Re: problème alsactl
François TOURDE wrote: Le 14443ième jour après Epoch, mess-m...@orange.fr écrivait: Bonjour, il y a pas grand-chose à trouver sur le net concernant ceci: Setting up ALSA...warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message alsactl: relocation error: alsactl: symbol snd_ctl_get_dB_range, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference'...done. Alsactl ne peut faire un store ou restore à cause de cela. Je suis en 2.6.26-amd64. Quelqu'un aurait une soluce ? Regarder dans bugs.debian.org aux entrées de alsa et libasound? J'imagine que tu es en Sid ? Dans ce cas, la seule réponse est BTS... Sinon, ldd de alsa et de la lib, et voir où il y a souci. Downgrader l'un ou l'autre, et hop... Merci pour la réponse, voici mon ldd: ldd /usr/sbin/alsactl linux-vdso.so.1 = (0x7fffdd934000) libasound.so.2 = /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0x7fb05e6a2000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7fb05e41f000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7fb05e21b000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fb05e00) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7fb05dcad000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7fb05e982000) je vois pas trop Je suis sous squeeze, pas de sid. amicalement -- mess-mate May you do Good Magic with Perl. -- Larry Wall's blessing -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
/etc/apt/preferences
Bonjour, voici mon* /etc/apt/preferences* : Package: iceweasel Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 990 Package: nvidia* Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 990 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 800 vous l'aurez compris j'aimerais bien installer la dernière version d'iceweasel et des pilotes nvidia. pour iceweasel j'ai un problème de dépendance. ni apt-get dist-upgrade ni aptitude safe-upgrade ne veulent avoir raison des dépendances. quels moyens y-a-t'il pour lui dire d'installer les dépendances (sans avoir à rajouter un par un les paquets dans le fichier *preferences* évidement) ? pour nvidia, je n'ai pas de retour de apt-cache policy, alors que j'ai bien celui ci pour iceweasel : Paquets étiquetés : iceweasel - 3.5.1-1 des idées ? merci !!
Re: Problème de audio device ?
mess-mate wrote: Bonjour, j'ai toujours pas de son avec ma nouvelle configuration. Je suis sous squeeze et voilà ce que donne: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec: Codec: Realtek ALC888 Un lspci -k me donne: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82fe Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Un aplay -l me donne: List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Dans le manuel de asus, ma carte mère est une P5Q Pro, il est spécifié: Audio: Realtek ALC1200 8-channel High Definition Audio Codec Ce qui me donne 3 différents ACL: un 888, un 883 et un 1200. Le noyau est un 2.6.26-amd64. Quelqu'un aurait une solution ? Merci d'avance Amicalement Bonjour, j'ai finalement du son... C'est bien un Realtek ALC1200. Il est détecté en installant un noyau 2.6.30-amd64 que j'ai compilé moi-même. Il fallait au moins cette version de noyau ! J'ai ajouté dans alsa-base.conf options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1. Par contre dans /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz ce modèle ne s'y trouve pas, trop récent ? Merci à tous pour l'aide et pourvu que ça dure... amicalement -- mess-mate May you do Good Magic with Perl. -- Larry Wall's blessing -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problème de audio device ?
j'ai finalement du son... C'est bien un Realtek ALC1200. Il est détecté en installant un noyau 2.6.30-amd64 que j'ai compilé moi-même. Il fallait au moins cette version de noyau ! J'ai ajouté dans alsa-base.conf options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1. Par contre dans /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz ce modèle ne s'y trouve pas, trop récent ? Merci à tous pour l'aide et pourvu que ça dure... amicalement -- mess-mate ... si ça peut aider ... Salut, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.18rc3_v1.0.18 version du 2008-10-29, ton modèle apparaît pour la 1ère fois, 1er support http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.18_v1.0.19 version du 2009-01-19 , là il apparaît, ça règle des problèmes de noms et de reconnaissance du bon modèle pour certaine carte mère à priori. http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.19_v1.0.20 version du 2009-05-06 , dernière version de alsa, là, il apparaît aussi, ceci concernant des modifs pour les sorties digitales et SPDIF. bref, modèle récent ... A+ mon cher Watson Olivier -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
[H.S.] Virtualbox 3.02
Après un essai de mise à jour malheureux de Virtualbox de la version 2.2 à 3.02 (corruption des fichiers d'initialisation... Ca n'est pas la première fois que cela arrive) je tente une installation à neuf de Virtalbox 3.02. Le problème est que quoi que je fasse virtualbox ne voit pas mon lecteur de DVD-CD. Je suis sous testing à jour et AMD-64 dual Core. Mon lecteur est /dev/hda avec un lien symbolique sur /dev/cdrom. Quelqu'un aurait-il eu ce pb ? P. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [H.S.] Virtualbox 3.02
pascatgm a écrit : ... à 3.02 (corruption des fichiers d'initialisation... Ca n'est pas la première fois que cela arrive) vérifie ta RAM -- Only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core. -- Hannah Arendt. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problème de audio device ?
humbert.olivie...@free.fr wrote: j'ai finalement du son... C'est bien un Realtek ALC1200. Il est détecté en installant un noyau 2.6.30-amd64 que j'ai compilé moi-même. Il fallait au moins cette version de noyau ! J'ai ajouté dans alsa-base.conf options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1. Par contre dans /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz ce modèle ne s'y trouve pas, trop récent ? Merci à tous pour l'aide et pourvu que ça dure... amicalement -- mess-mate ... si ça peut aider ... Salut, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.18rc3_v1.0.18 version du 2008-10-29, ton modèle apparaît pour la 1ère fois, 1er support http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.18_v1.0.19 version du 2009-01-19 , là il apparaît, ça règle des problèmes de noms et de reconnaissance du bon modèle pour certaine carte mère à priori. http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.19_v1.0.20 version du 2009-05-06 , dernière version de alsa, là, il apparaît aussi, ceci concernant des modifs pour les sorties digitales et SPDIF. bref, modèle récent ... A+ mon cher Watson Olivier Merci mais je cherchais le modèle à insérer dans alsa-base.conf. Mon modèle n'est pas spécifié dans hd-audio-models.txt. J'ai finalement ajouté options snd-hda-intel model=alc1200_asus_p5q probe_mask=1 Faut voir si cela change quelque chose. Pour l'instant ça marche via le jack output et des enceintes amplifiées. Comme je suis pas un spécialiste dans l'audio .. Enfin, depuis les années que je suis sous linux j'ai toujours connu des problèmes de son lorsque le son était devenu disponible. amicalement -- mess-mate May you do Good Magic with Perl. -- Larry Wall's blessing -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [H.S.] Virtualbox 3.02
Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit : pascatgm a écrit : ... à 3.02 (corruption des fichiers d'initialisation... Ca n'est pas la première fois que cela arrive) vérifie ta RAM Peut-être mais... 1° ca ne me fait ca qu'avec Virtualbox...Et 2° de toute façon j'ai tout effacé et repart à zéro...Enfin je voudrais bien car j'ai ce pb de détection du lecteur... Merci pour la réponse. P. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [H.S.] Virtualbox 3.02
pascatgm a écrit : Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit : pascatgm a écrit : ... à 3.02 (corruption des fichiers d'initialisation... Ca n'est pas la première fois que cela arrive) vérifie ta RAM Peut-être mais... 1° ca ne me fait ca qu'avec Virtualbox...Et alors 1- vérifie-là quand même (ça ne fera pas de mal), 2- ldd semblant ne pas fonctionner avec les executables, vérifie les dépendances (dselect par ex.) et réinstalle-les toutes; histoire de voir si le PB viendrait de là, 3- si la corruption continue, fait un rapport de bug à VB 2° de toute façon j'ai tout effacé et repart à zéro...Enfin je voudrais bien car j'ai ce pb de détection du lecteur... ptêt qu'il attend un lecteur en SCSI, met-le en mode sg générique pour voir (c'est une supputation extensivement supputatoire, vu que je n'ai pas de 64bits :) -- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /etc/apt/preferences
Bonjour, voici mon/ /etc/apt/preferences/ : Package: iceweasel Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 990 Package: nvidia* Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 990 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 800 vous l'aurez compris j'aimerais bien installer la dernière version d'iceweasel et des pilotes nvidia. pour iceweasel j'ai un problème de dépendance. ni apt-get dist-upgrade ni aptitude safe-upgrade ne veulent avoir raison des dépendances. quels moyens y-a-t'il pour lui dire d'installer les dépendances (sans avoir à rajouter un par un les paquets dans le fichier /preferences/ évidement) ? Ce que je fais: je met la ligne relative a experimental dans sources.list par defaut la Priority est très faible ( 1 ?) et je vire les lignes relatives à experimental dans preferences. Ensuite aptitude update et aptitude install iceweasel=3.5-1 et tu regardes les paquets qu'il veut installer ... s'il y a du lourd (libc6,...) , laisse tomber la méthode et tu as encore au moins 2 possibilités. - Tu recup le source dans experimental que tu recompiles à la mode debian (dpkg-buildpackage) - Tu recup le paquet binaire firefox chez mozilla ... Guy -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
problèm e de passage en UTF-8
Bonjour, J'ai upgradé ma machine, un portable Dell Latitude D620 sus Debian, de Etch à Lenny et j'en ai profité pour remplacer le noyau par celui préconisé, le 2.6.26-2. J'ai voulu également passer en UTF-8 et là, tout est devenu compliqué. Pour commencer, j'ai remplacé la paquet console-tools par kbd, c'était apparemment conseillé à plusieurs endroit. Et effectivement, les symptômes sont devenus «moins pires»... Il semble que le problème viennent du changement de noyau plutôt que de l'upgrade vers Lenny. Avant cet upgrade, j'avais justement essayé le noyau 2.6.24 et j'avais déjà remarqué des problèmes. Je n'ai pas essayé le 2.6.22 qui n'est pas proposé par aptitude search 2.6.22. À propos des locales, la commande locale -a m'indique bien que j'ai ce qu'il faut pour l'UTF-8 (fr_FR.utf8). J'ai donc initialisé les variables d'environnement indiquées par la commande locale, à cette valeur. quelques symptômes 1) le passage à UTF-8 se passe apparemment bien sur la première console mais pas sur les suivantes - sur la première j'ai bien les caractères encodés en UTF-8 mais sur les suivantes, je me retrouve avec la décomposition des séquences UTF-8, par ex. les caractères ayant pour codes 0xc3 0xa9 pour le é. - Toujours sur les consoles autres que la première, la commande dumpkeys ne me donne pas de définition pour les caractères accentués. 2) lorsque je veux forcer le ISO-8859-1 pour me connecter par SSH sur des machines n'étant pas en UTF-8, ça se passe mal. J'avoue ne pas savoir même où aller. Il est probable que ce problème d'UTF-8 ne soit que le symptôme de quelque chose de plus profond. La machine concernée est bien un portable. Y aurait-il une particularité à ce niveau ? Je n'ai rien trouvé sur le web à ce sujet. Si quelqu'un parmi vous avait une piste, ça pourrait me faire avancer, car là, j'ai l'impression de tourner en rond. Bien cordialement. Dominique -- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
mutt
Bonjour la liste, Je termine d'installer Lenny et lors d'un envoi avec Mutt j'obtiens le message :Pas d'authenficateurs disponibles Le problème est apparut lorsque j'indique dans mon ~.muttrc : set smtp_url='smtps://username:passw...@smtp.gmail.com:465' Hors cette même ligne ne pose aucun problème sous Etch. Je suspecte d'avoir oublié un paquet. Mais lequel?
Re: problème de passage en UTF-8
Dominique Asselineau a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai upgradé ma machine, un portable Dell Latitude D620 sus Debian, de Etch à Lenny et j'en ai profité pour remplacer le noyau par celui préconisé, le 2.6.26-2. J'ai voulu également passer en UTF-8 et là, tout est devenu compliqué. Pour commencer, j'ai remplacé la paquet console-tools par kbd, c'était apparemment conseillé à plusieurs endroit. Et effectivement, les symptômes sont devenus «moins pires»... Il semble que le problème viennent du changement de noyau plutôt que de l'upgrade vers Lenny. Avant cet upgrade, j'avais justement essayé le noyau 2.6.24 et j'avais déjà remarqué des problèmes. Je n'ai pas essayé le 2.6.22 qui n'est pas proposé par aptitude search 2.6.22. À propos des locales, la commande locale -a m'indique bien que j'ai ce qu'il faut pour l'UTF-8 (fr_FR.utf8). J'ai donc initialisé les variables d'environnement indiquées par la commande locale, à cette valeur. quelques symptômes 1) le passage à UTF-8 se passe apparemment bien sur la première console mais pas sur les suivantes - sur la première j'ai bien les caractères encodés en UTF-8 mais sur les suivantes, je me retrouve avec la décomposition des séquences UTF-8, par ex. les caractères ayant pour codes 0xc3 0xa9 pour le é. - Toujours sur les consoles autres que la première, la commande dumpkeys ne me donne pas de définition pour les caractères accentués. 2) lorsque je veux forcer le ISO-8859-1 pour me connecter par SSH sur des machines n'étant pas en UTF-8, ça se passe mal. J'avoue ne pas savoir même où aller. Il est probable que ce problème d'UTF-8 ne soit que le symptôme de quelque chose de plus profond. La machine concernée est bien un portable. Y aurait-il une particularité à ce niveau ? Je n'ai rien trouvé sur le web à ce sujet. Si quelqu'un parmi vous avait une piste, ça pourrait me faire avancer, car là, j'ai l'impression de tourner en rond. Bien cordialement. Dominique J'ai aussi le même soucis mais moi sur la première console UTF-8 bien chargé mais aucun caractère accentué. J'ai lu je ne sais plus où que les autres console ne geraient pas l'UTF-8 (de 2 à 6) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: problèm e de passage en UTF-8
Le Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:01:26PM +0200, Florentin Garnier a écrit : J'ai lu je ne sais plus où Certainement sur le wiki Debian :) http://wiki.debian.org/fr/UTF-8 Amicalement, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japon -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mutt
Le Sunday 19 July 2009 21:21:47 Michaël Pierson, vous avez écrit : Bonjour la liste, Je termine d'installer Lenny et lors d'un envoi avec Mutt j'obtiens le message :Pas d'authenficateurs disponibles Le problème est apparut lorsque j'indique dans mon ~.muttrc : set smtp_url='smtps://username:passw...@smtp.gmail.com:465' Hors cette même ligne ne pose aucun problème sous Etch. Je suspecte d'avoir oublié un paquet. Mais lequel? :: Mutt et Google Gmail: http://www.lefinnois.net/wp/index.php/2008/02/15/mutt-et-google-gmail/ @+ -- (o_ (/)_ S e r g e -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
Aupa: Que ganas tiene de montar bronca, no leerte lo que escribimos y ser incapaz de argumentar. Me acabas de enviar dos privados, mal mu mal. eso no se hace. te voy a explicar porque. amos educarte un poco. Esta es una lista publica el conocimiento fluye libremente, no hay moderación. Para tener una lista adecuada y funcional, esto es que se traten los temas que se tienen que tratar. Y no putos flames diciendo tonterias. Ha unas normas consensuadas para el buen gobierno de la lista. Leetelas por favor y veras que tus aportaciones se estan saliendo del tiesto. me refiero a este tio: Gustavo B gustavo...@gmail.com No nos conocemos de nada NO ME MANDES PRIVADOS Gustavo me has tocado mucho las narices. Así que le voy a aplicar el castigo máximo en un lista de correo. No me vas a molestar mas. Gustavo /dev/null sa cabo Un saludo BasaBuru P.D. periodicamente aparecen en la lista capullos como tu... solución la misma signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Salvapantallas no inicia.
Con gnome-screensaver corriendo, trata bloquear la pantalla con el comando gnome-screensaver-command -l para ver si te da algún mensaje de error. -- Saludos, Roberto De Oliveira -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
El 19 de julio de 2009 10:26, BasaBurubasab...@basatu.org escribió: Aupa: Que ganas tiene de montar bronca, no leerte lo que escribimos y ser incapaz de argumentar. Me acabas de enviar dos privados, mal mu mal. eso no se hace. te voy a explicar porque. amos educarte un poco. Esta es una lista publica el conocimiento fluye libremente, no hay moderación. Para tener una lista adecuada y funcional, esto es que se traten los temas que se tienen que tratar. Y no putos flames diciendo tonterias. Ha unas normas consensuadas para el buen gobierno de la lista. Leetelas por favor y veras que tus aportaciones se estan saliendo del tiesto. me refiero a este tio: Gustavo B gustavo...@gmail.com No nos conocemos de nada NO ME MANDES PRIVADOS Gustavo me has tocado mucho las narices. Así que le voy a aplicar el castigo máximo en un lista de correo. No me vas a molestar mas. Gustavo /dev/null sa cabo Un saludo BasaBuru P.D. periodicamente aparecen en la lista capullos como tu... solución la misma Otra vez usted señor Burro! Ya en otra ocasión nos hemos encontrado usted y yo difiriendo de cómo resolver problemas como este, La vez pasada el que se pasó (CON TODA LA LISTA) fue usted dirimiendo problemas personales en público. A mi como usuario de la lista, no me importa si usted ha estado aquí desde siempre. Pareciera que el hecho de que ya esté viejo le diera privilegios, ...Y NO ES ASÍ!! Si cuando le tocan las narices, se pone usted como fiera, ese no es asunto de los demás. Por situaciones como esta, ya tiene usted fama de prepotente y bravucón desde hace tiempo. Si el señor Gustavo B le ha enviado un privado (UNA CLARA VIOLACIÓN A LAS REGLAS DE LA LISTA) por favor resuelva sus problemas EN PRIVADO y evítenos las molestias de recibir un correo POR DEMÁS INÚTIL. Por respeto a la lista le recuerdo lo que la misma dice al respecto: La lista debian-user-spanish se ha creado para: Support for Debian users that speak Spanish. (High-volume mailing list.) Es decir, es la lista de ayuda a usuarios de Debian en castellano. Support se traduce en el lenguaje coloquial mas bien como apoyo, pero en el mundo tecnologico se suele traducir como soporte tecnico o ayuda. El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse. http://wiki.debian.org/NormasListaASCII http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista ¿AYUDA O SOPORTE TÉCNICO le dicen algo Señor BasaBuru? ¿El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse, le dice algo señor BasaBuru? ¿La educación le dice algo SEÑOR BURRO? Le cito a usted: ...Y no putos flames diciendo tonterias. ¡¡ POR FAVOR, CARAMBA SEÑOR BURRO !! ¡¡¡ EVÍTENOS EN LO SUCESIVO RECIBIR CORREOS COMO ESTE !!! Desde Alemania un saludo. Javier F. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 19/07/2009 17:07, Javier Flores Aldape escribió: *PLONK* Otro más para los filtros. ¿Pero es que, no hay educación en la lista? ¡YA ESTÁ BIEN DE SUPER-MALEDUCADOS EN LA LISTA! Al próximo que vea un insulto más, va para los filtros. Avisado queda. - -- Slds. de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBSmM4soFZAuZYtJmMAQrc8xAAsPl8zw4rTLpBpChqzmjzoydr6N5X0f9q H4F7xgfmb/r8nxof6w8vRkBkV8I1xjXgQr2LNwlXC0t2Z8tYpY8xSwRUdzf4dbGo JAD6x4pcH0/viCGalLCzaPSwBqWQ9HSjAIBPO/4R52Vj0MDKAmWFzD9pfYB4Pr1w 0IL5+HRs0WXR3GGo7oSbOHz4VoY4IrXifkxeh46NgS9zn/cChj0mH2HHBwo533Zy d7aOC6D1AOxgjFOI13SX9HEK50bZ1bKIJP65cgrn5eZchOa7WJW31cmgBPhm75cT hUfqNXYvngZK6NgrdtH9JGKNHhKp3YJPUQhc59+t76g83kX1hNfgFpkipUkLkfWk BMM5Nbr5NhTxKtMA76vGi30ZUhi4htdxd/qiYFXPLQmlWr2m9Cg/W7nqmtk8V1dE XHxxt3Erwc5REQBfBBIwG/WAJS/TeBElnl5XCant+QojfysLi7qNxMpnG36UhH0M mv1ndrERXRk2EtF1Omgf1+RtVa/5r3scp1VRqODXKtSfXtnag0y85eqxGUxpIONB xlINjKWUR3RPB3ZEe5CgMxeM4lBCMSpVsDJH0C4Gkvkd1Y49sIFrfn/IB5k4YA2u MbsUsMgfDPc8X27Vjpyp+DGvtasasyd8MtQJc3x3vbcORCbLW1hzK+ME430LWpgM MmiTUMaQz4k= =pjDL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
2009/7/19 Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@yahoo.es: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 19/07/2009 17:07, Javier Flores Aldape escribió: *PLONK* Otro más para los filtros. ¿Pero es que, no hay educación en la lista? ¡YA ESTÁ BIEN DE SUPER-MALEDUCADOS EN LA LISTA! Al próximo que vea un insulto más, va para los filtros. Avisado queda. - -- Slds. de Santiago José López Borrazás. A propósito del tema, ¿cuál es la norma de la lista respecto a responder a correos que infringen las normas de la lista? Por que creo que si no existe una, debieramos añadirla. Simplemente no responderle, o sino escribirle en privado que está cometiendo una falta y que lea las normas, sería suficiente. Por cierto que responder en privado en las normas se refiere a contestar públicamente para que todos aprendamos. Si alguien tiene un tema privado que hablar con otra persona escribirle en privado es lo ideal, y lo que haga el destinatario con dicho correo (leeerlo, ignorarlo, etc) es también cosa privada entre ellos. Saludos -- Linux Registered User # 386081 A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
On Domingo 19 Julio 2009 17:07:12 Javier Flores Aldape escribió: Otra vez usted señor Burro! joder empiezas bien. Ya en otra ocasión nos hemos encontrado usted y yo difiriendo de cómo resolver problemas como este, La vez pasada el que se pasó (CON TODA LA LISTA) fue usted dirimiendo problemas personales en público. A mi como usuario de la lista, no me importa si usted ha estado aquí desde siempre. Pareciera que el hecho de que ya esté viejo le diera privilegios, ...Y NO ES ASÍ!! Guilipollas, lo único que me puede llegar a aportar algún respeto son mis aportaciones y el soporte que pueda dar. debian/rules tio. Si cuando le tocan las narices, se pone usted como fiera, ese no es asunto de los demás. Por situaciones como esta, ya tiene usted fama de prepotente y bravucón desde hace tiempo. Pero es que de verdad no eres capaz de razonar, debatir, argumentar. Yo he dado argumentos de mucho peso. Pero de eso no quieres hablar, solo faltar al respeto. Si el señor Gustavo B le ha enviado un privado (UNA CLARA VIOLACIÓN A LAS REGLAS DE LA LISTA) por favor resuelva sus problemas EN PRIVADO y evítenos las molestias de recibir un correo POR DEMÁS INÚTIL. Eres estúpido, un principio básico de esta lista es que fluya el conocimiento libremente y a la vista de todos. Si estas en la lista escribes a la lista no lanzas un privado. Es decir, es la lista de ayuda a usuarios de Debian en castellano. Support se traduce en el lenguaje coloquial mas bien como apoyo, pero en el mundo tecnologico se suele traducir como soporte tecnico o ayuda. El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse. Mira como no te enteras de lo que es un debian user. Hay comunidad y entorno social. Según tu, no tendríamos comunidad puesto que no se podrían debatir temas que no fueran estrictamente apoyo técnico. No tienes ni puta idea de donde estas. ¿AYUDA O SOPORTE TÉCNICO le dicen algo Señor BasaBuru? Ya te he respondido mas arriba. ¿El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse, le dice algo señor BasaBuru? Pues si que no te enteras ya te lo he contestado mas arriba ¿La educación le dice algo SEÑOR BURRO? Le cito a usted: ...Y no putos flames diciendo tonterias. joder otra vez haciendo amigos. Y si putos flames.. que ha sido si no el del proftp??? ¡¡ POR FAVOR, CARAMBA SEÑOR BURRO !! Mira tio no me chilles, no sabes tampoco de netetiqueta??? ¡¡¡ EVÍTENOS EN LO SUCESIVO RECIBIR CORREOS COMO ESTE !!! Pues la verdad es que te has lucido. BasaBuru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
2009/7/19 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org: On Domingo 19 Julio 2009 17:07:12 Javier Flores Aldape escribió: Otra vez usted señor Burro! joder empiezas bien. Ya en otra ocasión nos hemos encontrado usted y yo difiriendo de cómo resolver problemas como este, La vez pasada el que se pasó (CON TODA LA LISTA) fue usted dirimiendo problemas personales en público. A mi como usuario de la lista, no me importa si usted ha estado aquí desde siempre. Pareciera que el hecho de que ya esté viejo le diera privilegios, ...Y NO ES ASÍ!! Guilipollas, lo único que me puede llegar a aportar algún respeto son mis aportaciones y el soporte que pueda dar. debian/rules tio. Si cuando le tocan las narices, se pone usted como fiera, ese no es asunto de los demás. Por situaciones como esta, ya tiene usted fama de prepotente y bravucón desde hace tiempo. Pero es que de verdad no eres capaz de razonar, debatir, argumentar. Yo he dado argumentos de mucho peso. Pero de eso no quieres hablar, solo faltar al respeto. Si el señor Gustavo B le ha enviado un privado (UNA CLARA VIOLACIÓN A LAS REGLAS DE LA LISTA) por favor resuelva sus problemas EN PRIVADO y evítenos las molestias de recibir un correo POR DEMÁS INÚTIL. Eres estúpido, un principio básico de esta lista es que fluya el conocimiento libremente y a la vista de todos. Si estas en la lista escribes a la lista no lanzas un privado. Es decir, es la lista de ayuda a usuarios de Debian en castellano. Support se traduce en el lenguaje coloquial mas bien como apoyo, pero en el mundo tecnologico se suele traducir como soporte tecnico o ayuda. El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse. Mira como no te enteras de lo que es un debian user. Hay comunidad y entorno social. Según tu, no tendríamos comunidad puesto que no se podrían debatir temas que no fueran estrictamente apoyo técnico. No tienes ni puta idea de donde estas. ¿AYUDA O SOPORTE TÉCNICO le dicen algo Señor BasaBuru? Ya te he respondido mas arriba. ¿El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse, le dice algo señor BasaBuru? Pues si que no te enteras ya te lo he contestado mas arriba ¿La educación le dice algo SEÑOR BURRO? Le cito a usted: ...Y no putos flames diciendo tonterias. joder otra vez haciendo amigos. Y si putos flames.. que ha sido si no el del proftp??? ¡¡ POR FAVOR, CARAMBA SEÑOR BURRO !! Mira tio no me chilles, no sabes tampoco de netetiqueta??? ¡¡¡ EVÍTENOS EN LO SUCESIVO RECIBIR CORREOS COMO ESTE !!! Pues la verdad es que te has lucido. BasaBuru Eh .. se supone que no se contestarian los flames? No alimenten al troll. -- Atte, Maximiliano Marin http://blog.maximilianomarin.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
On Domingo 19 Julio 2009 21:24:43 Maximiliano Marin Bustos escribió: Eh .. se supone que no se contestarian los flames? No alimenten al troll. Pues si, la verdad es que tienes razón pero no me he podido resistir ante tanto desproposito. En fin. BasaBuru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
El 19 de julio de 2009 14:31, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió: On Domingo 19 Julio 2009 21:24:43 Maximiliano Marin Bustos escribió: Eh .. se supone que no se contestarian los flames? No alimenten al troll. Pues si, la verdad es que tienes razón pero no me he podido resistir ante tanto desproposito. En fin. BasaBuru Una trova para calmar los ánimos, y dice: Ayer pasé por tu casa y saliste por la ventana me tiraste un celular y casi me Nokias. :-P -- LARGA VIDA Y PODEROSA.
Re: cambiar resolucion debian lenny
El día 18/07/09, Marc budalok...@gmail.com escribió: En/na Ing. Herwin Huillcen ha escrit: Sres debianitas tengo el problema que tengo una resolucion de 1280x800, pero deseo bajarla a 800x600, tengo debian lenny, favor de ayudarme envio mi xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout latam EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse EndSection Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Configured Monitor EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor EndSection gracias de antemano Si usas kde yo ejecutaría krandrtray (creo que del paquete kcontrol ) y ahí podrás elegir fácilmente entre los modos que tienes disponibles. Parece que en gnome hay un paquete equivalente: gnome-randr-applet pero no lo he probado nunca. Si lo que te apetece es toquetear el xorg.conf, yo modificaría la sección Screen y la dejaría así: Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor SubSection Display Modes 800x600 EndSubSection EndSection Paz y Amor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Estimado Manuel, mi chip es una ATI Radeon X1200. Estimado Marc, hice lo que me dijiste y nada, aun sigue con la resolucion de 1280x800, todos los comandos me dan solo esa unica opcion de resolucion, la quiero bajar a 800x600 pues tengo que proyectar en un cañon multimedia que solo acepta esa resolucion. espero que me puedan ayudar -- - Herwin Alayn Huillcen Baca. Ingº de Sistemas y Telecomunicaciones Registro Colegio de Ingenieros del Peru: 66986 Tte Comunicaciones Ejercito Peruano Numero Administrativo: 122408500
Re: danjad este hilo porfa Re: [OT] Re: proftpd
El sáb, 18-07-2009 a las 13:03 +, Sergio BEss escribió: El Saturday 18 July 2009 15:55:32 BasaBuru escribió: On Sábado 18 Julio 2009 17:43:56 Felix Perez escribió: Carece de sentido perder el tiempo con quien no quiere que el ayuden. EL PRIMER sito donde buscar info esta en el repositorio de debian. En tu máquina Así que dejemonos de escusas tontas sobre el ancho de banda. Se trata de ser un usuario debian.. debian/rules me explico? Eso solo se hace leyendo y no molestando a la gente con preguntas gilipollas. Un saludo BasaBuru NO sean miserables!! Si el que preguntaba eso era un idiota de EEUU seguro que además le agradecen la participación, pero como es de Cuba lo defenestran. Por favor, con NO RESPONDER es suficiente. y si tanto les molesta el tiempo perdido en contestar algo que se presume obvio, entonces para qué lo hacen también discutiendo y aleccionando como su fueran rectores de la conducta humana. Por favor, BASTA de darle palos a los usuarios de Cuba. Sergio Bess Que tiene que ver la politica en todo esto?? Hay idiotas en USA como hay idiotas en Cuba, como los hay en todo el mundo NO proyectes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[OT] Llaveros de Debian
Hola Finalmente no he podido mover mi vuelo para asistir a la debconf :( ,pero tengo conmigo un lote de algo mas de 150 llaveros en cuero hechos a mano que he traido de Colombia [1] y que esperaba vender en la debconf , lo comento por si alguien o algun grupo estaría interezado en adquirirlo por el precio de costo para financiar algun evento o hacer difusión . Estarán disponibles hasta el martes en la tarde en valencia y hasta el 23 en madrid, tambien los podria enviar a otro lado. si a alguién le intereza por favor contactarme por este medio o al movil 693700836 salu2 freed [1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/34340...@n06/3706178701/in/photostream/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Re: librerias
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:55 PM, JOSE BARBOSAjoma_b...@hotmail.com wrote: _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the web’s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009cat=sports -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Jose: Hotmail no funciona en firefox en linux -- Atte, Maximiliano Marin http://blog.maximilianomarin.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
El 19 de julio de 2009 16:14, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió: On Domingo 19 Julio 2009 17:07:12 Javier Flores Aldape escribió: Otra vez usted señor Burro! joder empiezas bien. Ya en otra ocasión nos hemos encontrado usted y yo difiriendo de cómo resolver problemas como este, La vez pasada el que se pasó (CON TODA LA LISTA) fue usted dirimiendo problemas personales en público. A mi como usuario de la lista, no me importa si usted ha estado aquí desde siempre. Pareciera que el hecho de que ya esté viejo le diera privilegios, ...Y NO ES ASÍ!! Guilipollas, lo único que me puede llegar a aportar algún respeto son mis aportaciones y el soporte que pueda dar. debian/rules tio. Si cuando le tocan las narices, se pone usted como fiera, ese no es asunto de los demás. Por situaciones como esta, ya tiene usted fama de prepotente y bravucón desde hace tiempo. Pero es que de verdad no eres capaz de razonar, debatir, argumentar. Yo he dado argumentos de mucho peso. Pero de eso no quieres hablar, solo faltar al respeto. Si el señor Gustavo B le ha enviado un privado (UNA CLARA VIOLACIÓN A LAS REGLAS DE LA LISTA) por favor resuelva sus problemas EN PRIVADO y evítenos las molestias de recibir un correo POR DEMÁS INÚTIL. Eres estúpido, un principio básico de esta lista es que fluya el conocimiento libremente y a la vista de todos. Si estas en la lista escribes a la lista no lanzas un privado. Es decir, es la lista de ayuda a usuarios de Debian en castellano. Support se traduce en el lenguaje coloquial mas bien como apoyo, pero en el mundo tecnologico se suele traducir como soporte tecnico o ayuda. El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse. Mira como no te enteras de lo que es un debian user. Hay comunidad y entorno social. Según tu, no tendríamos comunidad puesto que no se podrían debatir temas que no fueran estrictamente apoyo técnico. No tienes ni puta idea de donde estas. ¿AYUDA O SOPORTE TÉCNICO le dicen algo Señor BasaBuru? Ya te he respondido mas arriba. ¿El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse, le dice algo señor BasaBuru? Pues si que no te enteras ya te lo he contestado mas arriba ¿La educación le dice algo SEÑOR BURRO? Le cito a usted: ...Y no putos flames diciendo tonterias. joder otra vez haciendo amigos. Y si putos flames.. que ha sido si no el del proftp??? ¡¡ POR FAVOR, CARAMBA SEÑOR BURRO !! Mira tio no me chilles, no sabes tampoco de netetiqueta??? ¡¡¡ EVÍTENOS EN LO SUCESIVO RECIBIR CORREOS COMO ESTE !!! Pues la verdad es que te has lucido. BasaBuru Y si no tegusta que te escriba al privado te lo mando a la lista. Te decía, que dejes de escribir al pedo y te concentres en el trabajo, que no seas insolente con quienes solo hacen preguntas, y de paso que hagas una pequeña revisión de tus mensajes a la lista para que puedas apreciar lo arrogante que podés ser a veces, ¿entendiste mamalaguasca?
Re: danjad este hilo porfa Re: [OT] Re: proftpd
El 19 de julio de 2009 20:00, Angel Claudio Alvarez dus.an...@gmail.comescribió: El sáb, 18-07-2009 a las 13:03 +, Sergio BEss escribió: El Saturday 18 July 2009 15:55:32 BasaBuru escribió: On Sábado 18 Julio 2009 17:43:56 Felix Perez escribió: Carece de sentido perder el tiempo con quien no quiere que el ayuden. EL PRIMER sito donde buscar info esta en el repositorio de debian. En tu máquina Así que dejemonos de escusas tontas sobre el ancho de banda. Se trata de ser un usuario debian.. debian/rules me explico? Eso solo se hace leyendo y no molestando a la gente con preguntas gilipollas. Un saludo BasaBuru NO sean miserables!! Si el que preguntaba eso era un idiota de EEUU seguro que además le agradecen la participación, pero como es de Cuba lo defenestran. Por favor, con NO RESPONDER es suficiente. y si tanto les molesta el tiempo perdido en contestar algo que se presume obvio, entonces para qué lo hacen también discutiendo y aleccionando como su fueran rectores de la conducta humana. Por favor, BASTA de darle palos a los usuarios de Cuba. Sergio Bess Que tiene que ver la politica en todo esto?? Hay idiotas en USA como hay idiotas en Cuba, como los hay en todo el mundo NO proyectes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Definitivamente, está lleno de imbeciles en todas partes XD
Re: Un poquito de educación y respeto a las normas de lista
El 19 de julio de 2009 21:31, Gustavo Bgustavo...@gmail.com escribió: El 19 de julio de 2009 16:14, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió: On Domingo 19 Julio 2009 17:07:12 Javier Flores Aldape escribió: Otra vez usted señor Burro! joder empiezas bien. Ya en otra ocasión nos hemos encontrado usted y yo difiriendo de cómo resolver problemas como este, La vez pasada el que se pasó (CON TODA LA LISTA) fue usted dirimiendo problemas personales en público. A mi como usuario de la lista, no me importa si usted ha estado aquí desde siempre. Pareciera que el hecho de que ya esté viejo le diera privilegios, ...Y NO ES ASÍ!! Guilipollas, lo único que me puede llegar a aportar algún respeto son mis aportaciones y el soporte que pueda dar. debian/rules tio. Si cuando le tocan las narices, se pone usted como fiera, ese no es asunto de los demás. Por situaciones como esta, ya tiene usted fama de prepotente y bravucón desde hace tiempo. Pero es que de verdad no eres capaz de razonar, debatir, argumentar. Yo he dado argumentos de mucho peso. Pero de eso no quieres hablar, solo faltar al respeto. Si el señor Gustavo B le ha enviado un privado (UNA CLARA VIOLACIÓN A LAS REGLAS DE LA LISTA) por favor resuelva sus problemas EN PRIVADO y evítenos las molestias de recibir un correo POR DEMÁS INÚTIL. Eres estúpido, un principio básico de esta lista es que fluya el conocimiento libremente y a la vista de todos. Si estas en la lista escribes a la lista no lanzas un privado. Es decir, es la lista de ayuda a usuarios de Debian en castellano. Support se traduce en el lenguaje coloquial mas bien como apoyo, pero en el mundo tecnologico se suele traducir como soporte tecnico o ayuda. El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse. Mira como no te enteras de lo que es un debian user. Hay comunidad y entorno social. Según tu, no tendríamos comunidad puesto que no se podrían debatir temas que no fueran estrictamente apoyo técnico. No tienes ni puta idea de donde estas. ¿AYUDA O SOPORTE TÉCNICO le dicen algo Señor BasaBuru? Ya te he respondido mas arriba. ¿El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben tratar de evitarse, le dice algo señor BasaBuru? Pues si que no te enteras ya te lo he contestado mas arriba ¿La educación le dice algo SEÑOR BURRO? Le cito a usted: ...Y no putos flames diciendo tonterias. joder otra vez haciendo amigos. Y si putos flames.. que ha sido si no el del proftp??? ¡¡ POR FAVOR, CARAMBA SEÑOR BURRO !! Mira tio no me chilles, no sabes tampoco de netetiqueta??? ¡¡¡ EVÍTENOS EN LO SUCESIVO RECIBIR CORREOS COMO ESTE !!! Pues la verdad es que te has lucido. BasaBuru Y si no tegusta que te escriba al privado te lo mando a la lista. Te decía, que dejes de escribir al pedo y te concentres en el trabajo, que no seas insolente con quienes solo hacen preguntas, y de paso que hagas una pequeña revisión de tus mensajes a la lista para que puedas apreciar lo arrogante que podés ser a veces, ¿entendiste mamalaguasca? A veces me pregunto que pasaría si las personas que se ponen a discutir de esta manera con temas totalmente alejados a Debian estuvieran en persona cara a cara, de seguro que serían tan amables como muchos de lista. -- Luis Vega M. - Cel: 79541330 Linux Registered User #356394 - counter.li.org Blog: http://fodsite.wordpress.com fodsite AT gmail DOT com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
libreria ncurses
he logrado instalar las librerias para asterisk pero con esta ( ncurses ) no he podido . Pude instalar ncurses-dev, no se si es la misma? sale el mensaje Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package. El paquete esta perdido, obsoleto o esta disponible en otra fuente. Gracias por cualquier informacion Jose _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009cat=sports
puede ser de su interes
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Re: librerias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 20/07/2009 3:04, Maximiliano Marin Bustos escribió: Jose: Hotmail no funciona en firefox en linux Pero SÍ funciona correctamente bajo POP/SMTP. Lo que mucha gente no se da cuenta. Perdona por la parrafada. - -- Slds. de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBSmPtD4FZAuZYtJmMAQq5vhAAiJW/N7Nf0vQrtIJ154Yh8UeOYBPP0tCK C2UZfcDk4etxFgX+9ebSb76duAijmkLdHGlDFvKhETEZZYfbixryWQxzCmg4sQGc nLXsDh/Xrl2n0noO0oJqlVieXAf9jtsRUyJZzbBarz8ZPQIFESvino4kV0fFOHtq HliUmk1mb17Uq+12jnXCmOG9b30Wp9rNrMN5RfdifZrk9JWh4rSffNLyslv92xTl 9duRUFDVCo7hhRLnDZRDVYymOdAcLlJLoP0xreoH9LebMjmcnIB/ba8CbY8dDLGh dCuNmplsvf/p9Z6yKvs4aXXqOe0+NhFF6pZBNMCJc5nY6H1w+VqdcDWRKqFmSH81 MjFZ1UBubNdyCtoMQn12vDpCkR2Wf+e3yAcjAnLyW6XynU+F4wthLo6KpJufCuYV EoC6xZHG29ylX+4Wb1tkdIf3pOfNpVVtArMXk9Lw4HqJ7U22oBSX5TSqPY0W6c1m zZ69wmQqWlTsCXMXY/plfoQj9cXi6vyS8B+URB/MECDcDQ6jGIAkQsi3d90Rj0Q6 xAUJ2pk3K+pC/gEwYLpJjUcU4GZDUXoQAvaprqAc/ZWEhOgZqtxRf5Aa2DA2e4Zs MORFV11pLkT0QIQ7zTGJ2ybFvtL+Nv0bO3T/cu0K89GJLASqkVpSkfDS9S1Ub/NA 7xtKXFzNUlU= =xbQQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: libreria ncurses
2009/7/19 JOSE BARBOSA joma_b...@hotmail.com: he logrado instalar las librerias para asterisk pero con esta ( ncurses ) no he podido . Pude instalar ncurses-dev, no se si es la misma? sale el mensaje Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package. El paquete esta perdido, obsoleto o esta disponible en otra fuente. Gracias por cualquier informacion Jose Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. Estimado: libncurses5-dev -- Atte, Maximiliano Marin http://blog.maximilianomarin.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: danjad este hilo porfa Re: [OT] Re: proftpd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 20/07/2009 3:33, Gustavo B escribió: Definitivamente, está lleno de imbeciles en todas partes XD *PLONK*. Otro super-mega-maleducado que hay en la lista. - -- Slds. de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBSmPts4FZAuZYtJmMAQqmCA//QhRVbQwSjUZGyOlj+FxnJb1VlZg320Kc JrgA8BEoiFt0+fP2BAePMEc7ny2cZXJovV1zPCQmc57XsbA77efzLTRm2rPKsIXj whCFqNW2BfsBc/LV+1Cfe6eyjrGF/oIQZR+PGSz8MrmtHjbUCRX4SKxtouxoM2a5 p02O/r8BbfcsBBB7CjO0n2b8wRVzTKIEFMlAp3TpqS3Sclnqp8HcHTIGnmD+VWiP KfpQlqi31QGeZbJQQod6n23vvCfHJPFxL0s59rzMFGuVudHrIlm+OsiCZfKWhOnA ITqTrcvP2FInfbqpbCc44PFBJ49KQMSxxXc7SvOyzhNtq5Dq/phgd6S7JrQtA3vt 2fmT55VEnCHqe6kOF1C+g3PWbnWy6q/URMNuQCq/r1xhyUJK8HbOahpKxgQbD3eD pKpmgyyH71CC7YFirNSZB5VlNmgNIjHPBiMUb0oYMHp9VDE3yXbmcBwtvnJ/RmpV iyDWyfyC0mo92FvoHwSuJjQSxhgkIo9hvg+ygkweWnUbesLxCREXdvVvlJirN2KI j22rLy6y3Eayd8xYrakMcPYCty6vi0RZyxIJS6iCiReirnqAbeWGMLJKCLF7RpJG mp1HMkEE/hH4N+s/EBm565RFbSBmnBl6gqrocgUYZxq9/Fmsu6qteSabuXyy7TeM lexdyi0kx54= =j3zW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: cambiar resolucion debian lenny (SOLUCIONADO)
El 19 de julio de 2009 18:15, Ing. Herwin Huillcen hhuill...@gmail.comescribió: El día 18/07/09, Marc budalok...@gmail.com escribió: En/na Ing. Herwin Huillcen ha escrit: Sres debianitas tengo el problema que tengo una resolucion de 1280x800, pero deseo bajarla a 800x600, tengo debian lenny, favor de ayudarme envio mi xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout latam EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse EndSection Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Configured Monitor EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor EndSection gracias de antemano Si usas kde yo ejecutaría krandrtray (creo que del paquete kcontrol ) y ahí podrás elegir fácilmente entre los modos que tienes disponibles. Parece que en gnome hay un paquete equivalente: gnome-randr-applet pero no lo he probado nunca. Si lo que te apetece es toquetear el xorg.conf, yo modificaría la sección Screen y la dejaría así: Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor SubSection Display Modes 800x600 EndSubSection EndSection Paz y Amor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Estimado Manuel, mi chip es una ATI Radeon X1200. Estimado Marc, hice lo que me dijiste y nada, aun sigue con la resolucion de 1280x800, todos los comandos me dan solo esa unica opcion de resolucion, la quiero bajar a 800x600 pues tengo que proyectar en un cañon multimedia que solo acepta esa resolucion. espero que me puedan ayudar -- - Herwin Alayn Huillcen Baca. Ingº de Sistemas y Telecomunicaciones Registro Colegio de Ingenieros del Peru: 66986 Tte Comunicaciones Ejercito Peruano Numero Administrativo: 122408500 Pues lo que hice fue instalar los drivers correctos de la tarjeta ati radeon x1200, y ella trae una aplicacion para cambiar la resolucion a la que uno desee. gracias y saludos -- - Herwin Alayn Huillcen Baca. Ingº de Sistemas y Telecomunicaciones Registro Colegio de Ingenieros del Peru: 66986 Tte Comunicaciones Ejercito Peruano Numero Administrativo: 122408500
Re: libreria ncurses
El dom, 19-07-2009 a las 21:30 -0500, JOSE BARBOSA escribió: he logrado instalar las librerias para asterisk pero con esta ( ncurses ) no he podido . Pude instalar ncurses-dev, no se si es la misma? sale el mensaje Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package. El paquete esta perdido, obsoleto o esta disponible en otra fuente. Gracias por cualquier informacion Jose Instala el metapaquete libncurses-dev -- Saludos, Mauricio J. Adonis C. Usuario Linux # 482032 Usuario Ubuntu # 25554 Ubuntu Code of Conduct - 1.0.1 signatario (FD9329AC66C0907805831BF8E8D0B29A3AE3D244) signature.asc Description: Esto es una parte de mensaje firmado digitalmente
SV: lvm
vad som händer något i stil med att mount failed tror den inte hittar initrd lägger boot på /dev/hda annars hittas bara windows men en sak ja inte begriper om man installerar utan lvm så väljs grub som bootloader om man väljer lvm så väljs lilo -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Anders Jackson [mailto:anders.jack...@gmail.com] Skickat: den 19 juli 2009 02:26 Till: mattias Kopia: debian-user-swedish@lists.debian.org Ämne: Re: lvm Den 19 juli 2009 02.03 skrev mattias m...@mjw.se: försök aldrig lägga in debian på en lvm det går inte å boota Vad är det som inte fungerar? Jag installerar aldrig utan LVM längre. Men /boot lägger jag normalt på en liten egen partition med ext3-filsystem.
qemu
synd man inte kan boota en qemu via lvm
Re: [OT] Instalar Driver Ati
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 18-07-2009 17:40, Ricardo Esdra wrote: Boa a tarde a todos, estou tentando instalar o driver da ati aqui, estou instalando pelo module-assistant m-a a-i fglrx, já estou com sources, build-essential, ele executa a instalação normal mas ao tentar carregar o modulo fglrx ele dá erro FATAL: Module fglrx not found ai não consegui carregar o 3D de minha placa, que é um HD3200 on-board que vem na placa M3A78-EM, já tentei usar o driver do site da ati também não está dando certo, o estranho é que no dia em que eu instalei o sistema eu consegui carregar, o 3D, mas embora ficou instável, monitor piscava direto, como quando toca um celular ao lado dele, o estranho é que depois que eu dei safe-upgrade que ele baixou kernel, e outras coisas que não me lembro agora eu reiniciou e não funcionou mais o driver fglrx. Se foi depois de mudar o kernel você precisa regerar os drivers para a nova versão do kernel. Até onde eu sei a dupla abaixo seria o bastante pra ter o módulo funcional: # m-a prepare # m-a a-i fglrx Em geral, isso gera um deb pra versão do kernel que você usa, uma vez que o deb esteja instalado você tem o módulo e daí basta configurar o X.org. Quais pacotes fglrx estão instalados? Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpjKSEACgkQCjAO0JDlykZfpQCfXh6DJcFxAIL5p5iWi3Ipi7RP ZIQAoMjyR97U6VAWcFOCr8tCUKCLPTLA =omUz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Instalar Driver Ati
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) escreveu: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 18-07-2009 17:40, Ricardo Esdra wrote: Boa a tarde a todos, estou tentando instalar o driver da ati aqui, estou instalando pelo module-assistant m-a a-i fglrx, já estou com sources, build-essential, ele executa a instalação normal mas ao tentar carregar o modulo fglrx ele dá erro FATAL: Module fglrx not found ai não consegui carregar o 3D de minha placa, que é um HD3200 on-board que vem na placa M3A78-EM, já tentei usar o driver do site da ati também não está dando certo, o estranho é que no dia em que eu instalei o sistema eu consegui carregar, o 3D, mas embora ficou instável, monitor piscava direto, como quando toca um celular ao lado dele, o estranho é que depois que eu dei safe-upgrade que ele baixou kernel, e outras coisas que não me lembro agora eu reiniciou e não funcionou mais o driver fglrx. Se foi depois de mudar o kernel você precisa regerar os drivers para a nova versão do kernel. Até onde eu sei a dupla abaixo seria o bastante pra ter o módulo funcional: # m-a prepare # m-a a-i fglrx Em geral, isso gera um deb pra versão do kernel que você usa, uma vez que o deb esteja instalado você tem o módulo e daí basta configurar o X.org. Quais pacotes fglrx estão instalados? Abraço, Felipe, eu removi todos os pacotes e reinstalei ele pelo driver manual que peguei no site, o que eu tinha feito logo quando instalei o debian e deu certo, antes o monitor ficava dando um interferência na tela uns riscos tremidos tipo quando toca um celular próximo dele só com o driver fglrx com radeon não, que também foi resolvido após atualização da bios para a mais recente , agora o módulo fglrx está carregado estou com o 3D ativo mas com desempenho muito baixo, já estou vendo no goolge, VOL, orkut e nada até agora, o meu glxgears 700 - 740 FPS fgl_glxgears 180 - 240 FPS testei um benchmark aqui Lightsmark2008.2.0 que me deu um resultado ainda mais deprimiente média 12 FPS. O módulo dri tenho que carregar ele também? pois já tentei e não consegui, pois acho que pode estar faltando alguma coisa, pois que li esta chip on-board tem um bom desempenho mesmo sendo on-board. -- ## # Ricardo Esdra # ## # linux user n° 446011 # ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Duvidas no sensors
Boa tarde a todos, tenho aqui uma fonte Corsair VX 450 W, qu e vinha usando com minha antiga máquina, que tinha uma placa A7V8X-X, que tive que fazer alguns ajustes no arquivo de configuração pois os valores não eram corretos, agora estou com uma placa M3A78-EM, e estou tendo novamente diferenças entre a temperatura da bios e do sistema, alguém sabe se tenho que alterar algo no arquivo de configuração para está placa também? segue resultado do sensors rica...@woofer:~$ sensors k8temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter Core0 Temp: +13.0°C Core0 Temp: +15.0°C Core1 Temp: +9.0°C Core1 Temp: +14.0°C it8712-isa-0290 Adapter: ISA adapter VCore 1: +1.28 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.02 V) VCore 2: +3.06 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.08 V) +3.3V: +3.25 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.08 V) +5V: +6.85 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +6.85 V) ALARM +12V: +12.74 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +16.32 V) -12V: -15.58 V (min = -27.36 V, max = +3.93 V) -5V: +4.03 V (min = +1.81 V, max = +4.03 V) ALARM Stdby: +6.85 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +6.83 V) ALARM VBat:+3.28 V fan1: 42187 RPM (min =0 RPM, div = 2) fan2: 0 RPM (min = 2824 RPM, div = 2) ALARM fan3: 0 RPM (min = 5314 RPM, div = 2) ALARM M/B Temp:+36.0°C (low = -1.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = transistor CPU Temp:+35.0°C (low = -1.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = transistor Temp3: +128.0°C (low = -1.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = disabled cpu0_vid: +1.550 V as voltagens de 5 e 12 e velocidade do fan1 estão bem alteradas no sistema, e na bios esta dentro da margem valores bem próximas do que eu tinha com a antiga máquina minha. desde já agradeço. -- ## # Ricardo Esdra # ## # linux user n° 446011 # ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Instalar Driver Ati
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 19-07-2009 16:28, Ricardo Esdra wrote: [...] Felipe, eu removi todos os pacotes e reinstalei ele pelo driver manual que peguei no site, o que eu tinha feito logo quando instalei o debian e deu certo, antes o monitor ficava dando um interferência na tela uns riscos tremidos tipo quando toca um celular próximo dele só com o driver fglrx com radeon não, que também foi resolvido após atualização da bios para a mais recente , agora o módulo fglrx está carregado estou com o 3D ativo mas com desempenho muito baixo, já estou vendo no goolge, VOL, orkut e nada até agora, o meu glxgears 700 - 740 FPS fgl_glxgears 180 - 240 FPS testei um benchmark aqui Lightsmark2008.2.0 que me deu um resultado ainda mais deprimiente média 12 FPS. Você não vai gostar da resposta mas, bem vindo ao mundo dos drivers proprietários de placa de vídeo. Eu não tenho uma placa parecida com a sua é há tempos deixei de usar o fglrx porque ele não se comportava como eu queria com dois monitores (sem falar que não tinha xrandr). Uma outra ideia é verificar o radeonhd, talvez funcione. O módulo dri tenho que carregar ele também? pois já tentei e não consegui, pois acho que pode estar faltando alguma coisa, pois que li esta chip on-board tem um bom desempenho mesmo sendo on-board. O que posso dizer é: boa sorte. :-) Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpjRm0ACgkQCjAO0JDlykZxuACgsQTmAU288fga2hWUR2oQvf+C nEMAn0a18clYUyHjGFEqweWq3Ur/iaam =cbKQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Off-topic] Fitas DAT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [ top-posts matam gatinhos, não faça top-posts ] On 17-07-2009 16:09, hamacker wrote: 2009/7/17 Edson Marquezani Filho edsonmarquez...@gmail.com: Estou me informando a respeito de unidades de fita DAT, mas não estou encontrando muita informação sobre a tecnologia em si, e gostaria de pedir a ajuda de quem conhece. Fitas DAT já são consideradas obsoletas. Embora você ainda possa encontrar DDS4 (40/80 GB), em geral não se encontra mais servidores vindo com esses hardwares, você deveria procurar por opções como DLT e AIT. Vi que as fitas têm capacidade normal e compactada, sendo que a capacidade compactada corresponde ao dobro da normal. Na teoria. :) Mas, como funciona essa compactação? Via hardware. Ele é capaz de compactar o que está gravando, o que torna a escrita mais lenta mas garante que mais poderá ser escrito na fita, isso não quer dizer obrigatoriamente o dobro, a média costuma ser 1.5 de taxa de compressão pra dados de um servidor de arquivos (planilhas eletrônicas, imagens, documentos). É feita de maneira transparente pela unidade ou seu driver, de modo que a leitura e escrita são feitas da mesma maneira quando sem compactação? Há impacto na velocidade de I/O? DAT/DDS é um padrão, então todo leitor/gravador DAT é capaz de lidar com isso, em geral eles são bastante compatíveis, mas sempre há exceções. E sim, há impacto no I/O, tradicionalmente a compactação fica ligada, e hoje em dia, por conta da massa de dados que é encontrada, as pessoas tendem a procurar melhores soluções como DLT, AIT e storages. Como se faz quando for necessário usar mais de uma mídia numa operação de backup? A unidade ejeta a fita e o processo espera pela seguinte? Isso é possível, ou então você precisará de um magazine, ou seja, uma unidade que suporte múltiplas fitas e faça a troca de forma automática, mas se você tem mais do que 40GB de dados pra fazer backup, nem pense em DAT, vá direto para novas gerações de fita. Como o conteúdo do backup seria recuperado quando está divido entre mais uma mídia? (Por exemplo, posso dar um tar -t ou -x direto em uma segunda fita?) O tar veio de tape archive, ele nasceu pra mexer com fitas. :-) Assim como você faz múltiplos arquivos tar, pode ter múltiplas fitas, e o funcionamento é o mesmo, até onde eu sei, você começa no primeiro arquivo e vai para os próximos, por conta dos índices e cadeias de dados, mas eu nunca lidei com múltiplas fitas/arquivos por não gostar da abordagem, talvez isso tenha mudado. Veja artigos sobre isso: http://paulbradley.tv/44/ http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/tar/tar_133.html Se puderem ajudar, agradeço. Pessoalmente, eu abandonei as unidades DAT para usar discos rigidos em cases USB. O que dependendo do volume de dados também não resolve, o próprio barramento USB pode ser questionável, e a mídia é muito mais sensível para manuseio. O problema com essa tecnologia é que seu mecanismo é mecanico, e depois de algum tempo se for necessario ser reparada por qualquer motivo, o alinhamento posterior poderá diferenciar-se do anterior fazendo com que tapes antigos possam ter problemas. Trabalhei com fitas que chegaram há 8 anos de idade, funcionais e sem maiores problemas, de uma forma ou de outra, você tem que atualizar a infraestrutura de backup, incluindo as mídias antigas e os dados que valem a pena. Fora que as restaurações são bem mais demoradas e cada programa de backup lida com os tapes de um jeito, as vezes uma versão nova de um software não restaura tapes gravados com a versão antiga, o que é bastante constrangedor, isso aconteceu comigo usando o software da IOMEGA. Software proprietário? Sim, versões de software proprietário podem ser problemáticas, a abordagem com soluções com tar pode ser mais manual mas pode garantir maior tempo de vida para a solução, de qualquer forma, isso não tem relação com a tecnologia de hardware usada, mas com a solução de software empregada. Além disso, há o fator de depreciação tecnologica, temos tapes aqui de 98/99/00/01 que simplesmente não podem ser mais lidos porque a tecnologia da época não existe mais (DDS1,DDS2,DDS..). Hmmm... nossas unidades DDS4 liam DDS1 sem problemas. A tecnologia já é ultrapassada, mas é claro que existem evoluçoes como as DLT que não sofrem desse problema, mas aí voce conta o custo/beneficio de cada tipo, mas as DAT convencionais eu desencorajaria. DLT também sofrerá depreciação tecnológica. Há quem diga que AITs são melhores, embora bem mais caras. O funcionamento das DATs é leitura/gravacao sequencial, se um tape acabar o software exigirá que insira outra, todos os softwares de backup fazem isso, incluindo o tar. Não por padrão, o tar falhará sem aviso e com uma mensagem de erro que costumava ser bem estranha. A compressão por
Re: Duvida Broffice para 64 bits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15-07-2009 20:02, Ricardo Esdra wrote: [...] o problema do aptitude install brof.. é a minha internet, conexão de 250 kb, por isso quero baixar aqui na empresa e levar num pen drive para casa e instalar. mas eu baixei a versão 3.0.1 que tem versão para 64 bits. Você pode baixar os pacotes e levar do mesmo jeito. :) Seja via /var/cache/apt/archives ou algo como APTOnCD. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpjTgYACgkQCjAO0JDlykadbQCgkfz3TPlN5E1sZkJ2lGCcy5ZV rhAAoNb1lMCtg5ff8rFrW01RNopFupjm =Yp5H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Internet não liga na partida da máquin a
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17-07-2009 12:59, Sávio M. Ramos wrote: Em Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:04:46 -0300 Allison Vollmann allisonv...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules Remova a interface anterior e coloque a atual com o NAME=eth0 para identificá-la como a interface primário, justamente por causa disso não está iniciando no boot, provavelmente ele identificou a interface como eth1 por exemplo, e essa não está configurada em /etc/network/interface. Eu troquei de diretório o arquivo acima e durante a partida foi criado um novo com o parâmetro eth2. Troquei para eth0 e tudo funcionou. Mas... Por que foi criado um arquivo novo com eth2 e não eth0? Só tenho uma placa de rede... Pra criar persistência das placas de rede. O udev não sabe porque você mudou a placa de rede, então ele tenta mapear nomes de placas por endereço MAC, um novo endereço, um novo nome, se a antiga placa aparecer, você pode querer que ela fique com a mesma configuração anterior. :) Isso evita que as pessoas que tem várias placas de rede tenham a ordem das placas mudadas a cada vez que a máquina é reiniciada. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpjWCsACgkQCjAO0JDlykaUbwCgz5h+IiTU813BBoBFBBWXsAsg Y1cAn0HYT6V8xPH3yFQmcphASCYjgqGu =xHG3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
LVM. Disco inteiro ou em uma partição?
Salve, Como é preferível criar um PV para o LVM? Usando o disco inteiro, sem particionar: # pvcreate /dev/sdb Criando uma partição primária e usá-la: # parted mkpart primary # pvcreate /dev/sdb1 Criando uma partição extendida e usá-la: # parted mkpart extended # parted mkpart logical ext2 # pvcreate /dev/sdb5 Há alguma diferença de performance ou segurança entre estas opções, ou tanto faz usar qualquer um dos três métodos? -- Welington Rodrigues Braga -- Web: http://www.welrbraga.eti.br MSN: welrbraga[*]msn·com Gtalk: welrbraga[*]gmail·com Yahoo / Skype: welrbraga PGP Key: 0x6C7654EB Linux User #253605 Em tudo somos atribulados, porém não angustiados; perplexos, porém não desanimados; perseguidos, porém não desamparados; abatidos, porém não destruídos; - 2Co 4:8,9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: LVM. Disco inteiro ou em uma partição?
O Grub não consegue ler partições LVM, portanto, o /boot deve estar fora da LVM. Eu costumo criar duas partições primárias, uma para o /boot e uma para o LVM, quando é um computador que só terá Linux. Para dual boot, costumo deixar o /boot e o LVM em uma mesma partição extendida, para evitar atingir o limite das 4 primárias. -- Alexandre Martani - amartani em gmail com Sent from Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil 2009/7/19 Welington R. Braga welrbr...@gmail.com: Salve, Como é preferível criar um PV para o LVM? Usando o disco inteiro, sem particionar: # pvcreate /dev/sdb Criando uma partição primária e usá-la: # parted mkpart primary # pvcreate /dev/sdb1 Criando uma partição extendida e usá-la: # parted mkpart extended # parted mkpart logical ext2 # pvcreate /dev/sdb5 Há alguma diferença de performance ou segurança entre estas opções, ou tanto faz usar qualquer um dos três métodos? -- Welington Rodrigues Braga -- Web: http://www.welrbraga.eti.br MSN: welrbraga[*]msn·com Gtalk: welrbraga[*]gmail·com Yahoo / Skype: welrbraga PGP Key: 0x6C7654EB Linux User #253605 Em tudo somos atribulados, porém não angustiados; perplexos, porém não desanimados; perseguidos, porém não desamparados; abatidos, porém não destruídos; - 2Co 4:8,9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Off-topic] Fitas DAT
É, tô vendo que fitas DAT realmente não são muito aconselháveis, né? Estou pensando agora em outro conceito. Mais especificamente, em replicar os dados em outro servidor separado fisicamente. Não dá a mobilidade de uma mídia removível, mas já oferece uma segurança razoável. É claro que essas decisões sempre envolvem muitos fatores, em especial a questão financeira e as necessidades de cada ambiente. Não existe fórmula pronta, nem solução perfeita, eu sei. De qualquer maneira, agradeço muito a ajuda. As dúvidas que eu tinha sobre as fitas já foram esclarecidas. =) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Off-topic] Fitas DAT
Já utilizei fitas DAT (4GB) e DLT, particularmente as DATs já me salvaram quando a empresa foi assaltada e levaram TODAS as máquinas, incluindo a máquina que ficava o leitor de DAT responsável pelo backup que por um acaso era também a minha máquina de uso geral na empresa, naquela situação precisamos adquirir (totalmente de emergência, procurando desesperados na Rua Santa Ifigênia em São Paulo) uma outra unidade DAT, achamos uma usada que não me lembro a marca mas era beem mais lenta que a SONY que tinhamos, fiz um untar das fitas (para ter uma idéia o leitor Sony descompactava a fita toda em 40 min, este leitor levou mais de 4 horas...) mas no final conseguimos todos os dados críticos de volta, logo em seguida passamos a utilizar um leitor DLT da Tandberg com fitas de 40GB mas este nunca passou por situação crítica como a que passamos antes, o máximo que ocorreu foi uma ou outra pessoa da empresa perder algum arquivo de trabalho, bastava realizar o untar daquele arquivo na fita de 2 dias antes e pronto. Resta dizer que para os tipos de dados que armazenavamos (basicamente de tudo, desde base de dados do Oracle até textos do Word) a compactação para 80GB que ele dizia fazer não fazia diferença nenhuma. O software para isso basicamente era uma máquina com Debian Woody (faz tempo isso) e o tar em alguns scripts de backup que eu mesmo fiz. Boa sorte Sucesso a todos Flávio Alberto Lopes Soares Edson Marquezani Filho wrote: É, tô vendo que fitas DAT realmente não são muito aconselháveis, né? Estou pensando agora em outro conceito. Mais especificamente, em replicar os dados em outro servidor separado fisicamente. Não dá a mobilidade de uma mídia removível, mas já oferece uma segurança razoável. É claro que essas decisões sempre envolvem muitos fatores, em especial a questão financeira e as necessidades de cada ambiente. Não existe fórmula pronta, nem solução perfeita, eu sei. De qualquer maneira, agradeço muito a ajuda. As dúvidas que eu tinha sobre as fitas já foram esclarecidas. =) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RES: Sarg não funciona mais
Ol, Desculpe cometi um erro de digitao. O lugar certo : cron.daily cron.weekly cron.monthly A instalao padro j coloca o script nestes diretrios. Faa um backup de suas configuraes do sarg e reinsta-le assim: apt-get --purge remove sarg depois apt-get install sarg Obrigado -- Alexandre Pereira Bhler Linux User: 397.546 Simo Bhler Ltda (Infobrindes) Instalao, manuteno e venda de servidores GNU/Linux. http://www.simaoebuhler.com.br alexan...@simaoebuhler.com.br Telefones: (41) 3538-5428 Infobrindes (Simo Bhler Ltda) Brindes e material promocional. http://www.infobrindes.com.br alexan...@infobrindes.com.br Telefones: (41) 3532-5428 Colunista: www.delphisophp.com Owner: http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/freepascal/ Liberdade essencial. Use GNU/Linux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Off-topic] Fitas DAT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 19-07-2009 21:48, Edson Marquezani Filho wrote: É, tô vendo que fitas DAT realmente não são muito aconselháveis, né? Estou pensando agora em outro conceito. Mais especificamente, em replicar os dados em outro servidor separado fisicamente. Não dá a mobilidade de uma mídia removível, mas já oferece uma segurança razoável. [...] Segurança é um processo, não um produto. Estratégias de backup decentes incluem o processo de externar os dados, que pode ser a passagem dos mesmos para mídias como CDs, DVDs e fitas ou ainda a cópia em sites remotos. Se seu centro de dados sofrer um desastre/catástrofe (incêndio, inundação, roubo) os dois servidores dançam e o seu backup também, então a separação física também é relativa, estar do outro lado da sala pode não ser suficiente. :-) Ainda entram na conta de custo vs. benefício itens como tempo de retorno do backup e, por exemplo, o grau de confiança do site remoto. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpjtMoACgkQCjAO0JDlykZZagCgu/lMQjh2FSMuhwzH37B3Eyrp tKsAnA7bkpr+4GJsw2f23fD0RTYcEJSn =j+lK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Linux nao e software Livre (Sera que e OT?).
Em materia publicada na revista Linux Magazine, o autor do artigo Alexandre Oliva, discorre sobre o que vem ocorrendo entre distribuicoes Linux e fabricantes de hardware. A materia pode ser lida na íntegra em http://www.linuxmagazine.com.br/images/uploads/pdf_aberto/LM_54_62_64_03_anali_fratura.pdf. O artigo nos leva a procurar por distribuicoes que continuam Livres, e podem ser encontradas em http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html, onde veremos que grandes distribuicoes como Debian e Fedora nao constam da lista. Leiam quem se interessar e tirem sua proprias conclusoes. God bless us. Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com
digitar em japonês
Gente, Estou conseguindo digitar caracteres japoneses do katakana. Adicionei ao painel do gnome o 'indicador do teclado', fui em 'preferências do teclado', aba 'disposições', botão 'adicionar', aba 'por país', país: japão, me deu 4 variantes. apenas uma é de caracteres japoneses. a 'Japan kana'. Mas o problema é que com este layout, só consigo digitar katakana. Não estou conseguindo digitar hiragana. tentei combinações com shift, ctrl, alt e altGr e nada. Alguém sabe como faço para digitar hiragana? Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
On 2009-07-18 19:52 (-0600), l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Huh. Well, I don't know a news server I could use. I googled for some a while ago and was surprised that they now want you to pay for using them. Anyway, I wanted to see how useful it is as a MUA. Gnus is very good with news and mail, in my opinion. If you only need it for reading maildir folders, then I'd use these settings: (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil )) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnmaildir (directory ~/mAiltesting/Mail/Maildir/ You can put them in your ~/.gnus.el file. When you are in Gnus's *Group* buffer press F to find new groups. It should find your maildirs. Do I need to know some keystrokes to switch to the mail or something? Or somehow import mail into/as newsgroups? In Gnus mail is also like news. They use the same interface and mostly the same terminology. Some things can be confusing first but it's really powerful to use the same interface for both. Why would I need primary and secondary select methods (Whatever select methods are ...)? Select methods basically mean different ways of getting news/mail. I suggest configuring gnus-select-method to '(nnnil ), i.e. nothing, because if you, at some point, add different select methods it's much clearer if there are no two different classes of select methods. Put all methods to gnus-secondary-select-methods. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo
ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Just got an ASRock A780GXE/128M, and it seems to have difficulty seeing more than 4 devices. (I've got 4 SATA HDDs, a SATA DVD-RW and a PATA HDD.) Here are my needs: - AM2 socket - ATX form factor, - 6 (or even 8) SATA sockets, - 4 DIMM slots. On-board 1394 would be useful. The A780GXE has all those features, but apparently doesn't implement them well. Just in order to get it to boot from CD-ROM (I'm now running from an Ubuntu 9.04 Live CD), I had to disconnect the lone PATA drive. I'd break down and get an AM2+ CPU if the mobo were *great* and didn't support AM2. Also, I'm running Sid with 2.6.30, so modern doesn't scare me. Thanks I have had the best luck with ASUS and MSI MBs. My advice is, if you are forced into getting not just a new board, but a new CPU as well, for a desktop machine, then you would be better off with rethinking the brand loyalty. Right now, much as I hate to admit it, Intel X58/Core i7 is the way to go. The Core i7 920 is a very good good price v. performance choice, and it overclocks very well. I like the ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, a Core i7 board I have successfully installed 5 times, so far. Debian runs fine, with a recent enough kernel. The down side is, the memory is DDR3, so you can't reuse the old sticks. But, you can put in six of them! Garden-variety sticks from OCZ or somewhere will take it to 12GB, or you can pay a premium, go with 4 Gig sticks, and have 24GB. (If you like to overclock, though, stick with three memory sticks. Yes, three, not two or four. The LGA 1366 processors---i.e., Core i7s---are triple-channel, they have an onboard memory controller that supports three memory channels. Anyway, higher clocks on all-slots-filled configurations are not supported.) I have installed one GigaByte X58/i7 board, the EX58-UD5, and I dislike it. Not recommended. Core i7 boards are somewhat pricy, though. The new P55 chipset is cheaper, and it supports the new Lynnfield CPU, that is, the core i5 chips. i5 just has double-channel support, so less costly to get started. But I have no experience with them. The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current overall winner. MArk Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Soren Orelsoren.o...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D On some of your vmlinux lines in your menu.lst you have the word single. That boots you into single-user mode, that you exit from by hitting Ctrl-D. Remove just the word single and you should be good to go. Don Quixote -- Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com http://www.dulcineatech.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Reliable remote logging with rsyslog on lenny
I'm trying to set up a couple of boxes that both run lenny (stable) for remote logging. I have installed rsyslog on both boxes. One is to be the log server, the other I want to log remotely to the log server. According to the package description of rsyslog, it does reliable syslog over TCP. According to the rsyslog homepage, this reliable logging is RELP and can be enabled on the server like this: $ModLoad imrelp $InputRELPServerRun 2514 and on the client like this: *.* :omrelp:192.168.0.1:2514 (where 192.168.0.1 is the address of the log server) I cannot get this to work. From what I can tell with netstat, rsyslogd is not listening on port 2514 on the server. The package also looks like it does not contain the modules imrelp and omrelp - but I'm not sure about this. There aren't any .so files for them in the module directory, but they may be built in instead. How do I enable the reliable logging feature of rsyslog? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Extract attachments from message/partial emails
Anyone knows of a program, preferably command line, that can extract attachments from a mailbox file full of message/partial emails ? Thanks in advance. -- André Majorel http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/ Use reportbug and get spammed ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo
On 2009-07-19 02:51, Mark Allums wrote: ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Just got an ASRock A780GXE/128M, and it seems to have difficulty seeing more than 4 devices. (I've got 4 SATA HDDs, a SATA DVD-RW and a PATA HDD.) Here are my needs: - AM2 socket - ATX form factor, - 6 (or even 8) SATA sockets, - 4 DIMM slots. On-board 1394 would be useful. The A780GXE has all those features, but apparently doesn't implement them well. Just in order to get it to boot from CD-ROM (I'm now running from an Ubuntu 9.04 Live CD), I had to disconnect the lone PATA drive. I'd break down and get an AM2+ CPU if the mobo were *great* and didn't support AM2. Also, I'm running Sid with 2.6.30, so modern doesn't scare me. Thanks I have had the best luck with ASUS and MSI MBs. My advice is, if you are forced into getting not just a new board, but a new CPU as well, for a desktop machine, then you would be better off with rethinking the brand loyalty. Right now, much as I hate to admit it, Intel X58/Core i7 is the way to go. The Core i7 920 is a very good good price v. performance choice, and it overclocks very well. I like the ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, a Core i7 board I have successfully installed 5 times, so far. Debian runs fine, with a recent enough kernel. The down side is, the memory is DDR3, so you can't reuse the old sticks. But, you can put in six of them! Garden-variety sticks from OCZ or somewhere will take it to 12GB, or you can pay a premium, go with 4 Gig sticks, and have 24GB. That's impressive and a half... (If you like to overclock, though, stick with three memory sticks. Yes, three, not two or four. The LGA 1366 processors---i.e., Core i7s---are triple-channel, they have an onboard memory controller that supports three memory channels. Anyway, higher clocks on all-slots-filled configurations are not supported.) I have installed one GigaByte X58/i7 board, the EX58-UD5, and I dislike it. Not recommended. Core i7 boards are somewhat pricy, though. The new P55 chipset is cheaper, and it supports the new Lynnfield CPU, that is, the core i5 chips. i5 just has double-channel support, so less costly to get started. But I have no experience with them. The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current overall winner. I looked into Intel, but I'm trying to reuse the CPU and RAM. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo
On 2009-07-18 21:50, Wayne Topa wrote: lee wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:41:03AM -0400, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I recently had to replace a MD and ended up with a Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P. It meets or exceeds your specs and was not as expensive as I had expected (newegg) [snip] 8 x SATA 3GB connectors [snip] Working like a champ here. Thanks. I'll look into it. Whatever you do, stay and run away from Gigabyte. They make the crappiest boards I've seen (two out of three over the years totally broken, the third one is defective and troublesome), their support sucks, and they have a huge, massive, unbelievable bug in the BIOS that will eventually overwrite data on arbitrary disks. I made the mistake to buy a Gigabyte though I knew better, but it was cheaper ... I have the buggy BIOS (they are using the same in a lot of their boards), the BIOS has definitely overwritten data on one of my disks and is unable to recognize two my SATA disks when AHCI is enabled. I'm extremely pissed with them and if I had money to spare, I'd have replaced the board with an MSI board. Uh-oh, because before reading this, I ordered a GA-MA780G-UD3H. I've seen and had a number of MSI boards and never had any problems with them. I'll never buy Gigabyte again. Not according to Toms Hardware page. He rated them a best buy when I check the net for review of that board. YMMV but this board has been running for 3 months without a hitch. We'll see -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file
I have a mp3 file When I play it, the sound volume is too low even if I set highest volume in sound mixer Is there any utility that change mp3 file? I use sarge and etch Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file
Long Wind: I have a mp3 file When I play it, the sound volume is too low even if I set highest volume in sound mixer Is there any utility that change mp3 file? mp3gain can be used to make several files have the same peak volume. J. -- Fashion is more important to me than war, famine, disease or art. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file
I use cooledit. But its a commercial program and probably you don't want a commercial program --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Long Wind longwind2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Long Wind longwind2...@gmail.com Subject: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 10:19 AM I have a mp3 file When I play it, the sound volume is too low even if I set highest volume in sound mixer Is there any utility that change mp3 file? I use sarge and etch Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 01:13 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Soren Orelsoren.o...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D On some of your vmlinux lines in your menu.lst you have the word single. That boots you into single-user mode, that you exit from by hitting Ctrl-D. Remove just the word single and you should be good to go. Don Quixote Lucky Don Quixote :), obviously you never have been hitten by fsck not being able to cope with a broken FS. In such a situation the machine automagically boots into single user mode. Maybe it should be made clearer that you're at your own risk when hitting C-d. I'd never do that on a production box or when the FS contains valuable data. Siggy -- Please don't cc: me when replying on the list. bsb-at-psycho-dot-informationsanarchistik-dot-de or:bsb-at-psycho-dot-i21k-dot-de signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs
It only brings up this error message on a VirtualBox machine.. :D I tried to compile the vanillia kernel on two other machines, and it worked, booted without error.. :) The VirtualBox machine was only to try, how it works, thank you! On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Siggy Brentrup deb...@psycho.i21k.dewrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 01:13 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Soren Orelsoren.o...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D On some of your vmlinux lines in your menu.lst you have the word single. That boots you into single-user mode, that you exit from by hitting Ctrl-D. Remove just the word single and you should be good to go. Don Quixote Lucky Don Quixote :), obviously you never have been hitten by fsck not being able to cope with a broken FS. In such a situation the machine automagically boots into single user mode. Maybe it should be made clearer that you're at your own risk when hitting C-d. I'd never do that on a production box or when the FS contains valuable data. Siggy -- Please don't cc: me when replying on the list. bsb-at-psycho-dot-informationsanarchistik-dot-de or:bsb-at-psycho-dot-i21k-dot-de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpi/ksACgkQ94B/SGO8KQfxfgCfY+eQXjZOb9cpLslPyUNxzzbJ vdQAn1HSWhJ7Rx5jAHlNk2IFXxJVa9Jw =Finx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: automatically reduce screen brightness with xfce when on battery
Celejar, Mon Jul 13 2009 21:04:03 GMT+0200 (CEST) : On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:06:56 +0300 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: There used to be a control in xfce4-power-manager to allow resucing screen brightness when working on battery but it has been removed in recent versions. Any other way to achieve the same goal? I don't know if this is helpful, but the package laptop-mode-tools is designed to invoke scripts upon various power events, such as a switch to and from battery, so if you can figure out some cli / script method to control the brightness, it should be simple to hook it in. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator you can try brightd: http://www.pberndt.com/Programme/Linux/brightd/index.html no deb packages available but a closed ITP (#419329). PJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs
hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5726/screenshotual.png You got that error using make-kpkg, or just as a general kernel error? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
kvm fails on debian 5.01
Setting up kvm (1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu12.3) ... * Loading kvm module kvm_amd FATAL: Error inserting kvm_amd (/lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-amd.ko): Operation not supported [fail] invoke-rc.d: initscript kvm, action start failed. My machine is AMD Athlon 64-bit but 32-bit kernel is installed. r...@hyperyoda:~# uname -a Linux hyperyoda 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux Zach -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file
I have a mp3 file When I play it, the sound volume is too low even if I set highest volume in sound mixer Is there any utility that change mp3 file? I use sarge and etch Thanks! I'm not sure about changing the actual file, but I know that if you use VLC to play mp3 files, you can boost the volume to 200%. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 01:13 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Soren Orelsoren.o...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D On some of your vmlinux lines in your menu.lst you have the word single. That boots you into single-user mode, that you exit from by hitting Ctrl-D. Remove just the word single and you should be good to go. Don Quixote Lucky Don Quixote :), obviously you never have been hitten by fsck not being able to cope with a broken FS. In such a situation the machine automagically boots into single user mode. Maybe it should be made clearer that you're at your own risk when hitting C-d. I'd never do that on a production box or when the FS contains valuable data. Siggy This is OT, but I remember my first day away at school. I bought a new EeePC months earlier, installed Debian on it, prepared my install for my CS classes...then when I got to my first class, I booted up only to have a jfs error. It took me an hour or so to figure out how to fix. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs
hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5726/screenshotual.png You got that error using make-kpkg, or just as a general kernel error? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file
Thanks to all those that reply! I install mp3gain on etch It increase sound volume though I am not fully satisfied. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:19 AM, pob...@fuzzydev.org wrote: I have a mp3 file When I play it, the sound volume is too low even if I set highest volume in sound mixer Is there any utility that change mp3 file? I use sarge and etch Thanks! I'm not sure about changing the actual file, but I know that if you use VLC to play mp3 files, you can boost the volume to 200%. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?
I have no objection to the status of hal as a required part of a standard desktop installation, but I do have a question as to how best to deal with a peculiar situation. I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside, not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable, waiting a while, and reinserting the cable? Is there a console command that I can type that avoids the extra wear on the fragile little connectors and plugs? I'm looking for something that retriggers the look-up of volume label and the creation of a mount-point in /media as was there before I started mucking about. Or is there another way to do the maintenance without umounting? (not likely, I think) -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?
Paul E Condon: I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside, not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable, The actions you listed change neither the partition layout nor filesystem UUIDs, so you should be able to just mount it again, using the same device name or UUID as before. J. -- The news at ten makes me peevish but animal hospital makes me cry. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?
On 2009-07-19_16:42:21, Jochen Schulz wrote: Paul E Condon: I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside, not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable, The actions you listed change neither the partition layout nor filesystem UUIDs, so you should be able to just mount it again, using the same device name or UUID as before. But, for hal-mounted devices, the umount also deletes the mount-point. If I manually create a mount-point, which I must do prior to attempting a manual mount, then the next time hal mounts this HD, it creates a differently named mount point. I find this to be unclean. And, also a lot of typing. And periodic housekeeping to keep /media reasonably uncluttered. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Extract attachments from message/partial emails
Andre Majorel wrote, on 2009-07-19 18:10: Anyone knows of a program, preferably command line, that can extract attachments from a mailbox file full of message/partial emails ? Thanks in advance. Have you tried munpack from package mpack ? Arthur. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?
Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de writes: Paul E Condon: I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside, not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable, The actions you listed change neither the partition layout nor filesystem UUIDs, so you should be able to just mount it again, using the same device name or UUID as before. I've faced the same problem yesterday, and I was not able to solve it. When I mount/umount manually a device, I am able to mount it again. But if I mount it in kde, and then ask to safely remove device, then the device files pointing to the partitions are no longer in /dev/; and even the device pointing to the whole disk (e.g. /dev/sdf) raises an error when I do a simple `file -s /dev/sdf`. J. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Installing nagios3 on debian4 etch
I want to install nagios3 on my debian4 etch system, but apt-get install nagios3 yields Couldn't find package nagios3. What should I add to /etc/apt/sources.list? In general, how do I find which source provides a given package, and what are good sources to add to sources.list? I'm running a system of redundant VPSs, so can't upgrade to lenny yet (not enough providers offer/support it). -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
help
hello i have sony vaio VGN-FW140E laptop and i want to install linux ,but i can't to find the drivers ,so if you can to tell me how to install and where to find drivers . thanks a lot
Re: How to get all dependent source packages
2009/7/19 Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org Hi, On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 07:46:59PM +0800, sha liu wrote: Hi everyone, What I want to do is: If I want to build a package(for example dpkg) from source, how should I recursively get all the dependent *source* packages of it? This means not only the direct dependency of the package but also the dependent of the dependent...I know apt-get build-dep will only *install* the dependent *binary* packages. Do you really mean ALL. You should start with build-essential packages if you mean to say all build-dep packages. But I do not know why you do this. You are doing cross compile. I do not see point of downloading source for all build-dep. I just to build the dpkg. So I think getting all source packages of build-dep is the first step. Then I'll build and install the build-dep and finally build dpkg. Is this the way to go? I guess this is best answered by reading CLFS itself. I am no expert. I want to do this because I need to build dpkg on a CLFS system (think it as a minimal linux system without debianization), and it's crazy to download all dependent source packages of dpkg, right? Not really if you need dpkg as you say for your system. After all you asked to have Cross-Compiled Linux From Scratch (a.k.a CLFS). Yeah, I just realize that. Thanks for your re-confirmation :-) If you are building installation image only, you may not need dpkg. Why not? I thought installation image should prepare all essential packages which definitely includes dpkg if it's a Debian image, right? Anyway, please google and ead things like: http://cross-lfs.org/view/clfs-embedded/x86/index.html Osamu -- Best, Sha Liu
Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?
On Sun,19.Jul.09, 08:11:21, Paul E Condon wrote: I have no objection to the status of hal as a required part of a standard desktop installation, but I do have a question as to how best to deal with a peculiar situation. I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside, not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable, waiting a while, and reinserting the cable? Is there a console command that I can type that avoids the extra wear on the fragile little connectors and plugs? I'm looking for something that retriggers the look-up of volume label and the creation of a mount-point in /media as was there before I started mucking about. This thread seems interesting http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/re-detectmount-usb-hard-drive-623089/ (the first hit when I googled: hal redetect devices) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: help
On Sun,19.Jul.09, 17:27:38, aleksandar angelkovski wrote: hello i have sony vaio VGN-FW140E laptop and i want to install linux ,but i can't to find the drivers ,so if you can to tell me how to install and where to find drivers . A GNU/Linux operating system has most drivers already incorporated in the Linux kernel. Try a Debian Live CD[1] to see if your hardware is recognized correctly and report back if something doesn't work. [1] http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to get all dependent source packages
Hi, On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:34:33PM +0800, sha liu wrote: 2009/7/19 Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 07:46:59PM +0800, sha liu wrote: If you are building installation image only, you may not need dpkg. Why not? I thought installation image should prepare all essential packages which definitely includes dpkg if it's a Debian image, right? I thought you are building binary image file with CLFS. This is not Debian installer nor this is any Debian system. So dpkg is not required. Anyway, please google and ead things like: http://cross-lfs.org/view/clfs-embedded/x86/index.html Have you done this? As I found this now, it is a nice document. You should also read http://trac.cross-lfs.org/ and their book. You do not get single line answer if there is book for it. I think you also need to learn some basics of Debian system by reading Debian documentations. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Extract attachments from message/partial emails
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:40:06AM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: Anyone knows of a program, preferably command line, that can extract attachments from a mailbox file full of message/partial emails ? You basically redeliver mbox to an account where you set up procmail or maildrop fileter with script to unpack mail such as munpack(1). For redeliver: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch06.en.html#_redeliver_mbox_contents For maildrop: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch06.en.html#_maildrop_configuration For munpack(1): http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch11.en.html#_the_mail_data_conversion Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: does find has feature to find several names
In 60f50c4a0907180345s21ecd941w29b8be4319e53...@mail.gmail.com, Soren Orel wrote: thank you, but i don't need regex, I'm just searching, that is there a shorter way in the find command to search for e.g.: two filenames find . -type f -name *.sh -o -name *.html so that I don't have to write -o -name at every time :D:P Using regex: find . -type f -regex '.*\.(sh|html)' -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 09:48:36AM +0200, Suno Ano wrote: Lee Hi, How do you read mail, stored in local maildirs, with gnus? I Gnus is by far the biggest Emacs package thus it takes a while to configure things. Maybe, if you take a look at my .emacs which can be found here http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/gnus.html it will help you a bit. Nice page, lots of info --- but how do I get gnus to work? I have no .gnus but instead I have all Gnus and other Emacs settings within .emacs. You have to navigate to the Gnus section. Yeah, you got an endless ~./emacs with a lot things in it. But that doesn't say how to get gnus to work, either. It seems to be fine with the ~/.gnus I created and happily displays an empty buffer, and that's it. BTW, is gnus good for organizing mail? Since it's a news reader, it might not support that at all because you don't organize news. I'm trying to find a MUA that supports organizing mail --- mutt, for example, doesn't; sup solves the problem by abandoning the idea of organizing mail altogether. Maybe I could use it, but it doesn't run stable enough to try it out. I don't want a GUI MUA, and it must support maildir. I want to continue using emacs or xemacs as an editor for mails. It takes a while to get working with it, but I think it is worth it. There is a lot of information starting at the following page: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryGnus -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how? [solved]
On 2009-07-19_18:57:40, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,19.Jul.09, 08:11:21, Paul E Condon wrote: I have no objection to the status of hal as a required part of a standard desktop installation, but I do have a question as to how best to deal with a peculiar situation. I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside, not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable, waiting a while, and reinserting the cable? Is there a console command that I can type that avoids the extra wear on the fragile little connectors and plugs? I'm looking for something that retriggers the look-up of volume label and the creation of a mount-point in /media as was there before I started mucking about. This thread seems interesting Correction: This thread *is* interesting http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/re-detectmount-usb-hard-drive-623089/ (the first hit when I googled: hal redetect devices) The solution is in the parted package. Thanks, Andrei. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [NOT SOLVED, BUT PROGRESS] Failure to boot after failed resume from s2something
| On Thursday 16 July 2009 22:33:44 John wrote: | On (16/07/09 20:55), Andrew Reid wrote: | | | I dimly recall setting the resume partition in the initramfs.conf | | process somewhere, but can't seem to find documentation about that | | now. | | I've looked at that documentation, without finding anything | helpful. /etc/initramfs-tools.conf.d/resume is set to the proper resume | partition. I can s2ram successfully from the one working kernel, but | of course can't experiment with the others because they won't boot. | | Hmm. So what happens if you set that to None, or unset it | entirely? I'm still stuck on the idea that bypassing the resume | process is a useful strategy, but I'm probably out of my depth | in the configuration-space sea... | I am embarrassed to admit that after days of trying, unsuccessfully, to back out of the bind, I managed to lose even the one working kernel. And I desparately needed access to gnucash. So I broke down and reinstalled. The one lesson that I learned, very, very firmly, is to pay attention to the BIG FAT WARNING -- which I had missed -- in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/power.uswsusp.txt against trying to resume from a different kernel. Clearly I was out of my depth in that sea. -- johnrchamp...@columbus.rr.com GPG key 1024D/99421A63 2005-01-05 EE51 79E9 F244 D734 A012 1CEC 7813 9FE9 9942 1A63 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 99421A63 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
laptop double-suspends (sleeps on resume first time) if I use fn-hotkey
Hi folks, I have this really weird and mildly annoying issue I cannot pin down. When I suspend my laptop (thinkpad x40 running sid) using the Fn+F4 hotkey (which sends an ACPI sleep event), my laptop sleeps. However, on trying to wake it up, once wakeup is complete (I see a flash of gnome-screensaver) the laptop sleeps again. This happens every time and exactly twice. If I use another method to sleep (call pm-suspend or use gnome-power-manager's buttons or the gnome menu) it does not occur. Can anyone suggest where to look? I was hoping I would see either one utility reporting more than one ACPI event in a log somewhere, or more than one utility reporting handling one ACPI event, but I can't see anything at all :( ii acpi-support 0.123-1 ii dbus 1.2.14-3 ii gnome-power-ma 2.24.4-3 ii hal0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-2 ii pm-utils 1.2.5-3 rc hibernate 1.94-2 rc uswsusp0.7-1.2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: lvm on an external enclosure?
On 2009-03-20 16:04, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 20 March 2009 09:02:24 Ron Johnson wrote: 1. What kind of problems or issues might I have when trying to boot and lvm doesn't see a vg? I'm guessing Linux will squawk and continue booting. Probably won't even squawk. IIRC, scanning for VGs is done during the boot process as long as you have LVM installed, whether you are using it or not. 2. More importantly, what about when I power up the external enclosure, after Linux is already running? Will lvm automagically recognize the new drives as part of their own vg? Or will I have to bounce lvm? You *may* have to run 'vgscan vgchange -ay', but that should be enough. Well, that didn't work... If I umount the fs, then power-down the enclosure, and power it back up, these are the results: # vgscan WARNING: Ignoring duplicate config node: filter (seeking filter) Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2000380952576: Input/output error /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2000381009920: Input/output error /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 4096: Input/output error /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error Found volume group backup_vg using metadata type lvm2 Found volume group main_huge_vg using metadata type lvm2 # vgchange -a y backup_vg WARNING: Ignoring duplicate config node: filter (seeking filter) /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error 1 logical volume(s) in volume group backup_vg now active # mount -v /mnt/backups mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/backup_vg-backup_lv, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [28515.817160] EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock [28515.817343] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock [28722.859373] EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock [28722.859458] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock Reboot and it works fine. Failing that, you might have to modify your lvm.conf, but that's only if lvm is, for some reason, not scanning those block devices for PV metadata. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re:OT laptop double-suspends (sleeps on resume first time) if I use fn-hotkey
We see more and more topics relating to suspend and the alike on this list. I have, myself, put question here which were more related to debian-laptop mailing list because the laptop mailing list does not have much traffic. My 2 cents to the system would be to suggest that we (people with question specific to laptop) start to post on the laptop mailing list. I will ... Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?
I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-* packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading' to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic and I'm not sure if it replaces wine, then what will happen if there will be 64bit wine?), picasa, googleearth and some other packages. Should I purge ia32-* and reinstall libc-i386 or wait? Then what I understood reading ia32-apt-get doc and some previous post it is supposed to be updated / upgraded separately to the apt-get and I assume it won't be included / supported in synaptic? -- Kind regards, Michal R. Hoffmann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo
Mark Allums wrote: ... rethinking the brand loyalty. The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current overall winner. I was an Intel guy for many years, after having been burned on no-name motherboards. Intel's products and technical support were top-shelf 10+ years ago. Then I got a CC820 board (recalled). Then they started releasing buggy BIOS updates (D945GNT). Then their technical support got arrogant. Then Intel shut down their open technical support forums. Etc.. So, I switched to AMD and Asus/NVIDIA about ~3 years ago. They work with Windows; mostly. But, Linux or BSD is another story. The reality is that there's more to a computer system than the CPU -- you need a motherboard, chipset, memory, video, sound, Ethernet, serial, parallel, USB, Firewire, eSATA, etc.. Assuming that the hardware is done right, much of that stuff requires software -- e.g. kernel support and/or device drivers. Outdated, reverse-engineered, and/or minimalist software might work for a plaything or headless ancillary server, but forget about production servers, graphical desktops, or even thin clients. Companies that get in bed with Microsoft and pay for Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL) testing ensure that their products work with Windows. (NVIDIA didn't/doesn't; therefore the problems.) But there is no single WHQL equivalent for free/ open-source software (FOSS). So, it's up to the vendors and the projects, and they don't have the Microsoft Windows tax to supplement the costs. Intel supports FOSS -- paying employees/ contractors to work on it, giving presentations/ classes, releasing technical information, releasing source code drivers, etc.. Can someone name another major PC hardware vendor who does the same? (If so, please do; I'd like to know.) The end result is that, in general, Intel stuff is better supported in the FOSS world. There are always exceptions; if you're willing to do the homework, get out your wallet, and/or do the integration/ testing. I prefer a fast, easy, and successful out-of-the-box experience, so my next motherboard and CPU are likely to be Intel. Ron Johnson wrote: I looked into Intel, but I'm trying to reuse the CPU and RAM. There's a saying -- throwing good money after bad. I mix, match, and run the old stuff until it drops or becomes useless, sell or give away the leftovers: http://www.crc.org/ and save the money for my next machine. HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Segmentation fault in dpkg and aptitude
After making the following changes to pull in sid's bluez 4.0 package in a lenny system, I'm now getting segmentation faults when I run dpkg and aptitude. Any thoughts on how to recover from this? For example: $ sudo aptitude update Segmentation fault Here are some messages from /var/log/syslog: Jul 19 13:47:38 olgas kernel: [ 1791.378162] apt-listchanges[11214]: segfault at 800 ip 00446702 sp 7fff1eb16f90 error 4 in python2.5[40+125000] Jul 19 13:47:38 olgas kernel: [ 1791.523514] apt-listchanges[11216]: segfault at 1731670 ip 004d5f08 sp 7fff8060fe80 error 4 in python2.5[40+125000] Jul 19 13:47:41 olgas kernel: [ 1794.964660] dpkg[11230]: segfault at 2008 ip 0040b0c4 sp 7fff02c49040 error 4 in dpkg[40+61000] Jul 19 13:48:22 olgas kernel: [ 1835.600343] aptitude[11320]: segfault at 118 ip 00538150 sp 7fff40c13fa0 error 4 in aptitude[40+22a000] Jul 19 13:53:06 olgas kernel: [ 2119.972216] aptitude[11630]: segfault at 7f4e555e428c ip 7f38c73a3517 sp 7fffcf840c10 error 4 in libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6.0[7f38c7365000+bd000] Here's a trimmed excerpt from /var/log/aptitude: Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:33:18 -0700 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libbluetooth3 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libnl1 [INSTALL] bluez [UPGRADE] bluez-utils 3.36-3 - 4.42-2 Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:51:29 -0700 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] consolekit [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libck-connector0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpam-ck-connector [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-dbus2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-gnome0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-grant2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-atom1 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-aux0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-event1 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] obex-data-server [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit-gnome [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] python-pyrex [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] bluez-gnome [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0 [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0-dev [INSTALL] blueman [UPGRADE] libstartup-notification0 0.9-1 - 0.10-1 [UPGRADE] libx11-6 2:1.1.5-2 - 2:1.2.1-1 [UPGRADE] libx11-dev 2:1.1.5-2 - 2:1.2.1-1 [UPGRADE] libxcb1 1.1-1.2 - 1.3-2 [UPGRADE] libxcb1-dev 1.1-1.2 - 1.3-2 -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Reg : How do I start the sshd process
Hi, Please help me with regards to the right command to start sshd process. This is preventing me from installing some softwares. Regards, Ashu
Re: Reg : How do I start the sshd process
Ashu Dash wrote: Hi, Please help me with regards to the right command to start sshd process. This is preventing me from installing some softwares. Regards, Ashu 1st thing: if you don't already have sshd installed, try: apt-get install openssh-server (that probably should start it as well) If it's just not running, try: /etc/init.d/ssh start Then make sure that your init files are set up properly: - check /etc/inittab to see what your default runlevel is (probably 2) - check /etc/rc2.d (or whatever your default is) for a file something like S16ssh (to start ssh at boot time) - if it doesn't exist, then you need to install an init file (sorry, I forget the magic incantation to create init files) -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org