Re: [Fwd: Re: RS: [Fwd: Problemes amb el driver de la placa gràfica]]

2009-08-23 Thread Daniel

En/na serni ha escrit:

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:57:00 +0200, Daniel daniel.el...@gigamail.cat
wrote:
  

Hola:

Vaig investigant coses. He descobert que amb la configuració actual (el 
xorg.conf generat automàticament pel Xorg -configuration) funciona la 
definició 1280x1024, però les coses amb 3D no van (Google, però tampoc 
determinats protectors de pantalla com el Flying Toaster i altres, 
clarament 3D). Això vol dir que no va l'accelerador?



Si instal·les el paquet mesa-utils hi trobaràs l'executable

/usr/bin/glxinfo

comprova que hi diu a 


direct rendering:



  

Em diu Violació de segment i prou.

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La nvidia del Daniel

2009-08-23 Thread serni

 Si instal·les el paquet mesa-utils hi trobaràs l'executable

 /usr/bin/glxinfo

 comprova que hi diu a 

 direct rendering:



   
 Em diu Violació de segment i prou.

Jugant jugant he acabat esmicolant la meva instal·lació del driver gràfic
així que al final la única manera que he trobat de fer que tornes a petar
correctament ha estat desinstal·lant tot el que pudia a nvidia, amb

dpkg -l *nvidia* | grep ^ii 

pots veure si tens algun paquet instal·lat

Si t'has baixat l'instal·lador des de
http://www.nvidia.es/Download/index.aspx?lang=es

assegurat que és el que correspongui per a la teva gràfica amb un 

lspci | grep VGA

n'esbrinaràs el model

a continuació, sinó ho has fet ja, instal·la el paquet module-assistant 
i com a root fes 

m-a update ; m-a prepare

ara surts de l'entorn gràfic i executes l'instal·lador de nvidia

és probable que es queixi de la versió de gcc, si ho fa sembre pots
eliminar /usr/bin/gcc i crear un enllaç simbòlic a
/usr/bin/gcc-4.versió_que_sigui

a continuació et deixo el meu xorg que penso et pot servir.

##

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeis...@builder63)  Wed May 27
03:15:36 PDT 2009

# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,
using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type man xorg.conf at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades
*only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically
updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Default Layout
Screen Default Screen 0 0
InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard
InputDeviceConfigured Mouse
EndSection

Section Files
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Generic Keyboard
Driver kbd
Option CoreKeyboard
Option XkbRules xorg
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout es
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Configured Mouse
Driver mouse
Option CorePointer
Option Device /dev/input/mice
Option Protocol ImPS/2
Option Emulate3Buttons true
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier Monitor genèric
HorizSync   28.0 - 74.0
VertRefresh 43.0 - 100.0
Option DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier Targeta de vídeo genèrica
Driver nvidia
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Default Screen
Device Targeta de vídeo genèrica
MonitorMonitor genèric
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes  1440x900 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

###

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Re: La nvidia del Daniel

2009-08-23 Thread Daniel

En/na serni ha escrit:

Si instal·les el paquet mesa-utils hi trobaràs l'executable

/usr/bin/glxinfo

comprova que hi diu a 


direct rendering:



  
  

Em diu Violació de segment i prou.



Jugant jugant he acabat esmicolant la meva instal·lació del driver gràfic
així que al final la única manera que he trobat de fer que tornes a petar
correctament ha estat desinstal·lant tot el que pudia a nvidia, amb

dpkg -l *nvidia* | grep ^ii 


pots veure si tens algun paquet instal·lat

Si t'has baixat l'instal·lador des de
http://www.nvidia.es/Download/index.aspx?lang=es

assegurat que és el que correspongui per a la teva gràfica amb un 


lspci | grep VGA

n'esbrinaràs el model

a continuació, sinó ho has fet ja, instal·la el paquet module-assistant 
i com a root fes 


m-a update ; m-a prepare

ara surts de l'entorn gràfic i executes l'instal·lador de nvidia

és probable que es queixi de la versió de gcc, si ho fa sembre pots
eliminar /usr/bin/gcc i crear un enllaç simbòlic a
/usr/bin/gcc-4.versió_que_sigui

a continuació et deixo el meu xorg que penso et pot servir.

##

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeis...@builder63)  Wed May 27
03:15:36 PDT 2009

# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,
using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type man xorg.conf at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades
*only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically
updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Default Layout
Screen Default Screen 0 0
InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard
InputDeviceConfigured Mouse
EndSection

Section Files
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Generic Keyboard
Driver kbd
Option CoreKeyboard
Option XkbRules xorg
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout es
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Configured Mouse
Driver mouse
Option CorePointer
Option Device /dev/input/mice
Option Protocol ImPS/2
Option Emulate3Buttons true
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier Monitor genèric
HorizSync   28.0 - 74.0
VertRefresh 43.0 - 100.0
Option DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier Targeta de vídeo genèrica
Driver nvidia
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Default Screen
Device Targeta de vídeo genèrica
MonitorMonitor genèric
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes  1440x900 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

###

Sort :)


  
Gràcies! He fet el que m'has dit, m'he carregat tots els paquets de 
nvidia que tenia instal·lats per dins, he tornat a instalar el driver de 
Nvidia que ja el tenia baixat, m'ha donat una pila d'errors de fitxers 
que deia que no hi eren, però s'ha acabat d'instalar i ara tot funciona 
com ha de funcionar: Google, protectors de pantalla, etc.




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libstdc++5 n'est plus disponible?

2009-08-23 Thread Pascal Ognibene
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Bonjour,

Suite à la dernière mise à jour debian/sid de mon eeepc, je constate que
je n'arrive plus à lancer le mode 'hosted' de GWT, faute de disposer de
la librairie libstdc++.so.5.

J'avais bien installé le paquet la contenant, libstdc++5. Je tente de le
réinstaller, mais si le paquet est bien dans la liste, il n'y a aucune
information de version disponible et le paquet n'est pas installable.

Je suis donc bien ennuyé, et ouvert à toute suggestion me permettant
d'installer ce paquet, vu que ça bloque le fonctionnement d'applications
tierces comme gwt, ou encore de vieux jeux natifs.

Merci de votre aide,

Pascal
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Re: Compte GMail (contacts et calendrier) dans un client sous Debian

2009-08-23 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Le Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:12:50 +0200,
Stephane LABORDE steph...@slaborde.net a écrit :
Bonsoir,

L'agenda de mon compte gmail avec celui d'une de mes machines en local 
et avec un iphone.
J'utilise Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 avec les plug-ins Lightning 0.9 et 
Provider for google calendar 0.5.

Ca me permet de synchroniser l'agenda de Thunderbird avec celui de mon 
compte google.

J'en étais arrivé à la même conclusion ;-)

D'autre part, J'ai suivi un tuto glané sur la toile pour synchroniser
un iphone sur le même compte google. Pour ça, j'utilise un serveur
exchange gratuit sur internet (nuevasync). Je ne sais pas s'il existe
d'autres solutions pour héberger un exchange soit même.

Là, par contre, ça a été plus facile...
En fait, sur l'iPhone, j'ai créé 2 paquets :
- l'un pour la messagerie (avec le compte GMail)
- l'autre pour les contacts et l'agenda (avec le même compte GMail) en
  utilisant un compte du type Exchange ActiveSync.
Et ça roule tout seul...

Pour TB+lightning : 
http://lifehacker.com/399407/how-to-sync-any-desktop-calendar-with-google-calendar
pour l'iphone :  
http://blog.simon-duhem.fr/2008/12/02/synchroniser-google-agenda-calandar-et-google-contacts-sur-son-iphone-avec-nuevasync/

J'espère que ça t'aidera.

Merci pour tes infos...

David.

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Re: libstdc++5 n'est plus disponible?

2009-08-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:29:55AM +0200, Pascal Ognibene a écrit :
 
 Je suis donc bien ennuyé, et ouvert à toute suggestion me permettant
 d'installer ce paquet, vu que ça bloque le fonctionnement d'applications
 tierces comme gwt, ou encore de vieux jeux natifs.

Bonjour,

Le paquet a été retiré de Sid, et le sera probablement de Squeeze bientôt. Il
restera bien sûr dans Lenny, qui restera disponible pendant de longues années,
d'abords dans les mirroirs officiels, et ensuite dans les archives.

Amicalement,

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Re: Problème VLC

2009-08-23 Thread Lurker

Tonio
Saturday 22 August 2009
 fabrice test a écrit :
  Bonsoir à tous,

 Bonsoir

Bonsoir,

  J'essaye veinement d'utiliser VLC sous lenny.
  Ce dernier est incapable de lire quoi que ce soit. Ni les dix, ni
  mpeg ou encore les .flv. La version est vlc / 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2.
 
  Sinon j'arrive sans problème à lire tout ces fichiers soit avec
  mplayer ou encore kmplayer.
 
  Concernant les flv, VLC me renvoit le message :
  main playlist nothing to play debian
 
  POur les autres formats :
   no suitable decoder module for fourcc ... suivi du format.

 J'avais eu un problème similaire, résolu par une
 -désinstallation de vlc,
 -une suppression de /home/toto/.vlc,
 -et une réinstallation en ayant au préalable commenté les dépôts
 multimédia dans mon sources.list.

J'avais eu ce problème également mais ça fait un moment.

À l'époque c'était un problème de conflit sur le paquet ffmpeg entre les 
dépôts de base et multimédia (français uniquement si j'ai bien compris).

Il fallait donc :
- mettre en priorité les dépôts de base sur les dépôts multimédia dans 
/etc/apt/preferences
- réinstaller les paquets : ffmpeg libavcodec51 libavdevice52 
libavformat52 libavutil49 libpostproc51 libswscale0
- effacer le cache de vlc : ~/.vlc/cache/*.dat

Et ça devrait aller si c'est le même problème.

J'avais trouvé cette solution sur le forum Sidux :
http://sidux.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-p-85911-
sid-66564e386d31ee9282475c52a9becb97.html#85911

Il était aussi indiqué que ce n'était pas considéré comme un bug et que 
rien ne serait donc changé, mais là j'en sais pas plus.


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Re: Arreter un peripherique USB par /sys

2009-08-23 Thread Lurker

Fabien LUCE
Saturday 22 August 2009
 Bonjour à tous,

Bonjour,

 Je suis sur un netbook advent avec camera integree.
[...]

 Je cherche a contrôler l'arret de mes peripheriques USB (autre que
 disque amovible) via les fichiers /sys. Je pars donc en quete d un
 fichier state dans
 /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb5/5-2/power/, mais là
 surprise, que dalle!

J'utilise un script pour arrêter un périphérique usb via /sys.

Mais dans mon cas c'est un disque dur externe.

(HS: en l'éjectant via le widget plasma qui va bien, mon disque est bien 
démonté mais reste sous tension : voyant allumé, et je le sens vibrer. 
Du coup je me suis toujours demandé si en débranchant le cordon le 
disque serait bien arrêté, et si les têtes seraient parquées etc... 
J'utilise donc une commande pour couper le courant purement et 
simplement.
Remarque : je ne sais toujours pas si le disque est mécaniquement arrêté 
correctement mais j'arrive à dormir comme ça.)

Si ça peut t'aider voici ce que j'utilise : 
- cd /sys/bus/usb/devices pour se mettre au bon endroit
- bon_usb=$(grep -H Maxtor usb?/?-?/manufacturer | cut -d/ -f1,2) là 
je cherche le bon fichier à l'aide du nom du constructeur (Maxtor dans 
mon cas)
- cd ${bon_usb}/power on se met dans le power du bon périphérique
- sudo sh -c 'echo suspend  level' pour couper la lumière
et j'ai un sleep de quelques secondes derrière par précaution.



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Re: recompilation noyau problèmatique

2009-08-23 Thread Bernard
Tout bien pensé, et à la lueur des infos recueillies ici et là (pas de 
possibilité de recompiler les noyaux antérieurs à 2.6.20 avec les outils 
récents), j'aimerais tenter une démarche assez simple - j'espère qu'elle 
n'est pas trop naïve - mais pour laquelle j'ai besoin de vos conseils, 
s'agissant d'une liste de packages utiles.


1ère étape :
apt get purge kernel-utils make gcc build-utils etc...

2 ième étape :
vi /etc/apt/sources.list
modifier ce fichier de façon à désactiver les liens vers des répertoires 
contenant des packages récents (stable, lenny, testing), ré-activer 
uniquement les répertoires de packages anciens (sarge)


3 ième étape :
apt get install kernel-utils make gcc build-utils etc...

4 ième étape :
avec ces nouveaux (anciens) outils, essayer la recompilation de mon 
noyau actuel (2.6.20-16-386) afin d'en exclure les fonctionalités audio 
incluses (c'est la but initial de la manip)


Mais j'ai besoin de connaître la liste de tous les nouveaux packages que 
je dois désactiver et remplacer par les anciens.


Merci d'avance pour votre contribution.



Bernard wrote:


Daniel Huhardeaux wrote:


Bernard a écrit :


Bonjour à tous,



bonjour



[...]
Le plus simple serait sans doute que je recompile mon noyau 
d'origine '2.6.20-16-386'



j'en doute fort:

sudo aptitude search kernel-image

p kernel-image-2.6.8-13-amd64-generic - Linux kernel image for 
version 2.6.8 on generic x86_64 systems
p kernel-image-2.6.8-13-amd64-k8 - Linux kernel image for version 
2.6.8 on AMD64 systems
p kernel-image-2.6.8-13-amd64-k8-smp - Linux kernel image for version 
2.6.8 on AMD64 SMP systems
p kernel-image-2.6.8-13-em64t-p4 - Linux kernel image for version 
2.6.8 on Intel EM64T systems
p kernel-image-2.6.8-13-em64t-p4-smp - Linux kernel image for version 
2.6.8 on Intel EM64T SMP systems

v kernel-image-2.6.8-16sarge2-custom.1

Le noyau est donc 2.6.8


[...] 'make' retourne un message d'erreur que j'ai oublié [...]



Et bien il s'agit peut être de l'information la plus importante ! ;-)

Je me souviens avoir eu des soucis avec Sarge car il s'agissait de la 
migration vers udev je crois. Mais comme votre noyau est déją en 
2.6.20, le problème doit venir d' ailleurs, vous avez bien réussi à 
le compiler et l'installer :-)



Dans un autre forum, j'ai vu qu'il y avait des problèmes pour compiler 
les anciens noyaux (avant 2.6.26) avec les outils plus récents. A 
partir de 2.6.26, j'arrive bien à compiler sans erreur, mais les 
images que j'obtiens plantent au boot. J'ai passé des heures à 
examiner le peu de messages que je puis lire à l'écran (inutile de 
préciser qu'en cas de crash aucune logfile n'est produite), examiner, 
également, les logs des boot du noyau qui boote normalement, celui que 
je n'ai pas recompilé. Je pense que, vraisemblablement, le problème 
vient de mon mkinitrd qui génère une image qui ne convient pas. Dans 
/etc/mkinitrd.conf, j'ai trouvé le passage suivant :


# Command to generate the initrd image.
# MKIMAGE='mkcramfs %s %s  /dev/null' this has been changed august 
19, 2009


MKIMAGE='genromfs -d %s -f %s'

La modif date de 3 jours... Il s'agit donc sans doute d'un fichier 
provenant d'un nouveau package update que j'ai fait ces jours 
derniers. Comme les messages aperçus à l'écran lors des crash 
faisaient référence à cramfs, j'ai eu l'idée de modifier cette 
mkinitrd.conf et de réactiver MKIMAGE='mkcramfs', et désactiver la 
ligne d'après. Après cela, les images que j'obtiens avec mkinitrd sont 
plus petites, leur taille se rapproche de celle de mes anciennes 
images. Ceci étant installé dans /boot/grub/menu.lst, le boot va plus 
loin que précédemment avant le crash... mais çà finit quand même par 
planter. J'ai fait des photos d'écran au moment des crash :


http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/bootcrash1.jpg

et

http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/bootcrash2.jpg


La première image provient d'un crash avec un noyau dans lequel 
j'avais compilé le RAID dans le noyau. L'examen des logfiles des boot 
qui marchent, m'ayant révélé qu'il est fait appel à des modules, j'ai 
refait une compil avec raid en modules. Et là çà va plus loin (voir 
seconde image), le raid se lance bien, mais ensuite il ne peut créer 
/devfs/vg-00 car il s'agit d'un read only filesystem. Ensuite : 
'incompatible livedevmapper 1.01.00-ioctl and kernel driver'


Y-a-t-il quelqu'un qui pourrait me dire quels packages purger, par 
quels packages plus anciens ou plus récents les remplacer, afin de me 
permettre de compiler un noyau qui soit bootable sur mon système 
Debian 3.1


Merci d'avance pour votre aide



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[Résolu]: [testing] passage en 2.6.30 amd64 : Problème avec la carte ATI radeon

2009-08-23 Thread Yann Cohen
Bonjour,

Au bout d'un moment, j'ai eu un doute et j'ai vérifié la version du
CPU :

elie2:~# uname -a
Linux elie2 2.6.30-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 21:08:31 UTC 2009 x86_64
GNU/Linux
elie2:~# more /proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 127
model name  : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor LE-1300
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 512 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxe xt
fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16
lahf_lm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch bogomips   : 2008.69 TLB
size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps

elie2:~# perl -e 'print ~123;'
4294967172

Et bien, cette machine n'est pas considérée comme un 64bits !

Donc retour arrière et mise en place du 32bit sans PB !

Quelle buse je suis !

Merci.

Yann.

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Re: [Résolu]: [testing] passage en 2.6.30 amd64 : Problème avec la carte ATI radeon

2009-08-23 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
Yann Cohen, dimanche 23 août 2009, 15:17:17 CEST
 
 Bonjour,

’jour,
 
 Au bout d'un moment, j'ai eu un doute et j'ai vérifié la version du
 CPU :
 
 elie2:~# uname -a
 Linux elie2 2.6.30-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 21:08:31 UTC 2009 x86_64
 GNU/Linux
 elie2:~# more /proc/cpuinfo 
 processor : 0
 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
 cpu family: 15
 model : 127
 model name: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor LE-1300
 stepping  : 2
 cpu MHz   : 1000.000
 cache size: 512 KB
 fpu   : yes
 fpu_exception : yes
 cpuid level   : 1
 wp: yes
 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
 pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxe xt
 fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16
 lahf_lm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch bogomips : 2008.69 TLB
 size  : 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64
 cache_alignment   : 64
 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
 power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
 
 elie2:~# perl -e 'print ~123;'
 4294967172
 
 Et bien, cette machine n'est pas considérée comme un 64bits !

  Bien sûr que si !
  Le drapeau lm (long mode) est présent, les adresses ont la
taille d’un amd64, et, surtout, le noyau 64 bits fonctionne sur
la machine et tu viens nous dire que celle-ci ne serait pas un
amd64 !?

 Donc retour arrière et mise en place du 32bit sans PB !
 
 Quelle buse je suis !

  Je pense plutôt que tu as un noyau 64 bits mais des programmes
utilisateur en 32 bits (d’où le résultat de l’expression Perl)
et c’est pour cela que le module ATI n’a pas voulu se compiler.

  Ne pas confondre noyau et distribution.

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Re: [Résolu]: [testing] passage en 2.6.30 amd64 : Problème avec la carte ATI radeon

2009-08-23 Thread thveillon.debian
Yann Cohen a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 Au bout d'un moment, j'ai eu un doute et j'ai vérifié la version du
 CPU :
 
 elie2:~# uname -a
 Linux elie2 2.6.30-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 21:08:31 UTC 2009 x86_64
 GNU/Linux
 elie2:~# more /proc/cpuinfo 
 processor : 0
 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
 cpu family: 15
 model : 127
 model name: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor LE-1300
 stepping  : 2
 cpu MHz   : 1000.000
 cache size: 512 KB
 fpu   : yes
 fpu_exception : yes
 cpuid level   : 1
 wp: yes
 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
 pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxe xt
 fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16
 lahf_lm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch bogomips : 2008.69 TLB
 size  : 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64
 cache_alignment   : 64
 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
 power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
 
 elie2:~# perl -e 'print ~123;'
 4294967172
 
 Et bien, cette machine n'est pas considérée comme un 64bits !
 
 Donc retour arrière et mise en place du 32bit sans PB !
 
 Quelle buse je suis !
 
 Merci.
 
 Yann.
 
Arf! Ça arrive à tout le monde, c'est bon signe pour l'architecture
AMD64 de voir qu'on la considère comme une chose acquise !
Il y a peu j'ai perdu un moment à faire fonctionner kvm sur un
processeur c2duo qui... ne possédait pas les fonction de virtualisation.
J'étais convaincu que tous les c2duo la supportait. :-(

Bonne continuation.

Tom

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Re: Arreter un peripherique USB par /sys

2009-08-23 Thread Fabien LUCE
Ca fonctionne effectivement mais je vois plus ta solution comme une méthode 
liee à l'ACPI.
D'ailleurs la lumiere de ma camera integree n'est pas eteinte...

Mais j'ai bcp cherché dans tout type de forum et je dois dire que e suis 
surepris qu'il n'y ai pas de réponse à cette question...

Merci, a+




On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:58:30AM +0200, Lurker wrote:
 
 Fabien LUCE
 Saturday 22 August 2009
  Bonjour à tous,
 
 Bonjour,
 
  Je suis sur un netbook advent avec camera integree.
 [...]
 
  Je cherche a contrôler l'arret de mes peripheriques USB (autre que
  disque amovible) via les fichiers /sys. Je pars donc en quete d un
  fichier state dans
  /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb5/5-2/power/, mais là
  surprise, que dalle!
 
 J'utilise un script pour arrêter un périphérique usb via /sys.
 
 Mais dans mon cas c'est un disque dur externe.
 
 (HS: en l'éjectant via le widget plasma qui va bien, mon disque est bien 
 démonté mais reste sous tension : voyant allumé, et je le sens vibrer. 
 Du coup je me suis toujours demandé si en débranchant le cordon le 
 disque serait bien arrêté, et si les têtes seraient parquées etc... 
 J'utilise donc une commande pour couper le courant purement et 
 simplement.
 Remarque : je ne sais toujours pas si le disque est mécaniquement arrêté 
 correctement mais j'arrive à dormir comme ça.)
 
 Si ça peut t'aider voici ce que j'utilise : 
 - cd /sys/bus/usb/devices pour se mettre au bon endroit
 - bon_usb=$(grep -H Maxtor usb?/?-?/manufacturer | cut -d/ -f1,2) là 
 je cherche le bon fichier à l'aide du nom du constructeur (Maxtor dans 
 mon cas)
 - cd ${bon_usb}/power on se met dans le power du bon périphérique
 - sudo sh -c 'echo suspend  level' pour couper la lumière
 et j'ai un sleep de quelques secondes derrière par précaution.
 
 
 
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Re: [Résolu]: [testing] passage en 2.6.30 amd64 : Problème avec la carte ATI radeon

2009-08-23 Thread S e r g e
Le Sunday 23 August 2009 15:57:12 thveillon.debian, vous avez écrit :
 Yann Cohen a écrit :
  Bonjour,
Salut;
 
  Au bout d'un moment, j'ai eu un doute et j'ai vérifié la version du
  CPU :
 
  elie2:~# uname -a
  Linux elie2 2.6.30-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 21:08:31 UTC 2009 x86_64
  GNU/Linux
  elie2:~# more /proc/cpuinfo
  processor   : 0
  vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
  cpu family  : 15
  model   : 127
  model name  : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor LE-1300
  stepping: 2
  cpu MHz : 1000.000
  cache size  : 512 KB
  fpu : yes
  fpu_exception   : yes
  cpuid level : 1
  wp  : yes
  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
  pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxe xt
  fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16
  lahf_lm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch bogomips   : 2008.69 TLB
  size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64
  cache_alignment : 64
  address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
  power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
 
  elie2:~# perl -e 'print ~123;'
  4294967172

Tu utilises Perl 32 bits sur un kernel 64?? 
C'est comme si tu configurais ton dernier HD SATA super truc muche
avec DMA 33 . D'accord  j'exagéré , mais tu imagines la perte !!

% perl -V --  donne les options de compilation

 
  Et bien, cette machine n'est pas considérée comme un 64bits !
 
  Donc retour arrière et mise en place du 32bit sans PB !
 
  Quelle buse je suis !
 
  Merci.
 
  Yann.

 Arf! Ça arrive à tout le monde, c'est bon signe pour l'architecture
 AMD64 de voir qu'on la considère comme une chose acquise !
 Il y a peu j'ai perdu un moment à faire fonctionner kvm sur un
 processeur c2duo qui... ne possédait pas les fonction de virtualisation.
 J'étais convaincu que tous les c2duo la supportait. :-(

 Bonne continuation.

 Tom



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Re: [Résolu]: [testing] passage en 2.6.30 amd64 : Problème avec la carte ATI radeon

2009-08-23 Thread Yann Cohen
Le Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:51:21 +0200,
Sylvain Sauvage sylvain.sauv...@metanoesis.net a écrit :

 Yann Cohen, dimanche 23 août 2009, 15:17:17 CEST
[...]
 
   Ne pas confondre noyau et distribution.
 
D'accord, je me rends !

Et en plus cela explique pourquoi le noyau tournait...

Je vais mettre cela sur le compte de la première install pas fait en
64bits. Mais maintenant ?

Si en effet j'ai un truc bancale sur lequel je dispose d'un petit
64bits, comment rebasculer le tout en 64bits ?

Quelle option magique de nos chers mainteneurs (aptitude, apt-get,
etc..) va pouvoir rétablir tout cela ?

merci.

Yann.

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[SOLVED] Re: raid 1 qui foire ?

2009-08-23 Thread steve
Bonjour la liste,

Bon je suis de retour et je me suis attaqué au remplacement du disque
dur (sda) qui me donnait des soucis. La procédure est maintenant terminée avec
succès. Pour les archives et pour ceux qui se retrouveraient dans la même
situation que moi, voici comment j'ai fait.

1) mise en fail et retrait du disque défaillant 

mdadm /dev/md0 --fail /dev/sda1
mdadm /dev/md0 --remove /dev/sda1

et pareil pour tous les 8 autres (j'en avais 9). Le système ne tourne
maintenant que sur une patte, croisons les doigts...

2) Remplacement du disque dur

Alors que la machine est toujours allumée, je retire l'alimentation et
le câble sata de l'ancien disque, le retire, et le remplace par le
nouveau, le connecte et branche l'alimentation. syslog me montre que le
nouveau disque est vu sous le nom /dev/sdc. (Au premier redémarrage, il
deviendra /dev/sda, mais pour le moment c'est sdc.)

3) Création des partitions sur le nouveau disque.

Pour ne pas faire de bêtise, j'utilise sfdisk pour reprendre la même
configuration du disque qui tourne pour la mettre sur le nouveau.

sfdisk --dump /dev/sdb | sfdisk /dev/sdc

4) Reconstruction

Il faut maintenant reconstruire les arrays

mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdc1

et ainsi de suite pour les 8 autres. Un 

watch cat /proc/mdstat

permet de voir l'évolution de la reconstruction en direct. Cette étape
prend du temps bien évidemment. Après une heure environ, tous mes arrays
sont reconstruits. 

5) Renseignement de /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

Ce fichier contient la description des disque utilisés pour le raid, il
est donc actuellement obsolète. Un

mdadm --detail --scan  /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

ajoute à la fin du fichier les bonnes valeurs. J'ai commenté les
anciennes juste au-dessus. Aussi cette commande ajoute un champs «
metadata=00.90 » dont je ne connais pas la signification mais qui
renvoie une erreur au redémarrage de la machine. Je les ai effacé (mais
pas encore redémarré depuis...).

6) Grub

Pour pouvoir quand même redémarrer au cas où un disque me lâche, il faut
installer grub dans les deux disques.

# grub
 root (hd0,0)
 setup (hd0)
 root (hd1,0)
 setup (hd1)
 exit

Et ajouter une ligne dans le /boot/grum/menu.lst (merci Daniel !)

default 0
fallback 1 

et ajouter une entrée en deuxième position :

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.30-1-amd64
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /vmlinuz-2.6.30-1-amd64 root=/dev/md1 ro
initrd  /initrd.img-2.6.30-1-amd64

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.30-1-amd64
root(hd1,0)
kernel  /vmlinuz-2.6.30-1-amd64 root=/dev/md1 ro
initrd  /initrd.img-2.6.30-1-amd64


Observez la ligne root.

Voilà tout semble prêt pour un redémarrage. Ce que je fait, mais le
système se bloque sur un kernel panic dû à un problème de swap. Pas
grave j'éteins sauvagement et rallume. Le système démarre bien mais les
arrays sont maintenant dégradés et il faut donc les resynchroniser, ce
qui se fait tous seul maintenant.


Mon système semble maintenant en parfaite santé, je vais pouvoir aller
dormir du sommeil du Sage (si mon petit dernier de 5 mois me laisse,
mais ça c'est une autre histoire...)


Avec le disque dur qui me donnait des soucis, je ne sais pas encore ce
que je vais faire, peut-être une grosse partition test, on verra. Si
vous avez des idées, n'hésitez pas à m'en faire part.

Merci à tous pour vos conseils avisés.


Steve


PS : quelle est la meilleure traduction en français de « array » ?

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Re: [Résolu]: [testing] passage en 2.6.30 amd64 : Problème avec la carte ATI radeon

2009-08-23 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
Yann Cohen, dimanche 23 août 2009, 20:20:13 CEST
[…]
 Je vais mettre cela sur le compte de la première install pas fait en
 64bits. Mais maintenant ?
 
 Si en effet j'ai un truc bancale sur lequel je dispose d'un petit
 64bits, comment rebasculer le tout en 64bits ?
 
 Quelle option magique de nos chers mainteneurs (aptitude, apt-get,
 etc..) va pouvoir rétablir tout cela ?

  Le programme magique s’appelle debian-installer…

  Il n’y a pas d’autre solution que réinstaller. i386 et amd64
sont deux architectures différentes, au même titre que mips ou
sparc64.
  Pour faire simple, dpkg (donc APT, donc aptitude cie) a
enregistré « l’architecture est i386 » dans un coin  et ça ne
peut pas être changé, parce que tout (les paquets, les listes,
tout ce qui fait le système de paquet en somme) en dépend et
qu’il faudrait tellement tout changer en un seul coup que c’est
impossible. Tout réinstaller est plus simple.

  En revanche, une fois installée, l’architecture amd64 peut
bien faire fonctionner des programmes utilisateur i386 (ia32).

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: raid 1 qui foire ?

2009-08-23 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
steve, dimanche 23 août 2009, 22:27:06 CEST
 
 Bonjour la liste,

’soir,
 
[…]
 PS : quelle est la meilleure traduction en français de « array » ?

  Dans ce cas, « matrice (de disque) ».

  Cf. http://www.granddictionnaire.com (Office québécois de la
langue française, les propositions sont parfois un peu, euh, on
dira belles-provinciales mais c’est bien fait.)

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Aucun son sur Asus notebook F6E

2009-08-23 Thread Emmanuel
Bonsoir la liste,

J'ai installé une Debian Lenny sur un portable Asus F6Eseries.
Tout c'est bien passé, mis à part pour le son et le firmware !

En effet, je n'ai aucun son qui sort et pas grand chose sur notre ami
Google concernant ce problème sur le F6Eseries.

Auriez-vous des pistes à ce sujet ?

Merci à toutes et à tous.

Emmanuel.

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Re: [Résolu]: [testing] passage en 2.6.30 amd64 : Problème avec la carte ATI radeon

2009-08-23 Thread yann
Le Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:25:16 +0200,
Sylvain Sauvage sylvain.sauv...@metanoesis.net a écrit :

[...]
   Le programme magique s’appelle debian-installer…
[...]
Merci, cela clos le sujet et me permet d'espérer encore quelques
occupations du WE...
M'enfin tant que le gamin ne fait que de la bureautique avec, j'ai un
peu de temps pour planifier l'action...

Merci à tous et bonne semaine.
Yann.

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Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread JL

Uso Debian testing.

Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el Adobe Flash Player, y ante 
la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi instalarle el que habia para 
Ubuntu.


No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora no puedo actualizar 
Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin esta mal instalado y debo 
arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se hace eso. No puedo removerlo ni 
purgarlo con aptitude desde la linea de comandos, y no puedo abrir Synaptic.



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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread JL

JL escribió:

Uso Debian testing.

Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el Adobe Flash Player, y 
ante la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi instalarle el que habia 
para Ubuntu.


No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora no puedo actualizar 
Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin esta mal instalado y debo 
arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se hace eso. No puedo removerlo 
ni purgarlo con aptitude desde la linea de comandos, y no puedo abrir 
Synaptic.




Me respondo a mi mismo con nuevos datos.


dpkg -C
Los siguientes paquetes están en un estado de desorden debido a serios
problemas durante la instalación. Deben ser reinstalados para que ellos
(y los paquetes que dependen de ellos) funcionen correctamente:
adobe-flashpluginAdobe Flash Player plugin version 10



dpkg -i flash.deb
Seleccionando el paquete adobe-flashplugin previamente no seleccionado.
(Leyendo la base de datos ...  00%
145375 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
Preparando para reemplazar adobe-flashplugin 10.0.32.18-1 (usando 
flash.deb) ...

update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
dpkg: warning: script de `pre-removal' antiguo returned error exit status 2
dpkg - probando el script del nuevo paquete en su lugar...
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
dpkg: error al procesar flash.deb (--install):
el subproceso script pre-removal nuevo devolvió el código de salida de 
error 2

postinst called with argument `abort-upgrade'
dpkg: error al reorganizar:
el subproceso installed post-installation script devolvió el código de 
salida de error 1

Se encontraron errores al procesar:
flash.deb


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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread Javier Marta
¿Intentaste con apt-get -f install?

-
Usemos software libre
http://www.gnu.org/ http://www.gnu.org/home.es.html
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html


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Re: Comparar multiples imagenes

2009-08-23 Thread ghostDancer
2009/8/23 Altair Linux altairli...@gmail.com:
 Hola, en ocasiones tengo que manejar muchas imagenes, y algunas de ellas
 estan repetidas. Esta repeticion puede ser algo tan simple como que una
 imagen tenga mas resolucion que otra, o que sean la misma imagen pero con
 distintos nombres, cosas asi.

 ¿Hay algun programa que me sirva para controlar esto?. Cuando son pocas
 imagenes no se nota mucho, pero cuando tienes unos cuantos cientos de
 imagenes y tienes que controlar cada una de ellas, si se nota.

 Gracias


Buenas,

en gqview tienes la opción de compararlas, de diferentes maneras, por
similitud, tamaño, etc..

echale un vistazo, es fácil y comodo.

saludos


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Imagenes partimage

2009-08-23 Thread GarZa
Hola, ¿se puede explorar una imagen hecha con partimage? Me refiero a 
que si se puede montar o navegar por su contenido para extraer sólo 
algunos archivos.


Un Saludo.


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Re: Comparar multiples imagenes

2009-08-23 Thread ghostDancer
2009/8/23 Altair Linux altairli...@gmail.com:
 Me tope con ese programa de casualidad hace unas horas, pero por mas que
 miro en la ayuda no veo como hacerlo. He creado unas colecciones a ver si
 asi es como va, pero no me aclaro.




Buenas,

en el menú de archivos seleccionas buscar duplicados y en la ventana
que se abre arrastras todos los archivos que quieras comparar, eliges
abajo el tipo de comparación que quieres hacer, por nombre ,
similitud, tamaño, etc .., selecciona ver miniaturas, aunque es más
lento se ve más claro, también tienes la posibilidad de comparar 2
grupos de imágenes pero eso no lo he probado.


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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread Galileo Galilei
El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 09:07 +0200, JL escribió:
 Uso Debian testing.
 
 Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el Adobe Flash Player, y ante 
 la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi instalarle el que habia para 
 Ubuntu.
 
 No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora no puedo actualizar 
 Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin esta mal instalado y debo 
 arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se hace eso. No puedo removerlo ni 
 purgarlo con aptitude desde la linea de comandos, y no puedo abrir Synaptic.
 
Intenta con control+alt+f1 al hacer eso te sale una pantalla tipo dos. Usuario 
pones root paswword 
clave del root. Y entonces trata de darle el aptitude purge paquete.
Para regresar a modo gráfico logout primero para salir de root y luego
control+alt+f7.
O sin salir de root puedes escribir reboot y se reinicia.
Y cuentanos que te arroja al tratar de purgarlo.




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Re: Sistema Administrativo/Contable en Linux y Open Source

2009-08-23 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)



Manolo Díaz escribió:

El Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:45:13 -0400
Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:

  

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522584

  

creo que esta es la respuesta, gracias Manolo.
Si alguien tiene mayor info se agradece.

Suerte





¿Te refieres a mayor información acerca de porqué no está en testing?
Quizá mi correo anterior haya sido un poco parco en palabras.

Por lo que se lee en el informe de fallo al que me refiero,
bulmages-common depende de kpdf, que desaparece de testing con kde4.
Esto dejaría a un paquete con problemas de dependencias en testing, lo
que está prohibido por la política de Debian (véase el punto 4 de este
enlace: http://www.debian.org/devel/testing).

Quedan las siguientes opciones:

1. Mantener la versión antigua de KDE. Pero si ha de esperar a que
todas la aplicaciones que dependan de él se actualicen esta situación
pude llegar a ser muy duradera.

2. Mantener versiones antigua y más moderna. Durante un tiempo esto
sucedió con la biblioteca gtk, que mantuvo versiones 1.x y 2.x.

3. Sacar temporalmente a bulmages de testing hasta que se actualice y
resuelva así sus problemas de dependencias. Entonces volverá.

Parece ser que han optado por la tercera.

Saludos.
  

Hola a t...@s:

Gracias Manolo, ahora creo que ya he cogido la idea, de porque no esta 
en testing.
Debido a este hecho, los que quieran tener burmages, tendrán que tener 
en sus sistema testing y unestable (los paquetes necesarios para 
instalar y que funcione burmages), es decir un sistema híbrido.


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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread Manolo Díaz
El Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:12:33 +0200
JL jl...@telefonica.net escribió:

 JL escribió:
  Uso Debian testing.
 
  Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el Adobe Flash Player, y 
  ante la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi instalarle el que
  habia para Ubuntu.
 
  No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora no puedo actualizar 
  Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin esta mal instalado y
  debo arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se hace eso. No puedo
  removerlo ni purgarlo con aptitude desde la linea de comandos, y no
  puedo abrir Synaptic.
 
 
 Me respondo a mi mismo con nuevos datos.
 
 
 dpkg -C
 Los siguientes paquetes están en un estado de desorden debido a serios
 problemas durante la instalación. Deben ser reinstalados para que
 ellos (y los paquetes que dependen de ellos) funcionen correctamente:
  adobe-flashpluginAdobe Flash Player plugin version 10
 
 
 
 dpkg -i flash.deb
 Seleccionando el paquete adobe-flashplugin previamente no
 seleccionado. (Leyendo la base de datos ...  00%
 145375 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
 Preparando para reemplazar adobe-flashplugin 10.0.32.18-1 (usando 
 flash.deb) ...
 update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
 update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
 dpkg: warning: script de `pre-removal' antiguo returned error exit
 status 2 dpkg - probando el script del nuevo paquete en su lugar...
 update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
 update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
 dpkg: error al procesar flash.deb (--install):
  el subproceso script pre-removal nuevo devolvió el código de salida
 de error 2
 postinst called with argument `abort-upgrade'
 dpkg: error al reorganizar:
  el subproceso installed post-installation script devolvió el código
 de salida de error 1
 Se encontraron errores al procesar:
  flash.deb
 
 

adobe-flashplugin tampoco es un paquete de Debian, sino de Ubuntu. Si
de verdad tienes instalada una Debian mejor usa
flashplugin-nonfree y no mezcles distribuciones. Si lo que tienes es una
Ubuntu entonces mira la opción --force-help de dpkg. Tal vez te ayude.

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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread Mauricio J. Adonis C.
El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 15:52 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:
 El Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:12:33 +0200
 JL jl...@telefonica.net escribió:
 
  JL escribió:
   Uso Debian testing.
  
   Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el Adobe Flash Player, y 
   ante la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi instalarle el que
   habia para Ubuntu.
  
   No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora no puedo actualizar 
   Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin esta mal instalado y
   debo arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se hace eso. No puedo
   removerlo ni purgarlo con aptitude desde la linea de comandos, y no
   puedo abrir Synaptic.
  
  
  Me respondo a mi mismo con nuevos datos.
  
  
  dpkg -C
  Los siguientes paquetes están en un estado de desorden debido a serios
  problemas durante la instalación. Deben ser reinstalados para que
  ellos (y los paquetes que dependen de ellos) funcionen correctamente:
   adobe-flashpluginAdobe Flash Player plugin version 10
  
  
  
  dpkg -i flash.deb
  Seleccionando el paquete adobe-flashplugin previamente no
  seleccionado. (Leyendo la base de datos ...  00%
  145375 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
  Preparando para reemplazar adobe-flashplugin 10.0.32.18-1 (usando 
  flash.deb) ...
  update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
  update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
  dpkg: warning: script de `pre-removal' antiguo returned error exit
  status 2 dpkg - probando el script del nuevo paquete en su lugar...
  update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
  update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
  dpkg: error al procesar flash.deb (--install):
   el subproceso script pre-removal nuevo devolvió el código de salida
  de error 2
  postinst called with argument `abort-upgrade'
  dpkg: error al reorganizar:
   el subproceso installed post-installation script devolvió el código
  de salida de error 1
  Se encontraron errores al procesar:
   flash.deb
  
  
 
 adobe-flashplugin tampoco es un paquete de Debian, sino de Ubuntu. Si
 de verdad tienes instalada una Debian mejor usa
 flashplugin-nonfree y no mezcles distribuciones. Si lo que tienes es una
 Ubuntu entonces mira la opción --force-help de dpkg. Tal vez te ayude.
 
 Suerte. Un saludo.
 -- 
 Manolo Díaz
 
 

Amigo, instalar el plugin de flash player es tan re-fácil... que no era
necesario que pasaras por todos estos inconvenientes.

Basta descargar el paquete .tar.gz del plugin (en vez de selccionar .deb
selecionas .tar.gz) y descomprimirlo (libflashplayer.so) en el
directorio /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, si usas Firefox.

IceWeasel me parece que tiene los plugins en otra parte, no estoy
seguro, pero es lo mismo... se descomprime el plugin en el
correspondiente directorio de plugins de IceWeasel y listo.
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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread haldrik
El 23 de agosto de 2009 09:35, Mauricio J. Adonis C. 
mike.alfa.2...@gmail.com escribió:

 El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 15:52 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:
  El Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:12:33 +0200
  JL jl...@telefonica.net escribió:
 
   JL escribió:
Uso Debian testing.
   
Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el Adobe Flash Player, y
ante la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi instalarle el que
habia para Ubuntu.
   
No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora no puedo actualizar
Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin esta mal instalado y
debo arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se hace eso. No puedo
removerlo ni purgarlo con aptitude desde la linea de comandos, y no
puedo abrir Synaptic.
   
   
   Me respondo a mi mismo con nuevos datos.
  
  
   dpkg -C
   Los siguientes paquetes están en un estado de desorden debido a serios
   problemas durante la instalación. Deben ser reinstalados para que
   ellos (y los paquetes que dependen de ellos) funcionen correctamente:
adobe-flashpluginAdobe Flash Player plugin version 10
  
  
  
   dpkg -i flash.deb
   Seleccionando el paquete adobe-flashplugin previamente no
   seleccionado. (Leyendo la base de datos ...  00%
   145375 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
   Preparando para reemplazar adobe-flashplugin 10.0.32.18-1 (usando
   flash.deb) ...
   update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
   update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
   dpkg: warning: script de `pre-removal' antiguo returned error exit
   status 2 dpkg - probando el script del nuevo paquete en su lugar...
   update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
   update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
   dpkg: error al procesar flash.deb (--install):
el subproceso script pre-removal nuevo devolvió el código de salida
   de error 2
   postinst called with argument `abort-upgrade'
   dpkg: error al reorganizar:
el subproceso installed post-installation script devolvió el código
   de salida de error 1
   Se encontraron errores al procesar:
flash.deb
  
  
 
  adobe-flashplugin tampoco es un paquete de Debian, sino de Ubuntu. Si
  de verdad tienes instalada una Debian mejor usa
  flashplugin-nonfree y no mezcles distribuciones. Si lo que tienes es una
  Ubuntu entonces mira la opción --force-help de dpkg. Tal vez te ayude.
 
  Suerte. Un saludo.
  --
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 Amigo, instalar el plugin de flash player es tan re-fácil... que no era
 necesario que pasaras por todos estos inconvenientes.

 Basta descargar el paquete .tar.gz del plugin (en vez de selccionar .deb
 selecionas .tar.gz) y descomprimirlo (libflashplayer.so) en el
 directorio /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, si usas Firefox.

 IceWeasel me parece que tiene los plugins en otra parte, no estoy
 seguro, pero es lo mismo... se descomprime el plugin en el
 correspondiente directorio de plugins de IceWeasel y listo.
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Trata de purgar el paquete con dpkg -P, si esto no te
funciona entonces usa update-alternatives para crear
las alternativas para iceape, osea las que te está pidiendo
apt y así reconfiguras el paquete como lo estás intentando.

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Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread haldrik
Hola, a alguien le ha sucedido que con las últimas versiones
de virtualbox-sun a partir de la 3 les anda mas lento las máquinas
virtuales que habían creado en versiones previas? obviamente
habiendo actualizado los guest-additions.

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Re: Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread lin lista
Mas lentitud no...lo que a mi me sucede es que gusto las maquinas con
arch cuando esta cargando...da un error de virtualvox...no si a alguno
mas le paso pero a mi me paso en mas de un equipo diferente



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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread Galileo Galilei
El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 10:43 -0500, haldrik escribió:
 El 23 de agosto de 2009 09:35, Mauricio J. Adonis C.
 mike.alfa.2...@gmail.com escribió:
 El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 15:52 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:
 
  El Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:12:33 +0200
  JL jl...@telefonica.net escribió:
 
   JL escribió:
Uso Debian testing.
   
Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el Adobe Flash
 Player, y
ante la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi
 instalarle el que
habia para Ubuntu.
   
No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora no puedo
 actualizar
Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin esta mal
 instalado y
debo arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se hace eso.
 No puedo
removerlo ni purgarlo con aptitude desde la linea de
 comandos, y no
puedo abrir Synaptic.
   
   
   Me respondo a mi mismo con nuevos datos.
  
  
   dpkg -C
   Los siguientes paquetes están en un estado de desorden
 debido a serios
   problemas durante la instalación. Deben ser reinstalados
 para que
   ellos (y los paquetes que dependen de ellos) funcionen
 correctamente:
adobe-flashpluginAdobe Flash Player plugin version 10
  
  
  
   dpkg -i flash.deb
   Seleccionando el paquete adobe-flashplugin previamente no
   seleccionado. (Leyendo la base de datos ...  00%
   145375 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
   Preparando para reemplazar adobe-flashplugin 10.0.32.18-1
 (usando
   flash.deb) ...
   update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
 iceape-flashplugin.
   update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
 iceape-flashplugin.
   dpkg: warning: script de `pre-removal' antiguo returned
 error exit
   status 2 dpkg - probando el script del nuevo paquete en su
 lugar...
   update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
 iceape-flashplugin.
   update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
 iceape-flashplugin.
   dpkg: error al procesar flash.deb (--install):
el subproceso script pre-removal nuevo devolvió el código
 de salida
   de error 2
   postinst called with argument `abort-upgrade'
   dpkg: error al reorganizar:
el subproceso installed post-installation script devolvió
 el código
   de salida de error 1
   Se encontraron errores al procesar:
flash.deb
  
  
 
  adobe-flashplugin tampoco es un paquete de Debian, sino de
 Ubuntu. Si
  de verdad tienes instalada una Debian mejor usa
  flashplugin-nonfree y no mezcles distribuciones. Si lo que
 tienes es una
  Ubuntu entonces mira la opción --force-help de dpkg. Tal vez
 te ayude.
 
  Suerte. Un saludo.
  --
  Manolo Díaz
 
 
 
 
 Amigo, instalar el plugin de flash player es tan re-fácil...
 que no era
 necesario que pasaras por todos estos inconvenientes.
 
 Basta descargar el paquete .tar.gz del plugin (en vez de
 selccionar .deb
 selecionas .tar.gz) y descomprimirlo (libflashplayer.so) en el
 directorio /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, si usas Firefox.
 
 IceWeasel me parece que tiene los plugins en otra parte, no
 estoy
 seguro, pero es lo mismo... se descomprime el plugin en el
 correspondiente directorio de plugins de IceWeasel y listo.
 --
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 Trata de purgar el paquete con dpkg -P, si esto no te
 funciona entonces usa update-alternatives para crear
 las alternativas para iceape, osea las que te está pidiendo
 apt y así reconfiguras el paquete como lo estás intentando.

Y para la otra vez la otra opción es el mozilla flashplayer que está en
los repos multimedia. 
 
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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-23 Thread Marco
2009/8/23 Galileo Galilei correo...@gmail.com

 El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 10:43 -0500, haldrik escribió:
  El 23 de agosto de 2009 09:35, Mauricio J. Adonis C.
  mike.alfa.2...@gmail.com escribió:
  El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 15:52 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:
 
   El Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:12:33 +0200
   JL jl...@telefonica.net escribió:
  
JL escribió:
 Uso Debian testing.

 Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el Adobe Flash
  Player, y
 ante la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi
  instalarle el que
 habia para Ubuntu.

 No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora no puedo
  actualizar
 Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin esta mal
  instalado y
 debo arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se hace eso.
  No puedo
 removerlo ni purgarlo con aptitude desde la linea de
  comandos, y no
 puedo abrir Synaptic.


Me respondo a mi mismo con nuevos datos.
   
   
dpkg -C
Los siguientes paquetes están en un estado de desorden
  debido a serios
problemas durante la instalación. Deben ser reinstalados
  para que
ellos (y los paquetes que dependen de ellos) funcionen
  correctamente:
 adobe-flashpluginAdobe Flash Player plugin version 10
   
   
   
dpkg -i flash.deb
Seleccionando el paquete adobe-flashplugin previamente no
seleccionado. (Leyendo la base de datos ...  00%
145375 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
Preparando para reemplazar adobe-flashplugin 10.0.32.18-1
  (usando
flash.deb) ...
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
  iceape-flashplugin.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
  iceape-flashplugin.
dpkg: warning: script de `pre-removal' antiguo returned
  error exit
status 2 dpkg - probando el script del nuevo paquete en su
  lugar...
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
  iceape-flashplugin.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
  iceape-flashplugin.
dpkg: error al procesar flash.deb (--install):
 el subproceso script pre-removal nuevo devolvió el código
  de salida
de error 2
postinst called with argument `abort-upgrade'
dpkg: error al reorganizar:
 el subproceso installed post-installation script devolvió
  el código
de salida de error 1
Se encontraron errores al procesar:
 flash.deb
   
   
  
   adobe-flashplugin tampoco es un paquete de Debian, sino de
  Ubuntu. Si
   de verdad tienes instalada una Debian mejor usa
   flashplugin-nonfree y no mezcles distribuciones. Si lo que
  tienes es una
   Ubuntu entonces mira la opción --force-help de dpkg. Tal vez
  te ayude.
  
   Suerte. Un saludo.
   --
   Manolo Díaz
  
  
 
 
  Amigo, instalar el plugin de flash player es tan re-fácil...
  que no era
  necesario que pasaras por todos estos inconvenientes.
 
  Basta descargar el paquete .tar.gz del plugin (en vez de
  selccionar .deb
  selecionas .tar.gz) y descomprimirlo (libflashplayer.so) en el
  directorio /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, si usas Firefox.
 
  IceWeasel me parece que tiene los plugins en otra parte, no
  estoy
  seguro, pero es lo mismo... se descomprime el plugin en el
  correspondiente directorio de plugins de IceWeasel y listo.
  --
  Saludos,
  Mauricio J. Adonis C.
 
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  Trata de purgar el paquete con dpkg -P, si esto no te
  funciona entonces usa update-alternatives para crear
  las alternativas para iceape, osea las que te está pidiendo
  apt y así reconfiguras el paquete como lo estás intentando.

 Y para la otra vez la otra opción es el mozilla flashplayer que está en
 los repos multimedia.
 


Todavia más facil:

apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree



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Re: Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread Juan Manuel Acuña Barrera

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El 23/08/2009, a las 01:08 p.m., lin lista escribió:


Mas lentitud no...lo que a mi me sucede es que gusto las maquinas con
arch cuando esta cargando...da un error de virtualvox...no si a alguno
mas le paso pero a mi me paso en mas de un equipo diferente



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Pues yo he de tener mala suerte con VirtualBox, por que me pasan ambas  
cosas, primero, va mas lento y luego ya me estropeó una maquina  
virtual, me arrojó un error al momento de arrancar la maquina y ya  
después no pude volverla a arrancar :(


Pensé que solo me pasaba a mi.

Como información adicional, esto me pasó en un virtualbox en Debian  
(ambas cosas) y en uno instalado en MacOSX (lo segundo), por lo que no  
le achaco el error a Debian, sino a virtualbox.


Saludos!


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Re: Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread Juan Lavieri

Juan Manuel Acuña Barrera escribió:

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El 23/08/2009, a las 01:08 p.m., lin lista escribió:


Mas lentitud no...lo que a mi me sucede es que gusto las maquinas con
arch cuando esta cargando...da un error de virtualvox...no si a alguno
mas le paso pero a mi me paso en mas de un equipo diferente



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Pues yo he de tener mala suerte con VirtualBox, por que me pasan ambas 
cosas, primero, va mas lento y luego ya me estropeó una maquina 
virtual, me arrojó un error al momento de arrancar la maquina y ya 
después no pude volverla a arrancar :(


Pensé que solo me pasaba a mi.

Como información adicional, esto me pasó en un virtualbox en Debian 
(ambas cosas) y en uno instalado en MacOSX (lo segundo), por lo que no 
le achaco el error a Debian, sino a virtualbox.


Saludos!


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Saludos Listeros.

Yo comencé a tener problemas con virtualbox no al cambiar la versión de 
éste, sino al instalar el kernel 2.6.30, por ello tuve que devolverme al 
2.6.26 que tenía anteriormente.  Estoy investigando si es un posible bug.


Espero que mi comentario sea de utilidad

Éxito.

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Re: Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread haldrik
El 23 de agosto de 2009 20:35, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@cantv.net escribió:

 Juan Manuel Acuña Barrera escribió:

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  Mas lentitud no...lo que a mi me sucede es que gusto las maquinas con
 arch cuando esta cargando...da un error de virtualvox...no si a alguno
 mas le paso pero a mi me paso en mas de un equipo diferente



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 Pues yo he de tener mala suerte con VirtualBox, por que me pasan ambas
 cosas, primero, va mas lento y luego ya me estropeó una maquina virtual, me
 arrojó un error al momento de arrancar la maquina y ya después no pude
 volverla a arrancar :(

 Pensé que solo me pasaba a mi.

 Como información adicional, esto me pasó en un virtualbox en Debian (ambas
 cosas) y en uno instalado en MacOSX (lo segundo), por lo que no le achaco el
 error a Debian, sino a virtualbox.

 Saludos!


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  Saludos Listeros.

 Yo comencé a tener problemas con virtualbox no al cambiar la versión de
 éste, sino al instalar el kernel 2.6.30, por ello tuve que devolverme al
 2.6.26 que tenía anteriormente.  Estoy investigando si es un posible bug.

 Espero que mi comentario sea de utilidad

 Éxito.

 Juan Lavieri



 mmm, puede ser porque yo estoy usando 2.6.30 pero también
me pasa con 2.6.29, voy a probar con 2.6.26

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Re: Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread Javier Marta
  Yo comencé a tener problemas con virtualbox no al cambiar la versión de
  éste, sino al instalar el kernel 2.6.30, por ello tuve que devolverme al
  2.6.26 que tenía anteriormente.  Estoy investigando si es un posible bug.
 
  Espero que mi comentario sea de utilidad
 
  Éxito.
 
  Juan Lavieri
 
 
 
  mmm, puede ser porque yo estoy usando 2.6.30 pero también
 me pasa con 2.6.29, voy a probar con 2.6.26
 
Yo la uso con el kernel 2.6.30 y no tengo problemas. Pero ojo, yo no uso el 
kernel que instala Debian, lo bajo desde kernel.org y lo compilo. Tampoco tuve 
problemas con el 2.6.29.
Saludos.

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Re: Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread Abilio Almeida Eiroa
El 24 de agosto de 2009 03:55, Javier Martauncualun...@gmail.com escribió:
  Yo comencé a tener problemas con virtualbox no al cambiar la versión de
  éste, sino al instalar el kernel 2.6.30, por ello tuve que devolverme al
  2.6.26 que tenía anteriormente.  Estoy investigando si es un posible bug.
 
  Espero que mi comentario sea de utilidad
 
  Éxito.
 
  Juan Lavieri
 
 
 
  mmm, puede ser porque yo estoy usando 2.6.30 pero también
 me pasa con 2.6.29, voy a probar con 2.6.26

 Yo la uso con el kernel 2.6.30 y no tengo problemas. Pero ojo, yo no uso el 
 kernel que instala Debian, lo bajo desde kernel.org y lo compilo. Tampoco 
 tuve problemas con el 2.6.29.
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2.6.30 y VB 3.0 sin problemas (con máquinas virtuales creadas con VB
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Instalar JDownloader en Debian Squeeze

2009-08-23 Thread tq

Buenas compañeros.

Alguien tiene instalado y funcionando correctamente el JDownloader?

Lo he bajado del home mediante un script que tira de wget pero al 
momento de ejecutarse pone todo por demas de lento y debo terminar 
cerrando la sesión gráfica (KDE 4.2).


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Re: Instalar JDownloader en Debian Squeeze

2009-08-23 Thread Javier Marta
El Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:39:10 -0300
tq tqlis...@gmail.com escribió:

 Buenas compañeros.
 
 Alguien tiene instalado y funcionando correctamente el JDownloader?
 
 Lo he bajado del home mediante un script que tira de wget pero al 
 momento de ejecutarse pone todo por demas de lento y debo terminar 
 cerrando la sesión gráfica (KDE 4.2).
 
 Desde ya muchas gracias a todos.-
 
 
Yo lo tengo instalado y funcionando perfectamente. Uso Debian testing con GNOME.


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Re: Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread Luis Lezcano Airaldi
El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 11:04 -0500, haldrik escribió:
 Hola, a alguien le ha sucedido que con las últimas versiones
 de virtualbox-sun a partir de la 3 les anda mas lento las máquinas
 virtuales que habían creado en versiones previas? obviamente
 habiendo actualizado los guest-additions. 

Yo tengo una máquina virtual XP que creé con una versión anterior de VB
y no lo noto más lento, pero no actualicé los guest-additions, estos los
tengo desde hace bastante más.
Tengo también un PC-BSD y no noto diferencia de velocidad/performance.
Tengo un kernel 2.6.29 que lo compilé hace unos meses y el vboxdrv que
compilé también desde las fuentes de Debian.

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Re: Nuevos Virtualbox mas lentos

2009-08-23 Thread Galileo Galilei
El lun, 24-08-2009 a las 00:28 -0300, Luis Lezcano Airaldi escribió:
 El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 11:04 -0500, haldrik escribió:
  Hola, a alguien le ha sucedido que con las últimas versiones
  de virtualbox-sun a partir de la 3 les anda mas lento las máquinas
  virtuales que habían creado en versiones previas? obviamente
  habiendo actualizado los guest-additions. 
Yo tengo Debian estable y purgé VirtualBox-Sun 3 porque me daba puros
dramas. Lo pretendía usar y se me ponía lerdo el sistema anfitrión,
después se me pegó Gnome. Eliminé VirtualBox Sun y mi Debian Estable
recuperó su semblante normal. En adelante si tengo que probar otro
sistema simplemente lo instalaré en una partición física. No quiero
saber de VirtualBox al menos en los próximos 200 años.


 
 Yo tengo una máquina virtual XP que creé con una versión anterior de VB
 y no lo noto más lento, pero no actualicé los guest-additions, estos los
 tengo desde hace bastante más.
 Tengo también un PC-BSD y no noto diferencia de velocidad/performance.
 Tengo un kernel 2.6.29 que lo compilé hace unos meses y el vboxdrv que
 compilé también desde las fuentes de Debian.
 
 Saludos.

 
 


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Fwd: Instalar JDownloader en Debian Squeeze

2009-08-23 Thread Andrés
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Date: 2009/8/24
Subject: Re: Instalar JDownloader en Debian Squeeze
To: Javier Marta uncualun...@gmail.com


a mi me anda al pelo en testing con GNOME, nunca lo levante en KDE

baje el para linux de aca: http://jdownloader.org/download
lo puse en /usr/local/ y lo mas bien

uso el jdk-sun

antes de correrlo hacete un java -jar jdupdate.jar que baja todas las
actualizaciones.

proba corriendolo en gnome por las dudas, o un kde 3.5

suerte, el programa lo vale!

2009/8/24 Javier Marta uncualun...@gmail.com

El Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:39:10 -0300
 tq tqlis...@gmail.com escribió:

  Buenas compañeros.
 
  Alguien tiene instalado y funcionando correctamente el JDownloader?
 
  Lo he bajado del home mediante un script que tira de wget pero al
  momento de ejecutarse pone todo por demas de lento y debo terminar
  cerrando la sesión gráfica (KDE 4.2).
 
  Desde ya muchas gracias a todos.-
 
 
 Yo lo tengo instalado y funcionando perfectamente. Uso Debian testing con
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Re: should debian FAQ suggest alpine as an alternative to pine?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Chris Burkhardt wrote:

 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
currently perusing the FAQ, section 5.10 asks, where is pine?
  since alpine is apparently available for debian, shouldn't that
  section at least mention that alternative?  i've used alpine as a
  drop-in replacement for pine on fedora for quite some time.

 Yes, I think that would be a good idea.

 is there a better place to make that suggestion?

 From FAQ Section 16.2 Feedback:

 Comments and additions to this document are always welcome. Please
 send e-mail to doc-deb...@packages.debian.org, ...

  done.

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Re: Problems booting installation CDs

2009-08-23 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 21:48 -0400 schrieb Isaac Freeman:
 [x-posted to debian-am...@lists.debian.org,
 debian-b...@lists.debian.org, debian-u...@lists.debian.org]
 
 All, sorry for the wide distribution, but I wasn't sure which list
 this belonged on; feel free to reply only to me, or to me and just one
 list. Also, I'm not subscribed, so please keep me in to to line.
 
 Whenever I boot the Debian testing installation CD (haven't tried
 stable) it hangs at:
 
 (process:766) INFO: kbd-mode: setting console mode to Unicode (UTF-8)
 
 The rest of the screen is black, and this text is a few lines from the
 bottom of the screen. Other Linux distros (Ubuntu, Knoppix) have
 problems booting too. The strange thing is, Windows boots just fine,
 and I get the same error booting Debian's CD in Virtualbox. 
 
 I am running:
 
 Mobo: Biostar TA770 A2+ SE
 

Add nopat to the boot options.
Known problem, see 

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538159

There's already a patch upstream, which will be hopefully included in
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should a normal* system have multiple library versions?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  as a followup to something i asked earlier, i was curious about
whether it was safe to clean older versions of packages off of a
system i'm currently upgrading.  (i inherited this system, so i don't
have a full history of how it got to be how it is.)

  more specifically about those packages with multiple versions, most
of them are, in fact, library packages.  working from memory, there
were quite a few lib packages that had two versions installed, a small
number with three or more.  is that normal?

  for comparison purposes, i'm looking at a fully-updated lenny system
right now, and i see not a single example of a lib package for which
multiple versions are installed, which is what i would expect.

  so i guess the question is, under *normal* circumstances, if one
sticks with nothing but the stable packages, and does nothing but
normal upgrades, is there *any* reason for a system to end up with
multiple versions of packages?  particularly library packages?  i
would have thought that, under normal processing, lib packages and
their reverse dependencies would stay in sync as one kept upgrading.

  are there curcumstances under which that would *not* be the case?
because my plan is to, for all of those older lib packages, use
apt-cache rdepends to see who cares about it and, if no one, purge
it.  i see no reason to hang onto useless packages, if they are in
fact useless.

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Re: should a normal* system have multiple library versions?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

   for comparison purposes, i'm looking at a fully-updated lenny
 system right now, and i see not a single example of a lib package
 for which multiple versions are installed, which is what i would
 expect.

  argh, i take it back -- i just noticed that this system has both
libdb4.5 and libdb4.6 but checking with apt-cache rdepends shows
quite a number of packages that still need 4.5, so i'm guessing that's
a special case.

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RE: should a normal* system have multiple library versions?

2009-08-23 Thread Kevin Ross
 From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:rpj...@crashcourse.ca] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:00 AM
 
 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 
for comparison purposes, i'm looking at a fully-updated lenny
  system right now, and i see not a single example of a lib package
  for which multiple versions are installed, which is what i would
  expect.
 
   argh, i take it back -- i just noticed that this system has both
 libdb4.5 and libdb4.6 but checking with apt-cache rdepends shows
 quite a number of packages that still need 4.5, so i'm guessing that's
 a special case.
 
 rday

You can run deborphan to show a list of libraries that nothing depends on,
and would be safe to remove.


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Re: should a normal* system have multiple library versions?

2009-08-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,23.Aug.09, 03:59:47, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 
for comparison purposes, i'm looking at a fully-updated lenny
  system right now, and i see not a single example of a lib package
  for which multiple versions are installed, which is what i would
  expect.
 
   argh, i take it back -- i just noticed that this system has both
 libdb4.5 and libdb4.6 but checking with apt-cache rdepends shows
 quite a number of packages that still need 4.5, so i'm guessing that's
 a special case.

Yes, it's similar as with the GCC, some programs still need the older 
version.

My suggestion would be to start aptitude in interactive mode and start 
marking packages as Automatically installed (Shift+m) which you think 
you don't need. Aptitude will then offer to remove those packages which 
have no rdepends.

I don't need to worry about marking Essential packages (the debian 
packages that have Essential: yes), aptitude will never remove them 
automatically.

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RE: should a normal* system have multiple library versions?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Kevin Ross wrote:

  From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:rpj...@crashcourse.ca]
  Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:00 AM
 
  On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 
 for comparison purposes, i'm looking at a fully-updated lenny
   system right now, and i see not a single example of a lib
   package for which multiple versions are installed, which is what
   i would expect.
 
argh, i take it back -- i just noticed that this system has both
  libdb4.5 and libdb4.6 but checking with apt-cache rdepends shows
  quite a number of packages that still need 4.5, so i'm guessing
  that's a special case.
 
  rday

 You can run deborphan to show a list of libraries that nothing
 depends on, and would be safe to remove.

  ah, that will be immensely useful, thanks.  on my amd64 lenny
system, running that gives me only libc6-i386.  curious.  since this
is a 64-bit install, and nothing installed appears to depend on that
32-bit library, is there a reason it was installed in the first place?

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Re: should a normal* system have multiple library versions?

2009-08-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,23.Aug.09, 11:43:37, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Sun,23.Aug.09, 03:59:47, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
  On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
  
 for comparison purposes, i'm looking at a fully-updated lenny
   system right now, and i see not a single example of a lib package
   for which multiple versions are installed, which is what i would
   expect.
  
argh, i take it back -- i just noticed that this system has both
  libdb4.5 and libdb4.6 but checking with apt-cache rdepends shows
  quite a number of packages that still need 4.5, so i'm guessing that's
  a special case.
 
 Yes, it's similar as with the GCC, some programs still need the older 
   
   packages

 version.
 
 My suggestion would be to start aptitude in interactive mode and start 
 marking packages as Automatically installed (Shift+m) which you think 
 you don't need. Aptitude will then offer to remove those packages which 
 have no rdepends.
 
 I don't need to worry about marking Essential packages (the debian 
^^^
You

 packages that have Essential: yes), aptitude will never remove them 
 automatically.

Sorry, it's been a long night ;)

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webcam is not always detected

2009-08-23 Thread belahcene

Hi,

I attached an usb web cam, sometimes it is detected an runs correctly , 
sometimes not??!! (I am running lenny 5 kernel 2.6.30  same problem with 
2.6.26)



For example now, cheese doesn't give the photo, while lspci and lsusb give


debian:/home/bela# lsusb
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia Sonix USB 2.0 Camera
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


debian:/home/bela# lspci


00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI 
Controller (rev 01)




Is there a possibility to force the detection ?

thanks for help

best regards

bela



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Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?

2009-08-23 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
   this should be an easy one:  on my current (etch) system, there are
 a number of packages that have more than one version installed.  for
 example (and from memory), there are at least three versions of gcc
 installed.  am i safe to remove/purge the older ones?
 
   perhaps a better question is, what is the command to list the
 packages that depend on a certain package?  in fedora, i'm used to
 running:
 
   $ rpm -q --whatrequires package
 

aptitude comes in handy here:

aptitude search '~i~D^package$'

Since aptitude uses regular expressions search package is enclosed by ^ and $
to distinguish, e.g., between gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-doc.

Also interesting may be

aptitude search '~i!~M(~R~i|~Rrecommends:~i)'

It will show any installed packages that aren't auto which are
dependencies or recommendations of other packages. In short, packages
that aren't marked auto but could (should?) be. Be aware though
that circular depends/recommends prevents all packages in that list to
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Re: problem compiling kernel

2009-08-23 Thread Bernard

Emanoil Kotsev wrote:


Bernard wrote:

 



Compiling md in the kernel is the right approach to boot from raided root
without initrd. You can try this just skipping (deleteing the line in grub
temporary)
 

I just tried that. Raid compiled into the kernel instead of modules. No 
initrd. Still crashes at boot.


Also done another test:
in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, replaced root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root by 
/dev/sda2. Still crashed : cannot open root device 'sda2' or unknown 
block(0,0).


There is another test that I would like to run, but I need help for 
this, since I don't know the whole package list:


apt-get purge kernel-building gcc make kernel-utils etc...

then edit my /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out lines that refer to 
package directories that are too recent, uncomment old lines referring 
to debian sarge packages only, excluding 'testing' etc..


then

apt-get install kernel-building gcc make kernel-utils etc...

and, from there on, trying to recompile, not newer kernels, but my good 
old running kernel 2.6.20-16-386 into a custom version without any sound 
options in it.


What I need is the list of all packages that I should purge and 
re-install in their former version.


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Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
this should be an easy one:  on my current (etch) system, there are
  a number of packages that have more than one version installed.  for
  example (and from memory), there are at least three versions of gcc
  installed.  am i safe to remove/purge the older ones?
 
perhaps a better question is, what is the command to list the
  packages that depend on a certain package?  in fedora, i'm used to
  running:
 
$ rpm -q --whatrequires package
 

 aptitude comes in handy here:

 aptitude search '~i~D^package$'

 Since aptitude uses regular expressions search package is enclosed
 by ^ and $ to distinguish, e.g., between gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-doc.

  i'm not sure what that's supposed to show me.  let me give you an
example from my running lenny system.  if i run:

  $ apt-cache rdepends acpid

i get a list that includes, among other things, two installed
packages -- acpi-support and acpi-support-base -- and a bunch of other
packages that *aren't* installed.

  what i want now is a way to list only the *installed* reverse deps
of acpid.  if i run (as you suggest):

  $ aptitude search '~i~D^acpid$'

i get null output.  what do you *think* i should see?

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Re: inode question

2009-08-23 Thread Eugene Apolinary


--- On Sun, 8/23/09, David Fox dfox94...@gmail.com wrote:

From: David Fox dfox94...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: inode question
To: Debian User Group debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 1:45 AM

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Eugene
Apolinaryeugeneapolinar...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Could that be possible to find the same inode, just because of there are two
 filesystems?

Yes, of course. Each fs is independent of the other, hence it is
possible to have two inode entries with the same number. Of course
they'd not point to the same file.

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Re: inode question

2009-08-23 Thread Eugene Apolinary
ok, thank you!!

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From: Eugene Apolinary eugeneapolinar...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: inode question
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 11:17 AM



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From: David Fox dfox94...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: inode question
To: Debian User Group debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 1:45 AM

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Eugene
Apolinaryeugeneapolinar...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Could that be possible to find the same inode, just because of there are two
 filesystems?

Yes, of course. Each fs is independent of the other, hence it is
possible to have two inode entries with the same number. Of course
they'd not point to
 the same file.

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Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

  Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 this should be an easy one:  on my current (etch) system, there are
   a number of packages that have more than one version installed.  for
   example (and from memory), there are at least three versions of gcc
   installed.  am i safe to remove/purge the older ones?
  
 perhaps a better question is, what is the command to list the
   packages that depend on a certain package?  in fedora, i'm used to
   running:
  
 $ rpm -q --whatrequires package
  
 
  aptitude comes in handy here:
 
  aptitude search '~i~D^package$'
 
  Since aptitude uses regular expressions search package is enclosed
  by ^ and $ to distinguish, e.g., between gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-doc.

   i'm not sure what that's supposed to show me.  let me give you an
 example from my running lenny system.  if i run:

   $ apt-cache rdepends acpid

 i get a list that includes, among other things, two installed
 packages -- acpi-support and acpi-support-base -- and a bunch of other
 packages that *aren't* installed.

   what i want now is a way to list only the *installed* reverse deps
 of acpid.  if i run (as you suggest):

   $ aptitude search '~i~D^acpid$'

 i get null output.  what do you *think* i should see?

  never mind, i just found the apt-rdepends package, with cool
options like --state-show=installed.  someone might have mentioned
that package earlier.  :-)

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Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?

2009-08-23 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
 
 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
   this should be an easy one:  on my current (etch) system, there are
 a number of packages that have more than one version installed.  for
 example (and from memory), there are at least three versions of gcc
 installed.  am i safe to remove/purge the older ones?

   perhaps a better question is, what is the command to list the
 packages that depend on a certain package?  in fedora, i'm used to
 running:

   $ rpm -q --whatrequires package

 aptitude comes in handy here:

 aptitude search '~i~D^package$'

 Since aptitude uses regular expressions search package is enclosed
 by ^ and $ to distinguish, e.g., between gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-doc.
 
   i'm not sure what that's supposed to show me.  let me give you an
 example from my running lenny system.  if i run:
 
   $ apt-cache rdepends acpid
 
 i get a list that includes, among other things, two installed
 packages -- acpi-support and acpi-support-base -- and a bunch of other
 packages that *aren't* installed.
 
   what i want now is a way to list only the *installed* reverse deps
 of acpid.  if i run (as you suggest):
 
   $ aptitude search '~i~D^acpid$'
 
 i get null output.  what do you *think* i should see?
 
 rday
snip
On my systems the output of

  $ aptitude search '~i~D^acpid$'

is

i   acpi-support-base   - scripts for handling base ACPI events such

since I have not installed package acpi-support.
By the way, in order to get the list of all packages which are not marked auto
and are not dependencies or recommendations of other packages issue

  $ aptitude search '~i!~M!(~R~i|~Rrecommends:~i)'
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Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

 On my systems the output of

   $ aptitude search '~i~D^acpid$'

 is

 i   acpi-support-base   - scripts for handling base ACPI events 
 such

  you're right, i had a typo.  sorry.  but now that i've found
apt-rdepends, i'm good.


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Re: problem compiling kernel

2009-08-23 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Bernard wrote:

 Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
 
Bernard wrote:

  


Compiling md in the kernel is the right approach to boot from raided root
without initrd. You can try this just skipping (deleteing the line in grub
temporary)
  

 I just tried that. Raid compiled into the kernel instead of modules. No
 initrd. Still crashes at boot.

most probably you are missing other modules (like ide/ata lvm etc)
You said your boot is on md but not on lvm. you can build a working initrd
easily - this is actually all you need.

 
 Also done another test:
 in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, replaced root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root by
 /dev/sda2. Still crashed : cannot open root device 'sda2' or unknown
 block(0,0).

this can not work as your root is on lvm. what did you expect?

try passing the kernel option init=/bin/sh

 
 There is another test that I would like to run, but I need help for
 this, since I don't know the whole package list:
 
 apt-get purge kernel-building gcc make kernel-utils etc...
 
 then edit my /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out lines that refer to
 package directories that are too recent, uncomment old lines referring
 to debian sarge packages only, excluding 'testing' etc..
 
 then
 
 apt-get install kernel-building gcc make kernel-utils etc...
 
 and, from there on, trying to recompile, not newer kernels, but my good
 old running kernel 2.6.20-16-386 into a custom version without any sound
 options in it.
 
 What I need is the list of all packages that I should purge and
 re-install in their former version.
 
 regards

You really could use the recent 2.6.30.4. There were different problems with
2.6.20 to 2.6.30. I find 2.6.30.4 the best I've had since 2.6.20.

I was also very sad when I found out I can not compile 2.6.20 anymore. Put
let's believe it's for the sake of the progress.

So, what I would do (if I were you) is that I would download latest
2.6.30.4, and compile all I need to access my boot partition (as you
already did with md in the kernel), then compile and rebuild or build by
hand initramfs.
Build by hand I pretty simple- it's actually hacking the one used. I do
unzip it
cd /tmp; mkdir test; cd test
zcat /boot/initrdgz | cpio -Hnewc -i
 then edit init to match my needs i.e. depmod, modprobe, cryptsetup etc
 and finally put a line to run the real init. I then zip it
find . ! -name *~ | cpio -H newc --create | gzip -9  ../test-initrd.gz
 I can install then the new initrd (cp ../test-initrd.gz /boot/initrdgz)

Once you've done it it's very simple and easy ... before it was a big
trouble for me too.

Just look positive as way to learn something new about your operating
system.

reagrds


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Re: -- SPAM -- webcam is not always detected

2009-08-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-23 03:58, belahcene wrote:

Hi,

I attached an usb web cam, sometimes it is detected an runs correctly , 
sometimes not??!! (I am running lenny 5 kernel 2.6.30  same problem with 
2.6.26)



For example now, cheese doesn't give the photo, while lspci and lsusb give


debian:/home/bela# lsusb
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia Sonix USB 2.0 Camera
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


debian:/home/bela# lspci


00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI 
Controller (rev 01)




Is there a possibility to force the detection ?


Is this during boot, or while the system is running?

What does dmesg indicate?

Does the webcam have it's own power supply, or does it pull from the 
USB cable?



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Re: Iceweasel 3.5

2009-08-23 Thread Tim Beauregard
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#using
 
 Doesn't document volatile.  Mentions security but doesn't really document it 
 fully, even through the links provided.  (In particular, I couldn't find 
 what to add you my source.list for volatile or security.)
 
 Yes, I know I can edit it, but I don't have time just now.

All in good time I'm sure.  These FAQs are an excellent resource.  As is
the list archive!
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RE: Failure of X in squeeze.

2009-08-23 Thread Peter Crawford

 From: jdkay...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Failure of X in squeeze.
 Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:41:58 +0200
 Is this some sort of spam? I don't see a question anywhere.

Yes; unintentional spam.  One more try.
Since earlier in August, X has failed in Squeeze running 
on an IBM NetVista.  Nothing relevant has turned up 
in http://wiki.x.org/ nor in /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg.
 
These are the last two lines in Xorg.0.log.
(WW) intel(0): xf86UnMapVidMem: cannot find region for [0xb36fd000,0x300]
FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc refcount is 2, should be 1; 
fixing.
 
Any ideas?  Thanks,   ... p. crawford
 

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motherboad for desktop

2009-08-23 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi:
My old K7S5A (SiS735 chipset) Athlon i386 lenny desktop has died and I
am wondering how to set up a new one for the same service (running
32bit graphic scientific programs, besides office use, and
establishing scp connection with my amd64 computing machines).
Absolutely no need of multicore, rather, a single fast processor would
be of use for scientific purposes as parallelized codes are rare
stuff. I thought to by a second hand single-processor motherboard but
it might result as a bad jump into the past. Also, I have a couple of
unused 150GB Raptor WD HDs that could only be used if nthe motherboard
has SATA connections (better two, so as to set up a RAID1).

Any suggestion on which motherboard (or motherboard type if you prefer
to be uncommittal about brand) would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

francesco pietra


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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-08-23 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:21:27 +0200, go...@dobosevic.com in 
gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:

 So, I think the best solution is to ask developers to upload
 swfdec-mozilla to debian-volatile and to support it there too.
 
 What do you guys think?
 
 
 I'm think you are right. This days most of end user's can't live without 
 this things (messenger, flash etc.)and they very often change.

Web browsers to. ;-)


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Re: [OT] Online downloadable books

2009-08-23 Thread Micha

On 8/22/2009 8:12 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

From:

  http://www.4shared.com

I downloaded a book I was looking for: Takeuti-Zaring's Introduction to
Axiomatic Set Theory.

It comes in .djvu format.  I'd be curious to know how it was formatted that
way: certainly not by scanning it page to page.

I think in future more and more books will be available on line, and many
already are; but the problem is with old editions: either scanning them page
after page, either re-write them from scratch.

Another book I was looking for: Quine's Set Theory and Its Logic, was not
anywhere in internet.  Can anyone suggest a place where it's downloadable?

Rodolfo




You are talking about illegal copies of the books, I don't think that this is 
the right list for that.


Some books are also available as ebooks, you can check amazon if they sell the 
books you want as ebooks. They are usually in pdf form quite often with drm.


I've never ran into a book legal distributes as djvu


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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-23 Thread Rob Gom
Hi all,
could anyone explain to me why fetchmail is needed in the first place?
From user's point of view it is something additional. Instead of
configuring mail setup in single place (MUA, mail program), one has to
set it up both in MUA (retrieve mail from local mail box) and
fetchmail configuration file. The latter (IMHO) has very limited
functionality of password encryption handling, no gui integration - it
is needed to launch text editor to edit specific file...
Does this setup have any advantages? It is counterintuitive and non
ergonomic, isn't it?
Are there any mail programs which allow seamless integration with
fetchmail/getmail?

Regards,
Robert


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RE: motherboad for desktop

2009-08-23 Thread Kevin Ross
 From: Francesco Pietra [mailto:chiendar...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:02 AM
 
 Hi:
 My old K7S5A (SiS735 chipset) Athlon i386 lenny desktop has died and I
 am wondering how to set up a new one for the same service (running
 32bit graphic scientific programs, besides office use, and
 establishing scp connection with my amd64 computing machines).
 Absolutely no need of multicore, rather, a single fast processor would
 be of use for scientific purposes as parallelized codes are rare
 stuff. I thought to by a second hand single-processor motherboard but
 it might result as a bad jump into the past. Also, I have a couple of
 unused 150GB Raptor WD HDs that could only be used if nthe motherboard
 has SATA connections (better two, so as to set up a RAID1).
 
 Any suggestion on which motherboard (or motherboard type if you prefer
 to be uncommittal about brand) would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
 francesco pietra

If you want a fast, single-core processor, the Pentium 4 3.8 GHz can be
found on eBay.  It uses a LGA775 socket, so the motherboard can be upgraded
to a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad (but not Core i7) in the future, if the
programs you run ever get upgraded to take advantage of multiple cores, or
if you want to run multiple sing-threaded programs concurrently.

Once you decide on the socket type (in this case LGA775), then it just comes
down to what other features you want on a motherboard, and buying one from
one of the major brands (Asus, Gigabyte, etc) that matches your feature list
and budget.

Any LGA775 board you buy will have multiple SATA connectors on it.  They
usually have fake RAID, but I don't recommend you use it.  Instead, use
Linux software RAID.


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Re: motherboad for desktop

2009-08-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-23 11:01, Francesco Pietra wrote:

Hi:
My old K7S5A (SiS735 chipset) Athlon i386 lenny desktop has died and I
am wondering how to set up a new one for the same service (running
32bit graphic scientific programs, besides office use, and
establishing scp connection with my amd64 computing machines).
Absolutely no need of multicore, rather, a single fast processor would
be of use for scientific purposes as parallelized codes are rare
stuff. I thought to by a second hand single-processor motherboard but
it might result as a bad jump into the past. Also, I have a couple of
unused 150GB Raptor WD HDs that could only be used if nthe motherboard
has SATA connections (better two, so as to set up a RAID1).

Any suggestion on which motherboard (or motherboard type if you prefer
to be uncommittal about brand) would be greatly appreciated.


If I wanted the fastest-available single-core CPU, I'd look for 
these on Ebay:

Pentium D 900 at 3.4 GHz
Pentium 4 6X1 at 3.8 GHz

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/quickreffam.htm

Then I'd tailor my mobo purchase (again from Ebay), around that.

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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-23 Thread Scott Gifford
Rob Gom rgom.deb...@gmail.com writes:

[...]

 Are there any mail programs which allow seamless integration with
 fetchmail/getmail?

If by that you mean allow you to get your mail via POP or IMAP without
editing any configuration files, sure, all of the GUI mail clients do
this: Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution, etc.

-Scott.


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Fwd: S.O.S abrigo sem ração

2009-08-23 Thread Sonia Aparecida De Oliveira Condutta



 Forwarded message --
 From: Andréa Ribeiro dengosa.bendi.tig...@gmail.com
 Date: 2009/8/19
 Subject: Fwd: SOS - A SITUAÇÃO APERTOU DE NOVO!
 To:
 
 
 REPASSANDO
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: CLUBE DOS VIRA-LATAS PRODUTOS clubedosviralatas.rib.pi...@gmail.com
 Date: 19/08/2009 18:24
 Subject: SOS - A SITUAÇÃO APERTOU DE NOVO!
 To:
 
 Amigos,
 
 Apesar dos esforços que estamos fazendo para diminuir o
 número de
 animais, incrementando as doações, no intuito de assim
 diminuir também
 nossas despesas, parece que as ajudas e apadrinhamentos
 caem também na
 mesma proporção.
 
 Assim, continuamos no sufoco. Ontem mais um cheque de
 ração voltou (R$
 2.626,90). Cada vez que conseguimos cobrir um, cai outro,
 pois nossa
 compra de ração é quinzenal. Além disso nossos
 funcionários também são
 pagos quinzenalmente e amanhã é dia de pagá-los (R$
 1.530,00) e não
 temos sequer um quarto do valor.
 
 Então, só podemos mais uma vez recorrer aos nossos amigos
 e
 colaboradores para que nos auxiliem a passar por mais esse
 percalço.
 
 Para quem puder nos ajudar nossa conta é:
 
 BANCO BRADESCO
 AG. 0557
 C/C 73.760-7
 Titular: CLUBE DOS VIRA-LATAS - Grupo de Prot.aos Animais
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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-23 14:09, Rob Gom wrote:

Hi all,
could anyone explain to me why fetchmail is needed in the first place?


Now *this* is an excellent flame!


From user's point of view it is something additional. Instead of
configuring mail setup in single place (MUA, mail program), one has to
set it up both in MUA (retrieve mail from local mail box) and
fetchmail configuration file.


It's not that difficult.  Really.


   The latter (IMHO) has very limited
functionality of password encryption handling,


Sure it doess, with POPS.


no gui integration


Boo fscking hoo.


   - it
is needed to launch text editor to edit specific file...


Again, boo fscking hoo.


Does this setup have any advantages?


Yes, it does, since it fetches your mail *for you* from your ISP's 
POP server, and can send it to an MTA, which passes it thru 
SpamAssassin and then an MDA, which then filters your email into 
separate folders depending on topic or sender.


Another benefit: for the longest time, ISPs had very small mailbox 
sizes, and some still do.  fetchmail/getmail running in daemon mode 
or through cron every X minutes will keep your ISP mailbox 
relatively empty, even if you go away on vacation.



 It is counterintuitive


Remember, *ix is both a desktop and serve at the same time.  Thus, 
break out of your Windows Mentality.



and non
ergonomic, isn't it?


Ergonomics has nothing to with fetchmail.

Unless automatically fetching mail so that you don't have to is 
considered ergonomic.



Are there any mail programs which allow seamless integration with
fetchmail/getmail?


All MTAs and MDAs, and Maildir, seamlessly integrate with fetchmail.

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Re: motherboad for desktop

2009-08-23 Thread Justin The Cynical

Francesco Pietra wrote:

Hi:
My old K7S5A (SiS735 chipset) Athlon i386 lenny desktop has died and I
am wondering how to set up a new one for the same service (running
32bit graphic scientific programs, besides office use, and
establishing scp connection with my amd64 computing machines).


That machine has been around for a while, yes?

Looking at the specs and a review that mentions that they would have 
liked to see the AMR slot removed in favour of another PCI or perhaps 
even an ISA, I'm going to guess this isn't what one would call an 
insanely fast machine.  :-)




Absolutely no need of multicore, rather, a single fast processor would
be of use for scientific purposes as parallelized codes are rare
stuff. I thought to by a second hand single-processor motherboard but
it might result as a bad jump into the past. Also, I have a couple of
unused 150GB Raptor WD HDs that could only be used if nthe motherboard
has SATA connections (better two, so as to set up a RAID1).

Any suggestion on which motherboard (or motherboard type if you prefer
to be uncommittal about brand) would be greatly appreciated.



Motherboard manufactures all have good and bad designs and runs, so 
recommending a brand isn't such a good approach IMO.


Anyway, (and I'm sure that you probably already know this) virtually any 
board easily available today is going to make use of DDR2 memory, will 
have SATA ports (usually 4, but I've seen some very low end ones that 
only had a pair), and may require a 24-pin power supply (some will still 
run with 20 pin or you might be able to get away with a 20 to 24 pin 
adapter).


Another thing to consider is PCI slots.  I do not know how your old 
system is set up, but that board has five PCI slots.  That many PCI 
slots is becoming hard to find on current motherboards with the average 
being three, perhaps four, sometimes as low as a single slot.


Myself, if I had a system similar to what you listed at the beginning, 
I'd find one of those low-end cpu/motherboard combo deals that show up 
at Fry's or newegg every so often.  These usually consist of a Core2 
based Celeron and an ECS (sometimes biostar) board.  In my experience, 
the Core2-based Celerons running at around 2 Ghz (or less) are every bit 
as capable as a P4 3 GHz, but use considerably less power and generate a 
heck of a lot less heat.


If I needed a bit more CPU grunt, I'd get a CPU that is built on the 
Core2 platform that isn't a Celeron.  IMO, there isn't much point in not 
getting a multi-core CPU.  Looking at Newegg for example, a 1.8 Celeron 
single core and a 2.2 Celeron dual core has a price difference of 10 US 
dollars, and just about any CPU commonly available is going to have 
64-bit capabilities, not that you have to us them.


Ultimately it depends on what your budget is, what is available in your 
area, and how much you want the newer board to do.  But unless you are 
going to look at a machine that is about the same vintage as the old 
system, you are going to have to pick up more than just a new board.



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Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive. [SOLVED]

2009-08-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:16:15 -0400, Mark wrote in message 
200908222116.15752.m...@neidorff.com:

 On Saturday 22 August 2009 08:47 pm, Kelly Clowers wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 09:09, Florian Kulzer
 
 [[[snip]]]
 
 Thank everyone for the advice.  I now know what to do to solve the
 problem.

..tell us, your solution may help somebody else here.
Me, I just wiped my stick clean and used cfdisk to set 
up new partitions. ;o)

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Mount ISO filesystem: no translation, no file version?

2009-08-23 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi,

[Cc's appreciated as I don't subscribe to the list]

By default, mounting an ISO filesystem will translate filenames,
e.g. translating THIS.DAT to this.dat.  I need to turn off this
translation.

The manpage describes the option map=off which indeed turns off the
lowercasing.  However, the filenames now include the file version
information, leading to a filename such as THIS.DAT.;1.

What I need is to have exactly the filename one sees on a windows
machine, namely: THIS.DAT.  I can't work out which options will
achieve this.  Can someone point me in the right direction?

Details: running debian/sid, kernel 2.6.30, mount command
from util-linux 2.16-3.

Thanks,
-Steve


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Re: [OT] Online downloadable books

2009-08-23 Thread owens



 Original Message 
From: mi...@post.tau.ac.il
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Online downloadable books
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:26:42 +0300

On 8/22/2009 8:12 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 From:

   http://www.4shared.com

 I downloaded a book I was looking for: Takeuti-Zaring's
Introduction to
 Axiomatic Set Theory.

 It comes in .djvu format.  I'd be curious to know how it was
formatted that
 way: certainly not by scanning it page to page.

 I think in future more and more books will be available on line,
and many
 already are; but the problem is with old editions: either scanning
them page
 after page, either re-write them from scratch.

 Another book I was looking for: Quine's Set Theory and Its Logic,
was not
 anywhere in internet.  Can anyone suggest a place where it's
downloadable?

 Rodolfo



You are talking about illegal copies of the books, I don't think
that this is 
the right list for that.

Some books are also available as ebooks, you can check amazon if
they sell the 
books you want as ebooks. They are usually in pdf form quite often
with drm.

I've never ran into a book legal distributes as djvu

The format is described on djvu.org.  there's also a GPLed version of
the library.
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Re: How could I change the limit of defined keyboard variants ?

2009-08-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:40:44 +0200
Sever P A gnu.se...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello guys,
 
 gnome-keyboard-properties allows to define up to 4 keyboard variants...
 
 My question is:
 
 Is it possible to change this limit ?

I believe that this is a hard-coded limit of X itself, not Gnome:

You can use multi-layouts xkb configuration. What does it mean?
Basically it allows to load up to four different keyboard layouts at a
time. Each such layout would reside in its own group. The groups
(unlike complete keyboard remapping) can be switched very fast from one
to another by a combination of keys.

http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.0/doc/html/XKB-Config2.html#2

This is old, but AFAIK, still current.

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Re: Mount ISO filesystem: no translation, no file version?

2009-08-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-23 17:46, Steve M. Robbins wrote:

Hi,

[Cc's appreciated as I don't subscribe to the list]

By default, mounting an ISO filesystem will translate filenames,
e.g. translating THIS.DAT to this.dat.  I need to turn off this
translation.

The manpage describes the option map=off which indeed turns off the
lowercasing.  However, the filenames now include the file version
information, leading to a filename such as THIS.DAT.;1.


That looks like a CD created by OpenVMS...


What I need is to have exactly the filename one sees on a windows
machine, namely: THIS.DAT.  I can't work out which options will
achieve this.  Can someone point me in the right direction?

Details: running debian/sid, kernel 2.6.30, mount command
from util-linux 2.16-3.


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Re: Mount ISO filesystem: no translation, no file version?

2009-08-23 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 07:19:57PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 2009-08-23 17:46, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 Hi,
 
 [Cc's appreciated as I don't subscribe to the list]
 
 By default, mounting an ISO filesystem will translate filenames,
 e.g. translating THIS.DAT to this.dat.  I need to turn off this
 translation.
 
 The manpage describes the option map=off which indeed turns off the
 lowercasing.  However, the filenames now include the file version
 information, leading to a filename such as THIS.DAT.;1.
 
 That looks like a CD created by OpenVMS...

No, it wasn't.  File version is an integral feature of ISO 9660;
c.f. http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-119.htm
section 7.5.1.

Regards,
-Steve


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How to play iso dvd without kde?

2009-08-23 Thread Juan Lavieri

Hi everybody.

I'm trying to play an iso dvd in my box.

If I do with kaffeine or Dragon player it works fine but If I try to do 
with totem it fails. The fact is that I want to do it on my laptop and I 
don't want any kde library in that system.


I search in google and many people says they do this job with totem, but 
I've been trying and never works, neither on my laptop nor my desktop.  
Maybe I need a totem plugin or so.


Please, do you have any idea of what to do?

Regards

Juan Lavieri


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Re: How to play iso dvd without kde?

2009-08-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-23 20:54, Juan Lavieri wrote:

Hi everybody.

I'm trying to play an iso dvd in my box.

If I do with kaffeine or Dragon player it works fine but If I try to do 
with totem it fails. The fact is that I want to do it on my laptop and I 
don't want any kde library in that system.


I search in google and many people says they do this job with totem, but 
I've been trying and never works, neither on my laptop nor my desktop.  
Maybe I need a totem plugin or so.


Please, do you have any idea of what to do?


vlc

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Re: motherboad for desktop

2009-08-23 Thread Charles Kroeger
 virtually any  board easily available today is going to make use of DDR2 
 memory

What about DDR3 memory, is that preferable?

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Re: How to play iso dvd without kde?

2009-08-23 Thread Juan Lavieri

Ron Johnson escribió:

On 2009-08-23 20:54, Juan Lavieri wrote:

Hi everybody.

I'm trying to play an iso dvd in my box.

If I do with kaffeine or Dragon player it works fine but If I try to 
do with totem it fails. The fact is that I want to do it on my laptop 
and I don't want any kde library in that system.


I search in google and many people says they do this job with totem, 
but I've been trying and never works, neither on my laptop nor my 
desktop.  Maybe I need a totem plugin or so.


Please, do you have any idea of what to do?


vlc


it works.

Thank you Ron.

Best Regards

Juan Lavieri


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Re: [OT] Online downloadable books

2009-08-23 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:26:42 +0300
Micha mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:

...

 You are talking about illegal copies of the books, I don't think that this is 
 the right list for that.
 
 Some books are also available as ebooks, you can check amazon if they sell 
 the 
 books you want as ebooks. They are usually in pdf form quite often with drm.
 
 I've never ran into a book legal distributes as djvu

And you an Israeli, too (or at least posting from an Israeli email
address and with an Israeli name) ;)  Jnul makes hundreds of books
freely available online in djvu format:

http://www.jnul.huji.ac.il/heb/digibook.html

Perhaps you meant that modern, copyrighted books are not generally
legally available in djvu format.

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