  - Mono Microsoft.Build libraries
p   libmono-microsoft7.0-cil- Mono Microsoft libraries  
p   libmono-microsoft8.0-cil- Mono Microsoft libraries 


Doesn't anybody else think it's bad-medicine to be including potentially
dangerous code in the default installation?  I want to hear from devs that mono 
is
free from potential liability.  Do you know for sure?  I am sure that there are
others that are getting that queasy feeling in their stomachs about including 
mono
in the default install.

It has been pointed out to me that Gnome now "needs" Tomboy.  However, Tomboy 
has its
own dependencies -- mono.  Is Gnome still a good idea?  Why not Xfce4?

And for a note-keeping application what's wrong with Notecase?


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Re: windows partition not usable

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 22:45:05 +, Hans-Gerhard Schrick wrote:
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> #
> proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
> /dev/hda4   /   reiserfs notail  0   1
> /dev/hda3   noneswapsw  0   0
> /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
> /dev/hda2   /mnt/winfat32  rw,noauto0 0
> Here is my /etc/fstab. I don't remember, whether I wrote the last line
> by myself. But with the program testdisk partition 2 is a FAT32 LBA.
> 
> TestDisk 6.5, Data Recovery Utility, October 2006
> Christophe GRENIER http://www.cgsecurity.org
> 
> Disk /dev/hda - 100 GB / 93 GiB - CHS 12161 255 63
> Current partition structure:
>  Partition  StartEndSize in sectors
>  1 P Compaq Diagnostics   0   1  1   381 254 636136767
>  2 * FAT32 LBA  382   0  1  6239 254 63   94108770 [ACER]
>  3 P Linux Swap6240   0  1  6435 254 633148740
>  4 P Linux 6436   0  1 12160 254 63   91972125
> 
> Perhaps you know now, how I can bring my windows partition to work.

It is not clear to me what you mean by "work". If you fix your fstab
entry like Andrei has explained then you will be able to access the
files on the Windows partition from Linux. You will not be able to run
your Windows applications under Linux directly.

> I
> really only need it for dragon naturally speaking and cdex. I haven't
> tried grip yet.

Dragon Naturally Speaking and CDex seem to be windows-only applications.
Can you still use these applications under Windows right now? When you
start the computer you should get a menu which gives you the choice to
boot either Linux or Windows. Does this work or do you need help with
getting Windows to boot again?

To actually run Windows applications under Linux, you can try installing
wine (which is packaged in Debian). Wine is an implementation of the
Windows API under Linux. How well it works changes from one application
to another. Here is what they say on their website about the two
programs that you mentioned:

http://www.google.com/search?q=dragon&domains=www.winehq.org&sitesearch=www.winehq.org
http://www.google.com/search?q=cdex&domains=www.winehq.org&sitesearch=www.winehq.org

Another option is using a VM (virtual machine, a software emulation of a
whole computer system) and installing Windows and these applications in
the VM environment. Is that what you want to do?

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dual boot install from debian 4.0r1 net install cdrom

[donald daniel]

I would like to install both Debian and windows-xp on
a single IDE hard drive using the debian 4.0r1 install
cdrom if possible. I already had such an installation
with debian 3.  I wanted to leave windows alone and
install debian 4 from scratch using the install cdrom.
At no time during the installation process could I see
where I was given the option to control fdisk myself
so I could leave windows alone. Instead, the installation
process insisted on using the whole hard drive for debian.
Presumably at some point in the install some magic key
sequence likeF would have given me
control of fdisk, but the instructions gave no hint as
to how to do this, so I wiped out my windows. Now I
have paid $300 for the Oxford English Dictionary.
The current version does not run under wine, even though
earlier versions did. So I would like to re-install windows
and debian in a dual boot.  Must I install from a boot
floppy to do this?





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Re: Upgrade from Sarge to Etch Satisfactorily Completed

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 04:19:15AM +0100, s. keeling wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:33 -0400 (EDT)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> Even with computers with BIOS too old to boot from CD, Debian CDs
> provide sbm (smart boot manager) which can boot it from a floppy,
> which then boots a CD.  Mount a Debian CD and "cd /cdrom/install"

Well, SBM never worked on my 486 IBM.  All my newer boxes can boot from
CD directly.

Doug.


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Re: Sound problem in L35 Toshiba Satellite

[Tom Goulet]

On 3/24/08, Rodrigo Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> lspci detects an audio card but I am not sure it is the right one and it
> is not under multimedia but under Audio.

I looked up the Toshiba Satellite L35, and apparently it has two sound
cards.  Very weird.

> I have compile from the sources alsa-driver, libs and utils and is not
> It has a pci sound card integrated in the motherboard. I think it is a
> realtek 861.

But have you compiled your own kernel?

I have found some instructions that might help, in the mean time I
plan to research it more.

Can you paste the output of lsmod into your next message to this list, please?

In the mean time, try running:
| modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
And then testing your sound.

Tom


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Re: Help me setup AntiSpam filter

[Bogdan Marian]

s. keeling wrote:

Bogdan Marian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  
 I need your advice people! I need to setup an AntiSpam filter on an 
 older version of Postfix, on Debian Sarge. I would go to Etch, but i 
 can't risk it for the moment, as the server I'm referring to is very 
 important and can't be brought down right now by my tests ( the machine 
 acts as a: router, webserver, mail server and dns server, so you get my 
 point...).
 Any suggestions, and links, and opinions will be greatly appreciated! 
 Please guide me to an AntiSpam program!



Scheduled outages with reasons, approved by supervisor (who's got
approval from his supervisor, ...).

Or they cough up the bucks to buy a HA cluster where you can fail one
side, do it to it, bring it back up, fail the other side, do it to it,
...  That stuff gets expensive real quick.

My answer is, move SMTP off that box.  Buy yourself an ancient PIV and
point other boxes at SMTP running there.  Bite the bullet, man.  This
can be done for under $200 + your time.

For anti-spam, it can also do Spamassassin and Clamav.  Toss in Samba
and IMAP, to your tastes.

You guys are fools for running all your eggs in that one basket.  I
paid $160.00 for my latest PIV, and even dnetc (distributed.net) has
trouble bringing it to its knees.  It'd easily handle anything SMTP
could throw at it.


  



Hey,

Thank you for your advice everyone! I think i'll stick to spamassasin.

BR,

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Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user

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> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  said:
> 
> [Presidential choice]
> 
>> Gus Hall forever
> 
> Isn't he just a little bit cold?  Like, since 2000?

Death is only the beginning.  Besides, there's always Angela Davis...

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Re: etch nvidia xorg nvidia-glx-legacy X crashes--Solved

[Hugh Lawson]

Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hugh Lawson wrote:
> 
> > Since posting, I've done some more work.
> > nvidia-glx-legacy has been purged; now I have nvidia-glx.

Wacko wrote:

> You are mixing the two methods of installing the the nvidia module.
> 1. Use the script from the nvidia site and nothing else.
> 2. Install the nvidia module for your kernel from the repository,
> which will also require the nvidia-glx package that matches the module
> version.
> 
> Either purge the nvidia-glx package and reinstall the NVIDIA script or
> remove the NVIDIA script and then install the modules from the
> repository.

Hugh again:

Much thanks Wacko; you provided the absolutely essential
information. 

I had deb packages left on my system from an earlier effort to do #2
above.  I didn't understand that this remaining stuff was absolutely
incompatible with the nvidia-provided script.

So I shifted to choice #1 above, purged all the nvidia* deb packages,
and ran this nvidia-provided script:

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run

Since then I have rebooted; glxgears, glxinfo, and compiz  work as expected.

Thank you!

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Re: Merging all 30+ Debian CD's onto hard drive

[Daniel Burrows]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 02:55:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> You can try to put
> 
> APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";
> 
> into a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/. This gets rid of the warning
> message for CDrom sources, but I am not sure if it will work for your
> configuration: I assume that you use a "file" declaration in your
> sources.list to refer to your merged archive on the hard disk. If this
> is not covered by the TrustCDROM directive (I never tried) then you may
> have to go through the procedure described in the ARCHIVE CONFIGURATION
> section of "man apt-secure".

  TrustCDROM only affects cdrom:/ URLs.  file:/ URLs will still be
untrusted by default.

  Daniel


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Re: DELL Inspiron 530N

[Tom Goulet]

On 3/24/08, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 3/22/08, DebianMike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >> I have just received a Dell Inspiron 530N pre-installed with Ubuntu. I
> >> am now trying to figure out how to install debian on it.

> The system will "boot" from the CD-Drive but when the kernel takes over
> it doesn't have the driver for this CD-Drive. I have used knoppix, etch
> liveCD and network install cds. I then downloaded the first testing cd
> and the kernel found the cd player. But then it couldn't find the
> network card.

Your system has a SATA CD-ROM drive, according to:
| http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/EN/index.htm

I don't know why your Debian Etch network install CD does not detect
your CD-ROM drive.  Is it an older version?

If it is, I recommend downloading a Debian Etch full install CD and
trying that.  Don't worry about the network card for now, I'm sure you
can get it working.

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PHP5.2.5 with option --with-java

[Rodrigo Tavares]

Hello,

I had to download the source php-5.2.5 and source
php-java-bridge. I had installed php-java-bridge.

But the option --with-java isn't in configure.

Example :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/php-5.2.5# ./configure --help | grep java
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/php-5.2.5#

And now ? 
Do I have to wait a new release source php ?

Best regards,

Rodrigo Faria 




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integrating Java and PHP

[Rodrigo Tavares]

Hello,

I`d like to know, if somebody did the integration and
PHP5 and Java with success.

http://www.php.net/java

bye

Rodrigo Faria




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Re: problems with cups: moving back to 1.1.23

[Mumia W..]

On 03/25/2008 05:47 AM, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 10:36 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: 

Hi!

I am running etch with cups for printing in a Lexmark e210 printer.
Since the moving from sarge to etch, my printing system is not working
correctly. Sometimes pages are skipped, or the whole system hangs badly
forcing me to do a hard reboot. I googled looking for a fix, but without
success. When I was running sarge, everything with printing worked like
a charm. So, I would like to move back to the version of cups in sarge.
Is it possible? how can I do this?

Thanks in advance

Marcelo


Dear debianners,

I really need help with my question above, i.e, I want to give the
moving from cups 1.2.7 (in etch) to cups 1.1.23 (in sarge) a try. Any
tip will be very welcome.

With the best regards,

Marcelo



You might be able to add Sarge to your /etc/apt/sources.list, update, 
purge cups 1.2.7 and install cups 1.1.23. However, downgrading isn't 
officially supported, and it doesn't often work very well.


Another possibility would be to recompile cups 1.1.23 from the source 
for Etch. As you probably know, the source is still in the Sarge 
repositories.


Good luck.


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Re: exim/postfix comparisons

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:13:19PM +0100, Martin Marcher wrote:
> 
> PS: if there's a compelling reason to go in the sendmail direction (or
> any other mta) i'm willing to do that, but I refuse qmail because of
> licensing issues
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Re: etch nvidia xorg nvidia-glx-legacy X crashes

[Wackojacko]

Hugh Lawson wrote:


Since posting, I've done some more work.

nvidia-glx-legacy has been purged; now I have nvidia-glx.


AFAIK you don't need nvidia-glx if you are using the script from the 
nvidia site.  nvidia-glx is for the module in the repository.


Nevertheless, /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx causes the same problem, when
used along with the nvidia proprietary installer. I do not understand
this technically, only empirically from trial-and-error. Somehow,
the /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx init script fiddles around with library
files and links, that are needed by the "nvidia" module, as it is
installed by:

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run 


Hence, /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx on the next boot changes things in a way
that won't let X start.  To fix this, I did once more:

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run

and then:

cd /etc/init.d/
sudo mv nvidia-glx XXnvidia-glx

That paralyzes the /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx script and prevents it from
messing up the links and files needed by the "nvidia" module as
installed by NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run.

I don't understand what the /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx script is supposed
to accomplished, and how I can get along without it.



You are mixing the two methods of installing the the nvidia module.
1. Use the script from the nvidia site and nothing else.
2. Install the nvidia module for your kernel from the repository, which 
will also require the nvidia-glx package that matches the module version.


Either purge the nvidia-glx package and reinstall the NVIDIA script or 
remove the NVIDIA script and then install the modules from the repository.


HTH

Wackojacko

NB if you run custom built kernel you can build the nvidia module using 
module-assistant


As root

#aptitude install module-assistant
#m-a prepare
#m-a a-i nvidia
#aptitude install nvidia-glx

restart x


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Re: problems with cups: moving back to 1.1.23

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 10:36 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: 
> Hi!
> 
> I am running etch with cups for printing in a Lexmark e210 printer.
> Since the moving from sarge to etch, my printing system is not working
> correctly. Sometimes pages are skipped, or the whole system hangs badly
> forcing me to do a hard reboot. I googled looking for a fix, but without
> success. When I was running sarge, everything with printing worked like
> a charm. So, I would like to move back to the version of cups in sarge.
> Is it possible? how can I do this?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Marcelo

Dear debianners,

I really need help with my question above, i.e, I want to give the
moving from cups 1.2.7 (in etch) to cups 1.1.23 (in sarge) a try. Any
tip will be very welcome.

With the best regards,

Marcelo

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Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user

[Cybe R. Wizard]

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  said:

[Presidential choice]

> Gus Hall forever

Isn't he just a little bit cold?  Like, since 2000?

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Re: IBM DB2 V9.5 32 bits failed to allocate share memory

[cypherstrong]

Ok with the same kernel option set in a debian kernel like this :

apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r`
cp -r linux-`uname -r` linux-`echo $REDHAT_VERSION`
ln -s linux-`echo $REDHAT_VERSION` linux
cd linux
cp ~/config-`echo $REDHAT_VERSION` .config
echo "" | make oldconfig
make -kpkg --initrd kernel_image

So nothing change

I have disabled completly selinux (it was in alert mode only), nothing
change

See anything else ?

Strong Cypher a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for answer
>
> So here all collection I can do to find the problem :
>
> The redhat is a Redhat Enterprise 5 with 2.6.18-53.el5 kernel version
> Here the firmware part :
> #
> # Firmware Drivers
> #
> CONFIG_EDD=m
> CONFIG_EFI_VARS=y
> CONFIG_DELL_RBU=m
> CONFIG_DCDBAS=m
> # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
> CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
> # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
> CONFIG_PAGE_OFFSET=0xC000
> CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
> CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y
> CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y
> # CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM_MANUAL is not set
> # CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_MANUAL is not set
> CONFIG_FLATMEM=y
> CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y
> # CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_STATIC is not set
> CONFIG_SPLIT_PTLOCK_CPUS=4096
> CONFIG_RESOURCES_64BIT=y
> CONFIG_HIGHPTE=y
> # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
> CONFIG_MTRR=y
> CONFIG_EFI=y
> # CONFIG_IRQBALANCE is not set
> CONFIG_BOOT_IOREMAP=y
> CONFIG_REGPARM=y
> # CONFIG_SECCOMP is not set
> # CONFIG_VGA_NOPROBE is not set
> # CONFIG_HZ_100 is not set
> # CONFIG_HZ_250 is not set
> CONFIG_HZ_1000=y
> CONFIG_HZ=1000
> CONFIG_KEXEC=y
> CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP=y
> CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=y
> CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN=0x40
> CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
> # CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO is not set
> CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_MEMORY_HOTPLUG=y
>
> The 64 bits resources appear, but I don't think it's the problem
>
> So now the debian: It's a debian etch with 2.6.18-6-686 kernel
> Here the firmware part :
> #
> # Firmware Drivers
> #
> CONFIG_EDD=m
> CONFIG_EFI_VARS=m
> CONFIG_DELL_RBU=m
> CONFIG_DCDBAS=m
> # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
> CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
> # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
> CONFIG_PAGE_OFFSET=0xC000
> CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
> CONFIG_ARCH_FLATMEM_ENABLE=y
> CONFIG_ARCH_SPARSEMEM_ENABLE=y
> CONFIG_ARCH_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y
> CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y
> CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y
> # CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM_MANUAL is not set
> # CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_MANUAL is not set
> CONFIG_FLATMEM=y
> CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y
> CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_STATIC=y
> CONFIG_SPLIT_PTLOCK_CPUS=4
> # CONFIG_RESOURCES_64BIT is not set
> # CONFIG_HIGHPTE is not set
> # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
> CONFIG_MTRR=y
> CONFIG_EFI=y
> CONFIG_IRQBALANCE=y
> CONFIG_BOOT_IOREMAP=y
> CONFIG_REGPARM=y
> # CONFIG_SECCOMP is not set
> # CONFIG_HZ_100 is not set
> CONFIG_HZ_250=y
> # CONFIG_HZ_1000 is not set
> CONFIG_HZ=250
> CONFIG_KEXEC=y
> # CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP is not set
> CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START=0x10
> CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
> CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO=y
> CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_MEMORY_HOTPLUG=y
>
> Yeah there is some difference ... perhaps I could try to copy the kernel
> config of redhat on a debian with the same version of kernel and see ... I
> will try that
>
> So here the DB2 log
>
> 2008-03-21-15.56.01.630547+060 E9166G1188 LEVEL: Event
> PID : 32282TID  : 2986575552  PROC : db2star2
> INSTANCE: db2inst1 NODE : 000
> FUNCTION: DB2 UDB, base sys utilities, DB2StartMain, probe:911
> MESSAGE : ADM7513W  Database manager has started.
> START   : DB2 DBM
> DATA #1 : Build Level, 128 bytes
> Instance "db2inst1" uses "32" bits and DB2 code release "SQL09050"
> with level identifier "03010107".
> Informational tokens are "DB2 v9.5.0.0", "s071001", "LINUXIA3295", Fix Pack
> "0".
> DATA #2 : System Info, 436 bytes
> System: Linux test 6 2 i686
> CPU: total:2 online:2 Cores per socket:1 Threading degree per core:2
> Physical Memory(MB): total:2029 free:702
> Virtual  Memory(MB): total:6125 free:4798
> Swap Memory(MB): total:4096 free:4096
> Kernel   Params: msgMaxMessageSize:65535 msgMsgMap:65536 msgMaxQueueIDs:1024
>  msgNumberOfHeaders:65536 msgMaxQueueSize:65536
>  msgMaxSegmentSize:16 shmMax:268435456 shmMin:1 shmIDs:4096
>  shmSegments:4096 semMap:32000 semIDs:1024 semNum:32000
>  semUndo:32000 semNumPerID:250 semOps:32 semUndoSize:20
>  semMaxVal:32767 semAdjustOnExit:32767
>
> 2008-03-21-15.56.03.475024+060 I10355G477 LEVEL: Event
> PID : 32295TID  : 2977950624  PROC : db2sysc
> INSTANCE: db2inst1 NODE : 000
> APPHDL  : 0-7  APPID: *LOCAL.db2inst1.080321145603
> AUTHID  : DB2INST1
> EDUID   : 18   EDUNAME: db2agent (instance)
> FUNCTION: DB2 UDB, config/install, sqlfLogUpdateCfgParam, probe:20
> CHANGE  : CFG DB TOOLSDB : "Database_memory" From: "20"   To:
> "20416" 
>
> 2008-03-21-15.56.47.131581+060 E10833G462 LEVEL: Event
> PID : 32295TID  : 2967464864  PROC : db2sysc
> INSTANCE: db2inst1 NODE : 000 

Re: etch nvidia xorg nvidia-glx-legacy X crashes

[Hugh Lawson]

Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As far as I know you are *not* supposed to have both, so you should 
> purge the package nvidia-glx-legacy. You might want to restore that file 
> first, otherwise dpkg will complain about a missing file.

Thanks Andrei,

I did dpkg --purge nvidia-glx-legacy, and put nvidia-glx in its place.

Unfortunately, the /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx script, upon reboot, moves
or deletes files needed by the nvidia module as installed by:

 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run

And X won't start.

Is nvidia-glx actually needed with the nvidia module installed by

 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run

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Re: etch nvidia xorg nvidia-glx-legacy X crashes

[Hugh Lawson]

"Owen Townend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Hugh wrote:
> > The init file /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx-legacy was causing the X crashes,
> > by fiddling with needed links and file locations in the libraries.  I
> > fixed this by the following:

Owen wrote:

>   Are you using the legacy
> drivers or are they simply being installed alongside and causing issues?
> 
>   The nvidia-glx-legacy isn't for the Geforce4 line:

[ snip ]

> This is the 'legacy' driver for older chipsets. Unless your chipset is
> explicitly listed in the above paragraph, please use the nvidia-glx driver,
> which is much more up to date.

Thanks Owen.

Since posting, I've done some more work.

nvidia-glx-legacy has been purged; now I have nvidia-glx.

Nevertheless, /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx causes the same problem, when
used along with the nvidia proprietary installer. I do not understand
this technically, only empirically from trial-and-error. Somehow,
the /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx init script fiddles around with library
files and links, that are needed by the "nvidia" module, as it is
installed by:

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run 

Hence, /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx on the next boot changes things in a way
that won't let X start.  To fix this, I did once more:

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run

and then:

cd /etc/init.d/
sudo mv nvidia-glx XXnvidia-glx

That paralyzes the /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx script and prevents it from
messing up the links and files needed by the "nvidia" module as
installed by NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run.

I don't understand what the /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx script is supposed
to accomplished, and how I can get along without it.

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wireframe tool?

[e s]

anyone know a wireframe tool for prototyping interfaces, or 
applications? Any other you use? (other than WireFrame on sourceforge)

thanks,
-e


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Re: Errant ld-linux.so.2

[Joost Witteveen]

On 25/03/2008, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every now and then, I have an apparently memory-leaking ld-linux.so.2
>  process running.  When I kill it, nothing else seems adversely
>  affected.  Is there some way I can identify what's spawned it?

Normally you would be able to see what process spawned what using
  ps axf

(f:   ASCII-art process hierarchy (forest))
But I suppose in your case you may not see much interesting output.
In that case, I'd write a short shell script that does ps ax>file
continually, to try and see when the process starts to appear.


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Re: IBM DB2 V9.5 32 bits failed to allocate share memory

[Strong Cypher]

Hi,

Thanks for answer

So here all collection I can do to find the problem :

The redhat is a Redhat Enterprise 5 with 2.6.18-53.el5 kernel version
Here the firmware part :
#
# Firmware Drivers
#
CONFIG_EDD=m
CONFIG_EFI_VARS=y
CONFIG_DELL_RBU=m
CONFIG_DCDBAS=m
# CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
CONFIG_PAGE_OFFSET=0xC000
CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y
CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y
# CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM_MANUAL is not set
# CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_MANUAL is not set
CONFIG_FLATMEM=y
CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y
# CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_STATIC is not set
CONFIG_SPLIT_PTLOCK_CPUS=4096
CONFIG_RESOURCES_64BIT=y
CONFIG_HIGHPTE=y
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_EFI=y
# CONFIG_IRQBALANCE is not set
CONFIG_BOOT_IOREMAP=y
CONFIG_REGPARM=y
# CONFIG_SECCOMP is not set
# CONFIG_VGA_NOPROBE is not set
# CONFIG_HZ_100 is not set
# CONFIG_HZ_250 is not set
CONFIG_HZ_1000=y
CONFIG_HZ=1000
CONFIG_KEXEC=y
CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP=y
CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=y
CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN=0x40
CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
# CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_MEMORY_HOTPLUG=y

The 64 bits resources appear, but I don't think it's the problem

So now the debian: It's a debian etch with 2.6.18-6-686 kernel
Here the firmware part :
#
# Firmware Drivers
#
CONFIG_EDD=m
CONFIG_EFI_VARS=m
CONFIG_DELL_RBU=m
CONFIG_DCDBAS=m
# CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
CONFIG_PAGE_OFFSET=0xC000
CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_ARCH_FLATMEM_ENABLE=y
CONFIG_ARCH_SPARSEMEM_ENABLE=y
CONFIG_ARCH_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y
CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y
CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y
# CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM_MANUAL is not set
# CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_MANUAL is not set
CONFIG_FLATMEM=y
CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y
CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_STATIC=y
CONFIG_SPLIT_PTLOCK_CPUS=4
# CONFIG_RESOURCES_64BIT is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHPTE is not set
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_EFI=y
CONFIG_IRQBALANCE=y
CONFIG_BOOT_IOREMAP=y
CONFIG_REGPARM=y
# CONFIG_SECCOMP is not set
# CONFIG_HZ_100 is not set
CONFIG_HZ_250=y
# CONFIG_HZ_1000 is not set
CONFIG_HZ=250
CONFIG_KEXEC=y
# CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP is not set
CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START=0x10
CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO=y
CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_MEMORY_HOTPLUG=y

Yeah there is some difference ... perhaps I could try to copy the kernel
config of redhat on a debian with the same version of kernel and see ... I
will try that

So here the DB2 log

2008-03-21-15.56.01.630547+060 E9166G1188 LEVEL: Event
PID : 32282TID  : 2986575552  PROC : db2star2
INSTANCE: db2inst1 NODE : 000
FUNCTION: DB2 UDB, base sys utilities, DB2StartMain, probe:911
MESSAGE : ADM7513W  Database manager has started.
START   : DB2 DBM
DATA #1 : Build Level, 128 bytes
Instance "db2inst1" uses "32" bits and DB2 code release "SQL09050"
with level identifier "03010107".
Informational tokens are "DB2 v9.5.0.0", "s071001", "LINUXIA3295", Fix Pack
"0".
DATA #2 : System Info, 436 bytes
System: Linux test 6 2 i686
CPU: total:2 online:2 Cores per socket:1 Threading degree per core:2
Physical Memory(MB): total:2029 free:702
Virtual  Memory(MB): total:6125 free:4798
Swap Memory(MB): total:4096 free:4096
Kernel   Params: msgMaxMessageSize:65535 msgMsgMap:65536 msgMaxQueueIDs:1024
 msgNumberOfHeaders:65536 msgMaxQueueSize:65536
 msgMaxSegmentSize:16 shmMax:268435456 shmMin:1 shmIDs:4096
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 semUndo:32000 semNumPerID:250 semOps:32 semUndoSize:20
 semMaxVal:32767 semAdjustOnExit:32767

2008-03-21-15.56.03.475024+060 I10355G477 LEVEL: Event
PID : 32295TID  : 2977950624  PROC : db2sysc
INSTANCE: db2inst1 NODE : 000
APPHDL  : 0-7  APPID: *LOCAL.db2inst1.080321145603
AUTHID  : DB2INST1
EDUID   : 18   EDUNAME: db2agent (instance)
FUNCTION: DB2 UDB, config/install, sqlfLogUpdateCfgParam, probe:20
CHANGE  : CFG DB TOOLSDB : "Database_memory" From: "20"   To:
"20416" 

2008-03-21-15.56.47.131581+060 E10833G462 LEVEL: Event
PID : 32295TID  : 2967464864  PROC : db2sysc
INSTANCE: db2inst1 NODE : 000 DB   : TOOLSDB
APPHDL  : 0-10 APPID: *LOCAL.DB2.080321145647
AUTHID  : DB2INST1
EDUID   : 41   EDUNAME: db2stmm (TOOLSDB)
FUNCTION: DB2 UDB, Self tuning memory manager, stmmLog, probe:1008
DATA #1 : 
Starting STMM log from file number 0

2008-03-21-15.56.47.132190+060 E11296G528 LEVEL: Event
PID : 32295TID  : 2967464864  PROC : db2sysc
INSTANCE: db2inst1 NODE : 000 DB   : TOOLSDB
APPHDL  : 0-10 APPID: *LOCAL.DB2.080321145647
AUTHID  : DB2INST1
EDUID   : 41   EDUNAME: db2stmm (TOOLSDB)
FUNCTION: DB2 UDB, Self tuning memory manager, stmmLogGetFileStats,
probe:565
DATA #1 : 
New STMM log file (/home/db2ins

Re: Complaint from Xfce[GNOME] and Debian Reference

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:30:45PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> dt> I don't know what this line
> [Desktops.OpenDoc  http://carnot.yi.org/] is for.
> 
> The message "signature".  OK, I've demarcated 
> it better.
> 
> Thanks,... Peter E.
> 
> 
> Epilogue or Signature
> Desktops.OpenDoc  http://carnot.yi.org/

Please use the standard sig delimiter "dash dash space".

Regards,
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Re: Tunnel iceweasel?

[Joost Witteveen]

On 24/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:46:56AM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote:
>  > On 23/03/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm trying to tunnel an iceweasel instance via ssh from one
>  > > of my boxes at my house to remember the name of an add-on i
>  > > installed.
>  > >
>  > > The problem is that i create a ssh session (ssh -XC
>  > > ssh.psychotik.info), login and run iceweasel at the bash
>  > > prompt, which takes forever, but then finally *opens a local
>  > > iceweasel!!!*
>  >
>  > I suppose that iceweasel -P uniqueprofilename would do what you want?
>  >
>  > Also, it's *much* faster use vnc (tunnel through ssh): on the remote
>  > host, start: vnc4server on your localhost, start (and login to) ssh -L
>  > 5900:server:5901 server
>  >
>  > and then on the localhost (different window) vncviewer localhost:5900
>  >
>  > The 5901 portnumer is assuming the vncserver opens a X11 screen on :1.
>  > When I start epiphany diretly over X11, it takes about 30 min to show
>  > a page; when I do it using VNC as above, it takes seconds.
>
>
> I run iceweasel over ssh all the time, however, I don't have it
>  installed locally so there's no local version to run.  It may take a few
>  seconds to give the initial window, but then it displays as fast as the
>  box can swap.  The network is 100 MB/s ethernet, the box I'm sitting at
>  is a P-II with 64 MB ram, the box I'm sshing into to run iceweasel is an
>  AMD Athlon64 with 1 GB ram.  It doesn't even take 30 minutes to show a
>  page when I ssh from my 486 with 32 MB ram so something is wrong there.
>
>  Why would VNC be faster if both are encrypted?
>

No, over a 100Mb/s ethernet, running iceweasel over VNC probably
wouldn't be much faster than directly over ssh (and running over an
ssh-tunneled VNC connection would of course be slower than straigt
VNC).

But the OP complained iceweasel was very slow. So I suppose he didn't
run it over a direct 100Mb/s connection, but over something slower,
probably with larger ping times, ping times of 10-30 ms are enough to
make it slow, and with slow, I mean that it can take over 20 min for
iceweasel to even start showing the home page.
I notice that when that happens, starting iceweasel on the remote site
on a VNC X server an watching the output via a VNC viewer is a lot
faster. And a lot here means just a couple of seconds to show the home
page, instead of 20 min.
As the OP reported using ssh, I assumed he didn't want to connect
unencrypted (somethign VNC as far as I know does), so I suggested
using an ssh tunnel.


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Re: Upgrading Sarge to Etch Pining apache 1.3 and php4

[Joost Witteveen]

On 24/03/2008, Siju George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I have a Few Server running Apache 1.3 and PHP 4
>  Is it enough that I put in /etc/apt/preferences
>
>  Package: apache
>  Pin: version 1.3.*
>
>  Package: php4
>  Pin: version 4.*
>
>  and edit sarge from mt /etc/apt/source.list to put etch instead there after 
> do
>
>  apt-get update
>  and
>  apt-get dist-upgrade

I'm not sure what your question is (didn't see that email) but if you
just want to upgrade to etch and stay with apache 1.3 & php 4, then
you can just go ahead and upgrade to etch without any pinning of
apache/php versions.
The apache 2.2 and php 5 packages in etch are called "apache2" and
"php5" and they will not automatically replace your "apache" (1.3) and
"php4" packages.

>  Anything else I need to keep in mind during the upgrade?

probably depends on what you are doing with it, but I don't think
anything will go wrong that you cannot fix with ssh.


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Re: Thank you for keeping stable just the way it is!

[Anthony Campbell]

On 25 Mar 2008, Owen Townend wrote:
>[snip]
> 
>  >
>  >  You guys know about reportbug --kudos right? That is a cool way
>  to thank
>  No.  Jeez, Debian just keeps on getting deeper and deeper!  Thanks.
>  man reportbug.
>  Shouldn't somebody report this to the coreutils maintainer so they
>  can
>  implemement it across the board there?  Depending on implementation,
>  it could call reportbug or rpm or emerge ...
>  Every app strives to evolve to the level of sending mail, yes?
>  We could give the spammers a run for their money.
>  blah && blah --kudos
> 
>seconded, (or thirded)
>--kudos sounds good, didn't know about it
>  Though for totally non-function related easter eggs my favourite is
>still `apt-get moo`
>  (and/or the `aptitude [-v] ... moo` chain)
>cheers,
>Owen.

Been using Debian for years but I never knew about this. I'll certainly
make use of it in the future.

Anthony

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Complaint from Xfce[GNOME] and Debian Reference

[peasthope]

Douglas & others,

dt> Does it[/etc/hosts] work?

Yes.  No problems evident.

dt> Read the debian-reference.

Yes, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html
and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReference/Network
explain things not in "man hosts".  

In particular, I was on the wrong track about 
the complaint from Xfce[GNOME].  resolvconf 
doesn't settle it.  In addition to the first line 
"127.0.0.1 ..." I need 
"127.0.1.1 joule.petershouse.invalid joule".
Actually the html document doesn't mention the 
 but the wiki does.  So the wiki 
document is the best authority here.

dt> Do you have any firewall doing network address translation?  If you want
fire-and-forget just use ipmasq, if you want to really understand it use
shorewall after reading shorewall-doc.

ipmasq has been running on joule for a few years 
and even on the 486 predecessor.  shorewall will 
run first on one of two almost identical 
machines.  If I make a real snarl on the shorewall 
machine, the sister machine can substitute until 
the problem is solved.

dt> What about supplying DNS services to your network?  The easiest is to
install dnsmasq.

The subordinate systems refer to upstream dns 
servers with static addresses.  dnsmasq works 
on another linux router which I just gave to 
a brother.

dt> I don't know what this line
[Desktops.OpenDoc  http://carnot.yi.org/] is for.

The message "signature".  OK, I've demarcated 
it better.

Thanks,... Peter E.


Epilogue or Signature
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Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user

[Ron Johnson]

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On 03/24/08 21:32, s. keeling wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  Vikki, s. keeling, Ron,
>>
>>  Thanks for the comments.
>>
>>  The MUA is in Oberon and I don't want to 
>>  abandon it.
> 
> fwiw, I (as Ron alluded) also use a less than conformant toolset.  I
> read the mailinglist in a mail to news gateway, in an NNTP
> newsreader (the eeii! slrn; you're such a twit at
> times, Ron).  Apparently, it isn't doing things to Ron's satisfaction,
> but I'm still working on it.  Perhaps Oberon can be tweaked
> similarly?

Actually, much as I hate to admit it, slrn keeps Message-ids perfectly.

>>  I read the messages from the Web based archive 
>>  so there is no question of replying directly 
>>  to an emessage.  When there is time, I can look 
>>  for a way to incorporate the message id into 
>>  my reply.
> 
> I second the gmane suggestion made by others.
> 
> btw, the Message-Id: header may be utterly wrong (testing), caveat
> emptor.
> 
> Ron, you for Obama or Billary?

Gus Hall forever

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Re: Adding a ttyS

[NN_il_Confusionario]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 02:11:35PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
> In Etch, /dev is managed by udev which wants to create device nodes on 
> the fly.

this is true for most default installs of etch, but it is not necessary.

When the initrd for the kernel id build with yaird (or one uses a custom
kernel without an initrd), then udev need not be installed (or it might
be still be installed but it need not be started at boot, ot it might
start and be configured in udev.conf to manage a directory different
from /dev). None of my installed machines uses udev to manage /dev/ (and
only very few of them have udev installed)

For the original /dev/ttyS* problem, however, it might be that the
kernel needs a boot parameter (or a parameter for the 8250 module, if a
custom kernel with 8250 as module is used) to be able to see more than 4
ttyS

 grep UARTS /boot/config-`uname -r`
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS=4
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=4

Even a kernel recompile might be needed if the maximum number of kernel
configured uarts is too low, and it might be that the etch defaule
kernel is not suitable.

One can ckeck with 

 grep ttyS /var/log/dmesg

how many ttyS are recognized buy the kernel at boot (or with "dmesg|grep
ttyS" after the modprobe of the 8250 module)

In this moment I do not recall the exact syntax for the parametr, but
a google search about "nr_uarts" might help:

   modinfo 8250|grep -i uarts
parm:   nr_uarts:Maximum number of UARTs supported. (1-4) (uint)

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Re: etch nvidia xorg nvidia-glx-legacy X crashes

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 08:43:26PM -0400, Hugh Lawson wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to install the nvidia driver.  I managed to get it
> working, but my solution is not entirely satisfactory, because it's
> vulnerable to an update of the nvidia-glx-legacy package.  I'll trace
> through the problem, and perhaps somebody can point to a better way.
> 
> Debian etch
> nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x] (rev a1)
> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run ("the installer")
> nvidia-glx-legacy
 
As far as I know you are *not* supposed to have both, so you should 
purge the package nvidia-glx-legacy. You might want to restore that file 
first, otherwise dpkg will complain about a missing file.

Regards,
Andrei
P.S. The newer nvidia-glx is also a solution, but make sure you remove 
all traces of the other driver as well.
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Re: windows partition not usable

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:45:05PM +, Hans-Gerhard Schrick wrote:
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> #
> proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
> /dev/hda4   /   reiserfs notail  0   1
> /dev/hda3   noneswapsw  0   0
> /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
> /dev/hda2   /mnt/winfat32  rw,noauto0 0
-^^^
As far as I know this has to be 'vfat'

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Re: Upgrade from Sarge to Etch didn't upgrade the kernel and broke software RAID

[Andrei Popescu]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:47:09AM +0530, Siju George wrote:
 
> Is upgrade painful always like this?

Did you read the release notes?  
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes

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Re: Help me setup AntiSpam filter

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 09:45:01PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 09:27:29PM +0200, Bogdan Marian wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I need your advice people! I need to setup an AntiSpam filter on an older 
> > version of Postfix, on Debian Sarge. I would go to Etch, but i can't risk 
> > it for the moment, as the server I'm referring to is very important and 
> > can't be brought down right now by my tests ( the machine acts as a: 
> > router, webserver, mail server and dns server, so you get my point...).
> > Any suggestions, and links, and opinions will be greatly appreciated! 
> > Please guide me to an AntiSpam program!
> 
> I think you want SpamAssassin, but do plan an upgrade to etch as soon as 
> possible.  Security support for Sarge has ended!

Oh, forgot to mention you could also run greylisting (postgrey) on that 
server.

Regards,
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