date:20101213

Hello,

shawn wilson wrote:
> Gero wrote:
> > What I need most, is conversion between dec/hex/oct/binary - and that
> > conversion is very handy with KCalc.
> 
> ... you mean like bc's hex(), oct(), dec(), bin() functions?

I'm sorry. 

As I'm used to use vim and terminals - I have to confess, that I don't know 
bc. KCalc is foolproof - I don't need to read a manual to use it ;)

> yeah, a gui is just for keeping multiple consoles in one screen 

Agree :)

But I have to confess, I'm quite lazy - so if I have the choice between a gui-
app, that I can use without reading a single manual line and a cmdline-app, 
that does not show the basics I need at --help option ... guess what.

kind regards

Gero

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

Hello,

Andrei Popescu wrote:
> I would even settle for a Linux version if properly packaged for Debian.
> ... Given the reasonable one-time
> licence fee I would even consider buying it!

Agree!

If I remember well, tc is able to have several directory shortcuts in one 
panel too. So yes - would be fine.

kind regards

Gero


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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

Hello,

Andrei Popescu wrote:
> The question is certainly in the installer, I checked the translation
> files (.po), but it is probably shown only on expert installs.

Ok, I tried several installations, but the question about utc settings is not 
there. Not on normal installation, neither on expert installation. So I was 
fooled by my mind.

I don't know, when it has disappeared.

But, I believe, that hwclock interpretation as utc is unix/linux standard, so 
doing so without question would be fine. Breaking that standard should not 
happen without user notification. No matter whether in standard or expert mode.

So I would appreciate a lot a message like "The installer detected a windows 
installation. It is recommended to change hwclock to local settings. Would you 
like to change hwclock settings to local mode?" - and then its up to the taste 
of the user.

For me its the same question like the root account. As there is no 
professional ix-system without root account - its natural to have it on debian 
systems. Only systems like ubuntu consider the user as too stupid to give him 
a root account.

So the habbit of silently break the standards may be ok for other linux 
systems, but not for debian. Therefor I vote for the utc-question before 
changing /etc/default/rcS to local.

kind regards

Gero

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Пoлигpафичeскaя пoмoщь 911

Hello,

John Hasler wrote:
> Geronimo writes:
> > No, I refer to the kde settings dialog, where all desktop-settings can
> > be changed. The same configuration page is accessible from the clock
> > in the destop-bar.
> 
> These are per-user settings, then?  

No - not at all.

To change time-settings you'll need to authorize as superuser and the changes 
then will change system settings.

I think, current time will never be a question of taste, so it makes no sense 
at all, having a per-user-timezone.

kind regards

Gero

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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2010-12-13 Thread Stan Hoeppner

Joel Roth put forth on 12/13/2010 10:03 PM:

> That is fascinating to learn, especially the fdisk
> is among the best tools for disk partitioning.
> 
> I was going to ask about my disk, but I see that my message
> is 
> 
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> 
> Which seems to be different than the OP's physical sector size
> message.

You have a totally different issue than what I addressed.

> If partition 1 is off, does that mean *all* partitions are
> off? How does one verify? (I used MiniTool Partition Wizard
> to shrink my laptop's Windows 7 partition, handling all the
> magical, Linux-hating files -- MFT, etc.)

> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x27b11b56

>Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1   *   1 154 12288007  HPFS/NTFS
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda2 154474236860288+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda347435251 4088500   82  Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/sda45252   38914   270398047+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/sda55252716315358108   83  Linux
> /dev/sda67164   37638   244790404   83  Linux
> /dev/sda7   37639   3891410247  HPFS/NTFS

AFAIK this isn't critical.  I just checked one of my servers, all of
which have a 100MB /boot partition at the outside cylinder of the drive.
 The first cylinder of any modern drive, especially single platter
drives, is going to be many gigabytes in size.  Thus, I'm pretty sure my
100MB boot partitions do NOT end on cylinder boundaries.  However, I
don't receive the notification you do.

Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x37945249

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1  12   96358+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2  13426734178287+  83  Linux
/dev/sda34268   28707   1963143005  Extended
/dev/sda542684391  995998+  82  Linux swap
/dev/sda64392   1654997659103+  83  Linux
/dev/sda7   16550   2870797659103+  83  Linux

Again, I don't think this is worth any time.  If you have one of the
translated 4K drives and you're currently misaligned, that is worth
taking some time to fix.

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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2010-12-13 Thread Joel Roth

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:40:42PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Jochen Schulz put forth on 12/13/2010 3:51 PM:
> > Mike Viau:
> >>> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:46:59 +0100  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
> >>
> >> I don't understand the implied meaning of this error? Did you take any
> >> precautions as to the alignment of your partition? What about if you
> >> were planning on having multiple partitions?
> 
> >From the linux-ide mailing list April 2010:
> 
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ide/msg37306.html
> 
>  Unfortunately, sfdisk and cfdisk have no clue about alignment and
>  disks topology.
> 
>  Now only the fdisk and parted commands are ready for new disks.
> 
> 
> So the proper title of this thread should be:
> 
> "Does the Squeeze installer use fdisk or parted?"
> 
> As of April 2010, only fdisk and parted will create sector boundary
> aligned partitions on drives that internally translate from 4K to 512B
> sectors.
> 
> Linux typically reads 4K blocks.  With a translated drive, two or more
> 512 byte sectors of a given block may lie on opposite sides of a
> hardware 4K sector boundary.  Thus, Linux will have to read two
> consecutive hardware sectors instead of one in order to get the contents
> of the 4K logical block.  I.e. two reads (head seeks) per every 4k block
> instead of one.  Thus, you get half the performance vs a properly
> aligned cylinder.
> 
> In the case of the WD20EARS this will drop your peak sequential read
> rate from over 100 MB/s down to 50 MB/s or less.  Without proper
> alignment, you're literally leaving half of your drive's sequential read
> performance on the table.
> 
> The story is even worse for 4K random writes.  You'll drop your write
> performance by a factor of 4 or more if you don't have proper alignment:
> 
> The moral of the story is, use fdisk or parted and make sure your
> partitions are correctly aligned on 4KB boundaries.  If the Squeeze
> installer doesn't do so, I'd recommend booting an ISO or USB live distro
> and partition the drive with fdisk or parted before booting the Squeeze
> installer.

Hi Stan,

That is fascinating to learn, especially the fdisk
is among the best tools for disk partitioning.

I was going to ask about my disk, but I see that my message
is 

Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.

Which seems to be different than the OP's physical sector size
message.

If partition 1 is off, does that mean *all* partitions are
off? How does one verify? (I used MiniTool Partition Wizard
to shrink my laptop's Windows 7 partition, handling all the
magical, Linux-hating files -- MFT, etc.)

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

FWIW, my disk partitioning follows.

Thanks for posting this information!

Joel





Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x27b11b56

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1 154 12288007  HPFS/NTFS
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2 154474236860288+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda347435251 4088500   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda45252   38914   270398047+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda55252716315358108   83  Linux
/dev/sda67164   37638   244790404   83  Linux
/dev/sda7   37639   3891410247  HPFS/NTFS

 
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Re: rsync; Shouldn't Deleted Files be Deleted on the Backup?

2010-12-13 Thread Phil Requirements

On 2010-12-13 13:22:17 -0600, Martin McCormick wrote:
> Joao Ferreira gmail writes:
> > that is exactly what --delete does. I've been using it for some time and
> > it works just fine for me.
> 
> Problem is solved. If you have the b flag as one of your flags
> as in "backup," it apparently insures that once a file is there,
> it does not go away. This could be very useful in some
> situations, but this is not what I wanted right now so I took
> out the b flag and it now deletes any files in the copy that are
> no longer in the master.
> 

If you just quit the -b flag team, then you might want to come over to
the -a flag team. "-b" is for backup and "-a" is for archive. What's
the difference between a backup and an archive?, you might ask. Well,
the archive team has better jerseys.

For keeping a one to one copy of a file system, this rsync shortcut is
commonly thrown around:

rsync -av --del /source/path /destination/path

Just an idea,

Phil

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Re: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK prevents burning CDROM

2010-12-13 Thread Chris Bannister

Hi Ken,
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 03:21:11PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote:
> I assume that at some point during the burn process 'cdimage.raw' is
> created by wodim from the files selected for burning.  If it had been

wodim -v speed=2 dev=/dev/hda cdimage.raw

That is just an example. 
You need to replace cdimage.raw with the image you wish to burn to CD.

Change into the directory where the file you wish to burn is.
It will probably end in ".iso", say it is CD1.iso
It is easier to change to root.
Then issue:

r...@fischer:~# wodim -v speed=2 dev=/dev/hda CD1.iso

That should work, and hey! no KDE involved!

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Re: why my sound card doesn't work

2010-12-13 Thread Celejar

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 02:03:16 +
"Russell L. Harris"  wrote:

...

> I never have been able to get Intel integrated audio working under
> Linux.

My Intel integrated sound has always worked fine, right out of the box,
IIRC.  From 'lspci':

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio 
Controller (rev 02)

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Re: why my sound card doesn't work

2010-12-13 Thread Long Wind

Sorry, I'm wrong in saying "none of replies are brilliant"
At least shawn wilson suggest I install alsa player
Now I find the problem
When I play a mp3 file, alsaplayer says:

Failed to load output plugin "alsa". Trying defaults.
error opening /dev/dsp
Failed to initialize plugin!
/usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/liboss_out.so failed to load
NOTE: THIS IS THE NULL PLUGIN.  YOU WILL NOT HEAR SOUND!!


What should I do about it?


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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2010-12-13 Thread Stan Hoeppner

Jochen Schulz put forth on 12/13/2010 3:51 PM:
> Mike Viau:
>>> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:46:59 +0100  wrote:
>>>
>>> Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
>>
>> I don't understand the implied meaning of this error? Did you take any
>> precautions as to the alignment of your partition? What about if you
>> were planning on having multiple partitions?

>From the linux-ide mailing list April 2010:

http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ide/msg37306.html

 Unfortunately, sfdisk and cfdisk have no clue about alignment and
 disks topology.

 Now only the fdisk and parted commands are ready for new disks.

So the proper title of this thread should be:

"Does the Squeeze installer use fdisk or parted?"

As of April 2010, only fdisk and parted will create sector boundary
aligned partitions on drives that internally translate from 4K to 512B
sectors.

Linux typically reads 4K blocks.  With a translated drive, two or more
512 byte sectors of a given block may lie on opposite sides of a
hardware 4K sector boundary.  Thus, Linux will have to read two
consecutive hardware sectors instead of one in order to get the contents
of the 4K logical block.  I.e. two reads (head seeks) per every 4k block
instead of one.  Thus, you get half the performance vs a properly
aligned cylinder.

In the case of the WD20EARS this will drop your peak sequential read
rate from over 100 MB/s down to 50 MB/s or less.  Without proper
alignment, you're literally leaving half of your drive's sequential read
performance on the table.

The story is even worse for 4K random writes.  You'll drop your write
performance by a factor of 4 or more if you don't have proper alignment:

The moral of the story is, use fdisk or parted and make sure your
partitions are correctly aligned on 4KB boundaries.  If the Squeeze
installer doesn't do so, I'd recommend booting an ISO or USB live distro
and partition the drive with fdisk or parted before booting the Squeeze
installer.

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Re: Setting a default network cups printer [somewhat OT]

2010-12-13 Thread Wayne Topa

On 12/13/2010 05:13 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:14:34 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:

On 12/13/2010 02:06 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:12:58 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:

Does anyone know how to handle this _without_ root permissions?

I see there is an 'lp' group and user.

As per "man lpoptions":

***
FILES
~/.cups/lpoptions - user defaults and instances created by non-root
users.
/etc/cups/lpoptions - system-wide defaults and instances created by the
root user.
***

It seems from the lpoptions man page that the files you cite above are
created by the lpoptions command.

Mmm, no, I don't think so. Or at least I didn't get in that way.

What I understand from the man page is that those files need to be
manually created by the user or by root, not just by running the
command. I can be wrong, though.

{Quote}

ROOT ACCOUNT OPTIONS
When run by the root user, lpoptions gets and sets default options and
instances for all users in the /etc/cups/lpoptions
file.

{\Quote}

That is not so on my amd64 box. I
have partitions for stable/testing/sid and new-testing. None of them
have an /etc/cups/lpoptions file or any ~/.cups directories.

Mine neither :-). I think when someone sets the printer settings using
CUPS web interface, those values are stored somewhere, in another place.

I have looked through the docs and I have yet to find any mention on
what should be in the .cups/lpoptions files. I made .cups dirs for
root and myself put the output of lpoptions in a lpoptions file. That
does not help with my problem. I believe it will help the OP with his
though.

What was your problem? This is the first post I see from you in this
thread :-?

Cups interface at localhost:631 will not connect to any of the tabs
except Home and Online Help. All others say "500 Internal Server Error".

As this thread was about, yet another cups problem, and I had not
remembered running lpoptions before I decided to see if it would/could

assist me in solving problem.

OTOH, it is not very clear for me what is exact role of those files. If
we read this doc:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/database/cupsdocumentation

It says:

***
(...) Page-specific option settings cannot be set as default in the PPD
files, but they can be set by editing the ~/.cups/lpoptions or /etc/cups/
lpoptions files.
***

But does not say what to put in there or in what format.

I hoped that this thread might help in getting cups to work on the
stable/testing and sid partitions. Sadly it didn't. I have, however,
cups working on a lenny (from CD) to Testing partition which is better
then nothing.

Maybe if you explain what's wrong in your side, someone can help :-)

As a possible side note that may be of help to others having a similar
problem with cups. The 3 partitions that cups is not working on were
installed on the HD by a company that advertizes Debian / RedHat systems
installs. It turned out RedHat is what they know and I believe they
have something installed incorrectly for Debian. The only partition
that works correctly is the one I installed from Debian CD's. This drive
came with a system purchased 3-4 years ago.

Hope this might be of use to others.

I've never had any problem with CUPS, but true is that all the printers we
have at the office are very well supported by Linux (all are PostScript
or PCL6 based and using network adapters, just one of them is shared via
windows an using a samba backend), and still had not to play with
printers shared over a big network with VPN's or firewalls in between ;-)

I have only had a problem with cups on this AMD64 system. It was
working fine on an 586 box, which I have used for years, until it (the
586 system) died. The Printer is an HP6P which I have used on all my
Debian systems since 1994.

Wayne

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usb drive nolonger registers on one pc, still registers on another

2010-12-13 Thread Thomas H. George

A Toshiba usb hard drive previously registered with no difficulty on one
computer but still registers with no difficulty on a seconcd computer.
Both computers are using the Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 stock kernel but the
one with the problem was just updated and the one with no problem was
updated last August.

By failing to register I mean that when connected I get a continuing
series of messages like this:


Dec 13 16:54:21 dragon kernel: [ 3212.860525] usb 1-2: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 44
Dec 13 16:54:21 dragon kernel: [ 3213.008537] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate 
USB device on port 2
Dec 13 16:54:22 dragon kernel: [ 3213.276541] usb 1-2: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 45
Dec 13 16:54:22 dragon kernel: [ 3213.424534] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate 
USB device on port 2
Dec 13 16:54:22 dragon kernel: [ 3213.692026] usb 1-2: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 46
Dec 13 16:54:22 dragon kernel: [ 3213.840536] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate 
USB device on port 2
Dec 13 16:54:23 dragon kernel: [ 3214.112026] usb 1-2: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 47
Dec 13 16:54:23 dragon kernel: [ 3214.260048] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate 
USB device on port 2
Dec 13 16:54:23 dragon kernel: [ 3214.524030] usb 1-2: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 48
Dec 13 16:54:23 dragon kernel: [ 3214.672050] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate 
USB device on port 2

Has something changed in the kernel?  Or perhaps in some other software
as in each case the update was a full dist-upgrade?

Tom


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Re: [Fwd: Re: An Aptitude and Repository Question]

2010-12-13 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

Please don't top-post.  Interleaved style is preferred by many members.
Please trim quoted text.  In this context, most of the other members have 
already received the quoted text and minimal context is required.

I've tried to fix these issues below.

In <1292250768.2806.17.ca...@eren-deb64>, Debian TR wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:18:38 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>On Ma, 07 dec 10, 17:14:24, Debian TR wrote:
>>> I added tor project's and wine's repositories to my sources.list.
>>> 
>>> However, when I aptitude update and install tor/wine (even thuogh their
>>> versions are higher), aptitude tries to install them from debian
>>> repositories.
>>
>>Please post the full output of
>>
>>apt-cache policy
>>apt-cache policy tor
>>apt-cache policy wine

>On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 15:37 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> On Lu, 13 dec 10, 14:22:34, Debian TR wrote:
>> > Since there wasn't any reply so far, I didn't mark the mail as
>> > "solved".
>> > But, thanks anyway. I found a way to fix it.
>> 
>> Your fix might be useful for others if it's available in the
>> archives ;)
>
>I just read the man (apt_preferences) page :)
>
>Then, added the line below to /apt/preferences
>
>Package: tor
>Pin: origin "deb.torproject.org"
>Pin-Priority: 900
>
>I gave 900 since the testing repo, with the highest pin number, is also
>900, so aptitude automatically chooses the highest version. However,
>when I do "apt-get cache policy tor", it shows that torproject.org is
>still 500. Because aptitude installed the right version, it did not
>bother me much.

If you post the full output of (apt-cache policy) as Andrei requested, I'm 
sure someone can propose apt_preferences(5) stanzas that give you good 
results.
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Re: Frustration made me do it.


On 12/13/2010 11:34 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 12/13/2010 03:46 PM, godo wrote:

Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
Firefox4 also.
When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
URL feeld
"http://www.google.hr/search?q=debian&hl=hr&prmd=ivl&ei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6aYB&start=90&sa=N";
but "www.google.com/search"

I really hate that because 2 feature that i really love/need in any
browser are exact link location and pointing mouse over link printing
URL in browsers status bar.


in Opera 11 beta I see the complete URL at the bottom of opera..



Me to, that part of my comment was for Firefox4.

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Re: Frustration made me do it.

2010-12-13 Thread Paul Cartwright

On 12/13/2010 03:46 PM, godo wrote:
> Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
> Firefox4 also.
> When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
> URL feeld
> "http://www.google.hr/search?q=debian&hl=hr&prmd=ivl&ei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6aYB&start=90&sa=N";
> but "www.google.com/search"
> 
> I really hate that because 2 feature that i really love/need in any
> browser are exact link location and pointing mouse over link printing
> URL in browsers status bar.

in Opera 11 beta I see the complete URL at the bottom of opera..


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Re: why my sound card doesn't work

2010-12-13 Thread shawn wilson

> Perhaps I am getting lazy...

lazy people don't run debian
(k|ed)ubuntu are for the lazy people :)


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Re: Setting a default network cups printer [somewhat OT]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:14:34 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:

> On 12/13/2010 02:06 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:12:58 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know how to handle this _without_ root permissions?
>>>
>>> I see there is an 'lp' group and user.
>>
>> As per "man lpoptions":
>>
>> ***
>> FILES
>> ~/.cups/lpoptions - user defaults and instances created by non-root
>> users.
>> /etc/cups/lpoptions - system-wide defaults and instances created by the
>> root user.
>> ***
>>
>>
> It seems from the lpoptions man page that the files you cite above are
> created by the lpoptions command.  

Mmm, no, I don't think so. Or at least I didn't get in that way.

What I understand from the man page is that those files need to be 
manually created by the user or by root, not just by running the 
command. I can be wrong, though.

> That is not so on my amd64 box. I
> have partitions for stable/testing/sid and new-testing. None of them
> have an /etc/cups/lpoptions file or any ~/.cups directories.  

Mine neither :-). I think when someone sets the printer settings using 
CUPS web interface, those values are stored somewhere, in another place.

> I have looked through the docs and I have yet to find any mention on
> what should be in the .cups/lpoptions files.  I made .cups dirs for
> root and myself put the output of lpoptions in a lpoptions file. That
> does not help with my problem.  I believe it will help the OP with his
> though.

What was your problem? This is the first post I see from you in this 
thread :-?

OTOH, it is not very clear for me what is exact role of those files. If 
we read this doc:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/database/cupsdocumentation

It says:

***
(...) Page-specific option settings cannot be set as default in the PPD 
files, but they can be set by editing the ~/.cups/lpoptions or /etc/cups/
lpoptions files.
***

But does not say what to put in there or in what format.
 
> I hoped that this thread might help in getting cups to work on the
> stable/testing and sid partitions.  Sadly it didn't.  I have, however,
> cups working on a lenny (from CD) to Testing partition which is better
> then nothing.

Maybe if you explain what's wrong in your side, someone can help :-)
 
> As a possible side note that may be of help to others having a similar
> problem with cups.  The 3 partitions that cups is not working on were
> installed on the HD by a company that advertizes Debian / RedHat systems
> installs.  It turned out RedHat is what they know and I believe they
> have something installed incorrectly for Debian.  The only partition
> that works correctly is the one I installed from Debian CD's. This drive
> came with a system purchased 3-4 years ago.
> 
> Hope this might be of use to others.

I've never had any problem with CUPS, but true is that all the printers we 
have at the office are very well supported by Linux (all are PostScript 
or PCL6 based and using network adapters, just one of them is shared via 
windows an using a samba backend), and still had not to play with 
printers shared over a big network with VPN's or firewalls in between ;-)

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Re: Frustration made me do it.




Strange, in Opera 10.63 I get the full URL in the address bar; and, if I
hover the mouse pointer over the link, I also get the full URL in the
status bar at the bottom of the screen.

Is there a change in Opera 11?



Yes, I have 11.0 beta:
Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.7.39 Version/11.00

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Re: why my sound card doesn't work

2010-12-13 Thread Russell L. Harris

* deloptes  [101213 20:42]:
> Long Wind wrote:
> 
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM
> > AC'97 Audio (rev 12)
> 
> this is a straight forward intel audio card based on ac97
> 
> run
> 
> amixer | grep -i off
> 
> and you'll see what's muted - I bet it's the problem you are facing
> 
> also it's usually better reading instead asking, as we've discussed audio
> issues many many times and there are straight forward actions to report the
> status of your system.
> 
> aplay -l
> aplay -L  
> 
> /proc/asound/*
> 
> etc
> 
> regards

Thanks.  I know about aplay -l/-L, and I know about amixer and muting
and alsaconf.  (I have been running Debian for ten years now, starting
with Potato.)  But typically whatever sound card is on-board is not
listed.

Perhaps I am getting lazy, but my time for diagnositics is limited,
and USB sound works.

Regards,

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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2010-12-13 Thread Jochen Schulz

Mike Viau:
>> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:46:59 +0100  wrote:
>> 
>> Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
>
> I don't understand the implied meaning of this error? Did you take any
> precautions as to the alignment of your partition? What about if you
> were planning on having multiple partitions?

The error says that the partition is not aligned to the physical sector
size which presumably incurs a performance penalty. When setting things
up, I chose not to care about that (didn't remember seeing such a
warning either).

>> I don't have a serious performance issue, though. There's an encrypted
>> LVM volume on top of it and throughput is limited by the CPU (Atom D510)
>> at about 20-25MByte/s. An unencrypted volume I just created for this
>> test yields 72MByte/s write and 98MByte/s read throughput on the RAID.
> 
> That sounds decent,

ACK, I would just expect better read performance because of the
striping, but I don't really know much about RAIDs (it's my first) and I
mostly used the default settings.

> how are you achieving RAID 1 over 0 (10) though with three drives?

You can create RAID10 with three disks using mdadm. It's not exactly the
same as RAID1 over RAID0:

https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Introduction#RAID-10

>> Just out of curiosity, I will try reformatting the drives and see
>> whether the results for unencrypted access change.

I just removed one of the WD10EARs from the RAID and used parted to
partition it:

(parted) print
Model: ATA WDC WD10EARS-22Y (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 1953525168s
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: gpt

Number  Start  End  Size File system  Name Flags
 1  2048s  1953118384s  1953116337s   primary

But now mdadm complains when re-adding the drive:

jigsaw kernel: [273468.958063] md: bind
jigsaw kernel: [273468.986186] md0: Warning: Device sdc1 is misaligned

Recovery speed appears to be the same as before, as far as I can
remember (after 16% of 1TB at 39MByte/s). Still not bad. The 72MB/s from
above were just a short test writing 500MB (including sync).

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Re: Frustration made me do it.

2010-12-13 Thread Tixy

On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:46 +0100, godo wrote: 
> Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in 
> Firefox4 also.
> When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in 
> URL feeld 
> "http://www.google.hr/search?q=debian&hl=hr&prmd=ivl&ei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6aYB&start=90&sa=N";
>  
> but "www.google.com/search"

Strange, in Opera 10.63 I get the full URL in the address bar; and, if I
hover the mouse pointer over the link, I also get the full URL in the
status bar at the bottom of the screen.

Is there a change in Opera 11?


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Re: openssl chat

2010-12-13 Thread Bob Proulx

S Mathias wrote:
> i can use "natively" openssl for anonymous chat: 

Yes.  But it just connects your keyboard and handles the ssl
encryption part.  It doesn't really know about the chat protocol.

> # Chat: 
> # server side:
> openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:8192 -keyout mycert.pem -out 
> mycert.pem
> 
> # server side - generate a self-signed cert.
> openssl s_server -accept 52310 -cert mycert.pem
> 
> # client side - "127.0.0.1" is the IP of the server
> openssl s_client -connect 127.0.0.1:52310
> 
> 1) but how can i set it to require username/password? it would be a
> great chat tool

That would be within the realm of a chat client.  Using the openssl
program like that is rather like using telnet to connect to the smtp
port to send email.  It can do it as long as you type in all of the
right commands but that isn't the intended purpose.

> 2) how can i transfer files with openssl? [again: with username/password?]

Your best direction is to use a chat client that has been written to
those things.

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Re: partially broken internet connection

2010-12-13 Thread Steven

I'll answer myself a bit, but this leaves me puzzled even more.

On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:06 +0100, Steven wrote: 
> Hi list,
> 
> (Might be unrelated) Yesterday I configured some extra rules on my
> gateway box (Debian Etch) to slow down traffic from a particular part of
> the network. It started at that time.

It seems that this is in fact related to the issues I'm having.

After a reboot of the gateway box, the sites work again (haven't tested
them all, just 2), as soon as I enable a particular tc filter, things go
wrong, until I reboot the gateway again.

After reboot(also runs the firewall script):
debian:/home/steven# tc qdisc show
qdisc cbq 11: dev eth2 rate 10Kbit (bounded,isolated) prio
no-transmit
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth3 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev ppp0 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev tun0 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1

After running the firewall script without rebooting:
debian:/home/steven# tc qdisc show
qdisc cbq 11: dev eth2 rate 10Kbit (bounded,isolated) prio
no-transmit
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth3 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev tun0 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1
qdisc cbq 10: dev ppp0 rate 10Kbit (bounded,isolated) prio
no-transmit


The applied rules in question are the following:
# Download marking
tc qdisc add dev eth2:0 root handle 11: cbq bandwidth 100Mbit avpkt 1000
mpu 64
tc class add dev eth2:0 parent 11: classid 11:1 cbq rate 200Kbit weight
50Kbit allot 1514 prio 1 avpkt 1000 bounded
tc filter add dev eth2:0 parent 11: protocol ip handle 4 fw flowid 11:1

# Upload marking
tc qdisc add dev ppp0 root handle 10: cbq bandwidth 100Mbit avpkt 1000
mpu 64
tc class add dev ppp0 parent 10: classid 10:1 cbq rate 25KBit weight
4Kbit allot 1514 prio 1 avpkt 1000 bounded
tc filter add dev ppp0 parent 10: protocol ip handle 3 fw flowid 10:1

# Upload rules
iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -s 192.168.5.0/24 -j MARK --set-mark 3

# Download rules
iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -d 192.168.5.0/24 -j MARK --set-mark 4

The affected network however is on subnet 10.0.0./24 so these filters
wouldn't apply to it.


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Re: Setting a default network cups printer [somewhat OT]

2010-12-13 Thread Wayne Topa


On 12/13/2010 02:06 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:12:58 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 02:22:39PM +, Camale??n wrote:


(...)


I always set the default printer from CUPS web interface and IIRC, you
need the root password for "delicate" tasks (like adding a new printer
or setting the default one). So, I guess these actions are kept as the
"default" (system wide settings) :-?


Does anyone know how to handle this _without_ root permissions?

I see there is an 'lp' group and user.


As per "man lpoptions":

***
FILES
~/.cups/lpoptions - user defaults and instances created by non-root
users.
/etc/cups/lpoptions - system-wide defaults and instances created by the
root user.
***



It seems from the lpoptions man page that the files you cite above are 
created by the lpoptions command.  That is not so on my amd64 box. I 
have partitions for stable/testing/sid and new-testing. None of them 
have an /etc/cups/lpoptions file or any ~/.cups directories.  I have 
looked through the docs and I have yet to find any mention on what 
should be in the .cups/lpoptions files.  I made .cups dirs for root and
myself put the output of lpoptions in a lpoptions file. That does not 
help with my problem.  I believe it will help the OP with his though.


I hoped that this thread might help in getting cups to work on the 
stable/testing and sid partitions.  Sadly it didn't.  I have, however, 
cups working on a lenny (from CD) to Testing partition which is better 
then nothing.


As a possible side note that may be of help to others having a similar 
problem with cups.  The 3 partitions that cups is not working on were 
installed on the HD by a company that advertizes Debian / RedHat systems 
installs.  It turned out RedHat is what they know and I believe
they have something installed incorrectly for Debian.  The only 
partition that works correctly is the one I installed from Debian CD's.

This drive came with a system purchased 3-4 years ago.

Hope this might be of use to others.

Wayne


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Re: Frustration made me do it.




Linux Desktop Enviroments need to stop trying to compete to impress
microsoft users and N00b's and stick to what Linux is all about,
clean, efficient, FAST! If people really feel they NEED desktop
widgets either make it add on software or make a third party desktop
environment based off the main environment. The way it is now KDE and
Gnome, the two biggest are competing for 'most bloat award' and the
sleek fast environments like lxde are basing their systems off the
giants so all the real customization of the past is just plain
gone...

STOP LETTING N00b's DEFINE OUR OS!

Okay, I'm done...



Sadly, that's  quite true.
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Re: Setting a default network cups printer

2010-12-13 Thread Joel Roth

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 02:17:42PM -0500, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
> On 12/13/2010 01:12 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
> >Does anyone know how to handle this _without_ root
> >permissions?
> >
> >I see there is an 'lp' group and user.
> 
> Within the narrow context of this question I believe you can add any
> regular user to the lpadmin group to give that user permissions to
> configure printers through the CUPS Web interface. Having done this
> on my systems allows me to use that interface for adding / removing
> / configuring printers through that interface using only my normal
> user name and password.
 
> Is that what you were asking about?

Yes, and I've verified that belonging to lpadmin group
enables administration via CUPS web interface using
regular user credentials.

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RE: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2010-12-13 Thread Mike Viau


> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:46:59 +0100  wrote:
> >
> > I'm planning to surprise my unsuspecting self with the above hard
> > drive for Christmas, but have read some alarming reports about
> > incompatibilities with GNU/Linux partitioning. Apparently, there are
> > no less than two distinct problems with these drivers:
>
> I am running squeeze with two WD10EARS drives (plus another different
> drive) in a RAID10. When setting things up, I decided to ignore this
> issue completely because I thought the tools would do the right thing
> automatically. Apparently, they don't, although the drive reports its
> correct physical sector size:
>
> # fdisk -ul /dev/sdc
>
> Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/sdc1 63 1953118439 976559188+ da Non-FS data
> Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
>
>

I don't understand the implied meaning of this error? Did you take any 
precautions as to the alignment of your partition? What about if you were 
planning on having multiple partitions?


> I don't have a serious performance issue, though. There's an encrypted
> LVM volume on top of it and throughput is limited by the CPU (Atom D510)
> at about 20-25MByte/s. An unencrypted volume I just created for this
> test yields 72MByte/s write and 98MByte/s read throughput on the RAID.
>

That sounds decent, how are you achieving RAID 1 over 0 (10) though with three 
drives? Perhaps that is another topic, but I typically see transfer rates of 
~100MB/s give or take from a single modern SATA drive.

> Just out of curiosity, I will try reformatting the drives and see
> whether the results for unencrypted access change. I am just not sure
> whether I would have to tweak RAID and/or LVM parameters as well. That
> wouldn't be that easy to pull off.
>
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Re: Frustration made me do it.




what about Opera.. just asking :)


Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in 
Firefox4 also.
When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in 
URL feeld 
"http://www.google.hr/search?q=debian&hl=hr&prmd=ivl&ei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6aYB&start=90&sa=N"; 
but "www.google.com/search"


I really hate that because 2 feature that i really love/need in any 
browser are exact link location and pointing mouse over link printing 
URL in browsers status bar.


Firefox4 will "mouse over link" print next to real URL (in URL field) 
and not in status bar and that's really sucks if you don’t have 24" monitor.

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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2010-12-13 Thread Jochen Schulz

Klistvud:
> 
> I'm planning to surprise my unsuspecting self with the above hard
> drive for Christmas, but have read some alarming reports about
> incompatibilities with GNU/Linux partitioning. Apparently, there are
> no less than two distinct problems with these drivers:

I am running squeeze with two WD10EARS drives (plus another different
drive) in a RAID10. When setting things up, I decided to ignore this
issue completely because I thought the tools would do the right thing
automatically. Apparently, they don't, although the drive reports its
correct physical sector size:

# fdisk -ul /dev/sdc

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1  63  1953118439   976559188+  da  Non-FS data
Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.


I don't have a serious performance issue, though. There's an encrypted
LVM volume on top of it and throughput is limited by the CPU (Atom D510)
at about 20-25MByte/s. An unencrypted volume I just created for this
test yields 72MByte/s write and 98MByte/s read throughput on the RAID.

Just out of curiosity, I will try reformatting the drives and see
whether the results for unencrypted access change. I am just not sure
whether I would have to tweak RAID and/or LVM parameters as well. That
wouldn't be that easy to pull off.

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Re: why my sound card doesn't work

2010-12-13 Thread deloptes

Long Wind wrote:

> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM
> AC'97 Audio (rev 12)

this is a straight forward intel audio card based on ac97

run

amixer | grep -i off

and you'll see what's muted - I bet it's the problem you are facing

also it's usually better reading instead asking, as we've discussed audio
issues many many times and there are straight forward actions to report the
status of your system.

aplay -l
aplay -L  

/proc/asound/*

etc

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Re: Mozilla products in Debian

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 19:57:50, Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 05 December 2010 15:32:17 Camaleón wrote:
> > On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:14:12 +, Lisi wrote:
> > >
> > > I have Lenny, and Iceweasel 3.5.15.  Any updating has been done by
> > > aptitude.
> >
> > Then you should have "backports" repository enabled ;-)
> 
> :-/
> 
> I was under the (mis?)apprehension that things were only installed from 
> backports if I specifically asked for them, i.e. "-t lenny-backports" was 
> added to aptitude, and were only updated if already installed.

'apt-cache policy iceweasel' should tell you/us more.

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Re: USB soundbar as default audio device

2010-12-13 Thread Russell L. Harris

* deloptes  [101213 20:28]:
> Chris Jones wrote:
> > Maybe I should send it back & use the compatiblity lists to
> > try and get something that's supported out of the box.

Consider a Lexicon Alpha (US$60) or Lexicon Omega (US$180).  See
broadcast suppliers such as www.bswusa.com or www.fullcompass.com.

Typically the only configuration needed is a simple .asoundrc file such as the
following:

pcm.!default {
type hw
card Omega
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card Omega
}

RLH

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 13:20:41, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote: 
> > Are you sure it isn't just setting the user's TZ variable?  IMHO the
> > correct default for that should be null so that system time gets used.
> 
> Andrei Popescu writes:
> > I don't agree. The default should be the default time zone for the
> > system (which is usually based on the country/area selected during
> > install).
> 
> If the user's TZ is null the system zone is what he will get.

I think we only disagree on terminology ;) As far as I know "system 
time" is always UTC on a Linux system[1], which is then converted to 
local time as needed.

[1] assuming it is accurate, of course

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Re: setting up a network printer

2010-12-13 Thread deloptes

Paul Cartwright wrote:

> On 12/11/2010 11:25 AM, Simon Hollenbach wrote:
>>>
>>
hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b8_82c_W57P10707310003510_if1_printer_noserial
>> 
>>> DeviceURI
>>>
>>
hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b8_82c_W57P10707310003510_if1_printer_noserial
>> 
>>> DeviceURI hp:/usb/Officejet_5600_series?serial=CN58BCF21H04CY
>>> DeviceURI hpfax:/usb/Officejet_5600_series?serial=CN58BCF21H04CY
>> 
>> Sorry Paul, but i dont get how your posting makes my statement false.
>> Here we see the usage of another two helper protocols at DeviceURI,
>> namely hal and hpfax. Im staying at my opinion that a network-attached
>> printer would make an IP show up under DeviceURI, whereas other link
>> ways lead to a workaround, a 'virtual print server', a very basic one of
>> course. Correct me if thats bogus...
> ah, you are right, I missed the hp:/par/... mine says hp:/usb, now I see
> the difference:) that's what I get for replying before my 2nd cup of
> coffee:)
> 
> 

I'm not 100% sure this was the solution in my case, but I remember my
printer was not accessible over the network, because recent configuration
of cupsd needed 

ServerAlias *

to accept connections from anything different than 127.0.0.1

after adding this line it was fine

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Re: why my sound card doesn't work

2010-12-13 Thread Russell L. Harris

* Klistvud  [101213 20:07]:
> Dne, 13. 12. 2010 03:03:16 je Russell L. Harris napisal(a):
> >I never have been able to get Intel integrated audio working under
> >Linux.
> 
> Would that be something like this:
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6  
> Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) ?
> 
> Working out of the box, and seamlessly, on my P4 Lenny system.

I have experienced problems with a variety of Intel (845 & 865) and
Asus motherboards.

Prior to my discovery of USB sound, I would simply install a clone
sound card, then sound would work.  But the Lexicon external USB card
is much more versatile.  

My conclusion is that life is too short (and USB sound is too
inexpensive) for me to continue to mess around with on-the-motherboard
sound.

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Re: USB soundbar as default audio device

2010-12-13 Thread deloptes

Chris Jones wrote:

>> > input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [HOLTEK  AudioHub Speaker] on
>> > usb-:00:07.2-1.4.4 usb 1-1.4.4: New USB device found,
>> > idVendor=046d, idProduct=0a0e usb 1-1.4.4: New USB device strings:
>> > Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 1-1.4.4: Product: AudioHub Speaker
>> > usb 1-1.4.4: Manufacturer: HOLTEK
>> > 
>> > Not much that looks like a reference to a chip, at least to my
>> > uneducated eyes. As you notice the device doubles as a USB hub.
> 
> > I couldn't find information about the chip or even if the card is
>> supported
>> 
>> http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
> 
> According to the above, HOLTEK aren't even supposed to make USB audio
> stuff.. :-) Maybe I should send it back & use the compatiblity lists to
> try and get something that's supported out of the box.

I would suggest to ask or to look into the development branches of the linux
kernel or ask the kernel usb audio developers. It might be that they need
to add just the id to the code to get support for it.If you have some C
programming skills you even can try hacking it yourself.

Another option and I think here the problem is that alsa is not working for
this device - thus the system recognizes it but can not associate it with a
driver (snd-usb-audio).

especially this link sound like your problem

http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1472852.html

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Re: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK prevents burning CDROM

2010-12-13 Thread Ken Heard

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> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:25:34 -0500, Ken Heard wrote:
> 
>> SOL:~# wodim -v speed=2 dev=/dev/hda cdimage.raw
> . . . 
>> wodim: No such file or directory. Cannot open 'cdimage.raw'.
> 
> Are you sure the file you are buring, 'cdimage.raw', is there on cwd?

I assume that at some point during the burn process 'cdimage.raw' is
created by wodim from the files selected for burning.  If it had been
created in this way it certainly did not exist after K3B was closed, as
I never save these files on closing.  I suppose it is even possible that
for some reason it never got created.  In the KDE window the last entry
said something to the effect that there inadequate permission to execute
the second-to-last step in the process, actually burning the CD.  What
the debug file showed I quoted in my first post.

Ken

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Re: Mozilla products in Debian

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:57:50 +, Lisi wrote:

> On Sunday 05 December 2010 15:32:17 Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:14:12 +, Lisi wrote:
>> > On Sunday 07 November 2010 23:24:17 Camaleón wrote:
>> >> - What is the current status of Iceweasel in Lenny? - Are all the
>> >> recent bugs of Firefox -that can affect 3.0 branch- fixed/
>> >> backported to Iceweasel 3.0.6?
>> >> - Does 3.0.6 versioning number follow the upstream numbering?
>> >
>> > I have Lenny, and Iceweasel 3.5.15.  Any updating has been done by
>> > aptitude.
>>
>> Then you should have "backports" repository enabled ;-)
> 
> :-/
> 
> I was under the (mis?)apprehension that things were only installed from
> backports if I specifically asked for them, i.e. "-t lenny-backports"
> was added to aptitude, and were only updated if already installed.

Iceweasel 3.5.x is only available for Lenny by means of the "backports" 
repo so... could it be that you installed that way and then forgot it or 
maybe you tweaked the backports repo pinning settings under your "/etc/
apt/preferences" file? :-?

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partially broken internet connection

2010-12-13 Thread Steven

Hi list,

(Might be unrelated) Yesterday I configured some extra rules on my
gateway box (Debian Etch) to slow down traffic from a particular part of
the network. It started at that time.

The new rules work and speedtest.net showed correct results from both
network segments. However from that moment on (more than 24 hours ago)
some internet pages had trouble loading. The website from my ISP still
works fine, as do most other.
Some sites however don't seem to load anything more than the title and
the favicon, this is happening for all machines on the 'fast' segment
(haven't tested others) and in about every flavor of browser.
Sites that don't load include slashdot.org, linuxtoday.com and
speedtest.net.

Running wireshark on the client machine shows that the page content
(html) is received, but in the browser, the page stays completely empty.

Any suggestions? Ideas?
The limiting is done using tc and iptables, but as I said, seems to work
correctly.

Kind regards,
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Re: xserver-testing issues.

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:42:05 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:

(...)

>> Now in the form:
>> 
>> #keyboard.conf
>> XKBMODEL="pc105"
>> XKBLAYOUT="us,de"
>> XKBVARIANT="winkeys"
>> XKBOPTIONS="grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
>> 
>> Don't forget to remove (or comment #) the old settings from your
>> "xorg.conf" so they don't collide.
> 
> I use only several packages from testing - some of: xserver, alsa,
> kernel - all in attempt to solve my sound/keyboard/3D -problems.

The mix of those packages (mostly "kernel" and "xserver" packages) can be 
also the cause of unexpected problems. 

> Still keyboard does not work correctly - mainly,
> delete/control/alt/cursor - keys.
> 
> Having removed the doubled strings in both files - keyboard stopped
> switching layouts - only the led turning on/off remained.

As you are using the same kernel and xorg packages than squeeze, you now 
have to play the same way squeeze does (or at least that seems to be the 
most logical approach). Squeeze does not need to use a "/etc/X11/
xorg.conf" file at all, neither for managing the keyboard settings nor 
for display: nowadays all this stuff has to be automatically configured 
and setup by Xorg.

If you are having issues with your keyboard layout, first place to look 
is at your Xorg log (/var/log/xorg.0.log) and search for any warnings.

If there are no evident clues, you can also try to configure your 
keyboard by using your DE tools (GNOME and KDE both have nice tools for 
setting up the keyboard layout options and the the behavior of the rest 
of the compose keys -like alt, windows key or control-).

Your last resort is manually editing and adjust the "/etc/default/
keyboard" file, starting first with a minimal/basic file and then adding 
the required tweaks.

>> You have to run "aplay -l", it should display the all your outputs, for
>> example:
> 
> After I have install the very same kernel (version) from testing (before
> was from backports) - I have seen the card devices again and made them
> working w/ the following:
> 
> $ cat .asoundrc
> # ALSA library configuration file
> 
> # Include settings that are under the control of asoundconf(1). # (To
> disable these settings, comment out this line.)
> 
> pcm.!default {
> type hw
> card 1
> }
> 
> ctl.!default {
> type hw
> card 1
> }
> 
> Now, it seems that the card is not fully represented in alsamixer - very
> few controls are there. Also, PCM control does not work - though is
> present there.
> 
> $ aplay -L

(...)

> Changing to
> 
> pcm.!default:SB
> 
> or
> 
> pcm.!default:Intel
> 
> gave me:
> /
> ALSA lib conf.c:1661:(snd_config_load1) _toplevel_:12:14:Unexpected char
> ALSA lib conf.c:3441:(snd_config_hook_load) /home/rock/.asoundrc may be
> old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it ALSA lib
> conf.c:3302:(snd_config_hooks_call) function snd_config_hook_load
> returned error: Invalid argument ALSA lib
> conf.c:3687:(snd_config_update_r) hooks failed, removing configuration
> cannot open mixer: Invalid argument

Then remove that file and let's try another thing. What gives you "cat /
proc/asound/modules"?

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Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-12-13 Thread Lisi

On Sunday 05 December 2010 15:32:17 Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:14:12 +, Lisi wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 November 2010 23:24:17 Camaleón wrote:
> >> - What is the current status of Iceweasel in Lenny? - Are all the
> >> recent bugs of Firefox -that can affect 3.0 branch- fixed/ backported
> >> to Iceweasel 3.0.6?
> >> - Does 3.0.6 versioning number follow the upstream numbering?
> >
> > I have Lenny, and Iceweasel 3.5.15.  Any updating has been done by
> > aptitude.
>
> Then you should have "backports" repository enabled ;-)

:-/

I was under the (mis?)apprehension that things were only installed from 
backports if I specifically asked for them, i.e. "-t lenny-backports" was 
added to aptitude, and were only updated if already installed.

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Re: rsync; Shouldn't Deleted Files be Deleted on the Backup?

2010-12-13 Thread Martin McCormick

Joao Ferreira gmail writes:
> that is exactly what --delete does. I've been using it for some time and
> it works just fine for me.
> 
> are you sure it is not working ? that is strange...

I am not sure what is happening yet but now that I know
it should work, I will se if I am not grouping flags together in
some way as to negate --delete. Thanks very much.

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread John Hasler

I wrote: 
> Are you sure it isn't just setting the user's TZ variable?  IMHO the
> correct default for that should be null so that system time gets used.

Andrei Popescu writes:
> I don't agree. The default should be the default time zone for the
> system (which is usually based on the country/area selected during
> install).

If the user's TZ is null the system zone is what he will get.
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Re: Setting a default network cups printer

2010-12-13 Thread T o n g

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:22:39 +, Camaleón wrote:

>> Anyone know how I can get rid of this lpoptions default printer and use
>> system default?
> 
> Hum... I'm not sure what do you mean here by "system default" :-)

Hi Camaleón, thanks for your reply in other message. I did 

 rm ~/.cups/lpoptions

and am able to use whatever default system printer lpadmin designated.

>>> But using CUPS web interface and set the default printer from there
>>> should have the same effect. Didn't that work for you? :-?
>> 
>> That's the first thing that I tried. but I got a 404 forbidden. Tried
>> twice then gave up.
> 
> You should investigate that point further, it is important to have a
> working CUPS web interface as most of the common task rely on it.

I guess I got, as David pointed out, 403 "Forbidden". But that's only for 
setting the default printer via the CUPS web interface. Other things, eg, 
adding a printer, work fine. 

Since everything is working fine for me now. I'll move onto other things 
from now. 

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Re: rsync; Shouldn't Deleted Files be Deleted on the Backup?

2010-12-13 Thread Martin McCormick

Joao Ferreira gmail writes:
> that is exactly what --delete does. I've been using it for some time and
> it works just fine for me.

Problem is solved. If you have the b flag as one of your flags
as in "backup," it apparently insures that once a file is there,
it does not go away. This could be very useful in some
situations, but this is not what I wanted right now so I took
out the b flag and it now deletes any files in the copy that are
no longer in the master.

Thanks for your help.

Martin

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Re: Setting a default network cups printer

2010-12-13 Thread Gilbert Sullivan


On 12/13/2010 01:12 PM, Joel Roth wrote:

Does anyone know how to handle this _without_ root
permissions?

I see there is an 'lp' group and user.


Within the narrow context of this question I believe you can add any 
regular user to the lpadmin group to give that user permissions to 
configure printers through the CUPS Web interface. Having done this on 
my systems allows me to use that interface for adding / removing / 
configuring printers through that interface using only my normal user 
name and password.


Is that what you were asking about?


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Re: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK prevents burning CDROM

2010-12-13 Thread T o n g

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:25:34 -0500, Ken Heard wrote:

> SOL:~# wodim -v speed=2 dev=/dev/hda cdimage.raw
. . . 
> wodim: No such file or directory. Cannot open 'cdimage.raw'.

Are you sure the file you are buring, 'cdimage.raw', is there on cwd?


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Re: Setting a default network cups printer

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:12:58 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 02:22:39PM +, Camale??n wrote:

(...)

>> I always set the default printer from CUPS web interface and IIRC, you
>> need the root password for "delicate" tasks (like adding a new printer
>> or setting the default one). So, I guess these actions are kept as the
>> "default" (system wide settings) :-?
> 
> Does anyone know how to handle this _without_ root permissions?
> 
> I see there is an 'lp' group and user.

As per "man lpoptions":

***
FILES
~/.cups/lpoptions - user defaults and instances created by non-root 
users. 
/etc/cups/lpoptions - system-wide defaults and instances created by the 
root user.
***

Maybe you can try by tweaking things in each "~/.cups/lpoptions" user 
file :-?

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Re: rsync; Shouldn't Deleted Files be Deleted on the Backup?

2010-12-13 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail

On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 12:09 -0600, Martin McCormick wrote:
> I really like rsync but I have something set wrong. It copys the
> file system perfectly but if I delete a file on the master, I
> really want it to delete on the backup system.
> 
> I tried --delete, --delete-during and --delete-after with no
> effect.
> 
>   Can I do the incremental backup that effects only the
> changed files and have it remove those files that exist on the
> copy but no longer exist on the master?

that is exactly what --delete does. I've been using it for some time and
it works just fine for me.

are you sure it is not working ? that is strange...

Joao


> 
>   Thank you.
> 
> Martin McCormick
> 
> 



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rsync; Shouldn't Deleted Files be Deleted on the Backup?

2010-12-13 Thread Martin McCormick

I really like rsync but I have something set wrong. It copys the
file system perfectly but if I delete a file on the master, I
really want it to delete on the backup system.

I tried --delete, --delete-during and --delete-after with no
effect.

Can I do the incremental backup that effects only the
changed files and have it remove those files that exist on the
copy but no longer exist on the master?

Thank you.

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread John Hasler

Geronimo writes:
> ...where after a gnome installation utc is set to true and after a kde
> installation utc is set to false.

IMHO neither package should touch /etc/default/rcS.
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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 11:35:41, John Hasler wrote:
> Geronimo writes:
> > No, I refer to the kde settings dialog, where all desktop-settings can
> > be changed. The same configuration page is accessible from the clock
> > in the destop-bar.
> 
> These are per-user settings, then?  Such a thing certainly should not be
> touching the system configuration.  Are you sure it isn't just setting
> the user's TZ variable?  IMHO the correct default for that should be
> null so that system time gets used.

I don't agree. The default should be the default time zone for the 
system (which is usually based on the country/area selected during 
install).

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Re: Setting a default network cups printer

2010-12-13 Thread Joel Roth

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 02:22:39PM +, Camale??n wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:30:06 +, T o n g wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:59:10 +, Camaleón wrote:
> > 
> >> Hum, indeed, that is the command suggested by CUPS for setting the
> >> default printer:
> >> 
> >> ***
> >> http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/options.html
> >> 
> >> Setting the Default Printer
> >> 
> >> If you normally use a particular printer, you can tell CUPS to use it
> >> by default using the lpoptions(1) command:
> >> 
> >> lpoptions -d printer
> > 
> > Anyone know how I can get rid of this lpoptions default printer and use
> > system default?
 
> Hum... I'm not sure what do you mean here by "system default" :-)
 
> I always set the default printer from CUPS web interface and IIRC, you 
> need the root password for "delicate" tasks (like adding a new printer or 
> setting the default one). So, I guess these actions are kept as the 
> "default" (system wide settings) :-?

Does anyone know how to handle this _without_ root
permissions?

I see there is an 'lp' group and user. 

> >> But using CUPS web interface and set the default printer from there
> >> should have the same effect. Didn't that work for you? :-?
> > 
> > That's the first thing that I tried. but I got a 404 forbidden. Tried
> > twice then gave up.
> 
> You should investigate that point further, it is important to have a 
> working CUPS web interface as most of the common task rely on it.
> 
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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread John Hasler

Geronimo writes:
> No, I refer to the kde settings dialog, where all desktop-settings can
> be changed. The same configuration page is accessible from the clock
> in the destop-bar.

These are per-user settings, then?  Such a thing certainly should not be
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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 18:14:48, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 13. 12. 2010 17:56:30 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a):
> >Every time I experimented with two-pane file managers I kept
> >coming back
> >to Tux Commander (package tuxcmd). While it does have it's quirks
> >it is
> >closest to the habits I acquired on Windows using Windows/Total
> >Commander.
> 
> Oh, the woes of us former Windows users ... It's a real pity Total
> Commander isn't free software.

I would even settle for a Linux version if properly packaged for Debian. 
After all, I did trust Mr. Ghisler with my files for many years and I 
would again if I had to use Windows. Given the reasonable one-time 
licence fee I would even consider buying it!

> As you say, none of the two-pane file
> managers comes close. I use gnome-commander, and mc for the console,
> and will also try out tuxcmd now that you suggested it.

An I'm giving gnome-commander another try. The first thing I noticed is 
that it doesn't have a keyboard shortcut for toggling show hidden files 
and you can't chose what columns (not) to show.

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread shawn wilson

> @Carl Johnson:
>> I agree, but you might want to look into qalculate as a substitute.
>
> Ok, that's a really big calculator. But its no substitute for me.
> What I need most, is conversion between dec/hex/oct/binary - and that
> conversion is very handy with KCalc.
>
... you mean like bc's hex(), oct(), dec(), bin() functions?

(yeah, a gui is just for keeping multiple consoles in one screen for
me - like a fancy splitvt :P )


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2010-12-13 Thread Affordable Health


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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

Am Montag, 13. Dezember 2010, 17:56:30 schrieb Andrei Popescu:
> Every time I experimented with two-pane file managers I kept coming ...

Two-panel  ;>

I usually have about 20 panels (10 each side) and the most attractive feature: 
every action works without touching the mouse - I'm very keyboard centric ;)

But I will give tuxcmd a try.

@Carl Johnson:
> I agree, but you might want to look into qalculate as a substitute.

Ok, that's a really big calculator. But its no substitute for me.
What I need most, is conversion between dec/hex/oct/binary - and that 
conversion is very handy with KCalc.


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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)


Dne, 13. 12. 2010 17:56:30 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a):
Every time I experimented with two-pane file managers I kept coming  
back
to Tux Commander (package tuxcmd). While it does have it's quirks it  
is

closest to the habits I acquired on Windows using Windows/Total
Commander.


Oh, the woes of us former Windows users ... It's a real pity Total  
Commander isn't free software. As you say, none of the two-pane file  
managers comes close. I use gnome-commander, and mc for the console,  
and will also try out tuxcmd now that you suggested it.


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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Carl Johnson

Geronimo  writes:

> Hi,
>
>> While I'm not familiar with Kalk
> Sorry, was my typo - I meant KCalc
>
> The gnome calculator is years away to be that usable.

I agree, but you might want to look into qalculate as a substitute.

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 17:51:17 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> Do you mean the mini-config done by KDE3 at first start? ... Or do you mean
> the old base-config program, back when the installation was done in two
> steps (sarge was the last release to use this IIRC)?

No, I refer to the kde settings dialog, where all desktop-settings can be 
changed. The same configuration page is accessible from the clock in the 
destop-bar.

I'm not shure, but I think the utc-option was there on kde 3.x
I see that timesettings-dialog with that utc-checkbox in my mind, but I can't 
asure where it was from.

> The question is certainly in the installer, I checked the translation
> files (.po), but it is probably shown only on expert installs.

Ok, I'll do another installation just to validate, that I did nothing wrong by 
myself. Additionally I'll try an expert installation too.

Thanks for your attention and your time!

kind regards

Gero

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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?


Dne, 13. 12. 2010 17:42:10 je J.A. de Vries napisal(a):

Hi,

I've been on testing for years now, so that'll be squeeze at the  
moment.


To be honest: I don't remember extacly what command I used for  
formatting, but
I do remember that I didn't have to do anything special. I presume  
that means

I just used mkfs.ext3.



I just wanted to make clear whether special tools, live CDs or such. So  
that clears it now. Thanx.


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Re: Debian Install Hangs

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:48:11 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:

> On 10-12-13 11:03 AM, Camaleón wrote:

>>> Any other thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>> Just one more :-)
>>
>> pci=nomsi
>>
>> or:
>>
>> pci=nommconf
>>
>> or both:
>>
>> pci=nomsi pci=nommconf

> Thanks Camaleon,
> 
> If I use pci=nomsi I get past having it freeze at the same point however
> I get the following:
> 
> CPU 0: Machine check exception: 4 Bank 4: b2100010c0f TSC 3cd6bc57a4
> This is not a software problem!
> Run through mcelog --ascii to decode and contact your hardware vendor
> kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check
> 
> Has anyone seen this?

Ugh! I cannot go debugging beyond that, sorry... but the message does not 
sound very good ;-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Check_Exception

Let's see if someone here have had any previous experience with that 
error and can provide you any good hints. Anyway, contacting Supermicro 
technical support will not hurt :-?

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Re: What are the dependencies of the gcc-4.2-base package?

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:49:33, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> But curious is that some of those packages are not "essential" but are 
> selected to be unistalled as they were... from OP's log, "apt" and "das", 
> for instance :-?

Don't forget OP is running Ubuntu ;)

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:47:31, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 13. 12. 2010 16:34:58 je Geronimo napisal(a):
> 
> >But i.e. I can't live without krusader, which is heavily bound to kde
> >internals. Or look at Kalk - there's no serious alternative on
> >gnome systems.
> 
> While I'm not familiar with Kalk, I was a *huge* fan of Krusader
> too, at the time. I've since settled for gnome-commander because
> it's a native Gnome app.

Every time I experimented with two-pane file managers I kept coming back 
to Tux Commander (package tuxcmd). While it does have it's quirks it is 
closest to the habits I acquired on Windows using Windows/Total 
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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 17:17:51, Geronimo wrote:
> On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 16:51:02 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:13:47, Geronimo wrote:
> > > > AFAIK this is only done when Windows is detected on that machine.
> > > 
> > > Ok, that sounds reasonable.
> > > 
> > > But then I miss an option, where I can overwrite that.
> > 
> > For the installer?
> 
> Yes - of cause!
> 
> I know on installing gnome the installer asks, whether the hwclock is UTC.
> I don't remember, if the question appeared on kde-installation, but if it 
> appeared and the user selects UTC, it is not reasonable, that the installer 
> silently ignores the selection and changes hwclock to local mode.
 
I doubt it depends on package(s) selected, but rather on whether you do 
an expert install or not.

> > It would be an additional hassle for people installing dual-boot
> > machines (usually not experienced Debian users) and it is easy enough to
> > change in /etc/default/rcS
> 
> On former systems there was a checkbox on desktop time configuration - so it 
> was easy to switch system from utc to local mode or back to utc. I don't 
> know, 
> why this option disappeared.

Do you mean the mini-config done by KDE3 at first start? That can have 
no influence on the system clock, only on user timezone. Or do you mean 
the old base-config program, back when the installation was done in two 
steps (sarge was the last release to use this IIRC)?

> As you can see in this thread /etc/default/rcS is not well known to be 
> related 
> to time settings. I had to google too.
> So I think, the former behaviour was weired for windows user and the current 
> behaviour is weired for linux users. 
> Time settings are already protected to superuser - so why not bring that 
> checkbox back to time settings dialog? May be with a little flyover help for 
> windows user explaining the sense of that checkbox?

The question is certainly in the installer, I checked the translation 
files (.po), but it is probably shown only on expert installs.

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Re: What are the dependencies of the gcc-4.2-base package?

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:55:19 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Lu, 13 dec 10, 14:33:39, Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> Is the norm for base packages, like this. At least the package manager
>> is smart enough to warn you against the operation :-)
> 
> AFAIK this is warning is only done for packages with "Essential: yes".

Whatever :-P

The fact is that by removing "gcc-4.2-base" it triggers the uninstall of 
those "essential" packages which make the package manager to "ring the 
bell".

But curious is that some of those packages are not "essential" but are 
selected to be unistalled as they were... from OP's log, "apt" and "das", 
for instance :-?

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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2010-12-13 Thread J.A. de Vries

Hi,

I've been on testing for years now, so that'll be squeeze at the moment.

To be honest: I don't remember extacly what command I used for formatting, but 
I do remember that I didn't have to do anything special. I presume that means 
I just used mkfs.ext3.

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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?


Dne, 13. 12. 2010 17:05:10 je J.A. de Vries napisal(a):

Hi Klistvud,

I have been using this exact disk for a couple of months now, without  
any
trouble whatsoever. Mind you, first thing I do with new disks is  
format them,
so maybe that has prevented some problems from arising. I use 2 of  
these disks
in a LVM setup with full disk encryption (manually done during  
install, as I
didn't want to use the debian-installer config option for that). Once  
in a
while I review the logs, but never a peep from the disks, so I assume  
all is

well.

Grx HdV


Hey, thanx a bunch. That's a relief. Would you also tell me which tool  
you use for formatting, and whether you're on lenny or squeeze?


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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2010-12-13 Thread J.A. de Vries

Hi Klistvud,

I have been using this exact disk for a couple of months now, without any 
trouble whatsoever. Mind you, first thing I do with new disks is format them, 
so maybe that has prevented some problems from arising. I use 2 of these disks 
in a LVM setup with full disk encryption (manually done during install, as I 
didn't want to use the debian-installer config option for that). Once in a 
while I review the logs, but never a peep from the disks, so I assume all is 
well.

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 16:51:02 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:13:47, Geronimo wrote:
> > > AFAIK this is only done when Windows is detected on that machine.
> > 
> > Ok, that sounds reasonable.
> > 
> > But then I miss an option, where I can overwrite that.
> 
> For the installer?

Yes - of cause!

I know on installing gnome the installer asks, whether the hwclock is UTC.
I don't remember, if the question appeared on kde-installation, but if it 
appeared and the user selects UTC, it is not reasonable, that the installer 
silently ignores the selection and changes hwclock to local mode.

> It would be an additional hassle for people installing dual-boot
> machines (usually not experienced Debian users) and it is easy enough to
> change in /etc/default/rcS

On former systems there was a checkbox on desktop time configuration - so it 
was easy to switch system from utc to local mode or back to utc. I don't know, 
why this option disappeared.

As you can see in this thread /etc/default/rcS is not well known to be related 
to time settings. I had to google too.
So I think, the former behaviour was weired for windows user and the current 
behaviour is weired for linux users. 
Time settings are already protected to superuser - so why not bring that 
checkbox back to time settings dialog? May be with a little flyover help for 
windows user explaining the sense of that checkbox?

For me - debian stands for the freedom of individual choice - it does not 
silently force any user to something he don't want (like i.e. ubuntu does).
So its only consequent to have that choice during installation.

kind regards

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Re: xserver-testing issues.

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:55:44 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Thank You for Your time and answer, Hugo:
> 
>> Ye gads, what a snakepit. Thanks.
> 
> So, no ideas how to configure X keyboard and sound in testing?

Leave some of the "/etc/default/keyboard" values empty, for example:

XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="us,de"
XKBVARIANT=""
XKBOPTIONS=""

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

Hi,

> While I'm not familiar with Kalk
Sorry, was my typo - I meant KCalc

The gnome calculator is years away to be that usable.

> I've since settled for gnome-commander because it's a
> native Gnome app.

I tried that commander, but it's an eternity away from krusader. 
So I have to live with small incompatibilities and use manual refresh or the 
like.

kind regards

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Re: xserver-testing issues.

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:25:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> 
>>> Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
 Now in the form:

 #keyboard.conf
 XKBMODEL="pc105"
 XKBLAYOUT="us,de"
 XKBVARIANT="winkeys"
 XKBOPTIONS="grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"


>>> 
>>>
>>> I was looking for a listing of what values these variables can have.
>>> Know of any?
>> 
>> As per "man setxkbmap", they should be under "/usr/share/X11/xkb/ *"
>> (i.e., "/usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst" seems to hold "xkbmodel" and
>> "/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/*" contains the layouts definitions).
>> 
>> OTOH, "man kbd" does not expand on the information for the possible
>> values... wait, maybe "/usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base"? :-?
>> 
>> 
> Ye gads, what a snakepit. Thanks.
> 

Setting those variables in /etc/default/keyboard can leave you without a 
keyboard (of course?) I set XKBLAYOUT=us-intl and on the next boot there 
was no keyboard.

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Re: why my sound card doesn't work


Dne, 13. 12. 2010 01:17:40 je Long Wind napisal(a):


00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM
AC'97 Audio (rev 12)


I may be severely off-base here, but those chips are quite old. IIRC,  
it was possible to configure them differently via BIOS settings and/or  
via motherboard jumpers (depending on your motherboard). There is a  
slight chance that, when configured differently, they might work...


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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:13:47, Geronimo wrote:
 
> > AFAIK this is only done when Windows is detected on that machine.
> 
> Ok, that sounds reasonable.
> 
> But then I miss an option, where I can overwrite that.

For the installer?

> I always install my machines using UTC - and I was quite off socks 
> recognizing 
> this time issue. I don't mind that windows is not able to show the right time 
> - but I do mind this default on debian installation.
> 
> This behaviour might be ok on suse or ubuntu - but not on debian.
> 
> At least I consider debian the most professional linux - so it should not 
> care 
> about windows kiddies ;)

It would be an additional hassle for people installing dual-boot 
machines (usually not experienced Debian users) and it is easy enough to 
change in /etc/default/rcS

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Re: xserver-testing issues.

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:25:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> 
>>> Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
 Now in the form:

 #keyboard.conf
 XKBMODEL="pc105"
 XKBLAYOUT="us,de"
 XKBVARIANT="winkeys"
 XKBOPTIONS="grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"


>>> 
>>>
>>> I was looking for a listing of what values these variables can have.
>>> Know of any?
>> 
>> As per "man setxkbmap", they should be under "/usr/share/X11/xkb/ *"
>> (i.e., "/usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst" seems to hold "xkbmodel" and
>> "/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/*" contains the layouts definitions).
>> 
>> OTOH, "man kbd" does not expand on the information for the possible
>> values... wait, maybe "/usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base"? :-?
>> 
>> 
> Ye gads, what a snakepit. Thanks.
> 

Setting those variables in /etc/default/keyboard can leave you without a 
keyboard (of course?) I set XKBLAYOUT=us-intl and on the next boot there 
was no keyboard.

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

2010-12-13 Thread Blake Hodder



  
  
Thanks Camaleon,

If I use pci=nomsi I get past having it freeze at the same point
however I get the following:

CPU 0: Machine check exception: 4 Bank 4: b2100010c0f
TSC 3cd6bc57a4
This is not a software problem!
Run through mcelog --ascii to decode and contact your hardware
vendor
kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check

Has anyone seen this?

Blake

On 10-12-13 11:03 AM, Camaleón wrote:

  On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:40:04 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:

  

On 10-12-10 07:45 PM, Tech Geek wrote:


  Try the following kernel parameters -- first all of them together and
thereafter in combination:
acpi=off nolapci noapic



Thanks for the reply, however; I have tried them all together as well as
in different combinations and it still hangs at :

pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping

Any other thoughts?

Thanks in advance

  
  
Just one more :-)

pci=nomsi

or:

pci=nommconf

or both:

pci=nomsi pci=nommconf

Greetings,





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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?


Dne, 13. 12. 2010 16:36:08 je godo napisal(a):

Hi,
it looks that is some problem with WD20EARS. I don't have WD20EARS  
but I  found something on the net. I hope it would be helpful.


From WD community. On the end of page is link for solution:
http://community.wdc.com/t5/Desktop/2TB-WD20EARS-showing-up-as-1TB/m-p/41267/highlight/true#M2194

Other WD community:
http://community.wdc.com/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?q=WD20EARS+linux

Blog with solution:
http://b1mmer.com/linux/wdhdd/


Thanx for the links.

If it is not a problem for you and if you somehow get that hdd for  
Christmas can you let me know (on/off list it doesn't matter) your  
experience?


Will do. On list, so others can benefit too.

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Re: xserver-testing issues.

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:25:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> 
>>> Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
 Now in the form:

 #keyboard.conf
 XKBMODEL="pc105"
 XKBLAYOUT="us,de"
 XKBVARIANT="winkeys"
 XKBOPTIONS="grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"


>>> 
>>>
>>> I was looking for a listing of what values these variables can have.
>>> Know of any?
>> 
>> As per "man setxkbmap", they should be under "/usr/share/X11/xkb/ *"
>> (i.e., "/usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst" seems to hold "xkbmodel" and
>> "/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/*" contains the layouts definitions).
>> 
>> OTOH, "man kbd" does not expand on the information for the possible
>> values... wait, maybe "/usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base"? :-?
>> 
>> 
> Ye gads, what a snakepit. Thanks.
> 

Setting those variables in /etc/default/keyboard can leave you without a 
keyboard (of course?) I set XKBLAYOUT=us-intl and on the next boot there 
was no keyboard.

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)


Dne, 13. 12. 2010 16:34:58 je Geronimo napisal(a):


But i.e. I can't live without krusader, which is heavily bound to kde
internals. Or look at Kalk - there's no serious alternative on gnome  
systems.


While I'm not familiar with Kalk, I was a *huge* fan of Krusader too,  
at the time. I've since settled for gnome-commander because it's a  
native Gnome app.


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Re: Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?


On 12/13/2010 03:57 PM, Klistvud wrote:

Howdie, fellow Debianites!

I'm planning to surprise my unsuspecting self with the above hard drive
for Christmas, but have read some alarming reports about
incompatibilities with GNU/Linux partitioning. Apparently, there are no
less than two distinct problems with these drivers:

1) an alignment problem due to the passage from 512-byte to 4096-byte
sector sizes, which seems to heavily affect transfer rates, and
2) a possibly related, but separate nonetheless, problem of wrong drive
sizes being recognized (either by the BIOS and/or by the kernel); such
as, 1TB being recognized instead of 2TB.

http://www.osnews.com/story/22872/Linux_Not_Fully_Prepared_for_4096-Byte_Sector_Hard_Drives

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/unable-to-boot-fresh-install-on-2tb-harddrive-debian-ubuntu-838681

http://forums.storagereview.com/index.php/topic/28850-2tb-wd20ears-showing-up-as-1tb/


Would very much like to hear about any first-hand experiences you may
have in making these drives work with Debian -- squeeze specifically.
Will be very grateful for any feedback.


Hi,
it looks that is some problem with WD20EARS. I don't have WD20EARS but I 
 found something on the net. I hope it would be helpful.


From WD community. On the end of page is link for solution:
http://community.wdc.com/t5/Desktop/2TB-WD20EARS-showing-up-as-1TB/m-p/41267/highlight/true#M2194

Other WD community:
http://community.wdc.com/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?q=WD20EARS+linux

Blog with solution:
http://b1mmer.com/linux/wdhdd/

If it is not a problem for you and if you somehow get that hdd for 
Christmas can you let me know (on/off list it doesn't matter) your 
experience?


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new beta .deb packaging for fully open source document management S/W

2010-12-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day


  (i just posted this to the ubuntu list but i figured i might as well
post here as well.)

  a company i'm doing some work for (nuxeo) has just released a .deb
package of its most recent, fully open-source Document Management
software:

http://blogs.nuxeo.com/fermigier/2010/12/new-beta-nuxeo-dm-package-debian-ubuntu.html

  if you're interested, grab it, install it and play with it.  if you
have any feedback, you can either reply to this post or e-mail me
directly, whichever is more convenient, and i'll make sure all
feedback gets back to the right people.

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 16:18:08 Klistvud wrote:
> On the other hand, I'm thankful to KDE 4, because it prompted me to
> (re)discover and adopt Gnome.

ROFL

Yes, in this sense I say thank you too :)
I'm now using gnome for about half a year and it is quite attractive. Lean, 
reasonable menues and the best - things work as expected.
There is very little functionality I miss at gnome.
But i.e. I can't live without krusader, which is heavily bound to kde 
internals. Or look at Kalk - there's no serious alternative on gnome systems.

I would like to support gnome, but I'm not the crack to build the missing 
stuff.

any way - thanks to kde I looked around searching for alternatives.

kind regards

Gero

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Re: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK prevents burning CDROM

2010-12-13 Thread Ken Heard

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SOL:~# wodim -v speed=2 dev=/dev/hda cdimage.raw
wodim: No write mode specified.
wodim: Asuming -tao mode.
wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults.
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '/dev/hda'
devname: '/dev/hda'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Wodim version: 1.1.9
SCSI buffer size: 64512
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'SONY'
Identification : 'DVD RW DW-D26A  '
Revision   : 'JYS2'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: 0x (Reserved/Unknown)
Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL)
Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R)
Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW)
Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording)
Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite)
Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording)
Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM)
Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW)
Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R)
Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM)
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if device
communication breaks or freezes immediately after that.
FIFO size  : 12582912 = 12288 KB
wodim: No such file or directory. Cannot open 'cdimage.raw'.

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)


Dne, 13. 12. 2010 07:27:07 je Geronimo napisal(a):



The point is - I was a very emotional fan of kde in days before kde 4  
- but

now I hate kde.


I can certainly relate to that, as can many other former KDE users. On  
the other hand, I'm thankful to KDE 4, because it prompted me to  
(re)discover and adopt Gnome.


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Re: [OT] Mail list issue.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:03:30 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote:

> Hugo Vanwoerkom:
>> Camaleón wrote:
>>> 
>>> I send the messages to "gmane.linux.debian.user" (Gmane group for this
>>> mailing list). Then, Gmane performs its magic and transforms it into
>>> the real mailing list "To:" address (debian-user[at]lists.debian.org).
>>> 
>>> 
>> I still take it that you send from gmail.
> 
> No, she/he doesn't. The client in use by Camaleón is Pan, a news reader.
> 
>> But "gmane.linux.debian.user" is an incomplete address!
> 
> It's the complete name of the newsgroup. It just happens to be available
> on only one server.
> 
> J.


Pan it is. Seeing if this posts any better than TB

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 16:00:20 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Lu, 13 dec 10, 15:00:16, Geronimo wrote:
> > The key is /etc/default/rcS - where after a gnome installation utc is set
> > to true and after a kde installation utc is set to false.
> > 
> > May be this is an issue for the installer-crew.
> 
> AFAIK this is only done when Windows is detected on that machine.

Ok, that sounds reasonable.

But then I miss an option, where I can overwrite that.

I always install my machines using UTC - and I was quite off socks recognizing 
this time issue. I don't mind that windows is not able to show the right time 
- but I do mind this default on debian installation.

This behaviour might be ok on suse or ubuntu - but not on debian.

At least I consider debian the most professional linux - so it should not care 
about windows kiddies ;)

kind regards

Gero


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Re: why my sound card doesn't work


Dne, 13. 12. 2010 03:03:16 je Russell L. Harris napisal(a):

I never have been able to get Intel integrated audio working under
Linux.


Would that be something like this:
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6  
Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) ?


Working out of the box, and seamlessly, on my P4 Lenny system.

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:40:04 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:
> 
> On 10-12-10 07:45 PM, Tech Geek wrote:
>> Try the following kernel parameters -- first all of them together and
>> thereafter in combination:
>> acpi=off nolapci noapic
>>
> Thanks for the reply, however; I have tried them all together as well as
> in different combinations and it still hangs at :
> 
> pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping
> 
> Any other thoughts?
> 
> Thanks in advance

Just one more :-)

pci=nomsi

or:

pci=nommconf

or both:

pci=nomsi pci=nommconf

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Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 15:00:16, Geronimo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 09:26:50 shawn wilson wrote:
> > ... easiest thing (since it's 03:23 here and i know off hand where to look)
> > is to 'cat /etc/timezone' 
> 
> that file isn't the key and was the same on both systems.
> Then I looked at /etc/adjtime and that told me the difference.
> The key is /etc/default/rcS - where after a gnome installation utc is set to 
> true and after a kde installation utc is set to false.
> 
> May be this is an issue for the installer-crew.

AFAIK this is only done when Windows is detected on that machine.

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Is squeeze compatible woth WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?


Howdie, fellow Debianites!

I'm planning to surprise my unsuspecting self with the above hard drive  
for Christmas, but have read some alarming reports about  
incompatibilities with GNU/Linux partitioning. Apparently, there are no  
less than two distinct problems with these drivers:


1) an alignment problem due to the passage from 512-byte to 4096-byte  
sector sizes, which seems to heavily affect transfer rates, and
2) a possibly related, but separate nonetheless, problem of wrong drive  
sizes being recognized (either by the BIOS and/or by the kernel); such  
as, 1TB being recognized instead of 2TB.


http://www.osnews.com/story/22872/Linux_Not_Fully_Prepared_for_4096-Byte_Sector_Hard_Drives
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/unable-to-boot-fresh-install-on-2tb-harddrive-debian-ubuntu-838681
http://forums.storagereview.com/index.php/topic/28850-2tb-wd20ears-showing-up-as-1tb/

Would very much like to hear about any first-hand experiences you may  
have in making these drives work with Debian -- squeeze specifically.  
Will be very grateful for any feedback.


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Re: xserver-testing issues.

2010-12-13 Thread Sthu Deus

Thank You for Your time and answer, Hugo:

> Ye gads, what a snakepit. Thanks.

So, no ideas how to configure X keyboard and sound in testing?


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Re: What are the dependencies of the gcc-4.2-base package?

On Lu, 13 dec 10, 14:33:39, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> Is the norm for base packages, like this. At least the package manager is 
> smart enough to warn you against the operation :-)

AFAIK this is warning is only done for packages with "Essential: yes".

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

2010-12-13 Thread Blake Hodder



  
  
Thanks for the reply, however; I have tried them all together as
well as in different combinations and it still hangs at :

pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping

Any other thoughts?

Thanks in advance

On 10-12-10 07:45 PM, Tech Geek wrote:

  Try the following kernel parameters -- first all of them
together and thereafter in combination:
   
  acpi=off nolapci noapic
  
 



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