Re: installer un paquet tar.gz
- Mail d'origine - De: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Envoyé: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 00:05:57 +0100 (CET) Objet: Re: installer un paquet tar.gz Le Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 05:23:24PM +0100, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit : le paquet contenant libre office french est un tar.gz qui contient l'archive des paquets deb en français Bonjour, LibreOffice est aussi disponible dans la section expérimentale de Debian: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/libreoffice Amicalement, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japon bonjour, merci pour la réponse, malheureusement, il n'y a que des paquets de base ... ce que souhaitait faire était un script permettant de télécharger le tar.gz contenant les paquets (deb) francisés justification : http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libr/libreoffice/ deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/libreoffice / les paquets tar.gz contenant les paquets deb pour les langues souhaitées : http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/tdf/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc1/deb/x86/ et si je comprend bien il suffit de patienter pour avoir la soupe cuite à point slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1935085794.985921291972151431.javamail.r...@zimbra28-e5.priv.proxad.net
Re: installer un paquet tar.gz
# wget http://monurl/truc.tar.gz tar -xzvf truc.tar.gz dpkg -i *.deb Le 10 décembre 2010 10:09, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit : - Mail d'origine - De: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Envoyé: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 00:05:57 +0100 (CET) Objet: Re: installer un paquet tar.gz Le Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 05:23:24PM +0100, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit : le paquet contenant libre office french est un tar.gz qui contient l'archive des paquets deb en français Bonjour, LibreOffice est aussi disponible dans la section expérimentale de Debian: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/libreoffice Amicalement, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japon bonjour, merci pour la réponse, malheureusement, il n'y a que des paquets de base ... ce que souhaitait faire était un script permettant de télécharger le tar.gz contenant les paquets (deb) francisés justification : http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libr/libreoffice/ deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/libreoffice / les paquets tar.gz contenant les paquets deb pour les langues souhaitées : http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/tdf/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc1/deb/x86/ et si je comprend bien il suffit de patienter pour avoir la soupe cuite à point slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1935085794.985921291972151431.javamail.r...@zimbra28-e5.priv.proxad.net -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikq=z52wfykwdhdi4fbjkn3nmynzvdcxpkca...@mail.gmail.com
Lenny sur un Dell Poweredge 2950 avec PERC 5/i RAID et Broadcom NetXtreme II
Bonjour. Sur un serveur Dell Poweredge 2950 avec PERC 5/i RAID, j'ai installé Debian Lenny 5.0.7 64 bits. J'ai eu des soucis car le driver de la carte ethernet Broadcom NetXtreme II n'étant pas free, il n'est pas inclus dans l'iso d'installation. Si je l'installais lorsque l'installeur le demandait, ca redémarrait avec un fsck à faire qui était voué à l'échec (ca n'aboutissait à rien). Finalement, j'ai téléchargé les 5 DVDs et j'ai fait l'installation en ignorant l'installation du driver ethernet. Seulement, maintenant, j'aimerais installer le driver de la carte Broadcom NetXtreme II. J'ai fait un apt-get install bnx2x-e1-4.8.53.0.fw.deb mais ca ne donne rien. La carte (du moins le module, si il y en a un) n'est pas chargée au démarrage. Quelqu'un aurait une idée du comment installer le driver/module de la carte reseau? Là, je suis un peu largué... Désolé si la question fait newbie... -- Olivier Pavilla 仕事を探しています。求職中です。 S.C.I.R.C. Orléans (Bourgogne) - I.U.F.M. Centre-Val de Loire 72 Rue du Faubourg Bourgogne -45044 ORLEANS Cedex 1 Tel : 02-38-49-26-20 , mailto:olivier.pavi...@univ-orleans.fr http://blog.linux-squad.com - 僕の傑作です。 http://gallery.linux-squad.com - 僕の傑作です。 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101210211326.o45undf5cs4wc...@webmailper.univ-orleans.fr
problèmes avec mysql
Bonjour à tous, Etant très novice en mysql, il y a certaines choses de base que je pensais avoir maîtrisées, et qui me déroutent aujourd'hui. J'ai d'abord installé MySQL (+PHP) sur mon Desktop sous Lenny, et y ai construit plusieurs bases, que je gérais, soit en MySQL, soit avec PHP (sur mon serveur apache local), soit avec OpenOffice.org-base. Puis j'ai dû faire un double sur mon portable sous Ubuntu 8.04 : installation de Apache, MySQL et PHP, puis installation des mêmes bases d'après un dump fait depuis le Desktop. Enfin, un peu plus tard, j'ai refait une troisième copie, sur l'ordi de mon association, sous Lenny, de la même façon que sur mon portable. Aujourd'hui j'observe des différences de comportement entre les trois installations, pour les mêmes opérations sur les mêmes bases. Sur ma première installation (mon Desktop), sous mysql en mode superuser, je peux attribuer des privilèges à des users locaux, ce qui me permet ensuite de me connecter en mode user sur les bases autorisées. Mais, sur mon portable ainsi que sur l'ordi de mon assoc, GRANT ALL TO xyz IDENTIFIED BY 'motdepasse'; fonctionne aussi, çà me répond bien QUERY OK, mais ensuite je ne peux pas y accéder par $mysql -u xyz -pmotdepasse (Access denied) ! Et pourtant, sur ces mêmes ordis, je puis accéder, par cette même dernière commande, à celles des bases dont les privilèges avaient été précédemment accordées via mon Desktop, restaurées d'après le dump ! C'est vraiment la bouteille à l'encre... d'autant que je m'aperçois que ce n'est pas si simple que cela, car il y a des cas où, même avec mon Desktop, des privilèges ainsi accordés ne m'ont pas permis l'accès ultérieur. Disons que sur mon Desktop l'accord de privilèges à un user fonctionne la plupart du temps, alors que sur les deux autres installations je n'ai encore jamais réussi à le faire marcher. Est-ce à dire que certaines fonctionalités sont de versions différentes sur chacun des ordis ? Ou encore, si des privilèges de user ont déjà été accordés sur une base donnée, est-ce que cela empèche de redonner ensuite le même privilège à un autre user pour la même base ? Pour ce qui concerne la connexion auxdites bases par OO.org-base via JDBC, les différences d'un ordi à l'autre sont encore plus déroutantes : sur mon Desktop, les connexions fonctionnent sans problèmes avec les users et mot de passes que j'ai donnés ; sur mon portable sous Ubuntu, les connexions ne fonctionnent qu'avec les bases qui étaient déjà attribuées auxdite users avant le restore, mais je ne puis faire de nouvelles connexions ; sur l'ordi de mon assoc je n'obtiens aucune connexion (il faudra que je vérifie à mon prochain déplacement si tous les pilotes Java sont présents) Merci d'avance pour les lumières que vous pourrez m'apporter. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d028d27.3090...@teaser.fr
Re: problèmes avec mysql
Bonjour, Selon la configuration, il faut faire flush privilèges; pour prendre en compte les paramètres. Cordialement, Andreas On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bernard wrote: Bonjour à tous, Etant très novice en mysql, il y a certaines choses de base que je pensais avoir maîtrisées, et qui me déroutent aujourd'hui. J'ai d'abord installé MySQL (+PHP) sur mon Desktop sous Lenny, et y ai construit plusieurs bases, que je gérais, soit en MySQL, soit avec PHP (sur mon serveur apache local), soit avec OpenOffice.org-base. Puis j'ai dû faire un double sur mon portable sous Ubuntu 8.04 : installation de Apache, MySQL et PHP, puis installation des mêmes bases d'après un dump fait depuis le Desktop. Enfin, un peu plus tard, j'ai refait une troisième copie, sur l'ordi de mon association, sous Lenny, de la même façon que sur mon portable. Aujourd'hui j'observe des différences de comportement entre les trois installations, pour les mêmes opérations sur les mêmes bases. Sur ma première installation (mon Desktop), sous mysql en mode superuser, je peux attribuer des privilèges à des users locaux, ce qui me permet ensuite de me connecter en mode user sur les bases autorisées. Mais, sur mon portable ainsi que sur l'ordi de mon assoc, GRANT ALL TO xyz IDENTIFIED BY 'motdepasse'; fonctionne aussi, çà me répond bien QUERY OK, mais ensuite je ne peux pas y accéder par $mysql -u xyz -pmotdepasse (Access denied) ! Et pourtant, sur ces mêmes ordis, je puis accéder, par cette même dernière commande, à celles des bases dont les privilèges avaient été précédemment accordées via mon Desktop, restaurées d'après le dump ! C'est vraiment la bouteille à l'encre... d'autant que je m'aperçois que ce n'est pas si simple que cela, car il y a des cas où, même avec mon Desktop, des privilèges ainsi accordés ne m'ont pas permis l'accès ultérieur. Disons que sur mon Desktop l'accord de privilèges à un user fonctionne la plupart du temps, alors que sur les deux autres installations je n'ai encore jamais réussi à le faire marcher. Est-ce à dire que certaines fonctionalités sont de versions différentes sur chacun des ordis ? Ou encore, si des privilèges de user ont déjà été accordés sur une base donnée, est-ce que cela empèche de redonner ensuite le même privilège à un autre user pour la même base ? Pour ce qui concerne la connexion auxdites bases par OO.org-base via JDBC, les différences d'un ordi à l'autre sont encore plus déroutantes : sur mon Desktop, les connexions fonctionnent sans problèmes avec les users et mot de passes que j'ai donnés ; sur mon portable sous Ubuntu, les connexions ne fonctionnent qu'avec les bases qui étaient déjà attribuées auxdite users avant le restore, mais je ne puis faire de nouvelles connexions ; sur l'ordi de mon assoc je n'obtiens aucune connexion (il faudra que je vérifie à mon prochain déplacement si tous les pilotes Java sont présents) Merci d'avance pour les lumières que vous pourrez m'apporter. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d028d27.3090...@teaser.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a3ae819a-f006-4cd7-8358-99fb7f275...@free.fr
Re: problèmes avec mysql
flush privileges sans accent évidemment... Foutus réflexes... Cordialement, Andreas On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Ebling Andreas wrote: Bonjour, Selon la configuration, il faut faire flush privilèges; pour prendre en compte les paramètres. Cordialement, Andreas On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bernard wrote: Bonjour à tous, Etant très novice en mysql, il y a certaines choses de base que je pensais avoir maîtrisées, et qui me déroutent aujourd'hui. J'ai d'abord installé MySQL (+PHP) sur mon Desktop sous Lenny, et y ai construit plusieurs bases, que je gérais, soit en MySQL, soit avec PHP (sur mon serveur apache local), soit avec OpenOffice.org-base. Puis j'ai dû faire un double sur mon portable sous Ubuntu 8.04 : installation de Apache, MySQL et PHP, puis installation des mêmes bases d'après un dump fait depuis le Desktop. Enfin, un peu plus tard, j'ai refait une troisième copie, sur l'ordi de mon association, sous Lenny, de la même façon que sur mon portable. Aujourd'hui j'observe des différences de comportement entre les trois installations, pour les mêmes opérations sur les mêmes bases. Sur ma première installation (mon Desktop), sous mysql en mode superuser, je peux attribuer des privilèges à des users locaux, ce qui me permet ensuite de me connecter en mode user sur les bases autorisées. Mais, sur mon portable ainsi que sur l'ordi de mon assoc, GRANT ALL TO xyz IDENTIFIED BY 'motdepasse'; fonctionne aussi, çà me répond bien QUERY OK, mais ensuite je ne peux pas y accéder par $mysql -u xyz -pmotdepasse (Access denied) ! Et pourtant, sur ces mêmes ordis, je puis accéder, par cette même dernière commande, à celles des bases dont les privilèges avaient été précédemment accordées via mon Desktop, restaurées d'après le dump ! C'est vraiment la bouteille à l'encre... d'autant que je m'aperçois que ce n'est pas si simple que cela, car il y a des cas où, même avec mon Desktop, des privilèges ainsi accordés ne m'ont pas permis l'accès ultérieur. Disons que sur mon Desktop l'accord de privilèges à un user fonctionne la plupart du temps, alors que sur les deux autres installations je n'ai encore jamais réussi à le faire marcher. Est-ce à dire que certaines fonctionalités sont de versions différentes sur chacun des ordis ? Ou encore, si des privilèges de user ont déjà été accordés sur une base donnée, est-ce que cela empèche de redonner ensuite le même privilège à un autre user pour la même base ? Pour ce qui concerne la connexion auxdites bases par OO.org-base via JDBC, les différences d'un ordi à l'autre sont encore plus déroutantes : sur mon Desktop, les connexions fonctionnent sans problèmes avec les users et mot de passes que j'ai donnés ; sur mon portable sous Ubuntu, les connexions ne fonctionnent qu'avec les bases qui étaient déjà attribuées auxdite users avant le restore, mais je ne puis faire de nouvelles connexions ; sur l'ordi de mon assoc je n'obtiens aucune connexion (il faudra que je vérifie à mon prochain déplacement si tous les pilotes Java sont présents) Merci d'avance pour les lumières que vous pourrez m'apporter. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d028d27.3090...@teaser.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a3ae819a-f006-4cd7-8358-99fb7f275...@free.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3c80edce-b8a3-4e53-a196-fc3f1aa4d...@free.fr
Re: Lenny sur un Dell Poweredge 2950 avec PERC 5/i RAID et Broadcom NetXtreme II
On 10/12/2010 21:13, Olivier Pavilla wrote: Bonjour. Bonsoir, Sur un serveur Dell Poweredge 2950 avec PERC 5/i RAID, j'ai installé Debian Lenny 5.0.7 64 bits. J'ai eu des soucis car le driver de la carte ethernet Broadcom NetXtreme II n'étant pas free, il n'est pas inclus dans l'iso d'installation. Le driver est libre, le firmware non Si je l'installais lorsque l'installeur le demandait, ca redémarrait avec un fsck à faire qui était voué à l'échec (ca n'aboutissait à rien). Donc plantage ? C'était la bonne version du firmware (lenny = noyau 2.6.26) ? Finalement, j'ai téléchargé les 5 DVDs et j'ai fait l'installation en ignorant l'installation du driver ethernet. Seulement, maintenant, j'aimerais installer le driver de la carte Broadcom NetXtreme II. J'ai fait un apt-get install bnx2x-e1-4.8.53.0.fw.deb mais ca ne donne rien. C'est pas le nom du paquet ça, c'est (presque) le nom du fichier contenu dedans. Normal que ça ne fasse rien ... La carte (du moins le module, si il y en a un) n'est pas chargée au démarrage. Quelqu'un aurait une idée du comment installer le driver/module de la carte reseau? Là, je suis un peu largué... Désolé si la question fait newbie... $ apt-cache search netxtreme firmware-bnx2 - Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII firmware-bnx2x - Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtreme II 10Gb donc : # aptitude install firmware-bnx2 (une fois le dépot non-free activé, bien sûr ...) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/idu6tv$pc...@dough.gmane.org
Re: problèmes avec mysql
Merci pour cette réponse. J'ai essayé FLUSH PRIVILEGES; QUERY OK . mais au final çà n'a rien changé. Depuis lors, j'ai un peu bidouillé, et je pense avoir trouvé la voie. Cà fonctionne désormais sur ma seconde installation (celle sur mon portable sous Ubuntu Hardy Heron), mais pour la troisième, c'est à 50 km d'ici, alors l'essai sera fait en temps utiles. Voici ce à quoi je suis arrivé sur mon portable. GRANT ALL ON mabase.* TO tartempion IDENTIFIED BY 'monmotde passe'; donne QUERY OK sur tous mes ordis, mais, ainsi que précisé précédemment, ne permet à tartempion de se connecter que sur le premier ordi, pas sur le second. Par contre: GRANT ALL ON mabase.* TO 'tartempion'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'monmotdepasse'; permet, sur le second ordi (mais sans doute également sur le premier ; pas encore testé..) de connecter l'user tartempion par $mysql -u tartempion -pmonmotdepasse; et cela permet également à OpenOffice.org-base de se connecter à ladite base avec les mêmes login et mot de passe. Entre les deux commandes GRANT, celle acceptée sur ma première installation et celle qu'il m'a fallu spécifier pour l'acceptation sur le second, la différence est que, dans la première je ne mets pas de quotes pour l'identifiant et je ne précise pas @localhost, alors que dans la seconde je mets les quotes et @'localhost'. Si l'idée m'est venue d'essayer ces modification, c'est que les messages d'erreur m'ont mis sur la voie. Ebling Andreas wrote: Bonjour, Selon la configuration, il faut faire flush privilèges; pour prendre en compte les paramètres. Cordialement, Andreas On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bernard wrote: Bonjour à tous, Etant très novice en mysql, il y a certaines choses de base que je pensais avoir maîtrisées, et qui me déroutent aujourd'hui. J'ai d'abord installé MySQL (+PHP) sur mon Desktop sous Lenny, et y ai construit plusieurs bases, que je gérais, soit en MySQL, soit avec PHP (sur mon serveur apache local), soit avec OpenOffice.org-base. Puis j'ai dû faire un double sur mon portable sous Ubuntu 8.04 : installation de Apache, MySQL et PHP, puis installation des mêmes bases d'après un dump fait depuis le Desktop. Enfin, un peu plus tard, j'ai refait une troisième copie, sur l'ordi de mon association, sous Lenny, de la même façon que sur mon portable. Aujourd'hui j'observe des différences de comportement entre les trois installations, pour les mêmes opérations sur les mêmes bases. Sur ma première installation (mon Desktop), sous mysql en mode superuser, je peux attribuer des privilèges à des users locaux, ce qui me permet ensuite de me connecter en mode user sur les bases autorisées. Mais, sur mon portable ainsi que sur l'ordi de mon assoc, GRANT ALL TO xyz IDENTIFIED BY 'motdepasse'; fonctionne aussi, çà me répond bien QUERY OK, mais ensuite je ne peux pas y accéder par $mysql -u xyz -pmotdepasse (Access denied) ! Et pourtant, sur ces mêmes ordis, je puis accéder, par cette même dernière commande, à celles des bases dont les privilèges avaient été précédemment accordées via mon Desktop, restaurées d'après le dump ! C'est vraiment la bouteille à l'encre... d'autant que je m'aperçois que ce n'est pas si simple que cela, car il y a des cas où, même avec mon Desktop, des privilèges ainsi accordés ne m'ont pas permis l'accès ultérieur. Disons que sur mon Desktop l'accord de privilèges à un user fonctionne la plupart du temps, alors que sur les deux autres installations je n'ai encore jamais réussi à le faire marcher. Est-ce à dire que certaines fonctionalités sont de versions différentes sur chacun des ordis ? Ou encore, si des privilèges de user ont déjà été accordés sur une base donnée, est-ce que cela empèche de redonner ensuite le même privilège à un autre user pour la même base ? Pour ce qui concerne la connexion auxdites bases par OO.org-base via JDBC, les différences d'un ordi à l'autre sont encore plus déroutantes : sur mon Desktop, les connexions fonctionnent sans problèmes avec les users et mot de passes que j'ai donnés ; sur mon portable sous Ubuntu, les connexions ne fonctionnent qu'avec les bases qui étaient déjà attribuées auxdite users avant le restore, mais je ne puis faire de nouvelles connexions ; sur l'ordi de mon assoc je n'obtiens aucune connexion (il faudra que je vérifie à mon prochain déplacement si tous les pilotes Java sont présents) Merci d'avance pour les lumières que vous pourrez m'apporter. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d028d27.3090...@teaser.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet
Re: problèmes avec mysql
Bonsoir, n'aurais tu pas des problèmes sur la valeur de tes @@hostname, sur les version de mysql, sur le paramétrage de mysql (variables toussa), comment à tu fais les exports/imports, as tu des erreurs lors de l'import si tu augmente la verbosité, etc ... Cdt,
Re: Hey..! Alguien me diga como APRENDO el lenguaje de comandos, para debian..? En que Link lo hallo o manual PDF?
El Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:08:12 -0600, Enrique Garcia De Bouvier escribió: Ya tengo las listas de comando para debian. Okey..!? (...) Ahora lo que quiero saber, es como aprendo a pescar amigo; o sea la escuela, el significado del orden de todo eso. Por que si no.. solo de manera absurda lo copio y pego a la terminal o consola; pero debe haber un porque, no..?. Eso es lo que quiero aprender. Hay algún manual Linux Debian. modo Matrix on Tanque, carga el programa de aprendizaje de Linux. (loading...) Ya sé todo lo que tengo que saber sobre Linux. /modo Matrix off Ojalá fuera tan fácil ¿verdad? :-) Tienes documentación completa en la wiki de Debian: http://www.debian.org/doc/ Si tienes el LPCI-101-102 y 201-202 * en español*. Lo hay en ingles, sabes si lo tienes* en español*, gracias. http://lpi.org.es/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=94Itemid=64 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.10.51...@gmail.com
Re: Hey..! Alguien me diga como APRENDO el lenguaje de comandos, para debian..? En que Link lo hallo o manual PDF?
El 09/12/2010 11:08 p.m., Enrique Garcia De Bouvier escribió: Ya tengo las listas de comando para debian. Okey..!? Lista de los comandos GNU/linux en: http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-i http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-ii http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-iii Ahora lo que quiero saber, es como aprendo a pescar amigo; o sea la escuela, el significado del orden de todo eso. Por que si no.. solo de manera absurda lo copio y pego a la terminal o consola; pero debe haber un porque, no..?. Eso es lo que quiero aprender. Hay algún manual Linux Debian. Si tienes el LPCI-101-102 y 201-202 * en español*. Lo hay en ingles, sabes si lo tienes* en español*, gracias. -- * Enrique Garcìa Bouvier Cell 5527140890 ** bouvie...@gmail.com mailto:bouvie...@gmail.com* apt-get install debian-reference-es firefox /usr/share/doc/debian-reference-common/html/index.es.html (o tu navegador favorito) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d020acc.2040...@gmail.com
Re: Nuevo fondo en grub y escritorio debian testing
El 09/12/2010 05:28 p.m., Edgar Vargas escribió: El 09/12/10, Carlos Zunigacarlos@gmail.com escribió: 2010/12/9 Edgar Vargascybernaut...@esdebian.org: Hola amigos, hoy actualice mi debian testing, y me di con la sorpresa q por ahi vi soporte para intel, sera que ya corriegieron el bug para intel?, tambien vi que es fondo del escritorio cambio, esta mas bonito :P... También me di con que ya han aplicado el artwork oficial para squeeze: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/SpaceFun Con lo de sporte de intel te refieres al soporte de KMS? Me referia al bug q hace q las pcs con intel se cuelguen, habia escrito antes por aqui ese problema y otro ususario tambien tenia ese problema (valga la redundancia), estuve muy esperanzado de q se solucione, pero hoy luego de cierto tiempo se volvio a colgar :(, pero asi sea sigo con debian, :P Saludos -- Linux Registered User # 386081 A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkting9rcbapcxedmawo9bhrph9sc-eyrwjhbhx...@mail.gmail.com Estás hablando de máquinas con placas de video intel o con micros intel ? -- In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d021550.4000...@gmail.com
Re: Problema compilando el kernel 2.6.35
Initrd lo uso casi desde que empece con Linux, hace tanto que no me acuerdo ya del motivo. Por lo demas, ha funcionado. Ya tengo linea de comandos. Actualmente ya tengo el driver grafico, tarjeta de sonido, mouse, etc. No se exactamente que opciones son las que necesito pero ya ire averiguando (mirada de reojo a Google) Gracias a todos.
Re: Programa de Modelado 3D
El 9 de diciembre de 2010 16:09, Edgar Vargas cybernaut...@esdebian.orgescribió: El 09/12/10, onvi...@gmail.com onvi...@gmail.com escribió: Saludos Camaleon Cierto, solo quiero evaluar otras alternativas, siempre es bueno, sobre el programa que me recomendaron se parece a Packet Tracer (de Cisco) y GNS3, este ultimo es libre y multiplataforma Packettracer es muy bueno todo para simular redes, esta disponible en un sitio como: nestux,com ahi esta la 5.3, saludos... Orlando Nuñez - Este mensaje ha sido enviado gracias al servicio BlackBerry de Movilnet -Original Message- From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 20:06:54 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Programa de Modelado 3D El Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:48:01 -0430, Orlando Nuñez escribió: (...) En este caso tengo una nueva duda, acabo de entregar mi tesis Red LAN para interconectar los departamentos de la organización IINGENIERIA C.A. y en Enero debo defendería, tengo dos opciones según mi Tutor de Contenido 1. Llevar una maqueta (física) y explicar como están conectados los equipos. 2. Presentar a través de un modelo 3D la oficina, conexión de los equipos, etc. Me gusta mas la idea del modelo 3D, hoy baje la aplicación Sweet Home 3D desde la pagina http://www.sweethome3d.com/es/index.jsp Veo que la aplicación esta orientada al hogar, no me parece muy difícil de usarla, mi pregunta es si alguno de ustedes conoce una aplicación parecida pero mas orientada a Redes. Si lo que te van a evaluar es el desarrollo de la infraestructura de la red, no te preocupes tanto por el modelado 3D de la oficina. Ese programa que comentas parece sencillo de usar y te permitirá centrarte en lo que de verdad importa. Además, parece que permite trabajar con bibliotecas de elementos (mobiliario de oficina, equipos...) de diversas fuentes/recursos según indican en su página. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.09.20.06...@gmail.com -- edg...@r: http://cybernautape.blogspot.com/ Saludos Edgar Si te parece bueno Packet Tracer deberias probar GNS3 http://www.gns3.net/ -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Orlando Nuñez
Re: Compilacion de Kernels 2.6.36 37
he usado el método propuesto acá http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/8052302/Como-compilar-Kernel-con-parche-200-lineas_-_A-la-Debian__.html Obviamente respetándola para Debian... Aver si me echan una mano, ya que es mi primera vez que me las doy de compilador de kernel...así que capaz que este cagandola atte Panxos Que tal Franciso, Veo que en el Howto copia el config del antiguo kernel, con lo que sí debería cargar el modulo, si con el antiguo kernel lo hacía...pero no lo hace :-/ Yo en tu caso intentaría meterle mano como dice él, al config del kernel. Tendrás que buscar en Internet que módulos necesita tu hardware y luego buscar esos módulos en el config, compilar kernel, installar... -- Saludos, Ferran Donadie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101210131405.ga2...@cateto
Re: Nuevo fondo en grub y escritorio debian testing
El 09/12/10 06:59, Edgar Vargas escribió: Hola amigos, hoy actualice mi debian testing, y me di con la sorpresa q por ahi vi soporte para intel, sera que ya corriegieron el bug para intel?, tambien vi que es fondo del escritorio cambio, esta mas bonito :P... No me gusta demasiado, me parece algo infantil y un poco parecido al artwork de Fedora. Pero bueno, Debian nunca se ha destacado por ser muy eye-candy que digamos... Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d02481f.3030...@uncu.edu.ar
Re: Nuevo fondo en grub y escritorio debian testing
2010/12/10 Federico Alberto Sayd fs...@uncu.edu.ar: El 09/12/10 06:59, Edgar Vargas escribió: Hola amigos, hoy actualice mi debian testing, y me di con la sorpresa q por ahi vi soporte para intel, sera que ya corriegieron el bug para intel?, tambien vi que es fondo del escritorio cambio, esta mas bonito :P... No me gusta demasiado, me parece algo infantil y un poco parecido al artwork de Fedora. Pero bueno, Debian nunca se ha destacado por ser muy eye-candy que digamos... Siempre puedes proponer tú un diseño que te guste y creas que le va a gustar a la gente ;)... http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Artwork/Wheezy Un saludo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinol7qqvpotvn_repsugnnar_2=z9851wk+7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Nuevo fondo en grub y escritorio debian testing
El vie, 10-12-2010 a las 12:32 -0300, Federico Alberto Sayd escribió: El 09/12/10 06:59, Edgar Vargas escribió: Hola amigos, hoy actualice mi debian testing, y me di con la sorpresa q por ahi vi soporte para intel, sera que ya corriegieron el bug para intel?, tambien vi que es fondo del escritorio cambio, esta mas bonito :P... No me gusta demasiado, me parece algo infantil y un poco parecido al artwork de Fedora. Pero bueno, Debian nunca se ha destacado por ser muy eye-candy que digamos... Saludos Decepcionante el artwork de squeeze!!! Aunque no puedo criticar mucho, porque no hice esfuerzo por presentarme al concurso. Asi que ahora hay que quedarse con el space-fun ese. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1291996442.2405.7.ca...@x
Fwd: Hey..! Alguien me diga como APRENDO el lenguaje de comandos, para debian..? En que Link lo hallo o manual PDF?
me llegó al correo privado por error: -- Mensaje reenviado -- De: Cesar Ibarra Rodriguez cesar.ib...@gmail.com Fecha: 10 de diciembre de 2010 14:38 Asunto: Re: Hey..! Alguien me diga como APRENDO el lenguaje de comandos, para debian..? En que Link lo hallo o manual PDF? Para: Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com El 10 de diciembre de 2010 05:11, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: El 09/12/2010 11:08 p.m., Enrique Garcia De Bouvier escribió: Ya tengo las listas de comando para debian. Okey..!? Lista de los comandos GNU/linux en: http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-i http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-ii http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-iii Ahora lo que quiero saber, es como aprendo a pescar amigo; o sea la escuela, el significado del orden de todo eso. Por que si no.. solo de manera absurda lo copio y pego a la terminal o consola; pero debe haber un porque, no..?. Eso es lo que quiero aprender. Hay algún manual Linux Debian. Si tienes el LPCI-101-102 y 201-202 * en español*. Lo hay en ingles, sabes si lo tienes* en español*, gracias. -- * Enrique Garcìa Bouvier Cell 5527140890 ** bouvie...@gmail.com mailto:bouvie...@gmail.com* apt-get install debian-reference-es firefox /usr/share/doc/debian-reference-common/html/index.es.html (o tu navegador favorito) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d020acc.2040...@gmail.com Hola todos Yo tengo un manual Shell Scripting Bible que esta en ingles si gustas te lo puedo enviar. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinkwyqhngpq2o8vg=raqpembe2qjorzu1y_x...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Hey..! Alguien me diga como APRENDO el lenguaje de comandos, para debian..? En que Link lo hallo o manual PDF?
El 10 de diciembre de 2010 11:40, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.comescribió: me llegó al correo privado por error: -- Mensaje reenviado -- De: Cesar Ibarra Rodriguez cesar.ib...@gmail.com Fecha: 10 de diciembre de 2010 14:38 Asunto: Re: Hey..! Alguien me diga como APRENDO el lenguaje de comandos, para debian..? En que Link lo hallo o manual PDF? Para: Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com El 10 de diciembre de 2010 05:11, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: El 09/12/2010 11:08 p.m., Enrique Garcia De Bouvier escribió: Ya tengo las listas de comando para debian. Okey..!? Lista de los comandos GNU/linux en: http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-i http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-ii http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/lista-comandos-gnulinux-iii Ahora lo que quiero saber, es como aprendo a pescar amigo; o sea la escuela, el significado del orden de todo eso. Por que si no.. solo de manera absurda lo copio y pego a la terminal o consola; pero debe haber un porque, no..?. Eso es lo que quiero aprender. Hay algún manual Linux Debian. Si tienes el LPCI-101-102 y 201-202 * en español*. Lo hay en ingles, sabes si lo tienes* en español*, gracias. -- * Enrique Garcìa Bouvier Cell 5527140890 ** bouvie...@gmail.com mailto:bouvie...@gmail.com* apt-get install debian-reference-es firefox /usr/share/doc/debian-reference-common/html/index.es.html (o tu navegador favorito) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d020acc.2040...@gmail.com Hola todos Yo tengo un manual Shell Scripting Bible que esta en ingles si gustas te lo puedo enviar. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinkwyqhngpq2o8vgraqpembe2qjorzu1y_x...@mail.gmail.com Ups¡¡¡ Una disculpa lo estoy reenviando a la lista Hola todos Yo tengo un manual Shell Scripting Bible que esta en ingles si gustas te lo puedo enviar. Saludos
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Colegas: Tengo el problema que después de haber montado firehol, y creado una DMZ con una PC con 3 tarjetas de red, no se me ven las PC en el entorno de red. Aun cuando abrí el protocolo netbios en el firehol. Sugerencias ?? Salu2s
DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
Hola malditos emos, ustedes y su patetica distro que creen que son lo mejor, antes de matar a debian comprobe que no tenia nada actualizado, ningun paquete era la ultima version y si queria conseguir versiones mejores tendria que buscarme en... no les digo, jodanse! jajaja! Aca tengo preparadito el cuchillo para achurarlos a cada uno por emos! XD Les pasa por masoquistas! Debo decir que los ingleses a pesar del idioma entienden mejor que ustedes y resuelven mejor que ustedes. Y pasando al clasico TBI, son verdaderos Hackers, y no TROLL y LAMMERS como ustedes. Ahora al SPAM habitual: (contribuyendo a los miles de correos que hacen ustedes) SON TODOS LACRAS, PARASITOS, MIERDA, PUTOS, HIJOS DE MIL PUTA, BASURAS, TODOS CULOS ABIERTOS POR PUTAS, COME MIERDAS, etc etc etc. -- La vida es tan miserable y decadente, este mundo podrido que se cae a pedazos, no tiene recuperacion No soy emo, tengo cuchillo pero corto en pedazos a los demas, jojojo OwO Humanos masoquistas, de que se quejan?
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
Jajajajajajjajjaajjajjajaaj Amigo Fuma, fuma y pasa... Que loco! Orlando Nuñez - Este mensaje ha sido enviado gracias al servicio BlackBerry de Movilnet -Original Message- From: Lobo Oscuro lobooscu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:59:18 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA Hola malditos emos, ustedes y su patetica distro que creen que son lo mejor, antes de matar a debian comprobe que no tenia nada actualizado, ningun paquete era la ultima version y si queria conseguir versiones mejores tendria que buscarme en... no les digo, jodanse! jajaja! Aca tengo preparadito el cuchillo para achurarlos a cada uno por emos! XD Les pasa por masoquistas! Debo decir que los ingleses a pesar del idioma entienden mejor que ustedes y resuelven mejor que ustedes. Y pasando al clasico TBI, son verdaderos Hackers, y no TROLL y LAMMERS como ustedes. Ahora al SPAM habitual: (contribuyendo a los miles de correos que hacen ustedes) SON TODOS LACRAS, PARASITOS, MIERDA, PUTOS, HIJOS DE MIL PUTA, BASURAS, TODOS CULOS ABIERTOS POR PUTAS, COME MIERDAS, etc etc etc. -- La vida es tan miserable y decadente, este mundo podrido que se cae a pedazos, no tiene recuperacion No soy emo, tengo cuchillo pero corto en pedazos a los demas, jojojo OwO Humanos masoquistas, de que se quejan?
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
El día 10 de diciembre de 2010 17:59, Lobo Oscuro lobooscu...@gmail.com escribió: Hola malditos emos, ustedes y su patetica distro que creen que son lo mejor, antes de matar a debian comprobe que no tenia nada actualizado, ningun paquete era la ultima version y si queria conseguir versiones mejores tendria que buscarme en... no les digo, jodanse! jajaja! Aca tengo preparadito el cuchillo para achurarlos a cada uno por emos! XD Les pasa por masoquistas! Debo decir que los ingleses a pesar del idioma entienden mejor que ustedes y resuelven mejor que ustedes. Y pasando al clasico TBI, son verdaderos Hackers, y no TROLL y LAMMERS como ustedes. Ahora al SPAM habitual: (contribuyendo a los miles de correos que hacen ustedes) SON TODOS LACRAS, PARASITOS, MIERDA, PUTOS, HIJOS DE MIL PUTA, BASURAS, TODOS CULOS ABIERTOS POR PUTAS, COME MIERDAS, etc etc etc. -- La vida es tan miserable y decadente, este mundo podrido que se cae a pedazos, no tiene recuperacion No soy emo, tengo cuchillo pero corto en pedazos a los demas, jojojo OwO Humanos masoquistas, de que se quejan? Valgame diós a quien de ustedes se le arranco el capullo de asno este, mi díos las cosas que nos toca leer hoy en día, esto solo amerita una cosa, que hojalas la puta maquina que tienes, te explote en la cara :D Saludos Cordiales. -- Roberto Quiñones Owner - Service Manager and System ACShell.NET – Internet Services robe...@acshell.net - www.acshell.net San Martin #311 Santiago – CL (Chile) +560981361713 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=a+qmhbpfdhz_t1n-gzdsiqhp6ebjvyyaw3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
2010/12/10 onvi...@gmail.com: Jajajajajajjajjaajjajjajaaj Amigo Fuma, fuma y pasa... Que loco! Orlando Nuñez - Este mensaje ha sido enviado gracias al servicio BlackBerry de Movilnet Por favor, don't feed the troll. From: Lobo Oscuro lobooscu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:59:18 -0300 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA Hola malditos emos, ustedes y su patetica distro que creen que son lo mejor, antes de matar a debian comprobe que no tenia nada actualizado, ningun paquete era la ultima version y si queria conseguir versiones mejores tendria que buscarme en... no les digo, jodanse! jajaja! Aca tengo preparadito el cuchillo para achurarlos a cada uno por emos! XD Les pasa por masoquistas! Debo decir que los ingleses a pesar del idioma entienden mejor que ustedes y resuelven mejor que ustedes. Y pasando al clasico TBI, son verdaderos Hackers, y no TROLL y LAMMERS como ustedes. Ahora al SPAM habitual: (contribuyendo a los miles de correos que hacen ustedes) SON TODOS LACRAS, PARASITOS, MIERDA, PUTOS, HIJOS DE MIL PUTA, BASURAS, TODOS CULOS ABIERTOS POR PUTAS, COME MIERDAS, etc etc etc. -- La vida es tan miserable y decadente, este mundo podrido que se cae a pedazos, no tiene recuperacion No soy emo, tengo cuchillo pero corto en pedazos a los demas, jojojo OwO Humanos masoquistas, de que se quejan? -- Adrià ad...@esdebian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim+4dp8zvuco6xgc=1pxdnm5vyrzrghuzjev...@mail.gmail.com
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
El día 10 de diciembre de 2010 17:59, Lobo Oscuro lobooscu...@gmail.com escribió: Hola malditos emos, ustedes y su patetica distro que creen que son lo mejor, antes de matar a debian comprobe que no tenia nada actualizado, ningun paquete era la ultima version y si queria conseguir versiones mejores tendria que buscarme en... no les digo, jodanse! jajaja! Aca tengo preparadito el cuchillo para achurarlos a cada uno por emos! XD Les pasa por masoquistas! Debo decir que los ingleses a pesar del idioma entienden mejor que ustedes y resuelven mejor que ustedes. Y pasando al clasico TBI, son verdaderos Hackers, y no TROLL y LAMMERS como ustedes. Ahora al SPAM habitual: (contribuyendo a los miles de correos que hacen ustedes) SON TODOS LACRAS, PARASITOS, MIERDA, PUTOS, HIJOS DE MIL PUTA, BASURAS, TODOS CULOS ABIERTOS POR PUTAS, COME MIERDAS, etc etc etc. jajajajajajajaja, para por favor, detente mira que vas a matarme de la risa. Anda cada espécimen suelto por ahí. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinqn3ddjs0x-0q9t1zqovuhageúpvn-tgq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
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Re: OT- DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
On Friday 10 December 2010 9:59:18 pm Lobo Oscuro wrote: Hola malditos emos, ustedes y su patetica distro que creen que son lo mejor, antes de matar a debian comprobe que no tenia nada actualizado, ningun paquete era la ultima version y si queria conseguir versiones mejores tendria que buscarme en... no les digo, jodanse! jajaja! Aca tengo preparadito el cuchillo para achurarlos a cada uno por emos! XD Les pasa por masoquistas! Debo decir que los ingleses a pesar del idioma entienden mejor que ustedes y resuelven mejor que ustedes. Y pasando al clasico TBI, son verdaderos Hackers, y no TROLL y LAMMERS como ustedes. Ahora al SPAM habitual: (contribuyendo a los miles de correos que hacen ustedes) SON TODOS LACRAS, PARASITOS, MIERDA, PUTOS, HIJOS DE MIL PUTA, BASURAS, TODOS CULOS ABIERTOS POR PUTAS, COME MIERDAS, etc etc etc. Hi. Jejeje, poco usual. bye -- sld2 liuber's «Solo no puedes, con amigos sí» -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012101614.57943.liu...@fts.vcl.sld.cu
Re: Nuevo fondo en grub y escritorio debian testing
Tengo que reconocer que me gusta mas el grub-splash de ahora. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292018992.2399.1.ca...@x
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
Saludos. TROLL? Cual TROLL? El esta peleando solo, solo estamos disfrutando sus locuras --Mensaje original-- De: Adrià Para: onvi...@gmail.com CC: Lobo Oscuro CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA Enviado: 10 de dic, 2010 4:35 PM 2010/12/10 onvi...@gmail.com: Jajajajajajjajjaajjajjajaaj Amigo Fuma, fuma y pasa... Que loco! Orlando Nuñez - Este mensaje ha sido enviado gracias al servicio BlackBerry de Movilnet Por favor, don't feed the troll. From: Lobo Oscuro lobooscu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:59:18 -0300 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA Hola malditos emos, ustedes y su patetica distro que creen que son lo mejor, antes de matar a debian comprobe que no tenia nada actualizado, ningun paquete era la ultima version y si queria conseguir versiones mejores tendria que buscarme en... no les digo, jodanse! jajaja! Aca tengo preparadito el cuchillo para achurarlos a cada uno por emos! XD Les pasa por masoquistas! Debo decir que los ingleses a pesar del idioma entienden mejor que ustedes y resuelven mejor que ustedes. Y pasando al clasico TBI, son verdaderos Hackers, y no TROLL y LAMMERS como ustedes. Ahora al SPAM habitual: (contribuyendo a los miles de correos que hacen ustedes) SON TODOS LACRAS, PARASITOS, MIERDA, PUTOS, HIJOS DE MIL PUTA, BASURAS, TODOS CULOS ABIERTOS POR PUTAS, COME MIERDAS, etc etc etc. -- La vida es tan miserable y decadente, este mundo podrido que se cae a pedazos, no tiene recuperacion No soy emo, tengo cuchillo pero corto en pedazos a los demas, jojojo OwO Humanos masoquistas, de que se quejan? -- Adrià ad...@esdebian.org Orlando Nuñez - Este mensaje ha sido enviado gracias al servicio BlackBerry de Movilnet
ICMP
Hola amigos tengo esta duda, se que es algo relacionado con el ping pero desconozco, y no tengo internet, ayudenme, les comento esto porque notros no tenemos una ip publica y la unica salida que tenemos en nuestro trabajo es una dirección ip desde fuera solo se le puede hacer ping, queria saber todo lo referente al icmp para ver que provecho le sacamos , ayudenme con esto y denme ideas, gracias de antemano. -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292019694.1717.2.ca...@ubuntu
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
Y al final era nomas el tipejo que pense, siempre hace el mismo laburo, ya sea foros, listas de correos, etc, va a cada lugar pone un moton de cosas, cuando se le dicen las cosas, va a su blog y salta contra linux con sus discursos siempre en contra de linux y sus usuarios.- Ya al segundo mensaje empieza con sus cosas cosa que uno le diga algo, para saltar.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikc3azk4gup-_rujvnh9wdxadlnoaa+njvcp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
El 11 de diciembre de 2010 00:08, hector hector hmgli...@gmail.comescribió: Y al final era nomas el tipejo que pense, siempre hace el mismo laburo, ya sea foros, listas de correos, etc, va a cada lugar pone un moton de cosas, cuando se le dicen las cosas, va a su blog y salta contra linux con sus discursos siempre en contra de linux y sus usuarios.- Ya al segundo mensaje empieza con sus cosas cosa que uno le diga algo, para saltar.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikc3azk4gup-_rujvnh9wdxadlnoaa+njvcp...@mail.gmail.com Pero no es un troll vale, es un carajo un poco cómico, estoy seguro que en persona debe ser mas comico aun, cuando digo comico no me refiero a humorista, solo da risa. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Orlando Nuñez
Re: ICMP
A ver ICMP es un protocolo de eco/respuesta, es decir su única función seria proveer una respuesta a un mensaje, hablando a modo de ejemplo seria, un Host X quiere mandarle algo al Host Y, pero no sabe si el host Y esta o no funcionando, lo que hace es realizar un ping a la IP del Host Y, y espera que el host Y responda, y el encargado de responder es el ICMP.- Para lo unico que puede servir ICMP es para determinar si un host cualquiera esta o no activo, ahora bien existen situaciones que por seguridad se deshabilita el ICMP,es decir si recibe un mensaje preguntando sobre su existencia el host no lo responde, para el caso que planteas puede servir para realizar un ping a una maquina remota y ver si la otra maquina responde o no.- Los que se encargan de proveer o no acceso, pueden ser los firewall o los proxys.- Herramientas que pueden usar para determinar donde esta el bloqueo serian ping o traceroute, con ping determinas si podes llegar a un destino, y con traceroute determinas los dispositivos intermedios, siempre que para llegar al destino no existan mas de 30saltos, es decir entre el origen y el destino no pueden existir mas de 30router -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimdye-qdgsreywoc1y7aq+5+y9uzyokoqzzt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
Hace mucho tiempo que no miraba un correo de este tipo por aquí y es curioso ver como defienden las ideas del software perfecto y que no es necesario tener el mínimo conocimiento de informática para poder ingresar ha el. Puesto que existen muchos programas que ya en si hacen todo de manera automática. Me agradaría ver una persona de este perfil trabajando directo en el sistema, es decir sin GUI (*graphical user interface)*. Es mas me atrevo a decir que ni siquiera conoce el orden de un sistema, ni siquiera el que tanto defiende. Creo que primeramente se debe demostrar lo que se es y posteriormente hacer una critica de este nivel. De lo contrario se es un verdadero estúpido. El 11 de diciembre de 2010 04:43, Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.comescribió: El 11 de diciembre de 2010 00:08, hector hector hmgli...@gmail.comescribió: Y al final era nomas el tipejo que pense, siempre hace el mismo laburo, ya sea foros, listas de correos, etc, va a cada lugar pone un moton de cosas, cuando se le dicen las cosas, va a su blog y salta contra linux con sus discursos siempre en contra de linux y sus usuarios.- Ya al segundo mensaje empieza con sus cosas cosa que uno le diga algo, para saltar.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikc3azk4gup-_rujvnh9wdxadlnoaa+njvcp...@mail.gmail.com Pero no es un troll vale, es un carajo un poco cómico, estoy seguro que en persona debe ser mas comico aun, cuando digo comico no me refiero a humorista, solo da risa. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Orlando Nuñez
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
El 11 de diciembre de 2010 01:24, Salvador Garcia Z. meztlixic...@gmail.com escribió: Hace mucho tiempo que no miraba un correo de este tipo por aquí y es curioso ver como defienden las ideas del software perfecto y que no es necesario tener el mínimo conocimiento de informática para poder ingresar ha el. Puesto que existen muchos programas que ya en si hacen todo de manera automática. Me agradaría ver una persona de este perfil trabajando directo en el sistema, es decir sin GUI (*graphical user interface)*. Es mas me atrevo a decir que ni siquiera conoce el orden de un sistema, ni siquiera el que tanto defiende. Creo que primeramente se debe demostrar lo que se es y posteriormente hacer una critica de este nivel. De lo contrario se es un verdadero estúpido. El 11 de diciembre de 2010 04:43, Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.comescribió: El 11 de diciembre de 2010 00:08, hector hector hmgli...@gmail.comescribió: Y al final era nomas el tipejo que pense, siempre hace el mismo laburo, ya sea foros, listas de correos, etc, va a cada lugar pone un moton de cosas, cuando se le dicen las cosas, va a su blog y salta contra linux con sus discursos siempre en contra de linux y sus usuarios.- Ya al segundo mensaje empieza con sus cosas cosa que uno le diga algo, para saltar.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikc3azk4gup-_rujvnh9wdxadlnoaa+njvcp...@mail.gmail.com Pero no es un troll vale, es un carajo un poco cómico, estoy seguro que en persona debe ser mas comico aun, cuando digo comico no me refiero a humorista, solo da risa. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Orlando Nuñez Salvador. Disculpa cuando dices -- es curioso ver como defienden las ideas del software perfecto y que no es necesario tener el mínimo conocimiento de informática para poder ingresar ha el A que te refieres? quien defiende que sistema perfecto? --- Puesto que existen muchos programas que ya en si hacen todo de manera automática. Me agradaría ver una persona de este perfil trabajando directo en el sistema, es decir sin GUI (*graphical user interface)*. Cuales programas que hacen todo automaticos? Me agradaría ver una persona de este perfil trabajando directo en el sistema, es decir sin GUI (*graphical user interface)*. Solo tienes que decir tu ubicacion geografica y seguro alguien podria llevarte un dia a su trabajo y asi incluso aprenderias estas en Venezuela? Es mas me atrevo a decir que ni siquiera conoce el orden de un sistema, ni siquiera el que tanto defiende. Quien no conoce el orden de un sistema? - Creo que primeramente se debe demostrar lo que se es y posteriormente hacer una critica de este nivel. De lo contrario se es un verdadero estúpido. Tu puedes demostrarlo, incluso puedes leer implementar cualquier sistema o no? Disculpa, casi ni entendí lo que quieres decir, de pronto puedes aclararme esas dudas y asi ayudarte un poco mas! Saludos. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Orlando Nuñez
Re: DEBIAN ES PURA MIERDA
Hola Orlando como estas?. Es muy fácil saber quien soy, es la red esta casi todo para los que somos Ing. en software. Pero te comentare, Utilizo Debian desde potato y como tal defiendo a debian y me rio de los ignorantes, como la persona que publico este hilo. La vida informatica no solo es codigo, tambien existe la filosofía, ética, arte, etc. Cosas que una persona sin conocimientos no puede comprender o asimilar. Estas personas solamente son una manada de corderos que la mercadotecnia guía a travez de los intereses empresariales, es decir personas limitadas, El error perfecto para detener el crecimiento del ser humano. No soy Venezolano, Soy Mexicano, Ing en software, graduado en la Universidad del rey Juan Carlos en Madrid, me dedico a implementar servidores y apenas regreso de Alemania. Si vieras a detalle verías que escribo hoy desde California. Saludos. El 11 de diciembre de 2010 06:03, Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.comescribió: El 11 de diciembre de 2010 01:24, Salvador Garcia Z. meztlixic...@gmail.com escribió: Hace mucho tiempo que no miraba un correo de este tipo por aquí y es curioso ver como defienden las ideas del software perfecto y que no es necesario tener el mínimo conocimiento de informática para poder ingresar ha el. Puesto que existen muchos programas que ya en si hacen todo de manera automática. Me agradaría ver una persona de este perfil trabajando directo en el sistema, es decir sin GUI (*graphical user interface)*. Es mas me atrevo a decir que ni siquiera conoce el orden de un sistema, ni siquiera el que tanto defiende. Creo que primeramente se debe demostrar lo que se es y posteriormente hacer una critica de este nivel. De lo contrario se es un verdadero estúpido. El 11 de diciembre de 2010 04:43, Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.comescribió: El 11 de diciembre de 2010 00:08, hector hector hmgli...@gmail.comescribió: Y al final era nomas el tipejo que pense, siempre hace el mismo laburo, ya sea foros, listas de correos, etc, va a cada lugar pone un moton de cosas, cuando se le dicen las cosas, va a su blog y salta contra linux con sus discursos siempre en contra de linux y sus usuarios.- Ya al segundo mensaje empieza con sus cosas cosa que uno le diga algo, para saltar.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikc3azk4gup-_rujvnh9wdxadlnoaa+njvcp...@mail.gmail.com Pero no es un troll vale, es un carajo un poco cómico, estoy seguro que en persona debe ser mas comico aun, cuando digo comico no me refiero a humorista, solo da risa. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Orlando Nuñez Salvador. Disculpa cuando dices -- es curioso ver como defienden las ideas del software perfecto y que no es necesario tener el mínimo conocimiento de informática para poder ingresar ha el A que te refieres? quien defiende que sistema perfecto? --- Puesto que existen muchos programas que ya en si hacen todo de manera automática. Me agradaría ver una persona de este perfil trabajando directo en el sistema, es decir sin GUI (*graphical user interface)*. Cuales programas que hacen todo automaticos? Me agradaría ver una persona de este perfil trabajando directo en el sistema, es decir sin GUI (*graphical user interface)*. Solo tienes que decir tu ubicacion geografica y seguro alguien podria llevarte un dia a su trabajo y asi incluso aprenderias estas en Venezuela? Es mas me atrevo a decir que ni siquiera conoce el orden de un sistema, ni siquiera el que tanto defiende. Quien no conoce el orden de un sistema? - Creo que primeramente se debe demostrar lo que se es y posteriormente hacer una critica de este nivel. De lo contrario se es un verdadero estúpido. Tu puedes demostrarlo, incluso puedes leer implementar cualquier sistema o no? Disculpa, casi ni entendí lo que quieres decir, de pronto puedes aclararme esas dudas y asi ayudarte un poco mas! Saludos. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Orlando Nuñez
Hjälpprogram för blinda
Hej! I senaste utgåvan av den tyska tidskriften Linuxmagazin finns en utfrågning av Klaus Knopper. Hans hustru är blind, så utgåvan Knoppix är särskilt uttänkt att tillhandahålla hjälpmedel för blinda och för dem med nedsatt syn. Jag vill här nämna de program och läshjälpmedel som omtalas i den texten. Redan vid strömpåslag kan man aktivera Adriane, en meny med talsyntes. Bland enskild program omtalas SBL, en skärmläsare, espeak, för talsyntes, elinks, nätsidesläsare som klarar javascript, orca, känd skärmläsare som i samarbete med Compiz Fusion tillåter förstoring av skärmtexten ocropus och tesseract för inläsning av tryckt text gnokii och gammu skall hjälp till med SMS-meddelanden på mobiltelefon. Det tycks mig som om det vore värdefullt för en blind eller för seende med blinda i bekantskapskretsen att utforska de möjligheter Knoppix erbjuder, för sedan knyta detta även till egenskaper och utbut i gängse Debian och Ubuntu. Hälsningar och lyckönskningar. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/935680.56079...@web27402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
Samba 4
Bom dia, Pessoal, estou tentando instalar o samba4 como controlador de dominio, porém, após rodar o comando ./provision eu tenho o seguinte erro unable to load operational from /usr/lib/samba/ldb/operational.so: /usr/lib/samba/ldb/operational.so: undefined symbol: samdb_search_count WARNING: Module [operational] not found Alguém já conseguiu passar por esse problema? conseguiram resolver? Grato, Att, Maurício
Re: 0ff - - Sobre Free-lance
http://www.apinfo.com/ www.curriculum.com.br http://www.vagas.com.br/ericsson Não é como free lancer, tá mais pra funcionário mesmo. E provavelmente não é pra trabalhar comigo (o que é mta sorte). []´s Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://hloureiro.multiply.com http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
Re: 0ff - - Sobre Free-lance
Olá Galera, muito obrigado desde já. estou fazendo todos os processo necessario. - @@ Tenha uma Longa ViDa @@ *Rodrigo Batista* Celular :. 011-7865-6291 2010/12/10 Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.br http://www.apinfo.com/ www.curriculum.com.br http://www.vagas.com.br/ericsson Não é como free lancer, tá mais pra funcionário mesmo. E provavelmente não é pra trabalhar comigo (o que é mta sorte). []´s Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://hloureiro.multiply.com http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
Como configurar bind com modem router?
Boa tarde lista, Como faço pra configurar o bind pra hospedar um domínio no meu debian sendo que o modem só funciona em router? Tenho apenas 1 IP fixo, mas ja conversei com a Celepar e eles vão redirecionar pro meu ip o domínio. Ja fiz o redirecionamento no modem pro ip do meu servidor das portas tcp/ud 80 e 53, mas como faço pra que o bind9 (ou maraDNS, djbDNS ou qq outro do gênero) responda pelo domínio e direcione o site pra localhost:8180/portal e os emails para esse mesmo servidor? Grato a todos, Fabiano de Almeida. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d025942.3040...@yahoo.com.br
Re: Como configurar bind com modem router?
O bind não vai direcionar para porta nenhuma. Quem faz isso, é o modem router. A única coisa que o bind ou qualquer serviço DNS faz é informar para os clientes qual o IP do servidor. Acontece mais ou menos assim: Digamos que seu site seja www.empresa.com.br 1 - Alguém na internet (cliente) quer acessar seu site, e digita no navegador www.empresa.com.br 2 - A máquina desse cliente precisa saber o IP do host www no domínio empresa.com.br, então essa máquina consulta o DNS do provedor dela para descobrir esse IP. 3 - O DNS do provedor do cliente termina chegando no seu router na porta 53. Esse router, por sua vez, não tem serviço DNS mas ele faz um NAT para seu servidor na porta 53, que tem o bind rodando. 4 - Se o bind estiver configurado com essa zona dns (domínio) ele vai responder à consulta, informando o IP do host www na zona empresa.com.br 5 - O cliente recebe a resposta, e agora sabe o IP. 6 - O cliente agora tenta estabelecer uma conexão na porta 80 nesse IP que ele recebeu. 8 - Novamente, esse IP é o router, ele faz um NAT para seu servidor na porta 80, do qual deve ter um servidor web escutando nessa porta, apache por exemplo. 9 - O cliente agora consegue ver o site no navegador, pois a conexão foi estabelecida. Eden Caldas Consultor de TI e...@linuxfacil.srv.br (81) 9653 7220 LINUX FÁCIL – Consultoria e Serviços em TI Em 10 de dezembro de 2010 13:45, Fabiano Almeida fa.gru...@yahoo.com.brescreveu: Boa tarde lista, Como faço pra configurar o bind pra hospedar um domínio no meu debian sendo que o modem só funciona em router? Tenho apenas 1 IP fixo, mas ja conversei com a Celepar e eles vão redirecionar pro meu ip o domínio. Ja fiz o redirecionamento no modem pro ip do meu servidor das portas tcp/ud 80 e 53, mas como faço pra que o bind9 (ou maraDNS, djbDNS ou qq outro do gênero) responda pelo domínio e direcione o site pra localhost:8180/portal e os emails para esse mesmo servidor? Grato a todos, Fabiano de Almeida. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d025942.3040...@yahoo.com.br
Re: Como configurar bind com modem router?
Entendo, as configurações do bind, mesmo que dentro da minha lan passando pelo modem router, seria a mesma que se eu conectasse em bridge e recebesse diretamente o IP externo? Para com o apache fazer o redirecinamento para localhost:8180/portal? Grato, Fabiano de Almeida. Em 10-12-2010 15:06, Eden Caldas escreveu: O bind não vai direcionar para porta nenhuma. Quem faz isso, é o modem router. A única coisa que o bind ou qualquer serviço DNS faz é informar para os clientes qual o IP do servidor. Acontece mais ou menos assim: Digamos que seu site seja www.empresa.com.br http://www.empresa.com.br 1 - Alguém na internet (cliente) quer acessar seu site, e digita no navegador www.empresa.com.br http://www.empresa.com.br 2 - A máquina desse cliente precisa saber o IP do host www no domínio empresa.com.br http://empresa.com.br, então essa máquina consulta o DNS do provedor dela para descobrir esse IP. 3 - O DNS do provedor do cliente termina chegando no seu router na porta 53. Esse router, por sua vez, não tem serviço DNS mas ele faz um NAT para seu servidor na porta 53, que tem o bind rodando. 4 - Se o bind estiver configurado com essa zona dns (domínio) ele vai responder à consulta, informando o IP do host www na zona empresa.com.br http://empresa.com.br 5 - O cliente recebe a resposta, e agora sabe o IP. 6 - O cliente agora tenta estabelecer uma conexão na porta 80 nesse IP que ele recebeu. 8 - Novamente, esse IP é o router, ele faz um NAT para seu servidor na porta 80, do qual deve ter um servidor web escutando nessa porta, apache por exemplo. 9 - O cliente agora consegue ver o site no navegador, pois a conexão foi estabelecida. Eden Caldas Consultor de TI e...@linuxfacil.srv.br mailto:e...@linuxfacil.srv.br (81) 9653 7220 LINUX FÁCIL – Consultoria e Serviços em TI Em 10 de dezembro de 2010 13:45, Fabiano Almeida fa.gru...@yahoo.com.br mailto:fa.gru...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Boa tarde lista, Como faço pra configurar o bind pra hospedar um domínio no meu debian sendo que o modem só funciona em router? Tenho apenas 1 IP fixo, mas ja conversei com a Celepar e eles vão redirecionar pro meu ip o domínio. Ja fiz o redirecionamento no modem pro ip do meu servidor das portas tcp/ud 80 e 53, mas como faço pra que o bind9 (ou maraDNS, djbDNS ou qq outro do gênero) responda pelo domínio e direcione o site pra localhost:8180/portal e os emails para esse mesmo servidor? Grato a todos, Fabiano de Almeida. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d025942.3040...@yahoo.com.br
Re: Como configurar bind com modem router?
Sim. O trabalho do bind é apenas informar o IP correto para os clientes. Ele não informa pasta no domínio nem porta. Estando o IP no router ou no próprio servidor, o que importa é os clientes conectarem no IP correto, e para eles descobrirem esse IP cabe ao bind informar. No seu caso, já que não está usando a porta padrão, os clientes vão ter que digitar algo do tipo: www.empresa.com.br:8180/portal ou então o IP externo, ex: 200.200.200.200:8180/portal (esse exemplo não utiliza o bind pois não foi usado nome) Eden Caldas Consultor de TI e...@linuxfacil.srv.br (81) 9653 7220 LINUX FÁCIL – Consultoria e Serviços em TI Em 10 de dezembro de 2010 14:11, Fabiano Almeida fa.gru...@yahoo.com.brescreveu: Entendo, as configurações do bind, mesmo que dentro da minha lan passando pelo modem router, seria a mesma que se eu conectasse em bridge e recebesse diretamente o IP externo? Para com o apache fazer o redirecinamento para localhost:8180/portal? Grato, Fabiano de Almeida. Em 10-12-2010 15:06, Eden Caldas escreveu: O bind não vai direcionar para porta nenhuma. Quem faz isso, é o modem router. A única coisa que o bind ou qualquer serviço DNS faz é informar para os clientes qual o IP do servidor. Acontece mais ou menos assim: Digamos que seu site seja www.empresa.com.br 1 - Alguém na internet (cliente) quer acessar seu site, e digita no navegador www.empresa.com.br 2 - A máquina desse cliente precisa saber o IP do host www no domínio empresa.com.br, então essa máquina consulta o DNS do provedor dela para descobrir esse IP. 3 - O DNS do provedor do cliente termina chegando no seu router na porta 53. Esse router, por sua vez, não tem serviço DNS mas ele faz um NAT para seu servidor na porta 53, que tem o bind rodando. 4 - Se o bind estiver configurado com essa zona dns (domínio) ele vai responder à consulta, informando o IP do host www na zona empresa.com.br 5 - O cliente recebe a resposta, e agora sabe o IP. 6 - O cliente agora tenta estabelecer uma conexão na porta 80 nesse IP que ele recebeu. 8 - Novamente, esse IP é o router, ele faz um NAT para seu servidor na porta 80, do qual deve ter um servidor web escutando nessa porta, apache por exemplo. 9 - O cliente agora consegue ver o site no navegador, pois a conexão foi estabelecida. Eden Caldas Consultor de TI e...@linuxfacil.srv.br (81) 9653 7220 LINUX FÁCIL – Consultoria e Serviços em TI Em 10 de dezembro de 2010 13:45, Fabiano Almeida fa.gru...@yahoo.com.brescreveu: Boa tarde lista, Como faço pra configurar o bind pra hospedar um domínio no meu debian sendo que o modem só funciona em router? Tenho apenas 1 IP fixo, mas ja conversei com a Celepar e eles vão redirecionar pro meu ip o domínio. Ja fiz o redirecionamento no modem pro ip do meu servidor das portas tcp/ud 80 e 53, mas como faço pra que o bind9 (ou maraDNS, djbDNS ou qq outro do gênero) responda pelo domínio e direcione o site pra localhost:8180/portal e os emails para esse mesmo servidor? Grato a todos, Fabiano de Almeida. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d025942.3040...@yahoo.com.br
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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP
You can avoid the 8GB trap if you use GRUB as you have done. But i think it's because Grub can be placed elsewhere than on the MBR. It's a chronic problem with LILO cos there's no other place for it. The normal work-around is to use an 8GB primary partion C with another larger one D made later when setting up the linux system. - Original Message - From: Mark To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Freddie Exall freddie_sig...@gmx.co.uk wrote: I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or grub with a winxp partition of 8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR. Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long as I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year anyway;) now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky. [snip] Same here. I use either 20 or 30 gb partitions for XP and have no problems with grub or dual-booting. Pretty sure it's a partition table thing and someone already mentioned using cfdisk, which can be done from booting to the Ubuntu Live CD before installing. Mark
Re: Question about Seamonkey, Iceape, and Debian
In alpine.deb.1.10.1012101432270.3...@bretnewworkstation.busby.net, Bret Busby wrote: can someone please advise when it is likely (not definite, but, likely), that [squeeze] will be released? From http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/: People often ask if there is a single release progress meter. Unfortunately there isn't one, but we can refer you to several places that describe things needed to be dealt with for the release to happen: Generic release status page http://release.debian.org/ Release-critical bugs http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ Base system bugs http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?base=onlyrc=1 Bugs in standard and task packages http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?standard=onlyrc=1 In addition, general status reports are posted by the release manager to the debian-devel-announce mailing list. The last general status report is available in web form http://debian.org/News/2010/20101116b. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP
I am sure you're right. But if you try to boot different partitions from the MBR with Lilo it often fails when the first partion is 8GB. I don't know Grub so well but it is possible to mount this elsewhere than on the MBR which avoids the problem and Grub2 is even more advantageous. - Original Message - From: Freddie Exall freddie_sig...@gmx.co.uk To: Harry harry.sc...@blueyonder.co.uk Cc: bdebr...@teaser.fr; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:19 PM Subject: Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Harry wrote: I'm guessing that Gparted has divided your disk into one smaller disk which is what the ubuntu partioner sees. First thing I would try is to use cfdisk (available from a slackware or Zenwalk distro to partion your disk correctly.Windows must be on primary and only up to 8gb if you want to install lilo or grub in the MBR. The rest can be split as you want. Remember that for Ubuntu to see the partitions they must be mounted. Debian 5 does not mount windows partitions on the disk automatically so you cant see them. I've tried Xp co habiting with Linux and it's not easy to make it work with only one 8GB partition. Hope it helps you. I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or grub with a winxp partition of 8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR. Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long as I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year anyway;) now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky. Greetings, Freddie - Original Message - From: Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:46 AM Subject: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP Hi to Everyone, I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already running. I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD, the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them. Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the space without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable space for that purpose. I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did not create a partition table. The GParted iso CD offers this possibility, but then it warns you that creating a partition table will erase all data in all partitions.. So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new partition table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved partition... (or, maybe, the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN and install Ubuntu next) Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from those who have already tested, since a number of questions still remain : Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ? Will the restored partition boot ? How about the MBR ? Shall I have to modify GRUB so that both systems work ? Thanks in advance for your help -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cfe1eae.70...@teaser.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002901cb96ad$c0413a80$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002901cb9841$4fd2c3a0$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net
Re: Songbird and deadbeef - music players for Debian
Hi. Songbird dropped GNU/Linux support as I recall, but there is fork, name of which I don't remember. As of Deadbeef, I was using it for a while. there is .deb package for debian on their site. Regards -- Roman
Re: USB soundbar as default audio device
Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 12:15:33PM EST, deloptes wrote: Chris Jones wrote: I am trying to set up a USB sound bar on someone else's laptop running ubuntu 10.10 with a gnome desktop. what is this sound bar? something to eat :-)? No, a place where they charge the patrons for listening :-) [..] I wanted to know if it is a webcam or something else Is there any way I can make the sound bar the system's default and be done with it? you can read ALSA docs - they are weired but very good. I usually do few steps to setup a card. You have two options - to setup system wide or user specific That's what I was looking for. While testing, I tried redirection when launching programs from the bash prompt -- i.e. adding ‘/dev/dsp /dev/dsp1’ -- with unsatisfactory results: below par sound quality, loud cracks, the speakers go silent for brief periods of time, etc. dsp is OSS (not ALSA) and it works only with additional modules (loaded and configured) OK. I do not have access to the other laptop right now, but I would assume gnome has some sort of GUI that lets you specify your default device ‘system-wide’? check if there is pulse audio installed and running - this might be what you are looking for (there is something pactrl or alike or gui for this - I'm not using it but it's the future, so possibly you can use it) Will do. Another thing I noticed is that the volume button on the sound bar does not work: I have to start alsamixer to control the volume, which is not optimal. Does this mean that I am using a default generic audio USB driver for this device and that I should look for something a bit more specific that might support additional hardware features? I would say this was the configuration for the default card (built in) .. and volume and other controls on a builtin sound card would be rather inconvenient? :-) While I am at it I thought I might as well learn how these things work and stop guessing :-) then start reading at http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Documentation Looks more than promising, thanks! [..] P.S. I refrained from posting the 3 pages output by ‘lsusb -vs’. Not sure if that would help at this point. thanks, but it would help though to mention what kind of chip your usb card has (or vendor + model) Not sure about the model - the vendor is actually Logitech. $ tail /var/log/messages usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, address 13 usb 1-1.4.4: USB disconnect, address 14 usb 1-1.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 15 usb 1-1.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 1-1.4:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-1.4:1.0: 4 ports detected usb 1-1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0607 usb 1-1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0 usb 1-1.4: Product: USB2.0 Hub usb 1-1.4.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 16 usb 1-1.4.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: HOLTEK AudioHub Speaker as /class/input/input11 input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [HOLTEK AudioHub Speaker] on usb-:00:07.2-1.4.4 usb 1-1.4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=0a0e usb 1-1.4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 1-1.4.4: Product: AudioHub Speaker usb 1-1.4.4: Manufacturer: HOLTEK Not much that looks like a reference to a chip, at least to my uneducated eyes. As you notice the device doubles as a USB hub. I couldn't find information about the chip or even if the card is supported http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids What would a chip identifier look like? it doesn't matter when it is usb - the point was the information above about the ids I usually setup my notebook following way *) Add the user to the audio(+video) group Did that. *) create a file /etc/modprobe.d/sound with following ## ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio ## module options should go here #options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=dell-m6,ref,auto #options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref enable_msi=1 options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref #options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1 #position_fix=1 options snd-usb-audio index=1 I currently have this: $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound alias snd-card-0 snd-es1968 options snd-es1968 index=0 Let me check what this does before I make any changes. This way I have always the built in card configured as 0 which means first and the usb as second Ah.. nice. The options you'll find in the kernel version /Documentation *) For user specific configuration and experimenting with alsa you can use $HOME/.asoundrc excellent! [..] On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 12:17:02PM EST, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [..] the default sound is index=0 Thanks to
Re: USB soundbar as default audio device
Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 12:15:33PM EST, deloptes wrote: Chris Jones wrote: I am trying to set up a USB sound bar on someone else's laptop running ubuntu 10.10 with a gnome desktop. what is this sound bar? something to eat :-)? No, a place where they charge the patrons for listening :-) [..] deloptes wrote I wanted to know if it is a webcam or something else --- Not sure if I am understanding your question, but a sound bar is a small bar shaped speaker usually designed to mount below the monitor. It's a cheap pair of speakers, SoundBar is marketing catch phrases at work for you... Essentially cheap speakers that mount on the computers monitor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1306018035-1291971972-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2677369...@bda029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
Re: setting up a network printer
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 23:19:16 -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote: How do I configure a HL-4150CDN Brother printer? I have installed the hl4150cdnlpr-1.1.1-5.i386.deb and hl4150cdncupswrapper-1.1.1-5.i386.deb files from the Brother site. http://localhost:631 finds the printer and the correct printer driver. What is the ip address for the printer? Quick and dirty: cat /etc/cups/printers.conf | grep URI How do I tell lp to use it as the default? With lp you can select the printer to use (lp -d printer) but is a one- time option. You can set the default printer via CUPS web interface (printers tab / set as default button) or using command line tool (lpoptions -d printer). The print dialog in AbiWord sees the printer but when I send something to it nothing prints (the job does show in the queue). Open CUPS web interface and look for any error in the printer status. You can try to restart CUPS service (/etc/init.d/cups restart) and try to print again. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.09.16...@gmail.com
Re: How to know about new/fixed packages in Debian Squeeze ?
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 23:05:55 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: (...) In Ubuntu they have a nice page where the newest packages within a release can be known. For e.g. now its Natty (11.04) hence https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty . If I want to distill down I can go all the way to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/amd64/+builds (my architecture :)) and know which packages were successfully built. Is there anyway to know the latest packages available within testing/Squeeze on some central location/webpage ? Sort of :-} https://buildd.debian.org/stats/ You can click on the desired status (building/uploaded/failed...) and arch (amd64) to get the data. More stats can be retrieved from here: http://wiki.debian.org/Statistics Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.09.41...@gmail.com
Re: Songbird and deadbeef - music players for Debian
in-line :- On 10/12/2010, Roman Khomasuridze khomasuri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Hi, Songbird dropped GNU/Linux support as I recall, but there is fork, name of which I don't remember. Hmm... googling up came up with nightingale alienboombox but I'm guessing you are talking about nightingale - nice name I would say/imagine. http://www.detector-pro.com/2010/04/nightingale-songbird-fork-for-linux.html http://getnightingale.com/ http://develop.alienboombox.com/ It seems the project (nightingale) has still some way to go yet before we can use it. As of Deadbeef, I was using it for a while. there is .deb package for debian on their site. I was asking more as its inclusion in the Debian project. Does anybody know if deadbeef has been asked to be put for packaging ? Regards -- Roman -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=wxekweu-u0kpuqqurfcqnef4dw2hcyxqvg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Songbird and deadbeef - music players for Debian
As I know - No. No Deadbeef in experimental or sid. I was asking more as its inclusion in the Debian project. Does anybody know if deadbeef has been asked to be put for packaging ?
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
Hi, Tom: On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:05:00 Tom Furie wrote: On 09/12/2010 18:46, shirish शिरीष wrote: I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. I wouldn't suggest that as it can deal to unexpected surprises. Of course, you can do as you see, but in order to track Stable, I always suggest doing it by tracking codename changes, so stay with, say, squeeze till you know wheezy has come Stable and you are ready for the upgrade, then change the codename on your sources and do it. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012101104.01014.jesus.nava...@undominio.net
Script for using neroAacEnc and neroAacTag with rubyripper
I knocked out a shell script for ripping audio CDs with rubyripper,
spent entirely too much time on it (forgot that eval takes care of f%^$
shell quotes) and finally ended up using foobar2k in a windows VM
(because foobar's tagger is less hassle for me to work with than
rubyripper (especially for stuff like disc #, etc), but I'd hate to
waste this.
It assumes that neroAacEnc and neroAacTag are in the path (because I
keep my copies in /usr/local/bin).
--Joseph Lenox
#!/bin/bash
# Shell script to interface with neroAacEnc and neroAacTag for tagging
of AAC files.
# Basically put all neroAacTag options and neroAacEnc options on the
command line, script
# sorts out the two based on the presence of the -meta prefix for the tab.
# Written by Joseph Lenox, lordofhyph...@gmail.com
# PUBLIC DOMAIN - I provide no warranty, use as you will.
TAG=()
ENC=
input=
output=
curr_arg=
echo $@ /tmp/output
for i in $@; do
echo $i | grep -q -e ^-.
if [ `echo $?` -eq 0 ]; then
if [ `echo $curr_arg | grep -c -e ^-meta` -gt 0 ]; then
#append this to the tag list
#curr_arg=`echo $curr_arg | sed -e 's|artist=|artist=|g' -e
's| |_|g'`
echo $curr_arg
TAG=( ${t...@]} `echo $curr_arg | sed -e 's|=|=|' -e
's|$||'` )
curr_arg=`echo $i | sed -e 's|=|=|' `
else
if [ `echo $curr_arg | grep -c -e ^-of` -gt 0 ]; then
output=`echo $curr_arg | sed 's|-of\ ||'`
curr_arg=
fi
if [ `echo $curr_arg | grep -c -e ^-if` -gt 0 ]; then
input=`echo $curr_arg | sed 's|-if\ ||'`
curr_arg=
fi
if [ `echo $curr_arg | grep -c -e ^-w` -gt 0 ]; then
curr_arg=
fi
ENC=$ENC `echo $curr_arg`
curr_arg=$i
fi
else
curr_arg=$curr_arg `echo $i`
fi
done
#echo ${t...@]}
#echo $ENC
#echo $output
neroAacEnc $ENC -if $input -of $output
#echo neroAacTag $output ${t...@]}
eval neroAacTag \$output\ ${t...@]}
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Re: Songbird and deadbeef - music players for Debian
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:40 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: On 10/12/2010, Roman Khomasuridze wrote: (...) As of Deadbeef, I was using it for a while. there is .deb package for debian on their site. I was asking more as its inclusion in the Debian project. Does anybody know if deadbeef has been asked to be put for packaging ? Yes: ITP: deadbeef -- Ultimate Music Player For GNU/Linux http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576975 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.10.08...@gmail.com
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On 10/12/2010 10:04, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:05:00 Tom Furie wrote: As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. I wouldn't suggest that as it can deal to unexpected surprises. Of course, you can do as you see, but in order to track Stable, I always suggest doing it by tracking codename changes, so stay with, say, squeeze till you know wheezy has come Stable and you are ready for the upgrade, then change the codename on your sources and do it. Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then - versus switching the codename once the new version becomes stable? Cheers, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d020941.7040...@furie.org.uk
Re: help getting grub to see Windows 7 on second drive
Dear folks, Thanks for the suggestions here. In the end pressure to get the Windows installed fast meant I cheated and reinstalled Debian on the first drive. So I didn't run grub-update. Also I was so busy I didn't get time to read your emails before the great Lenny download and re-installation began. I think the grub update idea might have worked. Now Windows boots when I start up the PC however, F8 allows me to alter the disk boot order using the BIOS and then the other disk fires up and I get GRUB which gives me a nice menu with the Debian and Windows to choose from.. Maybe if I ran grub-update then the next time I boot up I wouldn't see Windows appearing by default. I have another PC at home with two drives on it. At christmas I will delete the 64studio linux OS I have on the second drive and then put Windows on as an experiment having disconnected the other drive with Debian on it. Then I will hook it up again, fire up grub and Debian and then try grub-update to see what happens I have paid a penalty for reinstalling Debian as I knew I would. I can't get my Brother DCP7030 scanner working again using the brscan and brscan-skey software deb files produced by Brother to run it. It takes quite a bit of farting around and one step has not worked. I can't be bothered trying to figure out what is wrong. I will also need to reinstall Opera in Debian which is also a bit of magical mystery tour but I will get there Windows of course saw the scanner right off the bat and then scanned some files and rebooted into Debian mounted the Windows disk on the linux tree and ran gscantopdf on the scanned files and worked round my scanning problem. But of course if I had realised to try the grub update idea before I reinstalled it might have worked and I would have got away without having to reinstall. It really ought to be possible to find a way to install Windows after Debian has been installed and not have to reinstall the Debian to fix the booting problems. If the grub update would work then we would have a generic recipe for anyone to use. 1. Get a new disk and install it. 2 Disconnect the existing disk(s) with Debian on them. 3. Install Windows 4. Reconnect Debian drive 5. Fire up Debian and run grub-update 6. Et voila. hermetically sealed sterilised Windows and unruffled Debian installation I will try again later. Regards Michael Fothergill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimkctlopvkuxmdgwkvjewdyx1etqm51bhhph...@mail.gmail.com
help getting grub to see Windows 7 on second drive
Dear folks, Thanks for the suggestions here. In the end pressure to get the Windows installed fast meant I cheated and reinstalled Debian on the first drive. So I didn't run grub-update. Also I was so busy I didn't get time to read your emails before the great Lenny download and re-installation began. I think the grub update idea might have worked. Now Windows boots when I start up the PC however, F8 allows me to alter the disk boot order using the BIOS and then the other disk fires up and I get GRUB which gives me a nice menu with the Debian and Windows to choose from.. Maybe if I ran grub-update then the next time I boot up I wouldn't see Windows appearing by default. I have another PC at home with two drives on it. At christmas I will delete the 64studio linux OS I have on the second drive and then put Windows on as an experiment having disconnected the other drive with Debian on it. Then I will hook it up again, fire up grub and Debian and then try grub-update to see what happens I have paid a penalty for reinstalling Debian as I knew I would. I can't get my Brother DCP7030 scanner working again using the brscan and brscan-skey software deb files produced by Brother to run it. It takes quite a bit of farting around and one step has not worked. I can't be bothered trying to figure out what is wrong. I will also need to reinstall Opera in Debian which is also a bit of magical mystery tour but I will get there Windows of course saw the scanner right off the bat and then scanned some files and rebooted into Debian mounted the Windows disk on the linux tree and ran gscantopdf on the scanned files and worked round my scanning problem. But of course if I had realised to try the grub update idea before I reinstalled it might have worked and I would have got away without having to reinstall. It really ought to be possible to find a way to install Windows after Debian has been installed and not have to reinstall the Debian to fix the booting problems. If the grub update would work then we would have a generic recipe for anyone to use. 1. Get a new disk and install it. 2 Disconnect the existing disk(s) with Debian on them. 3. Install Windows 4. Reconnect Debian drive 5. Fire up Debian and run grub-update 6. Et voila. hermetically sealed sterilised Windows and unruffled Debian installation I will try again later. Regards Michael Fothergill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimwpk3ycub+pnlzwdhl3t7xknosvj7u7m3ny...@mail.gmail.com
Re: help getting grub to see Windows 7 on second drive
On 10/12/2010 11:42, Michael Fothergill wrote: I think the grub update idea might have worked. Now Windows boots when I start up the PC however, F8 allows me to alter the disk boot order using the BIOS and then the other disk fires up and I get GRUB which gives me a nice menu with the Debian and Windows to choose from.. Maybe if I ran grub-update then the next time I boot up I wouldn't see Windows appearing by default. Couldn't you just set the disk with GRUB as the default boot device in the BIOS? That way your Windows will still boot if some disaster happens and you have to put that drive in another machine. Cheers, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d02166c.9030...@furie.org.uk
RE: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....
Michael, I've got a dual boot. Linux on one drive and WXP on another. Very easy to set up. But as I remember, when I installed Windows, I disconnected the Linux drive while doing the install, then put the WXP drive on middle connector of ATA cable when I had that situation. But now I have two drives on SATA setup and WXP is on second SATA w. Linux on first SATA. I know everyone says Windows wants to be first but. Hey it works. When I boot up I have the Linux drive as first HD in boot up sequence. Actually, in my boot up sequence the machine doesn't even show the second drive but it still works. Dear Whit and everyone, I cheated in the end and reinstalled Debian Grub saw Windows and put it in the menu correctly. But Windows still boots up as default when I boot the PC. Using F8 I can boot the other disk and Grub appears as normal and I have a choice between Debian and Windows.. It is a funny business. Thanks for the suggestions. Michael Fothergill
Re: Can't get grub2 installed in debian-business cared(lenny)
Sounds like you forget the mount points, it's easy to do when you use Debian's CFDISK or Partioner. Mea culpa! - Original Message - From: Thomas Yao t.yao...@gmail.com To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:17 AM Subject: Can't get grub2 installed in debian-business cared(lenny) Hi all, I'm tring to install Debian Squeeze via expert install of Debian Business Card(Lenny) Everything went well until grub installation, I selected the grub2 to install with Squeeze but no matter which device I tried to select to install the boot loader, it told me didn't select any device to install bootloader And I can't install grub legancy afterwards, and I don't want to use LILO, so anyone here met the same problem before? Thank you! -- @ghosTM55 Mechanism, not policy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinrfmx-2mffothtup2ibxsduyfad9lk1edma...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/006301cb9791$d6038c80$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net
Barcode reader. Need help and suggestions.
Hello kind people. I have really no experience with such devices, so any help and guidance will be very helpfull. Yesterday I received barcode scanner (for credit cards) from quite unknown chinese manufacturer. it has USB interface.manufacturer is MSR (I guess), and model is HCC7... When i plug it into PC lsusb gives Bus 005 Device 006: ID 04b4:bca1 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. Barcode Reader the barcode reader seems to be on, as I see green light. When I put my visa card in it, device goes down, it seems to be turned off. and i get this in dmesg: [ 7014.401237] generic-usb: probe of 0003:04B4:BCA1.0008 failed with error -22 After much reading, I found suggestion to connect barcode reader to PC through usb2ps2 adapter. With this setup there seems some Progress: when i slide my visa card through scanner it doesnt turn off - The same behaviour can be found on Windows PC if no driver for this device is loaded. So, as I guess all I need now, is software, that will output data from barcode reader to... well somewhere. I found this, but not sure if this is what I need, and anyways, I could not get it work. http://www.stackfoundry.com/other/softwedge/ So, if someone of you had experience with such devices, any pointers and guidance will be greatly appreciated. And sorry for my English. Regards -- Roman
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:04 +, Tom Furie wrote: On 10/12/2010 10:04, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:05:00 Tom Furie wrote: […] you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. I wouldn't suggest that as it can deal to unexpected surprises. Of course, you can do as you see, but in order to track Stable, I always suggest doing it by tracking codename changes, so stay with, say, squeeze till you know wheezy has come Stable and you are ready for the upgrade, then change the codename on your sources and do it. Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then - versus switching the codename once the new version becomes stable? Upgrading between releases is typically not just a simple apt-get/aptitude upgrade (dist-,full-) run. The upgrade process and things you have to consider when you upgrade are documented in the release notes and it is a good idea to follow them, as there might be substantial changes to the system that have to be taken care of. The release notes for Squeeze [1] break the update down into a couple of steps: 1. Checking system status update packages, verify enough space is available, disable pinning/backports, … 2. Upgrading packages - Use apt-get and *not* aptitude for this - Minimal system upgrade - Upgrading the kernel and udev This step is very important, because you have to make sure that you upgrade the kernel *and* udev together and - *Reboot the system* - Only now can you upgrade the rest of the system with a apt-get dist-upgrade run. This a, of course, a highly simplified view of the upgrade process, but it exemplifies that you definitely don't want to plunge into the process without preparation by running aptitude full-upgrade before you had your coffee. I would therefore *strongly* recommend to use the actual names in your sources.list and upgrade once you are ready and have read the release notes. -- .''`. Wolodja Wentlandwolodja.wentl...@ed.ac.uk : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
Re: USB soundbar as default audio device
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 03:29:19AM EST, deloptes wrote: Chris Jones wrote: [..] I wanted to know if it is a webcam or something else Well, no.. they're sort of a longish thing with 2 or more speakers that you connect to audio sources with weak output, such as subnotebooks or netbooks, etc. [..] $ tail /var/log/messages usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, address 13 usb 1-1.4.4: USB disconnect, address 14 usb 1-1.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 15 usb 1-1.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 1-1.4:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-1.4:1.0: 4 ports detected usb 1-1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0607 usb 1-1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0 usb 1-1.4: Product: USB2.0 Hub usb 1-1.4.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 16 usb 1-1.4.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: HOLTEK AudioHub Speaker as /class/input/input11 input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [HOLTEK AudioHub Speaker] on usb-:00:07.2-1.4.4 usb 1-1.4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=0a0e usb 1-1.4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 1-1.4.4: Product: AudioHub Speaker usb 1-1.4.4: Manufacturer: HOLTEK Not much that looks like a reference to a chip, at least to my uneducated eyes. As you notice the device doubles as a USB hub. I couldn't find information about the chip or even if the card is supported http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids According to the above, HOLTEK aren't even supposed to make USB audio stuff.. :-) Maybe I should send it back use the compatiblity lists to try and get something that's supported out of the box. What would a chip identifier look like? it doesn't matter when it is usb - the point was the information above about the ids Or maybe I could try plugging it into a Windows system and see what kind of drivers get installed? That might tell me more about what it really is and make it easier to search for solutions? Thanks, cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101210132331.gb13...@turki.gavron.org
Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Peter Koellner wrote: I switched between xdm and gdm, and the problem with unresponsive window manager and locked in focused window seems to go away with that, though I am not totally sure. Today I am having the same effect after starting the gnome session via xdm, so the display manager has nothing to do with it. The input events seem to reach the window manager and gnome panels occasionally, but I have to try for minutes until I am able to switch focus, close a window or start another application. I don't see any error messages. This is an effect so bad I have not experienced ever with debian during the last twelve years or so. The gnome panel gets redrawn on schedule and I can use my application in keyboard focus, but mouse events seem to have difficulties. xpdf left a dysfunctional menu on the display, when I try to click the Quit menu entry the mouseclick event reaches the gnome panel below instead and minimizes the xpdf window. So I guess some part of the X input event handling got clobbered. -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1012101401330.2...@kropotkin
Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)
Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that batch. one of them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it might be desktop-base 6.0.2 -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net2010-12-09 16:33:55 upgrade php-net-smtp 1.4.2-1 1.4.2-3 2010-12-09 16:33:57 upgrade php-soap 0.12.0-1 0.12.0-2 2010-12-09 16:33:58 upgrade isc-dhcp-client 4.1.1-P1-12 4.1.1-P1-15 2010-12-09 16:33:59 upgrade isc-dhcp-common 4.1.1-P1-12 4.1.1-P1-15 2010-12-09 16:34:01 upgrade libkrb5-dev 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:02 upgrade krb5-multidev 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:03 upgrade libk5crypto3 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:04 upgrade libgssapi-krb5-2 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:05 upgrade libkrb5-3 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:07 upgrade libkrb5support0 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:08 upgrade libgssrpc4 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:09 upgrade libkdb5-4 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:10 upgrade libkadm5srv-mit7 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:11 upgrade libkadm5clnt-mit7 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:12 upgrade desktop-base 5.0.6 6.0.2 2010-12-09 16:34:15 upgrade gthumb 3:2.11.5-3 3:2.11.5-4 2010-12-09 16:34:17 upgrade gthumb-data 3:2.11.5-3 3:2.11.5-4 2010-12-09 16:34:20 upgrade php5-cli 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:21 upgrade php5-mysql 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:22 upgrade php5-mcrypt 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:24 upgrade php5-gd 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:25 upgrade libapache2-mod-php5 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:26 upgrade php5-common 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:27 upgrade libasyncns0 0.3-1 0.3-1.1 2010-12-09 16:34:28 upgrade libwebkit-1.0-common 1.2.5-2 1.2.5-2.1 2010-12-09 16:34:30 upgrade libwebkit-1.0-2 1.2.5-2 1.2.5-2.1 2010-12-09 16:34:31 upgrade php-pear 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:33 upgrade php5 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:35 upgrade python2.5 2.5.5-10 2.5.5-11 2010-12-09 16:34:37 upgrade python2.5-minimal 2.5.5-10 2.5.5-11 2010-12-09 16:34:38 upgrade wpasupplicant 0.6.10-2 0.6.10-2.1 2010-12-09 16:34:40 upgrade dhcp3-client 4.1.1-P1-12 4.1.1-P1-15 2010-12-09 16:34:41 upgrade dhcp3-common 4.1.1-P1-12 4.1.1-P1-15
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:48:32 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) What I do in such case is using the NNTP interface (Gmane¹) for both, reading and posting, which alleviates me from storing a heap of e-mails and also managing tons of filters ;-) P.S. Most of Debian mailing lists do not require a subscription. ¹http://gmane.org/ But did you use gmane to post this response? Yep, and also this (look into e-mail header) :-) I send the message to Gmane NNTP servers and they re-inject it into Debian mailing list (it's a mail to news/news to mail gateway). I don't know why news servers where dropped in favour of mailing lists, they are still great and very convenient when following several groups. I am looking at your reply with TB and looking into e-mail header is not an option it appears. When you say, you sent it to Gmane NNTP servers, what do you mean? You sent it how? I meant by using Gmane, using a browser to access [1] and then use their 'post' function. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/idtgqn$cl...@dough.gmane.org
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On 10-12-10 8:04 AM, Wolodja Wentland wrote: Upgrading between releases is typically not just a simple apt-get/aptitude upgrade (dist-,full-) run. The upgrade process and things you have to consider when you upgrade are documented in the release notes and it is a good idea to follow them, as there might be substantial changes to the system that have to be taken care of. When I upgraded from Etch to Lenny used those names explicitly in sources.list so the upgrade happened at a time of my choosing when I had time to fix any problems. But, I didn't read the release notes. I ended up with a broken exim configuration, and a warning message that was something like It appears that you upgraded without following the release notes, here's what you should have done. I couldn't figure out how to fix the configuration, but fortunately removing and reinstalling exim solved the problem. Next time I think I'll read the release notes. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d023f73.7070...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)
Peter Koellner wrote: Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that batch. one of them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it might be desktop-base 6.0.2 Indeed, but what are you going to do? I do a backup before a dist-upgrade, so I can fall back to something that works. But never doing an upgrade again is not an option. Pinning never seems to work for me: right now I want to pin mc, mondo and mindi, but it does not work, they get updated anyway: Package: mc Pin: version 4.6* Pin-Priority: 1001 Package: wmtemp Pin: version 0.0.6-3 Pin-Priority: 1001 Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/idti4b$jf...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 09:26:14 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: But did you use gmane to post this response? Yep, and also this (look into e-mail header) :-) I send the message to Gmane NNTP servers and they re-inject it into Debian mailing list (it's a mail to news/news to mail gateway). I don't know why news servers where dropped in favour of mailing lists, they are still great and very convenient when following several groups. I am looking at your reply with TB and looking into e-mail header is not an option it appears. Select the message I sent and then hit Ctrl+U for displaying full e- mail headers in Thunderbird ;-) When you say, you sent it to Gmane NNTP servers, what do you mean? You sent it how? I meant by using Gmane, using a browser to access [1] and then use their 'post' function. I mean using as incoming/outgoing server news.gmane.org:119 but no browser needed (although posting via http is also available), you can use any news client (i.e., Thunderbird), create a new News account and configure Gmane as news server (with the above mentioned host name and port), choose the group you want to follow and get/post messages as usual :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.15.55...@gmail.com
User stylesheets with mozilla browsers
Is there any way I could use a custom stylesheet to make my web browser rearrange text in two or more columns so I don't get my eyes crossed when I'm reading? Come to think of it, a web browser with vertical vim-style vertical splits, where you could display the contents of 2-3 tabs side by side would be nice. Thanks, cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101210155608.ge13...@turki.gavron.org
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Furie wrote: On 09/12/2010 22:19, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. Ehm, no. If you have 'squeeze' in your /etc/apt/sources.list it will stay at 'squeeze' until you change 'squeeze' to something else, no matter if debian moves beyond wheezy or not. In order to upgrade to 'wheezy' you'd have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list again (no big deal for me). Ehm, no, what? Re-read what I typed. Once squeeze is stable, changing your sources to stable means you will track stable, whether it is lenny, squeeze, wheezy, or whatever is coming after that. Sorry for the noise. I read your sentence as 'squeeze becomes stable' not as 'change your apt.sources another time'. - -- Johannes In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. - - Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0CToIACgkQC1NzPRl9qEVhWACdF4UDv906W52qo7jAK56ndJsj mTAAn1DIktQYmwvnpQX0m5PtvW6H50HW =0EJS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d024e82.6000...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Furie wrote: Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then - versus switching the codename once the new version becomes stable? You miss reading the upgrade instructions and release notes before performing the upgrade. YMMV, of course, but I prefer to spend 10 minutes reading the upgrade instructions to having to revert the upgrade procedure for all my machines, because I missed a simple but important point. - -- Johannes In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. - - Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0CT10ACgkQC1NzPRl9qEVHLACdGTcBz3M6XdAWhmCyRh6KAxpG 4loAn3Bty0kdFofu9VWma0cCljrOKUlc =m1v3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d024f5e.50...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de
Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)
Well, I am using debian testing on laptops since around 1999. Stable always seems to be missing the one or other driver or configuration for that, sometimes I have to fall back to unstable. Anyway, what I do now - in fact, have already done - is sending in a bug report. I still have my doubts that desktop-base is the cause, since it really does not do very much. Only the other packages are more unlikely to cause the effect. Most of the time, such annoyances vanish after a few days, weeks or months, until now I never had one like this that completely broke usability. So maybe I'll try to get desktop-base 5.0.6 somewhere, take a look at the differences and try to figure out if something there might be the cause. Only I had to switch back to a working machine now to do something productive. For your problem: Normally I use dselect and there '=' to fix a package whenever I get this dependency upgrade problem where someone put a minor version/release number in a dependency that really does not work with the continouus upgrades in testing or unstable. I must admit that I never bothered to find out what underlying dpkg functionality that one uses to do its work. On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Peter Koellner wrote: Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that batch. one of them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it might be desktop-base 6.0.2 Indeed, but what are you going to do? I do a backup before a dist-upgrade, so I can fall back to something that works. But never doing an upgrade again is not an option. Pinning never seems to work for me: right now I want to pin mc, mondo and mindi, but it does not work, they get updated anyway: Package: mc Pin: version 4.6* Pin-Priority: 1001 Package: wmtemp Pin: version 0.0.6-3 Pin-Priority: 1001 Hugo -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.osx.2.00.1012101654220@local.meinefc.de
using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.
Hi all, I had been trying (unsuccessfully though) to use jigdo. Here's what I have been trying/wanting to do. From what I know Debian released Squeeze 6.0 b2 about 3-4 days (on 6th IIRC). Now I know that debian also has a weekly build which is built every week which has all the updates as well has the latest updates to the debian-installer (specifically the graphical installer) . What I want to do is keep the image current to whatever would be the weekly build. There are 4 ways in which this can be achieved. a. Do the straight download through the server using a download manager/wget whatever. b. Do a torrent download every week. Both the above ideas aren't bandwidth efficient as I would have to download say in 2 weeks something like 1.2 GB even if I'm thinking about having a CD downloaded. Also IIRC on many of these images, there is no resume available and hence would have to download from start. So two ways remain . 1. jigdo 2. rsync From what little I know the idea behind both of these is that it will download only the diff between the files. Instead of downloading 600 MB to 4.4 GB again, one might save 60-70% in bandwidth (supposedly) using either of these ways. I tried jigdo but it didn't work for me. It was downloading files and after an hour or more of downloading files I did a CTRL+C or something like that to know if it can resume from there. It said something about merging and when I did again it started right from the beginning . I did read a mini howto online but that didn't help. There are two things which I didn't like specifically. While it is verbose, it isn't verbose as in how much (in percentage and time estimation) about how much time it will take to do the whole thing first time. One way I see out of this is to download the file first through a torrent, then put the same file using jigdo and then next week when a new jigdo file comes work through that, is my logic sound ? Also I do know that jigdo is in maintenance mode so don't see any possibility of a GUIfied version of it. rsync, have really no idea. So ideas, ways please. I want to be able to in a place where I can use the new images as well as help out friends in case they need Debian images. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktins7uuvtzp7m7vbufo5e9t6cpgm715yu4-av...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 09:26:14 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: But did you use gmane to post this response? Yep, and also this (look into e-mail header) :-) I send the message to Gmane NNTP servers and they re-inject it into Debian mailing list (it's a mail to news/news to mail gateway). I don't know why news servers where dropped in favour of mailing lists, they are still great and very convenient when following several groups. I am looking at your reply with TB and looking into e-mail header is not an option it appears. Select the message I sent and then hit Ctrl+U for displaying full e- mail headers in Thunderbird ;-) Thanks... did not know that. When you say, you sent it to Gmane NNTP servers, what do you mean? You sent it how? I meant by using Gmane, using a browser to access [1] and then use their 'post' function. I mean using as incoming/outgoing server news.gmane.org:119 but no browser needed (although posting via http is also available), you can use any news client (i.e., Thunderbird), create a new News account and configure Gmane as news server (with the above mentioned host name and port), choose the group you want to follow and get/post messages as usual :-) Yes, I have TB set up that way. But I see that in the header that you sent the message from gmail, so how did you address it, not to debian-user@lists.debian.org, but to Gmane's NNTP server, how? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/idtkbe$v5...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:26:21 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) I mean using as incoming/outgoing server news.gmane.org:119 but no browser needed (although posting via http is also available), you can use any news client (i.e., Thunderbird), create a new News account and configure Gmane as news server (with the above mentioned host name and port), choose the group you want to follow and get/post messages as usual :-) Yes, I have TB set up that way. But I see that in the header that you sent the message from gmail, so how did you address it, not to debian-user@lists.debian.org, but to Gmane's NNTP server, how? I send the messages to gmane.linux.debian.user (Gmane group for this mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into the real mailing list To: address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org). (excerpt from one of my headers) *** Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user -- this is what I use in my news client (...) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org -- this is after it gets gmaned *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.16.44...@gmail.com
Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.
shirish शिरीष wrote: Hi all, I had been trying (unsuccessfully though) to use jigdo. Here's what I have been trying/wanting to do. From what I know Debian released Squeeze 6.0 b2 about 3-4 days (on 6th IIRC). Now I know that debian also has a weekly build which is built every week which has all the updates as well has the latest updates to the debian-installer (specifically the graphical installer) . What I want to do is keep the image current to whatever would be the weekly build. There are 4 ways in which this can be achieved. a. Do the straight download through the server using a download manager/wget whatever. b. Do a torrent download every week. Both the above ideas aren't bandwidth efficient as I would have to download say in 2 weeks something like 1.2 GB even if I'm thinking about having a CD downloaded. Also IIRC on many of these images, there is no resume available and hence would have to download from start. So two ways remain . 1. jigdo 2. rsync From what little I know the idea behind both of these is that it will download only the diff between the files. Instead of downloading 600 MB to 4.4 GB again, one might save 60-70% in bandwidth (supposedly) using either of these ways. I tried jigdo but it didn't work for me. It was downloading files and after an hour or more of downloading files I did a CTRL+C or something like that to know if it can resume from there. It said something about merging and when I did again it started right from the beginning . I did read a mini howto online but that didn't help. There are two things which I didn't like specifically. While it is verbose, it isn't verbose as in how much (in percentage and time estimation) about how much time it will take to do the whole thing first time. One way I see out of this is to download the file first through a torrent, then put the same file using jigdo and then next week when a new jigdo file comes work through that, is my logic sound ? Also I do know that jigdo is in maintenance mode so don't see any possibility of a GUIfied version of it. rsync, have really no idea. Did you try http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/rsync-mirrors ? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/idtlmr$6k...@dough.gmane.org
Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: shirish शिरीष wrote: Hi all, I had been trying (unsuccessfully though) to use jigdo. Here's what I have been trying/wanting to do. From what I know Debian released Squeeze 6.0 b2 about 3-4 days (on 6th IIRC). Now I know that debian also has a weekly build which is built every week which has all the updates as well has the latest updates to the debian-installer (specifically the graphical installer) . What I want to do is keep the image current to whatever would be the weekly build. There are 4 ways in which this can be achieved. a. Do the straight download through the server using a download manager/wget whatever. b. Do a torrent download every week. Both the above ideas aren't bandwidth efficient as I would have to download say in 2 weeks something like 1.2 GB even if I'm thinking about having a CD downloaded. Also IIRC on many of these images, there is no resume available and hence would have to download from start. So two ways remain . 1. jigdo 2. rsync From what little I know the idea behind both of these is that it will download only the diff between the files. Instead of downloading 600 MB to 4.4 GB again, one might save 60-70% in bandwidth (supposedly) using either of these ways. I tried jigdo but it didn't work for me. It was downloading files and after an hour or more of downloading files I did a CTRL+C or something like that to know if it can resume from there. It said something about merging and when I did again it started right from the beginning . I did read a mini howto online but that didn't help. There are two things which I didn't like specifically. While it is verbose, it isn't verbose as in how much (in percentage and time estimation) about how much time it will take to do the whole thing first time. One way I see out of this is to download the file first through a torrent, then put the same file using jigdo and then next week when a new jigdo file comes work through that, is my logic sound ? Also I do know that jigdo is in maintenance mode so don't see any possibility of a GUIfied version of it. rsync, have really no idea. Did you try http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/rsync-mirrors ? I did. And I got this. But what's next? Script started on Fri 10 Dec 2010 10:56:41 AM CST /sda8Fri Dec 10-10:56:41# rsync ftp.de.debian.org::debian-cd/ Welcome to the FTP Server of the Department of Computer Science, Dresden University of Technology, Germany. General administration: ftp...@inf.tu-dresden.de Debian mirror related feedback: debian-...@ftp.inf.tu-dresden.de Hint: Don't use checksum'ing (-c), it's disabled. Module | Content and size + drwxr-xr-x 82 2010/12/06 08:29:11 . lrwxrwxrwx 5 2010/11/30 03:32:26 current lrwxrwxrwx 10 2010/12/06 08:29:04 current-live drwxr-xr-x 42 2010/11/29 15:11:31 5.0.7-live drwxr-sr-x4096 2010/11/28 15:47:50 5.0.7 drwxr-xr-x 30 2005/05/23 11:50:12 project /sda8Fri Dec 10-10:56:48# exit exit Script done on Fri 10 Dec 2010 10:56:51 AM CST -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/idtmap$6k...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
On 12/10/2010 10:55 AM, Camaleón wrote: Select the message I sent and then hit Ctrl+U for displaying full e- mail headers in Thunderbird ;-) or View-Message Source this was part of your message: X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: debian-user@lists.debian.org -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d024fe9.9000...@pcartwright.com
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:26:21 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) I mean using as incoming/outgoing server news.gmane.org:119 but no browser needed (although posting via http is also available), you can use any news client (i.e., Thunderbird), create a new News account and configure Gmane as news server (with the above mentioned host name and port), choose the group you want to follow and get/post messages as usual :-) Yes, I have TB set up that way. But I see that in the header that you sent the message from gmail, so how did you address it, not to debian-user@lists.debian.org, but to Gmane's NNTP server, how? I send the messages to gmane.linux.debian.user (Gmane group for this mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into the real mailing list To: address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org). I still take it that you send from gmail. But gmane.linux.debian.user is an incomplete address! Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/idtmsg$cg...@dough.gmane.org
Re: User stylesheets with mozilla browsers
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:56:08 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: Is there any way I could use a custom stylesheet to make my web browser rearrange text in two or more columns so I don't get my eyes crossed when I'm reading? Come to think of it, a web browser with vertical vim-style vertical splits, where you could display the contents of 2-3 tabs side by side would be nice. You can avoid loading CSS at all (view/page layout/none). But maybe you are more interested in something like this add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2108/ Disclaimer: I've not tested it :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.17.27...@gmail.com
Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: shirish शिरीष wrote: Hi all, I had been trying (unsuccessfully though) to use jigdo. Here's what I have been trying/wanting to do. From what I know Debian released Squeeze 6.0 b2 about 3-4 days (on 6th IIRC). Now I know that debian also has a weekly build which is built every week which has all the updates as well has the latest updates to the debian-installer (specifically the graphical installer) . What I want to do is keep the image current to whatever would be the weekly build. There are 4 ways in which this can be achieved. a. Do the straight download through the server using a download manager/wget whatever. b. Do a torrent download every week. Both the above ideas aren't bandwidth efficient as I would have to download say in 2 weeks something like 1.2 GB even if I'm thinking about having a CD downloaded. Also IIRC on many of these images, there is no resume available and hence would have to download from start. So two ways remain . 1. jigdo 2. rsync From what little I know the idea behind both of these is that it will download only the diff between the files. Instead of downloading 600 MB to 4.4 GB again, one might save 60-70% in bandwidth (supposedly) using either of these ways. I tried jigdo but it didn't work for me. It was downloading files and after an hour or more of downloading files I did a CTRL+C or something like that to know if it can resume from there. It said something about merging and when I did again it started right from the beginning . I did read a mini howto online but that didn't help. There are two things which I didn't like specifically. While it is verbose, it isn't verbose as in how much (in percentage and time estimation) about how much time it will take to do the whole thing first time. One way I see out of this is to download the file first through a torrent, then put the same file using jigdo and then next week when a new jigdo file comes work through that, is my logic sound ? Also I do know that jigdo is in maintenance mode so don't see any possibility of a GUIfied version of it. rsync, have really no idea. Did you try http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/rsync-mirrors ? I did. And I got this. But what's next? So if you make that 'rsync -avz ftp.de.debian.org::debian-cd/ /sda8/' he starts downloading everything. But the problem remains: you have no idea how long that takes, while the wget approach tells you clearly when the process is finished... Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/idtnv5$i0...@dough.gmane.org
Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:28:03AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: shirish शिरीष wrote: Hi all, I had been trying (unsuccessfully though) to use jigdo. Here's what I have been trying/wanting to do. From what I know Debian released Squeeze 6.0 b2 about 3-4 days (on 6th IIRC). Now I know that debian also has a weekly build which is built every week which has all the updates as well has the latest updates to the debian-installer (specifically the graphical installer) . What I want to do is keep the image current to whatever would be the weekly build. There are 4 ways in which this can be achieved. a. Do the straight download through the server using a download manager/wget whatever. b. Do a torrent download every week. Both the above ideas aren't bandwidth efficient as I would have to download say in 2 weeks something like 1.2 GB even if I'm thinking about having a CD downloaded. Also IIRC on many of these images, there is no resume available and hence would have to download from start. So two ways remain . 1. jigdo 2. rsync From what little I know the idea behind both of these is that it will download only the diff between the files. Instead of downloading 600 MB to 4.4 GB again, one might save 60-70% in bandwidth (supposedly) using either of these ways. I tried jigdo but it didn't work for me. It was downloading files and after an hour or more of downloading files I did a CTRL+C or something like that to know if it can resume from there. It said something about merging and when I did again it started right from the beginning . I did read a mini howto online but that didn't help. There are two things which I didn't like specifically. While it is verbose, it isn't verbose as in how much (in percentage and time estimation) about how much time it will take to do the whole thing first time. One way I see out of this is to download the file first through a torrent, then put the same file using jigdo and then next week when a new jigdo file comes work through that, is my logic sound ? Also I do know that jigdo is in maintenance mode so don't see any possibility of a GUIfied version of it. rsync, have really no idea. Did you try http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/rsync-mirrors ? I did. And I got this. But what's next? So if you make that 'rsync -avz ftp.de.debian.org::debian-cd/ /sda8/' he starts downloading everything. But the problem remains: you have no idea how long that takes, while the wget approach tells you clearly when the process is finished... Try using the '-P' switch for rsync. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101210174634.gb14...@aurora.owens.net
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
In idtmsg$cg...@dough.gmane.org, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:26:21 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) I mean using as incoming/outgoing server news.gmane.org:119 but no browser needed (although posting via http is also available), you can use any news client (i.e., Thunderbird), create a new News account and configure Gmane as news server (with the above mentioned host name and port), choose the group you want to follow and get/post messages as usual :-) Yes, I have TB set up that way. But I see that in the header that you sent the message from gmail, so how did you address it, not to debian-user@lists.debian.org, but to Gmane's NNTP server, how? I send the messages to gmane.linux.debian.user (Gmane group for this mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into the real mailing list To: address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org). I still take it that you send from gmail. No. The first thing that you should realize is that the From header is not to be trusted. In a capable mail client, you can set it to whatever you desire, even if you are sending through a different server. I send all outgoing mail through my own server (mail.iguanasuicide.net, port 587, authentication required) even if it is From my @gmail.com or @novell.com address. Looking at the other headers, particularly the Received headers, there's no indication that the message ever touched a google system. The first received header was added my my server, so I trust that one. The next received header has a by that matches a Received header I trust, so I trust that by. liszt.d.o is generally trustworthy, so that covers the rest of that Received header as well as the next 3. The next two received headers are most likely Gmane internal processing. The last is probably the original NNTP post; noelamac is camaleon backwards; Camaleón probably uses it as a username or hostname. But gmane.linux.debian.user is an incomplete address! gmane.linux.debian.user is the name of a *newsgroup*. Gmane takes posts to that newsgroups, munges them a bit, and sends them to debian-u...@list.d.o. Gmane is also subscribed to the list, and takes message from the list, munges them a bit, and posts them to gmane.linux.debian.user. This allows people that prefer the NNTP protocol to participate as peers with the majority of the mailing list that uses SMTP + POP/IMAP. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
Hugo Vanwoerkom: Camaleón wrote: I send the messages to gmane.linux.debian.user (Gmane group for this mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into the real mailing list To: address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org). I still take it that you send from gmail. No, she/he doesn't. The client in use by Camaleón is Pan, a news reader. But gmane.linux.debian.user is an incomplete address! It's the complete name of the newsgroup. It just happens to be available on only one server. J. -- In the west we kill people like chickens. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Debian Install Hangs
Hi, I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a supermicro mother board and it hangs at: pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping Any ideas as how to get around this. Blake --
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:09:35 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: I send the messages to gmane.linux.debian.user (Gmane group for this mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into the real mailing list To: address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org). I still take it that you send from gmail. But gmane.linux.debian.user is an incomplete address! Yes, I can manage as many profile as I like and for each profile I can choose the From: address to use. As for gmane.linux.debian.user is the proper address when sending messages to newsgroups like Gmane or other nntp servers :-) Some background RFC here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.18.22...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Install Hangs
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote: I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a supermicro mother board and it hangs at: pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping Any ideas as how to get around this. Google suggests passing noapic to the kernel at boot time. It can be worth a try :-? What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.18.36...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Install Hangs
I have tried using "noapic" at boot time but it still hangs at Hyper threading. Also I am installing lenny. Blake On 10-12-10 02:36 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote: I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a supermicro mother board and it hangs at: pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping Any ideas as how to get around this. Google suggests passing "noapic" to the kernel at boot time. It can be worth a try :-? What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze? Greetings, --
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:03:30 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom: Camaleón wrote: I send the messages to gmane.linux.debian.user (Gmane group for this mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into the real mailing list To: address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org). I still take it that you send from gmail. No, she/he doesn't. The client in use by Camaleón is Pan, a news reader. She. Camaleón is just a nickname -a Spanish word meaning chameleon in English- I chose when I installed my first linux system, SuSE Linux 8.2, 7 years ago (openSUSE mascot is a gecko). I was so used to it (to the nickname) that I kept. And yes, under Pan I have setup my real e-mail address (noela...@gmail.com, mainly used for mailing lists) just in case someone needs to contact me off-list. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.18.57...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Install Hangs
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:42:43 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote: On 10-12-10 02:36 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote: I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a supermicro mother board and it hangs at: pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping Any ideas as how to get around this. Google suggests passing noapic to the kernel at boot time. It can be worth a try :-? What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze? I have tried using noapic at boot time but it still hangs at Hyper threading. Also I am installing lenny. I don't like workarounds like this, but... how about disabling HT in BIOS? Supermicro boards use to have a enable/disable switch for that setting. If the installation can proceed normally, then you can toggle on again when it finishes. If you prefer to be more conservative (like me) you can also try to load a LiveCD of Lenny and see what happens. Also, check if there is an updated BIOS revision for your board. If yes, I would ask Supermicro to get some feedback before applying it, but it could be another path to try :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.19.09...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:44:27 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:26:21 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) I mean using as incoming/outgoing server news.gmane.org:119 but no browser needed (although posting via http is also available), you can use any news client (i.e., Thunderbird), create a new News account and configure Gmane as news server (with the above mentioned host name and port), choose the group you want to follow and get/post messages as usual :-) Yes, I have TB set up that way. But I see that in the header that you sent the message from gmail, so how did you address it, not to debian-user@lists.debian.org, but to Gmane's NNTP server, how? I send the messages to gmane.linux.debian.user (Gmane group for this mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into the real mailing list To: address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org). Yeah, but what address do you use...nntp://gmane whatever ??? - -- - -- Frank -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNAn6wAAoJEMEDyLTvrVhj18MH/R03l0PgjUUZmJmD2BZ4RlAB 91HQg9sHfxhm3k4wL6XtsODeQkn5fhawqNpd7KZm9W7xdogSyk4YZdCFWJ7aLtAi 3f1XDwuPwPjeOoBxOI0AX2nMSST4h1L51TAjGcHxx5ZUfI0ssvU/fAHeCYjWR73S lZ6FptrhUglPXilPz6cJw3Dv7xgy9M0hfvqB9EwG4bg1h74Hqp/hdjSg9wLWUZlA 3Kc/g5kXqHvjgUbhwP2v2Y2HdCRPDoWkBSxkznmdWr2szTIGIn2l825pEIBvVE6N Rt+wKJA9evkjzn4evYnlkrl4IwYaGwP3T2aYcRlMzvQ1amuikkPqwfMSw2usNnw= =dx46 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101210142536.e844eb05.debianl...@videotron.ca
Re: [OT] Mail list issue.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:25:36 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:44:27 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:26:21 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Yes, I have TB set up that way. But I see that in the header that you sent the message from gmail, so how did you address it, not to debian-user@lists.debian.org, but to Gmane's NNTP server, how? I send the messages to gmane.linux.debian.user (Gmane group for this mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into the real mailing list To: address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org). Yeah, but what address do you use...nntp://gmane whatever ??? Oh, my... }:-) Let's try with a snapshot: http://picpaste.com/nntp-posting-ehXb3amr.png Hint: red rectangle. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.10.19.43...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Install Hangs
Unfortunately that did not work and I cannot get it past that point. On 10-12-10 03:09 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:42:43 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote: On 10-12-10 02:36 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote: I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a supermicro mother board and it hangs at: pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping Any ideas as how to get around this. Google suggests passing "noapic" to the kernel at boot time. It can be worth a try :-? What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze? I have tried using "noapic" at boot time but it still hangs at Hyper threading. Also I am installing lenny. I don't like workarounds like this, but... how about disabling HT in BIOS? Supermicro boards use to have a "enable/disable" switch for that setting. If the installation can proceed normally, then you can toggle on again when it finishes. If you prefer to be more conservative (like me) you can also try to load a LiveCD of Lenny and see what happens. Also, check if there is an updated BIOS revision for your board. If yes, I would ask Supermicro to get some feedback before applying it, but it could be another path to try :-? Greetings, --
RAID1 with multiple partitions
I'm trying to use RAID 1 for the first time. I've gone ahead and set up a system to test, using primarily these two guides: http://mikeoverip.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/debian-5-lenny-step-by-step-installation-with-software-raid-1-with-screenshots/ http://dev.jerryweb.org/raid/ My system looks like this: - Squeeze - 2 drives - 4 physical partitions for RAID on each disk, thus 4 MD arrays ( /boot, swap, /, /home ) /boot is EXT2,/ and /home are EXT3. The system works, but I still have some questions about whether what I've already done is OK. 1) Is it OK to use 4 MD arrays like this, or should I use just one and LVM like the jerryweb link? I got a bit confused reading about LVM and I don't need anything fancy like being able to resize partitions. 2) I put the SWAP partition on RAID. The first guide doesn't use RAID for swap. The author emailed me his comments about the pros and cons, and I think I want it on RAID for peace of mind. It shouldn't really matter since I have much more RAM than I need. Is there any reason I might regret putting SWAP on RAID? cat /proc/mdstat reports the MD1 (the swap device) as auto-read-only. 3) The first guide doesn't use a separate boot partion, the second does. Comments? I've never used a separate boot partition. I think it used to be important on large disks, to keep the kernel in the first 1024 cylinders, but isn't important anymore. 4) The first guide shows how to install Grub on both disks. After that's done once, do I have to do it again whenever there's a new kernel package? Or in any other situation that I have to watch out for? 5) Besides question 4, is there any foreseeable problem that could leave me with an unbootable system? Like, in the past have RAID systems broken when upgraded from Etch to Lenny or Lenny to Squeeze? 6) I have lots of questions about disaster recovery, but can anyone recommend something I should read about that so I don't have to bug you with too many questions? The installation went entirely smoothly. The initial sync of MD3 (/root) is happening now. It's taking much longer than the installation. That surprises me, but if that's the biggest surprise I got from my first attempt at RAID the beta2 installer must be pretty good. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d028a68.8080...@alcor.concordia.ca
