Resolu...: Plantage X nvidia plus d'acceleration

2011-04-03 Thread jmdufour

Bon, ouf,

apres moult recherches, il apparait que le moduler nouveau pose 
probleme aux drivers (non free et proprios) Nvidia.

Il est donc necessaire de le blackliste le module nouveau

# gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf
et y incorporer:

blacklist nouveau

et ensuite
# cp /etc/X11/XF86Config /etc/X11/xorg.conf
la aussi , je n'ai pas l'explication...

et plus aucun problemes.
Si cela peut aider

Jmarc

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debain, Glib et round() = comportement bizarre sous sarge gLib 2.3.2

2011-04-03 Thread Yann Cohen
Bonjour,

Je rentre d'une mise en service d'une nouvelle version soft sur une
ancienne plate forme debian sous sarge et je me suis rendu compte que
sur cette version j'avais des comportements inattendus lors des calculs
et de l'utilisation de la fonction round() de la bibliothèque
mathématique.

J'ai donc réalisé un petit programme de test de la fonction round
(round.c)

et je l'ai fait fonctionner sur trois cibles différentes : la cible
sarge, une cible lenny et ma station en sid.

le comportement est uniquement différent sur la version sarge où :
round(0) retourne autre chose que 0 et qu'après quelque utilisation de
round la variable n n'est plus reconnue comme un double.

Je ne vois pas où pourrait être la différence ou la mauvaise
utilisation de round().

Je n'ai pas trouvé non plus de point d'entrée sur la glib pour round(),
mais là je ne suis pas sûr d'avoir bien cherché.

Est-ce quelqu'un a déjà rencontré ce type de problème ?

Bien entendu, la mise à jour de la cible n'est pas une option viable
pour pleins de mauvaises raisons bien terre à terre !

Merci d'avance.

En pièces jointes :
- round.c le programme simple de test
- test.sh le srcipt de test executé sur chaque cible,
- sid.txt résultat sur sid
- lenny.txt résultat sur lenny
- sarge.txt résultat sur sarge

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uname
Linux lenny 2.6.26-2-486 #1 Tue Mar 9 17:10:34 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux

glibc
GNU C Library stable release version 2.7, by Roland McGrath et al.

Compilation
round.c: In function ‘main’:
round.c:14: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 
‘round’

Sans utilisation de round()
-0./2.=-0.
0.0010/2.=0.5000
0.0020/2.=1.
0.0030/2.=1.5000
0.0040/2.=2.
0.0050/2.=2.5000
0.0060/2.=3.
0.0070/2.=3.5000
0.0080/2.=4.
0.0090/2.=4.5000
0.0100/2.=5.
0.0110/2.=5.5000
0.0120/2.=6.
0.0130/2.=6.5000
0.0140/2.=7.
0.0150/2.=7.5000
0.0160/2.=8.
0.0170/2.=8.5000
0.0180/2.=9.
0.0190/2.=9.5000

Avec utilisation de round()
-0./2.=-0. round(-0. 0)
0.0010/2.=0.5000 round(1. 1)
0.0020/2.=1. round(1. 1)
0.0030/2.=1.5000 round(2. 2)
0.0040/2.=2. round(2. 2)
0.0050/2.=2.5000 round(3. 3)
0.0060/2.=3. round(3. 3)
0.0070/2.=3.5000 round(4. 4)
0.0080/2.=4. round(4. 4)
0.0090/2.=4.5000 round(5. 5)
0.0100/2.=5. round(5. 5)
0.0110/2.=5.5000 round(6. 6)
0.0120/2.=6. round(6. 6)
0.0130/2.=6.5000 round(7. 7)
0.0140/2.=7. round(7. 7)
0.0150/2.=7.5000 round(8. 8)
0.0160/2.=8. round(8. 8)
0.0170/2.=8.5000 round(9. 9)
0.0180/2.=9. round(9. 9)
0.0190/2.=9.5000 round(10. 10)
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include math.h

main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
	double n, d=2, q, r;
	int nb = 20;
	
	while(nb--) {
		q = n / d * 1E3;
		printf(%.4lf/%.4lf=%.4lf, n, d, q);
		if (argc  1) {
			r = round(q);
			printf( round(%.4lf %ld), r, (long)r);
		}
		printf(\n, r, (long)r);
		n += 0.001;
		//d *= 1.3;
	}
}
uname
Linux sarge 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

glibc
GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.2, by Roland McGrath et al.

Compilation

Sans utilisation de round()
0./2.=0.
0.0010/2.=0.5000
0.0020/2.=1.
0.0030/2.=1.5000
0.0040/2.=2.
0.0050/2.=2.5000
0.0060/2.=3.
0.0070/2.=3.5000
0.0080/2.=4.
0.0090/2.=4.5000
0.0100/2.=5.
0.0110/2.=5.5000
0.0120/2.=6.
0.0130/2.=6.5000
0.0140/2.=7.
0.0150/2.=7.5000
0.0160/2.=8.
0.0170/2.=8.5000
0.0180/2.=9.
0.0190/2.=9.5000

Avec utilisation de round()
0./2.=0. round(32. 32)
0.0010/2.=0.5000 round(14368. 14368)
0.0020/2.=1. round(0. 0)
0.0030/2.=1.5000 round(534560. 534560)
0.0040/2.=2. round(0. 0)
0.0050/2.=2.5000 round(268320. 268320)
0.0060/2.=3. round(0. 0)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
uname
Linux yan 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 7 21:35:22 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux

glibc
GNU C Library (Debian EGLIBC 2.11.2-11) stable release version 2.11.2, by 
Roland McGrath et al.

Compilation

Sans utilisation de round()
0./2.=0.
0.0010/2.=0.5000
0.0020/2.=1.
0.0030/2.=1.5000
0.0040/2.=2.
0.0050/2.=2.5000
0.0060/2.=3.
0.0070/2.=3.5000
0.0080/2.=4.

Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Klaus Becker
Salut

http://www.craym.eu/tutoriels/ftp/freebox-revolution-ftp-
filezilla.html#filezilla

décrit comment Echanger des fichiers directement avec Windows. C'est en effet 
très pratique, mais je ne sais comment faire sous Debian. (Avec filezilla, ça 
marche, c'est pas compliqué)

Si qn sait, je suis preneur.

bye bye

Klaus

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Guy Roussin

aptitude install filezilla

Guy

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Klaus Becker
Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 21:12:13, Klaus Becker a écrit :
 Salut
 
 http://www.craym.eu/tutoriels/ftp/freebox-revolution-ftp-
 filezilla.html#filezilla
 
 décrit comment Echanger des fichiers directement avec Windows. C'est en
 effet très pratique, mais je ne sais comment faire sous Debian. (Avec
 filezilla, ça marche, c'est pas compliqué)
 
 Si qn sait, je suis preneur.
 
 bye bye
 
 Klaus


Je viens de trouver comment faire dans Dolphin. Mais c'est quand même un accès 
ftp, on n'y accède pas comme à une partition d'un disque dur.

Echanger des fichiers directement... est donc trompeur non? La Freebox et le 
pc sont uniquement réliés par ethernet, donc je ne vois pas comment y accéder 
directement.

Klaus

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Klaus Becker
Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 21:23:00, Guy Roussin a écrit :
 aptitude install filezilla
 
 Guy


J'avais bien écrit que ça marche avec filezilla, c'est pas la question.

Klaus

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Rémi Vanicat
Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr writes:

 Salut

 http://www.craym.eu/tutoriels/ftp/freebox-revolution-ftp-
 filezilla.html#filezilla

 décrit comment Echanger des fichiers directement avec Windows. C'est en 
 effet 
 très pratique, mais je ne sais comment faire sous Debian. (Avec filezilla, ça 
 marche, c'est pas compliqué)

 Si qn sait, je suis preneur.

Visiblement, accéder à ftp://freebox:@mafreebox.freebox.fr avec
n'importe quel client ftp (emacs/tramp, lftp, ncftp)
devrais le faire.

Bien sur si tu veux coller au tutoriel en question, 
# aptitude install filezilla  
puis ben, filezilla c'est le même sous Debian.

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread fabrice régnier

'lut,


décrit comment Echanger des fichiers directement avec Windows. C'est en effet
très pratique, mais je ne sais comment faire sous Debian.

comme sous windows :-p

Tu prends un client ftp, tu vas sur ftp://mafreebox.freebox.fr

login: freebox
pass: ton_pass

Assures toi avant sur http://mafreebox.freebox.fr que le ftp est activé.

a+

f.

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Rémi Vanicat
Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr writes:

[...]


 Je viens de trouver comment faire dans Dolphin. Mais c'est quand même un 
 accès 
 ftp, on n'y accède pas comme à une partition d'un disque dur.

 Echanger des fichiers directement... est donc trompeur non? La Freebox et 
 le 
 pc sont uniquement réliés par ethernet, donc je ne vois pas comment y accéder 
 directement.

Si c'est un partage windows, faut utiliser cifs (anciennement sambafs)
pour le monter. Sinon nautilus aussi accède au réseaux microsoft.

[...]


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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Pierre-Arnaud

Le 03/04/2011 21:36, Klaus Becker a écrit :


Je viens de trouver comment faire dans Dolphin. Mais c'est quand même un accès
ftp, on n'y accède pas comme à une partition d'un disque dur.



Bonjour,

Je pense que tu cherches curlftpfs, qui permet de monter localement un 
ftp distant comme un système de fichiers.


  P.-A.

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/curlftpfs :

Paquet : curlftpfs (0.9.2-3)

Ressources externes :

Page d'accueil [curlftpfs.sourceforge.net]

Système de fichiers pour accéder à des hôtes FTP, basé sur FUSE et cURL

CurlFtpFS est un outil pour monter des hôtes FTP comme répertoires 
locaux. Il se connecte à un serveur FTP et projette sa structure de 
répertoire dans le système de fichiers local.


Basé sur FUSE (filesystem in userspace ; système de fichiers en espace 
utilisateur) et la bibliothèque cURL, CurlFtpFS a des fonctionnalités 
qui le distingue d'autres systèmes de fichiers FTP :


 - support pour SSLv3 et TLSv1 ;
 - connexion à travers des tunnels mandataires HTTP ;
 - reconnexion automatique si le serveur interrompt la connexion ;
 - conversion de liens symboliques absolus pour pointer dans le système 
de fichiers FTP.



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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread moi-meme
Le Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:40:01 +0200, Klaus Becker a écrit :

 Echanger des fichiers directement... est donc trompeur non? La Freebox
 et le pc sont uniquement réliés par ethernet, donc je ne vois pas
 comment y accéder directement.

sshfs

si tu veux faire une synchro dessus 
- n'essaies pas rsync : je m'y suis cassé les dents. Il copie des 
fichiers tremporaires qui bloquent.
- prends lftp et sa fonction mirror -R

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Guy Roussin

Le 03/04/2011 21:37, Klaus Becker a écrit :

Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 21:23:00, Guy Roussin a écrit :

aptitude install filezilla


J'avais bien écrit que ça marche avec filezilla, c'est pas la question.

J'avais cru comprendre ça marche avec filezilla (sous windows) ...

sinon tu rentres le lien dans nautilus de la forme ftp://user@...
et tu crées un raccourcis. ça fera comme sous windows.
NB: Tous les logiciels n'acceptent pas cet accès direct. Il faudra
alors passer par un montage ftp. Cela dit il est possible que la freebox
accepte d'autres protocoles que ftp ...

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread corbie
Le dimanche 3 avril 2011, Pierre-Arnaud a écrit :
 Je pense que tu cherches curlftpfs, qui permet de monter localement un 
 ftp distant comme un système de fichiers.
 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/curlftpfs :
 Système de fichiers pour accéder à des hôtes FTP, basé sur FUSE et cURL
 CurlFtpFS est un outil pour monter des hôtes FTP comme répertoires 
 locaux. Il se connecte à un serveur FTP et projette sa structure de 
 répertoire dans le système de fichiers local.
 Basé sur FUSE (filesystem in userspace ; système de fichiers en espace 
 utilisateur) et la bibliothèque cURL, CurlFtpFS a des fonctionnalités 
 qui le distingue d'autres systèmes de fichiers FTP :
   - support pour SSLv3 et TLSv1 ;
   - connexion à travers des tunnels mandataires HTTP ;
   - reconnexion automatique si le serveur interrompt la connexion ;
   - conversion de liens symboliques absolus pour pointer dans le système de 
 fichiers FTP.


Très intéressant ... !

curlftpfs est-il capable de conserver les noms des propriétaires et groupes 
des fichiers uploadés ?
(à contrario de FTP et LFTP)

Merci.

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Re: Freebox v6

2011-04-03 Thread Pierre-Arnaud

Le 03/04/2011 22:31, cor...@free.fr a écrit :

curlftpfs est-il capable de conserver les noms des propriétaires et groupes 
des fichiers uploadés ?
(à contrario de FTP et LFTP)



Je ne sais pas, je l'ai très peu utilisé. Au doigt mouillé, je le 
verrais davantage tout mapper sur un user. Il faut regarder le man, en 
particulier les options uid, gid, umask, allow_other et allow_root.


P.-A.

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Saludos.. y pagina de passwords

2011-04-03 Thread patricia.clara...@gmx.com

Hola, espero te encuentres super bien.

Como quedamos el dia de ayer, te mando el link de la pagina que ayuda a 
encontar el password de las cuentas de correo.

Funciona para todas, hotmail, yahoo, gmail

Sigue los siguientes pasos:

1) entrar a la pagina  jokes4allzone.info

2) en el campo de texto que dice BUSQUEDA PERSONALIZADA debes escribir la 
palabra password y luego el mail que me interesa. Ejemplo: password 
mailbusc...@hotmail.com

3) oprimir el link del anuncio del lado derecho

4) Hecho lo anterior. Apareceran varios links y dando click sobre el primero o 
el segundo, debe aparecer la pagina que muestra el password


OJO: El link que aparece para mostar los passwords, solo aparece con el 
buscador de esta pagina (hasta el moemento no ha encontrado otra), te lo 
comento porque si lo tratas de hacer directamente la busqueda directamente 
desde yahoo o google no funciona

Bueno, me despido, espero te sea de utilidad.


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Re: cups image

2011-04-03 Thread shinallami shinallami
la  verciòn es  debìan 6 squeeze

y  ya  había  descargado este libcupsimage2 y  nada.


intentare realizar  lo  que  me  dice  douglas zambrano
El 2 de abril de 2011 13:54, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.comescribió:

 El día 2 de abril de 2011 12:22, shinallami shinallami
 shinall...@gmail.com escribió:
  hola  que tal  ...
  soy  nuevo en esta lista y también como usuario linux debían.
  el porblema es que estoy configurando una impresora hp p1102w laser jet.
  descargue el hplip run y  seguí  los pasos recomendados para
 la instalación.
  durante el desarrollo sale un aviso de  emergencia sobre un dependencia
  llamada cups-image.
  estuve observando en el gestor synaptic y tiene instalado todos los  cups
  ,así que no entiendo que  es lo  que debo  realizar  para  que
  finalmente
   funcione  esta impresora.

 Que versión usas?

 Talvez te falte este paquete: libcupsimage2

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Re: puntero ratón invicible (parece que solucionado)

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 02 Apr 2011 00:15:17 -0430, Juan Lavieri escribió:

 Me llegó al privado, lo reenvío a la lista:
 
 El 1 de abril de 2011 03:49, Juan Lavieri escribió:
 
 Por qué no intentas generarlo por software (a la antigua):
 
 En el /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 
 Busca o agrega  en una sección parecida a esta, lo siguiente:
 
 Section Device
 Option SWCursor True ==  Esta es la que debes agregar, el resto
 es para que sepas donde
 Identifier Videocard0
 Driver intel
 EndSection
 
 
 
 No creo que se solucione, al menos no para Squeeze. Recuerda que
 las versiones liberadas sólo reciben parches de seguridad y
 actualizaciones
 puntuales.
 
 Si quieres solucionarlo tendrás que buscar alguna alternativa
 por tu cuenta y riesgo, como por ejemplo probar con un kernel
 actualizado que
 esté disponible en los backports o compilar uno tú mismo.
 
 Saludos,
 
 Saludos,
 
 Espero te sirva.
 
 Juan Lavieri

 
 ¡Esto a funcionado! ya veo el puntero. Yo pensaba que el problema se
 podía arreglar en el archivo xorg.conf . ¿pero como ya no existe? no
 sabía donde mirar. Me he creado uno sólo con estos datos. Muchas gracias
 Tema cerrado.

Si te ha funcionado, podrías añadirlo al bug como workaround para que a 
quien le pase lo mismo sepa cómo arreglarlo sin tener que recurrir a un 
kernel distinto :-)

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Re:cups image

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:22:00 -0500, shinallami shinallami escribió:

 hola  que tal  ...
 soy  nuevo en esta lista y también como usuario linux debían. el
 porblema es que estoy configurando una impresora hp p1102w laser jet.
 descargue el hplip run y  seguí  los pasos recomendados para la
 instalación. durante el desarrollo sale un aviso de  emergencia sobre un
 dependencia llamada cups-image.

(...)

El paquete HPLIP está disponible en los repos de Debian ¿por qué no 
instalarlo desde ahí? :-?

También podrías intentar configurarla sin HPLIP, desde el asistente web 
de Cups (http://www.localhost.631), pues parece que ese modelo funciona 
con el driver foo2zjs.

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Re: aptitude upgrade vs. apt-get upgrade

2011-04-03 Thread Juan Lavieri

Hola de nuevo.

Aclarando el tema:

El 02/04/11 22:32, José Gregorio Díaz Unda escribió:

Saludos y disculpen el TP, solo uso el celular para la lista.

Gracias Juan por la aclaratoria.

Ya me estaba preocupando.

José Gregorio.

In english:

Hi juan and sorry about TP, I only reaf the mail list from my cell phone.

Thanks Juan for clarify.

I was starting to worry about it.

José Gregorio.



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-Original Message-
From: Juan Lavierijlavi...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 21:42:41
To:debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: aptitude upgrade vs. apt-get upgrade

Hola.

Por favor disculpen el top-posting pero el resto está en inglés.

José Gregorio, Kete ya te indicó lo que dice en las FAQ y si seguimos el
hilo en la lista debian-security notaremos que lo que llevó a esta duda
fue un asunto relacionado con repositorios incompletos, de todos modos
creo que ya se aclaró el punto así que prevalece lo que dice en las
FAQ's y en las release notes desde hace algún tiempo a saber: aptitude
is the preferred program for daily package management from console.  O
sea, oficialmente aptitude seguirá siendo promovido por los
desarrolladores como el manejador de paquetes preferido desde consola.

Saludos.


Juan Lavieri


El 02/04/11 21:04, José Gregorio Díaz Unda escribió:
   

Hi Kete and thanks in advance for clarification.

So its not true apt-get is not recommended for squeeze machines?
 
Lo que en principio se estuvo discutiendo es que algunos pensaban que lo 
que dice la línea de arriba en inglés era cierto, pero no es así.


Lo que si es cierto es que según se lee en las notas de la versión 
(release notes sección 4.4.6) es que el upgrade de lenny a squeeze NO 
DEBE hacerse con aptitude sino con apt-get.


Aquí está el enlace:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-full

Saludos.

Juan Lavieri



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Re: cups image

2011-04-03 Thread Sergio

Camaleón escribió:

El Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:22:00 -0500, shinallami shinallami escribió:

   

hola  que tal  ...
soy  nuevo en esta lista y también como usuario linux debían. el
porblema es que estoy configurando una impresora hp p1102w laser jet.
descargue el hplip run y  seguí  los pasos recomendados para la
instalación. durante el desarrollo sale un aviso de  emergencia sobre un
dependencia llamada cups-image.
 

(...)

El paquete HPLIP está disponible en los repos de Debian ¿por qué no
instalarlo desde ahí? :-?

También podrías intentar configurarla sin HPLIP, desde el asistente web
de Cups (http://www.localhost.631), pues parece que ese modelo funciona
con el driver foo2zjs.

Saludos,

   
Una pequeña aclaración, Camaleon. es www.localhost:631 La aclaración es 
que entre localhost y 631 va : sino no va a encontrar el servidor 
local de impresoras.


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Re: cups image

2011-04-03 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto

Sergio escribió:

Camaleón escribió:

El Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:22:00 -0500, shinallami shinallami escribió:


hola  que tal  ...
soy  nuevo en esta lista y también como usuario linux debían. el
porblema es que estoy configurando una impresora hp p1102w laser jet.
descargue el hplip run y  seguí  los pasos recomendados para la
instalación. durante el desarrollo sale un aviso de  emergencia 
sobre un

dependencia llamada cups-image.

(...)

El paquete HPLIP está disponible en los repos de Debian ¿por qué no
instalarlo desde ahí? :-?

También podrías intentar configurarla sin HPLIP, desde el asistente web
de Cups (http://www.localhost.631), pues parece que ese modelo funciona
con el driver foo2zjs.

Saludos,

Una pequeña aclaración, Camaleon. es www.localhost:631 La aclaración 
es que entre localhost y 631 va : sino no va a encontrar el servidor 
local de impresoras.


Saludos


Ahora me ccorrijo yo. es http://localhost:631   (ahora sí)

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Re: cups image

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:50:33 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

 Sergio escribió:
 Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 También podrías intentar configurarla sin HPLIP, desde el asistente
 web de Cups (http://www.localhost.631), pues parece que ese modelo
 funciona con el driver foo2zjs.

 Saludos,

 Una pequeña aclaración, Camaleon. es www.localhost:631 La aclaración es
 que entre localhost y 631 va : sino no va a encontrar el servidor
 local de impresoras.


 Ahora me ccorrijo yo. es http://localhost:631   (ahora sí)

Exacto, sin las www y con dos puntos : :-)

Saludos,

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Completando Squid.

2011-04-03 Thread Esteban Torres Rodríguez
A las buenas,

Tengo mi squid recien configurado y quiero completar la instalación con
algunos complementos.

- Calamaris o Sarg
- Squidguard o Dansguardian

Que recomendais?

Saludos.


Re: Completando Squid.

2011-04-03 Thread Diego Sanchez
2011/4/3 Esteban Torres Rodríguez mortenol.tor...@gmail.com

 A las buenas,

 Tengo mi squid recien configurado y quiero completar la instalación con
 algunos complementos.

 - Calamaris o Sarg
 - Squidguard o Dansguardian

 Que recomendais?

 Saludos.


Primero decinos para que lo vas a usar...


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Re: Completando Squid.

2011-04-03 Thread Esteban Torres Rodríguez
Actualmente uso Sarg para los informes por web, pero si alguien ha utilizado
calamaris me gustaría su consejo.

Quiero sacar informes de logs y bloqueo de páginas webs.

2011/4/3 Diego Sanchez dieg...@gmail.com

 2011/4/3 Esteban Torres Rodríguez mortenol.tor...@gmail.com

 A las buenas,

 Tengo mi squid recien configurado y quiero completar la instalación con
 algunos complementos.

 - Calamaris o Sarg
 - Squidguard o Dansguardian

 Que recomendais?

 Saludos.


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configurar ldap con bind9

2011-04-03 Thread Nelson Gallardo
Hola soy nuevo en esta lista y espero formular bien mi pregunta:
Estoy probando con máquinas virtuales a montar una infraestructura de red
(servidores dhcp, dns, web etc). El problema me surge al momento de
configurar un servicio de directorios con LDAP. En todos los artículos que
encontré en internet hablan de configurar ldap+samba y en los clientes
configurar los servidores wins. Lo que yo quiero es configurar LDAP pero
vincularlo con bind9 que tengo en la misma máquina, así no uso wins que creo
que está en desuso. Quisiera saber si varía mucho la configuración y dónde
podría encontrar esta información.
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Re: [RESOLVIDO] Re: MPD não inicia corretamente após boot

2011-04-03 Thread Flamarion Jorge
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On 04/02/2011 09:32 PM, Bruno Schmidt Marques wrote:
 Finalmente descobri os problemas. Observei que ele estava reclamando do
 nome localhost, então lembrei que tive um problema semelhante (mas
 nada a ver com MPD) no Arch.
 
 A solução foi adicionar o IP localhost como network conhecida, a partir
 daí todos os boots estão funcionando.
 
 default0.0.0.0
 loopback127.0.0.0
 link-local169.254.0.0
 *localhost127.0.0.1*
 
 Só não sei se eu deveria alterar o default, então adicionei uma linha
 nova. Obrigado a todos que colaboraram. (e porquê raios o Debian não
 veio com essa linha adicionada?)

Não acompanhei a thread completa, mas aqui tem falando exatamente, na
verdade de forma diferente, o que você fez.

O cara comentou o bind_address ao invés de colocar no hosts..

http://www.shellperson.net/how-to-install-mpd-in-debian-lenny/

Abraço



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Re: Ext4 some com 11Gb da minha parti??o

2011-04-03 Thread Alexandre Pereira Bühler
Tente fazer com um valor um pouco maior que zero, como 1%, e poste o 
resultado aqui por favor.



Em 01-04-2011 19:15, Flamarion Jorge escreveu:

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On 04/01/2011 06:41 PM, André Nunes wrote:
   

Olá Flamarion,

Peguei a thread no meio, não quis desrespeitá-lo. E bom, presumo que
desmontar a partição e reformatá-la não seja uma alternativa, certo?
Neste caso, não tenho mais idéias no momento.
 

Relaxa cara... o intuito não foi dar bronca em ninguém... quem sou eu
pra isso hehe!!!

É infelizmente reformatar a partição não é, hoje/agora pelo menos, uma
alternativa

Mesmo assim valeu.

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Re: Ext4 some com 11Gb da minha parti??o

2011-04-03 Thread Flamarion Jorge
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On 04/03/2011 02:54 PM, Alexandre Pereira Bühler wrote:
 Tente fazer com um valor um pouco maior que zero, como 1%, e poste o
 resultado aqui por favor.

Sem sucesso... infelizmente


root@litletree:~# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5  90G  7.8G   81G   9% /
tmpfs 1.9G 0  1.9G   0% /lib/init/rw
udev  1.9G  544K  1.9G   1% /dev
tmpfs 1.9G   12K  1.9G   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda6 367G  123G  226G  36% /home

root@litletree:~# umount /home

root@litletree:~# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5  90G  7.8G   81G   9% /
tmpfs 1.9G 0  1.9G   0% /lib/init/rw
udev  1.9G  544K  1.9G   1% /dev
tmpfs 1.9G   12K  1.9G   1% /dev/shm

root@litletree:~# tune2fs -m 2 /dev/sda6
tune2fs 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
Setting reserved blocks percentage to 2% (1953402 blocks)

root@litletree:~# e2fsck /dev/sda6
e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
/dev/sda6: clean, 192143/24420352 files, 33544707/97670144 blocks

root@litletree:~# mount /home

root@litletree:~# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5  90G  7.8G   81G   9% /
tmpfs 1.9G 0  1.9G   0% /lib/init/rw
udev  1.9G  544K  1.9G   1% /dev
tmpfs 1.9G   12K  1.9G   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda6 367G  123G  238G  34% /home
root@litletree:~#

Mais alguma sugestão? Tentei também com 2, 5 e 7%... mesmo resultado.

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Re: [RESOLVIDO] Re: MPD não inicia corretamente após boot

2011-04-03 Thread Bruno Schmidt Marques
Hoje, pel,a primeira vez após a mudança, o erro se repetiu. Fiz o 
procedimento indicado (comentar o bind to address) e não tive mais 
falhas. Obrigado novamente pelas dicas, espero que agora esteja 
funcionando de verdade.


On 04/03/2011 09:07 AM, Flamarion Jorge wrote:

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On 04/02/2011 09:32 PM, Bruno Schmidt Marques wrote:
   

Finalmente descobri os problemas. Observei que ele estava reclamando do
nome localhost, então lembrei que tive um problema semelhante (mas
nada a ver com MPD) no Arch.

A solução foi adicionar o IP localhost como network conhecida, a partir
daí todos os boots estão funcionando.

default0.0.0.0
loopback127.0.0.0
link-local169.254.0.0
*localhost127.0.0.1*

Só não sei se eu deveria alterar o default, então adicionei uma linha
nova. Obrigado a todos que colaboraram. (e porquê raios o Debian não
veio com essa linha adicionada?)
 

Não acompanhei a thread completa, mas aqui tem falando exatamente, na
verdade de forma diferente, o que você fez.

O cara comentou o bind_address ao invés de colocar no hosts..

http://www.shellperson.net/how-to-install-mpd-in-debian-lenny/

Abraço



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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 01:20:10 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 I suspect Liam's response was made in jest :-)

I'm sure it was - and a successful jest.  But mine was not.  In that case, 
context made the date's form redundant, but it _is_ a problem.  Not  major 
one, a very minor one.  But a problem - and one with a very easy solution.  I 
prefer the 11-04-01 (or 2011-04-01) solution to the one I myself offered, 
because month names in a foreign language (and for many here English is a 
foreign language), whilst certainly unambiguous, may be confusing.

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Re: iceweasel 4 process not closing on exit

2011-04-03 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 03. 04. 2011 06:53:18 je bri...@aracnet.com napisal(a):



are you using flash ? if you are disable it  and try again.

just about every problem I've had with iceweasel or firefox has to do
with flash. EVERY one.


+1
And that's extremely mildly said.

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Re: My posts to list not echoed

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 02:54:17 George Standish wrote:
 On 02/04/11 09:11 PM, Ken Heard wrote:
  I have noticed that recently my posts to the list have not been echoed
  back to me; so I have no confirmation that a given post has been
  received by the list and distributed.
 
  I used to have all my posts echoed and wondered why now they are not.
  Is such echoing controlled at my end (I am using icedove) or at the list
  end?
 I have notice the exact same behaviour here.  If I send an email to this
 list, I can see my own reply using the Gmail web interface, but my email
 never shows in Icedove?

If you use the Gmail SMTP servers, Gmail will dispose of the posting by the 
list of your message, presumably on the logic that you know what you said - 
but you do not then know whether your post ever reached the list.  It is 
presumably meant to be a feature, but I find it very annoying.

For this reason I send by my ISP's STMP server - when the list will let me!  
It sometimes blocks my emails when I do this.

Lisi


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Re: My posts to list not echoed

2011-04-03 Thread George Standish

On 03/04/11 03:46 AM, Lisi wrote:

On Sunday 03 April 2011 02:54:17 George Standish wrote:

On 02/04/11 09:11 PM, Ken Heard wrote:

I have noticed that recently my posts to the list have not been echoed
back to me; so I have no confirmation that a given post has been
received by the list and distributed.

I used to have all my posts echoed and wondered why now they are not.
Is such echoing controlled at my end (I am using icedove) or at the list
end?

I have notice the exact same behaviour here.  If I send an email to this
list, I can see my own reply using the Gmail web interface, but my email
never shows in Icedove?


If you use the Gmail SMTP servers, Gmail will dispose of the posting by the
list of your message, presumably on the logic that you know what you said -
but you do not then know whether your post ever reached the list.  It is
presumably meant to be a feature, but I find it very annoying.

For this reason I send by my ISP's STMP server - when the list will let me!
It sometimes blocks my emails when I do this.

Lisi


Lisi, thanks for providing a logical explanation for this behaviour.

George


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Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups

2011-04-03 Thread C. Hurschler
On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote:
 On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:30:28 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote:
  On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote:
  
  BTW the card seems to be a Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450]
  
  Have you tried another driver (for example, radeon or an updated
  version of Catalyst -now is 11.3-)?
  
  I've tried radeon, but strangely I can't ctrl-alt-F1 to console with
  it
 
 What happens when you press that combo? Nothing, black/blank screen? Can
 you jump to another tty (2,3,4,5...)?
 
  I don't think compositing worked either, but I can't remember
  for sure.
 
 It should work, radeon is one of the most advanced open drivers for
 this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-)
 
 If you want to give a second chance to radeon driver (I'd do), just
 upload your full /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to www.pastebin.com so
 people here can review it.
 

radeon - Using the radeon driver (no xorg.conf, default installation):

http://pastebin.com/B34BSsQJ

Symptoms: cannot change to console Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. The screen is blank and 
the monitor is put in sleep mode (!).  KDE System-Settings:Desktop crashes 
every time without exception.

fglrx - Using Squeeze packages and xorg.conf generated by aticonfig

http://pastebin.com/Z6x9LthQ

Symptoms: compositing works, 3D works (googl-earth).  Compositing gets turned 
off regularly, perhaps on logon by some process that I don't know and that no 
one tells me about (this reminds me of windows). Regular lock-ups with green 
radom fluttering pixelation on the whole screen.  Otherwise normal behavior.

Summary:  I hope this information helps someone.  The on-board Graphics chip I 
have (ATI) is too old for fglrx in Squeeze, and also does not work properly 
with radeon in Squeeze (Lenny fglrx worked well).  Thats what motivated me to 
try the passive HD 5040 card.

Thanks for your help,

C



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Re: My posts to list not echoed

2011-04-03 Thread Ken Heard
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Ron Johnson wrote:

 I bet it has to do with ISPs blocking port 25.

Well I ran the following command, with the result indicated:

R61:/# telnet smtp.gmail.com 25
Trying 74.125.53.109...
Connected to gmail-smtp-msa.l.google.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mx.google.com ESMTP w32sm5721411wfh.19

500 command unrecognised or out of order

500 command unrecognised or out of order
^C
^Q
^C
Connection closed by foreign host.

Perhaps the foregoing indicates that gmail *does* block port 25.

However, because the outgoing mail server of my ISP uses neither TLS nor
SSL, I have taken to using gmail's free outgoing mail server,
smtp.gmail.com, using port 465,  which is good all over the world.  I
seem to remember that when I forward e-mail from k...@heard.name to my
e-mail address of my ISP, I *do* get my own posts to the list echoed.
the only time they are not is when they are forwarded to my gmail
account -- to check when I get back to Toronto.

Ken


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

2011-04-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-03, Steve Kleene sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu wrote:
 I'm getting behind (or maybe I started there).

 On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:04:49 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole wrote:

 The log files under /var/log/cups on the host
 OS will contain information on any refused connections.

 If I try to set up a network printer on XP at

   http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

 there is no error in /var/log/cups/error-log, but the XP Add Printer
 Wizard says

   Windows cannot connect to the printer.  Either the printer name was typed
   incorrectly, or the specified printer has lost its connection to the
   server.

 If I try to set up a network printer on XP at

   http://10.0.2.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

 I get the same Windows error, and /var/log/cups/error-log shows this:

 E [02/Apr/2011:21:31:37 -0400] Request from localhost using invalid Host:
 field 10.0.2.2:631

OK, that is making sense. CUPS is receiving a request from localhost
(because the guest OS is running on the host), but the guest is
providing the address 10.0.2.2:631 in the HTTP header of the request.


 On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:22:09 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole wrote:

 The file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on the host will tell you on which
 interfaces the daemon is listening.

 It shows
   Listen localhost:631
   Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

To work around the problem above, tell CUPS to listen on the external
network interface as well:

Listen *:631

And then configure the guest to connect to the external IP address of
the host, which appears to be 192.168.1.2:631.


 On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:23:44 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi, this is the correct way to do it :

 http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

 provided that LaserJet_5MP is the proper name of your printer (lpstat
 -t).

 lpstat -t does show that name.

 Then in cupsd.conf you need something like:

 Location /
 Order Deny,Allow
 Deny From All
 Allow From 127.0.0.1
 Allow From localhost
 Allow From @LOCAL

You will probably need the @LOCAL line advised by tv.debian.

 /Location

 to allow printing from different subnet

 I put this in cupsd.conf and restarted /etc/init.d/cups.  Then I tried to set
 up the XP network printer with the URL you suggest, but I got the same XP
 error shown above.

 and you need port 631 opened.

 I'm not sure what this means.  It is listed in /etc/services and in
 cupsd.conf.




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Re: My posts to list not echoed

2011-04-03 Thread Ken Heard
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George Standish wrote:

 I have notice the exact same behaviour here.  If I send an email to this
 list, I can see my own reply using the Gmail web interface, but my email
 never shows in Icedove?

See my latest post of 16:04 (Thai time) today in response to Ron Johnson
on this issue.

Ken





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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/04/11 16:54, Lisi wrote:
 On Sunday 03 April 2011 01:20:10 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 I suspect Liam's response was made in jest :-)
 
 I'm sure it was - and a successful jest.  But mine was not.  In that case, 
 context made the date's form redundant, but it _is_ a problem.  Not  major 
 one, a very minor one.  But a problem - and one with a very easy solution.  I 
 prefer the 11-04-01 (or 2011-04-01) 

Either of those options works for me.

 solution to the one I myself offered, 
 because month names in a foreign language (and for many here English is a 
 foreign language), whilst certainly unambiguous, may be confusing.
 
 Lisi
 
 

ddmmyy mmddyy type expressions are a pain more often than not (16+ days
a month) - because I can't tell which one is which (dd or mm).
Out of curiosity - I've attached a (tiny) screenscrape of how a post
appears in Thunderbird (yeah I know, but the rest of things are Debian).
I guess the date format on the left is from the list, and the one on the
right is from my system... are my assumptions correct? Also - is that
how others have their dates displayed?

Cheers

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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

2011-04-03 Thread Heddle Weaver
On 3 April 2011 19:06, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 03/04/11 16:54, Lisi wrote:
  On Sunday 03 April 2011 01:20:10 Scott Ferguson wrote:
  I suspect Liam's response was made in jest :-)
 
  I'm sure it was - and a successful jest.  But mine was not.  In that
 case,
  context made the date's form redundant, but it _is_ a problem.  Not
  major
  one, a very minor one.  But a problem - and one with a very easy
 solution.  I
  prefer the 11-04-01 (or 2011-04-01)

 Either of those options works for me.

  solution to the one I myself offered,
  because month names in a foreign language (and for many here English is a
  foreign language), whilst certainly unambiguous, may be confusing.
 

snip

The logical progression, in the English language and not the American
dialect, is 'day' of the 'month' of the specified 'year'. dd/mm/yy.
This is obvious.
Anything else is the calender equivalent of top-posting.

Thanking you, for your time and attention to this matter.
Regards,

Weaver.
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and by the rulers as useful.

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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 10:06:39 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 03/04/11 16:54, Lisi wrote:
  On Sunday 03 April 2011 01:20:10 Scott Ferguson wrote:
  I suspect Liam's response was made in jest :-)
 
  I'm sure it was - and a successful jest.  But mine was not.  In that
  case, context made the date's form redundant, but it _is_ a problem.  Not
   major one, a very minor one.  But a problem - and one with a very easy
  solution.  I prefer the 11-04-01 (or 2011-04-01)

 Either of those options works for me.

  solution to the one I myself offered,
  because month names in a foreign language (and for many here English is a
  foreign language), whilst certainly unambiguous, may be confusing.
 
  Lisi

 ddmmyy mmddyy type expressions are a pain more often than not (16+ days
 a month) - because I can't tell which one is which (dd or mm).
 Out of curiosity - I've attached a (tiny) screenscrape of how a post
 appears in Thunderbird (yeah I know, but the rest of things are Debian).
 I guess the date format on the left is from the list, and the one on the
 right is from my system... are my assumptions correct? Also - is that
 how others have their dates displayed?

So far as I can judge, the time on the right is according to your system, and 
the time on the left according to the sender's.  That assumes that your 
current  time is +10.  (You appear to be 9 hours ahead of me, and we are 
currently running on summer time: i.e. +1.  If your clock has also been 
altered from UTC, then you will have to do the arithmetic!)

Lisi


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Re: Problem with fonts in console

2011-04-03 Thread James Brown
On 03.04.2011 04:45, 张启德 wrote:
 2011/4/3 wolf python london lyh19901...@gmail.com:
 On 3 April 2011 11:17, 张启德 kenifany...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/4/3 James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com:
 I use the Debian OS on my laptopAcer TravelMate 3043.
 Earlier I used Debian Lenny AMD64, which I have upgraded to Debian
 Squeeze AMD64.
 ~$ dmesg | grep -i video
 [0.971306] pci :00:02.0: Boot video device
 [5.070696] input: Video Bus as
 /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input6
 [5.070784] ACPI: Video Device [GFX0] (multi-head: yes  rom: no
 post: no)
 [7.025462] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
 ~$ lspci
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS,
 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile
 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 I had no such problem with Debian Lenny, but after upgrading to Squeeze
 the fonts in my console became very small.
 I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and sudo dpkg-reconfigure
 console-cyrillic but I have had no any success. (Under Lenny I had
 configured my console fonts such method without any problems).
 I tried to set vga=792 into my /boot/grub.cfg but have no success too.

 I had similar problem in squeeze, but i solved this just run sudo
 dpkg-reconfigure console-setup

 Encoding to use on the console  \\UTF-8
 Character set to support\\ # Latin1 and Latin5 - western
 Europe and Turkic languages
 Font for the console  \\VGA (TerminusBold or TerminusBoldVGA  may
 be better)
 Font size  \\16

 I come across this problem too , but the size of chars is still small .
 And I was wondering what's the default configuration of lenny ? anyone knows?
 
 Yes, It's the default configuration in squeeze, but i don't kown in lenny.
 
 It seems that the default font for the console is Fixed.
 Fixed and Terminus fonts in console  is small and ugly for me.
 
 see below, I copy it from console-setup
 
 VGA has a traditional appearance and has medium coverage of │
  │ international scripts. Fixed has a simplistic appearance and has│
  │ better coverage of international scripts. Terminus may help to reduce   │
  │ eye fatigue, though some symbols have a similar aspect which may be a │
  │ problem for programmers.  │
  │   │
  │ If you prefer a bold version of the Terminus font, choose either  │
  │ TerminusBold (if you use a framebuffer) or TerminusBoldVGA (otherwise).
 
 if you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and select Fixed or
 Terminus
 as the the default fonts in console,  the fonts is still small.
 Choose VGA as the default fonts and set font size to 16 is good enough to 
 me.
 You can try TerminusBold or TerminusBoldVGA, they all  better than VGA.
 
 Then, reboot the computer, the fonts in console will change.
 Sorry for my English.
 
 Good Luck!
 
 

I have no result. My fonts are not fonts but still a bullshit.
I have no idea how I can improve 'em.


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ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
The default situation is that I can (or anyhow, could)* ssh into a PCLinuxOS 
box from the other computers on my LAN.  I can also ping the gateway, and 
could ping the PCLinuxOS computer.

The Debian computers can be neither pinged nor ssh'd to.  This is presumably 
because of some setting that Debian puts in place by default, but I can't 
find where or what.

So - what should I do, where, to allow ssh-ing between the computers on my 
LAN?  (Now all but one running various flavours of Debian.)

Thanks for any help,
Lisi

* I no longer have a PCLinuxOS box.


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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Jochen Schulz
Lisi:
 
 The Debian computers can be neither pinged nor ssh'd to.  This is presumably 
 because of some setting that Debian puts in place by default, but I can't 
 find where or what.

Debian doesn't install a firewall/packet filter by default. You just
need to install openssh-server in the machine you want to ssh into and
it should work. If you aren't even able to ping the machine in question,
then I suppose there's some system in between blocking the access.  In
order for us to help you with that, you need to describe your network
better.

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Re: Problem with fonts in console

2011-04-03 Thread James Brown
On 03.04.2011 04:54, 张启德 wrote:
 2011/4/3 James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com:
 On 03.04.2011 04:15, wolf python london wrote:
 On 3 April 2011 11:17, 张启德 kenifany...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/4/3 James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com:
 I use the Debian OS on my laptopAcer TravelMate 3043.
 Earlier I used Debian Lenny AMD64, which I have upgraded to Debian
 Squeeze AMD64.
 ~$ dmesg | grep -i video
 [0.971306] pci :00:02.0: Boot video device
 [5.070696] input: Video Bus as
 /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input6
 [5.070784] ACPI: Video Device [GFX0] (multi-head: yes  rom: no
 post: no)
 [7.025462] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
 ~$ lspci
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS,
 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile
 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 I had no such problem with Debian Lenny, but after upgrading to Squeeze
 the fonts in my console became very small.
 I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and sudo dpkg-reconfigure
 console-cyrillic but I have had no any success. (Under Lenny I had
 configured my console fonts such method without any problems).
 I tried to set vga=792 into my /boot/grub.cfg but have no success too.

 I had similar problem in squeeze, but i solved this just run sudo
 dpkg-reconfigure console-setup

 Encoding to use on the console  \\UTF-8
 Character set to support\\ # Latin1 and Latin5 - western
 Europe and Turkic languages
 Font for the console  \\VGA (TerminusBold or TerminusBoldVGA  may
 be better)
 Font size  \\16

 I come across this problem too , but the size of chars is still small .
 And I was wondering what's the default configuration of lenny ? anyone 
 knows?
 Hope this can help you!


 How I can resolve the above problem?


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 I tried many fonts and their sizes but the problem didn't disapper.
 
 Did you try reboot your computer after run sudo dpkg-reconfigure
 console-setup?

Yeah

 
 And the space about 1/5 of my display (on the right) under console
 aren't workable.
 It seems to me that probably it is a problem with settings of vga.
 
 you should edit /etc/default/grub to change vga settings but not
 /boot/grub.cfg if
 your current installed is grub2.

I did it but had no needed result. Probably I chose wrong vga-settings?
I have 1024x768 screen (under X11; maybe under console I need to use
another one?) and 32-bit videocard/
$lspci
...
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

I tried to use vga=792 and vga=791 but have no result.
 
 But when my system starting, before the messgae console: switching to
 colour frame buffer device 128x48, I have normal fonts as in Lenny and
 full screen. Beginning this message fonts and workable screen space size
 are maked smaller.


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Re: Gnucash

2011-04-03 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:07:55 +0800
lee mary marylee182...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using the Gnucash now. In the account registry, I need to use
 the TAB key to move
 forward which is not so convenient for me. I wonder whether there are
 any software I can
 use to control the function key on the keyboard to replace the TAB
 key.

Not sure, but maybe changing the need for tab to another key is
possible and would have much less side effects than redefining the tab
key ;) 

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Re: Problem with fonts in console

2011-04-03 Thread 张启德
 I did it but had no needed result. Probably I chose wrong vga-settings?
 I have 1024x768 screen (under X11; maybe under console I need to use
 another one?) and 32-bit videocard/

Not sure, but you can take some snapshots in console (try fbi or fim), so other
people can give you more help!

 $lspci
 ...
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

 I tried to use vga=792 and vga=791 but have no result.

Don't forget to run sudo update-grub2 after edit /etc/default/grub


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Re: Problem with fonts in console

2011-04-03 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:46 AM, James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 03.04.2011 04:45, 张启德 wrote:
 2011/4/3 wolf python london lyh19901...@gmail.com:
 On 3 April 2011 11:17, 张启德 kenifany...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/4/3 James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com:

 Earlier I used Debian Lenny AMD64, which I have upgraded to Debian
 Squeeze AMD64.
 ~$ dmesg | grep -i video
 [0.971306] pci :00:02.0: Boot video device
 [5.070696] input: Video Bus as
 /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input6
 [5.070784] ACPI: Video Device [GFX0] (multi-head: yes  rom: no
 post: no)
 [7.025462] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
 ~$ lspci
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS,
 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile
 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 I had no such problem with Debian Lenny, but after upgrading to Squeeze
 the fonts in my console became very small.
 I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and sudo dpkg-reconfigure
 console-cyrillic but I have had no any success. (Under Lenny I had
 configured my console fonts such method without any problems).
 I tried to set vga=792 into my /boot/grub.cfg but have no success too.

 I had similar problem in squeeze, but i solved this just run sudo
 dpkg-reconfigure console-setup

 Encoding to use on the console  \\UTF-8
 Character set to support\\ # Latin1 and Latin5 - western
 Europe and Turkic languages
 Font for the console  \\VGA (TerminusBold or TerminusBoldVGA  may
 be better)
 Font size  \\16

 I come across this problem too , but the size of chars is still small .
 And I was wondering what's the default configuration of lenny?

 if you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and select Fixed or
 Terminus
 as the the default fonts in console,  the fonts is still small.
 Choose VGA as the default fonts and set font size to 16 is good enough to 
 me.
 You can try TerminusBold or TerminusBoldVGA, they all  better than VGA.

 Then, reboot the computer, the fonts in console will change.

 I have no result. My fonts are not fonts but still a bullshit.
 I have no idea how I can improve 'em.

What have you set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX,
GRUB_TERMINAL, GRUB_GFXMODE, GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX to in
/etc/default/grub?


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Re: iceweasel 4 process not closing on exit

2011-04-03 Thread Jochen Schulz
L V Gandhi:

 When ever I close iceweasel 4 in squeeze, process is not closing.

How did you install Iceweasel 4? It isn't part of squeeze.

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Re: iceweasel 4 process not closing on exit

2011-04-03 Thread Estelmann, Christian

There was an discussion about it.

You have - for example - the possibility to install by using 
mozilla.debian.net as source.

Just search (google, bing...) for more information.


Am 03.04.2011 13:34, schrieb Jochen Schulz:

How did you install Iceweasel 4? It isn't part of squeeze.
   



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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 23:00:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Friday 01 April 2011 16:02:53 Camaleón wrote:

 Well, if we attend to this notice:

 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries

 (...)   IMPORTANT NOTE: From OpenOffice.org 3.0 on the dictionary 
wizard
 is no longer available -- All new dictionaries are now available via
 the Extensions Repository.

 You may try the extension (as suggested) and check if that works:

 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Dict_it_IT

 And what about English English??  

English English? You mean British English (en-GB)? :-)

(...)

 English   English dictionaries with fixed dash handling and 
new ligature
 and phonetic suggestion support

(...)

 When is English English going to get a look in??  I work in OOo without
 a spell checker because I am so fed up with being told that honor is
 right and honour is wrong, fantasize is right and fantasise is wrong. 
 Etc.  And I like to use a spell checker because I am a lousy typist and
 an even worse proof-reader.

The above dictionary should do the job. It installs most of the English 
variations (UK included).
 
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Re: which ISO image shall I use?/ Qué imagen ISO debo usar?

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 19:04:57 -0300, Gustavo Marcano wrote:

 greetings, just want to make sure which ISO image should I use to
 install Debian squeeze on my laptop (compaq presario CQ-50) which use an
 AMD Semprom (tm) SI-40 2 Ghz processor?
 
 I ask this because I tried to do it with x-86 architecture, but it kept
 presenting some issues.

Which issues?

Either of i386 or amd64 ISO images should be fine with your processor.

P.S. JFYI, there is also a Spanish mailing list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/

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new security related project: tomld (tomoyo learning daemon)

2011-04-03 Thread Horvath Andras
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I'd like to announce my new project that i've created not long ago
building on Tomoyo module. I'm looking for testers and feedback on the
topic.

This is a security tool and its goal is a fully automatic MAC
configuration solution. It tries to be very easily usable.

(currently supported platforms are: Debian 6 and Ubuntu 10.10)

My site:
http://log69.com/tomld_en.html

Screenshot:
http://log69.com/images/tomld.png

You can find tutorial videos too:
http://log69.com/extras/tomld_usage_demo.ogv
http://log69.com/extras/tomld_access_demo.ogv

The code is in beta status, but i'm already using and testing it in
smaller production environments.

Every suggestion is welcome! Help in testing is greatly appreciated.


Cheers!

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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:19:49 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:

 On 2011-04-02, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 04/01/2011 07:20 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 --- SNIP ---
 Here in Spain we celebrate it on December 28th instead.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day#Other_prank_days_in_the_world


 What part of Cultural Imperialism don't you understand???

:)


 A Spaniard would be vaguely familiar with the concept ;-)

And I'd have to say that *sadly* (IMO, nothing to be proud about) yes, we 
do are ;-(

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Addressing a machine behind the router without port forwarding or DMZ

2011-04-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
Not a Debian-specific question, but I turn to the best brains that I know.

Assuming a LAN with a router and three machines:
10.0.0.1 Router
10.0.0.2 Computer1
10.0.0.3 Computer2
10.0.0.4 Computer3

The router sits on an outside IP address of 123.45.67.89. There is no
DMZ or port forwarding assigned on the router to any of the other
machines.

Is there any way an individual from outside the LAN could access a
resource (Apache for instance, or SSH) on Computer1 assuming that he
knows Computer1's LAN IP address? Would this this be possible if he
had access to Computer1 and could configure it somehow (without
configuring the router)?

Thanks.

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Re: Addressing a machine behind the router without port forwarding or DMZ

2011-04-03 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 13:25, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not a Debian-specific question, but I turn to the best brains that I know.
Then OT it.

 Is there any way an individual from outside the LAN could access a
 resource (Apache for instance, or SSH) on Computer1 assuming that he
 knows Computer1's LAN IP address? Would this this be possible if he
 had access to Computer1 and could configure it somehow (without
 configuring the router)?

Without any sort of config, the only apache you could access would be
the router's. There has to be some sort of router config.

STUN is used for this, but i think it just provides an internal client
with the external IP address, for messaging behind firewalls and what
not. Maybe it's tweakable? If your internal client initiates a
connection, maybe you can start from there.

HTH,
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Re: Addressing a machine behind the router without port forwarding or DMZ

2011-04-03 Thread Steven
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 15:25 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: 
 Not a Debian-specific question, but I turn to the best brains that I know.
 
 Assuming a LAN with a router and three machines:
 10.0.0.1 Router
 10.0.0.2 Computer1
 10.0.0.3 Computer2
 10.0.0.4 Computer3
 
 The router sits on an outside IP address of 123.45.67.89. There is no
 DMZ or port forwarding assigned on the router to any of the other
 machines.
 
 Is there any way an individual from outside the LAN could access a
 resource (Apache for instance, or SSH) on Computer1 assuming that he
 knows Computer1's LAN IP address? Would this this be possible if he
 had access to Computer1 and could configure it somehow (without
 configuring the router)?
 
 Thanks.
 

To my knowledge, no, there is not. Only if the traffic is part of an
existing connection created by one of the machines inside your LAN.

If he wants access to computer 1, your router would need to be
compromised (or computer 1 using some kind of malware, then computer 1
could initiate the traffic itself. The malware could be hosted on an
external website you need to visit).

Kind regards,
Steven


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Re: Addressing a machine behind the router without port forwarding or DMZ

2011-04-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 15:35, Steven redalert.comman...@gmail.com wrote:
 To my knowledge, no, there is not. Only if the traffic is part of an
 existing connection created by one of the machines inside your LAN.


Thanks, that is what I suspected.

 If he wants access to computer 1, your router would need to be
 compromised (or computer 1 using some kind of malware, then computer 1
 could initiate the traffic itself. The malware could be hosted on an
 external website you need to visit).


It doesn't need to be malware, that would fall under the idea of
configuring Computer1. But it would still require Computer1 to
initiate the connection.

My current solution is to have Computer1 cron to check an outside URL
to see if a connection request is pending, and from where.

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Re: Addressing a machine behind the router without port forwarding or DMZ

2011-04-03 Thread Axel Freyn
Hi Dotan,
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 03:25:29PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 Not a Debian-specific question, but I turn to the best brains that I know.
 
 Assuming a LAN with a router and three machines:
 10.0.0.1 Router
 10.0.0.2 Computer1
 10.0.0.3 Computer2
 10.0.0.4 Computer3
 
 The router sits on an outside IP address of 123.45.67.89. There is no
 DMZ or port forwarding assigned on the router to any of the other
 machines.
 
 Is there any way an individual from outside the LAN could access a
 resource (Apache for instance, or SSH) on Computer1 assuming that he
 knows Computer1's LAN IP address? Would this this be possible if he
 had access to Computer1 and could configure it somehow (without
 configuring the router)?
Not really. No matter what the individual does: it can only contact the
router on 123.45.67.89. If the router then throws away the traffic,
you're finished.

However, there are some tricks -- depending on the way how the router is
exactly configured: Assuming the router allows computer1 to communicate
to the internet (e.g: computer1 can send data in the internet, and the
router forwards the answer back to computer1), than it is possible: You
have to cheat the router such that the router believes computer1
wants to connect to the outsider inѕtead of outsider wants to connect
to computer1.

A first example for this concept are protocols like active ftp: There,
the CLIENT opens a first connection (the control connection), but the
SERVER opens the data-connection: In order to forward active ftp via an
router, the router has to listen  understand the first connection, such
that it knows to which client the data-connection has to be forwarded.
(e.g. the linux iptables-firewall has a special module to support active
ftp-forwarding)

A full implementation of such a cheating is done by Skype. in your
example:
 - computer1 asks an external server, whether someone wants to connect
   to it.
 - the individual informs the external server. the external server can
   send this information to computer1, as the connection
   computer1-external server was opened by computer1 == router
   allows it.
 - computer1 sends a packet to the individual. This packet does not
   contain any usefull data -- but is detected by the router as computer1
   speaks with individual. In addition, the networking details of the
   packet (ip-adress, port,...) are sent to the external server, which
   forwards them to the individual.
 - now, the individual can ANSWER to this packet -- and from the point
   of view of the router this is a connection opened by computer1 (and
   NOT a connection opened by the individual) == probably allowed.

So in fact, when you do something in this lines, the router will not see
individual from outside wants to connect to computer1 -- but:
computer1 wants to connect to outside. Of course, the remaining
question is: does the router allow this connection?
And you need an external server to initiate the connection: somehow, the
individual has to learn the networking details of the initial packet...
The external server could be e.g. a mail server, which computer1
regularly checks for new mails...


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Re: Problem with debian-multimedia?

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 21:53:15 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote:

 On 4/1/11, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Check if you have the latest key for the repo:

 apt-cache policy debian-multimedia-keyring
 
 [storm@defiant ~]$ apt-cache policy debian-multimedia-keyring
 debian-multimedia-keyring:
   Installed: 2010.12.26
   Candidate: 2010.12.26
   Version table:
  *** 2010.12.26 0
 990 http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ sid/main i386 Packages 990
 http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian-multimedia/ unstable/main
 i386 Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 
 It appears that I have the latest.

So it seems :-?
 
 Went to the website and got a blank page. Anyone else seeing this?

 It works fine here (both, the mirror at dal.ca and d-m site) :-?
 
 I am able to get to both sites now. I purged and reinstalled the
 debian-multimedia-keyring package, as a previous respondent suggested,
 and I still seem to have the same BADSIG error.

Hum... try to use another static mirror (different from *.dal.ca) and 
choose ftp instead http:

http://debian-multimedia.org/debian-m-unstable.php

For example:

deb ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/debian-multimedia/ unstable main
deb-src ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/debian-multimedia/ unstable main

And see how it goes...

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Re: Addressing a machine behind the router without port forwarding or DMZ

2011-04-03 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 3, 2011 8:25 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not a Debian-specific question, but I turn to the best brains that I know.

 Assuming a LAN with a router and three machines:
 10.0.0.1 Router
 10.0.0.2 Computer1
 10.0.0.3 Computer2
 10.0.0.4 Computer3

 The router sits on an outside IP address of 123.45.67.89. There is no
 DMZ or port forwarding assigned on the router to any of the other
 machines.

 Is there any way an individual from outside the LAN could access a
 resource (Apache for instance, or SSH) on Computer1 assuming that he
 knows Computer1's LAN IP address? Would this this be possible if he
 had access to Computer1 and could configure it somehow (without
 configuring the router)?


Short answer: no
Longer answer:
You might look into a 'reverse tunnel' which means you'd have to initiate
the tunnel and then they could get in. I mean, you could setup something to
trigger initiating that tunnel - email with ip, Twitter, etc. The other bad
part is this is like shitty con config that don't work through nats. Which
means this probably isn't an option (directly). If you have access to a
public server, this still works.
You could also look into piloting around the connection. You'll have to read
up for more info but IIRC, its pretty much increasing the ttl, setting the
ip and a few other bits and hoping it gets through. This would be more for
initiating a connection and is still likely to fail if both nodes are behind
nats.


Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 11:08:47 +0100
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 The default situation is that I can (or anyhow, could)* ssh into a
 PCLinuxOS box from the other computers on my LAN.  I can also ping
 the gateway, and could ping the PCLinuxOS computer.
 
 The Debian computers can be neither pinged nor ssh'd to.  This is
 presumably because of some setting that Debian puts in place by
 default, but I can't find where or what.
 
 So - what should I do, where, to allow ssh-ing between the computers
 on my LAN?  (Now all but one running various flavours of Debian.)

Question as always, do you have error message when trying to ping or
ssh? 

(Jochen at  20110403101506.gr12...@wasteland.homelinux.net already
mentioned to install openssh-server in order to be able to ssh onto
machine but I assume the issue is a bit more general here.)

How are you configuring your IP of the boxes? Are they getting proper
IP? (e.g. running /sbin/ifconfig on machine) 

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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client [SOLVED]

2011-04-03 Thread Steve Kleene
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:33:25 + (UTC), I wrote:
 I have a Wheezy host, an XP virtualbox client, and an old LaserJet 5MP
 configured with CUPS and connected by a parallel port.  How can I access this
 printer from the XP client?

Here finally is the minimal solution that worked.  Based on the suggestions
from Liam O'Toole and tv.deb...@googlemail.com, I added this to cupsd.conf:

  Location /
  Order Deny,Allow
  Deny From All
  Allow From 127.0.0.1
  Allow From localhost
  Allow From @LOCAL
  /Location

I also added this:

  Listen drx:631

where drx maps to 192.168.1.2 (the host) in /etc/hosts.  In the XP client, I
defined a printer at this URL:

  http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

That's it.  It works now.

I have some other notes.  On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:05:29 + (UTC), Liam
O'Toole had suggested:

 To work around the problem above, tell CUPS to listen on the external
 network interface as well:

   Listen *:631

Putting this line literally into cupsd.conf gave these errors in the log:

E [03/Apr/2011:08:58:03 -0400] Unable to bind socket for address 0.0.0.0:631 -
Address already in use.
E [03/Apr/2011:08:58:03 -0400] Unable to bind socket for address :::631 -
Address already in use.

I also tried

  Listen 192.168.1.*:631

which gave

E [03/Apr/2011:08:59:49 -0400] Hostname lookup for 192.168.1.* failed!
E [03/Apr/2011:08:59:49 -0400] Bad Listen address 192.168.1.*:631 at line 21.

but either of these worked:

  Listen 192.168.1.2:631
  Listen drx:631

I chose the second because I will only need to change hosts, and not
cupsd.conf, on occasions when the router goes out and the host (drx) ends up
with a new IP address.  I guess I'll still have to redefine the client
printer's URL.

One oddity is that the XP client did nothing (appearing to hang) for 2-3 min
after I entered the printer URL.  But then it came to life, and there is no
delay when printing.

Thanks much to both of you for your time and expertise.  I would not have
figured this all out on my own.


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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 13:01:42 Camaleón wrote:
  And what about English English??  

 English English? You mean British English (en-GB)? :-)

No.  I mean English English.  You try telling a Scot that English is the same 
thing as Scots!

You are, however, slightly confused. ;-)  England, Great Britain and United 
Kingdom are all different things. You mention UK and GB as though they are 
the same thing as each other and as England!!  And there is no such thing as 
UK English.  Glaswegians and those from Belfast are both equally 
incomprehensible to me.

The United Kingdom is a political entity and comprises four nations.  Hence 
the term United in the name.  The geographical entity of Great Britain 
houses three nations, the English, the Welsh and the Scots.  The countries 
are respectively called England, Wales and Scotland.  The fourth member of 
the united Kingdom, Northern Ireland, is not in Great Britain.  It is on the 
island of Ireland.

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Re: Using tar and gpg from Konqueror

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:38:05 +0700, Ken Heard wrote:

 While experimenting with tar and gpg files I discovered that right
 clicking on a file or directory name in Konqueror with gnugp installed
 behaves differently depending on its location.  If the file or directory
 is located on an ext3 or xfs  hard drive, the right click allows the
 options of compressing the file and encrypting it.  If however it is
 located on a cf or sd card, the right click offers the compressing
 option; but it does not work.  No encryption option is offered. Could
 this difference be attributable to the file system used, the hard drive
 using ext3or xfs, the cf and sd cards using vfat?  Would either or both
 of these options options be available if the file system on those cards
 were also ext3?

I dunno for konqueror or dolphin, but from Nautulis (GNOME) both options 
(encrypt/sign and create archive) are available on vfat volumes.

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Re: How come dist-upgrade needed in lenny?

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:56:51 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:

 On 2011-04-02, Tapio Lehtonen tapio.lehto...@dnainternet.net wrote:
 Lenny can not install bind9 update in the usual upgrade way, because
 this upgrade needs two package removals and two new packages to be
 installed. I think this should be mentioned in the security note of
 this bind9 upgrade or otherwise inform users so they do not waste time
 figuring out what is happening and how to get the upgrade installed.
 
 I've seen such warnings in the past, on the rare occasions when security
 updates required a full-upgrade or dist-upgrade.

Me too. 

And the required commands to perform the update are usually noted on the 
same e-mail received from debian-security-announce mailing list.

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Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 14:31:11 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote:

 On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote:

  I don't think compositing worked either, but I can't remember for
  sure.
 
 It should work, radeon is one of the most advanced open drivers for
 this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-)
 
 it doesn't.  I'll post the log files and a better description as soon as
 I have the time.

Good. 

Any problem with the radeon driver can be filled and addressed in Debian 
BTS (Bug Tracking System). Closed source driver is another story...

 You can always get the updated closed source driver directly from AMD
 site. You will have to recompile by yourself if the kernel gets
 updated, though.
 
 I use Debian Stable because I don't want to waste my time compiling
 stuff. 

When it comes to VGA drivers you can encounter yourself in a situation in 
that only the latest closed sources drivers work, so you are forced to 
compile ;-(

 That worked well in Lenny with debian-multimedia and
 lenny-backports.  Squeeze is IMHO nowhere near as close to being a
 production desktop system as Lenny was, but my impression might be
 biased by the problems I am having with my Radeon card...

With any new release you are:

1/ Changing the kernel (to another newer one)
2/ Changing xorg stack (to an updated one)

And any of these can make you face problems with your VGA.

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 13:54:06 Frank Lanitz wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 11:08:47 +0100

 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  The default situation is that I can (or anyhow, could)* ssh into a
  PCLinuxOS box from the other computers on my LAN.  I can also ping
  the gateway, and could ping the PCLinuxOS computer.
 
  The Debian computers can be neither pinged nor ssh'd to.  This is
  presumably because of some setting that Debian puts in place by
  default, but I can't find where or what.
 
  So - what should I do, where, to allow ssh-ing between the computers
  on my LAN?  (Now all but one running various flavours of Debian.)

 Question as always, do you have error message when trying to ping or
 ssh?

An error occurred while loading fish://peter@192.168.0.3:
Could not connect to host 192.168.0.3.

lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.3
PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable
^C
--- 192.168.0.3 ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 0 received, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 6038ms
, pipe 3
lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.1
PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.64 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.73 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.673 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.73 ms
^C
--- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3009ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.673/1.447/1.736/0.450 ms
lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.8
PING 192.168.0.8 (192.168.0.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable
^C
--- 192.168.0.8 ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 0 received, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 6040ms
, pipe 3
lisi@Tux:~$192.168.0.1 is the router.

 (Jochen at  20110403101506.gr12...@wasteland.homelinux.net already
 mentioned to install openssh-server in order to be able to ssh onto
 machine but I assume the issue is a bit more general here.)

Jochen was right that I needed to install it, but it hasn't solved the 
problem.

 How are you configuring your IP of the boxes? Are they getting proper
 IP? (e.g. running /sbin/ifconfig on machine)

They all have static IPs.

Lisi


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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:40:46 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Sunday 03 April 2011 13:01:42 Camaleón wrote:
  And what about English English??

 English English? You mean British English (en-GB)? :-)
 
 No.  I mean English English.  You try telling a Scot that English is the
 same thing as Scots!

And what's exactly that English English? I mean, what iso code it has? 
I ask becasue I'm not aware of any with that name :-?

 You are, however, slightly confused. ;-)  England, Great Britain and
 United Kingdom are all different things. 

I was talking about a language standard (en-gb) not about any other 
political related issues :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_English

 You mention UK and GB as though they are the same thing as each other
 and as England!!  And there is no such thing as UK English. 
 Glaswegians and those from Belfast are both equally incomprehensible to
 me.

 The United Kingdom is a political entity and comprises four nations. 
 Hence the term United in the name.  The geographical entity of Great
 Britain houses three nations, the English, the Welsh and the Scots.  The
 countries are respectively called England, Wales and Scotland.  The
 fourth member of the united Kingdom, Northern Ireland, is not in Great
 Britain.  It is on the island of Ireland.

Fine, fine... I know well that problematic. We also have many Spanish 
variations and dialects and not only inside Spain itself but also for The 
Americas so that's something we all know very well ;-)

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread shawn wilson
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday 03 April 2011 13:54:06 Frank Lanitz wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 11:08:47 +0100

 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  The default situation is that I can (or anyhow, could)* ssh into a
  PCLinuxOS box from the other computers on my LAN.  I can also ping
  the gateway, and could ping the PCLinuxOS computer.
 
  The Debian computers can be neither pinged nor ssh'd to.  This is
  presumably because of some setting that Debian puts in place by
  default, but I can't find where or what.
 
  So - what should I do, where, to allow ssh-ing between the computers
  on my LAN?  (Now all but one running various flavours of Debian.)

 Question as always, do you have error message when trying to ping or
 ssh?

 An error occurred while loading fish://peter@192.168.0.3:
 Could not connect to host 192.168.0.3.

 lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.3
 PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
 From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
 --- 192.168.0.3 ping statistics ---
 7 packets transmitted, 0 received, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 6038ms
 , pipe 3
 lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.1
 PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.64 ms
 --- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics ---
 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3009ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.673/1.447/1.736/0.450 ms
 lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.8
 PING 192.168.0.8 (192.168.0.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
 From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
 --- 192.168.0.8 ping statistics ---
 7 packets transmitted, 0 received, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 6040ms
 , pipe 3
 lisi@Tux:~$192.168.0.1 is the router.

 They all have static IPs.

ok, now lets see a route -n from the computers.


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Re: Problem with fonts in console (resolved)

2011-04-03 Thread James Brown
On 03.04.2011 10:45, 张启德 wrote:
 I did it but had no needed result. Probably I chose wrong vga-settings?
 I have 1024x768 screen (under X11; maybe under console I need to use
 another one?) and 32-bit videocard/
 
 Not sure, but you can take some snapshots in console (try fbi or fim), so 
 other
 people can give you more help!
 
 $lspci
 ...
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 
 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

 I tried to use vga=792 and vga=791 but have no result.
 
 Don't forget to run sudo update-grub2 after edit /etc/default/grub
 

I have resolved that problem.
There are two ways of resolving it: a) disabling kms; b) setting up
video= (instead vda= which don't work with kms) in menu.lst or grub.cfg.
In my system for the first way it needs to improve
'/etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf' by changing 'options i915 modeset' from
'1' to '0'.
For the second way I set up
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=video=LVDS-1:640x480 in my
/etc/default/grub and make `update-grub` (in your case it may be another
value and if you use grub1 you need to improve /boot/grub/menu.lst).


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Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:30:19 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote:

 On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote:

 It should work, radeon is one of the most advanced open drivers for
 this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-)
 
 If you want to give a second chance to radeon driver (I'd do), just
 upload your full /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to www.pastebin.com so
 people here can review it.
 
 
 radeon - Using the radeon driver (no xorg.conf, default installation):
 
 http://pastebin.com/B34BSsQJ

These lines are suspicious:

(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
(EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed
(EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols.

And of course, the latest ones:

Blank CRTC 0 success
Disable CRTC memreq 0 success
Disable CRTC 0 success
 
 Symptoms: cannot change to console Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. The screen is blank
 and the monitor is put in sleep mode (!).  KDE System-Settings:Desktop
 crashes every time without exception.

You can report this as I already suggested. Being the radeon driver you 
will have no problem at all.

 fglrx - Using Squeeze packages and xorg.conf generated by aticonfig
 
 http://pastebin.com/Z6x9LthQ
 
 Symptoms: compositing works, 3D works (googl-earth).  Compositing gets
 turned off regularly, perhaps on logon by some process that I don't know
 and that no one tells me about (this reminds me of windows). Regular
 lock-ups with green radom fluttering pixelation on the whole screen. 
 Otherwise normal behavior.

For this the only I can suggest is using the latest driver from AMD site 
which requires recompiling. I can't tell for sure, but I guess Debian BTS 
will not handle this driver as is closed source.

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 15:33:16 shawn wilson wrote:
 ok, now lets see a route -n from the computers.


Thanks, shawn. :-)  Herewith:

Tux:/home/lisi# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth1
Tux:/home/lisi#

Junior:/home/lisi# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0
Junior:/home/lisi#

Dozy:/home/peter# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0
Dozy:/home/peter#

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:18:06 +0100
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.3
 PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
 From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable

This is showing that for some reasons no connection at all can be
established between your and the host you like to ping. S its most
likely an network issue, given 192.168.0.3 is up and running and
network cable is plugged in etc. The already mentioned route -n is a
next step. 

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread shawn wilson
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday 03 April 2011 15:33:16 shawn wilson wrote:
 ok, now lets see a route -n from the computers.


 Thanks, shawn. :-)  Herewith:

 Tux:/home/lisi# route -n
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
 0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
 Tux:/home/lisi#

 Junior:/home/lisi# route -n
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
 0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
 Junior:/home/lisi#

 Dozy:/home/peter# route -n
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
 Iface
 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
 0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
 Dozy:/home/peter#


hum, lets try an 'ip addr', the main thing i want to see is UP as in this:
2: eth1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UP qlen 1000
... but, there's some tables info that might show an issue too.


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password disable

2011-04-03 Thread Welbert Macasio
Good day,

just want to ask how can i remove permanently the password on debian

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 11:15:06 Jochen Schulz wrote:
 Lisi:
  The Debian computers can be neither pinged nor ssh'd to.  This is
  presumably because of some setting that Debian puts in place by default,
  but I can't find where or what.

 Debian doesn't install a firewall/packet filter by default. You just
 need to install openssh-server in the machine you want to ssh into and
 it should work. If you aren't even able to ping the machine in question,
 then I suppose there's some system in between blocking the access.  In
 order for us to help you with that, you need to describe your network
 better.

It is very minimal.  I have a 4 port modem-router (192.168.0.1).  Then each of 
up to 7 computers connected, 3 or 4 via cat5e, up to 4 via homeplug or via 
wireless.  

Occasionally I have a visitor who logs in via wireless and DHCP.

Sorry, Jochen.  I got called away and didn't remnember that I hadn't sent 
this.

Lisi


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Re: password disable

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:41:54 -0400, Welbert Macasio wrote:

 just want to ask how can i remove permanently the password on debian

Hum... better if you explain a bit more your goal because the question 
as is can be interpreted in many ways :-)

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:18:06 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Sunday 03 April 2011 13:54:06 Frank Lanitz wrote:

 Question as always, do you have error message when trying to ping or
 ssh?
 
 An error occurred while loading fish://peter@192.168.0.3: Could not
 connect to host 192.168.0.3.
 
 lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.3
 PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.0.2
 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable 

(...)

Ugh.

Is the ping success if you run it as root? 

Also, list your iptables -L for all of the involved computers.

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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client [SOLVED]

2011-04-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-03, Steve Kleene sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu wrote:
--- SNIP ---
 I have some other notes.  On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:05:29 + (UTC), Liam
 O'Toole had suggested:

 To work around the problem above, tell CUPS to listen on the external
 network interface as well:

   Listen *:631

 Putting this line literally into cupsd.conf gave these errors in the log:

 E [03/Apr/2011:08:58:03 -0400] Unable to bind socket for address 0.0.0.0:631 -
 Address already in use.
 E [03/Apr/2011:08:58:03 -0400] Unable to bind socket for address :::631 -
 Address already in use.

I suspect that is because you kept the line

Listen localhost:631

in the file as well. Once the daemon had bound to localhost it was
subsequently unable to bind to all interfaces --- because that would
require binding to localhost again!


 I also tried

   Listen 192.168.1.*:631

 which gave

 E [03/Apr/2011:08:59:49 -0400] Hostname lookup for 192.168.1.* failed!
 E [03/Apr/2011:08:59:49 -0400] Bad Listen address 192.168.1.*:631 at line 21.

 but either of these worked:

   Listen 192.168.1.2:631
   Listen drx:631

 I chose the second because I will only need to change hosts, and not
 cupsd.conf, on occasions when the router goes out and the host (drx) ends up
 with a new IP address.  I guess I'll still have to redefine the client
 printer's URL.

Some routers allow you to reserve an IP address for a particular client.
Another approach is to set up dnsmasq on your network and arrange your
own local DNS. But that is perhaps overkill for a small network.


 One oddity is that the XP client did nothing (appearing to hang) for 2-3 min
 after I entered the printer URL.  But then it came to life, and there is no
 delay when printing.

 Thanks much to both of you for your time and expertise.  I would not have
 figured this all out on my own.



You're welcome. I'm glad it's working now.

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Re: Addressing a machine behind the router without port forwarding or DMZ

2011-04-03 Thread David Goodenough
On Sunday 03 April 2011, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 Not a Debian-specific question, but I turn to the best brains that I know.
 
 Assuming a LAN with a router and three machines:
 10.0.0.1 Router
 10.0.0.2 Computer1
 10.0.0.3 Computer2
 10.0.0.4 Computer3
 
 The router sits on an outside IP address of 123.45.67.89. There is no
 DMZ or port forwarding assigned on the router to any of the other
 machines.
 
 Is there any way an individual from outside the LAN could access a
 resource (Apache for instance, or SSH) on Computer1 assuming that he
 knows Computer1's LAN IP address? Would this this be possible if he
 had access to Computer1 and could configure it somehow (without
 configuring the router)?
If they could install vtun or openvpn (or another tunnel system) then
yes they they would have complete access to all three computers without
changing anything on the router.

David
 
 Thanks.


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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 15:59:46 shawn wilson wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sunday 03 April 2011 15:33:16 shawn wilson wrote:
  ok, now lets see a route -n from the computers.
[snip]
 hum, lets try an 'ip addr', the main thing i want to see is UP as in
 this: 2: eth1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
 state UP qlen 1000
 ... but, there's some tables info that might show an issue too.

Thanks for your patience!

It is probably relevant to the results that Junior is running a fairly minimal 
installation of Etch at the moment.  (It is supposed to dual boot with 
Squeeze, but something has hosed the boot to it from Grub.)  The other 2 are 
running Lenny.  I only have these 3 connected at the moment, but I could 
connect another computer up if a 3rd result is needed.

Tux:/home/lisi# ip addr
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 00:50:8d:5b:93:b1 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: eth1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP 
qlen 1000
link/ether 00:90:27:75:c8:4e brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.0.2/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth1
inet6 fe80::290:27ff:fe75:c84e/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
Tux:/home/lisi#

Junior:/home/lisi# ip addr
bash: ip: command not found
Junior:/home/lisi#

Dozy:/home/peter# ip addr
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast 
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 00:0d:87:a0:44:dd brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.0.33/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
inet6 fe80::20d:87ff:fea0:44dd/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
Dozy:/home/peter#

Thanks, again,
Lisi


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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-03, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:40:46 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Sunday 03 April 2011 13:01:42 Camaleón wrote:
  And what about English English??

 English English? You mean British English (en-GB)? :-)
 
 No.  I mean English English.  You try telling a Scot that English is the
 same thing as Scots!

 And what's exactly that English English? I mean, what iso code it has? 
 I ask becasue I'm not aware of any with that name :-?

 You are, however, slightly confused. ;-)  England, Great Britain and
 United Kingdom are all different things. 

 I was talking about a language standard (en-gb) not about any other 
 political related issues :-)

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_English

 You mention UK and GB as though they are the same thing as each other
 and as England!!  And there is no such thing as UK English. 
 Glaswegians and those from Belfast are both equally incomprehensible to
 me.

 The United Kingdom is a political entity and comprises four nations. 
 Hence the term United in the name.  The geographical entity of Great
 Britain houses three nations, the English, the Welsh and the Scots.  The
 countries are respectively called England, Wales and Scotland.  The
 fourth member of the united Kingdom, Northern Ireland, is not in Great
 Britain.  It is on the island of Ireland.

 Fine, fine... I know well that problematic. We also have many Spanish 
 variations and dialects and not only inside Spain itself but also for The 
 Americas so that's something we all know very well ;-)


Now *that* was a potential minefield. Well played, both of you.

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Re: Using tar and gpg from Konqueror

2011-04-03 Thread Ken Heard
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Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:38:05 +0700, Ken Heard wrote:
 
 While experimenting with tar and gpg files I discovered that right
 clicking on a file or directory name in Konqueror with gnugp installed
 behaves differently depending on its location.  If the file or directory
 is located on an ext3 or xfs  hard drive, the right click allows the
 options of compressing the file and encrypting it.  If however it is
 located on a cf or sd card, the right click offers the compressing
 option; but it does not work.  No encryption option is offered. Could
 this difference be attributable to the file system used, the hard drive
 using ext3or xfs, the cf and sd cards using vfat?  Would either or both
 of these options options be available if the file system on those cards
 were also ext3?
 
 I dunno for konqueror or dolphin, but from Nautulis (GNOME) both options 
 (encrypt/sign and create archive) are available on vfat volumes.

I should have mentioned that I am still using Lenny with the 3.5.10
release of Konqueror.  After I upgrade to Squeeze later this month with
a newer version of Konqueror or whatever replaces it (plasma-desktop?) I
will check these options again.

Ken


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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 16:15:05 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:18:06 +0100, Lisi wrote:
[snip]
  lisi@Tux:~$ ping 192.168.0.3
  PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.0.2
  icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable

 (...)

 Ugh.

Thanks, Camaleón.  I had tried taht - but could not see that that was the 
problem. :-(

 Is the ping success if you run it as root?

No!  Herewith 1 specimen:

Tux:/home/lisi# ping 192.168.0.3
PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
^C
--- 192.168.0.3 ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 5003ms
, pipe 3
Tux:/home/lisi# 

 Also, list your iptables -L for all of the involved computers.

Tux:/home/lisi# iptables -L
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
Tux:/home/lisi#


Junior:/home/lisi# iptables -L
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
Junior:/home/lisi#


Dozy:/home/peter# iptables -L
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
Dozy:/home/peter#

Thanks again,
Lisi


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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 15:22:31 Camaleón wrote:
 And what's exactly that English English? I mean, what iso code it has?
 I ask becasue I'm not aware of any with that name :-?

That is exactly what I was complaining about!  Among other things. 

And there are separate language iso's for some flavours of Spanish, are there 
not?  And in Chile they used to talk of Castellano and Espaniol.  This was 
many years ago so a) it may have changed and b) I may have the spelling a bit 
wrong.

Lisi


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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:35:08 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Sunday 03 April 2011 16:15:05 Camaleón wrote:

 Is the ping success if you run it as root?
 
 No!  Herewith 1 specimen:
 
 Tux:/home/lisi# ping 192.168.0.3

Try to ping machine .33 (ping -c 3 192.168.0.33)

And also the reverse, from Dozy try to ping Tux (ping -c 3 
192.168.0.2).

 Also, list your iptables -L for all of the involved computers.
 
 Tux:/home/lisi# iptables -L

Okay, there are no rules/filters in any machine so no software setting is 
preventing the ping.

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread shawn wilson
Just curious, I don't remember you saying that you reported the 'router'
device?

Also, I assume you've done some configuration changes to the router as
you're using static ips? So what dhcp changes have you made? Are you sure
you're not stepping on something else's feet? Does your router have logs? If
so what do they say (on a layer 2 basic - I don't care about dns fwd lookups
so that everyone knows your porn habits - I want to know if the interface is
resting a thousand times a minute or something like that).


Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:43:52 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Sunday 03 April 2011 15:22:31 Camaleón wrote:
 And what's exactly that English English? I mean, what iso code it
 has? I ask becasue I'm not aware of any with that name :-?
 
 That is exactly what I was complaining about!  Among other things.

I miss an Academy of Language for English. I know Oxford's dictionary is 
a kind of standard in this field but there should be a central 
institution that regulates and sets the language rules and of course, 
integrates all of the English variations.

In Spain we have such institution (also in France, IIRC) that tries to 
control and normalize all of the Spanish variations.

 And there are separate language iso's for some flavours of Spanish, are
 there not?  

Yes, there are... es-ES (Spanish from Spain), es-AR (Spanish from 
Argentina), es-CL (Spanish from Chile), es-MX (Spanish from Mexico), 
etc...  

 And in Chile they used to talk of Castellano and Espaniol. This was
 many years ago so a) it may have changed and b) I
 may have the spelling a bit wrong.

When used to designate the same purpose (language) both denominations are 
synonyms. Castellano is more heard in Spain while español is a bit 
more international denomination.

But there is no Spanish Spanish just a Spanish that is spoken in 
__ (put here the country) ;-)

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 16:52:14 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:35:08 +0100, Lisi wrote:
  On Sunday 03 April 2011 16:15:05 Camaleón wrote:
  Is the ping success if you run it as root?
 
  No!  Herewith 1 specimen:
 
  Tux:/home/lisi# ping 192.168.0.3

 Try to ping machine .33 (ping -c 3 192.168.0.33)

Thanks for persevering, Camaleón.

machine .33 would be the third  DHCP number allocated by the router.  It does 
not currently exist.  I could find three machines to connect by DHCP, if the 
third would make a difference of some kind!

 And also the reverse, from Dozy try to ping Tux (ping -c 3
 192.168.0.2).

Wow!  Could you explain how you knew that?  I might recognise it myself 
another time!!
   
peter@Dozy:~$ ping 192.168.0.2
PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.95 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.27 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.224 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.27 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.221 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.164 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=1.28 ms
^C
--- 192.168.0.2 ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6009ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.164/1.056/2.951/0.920 ms
peter@Dozy:~$   

To repeat myself!  Thank you. I really appreciate it.
Lisi


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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 17:33:04 Lisi wrote:
 machine .33 would be the third  DHCP number allocated by the router.  It
 does not currently exist.  I could find three machines to connect by DHCP,
 if the third would make a difference of some kind!

I hang my head in shame! :-(

All that was needed was the installation of openssh-server and a better memory 
on my part.  (I had intended to change from the default  Debian choice of 
DHCP  - and thought that I had done so.)  Not mention reading the output 
before I post it.

Thanks Jochem for solving the problem, Camaleón for spotting my error over IPs 
and all of you, including Frank and shawn, for your remarkable patience.

I am truly contrite about the noise. :-(

An exam is involved in this - I need ot be able to access one machine from 
another, and I always panic about exams. :-(  Yes, it is remarkably stupid to 
be panicking at my age about an exam whose result really doesn't matter in 
the great scheme of things, but my irrational self still wins. :-(

I apologise profusely.

Lisi


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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 17:20:48 Camaleón wrote:
 But there is no Spanish Spanish just a Spanish that is spoken in
 __ (put here the country) ;-)

Quite - the English that is talked in England.  And that is what I meant and 
said! 

And there _is_ a Spanish that is talked in Spain, which is different from that 
talked in e.g. Chile.

Lisi


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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

2011-04-03 Thread Ron Johnson

On 04/03/2011 04:24 AM, Heddle Weaver wrote:
[snip]


The logical progression, in the English language and not the American
dialect, is 'day' of the 'month' of the specified 'year'. dd/mm/yy.
This is obvious.


Only obvious if you've grown up that way.

However, 3 Jan 2011 *slightly* reduces confusion in people with bad 
handwriting because  Jan 3, 2011 can look like Jan 3,2011.


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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution

2011-04-03 Thread Ron Johnson

On 04/03/2011 07:18 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:19:49 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:


On 2011-04-02, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/01/2011 07:20 AM, Camaleón wrote:

--- SNIP ---

Here in Spain we celebrate it on December 28th instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day#Other_prank_days_in_the_world



What part of Cultural Imperialism don't you understand???

:)



A Spaniard would be vaguely familiar with the concept ;-)


And I'd have to say that *sadly* (IMO, nothing to be proud about) yes, we
do are ;-(



Any expanding civilization engages in Cultural Imperialism.  W/o it, we 
wouldn't be here using using computers and (where it's hot) availing 
ourselves of air conditioning.


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Kernel trace, how to debug?

2011-04-03 Thread David Sastre
Hello,

I got a kernel trace related to some I/O error.
I'd like to debug it further, but don't not how to proceed.
I have some basic gdb skills, but the pkg involved is the kernel, so
I can't just run 'gdb executable trace'...

The trace looks like this:

2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554092] [ cut 
here ]
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554096] WARNING: at 
/build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.32-30-i386-UYhWt7/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_i386_none/fs/buffer.c:1160
 mark_buffer_dirty+0x20/0x7a()
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554098] Hardware name: 
P55-US3L
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554099] Modules linked in: 
tun ipt_REJECT xt_tcpudp iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables dahdi_echocan_oslec 
echo wcfxo dahdi crc_ccitt ppdev lp kvm_intel kvm binfmt_misc fuse bridge stp 
loop saa7134_alsa tda10048 saa7134_dvb videobuf_dvb dvb_core 
snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_realtek tda18271 tda8290 joydev tuner 
usbhid hid snd_hda_intel saa7134 sg snd_hda_codec ir_common sr_mod v4l2_common 
videodev snd_hwdep snd_pcm_oss v4l1_compat videobuf_dma_sg snd_seq_midi 
snd_mixer_oss videobuf_core snd_rawmidi snd_pcm r8169 snd_seq_midi_event cdrom 
usb_storage snd_seq ata_generic uhci_hcd snd_timer ehci_hcd mii tulip tveeprom 
ata_piix usbcore snd_seq_device ahci fglrx(P) snd serio_raw pata_jmicron 
soundcore snd_page_alloc nls_base pcspkr i2c_i801 i2c_core evdev processor 
button parport_pc parport ext3 jbd mbcache dm_mod raid1 md_mod sd_mod 
crc_t10dif sata_via libata scsi_mod thermal thermal_sys
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554140] Pid: 18351, comm: 
amarok Tainted: P   2.6.32-5-686-bigmem #1
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554142] Call Trace:
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554146]  [c103652d] ? 
warn_slowpath_common+0x5e/0x8a
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554148]  [c1036563] ? 
warn_slowpath_null+0xa/0xc
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554150]  [c10d5528] ? 
mark_buffer_dirty+0x20/0x7a
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554157]  [f8307fac] ? 
ext3_commit_super+0x40/0x56 [ext3]
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554162]  [f8309516] ? 
ext3_handle_error+0x6e/0x8e [ext3]
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554166]  [f83095df] ? 
ext3_error+0x3a/0x40 [ext3]
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554172]  [f8303401] ? 
ext3_free_branches+0xa3/0x1e9 [ext3]
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554178]  [f8303a33] ? 
ext3_truncate+0x4ec/0x70c [ext3]
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554182]  [f82c8a97] ? 
journal_stop+0x254/0x260 [jbd]
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554187]  [f83041b9] ? 
ext3_write_begin+0x1ac/0x1d2 [ext3]
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554191]  [c108e657] ? 
generic_file_buffered_write+0xd0/0x21d
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554194]  [c108eba1] ? 
__generic_file_aio_write+0x265/0x28d
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554197]  [c10c92d6] ? 
touch_atime+0x69/0xd9
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554199]  [c108ec1a] ? 
generic_file_aio_write+0x51/0x93
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554202]  [c10ba776] ? 
do_sync_write+0xc0/0x107
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554205]  [c10bd4eb] ? 
cp_new_stat64+0xf7/0x109
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554208]  [c104a322] ? 
autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x2d
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554211]  [c10bda3f] ? 
sys_fstat64+0x1e/0x23
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554214]  [c1109ce8] ? 
security_file_permission+0xc/0xd
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554216]  [c10ba6b6] ? 
do_sync_write+0x0/0x107
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554217]  [c10bb0a2] ? 
vfs_write+0x7e/0xd6
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554219]  [c10bb192] ? 
sys_write+0x3c/0x63
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554222]  [c100813b] ? 
sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28
2011-04-03T18:36:32+02:00 jethro kernel: : [24521.554223] ---[ end trace 
20f4b55a0560b754 ]---

FWIW, I have dbg symbols installed for this kernel:

ii  linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem   2.6.32-30   Linux 
2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM
ii  linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem-dbg   2.6.32-31   
Debugging infos for Linux 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:33:04 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Sunday 03 April 2011 16:52:14 Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 And also the reverse, from Dozy try to ping Tux (ping -c 3
 192.168.0.2).
 
 Wow!  Could you explain how you knew that?  I might recognise it myself
 another time!!

I've just read that you finally put all the pieces of the puzzle in the 
right order by yourself :-)

I noticed something wrong when Shawn cleverly asked you for the result of 
ip addr command. There you can see the real IPs for the machines:

- Tux was 192.168.0.2
- Junior was out (no result from ip adrr)
- Dozy was 192.168.0.33

There was no track for 192.168.0.3 nor 192.168.0.8 (the first hosts 
you wanted to reach) so the only thing we could do was trying to ping the 
hosts with known IP addresses and hope the results of that test 
provided any additional clue... which finally did.

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Re: ssh between computers on my home network

2011-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 April 2011 18:20:37 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:33:04 +0100, Lisi wrote:
  On Sunday 03 April 2011 16:52:14 Camaleón wrote:

 (...)

  And also the reverse, from Dozy try to ping Tux (ping -c 3
  192.168.0.2).
 
  Wow!  Could you explain how you knew that?  I might recognise it myself
  another time!!

 I've just read that you finally put all the pieces of the puzzle in the
 right order by yourself :-)

 I noticed something wrong when Shawn cleverly asked you for the result of
 ip addr command. There you can see the real IPs for the machines:

 - Tux was 192.168.0.2
 - Junior was out (no result from ip adrr)
 - Dozy was 192.168.0.33

 There was no track for 192.168.0.3 nor 192.168.0.8 (the first hosts
 you wanted to reach) so the only thing we could do was trying to ping the
 hosts with known IP addresses and hope the results of that test
 provided any additional clue... which finally did.

Thanks yet again, Camaleón! :-)  A lucid explanation.

Lisi


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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

2011-04-03 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 02:06, Scott Ferguson
prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:

 Out of curiosity - I've attached a (tiny) screenscrape of how a post
 appears in Thunderbird (yeah I know, but the rest of things are Debian).
 I guess the date format on the left is from the list, and the one on the
 right is from my system... are my assumptions correct? Also - is that
 how others have their dates displayed?

The date in the email is created by the *senders* MUA. In some MUAs at
least, you can change how it gets written out. I think many MUAs default
this to the long date format from (sender's) locale. The other is set by
*your* MUA, and it is probably set to time or short date for your locale
by default.


On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 02:24, Heddle Weaver weaver2wo...@gmail.com wrote:

 The logical progression, in the English language and not the American
 dialect, is 'day' of the 'month' of the specified 'year'. dd/mm/yy.
 This is obvious.
 Anything else is the calender equivalent of top-posting.

No, little-endian is always the equivalent of top posting (middle-endian
(American date style) is just madness). Is the month or the exact day
relevant if you are off by years? Just as numerical representation in
little-endian is backwards. If you write one hundred forty five as 541,
it makes no sense. 5 is not very important compared to one hundred,
so why put it at the beginning?

Oh, and the only possible excuse for yy instead of  is if you where
writing before the year one hundred, although even then it should have
been clear that that wouldn't be useful for long. Actually, A.D./B.C. wasn't
created until 525, so that isn't possible in our calendar system. Hmm, I
wonder if any calendar system has been in use since it's own year one?
Probably only ones based on kings' reigns.

And while we are at it, we should probably give some thought to the future
and extend our years to at least y (e.g. 02011 for this year). That would
at least give us nearly ninety-eight thousand years instead of a mere eight
thousand.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

2011-04-03 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:10, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 handwriting

What's that?

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Debian Newbie need help - belated thank you to all

2011-04-03 Thread p3qwestra
I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to say thank you to all of 
you who offered some guidance - pressure of obligations in may 
areas cut into my time somewhat. I have decided to give Debian a 
miss yet again. I really is a bit too cumbersome. I am not new to 
computing with over 30 years experience. A lot of that was as a 
system support programmer on large mainframes, programming in HEX 
and Assembler, so heaven help an absolute beginner.

I've got Fedora doing what I need for now and use Puppy 4 to rescue 
family and friends who have managed to mess up Windows.  I still 
think that all distros ought to take a leaf from Puppy's book and 
give the graphics options on the setup screen. Puppy, so far, 
manages to identify both card and monitor capabilities correctly.

Regards,

P3qwestra


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