Re: Problema amb Slashdot

2011-03-26 Thread Ernest Adrogué
25/03/11 @ 23:31 (+0100), ilion1...@gmail.com escriu:
 Sembla que la cosa és més greu tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb
 cap programa (Amarok i gPodder).
 En el ordinador que te lenny cap problema el problema és a l'ordinador
 que te squeeze.
 Crec que ha estat alguna actualització d'aquesta setmana ja que fins
 ara tant Iceweassel com el baixar podcasts funcionava correctament.

Acabo de provar-ho i tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb
el gPodder. Amb el telnet veig que dóna error 502 Bad Gateway:

ernest@doriath:~$ telnet www.bbc.co.uk 80
Trying 212.58.246.95...
Connected to www.bbc.net.uk.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: www.bbc.net.uk

HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway
Content-Length: 208
Proxy-Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:09:35 GMT

htmlheadtitleConnection Error/title/headbodyh1Connection
Error/h1pUnable to connect to the requested
site./ph3Details/h3Error resolving hostname www.bbc.net.uk:
timed out/body/htmlConnection closed by foreign host.

No hi entenc massa però m'atreviria a dir que és un
problema de l'ISP, en el meu cas, Telefonica.

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Re: Problema amb Slashdot

2011-03-26 Thread ilion1250
EL Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:18:44 +0100
Ernest Adrogué eadro...@gmx.net escrigué:

 25/03/11 @ 23:31 (+0100), ilion1...@gmail.com escriu:
  Sembla que la cosa és més greu tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC
  amb cap programa (Amarok i gPodder).
  En el ordinador que te lenny cap problema el problema és a
  l'ordinador que te squeeze.
  Crec que ha estat alguna actualització d'aquesta setmana ja que fins
  ara tant Iceweassel com el baixar podcasts funcionava correctament.
 
 Acabo de provar-ho i tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb
 el gPodder. Amb el telnet veig que dóna error 502 Bad Gateway:
 
 ernest@doriath:~$ telnet www.bbc.co.uk 80
 Trying 212.58.246.95...
 Connected to www.bbc.net.uk.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 GET / HTTP/1.1
 Host: www.bbc.net.uk
 
 HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway
 Content-Length: 208
 Proxy-Connection: close
 Content-Type: text/html
 Pragma: no-cache
 Cache-Control: no-cache
 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:09:35 GMT
 
 htmlheadtitleConnection Error/title/headbodyh1Connection
 Error/h1pUnable to connect to the requested
 site./ph3Details/h3Error resolving hostname www.bbc.net.uk:
 timed out/body/htmlConnection closed by foreign host.
 
 No hi entenc massa però m'atreviria a dir que és un
 problema de l'ISP, en el meu cas, Telefonica.
 

Jo també tinc telefònica com ISP, però amb el Chromium si que puc
carregar les pàgines i amb el portàtil que porta lenny puc fer-ho tot
sense cap problema.
Jo crec que potser el problema es deu a alguna actualització feta durant
els darrers dies.


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Re: Problema amb Slashdot

2011-03-26 Thread Ferran Juanos
He trobat una solució provisional que consisteix en el següent:

Has canviar les DNS i posar 8.8.8.8 i 8.8.4.4 i seguidament (per no perdre
la informació posar les actuals les quals possiblement si com jo el teu ISP
es telefònica seran 195.235.113.3, 195.235.96.90.
En tornar a obrir els programes ja podràs navegar pels sites de la BBC i
baixar podcasts de a BBC.

Per tant com deies tot sembla indicar que potser el problema es als
servidors DNS de telefònica tot i que en el portàtil amb lenny em funciona
correctament.

Miraré si els puc enviar un mail o una trucada al 1004


2011/3/26 Ernest Adrogué eadro...@gmx.net

 25/03/11 @ 23:31 (+0100), ilion1...@gmail.com escriu:
  Sembla que la cosa és més greu tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb
  cap programa (Amarok i gPodder).
  En el ordinador que te lenny cap problema el problema és a l'ordinador
  que te squeeze.
  Crec que ha estat alguna actualització d'aquesta setmana ja que fins
  ara tant Iceweassel com el baixar podcasts funcionava correctament.

 Acabo de provar-ho i tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb
 el gPodder. Amb el telnet veig que dóna error 502 Bad Gateway:

 ernest@doriath:~$ telnet www.bbc.co.uk 80
 Trying 212.58.246.95...
 Connected to www.bbc.net.uk.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 GET / HTTP/1.1
 Host: www.bbc.net.uk

 HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway
 Content-Length: 208
 Proxy-Connection: close
 Content-Type: text/html
 Pragma: no-cache
 Cache-Control: no-cache
 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:09:35 GMT

 htmlheadtitleConnection Error/title/headbodyh1Connection
 Error/h1pUnable to connect to the requested
 site./ph3Details/h3Error resolving hostname www.bbc.net.uk:
 timed out/body/htmlConnection closed by foreign host.

 No hi entenc massa però m'atreviria a dir que és un
 problema de l'ISP, en el meu cas, Telefonica.

 --
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Re: Problema amb Slashdot

2011-03-26 Thread ilion1250
EL Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:04:48 +0100

Confirmat que el tema de la BBC es un problema de telefònica, he
contactat amb ells per xat i m'han indicat que efectivament els seus
servidors DNS tenen alguns problemes amb les pàgines estrangeres,
realment és una sorpresa sorprenent ja que es de suposar que la gent no
només és connecta a pàgines d'Espanya i a més la BBC es un lloc de
força tràfic.
Per tant de moment deixo les DNS de google i apa.


  25/03/11 @ 23:31 (+0100), ilion1...@gmail.com escriu:
   Sembla que la cosa és més greu tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la
   BBC amb cap programa (Amarok i gPodder).
   En el ordinador que te lenny cap problema el problema és a
   l'ordinador que te squeeze.
   Crec que ha estat alguna actualització d'aquesta setmana ja que
   fins ara tant Iceweassel com el baixar podcasts funcionava
   correctament.
 
  Acabo de provar-ho i tampoc puc baixar podcasts de la BBC amb
  el gPodder. Amb el telnet veig que dóna error 502 Bad Gateway:
 
  ernest@doriath:~$ telnet www.bbc.co.uk 80
  Trying 212.58.246.95...
  Connected to www.bbc.net.uk.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  GET / HTTP/1.1
  Host: www.bbc.net.uk
 
  HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway
  Content-Length: 208
  Proxy-Connection: close
  Content-Type: text/html
  Pragma: no-cache
  Cache-Control: no-cache
  Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:09:35 GMT
 
  htmlheadtitleConnection
  Error/title/headbodyh1Connection Error/h1pUnable to
  connect to the requested site./ph3Details/h3Error resolving
  hostname www.bbc.net.uk: timed out/body/htmlConnection closed
  by foreign host.
 
  No hi entenc massa però m'atreviria a dir que és un
  problema de l'ISP, en el meu cas, Telefonica.
 
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Re: double écran lxde

2011-03-26 Thread nono
Le vendredi 25 mars 2011 à 22:23 +0100, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
 Le Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:02:01 +0100,
 nono pingven...@free.fr a écrit :
 
  Salut
  
  J'ai installé sur mon système un double écran avec l'environnement
  graphique lxde. 
  Tout fonctionne correctement, cependant :
  
  à l'ouverture de session je dois saisir le nom de login et mot de
  passe dans 2 champs qui se trouvent à cheval sur les 2 écrans. Ce
  n'est pas dramatique mais c'est disgracieux et donc primordial ;)
  
  exemple avec login « marcel » et mot de passe « monmdp » :
  
  -  -
  |   |  |   |
  |mar|  |cel|
  |mon|  |mdp|
  |   |  |   |
  |   |  |   |
  -  -
écran gaucheécran droit
  
  
  
  Comment obtenir ceci : (avec login et mdp sur le même écran)  ?
  -  -
  |   |  |   |
  |marcel |  |   |
  |monmdp |  |   |
  |   |  |   |
  |   |  |   |
  -  -
écran gaucheécran droit
  
  
  nono
 
 bonjour,
 
   serait il posssible de donner les options employées pour xorg et
   de les comparer vis à vis de ces  liens :
 
   http://www.debian-fr.org/xrandr-dual-screen-t25961.html
   http://www.guim.info/dokuwiki/debian/dual_screen

Je vais regardé cela lundi. Le système utilise une carte nvdia avec le
pilote proprio (désolé) car je n'y arrivai pas autrement.


 descriptif de xinerama :
 
   http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama
 
   un lien plus ancien :
 
   
 http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/translations/fr/html-1page/Xinerama-HOWTO.html
   http://www.xfree86.org/current/chips5.html
 
   ensuite serait il possible de savoir si xinerama est employé ?
 
   liste des paquets :
 
   dpkg -l |awk '{print $2 $3}'|grep xinerama

Merci pour la commande. Il me semble que j'avais installé xinerama dans
mes divers essais mais je ne pourrai pas dire que le système s'en sert.
Je regarde cela de plus près dès lundi.

merci Bernard

nono

 
   slt
   bernard
 



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Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian

2011-03-26 Thread maderios

On 03/25/2011 09:03 PM, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote:

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:44:52 +0100
maderiosmader...@gmail.com  wrote:

...

Ma question intrinsèque était: comment les autres distributions arrivent
à contourner le problème ? Les bases de méta-données, cele se sauvegarde


Tout simplement en fournissant des packages qu'elle savent pertinemment
buggés...

Bonjour
Oui, mais d'un autre coté, ces distributions, à la différence de Debian, 
ont un rôle moteur en soumettant aux utilisateurs des versions de 
Digikam pas vraiment stables.
On peut constater sur la liste digikam-us...@kde.org que le 
développement est grandement aidé par les retours des utilisateurs.C'est 
une démarche inspirée de ce qui est décrit dans  La cathédrale et le 
bazar, texte inspiré de la démarche originale de L.Torvalds.
distribuez vite et souvent, déléguez tout ce que vous pouvez déléguer, 
soyez ouverts jusqu'à la promiscuité

http://www.linux-france.org/article/these/cathedrale-bazar/cathedrale-bazar_monoblock.html
M
PS: La démarche bazar peut également produire ses fruits en politique, 
mais c'est un autre débat .


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Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian

2011-03-26 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:16:16 +0100,
maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On 03/25/2011 09:03 PM, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote:
  On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:44:52 +0100
  maderiosmader...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  ...
  Ma question intrinsèque était: comment les autres distributions
  arrivent à contourner le problème ? Les bases de méta-données,
  cele se sauvegarde
 
  Tout simplement en fournissant des packages qu'elle savent
  pertinemment buggés...
 Bonjour
 Oui, mais d'un autre coté, ces distributions, à la différence de
 Debian, ont un rôle moteur en soumettant aux utilisateurs des
 versions de Digikam pas vraiment stables.
 On peut constater sur la liste digikam-us...@kde.org que le 
 développement est grandement aidé par les retours des
 utilisateurs.C'est une démarche inspirée de ce qui est décrit dans
 La cathédrale et le bazar, texte inspiré de la démarche originale
 de L.Torvalds. distribuez vite et souvent, déléguez tout ce que vous
 pouvez déléguer, soyez ouverts jusqu'à la promiscuité
 http://www.linux-france.org/article/these/cathedrale-bazar/cathedrale-bazar_monoblock.html
 M
 PS: La démarche bazar peut également produire ses fruits en
 politique, mais c'est un autre débat .

bonjour,

réponse :  oui, mais ...

remarque simple et maxime :

l'on ne peut avoir le beurre, l'argent du beurre et le sourire de
la crémière ...


autre point : 

apt-cache rdepends digikam
digikam
Reverse Depends:
  kipi-plugins
  kdelibs-data
  ezgo-imaging
  showfoto
  showfoto
  showfoto
  digikam-dbg
  digikam-data
  digikam-data
  digikam-doc
  education-desktop-kde


apt-cache depends digikam 
digikam
  Dépend: kdebase-runtime
  Dépend: kdepim-runtime
  Dépend: libc6
  Dépend: libgcc1
  Dépend: libglib2.0-0
  Dépend: libgphoto2-2
  Dépend: libgphoto2-port0
  Dépend: libjasper1
  Dépend: libjpeg62
  Dépend: libkabc4
  Dépend: libkdcraw8
  Dépend: libkde3support4
  Dépend: libkdecore5
  Dépend: libkdeui5
  Dépend: libkexiv2-8
  Dépend: libkfile4
  Dépend: libkhtml5
  Dépend: libkio5
  Dépend: libkipi7
  Dépend: libkjsapi4
  Dépend: libknotifyconfig4
  Dépend: libkparts4
  Dépend: libkresources4
  Dépend: libkutils4
  Dépend: liblcms1
  Dépend: liblensfun0
  Dépend: liblqr-1-0
  Dépend: libmarblewidget4
  Dépend: libphonon4
  Dépend: libpng12-0
  Dépend: libqt4-dbus
  Dépend: libqt4-network
  Dépend: libqt4-qt3support
  Dépend: libqt4-sql
  Dépend: libqt4-svg
  Dépend: libqt4-xml
  Dépend: libqtcore4
  Dépend: libqtgui4
  Dépend: libsolid4
  Dépend: libstdc++6
  Dépend: libtiff4
  Dépend: libx11-6
  Dépend: libxau6
  Dépend: libxdmcp6
  Dépend: phonon
  Dépend: zlib1g
  Dépend: libqt4-sql-sqlite
  Dépend: digikam-data
  Suggère: digikam-doc
  Recommande: www-browser
conkeror
edbrowse
elinks-lite
elvis-console
lynx-cur
netsurf
netsurf-gtk
netsurf-linuxfb
netsurf-sdl
netsurf-vnc
uzbl
chimera2
chromium
elinks
elvis
epiphany-browser
galeon
iceape-browser
iceweasel
kazehakase
konqueror
links
links2
midori
netrik
opera
rekonq
surf
xemacs21-mule
xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn
xemacs21-nomule
w3m
  Recommande: kipi-plugins

résultat, en trépignant de colère sur le fait que la version est 
obsolète
par rapport aux petit copains qui en ont une plus belle 

l'utilisateur est prêt à prendre le risque de faire écrouler le tout
comme un chateau de cartes ...


Si Vous tennez exactement à obtenir la dernière version de votre
pouic-pouic photo, prend le fichier sources et installe le 
avec la procédure et les outils suivants :

dh-di - Debhelper addon for debian-installer
dh-make - Outil de conversion des archives sources en paquet source Debian
dh-autoreconf - debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build
autoconf - automatic configure script builder
maint-guide-fr - French translation of Debian New Maintainers' Guide
debian-builder - reconstruction de paquets Debian à partir du code source

et voici les liens :

http://www.deepnet.cx/debbuild/

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/How-to-make-deb-packages/

lien et procédure pour télécharger :

http://www.digikam.org/drupal/download?q=download/GIT

et la motivation du team debian :

http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=digikam
http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/digikam.html

http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org.html#digikam

cqfd

slt
bernard

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Détection de lecteur CD sous Gnome

2011-03-26 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Bonjour,

Sous Debian stable (6), les lecteurs IDE de CD ou DVD pleins sont
détectés de façon aléatoire sous Nautilus. Seul un montage à la main
(mount) fonctionne à tous les coups chez moi (sauf parfois sur le
lecteur LG un peu fatigué) et alors, par miracle, Gnome voit enfin le
lecteur. Pas toujours pratique quand on est pressé. Quand le lecteur
est vide, suivant sa marque (LG pour les CD seuls ou graveur DVD NEC),
il est parfois détecté, parfois pas. Les entrées /dev/sr0 et sr1
existent pourtant toujours.

Fonctionneemnt parfait avec l'USB.

Où cela se règle t-il ? Gvfs ? HAL ? Pourquoi je n'ai jamais vu ce
genre de problème sous Mandriva ? HAL ne doit t-il pas disparaître à
terme ? Où règlera t-on ce comportement ? Je rappelle qu'autofs que
l'on rencontre partout dans les docs n'est pratiquement pas utilisé
pour ça par les distributions, donc oublions car peu pratique.

Beaucoup de questions

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Re: freeze après mise en veille et hibernation

2011-03-26 Thread hogren
Bonjour, tout d'abord désolé du temps d'absence. Je n'ai que très de 
temps pour bidouiller sur cet ordinateur.



On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:28:46 +0100, Daniel Caillibaud wrote:


dpkg -l |awk '/ii.*acpi/ {print   }'  list-pkg-acpi.txt
ou (plus lent car aptitude plus lourd, mais syntaxe peut-être plus
simple à mémoriser)
aptitude search acpi~i  list-pkg-acpi.txt


Voici mon fichier list-pkg-acpi.txt :
acpi 1.5-2
acpi-fakekey 0.137-5
acpi-support 0.137-5
acpi-support-base 0.137-5
acpid 1:2.0.7-1

On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:25:18 +0100, manuk7 wrote:


Cependant par un moment j'utilisais s2ram (paquet uswsusp) pour
passer en veille, et ça freezait (généralement quelques minutes après
la sortie de veille). On m'a alors conseillé d'utiliser pm-suspend
(paquet pm-utils), et je n'avais plus de problème de freeze ensuite.



J'ai regardé, en console, la commande s2ram est introuvable et le 
paquet uswsusp n'existe pas sur les dêpots. En revanche pm-suspend est 
présent. J'en déduit donc que c'est celui qui est utilisé.




Sinon je continue à faire des tests. Merci pour votre aide !



Florian HEGRON

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[RESOLU] freeze après mise en veille et hibernation

2011-03-26 Thread hogren

Bonjour,

Après avoir eu le temps de bidouiller comme expliqué dans mon 
précédent message, J'ai trouvé une solution.
Entre le probleme de manuk7 et le problème inverse cité ici, 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=561877 (dont la 
solution ne marche pas chez moi, car ce n'est pas le même modèle de pc 
(ni la même marque)), j'ai remarqué que ce pour qui ça ne marchait pas 
avec pm-suspend, cela fonctionnait avec s2ram, et vice et versa.


J'ai donc pris sur les dếpots sid le paquet uswsusp et je peux 
désinstallé désormais pm-utils.


Reste plus qu'à me documenter pour savoir comment remplacer le chemin 
du bouton mettre en veille de gnome.


Merci à tous,

Amicalement,

Florian HEGRON

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Re: [RESOLU] freeze après mise en veille et hibernation

2011-03-26 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:43:06 +0100,
hog...@iiiha.com a écrit :

  Bonjour,
 
  Après avoir eu le temps de bidouiller comme expliqué dans mon 
  précédent message, J'ai trouvé une solution.
  Entre le probleme de manuk7 et le problème inverse cité ici, 
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=561877 (dont la 
  solution ne marche pas chez moi, car ce n'est pas le même modèle de
 pc (ni la même marque)), j'ai remarqué que ce pour qui ça ne marchait
 pas avec pm-suspend, cela fonctionnait avec s2ram, et vice et versa.
 
  J'ai donc pris sur les dếpots sid le paquet uswsusp et je peux 
  désinstallé désormais pm-utils.
 
  Reste plus qu'à me documenter pour savoir comment remplacer le
 chemin du bouton mettre en veille de gnome.
 
  Merci à tous,
 
  Amicalement,
 
  Florian HEGRON

Bonjour,



Enfin un message encourageant et indiquant l'évolution positive
et les progrès du novice ...

Félicitation, il est dans la bonne voie

slt
bernard

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Re: [HS] Bad news

2011-03-26 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le  4 mars 2011, Antoine a écrit :

 Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :
  http://www.lessentiel.lu/fr/news/france/story/Les-mots-de-passe-obligees-d-e-tre-conservees-18954131
 

 Bonjour,
 
 Je crois que le texte paru au journal officiel est le suivant :
 
 http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do;jsessionid=83DE652BF02120481DFB772C6EDECB22.tpdjo12v_2?cidTexte=JORFTEXT23646013categorieLien=id
 
 Je sais bien que ça sort à priori des objectifs de la liste, hormis peut 
 être pour certaines implications techniques qui dépassent mes 
 compétences, mais en temps que modeste debianiste et internaute (je 
 surfe, je m'informe, je blogue -donc je produit du contenu en ligne, je 
 discute et j'achète), je ne suis pas sûr -ou alors ma candeur m'enpêche- 
 de décrypter correctement ce décret (qui effectivement ne sort pas de 
 nulle part), et je cherche éventuellement un article, une analyse, un 
 embryon de réflexion sur les implications effective de ce texte, y 
 compris techniques.
 
 Un lien ? Des idées ? Des remarques ?

Voilà, voilà.

Vous êtes tous des délinquants en puissance ou plutôt on vous considère
comme des enfants immatures et dangereux. Donc, vous devez rendre des
comptes à Big Brother (mégalomanie, électoralisme malsain et j'en
passe) ou à la Komm.. Si les tunisiens, les égytiens avaient eu ce
décret chez eux au moins leurs chefs les auraient empêchés de mettre
une pagaille sans nom. Vous vous rendez compte, ils veulent la
démocratie, le pouvoir au peuple et puis quoi encore ! Heureusement, en
France, pays démcratique nous avons ce décret qui empêche les
dérives terhorhistes !
N'en disons pas plus (fichage and co).

Bien le bonjour chez vous.

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Re: [HS] Bad news

2011-03-26 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:17:09 +0100
Alain Rpnpif rpn...@free.fr wrote:

...
 Voilà, voilà.
 
 Vous êtes tous des délinquants en puissance ou plutôt on vous considère
 comme des enfants immatures et dangereux.

C'est le credo de base de tous les gouvernements de ce pays...

 Donc, vous devez rendre des
 comptes à Big Brother (mégalomanie, électoralisme malsain et j'en
 passe) ou à la Komm..

andantur - le point Godwin a depuis longtemps été dépassé par ces guignols
qui esquissent un ersatz de pays libre et le vendent comme une démocratie.

 Si les tunisiens, les égytiens avaient eu ce
 décret chez eux au moins leurs chefs les auraient empêchés de mettre
 une pagaille sans nom. Vous vous rendez compte, ils veulent la
 démocratie, le pouvoir au peuple et puis quoi encore ! Heureusement, en
 France, pays démcratique nous avons ce décret qui empêche les
 dérives terhorhistes !

C'est l'idée: bientôt les pays du sud seront plus démocratiques que les
oligarchies occidentales; un comble (non-aménagé:)

 N'en disons pas plus (fichage and co).
 
 Bien le bonjour chez vous.
 
JE NE SUIS PAS UN NUMÉRO! ;-p

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Re: KMS, Intel, kernel 2.6.38... rien de nouveau !

2011-03-26 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le 22 mars 2011, Anthony Bourguignon a écrit :

  C'est justement le but de KMS, d'être en résolution native dès le boot.
 
  Perso je l'utilises avec ma radeon depuis que ça a été intégré dans le 
  kernel et j'ai toujours pas trouvé de point négatif. Plus de transitions 
  du au changement de résolution entre la console et X par exemple. C'est 
  appréciable.

Et bien sur ma vieille Radeon, ça fait planter certains logiciels dont
Firefox. Donc exit KMS pour l'instant, on verra plus tard.

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RE: [HS] Bad news

2011-03-26 Thread romain boucq


 
 Le  4 mars 2011, Antoine a écrit :
 
  Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :
   http://www.lessentiel.lu/fr/news/france/story/Les-mots-de-passe-obligees-d-e-tre-conservees-18954131
  
 
  Bonjour,
  
  Je crois que le texte paru au journal officiel est le suivant :
  
  http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do;jsessionid=83DE652BF02120481DFB772C6EDECB22.tpdjo12v_2?cidTexte=JORFTEXT23646013categorieLien=id
  
Bonjour,

Ce décret vient compléter les lois informatique et libertés et economie 
numérique en précisant les données qui doivent être conservées par les 
hébergeurs de site internet ou les personnes qui fournissent un service de 
communication en ligne comme Youtube par exemple.  D'après ma propre analyse 
juridique, je pense que Ebay et twitter ne sont pas concernés par le décret. 

On entend par communication au public en ligne toute transmission, sur
demande individuelle, de données numériques n'ayant pas un caractère de
correspondance privée, par un procédé de communication électronique
permettant un échange réciproque d'informations entre l'émetteur et le
récepteur. 

Concernant Ebay : il y a un échange de données mais pas d'échange réciproque 
d'information (au sens légal et non pas informatique). En effet, les échanges 
entre le vendeur et l'acheteur sont des correspondaces privées (à la différence 
de commentaire laissée sur un blog ou dans un forum).

Concernant Twitter : la question est plus délicate, néanmoins dans la mesure où 
l'on peut choisr des tweets privés réservés aux seuls membres choisis, il me 
semble que la question reste délicate. De même pour Facebook dans la mesure où 
l'utilisateur peut restreindre les accès à ses seuls amis. Même si cela 
concerne les seuls choix d'un utilisateur , la loi ne pourrait pas s'appliquer 
de manière aussi générale. Evidemment, l'actualité fait pencher pour une 
interprétation large : http://www.lemonde.fr/tiny/1498945/#xtor=AL-32280258 
mais je ne suis pas aussi convaincu. 

L'objectif de ce décret me semble plus destiné à éviter l'usurpation d'identité 
sur internet, dans la mesure où une personne qui mettrait à disposition des 
logiciels contrefaits, pourrait ouvrir un compte sous une fausse identité que 
destiné à trouver des activistes quelconques ou pour traquer la liberté 
d'expression... De même que la li dans l'économie numérique a évité que les 
prestataires de services en ligne puissent modifier unilatéralement leur 
conditions générales de vente sans prévenir leur usager en imposant 
l'obligation de conserver de manière sécurisée les contrats conclus en ligne. 

Voici une première lecture / analyse.

Bon week end

Romain 


  

Re: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian

2011-03-26 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
’soir,

Le samedi 26 mars 2011 à 01:53:42, Thibault Dupuis a écrit :
 Le 25 mars 2011 à 23:59, tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit :
  Bonsoir, j'utilise Digikam au quotidien et je confirme
  qu'il s'agit d'un logiciel parfaitement adapté à la
  gestion de larges photothèques
[…]
 Je suis d'accord avec ce qui a été dit.
 J'ai utilisé pendant pas mal de temps DigiKam avec une grosse
 base de données de photos et je n'ai jamais eu de soucis
 avec.
[…] 

  Mais arrêtez, puisque Bernard vous dit qu’il a raison, enfin !
  Quand verrez-vous la lumière ?

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Re: [HS] Bad news

2011-03-26 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:13:07 +0100
romain boucq rbo...@alter-via.fr wrote:

... 
 Concernant Twitter : la question est plus délicate, néanmoins dans la
 mesure où l'on peut choisr des tweets privés réservés aux seuls membres
 choisis, il me semble que la question reste délicate. De même pour
 Facebook dans la mesure où l'utilisateur peut restreindre les accès à ses
 seuls amis. Même si cela concerne les seuls choix d'un utilisateur , la
 loi ne pourrait pas s'appliquer de manière aussi générale. Evidemment,
 l'actualité fait pencher pour une interprétation large :
 http://www.lemonde.fr/tiny/1498945/#xtor=AL-32280258 mais je ne suis pas
 aussi convaincu. 

Faux, puisque le législateur débile (pléonasme typiquement de ce pays) a
considéré que l'e-mail n'était pas privé; d'où point de départ initial ET
biaisé.

 L'objectif de ce décret me semble plus destiné à éviter l'usurpation
 d'identité sur internet, dans la mesure où une personne qui mettrait à
 disposition des logiciels contrefaits, pourrait ouvrir un compte sous une
 fausse identité que destiné à trouver des activistes quelconques ou pour
 traquer la liberté d'expression...

Faux, l'optique de ce décret est de fliquer tous les intervenants en les
dissuadants par là-même d'intervenir et de contredire le pouvoir en place;
heureusement certains des blogs dissidents ne sont pas hébergés dans le
pays qui a inventé les droits de l'homme et les violent allègrement...

 De même que la li dans l'économie
 numérique a évité que les prestataires de services en ligne puissent
 modifier unilatéralement leur conditions générales de vente sans prévenir
 leur usager en imposant l'obligation de conserver de manière sécurisée les
 contrats conclus en ligne. 

 Voici une première lecture / analyse.

À minima; les ennemis de la liberté d'expression ont TOUJOURS une première
lecture à minima.
 
 Bon week end

Pas vraiment.
 
 Romain 

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Panjem taveejo daavanu karti jau pavisam driz!...

2011-03-26 Thread Agadzanjana Violeta
Virtualais edienu gatavotaajs ienak ari tavaas maajaas -

uztaisi burgerus savaa kompii , bet apeed tos realaa kafejniicaa!
 
http://www.product2poduct6llvegrls.uk.pn/z9ius.html - te viss ir kaa uz delnas!



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Re: Musyawarah (Rapat) Tahunan

2011-03-26 Thread Mahyuddin Susanto
On 11/03/11 09:33, Izharul Haq wrote:
 Komunitas Debian GNU/Linux Indonesia kembali mengadakan Musyawarah
 (Rapat) Tahunan untuk para peminat, pengguna  calon pengembang
 Debian.
 
 Hari: Sabtu
 Tanggal:  19 Maret 2011
 Jam: 21:00 s.d. 22:00*
 Tempat: IRC kanal #debian-id server irc.debian.org (OFTC)**
 
 Catatan khusus:
 1. Bagi yang punya keterkaitan dengan IDDP (Indonesian Debian
 Documentation Project) dimohon kesediaannya untuk hadir.
 2. Dimohon untuk membantu meng-informasikan kepada teman-teman lainnya***.
 
 Terimakasih.
 
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 http://time.is/Indonesia
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Sanem taveejo daavanu karti!...

2011-03-26 Thread Jastrebovs Aleksandrs
Virtualaa ediena pagatavosana ienak ari tavaas majaas (dzivokli) -

sataisi burgerus savaa datoraa vai portatiivajaa , bet notiesaa tos iistaa 
bistro!
 
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Re: (OT) Ventanas metidas en la izquierda de la pantalla

2011-03-26 Thread Carlos Zuniga
2011/3/25 José Manuel (EB8CXW) eb8cx...@infonegocio.com:


 El 25/03/11 12:12, Camaleón escribió:

 El Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:10:06 +, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:



 De un tiempo a esta parte, la ventanas al abrirse (consola, iceweasel,
 icedove, etc.) se queda incrustada en la parte izquierda, y tengo que
 moverlas hacia la derecha para poderlas visualizar bien. He revisado las
 preferencias del sistema, pero no veo donde puedo cambiar ese
 comportamiento para que cuando se abran no se sitúen a la izquierda.


 ¿Qué entorno gráfico usas (gnome, kde...)?

 Deberían mantenerse automáticamente el tamaño y la posición de la ventana
 tras el último cierre... por curiosidad, ¿qué sucede si la maximizas y
 pulsas el botón de cerrar [x], la vuelve a abrir mal colocada y sin
 maximizar? :-?

 Saludos,



 Hola

 Gracias por contestar,  Camaleón lo mande al privado.
 He realizado lo que indica Ivan,  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , pero no
 hace nada, sigue todo igual.
 Camaleón, he realizado lo que me indicas, con la consola, pero al abrirse
 sigue igual queda a la izquierda, y no se abre maximizada sino pequeña.


Que entorno de escritorio y manejador de ventanas usas?
No tendrás instalado el devilspie [0] o algún programa similar? Este
programa espera a que se creen ventanas y realiza alguna acción sobre
ellas (como redimensionarlas y moverlas a alguna parte de la
pantalla).

Saludos

[0] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/devilspie
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Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin

2011-03-26 Thread BasaBuru
On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 00:06:08 Camaleón escribió:
 El Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:39:25 +0100, BasaBuru escribió:
 
 ¿Y si creas un lanzador en el escritorio (vim.desktop) que ejecute
 sencillamente la orden terminator -e vim eliminando así cualquier
 interpretación errónea que pueda hacer del paso de parámetros adicional
 al tener que abrir el archivo? ¿Funciona o no hace nada?

funciona

 No sé, es raro, esperaría ver algún error que lo haga pararse. Pon la
 salida de terminator -d a ver qué dice.

mas abajo
 
 Tengo mis dudas... más que nada por el mensaje de error que has puesto
 (terminator: error: Additional unexpected arguments found: ['/home/
 basati/default.gpfl']).

Si, yo también parece que kde le pasa el fichero a abrir como un argumento a 
terminator que no es capaz de entender como que tiene que abrir el fichero.
 
 Si konsole funciona y xterm funciona cuando las configuras como
 terminales predeterminadas de KDE y KDE pasa los mismos parámetros para
 todas ellas ¿por qué sólo falla con terminator? :-?

Porque es un bug de terminator??? no se me ocurre nada mas. Después de todas 
las pruebas.

Un saludo

BasaBuru

Pasteo la salida terminator -d

basati@basatu:~$ terminator -d
noclass::parse_options: OptionParse::parse_options: command line options: 
{'profile': None, 'nodbus': None, 'execute': None, 'layout': 'default', 
'dummy': None, 'geometry': None, 'fullscreen': None, 'debug_methods': None, 
'maximise': None, 'debug': 1, 'debug_classes': None, 'version': None, 
'working_directory': None, 'borderless': None, 'forcedtitle': None, 'command': 
None, 'hidden': None, 'role': None}
ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded
Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: dbus found in globals: False
noclass::module: dbus disabled
noclass::module: dbus not imported
Factory::__init__: Borg::__init__: Preparing borg state for Factory
Terminator::__init__: Borg::__init__: Preparing borg state for Terminator
ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded
Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default
noclass::get_pid_cwd: Using Linux get_pid_cwd
Terminator::attempt_gnome_client: GNOME session support enabled and registered
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: handle_size found in globals: -1
noclass::module: Creating a terminal with layout: default
Terminator::create_layout: Creating a window
Factory::make: Factory::make: created a Window
Terminator::register_window: Terminator::register_window: registering 
34904176:class 'terminatorlib.window.Window'
ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded
Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: window_state found in globals: 
normal
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: window_state found in globals: 
normal
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: window_state found in globals: 
normal
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: borderless found in globals: False
Window::set_real_transparency: setting rgb colormap
Factory::make: Factory::make: created a Terminal
Terminator::register_terminal: Terminator::register_terminal: registering 
36882304:class 'terminatorlib.terminal.Terminal'
ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded
Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default
Terminal::__init__: composite_support: True
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: try_posix_regexp found in globals: 
False
Terminal::update_url_matches: Terminal::update_url_matches: Trying GNU URL 
regexps
PluginRegistry::__init__: Borg::__init__: Preparing borg state for 
PluginRegistry
PluginRegistry::prepare_attributes: PluginRegistry::prepare_attributes: Plugin 
path: ['/usr/share/terminator/terminatorlib/plugins', 
'/home/basati/.config/terminator/plugins']
ConfigBase::load: ConfigBase::load: config already loaded
Config::set_profile: Config::set_profile: Changing profile to default
PluginRegistry::load_plugins: PluginRegistry::load_plugins: Importing plugin 
testplugin.py  
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: enabled_plugins found in globals: 
['LaunchpadBugURLHandler', 'LaunchpadCodeURLHandler', 'APTURLHandler']
PluginRegistry::load_plugins: plugin TestPlugin not enabled, skipping
PluginRegistry::load_plugins: PluginRegistry::load_plugins: Importing plugin 
maven.py
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: enabled_plugins found in globals: 
['LaunchpadBugURLHandler', 'LaunchpadCodeURLHandler', 'APTURLHandler']
PluginRegistry::load_plugins: plugin MavenPluginURLHandler not enabled, 
skipping
PluginRegistry::load_plugins: PluginRegistry::load_plugins: Importing plugin 
activitywatch.py
ConfigBase::get_item: ConfigBase::get_item: enabled_plugins found in globals: 
['LaunchpadBugURLHandler', 'LaunchpadCodeURLHandler', 'APTURLHandler']
PluginRegistry::load_plugins: plugin ActivityWatch not 

Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin

2011-03-26 Thread Carlos Zuniga
2011/3/25 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org:
 On Jueves 24 Marzo 2011 09:49:41 Camaleón escribió:

 Hum... que no haga nada parece indicar que la instancia que lanzas se
 muere (en silencio) por lo que quizá lo que falle sea la propia
 aplicación terminator.

 Ya he contestado mas abajo en el hilo que peta por que piensa que el fichero
 son argumentos de ejecución y no se aclara. Peta sin mas.

 ¿Has probado a ejecutarlo en modo de depuración? No sé cómo irá
 terminator pero mira a ver si te permite lanzarlo con algún parámetro (-
 d) para ver si te saca algo más.

 Si lo probé pero no decia nada anormal, pero si lo piensas es lógico lo lanzo
 yo y se abre el terminal sin problemas.

 La cuestión yo creo que está en un bug en kde. Tu le das a abrir y ve que es
 una aplicación de terminal y tira del terminal configurado como por defecto
 pero le pasa mal los parámetros.

 Otra cosa que puedes probar es simular lo que hace KDE cuando le dices
 abrir con Por ejemplo, lanza una consola (konsole, xterm,
 terminator...) y ejecuta:

 terminator -e vim

 A ver qué te dice :-?

 Se abre sin problemas, por eso estaba y estoy tan mosca.


Acabo de instalarlo y en el man indica que uses -x si quieres usar
argumentos en tu comando en lugar de -e (si no los toma como
argumentos del propio terminator).

O sea usa abrir con... y coloca `terminator -x vim`.

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Re: Crear Usb booteable de Win7 desde Linux

2011-03-26 Thread RAÚL CARRTERO DE LA CRUZ
Prueba directamente con unetbootin que esta en los repositorios y graba una
iso de tu w7 haber si funciona.


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Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6

2011-03-26 Thread RAÚL CARRTERO DE LA CRUZ
uNetbootin


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Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin

2011-03-26 Thread BasaBuru
On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 08:23:23 Carlos Zuniga escribió:
 2011/3/25 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org:

 Acabo de instalarlo y en el man indica que uses -x si quieres usar
 argumentos en tu comando en lugar de -e (si no los toma como
 argumentos del propio terminator).

Primero mea culpa, no leer la docu. Pero estaba tan convencido de que era un 
problema de kde que no miraba otra cosa

Ahora esto sigue sin resolver el problema. Si en aplicaciones preferidas 
selecciono terminator -x  y selecciono un fichero para abrir con vim solo se 
abre el terminal sin abrir el fichero.

en .xsession-errors ni respira

Si le pongo terminator -x vim abre y  cierra la terminal.

Estoy práctimente convencido de que la opción de seleccionar terminator en 
aplicaciones preferidas no es viable.

 O sea usa abrir con... y coloca `terminator -x vim`.

Gracias por la respuesta

BasaBuru


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OT-FireFTP

2011-03-26 Thread Juan Pablo Alesandri
Hola, buen dia. Alguien probo el complemento para firefox fireftp? Que
opinion tienen al respecto? Es seguro y recomendable?
Muchas gracias

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Re: OT-FireFTP

2011-03-26 Thread Walter O. Dari

Hola Juan Pablo...

El 26/03/11 09:31, Juan Pablo Alesandri escribió:

Hola, buen dia. Alguien probo el complemento para firefox fireftp? Que
opinion tienen al respecto? Es seguro y recomendable?


Lo utilizo -con iceweasel- desde hace mucho tiempo para subir las 
páginas a mi servidor web.
Yo lo veo recomendable, en cuanto a la seguridad no tengo idea pero 
hasta ahora nadie se ha metido con mi página  ;-)




Muchas gracias


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Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6

2011-03-26 Thread Fernando C. Estrada
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:42:13PM -0600, Robinson Guevara wrote:
 Asi que e aquí mi problema No se como hacer una USB Bootable con Debian 6.

Gracias a que ya se cuenta con soporte para imágenes «isohybrid» en el
instalador de Debian [1] ya es tan simple como:

cat debian.iso  /dev/sdX

Saludos y buen día,

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Re: OT-FireFTP

2011-03-26 Thread Diego Sanchez
El 26 de marzo de 2011 09:31, Juan Pablo Alesandri
jpadeb...@gmail.comescribió:

 Hola, buen dia. Alguien probo el complemento para firefox fireftp? Que
 opinion tienen al respecto? Es seguro y recomendable?
 Muchas gracias

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Si, lo probe.
Es un cliente de FTP, que sirve para las tareas de un cliente de FTP normal.
Es seguro? Tan seguro como cualquier otro cliente de FTP. (la inseguridad de
un ftp, es inherente al servicio, no al cliente usado)
Recomendable? Si no queres andar usando un cliente de FTP como filezilla, y
si.. es recomendable porque tenes todo en uno.
Si no te importa tener varias ventanas abiertas, es indiferente

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Re: [OT] Tomand prestado el logo de Debian

2011-03-26 Thread Alejandro
2011/3/26 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com:
 2011/3/25 Alejandro ama...@gmail.com
 Bonito eh? hehe
 http://omsklug.ru/index.php?topic=2039
 Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en omsklug.ru.

ahora :)
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Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin

2011-03-26 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:18:52 +0100, BasaBuru escribió:

 On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 00:06:08 Camaleón escribió:
 El Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:39:25 +0100, BasaBuru escribió:
  
 ¿Y si creas un lanzador en el escritorio (vim.desktop) que ejecute
 sencillamente la orden terminator -e vim eliminando así cualquier
 interpretación errónea que pueda hacer del paso de parámetros adicional
 al tener que abrir el archivo? ¿Funciona o no hace nada?
 
 funciona

Hum...

 No sé, es raro, esperaría ver algún error que lo haga pararse. Pon la
 salida de terminator -d a ver qué dice.
 
 mas abajo

Okis (leyendo...) 

No, no veo nada raro, ningún error :-?

 Tengo mis dudas... más que nada por el mensaje de error que has puesto
 (terminator: error: Additional unexpected arguments found: ['/home/
 basati/default.gpfl']).
 
 Si, yo también parece que kde le pasa el fichero a abrir como un
 argumento a terminator que no es capaz de entender como que tiene que
 abrir el fichero.
  
 Si konsole funciona y xterm funciona cuando las configuras como
 terminales predeterminadas de KDE y KDE pasa los mismos parámetros para
 todas ellas ¿por qué sólo falla con terminator? :-?
 
 Porque es un bug de terminator??? no se me ocurre nada mas. Después de
 todas las pruebas.

(...)

Acabo de instalar terminator en testing (yo uso gnome) y la verdad es 
que tampoco funciona... ni poniendo gnome-terminal, ni xterm ni terminator 
como terminal predeterminada del sistema.

Si ejecuto terminator -d veo más o menos lo mismo que tú pero con un 
error al principio del archivo que quizá sólo sea cosmético o 
sencillamente porque no lo he configurado:

test@debian:~$ terminator -d
ConfigBase::load: Unable to open /home/test/.config/terminator/config 
([Errno 2] No existe el fichero o el directorio: '/home/test/.config/
terminator/config')

La única forma que parece funcionar es creando manualmente un lanzador 
de vim con este contenido:

#!/bin/sh
terminator -e /usr/bin/vim.tiny $1

Marcas el archivo como ejecutable y lo usas como plataforma de 
lanzamiento para abrir el archivo de texto (es decir, les dices que abra 
el txt con este comando /home/test/Escritorio/vim.

Esto funciona en Gnome... bajo KDE ya no te puedo decir :-?

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Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6

2011-03-26 Thread Mario Rivas Medrano
Mi estimado amigo Robinson


Me parece excelente que le quieras instalar Debian a esa machine. Una cosa
si te voy a advertir por experiencia y es que por lo general la gente con
poco o nulo conocimiento de los  SOs tiende a querer regresar a windows
poco después de iniciada la aventura en linux. Por si es el caso y para que
no pierdas tu sistema operativo instalado de fabrica con todo y
controladores mi sugerencia es crear un medio de respaldo, esas machines
todas (eso creo) traen una utileria para crear una USB con el sistema
completito por si en la instalación eliminas la partición de salvamento del
sistema. No vaya a ser la de malas y para que recuperes el sistema legal va
a ser todo un espectáculo.

Así que un saludo, mucha suerte y que la fuerza te acompañe en la
instalación y configuración.



2011/3/26 Fernando C. Estrada fcestr...@fcestrada.com

 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:42:13PM -0600, Robinson Guevara wrote:
  Asi que e aquí mi problema No se como hacer una USB Bootable con Debian
 6.

 Gracias a que ya se cuenta con soporte para imágenes «isohybrid» en el
 instalador de Debian [1] ya es tan simple como:

 cat debian.iso  /dev/sdX

 Saludos y buen día,

 [1]
 http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/Debian_USB_install_from_hybrid_iso/
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Re: (OT) Ventanas metidas en la izquierda de la pantalla

2011-03-26 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:35:28 +, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:

 El 25/03/11 12:12, Camaleón escribió:

 ¿Qué entorno gráfico usas (gnome, kde...)?

 Deberían mantenerse automáticamente el tamaño y la posición de la
 ventana tras el último cierre... por curiosidad, ¿qué sucede si la
 maximizas y pulsas el botón de cerrar [x], la vuelve a abrir mal
 colocada y sin maximizar? :-?

 Gracias por contestar,  Camaleón lo mande al privado. He realizado lo
 que indica Ivan,  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , pero no hace nada,
 sigue todo igual.
 Camaleón, he realizado lo que me indicas, con la consola, pero al
 abrirse sigue igual queda a la izquierda, y no se abre maximizada sino
 pequeña.

Está raro... ¿has probado a crear un nuevo usuario para ver si le pasa lo 
mismo? :-?

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Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin

2011-03-26 Thread Carlos Zuniga
2011/3/26 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org:
 On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 08:23:23 Carlos Zuniga escribió:
 2011/3/25 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org:

 Acabo de instalarlo y en el man indica que uses -x si quieres usar
 argumentos en tu comando en lugar de -e (si no los toma como
 argumentos del propio terminator).

 Primero mea culpa, no leer la docu. Pero estaba tan convencido de que era un
 problema de kde que no miraba otra cosa

 Ahora esto sigue sin resolver el problema. Si en aplicaciones preferidas
 selecciono terminator -x  y selecciono un fichero para abrir con vim solo se
 abre el terminal sin abrir el fichero.

 en .xsession-errors ni respira

 Si le pongo terminator -x vim abre y  cierra la terminal.

 Estoy práctimente convencido de que la opción de seleccionar terminator en
 aplicaciones preferidas no es viable.


Je, bueno me funcionó en Gnome y pensé que te funcionaría.

El terminator tiene en sus preferencias una opción para ver que hacer
cuando se termina el comando que está utilizando (cerrar la ventana o
iniciar un shell). Podrías probar eso.

Sino en ultima instancia, creo que el lanzador que indica Camaleón
sería la mejor opción.

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Re: [OT] Tomand prestado el logo de Debian

2011-03-26 Thread Carlos Zuniga
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Alejandro ama...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/3/26 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com:
 2011/3/25 Alejandro ama...@gmail.com
 Bonito eh? hehe
 http://omsklug.ru/index.php?topic=2039
 Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en omsklug.ru.

 ahora :)
 http://imgur.com/WfzKe

Hay un hilo interesante en debian-legal del año pasado donde hablan
del uso del logo por otra empresa [0].
Al parecer es muy fácil hacer el logo usando una de las brochas
incluidas en Adobe Ilustrator [1].

Al final concluyeron que como el logo no es marca registrada de Debian
(solo el nombre lo es) y ya que es fácil que la persona lo haya
diseñado desde cero, no había falta.

Saludos.

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SOLVED Re: no puedo abrir ficheros con vim desde dolphin

2011-03-26 Thread BasaBuru
On Sábado 26 Marzo 2011 17:43:12 Carlos Zuniga escribió:
 
 El terminator tiene en sus preferencias una opción para ver que hacer
 cuando se termina el comando que está utilizando (cerrar la ventana o
 iniciar un shell). Podrías probar eso.

No es eso, pero la pista cojonuda

En profiles - command tiene una opción Run command as a login shell

Y ya esta.. rula perfectamente.

Muchas gracias a todos por vuestro tiempo y ayuda.

Un abrazo

BasaBuru


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Dabon saveejo daavanu karti jau driz!...

2011-03-26 Thread Hlusevics Valerijs
Virtualaa virtuve ienak, saprotams, ari tavaas majaas (dzivokli) -

sakomplektee burgerus sev pieejamajaa datoraa , bet apeed tos iistaa bistro!
 
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Nopelni savu daavanu karti jau pavisam driz!...

2011-03-26 Thread Cehlova Tamara
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Re: Apache + Rotatelogs

2011-03-26 Thread Thiago Paulino
Acredito que seha isao mesmo

Em 25/03/2011 17:51, Pietro Arancibia p...@email.com escreveu:
 O horario do servidor está corretamente configurado?
 parece que seu servidor esta usando o horario UTC, em vez do -3h...
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MPD não inicia corretamente após boot

2011-03-26 Thread Bruno Schmidt Marques

Bom dia,

Estou utilizando o Debian Squeeze e, após mudar para arquitetura 64 
bits, estou tendo problemas com o MPD: 80% das vezes que inicio o 
computador, os usuários não conseguem se conectar ao daemon. Quando isso 
ocorre, eu faço login como root e reinicio o mpd (/etc/init.d/mpd 
restart) e tudo funciona perfeitamente.


O arquivo de configuração do serviço foi copiado da instalação antiga 
(32 bits), e parece não apresentar problemas. Ele pode ser baixado aqui*.


O mais chato é que o problema é intermitente, fica difícil descobrir a 
causa. Alguém está passando/passou por algo semelhante e tem alguma 
sugestão? Obrigado.


* http://pastebin.com/m9nPCCTt


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Re: MPD não inicia corretamente após boot

2011-03-26 Thread Rodolfo
Antes de voce reiniciar o MPD, use esse comando (quando der o erro):

dmesg | grep MPD

e veja se está havendo alguma falha, salve um log dessa informação e poste
aqui...


depois reinicie o MPD e use o dmesg | grep MPD novamente e veja a
informação, poste aqui tb se for necessário

Assim poderemos examinar se o processo de boot tem algo a ver com esse erro.

Já de antemão queria saber se os usuário acessam isso em rede, porque tb
pode ser uma falha ou lentidão no DHCP.


Até +

Em 26 de março de 2011 13:36, Bruno Schmidt Marques 
cont...@brunomarques.com.br escreveu:

 Bom dia,

 Estou utilizando o Debian Squeeze e, após mudar para arquitetura 64 bits,
 estou tendo problemas com o MPD: 80% das vezes que inicio o computador, os
 usuários não conseguem se conectar ao daemon. Quando isso ocorre, eu faço
 login como root e reinicio o mpd (/etc/init.d/mpd restart) e tudo funciona
 perfeitamente.

 O arquivo de configuração do serviço foi copiado da instalação antiga (32
 bits), e parece não apresentar problemas. Ele pode ser baixado aqui*.

 O mais chato é que o problema é intermitente, fica difícil descobrir a
 causa. Alguém está passando/passou por algo semelhante e tem alguma
 sugestão? Obrigado.

 * http://pastebin.com/m9nPCCTt


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Re: MPD não inicia corretamente após boot

2011-03-26 Thread Bruno Schmidt Marques
Rodolfo, os usuários acessam isso localmente. Vou tentar reproduzir o 
erro e seguirei os passos por você descritos. Obrigado;


On 03/26/2011 02:59 PM, Rodolfo wrote:

Antes de voce reiniciar o MPD, use esse comando (quando der o erro):
dmesg | grep MPD
e veja se está havendo alguma falha, salve um log dessa informação e 
poste aqui...
depois reinicie o MPD e use o dmesg | grep MPD novamente e veja a 
informação, poste aqui tb se for necessário
Assim poderemos examinar se o processo de boot tem algo a ver com esse 
erro.
Já de antemão queria saber se os usuário acessam isso em rede, porque 
tb pode ser uma falha ou lentidão no DHCP.

Até +

Em 26 de março de 2011 13:36, Bruno Schmidt Marques 
cont...@brunomarques.com.br mailto:cont...@brunomarques.com.br 
escreveu:


Bom dia,

Estou utilizando o Debian Squeeze e, após mudar para arquitetura
64 bits, estou tendo problemas com o MPD: 80% das vezes que inicio
o computador, os usuários não conseguem se conectar ao daemon.
Quando isso ocorre, eu faço login como root e reinicio o mpd
(/etc/init.d/mpd restart) e tudo funciona perfeitamente.

O arquivo de configuração do serviço foi copiado da instalação
antiga (32 bits), e parece não apresentar problemas. Ele pode ser
baixado aqui*.

O mais chato é que o problema é intermitente, fica difícil
descobrir a causa. Alguém está passando/passou por algo semelhante
e tem alguma sugestão? Obrigado.

* http://pastebin.com/m9nPCCTt


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Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho

2011-03-26 Thread Cleber Ianes

Saudações a todos.
Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64.
Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do webmin.
Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no momento que 
aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e mouse usb, os mesmo 
funcionam normalmente.

Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser?


ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema continua.
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Ieguusti savu davanu karti!...

2011-03-26 Thread Berzina Silvija
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Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho

2011-03-26 Thread Marcos Carraro
Camada de hardware?

Cabos?
Portas?
BIOS?
Atualização muito difícil :/

que teclado é ?
so no X tem esse problema ou em modo texto também ocorre isto?
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Em 26 de março de 2011 16:32, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

 Saudações a todos.
 Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64.
 Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do webmin.
 Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no momento que
 aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e mouse usb, os mesmo
 funcionam normalmente.
 Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser?


 ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema continua.
 Obrigado.

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Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho

2011-03-26 Thread Cleber Ianes


  
  
Marcos.
O teclado funciona perfeitamente até o momento que entra o modo
gráfico do login. Uso ele para acessar o setup da máquina, para
escolher a opção do Grub, mas quando aparece o login nem o teclado
nem o mouse funcionam mais. O teclado não responde nem o NumLock.
O teclado é um bem simples da marca satellite.
Fou usando ele que eu instalei o SO nesse servidor, já testei ele em
outra máquina e está funcionando perfeitamente. Já revisei todas as
configurações do setup da bio.
Faço a administração do servidor pelo programa webmin (que aliás, é
"uma mão na roda") e desativei alguns programas na inicialização,
mas depois que ocorreu o problema eu já reativei todos os serviços
que aparecem no menu e o problema continua. 

Ahhh, uso o webmin na própria máquina e não via rede, só para não
restarem dúvidas!!!
Quando ocorre a parelização eu plugo um teclado e um mouse usb e
eles funcionam normalmente.

Ainda não consegui achar onde se configura o dispositivo do mouse no
gdm3 (que aliás, achei um monte de reclamações na net).



Em 26-03-2011 20:52, Marcos Carraro escreveu:
Camada de hardware?
  

  
Cabos?
  Portas?
  
BIOS?
  Atualização muito difícil :/
  

  que teclado é ?
  so no X tem esse problema ou em modo texto também
  ocorre isto?
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Em 26 de março de 2011 16:32, Cleber
  Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
  escreveu:
  
Saudações a todos.
Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64.
Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do
webmin.
Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no
momento que aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e
mouse usb, os mesmo funcionam normalmente.
Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser?


ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema
continua.
Obrigado.

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Panjem tavu daavanu karti jau pavisam driz!...

2011-03-26 Thread ArneArnite Arija
Virtualais pavaars ienak, skaidra lieta, ari tavaas majaas -

pagatavo burgerus sev pieejamajaa datoraa , bet aped vinus iistaa restoranaa!
 
http://www.octor4noline.au.pn/oapry.html - ok, spied tur un uzzini visu par 
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Re: ATI/AMD graphics cards

2011-03-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 25 mar 11, 17:20:58, Andrew Wood wrote:
 
 On 20 Mar 2011, at 14:09, Liam O'Toole wrote:
 
  If you grep /var/log/syslog for 'firmware' you should see what firmware
  is requested and what is missing, if any. 
 
 Absolutely nothing. 

Do you mean no output or no problems? You should see at least the 
messages stating the firmware has been loaded. Hint pass -i to grep ;)

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Re: What happened to debian - does stable keep having any meaning?

2011-03-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 25 mar 11, 09:39:13, Tom H wrote:
 
  This is not right, because you can choose LILO.
 
 Not in normal install mode.

It's always possible during a normal installation to switch to 
expert mode. Just use the Back button ;)

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Re: What happened to debian - does stable keep having any meaning?

2011-03-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 25 mar 11, 14:52:53, Geronimo wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Tom H wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Geronimo geronimo...@arcor.de wrote:
   LOL - beside that, I don't have an mta configured to access internet and
   don't like to do so. So I'll communicate using email (kmail) or
   iceweasel - no more.
  
  You don't need an mta.
 
 I already filed that bugreport using email only.

JFYI and for the archives: when you run 'reportbug --configure' don't 
select an MTA. Reportbug will submit the bug directly then.

 The template from http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting is missing the entry 
 Severity, so my bugreport is not as desired.
 May be a list admin can change that?

Anyone can do it, just send an e-mail to cont...@bugs.debian.org with 
this content (indented for readability):

severity bugnumber wishlist
thanks

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Re: [SOLVED] mpd blocks all other sound output EBUSY

2011-03-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 22 mar 11, 17:47:27, Brian Ryans wrote:
 I was about to write a long email, complete with some logs and config
 files, and postpone it to remind me to STFW for more info on an mpd
 issue I was having.
 
 While bundling everything up, I decided to try, on a lark, commenting
 out someting marked 'optional' in mpd.conf, under the assumption that
 using said option would force it straight to hardware as opposed to
 going through dmix.
 
 This was caused, in my case, by blindly uncommenting the device entry
 in the audio_output block of mpd.conf; it'd look something like this:
 
 audio_output {
# snip
device  hw:0,0 # optional
# snip
 }

As far as I understand, dmix operates at 48kHz only (due to some old 
buggy chipsets?). Since most audio content is 44,1 kHz, mpd will now 
resample everything to 48kHz using libsamplerate, which should give 
better quality than the alsa resampler. This, however will cost you some 
CPU cycles. Depending on your hardware it may matter or not...

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Re: apt-get trying to remove manually installed packages

2011-03-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 24 mar 11, 12:52:03, James Robertson wrote:
 I am running Sid.
 
 while doing a dist-upgrade apt-get wants to remove a number of packages that
 are manually installed.
 
 One example is rxvt-unicode which I manually installed.  I have run apt-get
 unmarkauto rxvt-unicode to ensure it's set to manual but it keeps wanting
 to remove it during dist-upgrade.
 
 How can I prevent apt from removing my manually installed packages?

Please post the full output of 'apt-get dist-upgrade' here, otherwise we 
can only guess.

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Re: boot loader

2011-03-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 24 mar 11, 12:30:39, shawn wilson wrote:
 not sure of the topicality of this here but...
 
 i've got a computer with ntldr messing up. since i don't have a windows xp
 disk, i have no way of fixing this (besides torrent). so, i was hoping to
 find some sort of quick install that just shoved grup on the system and made
 a minimal partition for /boot (and whatever else is required for grub).

You can fix it with ms-sys[1] from System Rescue CD[2]

[1] http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://www.sysresccd.org/

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Re: What happened to debian - does stable keep having any meaning?

2011-03-26 Thread Geronimo
Hello,

Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Vi, 25 mar 11, 14:52:53, Geronimo wrote:
  Tom H wrote:
   On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Geronimo geronimo...@arcor.de wrote:
LOL - beside that, I don't have an mta configured to access internet
and don't like to do so. So I'll communicate using email (kmail) or
iceweasel - no more.
   
   You don't need an mta.
  
  I already filed that bugreport using email only.
 
 JFYI and for the archives: when you run 'reportbug --configure' don't
 select an MTA. Reportbug will submit the bug directly then.

Hm - I have to confess, that my objection is not related to MTA, but to 
hidden/obscure transmission. Yes, I am paranoid ;)

email interface is fine for me and I'll learn to use the right format.
Thanks for your assistance!
 
  The template from http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting is missing the
  entry Severity, so my bugreport is not as desired.
  May be a list admin can change that?
 
 Anyone can do it, just send an e-mail to cont...@bugs.debian.org with
 this content (indented for readability):
 
 severity bugnumber wishlist
 thanks

Great. Thanks for the pointer.
This way I noticed, that my bugreport has already been moved to different 
package.

You're so fast :)


kind regards

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recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Geronimo
Hello,

recently I wiped out all but one partition tables by stupidness and hasty 
reading ...

Thanks to testdisk, most of the damage is already fixed.

There are 2 drives, that testdisk could not find the partion informations for.
Accidently I discovered /var/log/installer/partman, which looks like being 
from the time before my dumb Chuck-Norris-Roundhouse-Kick  ;)

That logfile looks like having reasonable partition informations of all drives.

Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with 
informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data ...


kind regards

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Debugger in Monodevelop 2.2.1 (squeeze)

2011-03-26 Thread Felix Natter
hi,

I am using Monodevelop 2.2.1 with mono 2.6.7 on Debian lenny (but using
squeeze packages via lenny-backports). I can set breakpoints and the
active configuration is Debug, but when I run it via the Debug (F5)
Button, it doesn't halt on breakpoints.  What am I missing?

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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/03/11 13:13, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 03/25/2011 06:19 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 26/03/11 08:40, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 03/24/2011 08:41 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 25/03/11 03:10, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 03/24/2011 10:21 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
 On 24/03/11 14:52, Ron Johnson wrote:

 Because of the radical changes in v4.0, I *strongly* urge that you
 install FF 4.0 to /usr/local/bin or ~/bin, since you or your wife
 might
 (as I do) dislike the way that v4 works.

 I installed Firefox4 to ~/.firefox and Iceweasel4 to ~/.iceweasel4

correction: I installed Firefox4 *profiles* to ~/.firefox and Iceweasel4
to ~/.iceweasel4 (iceweasel3.x lives in ~/.mozilla)


 
 How did you install IW4 into your $HOME? 

ac_add_options --with-user-appdir
puts profile where ever you want it, you need to make a couple of other
changes to stop overwriting system default browser and messing up menu
entries.

 I don't think that dpkg has
 the ability to redirect output.

It does, and it's probably a better (proper) way of doing things
eg. chroot followed by dpkg --instdir (from memory).

Alternatively extract, hack, and repackage the .deb.
or just build statically linked

Properly applied dpkg --divert (?) will probably keep things from breaking

 
snipped

 
 Most probably.  A similar addon (Old Location Bar) makes FF3.x tolerable.

Do you mean it puts location bar above tabs?

 
 My main motivation for moving to 4 was freedom from ffflash, and the
 ability to build lighter netbooks.

 
 Eh?  YouTube isn't the be-all and end-all of video...

I don't think all YouTube videos are HTML5 yet, but it's the most common
reason users cite for needing ffflash. And ffflash is a pain to keep
updated. I can force apt-get on them, and easy as Iceweasel makes things
- I can't force (l)users to update extensions/plugins.

Yeah Gnash works, kind of... kudos to the guy's work too (another
Aussie!), but I still dislike ffflash - I can't think of any
justification for it.

Disclaimer: I use YouTube, saves bandwidth on sites, makes for another
backlink - but mostly it keeps clients happy (bless their pointy little
heads)

 
snipped

 
 The Workplace Shell was pretty amazing.  I loved Warp 3 on my 486DX33.
 

It's still good. I had some clients who own a string of service stations
- they still run OS/2 - for POS, training, and inventory. It just works,
and they sure are getting their money's worth for hardware and software
(though Pegasus routed through NZ is just strange).

Maybe one day IBM will open-source it (OS/2)


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Re: tomboy, and mono dependencies in gnome?

2011-03-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

I did not check exact situation ...

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:35:15PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
 Why is tomboy in the default basic desktop when installed from the
 netinstall CD?

I assume so since gnome Depends on tomboy (= 1.2) | gnote.
See it by:
$ apt-cache show gnome|grep tomboy

 And, more to the point, when I run synaptic and check on uninstalling
 libmono-cor or whatever, it threatens to uninstall gnome. (Not really
 a big deal, I'm comfortable using XFCE.)

Time to learn aptitude :-)

Select all packages of gnome non-automatically while chosing gnote and
drop tomboy.

I do not know why gnote was the first choice ...


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Re: aptitude stuck resolving dependencies...

2011-03-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:04:47AM -0700, Joe Riel wrote:
 This morning I ran
 
 $ sudo aptitude update
 $ aptitude --simulate safe-upgrade 
 Resolving dependencies...
 open: 16431; closed: 11272; defer: 105; conflict: 54
 
 At this point it kept churning; the number of open dependencies kept
 increasing.  Because of this I haven't run a real upgrade.  
 How do I determine what is happening and whether a real upgrade
 would run normally?

It should not ... but things happen.  That is why we recommend using
apt-get for such upgrade situation.  This was discussed and decioded for
release note.  Please read Release note and follow.  We have reason to
recommend apt-get in such situation unfortunately.
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-full

See note under this section too.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal

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Re: An interesting experiment

2011-03-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 03:25:02PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote:
 I just found a box in my basement that I haven't touched in many years. I
 checked sources.list, and it was built when woody was stable and sarge was
 testing. The box was running sid. So I thought it would be an interesting
 experiment to see what is involved to get it to a modern sid, or if it is
 even possible. The box is a PII/667. 192mb ram, 6gb drive.
 
 So far, I have run into the following problems:
 
 1. I had to take debian non-free out of the sources.list (I had forgotten
 all about that).
 2. It is having a problem installing ncurses-base. (package uses Breaks, no
 supported in this dpkg)

You know upgrade skipping release is not supported.  You are hitting it
:-)
 
 I know it will probably break at some point, but I doubt I will ever have
 need to reuse this box, and the data is way stale after so many years...I
 thought it would be an interesting diversion.

If you are just doing this for fun, cut down system with dpkg -P ...
etc to minimum except apt.  Then hope system upgrades OK.

Alternatively, you may install chroot and debootstrap to install new
system.  That takes a bit of skill to do.

Osamu


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Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot

2011-03-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:11 -0400 (EDT), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 
 I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile 
 w/o errors.
 
 They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2 
 --initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid.
 
 I have looked at the initrd files with cpio and I see nothing wrong: the 
 'init' file is there as it should be, etc. But what to look for?
 
 I use legacy-grub and that just sits there with 'boot' as the last 
 command, forever.
 
 Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to try next?
 
 I have used make-kpkg many times, but not in the last 5 months, and this 
 has never happened to me.

The first thing I would try is to configure a custom kernel exactly
like a stock Debian kernel.  Assuming a stock Debian kernel boots
successfully, and assuming that you are using the Debian kernel source
which corresponds to the stock Debian kernel, that will tell you if
there's something wrong with your kernel configuration or if there's
something wrong with the logistics of your compilation and installation.

If I were to hazzard a guess, I would guess that you don't have a
feature enabled that your hardware needs.  But that's just a guess.

The following resource may be helpful to you:

   http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm

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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo:
 Hello,
 
 recently I wiped out all but one partition tables by stupidness and hasty
 reading ...
 
 Thanks to testdisk, most of the damage is already fixed.
 
 There are 2 drives, that testdisk could not find the partion informations
 for. Accidently I discovered /var/log/installer/partman, which looks
 like being from the time before my dumb Chuck-Norris-Roundhouse-Kick  ;)
 
 That logfile looks like having reasonable partition informations of all
 drives.
 
 Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with
 informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data
 ...
 
 
 kind regards
 
 Gero
Hi Gero, 

maybe you can fix it, when you use fdisk, delete all partitions and create 
exactly the same partitions withe the exactly size as before. But do NOT 
formate!!! 

This worked for me, when I accidently loosing my partitions by using a mirror 
tool from windows.

I lost my ext3 partitions that day.


Maybe another option, to rescue data might be using the tool dd,but I am not 
experienced with it.

Testdisk might also be able to rescue the partitions. Another good tools are 
on SuperRescueCD or UltimatebootCD for Windows. Google for it.

Good luck

Hans


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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:40:29 -0400 (EDT), Jackie Wang wrote:
 
 My laptop is HP 6515b, AMD Turion 64x2 CPU, 2G memory with dual system,
 Debian and windows XP. First time I installed Debian Lenny 5.0.4 amd64
 on my laptop, DE is Gnome. Then upgrade to 5.0.6, then 6.0. Until 6.0 it
 works very well. But recently after i updated to 6.0.1 the system
 becomes very slow. I notice the process Xorg consume many CPU usage.
 even i open a terminal window, it pop up very slow.today i fresh
 installed my laptop,using netinst method
 (debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso).but after installed the system still
 very slow, Xorg still consume many CPU. but windows XP runs normal, so i
 think 6.0.1 has some problem. does anybody encountered this situation?
 
 BTW,can i just install debian 6.0 not 6.0.1? i have 5.0.4 DVD and 6.0.1
 netinst CD.

Have you checked for missing firmware?  Issue

   dmesg|less

and search for the character string firmware.  For example

   g
   /firmware
   n

The g takes you to the top, /firmware searches for the string firmware,
and n repeats the last search.  Use n as often as necessary.  Look for
evidence that the kernel tried to load firmware but was unsuccessful.
Use q to exit, of course.

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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-26 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 Mar 2011 at 19:10:47 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:

 'Edit, Preferences, General' doesn't offer you a startup option Show
 my windows and tabs from last time?  Mine does.

It does and I've now set it to that. Thanks.


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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-26 Thread Brian
On Sat 26 Mar 2011 at 10:34:36 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:

 Both Iceweasel4 and Firefox4, on both Lenny and Squeeze do for me. I run
 KDE (3x and 4x respectively).

It was my misunderstanding of the Startup options which perplexed me a
little. Everything is sorted now. Thanks.


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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Geronimo
Hello,

thank your for your assistance.

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo:
  Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables
  with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access
  to data ...
  
 maybe you can fix it, when you use fdisk,

Not sure about fdisk. Does fdisk write partition table entry only?

... or does it have side effects on existing data - like wiping out superblock 
of existing fs, so you have to format the partition?
I don't want to increase the damage, therefore I ask before doing anything.


kind regards

Gero


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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote:
 
 recently I wiped out all but one partition tables by stupidness and hasty 
 reading ...
 
 Thanks to testdisk, most of the damage is already fixed.
 
 There are 2 drives, that testdisk could not find the partion informations for.
 Accidently I discovered /var/log/installer/partman, which looks like being 
 from the time before my dumb Chuck-Norris-Roundhouse-Kick  ;)
 
 That logfile looks like having reasonable partition informations of all 
 drives.
 
 Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables with 
 informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access to data 
 ...

I looked at my /var/log/installer/partman file, and it does indeed look as
though the exact sector information for the partitions is there.  I would 
suggest
using the parted command from the package of the same name.  It can allocate
partitions and report on them at the sector level.  For example,

   parted /dev/sda unit s print free
   parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart ...

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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:59:20 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote:
 
 Not sure about fdisk. Does fdisk write partition table entry only?
 
 ... or does it have side effects on existing data - like wiping out 
 superblock 
 of existing fs, so you have to format the partition?
 I don't want to increase the damage, therefore I ask before doing anything.

That's an excellent point, Geronimo.  Sometimes partitioning programs do
stuff like that.  I know the old FDISK command from MS-DOS used to write out
a few blocks of binary zeros to each partition it allocated to avoid
left-over data from causing problems.  In the case of Linux fdisk, parted,
etc. I don't know the answer to that question.  One thing you can try is
to allocate a small partition in an area that you know was free space,
format it, put some data in it, delete the partition, then reallocate it
exactly where it was before, and see if you can still read the data.  Then
delete the partition again.

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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 26. 03. 2011 14:24:42 je Jackie napisal(a):
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr  
wrote:


 Dne, 25. 03. 2011 03:40:29 je Jackie Wang napisal(a):

  Hi all,

 My laptop is HP 6515b, AMD Turion 64x2 CPU, 2G memory with dual  
system,
 Debian and windows XP. First time I installed Debian Lenny 5.0.4  
amd64
 on my laptop, DE is Gnome. Then upgrade to 5.0.6, then 6.0. Until  
6.0 it

 works very well. But recently after i updated to 6.0.1 the system
 becomes very slow. I notice the process Xorg consume many CPU  
usage.

 even i open a terminal window, it pop up very slow.today i fresh
 installed my laptop,using netinst method
 (debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso).but after installed the system  
still
 very slow, Xorg still consume many CPU. but windows XP runs  
normal, so i
 think 6.0.1 has some problem. does anybody encountered this  
situation?



 What's your video card? ATI, I presume? Carefully go through your
 Xorg.0.log and see whether there are any (EE) messages. They

the video card is intergrated ATI Radeon X1250, and X0rg.0.log see 2  
(EE):

 grep '^(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(EE) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics
hardware.
(EE) PreInit failed for input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad


That's hardly suspect: those two lines appear in my Xorg.0.log too. I  
have the 6715b, with ATI Radeon X1200, and while fglrx couldn't be made  
to work at all, the radeon driver works a breeze.


Hmm... If I were you, I wouldn't bother troubleshoting the issue at  
all; I'd check if the slowdowns appear in another user account too  
(just to rule out potential user misconfigutration), and then install  
Squeeze on a spare partition from scratch, just to rule out upgrade  
glitches. It may well be that the issue won't appear in a fresh  
installation.


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Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot

2011-03-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

25/03/2011 21:19, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile
w/o errors.

They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2
--initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid.

I have looked at the initrd files with cpio and I see nothing wrong: the
'init' file is there as it should be, etc. But what to look for?

I use legacy-grub and that just sits there with 'boot' as the last
command, forever.

Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to try next?

I have used make-kpkg many times, but not in the last 5 months, and this
has never happened to me.

Hugo




Hi, I don't think there is a general problem in kernel-package
(12.036+nmu1 here), I compiled three kernels (2.6.37* and 2.6.38*) this
week and one more is backing right now without issue.

Are the required hooks scripts for your setup in place and valid (see
/usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/) ? Any module missing from
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules ?


I did not change the scripts in /etc/kernel. Did you? It has postinst.d
 postrm.d  preinst.d  prerm.d for directories. The latter 2 are empty
and the former 2 have initramfs-tools  pm-utils  zz-update-grub as
scripts and initramfs-tools  zz-update-grub as scripts.


I have not added any module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules.



Maybe you could try with make deb-pkg target and see if it boots this way.




Never used that before. But I ran make deb-pkg in the kernel tree and 
that created a .deb. Installed that and booted that kernel and it 
behaved exactly the same way: last grub command is 'boot' and it just 
sits there.


Hugo


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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-26 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Ron Johnson wrote:
I *found* it, but it had moved for no reason.  Like a wife that 
rearranges the furniture for no reason except I was bored.


Gotta agree with that one!  The same problems arose with MS Office 
updates, the earlier versions were easy to work with, the newer 
updated versions are completely different -- change for change sake? 
Don't fix what is NOT broken.  :(


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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread Jackie
I've Installed from scratch using 6.0.1 netinst CD, but slowdown too.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:

 Dne, 26. 03. 2011 14:24:42 je Jackie napisal(a):

  On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr
 wrote:

  Dne, 25. 03. 2011 03:40:29 je Jackie Wang napisal(a):
 
   Hi all,
 
  My laptop is HP 6515b, AMD Turion 64x2 CPU, 2G memory with dual system,
  Debian and windows XP. First time I installed Debian Lenny 5.0.4 amd64
  on my laptop, DE is Gnome. Then upgrade to 5.0.6, then 6.0. Until 6.0
 it
  works very well. But recently after i updated to 6.0.1 the system
  becomes very slow. I notice the process Xorg consume many CPU usage.
  even i open a terminal window, it pop up very slow.today i fresh
  installed my laptop,using netinst method
  (debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso).but after installed the system still
  very slow, Xorg still consume many CPU. but windows XP runs normal, so
 i
  think 6.0.1 has some problem. does anybody encountered this situation?
 
 
  What's your video card? ATI, I presume? Carefully go through your
  Xorg.0.log and see whether there are any (EE) messages. They

 the video card is intergrated ATI Radeon X1250, and X0rg.0.log see 2 (EE):
  grep '^(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 (EE) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics
 hardware.
 (EE) PreInit failed for input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad


 That's hardly suspect: those two lines appear in my Xorg.0.log too. I have
 the 6715b, with ATI Radeon X1200, and while fglrx couldn't be made to work
 at all, the radeon driver works a breeze.

 Hmm... If I were you, I wouldn't bother troubleshoting the issue at all;
 I'd check if the slowdowns appear in another user account too (just to rule
 out potential user misconfigutration), and then install Squeeze on a spare
 partition from scratch, just to rule out upgrade glitches. It may well be
 that the issue won't appear in a fresh installation.


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Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot

2011-03-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Stephen Powell wrote:

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:11 -0400 (EDT), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile 
w/o errors.


They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2 
--initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid.


I have looked at the initrd files with cpio and I see nothing wrong: the 
'init' file is there as it should be, etc. But what to look for?


I use legacy-grub and that just sits there with 'boot' as the last 
command, forever.


Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to try next?

I have used make-kpkg many times, but not in the last 5 months, and this 
has never happened to me.


The first thing I would try is to configure a custom kernel exactly
like a stock Debian kernel.  Assuming a stock Debian kernel boots
successfully, and assuming that you are using the Debian kernel source
which corresponds to the stock Debian kernel, that will tell you if
there's something wrong with your kernel configuration or if there's
something wrong with the logistics of your compilation and installation.


That's the first thing I did: stock Debian kernel. And it does not boot.



If I were to hazzard a guess, I would guess that you don't have a
feature enabled that your hardware needs.  But that's just a guess.


But the Debian kernel image boots, so the compiled stock kernel ought to 
also. My guess is that I have to change the make-kpkg scripts somehow. 
Since the last time I ran make-kpkg successfully I have changed 
motherboards.




The following resource may be helpful to you:

   http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm




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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-26 Thread Tony van der Hoff

On 26/03/11 14:37, Andrew McGlashan wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

I *found* it, but it had moved for no reason. Like a wife that
rearranges the furniture for no reason except I was bored.


Gotta agree with that one! The same problems arose with MS Office
updates, the earlier versions were easy to work with, the newer
updated versions are completely different -- change for change sake?
Don't fix what is NOT broken. :(


For some values of broken.

I have no problem with the UI changing if the end result is better. My 
definition of *better*, of course. The new tab button is IMHO an 
improvement.


Yes, I had to spend some time fiddling around with the UI options to 
make it look like I wanted, (the home button; the reload button) but 
there it is. Personally I rather like FF4.


It is without any doubt faster, which alleviates one major complaint 
from chrome users against FF. That, in itself, justifies it's existence.


But, hey, YMMV ...

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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:25:08 -0400 (EDT), Jackie Wang wrote:
 
 See below:
 Qin:~# dmesg|grep -i firmware
 [9.268193] platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: requesting radeon/RS690_cp.bin
 [9.522472] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID:FW13 
 ]
 [   22.020133] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode13.fw
 [   22.033362] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43-open/ucode13.fw
 [   22.048527] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode13.fw not found
 [   22.055643] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode13.fw not found
 [   22.063020] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to
 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download 
 the correct
 firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all
 instructions on this website.
 [   22.824121] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode13.fw
 [   22.834487] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43-open/ucode13.fw
 [   22.846726] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode13.fw not found
 [   22.853638] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode13.fw not found
 [   22.860374] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to
 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download
 the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all
 instructions on this website.
 
 but RS690_cp.bin i've already installed :
 ...
 b43 is wireless adapter.

(1) Please reply to the list, not to me
(2) Please do not top-post

Well, it's true that the missing firmware is not for your video
hardware.  But it could still be the cause of a process consuming
excessive CPU cycles.  Unfortunately, there does not appear to be
a Debian package that contains this firmware.  I would follow the
instructions in the error messages and obtain the firmware if I were
you.  It couldn't hurt, and it might help.  This is one of the major
differences between Lenny and Squeeze: separately-loaded firmware.

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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo:
 Hello,
 
 thank your for your assistance.
 
 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo:
   Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables
   with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain
   access to data ...
  
  maybe you can fix it, when you use fdisk,
 
 Not sure about fdisk. Does fdisk write partition table entry only?
 
 ... or does it have side effects on existing data - like wiping out
 superblock of existing fs, so you have to format the partition?
 I don't want to increase the damage, therefore I ask before doing anything.
 
 
 kind regards
 
 Gero
I do not know. I suppose, it is just writining a new partition table without 
changing data and formation. So do NOT formate under any circumstances.

As I wrote, I got success without loosing any data by jusdt rewriting a new 
partition table. If this is working in your case, I cannot grant. But maybe 
other people got some better ideas.

Have fun!

Greetz

Hans


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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 26. 03. 2011 15:45:49 je Jackie napisal(a):

I've Installed from scratch using 6.0.1 netinst CD, but slowdown too.



That strikes me as odd indeed. My machine (6715b) should be virtually  
identical to yours, and it supports my fully updated Squeeze without a  
glitch (stock GNOME install from the stock AMD64 Debian 6.0.0. DVD),  
regularly updated. Thus far, the only problem I had was from a failed  
fglrx installation that left a rogue fglrx-driver.conf in  
/etc/modprobe.d, blacklisting the radeon and preventing it from  
loading. Since I removed the file, everything works a breeze again.  
That was purely a PEBKAC syndrome though, no fault of Debian's.


You do have radeon-kms.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, and it has a line

options radeon modeset=1

right? And you do have no Xorg.conf whatsoever in /etc/X11, right?

The only difference I can spot is that:

1) you have a *slightly* different video card, and that
2) you installed from a netinst CD (a 386 perhaps?) as opposed to a  
full AMD64 DVD.
3) potentially a different selection of packages (another desktop  
environment? no laptop task installed?)


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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 26. 03. 2011 15:22:53 je Klistvud napisal(a):

Oh yes: and you definitely *need* to install linux-firmware-nonfree!  
(At least I think that's what the package called) It's where your  
radeon 690 firmware is.


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New debian-installation - question

2011-03-26 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi list,

just some simple questions: I am going to create a small installations cd from 
an already installed system (with my own settings). As I want it small and 
secure, I do not want any logfiles on this cd. I am using bootcdwrite. So my 
questions:

1.Can I use an empty /var/log/ or is it necessary, that some logfiles already 
exist?

2. Same question to /var/run, /var/cache and /var/spool/: Can they be empty at 
first boot?

3. Last question (maybe stupid): Can /var be empty at all or are there any 
directories, which MUST exist at very first boot?

I am looking forward to your answers.

Best regards

Hans

 


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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Geronimo
Hello,

thank you all for your attention and assistance.

Stephen Powell wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote:
  That logfile looks like having reasonable partition informations of all
  drives.
  
  Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables
  with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access
  to data ...
 
 I looked at my /var/log/installer/partman file, and it does indeed look as
 though the exact sector information for the partitions is there. 

I'm a bit confused.

I tried to read partition info from hex-dump of first block and compare that 
with the values from /var/log/installer/partman ...

According to partition info from wiki the biggest number of chs is 0x3FF, 
which is 1023 decimal - and partman output contains entries like:
(91201,0,0) (91201,80,62)

So is there another way to interpret entries from partition table?


kind regards

Gero


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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread Pablo Sánchez

The only way to make squeeze work happy, was set  radeon modeset=0
on  /etc/modprobe.d, thanks to Camleon.

Regards.

Pablo

Dne, 26. 03. 2011 15:45:49 je Jackie napisal(a):

I've Installed from scratch using 6.0.1 netinst CD, but slowdown too.



That strikes me as odd indeed. My machine (6715b) should be virtually identical to yours, and it supports my fully updated Squeeze without a glitch 
(stock GNOME install from the stock AMD64 Debian 6.0.0. DVD), regularly updated. Thus far, the only problem I had was from a failed fglrx 
installation that left a rogue fglrx-driver.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, blacklisting the radeon and preventing it from loading. Since I removed the 
file, everything works a breeze again. That was purely a PEBKAC syndrome though, no fault of Debian's.


You do have radeon-kms.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, and it has a line

options radeon modeset=1

right? And you do have no Xorg.conf whatsoever in /etc/X11, right?

The only difference I can spot is that:

1) you have a *slightly* different video card, and that
2) you installed from a netinst CD (a 386 perhaps?) as opposed to a full AMD64 
DVD.
3) potentially a different selection of packages (another desktop environment? no 
laptop task installed?)




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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:36:08 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote:
 
 I'm a bit confused.
 
 I tried to read partition info from hex-dump of first block and compare that 
 with the values from /var/log/installer/partman ...
 
 According to partition info from wiki the biggest number of chs is 0x3FF, 
 which is 1023 decimal - and partman output contains entries like:
   (91201,0,0) (91201,80,62)
 
 So is there another way to interpret entries from partition table?

The master boot record is the first sector of the disk (512 bytes).
Its LBA value is 0 and its CHS value is 0:0:1 (cylinder 0, head 0, record 1).
The partition table is contained within the master boot record.
Assuming that your disk is partitioned using the standard MS-DOS
disk partitioning scheme, the partition table is at offset 0x1be
(decimal 446).  The total size of the partition table is 64 bytes.
It consists of four 16-byte entries.

Each entry describes a primary partition or an extended partition.
There can be a maximum of one (minimum of zero) extended partitions.
Logical partitions, if any, are described in the extended partition
table in the first sector of the extended partition.  See, for example,

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record

for more details.

Each partition table entry contains the starting sector of the
partition in both CHS format and LBA format.  It also contains the
total number of sectors in the partition and the CHS address of
the last sector in the partition.  LBA values and CHS values can
be converted back and forth to each other as long as (1) the
disk geometry is known, and (2) the partition is completely
contained within the portion of the disk which is addressable
in CHS format.  In the best case scenario, CHS values can address
only the first 8.4G of the disk.  The LBA values can address up
to 2T (2 terabytes).

Unfortunately, not all disk partitioning programs agree on the
disk geometry; so what to use for LBA values depends on which
program was used to partition the disk.  I address this topic
to some extent in my LILO web page

   http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm

That's why I recommend that you concentrate on the sector numbers,
which are essentially the same as LBA values.  The sector information
is further down in the file than the CHS information.

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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread Pablo Sánchez

oh, that is on a compaq 6820s, with a mobility radeon 1350.



The only way to make squeeze work happy, was set  radeon modeset=0
on  /etc/modprobe.d, thanks to Camleon.

Regards.

Pablo

Dne, 26. 03. 2011 15:45:49 je Jackie napisal(a):

I've Installed from scratch using 6.0.1 netinst CD, but slowdown too.



That strikes me as odd indeed. My machine (6715b) should be virtually identical to yours, and it supports my fully updated Squeeze without a glitch 
(stock GNOME install from the stock AMD64 Debian 6.0.0. DVD), regularly updated. Thus far, the only problem I had was from a failed fglrx 
installation that left a rogue fglrx-driver.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, blacklisting the radeon and preventing it from loading. Since I removed the 
file, everything works a breeze again. That was purely a PEBKAC syndrome though, no fault of Debian's.


You do have radeon-kms.conf in /etc/modprobe.d, and it has a line

options radeon modeset=1

right? And you do have no Xorg.conf whatsoever in /etc/X11, right?

The only difference I can spot is that:

1) you have a *slightly* different video card, and that
2) you installed from a netinst CD (a 386 perhaps?) as opposed to a full AMD64 
DVD.
3) potentially a different selection of packages (another desktop environment? no 
laptop task installed?)







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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Geronimo
Hello,

Stephen Powell wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:36:08 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote:
  I'm a bit confused.
  
  I tried to read partition info from hex-dump of first block and compare
  that with the values from /var/log/installer/partman ...
  
  According to partition info from wiki the biggest number of chs is 0x3FF,
  
  which is 1023 decimal - and partman output contains entries like:
  (91201,0,0) (91201,80,62)
  
  So is there another way to interpret entries from partition table?
 
 The master boot record is the first sector of the disk (512 bytes).
 ...
 is further down in the file than the CHS information.

I don't want to offend you, but all that you wrote I already found from google 
and friends. 

What I did not find is some info about partman logging.
Searching debian MLs for partman has millions of hits, so its the same like no 
hits - can't read all that.

As partman is internal to d-i, where can I find some info about the numbers 
shown around partition informations?

You wrote, that disc addressing could be converted, if size is smaller than 8 
Gig - none of my partitions fits this condition, so how can I calculate a 
sector from informations of partman log?


kind regards

Gero


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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Vivek Periaraj

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011, Geronimo wrote:

Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables 
with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain 
access to data ...


This may not be what you are looking for, but if your aim is to get the 
partition table back, did you try this utility 'gpart', which guesses 
the partition table using the device name. It helped me sometime back. 
Hope it does right in your case :)


Regards,
Vivek.


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Re: boot loader

2011-03-26 Thread shawn wilson
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Andrei Popescu
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jo, 24 mar 11, 12:30:39, shawn wilson wrote:
 not sure of the topicality of this here but...

 i've got a computer with ntldr messing up. since i don't have a windows xp
 disk, i have no way of fixing this (besides torrent). so, i was hoping to
 find some sort of quick install that just shoved grup on the system and made
 a minimal partition for /boot (and whatever else is required for grub).

 You can fix it with ms-sys[1] from System Rescue CD[2]

 [1] http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/

i'll have to try this. the sourceforge page says that it works on
fat32. however, freshmeat has a changelog that seems to indicate it
works on vista/7 which (i hope) also means it works with xp (or any
other ntfs based system).

 [2] http://www.sysresccd.org/

heh, still haven't gone to the store to get media (which is why i
haven't tried anything else yet). i'm sorta hoping that #1 will make
it so that i don't have to go to the store :)
i have a kubuntu boot cd, so either an apt-get for this or get headers
and libraries and compile and run. i'm just hoping that there's enough
ram on this thing to handle this


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Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread shawn wilson
you do realize, if you don't at least cc the list, no one else sees this?

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Jackie jackie2004.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all,

 sorry for reply so later. this weekend i reinstalled again, from 5.0.4 to
 5.0.8 and final 6.0.1. when upgrade to 6.0.1, it becomes slow, i noticed
 when setting linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64, it said, This system is currently
 running Linux 2.6.26-2-amd64 and you are installing Linux 2.6.32-5-adm64, In
 the new version some of the drivers used on this system may require
 additional firemware files eg. radeon/b43/tg3 see attachment. i've already
 installed raedon RS960_cp.bin,tg3 by using apt-get install
 firmware-linux-nonfree, but after apt-get install b43-fwcutter, then system
 still complain b43 not found. see the output of dmesg:
 :~# dmesg|grep -i -e error -e fail -e warn
 [    0.00] ACPI Error: 32/64X address mismatch in Pm2ControlBlock:
 8800/8100, using 32 (20090903/tbfadt-427)
 [    0.791440] PM: Resume from disk failed.
 [    2.308698] PM: Error -22 checking image file
 [    2.308700] PM: Resume from disk failed.
 [    6.437797] amd64_edac: probe of :00:18.2 failed with error -22
 [   22.048527] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode13.fw not found
 [   22.055643] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode13.fw not found
 [   22.063020] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to
 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download
 the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all
 instructions on this website.
 [   22.846726] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode13.fw not found
 [   22.853638] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode13.fw not found
 [   22.860374] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to
 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download
 the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all
 instructions on this website

 and this time i  have xorg.conf:
 Section InputDevice
     Identifier    Generic Keyboard
     Driver        kbd
     Option        XkbRules    xorg
     Option        XkbModel    pc104
     Option        XkbLayout    us
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
     Identifier    Configured Mouse
     Driver        mouse
 EndSection

 Section Device
     Identifier    Configured Video Device
 EndSection

 Section Monitor
     Identifier    Configured Monitor
 EndSection

 Section Screen
     Identifier    Default Screen
     Monitor        Configured Monitor
 EndSection



 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:13 PM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:

 first, you might want to reply to the list. i'll go through what i see
 here for now.

 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Jackie Wang jackie2004.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 
  root@Ming:~# lspci
  00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 Host Bridge
  00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge
  (Internal
  gfx)
  00:04.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 7914
  00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI
  Express Port 1)
  00:06.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI
  Express Port 2)
  00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
  00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
  00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
  00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
  00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
  00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
  00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
  00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14)
  00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
  00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
  00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
  00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
  00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
  HyperTransport Technology Configuration
  00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
  Address Map
  00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
  DRAM
  Controller
  00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
  Miscellaneous Control
  01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon
  X1200
  Series]

 ^ there's your video card but, i've left the rest in because i
 don't necessarily think this is the issue here.

  02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b6)
  02:04.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
  (rev
  02)
  10:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M
  Gigabit
  Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)



  root@Ming:~# lsmod
  Module  Size  Used by
  ppdev   5030  0
  lp  7462  0
  sco 7209  2
  bridge   

Re: debian 6 - latest release - internet connection

2011-03-26 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Johan Scheepers, 20.03.2011:
 
 After installing debian 6 it was found that it prefers built in wireless 
 connection on my dsl.
 
 The wire connection was inserted and available.
 
 The wireless connection works ok at 55% but I would prefer wired connection.
 
 Fedora, centos, mandriva prefers wired connection on installation.
 
 Could there be a reason for debian's behaviour.

When you say inserted and available do you mean just plugged in, or 
actually working in Debian?  Could it be that the wired ethernet card 
was not recognized and/or no driver was loaded?  Does the wired 
interface work if you turn off the wireless manually?


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Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot

2011-03-26 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
Le 26/03/2011 15:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :
 tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 25/03/2011 21:19, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Hi,

 I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile
 w/o errors.

 They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2
 --initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid.

 I have looked at the initrd files with cpio and I see nothing wrong: the
 'init' file is there as it should be, etc. But what to look for?

 I use legacy-grub and that just sits there with 'boot' as the last
 command, forever.

 Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to try next?

 I have used make-kpkg many times, but not in the last 5 months, and this
 has never happened to me.

 Hugo



 Hi, I don't think there is a general problem in kernel-package
 (12.036+nmu1 here), I compiled three kernels (2.6.37* and 2.6.38*) this
 week and one more is backing right now without issue.

 Are the required hooks scripts for your setup in place and valid (see
 /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/) ? Any module missing from
 /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ?
 
 I did not change the scripts in /etc/kernel. Did you?

Yes, this is from kernel-package README :

Let me repeat:
 Since nothing is created automatically. you need to provide a hook
 script for things to happen when you install the kernel image
 package.  The user provides such scripts. For example, to invoke
 mkinitramfs, I did:
--8---cut here---start-8---
 cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs \
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/
 cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs \
/etc/kernel/postrm.d/
--8---cut here---end---8---

These scripts above to nothing unless the corresponding
 packages are installed (initramfs-tools or yaird), so you could
 potentially cp both over -- as long as you never install both yaird
 and initramfs-tools at the same time.

To run grub, I have in /etc/kernel-img.conf:
--8---cut here---start-8---
postinst_hook = update-grub
postrm_hook   = update-grub
--8---cut here---end---8---

You can look at other example in the examples directory:
/usr/share/kernel-package/examples/ to see if there are other example
script you want to cp into /etc/kernel -- and you can create your own
scripts.

This is my setup :

ls -lR /etc/kernel/

/etc/kernel/header_postinst.d:
total 8
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  436  4 juin   2010 dkms
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1404  1 mai2009 link

/etc/kernel/header_postrm.d:
total 4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 522  1 mai2009 link

/etc/kernel/header_preinst.d:
total 0

/etc/kernel/header_prerm.d:
total 4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 430  1 mai2009 link

/etc/kernel/postinst.d:
total 24
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  436  4 juin   2010 dkms
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  612  1 mai2009 initramfs
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  704  9 juil.  2010 initramfs-tools
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  196 30 nov.   2009 pm-utils
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3326 10 sept.  2009 symlink_hook
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  496 18 déc.  19:40 zz-update-grub

/etc/kernel/postrm.d:
total 12
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 919  1 mai2009 initramfs
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 567  9 juil.  2010 initramfs-tools
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 496 18 déc.  19:40 zz-update-grub

/etc/kernel/preinst.d:
total 0

/etc/kernel/prerm.d:
total 4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 630 17 juil.  2010 dkms

Ignore dkms which is not relevant to your situation. The scripts are
mostly the example ones provided by kernel-package, some slightly
adapted to my taste.

Also :

cat /etc/kernel-img.conf

# Kernel image management overrides
# See kernel-img.conf(5) for details
do_symlinks = yes
relative_links = yes
do_bootloader = no
do_bootfloppy = no
do_initrd = yes
link_in_boot = no
image_dest = /

 
 
 I have not added any module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules.

I have special needs since my system is LUKS on raid for everything
except /boot, maybe you don't need anything special here.

 

 Maybe you could try with make deb-pkg target and see if it boots
 this way.


 
 Never used that before. But I ran make deb-pkg in the kernel tree and
 that created a .deb. Installed that and booted that kernel and it
 behaved exactly the same way: last grub command is 'boot' and it just
 sits there.
 
 Hugo
 

The deb-pkg target has been added some time ago and it is now the
preferred way to build a kernel image in Debian if I understood well, I
still prefer to use kernel-package though.

If the custom kernel image doesn't boot using the stock config from a
Debian kernel (known to boot), then the image and/or initrd is in the
wrong place, doesn't exist, or doesn't contain what's needed for your
setup. That's why I would recommend booting from a Debian kernel, having
a look at the loaded modules to see if something could be missing from
your initrd (and then add it to 

Re: System becomes very slow after update to squeeze 6.0.1

2011-03-26 Thread shawn wilson
not your exact issue, but i figured i'd spend a minute and help you a
little with google. these should give you some pointers for
troubleshooting the video:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604866
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-819024-start-0.html

sense you reinstalled, i'm sorta agreeing that it's a driver issue.
however, if you still want to sorta see whether it's an x issue:
swilson-mbp-vdebian:~/code/node# sa -c
  37  100.00%   2.43re  100.00%   0.02cp  100.00%
0avio  3145k
  26   70.27%   2.39re   98.65%   0.02cp   92.45%
0avio  3445k   ***other*
   25.41%   0.03re1.26%   0.00cp6.60%
0avio  3171k   dpkg
   25.41%   0.00re0.01%   0.00cp0.94%
0avio   964k   run-parts
   7   18.92%   0.00re0.08%   0.00cp0.00%
0avio  2643k   man*
(i didn't have acct on my system, so i don't have much of an example)
either way, if you have x, it should be at the top, if you have
something else shooting you it should be above x.


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Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot

2011-03-26 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-03-26 19:47 +0100, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Yes, this is from kernel-package README :

 Let me repeat:
  Since nothing is created automatically. you need to provide a hook
  script for things to happen when you install the kernel image
  package.  The user provides such scripts. For example, to invoke
  mkinitramfs, I did:
  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs \
 /etc/kernel/postinst.d/
  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs \
 /etc/kernel/postrm.d/

 These scripts above to nothing unless the corresponding
  packages are installed (initramfs-tools or yaird), so you could
  potentially cp both over -- as long as you never install both yaird
  and initramfs-tools at the same time.

This is outdated.  Since initramfs-tools 0.94, the hook scripts provided
by initramfs-tools work fine with kernel packages created by make-kpkg.

 To run grub, I have in /etc/kernel-img.conf:
 postinst_hook = update-grub
 postrm_hook   = update-grub

This is also outdated, in Squeeze and later grub (and also grub-legacy)
provides hook scripts in /etc/kernel that will be run automatically.  In
fact, grub-legacy's postinst script will remove the above lines from
/etc/kernel-img.conf.

Sven


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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:42:15 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote:
 
 I don't want to offend you, but all that you wrote I already
 found from google and friends. 
 
 What I did not find is some info about partman logging.
 Searching debian MLs for partman has millions of hits,
 so its the same like no hits - can't read all that.
 
 As partman is internal to d-i, where can I find some info
 about the numbers shown around partition informations?

Sorry.  I guess I didn't understand what you were asking for.
In answer to your question, probably nowhere.  But I can make
some educated guesses.  For example, here's an excerpt from my
/var/log/installer/partman file:

-

.
.
.
/lib/partman/choose_partition/35crypto/choices: IN: PARTITIONS =dev=hda
parted_server: Read command: PARTITIONS
parted_server: command_partitions()
parted_server: Opening outfifo
parted_server: OUT: OK


parted_server: OUT: 1   32256-526417919 526385664   primary linux-swap
/dev/hda1


parted_server: OUT: 2   526417920-37523727359   36997309440 primary ext3
/dev/hda2


parted_server: OUT: 3   37523727360-3536639 2475809280  primary ext3
/dev/hda3


parted_server: Partitions printed

.
.
.

-

The first number after OUT is probably the partition number.
Next is two numbers separated by a hyphen.  I'm guessing that that
is the starting and ending sector numbers.  Then comes a third
number.  I'm guessing that that is the total number of sectors
in the partition.  Next comes the partition type (primary) and
the type of file system in the partition (ext3).  Now if my
guesses are correct, then the ending sector number minus the
starting sector number plus one should equal the number of sectors
in the partition.  Let's see.  Hmm.  Yes, the math holds up in
all the above examples.  Let's double check that with the current
output of parted /dev/sda unit s print free.  Hmm.  No, these
are not sector numbers, these are byte offsets.  Converting them
to sector numbers gives

1  63-1028159 1028097 primary linux-swap
2  1028160-73288529 72260370 primary ext3
3  73285530-78124094 4835565 primary ext3

And this agrees with the output of parted /dev/sda unit s print free.
(To convert the starting byte offset to the starting sector number,
simply divide by 512.  The same procedure works to convert the number
of bytes to the number of sectors: simply divide by 512.  To convert
an ending byte offset to an ending sector number, the formula is a
little more complicated: add 1, divide by 512, then subtract 1.)

The corresponding commands to create these partitions would be:

parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart primary linux-swap 63 1028159
parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart primary ext3 1028160 73288529
parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart primary ext3 73285530 78124094

It's a seat of the pants kind of thing.  You won't likely find any
official documentation on it.

Hmm.  I just discovered a rescue command in parted.  It's
description is rescue a lost partition.  The corresponding syntax
for rescue is

parted /dev/sda unit s rescue 63 1028159
parted /dev/sda unit s rescue 1028160 73288529
parted /dev/sda unit s rescue 73285530 78124094

I would think rescue would be safer to use than mkpart.
Obviously if you're going to rescue a partition, you wouldn't
want any blocks of binary zeros written to the beginning, now
would you?  Of course, you only want to rescue partitions
that are not already defined.  And rescuing a partition may
change the numbers of existing partitions, so watch out for
that.

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X after uograde??

2011-03-26 Thread I Rattan


I must have made a mistake during upgrade.

Now if I start X using startx

exec: 3: /usr/bin/X: not found

Is there a way to fix this via reconfigure/reinstall?

-ishwar


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Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot

2011-03-26 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
Le 26/03/2011 20:20, Sven Joachim a écrit :
 On 2011-03-26 19:47 +0100, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, this is from kernel-package README :

 Let me repeat:
  Since nothing is created automatically. you need to provide a hook
  script for things to happen when you install the kernel image
  package.  The user provides such scripts. For example, to invoke
  mkinitramfs, I did:
  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs \
 /etc/kernel/postinst.d/
  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs \
 /etc/kernel/postrm.d/

 These scripts above to nothing unless the corresponding
  packages are installed (initramfs-tools or yaird), so you could
  potentially cp both over -- as long as you never install both yaird
  and initramfs-tools at the same time.
 
 This is outdated.  Since initramfs-tools 0.94, the hook scripts provided
 by initramfs-tools work fine with kernel packages created by make-kpkg.
 
 To run grub, I have in /etc/kernel-img.conf:
 postinst_hook = update-grub
 postrm_hook   = update-grub
 
 This is also outdated, in Squeeze and later grub (and also grub-legacy)
 provides hook scripts in /etc/kernel that will be run automatically.  In
 fact, grub-legacy's postinst script will remove the above lines from
 /etc/kernel-img.conf.
 
 Sven
 
 

Ok, thank you for the update, this is good news for users. It wasn't the
case back in k-p 12.001 when I put the scripts in place. Maybe it's time
for a bug report to update k-p documentation ?


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Re: X after uograde??

2011-03-26 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-03-26 21:45 +0100, I Rattan wrote:

 I must have made a mistake during upgrade.

 Now if I start X using startx

 exec: 3: /usr/bin/X: not found

 Is there a way to fix this via reconfigure/reinstall?

Looks like the xserver-xorg package is not installed:

,
| $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/X
| xserver-xorg: /usr/bin/X
`

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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-26 Thread Ron Johnson

On 03/26/2011 07:18 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 26/03/11 13:13, Ron Johnson wrote:

[snip]


Most probably.  A similar addon (Old Location Bar) makes FF3.x tolerable.


Do you mean it puts location bar above tabs?



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/old-location-bar/

Causes Firefox 3's Location Bar AwesomeBar to look and act more like 
Firefox 2's old location bar.


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Re: recover partition table

2011-03-26 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 02:59:20PM +0100, Geronimo wrote:
 Hello,
 
 thank your for your assistance.
 
 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  Am Samstag, 26. März 2011 schrieb Geronimo:
   Can anybody please shine me a light, how to patch the partition tables
   with informations from that file, so it might be possible to gain access
   to data ...
   
  maybe you can fix it, when you use fdisk,
 
 Not sure about fdisk. Does fdisk write partition table entry only?
 
 ... or does it have side effects on existing data - like wiping out 
 superblock 
 of existing fs, so you have to format the partition?
 I don't want to increase the damage, therefore I ask before doing anything.
 
I would dd the disk to another disk or file before trying any recovery
steps that you're not sure of.

-Rob


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Sanem savu daavanu karti jau driz!...

2011-03-26 Thread Lazdina Ingrida
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Re: [OT] compiled kernels do not boot

2011-03-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/03/11 00:29, Stephen Powell wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:11 -0400 (EDT), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 I have tried 3 self-compiled kernels and they do not boot. They compile 
 w/o errors.

 They are compiled with 'make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -ck2 
 --initrd kernel_image'. This is with an uptodate Sid.


Could your problem be the missing =:-
make-kpkg --revision*=*1??

From my notes for --append-to-version:-
You may use alphanumeric characters, + and . (period or full stop);
do not use underscore _ or spaces, = is required

From my dodgy memory the same rules apply to --revision

Also you order the process differently, not sure if that matters, at a
minimum I'd use:-
make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers

I'd normally use something like:-
make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --revision=custom kernel_image
kernel_headers

Perhaps someone else can tell whether the syntax (=), and/or the order
is important?

snipped

After the official Debian resources I use
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_Kernel_Newbies (which better qualifies my
level of expertise!)

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