Re: conseils de choix d'un service de versionnement pour du logiciel libre [Malice/Caia]
Le 14988ième jour après Epoch, Basile Starynkevitch écrivait: Bonjour, Je souhaite conseiller un versionneur à Jacques Pitrat qui est un brillant directeur de recherches CNRS à la retraite, je vous invite à lire son dernier livre http://www.iste.co.uk/index.php?f=aACTION=Viewid=257 Artificial Beings (The conscience of a conscious machine) Lecture aisée ou plutôt ardue? Je cherche pour lui un serveur versionneur git ou subversion qui soit accessible gratuitement pour les logiciels libres et qui répond correctement, y compris pour des gros logiciels. Je pensais à github.com ou sourceforge.net mais il y en a d'autres. Lesquels seraient à conseiller? Lesquels sont à éviter? Va voir Gna.org, qui propose une forge avec au choix cvs ou svn, plus tout un tas d'outils, comme pour une forge ;) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipxqsf0a@fermat.tourde.home
Re: conseils de choix d'un service de versionnement pour du logiciel libre [Malice/Caia]
Bonjour, Le samedi 15 janvier 2011, François TOURDE a écrit... Va voir Gna.org, qui propose une forge avec au choix cvs ou svn, plus tout un tas d'outils, comme pour une forge ;) J'avais hébergé un projet sur tuxfamily. RAS, c'était pleinement fonctionnel, possibilité de subversion et de git, si je me souviens bien. Accès ssh à la machine également. -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115092711.GA24498@espinasse
Re: conseils de choix d'un service de versionnement pour du logiciel libre [Malice/Caia]
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:16:53 +0100
fra-duf-no-s...@tourde.org (François TOURDE) wrote:
Le 14988ième jour après Epoch,
Basile Starynkevitch écrivait:
Bonjour,
Je souhaite conseiller un versionneur à Jacques Pitrat qui est un
brillant directeur de recherches CNRS à la retraite, je vous invite à
lire son dernier livre
http://www.iste.co.uk/index.php?f=aACTION=Viewid=257 Artificial
Beings (The conscience of a conscious machine)
Lecture aisée ou plutôt ardue?
Moi j'ai trouvé passionnante la lecture de ce livre, mais je connais
J.Pitrat depuis longtemps (depuis mon DEA et ma thèse). Et je dois
avouer que j'ai fait une première lecture de son brouillon (avant
publication). J'ai eu un stagiaire de licence (Jérémie Salvucci) qui
l'a trouvé intéressant aussi, et il ne connaissait pas ce genre d'idées.
Alors je dirais que la lecture est aisée (il faut lire l'anglais, mais
celui de J.Pitrat est facile, car il n'est pas très anglophone) et
qu'elle est passionnante et présente des idées décoiffantes.
Bon, avec le feedback reçu sur la liste, je ne sais toujours pas quoi
conseiller...
(je dois préciser que J.Pitrat est un théoricien experimentateur; il
n'est pas très à l'aise, ni très intéressé par, l'utilisation avancée
de Linux).
Cordialement
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Re: [HS] Re: aide pour expression reguliere..... basique
Bonjour
J'ai finalement utilise la solution que j'ai trouve et ca a l'air de bien
fonctionner.
Mais j'aimerai bien comprendre cette expression:
$pattern = #(\w*)_1 $sep \1_2 \(([^\)]*)):#;
#: Debut et fin d'expression
(\w*)_1: c'est un Sous masque numerote 1 pour les references arrieres. \w
correspond a un caractere et le * lui donne une longueur de 0 ou plus
$sep: C'est le separateur - que l'on connait
\1_2: On rappelle le sous-masque 1 et l'on note ce numerote 2 ce nouveau
sous masque.
\(([^\)]*)): : Cette partie me pose probleme
Si \( correspond a ( qui est avant textecherche et que ): correspond au ):
apres textecherche
alors comment traduire ([^\)]*)
( et ) ouvre et ferme le sous masque, * repete plusieur fois [^\)]
donc si j'ai bien compris [^\)]* correspond a textecherche (et sera stocke
dans $matches de preg_match($pattern, $texte, $matches))
[ et ] ouvre et ferme une definition de classe. Cette notion n'est pas tres
claire pour moi
Est ce que l'on appelle classe la partie qui doit etre la solution de
l'expression?
Et pour finir:
^\): correspond a tout ce qui n'est pas ) (^=negation, \)=) )
Est ce que ma traduction vous semble exacte?
Cordialement
Hugues
Le 11 janvier 2011 19:20, Patrick CAO HUU THIEN
patrick.cao_huu_th...@upmc.fr a écrit :
Hugues MORIN a dit le 01/10/2011 11:37 AM:
je cherche a extraire 'textecherche' sachant que le tiret entre
textequelconque_1 et textequelconque_2 est fixe
et que le ( et ): autour de 'textecherche' est fixe
textequelconque_1 - textequelconque_2 (textecherche):
Si tu connais a l'avance «textequelconque» essaie tout simplement :
$untexteqcq = 'mon texte super quelconque';
$sep='-';
$pattern = #${untexteqcq}_1 $sep ${untexteqcq}_2 \(([^\)]*)):#;
preg_match($pattern, $texte, $matches)
PS: je suis pas sure pour la syntaxe ${untexteqcq} mais vous voyez
ce que je veux dire
Si tu ne connais pas à l'avance «textequelconque» il faut utiliser
les reference arriere[1]:
$pattern = #(\w*)_1 $sep \1_2 \(([^\)]*)):#;
PS2: «(\w*)» suppose un texte avec uniquement des chiffres et
lettre. A affiner si besoin [2]
voila
[1] http://fr2.php.net/manual/fr/regexp.reference.back-references.php
[2] http://fr2.php.net/manual/fr/regexp.reference.escape.php
patrick
Re: [HS] Re: aide pour expression reguliere..... basique
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 01:27:34PM +0100, Hugues MORIN wrote: donc si j'ai bien compris [^\)]* correspond a textecherche (et sera stocke dans $matches de preg_match($pattern, $texte, $matches)) [ et ] ouvre et ferme une definition de classe. Cette notion n'est pas tres claire pour moi Une classe est simpement un ensemble de caractères: tu mets entre les crochets tous les caractères qui correspondent à la classe, et tu peux définir des plages avec '-'. Par ex., \w est équivalent à [a-zA-Z0-9_] (n'importe quelle lettre, chiffre ou underscore), \d est équivalenet à [0-9], [aeiouy] correspond aux voyelles, etc. Le chapeau définit l'inverse de la classe: [^0-9] définit n'importe quel caractère qui ne soit pas un chiffre. Du coup, [^\)]* veut dire 0 ou plus caractère qui ne soit pas une parenthèse fermante). Y. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115130317.gf...@naryves.com
Multiboot debian squeeze/sid avec lvm
Bonjour la liste, J'aimerais configuré un dual boot squeeze/sid, seulement je suis en lvm. Voici mon partitionnement: sda1 /boot sda2 partition lvm sdb1 partition windows sdc1 partition lvm Squeeze est déjà installé et utilise sda1 comme /boot /, /var, /usr, /tmp, swap et /home sont sur un vg, j'utilise grub 2 Pour l'installation de sid, ou mettre son /boot? je suppose qu'il n'est pas possible d'utiliser le même que squeeze. Je compte gardé le /home commun, par contre, faut t'il mettre le / sur un vg différent, ou peut t'il être mis sur le même vg que squeeze? ou faut t'il mieux que je crée un deuxième vg pour sid? D'avance, merci, et bonne soirée -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295127817.3871.21.camel@blue
Shockwave Player et Linux
Bonsoir, Shockwave Player (dans les navigateurs) est-il toujours allergique à Linux et doit-on passer par wine ? (ou y a t-il une autre possibilité ?) Bonne fin de soirée et merci. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101152314.59243.cor...@free.fr
Re: ¿DRM en el modulo AGP de Intel?
Ha funcionado como modulo. Gracias.
Re: Modificacion de apt
Pero con sources que tenga Debian ya preparados. Yo me refiero a cualquier programa en cualquier version, este o no en Debian.
Re: Modificacion de apt
Sinceramente no entiendo que es lo que quieres hacer... A ver, pongo un caso. Cojo un ordenador nuevo, y hago una instalacion limpia desde cero. Instalo un sistema basico con Debian estable, que sea de solo consola. Ahora supongamos que me quiero instalar las versiones mas recientes de varios programas, las cuales existen en los repositorios de Debian PERO en versiones anteriores, como por ejemplo KDE, me bajo los sources del ultimo KDE estable. KDE tiene muchas dependencias, compilo e instalo cada una. Si creo el archivo nombredependencia.deb y lo instalo con dpkg -i nombrearchivo.deb tendre un archivo huerfano. Lo que busco es modificar el comportamiento de apt para indicarle que ese archivo .deb que he instalado tiene una serie de dependencias. Asi, cuando quiera tocar algo con apt, el programa ya lo sabe. Seria algo asi como una base Debian y el resto en plan Gentoo pero sin ser Gentoo. Esto es lo que pregunto si es posible.
Re: Descarga cerrada
Solucionado. ya lo descargué. lo pueden quitar de sus respectivos enlaces. Muchas gracias a todos. Muy util esta herramienta. Gracias. de veras 100 de gracias El día 13 de enero de 2011 19:10, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 13 de enero de 2011 17:47, Alvaro Flores aflores.goldenl...@gmail.com escribió: o si se saben algun otro enlace que no sea bloqueado intenta bajarlo desde aquí: http://k-plaza.no-ip.org/ajaxexplorer/ajaxplorer-core-3.2.zip lo dejaré 24 horas. cricricri...cri. Bajé el link... cricricri...cri. De nada. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=gEK8+syyytW+0F-n_aUhFBk2=d_y8+vcn7...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/46641913abb0f7cbb59d6fc1515466b7.squir...@mail.ci.cf.rimed.cu
Otras listas?
Listeros pudieran decirme otras listas de correo??? Una lista que halla buena participación. me interesaria listas de venezuela, argentina, colombia etc Gracias de antemano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/b66c824119df0ee639e39a76deaba083.squir...@mail.ci.cf.rimed.cu
Re: Otras listas?
2011/1/15 Yoandy Melero yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu: Listeros pudieran decirme otras listas de correo??? Una lista que halla buena participación. me interesaria listas de venezuela, argentina, colombia etc como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinAO-+K-=hBO6Z1kb3+2AHa vkrk09-8s4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Otras listas? Solucionado
Muy interesante el articulo para quien le sirva Antes de hacer una pregunta técnica por correo, en un grupo de noticias o en el foro de un sitio web, haz lo siguiente: 1. Intenta encontrar una respuesta leyendo el manual. 2. Intenta encontrar una respuesta leyendo las FAQs 3. Intenta encontrar una respuesta buscando en la web. 4. Intenta encontrar la respuesta preguntándole a un amigo con más experiencia. Te respondo: 1. hay algun manual para encontrar listas? 2. Existe alguna FAQs explicandote que la lista fulana o mengana existen 3. Si tuviera como. No hay acceso 4. Soy el unico en esta empresa con un poco de conocimento de linux y los que usan windows nunca han participado en una lista. Ademas de ser el unico en km cuadrados Complacido y muchas gracias a los que han aportado. me han enviado varias url para hacerlo via email. Gracias y aqui seguimos. Aqui estamos. como dice la telenovela. 2011/1/15 Yoandy Melero yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu: Listeros pudieran decirme otras listas de correo??? Una lista que halla buena participación. me interesaria listas de venezuela, argentina, colombia etc como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinAO-+K-=hBO6Z1kb3+2AHa vkrk09-8s4...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/66d0e74c05a0e5582e21644e690f582f.squir...@mail.ci.cf.rimed.cu
Re: Descarga cerrada 2
Original Message Subject: Descarga cerrada 2 From: Yoandy Melero yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Date: 2011-01-15 10:52 Am He aqui otra vez. No dejan a los cubanos descargar http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundcubemail/files/roundcubemail/0.5/roundcubemail-0.5.tar.gz/download esta es la ultima version del roundcube y eso que el anuncio dice: Free webmail for the masses Es libre o no es libre??? Y en otros sitios tienen versiones anteriores. Algunos de ustedes amigos pudieran ponerlo para otro lugar??? Tampoco puede ser en megaupload. rapidshare, etc... Me parece que me voy a tener que conformar con herramientas de palo. jajajaja gracias luisito, pedrito y el amigo de venezuela por ponerme el ajaxplorer disponible por 24 horas aunque sea. Ya lo pueden quitar Un saludo Yoandy. License Roundcube Webmail is released under the GNU General Public License http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl.txt (GPL). Everyone is welcome to download and use it, deploy it and to re-distribute it. The code is provided «as-is» and in no event shall the copyright owner or contributors be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, exemplary, or consequential damages. http://www.confusion.com.mx/roundcubemail-0.5.tar.gz Saludos AM
Re: Descarga cerrada 2
Original Message Subject: Descarga cerrada 2 From: Yoandy Melero yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Date: 2011-01-15 10:52 Am He aqui otra vez. No dejan a los cubanos descargar http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundcubemail/files/roundcubemail/0.5/roundcubemail-0.5.tar.gz/download esta es la ultima version del roundcube y eso que el anuncio dice: Free webmail for the masses Es libre o no es libre??? Y en otros sitios tienen versiones anteriores. Algunos de ustedes amigos pudieran ponerlo para otro lugar??? Tampoco puede ser en megaupload. rapidshare, etc... Me parece que me voy a tener que conformar con herramientas de palo. jajajaja gracias luisito, pedrito y el amigo de venezuela por ponerme el ajaxplorer disponible por 24 horas aunque sea. Ya lo pueden quitar Un saludo Yoandy. Por cierto, puedes usar proxies para navegar? Pudiera ser una solución al problema de bloqueo. Usa por ejemplo: http://zend2.info/ Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d31f02c.7030...@augenopticos.com
Rutina en logrotate para Apache2
Hola,
Estoy buscando una rutina para la rotación de los registros de Apache2
(lenny).
La idea es que se genere un archivo cada mes con el siguiente formato:
access.2011-01-mmddhhmmss.log
access.2011-02-mmddhhmmss.log
access.2011-03-mmddhhmmss.log
(...)
error.2011-01-mmddhhmmss.log
error.2011-02-mmddhhmmss.log
error.2011-03-mmddhhmmss.log
Y que esos registros se compriman en un archivo único cada año:
access.2011-mmddhhmmss.log.gz
access.2012-mmddhhmmss.log.gz
access.2013-mmddhhmmss.log.gz
(mmddhhmmss sería la marca de tiempo de cuando se ejecuta la
rotación)
Tampoco quiero que borre automáticamente nada, es decir, que los
registros anuales comprimidos permanezcan almacenados en su sitio con el
contenido de todos archivos mensuales.
Ahora mismo tengo:
***
/etc/logrotate.d/apache2
/var/log/apache2/*.log {
monthly
missingok
compress
delaycompress
notifyempty
create 640 root adm
sharedscripts
postrotate
[...]
endscript
***
Pero al ejecutar un simulacro (/usr/sbin/logrotate -d) veo algo que no
me gusta (old logs are removed) por lo que me parece que estoy poniendo
algo mal. Y por otra parte, no sé cómo decirle que los registros
mensuales no se compriman sino que se genere un archivo comprimido sólo
cada año, con todos los meses.
La otra duda que tengo es quién se encarga de poner el nombre+coletilla
de la fecha a los archivos ¿Apache2 -con la variable CustomLog/ErrorLog-
o de eso se encarga logrotate?
De momento, los archivos de registro que genera Apache2 mantienen el
nombre de access.log, error.log, aunque supongo que hasta febrero no se
creará el archivo nuevo.
¿Sugerencias? :-)
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Re: Descarga cerrada 2
Veo que quieres descargar roundcubemail no se si ya tienes tu servidores de correo instalado o lo vas a instalar hay una aplicacion para servidor de correo muy buena que puedes usar si quieres que ya una ves ayude a una persona de cuba a instalar es el zimbra si puedes pruebalo es muy bueno. El día 15 de enero de 2011 14:22, Yoandy Melero yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu escribió: He aqui otra vez. No dejan a los cubanos descargar http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundcubemail/files/roundcubemail/0.5/roundcubemail-0.5.tar.gz/download esta es la ultima version del roundcube y eso que el anuncio dice: Free webmail for the masses Es libre o no es libre??? Y en otros sitios tienen versiones anteriores. Algunos de ustedes amigos pudieran ponerlo para otro lugar??? Tampoco puede ser en megaupload. rapidshare, etc... Me parece que me voy a tener que conformar con herramientas de palo. jajajaja gracias luisito, pedrito y el amigo de venezuela por ponerme el ajaxplorer disponible por 24 horas aunque sea. Ya lo pueden quitar Un saludo Yoandy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/362a03943a0cbe01f6813a0bade4c8ec.squir...@mail.ci.cf.rimed.cu -- George Hernández Telf 0414.5859332 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=qkncobpvumosspg9q_4zrwk02da5lmrro6...@mail.gmail.com
RE: Descarga cerrada 2
Socio, solo los cubamos sabemos los trabajos que pasamos para descargar desde cualquier lugar. Y eso es algo que no entienden muncha gente en esta lista, pues no son los afectados. Y siempre hay un querido colega que se encarga de dar esas respuestas tan cargadas de inteligencia como: Esto es una lista solo de debían Busca en internet antes de preguntar. Y otro tipo de respuestas que realmente ofenden la racionalidad humana para no decir la inteligencia. En un final, para ayudarte que es lo que interesa. Para poder descargar de sourceforge puedes usar el sitio www.mirrorservice.com. Por ahí puedes descargar cualquier cosa de sourceforge. Aquí estoy para lo que necesites siempre y cuando te pueda ayudar. Salu2s Gilbe -Mensaje original- De: Yoandy Melero [mailto:yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu] Enviado el: sábado, 15 de enero de 2011 12:53 p.m. Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Descarga cerrada 2 He aqui otra vez. No dejan a los cubanos descargar http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundcubemail/files/roundcubemail/0.5/roundcubemail-0.5.tar.gz/download esta es la ultima version del roundcube y eso que el anuncio dice: Free webmail for the masses Es libre o no es libre??? Y en otros sitios tienen versiones anteriores. Algunos de ustedes amigos pudieran ponerlo para otro lugar??? Tampoco puede ser en megaupload. rapidshare, etc... Me parece que me voy a tener que conformar con herramientas de palo. jajajaja gracias luisito, pedrito y el amigo de venezuela por ponerme el ajaxplorer disponible por 24 horas aunque sea. Ya lo pueden quitar Un saludo Yoandy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/362a03943a0cbe01f6813a0bade4c8ec.squir...@mail.ci.cf.rimed.cu __ Informaci�n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi�n de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/000b01cbb4f5$7c5f2af0$751d80d0$@cupet.cu
OT Preguntas inteligentes
Quizás en vez de estar pensando tanto en las preguntas inteligentes, deberíamos ocuparnos mas por dar respuestas inteligentes. Pues mas inteligente que preguntar, es saber responde solo cuando se haga con el ánimo de ayudar. Salu2s Gilbe
Re: OT Preguntas inteligentes
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:50:10 -0300, Gilberto Luis Díaz Valdés gi...@servi.cupet.cu wrote: Quizás en vez de estar pensando tanto en las preguntas inteligentes, deberíamos ocuparnos mas por dar respuestas inteligentes. Pues mas inteligente que preguntar, es saber responde solo cuando se haga con el ánimo de ayudar. Esto es una respuesta inteligente... Comparto totalmente... -- Omar G. Murray [CruxoM] crux@gmail.com JID: c...@jabber.freenet.de Ekiga: omur...@ekiga.net http://mysteriouswaystg.blogspot.com Powered by Linux Mint 10 Julia GNU/Linux - kernel 2.6.32 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.vpc76pejuo6tdd@crux-nb
[OT] Re: Descarga cerrada 2
El Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:52:31 -0500, Yoandy Melero escribió: He aqui otra vez. No dejan a los cubanos descargar http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundcubemail/files/roundcubemail/0.5/ roundcubemail-0.5.tar.gz/download esta es la ultima version del roundcube y eso que el anuncio dice: Free webmail for the masses Es libre o no es libre??? (...) ¿Por qué no iba a ser libre? Según la wikipedia es un proyecto con licencia GPLv2. Yo que tú preguntaba en su lista de correo para ver por qué están usando un servidor de descarga con restricciones de acceso. Si no recuerdo mal, SourceForge permitía (no sé si aún seguirá vigente esta opción) configurar a cada proyecto las limitaciones que quiere aplicar. En cualquier caso, podrías sugerirles a los de Roundcube que cambien (o añadan) algún servicio de hospedaje adicional. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.15.20.04...@gmail.com
balancing connections
hi guys, I have a web application that I want to scale in a cluster like Amazon EC2. I have a load balancer and behind several web server (Apache2). My question is: How can I make for the session that is iniciated in webserver 1...will be available in webserver 2 cause the load balancer maybe can send the conection some times from 1 to 2 or viceversa. Thanks
balanceando conexiones
Hola, Lo siento antes mande la pregunta en ingles, la cosa es la siguiente, tengo un cluster del estilo amazon ec2, con un balanceador de carga y detras varios servidores web apache2, mi rpegunta es: Como puedo mantener las conexiones que se inician en el servidor web 1 cuando esa misma conexion la mande el balanceador al servidor web 2??? muchas gracias
Re: Rutina en logrotate para Apache2
El Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:31:22 +, Camaleón escribió:
Estoy buscando una rutina para la rotación de los registros de Apache2
(lenny).
(...)
Ahora mismo tengo:
***
/etc/logrotate.d/apache2
/var/log/apache2/*.log {
monthly
missingok
compress
delaycompress
notifyempty
create 640 root adm
sharedscripts
postrotate
[...]
endscript
***
Mientras encuentro algo mejor, he añadido rotate 52 (para que no
elimine los archivos antiguos durante ~4 años y dateext para que genere
un archivo con la fecha.
Veremos cómo va.
Saludos,
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Re: Rutina en logrotate para Apache2
El día 15 de enero de 2011 22:25, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
El Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:31:22 +, Camaleón escribió:
Estoy buscando una rutina para la rotación de los registros de Apache2
(lenny).
(...)
Ahora mismo tengo:
***
/etc/logrotate.d/apache2
/var/log/apache2/*.log {
monthly
missingok
compress
delaycompress
notifyempty
create 640 root adm
sharedscripts
postrotate
[...]
endscript
***
Mientras encuentro algo mejor, he añadido rotate 52 (para que no
elimine los archivos antiguos durante ~4 años y dateext para que genere
un archivo con la fecha.
Veremos cómo va.
Saludos,
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Mirando el man de logrotate he visto una opción para ejecutar un script cada vez
que se ejecuta una rotación. Opción postrotate. tal vez puedas usarlo.
Saludos.
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Re: Otras listas? Solucionado
El día 15 de enero de 2011 15:04, Yoandy Melero yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu escribió: Muy interesante el articulo para quien le sirva Antes de hacer una pregunta técnica por correo, en un grupo de noticias o en el foro de un sitio web, haz lo siguiente: 1. Intenta encontrar una respuesta leyendo el manual. 2. Intenta encontrar una respuesta leyendo las FAQs 3. Intenta encontrar una respuesta buscando en la web. 4. Intenta encontrar la respuesta preguntándole a un amigo con más experiencia. Te respondo: 1. hay algun manual para encontrar listas? 2. Existe alguna FAQs explicandote que la lista fulana o mengana existen 3. Si tuviera como. No hay acceso 4. Soy el unico en esta empresa con un poco de conocimento de linux y los que usan windows nunca han participado en una lista. Ademas de ser el unico en km cuadrados Por favor no respondas a mi privado que no lo he pedido. ahora lee esto: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista Me dí cuenta que eres de Cuba, ¿debería saber que restricciones tienes? ¿las pusiste en tu correo inicial? Algunos de tus colegas tienen acceso otros no, algunos tienen limitaciones con el correo otros no. Una pregunta inteligente debe tener la mayor cantidad posible de datos relevantes. En tu caso: Soy de Cuba, no tengo acceso total a la web y necesito encontrar algunas lista de programación, linux, php, python, etc, etc, por favor envienme sus urls. Complacido y muchas gracias a los que han aportado. me han enviado varias url para hacerlo via email. Gracias y aqui seguimos. Aqui estamos. como dice la telenovela. Que bien, siempre en esta lista y otras habrá alguién que te ayude aunque no respetes las normas. Que bien por tí. Una lista que halla buena participación. me interesaria listas de venezuela, argentina, colombia etc Perdón ¿no entendí, pero listas de qué? como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikgdcwq_oi_0-nbfbwhg-af+k1uyv5r8dkh3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT Preguntas inteligentes
El día 15 de enero de 2011 17:50, Gilberto Luis Díaz Valdés gi...@servi.cupet.cu escribió: Quizás en vez de estar pensando tanto en las preguntas inteligentes, deberíamos ocuparnos mas por dar respuestas inteligentes. Pues mas inteligente que preguntar, es saber responde solo cuando se haga con el ánimo de ayudar. Y porque los usuarios de Cuba no se unen y buscan en conjunto alguna solución a sus problemas de navegación y restricciones, generando repositorios locales o almacenando en algún servidor local los paquetes o softwares que necesiten. Habríamos muchos que les colaboraríamos poniendo a su dispocisión los paquetes necesarios. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=x2zhsyr2+hx6zeixoqruspr-nqlx74maks...@mail.gmail.com
Grub no me reconoce Ubuntu
Hola a todos. En mi portátil tengo conviviendo a Debian squeeze/sid (sistema principal) y ArchLinux. En ArchLinux desinstalé grub y cada vez que hay una actualización del kernel lo que hago es un update-grub desde Debian y listo. Sin embargo hoy mismo he instalado en otra partición Ubuntu 10.10, me instaló su propio grub (sin darme opción a no instalarlo como hacía antes) y reconoció correctamente a Debian y Arch pero al iniciar en Debian y hacer grub-install /dev/sda y update-grub me reconoció correctamente Debian y ArchLinux, pero el Ubuntu ni se lo olió. ¿Alguien me puede decir la razón y/o la solución? (Si puede ser sin editar manualmente el grub.cfg) La estructura de particiones es la siguiente: sda sda1/home (de todos los sistemas) sda2swap sda5Debian sda6Ubuntu sda7ArchLinux sda8vacía Gracias -- Mundi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295134868.3890.11.camel@portatil
Re: Rutina en logrotate para Apache2
Hola,
2011/1/15 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
Hola,
Estoy buscando una rutina para la rotación de los registros de Apache2
(lenny).
La idea es que se genere un archivo cada mes con el siguiente formato:
access.2011-01-mmddhhmmss.log
access.2011-02-mmddhhmmss.log
access.2011-03-mmddhhmmss.log
(...)
error.2011-01-mmddhhmmss.log
error.2011-02-mmddhhmmss.log
error.2011-03-mmddhhmmss.log
Y que esos registros se compriman en un archivo único cada año:
access.2011-mmddhhmmss.log.gz
access.2012-mmddhhmmss.log.gz
access.2013-mmddhhmmss.log.gz
(mmddhhmmss sería la marca de tiempo de cuando se ejecuta la
rotación)
Tampoco quiero que borre automáticamente nada, es decir, que los
registros anuales comprimidos permanezcan almacenados en su sitio con el
contenido de todos archivos mensuales.
Ahora mismo tengo:
***
/etc/logrotate.d/apache2
/var/log/apache2/*.log {
monthly
missingok
compress
delaycompress
notifyempty
create 640 root adm
sharedscripts
postrotate
[...]
endscript
***
Pero al ejecutar un simulacro (/usr/sbin/logrotate -d) veo algo que no
me gusta (old logs are removed) por lo que me parece que estoy poniendo
algo mal. Y por otra parte, no sé cómo decirle que los registros
mensuales no se compriman sino que se genere un archivo comprimido sólo
cada año, con todos los meses.
La otra duda que tengo es quién se encarga de poner el nombre+coletilla
de la fecha a los archivos ¿Apache2 -con la variable CustomLog/ErrorLog-
o de eso se encarga logrotate?
En Debian tratan de homogenizar las cosas usando logrotate, hay
algunos programas que tradicionalmente han rotado sus logs por su
cuenta, pero hay esfuerzos de que los paquetes debian confien en
logrotate.
En el caso particular de apache, podrías configurarlo como dicen en la
página de apache [1], con un script llamado rotatelogs (tendrías, por
supuesto, que desconfigurar el logrotate). Yo veo mejor usar
logrotate.
Creo que te faltaría poner la opción nocompress (y quitar la
opuesta), ya que no quieres que se compriman los logs
De momento, los archivos de registro que genera Apache2 mantienen el
nombre de access.log, error.log, aunque supongo que hasta febrero no se
creará el archivo nuevo.
¿Sugerencias? :-)
Cuéntanos si consigues hacer exactamente lo que quieres sólo con
logrotate, yo creo que más bien me haría un cutre-script ... sobre
todo para comprimir todos los logs del año en un fichero .. quizás
como han comentado por aquí usando el postrotate (comprobar que no
exista un fichero comprimido de ese año y luego generarlo)
Saludos
[1] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/programs/rotatelogs.html
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Re: Grub no me reconoce Ubuntu
El 15 de enero de 2011 18:41, Mundi Granja mundigra...@gmail.com escribió: Hola a todos. En mi portátil tengo conviviendo a Debian squeeze/sid (sistema principal) y ArchLinux. En ArchLinux desinstalé grub y cada vez que hay una actualización del kernel lo que hago es un update-grub desde Debian y listo. Sin embargo hoy mismo he instalado en otra partición Ubuntu 10.10, me instaló su propio grub (sin darme opción a no instalarlo como hacía antes) y reconoció correctamente a Debian y Arch pero al iniciar en Debian y hacer grub-install /dev/sda y update-grub me reconoció correctamente Debian y ArchLinux, pero el Ubuntu ni se lo olió. ¿Alguien me puede decir la razón y/o la solución? (Si puede ser sin editar manualmente el grub.cfg) La estructura de particiones es la siguiente: sda sda1/home (de todos los sistemas) sda2swap sda5Debian sda6Ubuntu sda7ArchLinux sda8vacía Gracias -- Mundi -- Prueba con os-prober: Lo instalamos: # aptitude install os-prober Ejecutamos: # os-prober y luego actualizamos el grub. Fuente: http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/instalar-grub2-debian
Re: OT Preguntas inteligentes
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 07:35:10PM -0300, Felix Perez wrote: El día 15 de enero de 2011 17:50, Gilberto Luis Díaz Valdés gi...@servi.cupet.cu escribió: Quizás en vez de estar pensando tanto en las preguntas inteligentes, deberíamos ocuparnos mas por dar respuestas inteligentes. Pues mas inteligente que preguntar, es saber responde solo cuando se haga con el ánimo de ayudar. Y porque los usuarios de Cuba no se unen y buscan en conjunto alguna solución a sus problemas de navegación y restricciones, generando repositorios locales o almacenando en algún servidor local los paquetes o softwares que necesiten. Habríamos muchos que les colaboraríamos poniendo a su dispocisión los paquetes necesarios. Si, además las normas están ahá por algo, Gilberto, de verdad. Por ejemplo, esta lista tiene una carga brutal, tanto para los servidores de debian como para sus usuarios, que es realmente molesta, a muchos nos molesta recibir tantas chorradas por estar subscritos a ella, y muchos acabamos lléndonos, aunque algunos volvamos (o somos masocas, o nos gusta tanto debian que por mucho que nos molesten, vapuleen por exigir un mínimo de decencia e inteligencia en la lista etc. volvemos a ella). Y si, los usuarios cubanos deberían intentar soluccionar sus propios problemas, en cada pais tenemos los nuestros y no les pedimos que los soluccionen ellos, que al juego del victimismo podemos jugar todos, y en esta lista hay un monton de cubanos con la suficiente cabeza como para sacarse las castañas del fuego y hacer preguntas realmente inteligentes, y cada poco se os intenta enseñar y dar a entender que un sistema debian está preparado para correr como servidor en un sitio completamente apartado de internet, con documentacion incluida en los cds y un sistema de empaquetamiento increíble, pero cada vez llegan nuevos y vuelven a cometer los errores de sus antecesores, y cuatro gatos que tambien son medianamente nuevos van a defenderles a capa y espada, causando nada mas que molestias extra. **Ya vale** de dar por saco con el tema, por el amor del monstruo espagueti volador. Debian les da solucciones ofreciendoles la mano... y ustedes tiran de el brazo. Esto es insostenible ya. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=x2zhsyr2+hx6zeixoqruspr-nqlx74maks...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110116053820.gm25...@xayon.net
Re: Descarga cerrada 2
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 02:47:49PM -0600, Gilberto Luis Díaz Valdés wrote: Socio, solo los cubamos sabemos los trabajos que pasamos para descargar desde cualquier lugar. Y eso es algo que no entienden muncha gente en esta lista, pues no son los afectados. Y siempre hay un querido colega que se encarga de dar esas respuestas tan cargadas de inteligencia como: Esto es una lista solo de debían Vale, entonces cierra el pico, la bocaza, o lo que sea. Las NORMAS existen por algo, buscaos otra lista para ayuda online a cubanos, o pedid a algun colectivo que la cree, pero ESTA LISTA NO ES UN SITIO DE BUSQUEDA AUTOMATICA para cubanos idiotas. Y mucho menos cuando en esta misma lista se ha demostrado que la mayoria de los cubanos que hay en ella son lo suficientemente inteligentes como para arreglarselas solos, y son solo unos pocos los que dan mal ¡Y con exigencias! ¡A nosotros que les damos soporte gratuito! ¡Venga hombre, ¿Que te has creido?! Si encima son cuatro gatos que estan dejando a la comunidad cubana en general mal, yo si fuera cubano me ofendería. Esta lista no se modera, pero muchas veces dan ganas de que se moderase para evitar dejar pasar cosas OT y que no incumplan las normas de forma tan horrible. Te lo resumire: No sigues las normas de la lista - Preguntas OT sin marca de OT - Preguntas que no son sobre debian - Exigencias - Falta de respeto - Esto no esta en la norma, pero deberia estar prohibido, eso de Solo los cubanos sabemos los trabajos que pasamos para descargar desde cualquier lugar es puro victimismo. Que si, que estais jodidos, lo sabemos y no hace falta que justifiqueis vuestra falta de respeto y exigencias con eso. No sigues la netiqueta - El topic no es nada descriptivo - Tus correos están echos una mierda - Utilizas bulgarismos en todas partes. No sigues las normas de preguntas inteligentes... - Una busqueda en google te habría devuelto el otro enlace, Eso quiere decir, basicamente, que mereces, si MERECES que pasemos de ti. Y aun con todo, han contestado, han mandado cordialmente un correo con otra direccion... y tu sigues protestando. Eso es solo causar problemas por gusto. Para, dejalo, tomate algo, descansa, deja debian, o debian te dejara a ti si sigues así. ¿No te sientes mal exigiendonos a nosotros, que te damos un servicio gratis, cosas? Lo hacemos de buena voluntad y contestas así. Y la lista deberia dejar de responder a estas chorradas, asi dejarian Y otro tipo de respuestas que realmente ofenden la racionalidad humana para no decir la inteligencia. ¿Que tipo de respuestas? indica alguna por ejemplo. Porque todo lo que has dicho hasta ahora cumple esas caracteristicas. Para poder descargar de sourceforge puedes usar el sitio www.mirrorservice.com. Por ahí puedes descargar cualquier cosa de sourceforge. Aquí estoy para lo que necesites siempre y cuando te pueda ayudar. Bien, pues no escribas otro post protestando. Salu2s Gilbe -Mensaje original- De: Yoandy Melero [mailto:yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu] Enviado el: sábado, 15 de enero de 2011 12:53 p.m. Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Descarga cerrada 2 He aqui otra vez. No dejan a los cubanos descargar http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundcubemail/files/roundcubemail/0.5/roundcubemail-0.5.tar.gz/download esta es la ultima version del roundcube y eso que el anuncio dice: Free webmail for the masses Es libre o no es libre??? Y en otros sitios tienen versiones anteriores. Algunos de ustedes amigos pudieran ponerlo para otro lugar??? Tampoco puede ser en megaupload. rapidshare, etc... Me parece que me voy a tener que conformar con herramientas de palo. jajajaja gracias luisito, pedrito y el amigo de venezuela por ponerme el ajaxplorer disponible por 24 horas aunque sea. Ya lo pueden quitar Un saludo Yoandy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/362a03943a0cbe01f6813a0bade4c8ec.squir...@mail.ci.cf.rimed.cu __ Informaci�n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi�n de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.
RE: OT Preguntas inteligentes
-Mensaje original- De: David Francos (XayOn) [mailto:xa...@xayon.net] Enviado el: sábado, 15 de enero de 2011 11:38 p.m. Y si, los usuarios cubanos deberían intentar soluccionar sus propios problemas, en cada pais tenemos los nuestros y no les pedimos que los soluccionen ellos, que al juego del victimismo podemos jugar todos, y en esta lista hay un monton de cubanos con la suficiente cabeza como para sacarse las castañas del fuego y hacer preguntas realmente inteligentes, y cada poco se os intenta enseñar y dar a entender que un sistema debian está preparado para correr como servidor en un sitio completamente apartado de internet, con documentacion incluida en los cds y un sistema de empaquetamiento increíble, pero cada vez llegan nuevos y vuelven a cometer los errores de sus antecesores, y cuatro gatos que tambien son medianamente nuevos van a defenderles a capa y espada, causando nada más que molestias extra. Estimado señor David Mire, definitivamente ninguno de ustedes está entendiendo el tema. El colega que se refirió a las descargas que no fui yo, no se refería a que el no tuviese acceso a internet o que la empresa u organización a la que pertenece le estuviese bloqueando el acceso. Se refería, a que en internet hay un montón de sitios que le tienen bloqueadas las descargas a las IP proveniente de cuba. No estamos hablando de que nuestro país nos este bloqueando el acceso, tanto en el caso del colega como en el mío, si tenemos acceso a internet, pero algunos sitios y específicamente SourceForge entre otros, nos prohíben la descarga por el simple hecho de que esta se origine desde Cuba(Discriminación). Esa política no es solo de SourceForge, hay una serie de sitios que no voy a listar. Repito, es el sitio quien prohíbe la descarga. Además le digo a usted, que los cubanos que accedemos a esta lista lo hacemos para buscar ayuda sobre Debian, Linux y software libre en general, no para hacernos los victimas, ni pedir que ustedes nos solucionen ningún problema fuera de este ámbito. Es una lástima que mucha gente piense de la forma en que usted lo está haciendo. Además, le comento que entre las cosas que también hacemos los cubanos esta el ayudarnos mutuamente, respetarnos y tolerarnos. Muchos de los suscriptores de esta lista deberían tomar ejemplo de colegas como Camaleón, del cual nunca he leído un correo ofensivo, despreciativo o de los que llaman inteligentes hacia ningún usuario, siempre lo he visto colaborando y ayudando, como debiera ser, como las bases de una comunidad que somos todos los que usamos software libre. Disculpen el resto por no mencionarlos, Camaleón es el que me viene a la mente ahora. Pues bien, aún cuando se que me costará la expulsión de la lista, le daré una respuesta inteligente a usted y a otros tantos que hay en esta lista que nunca escriben un correo para ayudar a nadie, y luego se la dan de superdotados y mandan estos correítos sobre cosas inteligentes. Leerse las FAQ si que es fácil. Ya que es tan inteligente, me imagino sepa de anatomía tanto como de Debian no ??? Pues fusionemos ambas cosas. MANUAL PARA IMBECILES 1.0 ESTA DOCUMENTACION NO VIENE EN CD Y NO ES DE INTELIGENTES PREGUNTAR EN LA LISTA PASOS 1- Coja todos sus conocimientos y deseos de ayudar, compílelos y empaquételos en un .deb. 2- Posteriormente quémelos en un CD o cópielos en una Flash o Pendrive. (Le recomiendo en un HDD Externo de 3.5.) 3- Diríjase a la parte trasera de su CPUH, unidad central humana. 4- Abra la compuerta de su dispositivo llamado ANO. 5- Introdúzcase todo eso hasta que haya pasado por: Esfínter Externo, Esfínter Interno, Recto, intestino, etc. Le recordamos que si le llegase a salir por la boca y se lo vuelve a introducir en el ANO, puede generar un bucle repetitivo que cause desbordamiento de memoria o denegación de servicios. Eso es todo, y no quiero irme sin antes agradecer a todos aquellos que un momento determinado brindaron su ayuda a quien pudieron sin analizar la inteligencia de las preguntas. Pues gracias a ustedes por usar Open Source y tener Open Mind. Además, los incito a que sigan haciéndolo, pues son los únicos que realmente contribuyen a algo. Salu2s Gilbe __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/01cbb54f$54074ec0$fc15ec40$@cupet.cu
RE: Descarga cerrada 2
Jajajajajajaja, So imbécil, dedícate a ayudar a los demás, pues hablas de chorradas, y has sido el que más a aportado a esta lista en este día. -Mensaje original- De: David Francos (XayOn) [mailto:xa...@xayon.net] Enviado el: sábado, 15 de enero de 2011 11:50 p.m. Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Descarga cerrada 2 On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 02:47:49PM -0600, Gilberto Luis Díaz Valdés wrote: Socio, solo los cubamos sabemos los trabajos que pasamos para descargar desde cualquier lugar. Y eso es algo que no entienden muncha gente en esta lista, pues no son los afectados. Y siempre hay un querido colega que se encarga de dar esas respuestas tan cargadas de inteligencia como: Esto es una lista solo de debían Vale, entonces cierra el pico, la bocaza, o lo que sea. Las NORMAS existen por algo, buscaos otra lista para ayuda online a cubanos, o pedid a algun colectivo que la cree, pero ESTA LISTA NO ES UN SITIO DE BUSQUEDA AUTOMATICA para cubanos idiotas. Y mucho menos cuando en esta misma lista se ha demostrado que la mayoria de los cubanos que hay en ella son lo suficientemente inteligentes como para arreglarselas solos, y son solo unos pocos los que dan mal ¡Y con exigencias! ¡A nosotros que les damos soporte gratuito! ¡Venga hombre, ¿Que te has creido?! Si encima son cuatro gatos que estan dejando a la comunidad cubana en general mal, yo si fuera cubano me ofendería. Esta lista no se modera, pero muchas veces dan ganas de que se moderase para evitar dejar pasar cosas OT y que no incumplan las normas de forma tan horrible. Te lo resumire: No sigues las normas de la lista - Preguntas OT sin marca de OT - Preguntas que no son sobre debian - Exigencias - Falta de respeto - Esto no esta en la norma, pero deberia estar prohibido, eso de Solo los cubanos sabemos los trabajos que pasamos para descargar desde cualquier lugar es puro victimismo. Que si, que estais jodidos, lo sabemos y no hace falta que justifiqueis vuestra falta de respeto y exigencias con eso. No sigues la netiqueta - El topic no es nada descriptivo - Tus correos están echos una mierda - Utilizas bulgarismos en todas partes. No sigues las normas de preguntas inteligentes... - Una busqueda en google te habría devuelto el otro enlace, Eso quiere decir, basicamente, que mereces, si MERECES que pasemos de ti. Y aun con todo, han contestado, han mandado cordialmente un correo con otra direccion... y tu sigues protestando. Eso es solo causar problemas por gusto. Para, dejalo, tomate algo, descansa, deja debian, o debian te dejara a ti si sigues así. ¿No te sientes mal exigiendonos a nosotros, que te damos un servicio gratis, cosas? Lo hacemos de buena voluntad y contestas así. Y la lista deberia dejar de responder a estas chorradas, asi dejarian Y otro tipo de respuestas que realmente ofenden la racionalidad humana para no decir la inteligencia. ¿Que tipo de respuestas? indica alguna por ejemplo. Porque todo lo que has dicho hasta ahora cumple esas caracteristicas. Para poder descargar de sourceforge puedes usar el sitio www.mirrorservice.com. Por ahí puedes descargar cualquier cosa de sourceforge. Aquí estoy para lo que necesites siempre y cuando te pueda ayudar. Bien, pues no escribas otro post protestando. Salu2s Gilbe -Mensaje original- De: Yoandy Melero [mailto:yoa...@ci.cf.rimed.cu] Enviado el: sábado, 15 de enero de 2011 12:53 p.m. Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Descarga cerrada 2 He aqui otra vez. No dejan a los cubanos descargar http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundcubemail/files/roundcubemail/0.5/roundcubemail-0.5.tar.gz/download esta es la ultima version del roundcube y eso que el anuncio dice: Free webmail for the masses Es libre o no es libre??? Y en otros sitios tienen versiones anteriores. Algunos de ustedes amigos pudieran ponerlo para otro lugar??? Tampoco puede ser en megaupload. rapidshare, etc... Me parece que me voy a tener que conformar con herramientas de palo. jajajaja gracias luisito, pedrito y el amigo de venezuela por ponerme el ajaxplorer disponible por 24 horas aunque sea. Ya lo pueden quitar Un saludo Yoandy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/362a03943a0cbe01f6813a0bade4c8ec.squir...@mail.ci.cf.rimed.cu __ Informaci�n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi�n de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 5788 (20110114) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este
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aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
Hi, My usual method of 'cleaning' the system was to set all installed packages to auto-installed and then mark one by one the ones I need to keep. I even have a good list generated with: aptitude -F '%?p' search '~i!~M' bak/pkg.list Now the problem I'm facing is that (probably due to some aptitude bug than seems to have disappeared) most of my installed packages are set to manually installed. How can I: - set everything to auto-installed - automatically mark as manually installed the ones in the list ? I already tried (as root): aptitude markauto ~i This will try to remove everything and I have to abort aptitude --schedule-only markauto ~i Seems to be doing the first part, but I can't convince aptitude to unmark my list (which I processed to not contain unneeded space and newlines): aptitude unmarkauto pkg.list has no effect aptitude install pkg.list first tries to remove everything and when I say 'n' it starts crunching on my processor. Any other suggestions? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Andrei Popescu
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
My usual method of 'cleaning' the system was to set all installed
packages to auto-installed and then mark one by one the ones I need to
keep. I even have a good list generated with:
aptitude -F '%?p' search '~i!~M' bak/pkg.list
Now the problem I'm facing is that (probably due to some aptitude bug
than seems to have disappeared) most of my installed packages are set to
manually installed. How can I:
- set everything to auto-installed
- automatically mark as manually installed the ones in the list
?
I already tried (as root):
aptitude markauto ~i
Maybe, I don't known if command line length limit imposed by bash will
let to do it:
Generate an string like:
aptitude markauto '~i!~n^package1$!~n^package2$'
If you have a packages.txt file with a package by line, do it with awk:
aptitude markauto '~i'$(awk '{printf !~n^$1$;}' packages.txt)
And a similar trick marking these packages like manual installed.
Regards,
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Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Andrei Popescu
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
My usual method of 'cleaning' the system was to set all installed
packages to auto-installed and then mark one by one the ones I need to
keep. I even have a good list generated with:
aptitude -F '%?p' search '~i!~M' bak/pkg.list
Now the problem I'm facing is that (probably due to some aptitude bug
than seems to have disappeared) most of my installed packages are set to
manually installed. How can I:
- set everything to auto-installed
- automatically mark as manually installed the ones in the list
?
I already tried (as root):
aptitude markauto ~i
Maybe, I don't known if command line length limit imposed by bash will
let to do it:
Generate an string like:
aptitude markauto '~i!~n^package1$!~n^package2$'
If you have a packages.txt file with a package by line, do it with awk:
aptitude markauto '~i'$(awk '{printf !~n^$1$;}' packages.txt)
And a similar trick marking these packages like manual installed.
Maybe essential packages should be installed no auto (add !~E to expression)
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Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 12:25:26, Javier Barroso wrote:
If you have a packages.txt file with a package by line, do it with awk:
aptitude markauto '~i'$(awk '{printf !~n^$1$;}' packages.txt)
And a similar trick marking these packages like manual installed.
Thanks, at a first glance that was enough. I just hoped for a solution
that wouldn't involve such hacks. Unless somebody comes up with a
cleaner solution I'll file a whishlist bug.
Regards,
Andrei
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Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 12:29:15, Javier Barroso wrote: And a similar trick marking these packages like manual installed. Maybe essential packages should be installed no auto (add !~E to expression) Not needed since apt/aptitude will never auto-remove packages 'Essential: yes'. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 13:01:30 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: [...] How can I: - set everything to auto-installed - automatically mark as manually installed the ones in the list ? I already tried (as root): aptitude markauto ~i This will try to remove everything and I have to abort aptitude --schedule-only markauto ~i Seems to be doing the first part, but I can't convince aptitude to unmark my list (which I processed to not contain unneeded space and newlines): aptitude unmarkauto pkg.list has no effect aptitude install pkg.list first tries to remove everything and when I say 'n' it starts crunching on my processor. Any other suggestions? aptitude --schedule-only unmarkauto $(cat pkg.list) is somewhat clumsy, but it seems to work here. I only tried a simple test case with a list of two packages, and I did not test if --schedule-only is really necessary. If your list of packages exceeds the maximum number of command line arguments then you have to split the file. Backticks should also work if you want to avoid the $(...) bashism. -- Regards,| Florian | http://www.florian-kulzer.eu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115112307.GA3041@isar.localhost
Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Andrei Popescu
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 12:25:26, Javier Barroso wrote:
If you have a packages.txt file with a package by line, do it with awk:
aptitude markauto '~i'$(awk '{printf !~n^$1$;}' packages.txt)
And a similar trick marking these packages like manual installed.
Thanks, at a first glance that was enough. I just hoped for a solution
that wouldn't involve such hacks. Unless somebody comes up with a
cleaner solution I'll file a whishlist bug.
Ok, I would like to hear Daniel (aptitude author) reply, aptitude
development seems to be in standby :(, I hope squeeze freeze be the
reason ...
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Re: Lenny - xvinfo: No Adaptors present.. No XVideo
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:03:19 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:37:11PM EST, Camaleón wrote: [..] Maybe it's time for you attach/upload the whole /var/log/Xorg.0.log file :-) Hey.. why not.. http://pastebin.com/38DZcW7D Thanks :-) Some comments on the log... *** (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 173.14.09 Thu Jun 5 00:07:40 PDT 2008 (II) Loading extension GLX ** It seems loading the GLX module using some part of the nvidia closed drivers... how is that possible? :-? Now look mine: *** (II) LoadModule: glx (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (==) AIGLX enabled (II) Loading extension GLX *** Here is loading the Xorg stock GLX extension. ... And there is something more in your log it caught my attention: *** (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset Unknown NVIDIA chip found *** And now compare to mine: *** (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset Quadro FX 1500 found *** I still don't see why are you so reluctant to test the closed source driver. Just to test, for seeing how it goes and if it solves nothing then at least you can decide the next step with confidence :-) You said your card was unsupported and you maybe right. - Lenny ships nvidia-glx 173.14.09 and your card is not listed: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.09/README/appendix-a.html - But Squeeze ships nvidia-glx 195.36.31 and your card appears there: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/195.36.31/README/supportedchips.html So you can test the closed driver in squeeze and see how it goes. If all is fine you can then install the latest driver available from nvidia site in lenny (it will require driver compilation). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.15.11.58...@gmail.com
[Solved] Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 12:23:07, Florian Kulzer wrote: Any other suggestions? aptitude --schedule-only unmarkauto $(cat pkg.list) Do you mean after a '--schedule-only markauto ~i'? Hmm, let's try... Nope, not what I needed. But the solution seems to be: aptitude --schedule-only markauto ~i aptitude --schedule-only install $(cat pkg.list) Didn't think of trying with --schedule-only Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Lenny - xvinfo: No Adaptors present.. No XVideo
On 2011-01-15 12:58 +0100, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:03:19 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:37:11PM EST, Camaleón wrote: [..] Maybe it's time for you attach/upload the whole /var/log/Xorg.0.log file :-) Hey.. why not.. http://pastebin.com/38DZcW7D Thanks :-) Some comments on the log... *** (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 173.14.09 Thu Jun 5 00:07:40 PDT 2008 (II) Loading extension GLX ** It seems loading the GLX module using some part of the nvidia closed drivers... how is that possible? :-? Because the nvidia-glx package is installed, even though Chris does not use it. This is bad because no program that uses OpenGL will be able to run, but not directly related to the problem. And there is something more in your log it caught my attention: *** (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset Unknown NVIDIA chip found Yeah, the nv driver is too old and does not really know the card. Should not be much of a problem, though. I still don't see why are you so reluctant to test the closed source driver. Just to test, for seeing how it goes and if it solves nothing then at least you can decide the next step with confidence :-) I wonder why Chris bought a laptop with such a powerful card in the first place if he has no use for it. Intel graphics would have been cheaper and also cause much less headaches. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r5cemjz3@turtle.gmx.de
Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
Florian Kulzer: […] Backticks should also work if you want to avoid the $(...) bashism. That's not a bashism, it's perfectly legal POSIX/SUS. http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_06_03 J. -- In this bunker there are women and children. There are no weapons. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:16:37 -0500 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: [BIG SNIP] You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's instead of /dev/mdX. That removes the possibility that the kernel will change the mdX designations. Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions. Thanks for the reply, Rob. What grub file do I change? grub.cfg? grub *.map? I seem to have UUIDs for both disks and LVM partitions, change both? So you have LVM over RAID, not just RAID. Hi, Tom. Well, not really, not all of the disks are LVM2. The first two disks raid1 /dev/sda /dev/sdc are partitioned with 1 small /(root) partition, /dev/md0 - 10 gigs. The balance of the disk is /dev/md1 under LVM2 with seven logical volumes. /home,/var,/swap etc The next two disks sdb and sdd are raid1 as /dev/md2 which I need to use as an extension of the LVM. More info, when I boot the machine, I see the GRUB loading. WELCOME to GRUB! info. Then it enters the rescue mode with a grub rescue prompt. So the kernel is found/finding the / partition. Right? For grub2, you're only supposed to edit /etc/default/grub. I started interpreting that as simply needing a update-grub type of fix.. I was/am wrong... So I resorted to systemrescuecd-2.0.0.. to fix up Grub.. Thanks, Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115072451.00d25...@torrid.volunteerwireless.net
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:25:45 -0700 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility from a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end result was the names of the arrays were changed on the working 2 drives. IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127. Something else must have happened too. Because normally just adding arrays will not rename the existing arrays. I am not familiar with the Disk Utility that you mention. Next time instead you might just use mdadm directly. It really is quite easy to create new arrays using it. Here is an example that will create a new device /dev/md9 mirrored from two other devices /dev/sdy5 and /dev/sdz5. mdadm --create /dev/md9 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdy5 /dev/sdz5 This is how I created /dev/md2. Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives remains as /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The result is that Grub2 fails to boot the / array. You may have to boot a rescue cd. I recommend booting the Debian install disk in rescue mode. Then you can inspect and fix the problem. But as of yet you haven't said enough to let us know what the problem might be yet. I have tried three REINSTALLING GRUB procedures from Sysresccd online docs and many others GNU.org, Ubuntu etc. This isn't encouraging. I can tell that you are grasping at straws. You have my sympathy. But unfortunately that doesn't help diagnose the problem. Remain calm. And repeat exactly the problem that you are seeing and the steps you have taken to correct it. I have not made any changes to any files on the root partition. I have only used the procedures from SystemRescueCD and then backed out. All seem to fail with the same linux_raid_member error. The errors occur when I try to mount the partition with the /boot directory. 'Complains about file system type 'linux_raid_member' I haven't seen that error before. Maybe someone else will recognize it. I don't understand why you would get an error mounting /boot that would prevent the system from coming online. Because by the time the system has booted enough to mount /boot it has already practically booted completely. The system doesn't actually need /boot mounted to boot. Grub reads the files from /boot and sets things in motion and then /etc/fstab instructs the system to mount /boot. I get that when using the live rescue disk. Usually when the root device cannot be assembled the error I see is that the system is Waiting for root filesystem and can eventually get to a recovery shell prompt. This machine has worked for 3 years flawlessly.. Can anyone help with this? Or point me to a place or link to get this fixed. Google doesn't help... I can't find a article/posting where it ended successfully. I have considered a full reinstall after Squeeze goes stable, since this O/S is a crufty upgrade from sarge over time. But useless now.. The partitions for raid volumes should be 'autodetect' 0xFD. This will enable mdadm to assemble then into raid at boot time. You can inspect the raid partitions with --detail and --examine. mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 mdadm --detail /dev/md0 That will list information about the devices. Replace with your own series of devices. I would boot a rescue image and then inspect the current configuration using the above commands. Hopefully that will show something wrong that can be fixed after you know what it is. A couple of other hints: If you are not booting a rescue system but using something like a live boot then you may need to load the kernel modules manually. You may need to load the dm_mod and md_mod modules. modprobe md_mod You might get useful information from looking at the /proc/mdstat status. cat /proc/mdstat There is a configuration file /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf that holds the UUIDs of the configured devices. If those have become corrupted then mdadm won't be able to assemble the /dev/md* devices. Check that file and compare against what you see with the --detail output. The initrd contains a copy of the mdadm.conf file with the components needed to assemble the root filesystem. If the UUIDs change over what is recorded in the initrd then the initrd will need to be rebuilt. To do that make sure that the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file is correct and then reconfigure the kernel with dpkg-reconfigure. dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.32-5-i686 Good luck! Bob Thanks, Bob I will do as you suggest shortly.. BTW, A little more info in my reply to Tom.. TIA, Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Jack Schneider wrote: You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's instead of /dev/mdX. That removes the possibility that the kernel will change the mdX designations. Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions. Whatever you do, NEVER use the UUIDs of partitions, use the UUID of the md devices. The worst failure scenario involving MD and idiotic tools is for a tool to cause a component device to be mounted instead of the MD array. This is one of the reasons why the new MD formats that offset the data inside the component devices exists. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115140611.ga26...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
Le samedi 15 janvier, Florian Kulzer écrivit : On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 13:01:30 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: [...] aptitude --schedule-only unmarkauto $(cat pkg.list) is somewhat clumsy, but it seems to work here. I only tried a simple test case with a list of two packages, and I did not test if --schedule-only is really necessary. If your list of packages exceeds the maximum number of command line arguments then you have to split the file. Backticks should also work if you want to avoid the $(...) bashism. Another simpler form, but perhaps again a bashism is : # aptitude unmarkauto $( pkg.list) No process fork for cat. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:06:11 -0200 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Jack Schneider wrote: You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's instead of /dev/mdX. That removes the possibility that the kernel will change the mdX designations. Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions. Whatever you do, NEVER use the UUIDs of partitions, use the UUID of the md devices. The worst failure scenario involving MD and idiotic tools is for a tool to cause a component device to be mounted instead of the MD array. This is one of the reasons why the new MD formats that offset the data inside the component devices exists. Thanks, Henrique!!! That gives me a new place to start this AM... Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115082823.28019...@torrid.volunteerwireless.net
Re: [kinda solved] Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 14:14:11, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 15 ian 11, 12:23:07, Florian Kulzer wrote: Any other suggestions? aptitude --schedule-only unmarkauto $(cat pkg.list) Do you mean after a '--schedule-only markauto ~i'? Hmm, let's try... Nope, not what I needed. But the solution seems to be: aptitude --schedule-only markauto ~i aptitude --schedule-only install $(cat pkg.list) Actually this only helps cleaning the system of unneeded packages, but still leaves me with a lot of packages not marked auto, so I had to apply Javier's hack after all. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Keyboard freezing/repeating endlessly
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:47:59 -0800 Joe Riel j...@san.rr.com wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:38:43 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: You can: 1/ Start the system with no xorg (console) and leave it so for sometine to check if the problem is still present (even with no x server). I'll attempt to try this. Might be painful working in a virtual terminal all the time. Kind of limits what I can do. This is my work machine... Got lucky, sort of. I was just working in a virtual terminal when the lockup occurred. That doesn't rule out X in that X was running (I had just opened the terminal and was reading a man page), however, it suggests the problem might not be with X. That is consistent with the observation that restarting gdm3 does not clear the fault. 2/ Review you kernel log, just in case (cat /var/log/kern.log | grep input). Found the following lines (more of same) in kern.log at the time of the lockup. However, I don't see them for other lockups (a lockup occurred while I was typing this email), so it could be a red-herring: Jan 15 09:20:58 gauss kernel: [164858.674186] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: nouveau_channel_free: freeing fifo 2 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.749505] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: nouveau_channel_free: freeing fifo 1 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750491] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 1/5 Mthd 0x Data 0x8013 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750507] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - nSource: DATA_ERROR, nStatus: BAD_ARGUMENT Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750511] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - Ch 1/5 Class 0x008a Mthd 0x0300 Data 0x:0x Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750566] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 1/4 Mthd 0x Data 0x801a Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750580] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - nSource: ILLEGAL_MTHD, nStatus: BAD_ARGUMENT PROTECTION_FAULT -- Joe Riel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115095554.5c9cbb44@gauss
Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores
Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes: Carl Johnson put forth on 1/13/2011 11:34 AM: Processors Time (seconds) P1 66 P2 36 P3 25 P4 20 P5 20 P6 20 P7 20 P8 20 Your numbers bear out exactly what I predicted. Look at the decrease in run time from 1 to 2, 2 to 3, and from 3 to 4 processes: #CPUs Decremental run timeFractional gain per CPU 2 30s 1/2 3 11s 1/6th 4 5s 1/13th You can clearly see the effects of serious memory contention when 3 cores are pegged. Bringing the 4th core into the mix yields almost nothing compared to three cores, cutting only 5 seconds from a 66 second run time. I seem to be looking at it in a different way, because the numbers don't seem that much different that what I would expect. #CPUs time theoretical time-theoreticalgain/CPU(theoretical) 1 66 2 3666/2 = 33 36-33 = 3 (+9%) 1 -1/2 = 1/2 3 2566/3 = 22 25-22 = 3 (+14%)1/2-1/3 = 1/6 4 2066/4 = 16.5 20-16.5 = 3.5 (+21%)1/3-1/4 = 1/12 -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ei8e2foa.fsf@oak.localnet
stardict dictionary packages.
Good day. Are in Debian the packages holding dictionaries capable to work w/ stardict? I see plenty of dictionaries for dict use, for example, but not for stardict. Or it is almost unusable program in Debian repo - as the interface program w/o the dictionaries seems to me as VCR w/o the tapes. :) Thank You for Your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d31ec84.ca7a0e0a.0341.9...@mx.google.com
Re: stardict dictionary packages.
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:50:39 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. It's late afternoon here :-P Are in Debian the packages holding dictionaries capable to work w/ stardict? I see plenty of dictionaries for dict use, for example, but not for stardict. Or it is almost unusable program in Debian repo - as the interface program w/o the dictionaries seems to me as VCR w/o the tapes. :) Aren't dict-freedict-*-* packages working with Stardict? (just asking because I have not tested) :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.15.19.52...@gmail.com
Re: Keyboard freezing/repeating endlessly
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:55:54 -0800, Joe Riel wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:47:59 -0800 Joe Riel wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:38:43 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: You can: 1/ Start the system with no xorg (console) and leave it so for sometine to check if the problem is still present (even with no x server). I'll attempt to try this. Might be painful working in a virtual terminal all the time. Kind of limits what I can do. This is my work machine... Got lucky, sort of. I was just working in a virtual terminal when the lockup occurred. That doesn't rule out X in that X was running (I had just opened the terminal and was reading a man page), however, it suggests the problem might not be with X. That is consistent with the observation that restarting gdm3 does not clear the fault. Hum... yes, then it can be something related to the kernel. 2/ Review you kernel log, just in case (cat /var/log/kern.log | grep input). Found the following lines (more of same) in kern.log at the time of the lockup. However, I don't see them for other lockups (a lockup occurred while I was typing this email), so it could be a red-herring: Jan 15 09:20:58 gauss kernel: [164858.674186] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: nouveau_channel_free: freeing fifo 2 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.749505] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: nouveau_channel_free: freeing fifo 1 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750491] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 1/5 Mthd 0x Data 0x8013 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750507] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - nSource: DATA_ERROR, nStatus: BAD_ARGUMENT Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750511] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - Ch 1/5 Class 0x008a Mthd 0x0300 Data 0x:0x Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750566] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 1/4 Mthd 0x Data 0x801a Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750580] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - nSource: ILLEGAL_MTHD, nStatus: BAD_ARGUMENT PROTECTION_FAULT If X server is not running, where are these logs entries coming from? (nouveau is the X driver for nvidia cards) ;-) Anyway, the behaviour you are experiencing with the ps/2 keyboard is weird enough to fill a bug in Debian BTS, I would go for it. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.15.20.16...@gmail.com
blancing conections
hi guys, I have a web application that I want to scale in a cluster like Amazon EC2. I have a load balancer and behind several web server (Apache2). My question is: How can I make for the session that is iniciated in webserver 1...will be available in webserver 2 cause the load balancer maybe can send the conection some times from 1 to 2 or viceversa. Thanks
Squeeze and Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 4000
Hello List, I own a Logitech QuickCamPro and it doesn't work with Squeeze, any other people who have the same problem or no problem with it ?! Only thing I found relevant was a closed bug : http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2010/06/msg00310.html Greetings! -- Slobodan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3202b3.7010...@aleksic.de
Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
In 20110115110130.GC15639@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote:
My usual method of 'cleaning' the system was to set all installed
packages to auto-installed and then mark one by one the ones I need to
keep.
aptitude --schedule-only markauto ~i
Seems to be doing the first part, but I can't convince aptitude to
unmark my list (which I processed to not contain unneeded space and
newlines):
aptitude unmarkauto pkg.list
has no effect
The redirection operator you've used ('') opens the named file, and replaces
file descriptor 0 (stdin), with the descriptor of the just opened file, just
before running the command. Aptitude doesn't read packages to operate on from
stdin, so it's not surprising this didn't have the effect you wanted.
(aptitude unmarkauto $(cat pkg.list)) should do what you want, and extra
newlines and spaces wouldn't matter even if the file contained them.
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Re: Keyboard freezing/repeating endlessly
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:16:16 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:55:54 -0800, Joe Riel wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:47:59 -0800 Joe Riel wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:38:43 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: You can: 1/ Start the system with no xorg (console) and leave it so for sometine to check if the problem is still present (even with no x server). I'll attempt to try this. Might be painful working in a virtual terminal all the time. Kind of limits what I can do. This is my work machine... Got lucky, sort of. I was just working in a virtual terminal when the lockup occurred. That doesn't rule out X in that X was running (I had just opened the terminal and was reading a man page), however, it suggests the problem might not be with X. That is consistent with the observation that restarting gdm3 does not clear the fault. Hum... yes, then it can be something related to the kernel. 2/ Review you kernel log, just in case (cat /var/log/kern.log | grep input). Found the following lines (more of same) in kern.log at the time of the lockup. However, I don't see them for other lockups (a lockup occurred while I was typing this email), so it could be a red-herring: Jan 15 09:20:58 gauss kernel: [164858.674186] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: nouveau_channel_free: freeing fifo 2 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.749505] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: nouveau_channel_free: freeing fifo 1 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750491] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 1/5 Mthd 0x Data 0x8013 Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750507] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - nSource: DATA_ERROR, nStatus: BAD_ARGUMENT Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750511] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - Ch 1/5 Class 0x008a Mthd 0x0300 Data 0x:0x Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750566] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 1/4 Mthd 0x Data 0x801a Jan 15 09:20:59 gauss kernel: [164859.750580] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PGRAPH_ERROR - nSource: ILLEGAL_MTHD, nStatus: BAD_ARGUMENT PROTECTION_FAULT If X server is not running, where are these logs entries coming from? (nouveau is the X driver for nvidia cards) ;-) Well, the X server was running. I was originally in X and switched to a virtual terminal. The lockup occurred while I was working in the virtual terminal. I searched google for that error message and found a few related bug reports in other forums. At least one user was experiencing very similar behavior (keyboard goes away). Anyway, the behaviour you are experiencing with the ps/2 keyboard is weird enough to fill a bug in Debian BTS, I would go for it. I'll do so. -- Joe Riel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115123346.46efebe8@gauss
Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
In 20110115133957.gi4...@wasteland.homelinux.net, Jochen Schulz wrote: Florian Kulzer: […] Backticks should also work if you want to avoid the $(...) bashism. That's not a bashism, it's perfectly legal POSIX/SUS. It's also preferred over backticks since you can't nest backticks AND some older shells have convenient behavior on input like Is it now `date that really messes with you if you try and use quotes inside backticks. Like making the following ambiguous: Is it now`date + %F `, but I wish it was 100 years in the future. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [really solved] Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 19:42:26, Andrei Popescu wrote: Actually this only helps cleaning the system of unneeded packages, but still leaves me with a lot of packages not marked auto, so I had to apply Javier's hack after all. Ok, this looks like the best version so far: Backup: aptitude --disable-columns -F %p search '~i!~M' $PKG_LIST (in case you're wondering, my list currently has 177 packages) Restore (as root): aptitude -o Aptitude::Delete-Unused=false markauto ~i aptitude -o Aptitude::Delete-Unused=false unmarkauto $(cat $PKG_LIST | tr \n ) aptitude keep-all I still don't understand why 'Delete-Unused=false' is necessary with 'unmarkauto' and an additional 'keep-all' is needed, but at least it works. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 14:31:13, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: (aptitude unmarkauto $(cat pkg.list)) should do what you want, and extra newlines and spaces wouldn't matter even if the file contained them. Thanks for the tip, that saves a 'tr' invocation in my solution. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: stardict dictionary packages.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 07:52:01PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:50:39 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. It's late afternoon here :-P Are in Debian the packages holding dictionaries capable to work w/ stardict? I see plenty of dictionaries for dict use, for example, but not for stardict. Or it is almost unusable program in Debian repo - as the interface program w/o the dictionaries seems to me as VCR w/o the tapes. :) Aren't dict-freedict-*-* packages working with Stardict? (just asking because I have not tested) :-? Greetings, I haven't tried it either but that appears to be the stardict recommendation as they offer dictd tarballs for installation to /usr/share/stardict/dic along with others. http://yeelou.com/huzheng/stardict-dic/ -- Regards, Freeman Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer. --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115211511.GA12565@Europa.office
Re: stardict dictionary packages.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 01:15:11PM -0800, evenso wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 07:52:01PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:50:39 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. It's late afternoon here :-P Are in Debian the packages holding dictionaries capable to work w/ stardict? I see plenty of dictionaries for dict use, for example, but not for stardict. Or it is almost unusable program in Debian repo - as the interface program w/o the dictionaries seems to me as VCR w/o the tapes. :) Aren't dict-freedict-*-* packages working with Stardict? (just asking because I have not tested) :-? Greetings, I haven't tried it either but that appears to be the stardict recommendation as they offer dictd tarballs for installation to /usr/share/stardict/dic along with others. http://yeelou.com/huzheng/stardict-dic/ The dictd dictionaries on my system don't work but the tarballs of the same dictionaries from yeelou.com do. I kind of like stardict. Once it is running, it is as fast as dictd at the command line. -- Regards, Freeman Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer. --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115213651.GA18169@Europa.office
Re: blancing conections
Jesus arteche wrote: I have a web application that I want to scale in a cluster like Amazon EC2. I have a load balancer and behind several web server (Apache2). My question is: How can I make for the session that is iniciated in webserver 1...will be available in webserver 2 cause the load balancer maybe can send the conection some times from 1 to 2 or viceversa. One idea. Store the session in a cookie (like Rails default cookie store) so that it is provided by the client with every http request. There are good things and bad things about using cookie based sessions however. One idea. Store the session in a database that is shared between all of the web application servers. There are good things and bad things about using database based sessions however. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:25:45 -0700 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility from a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end result was the names of the arrays were changed on the working 2 drives. IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127. Something else must have happened too. Because normally just adding arrays will not rename the existing arrays. I am not familiar with the Disk Utility that you mention. Hi, Bob Thanks for your encouraging advice... As I mentioned in a prior post,Grub was leaving me at a Grub rescueprompt. I followed this procedure: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell Booting now leaves me at a busy box: However the Grub menu is correct. With the correct kernels. So it appears that grub is now finding the root/boot partitions and files. Next time instead you might just use mdadm directly. It really is quite easy to create new arrays using it. Here is an example that will create a new device /dev/md9 mirrored from two other devices /dev/sdy5 and /dev/sdz5. mdadm --create /dev/md9 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdy5 /dev/sdz5 Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives remains as /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The result is that Grub2 fails to boot the / array. You may have to boot a rescue cd. I recommend booting the Debian install disk in rescue mode. Then you can inspect and fix the problem. But as of yet you haven't said enough to let us know what the problem might be yet. I have tried three REINSTALLING GRUB procedures from Sysresccd online docs and many others GNU.org, Ubuntu etc. This isn't encouraging. I can tell that you are grasping at straws. You have my sympathy. But unfortunately that doesn't help diagnose the problem. Remain calm. And repeat exactly the problem that you are seeing and the steps you have taken to correct it. The errors occur when I try to mount the partition with the /boot directory. 'Complains about file system type 'linux_raid_member' I haven't seen that error before. Maybe someone else will recognize it. I don't understand why you would get an error mounting /boot that would prevent the system from coming online. Because by the time the system has booted enough to mount /boot it has already practically booted completely. The system doesn't actually need /boot mounted to boot. Grub reads the files from /boot and sets things in motion and then /etc/fstab instructs the system to mount /boot. Usually when the root device cannot be assembled the error I see is that the system is Waiting for root filesystem and can eventually get to a recovery shell prompt. This machine has worked for 3 years flawlessly.. Can anyone help with this? Or point me to a place or link to get this fixed. Google doesn't help... I can't find a article/posting where it ended successfully. I have considered a full reinstall after Squeeze goes stable, since this O/S is a crufty upgrade from sarge over time. But useless now.. The partitions for raid volumes should be 'autodetect' 0xFD. This will enable mdadm to assemble then into raid at boot time. You can inspect the raid partitions with --detail and --examine. mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 mdadm --detail /dev/md0 mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 gives I think a clean result I have posted the output at : http://pastebin.com/pHpKjgK3 mdadm --detail /dev/md0 -- gives mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does not appear to be active. There is no /proc/mdstat data output. That will list information about the devices. Replace with your own series of devices. I would boot a rescue image and then inspect the current configuration using the above commands. Hopefully that will show something wrong that can be fixed after you know what it is. A couple of other hints: If you are not booting a rescue system but using something like a live boot then you may need to load the kernel modules manually. You may need to load the dm_mod and md_mod modules. modprobe md_mod You might get useful information from looking at the /proc/mdstat status. cat /proc/mdstat There is a configuration file /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf that holds the UUIDs of the configured devices. If those have become corrupted then mdadm won't be able to assemble the /dev/md* devices. Check that file and compare against what you see with the --detail output. The initrd contains a copy of the mdadm.conf file with the components needed to assemble the root filesystem. If the UUIDs change over what is recorded in the initrd then the initrd will need to be rebuilt. To do that make
changing grub boot order
as per the wiki I change the default in /etc/default/grub from 0 to 4. I ran update-grub. The same entry boots by default, i.e. it didn't work. Anyone know why ? Brian For reference: Configuring grub v2 The configuration file is /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but you shouldn't edit it directly. This file is generated by grub v2's update-grub(8), based on: 1. The script snippets in /etc/grub.d/ 2. The configuration file /etc/default/grub To configure grub v2, you should edit /etc/default/grub, then run update-grub. Advanced configuration are achieved by modifying the snippets in /etc/grub.d/. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115145508.28f11...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: changing grub boot order
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 14:55:08, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: as per the wiki I change the default in /etc/default/grub from 0 to 4. I ran update-grub. The same entry boots by default, i.e. it didn't work. Anyone know why ? Please post the outputs of 'grep default= /boot/grub/grub.cfg' and 'grep GRUB_DEFAULT /etc/default/grub'. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Jack Schneider p...@dp-indexing.com wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:16:37 -0500 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: [BIG SNIP] You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's instead of /dev/mdX. That removes the possibility that the kernel will change the mdX designations. Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions. Thanks for the reply, Rob. What grub file do I change? grub.cfg? grub *.map? I seem to have UUIDs for both disks and LVM partitions, change both? So you have LVM over RAID, not just RAID. Well, not really, not all of the disks are LVM2. The first two disks raid1 /dev/sda /dev/sdc are partitioned with 1 small /(root) partition, /dev/md0 - 10 gigs. The balance of the disk is /dev/md1 under LVM2 with seven logical volumes. /home,/var,/swap etc The next two disks sdb and sdd are raid1 as /dev/md2 which I need to use as an extension of the LVM. So you don't need to have any lvm reference in grub.cfg. More info, when I boot the machine, I see the GRUB loading. WELCOME to GRUB! info. Then it enters the rescue mode with a grub rescue prompt. So the kernel is found/finding the / partition. Right? For grub rescue, check out http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik3whb1d5fhvp4xsyutfqfpbrr9em8xr8xs8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Jack Schneider wrote: You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's instead of /dev/mdX. That removes the possibility that the kernel will change the mdX designations. Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions. Whatever you do, NEVER use the UUIDs of partitions, use the UUID of the md devices. The worst failure scenario involving MD and idiotic tools is for a tool to cause a component device to be mounted instead of the MD array. This is one of the reasons why the new MD formats that offset the data inside the component devices exists. If you want to use an md device's UUID in grub.cfg, you're going to have to edit it by hand or edit the grub2 scripts. AFAIK, they'll only use the md device names because they're unique (through their UUIDs). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinblbrvvh-2avsog49zejzepunc7nmnvvubs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Jack Schneider p...@dp-indexing.com wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:25:45 -0700 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility from a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end result was the names of the arrays were changed on the working 2 drives. IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127. Something else must have happened too. Because normally just adding arrays will not rename the existing arrays. I am not familiar with the Disk Utility that you mention. As I mentioned in a prior post,Grub was leaving me at a Grub rescueprompt. I followed this procedure: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell Booting now leaves me at a busy box: However the Grub menu is correct. With the correct kernels. So it appears that grub is now finding the root/boot partitions and files. Assemble the arrays at the busybox/initramfs prompt with --update=super-minor in order to update the minor. You can inspect the raid partitions with --detail and --examine. mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 mdadm --detail /dev/md0 mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 gives I think a clean result I have posted the output at : http://pastebin.com/pHpKjgK3 mdadm --detail /dev/md0 -- gives mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does not appear to be active. There is no /proc/mdstat data output. How about mdadm --detail /dev/md125 given that http://pastebin.com/pHpKjgK3 shows that sda1 and sdc1 have 125 as their minor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=et-gpncsaxuxqegkss7sprl8zj8zuhcwnl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
Jack Schneider wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility from a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end result was the names of the arrays were changed on the working 2 drives. IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127. Something else must have happened too. Because normally just adding arrays will not rename the existing arrays. I am not familiar with the Disk Utility that you mention. Hi, Bob Thanks for your encouraging advice... I believe you should be able to completely recover from the current problems. But it may be tedious and not completely trivial. You will just have to work through it. Now that there is more information available, and knowing that you are using software raid and lvm, let me guess. You added another physical extent (a new /dev/md2 partition) to the root volume group? If so that is a common problem. I have hit it myself on a number of occasions. You need to update the mdadm.conf file and rebuild the initrd. I will say more details about it as I go here in this message. As I mentioned in a prior post,Grub was leaving me at a Grub rescueprompt. I followed this procedure: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell That seems reasonable. It talks about how to drive the grub boot prompt to manually set up the boot. But you were talking about using a disk utility from a live cd to configure a new array with two new drives and that is where I was thinking that you had been modifying the arrays. It sounded like it anyway. Gosh it would be a lot easier if we could just pop in for a quick peek at the system in person. But we will just have to make do with the correspondence course. :-) Booting now leaves me at a busy box: However the Grub menu is correct. With the correct kernels. So it appears that grub is now finding the root/boot partitions and files. That sounds good. Hopefully not too bad off then. Next time instead you might just use mdadm directly. It really is quite easy to create new arrays using it. Here is an example that will create a new device /dev/md9 mirrored from two other devices /dev/sdy5 and /dev/sdz5. mdadm --create /dev/md9 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdy5 /dev/sdz5 Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives remains as /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The result is that Grub2 fails to boot the / array. This is how I created /dev/md2. Then that explains why it didn't change. Probably the HOMEHOST parameter is involved on the ones that changed. Using mdadm from the command line doesn't set that parameter. There was just a long discussion about this topic just recently. You might want to jump into it in the middle here and read our learnings with HOMEHOST. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg01105.html mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 gives I think a clean result I have posted the output at : http://pastebin.com/pHpKjgK3 That looks good to me. And healthy and normal. Looks good to me for that part. But that is only the first partition. That is just /dev/md0. Do you have any information on the other partitions? You can look at /proc/partitions to get a list of all of the partitions that the kernel knows about. cat /proc/partitions Then you can poke at the other ones too. But it looks like the filesystems are there okay. mdadm --detail /dev/md0 -- gives mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does not appear to be active. There is no /proc/mdstat data output. So it looks like the raid data is there on the disks but that the multidevice (md) module is not starting up in the kernel. Because it isn't starting then there aren't any /dev/md* devices and no status output in /proc/mdstat. I would boot a rescue image and then inspect the current configuration using the above commands. Hopefully that will show something wrong that can be fixed after you know what it is. I still think this is the best course of action for you. Boot a rescue disk into the system and then go from there. Do you have a Debian install disk #1 or Debian netinst or other installation disk? Any of those will have a rescue system that should boot your system okay. The Debian rescue disk will automatically search for raid partitions and automatically start the md modules. So it appears that I must rebuild my arrays. I think your arrays might be fine. More information is needed. You said your boot partition was /dev/md0. I assume that your root partition was /dev/md1? Then you added two new disks as /dev/md2? /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 Let me guess at the next two: /dev/md1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdc2 -- ?? missing info
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Jack Schneider wrote: You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's instead of /dev/mdX. That removes the possibility that the kernel will change the mdX designations. Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions. Whatever you do, NEVER use the UUIDs of partitions, use the UUID of the md devices. The worst failure scenario involving MD and idiotic tools is for a tool to cause a component device to be mounted instead of the MD array. This is one of the reasons why the new MD formats that offset the data inside the component devices exists. If you want to use an md device's UUID in grub.cfg, you're going to have to edit it by hand or edit the grub2 scripts. AFAIK, they'll only use the md device names because they're unique (through their UUIDs). You must either use /dev/md* or the MD device UUID. Anything else is going to bite you back, hard. There really isn't a reason to use UUIDs with MD. The md devices will _not_ move around, especially not when kernel autostart is non-operational (and it is not operational in any Debian kernel). But some initrd scripts will keep pestering you until you do switch to UUIDs everywhere. Annoying, that. OTOH, you will learn very fast to never ever forget to update /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf AND the initrds when you touch the md arrays... -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110116000103.ga20...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: [really solved] Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 15 ian 11, 19:42:26, Andrei Popescu wrote: Actually this only helps cleaning the system of unneeded packages, but still leaves me with a lot of packages not marked auto, so I had to apply Javier's hack after all. Ok, this looks like the best version so far: Backup: aptitude --disable-columns -F %p search '~i!~M' $PKG_LIST (in case you're wondering, my list currently has 177 packages) Restore (as root): aptitude -o Aptitude::Delete-Unused=false markauto ~i aptitude -o Aptitude::Delete-Unused=false unmarkauto $(cat $PKG_LIST | tr \n ) aptitude keep-all I still don't understand why 'Delete-Unused=false' is necessary with 'unmarkauto' and an additional 'keep-all' is needed, but at least it works. When you invoke aptitude unmarkauto ... aptitude has all your packages with auto mark, so aptitude will want to delete these unused packages *before* it start with your operation (unmarkauto in this case). I think it make sense Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin3pvvpesel6nfqmbd9sn-qtdgia4qlveydp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: changing grub boot order
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:36:07 +0200 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 15 ian 11, 14:55:08, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: as per the wiki I change the default in /etc/default/grub from 0 to 4. I ran update-grub. The same entry boots by default, i.e. it didn't work. Anyone know why ? Please post the outputs of 'grep default= /boot/grub/grub.cfg' and 'grep GRUB_DEFAULT /etc/default/grub'. GRUB_DEFAULT=4 set default=4 Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110115162417.747e0...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: [really solved] Re: aptitude: set all packages auto-installed except given list?
On Du, 16 ian 11, 01:00:50, Javier Barroso wrote: When you invoke aptitude unmarkauto ... aptitude has all your packages with auto mark, so aptitude will want to delete these unused packages *before* it start with your operation (unmarkauto in this case). I think it make sense Well, '(un)mark' seems to be doing more than just (un)marking packages which is a bit counter-intuitive to me... Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
I'm down on these drives due to the maniacal 8 second head park interval, which likely does more mechanical damage than it saves power in dollar terms. There is simply no concrete evidence to back this urban legend. In the WD20EARS I purchased this was in no way just a legend -- be it urban or rural or otherwise. I'd be really surprised if you had evidence that your drive failed because of mechanical damage due to aggressive head-park. And if your drive failed while still young, well that happens to the best of the drives, and is no evidence that those drives fail more often than others and even less that if they do it's due to the aggressive head-park. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwv39ottmgy.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
HD manufacturers and Free Software (was: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?)
MUST READ: Western Digital is unable to provide support for the Unix/Linux operating systems outside of jumper configurations (for EIDE hard drives) and physical installation support. While I never expect any OS-specific support from hard-drive suppliers, I find it offensive for a manufacturer to explicitly single out the OS I use, indeed. So, to get back to Debian, I wonder which manufacturers are more friendly to Free Software (e.g. provides tools to update their drives's firmware from systems like Debian). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwvwrm5s7px.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?
Read the ATA and SCSI specifications. Or ask on either mailing list. In short, the drive presents its LBA addressing based on 512B sectors. The kernel can't choose to ignore that--it's stuck with it. Since the drive is presenting LBA based on 512B sectors, there is no way the kernel can address LBA based on 4K sectors. I don't follow: what prevents the kernel from telling the higher-up tools that the drive uses 4KB sectors (or 72KB sectors for that matter)? In any case, the issue is probably not really in the kernel but in the filesystems and partitioning tools: all that's really needed to use the The current problem with the hybrid drives is that the partitioning utilities don't automatically align partitions on the underlying 4k sector boundaries. I'm glad we agree. Indeed, and for that reason 4KB physical blocks wouldn't cause additional disk space usage. The space savings with 4KB sectors has nothing to do with file systems or user data. I was talking about the space usage increase incurred from the use of ≥4KB blocks in the FS, if we assume that the FS uses the underlying HD block size as a lower-limit of its own block size. This is the ONLY reason these 4KB sector drives were developed: more actual end user space on the drive. That's a different topic, but an interesting one as well: the gain seems small (e.g. WD has/had two Green 2TB drives, one using 4KB sectors and the other using good'ol 512B sectors, and this using apparently the same underlying head/drive technology, so it seems the gain, if any, was too small to make it to the end user). So why does WD do that? Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwvr5cds7ch.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
OT: Output from date command - my little backup script
Is the output from the date command a string or integer wrt date +%w? I'm trying to test a condition in my backup script where i want to match on day of week = 0 The program flow I am trying to achieve is If the file exists and the day of the week is 0 then remove the file and set the day of the week to 0, otherwise set the day of the week to 0(perform Level 0 backup). From man test i have 2 possibilities that i'm aware of, $backuplevel -eq 0 and $backuplevel = 0 if [ -f $incrementalfile ] then backuplevel=`date +%w` if [ $backuplevel -eq 0] then rm $incrementalfile /dev/null 21 fi else backuplevel=0 fi I have also tried if [ $backuplevel = 0 ] But neither seems to match, that is to say that the incremental file does not get deleted so it continues to do an 'other than 0 level backup. The command echo $backuplevel returns 0 but I don't know if it is an integer or a string, or is it both? According to [1] Bash variables are untyped but I don't know why neither of them match and delete my file. Severely confused, Adrian [1] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/untyped.html -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? erno hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTikwd_ZVKn3-LjjM=nu31RCHgz9yk9hs60v=q...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Output from date command - my little backup script
Adrian Levi wrote: Is the output from the date command a string or integer wrt date +%w? The date command only produces string output. %w produces one of the characters 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I'm trying to test a condition in my backup script where i want to match on day of week = 0 The program flow I am trying to achieve is If the file exists and the day of the week is 0 then remove the file and set the day of the week to 0, otherwise set the day of the week to 0(perform Level 0 backup). From man test i have 2 possibilities that i'm aware of, $backuplevel -eq 0 and $backuplevel = 0 In the shell -eq is a numeric comparison and = is a string comparison. Sometimes that makes no difference. Sometimes that is a critically important difference. Although current shells will complain if it isn't a number. 00 -eq 0 00 != 0 02 -eq 2 02 != 2 if [ -f $incrementalfile ] then backuplevel=`date +%w` if [ $backuplevel -eq 0] You are missing a space after the 0 and before the ] and I am hoping that is simply an email glitch. But you must have a space there. if [ $backuplevel -eq 0 ] then rm $incrementalfile /dev/null 21 Redirecting the errors to /dev/null is bad. Because you have redirected the errors to /dev/null this may be unable to delete the file, throwing an error, and you won't get the error. Since you know the file was there because of the -f test above it I think you should just try to remove it, and not use rm -f either. rm $incrementalfile fi else backuplevel=0 fi Is there a question in there? I have also tried if [ $backuplevel = 0 ] Sure. String comparison should work okay there. But neither seems to match, that is to say that the incremental file does not get deleted so it continues to do an 'other than 0 level backup. Run the script with sh -x and see what commands are traced. sh -x ./myscript Use echo to print out lines in question. echo DEBUG: if [ $backuplevel -eq 0 ] if [ $backuplevel -eq 0 ] echo DEBUG: Removing with: rm -f $backuplevel rm -f $backuplevel You can use the command line to try things. $ test 0 -eq 0 echo yes || echo no yes $ test 0 = 0 echo yes || echo no yes $ test 00 -eq 0 echo yes || echo no yes $ test 00 = 0 echo yes || echo no no The command echo $backuplevel returns 0 but I don't know if it is an integer or a string, or is it both? The shell is only working with strings. It doesn't become a number until it is forced into an integer comparison such as [ 0 -eq 0 ]. According to [1] Bash variables are untyped They are untyped because they are all strings. but I don't know why neither of them match and delete my file. I don't see a problem (other than the missing space) but by using such techniques as above you should be able to find it. If it is the missing space then you should have seen this error: $ [ 0 -eq 0] [: 1: missing `]' So I assume it is a typo in your cut-n-paste. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?
Hi, Stefan Monnier wrote: Read the ATA and SCSI specifications. Or ask on either mailing list. In short, the drive presents its LBA addressing based on 512B sectors. The kernel can't choose to ignore that--it's stuck with it. Since the drive is presenting LBA based on 512B sectors, there is no way the kernel can address LBA based on 4K sectors. http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Kernel-Log-Coming-in-2-6-37-Part-3-Network-and-storage-hardware-1153025.html quote Storage - The H Open Source: News and Features Numerous changes to the network and storage code are to increase processing speed and improve the system's hardware support. Among the new additions are a PPTP stack, various drivers for Wi-Fi hardware by Atheros, Broadcom and Realtek, and code for hard disks with a logical sector size of 4 Kbytes /quote Now, when will stable release have a 2.6.37 kernel? And are all those changes non-free -- so to be included in supported versions of Debian? -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d32a2c1.8000...@affinityvision.com.au
