Re: repo gpg keys list

2009-02-23 Thread Magnus Therning
T o n g wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed that the gpg keys were updated for repos, but I didn't wrote it 
> down before reboot. Anyway to list them now?

Not sure I understand what you mean, but possibly this is what you are
looking for:

 # apt-key list

/M

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Re: Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-02-23 23:23 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

> I have noticed that Iceweasel (i.e., firefox, version 3.06 under
> debian sid) does not display the graphics from Wikipedia, although as
> far as I can tell images from all other websites are shown
> correctly. That is, instead of the images on a page like
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama
>
> one sees only blank white areas.

What is the value of permissions.default.image in about:config ?  If it
is set to 3, Iceweasel will only load images from the same server as the
website, which reduces advertising but also the usability of Wikipedia.

See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Permissions.default.image for more
information.

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Re: Recommended TrueType fonts

2009-02-23 Thread Bob Cox
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 07:10:06 +, T o n g (mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com) 
wrote: 

> On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:00:22 -0500, H.S. wrote:
> 
> >> PS. I used to have Lucida TrueType fonts. They looked pretty good and I
> >> use them all over my applications. Which package provides them? I don't
> >> think I've installed sun-java6-fonts though (Maybe it is called
> >> something different previously?)
> >> 
> > (not sure why I get different results with aptitude and apt-cache)
> 
> Indeed!
> 
> > $> aptitude search lucida
> > v   ttf-lucida   -
> > $> apt-cache search lucida
> > sun-java5-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
> > sun-java6-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
> 
> How to get info for this ttf-lucida?
> 
> apt-cache show ttf-lucida ?

No.

b...@trantor:~$ aptitude show ttf-lucida
Package: ttf-lucida
State: not a real package
Provided by: sun-java5-fonts, sun-java6-fonts

b...@trantor:~$ apt-file search ttf-lucida
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaBrightDemiBold.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaBrightDemiItalic.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaBrightItalic.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaBrightRegular.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaSansDemiBold.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaSansDemiOblique.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaSansOblique.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaSansRegular.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaTypewriterBold.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaTypewriterOblique.ttf
sun-java5-fonts: 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaTypewriterRegular.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaBrightDemiBold.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaBrightDemiItalic.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaBrightItalic.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaBrightRegular.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaSansDemiBold.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaSansDemiOblique.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaSansOblique.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaSansRegular.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaTypewriterBold.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaTypewriterOblique.ttf
sun-java6-fonts: 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida/LucidaTypewriterRegular.ttf


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Re: Recommended TrueType fonts

2009-02-23 Thread T o n g
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:00:22 -0500, H.S. wrote:

>> PS. I used to have Lucida TrueType fonts. They looked pretty good and I
>> use them all over my applications. Which package provides them? I don't
>> think I've installed sun-java6-fonts though (Maybe it is called
>> something different previously?)
>> 
> (not sure why I get different results with aptitude and apt-cache)

Indeed!

> $> aptitude search lucida
> v   ttf-lucida   -
> $> apt-cache search lucida
> sun-java5-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
> sun-java6-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)

How to get info for this ttf-lucida?

apt-cache show ttf-lucida ?

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repo gpg keys list

2009-02-23 Thread T o n g
Hi,

I noticed that the gpg keys were updated for repos, but I didn't wrote it 
down before reboot. Anyway to list them now?

thanks

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Re: mediawiki-extensions - package... strongly suspect bug, wonder about adv. of deb packages...

2009-02-23 Thread John W Foster
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 23:14 +0100, Michael Bonert wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> Thanks. ( http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/02/msg01426.html )
> I did get one module working (Cite.php).  
> 
> Above said, I have the impression that there is an incompatibility, between 
> the
> 'mediawiki-extensions' package and 'mediawiki' in the stable branch.  I cannot
> confirm this... as I cannot find the upstream version information for the 
> 'mediawiki-extensions (1.4)' package ( 
> http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/mediawiki-extensions ).
> 
> However, I note that 'sid' and 'squeeze (testing)' use the '1:1.13.3' branch 
> of mediawiki.  I'm quite certain the error I'm getting (see below) arises 
> from a packaging problem in Debian, i.e. Debian package 'mediawiki' 
> (1:1.12.0-2lenny2) is not compatible with 'mediawiki-extensions' (1.4), as 
> mediawiki-extensions (1.4) appears to be derived from extension in the 1.13 
> branch of mediawiki.
> 
> I know that Mediawiki ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ) specifies 
> that the version of
> the extensions has to match the program, e.g. Mediawiki version 1.12 has to 
> use the extensions
> for version 1.12.  I note that there has been a previous bug, which appears 
> to be related to
> this very issue -- based on the changelog 
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/mediawiki-extensions/mediawiki-extensions_1.4/changelog
>  -- see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473785 .
> 
> I'm having problems with the ParserFunction extension (see error message 
> below).
> 
> My set-up --
> 
> Versions:
> mediawiki: 1:1.12.0-2lenny2
> mediawiki-extensions: 1.4
This is most likely not going to work well if at all.

> 
> -
> As for a fix... 
> I think that the 'mediawiki-extensions' package should be clearly 'mediawiki' 
> version dependent, i.e.
> there ought to be a package 'mediawiki-extensions 1.12-1' (for mediawiki 
> version 1.12) and a package 'mediawiki 1.13-1' (for mediawiki version 1.13).
Mediawiki is a fairly new addition to Debian, so you may want to converse with 
the package maintainer.
> -
> 
> In any case, what are the advantages of using Debian's packages for mediawiki?
> -I've had the impression it would ease upgrading... but I'm uncertain about 
> that.
> -I've had the impression that I'd get security updates quickly...
Not worth the effort. In my opinion your better off 'rolling your own'!
> 
> Currently, I'm seeing some disadvantages...
> -more limited documentation (see 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/02/msg01271.html 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516693 )
> -possible additional bugs (see above)
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> Error message:
> -
> array(2) { ["LanguageGetMagic"]=>  array(1) { [0]=>  string(33) 
> "wfParserFunctionsLanguageGetMagic" } ["ParserClearState"]=>  array(2) { 
> [0]=>  array(2) { [0]=>  &NULL [1]=>  string(10) "clearState" } [1]=>  
> array(2) { [0]=>  &object(Cite)#19 (6) { ["mRefs"]=>  array(0) { } 
> ["mOutCnt"]=>  int(0) ["mInCnt"]=>  int(0) ["mBacklinkLabels"]=>  NULL 
> ["mParser"]=>  NULL ["mInCite"]=>  bool(false) } [1]=>  string(10) 
> "clearState" } } } array(2) { ["LanguageGetMagic"]=>  array(1) { [0]=>  
> string(33) "wfParserFunctionsLanguageGetMagic" } ["ParserClearState"]=>  
> array(2) { [0]=>  array(2) { [0]=>  &NULL [1]=>  string(10) "clearState" } 
> [1]=>  array(2) { [0]=>  &object(Cite)#19 (6) { ["mRefs"]=>  array(0) { } 
> ["mOutCnt"]=>  int(0) ["mInCnt"]=>  int(0) ["mBacklinkLabels"]=>  NULL 
> ["mParser"]=>  NULL ["mInCite"]=>  bool(false) } [1]=>  string(10) 
> "clearState" } } } MediaWiki internal error.
You may need to check to see that your php settings are compatible with the 
mediawiki you are using.

> Original exception: exception 'MWException' with message 'Unknown datatype in 
> hooks for ParserClearState
> ' in /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Hooks.php:85
> Stack trace:
> #0 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Parser.php(230): 
> wfRunHooks('ParserClearStat...', Array)
> #1 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Parser.php(266): Parser->clearState()
> #2 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/OutputPage.php(369): Parser->parse('This 
> page has b...', Object(Title), Object(ParserOptions), true, true, NULL)
> #3 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(573): 
> OutputPage->parse('This page has b...', true, true)
> #4 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/SkinTemplate.php(315): 
> wfMsgExt('viewcount', Array, '14')
> #5 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/OutputPage.php(595): 
> SkinTemplate->outputPage(Object(OutputPage))
> #6 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Wiki.php(250): OutputPage->output()
> #7 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/index.php(124): MediaWiki->finalCleanup(Array, 
> Object(LoadBalancer), Object(OutputPage))
> #8 {main}
A word of advice: only enable the extensions NEEDED and then only one at a 
time. They are much easier to debug if you do that.

> Exception caught inside exception handler: exception 'MWException' wit

Re: OT: file system versus databases

2009-02-23 Thread Robert Baron
If it works for you, why change?

Lets face it not every problem needs a relational database, if you do not
need
atomic transactions and crash recovery as examples of what a DBMS system
will do better than file systems.  Furthermore, you may be able to save some
space by eliminating redunent information either in the path (can the same
name be associated with 2 different countries), or in the files.

rob.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Mag Gam  wrote:

> I was curious why this was faster:
>
> At our company we store close to 50TB of  certain transaction data and
> we stored it on a UNIX filesystem raw without any DBMS help.
>
> For example:
> country/A/name/A.txt
> country/B/name/B.txt
> country/C/name/C.txt
> and so on...
> We have close to 500 million entries in this format.
>
>
> When we do a read() on a file, its very fast and we enjoy it. Would we
> get a similar performance if we use a database and index it?
>
> TIA
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Re: What is the relationship between debian maillist and google groups?

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/24/2009 12:11 AM, Mr. Wang Long wrote:

Dear all,

I'm confused by the relationship between debian-user@lists.debian.org


That's the *address* of the mailing list.


and http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user :


That's a Google Groups version of the Usenet bi-directional gateway 
to the mailing list.



In http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ I found the maillist is not
moderated, but in
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/about what I found is
"debian-user@lists.debian.org (Moderated)". So who is moderating this
maillist in google group? Thanks!


Don't know that.

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Re: Wireless Setup Problem

2009-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:51:24 -0700 (MST)
Robert Holtzman  wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Stackpole, Chris wrote:
> 
> >>
>  http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
> >>
> >> The OP said he's running Debian, so just 'aptitude install wicd'
> >
> > If he is running Squeeze or Sid, then yes. If he is running Lenny or
> > older, he needs that link or this one.
> > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/wicd
> 
> On my etchnhalf system "apt-get update says that line is malformed.

It's not an apt.sources line, it's just a link to the package page,
from where it can be downloaded manually.

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Re: Recommended TrueType fonts

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 11:01 PM, T o n g wrote:

Hi,

I want to install a minimum set of TrueType fonts.


Why?  Why not a big (not huge, but big) set from a variety of 
Western and Eastern fonts?


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Re: OT: file system versus databases

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 10:28 PM, Mag Gam wrote:

I was curious why this was faster:

At our company we store close to 50TB of  certain transaction data and
we stored it on a UNIX filesystem raw without any DBMS help.


This doesn't sound very Linuxy...


For example:
country/A/name/A.txt
country/B/name/B.txt
country/C/name/C.txt
and so on...
We have close to 500 million entries in this format.


When we do a read() on a file, its very fast and we enjoy it. Would we
get a similar performance if we use a database and index it?


RDBMSs are complex.  *Very* complex.  And they have to perform a 
whole lot of different tasks.


Simple sequential reads thru a text file, though, should always be 
faster than a similar DB tablespace because of, if nothing else, the 
host's cache.


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RE: Wireless Setup Problem

2009-02-23 Thread Robert Holtzman

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Stackpole, Chris wrote:




http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php


The OP said he's running Debian, so just 'aptitude install wicd'


If he is running Squeeze or Sid, then yes. If he is running Lenny or
older, he needs that link or this one.
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/wicd


On my etchnhalf system "apt-get update says that line is malformed.

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What is the relationship between debian maillist and google groups?

2009-02-23 Thread Mr. Wang Long
Dear all,

I'm confused by the relationship between debian-user@lists.debian.org
and http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user :
In http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ I found the maillist is not
moderated, but in
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/about what I found is
"debian-user@lists.debian.org (Moderated)". So who is moderating this
maillist in google group? Thanks!

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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 09:02 PM, Celejar wrote:
[snip]


You *are* aware that while neither User-Agent nor X-Mailer is part of a
standard, X-Mailer is much more common? X-Mailer makes it into RFC
2076, albeit as non-standard, while User-Agent doesn't; it's apparently
a pretty new-fangled thing cooked up by browser based emailers, or
perhaps derived from newsgroups:



Hup.  Also have X-Mailer.

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Re: Recommended TrueType fonts

2009-02-23 Thread H.S.
T o n g wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to install a minimum set of TrueType fonts. Which are ther 
> recommended good ones? 
> 
> My current selections are:
> 
>  ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-core ttf-dejavu-extra
> 
> But I've forgot why. Any recommended web pages that I can refer to?
> 
> PS. I used to have Lucida TrueType fonts. They looked pretty good and I 
> use them all over my applications. Which package provides them? I don't 
> think I've installed sun-java6-fonts though (Maybe it is called something 
> different previously?)
> 
> Thanks
> 

(not sure why I get different results with aptitude and apt-cache)

$> aptitude search lucida
v   ttf-lucida   -
$> apt-cache search lucida
sun-java5-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
sun-java6-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)


Others that may be interesting are:
ttf-gentium
ttf-inconsolata
ttf-liberation
ttf-unifont
ttf-xfree86-nonfree


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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 08:43 PM, Javier wrote:
[snip]



As I also have read in the Wikipedia, it is reseonable to crack a 56bits
DES, a 64bits AES if you have online access to the machine, and probably
in the future it might be possible to crack a 128bits, even offline.
But, a 256 one? It seems incredible to me. 2^256 is this number:


115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936

which is 10^79 iterations, I can't imagine the amount of power needed
for cracking that...
Isn't 4x10^80 the amount of atoms in the universe?


25 years ago, I had a KayPro II with CP/M, 64KB RAM and 2 380KB 
FDDs.  (Sun 2s of the same era had a 10MHz MC68010, 4MB RAM and cost 
$44,000.)  Now, I've got 131,000x more RAM, 2000x more MHz and pair 
of CPUs, and 790x more disk space.


What kind of specialized crackers does the NSA have now, and how 
much faster and smaller (thus higher rack density) will they be in 2035?


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Re: 515...@bugs.debian.org

2009-02-23 Thread Bob Cox
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 17:16:20 -0800, Ink Bottle (ink.bot...@yahoo.com) 
wrote: 

> I quite don't understand how this bug had been treated,
> or not treated.

It looks like your bug report
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515159 was forwarded by
one of the package maintainers to
http://www.twotoasts.de/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=267 where it
was closed because it was considered "invalid".  There's a footnote
saying that the problem was "obviously" a crash in Adobe Flash and to
report the problem to bugs.webkit.org.

So to answer your question, the midori maintainer appears to have passed
your bug report upstream where it was considered not to be a midori
problem after all.


> regards
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Re: how to find why packages are automatically installed?

2009-02-23 Thread Mr. Wang Long
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 22:39, Douglas A. Tutty  wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 05:34:09PM -0800, Michael M. Moore wrote:
>> But I'm still left with a whole slew of automatically installed packages
>> I don't want anymore, and I can't figure out how to identify why they
>> are still installed.  I thought the gconf2 package might be keeping them
>> installed, but when I selected that for removal, several packages I want
>> to keep (for example, quodlibet, which is not marked as automatically
>> installed and does not depend gconf2) were also marked for deletion.  I
>> don't understand why that would be.
>
> I've always found that the best way to sort out package dependancies is
> to use the full-screen mode of aptitude.  Pick one of the packages you
> don't want any more, select it, go down to see what depends on it and
> choose one of the ones that its installed, etc.
>
> Or, you can simple mark the package for removal, which will 'break' the
> other packages,  hit 'b' to be taken to the first broken package and see
> what's going on.
>
> Doug.
>
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Re: how to find why packages are automatically installed?

2009-02-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:54:00AM -0800, "Michael M. Moore" 
 was heard to say:
>>> The thing is I was planning on keeping gdm, though I guess I could   
>>> switch to xdm, or do without a display manager.  But gdm, according 
>>> to  aptitude, shouldn't require nautilus.  It shouldn't even require  
>>> gnome-session, just one of gnome-session | x-session-manager |   
>>> x-window-manager | x-terminal-emulator.  I have Openbox and xterm   
>>> installed, so I should be covered there, right?
>>
>>   Then you need to remove gnome-session and replace it with something
>> else.
>
> That gets to the heart of my confusion about how this works, because I  
> didn't *need* a replacement for gnome-session -- I already had packages  
> installed that satisfied that requirement.

  aptitude conservatively assumes that if A depends on B, that you might
want B because of A.  That's true even if the same dependency could be
satisfied by another package -- otherwise aptitude would be in the
business of guessing which alternative not to delete. :-)

> But aptitude wouldn't  
> automatically remove the automatically installed gnome-session unless I  
> removed gdm.  I could have manually removed gnome-session without  
> breaking anything, but all that would have done was remove gnome-session  
> -- that action would not have removed nautilus, even though nautilus was  
> still installed because gnome-session recommended it.

  I'm not sure, but I bet that there was something else installed that
needed nautilus, and that gdm depended on or recommended.  I can't see
any obvious candidates in that list, though. (I tried a few, and they
all only require gnome-session)

  Daniel


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Re: Are squeeze weekly CDs being produced yet?

2009-02-23 Thread Rick Thomas


On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:


On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:14:18PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:

Same sort of thing for the weekly page

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/

It mentions Lenny as if it were still testing.


Also fixed now. The first set of squeeze weekly builds will be next
Monday now.

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Very cool!   Thanks!  I'll give it a try when it's available.


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Recommended TrueType fonts

2009-02-23 Thread T o n g
Hi,

I want to install a minimum set of TrueType fonts. Which are ther 
recommended good ones? 

My current selections are:

 ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-core ttf-dejavu-extra

But I've forgot why. Any recommended web pages that I can refer to?

PS. I used to have Lucida TrueType fonts. They looked pretty good and I 
use them all over my applications. Which package provides them? I don't 
think I've installed sun-java6-fonts though (Maybe it is called something 
different previously?)

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OT: file system versus databases

2009-02-23 Thread Mag Gam
I was curious why this was faster:

At our company we store close to 50TB of  certain transaction data and
we stored it on a UNIX filesystem raw without any DBMS help.

For example:
country/A/name/A.txt
country/B/name/B.txt
country/C/name/C.txt
and so on...
We have close to 500 million entries in this format.


When we do a read() on a file, its very fast and we enjoy it. Would we
get a similar performance if we use a database and index it?

TIA


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Re: VirtualBox on lenny

2009-02-23 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:28:29 +
Magnus Therning  wrote:

> Harry Putnam wrote:
> > Googling about virtualbox on debian.. I see only older information.
> > Looks like the wiki at http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox
> > Appear to be somewhat old too and only goes up to etch. Other stuff
> > shows its from 2007.  I know VirtualBox is under very active
> > development so wondered if things may have changed since that wiki was
> > posted.
> > 
> > aptitude search virtualbox shows a bewildering array of packages with
> > virutalbox in the name... but I see no version numbers.
> > 
> > Anyway, is there a recent outline about how to do this somewhere?
> > 
> > Or any posters here have VirtualBox running on lenny that can say how
> > they did it?
> 
> Depending on where you land on the proprietary vs. free scale you might
> be comfortable with using the proprietary version of VirtualBox (after
> reading the license carefully so you know whether your usage is covered,
> of course).  They have a repo for it:
> 
>   deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free
> 
> /M
> 

I tried installing that but for some reason after running windows in a box
(which seems to be running rather nicely in initial tests) the color settings
are messed up. Opening lyx for example, it runs using 4 colors and a messed up
pallet. opening windows again makes it run with weird colors when in focus and
correct colors when not in focus.


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Update Manager

2009-02-23 Thread John Lindsay
Is there a problem with the update manager or the sites from which it 
get updates? I haven't seen an update since Friday Feb 13. It tells me 
my system is up-to-date but up until last Friday I would get updates 5-6 
times a week. Also,  whenever  the update manager starts up, mplayer 
shows up in the list unchecked and greyed out. How can I remove it from 
the list?


John


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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson

Daryl Styrk wrote:

Jimmy Johnson wrote:

Sure, click on your gmail account, Advanced Features, Manage folder 
subscriptions, that should do it.


Spot on!  Thanks..



You're welcome. :)
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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Daryl Styrk

Jimmy Johnson wrote:

Sure, click on your gmail account, Advanced Features, Manage folder 
subscriptions, that should do it.


Spot on!  Thanks..


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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson

Daryl Styrk wrote:

Jimmy Johnson wrote:
You need to use IMAP and use the folder "All Mail" to see both sent 
and received mail.


That option doesn't available here.?  [Gmail] where all the server 
folder and labels would be found is greyed out.  Ideas?



Sure, click on your gmail account, Advanced Features, Manage folder 
subscriptions, that should do it.

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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Kent West
Ken Teague wrote:
> Ever since I've switched to using Gmail (setup as my outbound SMTP
> server as well), I don't see my replies to this list.  When I subscribed
> to this list, I did so with my @pobox.com alias.  When I switched to
> Gmail, I updated my pobox.com account to forward e-mail to my Gmail
> account.  What gives?  Why can't I see the replies I send?  Others seem
> to see them, as I've seen people on this respond to my responses.
>
>
GMail does something wonky with mail sent to yourself; I don't recall
the specifics; I just know that when my campus switched to GMail, I
started getting inconsistent behavior with messages sent "to myself"
from a non-GMail-web client (Icedove/Thunderbird, Outlook, Eudora, etc).
I remember some discussion about the problem at the time, but I've
forgotten what the specifics are, and have just learned to live with it.

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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Daryl Styrk

Jimmy Johnson wrote:
You need to use IMAP and use the folder "All Mail" to see both sent 
and received mail.


That option doesn't available here.?  [Gmail] where all the server 
folder and labels would be found is greyed out.  Ideas?



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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Javier
Ron Johnson escribió:
> On 02/23/2009 06:12 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 02:34:26PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Given enough time, and resources, *nothing* is untouchable. It's just
>>> a matter of whether They think that the time-effort is worth being
>>> spent on *you*.
>>
>> Like, twenty times the estimated life of the universe.. a thousand times
>> its mass in silicon chips. Everyone involved long dead anyways.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFF_DES_cracker
> When DES was approved as a federal standard in 1976, a machine
> fast enough to test that many keys in a reasonable time would
> have cost an unreasonable amount of money to build.
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFF_DES_cracker#Technology
>Advanced Wireless Technologies built 1856 custom ASIC DES chips
>(called Deep Crack or AWT-4500), housed on 29 circuit boards of
>64 chips each. The boards are then fitted in six cabinets. The
>search is coordinated by a single PC which assigns ranges of keys
>to the chips. The entire machine was capable of testing over 90
>billion keys per second. It would take about 9 days to test every
>possible key at that rate. On average, the correct key would be
>found in half that time.
> 
> In the 11 years since Deep Crack, IC process technology has improved by
> leaps and bounds, and the NSA can throw a whole lot of h/w in parallel
> at brute-force attacks.
> 
> Combine that with Side Channel Attacks (easy if you have the machine
> that did the encryption, and which can discover part of the key) and
> mathematical analysis to determine even more of the key, you suddenly
> see something feasible.
> 
> Of course, all this effort would not be spent on a dissident with some
> "naughty books".
> 
>> +1 on RHD and messier (and subtler} techniques... way to go.
> 


As I also have read in the Wikipedia, it is reseonable to crack a 56bits
DES, a 64bits AES if you have online access to the machine, and probably
in the future it might be possible to crack a 128bits, even offline.
But, a 256 one? It seems incredible to me. 2^256 is this number:


115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936

which is 10^79 iterations, I can't imagine the amount of power needed
for cracking that...
Isn't 4x10^80 the amount of atoms in the universe?


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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:34:31 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:

> On 02/23/2009 07:48 PM, Ken Teague wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> Wouldn't that only be relevant to the Web Interface?
> > 
> > I forgot to mention that I'm seeing this issue while using Thunderterd 
> > connecting to Gmail via IMAP.
> 
> I could tell, because the Mnenhy plugin allows extra "stuff" to be 
> added to the email header display, and I chose to add User-Agent and 
> X-Spam-Status.

You *are* aware that while neither User-Agent nor X-Mailer is part of a
standard, X-Mailer is much more common? X-Mailer makes it into RFC
2076, albeit as non-standard, while User-Agent doesn't; it's apparently
a pretty new-fangled thing cooked up by browser based emailers, or
perhaps derived from newsgroups:

http://mailformat.dan.info/headers/other.html
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2076
http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=55425
http://gnus.org/manual/message_37.html

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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson

Ken Teague wrote:

Jimmy Johnson wrote:
You need to use IMAP and use the folder "All Mail" to see both sent 
and received mail.


This works.  Having to go into All Mail to view only what I want to see 
from this list in a threaded fashion is odd and non-standard.  I feel 
violated!


You'll get used to it. ;)
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Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny - aptitude ERROR

2009-02-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:09:47PM +0100, Csanyi Pal  was 
heard to say:
> How can I find the package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 to download it
> and install it with dpkg?

  That's a virtual package provided by apt.  You need to install the
apt package that matches aptitude (the one from etch).

  Daniel


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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Javier
ow...@netptc.net escribió:
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> From: javu...@gmail.com
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line
>> attack?
>> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:53:27 +0100
>>
>>> Ron Johnson escribió:
 On 02/23/2009 09:26 AM, Javier wrote:
> Ron Johnson escribió:
>> On 02/23/2009 01:28 AM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>>> 2009/2/21 Javier :
 I'm actually using encfs to protect my sensitive data,
>>> Eh...
>>>
>>>   http://xkcd.com/538/
>> That's known as Rubber Hose Decryption.
>>
>
> Oh yes, but if he had the chance to scape, at least the files
>> continue
> to be untouchable
 Given enough time, and resources, *nothing* is untouchable.  It's
>> just a
 matter of whether They think that the time-effort is worth being
>> spent
 on *you*.
>>> Do you mean that there is a way to crack a 256bits AES?
>>>
> Yep! Given enough plaintext and ciphertext and enough time (or
> parallel compute power and less time), a brute force attack will
> always work.
> Larry

What do you mean with "always work"? I mean, is it not going to take one
million years or so? For example, if you encrypt your /home.


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Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny - aptitude ERROR

2009-02-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 08:14:18PM +0100, Csanyi Pal  was 
heard to say:
> Daniel Burrows  writes:
> >   One last idea: does it help at all if you delete /var/lib/apt/*.bin?
> 
> I haven't any *.bin files in /var/lib/apt/ directory, just the
> following directories:

  Ah, sorry, I meant /var/cache/apt.  I've heard some guy made a
diagram of where those state files are, maybe I should stick it on my
wall... :-P

  Daniel


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Re: [OT] Bloatware and how to make Programs smaller

2009-02-23 Thread s. keeling
Michelle Konzack :
>  Am 2009-02-21 22:59:39, schrieb Andrew Reid:
> >   Awesome.  Reminds me of my hobbyist/hacker days.
> > 
> >   And as long as we're already OT:
> >   It also reminds me of a great book I read years ago,
> > "Windows Assembly Language and Systems Programming",
> > by Barry Kauler, which shows, along similar lines to
> 
>  
> 
>  which is 100% writen in ASM

Anyone up to porting it to C?  :-)  Linus?


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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Ken Teague

Jimmy Johnson wrote:
You need to use IMAP and use the folder "All Mail" to see both sent and 
received mail.


This works.  Having to go into All Mail to view only what I want to see 
from this list in a threaded fashion is odd and non-standard.  I feel 
violated!



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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 07:12 PM, Celejar wrote:
[snip]


But it's "not a concern for full 16-round Blowfish", so is that really
a problem?

"There is no effective cryptanalysis on the full-round version of


Where there's smoke, there might be fire.

[snip]


So as I said, anything wrong with Twofish?



Don't know...

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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 07:48 PM, Ken Teague wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

Wouldn't that only be relevant to the Web Interface?


I forgot to mention that I'm seeing this issue while using Thunderterd 
connecting to Gmail via IMAP.


I could tell, because the Mnenhy plugin allows extra "stuff" to be 
added to the email header display, and I chose to add User-Agent and 
X-Spam-Status.


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kubuntu 0804 kernel upgrade

2009-02-23 Thread L.V.Gandhi
I have two machines.
One acer aspire one with 160 GB HDD. Kernel upgrade upto 2.6.24-22-generic
is working. with upgrade 2.6.24-23-generic I get kernel panic message. I
will appreciate any help to get the latest kernel working.

Another I have a desktop based on P5GC-MX motherboard. I have the working
kernel 2.6.24-21-generic. Though 2.6.24-22-generic and 2.6.24-23-generic
kernels are installed I didn't find them in menu.lst. I manually included
and did update-grub. Now I get those kernels in menu during grub boot, but
both th the latest kernels hang after trying to run rc.local. /etc/rc.local
has only exit 0. Nothing more. What to do?
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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson

Ken Teague wrote:

Ever since I've switched to using Gmail (setup as my outbound SMTP
server as well), I don't see my replies to this list.  When I subscribed
to this list, I did so with my @pobox.com alias.  When I switched to
Gmail, I updated my pobox.com account to forward e-mail to my Gmail
account.  What gives?  Why can't I see the replies I send?  Others seem
to see them, as I've seen people on this respond to my responses.



You need to use IMAP and use the folder "All Mail" to see both sent and 
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Debian Lenny Based SimplyMEPIS 8.0 is Released

2009-02-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
I have now done 4 installs of the Mepis 8.0 final, two 64bit with ATI 
Radeon and one 32bit with Intel video and the drivers where installed 
with the system and one 64bit with nVidia video, I used the Mepis 
Assistant to install the GLX driver for it and used the save /home 
option on all installs that took 15 mins or less to install each system 
and I had no problems at all.


If you want a simple, extremely stable and easy to install system, I 
highly recommend this distro. :)

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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Daryl Styrk

Ken Teague wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

Wouldn't that only be relevant to the Web Interface?


I forgot to mention that I'm seeing this issue while using Thunderterd 
connecting to Gmail via IMAP.






Well I am also using Gmail, IMAP, and Icedove..  I do see my replies..

What has changed recently that I can't explain is the [Gmail] folder is 
now greyed out. Before I could drag those emails I wanted to Archive and 
delete the rest.. Anyone else?



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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Ken Teague

Ron Johnson wrote:

Wouldn't that only be relevant to the Web Interface?


I forgot to mention that I'm seeing this issue while using Thunderterd 
connecting to Gmail via IMAP.



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Re: 515...@bugs.debian.org

2009-02-23 Thread Ink Bottle




--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Ink Bottle  wrote:

> From: Ink Bottle 
> Subject: 515...@bugs.debian.org
> To: "deb" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 1:16 AM
> I quite don't understand how this bug had been treated,
> or not treated.
> 
> regards
> -- Ink Bottle
> 
> 
> 
In fact there is something the same here #499452
But I still dont really understand why it's simply been
lost this way.


>   
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515...@bugs.debian.org

2009-02-23 Thread Ink Bottle

I quite don't understand how this bug had been treated,
or not treated.

regards
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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:59:56 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:

> On 02/23/2009 02:43 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:10:57 -0600
> > Ron Johnson  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 02/22/2009 07:03 PM, Javier wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> >>> And which is better, Blowfish or AES?
> >> AES.
> > 
> > Source?  Wikipedia just says:
> > 
> > "Blowfish provides a good encryption rate in software and no effective
> > cryptanalysis of it has been found to date. However, the Advanced
> > Encryption Standard now receives more attention."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_key#List_of_algorithms_with_weak_keys
>  Blowfish. Blowfish's weak keys produce bad S-boxes, since
>  Blowfish's S-boxes are key-dependent. There is a chosen
>  plaintext attack against a reduced-round variant of Blowfish
>  that is made easier by the use of weak keys. This is not a
>  concern for full 16-round Blowfish.
> 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowfish_(cipher)

But it's "not a concern for full 16-round Blowfish", so is that really
a problem?

"There is no effective cryptanalysis on the full-round version of
Blowfish known publicly as of 2009[update]. A sign extension bug in one
publication of C code has been identified.

In 1996, Serge Vaudenay found a known-plaintext attack requiring 28r +
1 known plaintexts to break, where r is the number of rounds. Moreover,
he also found a class of weak keys that can be detected and broken by
the same attack with only 24r + 1 known plaintexts. This attack cannot
be used against the regular Blowfish; it assumes knowledge of the
key-dependent S-boxes. Vincent Rijmen, in his Ph.D. thesis, introduced
a second-order differential attack that can break four rounds and no
more. There remains no known way to break the full 16 rounds, apart
from a brute-force search.

Bruce Schneier notes that while Blowfish is still in use, he recommends
using the more recent Twofish algorithm instead."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowfish_(cipher)#Cryptanalysis_of_Blowfish

> > And what about Twofish?

So as I said, anything wrong with Twofish?

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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:10:54 +0100
Javier  wrote:

...

> I've discovered that the program apg is very nice, it can produce
> lengthy but pronounceable pass phrases like these (40 readable chars,
> probably equivalent to a 256bit random one):

Or pwgen.

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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 06:10 PM, Mike Castle wrote:

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Wiseman  wrote:

What I find is that original messages to the list do not show up in my
inbox until someone replies, but that replies show up at the
appropriate point in the thread.


The message is still unread, just not associated with the Inbox label.

If you go into Sent Mail, you'll find the message there, unread.

When a reply comes in, the Inbox label is associated with the new
message, not the whole thread.  But it displays it as an entire
thread.

You should be able to show this by creating a new label, say
'testing'.  Send a message to a list you subscribe to.  As soon as you
send, go into Sent Mail, and apply that new label.

When you get a response, that new message should show up under both
labels, even though you don't have a filter to go to apply that label.

That is, the new message shows up in the testing label because the
original message has that label associated with it.  The original
messages shows up in the Inbox because the new message has that label
associated with it.


Wouldn't that only be relevant to the Web Interface?

(Anyway, more proof that gmail sucks...)

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Re: Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 05:28 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
[snip]


pe...@peter:~$ iceweasel
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/home/peter/downloads/adobesvg-3.0/libNPSVG3.so [libgtksuperwin.so: Kann 
die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht 
gefunden]

** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/home/peter/downloads/adobesvg-3.0/libNPSVG3.so [libgtksuperwin.so: Kann 
die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht 
gefunden]




adobesvg-3.0 that's pretty old.  adobesvg-3.01 is 4+ years old.

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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 02:43 PM, Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:10:57 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:


On 02/22/2009 07:03 PM, Javier wrote:


...


And which is better, Blowfish or AES?

AES.


Source?  Wikipedia just says:

"Blowfish provides a good encryption rate in software and no effective
cryptanalysis of it has been found to date. However, the Advanced
Encryption Standard now receives more attention."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_key#List_of_algorithms_with_weak_keys
Blowfish. Blowfish's weak keys produce bad S-boxes, since
Blowfish's S-boxes are key-dependent. There is a chosen
plaintext attack against a reduced-round variant of Blowfish
that is made easier by the use of weak keys. This is not a
concern for full 16-round Blowfish.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowfish_(cipher)

And what about Twofish?


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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 06:12 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 02:34:26PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote:


Given enough time, and resources, *nothing* is untouchable. It's just
a matter of whether They think that the time-effort is worth being
spent on *you*.


Like, twenty times the estimated life of the universe.. a thousand times
its mass in silicon chips. Everyone involved long dead anyways.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFF_DES_cracker
When DES was approved as a federal standard in 1976, a machine
fast enough to test that many keys in a reasonable time would
have cost an unreasonable amount of money to build.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFF_DES_cracker#Technology
   Advanced Wireless Technologies built 1856 custom ASIC DES chips
   (called Deep Crack or AWT-4500), housed on 29 circuit boards of
   64 chips each. The boards are then fitted in six cabinets. The
   search is coordinated by a single PC which assigns ranges of keys
   to the chips. The entire machine was capable of testing over 90
   billion keys per second. It would take about 9 days to test every
   possible key at that rate. On average, the correct key would be
   found in half that time.

In the 11 years since Deep Crack, IC process technology has improved 
by leaps and bounds, and the NSA can throw a whole lot of h/w in 
parallel at brute-force attacks.


Combine that with Side Channel Attacks (easy if you have the machine 
that did the encryption, and which can discover part of the key) and 
mathematical analysis to determine even more of the key, you 
suddenly see something feasible.


Of course, all this effort would not be spent on a dissident with 
some "naughty books".



+1 on RHD and messier (and subtler} techniques... way to go.


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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread owens
>
>
>
> Original Message 
>From: javu...@gmail.com
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line
>attack?
>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:53:27 +0100
>
>>Ron Johnson escribió:
>>> On 02/23/2009 09:26 AM, Javier wrote:
 Ron Johnson escribió:
> On 02/23/2009 01:28 AM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>> 2009/2/21 Javier :
>>> I'm actually using encfs to protect my sensitive data,
>> Eh...
>>
>>   http://xkcd.com/538/
> That's known as Rubber Hose Decryption.
>


 Oh yes, but if he had the chance to scape, at least the files
>continue
 to be untouchable
>>> 
>>> Given enough time, and resources, *nothing* is untouchable.  It's
>just a
>>> matter of whether They think that the time-effort is worth being
>spent
>>> on *you*.
>>
>>Do you mean that there is a way to crack a 256bits AES?
>>
Yep! Given enough plaintext and ciphertext and enough time (or
parallel compute power and less time), a brute force attack will
always work.
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Re: Problem with default resolution starting Debian Lenny

2009-02-23 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 03:59, Carlos Fernandez  wrote:
> I am using Debian Lenny Stable, and the xorg.conf is:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
>Driver  "kbd"
>Option  "XkbRules"  "xorg"
>Option  "XkbModel"  "pc105"
>Option  "XkbLayout" "es"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
>Driver  "mouse"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>Identifier  "Configured Video Device"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>Identifier  "Configured Monitor"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>Identifier  "Default Screen"
>Monitor "Configured Monitor"
> EndSection
>
> Thank you very much, I appreciate your help.

Try:

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier  "Configured Monitor"
   Option  "PreferredMode"  "1280x1024 "
 EndSection


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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 02:34:26PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote:

> Given enough time, and resources, *nothing* is untouchable. It's just
> a matter of whether They think that the time-effort is worth being
> spent on *you*.

Like, twenty times the estimated life of the universe.. a thousand times
its mass in silicon chips. Everyone involved long dead anyways.

+1 on RHD and messier (and subtler} techniques... way to go.


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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Mike Castle
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Wiseman  wrote:
>
> What I find is that original messages to the list do not show up in my
> inbox until someone replies, but that replies show up at the
> appropriate point in the thread.

The message is still unread, just not associated with the Inbox label.

If you go into Sent Mail, you'll find the message there, unread.

When a reply comes in, the Inbox label is associated with the new
message, not the whole thread.  But it displays it as an entire
thread.

You should be able to show this by creating a new label, say
'testing'.  Send a message to a list you subscribe to.  As soon as you
send, go into Sent Mail, and apply that new label.

When you get a response, that new message should show up under both
labels, even though you don't have a filter to go to apply that label.

That is, the new message shows up in the testing label because the
original message has that label associated with it.  The original
messages shows up in the Inbox because the new message has that label
associated with it.

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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Mike Castle  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Ken Teague  wrote:
> > Ever since I've switched to using Gmail (setup as my outbound SMTP
> > server as well), I don't see my replies to this list.  When I subscribed
> > to this list, I did so with my @pobox.com alias.  When I switched to
> > Gmail, I updated my pobox.com account to forward e-mail to my Gmail
> > account.  What gives?  Why can't I see the replies I send?  Others seem
> > to see them, as I've seen people on this respond to my responses.
>
> I imagine that GMail is doing duplication detection.  It knows you
> already have that message under Sent Mail, so it doesn't expose it
> again when it comes back from the list.

What I find is that original messages to the list do not show up in my
inbox until someone replies, but that replies show up at the
appropriate point in the thread.

Patrick


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Re: [OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Mike Castle
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Ken Teague  wrote:
> Ever since I've switched to using Gmail (setup as my outbound SMTP
> server as well), I don't see my replies to this list.  When I subscribed
> to this list, I did so with my @pobox.com alias.  When I switched to
> Gmail, I updated my pobox.com account to forward e-mail to my Gmail
> account.  What gives?  Why can't I see the replies I send?  Others seem
> to see them, as I've seen people on this respond to my responses.

I imagine that GMail is doing duplication detection.  It knows you
already have that message under Sent Mail, so it doesn't expose it
again when it comes back from the list.

I'm not sure how much detection it's doing.  How much modification can
it handle before it fails to detect the duplication.  Footers from
list.  Message-id munging. That kind of stuff.  Some other variety of
signals.

mrc


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Re: Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On 24 February 2009 00:28:56 Peter Robinson wrote:
> Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> > On 23 February 2009 23:54:18 Peter Robinson wrote:
> >> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>> On 02/23/2009 04:32 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
>  On 23 February 2009 23:23:55 Peter Robinson wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> > I have noticed that Iceweasel (i.e., firefox, version 3.06 under
> > debian sid) does not display the graphics from Wikipedia, although as
> > far as I can tell images from all other websites are shown correctly.
> > That is, instead of the images on a page like
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama
> >
> > one sees only blank white areas.
> >
> > Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > CHeers Peter
> 
>  In squeeze, iceweasel 3.06 too, everything is showing OK on the page
>  you mentioned.
>  Thierry
> >>>
> >>> AOL!  In Sid IW 3.0.6-1 all the images (of VdG, maps of Africa, etc)
> >>> all appear.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe OP has some misconfigured plugins?
> >>
> >> Any ideas what plugins could be doing this? I have Java, Flash, some
> >> plugins for videas streams, adobe reader, but nothing too unusual...
> >> -Peter
> >
> > Can you try to start iceweasel from a command line? It may show
> > something...
>
> Right! Here it is (the German text says Cannot find the shared object
> file libgtksuperwin.so). I have libgtk2.12 installed. As far as I can
> see there is no package called libgtksuperwin...
>
>
> pe...@peter:~$ iceweasel
> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
> /home/peter/downloads/adobesvg-3.0/libNPSVG3.so [libgtksuperwin.so: Kann
> die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht
> gefunden] ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
> /home/peter/downloads/adobesvg-3.0/libNPSVG3.so [libgtksuperwin.so: Kann
> die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht
> gefunden]

Good, now I have to leave it to someone more knowledgable than I. Sorry, good 
luck...


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Re: Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Peter Robinson

Thierry Chatelet wrote:

On 23 February 2009 23:54:18 Peter Robinson wrote:
  

Ron Johnson wrote:


On 02/23/2009 04:32 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
  

On 23 February 2009 23:23:55 Peter Robinson wrote:


Dear all,


I have noticed that Iceweasel (i.e., firefox, version 3.06 under debian
sid) does not display the graphics from Wikipedia, although as far as I
can tell images from all other websites are shown correctly. That is,
instead of the images on a page like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama

one sees only blank white areas.

Has anyone else had this problem?

CHeers Peter
  

In squeeze, iceweasel 3.06 too, everything is showing OK on the page
you mentioned.
Thierry


AOL!  In Sid IW 3.0.6-1 all the images (of VdG, maps of Africa, etc)
all appear.

Maybe OP has some misconfigured plugins?
  

Any ideas what plugins could be doing this? I have Java, Flash, some
plugins for videas streams, adobe reader, but nothing too unusual...
-Peter



Can you try to start iceweasel from a command line? It may show something...


  
Right! Here it is (the German text says Cannot find the shared object 
file libgtksuperwin.so). I have libgtk2.12 installed. As far as I can 
see there is no package called libgtksuperwin...



pe...@peter:~$ iceweasel
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/home/peter/downloads/adobesvg-3.0/libNPSVG3.so [libgtksuperwin.so: Kann 
die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden]

** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/home/peter/downloads/adobesvg-3.0/libNPSVG3.so [libgtksuperwin.so: Kann 
die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden]








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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Javier
Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso escribió:
> 2009/2/23 Javier :
>> The main point here is: if he is lucky enough, no police would enter
>> into his house.
> 
> Since this has become a tinfoil hat thread more than an encryption thread...
> 
> My own personal solution to the problem has been this: my hard drive
> decryption password is 25 random printable ASCII characters. And I do
> mean random. It's something like >]\gj-eR4cn-nc;i...@{gawa*po, which I
> have committed to *muscle memory*. That is, if you ask me what my
> password is, I genuinely don't know it, because I have to sit in front
> of a keyboard to type it out, and I often make mistakes. I also rotate
> it once a year. My hope is that this means the password can't be
> obtained from me under duress, because I would be unable to type it
> out without making mistakes if I were under duress.
> 
> My paranoia is vaguely justified, since I live in Mexico and we do
> have an ongoing history of torture in this country, although I'm not
> too sure what the torturers could want from my hard drive except my
> homemade pr0n (that's really the reason I encrypt my laptop's hard
> drive, so that in case of theft my girlfriend and I don't end up in
> RedTube). How do you justify your paranoia, Javier? ;-)
> 
> - Jordi G. H.
> 
> 

I've discovered that the program apg is very nice, it can produce
lengthy but pronounceable pass phrases like these (40 readable chars,
probably equivalent to a 256bit random one):

# apg -m 40
WoitshEfHoQuagAdCurnashiawRaikBatJakEax,
gohoirAsejhukcaroldOafyebgimwacpokAtulv,
JewvudNuitImEbotThitObijedTehosenyebbev?
OjRalavCiHomOn3omesDifNicEfBisyokaddagOo
ubhousWicyerfeaTwephijhuDreapNogJosisIj5
ZykAdbeinAckrahapecdofsEnLojkitfucAxooj*


About my paranoia... not that much. I've never used encryption until
now, I have nothing to hide to police, and am living in Spain, which is
supposed to be a good democratic country. But I have recently adquired a
laptop, and there is sensible data in it, like passwords, private mail
from people with truly despotic goverments, personal photos, and some
private data from the work which might be convenient to protect. I'm
more worried about friends...


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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Javier
Ron Johnson escribió:
> On 02/23/2009 09:26 AM, Javier wrote:
>> Ron Johnson escribió:
>>> On 02/23/2009 01:28 AM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
 2009/2/21 Javier :
> I'm actually using encfs to protect my sensitive data,
 Eh...

   http://xkcd.com/538/
>>> That's known as Rubber Hose Decryption.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Oh yes, but if he had the chance to scape, at least the files continue
>> to be untouchable
> 
> Given enough time, and resources, *nothing* is untouchable.  It's just a
> matter of whether They think that the time-effort is worth being spent
> on *you*.

Do you mean that there is a way to crack a 256bits AES?


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Re: Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On 23 February 2009 23:54:18 Peter Robinson wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 02/23/2009 04:32 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> >> On 23 February 2009 23:23:55 Peter Robinson wrote:
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have noticed that Iceweasel (i.e., firefox, version 3.06 under debian
> >>> sid) does not display the graphics from Wikipedia, although as far as I
> >>> can tell images from all other websites are shown correctly. That is,
> >>> instead of the images on a page like
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama
> >>>
> >>> one sees only blank white areas.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>>
> >>> CHeers Peter
> >>
> >> In squeeze, iceweasel 3.06 too, everything is showing OK on the page
> >> you mentioned.
> >> Thierry
> >
> > AOL!  In Sid IW 3.0.6-1 all the images (of VdG, maps of Africa, etc)
> > all appear.
> >
> > Maybe OP has some misconfigured plugins?
>
> Any ideas what plugins could be doing this? I have Java, Flash, some
> plugins for videas streams, adobe reader, but nothing too unusual...
> -Peter

Can you try to start iceweasel from a command line? It may show something...


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Re: Are squeeze weekly CDs being produced yet?

2009-02-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:14:18PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Same sort of thing for the weekly page
>
>   http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/
>
> It mentions Lenny as if it were still testing.

Also fixed now. The first set of squeeze weekly builds will be next
Monday now.

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Re: Are squeeze daily CDs being produced yet?

2009-02-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:10:15PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On the cdimage daily builds page
>
>   http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/
>
> there is mention of Lenny and Sid, but no mention of squeeze.  Is that a 
> bug?

Nope, we just left them disabled for a while after the release. I've
just turned them on again now after we've reconfigured to build for
squeeze.

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[OT] Gmail & my replies to this list

2009-02-23 Thread Ken Teague

Ever since I've switched to using Gmail (setup as my outbound SMTP
server as well), I don't see my replies to this list.  When I subscribed
to this list, I did so with my @pobox.com alias.  When I switched to
Gmail, I updated my pobox.com account to forward e-mail to my Gmail
account.  What gives?  Why can't I see the replies I send?  Others seem
to see them, as I've seen people on this respond to my responses.


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Re: Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Peter Robinson

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 02/23/2009 04:32 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

On 23 February 2009 23:23:55 Peter Robinson wrote:

Dear all,


I have noticed that Iceweasel (i.e., firefox, version 3.06 under debian
sid) does not display the graphics from Wikipedia, although as far as I
can tell images from all other websites are shown correctly. That is,
instead of the images on a page like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama

one sees only blank white areas.

Has anyone else had this problem?

CHeers Peter


In squeeze, iceweasel 3.06 too, everything is showing OK on the page 
you mentioned.

Thierry



AOL!  In Sid IW 3.0.6-1 all the images (of VdG, maps of Africa, etc) 
all appear.


Maybe OP has some misconfigured plugins?

Any ideas what plugins could be doing this? I have Java, Flash, some 
plugins for videas streams, adobe reader, but nothing too unusual...

-Peter


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Re: New Video Card

2009-02-23 Thread Ken Teague

David Baron wrote:
No, not a big gamer but newer kde needs opengl. I remember the wierd artifacts 
in that old Mac64 with my own compiled dri stuff and my son's complaining 
about that card. The nvidia was great in comparison


Artifacts are no good.  Of the two cards you mentioned, I think you 
would have the best luck with the Matrox.




The "debian way" does nothing. I do not have X-configure


X-configure isn't a command.  X is the command and -configure is the 
argument to the command.  X -configure



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Re: Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 04:32 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

On 23 February 2009 23:23:55 Peter Robinson wrote:

Dear all,


I have noticed that Iceweasel (i.e., firefox, version 3.06 under debian
sid) does not display the graphics from Wikipedia, although as far as I
can tell images from all other websites are shown correctly. That is,
instead of the images on a page like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama

one sees only blank white areas.

Has anyone else had this problem?

CHeers Peter


In squeeze, iceweasel 3.06 too, everything is showing OK on the page you 
mentioned.

Thierry



AOL!  In Sid IW 3.0.6-1 all the images (of VdG, maps of Africa, etc) 
all appear.


Maybe OP has some misconfigured plugins?

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Re: Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On 23 February 2009 23:23:55 Peter Robinson wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>
> I have noticed that Iceweasel (i.e., firefox, version 3.06 under debian
> sid) does not display the graphics from Wikipedia, although as far as I
> can tell images from all other websites are shown correctly. That is,
> instead of the images on a page like
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama
>
> one sees only blank white areas.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> CHeers Peter

In squeeze, iceweasel 3.06 too, everything is showing OK on the page you 
mentioned.
Thierry


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mediawiki-extensions - package... strongly suspect bug, wonder about adv. of deb packages...

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Bonert
Hi John,

Thanks. ( http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/02/msg01426.html )
I did get one module working (Cite.php).  

Above said, I have the impression that there is an incompatibility, between the
'mediawiki-extensions' package and 'mediawiki' in the stable branch.  I cannot
confirm this... as I cannot find the upstream version information for the 
'mediawiki-extensions (1.4)' package ( 
http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/mediawiki-extensions ).

However, I note that 'sid' and 'squeeze (testing)' use the '1:1.13.3' branch of 
mediawiki.  I'm quite certain the error I'm getting (see below) arises from a 
packaging problem in Debian, i.e. Debian package 'mediawiki' (1:1.12.0-2lenny2) 
is not compatible with 'mediawiki-extensions' (1.4), as mediawiki-extensions 
(1.4) appears to be derived from extension in the 1.13 branch of mediawiki.

I know that Mediawiki ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ) specifies 
that the version of
the extensions has to match the program, e.g. Mediawiki version 1.12 has to use 
the extensions
for version 1.12.  I note that there has been a previous bug, which appears to 
be related to
this very issue -- based on the changelog 
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/mediawiki-extensions/mediawiki-extensions_1.4/changelog
 -- see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473785 .

I'm having problems with the ParserFunction extension (see error message below).

My set-up --

Versions:
mediawiki: 1:1.12.0-2lenny2
mediawiki-extensions: 1.4

-
As for a fix... 
I think that the 'mediawiki-extensions' package should be clearly 'mediawiki' 
version dependent, i.e.
there ought to be a package 'mediawiki-extensions 1.12-1' (for mediawiki 
version 1.12) and a package 'mediawiki 1.13-1' (for mediawiki version 1.13).

-

In any case, what are the advantages of using Debian's packages for mediawiki?
-I've had the impression it would ease upgrading... but I'm uncertain about 
that.
-I've had the impression that I'd get security updates quickly...

Currently, I'm seeing some disadvantages...
-more limited documentation (see 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/02/msg01271.html 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516693 )
-possible additional bugs (see above)

Thanks,
Michael



Error message:
-
array(2) { ["LanguageGetMagic"]=>  array(1) { [0]=>  string(33) 
"wfParserFunctionsLanguageGetMagic" } ["ParserClearState"]=>  array(2) { [0]=>  
array(2) { [0]=>  &NULL [1]=>  string(10) "clearState" } [1]=>  array(2) { 
[0]=>  &object(Cite)#19 (6) { ["mRefs"]=>  array(0) { } ["mOutCnt"]=>  int(0) 
["mInCnt"]=>  int(0) ["mBacklinkLabels"]=>  NULL ["mParser"]=>  NULL 
["mInCite"]=>  bool(false) } [1]=>  string(10) "clearState" } } } array(2) { 
["LanguageGetMagic"]=>  array(1) { [0]=>  string(33) 
"wfParserFunctionsLanguageGetMagic" } ["ParserClearState"]=>  array(2) { [0]=>  
array(2) { [0]=>  &NULL [1]=>  string(10) "clearState" } [1]=>  array(2) { 
[0]=>  &object(Cite)#19 (6) { ["mRefs"]=>  array(0) { } ["mOutCnt"]=>  int(0) 
["mInCnt"]=>  int(0) ["mBacklinkLabels"]=>  NULL ["mParser"]=>  NULL 
["mInCite"]=>  bool(false) } [1]=>  string(10) "clearState" } } } MediaWiki 
internal error.

Original exception: exception 'MWException' with message 'Unknown datatype in 
hooks for ParserClearState
' in /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Hooks.php:85
Stack trace:
#0 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Parser.php(230): 
wfRunHooks('ParserClearStat...', Array)
#1 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Parser.php(266): Parser->clearState()
#2 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/OutputPage.php(369): Parser->parse('This 
page has b...', Object(Title), Object(ParserOptions), true, true, NULL)
#3 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(573): 
OutputPage->parse('This page has b...', true, true)
#4 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/SkinTemplate.php(315): 
wfMsgExt('viewcount', Array, '14')
#5 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/OutputPage.php(595): 
SkinTemplate->outputPage(Object(OutputPage))
#6 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Wiki.php(250): OutputPage->output()
#7 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/index.php(124): MediaWiki->finalCleanup(Array, 
Object(LoadBalancer), Object(OutputPage))
#8 {main}

Exception caught inside exception handler: exception 'MWException' with message 
'Unknown datatype in hooks for ParserClearState
' in /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Hooks.php:85
Stack trace:
#0 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Parser.php(230): 
wfRunHooks('ParserClearStat...', Array)
#1 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/Parser.php(3740): Parser->clearState()
#2 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/MessageCache.php(534): 
Parser->transformMsg('$1 - {{SITENAME...', Object(ParserOptions))
#3 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/MessageCache.php(476): 
MessageCache->transform('$1 - {{SITENAME...')
#4 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(450): 
MessageCache->get('pagetitle', true, false)
#5 /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(409): 
wfMsgGetKey('pagetit

Bug in Iceweasel: Graphics not displayed

2009-02-23 Thread Peter Robinson


Dear all,


I have noticed that Iceweasel (i.e., firefox, version 3.06 under debian 
sid) does not display the graphics from Wikipedia, although as far as I 
can tell images from all other websites are shown correctly. That is, 
instead of the images on a page like


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama

one sees only blank white areas.

Has anyone else had this problem?

CHeers Peter


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Re: no picture in vlc

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 04:19 AM, Vadim Kolchev wrote:
Got a slight problem with vlc - just installed it and it doesn't play 
videos - when I open avi file there is only audio from it and no 
picture. Why is it so?


Run vlc from the command line.  That might show you what's missing.

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Re: no picture in vlc

2009-02-23 Thread Matthew Moore
On Monday 23 February 2009 03:19:40 am Vadim Kolchev wrote:
>  Got a slight problem with vlc - just installed it and it doesn't play
> videos - when I open avi file there is only audio from it and no
> picture. Why is it so?

Are you using debian-multimedia? IIRC there was some conflict between the 
libav* 
packages from debian-multimedia and the vlc provided by the official repos that 
had similar symptoms. The fix was to roll your libav* packages back to the 
official packages. According to debian-multimedia's front page new versions of 
libav* that work with vlc are available in experimental.

MM


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RE: Wireless Setup Problem

2009-02-23 Thread Stackpole, Chris
> From: Celejar [mailto:cele...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Wireless Setup Problem
> 
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:51:31 -0800
> Raquel  wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > > http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
> 
> The OP said he's running Debian, so just 'aptitude install wicd'

If he is running Squeeze or Sid, then yes. If he is running Lenny or
older, he needs that link or this one.
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/wicd


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browse with root-rights

2009-02-23 Thread E.D. Grootjans
Hallo,

If have a problem with browsing the Windows network under samba.
Under my previous version of smaba (3.0.24) browsing worked.

I will browse the Windows network with nautilus with root rights,
because i can plece files where i want them.
For this i use the command :

gksu -u root "nautilus --no-desktop --browser /root"

This starts nautilus with user root.
If i click on Network  --- i get a screen with the Windows Network Icon
If i click on this icon --- i hear some thing and my arrow returns; the
Windows icon stays on the screen.


As a normal user i can browse, but i have than to use the home-dir of
the user to copy the files to. And with root i have to copy them in
place.
Under 3.0.24 i could do this, but now under 3.2.5 it does not work

More info:
If i give the command from a terminal.
I get the following message to the terminalscreen:
Could not get main dbus connection: Did not receive a reply, Possible
cause include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message
bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timed out or the
network connection was broken.



Please help


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fancontrol - empty /proc/acpi/fan

2009-02-23 Thread Svend Runge Nielsen
Hi, 

I've recently re-installed Debian (squeeze) on my PC. 

My last installed system included fancontrol via lm-sensors, and I was able
to configure fancontrol to make my PC almost free of noise.

I've tried to setup fancontrol on my new system.
The 'sensors-detect' program found the sensors nicely and 'pwmconfig' seemed
to control the fans ok.
Everything looked fine, but fancontrol didn't work (and still doesn't). Then
I found that /proc/acpi/fan/ was empty (modules 'thermal' and 'fan' were
loaded).

Any suggestions? - I sure miss my silent PC.

/Svend


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Re: Java in Debian 5

2009-02-23 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/2/24 Bret Busby :
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Paul Johnson wrote:

> I thought that using package management to do system updates, like apt-get
> update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade, removed packages that became
> obsolete, and thence associated files, other than data files created by the
> packages.

By default configuration files are left behind unless you pass the
--purge switch to aptitude or apt-get.

Adrian

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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:06:02 -0500
Jeff Soules  wrote:

> Hi Javier,
> 
> Thank you for your reply.  Given the hypothetical (but all too
> possible) situation you describe, there are different considerations.
> 
> > Now imagine the worst situation, that a friend wants to protect his data
> > from his corrupt dictatorial government
> 
> Absolutely a possibility.  There are many levels of secrecy --
> filesystem encryption prevents the contents from being known, but does
> not hide the fact that there is a secret.  The presence of a secret
> could be enough right there.  The kind of government you describe
> doesn't need to find evidence in order to "disappear" a person.  This
> also makes it all the more possible that, if his house is raided and
> encrypted files are found, someone might try to torture the
> information out of him.  (Even if the partition is named something
> harmless-sounding, I can't imagine cops anywhere who wouldn't demand
> it be decrypted so they could check it, and refusal would not look
> good.)  In any case, with EncFS we're talking about a technological
> solution in which the encryption key is stored alongside the encrypted
> media, so whatever the password concerns are, this is unsuitable for
> keeping information truly secret when a hostile person might have
> enough physical access to the drive.
> 
> I think it is entirely too likely that a government like this either
> would be able to compromise the data (with or without recovering the
> passwords), or would be willing to punish him just for having
> encrypted data to begin with, if they know he has it.
> 
> > Then my question is: is EncFS good enough to protect his data?
> > I think the SD with stored password is a good solution. While he is not
> > in the house, he can carry the SD or have it hidden somewhere. While he
> > is in the house, and police enter, he might have enough time to probably
> > destroy the SD and turn off the computer.
> 
> With the level of danger involved here, I think the security issue is
> more that there be some rapid way to destroy any evidence of the
> existence of the data (possibly destroying the data itself), rather
> than making sure the password stays safe.  Destroying the SD card is a
> start, but really a person under this kind of government would need to
> be able to say "No, there are no secrets," not "Here's a filesystem
> that you can't read."
> 
> That was my point in the original email -- while there are some
> interesting technical problems here, I think in this case the digital
> security is less important than the social/personal security
> surrounding it.  Or, rather, the digital security will not wind up
> being the weakest link in the chain.

This is exactly the sort of problem that StegFS was invented to solve.
Unfortunately, there has never been a stable release, and development
has stagnated.

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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:10:57 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:

> On 02/22/2009 07:03 PM, Javier wrote:

...

> > And which is better, Blowfish or AES?
> 
> AES.

Source?  Wikipedia just says:

"Blowfish provides a good encryption rate in software and no effective
cryptanalysis of it has been found to date. However, the Advanced
Encryption Standard now receives more attention."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowfish_(cipher)

And what about Twofish?

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Re: Wireless Setup Problem

2009-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:51:31 -0800
Raquel  wrote:

...

> > http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php

The OP said he's running Debian, so just 'aptitude install wicd'

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Re: New Video Card

2009-02-23 Thread David Baron
> David Baron wrote:
> > 1. Which is better (I assume the matrox but am willing to learn
> > otherwise) ?
>
> Allegedly, Matrox cards has had great support under X for quite some
> time.  I guess the real answer to this will be dependent upon what type
> of stuff you do on your PC.  I'm going to go out on a limb and assume
> "things that don't require a lot of 3D rendering".

No, not a big gamer but newer kde needs opengl. I remember the wierd artifacts 
in that old Mac64 with my own compiled dri stuff and my son's complaining 
about that card. The nvidia was great in comparison

>
> > 2. How do I set my xorg.conf now to get higher screen resolution--since
> > xorg now simply loves to simply using default configured everything?
>
> 1. Backup your current xorg.conf file.
> 2. X -configure
> I'm not sure about Debian 5, but previous versions of reconfiguring the
> X server "The Debian Way (TM)" didn't let X use its own probing which
> seems to work really well on the hardware I've done it on.  X -configure
> always worked out better for me.
The "debian way" does nothing. I do not have X-configure
>
> > 3. Best to use agp instead of pci (I think the two adjacent slots share
> > resources anyway)?
>
> AGP is newer and supports more data throughput than PCI, but both of
> those technologies are very old.  This is why I'm assuming you're not
> doing any heavy 3D work (graphics or games), so either/or will work for
> what you're using it for.
Apparently that voodoo is no slouch at all. Maybe I'll just go with the one my 
friend will sell me for less. KDE4 looks the same with both.
>
> > 4. Any other tips and docs around?
>
> Always wear a wool sweater and wool socks, then drag your feet on furry
> carpets before you begin working inside your PC.  When you feel the
> electricity arc between your fingertip and a component on your computer,
> everything should run twice as fast.
>
> JUST KIDDING!  Don't do that!
I've seen "professional" tech do just at that. Luckily I did not have a gun at 
the time.
>
> Next time you submit a question, it would be helpful to know which
> release of Debian you're using and which version of X. :-)
Debian Sid (KDE4 off experimental), Xorg off Sid. That fact that these cards 
played with no configuration is a great one-up on windows which paces you 
through the find and install new software routine. I just want my 1200 lines 
back. BTW, I compiled the voodoo 3d modules (stated as experimental) for the 
kernel but most likely uses glide for the voodoo since it worked without them.


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Re: Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs

2009-02-23 Thread Dennis Busboom
>> What made you suspect the video card?
>> The 2.6.28 kernel that you are running is vanilla or from unstable?

Ooops that was my fat fingers messing up.  I meant the 2.6._18_ kernel from 
etch.
All packages I've tried are from stable.  This box is very basic. Nothing it it 
but
the video card and a 3Com NIC.  Since the memory apperared ok, I figured I'd 
try the
adapters for fun. It sort of goes back to what an instructor taught us the 
first day
of field service class about 30 years ago "Never overlook the obvious, 
nor rule out the unlikely."  I'm presently compiling a custom 2.6.26 kernel 
from the
stable Debian source. I suspect it has something to do with the frame buffer 
support.
But I don't know yet if it's an issue with the kernel, or if I may have a flakey
video card on my hands.  Details as they become available, film at 11.

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Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny - aptitude ERROR

2009-02-23 Thread Csanyi Pal
Csanyi Pal  writes:

> Daniel Burrows  writes:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:06:48PM +0100, Csanyi Pal  
>> was heard to say:
>>> i386,
>>> 
>>> CPU AMD K6
>>
>>   I realized later that "cat /proc/cpuinfo" would also be useful.

>>> >   What does "ldd /usr/bin/apt-get" show?
>>
>>   That looks reasonable.  I'd suggest filing a bug on apt -- if anyone
>> reads it you'll at least get more people to look at the problem.  I
>> don't really know what to try next.

Now I search for a solution.

I edited again sources.list back to Etch:
deb http://ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/ etch main
deb-src http://ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/ etch main

did:
sudo apt-get update

but still can't get to works apt-get install aptitude

I try:
sudo dpkg --configure -a
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of aptitude:
 aptitude depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11; however:
  Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing aptitude (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 aptitude

I try:
 sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt-get
Package `apt-get' is not installed and no info is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: apt-get is not installed

How can I find the package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 to download it
and install it with dpkg?

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Re: application like iPhoto on Debian GNU/Linux Etch?

2009-02-23 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-02-23_10:27:43, Johann Spies wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 01:21:26AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > On 2009-02-15_23:09:10, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > is there an application on the Debian GNU/Linux Etch like iPhoto on
> > > the Mac OS X operating system?
> > > 
> > > With it one can to import some rendered images and make a movie with
> > > the File / Export command. 
> > > 
> > 
> > I spent a half hour today looking at Picasa for Linux. I prefer it to
> > iPhoto and am intending to install it on my daughter's Mac. I already
> > know that it plays much more nicely with non-Mac systems than iPhoto.
> 
> You can also look at digikam, kphotoalbum and f-spot.  I use f-spot a
> lot and it is improving with every new version.  Digikam and
> kphotoalbum has some other advantages. 
> 
> You can also look at qdvdauthor to create movies from a selection of
> images. 

My special problem is a family in which there are people with Mac( and 
iPhoto), and Windows, and me (with Debian). I want something that 
works reasonably well on all three. And for which moving picture files
among the three is trivial. For this, iPhoto is not an answer. Digikam
is a candidate, but it is not Mac compatible, SFAIK. But all these 
practical restrictions are subject to future developments, so none of
these opinions are likely to stand the test of time.

Also one family member has only 56kB modem access to the internet, so
picture sharing on the internet is not an option (for me). 

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Re: Vim tip (was Re: Suspend/Resume issues - Custom scripts not running? Mouse frozen?)

2009-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:49:29 +1300
Chris Bannister  wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 06:59:15AM +0100, Javier wrote:

...

> > Don't forget to chmod +x once saved.
> 
> If you use vim for your editing, put this in your .vimrc file:
> 
> " automatically give executable permissions if file begins with #! and
> " contains '/bin/' in the path
> 
> function ModeChange()
>   if getline(1) =~ "^#!"
> if getline(1) =~ "/bin/"
>   silent !chmod a+x 
> endif
>   endif
> endfunction
> 
> au BufWritePost * call ModeChange()

Neat!  I was getting rather tired of all those chmod +x 's ...

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Re: Wireless Setup Problem

2009-02-23 Thread Raquel
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:57:14 -0600
"Stackpole, Chris"  wrote:

> > What could have gone wrong?
> 
> I am guessing that you are using network-manager. I usually like
> network-manager, but the one consistent problem I have had with
> network-manager has been setting manual IP addresses. You may want
> to consider installing WICD instead. I, and many others, have had
> great luck with WICD.
> 
> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Have fun!
> ~Stack~

I have to agree with this.  I got my new laptop a month ago and have
been struggling with wireless on and off (because I'd get so
frustrated) for 3 weeks.  I finally gave up network-manager and
installed WICD (installing it will get rid of network-manager).

I too use static IPs.  With WICD it just worked.  Switch over.  I
don't think you'll be disappointed.

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Re: fish://host protocol died unexpectedly

2009-02-23 Thread H.S.
Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> H.S. wrote:
> 
>> Sam Leon wrote:
>>> H.S. wrote:
 Though I should start a new thread for this after I posted about this
 just now as a response to another user.

 Just a heads up in Testing. It appears there is a bug in konqueror or
 something because when I try to fish://u...@host I get
 ---
 An error occurred while loading fish://u...@host:
 The process for the fish://host protocol died unexpectedly.
 ---

 The remote host is running Debian Unstable. I tried this with a
 different host which is running Ubuntu Hardy (the LTS release) and got
 the same problem.
>>> If that fails then ssh is throwing back an error.  Trying connecting to
>>> the remote machine using the same user with ssh in a console and it
>>> might throw back an error about the host key changing or something...
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ssh and scp work fine to that machine. Only fish doesn't.
>>
>> ->HS
>>
> I've had exactly the same error from Konqueror using fish:// protocol. It
> seems to be sporadic and unpredictable. Sometimes it does it and sometimes
> the connection is made with no problem. Who knows why? Mostly it works
> though.
> cheers,
> Jonathan

You are right. It is working now. I have not updated this machine of
mine since last try so nothing has changed on my end.

I had reported this problem while connecting to two different machines
(one Sid, the other Ubuntu Hardy) and got exactly same problem. Now
connecting to both the machines work.

fish is kind of fishy here :)


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Re: no picture in vlc

2009-02-23 Thread Ken Teague

Vadim Kolchev wrote:
Got a slight problem with vlc - just installed it and it doesn't play 
videos - when I open avi file there is only audio from it and no 
picture. Why is it so?


In my experience, this has normally been a codec issue.  However, read 
Tim's reply and check your video output setting as well.



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GRUB: where does stage 1.5 if installting to partition boot record?

2009-02-23 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Where does GRUB install its stage 1.5 loader if you install GRUB into the
boot record of a partition (e.g., "setup (hd0,0)") rather than the master boot
record of the disk?

Thanks,
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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/23/2009 09:26 AM, Javier wrote:

Ron Johnson escribió:

On 02/23/2009 01:28 AM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:

2009/2/21 Javier :

I'm actually using encfs to protect my sensitive data,

Eh...

  http://xkcd.com/538/

That's known as Rubber Hose Decryption.




Oh yes, but if he had the chance to scape, at least the files continue
to be untouchable


Given enough time, and resources, *nothing* is untouchable.  It's 
just a matter of whether They think that the time-effort is worth 
being spent on *you*.



  and saving the data, could save other people
involved, too.
Note that they would kill or torture him anyway. Even they would kill
him faster if there were no encryption...


That might be a good thing.

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Re: New Video Card

2009-02-23 Thread Ken Teague

David Baron wrote:

1. Which is better (I assume the matrox but am willing to learn otherwise) ?


Allegedly, Matrox cards has had great support under X for quite some 
time.  I guess the real answer to this will be dependent upon what type 
of stuff you do on your PC.  I'm going to go out on a limb and assume 
"things that don't require a lot of 3D rendering".



2. How do I set my xorg.conf now to get higher screen resolution--since xorg 
now simply loves to simply using default configured everything?


1. Backup your current xorg.conf file.
2. X -configure
I'm not sure about Debian 5, but previous versions of reconfiguring the 
X server "The Debian Way (TM)" didn't let X use its own probing which 
seems to work really well on the hardware I've done it on.  X -configure 
always worked out better for me.



3. Best to use agp instead of pci (I think the two adjacent slots share 
resources anyway)?


AGP is newer and supports more data throughput than PCI, but both of 
those technologies are very old.  This is why I'm assuming you're not 
doing any heavy 3D work (graphics or games), so either/or will work for 
what you're using it for.




4. Any other tips and docs around?


Always wear a wool sweater and wool socks, then drag your feet on furry 
carpets before you begin working inside your PC.  When you feel the 
electricity arc between your fingertip and a component on your computer, 
everything should run twice as fast.


JUST KIDDING!  Don't do that!

Next time you submit a question, it would be helpful to know which 
release of Debian you're using and which version of X. :-)



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Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny - aptitude ERROR

2009-02-23 Thread Csanyi Pal
Daniel Burrows  writes:

> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:06:48PM +0100, Csanyi Pal  
> was heard to say:
>> i386,
>> 
>> CPU AMD K6
>
>   I realized later that "cat /proc/cpuinfo" would also be useful.

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 5
model   : 8
model name  : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
stepping: 12
cpu MHz : 451.024
cache size  : 64 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr cx8 pge mmx syscall 3dnow
k6_mtrr
bogomips: 903.35
clflush size: 32

>> >   What does "ldd /usr/bin/apt-get" show?
>
>   That looks reasonable.  I'd suggest filing a bug on apt -- if anyone
> reads it you'll at least get more people to look at the problem.  I
> don't really know what to try next.
>
>   One last idea: does it help at all if you delete /var/lib/apt/*.bin?
>
>   Daniel

I haven't any *.bin files in /var/lib/apt/ directory, just the
following directories:

/lists/partial/
ftp.hu.debian.org_debian_dists_lenny_Release
ftp.hu.debian.org_debian_dists_lenny_Release.gpg
ftp.hu.debian.org_debian_dists_lenny_main_binary-i386_Packages
ftp.hu.debian.org_debian_dists_lenny_main_source_Sources
lock

/periodic/

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Re: no picture in vlc

2009-02-23 Thread Tim Beauregard
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Vadim Kolchev wrote:
> Got a slight problem with vlc - just installed it and it doesn't play
> videos - when I open avi file there is only audio from it and no
> picture. Why is it so?

First place to look is the video output module in preferences.

HTH
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Samba PDC troubles

2009-02-23 Thread Fredrik Tolf
Hi list!

I've been playing a little with Samba lately, trying to make it a PDC
for a network of Windows computers (no, I don't particularly want them,
but it's kind of out of my hands), and I'm having some trouble. I hope
there's someone more knowledgeable than I with Samba who knows what
might be causing this.

See, to play around a bit, I set up a virtual network with an Etch
server and two XP clients running as KVM guests, and I managed to get it
all working as it should and as I want it, but when I try it out on the
real machine where it's supposed to be running, I can't get the
workstations to join it. The problem is that Samba isn't running as root
when it runs the "add machine script" and trying to do the actual work
of adding the workstation to the tdbsam database, so it gets permission
errors.

I can't find that I've configured the two machines differently in any
way that would matter, though. I've set up group mappings in the same
way, and I've verified that the user I'm logging in as to add the
machines is in Samba's "Administrators" group (which I've mapped to the
"adm" group on both the test server and the real server).

Does anyone know what could cause such behavior?

Thanks for reading!
Fredrik Tolf



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RE: Wireless Setup Problem

2009-02-23 Thread Stackpole, Chris

> From: Thomas H. George [mailto:li...@tomgeorge.info]
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:35 PM
> Subject: Wireless Setup Problem
> 
> I installed a Debian system including Gnome 2.22.3 on my OLPC (One
> Laptop per Child) laptop from a usb drive and tried to make a wireless
> connection to our LAN.
> 
> After numerous tries (details below) I succeeded yesterday afternoon.
> 
> Today nothing works.  When I put the cursor on the network icon the
> message "manual network configuration" appears and when I click on the
> icon the message "no network devices have been found" appears.  If I
> open a terminal and enter iwconfig everything is just I left it
> yesterday.
> 
> A part of the problem is that our LAN uses static ip addresses not
dhcp.
> Yesterday I tried iwconfig and ip commands without success. Finally,
in
> /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian I found I could edit
> /etc/network/interfaces and add to the iface eth1 inet static stanza
the
> lines
> 
>   wireless-essid foo
>   wireless-mode ad-hoc
> 
> Immediately after I did this putting the cursor on the network icon
> showed three signals - one for our lan and two for the neighbors.  The
> system connected to our lan and through the gateway to the internet.
> 
> As I said, today nothing works though iwconfig shows out essid and
mode
> ad-hoc and Link Quality=100/100 Signal Level=0 dBm Noise Lever= -96
dBm.
> 
> What could have gone wrong?

I am guessing that you are using network-manager. I usually like
network-manager, but the one consistent problem I have had with
network-manager has been setting manual IP addresses. You may want to
consider installing WICD instead. I, and many others, have had great
luck with WICD.

http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
Hope this helps!

Have fun!
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Wireless Setup Problem

2009-02-23 Thread Thomas H. George
I installed a Debian system including Gnome 2.22.3 on my OLPC (One
Laptop per Child) laptop from a usb drive and tried to make a wireless
connection to our LAN.

After numerous tries (details below) I succeeded yesterday afternoon.

Today nothing works.  When I put the cursor on the network icon the
message "manual network configuration" appears and when I click on the
icon the message "no network devices have been found" appears.  If I
open a terminal and enter iwconfig everything is just I left it
yesterday.

A part of the problem is that our LAN uses static ip addresses not dhcp.
Yesterday I tried iwconfig and ip commands without success. Finally, in
/usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian I found I could edit
/etc/network/interfaces and add to the iface eth1 inet static stanza the
lines

wireless-essid foo
wireless-mode ad-hoc

Immediately after I did this putting the cursor on the network icon
showed three signals - one for our lan and two for the neighbors.  The
system connected to our lan and through the gateway to the internet. 

As I said, today nothing works though iwconfig shows out essid and mode
ad-hoc and Link Quality=100/100 Signal Level=0 dBm Noise Lever= -96 dBm.

What could have gone wrong?


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Re: fish://host protocol died unexpectedly

2009-02-23 Thread Jonathan Kaye
H.S. wrote:

> Sam Leon wrote:
>> H.S. wrote:
>>> Though I should start a new thread for this after I posted about this
>>> just now as a response to another user.
>>>
>>> Just a heads up in Testing. It appears there is a bug in konqueror or
>>> something because when I try to fish://u...@host I get
>>> ---
>>> An error occurred while loading fish://u...@host:
>>> The process for the fish://host protocol died unexpectedly.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> The remote host is running Debian Unstable. I tried this with a
>>> different host which is running Ubuntu Hardy (the LTS release) and got
>>> the same problem.
> 
>> If that fails then ssh is throwing back an error.  Trying connecting to
>> the remote machine using the same user with ssh in a console and it
>> might throw back an error about the host key changing or something...
>> 
>> Sam
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> ssh and scp work fine to that machine. Only fish doesn't.
> 
> ->HS
> 
I've had exactly the same error from Konqueror using fish:// protocol. It
seems to be sporadic and unpredictable. Sometimes it does it and sometimes
the connection is made with no problem. Who knows why? Mostly it works
though.
cheers,
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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?

2009-02-23 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2009/2/23 Javier :
> The main point here is: if he is lucky enough, no police would enter
> into his house.

Since this has become a tinfoil hat thread more than an encryption thread...

My own personal solution to the problem has been this: my hard drive
decryption password is 25 random printable ASCII characters. And I do
mean random. It's something like >]\gj-eR4cn-nc;i...@{gawa*po, which I
have committed to *muscle memory*. That is, if you ask me what my
password is, I genuinely don't know it, because I have to sit in front
of a keyboard to type it out, and I often make mistakes. I also rotate
it once a year. My hope is that this means the password can't be
obtained from me under duress, because I would be unable to type it
out without making mistakes if I were under duress.

My paranoia is vaguely justified, since I live in Mexico and we do
have an ongoing history of torture in this country, although I'm not
too sure what the torturers could want from my hard drive except my
homemade pr0n (that's really the reason I encrypt my laptop's hard
drive, so that in case of theft my girlfriend and I don't end up in
RedTube). How do you justify your paranoia, Javier? ;-)

- Jordi G. H.


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Re: annoying waiting the installation connection?

2009-02-23 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-02-23_09:24:33, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> Hi,
> really I am annoying by waiting the network connection .
> When I install lenny, the installer try to get I don't know what from
> internet , while in fact I install just from the CD.
> I want to skip all things coming from network ( like security, rdate. ...)
> 
> thanks for help

Lenny doesn't fit on just one CD. The only alternative to waiting for
the internet, which I know of, is to download the full set of CD
images, burn the CDs, and then do the install. You might be able to
save some time by making a good guess as to which CDs you will
actually need (you might be surprised).  Even if you guess absolutely
opitimally, you still waste time downloading the stuff on those CDs
that you don't need (but is there because somebody else needs it).

The system that you get from just what is on the one CD does run and is
useful, but it does not have an impressive GUI interface. If that is
what you want, read the install notes for instructions on how to turn
off the installers attempts to access the internet. I'm pretty sure
you can find the instructions on the CD. 

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