Re: Problema amb Slashdot
25/03/11 @ 23:31 (+0100), ilion1...@gmail.com escriu: Sembla que la cosa és més greu tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb cap programa (Amarok i gPodder). En el ordinador que te lenny cap problema el problema és a l'ordinador que te squeeze. Crec que ha estat alguna actualització d'aquesta setmana ja que fins ara tant Iceweassel com el baixar podcasts funcionava correctament. Acabo de provar-ho i tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb el gPodder. Amb el telnet veig que dóna error 502 Bad Gateway: ernest@doriath:~$ telnet www.bbc.co.uk 80 Trying 212.58.246.95... Connected to www.bbc.net.uk. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.bbc.net.uk HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway Content-Length: 208 Proxy-Connection: close Content-Type: text/html Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:09:35 GMT htmlheadtitleConnection Error/title/headbodyh1Connection Error/h1pUnable to connect to the requested site./ph3Details/h3Error resolving hostname www.bbc.net.uk: timed out/body/htmlConnection closed by foreign host. No hi entenc massa però m'atreviria a dir que és un problema de l'ISP, en el meu cas, Telefonica. -- Ernest -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326121844.GA7113@doriath.local
Re: Problema amb Slashdot
EL Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:18:44 +0100 Ernest Adrogué eadro...@gmx.net escrigué: 25/03/11 @ 23:31 (+0100), ilion1...@gmail.com escriu: Sembla que la cosa és més greu tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb cap programa (Amarok i gPodder). En el ordinador que te lenny cap problema el problema és a l'ordinador que te squeeze. Crec que ha estat alguna actualització d'aquesta setmana ja que fins ara tant Iceweassel com el baixar podcasts funcionava correctament. Acabo de provar-ho i tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb el gPodder. Amb el telnet veig que dóna error 502 Bad Gateway: ernest@doriath:~$ telnet www.bbc.co.uk 80 Trying 212.58.246.95... Connected to www.bbc.net.uk. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.bbc.net.uk HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway Content-Length: 208 Proxy-Connection: close Content-Type: text/html Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:09:35 GMT htmlheadtitleConnection Error/title/headbodyh1Connection Error/h1pUnable to connect to the requested site./ph3Details/h3Error resolving hostname www.bbc.net.uk: timed out/body/htmlConnection closed by foreign host. No hi entenc massa però m'atreviria a dir que és un problema de l'ISP, en el meu cas, Telefonica. Jo també tinc telefònica com ISP, però amb el Chromium si que puc carregar les pàgines i amb el portàtil que porta lenny puc fer-ho tot sense cap problema. Jo crec que potser el problema es deu a alguna actualització feta durant els darrers dies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326202500.6cea6...@kronos.fju
Re: Problema amb Slashdot
He trobat una solució provisional que consisteix en el següent: Has canviar les DNS i posar 8.8.8.8 i 8.8.4.4 i seguidament (per no perdre la informació posar les actuals les quals possiblement si com jo el teu ISP es telefònica seran 195.235.113.3, 195.235.96.90. En tornar a obrir els programes ja podràs navegar pels sites de la BBC i baixar podcasts de a BBC. Per tant com deies tot sembla indicar que potser el problema es als servidors DNS de telefònica tot i que en el portàtil amb lenny em funciona correctament. Miraré si els puc enviar un mail o una trucada al 1004 2011/3/26 Ernest Adrogué eadro...@gmx.net 25/03/11 @ 23:31 (+0100), ilion1...@gmail.com escriu: Sembla que la cosa és més greu tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb cap programa (Amarok i gPodder). En el ordinador que te lenny cap problema el problema és a l'ordinador que te squeeze. Crec que ha estat alguna actualització d'aquesta setmana ja que fins ara tant Iceweassel com el baixar podcasts funcionava correctament. Acabo de provar-ho i tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb el gPodder. Amb el telnet veig que dóna error 502 Bad Gateway: ernest@doriath:~$ telnet www.bbc.co.uk 80 Trying 212.58.246.95... Connected to www.bbc.net.uk. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.bbc.net.uk HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway Content-Length: 208 Proxy-Connection: close Content-Type: text/html Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:09:35 GMT htmlheadtitleConnection Error/title/headbodyh1Connection Error/h1pUnable to connect to the requested site./ph3Details/h3Error resolving hostname www.bbc.net.uk: timed out/body/htmlConnection closed by foreign host. No hi entenc massa però m'atreviria a dir que és un problema de l'ISP, en el meu cas, Telefonica. -- Ernest -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326121844.GA7113@doriath.local
Re: Problema amb Slashdot
EL Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:04:48 +0100 Confirmat que el tema de la BBC es un problema de telefònica, he contactat amb ells per xat i m'han indicat que efectivament els seus servidors DNS tenen alguns problemes amb les pàgines estrangeres, realment és una sorpresa sorprenent ja que es de suposar que la gent no només és connecta a pàgines d'Espanya i a més la BBC es un lloc de força tràfic. Per tant de moment deixo les DNS de google i apa. 25/03/11 @ 23:31 (+0100), ilion1...@gmail.com escriu: Sembla que la cosa és més greu tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb cap programa (Amarok i gPodder). En el ordinador que te lenny cap problema el problema és a l'ordinador que te squeeze. Crec que ha estat alguna actualització d'aquesta setmana ja que fins ara tant Iceweassel com el baixar podcasts funcionava correctament. Acabo de provar-ho i tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb el gPodder. Amb el telnet veig que dóna error 502 Bad Gateway: ernest@doriath:~$ telnet www.bbc.co.uk 80 Trying 212.58.246.95... Connected to www.bbc.net.uk. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.bbc.net.uk HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway Content-Length: 208 Proxy-Connection: close Content-Type: text/html Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:09:35 GMT htmlheadtitleConnection Error/title/headbodyh1Connection Error/h1pUnable to connect to the requested site./ph3Details/h3Error resolving hostname www.bbc.net.uk: timed out/body/htmlConnection closed by foreign host. No hi entenc massa però m'atreviria a dir que és un problema de l'ISP, en el meu cas, Telefonica. -- Ernest -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326121844.GA7113@doriath.local -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326230841.0a6e1...@kronos.fju
Re: double écran lxde
Le vendredi 25 mars 2011 à 22:23 +0100, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:02:01 +0100, nono pingven...@free.fr a écrit : Salut J'ai installé sur mon système un double écran avec l'environnement graphique lxde. Tout fonctionne correctement, cependant : à l'ouverture de session je dois saisir le nom de login et mot de passe dans 2 champs qui se trouvent à cheval sur les 2 écrans. Ce n'est pas dramatique mais c'est disgracieux et donc primordial ;) exemple avec login « marcel » et mot de passe « monmdp » : - - | | | | |mar| |cel| |mon| |mdp| | | | | | | | | - - écran gaucheécran droit Comment obtenir ceci : (avec login et mdp sur le même écran) ? - - | | | | |marcel | | | |monmdp | | | | | | | | | | | - - écran gaucheécran droit nono bonjour, serait il posssible de donner les options employées pour xorg et de les comparer vis à vis de ces liens : http://www.debian-fr.org/xrandr-dual-screen-t25961.html http://www.guim.info/dokuwiki/debian/dual_screen Je vais regardé cela lundi. Le système utilise une carte nvdia avec le pilote proprio (désolé) car je n'y arrivai pas autrement. descriptif de xinerama : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama un lien plus ancien : http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/translations/fr/html-1page/Xinerama-HOWTO.html http://www.xfree86.org/current/chips5.html ensuite serait il possible de savoir si xinerama est employé ? liste des paquets : dpkg -l |awk '{print $2 $3}'|grep xinerama Merci pour la commande. Il me semble que j'avais installé xinerama dans mes divers essais mais je ne pourrai pas dire que le système s'en sert. Je regarde cela de plus près dès lundi. merci Bernard nono slt bernard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
On 03/25/2011 09:03 PM, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:44:52 +0100 maderiosmader...@gmail.com wrote: ... Ma question intrinsèque était: comment les autres distributions arrivent à contourner le problème ? Les bases de méta-données, cele se sauvegarde Tout simplement en fournissant des packages qu'elle savent pertinemment buggés... Bonjour Oui, mais d'un autre coté, ces distributions, à la différence de Debian, ont un rôle moteur en soumettant aux utilisateurs des versions de Digikam pas vraiment stables. On peut constater sur la liste digikam-us...@kde.org que le développement est grandement aidé par les retours des utilisateurs.C'est une démarche inspirée de ce qui est décrit dans La cathédrale et le bazar, texte inspiré de la démarche originale de L.Torvalds. distribuez vite et souvent, déléguez tout ce que vous pouvez déléguer, soyez ouverts jusqu'à la promiscuité http://www.linux-france.org/article/these/cathedrale-bazar/cathedrale-bazar_monoblock.html M PS: La démarche bazar peut également produire ses fruits en politique, mais c'est un autre débat . -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8daee0.4050...@gmail.com
Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:16:16 +0100, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : On 03/25/2011 09:03 PM, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:44:52 +0100 maderiosmader...@gmail.com wrote: ... Ma question intrinsèque était: comment les autres distributions arrivent à contourner le problème ? Les bases de méta-données, cele se sauvegarde Tout simplement en fournissant des packages qu'elle savent pertinemment buggés... Bonjour Oui, mais d'un autre coté, ces distributions, à la différence de Debian, ont un rôle moteur en soumettant aux utilisateurs des versions de Digikam pas vraiment stables. On peut constater sur la liste digikam-us...@kde.org que le développement est grandement aidé par les retours des utilisateurs.C'est une démarche inspirée de ce qui est décrit dans La cathédrale et le bazar, texte inspiré de la démarche originale de L.Torvalds. distribuez vite et souvent, déléguez tout ce que vous pouvez déléguer, soyez ouverts jusqu'à la promiscuité http://www.linux-france.org/article/these/cathedrale-bazar/cathedrale-bazar_monoblock.html M PS: La démarche bazar peut également produire ses fruits en politique, mais c'est un autre débat . bonjour, réponse : oui, mais ... remarque simple et maxime : l'on ne peut avoir le beurre, l'argent du beurre et le sourire de la crémière ... autre point : apt-cache rdepends digikam digikam Reverse Depends: kipi-plugins kdelibs-data ezgo-imaging showfoto showfoto showfoto digikam-dbg digikam-data digikam-data digikam-doc education-desktop-kde apt-cache depends digikam digikam Dépend: kdebase-runtime Dépend: kdepim-runtime Dépend: libc6 Dépend: libgcc1 Dépend: libglib2.0-0 Dépend: libgphoto2-2 Dépend: libgphoto2-port0 Dépend: libjasper1 Dépend: libjpeg62 Dépend: libkabc4 Dépend: libkdcraw8 Dépend: libkde3support4 Dépend: libkdecore5 Dépend: libkdeui5 Dépend: libkexiv2-8 Dépend: libkfile4 Dépend: libkhtml5 Dépend: libkio5 Dépend: libkipi7 Dépend: libkjsapi4 Dépend: libknotifyconfig4 Dépend: libkparts4 Dépend: libkresources4 Dépend: libkutils4 Dépend: liblcms1 Dépend: liblensfun0 Dépend: liblqr-1-0 Dépend: libmarblewidget4 Dépend: libphonon4 Dépend: libpng12-0 Dépend: libqt4-dbus Dépend: libqt4-network Dépend: libqt4-qt3support Dépend: libqt4-sql Dépend: libqt4-svg Dépend: libqt4-xml Dépend: libqtcore4 Dépend: libqtgui4 Dépend: libsolid4 Dépend: libstdc++6 Dépend: libtiff4 Dépend: libx11-6 Dépend: libxau6 Dépend: libxdmcp6 Dépend: phonon Dépend: zlib1g Dépend: libqt4-sql-sqlite Dépend: digikam-data Suggère: digikam-doc Recommande: www-browser conkeror edbrowse elinks-lite elvis-console lynx-cur netsurf netsurf-gtk netsurf-linuxfb netsurf-sdl netsurf-vnc uzbl chimera2 chromium elinks elvis epiphany-browser galeon iceape-browser iceweasel kazehakase konqueror links links2 midori netrik opera rekonq surf xemacs21-mule xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn xemacs21-nomule w3m Recommande: kipi-plugins résultat, en trépignant de colère sur le fait que la version est obsolète par rapport aux petit copains qui en ont une plus belle l'utilisateur est prêt à prendre le risque de faire écrouler le tout comme un chateau de cartes ... Si Vous tennez exactement à obtenir la dernière version de votre pouic-pouic photo, prend le fichier sources et installe le avec la procédure et les outils suivants : dh-di - Debhelper addon for debian-installer dh-make - Outil de conversion des archives sources en paquet source Debian dh-autoreconf - debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build autoconf - automatic configure script builder maint-guide-fr - French translation of Debian New Maintainers' Guide debian-builder - reconstruction de paquets Debian à partir du code source et voici les liens : http://www.deepnet.cx/debbuild/ http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/How-to-make-deb-packages/ lien et procédure pour télécharger : http://www.digikam.org/drupal/download?q=download/GIT et la motivation du team debian : http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=digikam http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/digikam.html http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org.html#digikam cqfd slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:
Détection de lecteur CD sous Gnome
Bonjour, Sous Debian stable (6), les lecteurs IDE de CD ou DVD pleins sont détectés de façon aléatoire sous Nautilus. Seul un montage à la main (mount) fonctionne à tous les coups chez moi (sauf parfois sur le lecteur LG un peu fatigué) et alors, par miracle, Gnome voit enfin le lecteur. Pas toujours pratique quand on est pressé. Quand le lecteur est vide, suivant sa marque (LG pour les CD seuls ou graveur DVD NEC), il est parfois détecté, parfois pas. Les entrées /dev/sr0 et sr1 existent pourtant toujours. Fonctionneemnt parfait avec l'USB. Où cela se règle t-il ? Gvfs ? HAL ? Pourquoi je n'ai jamais vu ce genre de problème sous Mandriva ? HAL ne doit t-il pas disparaître à terme ? Où règlera t-on ce comportement ? Je rappelle qu'autofs que l'on rencontre partout dans les docs n'est pratiquement pas utilisé pour ça par les distributions, donc oublions car peu pratique. Beaucoup de questions -- Alain Rpnpif -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326111800.0310e...@arrcuis.home
Re: freeze après mise en veille et hibernation
Bonjour, tout d'abord désolé du temps d'absence. Je n'ai que très de temps pour bidouiller sur cet ordinateur. On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:28:46 +0100, Daniel Caillibaud wrote: dpkg -l |awk '/ii.*acpi/ {print }' list-pkg-acpi.txt ou (plus lent car aptitude plus lourd, mais syntaxe peut-être plus simple à mémoriser) aptitude search acpi~i list-pkg-acpi.txt Voici mon fichier list-pkg-acpi.txt : acpi 1.5-2 acpi-fakekey 0.137-5 acpi-support 0.137-5 acpi-support-base 0.137-5 acpid 1:2.0.7-1 On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:25:18 +0100, manuk7 wrote: Cependant par un moment j'utilisais s2ram (paquet uswsusp) pour passer en veille, et ça freezait (généralement quelques minutes après la sortie de veille). On m'a alors conseillé d'utiliser pm-suspend (paquet pm-utils), et je n'avais plus de problème de freeze ensuite. J'ai regardé, en console, la commande s2ram est introuvable et le paquet uswsusp n'existe pas sur les dêpots. En revanche pm-suspend est présent. J'en déduit donc que c'est celui qui est utilisé. Sinon je continue à faire des tests. Merci pour votre aide ! Florian HEGRON -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1e8654f2835cc74d4df97d14fd396...@iiiha.com
[RESOLU] freeze après mise en veille et hibernation
Bonjour, Après avoir eu le temps de bidouiller comme expliqué dans mon précédent message, J'ai trouvé une solution. Entre le probleme de manuk7 et le problème inverse cité ici, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=561877 (dont la solution ne marche pas chez moi, car ce n'est pas le même modèle de pc (ni la même marque)), j'ai remarqué que ce pour qui ça ne marchait pas avec pm-suspend, cela fonctionnait avec s2ram, et vice et versa. J'ai donc pris sur les dếpots sid le paquet uswsusp et je peux désinstallé désormais pm-utils. Reste plus qu'à me documenter pour savoir comment remplacer le chemin du bouton mettre en veille de gnome. Merci à tous, Amicalement, Florian HEGRON -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1e691be98a3ffd1c7890465c2ac1e...@iiiha.com
Re: [RESOLU] freeze après mise en veille et hibernation
Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:43:06 +0100, hog...@iiiha.com a écrit : Bonjour, Après avoir eu le temps de bidouiller comme expliqué dans mon précédent message, J'ai trouvé une solution. Entre le probleme de manuk7 et le problème inverse cité ici, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=561877 (dont la solution ne marche pas chez moi, car ce n'est pas le même modèle de pc (ni la même marque)), j'ai remarqué que ce pour qui ça ne marchait pas avec pm-suspend, cela fonctionnait avec s2ram, et vice et versa. J'ai donc pris sur les dếpots sid le paquet uswsusp et je peux désinstallé désormais pm-utils. Reste plus qu'à me documenter pour savoir comment remplacer le chemin du bouton mettre en veille de gnome. Merci à tous, Amicalement, Florian HEGRON Bonjour, Enfin un message encourageant et indiquant l'évolution positive et les progrès du novice ... Félicitation, il est dans la bonne voie slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326154034.18b6b93c.bernard.schoenacker_free.fr@hamtaro
Re: [HS] Bad news
Le 4 mars 2011, Antoine a écrit : Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit : http://www.lessentiel.lu/fr/news/france/story/Les-mots-de-passe-obligees-d-e-tre-conservees-18954131 Bonjour, Je crois que le texte paru au journal officiel est le suivant : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do;jsessionid=83DE652BF02120481DFB772C6EDECB22.tpdjo12v_2?cidTexte=JORFTEXT23646013categorieLien=id Je sais bien que ça sort à priori des objectifs de la liste, hormis peut être pour certaines implications techniques qui dépassent mes compétences, mais en temps que modeste debianiste et internaute (je surfe, je m'informe, je blogue -donc je produit du contenu en ligne, je discute et j'achète), je ne suis pas sûr -ou alors ma candeur m'enpêche- de décrypter correctement ce décret (qui effectivement ne sort pas de nulle part), et je cherche éventuellement un article, une analyse, un embryon de réflexion sur les implications effective de ce texte, y compris techniques. Un lien ? Des idées ? Des remarques ? Voilà, voilà. Vous êtes tous des délinquants en puissance ou plutôt on vous considère comme des enfants immatures et dangereux. Donc, vous devez rendre des comptes à Big Brother (mégalomanie, électoralisme malsain et j'en passe) ou à la Komm.. Si les tunisiens, les égytiens avaient eu ce décret chez eux au moins leurs chefs les auraient empêchés de mettre une pagaille sans nom. Vous vous rendez compte, ils veulent la démocratie, le pouvoir au peuple et puis quoi encore ! Heureusement, en France, pays démcratique nous avons ce décret qui empêche les dérives terhorhistes ! N'en disons pas plus (fichage and co). Bien le bonjour chez vous. -- Alain Rpnpif -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326161709.2eed2...@arrcuis.home
Re: [HS] Bad news
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:17:09 +0100 Alain Rpnpif rpn...@free.fr wrote: ... Voilà, voilà. Vous êtes tous des délinquants en puissance ou plutôt on vous considère comme des enfants immatures et dangereux. C'est le credo de base de tous les gouvernements de ce pays... Donc, vous devez rendre des comptes à Big Brother (mégalomanie, électoralisme malsain et j'en passe) ou à la Komm.. andantur - le point Godwin a depuis longtemps été dépassé par ces guignols qui esquissent un ersatz de pays libre et le vendent comme une démocratie. Si les tunisiens, les égytiens avaient eu ce décret chez eux au moins leurs chefs les auraient empêchés de mettre une pagaille sans nom. Vous vous rendez compte, ils veulent la démocratie, le pouvoir au peuple et puis quoi encore ! Heureusement, en France, pays démcratique nous avons ce décret qui empêche les dérives terhorhistes ! C'est l'idée: bientôt les pays du sud seront plus démocratiques que les oligarchies occidentales; un comble (non-aménagé:) N'en disons pas plus (fichage and co). Bien le bonjour chez vous. JE NE SUIS PAS UN NUMÉRO! ;-p -- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. -- Aleister Crowley -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326163416.3ea51141@osiris.defcon1
Re: KMS, Intel, kernel 2.6.38... rien de nouveau !
Le 22 mars 2011, Anthony Bourguignon a écrit : C'est justement le but de KMS, d'être en résolution native dès le boot. Perso je l'utilises avec ma radeon depuis que ça a été intégré dans le kernel et j'ai toujours pas trouvé de point négatif. Plus de transitions du au changement de résolution entre la console et X par exemple. C'est appréciable. Et bien sur ma vieille Radeon, ça fait planter certains logiciels dont Firefox. Donc exit KMS pour l'instant, on verra plus tard. -- Alain Rpnpif -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326182843.5f5dd...@arrcuis.home
RE: [HS] Bad news
Le 4 mars 2011, Antoine a écrit : Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit : http://www.lessentiel.lu/fr/news/france/story/Les-mots-de-passe-obligees-d-e-tre-conservees-18954131 Bonjour, Je crois que le texte paru au journal officiel est le suivant : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do;jsessionid=83DE652BF02120481DFB772C6EDECB22.tpdjo12v_2?cidTexte=JORFTEXT23646013categorieLien=id Bonjour, Ce décret vient compléter les lois informatique et libertés et economie numérique en précisant les données qui doivent être conservées par les hébergeurs de site internet ou les personnes qui fournissent un service de communication en ligne comme Youtube par exemple. D'après ma propre analyse juridique, je pense que Ebay et twitter ne sont pas concernés par le décret. On entend par communication au public en ligne toute transmission, sur demande individuelle, de données numériques n'ayant pas un caractère de correspondance privée, par un procédé de communication électronique permettant un échange réciproque d'informations entre l'émetteur et le récepteur. Concernant Ebay : il y a un échange de données mais pas d'échange réciproque d'information (au sens légal et non pas informatique). En effet, les échanges entre le vendeur et l'acheteur sont des correspondaces privées (à la différence de commentaire laissée sur un blog ou dans un forum). Concernant Twitter : la question est plus délicate, néanmoins dans la mesure où l'on peut choisr des tweets privés réservés aux seuls membres choisis, il me semble que la question reste délicate. De même pour Facebook dans la mesure où l'utilisateur peut restreindre les accès à ses seuls amis. Même si cela concerne les seuls choix d'un utilisateur , la loi ne pourrait pas s'appliquer de manière aussi générale. Evidemment, l'actualité fait pencher pour une interprétation large : http://www.lemonde.fr/tiny/1498945/#xtor=AL-32280258 mais je ne suis pas aussi convaincu. L'objectif de ce décret me semble plus destiné à éviter l'usurpation d'identité sur internet, dans la mesure où une personne qui mettrait à disposition des logiciels contrefaits, pourrait ouvrir un compte sous une fausse identité que destiné à trouver des activistes quelconques ou pour traquer la liberté d'expression... De même que la li dans l'économie numérique a évité que les prestataires de services en ligne puissent modifier unilatéralement leur conditions générales de vente sans prévenir leur usager en imposant l'obligation de conserver de manière sécurisée les contrats conclus en ligne. Voici une première lecture / analyse. Bon week end Romain
Re: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
’soir, Le samedi 26 mars 2011 à 01:53:42, Thibault Dupuis a écrit : Le 25 mars 2011 à 23:59, tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : Bonsoir, j'utilise Digikam au quotidien et je confirme qu'il s'agit d'un logiciel parfaitement adapté à la gestion de larges photothèques […] Je suis d'accord avec ce qui a été dit. J'ai utilisé pendant pas mal de temps DigiKam avec une grosse base de données de photos et je n'ai jamais eu de soucis avec. […] Mais arrêtez, puisque Bernard vous dit qu’il a raison, enfin ! Quand verrez-vous la lumière ? -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103262039.13729.sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr
Re: [HS] Bad news
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:13:07 +0100 romain boucq rbo...@alter-via.fr wrote: ... Concernant Twitter : la question est plus délicate, néanmoins dans la mesure où l'on peut choisr des tweets privés réservés aux seuls membres choisis, il me semble que la question reste délicate. De même pour Facebook dans la mesure où l'utilisateur peut restreindre les accès à ses seuls amis. Même si cela concerne les seuls choix d'un utilisateur , la loi ne pourrait pas s'appliquer de manière aussi générale. Evidemment, l'actualité fait pencher pour une interprétation large : http://www.lemonde.fr/tiny/1498945/#xtor=AL-32280258 mais je ne suis pas aussi convaincu. Faux, puisque le législateur débile (pléonasme typiquement de ce pays) a considéré que l'e-mail n'était pas privé; d'où point de départ initial ET biaisé. L'objectif de ce décret me semble plus destiné à éviter l'usurpation d'identité sur internet, dans la mesure où une personne qui mettrait à disposition des logiciels contrefaits, pourrait ouvrir un compte sous une fausse identité que destiné à trouver des activistes quelconques ou pour traquer la liberté d'expression... Faux, l'optique de ce décret est de fliquer tous les intervenants en les dissuadants par là-même d'intervenir et de contredire le pouvoir en place; heureusement certains des blogs dissidents ne sont pas hébergés dans le pays qui a inventé les droits de l'homme et les violent allègrement... De même que la li dans l'économie numérique a évité que les prestataires de services en ligne puissent modifier unilatéralement leur conditions générales de vente sans prévenir leur usager en imposant l'obligation de conserver de manière sécurisée les contrats conclus en ligne. Voici une première lecture / analyse. À minima; les ennemis de la liberté d'expression ont TOUJOURS une première lecture à minima. Bon week end Pas vraiment. Romain Rom'2 -- I'm having a BIG BANG THEORY!! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326222542.78022bc7@osiris.defcon1
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Re: Musyawarah (Rapat) Tahunan
On 11/03/11 09:33, Izharul Haq wrote: Komunitas Debian GNU/Linux Indonesia kembali mengadakan Musyawarah (Rapat) Tahunan untuk para peminat, pengguna calon pengembang Debian. Hari: Sabtu Tanggal: 19 Maret 2011 Jam: 21:00 s.d. 22:00* Tempat: IRC kanal #debian-id server irc.debian.org (OFTC)** Catatan khusus: 1. Bagi yang punya keterkaitan dengan IDDP (Indonesian Debian Documentation Project) dimohon kesediaannya untuk hadir. 2. Dimohon untuk membantu meng-informasikan kepada teman-teman lainnya***. Terimakasih. * Info Waktu : http://time.is/Indonesia ** IRC Chat : http://debian-id.org/irc-chat/ *** Info Acara di FB : http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139641059436338 Regards, Izhar Ul-Haq (atoz-chevara) | http://atoz.debian-id.org Contact : 0853 700 338 33 Indonesian Debian Localization and Translation Team Hallo, ada lognya tidak? hasil dari rapat ini dapat dilihat dimana? -- [ Mahyuddin Susanto ] - signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Re: (OT) Ventanas metidas en la izquierda de la pantalla
2011/3/25 José Manuel (EB8CXW) eb8cx...@infonegocio.com: El 25/03/11 12:12, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:10:06 +, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió: De un tiempo a esta parte, la ventanas al abrirse (consola, iceweasel, icedove, etc.) se queda incrustada en la parte izquierda, y tengo que moverlas hacia la derecha para poderlas visualizar bien. He revisado las preferencias del sistema, pero no veo donde puedo cambiar ese comportamiento para que cuando se abran no se sitúen a la izquierda. ¿Qué entorno gráfico usas (gnome, kde...)? Deberían mantenerse automáticamente el tamaño y la posición de la ventana tras el último cierre... por curiosidad, ¿qué sucede si la maximizas y pulsas el botón de cerrar [x], la vuelve a abrir mal colocada y sin maximizar? :-? Saludos, Hola Gracias por contestar, Camaleón lo mande al privado. He realizado lo que indica Ivan, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , pero no hace nada, sigue todo igual. Camaleón, he realizado lo que me indicas, con la consola, pero al abrirse sigue igual queda a la izquierda, y no se abre maximizada sino pequeña. Que entorno de escritorio y manejador de ventanas usas? No tendrás instalado el devilspie [0] o algún programa similar? Este programa espera a que se creen ventanas y realiza alguna acción sobre ellas (como redimensionarlas y moverlas a alguna parte de la pantalla). Saludos [0] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/devilspie -- Linux Registered User # 386081 A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimzsah1trczsw0bh2fispc7n6w3ubrxugzwy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin
On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 00:06:08 Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:39:25 +0100, BasaBuru escribió: ¿Y si creas un lanzador en el escritorio (vim.desktop) que ejecute sencillamente la orden terminator -e vim eliminando así cualquier interpretación errónea que pueda hacer del paso de parámetros adicional al tener que abrir el archivo? ¿Funciona o no hace nada? funciona No sé, es raro, esperaría ver algún error que lo haga pararse. Pon la salida de terminator -d a ver qué dice. mas abajo Tengo mis dudas... más que nada por el mensaje de error que has puesto (terminator: error: Additional unexpected arguments found: ['/home/ basati/default.gpfl']). Si, yo también parece que kde le pasa el fichero a abrir como un argumento a terminator que no es capaz de entender como que tiene que abrir el fichero. Si konsole funciona y xterm funciona cuando las configuras como terminales predeterminadas de KDE y KDE pasa los mismos parámetros para todas ellas ¿por qué sólo falla con terminator? :-? Porque es un bug de terminator??? no se me ocurre nada mas. Después de todas las pruebas. Un saludo BasaBuru Pasteo la salida terminator -d basati@basatu:~$ terminator -d noclass::parse_options: OptionParse::parse_options: command line options: {'profile': None, 'nodbus': None, 'execute': None, 'layout': 'default', 'dummy': None, 'geometry': None, 'fullscreen': None, 'debug_methods': None, 'maximise': None, 'debug': 1, 'debug_classes': None, 'version': None, 'working_directory': None, 'borderless': None, 'forcedtitle': None, 'command': None, 'hidden': None, 'role': None} ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: dbus found in globals: False noclass::module: dbus disabled noclass::module: dbus not imported Factory::__init__: Borg::__init__: Preparing borg state for Factory Terminator::__init__: Borg::__init__: Preparing borg state for Terminator ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default noclass::get_pid_cwd: Using Linux get_pid_cwd Terminator::attempt_gnome_client: GNOME session support enabled and registered ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: handle_size found in globals: -1 noclass::module: Creating a terminal with layout: default Terminator::create_layout: Creating a window Factory::make: Factory::make: created a Window Terminator::register_window: Terminator::register_window: registering 34904176:class 'terminatorlib.window.Window' ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: window_state found in globals: normal ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: window_state found in globals: normal ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: window_state found in globals: normal ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: borderless found in globals: False Window::set_real_transparency: setting rgb colormap Factory::make: Factory::make: created a Terminal Terminator::register_terminal: Terminator::register_terminal: registering 36882304:class 'terminatorlib.terminal.Terminal' ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default Terminal::__init__: composite_support: True ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: try_posix_regexp found in globals: False Terminal::update_url_matches: Terminal::update_url_matches: Trying GNU URL regexps PluginRegistry::__init__: Borg::__init__: Preparing borg state for PluginRegistry PluginRegistry::prepare_attributes: PluginRegistry::prepare_attributes: Plugin path: ['/usr/share/terminator/terminatorlib/plugins', '/home/basati/.config/terminator/plugins'] ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default PluginRegistry::load_plugins: PluginRegistry::load_plugins: Importing plugin testplugin.py ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: enabled_plugins found in globals: ['LaunchpadBugURLHandler', 'LaunchpadCodeURLHandler', 'APTURLHandler'] PluginRegistry::load_plugins: plugin TestPlugin not enabled, skipping PluginRegistry::load_plugins: PluginRegistry::load_plugins: Importing plugin maven.py ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: enabled_plugins found in globals: ['LaunchpadBugURLHandler', 'LaunchpadCodeURLHandler', 'APTURLHandler'] PluginRegistry::load_plugins: plugin MavenPluginURLHandler not enabled, skipping PluginRegistry::load_plugins: PluginRegistry::load_plugins: Importing plugin activitywatch.py ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: enabled_plugins found in globals: ['LaunchpadBugURLHandler', 'LaunchpadCodeURLHandler', 'APTURLHandler'] PluginRegistry::load_plugins: plugin ActivityWatch not
Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin
2011/3/25 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org: On Jueves 24 Marzo 2011 09:49:41 Camaleón escribió: Hum... que no haga nada parece indicar que la instancia que lanzas se muere (en silencio) por lo que quizá lo que falle sea la propia aplicación terminator. Ya he contestado mas abajo en el hilo que peta por que piensa que el fichero son argumentos de ejecución y no se aclara. Peta sin mas. ¿Has probado a ejecutarlo en modo de depuración? No sé cómo irá terminator pero mira a ver si te permite lanzarlo con algún parámetro (- d) para ver si te saca algo más. Si lo probé pero no decia nada anormal, pero si lo piensas es lógico lo lanzo yo y se abre el terminal sin problemas. La cuestión yo creo que está en un bug en kde. Tu le das a abrir y ve que es una aplicación de terminal y tira del terminal configurado como por defecto pero le pasa mal los parámetros. Otra cosa que puedes probar es simular lo que hace KDE cuando le dices abrir con Por ejemplo, lanza una consola (konsole, xterm, terminator...) y ejecuta: terminator -e vim A ver qué te dice :-? Se abre sin problemas, por eso estaba y estoy tan mosca. Acabo de instalarlo y en el man indica que uses -x si quieres usar argumentos en tu comando en lugar de -e (si no los toma como argumentos del propio terminator). O sea usa abrir con... y coloca `terminator -x vim`. Saludos -- Linux Registered User # 386081 A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinSM1HFJGiJtKLnfW4tYZE2y7w7E�jdtx7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Crear Usb booteable de Win7 desde Linux
Prueba directamente con unetbootin que esta en los repositorios y graba una iso de tu w7 haber si funciona. -- かれてろ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html
Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6
uNetbootin -- かれてろ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html
Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin
On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 08:23:23 Carlos Zuniga escribió: 2011/3/25 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org: Acabo de instalarlo y en el man indica que uses -x si quieres usar argumentos en tu comando en lugar de -e (si no los toma como argumentos del propio terminator). Primero mea culpa, no leer la docu. Pero estaba tan convencido de que era un problema de kde que no miraba otra cosa Ahora esto sigue sin resolver el problema. Si en aplicaciones preferidas selecciono terminator -x y selecciono un fichero para abrir con vim solo se abre el terminal sin abrir el fichero. en .xsession-errors ni respira Si le pongo terminator -x vim abre y cierra la terminal. Estoy práctimente convencido de que la opción de seleccionar terminator en aplicaciones preferidas no es viable. O sea usa abrir con... y coloca `terminator -x vim`. Gracias por la respuesta BasaBuru -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261120.11699.basab...@basatu.org
OT-FireFTP
Hola, buen dia. Alguien probo el complemento para firefox fireftp? Que opinion tienen al respecto? Es seguro y recomendable? Muchas gracias -- Saludos Juan Pablo Alesandri GNU/Linux Registered User:#333844 GnuPG Public Key ID: 8A2B7F96 --- signature.asc Description: Esto es una parte de mensaje firmado digitalmente
Re: OT-FireFTP
Hola Juan Pablo... El 26/03/11 09:31, Juan Pablo Alesandri escribió: Hola, buen dia. Alguien probo el complemento para firefox fireftp? Que opinion tienen al respecto? Es seguro y recomendable? Lo utilizo -con iceweasel- desde hace mucho tiempo para subir las páginas a mi servidor web. Yo lo veo recomendable, en cuanto a la seguridad no tengo idea pero hasta ahora nadie se ha metido con mi página ;-) Muchas gracias Por nada, .-. Walter / \ _ / \ __ http://swcomputacion.com/ (\/ / \ |_/OO)http://swsola.com.ar/ \--~ Usuario Linux 425808 // || || \\http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8def19.8060...@gmail.com
Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:42:13PM -0600, Robinson Guevara wrote: Asi que e aquí mi problema No se como hacer una USB Bootable con Debian 6. Gracias a que ya se cuenta con soporte para imágenes «isohybrid» en el instalador de Debian [1] ya es tan simple como: cat debian.iso /dev/sdX Saludos y buen día, [1] http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/Debian_USB_install_from_hybrid_iso/ -- Fernando C. Estrada GIVE: Support the helpless victims of computer error. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326135411.ga2...@camaleonina.octanux.com
Re: OT-FireFTP
El 26 de marzo de 2011 09:31, Juan Pablo Alesandri jpadeb...@gmail.comescribió: Hola, buen dia. Alguien probo el complemento para firefox fireftp? Que opinion tienen al respecto? Es seguro y recomendable? Muchas gracias -- Saludos Juan Pablo Alesandri GNU/Linux Registered User:#333844 GnuPG Public Key ID: 8A2B7F96 --- Si, lo probe. Es un cliente de FTP, que sirve para las tareas de un cliente de FTP normal. Es seguro? Tan seguro como cualquier otro cliente de FTP. (la inseguridad de un ftp, es inherente al servicio, no al cliente usado) Recomendable? Si no queres andar usando un cliente de FTP como filezilla, y si.. es recomendable porque tenes todo en uno. Si no te importa tener varias ventanas abiertas, es indiferente -- Diego http://about.me/diegors/bio
Re: [OT] Tomand prestado el logo de Debian
2011/3/26 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com: 2011/3/25 Alejandro ama...@gmail.com Bonito eh? hehe http://omsklug.ru/index.php?topic=2039 Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en omsklug.ru. ahora :) http://imgur.com/WfzKe -- Alejandro Matos http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/email/4.png -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktima93oedeg8hyxf3bhdmttypopfqfvizcvcj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin
El Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:18:52 +0100, BasaBuru escribió: On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 00:06:08 Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:39:25 +0100, BasaBuru escribió: ¿Y si creas un lanzador en el escritorio (vim.desktop) que ejecute sencillamente la orden terminator -e vim eliminando así cualquier interpretación errónea que pueda hacer del paso de parámetros adicional al tener que abrir el archivo? ¿Funciona o no hace nada? funciona Hum... No sé, es raro, esperaría ver algún error que lo haga pararse. Pon la salida de terminator -d a ver qué dice. mas abajo Okis (leyendo...) No, no veo nada raro, ningún error :-? Tengo mis dudas... más que nada por el mensaje de error que has puesto (terminator: error: Additional unexpected arguments found: ['/home/ basati/default.gpfl']). Si, yo también parece que kde le pasa el fichero a abrir como un argumento a terminator que no es capaz de entender como que tiene que abrir el fichero. Si konsole funciona y xterm funciona cuando las configuras como terminales predeterminadas de KDE y KDE pasa los mismos parámetros para todas ellas ¿por qué sólo falla con terminator? :-? Porque es un bug de terminator??? no se me ocurre nada mas. Después de todas las pruebas. (...) Acabo de instalar terminator en testing (yo uso gnome) y la verdad es que tampoco funciona... ni poniendo gnome-terminal, ni xterm ni terminator como terminal predeterminada del sistema. Si ejecuto terminator -d veo más o menos lo mismo que tú pero con un error al principio del archivo que quizá sólo sea cosmético o sencillamente porque no lo he configurado: test@debian:~$ terminator -d ConfigBase::load: Unable to open /home/test/.config/terminator/config ([Errno 2] No existe el fichero o el directorio: '/home/test/.config/ terminator/config') La única forma que parece funcionar es creando manualmente un lanzador de vim con este contenido: #!/bin/sh terminator -e /usr/bin/vim.tiny $1 Marcas el archivo como ejecutable y lo usas como plataforma de lanzamiento para abrir el archivo de texto (es decir, les dices que abra el txt con este comando /home/test/Escritorio/vim. Esto funciona en Gnome... bajo KDE ya no te puedo decir :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.03.26.15.48...@gmail.com
Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6
Mi estimado amigo Robinson Me parece excelente que le quieras instalar Debian a esa machine. Una cosa si te voy a advertir por experiencia y es que por lo general la gente con poco o nulo conocimiento de los SOs tiende a querer regresar a windows poco después de iniciada la aventura en linux. Por si es el caso y para que no pierdas tu sistema operativo instalado de fabrica con todo y controladores mi sugerencia es crear un medio de respaldo, esas machines todas (eso creo) traen una utileria para crear una USB con el sistema completito por si en la instalación eliminas la partición de salvamento del sistema. No vaya a ser la de malas y para que recuperes el sistema legal va a ser todo un espectáculo. Así que un saludo, mucha suerte y que la fuerza te acompañe en la instalación y configuración. 2011/3/26 Fernando C. Estrada fcestr...@fcestrada.com On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:42:13PM -0600, Robinson Guevara wrote: Asi que e aquí mi problema No se como hacer una USB Bootable con Debian 6. Gracias a que ya se cuenta con soporte para imágenes «isohybrid» en el instalador de Debian [1] ya es tan simple como: cat debian.iso /dev/sdX Saludos y buen día, [1] http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/Debian_USB_install_from_hybrid_iso/ -- Fernando C. Estrada GIVE: Support the helpless victims of computer error. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326135411.ga2...@camaleonina.octanux.com -- Atte: Mario Rivas Medrano Laboratorio de Origen de la Vida Facultad de Ciencias, UNAM Telefono: 56224823 Celular: 5523083095
Re: (OT) Ventanas metidas en la izquierda de la pantalla
El Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:35:28 +, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió: El 25/03/11 12:12, Camaleón escribió: ¿Qué entorno gráfico usas (gnome, kde...)? Deberían mantenerse automáticamente el tamaño y la posición de la ventana tras el último cierre... por curiosidad, ¿qué sucede si la maximizas y pulsas el botón de cerrar [x], la vuelve a abrir mal colocada y sin maximizar? :-? Gracias por contestar, Camaleón lo mande al privado. He realizado lo que indica Ivan, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , pero no hace nada, sigue todo igual. Camaleón, he realizado lo que me indicas, con la consola, pero al abrirse sigue igual queda a la izquierda, y no se abre maximizada sino pequeña. Está raro... ¿has probado a crear un nuevo usuario para ver si le pasa lo mismo? :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.03.26.16.20...@gmail.com
Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin
2011/3/26 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org: On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 08:23:23 Carlos Zuniga escribió: 2011/3/25 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org: Acabo de instalarlo y en el man indica que uses -x si quieres usar argumentos en tu comando en lugar de -e (si no los toma como argumentos del propio terminator). Primero mea culpa, no leer la docu. Pero estaba tan convencido de que era un problema de kde que no miraba otra cosa Ahora esto sigue sin resolver el problema. Si en aplicaciones preferidas selecciono terminator -x y selecciono un fichero para abrir con vim solo se abre el terminal sin abrir el fichero. en .xsession-errors ni respira Si le pongo terminator -x vim abre y cierra la terminal. Estoy práctimente convencido de que la opción de seleccionar terminator en aplicaciones preferidas no es viable. Je, bueno me funcionó en Gnome y pensé que te funcionaría. El terminator tiene en sus preferencias una opción para ver que hacer cuando se termina el comando que está utilizando (cerrar la ventana o iniciar un shell). Podrías probar eso. Sino en ultima instancia, creo que el lanzador que indica Camaleón sería la mejor opción. Saludos -- Linux Registered User # 386081 A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikpvmhoowbw4ofoahcyx5t8anewbkh7bxc5n...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Tomand prestado el logo de Debian
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Alejandro ama...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/26 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com: 2011/3/25 Alejandro ama...@gmail.com Bonito eh? hehe http://omsklug.ru/index.php?topic=2039 Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en omsklug.ru. ahora :) http://imgur.com/WfzKe Hay un hilo interesante en debian-legal del año pasado donde hablan del uso del logo por otra empresa [0]. Al parecer es muy fácil hacer el logo usando una de las brochas incluidas en Adobe Ilustrator [1]. Al final concluyeron que como el logo no es marca registrada de Debian (solo el nombre lo es) y ya que es fácil que la persona lo haya diseñado desde cero, no había falta. Saludos. [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2010/11/threads.html#00056 [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/pngQS9XWBEiB6.png -- Linux Registered User # 386081 A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTikY6RP6QxwxGtBrouEhS922ynJfwY3_MK1oP7=h...@mail.gmail.com
SOLVED Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin
On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 17:43:12 Carlos Zuniga escribió: El terminator tiene en sus preferencias una opción para ver que hacer cuando se termina el comando que está utilizando (cerrar la ventana o iniciar un shell). Podrías probar eso. No es eso, pero la pista cojonuda En profiles - command tiene una opción Run command as a login shell Y ya esta.. rula perfectamente. Muchas gracias a todos por vuestro tiempo y ayuda. Un abrazo BasaBuru -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103262139.34781.basab...@basatu.org
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Re: Apache + Rotatelogs
Acredito que seha isao mesmo Em 25/03/2011 17:51, Pietro Arancibia p...@email.com escreveu: O horario do servidor está corretamente configurado? parece que seu servidor esta usando o horario UTC, em vez do -3h... abracos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8d0014.4060...@email.com
MPD não inicia corretamente após boot
Bom dia, Estou utilizando o Debian Squeeze e, após mudar para arquitetura 64 bits, estou tendo problemas com o MPD: 80% das vezes que inicio o computador, os usuários não conseguem se conectar ao daemon. Quando isso ocorre, eu faço login como root e reinicio o mpd (/etc/init.d/mpd restart) e tudo funciona perfeitamente. O arquivo de configuração do serviço foi copiado da instalação antiga (32 bits), e parece não apresentar problemas. Ele pode ser baixado aqui*. O mais chato é que o problema é intermitente, fica difícil descobrir a causa. Alguém está passando/passou por algo semelhante e tem alguma sugestão? Obrigado. * http://pastebin.com/m9nPCCTt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e2436.4010...@brunomarques.com.br
Re: MPD não inicia corretamente após boot
Antes de voce reiniciar o MPD, use esse comando (quando der o erro): dmesg | grep MPD e veja se está havendo alguma falha, salve um log dessa informação e poste aqui... depois reinicie o MPD e use o dmesg | grep MPD novamente e veja a informação, poste aqui tb se for necessário Assim poderemos examinar se o processo de boot tem algo a ver com esse erro. Já de antemão queria saber se os usuário acessam isso em rede, porque tb pode ser uma falha ou lentidão no DHCP. Até + Em 26 de março de 2011 13:36, Bruno Schmidt Marques cont...@brunomarques.com.br escreveu: Bom dia, Estou utilizando o Debian Squeeze e, após mudar para arquitetura 64 bits, estou tendo problemas com o MPD: 80% das vezes que inicio o computador, os usuários não conseguem se conectar ao daemon. Quando isso ocorre, eu faço login como root e reinicio o mpd (/etc/init.d/mpd restart) e tudo funciona perfeitamente. O arquivo de configuração do serviço foi copiado da instalação antiga (32 bits), e parece não apresentar problemas. Ele pode ser baixado aqui*. O mais chato é que o problema é intermitente, fica difícil descobrir a causa. Alguém está passando/passou por algo semelhante e tem alguma sugestão? Obrigado. * http://pastebin.com/m9nPCCTt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e2436.4010...@brunomarques.com.br
Re: MPD não inicia corretamente após boot
Rodolfo, os usuários acessam isso localmente. Vou tentar reproduzir o erro e seguirei os passos por você descritos. Obrigado; On 03/26/2011 02:59 PM, Rodolfo wrote: Antes de voce reiniciar o MPD, use esse comando (quando der o erro): dmesg | grep MPD e veja se está havendo alguma falha, salve um log dessa informação e poste aqui... depois reinicie o MPD e use o dmesg | grep MPD novamente e veja a informação, poste aqui tb se for necessário Assim poderemos examinar se o processo de boot tem algo a ver com esse erro. Já de antemão queria saber se os usuário acessam isso em rede, porque tb pode ser uma falha ou lentidão no DHCP. Até + Em 26 de março de 2011 13:36, Bruno Schmidt Marques cont...@brunomarques.com.br mailto:cont...@brunomarques.com.br escreveu: Bom dia, Estou utilizando o Debian Squeeze e, após mudar para arquitetura 64 bits, estou tendo problemas com o MPD: 80% das vezes que inicio o computador, os usuários não conseguem se conectar ao daemon. Quando isso ocorre, eu faço login como root e reinicio o mpd (/etc/init.d/mpd restart) e tudo funciona perfeitamente. O arquivo de configuração do serviço foi copiado da instalação antiga (32 bits), e parece não apresentar problemas. Ele pode ser baixado aqui*. O mais chato é que o problema é intermitente, fica difícil descobrir a causa. Alguém está passando/passou por algo semelhante e tem alguma sugestão? Obrigado. * http://pastebin.com/m9nPCCTt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e2436.4010...@brunomarques.com.br
Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Saudações a todos. Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64. Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do webmin. Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no momento que aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e mouse usb, os mesmo funcionam normalmente. Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser? ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema continua. Obrigado. -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e3f38.8090...@yahoo.com.br
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Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Camada de hardware? Cabos? Portas? BIOS? Atualização muito difícil :/ que teclado é ? so no X tem esse problema ou em modo texto também ocorre isto? -- att Marcos Carraro Linux user #511627 Em 26 de março de 2011 16:32, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu: Saudações a todos. Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64. Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do webmin. Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no momento que aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e mouse usb, os mesmo funcionam normalmente. Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser? ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema continua. Obrigado. -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e3f38.8090...@yahoo.com.br
Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Marcos. O teclado funciona perfeitamente até o momento que entra o modo gráfico do login. Uso ele para acessar o setup da máquina, para escolher a opção do Grub, mas quando aparece o login nem o teclado nem o mouse funcionam mais. O teclado não responde nem o NumLock. O teclado é um bem simples da marca satellite. Fou usando ele que eu instalei o SO nesse servidor, já testei ele em outra máquina e está funcionando perfeitamente. Já revisei todas as configurações do setup da bio. Faço a administração do servidor pelo programa webmin (que aliás, é "uma mão na roda") e desativei alguns programas na inicialização, mas depois que ocorreu o problema eu já reativei todos os serviços que aparecem no menu e o problema continua. Ahhh, uso o webmin na própria máquina e não via rede, só para não restarem dúvidas!!! Quando ocorre a parelização eu plugo um teclado e um mouse usb e eles funcionam normalmente. Ainda não consegui achar onde se configura o dispositivo do mouse no gdm3 (que aliás, achei um monte de reclamações na net). Em 26-03-2011 20:52, Marcos Carraro escreveu: Camada de hardware? Cabos? Portas? BIOS? Atualização muito difícil :/ que teclado é ? so no X tem esse problema ou em modo texto também ocorre isto? -- att Marcos Carraro Linux user #511627 Em 26 de março de 2011 16:32, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Saudações a todos. Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64. Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do webmin. Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no momento que aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e mouse usb, os mesmo funcionam normalmente. Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser? ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema continua. Obrigado. -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e3f38.8090...@yahoo.com.br -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e7ffb.7090...@yahoo.com.br
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Re: ATI/AMD graphics cards
On Vi, 25 mar 11, 17:20:58, Andrew Wood wrote: On 20 Mar 2011, at 14:09, Liam O'Toole wrote: If you grep /var/log/syslog for 'firmware' you should see what firmware is requested and what is missing, if any. Absolutely nothing. Do you mean no output or no problems? You should see at least the messages stating the firmware has been loaded. Hint pass -i to grep ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What happened to debian - does stable keep having any meaning?
On Vi, 25 mar 11, 09:39:13, Tom H wrote: This is not right, because you can choose LILO. Not in normal install mode. It's always possible during a normal installation to switch to expert mode. Just use the Back button ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What happened to debian - does stable keep having any meaning?
On Vi, 25 mar 11, 14:52:53, Geronimo wrote: Hello, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Geronimo geronimo...@arcor.de wrote: LOL - beside that, I don't have an mta configured to access internet and don't like to do so. So I'll communicate using email (kmail) or iceweasel - no more. You don't need an mta. I already filed that bugreport using email only. JFYI and for the archives: when you run 'reportbug --configure' don't select an MTA. Reportbug will submit the bug directly then. The template from http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting is missing the entry Severity, so my bugreport is not as desired. May be a list admin can change that? Anyone can do it, just send an e-mail to cont...@bugs.debian.org with this content (indented for readability): severity bugnumber wishlist thanks Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SOLVED] mpd blocks all other sound output EBUSY
On Ma, 22 mar 11, 17:47:27, Brian Ryans wrote: I was about to write a long email, complete with some logs and config files, and postpone it to remind me to STFW for more info on an mpd issue I was having. While bundling everything up, I decided to try, on a lark, commenting out someting marked 'optional' in mpd.conf, under the assumption that using said option would force it straight to hardware as opposed to going through dmix. This was caused, in my case, by blindly uncommenting the device entry in the audio_output block of mpd.conf; it'd look something like this: audio_output { # snip device hw:0,0 # optional # snip } As far as I understand, dmix operates at 48kHz only (due to some old buggy chipsets?). Since most audio content is 44,1 kHz, mpd will now resample everything to 48kHz using libsamplerate, which should give better quality than the alsa resampler. This, however will cost you some CPU cycles. Depending on your hardware it may matter or not... Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt-get trying to remove manually installed packages
On Jo, 24 mar 11, 12:52:03, James Robertson wrote: I am running Sid. while doing a dist-upgrade apt-get wants to remove a number of packages that are manually installed. One example is rxvt-unicode which I manually installed. I have run apt-get unmarkauto rxvt-unicode to ensure it's set to manual but it keeps wanting to remove it during dist-upgrade. How can I prevent apt from removing my manually installed packages? Please post the full output of 'apt-get dist-upgrade' here, otherwise we can only guess. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: boot loader
On Jo, 24 mar 11, 12:30:39, shawn wilson wrote: not sure of the topicality of this here but... i've got a computer with ntldr messing up. since i don't have a windows xp disk, i have no way of fixing this (besides torrent). so, i was hoping to find some sort of quick install that just shoved grup on the system and made a minimal partition for /boot (and whatever else is required for grub). You can fix it with ms-sys[1] from System Rescue CD[2] [1] http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://www.sysresccd.org/ Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What happened to debian - does stable keep having any meaning?
Hello, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 25 mar 11, 14:52:53, Geronimo wrote: Tom H wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Geronimo geronimo...@arcor.de wrote: LOL - beside that, I don't have an mta configured to access internet and don't like to do so. So I'll communicate using email (kmail) or iceweasel - no more. You don't need an mta. I already filed that bugreport using email only. JFYI and for the archives: when you run 'reportbug --configure' don't select an MTA. Reportbug will submit the bug directly then. Hm - I have to confess, that my objection is not related to MTA, but to hidden/obscure transmission. Yes, I am paranoid ;) email interface is fine for me and I'll learn to use the right format. Thanks for your assistance! The template from http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting is missing the entry Severity, so my bugreport is not as desired. May be a list admin can change that? Anyone can do it, just send an e-mail to cont...@bugs.debian.org with this content (indented for readability): severity bugnumber wishlist thanks Great. Thanks for the pointer. This way I noticed, that my bugreport has already been moved to different package. You're so fast :) kind regards Gero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261029.53906.geronimo...@arcor.de
recover partition table
Hello, recently I wiped out all but one partition tables by stupidness and hasty reading ... Thanks to testdisk, most of the damage is already fixed. There are 2 drives, that testdisk could not find the partion informations for. Accidently I discovered /var/log/installer/partman, which looks like being from the time before my dumb Chuck-Norris-Roundhouse-Kick ;) That logfile looks like having reasonable partition informations of all drives. Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ... kind regards Gero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261137.44240.geronimo...@arcor.de
Debugger in Monodevelop 2.2.1 (squeeze)
hi, I am using Monodevelop 2.2.1 with mono 2.6.7 on Debian lenny (but using squeeze packages via lenny-backports). I can set breakpoints and the active configuration is Debug, but when I run it via the Debug (F5) Button, it doesn't halt on breakpoints. What am I missing? Thanks! -- Felix Natter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871v1urvxi@smail.inf.fh-brs.de
Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?
On 26/03/11 13:13, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/25/2011 06:19 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 26/03/11 08:40, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/24/2011 08:41 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 25/03/11 03:10, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/24/2011 10:21 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 24/03/11 14:52, Ron Johnson wrote: Because of the radical changes in v4.0, I *strongly* urge that you install FF 4.0 to /usr/local/bin or ~/bin, since you or your wife might (as I do) dislike the way that v4 works. I installed Firefox4 to ~/.firefox and Iceweasel4 to ~/.iceweasel4 correction: I installed Firefox4 *profiles* to ~/.firefox and Iceweasel4 to ~/.iceweasel4 (iceweasel3.x lives in ~/.mozilla) How did you install IW4 into your $HOME? ac_add_options --with-user-appdir puts profile where ever you want it, you need to make a couple of other changes to stop overwriting system default browser and messing up menu entries. I don't think that dpkg has the ability to redirect output. It does, and it's probably a better (proper) way of doing things eg. chroot followed by dpkg --instdir (from memory). Alternatively extract, hack, and repackage the .deb. or just build statically linked Properly applied dpkg --divert (?) will probably keep things from breaking snipped Most probably. A similar addon (Old Location Bar) makes FF3.x tolerable. Do you mean it puts location bar above tabs? My main motivation for moving to 4 was freedom from ffflash, and the ability to build lighter netbooks. Eh? YouTube isn't the be-all and end-all of video... I don't think all YouTube videos are HTML5 yet, but it's the most common reason users cite for needing ffflash. And ffflash is a pain to keep updated. I can force apt-get on them, and easy as Iceweasel makes things - I can't force (l)users to update extensions/plugins. Yeah Gnash works, kind of... kudos to the guy's work too (another Aussie!), but I still dislike ffflash - I can't think of any justification for it. Disclaimer: I use YouTube, saves bandwidth on sites, makes for another backlink - but mostly it keeps clients happy (bless their pointy little heads) snipped The Workplace Shell was pretty amazing. I loved Warp 3 on my 486DX33. It's still good. I had some clients who own a string of service stations - they still run OS/2 - for POS, training, and inventory. It just works, and they sure are getting their money's worth for hardware and software (though Pegasus routed through NZ is just strange). Maybe one day IBM will open-source it (OS/2) Cheers -- A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8dd9ac.6000...@gmail.com
Re: tomboy, and mono dependencies in gnome?
Hi, I did not check exact situation ... On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:35:15PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: Why is tomboy in the default basic desktop when installed from the netinstall CD? I assume so since gnome Depends on tomboy (= 1.2) | gnote. See it by: $ apt-cache show gnome|grep tomboy And, more to the point, when I run synaptic and check on uninstalling libmono-cor or whatever, it threatens to uninstall gnome. (Not really a big deal, I'm comfortable using XFCE.) Time to learn aptitude :-) Select all packages of gnome non-automatically while chosing gnote and drop tomboy. I do not know why gnote was the first choice ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326124301.ga20...@debian.org
Re: aptitude stuck resolving dependencies...
Hi, On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:04:47AM -0700, Joe Riel wrote: This morning I ran $ sudo aptitude update $ aptitude --simulate safe-upgrade Resolving dependencies... open: 16431; closed: 11272; defer: 105; conflict: 54 At this point it kept churning; the number of open dependencies kept increasing. Because of this I haven't run a real upgrade. How do I determine what is happening and whether a real upgrade would run normally? It should not ... but things happen. That is why we recommend using apt-get for such upgrade situation. This was discussed and decioded for release note. Please read Release note and follow. We have reason to recommend apt-get in such situation unfortunately. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-full See note under this section too. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326124858.gb20...@debian.org
Re: An interesting experiment
Hi, On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 03:25:02PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: I just found a box in my basement that I haven't touched in many years. I checked sources.list, and it was built when woody was stable and sarge was testing. The box was running sid. So I thought it would be an interesting experiment to see what is involved to get it to a modern sid, or if it is even possible. The box is a PII/667. 192mb ram, 6gb drive. So far, I have run into the following problems: 1. I had to take debian non-free out of the sources.list (I had forgotten all about that). 2. It is having a problem installing ncurses-base. (package uses Breaks, no supported in this dpkg) You know upgrade skipping release is not supported. You are hitting it :-) I know it will probably break at some point, but I doubt I will ever have need to reuse this box, and the data is way stale after so many years...I thought it would be an interesting diversion. If you are just doing this for fun, cut down system with dpkg -P ... etc to minimum except apt. Then hope system upgrades OK. Alternatively, you may install chroot and debootstrap to install new system. That takes a bit of skill to do. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326130700.gc20...@debian.org
Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:11 -0400 (EDT), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile w/o errors. They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2 --initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid. I have looked at the initrd files with cpio and I see nothing wrong: the 'init' file is there as it should be, etc. But what to look for? I use legacy-grub and that just sits there with 'boot' as the last command, forever. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to try next? I have used make-kpkg many times, but not in the last 5 months, and this has never happened to me. The first thing I would try is to configure a custom kernel exactly like a stock Debian kernel. Assuming a stock Debian kernel boots successfully, and assuming that you are using the Debian kernel source which corresponds to the stock Debian kernel, that will tell you if there's something wrong with your kernel configuration or if there's something wrong with the logistics of your compilation and installation. If I were to hazzard a guess, I would guess that you don't have a feature enabled that your hardware needs. But that's just a guess. The following resource may be helpful to you: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/965276153.1732196.1301146172005.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: recover partition table
Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo: Hello, recently I wiped out all but one partition tables by stupidness and hasty reading ... Thanks to testdisk, most of the damage is already fixed. There are 2 drives, that testdisk could not find the partion informations for. Accidently I discovered /var/log/installer/partman, which looks like being from the time before my dumb Chuck-Norris-Roundhouse-Kick ;) That logfile looks like having reasonable partition informations of all drives. Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ... kind regards Gero Hi Gero, maybe you can fix it, when you use fdisk, delete all partitions and create exactly the same partitions withe the exactly size as before. But do NOT formate!!! This worked for me, when I accidently loosing my partitions by using a mirror tool from windows. I lost my ext3 partitions that day. Maybe another option, to rescue data might be using the tool dd,but I am not experienced with it. Testdisk might also be able to rescue the partitions. Another good tools are on SuperRescueCD or UltimatebootCD for Windows. Google for it. Good luck Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261443.15385.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:40:29 -0400 (EDT), Jackie Wang wrote: My laptop is HP 6515b, AMD Turion 64x2 CPU, 2G memory with dual system, Debian and windows XP. First time I installed Debian Lenny 5.0.4 amd64 on my laptop, DE is Gnome. Then upgrade to 5.0.6, then 6.0. Until 6.0 it works very well. But recently after i updated to 6.0.1 the system becomes very slow. I notice the process Xorg consume many CPU usage. even i open a terminal window, it pop up very slow.today i fresh installed my laptop,using netinst method (debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso).but after installed the system still very slow, Xorg still consume many CPU. but windows XP runs normal, so i think 6.0.1 has some problem. does anybody encountered this situation? BTW,can i just install debian 6.0 not 6.0.1? i have 5.0.4 DVD and 6.0.1 netinst CD. Have you checked for missing firmware? Issue dmesg|less and search for the character string firmware. For example g /firmware n The g takes you to the top, /firmware searches for the string firmware, and n repeats the last search. Use n as often as necessary. Look for evidence that the kernel tried to load firmware but was unsuccessful. Use q to exit, of course. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1471178425.1732538.1301147313367.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?
On Fri 25 Mar 2011 at 19:10:47 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: 'Edit, Preferences, General' doesn't offer you a startup option Show my windows and tabs from last time? Mine does. It does and I've now set it to that. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326133613.GJ7935@desktop
Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?
On Sat 26 Mar 2011 at 10:34:36 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: Both Iceweasel4 and Firefox4, on both Lenny and Squeeze do for me. I run KDE (3x and 4x respectively). It was my misunderstanding of the Startup options which perplexed me a little. Everything is sorted now. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326134138.GK7935@desktop
Re: recover partition table
Hello, thank your for your assistance. Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo: Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ... maybe you can fix it, when you use fdisk, Not sure about fdisk. Does fdisk write partition table entry only? ... or does it have side effects on existing data - like wiping out superblock of existing fs, so you have to format the partition? I don't want to increase the damage, therefore I ask before doing anything. kind regards Gero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261459.20598.geronimo...@arcor.de
Re: recover partition table
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote: recently I wiped out all but one partition tables by stupidness and hasty reading ... Thanks to testdisk, most of the damage is already fixed. There are 2 drives, that testdisk could not find the partion informations for. Accidently I discovered /var/log/installer/partman, which looks like being from the time before my dumb Chuck-Norris-Roundhouse-Kick ;) That logfile looks like having reasonable partition informations of all drives. Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ... I looked at my /var/log/installer/partman file, and it does indeed look as though the exact sector information for the partitions is there. I would suggest using the parted command from the package of the same name. It can allocate partitions and report on them at the sector level. For example, parted /dev/sda unit s print free parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart ... -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2015154596.1732737.1301148012639.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: recover partition table
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:59:20 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote: Not sure about fdisk. Does fdisk write partition table entry only? ... or does it have side effects on existing data - like wiping out superblock of existing fs, so you have to format the partition? I don't want to increase the damage, therefore I ask before doing anything. That's an excellent point, Geronimo. Sometimes partitioning programs do stuff like that. I know the old FDISK command from MS-DOS used to write out a few blocks of binary zeros to each partition it allocated to avoid left-over data from causing problems. In the case of Linux fdisk, parted, etc. I don't know the answer to that question. One thing you can try is to allocate a small partition in an area that you know was free space, format it, put some data in it, delete the partition, then reallocate it exactly where it was before, and see if you can still read the data. Then delete the partition again. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/350791612.1732927.1301148600853.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
Dne, 26. 03. 2011 14:24:42 je Jackie napisal(a): On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Dne, 25. 03. 2011 03:40:29 je Jackie Wang napisal(a): Hi all, My laptop is HP 6515b, AMD Turion 64x2 CPU, 2G memory with dual system, Debian and windows XP. First time I installed Debian Lenny 5.0.4 amd64 on my laptop, DE is Gnome. Then upgrade to 5.0.6, then 6.0. Until 6.0 it works very well. But recently after i updated to 6.0.1 the system becomes very slow. I notice the process Xorg consume many CPU usage. even i open a terminal window, it pop up very slow.today i fresh installed my laptop,using netinst method (debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso).but after installed the system still very slow, Xorg still consume many CPU. but windows XP runs normal, so i think 6.0.1 has some problem. does anybody encountered this situation? What's your video card? ATI, I presume? Carefully go through your Xorg.0.log and see whether there are any (EE) messages. They the video card is intergrated ATI Radeon X1250, and X0rg.0.log see 2 (EE): grep '^(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (EE) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware. (EE) PreInit failed for input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad That's hardly suspect: those two lines appear in my Xorg.0.log too. I have the 6715b, with ATI Radeon X1200, and while fglrx couldn't be made to work at all, the radeon driver works a breeze. Hmm... If I were you, I wouldn't bother troubleshoting the issue at all; I'd check if the slowdowns appear in another user account too (just to rule out potential user misconfigutration), and then install Squeeze on a spare partition from scratch, just to rule out upgrade glitches. It may well be that the issue won't appear in a fresh installation. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1301149373.10779.0@compax
Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot
tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: 25/03/2011 21:19, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile w/o errors. They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2 --initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid. I have looked at the initrd files with cpio and I see nothing wrong: the 'init' file is there as it should be, etc. But what to look for? I use legacy-grub and that just sits there with 'boot' as the last command, forever. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to try next? I have used make-kpkg many times, but not in the last 5 months, and this has never happened to me. Hugo Hi, I don't think there is a general problem in kernel-package (12.036+nmu1 here), I compiled three kernels (2.6.37* and 2.6.38*) this week and one more is backing right now without issue. Are the required hooks scripts for your setup in place and valid (see /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/) ? Any module missing from /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ? I did not change the scripts in /etc/kernel. Did you? It has postinst.d postrm.d preinst.d prerm.d for directories. The latter 2 are empty and the former 2 have initramfs-tools pm-utils zz-update-grub as scripts and initramfs-tools zz-update-grub as scripts. I have not added any module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. Maybe you could try with make deb-pkg target and see if it boots this way. Never used that before. But I ran make deb-pkg in the kernel tree and that created a .deb. Installed that and booted that kernel and it behaved exactly the same way: last grub command is 'boot' and it just sits there. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/imkt1d$r3g$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?
Ron Johnson wrote: I *found* it, but it had moved for no reason. Like a wife that rearranges the furniture for no reason except I was bored. Gotta agree with that one! The same problems arose with MS Office updates, the earlier versions were easy to work with, the newer updated versions are completely different -- change for change sake? Don't fix what is NOT broken. :( Cheers -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8dfa2e.2090...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
I've Installed from scratch using 6.0.1 netinst CD, but slowdown too. On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Dne, 26. 03. 2011 14:24:42 je Jackie napisal(a): On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Dne, 25. 03. 2011 03:40:29 je Jackie Wang napisal(a): Hi all, My laptop is HP 6515b, AMD Turion 64x2 CPU, 2G memory with dual system, Debian and windows XP. First time I installed Debian Lenny 5.0.4 amd64 on my laptop, DE is Gnome. Then upgrade to 5.0.6, then 6.0. Until 6.0 it works very well. But recently after i updated to 6.0.1 the system becomes very slow. I notice the process Xorg consume many CPU usage. even i open a terminal window, it pop up very slow.today i fresh installed my laptop,using netinst method (debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso).but after installed the system still very slow, Xorg still consume many CPU. but windows XP runs normal, so i think 6.0.1 has some problem. does anybody encountered this situation? What's your video card? ATI, I presume? Carefully go through your Xorg.0.log and see whether there are any (EE) messages. They the video card is intergrated ATI Radeon X1250, and X0rg.0.log see 2 (EE): grep '^(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (EE) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware. (EE) PreInit failed for input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad That's hardly suspect: those two lines appear in my Xorg.0.log too. I have the 6715b, with ATI Radeon X1200, and while fglrx couldn't be made to work at all, the radeon driver works a breeze. Hmm... If I were you, I wouldn't bother troubleshoting the issue at all; I'd check if the slowdowns appear in another user account too (just to rule out potential user misconfigutration), and then install Squeeze on a spare partition from scratch, just to rule out upgrade glitches. It may well be that the issue won't appear in a fresh installation. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.orgwith a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1301149373.10779.0@compax
Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot
Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:11 -0400 (EDT), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile w/o errors. They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2 --initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid. I have looked at the initrd files with cpio and I see nothing wrong: the 'init' file is there as it should be, etc. But what to look for? I use legacy-grub and that just sits there with 'boot' as the last command, forever. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to try next? I have used make-kpkg many times, but not in the last 5 months, and this has never happened to me. The first thing I would try is to configure a custom kernel exactly like a stock Debian kernel. Assuming a stock Debian kernel boots successfully, and assuming that you are using the Debian kernel source which corresponds to the stock Debian kernel, that will tell you if there's something wrong with your kernel configuration or if there's something wrong with the logistics of your compilation and installation. That's the first thing I did: stock Debian kernel. And it does not boot. If I were to hazzard a guess, I would guess that you don't have a feature enabled that your hardware needs. But that's just a guess. But the Debian kernel image boots, so the compiled stock kernel ought to also. My guess is that I have to change the make-kpkg scripts somehow. Since the last time I ran make-kpkg successfully I have changed motherboards. The following resource may be helpful to you: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/imku3e$16s$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?
On 26/03/11 14:37, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: I *found* it, but it had moved for no reason. Like a wife that rearranges the furniture for no reason except I was bored. Gotta agree with that one! The same problems arose with MS Office updates, the earlier versions were easy to work with, the newer updated versions are completely different -- change for change sake? Don't fix what is NOT broken. :( For some values of broken. I have no problem with the UI changing if the end result is better. My definition of *better*, of course. The new tab button is IMHO an improvement. Yes, I had to spend some time fiddling around with the UI options to make it look like I wanted, (the home button; the reload button) but there it is. Personally I rather like FF4. It is without any doubt faster, which alleviates one major complaint from chrome users against FF. That, in itself, justifies it's existence. But, hey, YMMV ... -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8dfe2c.9010...@vanderhoff.org
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:25:08 -0400 (EDT), Jackie Wang wrote: See below: Qin:~# dmesg|grep -i firmware [9.268193] platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: requesting radeon/RS690_cp.bin [9.522472] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID:FW13 ] [ 22.020133] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode13.fw [ 22.033362] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43-open/ucode13.fw [ 22.048527] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode13.fw not found [ 22.055643] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode13.fw not found [ 22.063020] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website. [ 22.824121] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode13.fw [ 22.834487] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43-open/ucode13.fw [ 22.846726] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode13.fw not found [ 22.853638] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode13.fw not found [ 22.860374] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website. but RS690_cp.bin i've already installed : ... b43 is wireless adapter. (1) Please reply to the list, not to me (2) Please do not top-post Well, it's true that the missing firmware is not for your video hardware. But it could still be the cause of a process consuming excessive CPU cycles. Unfortunately, there does not appear to be a Debian package that contains this firmware. I would follow the instructions in the error messages and obtain the firmware if I were you. It couldn't hurt, and it might help. This is one of the major differences between Lenny and Squeeze: separately-loaded firmware. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1254969647.1733905.1301152614285.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: recover partition table
Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo: Hello, thank your for your assistance. Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo: Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ... maybe you can fix it, when you use fdisk, Not sure about fdisk. Does fdisk write partition table entry only? ... or does it have side effects on existing data - like wiping out superblock of existing fs, so you have to format the partition? I don't want to increase the damage, therefore I ask before doing anything. kind regards Gero I do not know. I suppose, it is just writining a new partition table without changing data and formation. So do NOT formate under any circumstances. As I wrote, I got success without loosing any data by jusdt rewriting a new partition table. If this is working in your case, I cannot grant. But maybe other people got some better ideas. Have fun! Greetz Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261625.39372.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
Dne, 26. 03. 2011 15:45:49 je Jackie napisal(a): I've Installed from scratch using 6.0.1 netinst CD, but slowdown too. That strikes me as odd indeed. My machine (6715b) should be virtually identical to yours, and it supports my fully updated Squeeze without a glitch (stock GNOME install from the stock AMD64 Debian 6.0.0. DVD), regularly updated. Thus far, the only problem I had was from a failed fglrx installation that left a rogue fglrx-driver.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, blacklisting the radeon and preventing it from loading. Since I removed the file, everything works a breeze again. That was purely a PEBKAC syndrome though, no fault of Debian's. You do have radeon-kms.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, and it has a line options radeon modeset=1 right? And you do have no Xorg.conf whatsoever in /etc/X11, right? The only difference I can spot is that: 1) you have a *slightly* different video card, and that 2) you installed from a netinst CD (a 386 perhaps?) as opposed to a full AMD64 DVD. 3) potentially a different selection of packages (another desktop environment? no laptop task installed?) -- Good luck, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1301154268.10779.1@compax
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
Dne, 26. 03. 2011 15:22:53 je Klistvud napisal(a): Oh yes: and you definitely *need* to install linux-firmware-nonfree! (At least I think that's what the package called) It's where your radeon 690 firmware is. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1301154422.10779.2@compax
New debian-installation - question
Hi list, just some simple questions: I am going to create a small installations cd from an already installed system (with my own settings). As I want it small and secure, I do not want any logfiles on this cd. I am using bootcdwrite. So my questions: 1.Can I use an empty /var/log/ or is it necessary, that some logfiles already exist? 2. Same question to /var/run, /var/cache and /var/spool/: Can they be empty at first boot? 3. Last question (maybe stupid): Can /var be empty at all or are there any directories, which MUST exist at very first boot? I am looking forward to your answers. Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261704.31168.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: recover partition table
Hello, thank you all for your attention and assistance. Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote: That logfile looks like having reasonable partition informations of all drives. Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ... I looked at my /var/log/installer/partman file, and it does indeed look as though the exact sector information for the partitions is there. I'm a bit confused. I tried to read partition info from hex-dump of first block and compare that with the values from /var/log/installer/partman ... According to partition info from wiki the biggest number of chs is 0x3FF, which is 1023 decimal - and partman output contains entries like: (91201,0,0) (91201,80,62) So is there another way to interpret entries from partition table? kind regards Gero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261736.08186.geronimo...@arcor.de
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
The only way to make squeeze work happy, was set radeon modeset=0 on /etc/modprobe.d, thanks to Camleon. Regards. Pablo Dne, 26. 03. 2011 15:45:49 je Jackie napisal(a): I've Installed from scratch using 6.0.1 netinst CD, but slowdown too. That strikes me as odd indeed. My machine (6715b) should be virtually identical to yours, and it supports my fully updated Squeeze without a glitch (stock GNOME install from the stock AMD64 Debian 6.0.0. DVD), regularly updated. Thus far, the only problem I had was from a failed fglrx installation that left a rogue fglrx-driver.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, blacklisting the radeon and preventing it from loading. Since I removed the file, everything works a breeze again. That was purely a PEBKAC syndrome though, no fault of Debian's. You do have radeon-kms.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, and it has a line options radeon modeset=1 right? And you do have no Xorg.conf whatsoever in /etc/X11, right? The only difference I can spot is that: 1) you have a *slightly* different video card, and that 2) you installed from a netinst CD (a 386 perhaps?) as opposed to a full AMD64 DVD. 3) potentially a different selection of packages (another desktop environment? no laptop task installed?) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e1f72.8020...@adinet.com.uy
Re: recover partition table
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:36:08 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote: I'm a bit confused. I tried to read partition info from hex-dump of first block and compare that with the values from /var/log/installer/partman ... According to partition info from wiki the biggest number of chs is 0x3FF, which is 1023 decimal - and partman output contains entries like: (91201,0,0) (91201,80,62) So is there another way to interpret entries from partition table? The master boot record is the first sector of the disk (512 bytes). Its LBA value is 0 and its CHS value is 0:0:1 (cylinder 0, head 0, record 1). The partition table is contained within the master boot record. Assuming that your disk is partitioned using the standard MS-DOS disk partitioning scheme, the partition table is at offset 0x1be (decimal 446). The total size of the partition table is 64 bytes. It consists of four 16-byte entries. Each entry describes a primary partition or an extended partition. There can be a maximum of one (minimum of zero) extended partitions. Logical partitions, if any, are described in the extended partition table in the first sector of the extended partition. See, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record for more details. Each partition table entry contains the starting sector of the partition in both CHS format and LBA format. It also contains the total number of sectors in the partition and the CHS address of the last sector in the partition. LBA values and CHS values can be converted back and forth to each other as long as (1) the disk geometry is known, and (2) the partition is completely contained within the portion of the disk which is addressable in CHS format. In the best case scenario, CHS values can address only the first 8.4G of the disk. The LBA values can address up to 2T (2 terabytes). Unfortunately, not all disk partitioning programs agree on the disk geometry; so what to use for LBA values depends on which program was used to partition the disk. I address this topic to some extent in my LILO web page http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm That's why I recommend that you concentrate on the sector numbers, which are essentially the same as LBA values. The sector information is further down in the file than the CHS information. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2008653358.1735863.1301160403861.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
oh, that is on a compaq 6820s, with a mobility radeon 1350. The only way to make squeeze work happy, was set radeon modeset=0 on /etc/modprobe.d, thanks to Camleon. Regards. Pablo Dne, 26. 03. 2011 15:45:49 je Jackie napisal(a): I've Installed from scratch using 6.0.1 netinst CD, but slowdown too. That strikes me as odd indeed. My machine (6715b) should be virtually identical to yours, and it supports my fully updated Squeeze without a glitch (stock GNOME install from the stock AMD64 Debian 6.0.0. DVD), regularly updated. Thus far, the only problem I had was from a failed fglrx installation that left a rogue fglrx-driver.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, blacklisting the radeon and preventing it from loading. Since I removed the file, everything works a breeze again. That was purely a PEBKAC syndrome though, no fault of Debian's. You do have radeon-kms.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, and it has a line options radeon modeset=1 right? And you do have no Xorg.conf whatsoever in /etc/X11, right? The only difference I can spot is that: 1) you have a *slightly* different video card, and that 2) you installed from a netinst CD (a 386 perhaps?) as opposed to a full AMD64 DVD. 3) potentially a different selection of packages (another desktop environment? no laptop task installed?) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e2387.7010...@adinet.com.uy
Re: recover partition table
Hello, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:36:08 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote: I'm a bit confused. I tried to read partition info from hex-dump of first block and compare that with the values from /var/log/installer/partman ... According to partition info from wiki the biggest number of chs is 0x3FF, which is 1023 decimal - and partman output contains entries like: (91201,0,0) (91201,80,62) So is there another way to interpret entries from partition table? The master boot record is the first sector of the disk (512 bytes). ... is further down in the file than the CHS information. I don't want to offend you, but all that you wrote I already found from google and friends. What I did not find is some info about partman logging. Searching debian MLs for partman has millions of hits, so its the same like no hits - can't read all that. As partman is internal to d-i, where can I find some info about the numbers shown around partition informations? You wrote, that disc addressing could be converted, if size is smaller than 8 Gig - none of my partitions fits this condition, so how can I calculate a sector from informations of partman log? kind regards Gero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103261842.15804.geronimo...@arcor.de
Re: recover partition table
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011, Geronimo wrote: Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ... This may not be what you are looking for, but if your aim is to get the partition table back, did you try this utility 'gpart', which guesses the partition table using the device name. It helped me sometime back. Hope it does right in your case :) Regards, Vivek. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.00.1103262332480.2...@xnqqnccn.tnynkl.pbz
Re: boot loader
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Jo, 24 mar 11, 12:30:39, shawn wilson wrote: not sure of the topicality of this here but... i've got a computer with ntldr messing up. since i don't have a windows xp disk, i have no way of fixing this (besides torrent). so, i was hoping to find some sort of quick install that just shoved grup on the system and made a minimal partition for /boot (and whatever else is required for grub). You can fix it with ms-sys[1] from System Rescue CD[2] [1] http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/ i'll have to try this. the sourceforge page says that it works on fat32. however, freshmeat has a changelog that seems to indicate it works on vista/7 which (i hope) also means it works with xp (or any other ntfs based system). [2] http://www.sysresccd.org/ heh, still haven't gone to the store to get media (which is why i haven't tried anything else yet). i'm sorta hoping that #1 will make it so that i don't have to go to the store :) i have a kubuntu boot cd, so either an apt-get for this or get headers and libraries and compile and run. i'm just hoping that there's enough ram on this thing to handle this -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimBEfM9Qm3i4O=nHMPJkWQoye=Z8kQ=-au2g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
you do realize, if you don't at least cc the list, no one else sees this? On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Jackie jackie2004.w...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, sorry for reply so later. this weekend i reinstalled again, from 5.0.4 to 5.0.8 and final 6.0.1. when upgrade to 6.0.1, it becomes slow, i noticed when setting linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64, it said, This system is currently running Linux 2.6.26-2-amd64 and you are installing Linux 2.6.32-5-adm64, In the new version some of the drivers used on this system may require additional firemware files eg. radeon/b43/tg3 see attachment. i've already installed raedon RS960_cp.bin,tg3 by using apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree, but after apt-get install b43-fwcutter, then system still complain b43 not found. see the output of dmesg: :~# dmesg|grep -i -e error -e fail -e warn [ 0.00] ACPI Error: 32/64X address mismatch in Pm2ControlBlock: 8800/8100, using 32 (20090903/tbfadt-427) [ 0.791440] PM: Resume from disk failed. [ 2.308698] PM: Error -22 checking image file [ 2.308700] PM: Resume from disk failed. [ 6.437797] amd64_edac: probe of :00:18.2 failed with error -22 [ 22.048527] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode13.fw not found [ 22.055643] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode13.fw not found [ 22.063020] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website. [ 22.846726] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode13.fw not found [ 22.853638] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode13.fw not found [ 22.860374] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website and this time i have xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse EndSection Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Configured Monitor EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor EndSection On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:13 PM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: first, you might want to reply to the list. i'll go through what i see here for now. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Jackie Wang jackie2004.w...@gmail.com wrote: root@Ming:~# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 7914 00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 2) 00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2) 00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3) 00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4) 00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] ^ there's your video card but, i've left the rest in because i don't necessarily think this is the issue here. 02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b6) 02:04.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 02) 10:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02) root@Ming:~# lsmod Module Size Used by ppdev 5030 0 lp 7462 0 sco 7209 2 bridge
Re: debian 6 - latest release - internet connection
Johan Scheepers, 20.03.2011: After installing debian 6 it was found that it prefers built in wireless connection on my dsl. The wire connection was inserted and available. The wireless connection works ok at 55% but I would prefer wired connection. Fedora, centos, mandriva prefers wired connection on installation. Could there be a reason for debian's behaviour. When you say inserted and available do you mean just plugged in, or actually working in Debian? Could it be that the wired ethernet card was not recognized and/or no driver was loaded? Does the wired interface work if you turn off the wireless manually? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326183435.ga28...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot
Le 26/03/2011 15:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: 25/03/2011 21:19, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile w/o errors. They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2 --initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid. I have looked at the initrd files with cpio and I see nothing wrong: the 'init' file is there as it should be, etc. But what to look for? I use legacy-grub and that just sits there with 'boot' as the last command, forever. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to try next? I have used make-kpkg many times, but not in the last 5 months, and this has never happened to me. Hugo Hi, I don't think there is a general problem in kernel-package (12.036+nmu1 here), I compiled three kernels (2.6.37* and 2.6.38*) this week and one more is backing right now without issue. Are the required hooks scripts for your setup in place and valid (see /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/) ? Any module missing from /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ? I did not change the scripts in /etc/kernel. Did you? Yes, this is from kernel-package README : Let me repeat: Since nothing is created automatically. you need to provide a hook script for things to happen when you install the kernel image package. The user provides such scripts. For example, to invoke mkinitramfs, I did: --8---cut here---start-8--- cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs \ /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs \ /etc/kernel/postrm.d/ --8---cut here---end---8--- These scripts above to nothing unless the corresponding packages are installed (initramfs-tools or yaird), so you could potentially cp both over -- as long as you never install both yaird and initramfs-tools at the same time. To run grub, I have in /etc/kernel-img.conf: --8---cut here---start-8--- postinst_hook = update-grub postrm_hook = update-grub --8---cut here---end---8--- You can look at other example in the examples directory: /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/ to see if there are other example script you want to cp into /etc/kernel -- and you can create your own scripts. This is my setup : ls -lR /etc/kernel/ /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d: total 8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 436 4 juin 2010 dkms -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1404 1 mai2009 link /etc/kernel/header_postrm.d: total 4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 522 1 mai2009 link /etc/kernel/header_preinst.d: total 0 /etc/kernel/header_prerm.d: total 4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 430 1 mai2009 link /etc/kernel/postinst.d: total 24 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 436 4 juin 2010 dkms -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 612 1 mai2009 initramfs -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 704 9 juil. 2010 initramfs-tools -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 196 30 nov. 2009 pm-utils -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3326 10 sept. 2009 symlink_hook -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 496 18 déc. 19:40 zz-update-grub /etc/kernel/postrm.d: total 12 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 919 1 mai2009 initramfs -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 567 9 juil. 2010 initramfs-tools -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 496 18 déc. 19:40 zz-update-grub /etc/kernel/preinst.d: total 0 /etc/kernel/prerm.d: total 4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 630 17 juil. 2010 dkms Ignore dkms which is not relevant to your situation. The scripts are mostly the example ones provided by kernel-package, some slightly adapted to my taste. Also : cat /etc/kernel-img.conf # Kernel image management overrides # See kernel-img.conf(5) for details do_symlinks = yes relative_links = yes do_bootloader = no do_bootfloppy = no do_initrd = yes link_in_boot = no image_dest = / I have not added any module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. I have special needs since my system is LUKS on raid for everything except /boot, maybe you don't need anything special here. Maybe you could try with make deb-pkg target and see if it boots this way. Never used that before. But I ran make deb-pkg in the kernel tree and that created a .deb. Installed that and booted that kernel and it behaved exactly the same way: last grub command is 'boot' and it just sits there. Hugo The deb-pkg target has been added some time ago and it is now the preferred way to build a kernel image in Debian if I understood well, I still prefer to use kernel-package though. If the custom kernel image doesn't boot using the stock config from a Debian kernel (known to boot), then the image and/or initrd is in the wrong place, doesn't exist, or doesn't contain what's needed for your setup. That's why I would recommend booting from a Debian kernel, having a look at the loaded modules to see if something could be missing from your initrd (and then add it to
Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1
not your exact issue, but i figured i'd spend a minute and help you a little with google. these should give you some pointers for troubleshooting the video: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604866 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-819024-start-0.html sense you reinstalled, i'm sorta agreeing that it's a driver issue. however, if you still want to sorta see whether it's an x issue: swilson-mbp-vdebian:~/code/node# sa -c 37 100.00% 2.43re 100.00% 0.02cp 100.00% 0avio 3145k 26 70.27% 2.39re 98.65% 0.02cp 92.45% 0avio 3445k ***other* 25.41% 0.03re1.26% 0.00cp6.60% 0avio 3171k dpkg 25.41% 0.00re0.01% 0.00cp0.94% 0avio 964k run-parts 7 18.92% 0.00re0.08% 0.00cp0.00% 0avio 2643k man* (i didn't have acct on my system, so i don't have much of an example) either way, if you have x, it should be at the top, if you have something else shooting you it should be above x. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinbzjul34c-k2eicblua+hkgdfmxn3ak3mkm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot
On 2011-03-26 19:47 +0100, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, this is from kernel-package README : Let me repeat: Since nothing is created automatically. you need to provide a hook script for things to happen when you install the kernel image package. The user provides such scripts. For example, to invoke mkinitramfs, I did: cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs \ /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs \ /etc/kernel/postrm.d/ These scripts above to nothing unless the corresponding packages are installed (initramfs-tools or yaird), so you could potentially cp both over -- as long as you never install both yaird and initramfs-tools at the same time. This is outdated. Since initramfs-tools 0.94, the hook scripts provided by initramfs-tools work fine with kernel packages created by make-kpkg. To run grub, I have in /etc/kernel-img.conf: postinst_hook = update-grub postrm_hook = update-grub This is also outdated, in Squeeze and later grub (and also grub-legacy) provides hook scripts in /etc/kernel that will be run automatically. In fact, grub-legacy's postinst script will remove the above lines from /etc/kernel-img.conf. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vcz5zo24@turtle.gmx.de
Re: recover partition table
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:42:15 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote: I don't want to offend you, but all that you wrote I already found from google and friends. What I did not find is some info about partman logging. Searching debian MLs for partman has millions of hits, so its the same like no hits - can't read all that. As partman is internal to d-i, where can I find some info about the numbers shown around partition informations? Sorry. I guess I didn't understand what you were asking for. In answer to your question, probably nowhere. But I can make some educated guesses. For example, here's an excerpt from my /var/log/installer/partman file: - . . . /lib/partman/choose_partition/35crypto/choices: IN: PARTITIONS =dev=hda parted_server: Read command: PARTITIONS parted_server: command_partitions() parted_server: Opening outfifo parted_server: OUT: OK parted_server: OUT: 1 32256-526417919 526385664 primary linux-swap /dev/hda1 parted_server: OUT: 2 526417920-37523727359 36997309440 primary ext3 /dev/hda2 parted_server: OUT: 3 37523727360-3536639 2475809280 primary ext3 /dev/hda3 parted_server: Partitions printed . . . - The first number after OUT is probably the partition number. Next is two numbers separated by a hyphen. I'm guessing that that is the starting and ending sector numbers. Then comes a third number. I'm guessing that that is the total number of sectors in the partition. Next comes the partition type (primary) and the type of file system in the partition (ext3). Now if my guesses are correct, then the ending sector number minus the starting sector number plus one should equal the number of sectors in the partition. Let's see. Hmm. Yes, the math holds up in all the above examples. Let's double check that with the current output of parted /dev/sda unit s print free. Hmm. No, these are not sector numbers, these are byte offsets. Converting them to sector numbers gives 1 63-1028159 1028097 primary linux-swap 2 1028160-73288529 72260370 primary ext3 3 73285530-78124094 4835565 primary ext3 And this agrees with the output of parted /dev/sda unit s print free. (To convert the starting byte offset to the starting sector number, simply divide by 512. The same procedure works to convert the number of bytes to the number of sectors: simply divide by 512. To convert an ending byte offset to an ending sector number, the formula is a little more complicated: add 1, divide by 512, then subtract 1.) The corresponding commands to create these partitions would be: parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart primary linux-swap 63 1028159 parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart primary ext3 1028160 73288529 parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart primary ext3 73285530 78124094 It's a seat of the pants kind of thing. You won't likely find any official documentation on it. Hmm. I just discovered a rescue command in parted. It's description is rescue a lost partition. The corresponding syntax for rescue is parted /dev/sda unit s rescue 63 1028159 parted /dev/sda unit s rescue 1028160 73288529 parted /dev/sda unit s rescue 73285530 78124094 I would think rescue would be safer to use than mkpart. Obviously if you're going to rescue a partition, you wouldn't want any blocks of binary zeros written to the beginning, now would you? Of course, you only want to rescue partitions that are not already defined. And rescuing a partition may change the numbers of existing partitions, so watch out for that. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2146860404.1737077.1301167555714.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
X after uograde??
I must have made a mistake during upgrade. Now if I start X using startx exec: 3: /usr/bin/X: not found Is there a way to fix this via reconfigure/reinstall? -ishwar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/Pine.GSO.4.64.1103261642450.21589@unknown
Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot
Le 26/03/2011 20:20, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2011-03-26 19:47 +0100, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, this is from kernel-package README : Let me repeat: Since nothing is created automatically. you need to provide a hook script for things to happen when you install the kernel image package. The user provides such scripts. For example, to invoke mkinitramfs, I did: cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs \ /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs \ /etc/kernel/postrm.d/ These scripts above to nothing unless the corresponding packages are installed (initramfs-tools or yaird), so you could potentially cp both over -- as long as you never install both yaird and initramfs-tools at the same time. This is outdated. Since initramfs-tools 0.94, the hook scripts provided by initramfs-tools work fine with kernel packages created by make-kpkg. To run grub, I have in /etc/kernel-img.conf: postinst_hook = update-grub postrm_hook = update-grub This is also outdated, in Squeeze and later grub (and also grub-legacy) provides hook scripts in /etc/kernel that will be run automatically. In fact, grub-legacy's postinst script will remove the above lines from /etc/kernel-img.conf. Sven Ok, thank you for the update, this is good news for users. It wasn't the case back in k-p 12.001 when I put the scripts in place. Maybe it's time for a bug report to update k-p documentation ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e50ff.5050...@googlemail.com
Re: X after uograde??
On 2011-03-26 21:45 +0100, I Rattan wrote: I must have made a mistake during upgrade. Now if I start X using startx exec: 3: /usr/bin/X: not found Is there a way to fix this via reconfigure/reinstall? Looks like the xserver-xorg package is not installed: , | $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/X | xserver-xorg: /usr/bin/X ` Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871v1tzjt4@turtle.gmx.de
Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?
On 03/26/2011 07:18 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 26/03/11 13:13, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Most probably. A similar addon (Old Location Bar) makes FF3.x tolerable. Do you mean it puts location bar above tabs? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/old-location-bar/ Causes Firefox 3's Location Bar AwesomeBar to look and act more like Firefox 2's old location bar. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e52e3.8030...@cox.net
Re: recover partition table
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 02:59:20PM +0100, Geronimo wrote: Hello, thank your for your assistance. Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo: Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ... maybe you can fix it, when you use fdisk, Not sure about fdisk. Does fdisk write partition table entry only? ... or does it have side effects on existing data - like wiping out superblock of existing fs, so you have to format the partition? I don't want to increase the damage, therefore I ask before doing anything. I would dd the disk to another disk or file before trying any recovery steps that you're not sure of. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110326213816.gb27...@aurora.owens.net
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Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot
On 27/03/11 00:29, Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:11 -0400 (EDT), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile w/o errors. They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2 --initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid. Could your problem be the missing =:- make-kpkg --revision*=*1?? From my notes for --append-to-version:- You may use alphanumeric characters, + and . (period or full stop); do not use underscore _ or spaces, = is required From my dodgy memory the same rules apply to --revision Also you order the process differently, not sure if that matters, at a minimum I'd use:- make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers I'd normally use something like:- make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --revision=custom kernel_image kernel_headers Perhaps someone else can tell whether the syntax (=), and/or the order is important? snipped After the official Debian resources I use http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_Kernel_Newbies (which better qualifies my level of expertise!) Cheers -- A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e695d.5080...@gmail.com