Re: activer auctex sous xemacs
On 17 Jan 2009, at 00:06, Frédéric Baldit wrote: Bonjour, je n'arrive pas à activer le mode auctex sous xemacs. Je croyais qu'il était activé automatiquement lorsqu'un fichier .tex est ouvert. En fait xemacs se met bien en mode latex (latex-mode dans la ligne d'en bas) mais je pensais avoir accés à plus de choses avec auctex (insertion automatique d'environements, complétion automatique,...) Bref je suis un peu perdu, si quelqu'un peut me renseigner, merci d'avance. F.B. Je n'utilise pas Xemacs mais il est sensé être fourni avec auctex inclu par défaut. Que se passe-t-il si tu tapes C-c C-e depuis un buffer en latex-mode? -- Arnaud -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: activer auctex sous xemacs
Frédéric Baldit a écrit, samedi 17 janvier 2009, à 01:06 : Bonjour, bonjour, je n'arrive pas à activer le mode auctex sous xemacs. Je croyais qu'il était activé automatiquement lorsqu'un fichier .tex est ouvert. En fait xemacs se met bien en mode latex (latex-mode dans la ligne d'en bas) mais je pensais avoir accés à plus de choses avec auctex (insertion Quand AUCTeX est activé, c'est le LaTeX-mode. Que dit M-x apropos RET latex-mode RET ? Chez moi©, mais avec Emacs, c'est , | LaTeX-mode | Command: Major mode in AUCTeX for editing LaTeX files. | LaTeX-mode-hook [...] | latex-mode | Command: Major mode in AUCTeX for editing LaTeX files. | Plist: tex-saved autoload ` où l'on voit que le latex-mode standard est remplacé par celui d'AUCTeX (cf. /etc/emacs21/site-start.d/50auctex.el). Pour Xemacs, je ne sais pas... automatique d'environements, complétion automatique,...) Bref je suis un peu perdu, si quelqu'un peut me renseigner, merci d'avance. Voir peut-être du côté de news:fr.comp.applications.emacs ? -- Jacques L'helgoualc'h -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: activer auctex sous xemacs
Bonjour,
pour répondre à la question: que ce passe-t-il lorsque je tape C-c
C-e? lorsque je suis en latex-mode, il se passe, si je suis aprés un
begin{document}, qu'il insère un \end{{document}, idem pour tout les
autres environnements. Si je ne suis pas aprés un \begin il me jette.
Par contre C-c C-s (pour insérer un titre, je crois) ne marche pas. Je
crois aussi qu'il y a une indentation automatique dans ce mode, et je ne
la vois pas. Je croyais aussi qu'Auctex rajoutais un menu dans la barre
des menus, et il n' a rien. En revanche, quand je lance emacs (pas
xemacs) il semble que auctex est bien actif. Enfin j'ai lu quelque part
que le mode auctex de xemacs est fourni maintenant dans xemacs lui-même,
mais qu'il est un peu moins performant que le paquet qu'on peut
récupérer sur le site de xemacs. Dans tout ca je suis un peu (ou
beaucoup) perdu...
Merci pour toute aide.
F.B.
PS: je me suis réinscrit sur la liste debian-user-french mais je croyais
que j'allais recevoir un avis d'inscription sur mon adresse
electronique, et que je communiquerai via email avec la liste. Or je
n'ai rien recu dans ma boite aux lettres, c'est en continuant ma
recherche sur google ce matin que je vois qu'une personne m'a répondu.
Là ausssi je suis perplexe...
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Re: Re: activer auctex sous xemacs
Bonjour, pour répondre à Jacques L'helgouach, voici le résultat de la commande qu'il m'indique: japanese-latex-mode Command: (not documented) latex-mode Command: Major mode for editing files of input for LaTeX. Plist: 1 property (autoload) latex-mode-hook Variable: Hook to run when entering latex-mode. Plist: 1 property (variable-documentation) Ce qui semble bien indiquer qu'auctex n'est pas actif. F.B. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nouveau portable
Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2009-01-15 23:29:24 +0100, Bernard wrote: [...] il s'agit du DELL Inspiron 1525 vendu avec Ubuntu 8.04. Cela m'a coûté... 402 Euros seulement, livraison comprise ! C'est un vrai PC, non un minibook ou quelque chose du genre. Ces appareils n'ont pas mauvaise réputation, en dépit du prix. Ce que j'envisageais comme alternative, c'était un Thinkpad T61 (Lenovo désormais, autrefois IBM), proposé autour de 1800 Euros. c'est sans doute un bon appareil, mais probablement pas en rapport avec le prix quatre fois et demie supérieur. Mais il faut aussi comparer la qualité et les performances... Il est bien certain que ce n'est pas la même chose... Le dernier laptop que j'avais acheté, il y a de cela 6-7 ans, était un Thinkpad 600, que je n'ai absolument pas regretté, parce qu'il est toujours opérationnel. A l'époque, il s'agissait d'acquérir un ordinateur qui serait mon outil informatique principal ; il m'a servi plusieurs heures par jour pendant toutes ces années. Mon nouveau DELL Inspiron, quant à lui, est appelé à servir quelques heures par semaine ou par mois, en complément de mon Desktop et, quant aux performances qui ne sont pas au top de ce qui se fait aujourd'hui, elles suffisent à l'usage que je veux en faire. Il est donc important d'évaluer l'usage qu'on veut faire d'un portable avant toute décision d'achat, car 1800 Euros pour un T61, çà fait beaucoup quand même et si, d'ici 2-3 ans c'est dépassé, l'usage qui en aura été fait d'ici là ne vaudra peut-être pas l'effort financier consenti. Ubuntu, qui n'était pas ma préférence, et que j'envisageais supprimer pour installer Debian Etch ou Lenny, m'a surpris positivement, bien qu'il soit installé avec GNOME, alors que, sur mon Desktop, je travaille encore sous fvwm2 qui par ailleurs me convient parfaitement. Dans tous les cas, Ubuntu, comme Debian, est gratuit et plein de ressources. Moi aussi je suis encore sous fvwm2, mais le support UTF-8 est buggé. Alors j'envisage de changer. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: activer auctex sous xemacs
Frédéric Baldit a écrit, samedi 17 janvier 2009, à 11:24 : Bonjour, pour répondre à Jacques L'helgouach, voici le résultat de la commande qu'il m'indique: japanese-latex-mode Command: (not documented) latex-mode Command: Major mode for editing files of input for LaTeX. Plist: 1 property (autoload) latex-mode-hook Variable: Hook to run when entering latex-mode. Plist: 1 property (variable-documentation) Ce qui semble bien indiquer qu'auctex n'est pas actif. Oui :/ Est-ce qu'une ligne (require 'tex-site) dans ~/.xemacs change quelque chose ? -- Jacques L'helgoualc'h -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[testing] gnome-session: python qui consomme
Bonjour, Depuis quelques jours lors de ma première connexion à ma session gnome j'ai un processus python, fils de gnome-session, qui consomme 50% de CPU (voir capture jointe). Ce processus python a un autre processus fils python en zombie. Je suis obligé de killer le processus pour pouvoir fermer la session puis la ré-ouvrir et la je n'ai plus le problème... Gaëtan attachment: Capture.png
Re: activer auctex sous xemacs
Frédéric Baldit a écrit : Bonjour, je n'arrive pas à activer le mode auctex sous xemacs. Je croyais qu'il était activé automatiquement lorsqu'un fichier .tex est ouvert. En fait xemacs se met bien en mode latex (latex-mode dans la ligne d'en bas) mais je pensais avoir accés à plus de choses avec auctex (insertion automatique d'environements, complétion automatique,...) Bref je suis un peu perdu, si quelqu'un peut me renseigner, merci d'avance. F.B. A tout hasard dans .xemacs/init.el j'avais mis ça (mais maintenant je me sers plutôt d'Emacs) (require 'tex-site) ;lance Auc-TeX ;trouve ds le fichier info d'auctex: (setq TeX-auto-save t) (setq TeX-parse-self t) (setq-default TeX-master nil) ; fin du fich info (setq LaTeX-section-hook;prompte pour tout ce qui concerne le sectionnement '(LaTeX-section-heading LaTeX-section-title LaTeX-section-toc LaTeX-section-section LaTeX-section-label)) (setq-default TeX-master nil) ;prompt pour le fichier-maitre ;lance RefTex avec Aux-TeX : (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-reftex) ;pour accélerer RefTeX: (setq reftex-enable-partial-scans t) (setq reftex-save-parse-info t) (setq reftex-use-multiple-selection-buffers t) (setq reftex-plug-into-AUCTeX t) ; lance preview-latex (load preview-latex.el nil t t) Hopezishelps Pascal -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: Re: activer auctex sous xemacs
Oui!! Merci, le fait de rajouter (require 'tex-site) dans mon fichier .custom.el semble faire fonctionner auctex. Je dois le tester plus avant pour voir ce que ça donne, mais ça semble marcher. Merci pour l'aide. Cordialement, F.B. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DNS
Jellyroll a écrit : Bonsoir, J'ai une connexion RTC à Internet chez Free. Depuis quelques j'ai des erreurs de DNS. Il faut que j'attribue de façon fixe des adresses de DNS. Voici le message que donne parfois ma connexion : Attention !!! Si vous arrivez sur cette page c'est que votre configuration DNS est incorrecte. Merci de modifier les paramètres IP de votre ordinateur si possible en DHCP pour obtenir automatiquement la bonne configuration. Pour info les DNS de Free sont : 212.27.40.240 et 212.27.40.241 Comment faut-il faire ? pouvez-vous m'indiquer une méthode simple pour le faire (je suis débutant) ? Merci. si tu es en statique, tu peux éditer /etc/resolv.conf et mettre nameserver 212.27.40.240 nameserver 212.27.40.241 ça marchera tant que free ne change pas les serveurs. pour avoir une config automatique, il faut utiliser dhcp. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: type d'un champ mysql
Stephane Bortzmeyer a écrit : On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 05:05:54PM +0100, anto...@starinux.org anto...@starinux.org wrote a message of 17 lines which said: Il s'agit d'adresses IP (IPV4) enregistrées avec les points : A.B.C.D Drôle d'idée d'utiliser la forme texte, d'autant plus qu'elle est mal normalisée en IPv4 (A.B.C.D n'est pas la seule notation possible). Pourquoi ne pas plutôt stocker la forme binaire, qui permet des comparaisons et du masquage ? la forme texte a un interet: pas besoin de inet_aton/inet_pton lorsqu'on veut chercher une IP qu'on a en format texte. et si on utilise un format binaire, il faut faire attention à la representation (endian) si le serveur mysql et la machine cliente sont différentes (une big endian et une little endian). donc, si la table est petite, et si on fait que de la recherche exacte, la représentation texte est très acceptable. Quant à la normalisation, il suffit de mettre les contraintes: - il y a exactement 4 parties (pas de 127.1 pour dire 127.0.0.1, etc. de toute façon, ces formes ne marchent plus comme avant, puisque dans une table d'accès sendmail, 127.1 est vue comme 127.1.0.0/16). - chaque partie est un nombre entre 0 et 255, utilisant la notation normale des entiers: pas de 0 au début sauf pour le nombre 0 lui-même. En gros, pas de 012 ni de 01. Cela dit, je suis d'accord que la représentation binaire est préférable. et on peut utiliser un trigger pour la conversion au moment de l'insertion, une view pour la lisibilité, ... etc. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un scanner, trois détectés au démarrage de XSane
alexandre mathieu a écrit : Classiquement, j'utilise systematiquement epkowa, epson ne fonctionnant pas, xsane envoyant un message d'erreur lorsqu'on le choisit. 2009/1/15 thveillon.debian thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com mailto:thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com Guillaume a écrit : Bonjour à toute la liste. Branché à mon portable, j'ai un scanner Epson (Perfection 610) reconnu par lsusb (Bus 006 Device 004: ID 04b8:0103 Seiko Epson Corp. Perfection 610) et, au démarrage de xsane, j'ai trois fois mon scanner reconnu : Epson Perfection 610 scanner à plat [epson2:libusb:006:004] Epson Perfection 610 scanner à plat [epson:libusb:006:004] Epson Perfection 610 scanner à plat [epkowa:libusb:006:004] Quelqu'un saurait-il m'expliquer pourquoi ? merci d'avance ! Guillaume Salut, ton scanner est détecté par plusieurs backend de sane comme utilisable: epson, epson2 et epkowa (de libsane-extras). Tu peux les essayer une par une en commentant les autres dans /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, pour trouver celle qui fonctionne le mieux. Tom -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Je fais suivre à la liste ce message qui m'a été adressé en direct. Tom -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un scanner, trois détectés au démarrage de XSane
Le Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:04:59 + thveillon.debian thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit: alexandre mathieu a écrit : Classiquement, j'utilise systematiquement epkowa, epson ne fonctionnant pas, xsane envoyant un message d'erreur lorsqu'on le choisit. Bizarre! J'ai aussi un Perfection 610 et les 3 backend fonctionnent... Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un scanner, trois détectés au démarrage de XSane
Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:04:59 + thveillon.debian thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit: alexandre mathieu a écrit : Classiquement, j'utilise systematiquement epkowa, epson ne fonctionnant pas, xsane envoyant un message d'erreur lorsqu'on le choisit. Bizarre! J'ai aussi un Perfection 610 et les 3 backend fonctionnent... Gaëtan Merci de ne plus me mettre en cc sur ce sujet, je suis abonné à la liste ! ;-) Tom -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un scanner, trois détectés au démarrage de XSane
Le Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:24:15 + thveillon.debian thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit: Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:04:59 + thveillon.debian thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit: alexandre mathieu a écrit : Classiquement, j'utilise systematiquement epkowa, epson ne fonctionnant pas, xsane envoyant un message d'erreur lorsqu'on le choisit. Bizarre! J'ai aussi un Perfection 610 et les 3 backend fonctionnent... Gaëtan Merci de ne plus me mettre en cc sur ce sujet, je suis abonné à la liste ! ;-) Tu en es le responsable: tu as rempli le reply-to ... ;) Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Tomcat impossible de d'utiliser openlaszlo
bonjour, voulant faire 'mumuse' avec open laszlo, j'ai installé tomcat (5.5 sur une stable) j'ai toujours pas accés à admin, mais je pense pas que mon problème (ci-dessous) vienne de là : - j'ai installé le openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet.war : message ok de tomcat -dans manager, j'ai bien openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet qui pointe vers http://tank:8180/openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet mais en cliquant sur se servlet , j'ai ce message : |Etat HTTP 404 - /openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet/ | |type Rapport d'état | |message /openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet/ | |description La ressource demandée (/openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet/) n'est |pas disponible. Apache Tomcat/5.5 je regarde dans /var/lib/tomcat5.5/webapps/openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet : drwxr-xr-x 3 tomcat55 nogroup 72 2009-01-17 15:09 3rd-party drwxr-xr-x 3 tomcat55 nogroup 1,1K 2009-01-17 15:10 3rdPartyCredits -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 12K 2008-12-19 09:05 LICENSE.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 2,0K 2008-12-19 09:05 logo.gif drwxr-xr-x 7 tomcat55 nogroup 176 2009-01-17 15:09 lps drwxr-xr-x 2 tomcat55 nogroup 80 2009-01-17 15:09 META-INF drwxr-xr-x 3 tomcat55 nogroup 120 2009-01-17 15:10 my-apps -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 1,2K 2008-12-19 09:05 README.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 8,6K 2008-12-19 09:05 release-notes.html drwxr-xr-x 7 tomcat55 nogroup 232 2009-01-17 15:16 WEB-INF je sais pas si c'est conforme pour executé une appli par contre ceci me renvois quelquechose (inutilisation, mais un objet flash de compilation visiblement (dhtml, swf, ) : http://tank:8180/openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet/lps/admin/dev-console.html : -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un scanner, trois détectés au démarrage de XSane
Le samedi 17 janvier 2009, à 15:16:00, Gaëtan a écrit : Bizarre! J'ai aussi un Perfection 610 et les 3 backend fonctionnent... Idem chez moi :-P Guillaume -- Mail garanti 0% Micro$oft, Envoyé sous Debian Sid --- Pourquoi payer des logiciels inutiles en achetant un ordinateur ? http://www.racketiciel.info -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: activer auctex sous xemacs
On 17 Jan 2009, at 10:16, Frédéric Baldit wrote:
Bonjour,
pour répondre à la question: que ce passe-t-il lorsque je tape C-c
C-e? lorsque je suis en latex-mode, il se passe, si je suis aprés un
begin{document}, qu'il insère un \end{{document}, idem pour tout les
autres environnements.
Donc auctex n'est pas chargé. Est-ce qu'ajouter la ligne
(require 'tex-site)
à ton ~/.emacs résoud le problème?
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Re: Window Manager lége r [Was: Re: Nouveau portable]
On 2009-01-16 09:55:55 +0100, François Cerbelle wrote: LXDE est léger, plutot convivial et ne m'a pas posé de problèmes jusqu'à présent. Il est couplé avec PCmanFM comme gestionnaire de fichier et de bureau. Il est présent comme tâche dans Lenny, donc facilement installable. Tu devrais l'essayer comme alternative. LXDE n'est pas un window manager, mais un environnement de bureau, tout comme GNOME ou KDE. Bref, c'est lourd. Je veux juste un window manager, pas un truc qui inclut un gestionnaire de fichiers, un terminal, un éditeur de texte, etc. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nouveau portable
On 2009-01-17 11:54:33 +0100, Bernard wrote: Il est bien certain que ce n'est pas la même chose... Le dernier laptop que j'avais acheté, il y a de cela 6-7 ans, était un Thinkpad 600, que je n'ai absolument pas regretté, parce qu'il est toujours opérationnel. A l'époque, il s'agissait d'acquérir un ordinateur qui serait mon outil informatique principal ; il m'a servi plusieurs heures par jour pendant toutes ces années. Mon nouveau DELL Inspiron, quant à lui, est appelé à servir quelques heures par semaine ou par mois, en complément de mon Desktop et, quant aux performances qui ne sont pas au top de ce qui se fait aujourd'hui, elles suffisent à l'usage que je veux en faire. Il est donc important d'évaluer l'usage qu'on veut faire d'un portable avant toute décision d'achat, car 1800 Euros pour un T61, çà fait beaucoup quand même et si, d'ici 2-3 ans c'est dépassé, l'usage qui en aura été fait d'ici là ne vaudra peut-être pas l'effort financier consenti. Mais il faut prendre en compte la prise en main de la machine, les problèmes rencontrés lors de l'installation, etc. J'ai toujours un PowerBook G4 que j'ai eu il y a 8 ans et qui tourne 24h/24 (c'est là où tournent tous mes serveurs perso). -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Window Manager lége r [Was: Re: Nouveau portable]
On 17/Jan - 17:34, Vincent Lefevre wrote: LXDE n'est pas un window manager, mais un environnement de bureau, tout comme GNOME ou KDE. Bref, c'est lourd. Je veux juste un window manager, pas un truc qui inclut un gestionnaire de fichiers, un terminal, un éditeur de texte, etc. Personnellement, j'utilise depuis 10 ans (avec quelques infidélités) WindowMaker, qui offre les avantages combinés des deux (trombonne, docker) en conservant la légèreté nécessaire. Petit défaut cependant: il n'offre pas la possibilité des bureaux en mozaïque ( taille écran). -- === The BOFH Excuse Server === Your excuse is: suboptimal routing experience -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Window Manager lége r [Was: Re: Nouveau portable]
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 05:34:35PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: LXDE n'est pas un window manager, mais un environnement de bureau, tout comme GNOME ou KDE. Bref, c'est lourd. Je veux juste un window manager, pas un truc qui inclut un gestionnaire de fichiers, un terminal, un éditeur de texte, etc. icewm est mon gestionnaire de fenêtres préféré. Léger, très rapide, avec plusieurs bureaux virtuels, des raccourcis claviers, toussa. A essayer, vraiment. -- Nicolas -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DNS
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 01:53:18PM +0100, mouss mo...@ml.netoyen.net wrote a message of 41 lines which said: pour avoir une config automatique, il faut utiliser dhcp. Mais non, le démon PPP peut lui aussi recevoir des adresses de serveurs de noms et éditer /etc/resolv.conf (via le paquetage resolvconf) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Window Manager lége r [Was: Re: Nouveau portable]
On 2009-01-17 19:48:02 +0100, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: icewm est mon gestionnaire de fenêtres préféré. Léger, très rapide, avec plusieurs bureaux virtuels, des raccourcis claviers, toussa. A essayer, vraiment. J'en ai entendu parler, mais il faudrait que je me fasse une liste de fonctionnalités dont j'ai besoin. Voilà un début: _ La configuration doit être scriptable. En particulier, je veux pouvoir utiliser une seule configuration pour mes différents comptes, avec des variantes suivant les machines, la taille de l'écran, etc. _ La configuration doit pouvoir être rechargée à la volée (i.e. sans avoir à tout quitter et à tout relancer). _ Les fenêtres doivent pouvoir être resizées dans tous les sens (i.e. en déplaçant n'importe quel bord ou coin). _ Une fonctionnalité de RISC OS non supportée par Fvwm2 mais qui me plaisait bien: quand on resize une fenêtre et que le bord atteint le bord de l'écran, la fenêtre peut continuer de s'agrandir en se déplaçant dans le sens opposé. _ Les fonctionnalités standard: bureaux virtuels (avec possibilité de fenêtres collantes), raccourcis claviers, focus follows mouse, opérations opaques (resize, déplacement) voire avec une certaine transparence. _ Listes des fenêtres (le FvwmWinList de Fvwm2), dock. _ D'une manière générale, complètement configurable (j'entends par là: les fonctionnalités se définissent en terme d'opérations/commandes, avec un système de bindings sur le clavier et les boutons de la souris avec prise en compte des modifieurs clavier). En particulier, avoir autant de menus que l'on veut. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Tomcat impossible de d'utiliser openlaszlo
Bonjour Gregory, quelques conseils en vrac: - si t'as le choix utilises autre chose que Tomcat (jetty 6 ou encore mieux Glassfish) - evites les packages Debian, j'ai eu une série d'échanges avec les mainteneurs de packages Java ils ne sont pas très open et livrent des trucs qui sont de veritables gadgets , rien à faire sur des serveurs de prod ... - si t'utilises Tomcat, dans le répertoire log t'as un fichier server.log, grep sur Exception pour voir s'il y a de strucs bizarres - si tu restes sur du Tomcat passes sur la derniere version stable qui est censée être la 6.0.18.. Racontes ce qu'il t'arrive après cela.. Jerome Le 17 janvier 2009 15:40, Grégory Bulot debian.l...@batman.dyndns.org a écrit : bonjour, voulant faire 'mumuse' avec open laszlo, j'ai installé tomcat (5.5 sur une stable) j'ai toujours pas accés à admin, mais je pense pas que mon problème (ci-dessous) vienne de là : - j'ai installé le openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet.war : message ok de tomcat -dans manager, j'ai bien openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet qui pointe vers http://tank:8180/openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet mais en cliquant sur se servlet , j'ai ce message : |Etat HTTP 404 - /openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet/ | |type Rapport d'état | |message /openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet/ | |description La ressource demandée (/openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet/) n'est |pas disponible. Apache Tomcat/5.5 je regarde dans /var/lib/tomcat5.5/webapps/openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet : drwxr-xr-x 3 tomcat55 nogroup 72 2009-01-17 15:09 3rd-party drwxr-xr-x 3 tomcat55 nogroup 1,1K 2009-01-17 15:10 3rdPartyCredits -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 12K 2008-12-19 09:05 LICENSE.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 2,0K 2008-12-19 09:05 logo.gif drwxr-xr-x 7 tomcat55 nogroup 176 2009-01-17 15:09 lps drwxr-xr-x 2 tomcat55 nogroup 80 2009-01-17 15:09 META-INF drwxr-xr-x 3 tomcat55 nogroup 120 2009-01-17 15:10 my-apps -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 1,2K 2008-12-19 09:05 README.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 8,6K 2008-12-19 09:05 release-notes.html drwxr-xr-x 7 tomcat55 nogroup 232 2009-01-17 15:16 WEB-INF je sais pas si c'est conforme pour executé une appli par contre ceci me renvois quelquechose (inutilisation, mais un objet flash de compilation visiblement (dhtml, swf, ) : http://tank:8180/openlaszlo-4.2.0-servlet/lps/admin/dev-console.html : -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Jerome Moliere - Mentor/J http://romjethoughts.blogspot.com/ auteur Eyrolles
Yet another list statistics for debian-user-french
Hi, as you can read in my lightning talk at DebConf http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200808_lightning/ I did some investigation on who is frequently posting on our mailing lists. I now created graphs until end of last year and write a short summary for those lists I regard worth a comment. I'm not CCed to all of this list so if you want to discuss something please keep me in CC. If you want to discuss the results in general just write to debian-project. All graphs and the code that was used to create the graphs are available at http://people.debian.org/~tille/liststats/ If you are interested in a mailing list which was not analysed, just tell me. I was running the scripts on those lists I personally had some interest and those with more than 1000 subscribers. I plan to clean up code and write some doc about it but this will not happen in the next couple of weeks. The graph for this specific list is --- start of mailing list specific part -- http://people.debian.org/~tille/liststats/authorstat_user-french.pdf Sorry for the English posting - I hope you are interested in the graph. Kind regards Andreas -- http://fam-tille.de -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: error vpn [solucionado]
Antonio Arriaga [DTI2] escribió: - Original Message - From: Sergio serc...@alumni.uv.es To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org; ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: error vpn Hola a todos. Una consulta: Hago una conexión por vpn, se realiza bien (conecta), me da la configuración correcta de ip, y los ping a www.google.com los hace bien. Si por ejemplo al hacer un ssh r...@maquina.uv.es no conecta. Si miro en el sys log me devuelve vpnc[6142]: sendto: Message too long, ¿a qué puede ser debido? Gracias. Son muy pocos datos, lo único que se me ocurre es que la MTU esté configurada más baja de lo normal y que en algún punto hasta el otro extremo donde quieres hacer ssh tenga capado el ICMP, lo que provocaría que ICMP no te devuelve el paquete con error destination unreachable, code 4 fragmentation needed but don't-fragment bit set. Puedes comprobar si es eso haciendo pings con tamaño cada vez mayor y poniendo la opción de no fragmentar. == Antonio Hola Antonio. Pues has dado en el clavo (y la duda tenia nivel), por alguna razón cuando realizo la vpn el valor de la MTU no era el correcto, lo he cambiado a 1500 y a partir de ahí los problemas se han solucionado (conecto por ssh, navego ..). Auque no entiendo porqué ahora si debo debo meter el valor cuando antes no me fué necesario, se ve que la última actualización no me ha sentado muy bien. Muchas gracias por tu ayuda. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: configurador de X11
2009/1/17 Pablo Zúñiga pzun...@publiglob.com estimados: existe algun configurador grafico tipo SAX2 o yast, para X11? No conozco ni el SAX2 ni el Yast aplicado a X11 (se que Yast administra la paquetería de distros como Suse) ¿A qué te refieres con configurador gráfico de X11? X11 es bastante grande como para que lo administre una sóla aplicación. Tampoco sé que aspecto de X11 quieres configurar. Hay herramientas tipo *grandr* (disponible en los repos de Debian) que permiten cambiar la frecuencia de refresco y la resolución del monitor (entre otras cosas) usando XRandR.
Re: probando gnome..
El 13 de enero de 2009 17:25, aux escribió: Hola, recien estoy probando gnome en lenny (hasta ahora venia usando kde) y queria compartir algunas experiencias con los gnomeros ;-) (esto no pretende ser un flame, solo son opiniones) -a primera vista me gusta mas el aspecto de gnome, nosé lo veo mas cuidado:iconos, ventanas, aspecto en general,etc. -he estado usando gnome-terminal y no me acaba de convencer,trabajo con muchisimas sesiones ssh y la verdad es que con Konsole lo veia mas bonito, ya que tenia en cada pestaña una sesión con un dibujo diferente. Se pueden poner dibujos a las pestañas de gnome-terminal? he mirado por encima pero no lo he visto. Alguna aplicación similar a konsole? -He probado vinagre (el cliente vnc) y nada mas poner la ip gnome me peta y me retorna el gdm a la pantalla de login. No veo ninguna funcion de debug y tampoco suelta nada por la pantalla antes de petar. -Soy usuario de kopete y me he dispuesto a usar pidgit. Me gusta bastante aunque hecho de menos el ver las diferentes cuentas de msn con un color diferente. Algun otro cliente que haga esto? de momento eso es todo gracias :-) Disculpen que haga una pregunta demasiado simple pero he estado buscando y no he encontrado cómo actualizar el Gnome sin romper todo. Ya agregué los repositorios y todo eso. Supongo que será algo upgrade pero no sé bien y no quiero volver a romper el Sistema. Saludos y Muchas gracias Sylvia
Re: configurador de X11
Hola Pablo, X11 lleva una herramienta de (auto)configuración. Como root, debes ejecutar: # X -configure Y se creará un fichero con la configuración que ha considerado correcta en /root/xorg.conf.new . Tal vez con eso te baste... Saludos, On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Pablo Zúñiga pzun...@publiglob.com wrote: estimados: existe algun configurador grafico tipo SAX2 o yast, para X11? -- Pablo Zúñiga E Desarrollo Web Departamento de servicio web Publiglob :: Soluciones informáticas ::: Contacto | Informaciones: i...@publiglob.com Servicio Atención al cliente: s...@publiglob.com http://www.publiglob.com ::: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: probando gnome..
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:34:24PM -0800, consultores1 wrote: El vie, 16-01-2009 a las 16:40 +0100, David Francos (XayOn) escribió: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 03:36:29PM -0800, consultores1 wrote: El jue, 15-01-2009 a las 13:16 +0100, fla...@correo.ugr.es escribió: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:57:07AM +0100, fla...@correo.ugr.es wrote: Bueno, creo que aprovechare para hacer 3 preguntas sobre Gnome yo uso Lenny (Gnome y KDE). 1. Como tener 3 usuarios con Idiomas diferentes en Gnome (Ingles, Frances y Castellano)? Las otras te las han contestado, pero creo que ésta no. En 3 y en los que quieras. Instala los paquetes de internacionalización en esos idiomas de Gnome y de las aplicaciones que necesites. Instala las locales de los idiomas que necesites ( dpkg-reconfigure locales ). Y antes de entrar con el usuario, en el gdm, elige el idioma correspondiente. Las próximas veces ya entrará siempre en ese idioma (salvo que lo cambies). Esto sirve para cualquier entorno, claro. ¿Eso incluye el teclado? Si no, tienes una opcion para ajustar tu keyboard layout por usuario en gnome. (en gnome-keyboard-properties ) Pues ahí me has pillado. No creo que te cambie la distribución de teclado, ni tampoco he pensado que lo quisiera hacer. Pero vamos, que es como dices, irse a las preferencias de Gnome y al teclado, lo cuál no es complejo ni pesado (si sólo son tres, claro). Veamos si estoy entendiendo correctamente; yo tengo 3 usuarios que quieren usar 3 idiomas distintos, y me sugieren que cambie la configuracion del teclado? Adonde encuentro lo de internacionalizacion? Ya te lo hemos dicho, de dos maneras distintas. Una, en gnome: menu/sistema/preferencias/teclado (y ahi en la segunda pestaña) Y otra, ejecutando gnome-keyboard-properties que es exactamente lo mismo (y como te saldra lo mismo, tambien en la segunda pestaña). Esto con cada usuario... Espero que poseas alguna capacidad de entendimiento y con esto no pretendo discusiones sin sentido. Pues hombre, poner en entredicho mi capacidad de entendimiento no es muy educado que digamos, y a mi parecer, es una provocacion, con la coletilla de con esto no pretendo discusiones sin sentido para hacerme, encima, quedar mal a mi con mi (obvia) respuesta. Si solicito aclaracion, es por que me interesa saber como esta relacionado el teclado con los idiomas. Facil, regionalizacion, en estados unidos hablan ingles y utilizan un teclado qwerty distinto a nosotros (sin eñes etc), el ingles no requiere eñes. En francia hablan frances y utilizan un teclado azerty. No esque para escribir en frances tengas que usar un teclado azerty, sino que los franceses escriben en frances y con teclados azerty (excepciones hay, fijo, igual que aqui en españa se de gente que usa teclado americano...). Te aclaro que lo que yo hago, es que al instalar, agrego los idiomas que necesito y luego en gdm, el usuario puede escoger el idioma a usar. Que supongo, es lo que sugieren y no me gusta, por que el mensaje para entrar te aparece en el ultimo idioma usado y no en el del usuario actual. Pero, eso de cambiar la configuracion del teclado, me parece nuevo. Si no te gusta, prueba a editar el archivo .dmrc Un ejemplo seria: [Desktop] Session=gnome Language=es_ES.UTF-8 Asi dejas el idioma bien. cada usuario tendra su $HOME/.dmrc , ten en cuenta que tiene que tener permisos 644 Para lo de el teclado puedes hacerlo como dije (no voy a repetirlo por tercera vez), con setxbmap o puede (pero no lo se) que puedas hacerlo con alguna entrada en tu .dmrc Asi, que si tu no tienes capacidad para establecer una comunicacion respetuosa, pues no respondas a mis preguntas, por favor. Me refiero a esto: Ya te lo hemos dicho, de dos maneras distintas. Si te fijas mejor, eso fue una introduccion, con reproche, por supuesto, ya que para algo sirven los archivos de la lista, para mi respuesta, un resumen de lo que ya se habia dicho, por cierto. Y todavia no entiendo eso de Instala los paquetes de internacionalizacion Paquetes de internacionalizacion: paquetes de idiomas. De todos modos, yo tenia entendido que gnome no tenia de esos ;-) Openoffice y iceweasel si. Busca iceweasel locale es y openoffice locale es en tu gestor de paquetes habitual. PD: Yo sigo viendo, que si no utilizamos un lenguaje claro y mantenemos ordenadas las respuestas; solamente crearemos mas y mas confusion. Gracias. Te respondo exactamente eso mismo. Date cuenta que no es agradable echarle un cable a alguien y que encima sea desagradable contigo. Es realmente ofensivo. -- http://thexayon.wordpress.com Que la fuerza os acompañe. -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS dpu s: a--- C UL P L+++ E--- W+++ N+++ o+ K- w--- O M+ V- PS+ PE+++ Y PGP++ t--- 5 X+++ R tv+++ b DI--- D+++ G+ e- h++ r+++ y
Re: probando gnome..
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 08:25:20PM +0100, aux wrote: [...] -he estado usando gnome-terminal y no me acaba de convencer,trabajo con muchisimas sesiones ssh y la verdad es que con Konsole lo veia mas bonito, ya que tenia en cada pestaña una sesión con un dibujo diferente. Se pueden poner dibujos a las pestañas de gnome-terminal? he mirado por encima pero no lo he visto. Alguna aplicación similar a konsole? IMHO deberias olvidarte de las pestañas, GNOME, KDE o whatever y aprender a usar GNU Screen. -- Mario Martinez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Monitorizar terminales desde router
Estimados: Donde trabajo hay un router que comparte el acceso ainternet, y el mismo pues ser configurado y monitorizado desde un navegador. Días pasados lo cambiaron, y sigo teniendo un inconveniente que yo se lo achacaba al router antiguo. Cuando consulto la tabla DHCP, lista todas las terminales conectadas con su dirección IP. Lo curioso es que si bien aparecen las direcciones IP y su estado, no parecen los nombres de las terminales que corren Linux, pero sí aparecen las que tienen Windows. Por ejemplo Host Name IP AddressMAC Address term-27192.168.1.2 00-50-2C-A6-F1-CC 192.168.1.3 00-19-66-65-78-F8 term-42192.168.1.7 00-21-41-B3-F2-C1 La que no tiene Host Name, es un Linux. ¿Cómo puedo hacer para que las terminales GNU/Linux aparezcan en la tabla? Por una cuestión de control, para saber quién está conectado. Gracias. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
duda sobre con que editor abrir .chm
Alguno de ustedes sabe con que editor podria abrir esta extension de archivo c+++gui+programming+with+qt+4.chm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: duda sobre con que editor abrir .chm
El día 17 de enero de 2009 14:52, Reiniel Gonzalez Martinez rgmarti...@estudiantes.uci.cu escribió: Alguno de ustedes sabe con que editor podria abrir esta extension de archivo c+++gui+programming+with+qt+4.chm Hola. Podes abrirlo desde Firefox[1]. O investigar un poco en los repositorios[2] e instalar un lector[3] apropiado. Saludos ! [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/3235 [2] # aptitude search chm [3] gnochm, kchmviewer, xchm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: duda sobre con que editor abrir .chm
El 17 de enero de 2009 20:52, Reiniel Gonzalez Martinez rgmarti...@estudiantes.uci.cu escribió: Alguno de ustedes sabe con que editor podria abrir esta extension de archivo c+++gui+programming+with+qt+4.chm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=chm+file+format+debian Esto de preguntar sin siquiera hacer una simple consulta empieza a ser cansino ya...
Re: duda sobre con que editor abrir .chm
Reiniel Gonzalez Martinez escribió: Alguno de ustedes sabe con que editor podria abrir esta extension de archivo c+++gui+programming+with+qt+4.chm Hola. Puedes usar el gnochm http://gnochm.sourceforge.net/ Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: probando gnome..
El sáb, 17-01-2009 a las 13:10 -0300, Mario Martínez escribió: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 08:25:20PM +0100, aux wrote: [...] -he estado usando gnome-terminal y no me acaba de convencer,trabajo con muchisimas sesiones ssh y la verdad es que con Konsole lo veia mas bonito, ya que tenia en cada pestaña una sesión con un dibujo diferente. Se pueden poner dibujos a las pestañas de gnome-terminal? he mirado por encima pero no lo he visto. Alguna aplicación similar a konsole? IMHO deberias olvidarte de las pestañas, GNOME, KDE o whatever y aprender a usar GNU Screen. EMHO (esta es una lista en español) ese es el consejo mas ridículo que he leido. Una de las ventajas de un entorno gráfico es justamente la de tener DISTINTAS ventanas y ventanas con pestañas. Siguiendo tu forma de pensar,para que usar entorno gráfico? para que la web? y asi hasta el monitor color En cuanto a gnome-terminal, podes cambiarle el titulo a cada pestaña o ventana -- Mario Martinez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Yet another list statistics for debian-user-spanish
Hi, as you can read in my lightning talk at DebConf http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200808_lightning/ I did some investigation on who is frequently posting on our mailing lists. I now created graphs until end of last year and write a short summary for those lists I regard worth a comment. I'm not CCed to all of this list so if you want to discuss something please keep me in CC. If you want to discuss the results in general just write to debian-project. All graphs and the code that was used to create the graphs are available at http://people.debian.org/~tille/liststats/ If you are interested in a mailing list which was not analysed, just tell me. I was running the scripts on those lists I personally had some interest and those with more than 1000 subscribers. I plan to clean up code and write some doc about it but this will not happen in the next couple of weeks. The graph for this specific list is --- start of mailing list specific part -- http://people.debian.org/~tille/liststats/authorstat_user-spanish.pdf Sorry for the English posting - I hope you are interested in the graph. Kind regards Andreas -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: probando gnome..
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 09:03:31PM -0200, angel wrote: El sáb, 17-01-2009 a las 13:10 -0300, Mario Martínez escribió: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 08:25:20PM +0100, aux wrote: [...] EMHO (esta es una lista en español) ese es el consejo mas ridículo que he leido. Una de las ventajas de un entorno gráfico es justamente la de tener DISTINTAS ventanas y ventanas con pestañas. Pues creo que GNU Screen es mas flexible y consume menos recursos que abrir varias pestañas en gnome-terminal o konsole y lo mejor, es independiente del entorno de escritorio que estes usando. Siguiendo tu forma de pensar,para que usar entorno gráfico? para que la web? y asi hasta el monitor color Je. No es que este tratando de volver era mesozoica, mas bien creo que hay que darle cabida a esas joyitas de antaño que no son muy conocidas. Tambien creo que las pestañas son una soberana estupidez teniendo herramientas como la ya mencionada. OJO, lo anterior lo digo dentro de este contexto. Las pestañas pueden ser muy utiles en otras circunstancias. -- Mario Martinez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: duda sobre con que editor abrir .chm
2009/1/17 Abraham Pérez joc...@gmail.com: El 17 de enero de 2009 20:52, Reiniel Gonzalez Martinez rgmarti...@estudiantes.uci.cu escribió: Alguno de ustedes sabe con que editor podria abrir esta extension de archivo c+++gui+programming+with+qt+4.chm http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=chm+file+format+debian Esto de preguntar sin siquiera hacer una simple consulta empieza a ser cansino ya... Si de acuerdo contigo este muchachito ya se acostumbro. Una simple busqueda en google: http://www.google.cl/search?hl=esq=leer+chm+en+debianbtnG=Buscarmeta= Y utilizando buscar en synaptic por chm aparece: CHM(Compiled HTML) Decompressor arCHMage is a reader and decompiler for files in the CHM format. This is the format used by Microsoft HTML Help, and is also known as Compiled HTML. - CHM file viewer for GNOME Gnochm is a Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for GNOME systems. Features are: * Support for external ms-its links * Full text search support * Bookmarks * Configurable support for HTTP links * Integrated with GNOME2 * Support for multiple languages * Support to open multiple files at once -- Visor de archivos CHM de KDE KchmViewer es un visor de archivos CHM (el formato del archivo de ayuda en HTML de MS), escrito en C++. A diferencia de la mayoría de los visores de archivos CHM existentes en UNIX, usa la biblioteca de los elementos gráficos de Qt de Trolltech, y no depende de KDE o GNOME. No obstante, se puede compilar con compatibilidad completa con KDE, incluyendo sus elementos gráficos y KIO/KHTML. - Visor de arhivos de ayuda compilada en HTML (CHM) de X xCHM es un visor de archivos de ayuda compilada en HTML (CHM). Puede mostrar el árbol de contenidos si está disponible, imprimir la página actual y realizar las tareas usuales sobre el historial. Permite cambiar las tipografías y buscar texto en todas las páginas del archivo o en los títulos de las páginas. xCHM no es compatible con JavaScript en los libros. - Ahora ni buscar en el mismo sistema se acostumbra. Suerte -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: duda sobre con que editor abrir .chm
El día 17 de enero de 2009 22:47, Marco marcom...@gmail.com escribió: 2009/1/17 Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com: 2009/1/17 Abraham Pérez joc...@gmail.com: El 17 de enero de 2009 20:52, Reiniel Gonzalez Martinez rgmarti...@estudiantes.uci.cu escribió: Alguno de ustedes sabe con que editor podria abrir esta extension de archivo c+++gui+programming+with+qt+4.chm ¿Y tú sabes usar apt-* ? [...@]:~$ apt-cache search chm file viewer Supongo que esto era para la lista. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PIFAC - A prety interface for apt-cache.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Davi Vercillo C. Garcia escreveu: Fala pessoal, Sempre tive problemas ao usar o apt-cache para buscar informações sobre pacotes e versões dos mesmos nas máquinas Debian que uso e administro. Tenho estudado Python, faz uns 4-6 meses, e resolvi tentar escrever um programa simples que me confortasse ao usar o apt-cache. apt-cache é obsoleto. Tente usar aptitude search. Inspirado por aplicativos como 'emerge' (Gentoo) e 'yaourt' (Archlinux) nasceu o 'pifac'. Pifac, como o nome já diz, é uma interface pro apt-cache que possibilita o uso de cores e exibição de detalhes de maneira mais humanamente aceitável (cores e formatações). Provavelmente deve haver muitas melhorias cabíveis ao Pifac (reconheço meu pouco conhecimento em Python), o que estou aceitando dicas, mas ao mesmo tempo penso que ele pode ser interessante para alguém. já tentou usar o aptitude sem argumento. faz assim: aptitude e se quiser localizar um pacote aperta a / e digita o nome. Fora que tem o synaptics também, que é gráfico Ele pode ser encontrado em: http://code.google.com/p/pifac/ OBS: Uma outra motivação foi que eu não encontrei nenhum aplicativo que fizesse isso. aptitude Abraços, Outro. - -- Flamarion Jorge -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklxtxQACgkQ0SDRnmynUOEwqgCeMpZdmXNRa8zsEq/vOO3fgFJy fbwAoJONt/Gh9L5DZuIKOZ+YHP4dfehe =uedQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Estudante perde semestre da fac uldade e põe a culpa no Linux
Fábio de Sousa escreveu: Olha só o que temos que ouvir e ler na Internet? Sem acesso à internet para assistir às aulas e sem o Word para realizar as tarefas de cadeiras online, Abie Schubert acabou largando as disciplinas em que se matriculara. – Eu estou extremamente frustrada. Eu quer voltar para a escola, mas preciso de um computador que me permita fazer isso – comentou a estudante. Obviamente isso é desculpa. Ela é com toda certeza uma LOOSER e que achou a desculpa perfeita. Mas Temos que repensar tambem a dependencia institucional de padrões adotados pela Microsoft. O caso aqui não é uma lamer que não sabe usar outra coisa que não seja M$ Windows/M$ Office. O caso aqui é uma universidade que não sabe usar outro padrão que não seja o .DOC do Word, e desconfio o .XLS do Excel e o .PPS do Power Point. Tanto é que a universidade afinou e aceitou a estudante novamente e aceitará os trabalhos dela em qualquer software que ela entregar. Se ela tivesse entregado os trabalhos em dia no formato do LaTeX será que a universidade teria aceito? A Dell não se manifestou sobre o caso, disse a WKOW TV. Esse é outro ponto, o pós-venda da Dell anda pisando demais na bola. -- André Ricardo Righetto
Re: debian com KDE
Em Sáb, 2009-01-17 às 00:33 -0200, Alexandre Pereira Bühler escreveu: Boa noite pessoal, Não precisava ter o trabalho de baixar o cd para instalação padrão do kde. Com o cd que instala o gnome com padrão basta fazer os seguintes procedimentos: 1) Sarge. dê o boot pelo cd, na tela inicial não dê enter para começar a instalação. Ao invés de enter tecle F8. Irá aparecer um monte de opções que você pode usar. Entre elas desabilitar o dhcp e optar por um endereço estático durante a instalação ou instalar direto o kde. Então com pode se ver nesta tela no boot: digite -- install tasks=kde-desktop, standard e dê enter. Ao invés de instalar o gnome ele instala o kde e o kdm como padrão. 2) Lenny Na tela inicial escolha help. Depois F8. Lá você encontra as mesmas opções com algumas diferenças de sintaxe. Para instalar o kde e kdm como padrão digite na frente do boot: install desktop=kde Dê enter e pronto. Kde instalado por padrão. Isto vale para os cd ou dvd de instalação. Até Alexandre Olá. Apenas um comentário. O único problema dessa solução é que se você baixou o primeiro cd de instalação o kde precisa ser inteiramente baixado de um repositório debian. Então se você não tiver uma conexão rápida ou mesmo se estiver com um máquina fora de uma rede fica quase impraticável. Sendo mais interessante baixar o cd de instalação do kde. Abraço. Fabiano. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Estudante perde semestre da faculdade e põe a culpa no L inux
Interessante essa notícia. Acho que alguns pontos que precisam serem analisados: 1) Estudante perde semestre de faculdade. Vejamos. Qual o nivel desta estudante? Como e possível uma pessoa que esteja em uma faculdade nao tenha condições de lidar com um SO e perder todo um semestre sem buscar ajuda de alguem ou em algum lugar. Se ela fizesse algum comentario qualquer em um curso superior pessoas que lidam com o Linux na sua maioria me parece que terem o maior prazer em ajudar e saem praticamente correndo atras de um problema qualquer nem que seja somente para mostrar que sabe lidar com o sistema. 2) Nao conseguiu instalar o M$Word: Bem essa eu não culpo ela. acho que nem eu mesmo conseguiria instalar. Talvez usando uma maquina com boot duplo e usando o Wine por exemplo daria certo. Mas, ela podeira usar o OpenOffice. Não é verdade? Nem são tão diferentes assim e a maioria das funções bem como atralhos são parecidos senão idênticos e, aqui me parece que quem noticio foi extremamente infeliz e tendenciosa ou tambem nao conhece o SO Linux. 3) Ta tudo bagunçado e me arrependo da compra: No Brasil temos os órgãos de defesa do consumidor que garantem a troca principalmente feitas on-line, desconheço as leis norte americanas, mas acredito que lá não seja muito diferente então a troca nao foi feita porque ela simplesmente nao correu atras quando viu que nao teria condicoes de utilizar aquele SO estranho a ela; 4) A estudante teve problemas para instalar o modem da operadora para acessar a internet: Novamente falta total de interesse para alguem que esteja inscrita em um curso on-line onde disposicao e praticamente 90% do pre-requisito para se atingir um bom nivel de aproveitamento e satisfacao; 5) Eu estou extremamente frustrada. Eu quer voltar para a escola, mas preciso de um computador que me permita fazer isso: Realmente ela precisa nao somente de um computador que a permita fazer isso bem como pessoas que possa lhe auxiliar a utilizar o M$Windows bem como seus aplicativos haja visto o fim tragico do seu empreedimento e suas motivacoes: 6) A Dell não se manifestou sobre o caso, disse a WKOW TV: No meu ver a Dell deveria sim se pronunciar ainda que venha a expor sua cliente a situacao ridicula e constrangedora. E trocar sua maquina por um sistema que ela tivesse condicoes de utilizar. Finalizando: A TV que anuncio o Causo foi extremamente infeliz, eu utilizo o Linux ja a alguns anos e na minha casa tenho uma maquina com boot duplo com o FC9 e Win2K e como incentivo a utilizacao do Linux por parte de meus filhos o acesso a internet e feito somente via Linux (vejam que interessante eles praticamente perderam o interesse o Win) Foi uma questao de estrategia e o dia em que eles se submeterem a um concurso ou emprego em que seja utilizado o Linux vao se lembrar da intransigencia do pai e dizer ainda bem que meu pai me forcou a aprender a utilizar o Linux. PS. Liberdade sim. Libertinagem nao. Olha só o que temos que ouvir e ler na Internet?É mole? Não Acreditei... Abraços a todos! Fabiocs Estudante perde semestre da faculdade e põe a culpa no Linux Laptop adquirido veio com Ubuntu pré-instalado, software do qual ela nunca ouvira falar A estudante norte-americana Abbie Schubert acabou largando um semestre de aulas no Madison Area Technical College (MATC), nos Estados Unidos. O culpado? O Linux, mais especificamente a distribuição da Canonical, Ubuntu. Abbie comprou um laptop na esperança de cursar uma cadeira online no MATC, mas o sistema operacional acabou travando a vida da estudante. Segundo o site da estação de TV local WKOW, a estudante nunca tinha ouvido falar do sistema operacional, e sequer fazia ideia de que seu computador, comprado online pela Dell.com, viria com ele. Tá tudo bagunçado. Me arrependo da compra disse Abbie. Quando ligou para o suporte, a tempo de trocar, a estudante sou persuadida pelo atendimento a permanecer com o Ubuntu: A pessoa com quem eu falei disse que o Ubuntu era ótimo, que estudantes adoravam, que era compatível com tudo que eu precisava. Ela aceitou, mas não se deu muito bem com ele. A estudante teve problemas para instalar o modem da operadora para acessar a internet e ainda por cima não conseguiu instalar o Word, requisito para as aulas online. Ao ligar novamente para o suporte, foi informada de que agora não poderia mais trocar para o Windows (o prazo tinha espirado) e que, devido às alterações que fizera, perdera a garantia do equipamento. Sem acesso à internet para assistir às aulas e sem o Word para realizar as tarefas de cadeiras online, Abie Schubert acabou largando as disciplinas em que se matriculara. Eu estou extremamente frustrada. Eu quer voltar para a escola, mas preciso de um computador que me permita fazer isso comentou a estudante. Em socorro da estudante, a rede de televisão intermediou o contato com a operadora, a Dell e a escola em que Abbie está matriculada. O
Re: PIFAC - A prety interface for apt-cache.
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 08:46:44AM -0200, Flamarion Jorge wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Davi Vercillo C. Garcia escreveu: Fala pessoal, Sempre tive problemas ao usar o apt-cache para buscar informações sobre pacotes e versões dos mesmos nas máquinas Debian que uso e administro. Tenho estudado Python, faz uns 4-6 meses, e resolvi tentar escrever um programa simples que me confortasse ao usar o apt-cache. Estou estudando python também há um tempo, e me interessei pelo programa. apt-cache é obsoleto. Tente usar aptitude search. Não, não é bem assim. O apt-cache tem várias funções bem práticas (policy por exemplo, e mesmo o search que procura em todos os campos ao mesmo tempo). E o apt-get continua sendo útil para instalar provisoriamente (se você precisa de uma dependência só para compilar alguma coisa, instala com o apt-get e o aptitude sugerirá retirá-lo da próxima vez). Inspirado por aplicativos como 'emerge' (Gentoo) e 'yaourt' (Archlinux) nasceu o 'pifac'. Pifac, como o nome já diz, é uma interface pro apt-cache que possibilita o uso de cores e exibição de detalhes de maneira mais humanamente aceitável (cores e formatações). Não conheço os outros aplicativos (nunca usei a sério nenhuma outra distribuição, apesar de já ter instalado várias para dar uma olhada), mas a idéia parece muito interessante. Provavelmente deve haver muitas melhorias cabíveis ao Pifac (reconheço meu pouco conhecimento em Python), o que estou aceitando dicas, mas ao mesmo tempo penso que ele pode ser interessante para alguém. Duas dicas a partir de uma rápida olhada no código: 1) use menos a forma from x import y, pois a leitura fica bem mais difícil. (ver o zen do python). 2) procure reutilizar trabalho já feito: a) quais são os programas já existentes que fazem busca de pacotes debian? b) acho que existe um pacote python-debian ou algo do gênero que faz uma interface para algumas coisas (o que?) do debian. você olhou? c) o ipython tem uma biblioteca interessante para uso de cores no terminal. já tentou usar o aptitude sem argumento. faz assim: aptitude e se quiser localizar um pacote aperta a / e digita o nome. Essa busca do aptitude só procura nos nomes de pacotes. A partir daí, é possível fazer muitos tipos de busca, mas é preciso olhar no aptitude-howto os códigos (que começam com til, por exemplo, se tiver ~i na busca, ele só procura pacotes instalados). Fora que tem o synaptics também, que é gráfico Lembre-se de que tem gente que prefere não usar a interface gráfica (é meu caso, por exemplo). Ele pode ser encontrado em: http://code.google.com/p/pifac/ Estou interessado em fazer isso avançar, mas acho que a partir de agora nossa conversa vira off-topic; podemos continuá-la fora da lista? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Res: PIFAC - A prety interface for apt-cache.
Não, não é bem assim. O apt-cache tem várias funções bem práticas (policy por exemplo, e mesmo o search que procura em todos os campos ao mesmo tempo). E o apt-get continua sendo útil para instalar provisoriamente (se você precisa de uma dependência só para compilar alguma coisa, instala com o apt-get e o aptitude sugerirá retirá-lo da próxima vez). O apt-* é obsoleto, aptitude faz tudo o que você disse. Basta saber usar corretamente. [...] Essa busca do aptitude só procura nos nomes de pacotes. A partir daí, é possível fazer muitos tipos de busca, mas é preciso olhar no aptitude-howto os códigos (que começam com til, por exemplo, se tiver ~i na busca, ele só procura pacotes instalados). aptitude search procura em todos os campos, inclusive comentários. Lembre-se de que tem gente que prefere não usar a interface gráfica (é meu caso, por exemplo). Foi só uma sugestão para quem gosta de usar a interface gráfica, igual eu. Flamarion Jorge Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com
Re: Res: PIFAC - A prety interface for apt-cache.
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 06:24:50AM -0800, Flamarion Jorge wrote: O apt-* é obsoleto, aptitude faz tudo o que você disse. Basta saber usar corretamente. Cite-me uma fonte para isso. Ou talvez eu não entenda o que é um programa obsoleto. Um programa que ainda faz o que sempre fez, que é mantido por seus desenvolvedores e que ainda vem instalado por padrão em novos sistemas debian não é o que eu chamaria de obsoleto. Tiago. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
cpufreq-nforce2
Olá, Estava a configurar o meu kernel para o meu hardware AMD64 numa M2N32WS Pro, vi na internet uma referencia para o cpufreq-nforce2. O problema é que o gconfig não me deixa selecionar para ser compilado. Obrigado Silvino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
duvida
Boa Tarde! Meu nome é Fábio gostaria de uma ajuda. Comprei um notebook Acer Aspire 4520, e instalei o MS Windows em uma partição e tentei instalat o Debian Linux em outra. Porém ao tentar particionar a parte do disco reservada ao linux o sistema não me permitia deixar a partição de swap como partição lógica, somente como uma partição primária. terminei assim mesmo a instalação com o ambiente gráfico gnome, só que após reiniciar o sistema para entrar no linux aparecia um erro dizendo que havia uma falha de entrada e saida no servidor X. e so ficava no sistema basico não entrando o ambiente gráfico. Gostaria de saber se há algo que possam me ajudar para solucionar este problema. Grato desde já, Fábio _ Confira vídeos com notícias do NY Times, gols direto do Lance, videocassetadas e muito mais no MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br
Re: Estudante perde semestre da faculdade e põe a culpa no Linux
2009/1/17 Anacleto Pavão anacletopa...@yahoo.com.br: Interessante essa notícia. Acho que alguns pontos que precisam serem analisados: 1) Estudante perde semestre de faculdade. Vejamos. Qual o nivel desta estudante? Deve ser o mesmo nível de uma grande massa de estudantes brasileiros. Se não, por que teriamos disciplinas de Introdução a Processamento de Dados, essa presente na maioria dos cursos das áreas não-tecnológicas? Como e possível uma pessoa que esteja em uma faculdade nao tenha condições de lidar com um SO e perder todo um semestre sem buscar ajuda de alguem ou em algum lugar.Se ela fizesse algum comentario qualquer em um curso superior pessoas que lidam com o Linux na sua maioria me parece que terem o maior prazer em ajudar e saem praticamente correndo atras de um problema qualquer nem que seja somente para mostrar que sabe lidar com o sistema. As vezes não existem tais pessoas. Pode parecer estranhos mais alguns cursos superiores ainda estão impregnados de software e políticas proprietárias. A uSoft (u = micro) coibe muitas universidades e cursos tecnológicos de forma a evitar que os mesmos libertem-se. Aqui, coibição está como sinônimo de ajuda (sim, entre aspas). A exempĺo, conheço alguns alunos que sairam do CEFET-RN e nem conheciam a cara de um gerenciador de janelas. Porém, já tinham horas e horas de treinamento oficial para o exame uSoft Certified Professional Clicker. 2) Nao conseguiu instalar o M$Word: Bem essa eu não culpo ela. acho que nem eu mesmo conseguiria instalar. Talvez usando uma maquina com boot duplo e usando o Wine por exemplo daria certo. Mas, ela podeira usar o OpenOffice. Não é verdade? Nem são tão diferentes assim e a maioria das funções bem como atralhos são parecidos senão idênticos e, aqui me parece que quem noticio foi extremamente infeliz e tendenciosa ou tambem nao conhece o SO Linux. Isso... 3) Ta tudo bagunçado e me arrependo da compra: No Brasil temos os órgãos de defesa do consumidor que garantem a troca principalmente feitas on-line, desconheço as leis norte americanas, mas acredito que lá não seja muito diferente então a troca nao foi feita porque ela simplesmente nao correu atras quando viu que nao teria condicoes de utilizar aquele SO estranho a ela; Eu conheço bem por cima. Lá acontece exatamente o oposto daqui. Aqui no Brasil, o consumidor é mais valorizado que a empresa, podendo até um caso especial ser criado caso não exista referências na constituição. Já nos EUA, existe um guideline para casos de insatisfação do cliente. Sabe aqueles produtos importados mentirosos? Fazem o maior sucesso lá. E se você comprou enganado, tipo aquelas facas Guinsu 2000, problema seu! Se o caso não for previsto, problema seu! Uma coisa bem interessante. Se você pegar um ônibus, só tiver uma nota de 20 dolares e o sujeito não possuir troco, PROBLEMA SEU! As vinte pilas são do cara! 4) A estudante teve problemas para instalar o modem da operadora para acessar a internet: Novamente falta total de interesse para alguem que esteja inscrita em um curso on-line onde disposicao e praticamente 90% do pre-requisito para se atingir um bom nivel de aproveitamento e satisfacao; Como foi resolvido, era só ligar para a operadora... ignorância... 5) Eu estou extremamente frustrada. Eu quer voltar para a escola, mas preciso de um computador que me permita fazer isso: Realmente ela precisa nao somente de um computador que a permita fazer isso bem como pessoas que possa lhe auxiliar a utilizar o M$Windows bem como seus aplicativos haja visto o fim tragico do seu empreedimento e suas motivacoes: Concordo... 6) A Dell não se manifestou sobre o caso, disse a WKOW TV: No meu ver a Dell deveria sim se pronunciar ainda que venha a expor sua cliente a situacao ridicula e constrangedora. E trocar sua maquina por um sistema que ela tivesse condicoes de utilizar. As empresas dos EUA não estão muito preocupadas com casos particulares... Finalizando: A TV que anuncio o Causo foi extremamente infeliz, eu utilizo o Linux ja a alguns anos e na minha casa tenho uma maquina com boot duplo com o FC9 e Win2K e como incentivo a utilizacao do Linux por parte de meus filhos o acesso a internet e feito somente via Linux (vejam que interessante eles praticamente perderam o interesse o Win) Foi uma questao de estrategia e o dia em que eles se submeterem a um concurso ou emprego em que seja utilizado o Linux vao se lembrar da intransigencia do pai e dizer ainda bem que meu pai me forcou a aprender a utilizar o Linux. Aqui também é um caso de sucesso... Uso linux a 10 anos e forço todos que querem usar meu PC a usá-lo. Nunca houvi reclamações, só comparações do tipo ``Isso é aqui, aquilo é ali'', ``Onde inicio a web cam'' ou ``como inicio a conversa por voz''... A mudança leva a adaptação. Essa divulgação também se deve pela presença do Linux. Como já dito anteriormente, se o problema fosse o Windows, nada disso teria acontecido*... * Se o
Re: duvida
2009/1/17 Fabio Crivello binhocrive...@hotmail.com Boa Tarde! Meu nome é Fábio gostaria de uma ajuda. Comprei um notebook Acer Aspire 4520, e instalei o MS Windows em uma partição e tentei instalat o Debian Linux em outra. Porém ao tentar particionar a parte do disco reservada ao linux o sistema não me permitia deixar a partição de swap como partição lógica, somente como uma partição primária. terminei assim mesmo a instalação com o ambiente gráfico gnome, só que após reiniciar o sistema para entrar no linux aparecia um erro dizendo que havia uma falha de entrada e saida no servidor X. e so ficava no sistema basico não entrando o ambiente gráfico. Gostaria de saber se há algo que possam me ajudar para solucionar este problema. X --congifure :2 dpkg-reconfigure .. coisas assim... da uma procurada de como configurar o X no google ou clique abaixo http://www.google.com.br/search?q=configurando+X+debianie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a ah.. uma dica, ao mandar uma mensagem pra lista, coloque no assunto algo menos genérico, por exemplo, coloque Erro ao iniciar X .. coisas assim... Grato desde já, Fábio -- Notícias direto do New York Times, gols do Lance, videocassetadas e muitos outros vídeos no MSN Videos! Confira já! http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br -- Franz Gustav Niederheitmann -- Tudo aquilo que algum idiota diz que é urgente, é algo que algum imbecil não fez em tempo hábil e quer que você, o otário, se foda para fazer em tempo recorde!
Yet another list statistics for debian-user-portuguese
Hi, as you can read in my lightning talk at DebConf http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200808_lightning/ I did some investigation on who is frequently posting on our mailing lists. I now created graphs until end of last year and write a short summary for those lists I regard worth a comment. I'm not CCed to all of this list so if you want to discuss something please keep me in CC. If you want to discuss the results in general just write to debian-project. All graphs and the code that was used to create the graphs are available at http://people.debian.org/~tille/liststats/ If you are interested in a mailing list which was not analysed, just tell me. I was running the scripts on those lists I personally had some interest and those with more than 1000 subscribers. I plan to clean up code and write some doc about it but this will not happen in the next couple of weeks. The graph for this specific list is --- start of mailing list specific part -- http://people.debian.org/~tille/liststats/authorstat_user-portuguese.pdf Sorry for the English posting - I hope you are interested in the graph. Kind regards Andreas -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: duvida
2009/1/17 Fabio Crivello binhocrive...@hotmail.com:
Boa Tarde!
Meu nome é Fábio gostaria de uma ajuda.
Comprei um notebook Acer Aspire 4520, e instalei o MS Windows em uma
partição e tentei instalat o Debian Linux em outra. Porém ao tentar
particionar a parte do disco reservada ao linux o sistema não me permitia
deixar a partição de swap como partição lógica, somente como uma partição
primária. terminei assim mesmo a instalação com o ambiente gráfico gnome, só
que após reiniciar o sistema para entrar no linux aparecia um erro dizendo
que havia uma falha de entrada e saida no servidor X. e so ficava no sistema
basico não entrando o ambiente gráfico.
Gostaria de saber se há algo que possam me ajudar para solucionar este
problema.
Grato desde já,
Fábio
Notícias direto do New York Times, gols do Lance, videocassetadas e muitos
outros vídeos no MSN Videos! Confira já!
Fábio qual é a sua placa de vídeo? E poderia postar o erro, pois pelo
que você comentou pode ser n coisas.
--
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Joao Emanuel
Re: duvida
Qual a placa de vídeo?
o windows ainda sobe? Suponho que sim.
Vc instalou algum driver no linux?
Veja se consegue entrar no /etc/X11/xorg.conf e se as opções da placa e do
driver de vídeo estão ativas.
2009/1/17 Joao Emanuel joaoemanuel1...@gmail.com
2009/1/17 Fabio Crivello binhocrive...@hotmail.com:
Boa Tarde!
Meu nome é Fábio gostaria de uma ajuda.
Comprei um notebook Acer Aspire 4520, e instalei o MS Windows em uma
partição e tentei instalat o Debian Linux em outra. Porém ao tentar
particionar a parte do disco reservada ao linux o sistema não me permitia
deixar a partição de swap como partição lógica, somente como uma partição
primária. terminei assim mesmo a instalação com o ambiente gráfico gnome,
só
que após reiniciar o sistema para entrar no linux aparecia um erro
dizendo
que havia uma falha de entrada e saida no servidor X. e so ficava no
sistema
basico não entrando o ambiente gráfico.
Gostaria de saber se há algo que possam me ajudar para solucionar este
problema.
Grato desde já,
Fábio
Notícias direto do New York Times, gols do Lance, videocassetadas e
muitos
outros vídeos no MSN Videos! Confira já!
Fábio qual é a sua placa de vídeo? E poderia postar o erro, pois pelo
que você comentou pode ser n coisas.
--
{}s
Joao Emanuel
Re: Res: PIFAC - A prety interface for apt-cache.
Fala Pessoal, Sobre o 'aptitude', realmente eu desconhecia os comandos de busca e coisas do tipo pois sempre utilizei os 'obsoletos' apt-*. Realmente o formato de saída dele é bem melhor do que do 'apt-cache' no entanto ele não possui sistema de cores, o que eu gosto muito ! =P Sobre as dicas, responderei pelos números: 1) Tentei usar 'from X import Y' para evitar que a VM do Python carregue coisas desnecessárias e consuma mais tempo/memória. Como sou novo no mundo Python, não conheço todas as PEPs... =P 2) Evitei utilizar módulos de terceiros para permitir que o meu programa fosse utilizado por qualquer um que tenha somente o Python default instalado. O apt-* é obsoleto, aptitude faz tudo o que você disse. Basta saber usar corretamente. Cite-me uma fonte para isso. Ou talvez eu não entenda o que é um programa obsoleto. Um programa que ainda faz o que sempre fez, que é mantido por seus desenvolvedores e que ainda vem instalado por padrão em novos sistemas debian não é o que eu chamaria de obsoleto. Eu também não chamaria os aplicativos apt-* de obsoletos, pelos mesmos motivos citados acima... Abraços, -- Davi Vercillo Carneiro Garcia http://davivercillo.blogspot.com/ Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro Departamento de Ciência da Computação DCC-IM/UFRJ - http://www.dcc.ufrj.br Grupo de Usuários GNU/Linux da UFRJ (GUL-UFRJ) http://www.dcc.ufrj.br/~gul Linux User: #388711 http://counter.li.org/ A democracia muitas vezes significa o poder nas mãos de uma maioria incompetente. - Bernard Shaw Good things come to those who... wait. - Debian Project Theory is when you know something, but it doesn't work. Practice is when something works, but you don't know why. Programmers combine theory and practice: Nothing works and they don't know why. - Anon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian menu in K menu
On Fri,16.Jan.09, 17:36:25, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 2009 January 16 15:58:41 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon,05.Jan.09, 16:13:08, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: While installing .desktop files to the correct place(s) is good, installing a correct menu file is better. IMHO, the toplevel Debian menu is noise and should be deleted with it's contents moving to toplevel in the K menu. Unfortunately many Window Managers don't support .desktop files. That means the Debian menu system is not likely to disappear for a while. Read me again. I wasn't proposing it disappear, but rather be more integrated Sorry... into the system. Instead of: The KDE and Gnome maintainers don't seem to share your view (search the archives of debian-devel). They would rather have the Debian menu disappear. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: single Dhcp server on multiple networks
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:35:37PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: On Thu January 15 2009 13:28:19 Rod James Bio wrote: I was wondering if anyone had tried to configure a single linux dhcp server to give IP to different network. We have multiple networks here in our area and I am thinking of using a single dhcp server to serve all other networks. It works fine, e.g.: Did you have to setup VLANs on your switch to separate the networks, or use separate switches? How exactly does the server know to give our IPs for subnet-X to subnet-X instead of subnet-Y? Does the server have multiple NICs with different IPs on each?... or does it have a single NIC with multiple IPs assigned to it? - Ken -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Logging passwords of SSH attacks
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:25:35PM +0100, Florian Mickler wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:10:44 +0200 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I get a few thousands of these every day in the logs: Illegal users from: 70.85.222.106 (sales.gbdweb.com): 518 times anna/password: 1 time apache/password: 1 time arthur/password: 1 time attack/password: 1 time awharton/password: 1 time How can I start logging the passwords attempted as well as the usernames? Thanks. That's not possible without hacking in the ssh-sourcecodes, I assume. Or alternatively the pam module that is used. Openssh here checks passwords using PAM. It would be a security nightmare to have the passwords of users being logged. even if it would only be on failed attempts. And even then it owuld give some interesting clues, as it would also log real passwords with typos. people often confuse which password they have to enter where, and thus valid passwords would wander into the logs for malicous people to collect and use at other sites. auth.log is only readable to sysadmins. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: k3b brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 04:31:47PM +0100, Winfried Tilanus wrote: On 01/16/2009 Joerg Schilling wrote: Debian however is definitively in conflict with the Copyright law Jörg, this is a severe accusation. If it is true, then it calls for immediate action. So I ask you once again: please give us all juridical details, so we can judge the validity of this accusation ourselves and make work of stopping this violation. Maybe Jörg could comment on the below article: http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iptables/firestarter
On Fri January 16 2009, Jeff Soules wrote: Personally, I do this: Ensure that you have your firewall rules set up as you wish them. Then, edit /etc/network/interfaces to add the following: # Bring up firewall pre-up iptables-restore /etc/iptables.rules # And save fw state on shutdown post-down iptables-save -c /etc/iptables.rules a few people have mentioned this method, and it seems straight forward.. thanks, I set this up.. hopefully next year, when I reboot, it will update:) oh, wait, I gotta add a replacement drive soon.. brand-new Seagate Barracuda drive locked up and quit yesterd...@!!!@!!! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
transfer rate to usb key issue
Hi everyone, I've recently tried to use my usb flash drive to copy stuff on it. First, i discovered that letting usb-mount manage it, makes it dead slow (approx. 100KB/s). However, mounting it manually changed things, but not to what i expected: the transfer starts off okay (25MB/s) then suddenly pauses, more and more often, until the average transfer rates approaches 1MB/s, but barely progresses at all. My kernel is 2.6.26, same thing happens with 2.6.28. My distro is debian lenny, all updates installed. Anyone got the same issue? Have a nice week end!
Re: single Dhcp server on multiple networks
On Sat January 17 2009 02:44:09 Ken Teague wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:35:37PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote:
On Thu January 15 2009 13:28:19 Rod James Bio wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had tried to configure a single linux dhcp
server to give IP to different network. We have multiple networks here
in our area and I am thinking of using a single dhcp server to serve
all other networks.
It works fine, e.g.:
Did you have to setup VLANs on your switch to separate the networks, or use
separate switches?
VLANs work. Separate switches work. We normally use VLANs on switches
but separate NICs for each VLAN on servers.
How exactly does the server know to give our IPs for
subnet-X to subnet-X instead of subnet-Y? Does the server have multiple
NICs with different IPs on each?... or does it have a single NIC with
multiple IPs assigned to it?
A DHCP server with multiple NICs hands out DHCP leases in the subnets
associated with each NIC. The subnet is specified in dhcpd.conf, not
the NIC.
If you wanted to support multiple DHCP subnets on a single NIC you'd
probably have to use a static mapping for each MAC address to IP
address:
host foo {
hardware ethernet 01:23:45:67:89:ab;
fixed-address 192.168.99.99;
}
YMMV - I've never tried multiple DHCP subnets on a single NIC.
--Mike Bird
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Debian Gnome Keyboard shortcuts
Hi: I am using Debian Lenny, with Gnome Desktop. For certain applications (not all) the right arrow key does not move the selection from one menu option to another. Two examples: System -- Network has menus Connections, General, DNS and Hosts, and I am unable to move from one to the next one with the arrow key. System -- Preferences -- Keyboard has options General, Layouts, Accessibility, Mouse Key, Typing Break, and here to I am unable to move from one to the next with the arrow key. Anybody have any idea why this is so? Thanks. Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry Ohio Northern University Ada, OH 45810
Re: Retrieving a bios updater from ibm.com
Peter Crawford wrote: From: ch...@mretc.net Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:35:54 -0700 wget ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/spsdks45.exe Yes, direct FTP works in milliseconds. Thanks, ... p. crawford Peter, how will you run it? Do you have a Windows dual-boot on this machine? I just wiped out the Vista partition on my T61 by attempting a resize with gparted (Vista's own reisize feature wouldn't resize more than a few GB and no amount of fiddling with settings changed this). Therefore I'd like to know how BIOS updates can be done under Linux alone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: CMI8738 sound card - cannot hear sound in Lenny - SOLVED
On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 00:07 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
On Friday 16 January 2009 22:04, Robert Canner wrote:
I've unmuted the Synth control in alsamixer, but I still can't hear any
sound :-(
Alsamixer now shows:
Master = 100,100 (but no mute/unmute box is shown)
3D Control = unmuted
PCM, Synth, Line, CD, Aux = 100,100, unmuted
Line-In= Rear Output
Mic= 0, muted
Mic Boost = muted
Phone, PC Speaker = 100, unmuted
IEC958 {5V, Copyright, In Monitor,
In Phase Inverse, In Select, In Valid, Loop,
Mix Analog, Output} = unmuted
Exchange DAC, Four Channel Mode = unmuted
By the way, alsamixer is not displaying any mute/unmute box for the
Master control. Should I worry about this?
No. My alsamixer on lenny shows no mute/unmute box, but it's a different
soundcard (Audigy2 soundblaster), and my alsamixer version shows as 1.0.16.
My alsa-utils package is 1.0.16-2, and that provides alsamixer, and other
stuff.
(By comparison, the Wikipedia screenshot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alsamixer.png shows a mute/unmute box
for the Master control. My Lenny box is using alsamixer v1.0.13.)
That .png for alsamixer on the wiki is for a different soundcard than yours,
and all alsamixer controls are different, depending on your soundcard, so I'd
ignore that.
It doesn't help that I'm unfamiliar with your C media soundcard, so I'm a bit
in the dark. Are there any switches showing on your alsamixer? For example on
mine for the audigy2 soundblaster card there is a switch to change from
analogue to digital output. If this is set to digital, I get no sound, but
toggling it to analog brings the sounds up.
Perhaps you could post the output from running amixer on the CLI, just to see
what controls you have available.
Someone else who is also using a C media card on Lenny, may also have some
suggestions, that may resolve your problem.
Alternatively, there is the alsa-user mailing list, and someone there may
have
specific knowledge of known problems, and fixes for your card.
All the best.
Nigel.
Thanks Nigel, your clue about switches in alsamixer has done the trick.
I tried the following changes, testing each with speaker-test:
mute '3D Control' -- still no sound
change 'Line-In Mode' to 'Line In' -- still no sound
mute 'Exchange DAC' -- pink noise heard on earphones :-)
At this stage, CD playback was audible, but highly distorted. Curious
about 'Exchange DAC', I Googled and found
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/c-media-cmi8738-chipset-no-sound-267807/
which also mentioned deselecting 'IEC958 Output'. So in alsamixer I
tried muting 'IEC958 Output', which removed the distortion. Brilliant!
For the record, here's my amixer output after fixing the problem:
==
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 31 [100%]
Front Right: Playback 31 [100%]
Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 30 [97%] [on] Capture [off]
Front Right: Playback 30 [97%] [on] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Synth',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [on]
Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch cswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [on]
Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Line-In Mode',0
Capabilities: enum
Items: 'Line-In' 'Rear Output'
Item0: 'Rear Output'
Simple mixer control 'CD',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch cswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [on]
Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined cvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
cswitch cswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Capture channels: Mono
Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Capture 0 - 7
Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture 0 [0%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off] Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Phone',0
Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined
Re: Total Packages in Sid?
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 07:14:08PM -0600, Kumar Appaiah wrote: I wouldn't quite say that. It is difficult to put it that way, because several (most?) source packages produce several binary packages. For example, the source package libitpp produces binary packages libitpp-dev, libitpp6gf, libitpp6-dbg and libitpp-doc, all of which are being recounted. You would also recount multiple versions of several packages, like libraries (libnet0, libnet1 along with their *-dev packages). You also count several Debian native packages; while some of them (like ikiwiki) are generic, others (like dpkg) are Debian (derivative) specific. You have counted 67 packages which begin with iceweasel-l10n-. There are several such cases you have to look out for and decide whether to include in your search or not. As far as I can see, there isn't any unambiguous way by which you can arrive at an exact number, though you can estimate it if you account for the things I mention (and other problems). Here is set of numbers made available by FTP Master Joerg Jaspert in each flavour (experimental, stable, testing, proposed-updates etc.) http://ftp-master.debian.org/~joerg/pkg-nums Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
problem with USB cdc-acm
Hi, I am trying to connect a (serial) USB device to my asus eee pc 900 with Dedian. The device connects OK on my HP compaq 6910p with Suse 10.3: dmesg: usb 7-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 usb 7-1: new device found, idVendor=04d8, idProduct=000a usb 7-1: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 7-1: Product: PIC18 USB CDC usb 7-1: Manufacturer: Microchip usb 7-1: SerialNumber: V1.1FS usb 7-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. cdc_acm 7-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device so it should ánd can use cdc-acm on the eee pc (the cdc-acm module is installed): [ 216.648044] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 [ 216.704127] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 217.888078] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 [ 218.031991] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/all, error -71 [ 218.088093] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 219.128078] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 [ 219.277888] usb 2-1: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/all [ 219.277888] usb 2-1: can't read configurations, error -71 [ 219.336093] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 220.368043] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9 [ 220.424086] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 221.608071] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10 [ 221.750199] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/all, error -71 [ 221.808058] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 222.848077] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 12 [ 222.990081] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/all, error -71 [ 223.048063] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 224.088066] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 14 [ 224.144103] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 225.328076] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 15 [ 225.476010] usb 2-1: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -71 [ 225.476010] usb 2-1: chopping to 0 config(s) [ 225.483627] usb 2-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 225.491359] usb 2-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 225.499051] usb 2-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 225.499051] usb 2-1: no configuration chosen from 0 choices [ 225.499051] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=04d8, idProduct=000a [ 225.499051] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 225.499051] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 15 [ 226.568073] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 16 [ 226.710080] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/all, error -71 [ 226.768103] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 227.808075] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 18 [ 227.950081] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/all, error -71 [ 228.008095] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 229.068076] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 20 [ 229.125840] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 230.288075] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 21 [ 230.430184] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/all, error -71 [ 230.488094] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 231.528176] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 23 [ 231.670199] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/all, error -71 [ 231.728102] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 232.768075] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 25 [ 232.824102] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 234.008069] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 26 [ 234.150081] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/all, error -71 [ 234.208090] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 235.248078] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 28 [ 235.304101] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 236.488081] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 29 [ 236.638138] usb 2-1: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/all [ 236.638138] usb 2-1: can't read configurations, error -71 [ 236.696109] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 237.728077] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 31 [ 237.877946] usb 2-1: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/all [ 237.877946] usb 2-1: can't read configurations, error -71 [ 237.936107] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 238.968077] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 33 [ 239.024075] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 240.208067] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 34 [
Re: wireless gui configuration utility
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 07:53:50AM +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: sadly, wicd currently won't work with my wireless: broadcomm 4315 on presario CQ40-115AU. Perhaps i need a little tweaking or something, any idea? You can always rely on basic /etc/network/interface and swich manually. If this does not worrk, kernel or utility may be missing. (In my case kernel...) I am waiting ... Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kernel panic after Lenny update
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 08:54:32PM -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:59:29 + Vladimir Komendantsky komendant...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm sorry to tell you that today's package update cost me a system crash. The problem was with the package netatalk which was starting services at boot time. This resulted in a kernel panic. To repair this I booted the system in a single-user mode and removed netatalk and its few dependants. Best regards, V Sorry to hear that happened. You might want to post using reportbug utility included in debian about this. Yes... then you can prevent others hitting it if othrs installed apt-listbugs package. See http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#safeguardforpackageproblems -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Retrieving a bios updater from ibm.com
Andrew Malcolmson wrote: Peter, how will you run it? Do you have a Windows dual-boot on this machine? I just wiped out the Vista partition on my T61 by attempting a resize with gparted (Vista's own reisize feature wouldn't resize more than a few GB and no amount of fiddling with settings changed this). Therefore I'd like to know how BIOS updates can be done under Linux alone. The one update I've done (from Lenovo) came as a bootable ISO image. Just burn it to a CD, boot up from it, and run the BIOS update. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: tv/radio card
There are a lot of TV tuner cards that work in Linux, either with native drivers or with drivers like ivtv. I have a Debian Etch box running MythTV with two TV tuner cards in it, a Hauppauge PVR-350 and a Hauppauge PVR-150, both of which use the ivtv drivers. The PVR-350 supports MPEG encoding and decoding, so it can be used for recording and playback. It also comes with a remote control and IR sensor which work very well using lirc, and it has an on-board FM tuner which I have not personally used, but I believe does work under Linux. The PVR-150 is only an encoder and can only be used for recording. These two cards are fairly old, though, and I'm sure there are better options out there now. I have read a lot of Would you have any reason not to buy a PVR-350 card? Since from if I understand you correctly, it will both record and allow me to watch tv? Is this a usb or a card you put in your motherboard? The PVR-350 and PVR-150 are both internal PCI cards. In my experience, the PVR-350 works very well and would be a good choice if you need both recording and playback functionality. The encoder and decoder on the card are separate, which means you can record one show and watch an already-recorded show at the same time. With the PVR-150 in the box, I can simultaneously record two things and watch something else, which is really nice. I have been very happy with these cards, but they fell out of favor with the maintainers of MythTV a while ago because of the lack of vendor support for Linux. My understanding is that the first few versions of MythTV explicitly supported and recommended these cards, but in later versions they ran into some glitches while implementing new features, and Hauppauge would not provide any support for the cards under Linux. The ivtv drivers are generic drivers for the Conexant chipset used on the Hauppauge cards, so they aren't supported by the vendor. Nvidia came out with a series of hardware encoding/decoding chipsets and also provided native Linux drivers and support for them, so the MythTV devs started recommending those instead. I have only used the two Hauppauge cards, though, so I don't know much about the other options. Ok. If I got remote support working, would I be able to do most things just with the remote eg, change channel, adjust volume, and enable recording? Yes. If you are using lirc, you can create a config file which maps the buttons on the remote to functions in the software you are using. MythTV comes with a stock config for the Hauppauge remote, and I'm sure other such projects do as well. Channel selection, volume control, playback functions (play, pause, fast-forward, rewind, stop) all work. The MythTV forums might be a good place to look, since tuner cards are a big topic of discussion, and a lot of people mention other TV and radio programs, too. Cool I'll take a look. Thanks very much for the reply, No problem. - Dave
Re: CMI8738 sound card - cannot hear sound in Lenny - SOLVED
On Saturday 17 January 2009 16:37, Robert Canner wrote:
On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 00:07 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
On Friday 16 January 2009 22:04, Robert Canner wrote:
I've unmuted the Synth control in alsamixer, but I still can't hear any
sound :-(
Alsamixer now shows:
Master = 100,100 (but no mute/unmute box is shown)
3D Control = unmuted
PCM, Synth, Line, CD, Aux = 100,100, unmuted
Line-In= Rear Output
Mic= 0, muted
Mic Boost = muted
Phone, PC Speaker = 100, unmuted
IEC958 {5V, Copyright, In Monitor,
In Phase Inverse, In Select, In Valid, Loop,
Mix Analog, Output} = unmuted
Exchange DAC, Four Channel Mode = unmuted
By the way, alsamixer is not displaying any mute/unmute box for the
Master control. Should I worry about this?
No. My alsamixer on lenny shows no mute/unmute box, but it's a different
soundcard (Audigy2 soundblaster), and my alsamixer version shows as
1.0.16. My alsa-utils package is 1.0.16-2, and that provides alsamixer,
and other stuff.
(By comparison, the Wikipedia screenshot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alsamixer.png shows a mute/unmute box
for the Master control. My Lenny box is using alsamixer v1.0.13.)
That .png for alsamixer on the wiki is for a different soundcard than
yours, and all alsamixer controls are different, depending on your
soundcard, so I'd ignore that.
It doesn't help that I'm unfamiliar with your C media soundcard, so I'm a
bit in the dark. Are there any switches showing on your alsamixer? For
example on mine for the audigy2 soundblaster card there is a switch to
change from analogue to digital output. If this is set to digital, I get
no sound, but toggling it to analog brings the sounds up.
Perhaps you could post the output from running amixer on the CLI, just to
see what controls you have available.
Someone else who is also using a C media card on Lenny, may also have
some suggestions, that may resolve your problem.
Alternatively, there is the alsa-user mailing list, and someone there may
have specific knowledge of known problems, and fixes for your card.
All the best.
Nigel.
Thanks Nigel, your clue about switches in alsamixer has done the trick.
I tried the following changes, testing each with speaker-test:
mute '3D Control' -- still no sound
change 'Line-In Mode' to 'Line In' -- still no sound
mute 'Exchange DAC' -- pink noise heard on earphones :-)
At this stage, CD playback was audible, but highly distorted. Curious
about 'Exchange DAC', I Googled and found
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/c-media-cmi8738-
chipset-no-sound-267807/ which also mentioned deselecting 'IEC958 Output'.
So in alsamixer I tried muting 'IEC958 Output', which removed the
distortion. Brilliant!
For the record, here's my amixer output after fixing the problem:
snip
Once again, many thanks,
Robert
Hi Robert.
Great that the problem is resolved, and happy to have helped. Keep a written
note of the fixes, as you may need them again.
All the best, and enjoy the sounds.
Nigel.
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[OT] Cross-Compiler tool chain
Hey guys, I've been reading up quite a bit on cross-compiling. The basic idea is that we need to set up a GNU toolchain for a specific architecture that we want to build on. Based on my research there are several tools that do this automatically: 1. Crosstool - looks to be outdated 2. Scratchbox - Fairly up to date. 3. Buildroot Then of course there is the excellent Cross Linux From Scatch (CFLS). I just wanted to know what your experiences are with building a toolchain and if there any tools you prefer over the other. Thanks, Amit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wireless gui configuration utility
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:53:50 +0800 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: sadly, wicd currently won't work with my wireless: broadcomm 4315 on presario CQ40-115AU. Perhaps i need a little tweaking or something, any idea? One thing that needs to be done with wicd is point it at the right wireless interface. It changes between modules so check what yours creates (ifconfig -a) and point wicd to the right place (in the gui configuration) For example for my atheros card the ath5k modules creates wlan0 and madwifi creates ath0 2009/1/17 Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org:: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 02:56:03PM +, thveillon.debian wrote: +1 for wicd, with atheros chips (and ath5k driver) and wpa it has performed very well. During the past release of *buntu 8.10 *NetworkManager has gone crazy on many wireless chips, especially atheros, and since then wicd has gained a good reputation there too. It's in Sid/Unstable. OK. Interesting. I will mention this in Debian Reference... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
aptitude freezes after install
I upgraded from Etch to Lenny yesterday. Now aptitude isn't behaving properly. When I enter a single command at the command line, like: aptitude install xawtv it works fine. If I just enter 'aptitude' to start the full-screen (ncurses?) version, when it completes an install it stops responding to the keyboard. I can abort using CTRL-C, but nothing else seems to work. Advice? Rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
OpenOffice Calc
I've upgraded from Etch to Lenny. Today I'm working on a spreadsheet and notice that when I copy a cell, to paste somewhere else, that there is a border put around the cell I copy. I go into Format Cells = Borders to try getting rid of the border that has been placed around the cell. The border does not go away. To remove the border I must click on Default Formatting which, of course, removes the number formatting for that cell. Then I must go back and replace the number formatting that I want for the cell I copied. Nothing else seems to undo (even Undo) the border put around the copied cell. -- Raquel http://www.byraquel.com There is an idea abroad among moral people that they should make their neighbors good. One person I have to make good: Myself. But my duty to my neighbor is much more nearly expressed by saying that I have to make him happy if I may. --Robert Louis Stevenson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OpenOffice Calc
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:20:25 -0800, Raquel (raq...@thericehouse.net) wrote: I've upgraded from Etch to Lenny. Today I'm working on a spreadsheet and notice that when I copy a cell, to paste somewhere else, that there is a border put around the cell I copy. I go into Format Cells = Borders to try getting rid of the border that has been placed around the cell. The border does not go away. To remove the border I must click on Default Formatting which, of course, removes the number formatting for that cell. Then I must go back and replace the number formatting that I want for the cell I copied. Nothing else seems to undo (even Undo) the border put around the copied cell. Press the escape key? -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. Please reply to the list only. Do NOT send copies directly to me. Debian on the NSLU2: http://bobcox.com/slug/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OpenOffice Calc
On Saturday 2009 January 17 14:20:25 Raquel wrote: I've upgraded from Etch to Lenny. Today I'm working on a spreadsheet and notice that when I copy a cell, to paste somewhere else, that there is a border put around the cell I copy. It goes away next time you copy. It's just a visual indicator of what the clipboard contents are. IIRC, it will also go away if you close OO.org Calc and reopen the file. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
apt-get upgrade error: package `coreutils' contains empty filename ?
I've been unable to upgrade my debian machine for months now, just getting around to trying to fix it. ~$ uname -a Linux NSLUG 2.6.18-6-ixp4xx #1 Tue Feb 12 00:57:53 UTC 2008 armv5tel GNU/Linux I've had some luck with these instructions: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/07/msg03322.html I had to remove the files in /var/cache/debconf, so now all of the perl errors are gone, but the dpkg upgrade still fails. # apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages have been kept back: openssh-client openssh-server The following packages will be upgraded: avahi-daemon bind9-host cpio dbus debconf debconf-i18n dnsutils dpkg dselect initramfs-tools initscripts libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-compat-howl0 libavahi-core4 libbind9-0 libc6 libcupsys2 libdbus-1-3 libdns22 libfreetype6 libgnutls13 libisc11 libisccc0 libisccfg1 libkrb53 liblwres9 libpcre3 libssl0.9.8 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3 linux-image-2.6.18-6-ixp4xx locales mt-daapd mtr-tiny ntpdate openssl perl perl-base perl-modules python2.4 python2.4-minimal reportbug rsync samba samba-common samba-doc selinux-policy-refpolicy-targeted smbclient smbfs swat sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-utils tzdata winbind 58 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/58.5MB of archives. After unpacking 774kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Extracting templates from packages: 100% Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.13.26_arm.deb (--unpack): files list file for package `coreutils' contains empty filename Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.13.26_arm.deb Processing was halted because there were too many errors. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Thanks in advance, Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: apt-get upgrade error: package `coreutils' contains empty filename ?
On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 21:33 +0100, Eric Higgins wrote: # apt-get upgrade ... Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.13.26_arm.deb (--unpack): files list file for package `coreutils' contains empty filename Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.13.26_arm.deb Processing was halted because there were too many errors. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Try to remove /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.13.26_arm.deb and try again with: aptitude update aptitude safe-upgrade Best, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
problem with usb ports
Hi everybody, I have Debian linux server with next kernel: Linux debian-tax 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-amd64. Some weeks ago I have expanded memory in this computer (512-1024MB). Unfortunately, I get the next message: usb 2-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 20 and I can't use the USB port. The pendrive and external winchester does not work. What is the problem? P.s: My English not to good. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: problem with usb ports
On Saturday 17 January 2009 22:15:58 Engi Zoltán wrote: Hi everybody, I have Debian linux server with next kernel: Linux debian-tax 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-amd64. Some weeks ago I have expanded memory in this computer (512-1024MB). Unfortunately, I get the next message: usb 2-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 20 and I can't use the USB port. The pendrive and external winchester does not work. What is the problem? P.s: My English not to good. I don't see the relation between memory and usb. Can you try to remove the added memory stick and tell us if there is any change? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: aptitude freezes after install
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 01:51:13PM -0500, microwaverich richg...@one.net was heard to say: I upgraded from Etch to Lenny yesterday. Now aptitude isn't behaving properly. When I enter a single command at the command line, like: aptitude install xawtv it works fine. If I just enter 'aptitude' to start the full-screen (ncurses?) version, when it completes an install it stops responding to the keyboard. I can abort using CTRL-C, but nothing else seems to work. Advice? No, but I'm curious what your hardware / software configuration is. I've been trying to figure out this bug for over a year now, and I can't figure out why just a few systems show it. If you're up to running some historical versions to see where the bug was introduced, we could try pulling old packages from snapshot.debian.net. For starters, maybe these: Version 0.4.5.3-1: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/06/18/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/ Version 0.4.7-1: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/10/31/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/ Version 0.4.10-1: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/12/17/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/ Version 0.4.11-2: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2008/03/17/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/ Some of these will also need libcwidget1, which you can find here: libcwidget1: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2008/04/13/debian/pool/main/c/cwidget/ Thanks, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Logging passwords of SSH attacks
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:44:38 + Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote: people often confuse which password they have to enter where, and thus valid passwords would wander into the logs for malicous people to collect and use at other sites. auth.log is only readable to sysadmins. sarcasm oh what a wonderful world /sarcasm The only way to prevent misuse of such information is to _not_ _log_ _it_. If you really need to satisfy your curiosity hack the sources or look at 'john' or something like that. Sincerely signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Re: transfer rate to usb key issue
2009/1/17 Laurent olo...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, I've recently tried to use my usb flash drive to copy stuff on it. First, i discovered that letting usb-mount manage it, makes it dead slow (approx. 100KB/s). However, mounting it manually changed things, but not to what i expected: the transfer starts off okay (25MB/s) then suddenly pauses, more and more often, until the average transfer rates approaches 1MB/s, but barely progresses at all. My kernel is 2.6.26, same thing happens with 2.6.28. My distro is debian lenny, all updates installed. Anyone got the same issue? Have a nice week end! I have seen a similar issue when transferring to micro SD cards, transfer seems to plateau out at between 300-500kB/s. Especially prevalent with large sustained transfers. I assumed it was the flash cards because it didn't matter if I used the laptops built in card reader or a usb trans-flash adapter, Now I'm starting to think it's an inherent problem with flash memory alltogether. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? erno hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
having DHCP use name server from PPP connection?
Can dhcpd be configured to pass on (to DHCP clients on a local, private (NATted) network) the DHCP server machine's current domain name server addresses (given to the machine by PPP (etc.))? I see how to hard-code name servers in /etc/dhcpd.conf with the domain-name-servers statement. However, I don't yet see how to have dhcpd report whichever name servers are listed in /etc/resolve.conf (put there by PPP's /etc/dhcpd.conf). (What does dhcpd give to clients if there is no domain-name-servers statement? The documentation I've seen (dhcpd, dhcpd.conf manual pages; Sarge version) doesn't seem to say.) Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel B. d...@smart.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: k3b brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X
Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote: Maybe Jörg could comment on the below article: http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ Let me answer as quick as your question was: Everything starting with the word Unfortunately in this article is plain FUD. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian menu in K menu
Am 2009-01-17 11:13:42, schrieb Andrei Popescu: The KDE and Gnome maintainers don't seem to share your view (search the archives of debian-devel). They would rather have the Debian menu disappear. But since KDE and Gnome sucks and there are MANY WM-Only user, menu will never disappear... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # http://www.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
mounting two disks on the same mount point (not at the same time)
I have a couple of USB disks that I use for backups. I rotate them so only one is attached at the same time. I have a nightly cron that mirrors the directories of interest onto whichever one is attached using rsync. I'd like to mount whichever one is attached at the same mount point, without having to specify the device. For example, rather than: $ mount /dev/disk/by-id/usb-ST316002_1A_DEF107679C83-0:0-part1 /mnt/backup I'd like to say: $ mount /mnt/backup The latter works for whichever is specified first in /etc/fstab, but not the other one. They are both *usually* the only USB disk attached, so they both appear as /dev/sdc1, but I don't really want to depend on that. Is this possible? Thanks, Reid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Can't start X after upgrade to Lenny
I decided that it was time to upgrade to Lenny so that I could use Firefox 3 since I have heard that might eliminate some of the lockups that I have been having. My box has a PC Chips K8 motherboard with SiS 760GX/964 Chipset and an Athlon XP 800+ CPU. This is what I have done: changed my etc/apt/sources.list to point to Lenny ran aptitude update ran aptitude install dpkg apt aptitude ran aptitude safe-upgrade I had to run this several times before it completed without errors and showed no packages still to be upgraded ran aptitude full-upgrade had to uninstall wine and sane to get this to run without errors ran startx got the following errors: (II) Module ddc already built-in (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0) (II) Module ddc already built-in Emulator asked to make a suspect byte access to port 4 (0x0004); terminating. Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x7e) [0x80c91ce] 1: [0xe420] 2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so(x_outb+0x57) [0xb7b21f17] 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so [0xb7b291d4] 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so(X86EMU_exec+0xab) [0xb7b3871b] 5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so(xf86ExecX86int10+0x55) [0xb7b2ece5] 6: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so(VBESaveRestore+0xb5) [0xb7f2ece5] 7: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so [0xb7b17a8f] 8: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so [0xb7b1866e] 9: /usr/bin/X(AddScreen+0x1f7) [ox8073db7] 10: /usr/bin/X(InitOutput+0x236) [0x8073db7] 11: /usr/bin/X(main+0x2b1) [0x8074591] 12: /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0xb7cec455] 13: /usr/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x21d) [0x8073a81] Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting giving up. xinit: Connection reset by peer (errno 104): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Any help in getting X to run will be greatly appreciated. I am hoping that this is just a question of a manual config change, but I don't know enough about X configs to know where to start. Is there a known current problem with wine and sane? Wine is probably not much of an issue, but without sane my scanner is not going to function. Thanks for any help. Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Yet another list statistics for debian-user
Hi, as you can read in my lightning talk at DebConf http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200808_lightning/ I did some investigation on who is frequently posting on our mailing lists. I now created graphs until end of last year and write a short summary for those lists I regard worth a comment. I'm not CCed to all of this list so if you want to discuss something please keep me in CC. If you want to discuss the results in general just write to debian-project. All graphs and the code that was used to create the graphs are available at http://people.debian.org/~tille/liststats/ If you are interested in a mailing list which was not analysed, just tell me. I was running the scripts on those lists I personally had some interest and those with more than 1000 subscribers. I plan to clean up code and write some doc about it but this will not happen in the next couple of weeks. The graph for this specific list is --- start of mailing list specific part -- http://people.debian.org/~tille/liststats/authorstat_user.pdf Who are the Johnson brothers??? ;-) Kind regards Andreas -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help needed
lakshmi pathi lakshmipath...@gmail.com: My ext3 undelete tool works well with Redhat/Fedora/Ubuntu. I would like to get feedback on it on debian distro. (Are you able to install the tool? Whether it is working ? etc...) Why not just download and burn Debian LiveCD and try it yourself? The undelete tool can downloaded from here www.giis.co.in or from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/giis -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Please send me a lifeline
Jesse Taylor distruction@gmail.com: I have been trying to convert over to Debian for some time now but I have a few issues that I cannot fix by myself. I am using Etch and have used Sarge but I cannot get online media to play. everything is set up for mediaplayer or a flash player. Meaning this works (hardware-wise) in another OS? I am not skilled at command line use to understand what I need to do to load a program from a non-debian package. If I had detailed instruction on what I need to do I could try. The output of lspci lspci.txt is useful. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: aptitude freezes after install
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 01:51:13PM -0500, microwaverich richg...@one.net was heard to say: I upgraded from Etch to Lenny yesterday. Now aptitude isn't behaving properly. When I enter a single command at the command line, like: aptitude install xawtv it works fine. If I just enter 'aptitude' to start the full-screen (ncurses?) version, when it completes an install it stops responding to the keyboard. I can abort using CTRL-C, but nothing else seems to work. Advice? No, but I'm curious what your hardware / software configuration is. I've been trying to figure out this bug for over a year now, and I can't figure out why just a few systems show it. If you're up to running some historical versions to see where the bug was introduced, we could try pulling old packages from snapshot.debian.net. For starters, maybe these: Version 0.4.5.3-1: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/06/18/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/ Version 0.4.7-1: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/10/31/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/ Version 0.4.10-1: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/12/17/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/ Version 0.4.11-2: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2008/03/17/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/ Some of these will also need libcwidget1, which you can find here: libcwidget1: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2008/04/13/debian/pool/main/c/cwidget/ Thanks, Daniel Daniel: I don't know if I'm up to it, but I'd love to give it a go. Here's some possibly relevant info about my system. Let me know if you need more. Processor: 1.8 GHz AMD Athlon XP 2200+ Total Memory: 1 GB The problem occurs with both kernels 2.6.18-6-K7 and 2.6..26-1-686. As I stated originally, it did not happen with Etch (using 2.6.18.6-K7), but it does happen with Lenny using that same kernel. I had done the upgrade by: 1. following the recommended Preparing for the next release steps (remove obsolete packages, get rid of /etc/network/options, etc.) 2. changed /etc/apt/sources.list settings from 'etch' to 'lenny' (I use ftp.us.debian.org) 3. run: aptitude update aptitude install apt aptitude install dpkg aptitude install aptitude aptitude dist-upgrade They all seemed to work fine except: X didn't work, and I found I had to run: aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nv When I found that aptitude froze after an install in ncurses mode, I ran: aptitude autoclean aptitude reinstall apt aptitude reinstall dpkg aptitude reinstall aptitude but that didn't help. If I understand you correctly, I should try installing the above aptitudes (in reverse order?) and then installing some other package (any package?). Rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mounting two disks on the same mount point (not at the same time)
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Reid Priedhorsky wrote:
I have a couple of USB disks that I use for backups. I rotate them so only
one is attached at the same time. I have a nightly cron that mirrors the
directories of interest onto whichever one is attached using rsync.
I'd like to mount whichever one is attached at the same mount point,
without having to specify the device. For example, rather than:
$ mount /dev/disk/by-id/usb-ST316002_1A_DEF107679C83-0:0-part1 /mnt/backup
I'd like to say:
$ mount /mnt/backup
The latter works for whichever is specified first in /etc/fstab, but not
the other one.
They are both *usually* the only USB disk attached, so they both appear as
/dev/sdc1, but I don't really want to depend on that.
Is this possible?
Thanks,
Reid
How about putting something like this in a shell script and just calling
that?
for DiskID in DISKID1 DISKID2 ; do
if [ -b /dev/disk/by-id/${DiskID} ] ; then
echo mounting disk $DiskID
mount /dev/disk/by-id/${DiskID} /mnt/backup
fi
done
Jeff
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Exim4 -- Postfix. /etc/exim4/passwd.client -- ?
My ISP insists I use my login passwd to talk to its smtp server. Where do I do that in Postfix? Thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mounting two disks on the same mount point (not at the same time)
On Sat January 17 2009, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: I'd like to mount whichever one is attached at the same mount point, without having to specify the device. For example, rather than: use mount by-uuid , it is specific to each device.. you can put the lines in fstab like this: /dev/disk/by-uuid/686C-7E81 /media/usb_DAWGS vfat users,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,no -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
