Re: wakeup avec clavier et souris USB

2011-05-01 Thread Mahashakti89
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Le 30 Apr 2011 18:31:33 GMT,
moi-meme chie...@free.fr a �crit :

 Le Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:00:01 +0200, mahashakti89 a écrit :
 
  J'ai cherché, il semble qu'il faille intervenir sur le fichier
  /proc/acpi/wakeup où presque totu est disabled. Comment passer à
  enabled ??  - un #echo USB2  /proc/acpi/wakeup par exemple me
  renvoie une erreur le fichier existe déjà.Est-ce la bonne
  méthode ?
 
 --[moi@crunchbang ~] cat /proc/acpi/wakeup 
 Device  S-state   Status   Sysfs node
 PCI0  S4 disabled  no-bus:pci:00
 PCI1  S4 disabled  pci::00:01.0
 PCI2  S4 disabled  pci::00:1e.0
 UAR1  S4 disabled  pnp:00:0a
 USB0  S4 disabled  pci::00:1f.2
 USB1  S4 disabled  pci::00:1f.4
 
 AMHA c'est pas ce qu'il faut faire.
 Peut-être quelque chose du côté de /etc/acpi.
 mais je ne vois pas de wakeup chez moi
 
Merci de la réponse.
Rien trouvé de probant dans /etc/acpi ...

Cordialement

mahashakti89
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Re: versioning system (VCS)

2011-05-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 09:23:40PM +0200, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit :
 
 On ne peut donc pas supprimer des commits. On peut tout au plus
 modifier certains (ou tous les) fichiers (gérés par le versionneurs)
 pour qu'ils reviennent dans l'état où ils était il y a (par exemple) un
 moins. Ensuite, on va par exemple commit-er ce nouvel état là. Mais le
 versionneur a bien enregistré tous les états commit-és par définition
 même.

Bonjour,

Git peut supprimer des commits, c'est à dire réécrire l'histoire, par exemple
avec les commandes rebase et filter-branch.

On s'en sert par exemple pour rendre plus synthétique un changement développé
en privé, pour effacer définitivement un fichier trop gros après s'être mordu
les doigts de l'avoir inclus, ou pour oublier entièrement un fichier dont on
s'aperçoit longtemps après l'avoir ajouté qu'il n'était pas redistribuable, et
caetera.

C'est bien sûr une utilisation avancée qu'il n'est pas nécessaire de maîtriser
au début.

Bon dimanche,

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Re: whois IP ne répond plus

2011-05-01 Thread corbie
  Je suis chez Bouygues Télécom.

 À ma connaissance, ce fournisseur pas terrible ne fournit pas
 IPv6. Incroyable en 2011, mais ça arrive.
-
  Comment fait-on pour activer l'IPV6 ?

 On ne peut pas, c'est au FAI de le faire.
---
  sous Google, il n'y a que des rubriques désactiver.

 Hélas, chez un fournisseur aussi en retard, qui n'a toujours pas IPv6,
 désactiver IPv6 sur vos machines est sans doute la solution la plus
 simple (autre solution : installer un tunnel avec Hurricane
 Electric http://www.bortzmeyer.org/ipv6-he.html).
-

Bonjour,

Pourtant si je tape :

$ ifconfig |grep inet6
--
adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
adr inet6: fe80::227:19ff:fac7:6907/64 Scope:Lien

Il semble que Bouygues Télécom a bien activé l'IPv6 ...


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Re: versioning system (VCS)

2011-05-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:23:20PM +0200,
 Aéris ae...@imirhil.fr wrote 
 a message of 33 lines which said:

  http://www.bortzmeyer.org/time-and-space-in-vcs.html
 
 Certes mais c'est très fortement conseillé?

Non, pour les raisons expliquées dans l'article que je cite. D'autre
part, avec les VCS décentralsiés comme git, chaque copie de travail
contient *tout* l'historique, ce qui est un « gaspillage » bien
pire. Enfin, comparez la taille du dépôt d'un VCS de codes sources
avec celles des vidéos qu'on trouve aujourd'hui sur tous les disques
durs et vous verrez que ce n'est pas le VCS qu'il faut optimiser...

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Re: whois IP ne répond plus

2011-05-01 Thread Erwan David
Le Sun  1/05/2011, cor...@free.fr disait
   Je suis chez Bouygues Télécom.
 
  À ma connaissance, ce fournisseur pas terrible ne fournit pas
  IPv6. Incroyable en 2011, mais ça arrive.
 -
   Comment fait-on pour activer l'IPV6 ?
 
  On ne peut pas, c'est au FAI de le faire.
 ---
   sous Google, il n'y a que des rubriques désactiver.
 
  Hélas, chez un fournisseur aussi en retard, qui n'a toujours pas IPv6,
  désactiver IPv6 sur vos machines est sans doute la solution la plus
  simple (autre solution : installer un tunnel avec Hurricane
  Electric http://www.bortzmeyer.org/ipv6-he.html).
 -
 
 Bonjour,
 
 Pourtant si je tape :
 
 $ ifconfig |grep inet6
 --
 adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
 adr inet6: fe80::227:19ff:fac7:6907/64 Scope:Lien
 
 Il semble que Bouygues Télécom a bien activé l'IPv6 ...

Non. Ça ce sont des adresses que la machine se donne toute seule comme une
grande...

::1 c'est l'équivalent du 127.0.0.1 en IPv4 une adresse de portée lien
(pourquoi traduire link et pas scope ?) est proche d'un 169.254.x.y en IPv4
(mais pas équivalent, cette adresse est toujours là dès que IPv6 est activé)

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Re: versioning system (VCS)

2011-05-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 09:23:40PM +0200,
 Basile Starynkevitch bas...@starynkevitch.net wrote 
 a message of 88 lines which said:

 Et surtout, ça n'a aucun sens de virer des commits: sauf dans les
 régimes staliniens, on ne ré-écrit pas l'Histoire.

Il existe plusieurs cas où c'est utile, le plus évident étant
lorsqu'on a commité dans un dépôt public un fichier qu'on n'avait pas
le droit de distribuer. C'est pourquoi tous les VCS disposent de
mécanismes « staliniens », plus ou moins pratiques. Par exemple pour
Subversion :

http://subversion.apache.org/faq.html#removal

Un autre exemple d'une bonne raison :

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/205296/delete-file-contents-from-svn-history

Mais je suis d'accord qu'il s'agit d'opérations exceptionnelles,
réservées aux cas où on a fait une grosse bêtise. Le style de travail
que décrivait Jean-Yves F. Barbier, à coup de réécriture systématique
de l'histoire, est en effet surprenant, et certainement mal géré par
les VCS existants.

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Re: whois IP ne répond plus

2011-05-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 10:46:07AM +0200,
 cor...@free.fr cor...@free.fr wrote 
 a message of 37 lines which said:

 $ ifconfig |grep inet6
 --
 adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
 adr inet6: fe80::227:19ff:fac7:6907/64 Scope:Lien
 
 Il semble que Bouygues Télécom a bien activé l'IPv6 ...

Non, pas du tout. Il s'agit uniquement d'adresses locales (lisez le
champ Scope). Voici ce qu'on a chez un fournisseur qui a IPv6 :

%  ifconfig |grep inet6
  inet6 addr: 2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:c184:a11c:a961:2072/64 Scope:Global
  inet6 addr: 2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:21e:8cff:fe76:29b6/64 Scope:Global
  inet6 addr: fe80::21e:8cff:fe76:29b6/64 Scope:Link
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host

Mais cela n'explique pas le comportement de whois. Si vous n'avez que
des adresses locales, whois ne devrait pas essayer de se connecter en
IPv6 (et,sauf erreur, getaddrinfo() ne devrait même pas demander
d'adresses v6). Que contient la table de routage ('netstat -r -A
inet6') ?

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Re: versioning system (VCS)

2011-05-01 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On Sun, 1 May 2011 10:52:56 +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer steph...@sources.org
wrote:

... 
 Mais je suis d'accord qu'il s'agit d'opérations exceptionnelles,
 réservées aux cas où on a fait une grosse bêtise. Le style de travail
 que décrivait Jean-Yves F. Barbier, à coup de réécriture systématique
 de l'histoire, est en effet surprenant, et certainement mal géré par
 les VCS existants.

En fait, je 'gadais plutôt la taille globale et le nombre de commits 
sur le principe: plucékyena moincékyadlaplace, mais grâce aux commentaires
de Basile et avec quelques lectures en sus, j'ai découvert qu'entre les
différentes méthodes de type diff et la compression mon inquiétude était
sans fondement.

Par exemple, la méthode delta de Fossil:
http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/delta_encoder_algorithm.wiki
donne des résultats impressionnants adossée à zlib: 
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/stats.wiki

De plus la facilité d'utilisation en fait un outil simple et puissant; 
il assure même la sécurité: après un commit j'ai renommé mon trunk/
en trunk_OFF/ pour voir, dès que j'ai relancé Fossil il a reconstitué
trunk/!

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Re: versioning system (VCS)

2011-05-01 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On Sun, 1 May 2011 10:52:56 +0200
Stephane Bortzmeyer steph...@sources.org wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 09:23:40PM +0200,
  Basile Starynkevitch bas...@starynkevitch.net wrote 
  a message of 88 lines which said:
 
  Et surtout, ça n'a aucun sens de virer des commits: sauf dans les
  régimes staliniens, on ne ré-écrit pas l'Histoire.
 
 Il existe plusieurs cas où c'est utile, le plus évident étant
 lorsqu'on a commité dans un dépôt public un fichier qu'on n'avait pas
 le droit de distribuer. C'est pourquoi tous les VCS disposent de
 mécanismes « staliniens », plus ou moins pratiques. [...]

 Mais je suis d'accord qu'il s'agit d'opérations exceptionnelles,
 réservées aux cas où on a fait une grosse bêtise. 

Oui, je suis d'accord, et dans un autre message j'avais évoqué la
manière de GIT pour ce faire. Mais moi même, je n'ai *jamais* eu besoin
de ré-ecrire l'histoire (mais j'ai dû une fois aider un collègue qui
avant mis sous Svn un fichier qui n'avait rien à voir...).

 Le style de travail que décrivait Jean-Yves F. Barbier, à coup de réécriture 
 systématique
 de l'histoire, est en effet surprenant, et certainement mal géré par
 les VCS existants.

Tout à fait, et Jean-Yves m'a laissé l'impression de ne pas bien
comprendre comment la plupart des développeurs utilisent les VCS.
J'espère que nous aurions un peu réussi à changer sa façon de voir...

Cordialement
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Re: whois IP ne répond plus

2011-05-01 Thread corbie
  $ ifconfig |grep inet6
  --
  adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
  adr inet6: fe80::227:19ff:fac7:6907/64 Scope:Lien
  Il semble que Bouygues Télécom a bien activé l'IPv6 ...

 Non, pas du tout. Il s'agit uniquement d'adresses locales (lisez le
 champ Scope). Voici ce qu'on a chez un fournisseur qui a IPv6 :

 %  ifconfig |grep inet6
   inet6 addr: 2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:c184:a11c:a961:2072/64 Scope:Global
   inet6 addr: 2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:21e:8cff:fe76:29b6/64 Scope:Global
   inet6 addr: fe80::21e:8cff:fe76:29b6/64 Scope:Link
   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host

Debian-Lenny active l'IPv6, mais pas BT ?

 Mais cela n'explique pas le comportement de whois. Si vous n'avez que
 des adresses locales, whois ne devrait pas essayer de se connecter en
 IPv6 (et,sauf erreur, getaddrinfo() ne devrait même pas demander
 d'adresses v6). Que contient la table de routage
 ('netstat -r -A inet6') ?

# netstat -r -A inet6
--
Table de routage IPv6 du noyau
DestinationNext Hop   Flag Met Ref Use If
fe80::/64  :: U256 0 0 wlan0
::/0   :: !n   -1  113 lo
::1/128:: Un   0   1 2 lo
fe80::227:19ff:feb7:6906/128   :: Un   0   1 0 lo
ff00::/8   :: U256 0 0 wlan0
::/0   :: !n   -1  113 lo
--

Merci.


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Re: wakeup avec clavier et souris USB

2011-05-01 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 1 mai 2011 à 08:41:01, Mahashakti89 a écrit :
 Le 30 Apr 2011 18:31:33 GMT,
 
 moi-meme chie...@free.fr a �crit :
  Le Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:00:01 +0200, mahashakti89 a écrit :
   J'ai cherché, il semble qu'il faille intervenir sur le
   fichier /proc/acpi/wakeup où presque totu est
   disabled. Comment passer à enabled ??  - un #echo
   USB2  /proc/acpi/wakeup par exemple me renvoie une
   erreur le fichier existe déjà.Est-ce la bonne méthode
   ?
[…]
  AMHA c'est pas ce qu'il faut faire.

  Normalement, c’est dans le BIOS que ça se passe.
  Si tu actives le réveil par clavier dans le BIOS, la ligne 
PS2K passe à enabled. Évidemment, il faut avoir l’option…

  /proc/acpi/wakup ne fait que résumer ce que la machine peut 
faire. (Ce qui suit une certaine logique puisque la machine est 
« éteinte » quand on veut la réveiler. Linux n’y peut pas grand-
chose à ce moment-là. Et les accès en écriture au BIOS sont très 
limités.)

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Re: wakeup avec clavier et souris USB

2011-05-01 Thread Thibault Dupuis

Le 01/05/2011 16:06, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :

Le dimanche 1 mai 2011 à 08:41:01, Mahashakti89 a écrit :

Le 30 Apr 2011 18:31:33 GMT,

moi-memechie...@free.fr  a �crit :

Le Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:00:01 +0200, mahashakti89 a écrit :

J'ai cherché, il semble qu'il faille intervenir sur le
fichier /proc/acpi/wakeup où presque totu est
disabled. Comment passer à enabled ??  - un #echo
USB2  /proc/acpi/wakeup par exemple me renvoie une
erreur le fichier existe déjà.Est-ce la bonne méthode
?

[…]

AMHA c'est pas ce qu'il faut faire.

   Normalement, c’est dans le BIOS que ça se passe.
   Si tu actives le réveil par clavier dans le BIOS, la ligne
PS2K passe à enabled. Évidemment, il faut avoir l’option…

   /proc/acpi/wakup ne fait que résumer ce que la machine peut
faire. (Ce qui suit une certaine logique puisque la machine est
« éteinte » quand on veut la réveiler. Linux n’y peut pas grand-
chose à ce moment-là. Et les accès en écriture au BIOS sont très
limités.)


Bonjour,

Je suis d'accord avec ce qui vient d'être dit. La possibilité de réveil 
via le clavier ou la souris ne sont des options qui ne se configure que 
dans le BIOS. L'OS n'intervient en aucun cas.


Cordialement.

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Re: wakeup avec clavier et souris USB

2011-05-01 Thread mahashakti89

On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 04:06:51PM +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:

Le dimanche 1 mai 2011 à 08:41:01, Mahashakti89 a écrit :

Le 30 Apr 2011 18:31:33 GMT,

moi-meme chie...@free.fr a �crit :
 Le Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:00:01 +0200, mahashakti89 a écrit :
  J'ai cherché, il semble qu'il faille intervenir sur le
  fichier /proc/acpi/wakeup où presque totu est
  disabled. Comment passer à enabled ??  - un #echo
  USB2  /proc/acpi/wakeup par exemple me renvoie une
  erreur le fichier existe déjà.Est-ce la bonne méthode
  ?
[…]
 AMHA c'est pas ce qu'il faut faire.


 Normalement, c’est dans le BIOS que ça se passe.
 Si tu actives le réveil par clavier dans le BIOS, la ligne
PS2K passe à enabled. Évidemment, il faut avoir l’option…

 /proc/acpi/wakup ne fait que résumer ce que la machine peut
faire. (Ce qui suit une certaine logique puisque la machine est
« éteinte » quand on veut la réveiler. Linux n’y peut pas grand-
chose à ce moment-là. Et les accès en écriture au BIOS sont très
limités.)

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Oui, le réveil par clavier est bien sûr activé dans le BIOS, mais je me
demandais si cela était valable uniquement pour les claviers PS2 .

Cordialement

mahashakti89


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Re: wakeup avec clavier et souris USB

2011-05-01 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 1 mai 2011 à 18:01:36, mahashakti89 a écrit :
 On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 04:06:51PM +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage 
wrote:
[…]
   Normalement, c’est dans le BIOS que ça se passe.
   Si tu actives le réveil par clavier dans le BIOS, la ligne
  PS2K passe à enabled. Évidemment, il faut avoir l’option…
[…] 
 Oui, le réveil par clavier est bien sûr activé dans le BIOS,
 mais je me demandais si cela était valable uniquement pour
 les claviers PS2 .

  J’ai mis PS2K comme exemple. Et, oui, cette option ne 
fonctionne normalement qu’avec un clavier PS2.

  Pour l’USB, je pense que tout événement USB peut réveiller la 
machine. En général, c’est un clavier… Mais c’est dans le BIOS 
que ça se configure. Peut-être que certains BIOS ont plus 
d’option sur la nature des événements reconnus et peut-être que 
certains ne proposent qu’une option « clavier » pour PS2 et USB 
mais /proc/acpi/wakup doit permettre de faire le tri sur ce que 
signifie l’option (et un simple test aussi ;o).

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Re: wakeup avec clavier et souris USB

2011-05-01 Thread mahashakti89

On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:13:30PM +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:

Le dimanche 1 mai 2011 à 18:01:36, mahashakti89 a écrit :

On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 04:06:51PM +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage

wrote:

[…]
  Normalement, c’est dans le BIOS que ça se passe.
  Si tu actives le réveil par clavier dans le BIOS, la ligne
 PS2K passe à enabled. Évidemment, il faut avoir l’option…
[…]
Oui, le réveil par clavier est bien sûr activé dans le BIOS,
mais je me demandais si cela était valable uniquement pour
les claviers PS2 .


 J’ai mis PS2K comme exemple. Et, oui, cette option ne
fonctionne normalement qu’avec un clavier PS2.

 Pour l’USB, je pense que tout événement USB peut réveiller la
machine. En général, c’est un clavier… Mais c’est dans le BIOS
que ça se configure. Peut-être que certains BIOS ont plus
d’option sur la nature des événements reconnus et peut-être que
certains ne proposent qu’une option « clavier » pour PS2 et USB
mais /proc/acpi/wakup doit permettre de faire le tri sur ce que
signifie l’option (et un simple test aussi ;o).

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Je viens de vérifier dans le manuel de la carte-mère, c'est pévu pour
les claviers PS2 ... pas de mention de l'USB. Les options USB ne
donnent rien.

Cordialement


mahashakti89

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Squeeze, RAID1, LVM: où mettre /boot ?

2011-05-01 Thread giggz
Bonsoir à tous,

je viens de faire une install normale de squeeze amd64 sur mon nouveau
pc. C'est la première fois que je fais du RAID logiciel (RAID1) et du
LVM...donc j'ai besoin d'aide.

J'ai procédé comme suit:
sur mes 2 disques de 1T j'ai créé une partition primaire de la taille du
disque. J'ai configuré en RAID. ensuite dans la config du RAID j'ai
choisi RAID1.

Je me suis ensuite attaqué à LVM. J'ai configuré un volume. et la dedans
j'ai créé des volumes logiques pour chaque partitions: /boot, /, /usr,
/var, /tmp, /home.

J'ai fait l'install. ça fonctionne.

Mais à l'arret, je vois rapidement un message d'erreur du LVM qui
n'arrive pas à s'arreter correctement...et au boot ensuite j'ai un
message d'erreur du RAID qui me dit que le statut n'est pas OK.

Quelles commandes puis je utiliser pour en savoir plus ?

Merci d'avance
Guillaume

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Re: whois IP ne répond plus

2011-05-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 12:43:16PM +0200,
 cor...@free.fr cor...@free.fr wrote 
 a message of 57 lines which said:

 Debian-Lenny active l'IPv6, mais pas BT ?

En effet.

 # netstat -r -A inet6
 --
 Table de routage IPv6 du noyau
 DestinationNext Hop   Flag Met Ref Use If
 fe80::/64  :: U256 0 0 
 wlan0
 ::/0   :: !n   -1  113 lo
 ::1/128:: Un   0   1 2 lo
 fe80::227:19ff:feb7:6906/128   :: Un   0   1 0 lo
 ff00::/8   :: U256 0 0 
 wlan0
 ::/0   :: !n   -1  113 lo
 --

Pas de route par défaut (ce qui est normal si le FAI ne fait pas
d'IPv6). Et pas d'adresse IPv6 globale (même remarque). Donc, whois
devrait essayer uniquement en IPv4. Je ne comprends pas, je pense
qu'il manque quelque chose dans les informations que nous avons. Et en
ne chargeant pas du tout le module noyau Linux ipv6 ?

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Re: whois IP ne répond plus

2011-05-01 Thread corbie
Le dimanche 1 mai 2011, vous avez écrit :
 Pas de route par défaut (ce qui est normal si le FAI ne fait pas
 d'IPv6). Et pas d'adresse IPv6 globale (même remarque). Donc, whois
 devrait essayer uniquement en IPv4. Je ne comprends pas, je pense
 qu'il manque quelque chose dans les informations que nous avons. Et en
 ne chargeant pas du tout le module noyau Linux ipv6 ?


A quoi bon ... si BT n'active pas l'IPv6,
vais leur demander ...

Je sais que des entreprises revendent des centaines de milliers d'IPv4,
permettant de gagner un peu de temps ... :
http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/revente-d-adresses-ipv4-microsoft-debourse-75-millions-de-dollars-39759394.htm


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Re: Squeeze, RAID1, LVM: où mettre /boot ?

2011-05-01 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 01/05/2011 20:23, giggz a écrit :

Bonsoir à tous,


Bonsoir


[...]
Mais à l'arret, je vois rapidement un message d'erreur du LVM qui
n'arrive pas à s'arreter correctement...et au boot ensuite j'ai un
message d'erreur du RAID qui me dit que le statut n'est pas OK.

Quelles commandes puis je utiliser pour en savoir plus ?


Après le démarrage

1. dmesg
2. cat /proc/mdstat

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Re: solidaridad con los cubanos

2011-05-01 Thread Tio Oscar
El 1 de mayo de 2011 01:56, Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com escribió:



 El 30 de abril de 2011 07:14, Juan Antonio push...@limbo.ari.esescribió:

 El 30/04/11 08:56, BasaBuru escribió:
  Aupa:
 
  Agradecería que todo aquel que no este por la labor de ayudar a los
 cubanos se
  abstubiera de decir tonterías sin conocimiento de causa. Esto solo
 genera
  flames.
 
  Yo me ofrezco a planchar los dvd,s (si es que tenéis lectores de dvd) o
 los 48
  discos CD. Y mandarlos por correo.
 
  No os preocupéis por el coste me salen a 0.8 centimos el disco
 
  Así como documentación que os parezca necesaria. Tengo varios cientos de
  libros en formato digital. Me decís el tema y os los mando.
 
  Mandadme un privado y vemos como organizarlo.
 
  Un abrazo revolucionario
 
  BasaBuru
 
 

 Tu preocupate que de los cubanos, que si eres español a ver quién se
 preocupará de ti en un par de años.

 Y hablando de decir tonterias, decir Un abrazo revolucionario en un
 contexto en el que la revolución esta causando la molestia a estos
 usuarios no es que sea muy sensato.

 Un saludo.

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 Cuando un cree que lo ha visto todo sale Juan.. a decirte a quien debes y
 como enviar un abrazo!

 Voy a averiguar cuanto cuesta enviar CD y DVD a Cuba desde aquí de
 Venezuela, para ver si me puedo unir a esta causa.


 Un abrazo revolucionario para Juan desde aqui de Venezuela!

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Obviamente también soy un ignorante del estado actual de Cuba en cuanto a
tecnología, ni del acceso a la tecnología con el que cuentan, pero creo que
estaría bueno hacer alguna red alternativa a internet, acá en Argentina hay
una bastante extensa llamada Buenos Aires Libre[1] que básicamente es una
red que interconecta nodos y usa la frecuencia de 2600-2700MHz (frecuencia
libre), en la que cualquiera puede montar un nodo y conectarse, y bueno, se
hace todo a pulmón y y hay talleres muy buenos donde se enseñan a hacer
antenas hasta con envases usados[2], obviamente igual presenta un costo,
pero es una buena alternativa que se viene haciendo en varios paises, de esa
forma podrían tener repositorios accesibles desde esa red, sin depender del
acceso que les den los ISP/estado.

Talvez sea dificil, pero creo que es una posible solución.

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Re: solidaridad con los cubanos

2011-05-01 Thread BasaBuru
On Domingo 01 Mayo 2011 11:17:08 Tio Oscar escribió:

 Antes que nada pido un dont feed the troll[0], asi mantenemos limpio este
 tema.

Esa ha estado buenísima he hecho unas risas pensando en nuestros trolls y 
calculando cual es cual.

 Obviamente también soy un ignorante del estado actual de Cuba en cuanto a
 tecnología, ni del acceso a la tecnología con el que cuentan, pero creo que
 estaría bueno hacer alguna red alternativa a internet, acá en Argentina hay
 una bastante extensa llamada Buenos Aires Libre[1] que básicamente es una
 red que interconecta nodos y usa la frecuencia de 2600-2700MHz (frecuencia
 libre), en la que cualquiera puede montar un nodo y conectarse, y bueno, se
 hace todo a pulmón y y hay talleres muy buenos donde se enseñan a hacer
 antenas hasta con envases usados[2], obviamente igual presenta un costo,
 pero es una buena alternativa que se viene haciendo en varios paises, de
 esa forma podrían tener repositorios accesibles desde esa red, sin
 depender del acceso que les den los ISP/estado.

Si aquí tambien se montan con botes de patatas pringles las antenas. Y esta la 
red de las foneras también. Segun la nueva ley se puede motar una red 
comunitaria en un edificio.

Pero a tu argumento le falta una consideración, necesitan tarjetas wireless 
para acceder a los nodos ad-hoc. Así que creo que no es viable.

Mas bien una red de mirros con conexión telefonica por modem puede ser 
factible. Eso sí, hay que conseguir los modems... y yo creo saber donde 
están varios miles, es ir y preguntar si no los han tirado.

Un saludo

BasaBuru


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Re: solidaridad con los cubanos

2011-05-01 Thread Juan Antonio
El 01/05/11 06:56, Orlando Nuñez escribió:
 El 30 de abril de 2011 07:14, Juan Antonio push...@limbo.ari.es escribió:
 
 El 30/04/11 08:56, BasaBuru escribió:
 Aupa:

 Agradecería que todo aquel que no este por la labor de ayudar a los
 cubanos se
 abstubiera de decir tonterías sin conocimiento de causa. Esto solo genera
 flames.

 Yo me ofrezco a planchar los dvd,s (si es que tenéis lectores de dvd) o
 los 48
 discos CD. Y mandarlos por correo.

 No os preocupéis por el coste me salen a 0.8 centimos el disco

 Así como documentación que os parezca necesaria. Tengo varios cientos de
 libros en formato digital. Me decís el tema y os los mando.

 Mandadme un privado y vemos como organizarlo.

 Un abrazo revolucionario

 BasaBuru



 Tu preocupate que de los cubanos, que si eres español a ver quién se
 preocupará de ti en un par de años.

 Y hablando de decir tonterias, decir Un abrazo revolucionario en un
 contexto en el que la revolución esta causando la molestia a estos
 usuarios no es que sea muy sensato.

 Un saludo.

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 mantener viva mi inteligencia natural y fuera de serie, tengo que comer
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 Cuando un cree que lo ha visto todo sale Juan.. a decirte a quien debes y
 como enviar un abrazo!
 
 Voy a averiguar cuanto cuesta enviar CD y DVD a Cuba desde aquí de
 Venezuela, para ver si me puedo unir a esta causa.
 
 
 Un abrazo revolucionario para Juan desde aqui de Venezuela!
 

Si esa es la conclusión que sacas del párrafo caben dos opciones, a saber.

Tienes ocho años, lo que te convierte en un chaval muy precoz ya que
juegas con ordenadores y linux a tan temprana edad. Felicidades.

Tienes mas de quince pero tu cerebro no se ha desarrollado de la forma
en que debería lo que limita tu capacidad de síntesis y comprensión
lectora. Animo.

Por otra parte, teneis razón, es una gran idea y os animo a que
continueis con ella, y aun digo mas, sería un detallazo que también les
enviaseis vuestros ordenadores con debian preinstalado, y el detalle no
sería solo para el pueblo cubano ... ya me entiendes ... o no.

Un saludo.

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Re: Nautilus Elementary

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 01 May 2011 06:02:13 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió:

 El día 30 de abril de 2011 23:08, Camaleón escribió:

 Ejecuta un ls -l para ver qué archivos tienes donde estás ejecutando
 el /.configure.



 Lo bajé con bazaar desde el repositorio lp:nautilus elementary y lo
 dirigí a ese directorio para instalarlo desde las fuentes y como se
 indica en el archivo de instrucciones INSTALL. Si te fijas hay un scrip
 install-sh pero no se si funciona. Los archivos que tiene el directorio
 son:

(...)

Hum... no hay ningún archivo configure de ahí el error :-)

A ver, si vamos a este enlace:

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementaryart/nautilus-elementary/nautilus-elementary-2.30/files

Vemos que hay un script configure por ahí, pero ¿cómo se descarga todo 
en .tar-gz? No sé cómo va esto del repo baazar :-?

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Re: solidaridad con los cubanos

2011-05-01 Thread ceduard0
El 30 de abril de 2011 01:56, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió:

 Aupa:

 Agradecería que todo aquel que no este por la labor de ayudar a los cubanos
 se
 abstubiera de decir tonterías sin conocimiento de causa. Esto solo genera
 flames.

 Yo me ofrezco a planchar los dvd,s (si es que tenéis lectores de dvd) o los
 48
 discos CD. Y mandarlos por correo.

 No os preocupéis por el coste me salen a 0.8 centimos el disco


Helo, la idea de los CD es interesante, pero ¿A cuantos anudarías?, a lo que
voy es que se podría organizar algo mas grande diría yo. No se como sea la
situación en las Universidades de Cuba, sin embargo por medio de los cubanos
que escriben a la lista solicitando colaboración, podríamos buscar contacto
con alguien en una o varias Universidades con el fin de centralizar el envio
de los DVD o CDs o HDD.

A lo que voy es que si los usuarios de Linux Debian se organizan de tal
forma que en colaboración con las Universidades podrían montar un servidor
de repositorios el cual podríamos estarles mandando las actualizaciones e
cierto lapso de tiempo, existen formas de configurar servidores locales de
repositorios, solo faltan los paquetes, esos se los mandaríamos nosotros.

¿Por que no mandarlo a alguien en particular si no  a una universidad?, la
idea es ayudar a una comunidad.


Salu2.



 Así como documentación que os parezca necesaria. Tengo varios cientos de
 libros en formato digital. Me decís el tema y os los mando.

 Mandadme un privado y vemos como organizarlo.

 Un abrazo revolucionario

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Sin micrófono de la nada

2011-05-01 Thread Alejandro
Hola!

Bueno, hoy quería probar el servicio de Google Translate que permite
relaizar traducciones simplemente hablando y me di cuenta que no
funciona. Luego me fui al grabador de audioy me sale este mensaje

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8628/audiow.png

y la verdad es que he estado mirando los paquetes que comenta, pero
ninguno aparece en los repositorios =/
Alguien tiene ideas? el micrófono funcionaba hasta hace un par de
semanas, me fui de vacaciones y cuando volví hice un update y bueno,
algo habrá cambiado en eso...

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Re: Sin micrófono de la nada

2011-05-01 Thread AngelD

Sun, 1 May 2011, Alejandro:


Hola!

Bueno, hoy quería probar el servicio de Google Translate que permite
relaizar traducciones simplemente hablando y me di cuenta que no
funciona. Luego me fui al grabador de audioy me sale este mensaje

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8628/audiow.png

y la verdad es que he estado mirando los paquetes que comenta, pero
ninguno aparece en los repositorios =/
Alguien tiene ideas? el micrófono funcionaba hasta hace un par de
semanas, me fui de vacaciones y cuando volví hice un update y bueno,
algo habrá cambiado en eso...


	Me imagino que gst-plugins-good se refiere a 
[1]gstreamer0.10-plugins-good


 [1]http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good

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Re: Nautilus Elementary

2011-05-01 Thread J. OCTAVIO AVALOS
El día 1 de mayo de 2011 15:34, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sun, 01 May 2011 06:02:13 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió:

 El día 30 de abril de 2011 23:08, Camaleón escribió:

 Ejecuta un ls -l para ver qué archivos tienes donde estás ejecutando
 el /.configure.



 Lo bajé con bazaar desde el repositorio lp:nautilus elementary y lo
 dirigí a ese directorio para instalarlo desde las fuentes y como se
 indica en el archivo de instrucciones INSTALL. Si te fijas hay un scrip
 install-sh pero no se si funciona. Los archivos que tiene el directorio
 son:

 (...)

 Hum... no hay ningún archivo configure de ahí el error :-)

 A ver, si vamos a este enlace:

 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementaryart/nautilus-elementary/nautilus-elementary-2.30/files

 Vemos que hay un script configure por ahí, pero ¿cómo se descarga todo
 en .tar-gz? No sé cómo va esto del repo baazar :-?

 Saludos,

 --
 Camaleón


En mi caso lo que hice fue desde consola ejecutar:
$sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus
#bzr branch lp:nautilus-elementary/nautilus-elementary

Lo desconcertante es que en el archivo de instrucciones de instalación
indica el ./configure

Briefly, the shell commands `./configure; make; make install' should
configure, build, and install this package.  The following
more-detailed instructions are generic;
.../...
  The simplest way to compile this package is:

  1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
 `./configure' to configure the package for your system.

 Running `configure' might take a while.  While running, it prints
 some messages telling which features it is checking for.

  2. Type `make' to compile the package.

  3. Optionally, type `make check' to run any self-tests that come with
 the package, generally using the just-built uninstalled binaries.

  4. Type `make install' to install the programs and any data files and
 documentation.  When installing into a prefix owned by root, it is
 recommended that the package be configured and built as a regular
 user, and only the `make install' phase executed with root
 privileges.

  5. Optionally, type `make installcheck' to repeat any self-tests, but
 this time using the binaries in their final installed location.
 This target does not install anything.  Running this target as a
 regular user, particularly if the prior `make install' required
 root privileges, verifies that the installation completed
 correctly.

  6. You can remove the program binaries and object files from the
 source code directory by typing `make clean'.  To also remove the
 files that `configure' created (so you can compile the package for
 a different kind of computer), type `make distclean'.  There is
 also a `make maintainer-clean' target, but that is intended mainly
 for the package's developers.  If you use it, you may have to get
 all sorts of other programs in order to regenerate files that came
 with the distribution.

  7. Often, you can also type `make uninstall' to remove the installed
 files again.  In practice, not all packages have tested that
 uninstallation works correctly, even though it is required by the
 GNU Coding Standards.

  8. Some packages, particularly those that use Automake, provide `make
 distcheck', which can by used by developers to test that all other
 targets like `make install' and `make uninstall' work correctly.
 This target is generally not run by end users.

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Re: Sin micrófono de la nada

2011-05-01 Thread Alejandro
El día 1 de mayo de 2011 21:44, AngelD ang...@froga.net escribió:
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-good

Lo raro es que lo tengo instalado =/
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Re: Nautilus Elementary

2011-05-01 Thread J. OCTAVIO AVALOS
2011/5/1 J. OCTAVIO AVALOS octavioava...@gmail.com:
 El día 1 de mayo de 2011 15:34, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sun, 01 May 2011 06:02:13 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió:

 El día 30 de abril de 2011 23:08, Camaleón escribió:

 Ejecuta un ls -l para ver qué archivos tienes donde estás ejecutando
 el /.configure.



 Lo bajé con bazaar desde el repositorio lp:nautilus elementary y lo
 dirigí a ese directorio para instalarlo desde las fuentes y como se
 indica en el archivo de instrucciones INSTALL. Si te fijas hay un scrip
 install-sh pero no se si funciona. Los archivos que tiene el directorio
 son:

 (...)

 Hum... no hay ningún archivo configure de ahí el error :-)

 A ver, si vamos a este enlace:

 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementaryart/nautilus-elementary/nautilus-elementary-2.30/files

 Vemos que hay un script configure por ahí, pero ¿cómo se descarga todo
 en .tar-gz? No sé cómo va esto del repo baazar :-?

 Saludos,

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 En mi caso lo que hice fue desde consola ejecutar:
 $sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus
 #bzr branch lp:nautilus-elementary/nautilus-elementary


Conseguí bajar todos los archivo desde la dirección que me indicas con
el bazaar explorer, poniendo como origen de los datos la dirección que
me indicas y destino /home/nautilus-elementary-2.30/trunk
voy a probar ahora a ver si compila y finalmente lo instala.

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Re: Nautilus Elementary

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 01 May 2011 21:51:02 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió:

 El día 1 de mayo de 2011 15:34, Camaleón escribió:

 A ver, si vamos a este enlace:

 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementaryart/nautilus-elementary/nautilus-elementary-2.30/files

 Vemos que hay un script configure por ahí, pero ¿cómo se descarga
 todo en .tar-gz? No sé cómo va esto del repo baazar :-?


 En mi caso lo que hice fue desde consola ejecutar: 
 $sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus
 #bzr branch lp:nautilus-elementary/nautilus-elementary

¿Y qué es lo que haces exactamente con eso? Es decir, ¿te descarga algo 
en algún directorio? :-?

 Lo desconcertante es que en el archivo de instrucciones de instalación
 indica el ./configure

(...)

Como indican las instrucciones debería estar ese script pero no sé por 
qué no lo tienes :-?

(investigando...)

Oye, creo que al ejecutar el bzr con esa ruta (branch) estás descargando 
esto:

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementaryart/nautilus-elementary/2.31+/files

Pero me parece que Squeeze lleva GNOME 2.30 no la 2.31. Si te das cuenta, 
el enlace que te he puesto antes apunta a la 2.30 y sí tiene el script 
del configure pero... hum, no sé si te funcionará.

Es decir, entiendo que para usar la rama 2.30 tendrías que apuntar al repo 
ese del baazar de esta forma: 

bzr branch lp:nautilus-elementary/2.30

(si tienes alguna máquina virtual para probarlo antes ahí, mejor :-P)

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Re: Sin micrófono de la nada

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 01 May 2011 21:20:43 +0200, Alejandro escribió:

 Bueno, hoy quería probar el servicio de Google Translate que permite
 relaizar traducciones simplemente hablando y me di cuenta que no
 funciona. Luego me fui al grabador de audioy me sale este mensaje
 
 http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8628/audiow.png

(...)

Ahí va :-?

¿Y si lo ejecutas desde consola (gnome-sound-recorder)? Suele ser más 
verboso, por lo que quizá te dé alguna pista adicional.

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Re: Sin micrófono de la nada

2011-05-01 Thread Alejandro
El día 1 de mayo de 2011 22:26, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 gnome-sound-recorder

nada, sale la ventanita que mandé antes y me devuelve al prompt =/
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Re: Nautilus Elementary

2011-05-01 Thread J. OCTAVIO AVALOS
 Es decir, entiendo que para usar la rama 2.30 tendrías que apuntar al repo
 ese del baazar de esta forma:

 bzr branch lp:nautilus-elementary/2.30

 (si tienes alguna máquina virtual para probarlo antes ahí, mejor :-P)

Si, es lo que acabo de hacer ahora pero lo bajé con bazaar-explorer en
vez de con la linea de comandos. De esta forma entiendo que es como tu
dices pero con un guión medio en la versión:

bzr branch lp:nautilus-elementary-2.30/Directorio_Destino

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Re: OT: Libre Office sobre windows

2011-05-01 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El vie, 29-04-2011 a las 20:43 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió:
 El 29/04/2011 19:22, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió:
  El vie, 29-04-2011 a las 16:13 -0400, Ismael L. Donis García escribió:
   - Original Message -
 
 
  Que!!! China tambien los bloquea???
  pense que solo usa lo hacia
 
 chistoso, los chinos son socios nuestros, una buena cantidad de los 
 equipos de telecomunicaciones que tenemos por aca son chinos (i.e: Huawey)
 
bueno dejame decirte que no son buenos socios, si te proveen con hard de
esa marca

 USA sigue siendo la mayor potencia y USA es la que USA el bloqueo para 
 ponernos de rodillas como bombardea a Libia para progerla de Qaddafi
 

Lamento darte un baño de realidad, pero no es asi, si bien usa es un
potencia todavia, no es la mayor potencia. Si tus socios venden los
papeles de la deuda norteamericana, usa se desploma, y eso es una
potencia??. 
podrias haberlo tomado con humor, pero no, parece que no tenes humor.
Segui con tu vida


 
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 Haciendo abogacía por el software libre adonde voy
 
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Re: Nautilus Elementary

2011-05-01 Thread J. OCTAVIO AVALOS
El día 1 de mayo de 2011 23:59, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS
octavioava...@gmail.com escribió:
  Es decir, entiendo que para usar la rama 2.30 tendrías que apuntar al repo
 ese del baazar de esta forma:

 bzr branch lp:nautilus-elementary/2.30

 (si tienes alguna máquina virtual para probarlo antes ahí, mejor :-P)

 Si, es lo que acabo de hacer ahora pero lo bajé con bazaar-explorer en
 vez de con la linea de comandos. De esta forma entiendo que es como tu
 dices pero con un guión medio en la versión:

 bzr branch lp:nautilus-elementary-2.30/Directorio_Destino

 Un saludo

 --
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Bueno, por fin está compilado y funcionando, aparentemente sin
problema alguno. La compilación es como decíamos con anterioridad:
./cofigure --prefix=/usr
make
sudo make install
(No observé ningún error durante el proceso) y  vou-ala (en un
gallego coñero)

Un saludo



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Re: OT: Libre Office sobre windows

2011-05-01 Thread Orlando Nuñez
El 1 de mayo de 2011 18:27, Angel Claudio Alvarez 
an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:

 El vie, 29-04-2011 a las 20:43 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió:
  El 29/04/2011 19:22, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió:
   El vie, 29-04-2011 a las 16:13 -0400, Ismael L. Donis García escribió:
- Original Message -
 
 
   Que!!! China tambien los bloquea???
   pense que solo usa lo hacia
 
  chistoso, los chinos son socios nuestros, una buena cantidad de los
  equipos de telecomunicaciones que tenemos por aca son chinos (i.e:
 Huawey)
 
 bueno dejame decirte que no son buenos socios, si te proveen con hard de
 esa marca


Aqui los modem USB que se distribuyen son de esa marca y dejame decirte que
han salido buenos...


  USA sigue siendo la mayor potencia y USA es la que USA el bloqueo para
  ponernos de rodillas como bombardea a Libia para progerla de Qaddafi
 

 Lamento darte un baño de realidad, pero no es asi, si bien usa es un
 potencia todavia, no es la mayor potencia. Si tus socios venden los
 papeles de la deuda norteamericana, usa se desploma, y eso es una
 potencia??.


Que curioso, no son una potencia pero se dan el lujo de bombardear a medio
mundo, cuando quieran
como quieran y donde quieran y ningun otro pais hace algo al respecto


 podrias haberlo tomado con humor, pero no, parece que no tenes humor.
 Segui con tu vida


Este ultimo comentario da tristeza... que edad tienes 13, 14?



 
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Sobre openMRS

2011-05-01 Thread Orlando Nuñez
Saludos.


Estoy buscando algun software para historias clinicas libres, he probado
openclic, openclinica, gnumed, quiero probar openMRS, pero no he podido
instalarlo en Debian 6 estoy siguiendo los pasos de la wiki de openMRS

https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/OpenMRS+Debian+Appliance

Quedo aqui

http://ipaddress:8180/ to check Apache working
http://ipaddress:8180/manager/html to login to Apache
(tomcat / tomcat) Deploy openmrs.war file (download from this site)

Cuando intento ingresar con mi ip
http://192.168.1.105:8080/manager/html

o

http://localhost:8080/manager/html

No recibo alguna respuesta del navegador

Alguno de ustedes ha podido instalar openMRS ?



Sin mas a que hacer referencia

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Re: Sobre openMRS

2011-05-01 Thread Javier Barroso
2011/5/2 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com

 Saludos.


 Estoy buscando algun software para historias clinicas libres, he probado
 openclic, openclinica, gnumed, quiero probar openMRS, pero no he podido
 instalarlo en Debian 6 estoy siguiendo los pasos de la wiki de openMRS

 https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/OpenMRS+Debian+Appliance

 Quedo aqui

 http://ipaddress:8180/ to check Apache working
 http://ipaddress:8180/manager/html to login to Apache
 (tomcat / tomcat) Deploy openmrs.war file (download from this site)

 Cuando intento ingresar con mi ip
 http://192.168.1.105:8080/manager/html

 o

 http://localhost:8080/manager/html

Comprueba que los puertos son los que tienes configurados (en tu correo
aparece el 8080 y el 8180 luego ) (míralo con netstat -punta )

Saludos


Re: Sobre openMRS

2011-05-01 Thread Orlando Nuñez
El 1 de mayo de 2011 19:07, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com escribió:

 2011/5/2 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com

 Saludos.


 Estoy buscando algun software para historias clinicas libres, he probado
 openclic, openclinica, gnumed, quiero probar openMRS, pero no he podido
 instalarlo en Debian 6 estoy siguiendo los pasos de la wiki de openMRS

 https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/OpenMRS+Debian+Appliance

 Quedo aqui

 http://ipaddress:8180/ to check Apache working
 http://ipaddress:8180/manager/html to login to Apache
 (tomcat / tomcat) Deploy openmrs.war file (download from this site)

 Cuando intento ingresar con mi ip
 http://192.168.1.105:8080/manager/html

 o

 http://localhost:8080/manager/html

 Comprueba que los puertos son los que tienes configurados (en tu correo
 aparece el 8080 y el 8180 luego ) (míralo con netstat -punta )

 Saludos



Saludos, disculpa, estoy enviando el correo desde la pc que hice las
pruebas, fue un error enviando el correo, la prueba la realice tal
como indica en ela wiki

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Configurar tomcat6 en Debian 6

2011-05-01 Thread Orlando Nuñez
Saludos

Hace minutos escribi un post donde pedia ayuda para instalar openMRS, pero
la verdad lo unico que necesito
es poder configurar correctamente tomcat6

ok les explico apenas instalo tomcat6, tomcat6-admin y tomcat6-examples

con

sudo apt-get install tomcat6, tomcat6-admin y tomcat6-examples

y luego intento ingresar en

http://localhost:8080/manager/html

me pide usuario y contraseña

Incluso me indica que debo configurar el archivo

/var/lib/tomcat6/conf/tomcat-users.xml

Lo abro y veo que tiene un ejemplo, le quito informacion sobre la licencia y
queda asi

?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?
tomcat-users
  role rolename=tomcat/
  role rolename=role1/
  user username=tomcat password=tomcat roles=tomcat/
  user username=both password=tomcat roles=tomcat,role1/
  user username=role1 password=tomcat roles=role1/
/tomcat-users


Renicio el servicio

intento ingresar a

http://localhost:8080/manager/html

Nada

Incluso en uno de los manuales indican que debemos reiniciar, reinicio
vuelvo a intentar ingresar a

http://localhost:8080/manager/html

Nada.

Intente colocar esto

?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?
tomcat-users
role rolename=admin/
role rolename=manager/
role rolename=tomcat/
user username=tomcat password=”tomcat” roles=tomcat,admin,manager/
/tomcat-users

o esto

?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?
user name=admin password=XX roles=
tomcat,admin,manager,manager-gui/
/tomcat-users

y otros y es el mismo resultado.

Alguien puede darme una mano para configurar tomcat


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Re: Sobre openMRS

2011-05-01 Thread Juan Lavieri

Hola Orlando.

El 01/05/11 19:10, Orlando Nuñez escribió:



El 1 de mayo de 2011 19:07, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com 
mailto:javibarr...@gmail.com escribió:


2011/5/2 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com mailto:onvi...@gmail.com

Saludos.


Estoy buscando algun software para historias clinicas libres,
he probado openclic, openclinica, gnumed, quiero probar
openMRS, pero no he podido
instalarlo en Debian 6 estoy siguiendo los pasos de la wiki de
openMRS

https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/OpenMRS+Debian+Appliance

Quedo aqui

http://ipaddress:8180/ to check Apache working
http://ipaddress:8180/manager/html to login to Apache
(tomcat / tomcat) Deploy openmrs.war file (download from this
site)

Cuando intento ingresar con mi ip
http://192.168.1.105:8080/manager/html

o

http://localhost:8080/manager/html

Comprueba que los puertos son los que tienes configurados (en tu
correo aparece el 8080 y el 8180 luego ) (míralo con netstat -punta )

Saludos


Se que ahora estás con este lío del OpenMRS, pero te sugiero que cuando 
puedas le des un vistazo a OpenERM.


La página oficial es esta:

http://www.oerm.org

También puedes ejecutar una demo en línea sin necesidad de instalarlo, 
he aquí el enlace:


http://www.openmedsoftware.org/wiki/OpenEMR_Version_4.0.0_Demo

Saludos


Saludos, disculpa, estoy enviando el correo desde la pc que hice las 
pruebas, fue un error enviando el correo, la prueba la realice tal

como indica en ela wiki

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Re: OT: Libre Office sobre windows

2011-05-01 Thread Juan Lavieri

Hola.

El 30/04/11 13:42, Paradix ;) escribió:

El 29/04/2011 22:59, Juan Lavieri escribió:



Amigo Basaburu

No quiero entrar en polémicas políticas, pero apelando al sentido común
técnico pregunto lo siguiente:


El bloqueo los ha machacado y tienen las infraestructuras en
situación muy
debil.

Referente al bloqueo informático:

Técnicamente hablando. ¿Será muy difícil crear servidores proxyes en
Venezuela para que los amigos cubanos puedan navegar libremente a otros
sitios del mundo sin restricciones, ocultando su identidad?


podria ser perfectamente posible, veremos cuando termine el tendido del
cable de fibra optica con venezuela

Mientras eso sucede.

En uno de los tantos mensajes asociados a este hilo y a otros 
semejantes, se mencionó algo sobre la distribución nova;  yo accedí al 
sitio para obtener información de la misma, lo cual me hace ver que 
podemos entrar a algunos sitios en común quiero decir tanto ustedes como 
nosostros.


Eso me hace preguntar:  ¿No sería posible conseguir una autorización 
para que nosotros podamos subirle a ustedes la información que necesiten 
y así la tengan disponible para su descarga?  Creo que podríamos 
ayudarlos mientras se resuelve lo de el cable.





Si el bloqueo es tan estricto: ¿Cómo obtienen nuestros amigos cubanos
las copias de Windows 7 y Xp del cual dicen ser expertos?



por varias vias, algunos los bajan de inet, otros los traen del exterior
y los copiamos acá ... la necesidad obliga y nos ha hecho caer en la
pirateria ... cosa que queremos enmedar migrando el pais hacia swl 
ademas aunque quisieramos comprar windows

No vale la pena, eso no vale lo que cuesta.  lol  :-)

... el bloqueo no nos lo
permite ya que su entramado legal lo prohibe


certo  (en italiano, por si las dudas)


¿Quién les suministra los conocimientos para hacerse expertos en Windows
como ha alegado al menos un listero cubano?


jejejeje, leyendo los manuales q les robamos a m$,


Tranquilo, acá en Venezuela tenemos un refrán que seguramente lo conocen 
en cuba:  Ladrón que roba a ladrón tiene cien años de perdón



por mucho tiempo la
estrategia de nestro país hacia la informatización se orientó hacia la
explotación de los sistemas de M$, claro que se hizo equivocadamente,
pero estamos enderezando el paso, como tal se recolectó toda la
información técnica disponible en la red y no solo en ella sino en
cuanta libreria se tuviera disponible.

no se si estaras de acuerdo conmigo pero la necesidad obliga 
Aunque no sea lo mas legal, ese parece ser el pensar general en la 
actualidad.



y si USA
nos bloquea nosotros buscamos la manera de burlar el bloqueo, las
acciones pueden quiza haber rozado el limite de la legalidad e inclusive
haberla traspasado pero al fin y al cabo mas viola USA intentando
rendirnos por hambre 
Esa en realidad es una guerra;  lo que han cambiado son las armas que se 
usas, pero el fin es el mismo, doblegar al enemigo hasta derrotarlo.  
Visto desde ese punto de vista, quien es atacado debería poder 
defenderse con lo que tenga a mano.



nos niega el acceso a su tecnologia? la
importamos por terceras vias, para que te sirva de boton de muestra:
muchos de nuestros niños sufren cancer y muchas de las medicinas para
tratarlos se producen en USA y legalmente por el embargo no podemos
importarlas, pero no nos quedamos cruzados de brazos esperando que
mueran, se crea una compañia pantalla y esta se encarga de comprar el
medicamento que finalmente se consumirá en cuba, como estos casos hay
miles a lo largo de nuestra geografia y así es como ha podido sobrevivir
nuestro pais
Si.  Y lo curioso del caso que ellos alegan que lo hacen para obligar al 
dictador a dejar el poder;  es decir prescindiendo de lo que la 
mayoría opine y sin tomar en cuenta a quién se perjudique.  Por eso 
coloqué la palabra dictador entre comillas, ya que, ¿no es la conducta 
de ellos la que identifica en parte a quien se califique de dictador?  
Por otro los gobernantes de TODOS los países tienen recursos necesarios 
(pocos o muchos eso no importa, pero son los necesarios) para comprar lo 
que les de la gana, desde medicamentos, pasando por comida, juguetes, 
armas, etc.,  no así la población en general.



¿Por qué algunos ciudadanos de ese país pueden salir a internet sin
restricciones y la gran mayoría no puede?


la infraestructura de infocomunicaciones dentro de cuba está bastante
debil aun, hace 10 se inicio un proceso de modernizacion que no ha
terminado que puede variar esa situacion ... ismael lo dijo en mensajes
anteriores, como no se puede asegurar a todos esta priorizada

Es un razonamiento aceptable, pero deberían dejar que mas personas 
tuvieran acceso a la red lo mas pronto posible, así se quitan de encima 
esos argumentos negativos.  Además esas restricciones algunas veces se 
basan en la idea de que si la gente ve lo que hay afuera, entonces 
comenzarán a exigirlo localmente.


Bueno, ese es un buen reto para saber si de verdad el pueblo cubano está 

Re: Nautilus Elementary

2011-05-01 Thread Manuel Soto
El día 30 de abril de 2011 23:32, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS
octavioava...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 30 de abril de 2011 23:08, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:02:56 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió:

 Si el enlace que me indicas ya lo intenté con bazaar pero al hacer
 ./configure me indica que no existe el bash

 root@linux:/home/tavi/nautilus-elementary# ./configure --prefix=/usr
 bash: ./configure: No existe el fichero o el directorio

 Hum... ¿en qué directorio estás?

 Ejecuta un ls -l para ver qué archivos tienes donde estás ejecutando el
 /.configure.

 Saludos,


 Lo bajé con bazaar desde el repositorio lp:nautilus elementary y lo
 dirigí a ese directorio para instalarlo desde las fuentes y como se
 indica en el archivo de instrucciones INSTALL. Si te fijas hay un
 scrip install-sh pero no se si funciona.
 Los archivos que tiene el directorio son:

 root@linux:/home/tavi/nautilus-elementary# ls -l
 total 5872
 -rw-r--r-- 1 tavi tavi    576 abr 21 04:15 acconfig.h
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 tavi tavi     62 abr 21 04:15 add-include-prefix
 -rw-r--r-- 1 tavi tavi   1761 abr 21 04:15 AUTHORS
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 tavi tavi    528 abr 21 04:15 autogen.sh
 -rw-r--r-- 1 tavi tavi 244770 abr 21 04:15 ChangeLog
 -rw-r--r-- 1 tavi tavi 418226 abr 21 04:15 ChangeLog-2414
 -rw-r--r-- 1 tavi tavi 638332 abr 21 04:15 ChangeLog-2625
 -rw-r--r-- 1 tavi tavi 670586 abr 21 04:15 ChangeLog-2831
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Disculpa, te dimos un comando errado. Dado que el archivo comienza por
. eso significa que esta oculto

haz ls -la

con  la a solicitas que aparezcan los archivos ocultos

Suerte


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Re: Sobre openMRS

2011-05-01 Thread Orlando Nuñez
El 1 de mayo de 2011 20:19, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola Orlando.

 El 01/05/11 19:10, Orlando Nuñez escribió:



 El 1 de mayo de 2011 19:07, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.commailto:
 javibarr...@gmail.com escribió:

2011/5/2 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com mailto:onvi...@gmail.com


Saludos.


Estoy buscando algun software para historias clinicas libres,
he probado openclic, openclinica, gnumed, quiero probar
openMRS, pero no he podido
instalarlo en Debian 6 estoy siguiendo los pasos de la wiki de
openMRS

https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/OpenMRS+Debian+Appliance

Quedo aqui

http://ipaddress:8180/ to check Apache working
http://ipaddress:8180/manager/html to login to Apache
(tomcat / tomcat) Deploy openmrs.war file (download from this
site)

Cuando intento ingresar con mi ip
http://192.168.1.105:8080/manager/html

o

http://localhost:8080/manager/html

Comprueba que los puertos son los que tienes configurados (en tu
correo aparece el 8080 y el 8180 luego ) (míralo con netstat -punta )

Saludos


  Se que ahora estás con este lío del OpenMRS, pero te sugiero que cuando
 puedas le des un vistazo a OpenERM.

 La página oficial es esta:

 http://www.oerm.org

 También puedes ejecutar una demo en línea sin necesidad de instalarlo, he
 aquí el enlace:

 http://www.openmedsoftware.org/wiki/OpenEMR_Version_4.0.0_Demo


 Saludos


 Saludos, disculpa, estoy enviando el correo desde la pc que hice las
 pruebas, fue un error enviando el correo, la prueba la realice tal
 como indica en ela wiki

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Re: Compartir swap

2011-05-01 Thread Manuel Soto
El día 28 de abril de 2011 21:43, Nicolás Bevilacqua
nicobevilac...@gmail.com escribió:
 El 28/04/11 17:05, Orlando Nuñez escribió:

 Saludos.


 Tengo una pequeña duda, quizas les parezca un poco tonto, en mi pc siempre
 he tenido Linux / Windows, lamentablemente uso AutoCAD y otras aplicaciones
 para este programaesta, con Wine no se ejecuta correctamente, bueno esto no
 estan importante ya que muy poco uso Windows, estoy pensando instalar Quimo,
 un Sistema Operativo para niño, lo probe en un Live CD y mi hijo de 5 años
 me dijo que le gusto mucho, el ya usa la PC, sabe como escoger un sistema en
 el arranque.

 Ahora estoy pensando tener Debian + Windows + Quimo, mi pregunta es, al
 instalar Quimo, debo crear otra partición swap o compartir la que ya tengo
 para Debian?


 Este mensaje ha sido enviado gracias al servicio BlackBerry de Movilnet

 Yo lo he hecho con varias distribuciones y nunca tuve problemas.
 Eso si, casi nunca utilizo la función de hibernar ni de suspender. No se si
 afectará en algo.

 Saludos, Nicolás.


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Yo en mi pequeña Acer-one tengo W$ XP, debian, aptosid, ubuntu y mint,
ademas del W$ de recuperación, todo funciona muy bien hasta que hago
hibernación y arranco en otra días mas tarde, eso si que es grave, me
ha puesto a correr.

Quizás lo mas sano es 1Gb*OS/Swap. Normalmente utiliza la 1ra
partición para guardar a la imagen de memoria de hibernación por lo
que si las montas cada una usando de primero la asignada puedes contar
con 2Gb para Swap compartida

Suerte
MS


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Re: Software HelpDesk

2011-05-01 Thread Manuel Soto
El día 28 de marzo de 2011 17:23, andres cespedes
andres172...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola listeros,
 Muchas gracias por sus respuestas la verdad el GLPI me parece bastante
 bueno, me quedare con ese :-D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue-tracking_systems


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Re: debian installerat

2011-05-01 Thread Anders Jackson
Den 29 april 2011 08:42 skrev Bardia Zakeri bardiazak...@gmail.com:
 hej!

Hej

 har installerat debian på  min stationära dator.
 har både widnows 7 och  debian .
 men  hur gör man så  de blir partiskoner ?

Det är inte så svårt, men har du inte gjort det förr så skall du
kanske ha någon med dig som kan det.
Gör du fel, så kan all data från MS Windows-partitionen försvinna.

 så widnows har en egen  partison  och  samma för debian
 men vet att brltty laddas  vid installation såg de idag men var osäker  så
 fortsatte inte
 ska fixa den med hjälp

Först måste du kontrollera och defragmentera filsystemet från MS
Windows och ta en fräsch backup (för du gör backup, hoppas jag).

Så innan du gör nästa steg bör du ha gjort säkerhetskopior (backup) på
alla viktiga filer som dina fotografier och annat som du inte har
sparat på någon annan maskin.

Sedan så skall man från partitioneringsverktyget i installationen göra
MS Windows-partitionen mindre, så att Debian får plats.  Brukar gör MS
Windows-partitionen 10-20 GB mindre för att installera Debian i, mer
utrymme är bättre.
Man kan välja om man dessutom vill ha en extra partition för
Linux-swap eller om man vill använda en fil i Linux.  En speciell
swap-partition brukar gå lite fortare.  Annars fungerar vilket som.
Så av den avstyckade delen (partitionen) av hårddisken gör man
antingen en stor partition för Debian eller två, varav en 1G är
swap-partition och den andra för installation av Debian.  Om man
tänker installera ofta, så kan det vara idé att göra en partition för
/home, som användarnas filer hamnar i.

Men om man inte har speciellt viktigt data i Debian-installationen, så
kan man lika gärna använda en större partition för Debian och en liten
för Linux-swap.

Men det borde stå mer/bättre om hur man gör i Debians
installationsmanual så läs den innan du börjar installera.

/Jackson


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windows

2011-05-01 Thread mattias
Bara nyfiken
Kör någon här enbart debian som deskop eller windows och debian?


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Re: windows

2011-05-01 Thread Anders Jackson
Den 2 maj 2011 00:33 skrev mattias m...@mjw.se:
 Bara nyfiken
 Kör någon här enbart debian som deskop eller windows och debian?

Började med RedHat 2000, tillsammans med MS Windows ME för att surfa
och betala räkningar.
Bara Debian och Ubuntu sedan 2001-2002 tror jag, detta sedan MS
Windows ME raderades från disken.  Jo, från 2002 var det bara Debian,
Ubuntu kom senare :)

/Anders


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Re: Lxde Squeeze - Resolvido

2011-05-01 Thread Marcos João dos Santos
Oi, o 14-bis é o Squeeze, a versão 6 é o lenny, o 4 é o Etch. Na versão
6 foi preparado pra netbooks e notebooks também, no 14 bis está tudo
junto com ambiente gnome que uso no meu netbook com processador
fraquinho e roda muito bem. Debian é isso aí!
Abraços,
Marcos João
http://solucoeslinux.webnode.com.br/



Em Sex, 2011-04-29 às 22:20 -0300, Eden Caldas escreveu:
 Encontrei lá todas essas versões:
   * Livre S.O. 14-bis
   * Livre S.O. Nº6 - Desktop
   * Livre S.O. Nº6 - Notebook
   * Livre S.O. Nº6 - EEEPC
   * Livre S.O. 4.0
 Mas não encontrei em canto nenhum as diferenças entre elas. Poderia
 esclarecer?
 
 Eden Caldas
 Consultor de TI
 e...@linuxfacil.srv.br
 (81) 9653 7220
 LINUX FÁCIL – Consultoria e Serviços em TI
 
 
 Em 29 de abril de 2011 11:01, Marcos João dos Santos
 mar...@acheperto.com.br escreveu:
 Oi Rafael posso sim.
 
 Projeto,
 http://livre.wiki.br/jsite/
 
 http://livre.wiki.br/debate/
 
 
 Repositório.
 deb http://repositorio-livre.wiki.br/livre 14-bis main contrib
 non-free
 
 Abraços,
 Marcos João
 http://solucoeslinux.webnode.com.br/
 
 
 Em Sex, 2011-04-29 às 13:51 -0300, Rafael Gimenes Leite
 escreveu:
 
  Você poderia colocar ai a url desse repositório e site desse
 projeto?
  Obrigado
 
  2011/4/29 Marcos João dos Santos mar...@acheperto.com.br
  Olá pessoal, pelo que percebi o cd de instalação do
 Squeeze
  Lxde/Xfce
  vem sem alguns pacotes essenciais para configuração,
 o que fiz
  foi
  remover o lxde e reinstalar usando o repositório do
 Livre
  14-bis que é o
  mesmo Debian só que adaptado pro usuário final,
 fazendo isso
  já
  solucionou os problemas mencionados.
  Grato a todos pela ajuda.
  Marcos João
 
  Em Seg, 2011-04-25 às 17:13 -0300, Fábio Rabelo
 escreveu:
   Em 25 de abril de 2011 13:58, Marcos João dos
 Santos
   mar...@acheperto.com.br escreveu:
Olá pessoal,
Instalei o Squeeze com Lxde e estou encontrando
 dois
  problemas:
1 - Mouse serial - achei o comando - inputattach
  --micorosoft /dev/ttyS0
mas não estou conseguindo por na configuração da
 sessão
  esse comando.
2 - o botão de desligar está desativado e não
 estou
  achando informação
de como ativá-lo.
  
   Pergunta : O serviço chamado ACPI está rodando ?
  
   Ele é o responsável pelo gerenciamento deste
 botão, se não
  estiver
   rodando digite :
  
apt-get  install  acpid 
  
   E depois edite o arquivo  /etc/default/acpid   e
 retire o
  comentário
   da linha  all   e então levante o serviço :
  
   /etc/init.d/acpid start
  
   e então teste o botão .
  
  
Alguma idéia?
Grato desde já,
Marcos João
   
   
  
  
   Fábio Rabelo
  
  
 
 
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Unity e Gnome shell

2011-05-01 Thread Ricardo Jorge B . Guimarães
Por acaso há notícia que a comunidade Debian, já começou conversações sobre
esses dois ambientes gráficos?

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Re: Socializar Alegria e duvida de como Alterar visual do GDM

2011-05-01 Thread Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito
Obrigado Rafael ja ajudou!

Em 29 de abril de 2011 20:30, Rafael Henrique da Silva Correia 
rafaelhenr...@gmail.com escreveu:

  Cara achei uma luz a quem interessar... segue dica:

 http://linuxlike.blogspot.com/2011/02/como-customizar-o-gdm2-no-debian.html

 Em 29-04-2011 20:26, Rafael Henrique da Silva Correia escreveu:

 Em 25-04-2011 15:34, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito escreveu:

  Bom Dia e Boa Páscoa Debianos!


 Boa páscoa atrasado!


  Sou Marcos Egito, a muito faço parte desta lista, ja fui muito ajudado
 por vocês, acompanho a todas as discussões.
 Bom quero compartilhar com todos minha felicidade, Trabalho em um centro de
 re-condicionamento de computadores e formação (Centro Marista Circuito Jovem
 do Recife), onde sou educador de Software Livre.


 Parabéns, belo trabalho! Também tenho vontade de lecionar! :D

   A inicio o usávamos ubuntu (Eu sempre usei o Debian),  hoje em
 nosso laboratório de informática estamos rodando o GNU/Linux Debian 6.0
 Squeeze, em nossa unidade temos outras maquinas que o roda também, e os
 alunos acabam por levar para casa o nosso Debian, esta a alegria que queria
 socializar.

  Uma de minhas duvidas é como posso nesta nova versão estar alterando o
 visual do GDM, antes era fácil, baixamos o tema que queríamos para o GDM no
 arte.gnome.org, se não me engano, íamos no menu Sistema  Preferências 
 Tela de início de seção.
 Agora como posso mudar a tela de início de seção?


 Tenho a mesma dúvida! Porém percebi que quando mudei de kernel (quando a
 versão do Squeeze ainda era testing e passou para stable) o tema do GDM
 mudou! Talvez tenhamos a primeira pista!


  Desde ja agradeço!
 Tenho outras dúvidas que como esta irei pesquizar primeiro caso não consiga
 respostas venho a lista!
 Abraços!


 Ainda não pesquisei no Google... se eu descobrir algo posto aqui pra
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Re: Unity e Gnome shell

2011-05-01 Thread Humberto Ferreira da Luz Junior
Não li nada a respeito, mas acredito que vá para o gnome 3. Ainda vai levar
quase 2 anos para sair a proxima versão estável do Debian, então tem muito
tempo para tomarem essa decisão. Até lá ambas as opções estarão muito mais
amadurecidas.

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Ciência da Computação / UEL



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rjb...@gmail.comescreveu:

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Re: specific kernel configuration for graphic card driver

2011-05-01 Thread lina
Thanks for providing me the links and information.

Part 1:

last time I tried that one (install from squeeze one), it popped some
errors like:


$ more /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log

Creating symlink /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.831.2/source -
 /usr/src/fglrx-8.831.2

DKMS: add Completed.

Kernel preparation unnecessary for this kernel.  Skipping...

Building module:
cleaning build area
cd /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.831.2/build; sh make.sh --nohints
--uname_r=2.6.38-mbp8
2-nhg --norootcheck.(bad exit status: 1)
0
0
[Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-8.831.2 with DKMS
[Error] Kernel Module : Removing fglrx-8.831.2 from DKMS

--
Deleting module version: 8.831.2
completely from the DKMS tree.
--
Done.


Part 2:

Later my collage told me to build the sid one. I downloaded, but met
the dependency problems.

 the org-video-abi-8

which needed update the xserver-xorg-core. But I met the conflict of
updating the xserver-xorg-core sepearately, it would remove lots of
other packages. so I just gave up.

Part 3:

Is it possible to update xserver-xorg-core from stable one to unstable
one? without something I worry that I can't handle.


Thanks and best regards,

lina


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Re: fullscreen video with mencoder

2011-05-01 Thread Doug

On 04/30/2011 11:53 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

In20110430212842.ga16...@debian.jeff, Jeffrin Jose wrote:

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 03:04:37PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:

I think he wants the black bars.  What he doesn't want is for the video
to get stretched to fill the screen, wrecking the aspect ratio in the
process.

I do not want the black bars. I need the picture to be
fullscreen without getting stretched.

So, you want the picture cropped to the screen size?

E.g.:
If you have a video that is 16x9 and you have a 576x432 screen you can:
(1) Scale by a factor of 36 in both dimensions, maintaining aspect ratio, to a
576x324 video and add 88 rows of black pixel padding to fill the rest of the
screen.
(2) Scale by a factor of 48 in both directions, maintaining aspect ratio, to a
768x432 video and delete 192 columns of data by cropping since it can't all be
displayed on the screen.
(3) Scale by a factor of 36 horizontally, and 48 vertically, stretching the
image--changing the aspect ratio by a factor of 4/3, but giving a exactly
576x432 video.

Most video players with a full-screen mode do (1).  Many have an option to do
(3).  I've not seen a GUI option for doing (2), but I'm sure there's a
command-line invocation of mplayer (and possibly others) to do it.

#2 is somewhat crappy, since it loses data.  It has certainly been used, as
part of pan-and-scan conversions, but they are usually human assisted, so
they can avoid cutting out important events.  (I can imagine a full automated
pan-and-scan but I don't know anything that does that, yet.)

Maybe I missed something along the way, but I think there is a more-or-
less standard that just chops the sides off wide-screen pictures and 
fills the

screen with the center 4x3 section of picture. Unless you have wide-screen
text or a spreadsheet, this seems to work fine for most other purposes.
(I'm still using 4/3 displays on Linux and Windows and I have no 
intention of

changing until a monitor burns out. I would lose too much horizontal surface
[i.e., desk space] if I had a 16/9 screen of the same height as I have now--
which I need for comfortable reading and writing of text.)  Oh--I don't play
shoot-em-ups.

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Re: Why had emacs 23 become so ugly?

2011-05-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-05-01 04:46 +0200, Hendrik Boom wrote:

 On Sun, 01 May 2011 02:21:25 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:

 I'm still running squeeze.  For some reason, when I run emacs now, it
 dieplays all my C and C++ files with a variable-width font, in which the
 indentations I've been using have become microscopic.  What's more,
 carefully counted-out ASCII tables and diagrams have become unreadable.
 
 Why is this?  Why has this nonsense been inflicted on programmers?  What
 can I do about it?  Why should it even be necessary to do anything,
 considering that emacs is presumably maintained by programmers?
 
 -- hendrik

 Actually, the ugliness is just there when I start it from the command 
 line.  Starting from the Debian menu programs-applications-editors-
emacs23 (x11) it works fine.  As does programs-applications-editors-
emacs23 (text), which starts up in an xterm.

 So why should running it from the command line in an xterm be different?

Probably due to Xresources starting with emacs.  If you invoke Emacs
as emacs it does read those, but it ignores them when started under a
different name (the menu invokes Emacs as emacs23).  What does 
xrdb -query | grep -i emacs print?

Sven


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Re: fullscreen video with mencoder

2011-05-01 Thread Ron Johnson

On 05/01/2011 01:34 AM, Doug wrote:
[snip]

Maybe I missed something along the way, but I think there is a more-or-
less standard that just chops the sides off wide-screen pictures and
fills the
screen with the center 4x3 section of picture.


That's called pan-and-scan, and you must manually specify when 
transcoding the video that you want to chop off the edges.


 Unless you have wide-screen

text or a spreadsheet, this seems to work fine for most other purposes.
(I'm still using 4/3 displays on Linux and Windows and I have no
intention of
changing until a monitor burns out. I would lose too much horizontal
surface
[i.e., desk space] if I had a 16/9 screen of the same height as I have
now--
which I need for comfortable reading and writing of text.) Oh--I don't play
shoot-em-ups.



newegg sells some 4:3 LCDs in a range of prices.  I bought two Hanns-G 
19 4:3 monitors and am nothing but pleased with them.


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Re: specific kernel configuration for graphic card driver

2011-05-01 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis
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On 05/01/2011 09:22 AM, lina wrote:
 Thanks for providing me the links and information.

You are welcome!

 Part 1:
 
 last time I tried that one (install from squeeze one), it popped some
 errors like:
 
 
 $ more /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log
 
 Creating symlink /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.831.2/source -
  /usr/src/fglrx-8.831.2
 
 DKMS: add Completed.
 
 Kernel preparation unnecessary for this kernel.  Skipping...
 
 Building module:
 cleaning build area
 cd /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.831.2/build; sh make.sh --nohints
 --uname_r=2.6.38-mbp8
 2-nhg --norootcheck.(bad exit status: 1)
 0
 0
 [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-8.831.2 with DKMS
 [Error] Kernel Module : Removing fglrx-8.831.2 from DKMS
 
 --
 Deleting module version: 8.831.2
 completely from the DKMS tree.
 --
 Done.

We could research this further. But it's probably not worth it, because,
if your card is new, it will require a recent driver, which is not
available in Squeeze.

 Part 2:
 
 Later my collage told me to build the sid one. I downloaded, but met
 the dependency problems.
 
  the org-video-abi-8
 
 which needed update the xserver-xorg-core. But I met the conflict of
 updating the xserver-xorg-core sepearately, it would remove lots of
 other packages. so I just gave up.
 
 Part 3:
 
 Is it possible to update xserver-xorg-core from stable one to unstable
 one? without something I worry that I can't handle.

Have you tried the driver in Wheezy (testing)? It may have more relaxed
dependencies and still be up to date. But it probably won't.

So let's do this. Try to compile the fglrx package from sid on squeeze.

$ apt-get source ${fglrx-package-name}
$ cd ${fglrx-package-name}

Now edit debian/control and remove build and non-build dependencies as
necessary. Remove or relax the version strings, so it will build and run
on squeeze.

Now  you will need the devscripts package and the build-dependencies of
the fglrx package. Install these manually or try (may not work):

$ sudo apt-get build-dep ${fglrx-package-name}
$ sudo aptitude install devscripts

Now run debuild from the sources' dir. You may want to run dch to update
the revision. You may also need to install some other packages: apt-file
is your friend. There will be errors towards the end, regarding missing
gpg keys, but ignore these.

A package will be built outside the sources' dir and you can go from there.

 Thanks and best regards,
 
 lina

You are welcome, but it may be worth waiting for someone more
knowledgeable than I to reply.

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Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 4/30/2011 11:48 PM, shawn wilson wrote:


i'm interested in not seeing unsubstantiated opinion on a technical
mailing list.


That 'opinion' is based, in part, on the following facts, many of which 
are in my previous posts to this list.  If you would like, to avoid 
expressing 'opinion' in the future, I could simply paste the following 
huge ass text into every email dealing with XFS, instead of using short 
hand subjective phrases such as 'XFS is the overall best Linux FS'.  The 
following, and additional evidence freely available, demonstrates this 
'opinion' to be fact.


All four US National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) labs: LANL, 
LLNL, Oak Ridge, and Sandia, as well as NASA Ames and the US Air Force 
Research Laboratory in Dayton, Ohio, have all used, or still use, XFS 
and/or CXFS on large scale storage, dozens of petabytes of XFS disk total.


NASA Ames has been using XFS for 16+ years, and still do, on the 10,240 
processor (originally) Columbia super and the archival servers.  They're 
currently running an 800TB CXFS filesystem on SAN storage, and local XFS 
filesystems on 215TB, 175TB, and 65TB direct fiber attached storage.


http://www.nas.nasa.gov/Resources/Systems/columbia.html
http://www.nas.nasa.gov/Resources/Systems/archive_storage.html

Professor Steven Hawking's research group has used 4 generations of SGI 
supercomputers spanning 14 years running cosmology simulations to 
support Dr. Hawking's theories, each machine, as with all SGI supers, 
running XFS:  http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/cosmos/hardware/


Linux Kernel Archives said:

A bit more than a year ago (as of October 2008) kernel.org, in an ever 
increasing need to squeeze more performance out of its machines, made 
the leap of migrating the primary mirror machines (mirrors.kernel.org) 
to XFS. We site a number of reasons including fscking 5.5T of disk is 
long and painful, we were hitting various cache issues, and we were 
seeking better performance out of our file system.


After initial tests looked positive we made the jump, and have been 
quite happy with the results. With an instant increase in performance 
and throughput, as well as the worst xfs_check we've ever seen taking 10 
minutes, we were quite happy. Subsequently we've moved all primary 
mirroring file-systems to XFS, including www.kernel.org , and 
mirrors.kernel.org. With an average constant movement of about 400mbps 
around the world, and with peaks into the 3.1gbps range serving 
thousands of users simultaneously it's been a file system that has taken 
the brunt we can throw at it and held up spectacularly.


The kernel code running on your system Shawn was originally served from 
an XFS filesystem.  The Debian kernel team gets their upstream tarball 
from kernel.org as everyone does, served up by XFS.  If this fact 
doesn't carry weight for a Linux user I don't know what would...



Very Interesting XFS research paper from a few years ago authored by two 
of the principal XFS developers:


http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.114.1918rep=rep1type=pdf


Independent Linux filesystem tests performed by an IBM engineer to track 
BTRFS performance during development.  XFS trounces the others in most 
tests:


http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_creates_num_threads=1.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_creates_num_threads=16.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_creates_num_threads=128.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_reads._num_threads=1.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_reads._num_threads=16.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_reads._num_threads=128.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_writes._num_threads=1.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_writes._num_threads=16.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_writes._num_threads=128.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_writes_odirect._num_threads=1.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_writes_odirect._num_threads=16.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_random_writes_odirect._num_threads=128.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_sequential_reads._num_threads=1.html

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Large_file_sequential_reads._num_threads=16.html


Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 01 mai 11, 02:34:59, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

[snip various super-stuff running xfs]

I understand that xfs is great for super-computers[1] and stuff, but how 
is that relevant to a desktop computer with something like this?

$ df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6 9.2G  7.3G  1.5G  84% /
tmpfs1006M  4.0K 1006M   1% /lib/init/rw
udev 1004M  548K 1004M   1% /dev
tmpfs1006M 0 1006M   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs1006M  164K 1006M   1% /tmp
/dev/sda7 9.2G  2.7G  6.1G  31% /media/stable
/dev/sda2  19G  9.9G  7.6G  57% /home
/dev/sda8 104G   79G   26G  76% /home/amp/big

(actually one of those partitions is on xfs, but that's not my point)

[1] my definition of super-computer is something that I can't afford :)
That includes stuff like RAID, considering I'm struggling to find the 
space for regular backups AND for all the junk.

Regards,
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Re: specific kernel configuration for graphic card driver

2011-05-01 Thread lina
# aptitude install devscripts
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  dctrl-tools{a} devscripts dput{a} equivs{a} libapt-pkg-perl{a}
  libauthen-sasl-perl{a} libclass-accessor-perl{a}
  libclass-inspector-perl{a} libcommon-sense-perl{a}
  libconvert-binhex-perl{a} libcrypt-ssleay-perl{a}
  libdevel-symdump-perl{a} libfcgi-perl{a} libhtml-template-perl{a}
  libio-pty-perl{a} libio-string-perl{a} libio-stringy-perl{a}
  libipc-run-perl{a} libjson-perl{a} libjson-xs-perl{a}
  libmime-tools-perl{a} libossp-uuid-perl{a} libossp-uuid16{a}
  libparse-debcontrol-perl{a} libparse-debianchangelog-perl{a}
  libpod-coverage-perl{a} libsoap-lite-perl{a} libsub-name-perl{a}
  libtask-weaken-perl{a} libterm-size-perl{a} libtest-pod-perl{a}
  libtie-ixhash-perl{a} libxml-namespacesupport-perl{a}
  libxml-sax-expat-perl{a} libxml-sax-perl{a} libxml-simple-perl{a}
  libyaml-syck-perl{a} lintian{a} lzma{a} strace{a} wdiff{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libaa1-dev{u} libartsc0-dev{u} libasound2-dev{u} libaudio-dev{u}
  libaudiofile-dev{u} libavahi-client-dev{u} libavahi-common-dev{u}
  libcaca-dev{u} libdbus-1-dev{u} libdirectfb-dev{u} libdirectfb-extra{u}
  libesd0-dev{u} libglib2.0-dev{u} libjpeg62-dev{u} libldap2-dev{u}
  libodbcinstq1c2{u} libopal-doc{u} libopal3.6.8{u} libpt-dev{u}
  libpt2.6.7{u} libpulse-browse0{u} libpulse-dev{u} libsasl2-dev{u}
  libsdl1.2-dev{u} libspeex-dev{u} libspeexdsp-dev{u} libspeexdsp1{u}
  libsrtp0{u} libsrtp0-dev{u} libsvga1-dev{u} libsysfs-dev{u}
  unixodbc-dev{u}
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On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Panayiotis Karabassis pan...@gmail.com wrote:
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 On 05/01/2011 09:22 AM, lina wrote:
 Thanks for providing me the links and information.

 You are welcome!

 Part 1:

 last time I tried that one (install from squeeze one), it popped some
 errors like:


 $ more /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log

 Creating symlink /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.831.2/source -
                  /usr/src/fglrx-8.831.2

 DKMS: add Completed.

 Kernel preparation unnecessary for this kernel.  Skipping...

 Building module:
 cleaning build area
 cd /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.831.2/build; sh make.sh --nohints
 --uname_r=2.6.38-mbp8
 2-nhg --norootcheck.(bad exit status: 1)
 0
 0
 [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-8.831.2 with DKMS
 [Error] Kernel Module : Removing fglrx-8.831.2 from DKMS

 --
 Deleting module version: 8.831.2
 completely from the DKMS tree.
 --
 Done.

 We could research this further. But it's probably not worth it, because,
 if your card is new, it will require a recent driver, which is not
 available in Squeeze.

 Part 2:

 Later my collage told me to build the sid one. I downloaded, but met
 the dependency problems.

  the org-video-abi-8

 which needed update the xserver-xorg-core. But I met the conflict of
 updating the xserver-xorg-core sepearately, it would remove lots of
 other packages. so I just gave up.

 Part 3:

 Is it possible to update xserver-xorg-core from stable one to unstable
 one? without something I worry that I can't handle.

 Have you tried the driver in Wheezy (testing)? It may have more relaxed
 dependencies and still be up to date. But it probably won't.

 So let's do this. Try to compile the fglrx package from sid on squeeze.

 $ apt-get source ${fglrx-package-name}
 $ cd ${fglrx-package-name}

 Now edit debian/control and remove build and non-build dependencies as
 necessary. Remove or relax the version strings, so it will build and run
 on squeeze.

 Now  you will need the devscripts package and the build-dependencies of
 the fglrx package. Install these manually or try (may not work):

 $ sudo apt-get build-dep ${fglrx-package-name}
 $ sudo aptitude install devscripts

 Now run debuild from the sources' dir. You may want to run dch to update
 the revision. You may also need to install some other packages: apt-file
 is your friend. There will be errors towards the end, regarding missing
 gpg keys, but ignore these.

 A package will be built outside the sources' dir and you can go from there.

 Thanks and best regards,

 lina

 You are welcome, but it may be worth waiting for someone more
 knowledgeable than I to reply.

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Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Chen Wei
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 03:41:05PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
  prad put forth on 4/20/2011 11:43 PM:
  Why USB?
  since our volume is pretty small we only require around 10G.
  the idea is to keep bkps on usb drives, so that if one fails, it's just
  a simple plug-in to get things going again. we were thinking that we
  avoid any possibility of hd failure/replacement this way and likely
  reduce power requirements too.
  
  i've read that usb3 has faster write access than hd (though usb2
  apparently didn't). read access though is apparently just as good with
  usb2.
  
  we haven't evaluated the idea fully yet though and are just
  contemplating the possibility as a sort of poorman's solid state drives.
 
 I'd steer clear of USB disk storage for a server environment.  I've seen
 too many reports of USB links resetting spuriously for no apparent
 reason.  If you have your root filesystem and swap on such a device and
 this happens, you're in trouble.
 
Indeed, running apps need access an external USB disk can be quite
troublesome, especially when the app is expected to running non-stop
for a long time. I learned the lesson when try to serve NFS over home
network, with the shared NFS directory on an external USB hard disk.
After running for several hours, sometimes several days if lucky, that
USB disk becomes unresponsive. Thanks to journaling ext3 filesystem, no
data was lost. couldn't figure out why the USB disk malfunction, since
it runs flawlessly if only use for brief peroid of time. 

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Re: specific kernel configuration for graphic card driver

2011-05-01 Thread lina
fglrx-driver depends on xserver-xorg (= 1:7.6+1)
fglrx-driver depends on xorg-video-abi-8
xorg-video-abi-8 does not appear to be available

for the wheezy version fglrx, it's also had the dependency problems.

Thanks and best regards,

lina


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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-05-01 Thread Chen Wei
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:22:06AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
 
 Thanks for doing this.
u are welcome :)

 
 The trouble with GMail is that it is suboptimal when it comes to a
 couple of things when compared to Mutt, _for me_:
 
 - It's threading is linear, which is difficult to follow for long and
   complex evolving threads.
 - I prefer console goodness over a web based approach.
 - GMail encourages top posting.
 
 But I see the merit in using GMail; it's simple, easy and powerful to
 use. Just that it's not for me.
 
 Kumar
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Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 05/01/2011 04:34 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 That 'opinion' is based, in part, on the following facts, many of
 which are in my previous posts to this list.  If you would like, to
 avoid expressing 'opinion' in the future, I could simply paste the
 following huge ass text into every email dealing with XFS, instead of
 using short hand subjective phrases such as 'XFS is the overall best
 Linux FS'.  The following, and additional evidence freely available,
 demonstrates this 'opinion' to be fact.

 All four US National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) labs:
 LANL, LLNL, Oak Ridge, and Sandia, as well as NASA Ames and the US Air
 Force Research Laboratory in Dayton, Ohio, have all used, or still
 use, XFS and/or CXFS on large scale storage, dozens of petabytes of
 XFS disk total.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

 NASA Ames has been using XFS for 16+ years, and still do, on the
 10,240 processor (originally) Columbia super and the archival
 servers.  They're currently running an 800TB CXFS filesystem on SAN
 storage, and local XFS filesystems on 215TB, 175TB, and 65TB direct
 fiber attached storage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

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Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Lee Winter
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
edua...@kalinowski.com.br wrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

Both wrong.  Wrong context.  Please read them again carefully.

 Bigamy is having one spouse too many.  Monogamy is the same.

Are you writing from experience?

Lee Winter
Nashua, New Hampshire
United States of America (NDY)


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Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Chen Wei
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 11:35:17AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Du, 01 mai 11, 02:34:59, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 I understand that xfs is great for super-computers[1] and stuff, but how 
 is that relevant to a desktop computer with something like this?
 
 $ df -h
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda6 9.2G  7.3G  1.5G  84% /
 tmpfs1006M  4.0K 1006M   1% /lib/init/rw
 udev 1004M  548K 1004M   1% /dev
 tmpfs1006M 0 1006M   0% /dev/shm
 tmpfs1006M  164K 1006M   1% /tmp
 /dev/sda7 9.2G  2.7G  6.1G  31% /media/stable
 /dev/sda2  19G  9.9G  7.6G  57% /home
 /dev/sda8 104G   79G   26G  76% /home/amp/big
 
 (actually one of those partitions is on xfs, but that's not my point)
 
 [1] my definition of super-computer is something that I can't afford :)
 That includes stuff like RAID, considering I'm struggling to find the 
 space for regular backups AND for all the junk.
 
My 7 years old laptop could be classified as the opposite of super
computer:). As an average home user, I don't benchmark filesystems, my
experience is purly subjective. Still, I would appreciate a filesystem
that can:

1) journaling. the long ext2 fsck is too painful.
2) performs well on a lots of small files, maildir and extrace linux
kernel source for example. 
3) performs well on large files, to me, large means several G, since XFS
appears define large in astronomical number, it should be happy with my
files.
4) online defragment. there are files under thunderbird and firefox
profile directory keep been modified. I expect better web browsing
responsiveness if those files been defrag regularly.

I am using ext4 now, works fine so far, it will be great if ext4 have
online defragment, though, I shall put xfs on the list when need install
an OS or get a new hard disk next time.


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Canonical place to configure power management

2011-05-01 Thread Kai Weber
Hi,

I use powertop to enable power management for various devices on my laptop.
I wonder where I can store these configuration options permanently. I looked
into pm-utils and guess I can use this package but there seems to be no
documentation how one should use pm-utils.

Some examples of the options in question like displayed in powertop:

 Bad   Wireless Power Saving for interface wlan0
   Bad   Enable SATA link power management for /dev/sda
   Bad   NMI watchdog should be turned off
   Bad   VM writeback timeout
   Bad   Enable Audio codec power management
   Bad   Autosuspend for USB device BCM2045B (Broadcom Corp)

How do you enable these settings? Do you store them permanently?

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Re: postfix cannot connect to saslauthd

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 01 May 2011 12:05:47 +0800, H Xu wrote:

 On 05/01/2011 08:24 AM, H Xu wrote:

 BTW, I was able to send mails from my domain to others, not still not
 able to send a message from my domain to my domain.
 
 I'm sorry, there is nothing wrong with the mail transportation from one
 host to another. I find out that postfix never uses virtual to do
 delivery but always uses local. I've already set
 virtual_mailbox_domains in my main.cf. But still it's not working.
 
 
 Here is the main.cf:

(...)

We need to see the Postfix error log or are you still getting the same 
message? 

Also, how are you sending the e-mail from Gmail, using Gmail's smtp 
server or using your Postfix as gateway? It is vital to know what is your 
current mail layout, that is, how are you using Postix.

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Re: Dovecot Problems on Sid

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:36:35 +0300, David Baron wrote:

 On Saturday 26 Nisan 5771 22:59:04 David Baron wrote:

  I would start with the usual tests:
  
  http://wiki.dovecot.org/TestInstallation
 
 Process is not running. There is no log entry after those listener
 errors (995 and 993) for the unstable install. The downgraded testing
 install has no entries at all.
 
 Problem is in all that inetd testing loop. Bypassing that, I actually
 get to the do_start. Listening to [::], I can start the daemon but
 cannot USE IT. Connection still refused. Listening to * (normal ivp4), I
 that new failure to listen to 993. Something else is already using it
 (995 would be the pop3 server).
 
 Since I never had these problem before, what is going on now? 

Run all of the avobe tests (the ones suggested at Dovecot's wiki) and put 
here the results. It's still unclear where the problem is.

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: Anyone know now long backports.org will be down?

2011-05-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, shawn wilson wrote:
 All the same, they should know better than to break part of the internet.
 That's sorta uncalled for.

Someone has to pay for the domain and hosting and bandwidth for the redirect
server.  Are you volunteering to do that?  It would be most welcome, I am
sure.

The move was announced widely, including in backports.org itself and the
mailing lists you were strongly urged to subscribe to in the backports.org
terms of service and usage directions.

It is now down, so any remaining users will be forced to ask about it, and
will get pointed to the right place.   Eventually (and I hope it will take a
long time to happen) the domain will expire, some squatter will get hold of
that domain, and do whatever evil things they might care to.

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
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Re: Canonical place to configure power management

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 01 May 2011 15:36:40 +0200, Kai Weber wrote:

 I use powertop to enable power management for various devices on my
 laptop. I wonder where I can store these configuration options
 permanently. I looked into pm-utils and guess I can use this package but
 there seems to be no documentation how one should use pm-utils.
 
 Some examples of the options in question like displayed in powertop:
 
 Bad   Wireless Power Saving for interface wlan0
Bad   Enable SATA link power management for /dev/sda Bad 
 NMI watchdog should be turned off Bad   VM writeback
timeout
Bad   Enable Audio codec power management Bad  
Autosuspend for USB device BCM2045B (Broadcom Corp)
 
 How do you enable these settings? Do you store them permanently?

I think powertop is just giving you some hints on what you can tweak to 
save your battery. You can ignore them or apply them, that's up to you.

Additional info on their meaning:

http://www.lesswatts.org/tips/

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Re: Roundcube broken after Squeeze upgrade

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:23:19 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 Roundcube keeps redirecting to the login page immediately after a
 successful login.  

(...)

 I performed aptitude remove --purge roundcube and reinstalled to no
 avail.  Other RC users have run into this problem but only apparently
 with 0.4.x and 0.5.x.  None of the possible fixes they mentioned have
 worked for me.  One such suggestion was to disable the Suhosin module.
 Suhosin is compiled into the PHP5 shipped in Squeeze so it can't be
 disabled.  If indeed Suhosin is the cause of the problem, then Roundcube
 should be broken for all Debian 6 users.

Regarding the Suhosin module, it should be disabled by default unless you 
are not using Apache web server. Review /usr/share/doc/roundcube-core/
News.Debian.gz file.

 Anyone else seen this problem?  Anyone have any ideas?  My webmail is
 totally down until I can resolve this.

Another hint provided by Debian docs in README.Debian file, talks about 
the proper configuration of the webserver Alias directives, so that's 
something you can also check.

Sorry, no more ideas because I'm not using Roundcube :-(

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Re: Problem with Samba on Squeeze

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:51:51 -0700, Roger Morgan wrote:

 Samba is running but I can't connect to it, and when I do the following
 test (from the Samba server):
 smbclient -L servername
 
 the response (after entering correct password) is: 
 cut here---
 Receiving SMB: Server stopped responding session setup failed: Call
 timed out: server did not respond after 2 milliseconds
 ---end of response--

(...)

It looks something related to authentication.

Is there anything interesting at samba logs? I know samba logs are pretty 
hard to understand :-) but maybe there is something in there that give 
you any clue.

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Re: mythnetvision on Squeeze -- anybody got it working?

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:42:21 -0400, Rob Owens wrote:

 I've installed mythnetvision from debian-multimedia, but can't seem to
 subscribe to any sites.  Can anybody confirm for me that it does work?
 And were there any special tricks required?

What error/behaviour are you getting? 

Never used that app before but seems to have some requirements:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNetvision#Requirements

Also, give an eye to the Troubleshooting section, just in case:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNetvision#Troubleshooting

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Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4dbd0d23.1080...@hardwarefreak.com, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Independent Linux filesystem tests performed by an IBM engineer to track
BTRFS performance during development.  XFS trounces the others in most
tests:

These results are interesting and useful, but I think trounces is a poor 
description for what XFS does.

Not using barriers undermines data consistency guarantees, I think it is best 
to ignore the 2.6.35-rc5-autokern1-ext3-*-ext3, 2.6.35-rc5-autokern1-ext4-*-
ext4-nobarrier, and 2.6.35-rc5-autokern1-xfs-*-xfx-nobarrier entries.

So that btrfs doesn't remain the only filesystem with 2 entries, I'll also 
ignore the 2.6.35-rc5-autokern1-btrfs-*-btrfs-nocow entry, as it is non-
default.

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_La
rge_file_creates_num_threads=1.html

On the graphs, XFS is, respectively:
2nd, 4th, 2nd, 4th

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_La
rge_file_creates_num_threads=16.html

2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_La
rge_file_creates_num_threads=128.html

1st, 1st, 1st, 1st

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_La
rge_file_random_writes._num_threads=1.html

1st, 4th, 1st, 4th

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_La
rge_file_random_writes._num_threads=16.html

2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_La
rge_file_random_writes._num_threads=128.html

2nd, 4th, 2nd, 2nd

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Ma
il_server_simulation._num_threads=1.html

5th, 1st, 5th, 1st, 3rd

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Ma
il_server_simulation._num_threads=16.html

5th, 1st, 5th, 5th, 1st

http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5/2.6.35-rc5_Ma
il_server_simulation._num_threads=128.html

4th, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 2nd

I wouldn't say that is a trouncing, since it doesn't even win in many 
categories.
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Re: [SOLVED] Re: Anyone know now long backports.org will be down?

2011-05-01 Thread shawn wilson
On May 1, 2011 9:58 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org
wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, shawn wilson wrote:
  All the same, they should know better than to break part of the
internet.
  That's sorta uncalled for.

 Someone has to pay for the domain and hosting and bandwidth for the
redirect
 server.  Are you volunteering to do that?  It would be most welcome, I am
 sure.


It should cost $7 to $10 per year to keep the domain. So, the closest I can
find is 'donate services and hardware' here:
http://www.debian.org/donationsso someone has a month until the domain
expires or two (?) until it goes
back into the pool for anyone to buy to tell me how to make sure that's
maintained.

Oh, and I don't really think there's any maintaining servers sense (the
majority of?) that data is on debian.org/backports IIRC. I think this was
more of a political issue than a money / time / anything else issue.


Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread prad
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br writes:

 On 05/01/2011 04:34 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 That 'opinion' is based, in part, on the following facts, many of
 which are in my previous posts to this list.  If you would like, to
 avoid expressing 'opinion' in the future, I could simply paste the
 following huge ass text into every email dealing with XFS, instead of
 using short hand subjective phrases such as 'XFS is the overall best
 Linux FS'.  The following, and additional evidence freely available,
 demonstrates this 'opinion' to be fact.

 All four US National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) labs:
 LANL, LLNL, Oak Ridge, and Sandia, as well as NASA Ames and the US Air
 Force Research Laboratory in Dayton, Ohio, have all used, or still
 use, XFS and/or CXFS on large scale storage, dozens of petabytes of
 XFS disk total.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

this isn't an ipse dixit, eduardo.
stan is not arguing xfs should be used because NNSA uses it. he is simply
demonstrating that there are reputable organizations who use xfs. this
fact provides evidence in support of the accolades bestowed on the
fs. it doesn't make the fs 'right' and neither is the argument presented
that it is 'right'.


 NASA Ames has been using XFS for 16+ years, and still do, on the
 10,240 processor (originally) Columbia super and the archival
 servers.  They're currently running an 800TB CXFS filesystem on SAN
 storage, and local XFS filesystems on 215TB, 175TB, and 65TB direct
 fiber attached storage.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

neither is this an argumentum ad antiquitatem. again all that is being
shown is that xfs has a long history of use again with a reputable
organization. again, it is merely supporting evidence and it is not
being argued that because the organization has used this for x years, it
should necessary continuous to do so because of this fact.


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Cannot output to external monitor

2011-05-01 Thread John Magolske
I'm having trouble getting anything to output from my X40 ThinkPad to
an external VGA monitor. Under X, `xrandr -q` outputs the following
regardless of whether or not the external monitor is plugged in:

   % xrandr -q
  Screen 0: minimum 800 x 600, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
  default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
 1024x7680.0*
 800x60061.0

Pressing Fn+F7 and typing `xrandr --output VGA --auto` has no
effect...the external monitor remains totally blank.

The only way I can get anything to display externally is to plug the
external monitor in, then boot up. In this case the laptop screen
remains blank and the external monitor displays everything -- and
fuzzily, as it's outputting 1024x768 to a 1280x1024 display. And
no combination of alternating Fn+F7 key-presses and variations of
xrandr commands can get the laptop screen to not be blank. I had
to switch Boot Display Device in the BIOS from ThinkPad LCD to
Analog (VGA) or Both for this to work. I would've thought Both
would send output to both the external and internal displays -- and
I thought I had some recollection of that happening -- but my trials
this morning show the Laptop screen remaining blank. In any case,
having to re-boot the machine with the external monitor plugged in
doesn't seem like a reasonable solution.

Thanks for any help,

John

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buon giorno

2011-05-01 Thread marian1...@libero.it

 salve,ho apena instalato il programa Debian,il mio problema e chenon posso 
instalare la mia  webcam-microsoft vx500,modelul 1357,.se po instalare questa 
webcam  su Debian?,questa e la mia domanda,o qualle sono le web cam compatibile 
per debian,vi ringrazio anticipamente

Re: fullscreen video with mencoder

2011-05-01 Thread Jeffrin Jose
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 01:33:20AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 
 What is the resolution of the video?
 What is the resolution of the display?
 
 Before you answer these questions we can only guess what you want.

theresolutionofthevideoisnormally
720x480(source. it  is a VOB file) the  target display is
my  TV which is  1920x1080 capable  and 16/9  capable.  i
will list some of the things i did ...

mencoder Stage.Beauty.VOB  -o Stage.Beauty.avi -sid 0 -oac \
mp3lame -lameopts br=192:cbr:vol=6 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts \
pass=1  -vf crop=720:432:0:72,harddup -ofps 25 -aspect 16:9

when i did the above i got some thing which could be made
to fill screen on my TV without getting egg heads.

actually until now there are two cropping values that has
helped me  is..  704:448:8:18 and 720:432:0:72  . But did
not  calculate  it  myself,i  just  discovered  it  while
applying recommended crops using mplayer -vf cropdetect

So when i apply those  two cropping values to some videos
, i get my result.  But  what iam asking is that , will i
get video to fill my screen  in my wide screen TV for all
my rip's  without black bands  and egg heads.So i  need a
general technique  that works for all  rather than trying
with the two dicovered crop values


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Re: which -dbg to install

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:12:04 +0200, Arno Schuring wrote:

 since updating both gstreamer and alsa this afternoon, I'm having
 regular segfaults in quodlibet. However, since ql has not been updated I
 have no idea against which package I should file a bug.
 
 So, I set out to catch a core dump, and I'm trying to make sense of the
 backtrace but apparently I'm still missing some -dbg files. Here is what
 I have so far:

(...)

 warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error. [Reading
 symbols..]
 Core was generated by `python /usr/bin/quodlibet --start-playing'.
   ^^^

Have you tried to launch the app with no options or just crashes in the 
same manner? :-?

 As you can see, the segfault occurs in a thread without symbols. Will it
 make a difference if I install each and every -dbg package indicated by
 gdb (that's about a zillion-and-one packages), or am I facing a
 corrupted stack?

I agree that installing -dbg packages for gstreamer and gst-python can 
be an insane task -unless you have a testing machine where you can do and 
undo at your wish- :-). I don't know the package but maybe it is possible 
to recompile quodlibet with the symbols on it... just a wild-guess.
 
 I've now reverted to alsa-base from Squeeze, but that shows the same
 problem. Is there another way that I can get more info from a core dump,
 or should I just stick to downgrading/upgrading packages until I've
 found the cause?

Why not just opening a bug report on BTS against quodlibet and wait 
until someone tells you the next step? Should devels/packagers need the 
symbols then also tell you the exact required extra packages to get them.

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Re: Problem with Samba on Squeeze

2011-05-01 Thread Roger Morgan
 From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com

 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 5:15:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Problem with Samba on Squeeze
 
 On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:51:51 -0700, Roger Morgan wrote:
 
  Samba is  running but I can't connect to it, and when I do the following
  test  (from the Samba server):
  smbclient -L servername
  
  the  response (after entering correct password) is: 
  cut here---
   Receiving SMB: Server stopped responding session setup failed: Call
   timed out: server did not respond after 2 milliseconds
  ---end of  response--
 
 (...)
 
 It looks something related to  authentication.
 
 Is there anything interesting at samba logs? I know samba  logs are pretty 
 hard to understand :-) but maybe there is something in there  that give 
 you any clue.
 
Here are the logs for the relevant time. First log.nmbd :
---cut here---
[2011/04/30 18:13:03,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:857(main)
  nmbd version 3.5.6 started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2010
[2011/04/30 18:13:03.057129,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:696(open_sockets)
[2011/04/30 18:13:13,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:857(main)
  nmbd version 3.5.6 started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2010
[2011/04/30 18:13:44.242349,  0] 
nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:395(become_local_master_stage2)
  *
  
  Samba name server LYRA is now a local master browser for workgroup GALAXY on 
subnet 192.168.1.3
  
  *
[2011/04/30 22:55:38.467321,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:71(terminate)
  Got SIGTERM: going down...
[2011/05/01 06:50:24,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:857(main)
  nmbd version 3.5.6 started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2010
--end of log.nmbd extract ---

Then log.smbd:
cut here--start of log.smbd extract---
[2011/04/30 06:23:08,  0] smbd/server.c:1123(main)
  smbd version 3.5.6 started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2010
[2011/04/30 07:53:45.799147,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 08:25:45.948255,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 11:05:46.656557,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 11:37:46.807467,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 13:13:47.238251,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 14:17:47.532892,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 14:49:47.677722,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 15:21:47.821676,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 18:01:50.789490,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/04/30 18:13:03,  0] smbd/server.c:1123(main)
  smbd version 3.5.6 started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2010
[2011/04/30 20:41:49.436355,  0] lib/util_sock.c:1441(get_peer_addr_internal)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2011/05/01 06:50:24,  0] smbd/server.c:1123(main)
  smbd version 3.5.6 started.
---end of log.smbd extract---
I don't understand the getpeername error message.

Roger


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Re: Radeon X1550 64-bit

2011-05-01 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2011/4/30 Joe j...@jretrading.com

 On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:42:15 +0200
 Raffaele Morelli raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I have serious problem with  my ATI RV505 CE [Radeon X1550 64-bit], DE
  freezes randomly and I can't understand the reason.

 Have a look at the driver version. Version 1:6.14.1-1 of
 xserver-xorg-video-radeon on 64 bit sid is broken. Mine does more than
 freeze randomly, certain programs scramble the display instantly. I'm
 using the previous 1:6.13.2-2 without problems.

 Presumably my problem is one of these:

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xserver-xorg-video-radeon;dist=unstable

 --
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I can log from another pc  when the amd64 freeze, I am on debian testing and
now I have downgraded to xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd 1:6.13.1 from squeeze.

The problem seems to be solved...

Regards
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Re: Problem with Samba on Squeeze

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 01 May 2011 10:58:01 -0700, Roger Morgan wrote:

 From: Camaleón
 
 It looks something related to  authentication.
 
 Is there anything interesting at samba logs? I know samba  logs are
 pretty hard to understand :-) but maybe there is something in there 
 that give you any clue.
 
 Here are the logs for the relevant time. 

(...)

Sadly those are pretty generic errors and don't tell much about the cause 
of the failure. Try by increasing samba log level¹ (log level = 3), 
restart samba daemons, run smbclient again and review again the logs.

P.S. 1 - Don't forget to restore to the previous samba log level or your 
disk will be quickly flooded :-)

P.S. 2 - Before sending the logs, review the content to avoid sending 
sensible data (replace/delete anything you don't want to be viewed by 
everyone).

¹http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html#LOGLEVEL

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Lost Ubuntu partitions from grub.cfg. How to most easily recover?

2011-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
When new Ubuntu  was released with the Unity desktop, it was so awful
that I decided to join you in the Debian experience.  So far, so good.
I installed Squeeze from the DVD, then decided I needed some newer
apps and learned about testing and unstable and most things are
going well.

When I did the Debian install, it noticed I had a Windows partition
and an Ubuntu partition with two kernels.  Grub was set and I could
launch any of those OS.  However, after the Debian update to the
testing edition of the kernel, the grub.cfg no longer had my Ubuntu
partitions. It still has the Windows partition.  Don't make fun of my
Windows. I only keep it for TurboTax :).

I don't really want to boot the Ubuntu partition, but I'd like to know
how to get it back.

My Ubuntu was installed in the old-style way, with a boot partition
(/dev/sda3), a root partition (/dev/sda7), and separate partitions for
/opt, /usr/local/ and /var. I've tried to manually put in an entry in
grub.cfg, but I'm not as good at grub2 as I wish.

Here's grub.cfg for the Debian partition, which starts nicely


I can mount the Ubuntu partitions in Debian and see what grub.cfg was
in there.  I *believe* that if I just copy the following into the
Debian grub.cfg, then I would be able to start Ubuntu.

menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic' --class ubuntu --class
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(/dev/sda,msdos3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
2eb8cda6-366c-4ef7-b7da-8ff292ca7e61
linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic
root=UUID=18c56003-c1d4-4fa1-8753-a20bf3034b7e ro   quiet splash
vt.handoff=7
initrd  /initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
}

Right?

I'm not in danger of Breaking any parts that do work now, am i?

And how can this become permanent.  however, the next time Debian
kernel updates, it will disappear again.  How to make it permanent?

grub.cfg says:
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

But in /etc/default/grub, there's nothing about the other OS in grub.cfg.

Ideas?

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Re: Lost Ubuntu partitions from grub.cfg. How to most easily recover?

2011-05-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 01 mai 11, 14:05:16, Paul Johnson wrote:
 
 And how can this become permanent.  however, the next time Debian
 kernel updates, it will disappear again.  How to make it permanent?

If you have os-prober installed (it's recommended by grub-common, it 
should be installed unless you declined or disabled recommends) a simple 
'update-grub' should do the trick and would also work for future kernel 
updates.

If this doesn't work I'm sure the os-prober developer would like to know 
it, so please file a bug.

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Re: Lost Ubuntu partitions from grub.cfg. How to most easily recover?

2011-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 01 May 2011 23:22:04 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

 On Du, 01 mai 11, 14:05:16, Paul Johnson wrote:
 
 And how can this become permanent.  however, the next time Debian
 kernel updates, it will disappear again.  How to make it permanent?
 
 If you have os-prober installed (it's recommended by grub-common, it
 should be installed unless you declined or disabled recommends) a simple
 'update-grub' should do the trick and would also work for future kernel
 updates.
 
 If this doesn't work I'm sure the os-prober developer would like to know
 it, so please file a bug.

I wonder what happened with the old good habit of adding the OS menu 
entries manually like we used to do with GRUB Legacy... I hope that's 
still possible in GRUB2 :-)

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Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 5/1/2011 3:35 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Du, 01 mai 11, 02:34:59, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

[snip various super-stuff running xfs]

I understand that xfs is great for super-computers[1] and stuff, but how
is that relevant to a desktop computer with something like this?


The background info I provided relating to supers was in response to 
Shawn calling my statement of 'quality FS' an 'opinion'.  If XFS isn't a 
quality FS people wouldn't have been using it on $100 million 
supercomputers for over 13 years.  And in that 13 years it has seen vast 
improvements.



$ df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6 9.2G  7.3G  1.5G  84% /
tmpfs1006M  4.0K 1006M   1% /lib/init/rw
udev 1004M  548K 1004M   1% /dev
tmpfs1006M 0 1006M   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs1006M  164K 1006M   1% /tmp
/dev/sda7 9.2G  2.7G  6.1G  31% /media/stable
/dev/sda2  19G  9.9G  7.6G  57% /home
/dev/sda8 104G   79G   26G  76% /home/amp/big

(actually one of those partitions is on xfs, but that's not my point)


The only real downside to using XFS as a primary desktop filesystem is 
tool familiarity and knowledge.  For the casual desktop user XFS may not 
be all that suitable due to this, but any power user will be more than 
happy with it.  As with anything computer related, one needs to read and 
learn about it before taking the plunge.  Users who simply select all 
the defaults during OS installation need not apply.


Regarding desktop suitability, all SGI MIPS graphics workstations from 
1994 onward, including the popular O2 and Octane, used XFS.  The CG 
effects in almost every movie between ~1995 and 2002 were created on SGI 
workstations all using XFS.  ILM used SGI workstations with XFS from 
1994/95 until switching to commodity AMD Opteron systems around 2003/04. 
 I don't know what FS they currently use on their workstations today. 
Given the size of the data sets I'd bet they still use XFS locally, 
though I don't know if they use CXFS on their SAN or another cluster 
filesystem.


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Re: file systems

2011-05-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 5/1/2011 7:57 AM, Chen Wei wrote:


2) performs well on a lots of small files, maildir and extrace linux
kernel source for example.


This was XFS Achilles heal until the introduction of Dave Chinner's 
delayed logging patch in 2.6.35.  Prior to this XFS was absolutely 
horrible with metadata intensive workloads including the two you name 
above.  Such metadata workload performance is now on par with EXT3/4 and 
Reiser.  delaylog is a mount option up to 2.6.38 and is the default in 
2.6.39.


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Re: Lost Ubuntu partitions from grub.cfg. How to most easily recover?

2011-05-01 Thread Siard
Op Sun, 1 May 2011 22:36:09 +0200 Camaleón wrote:
 I wonder what happened with the old good habit of adding the OS menu 
 entries manually like we used to do with GRUB Legacy... I hope that's 
 still possible in GRUB2 :-)

Yes it is.  Make /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober non-executable and manually
add your entries in a file named 09_custom or 11_custom, depending on
the position you want it to have in the Grub2 menu.

The first two lines should always be as in the example below, then add
your entry from line 4 on.


#! /bin/sh -e
exec tail -n +4 $0

menuentry Ubuntu 9.10, kernel 2.6.31-17-generic (on /dev/sdb2) {
set root=(hd1,2)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-generic root=/dev/sdb2 vga=788 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic
}


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Re: xorg problem--dual-head, Debian vs. Ubuntu

2011-05-01 Thread fernão lopes
Hi there!

I was with the same machine and problem. 
t60, with an external monitor - 1366x768.

So, I've copied this xorg.conf (that debian squeeze omits) and changed the
values to my configuration, enlarging the virtual area.

then restarted X, and when I hitted preferences  monitors, and everything
worked well... =)

thanks!

fernão


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Re: Canonical place to configure power management

2011-05-01 Thread Kai Weber
* Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 I think powertop is just giving you some hints on what you can tweak to 
 save your battery. You can ignore them or apply them, that's up to you.

Thanks for the info but you missed my point.

I am aware of the meanings of powetops recommendations. I want to know if any
package in Debian provides an easy way to set settings like that. I thought
pm-utils allows that.

kw


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Re: which -dbg to install

2011-05-01 Thread Arno Schuring
Hi again,

Thanks for the response.

Camaleón (noela...@gmail.com on 2011-05-01 17:46 +):
 On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:12:04 +0200, Arno Schuring wrote:
 
  since updating both gstreamer and alsa this afternoon, I'm having
  regular segfaults in quodlibet. However, since ql has not been
  updated I have no idea against which package I should file a bug.
  
[..]
  warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
  [Reading symbols..]
  Core was generated by `python /usr/bin/quodlibet --start-playing'.
^^^
 
 Have you tried to launch the app with no options or just crashes in
 the same manner? :-?
In fact, the app would not crash while playing but at the end of the
song (and not even on all songs). After fruitlessly digging around for
awhile, I was able to reproduce this with totem and rhythmbox as well.
Even then, it took me about four hours to find the offending package
(liborc).

Long story short, this has been resolved. I have not opened a bug
because a newer version (from incoming.debian.org) already had a fix.
For those interested, I wrote down my experiences here:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gstreamer-maintainers/2011-April/008293.html


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wireless connection problem of BCM 4312 LP-PHY

2011-05-01 Thread eigenroot
Hi all,

I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition which was based on Debian Testing on
my laptop. One problem I found was that my wireless connection was
frequently dropped off after idling. And it was not predictable: sometimes I
left it overnight and the wireless was still good, but sometimes I just left
for 10min and it was off. I used Network Manager (v0.8.3.999), by which the
wireless couldn't be reconnected successfully once it got dropped . Command
lspci -vnn | grep 14e4 gave result:

04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)

And I used the package firmware-b43-lpphy-installer in Debian's repository
to install the wireless driver. Before that I used Fedora 14 on the same
laptop but it didn't have such problem (the wireless driver was installed
from rpmfusion repositories).

Right now I get around this problem by reloading b43 driver once it
happens. But I have no idea whether it was due to the driver itself, or
Network Manager.

Could anyone please help? Thanks very much.


Re: wireless connection problem of BCM 4312 LP-PHY

2011-05-01 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
2011/5/2 eigenroot eigenr...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition which was based on Debian Testing on
 my laptop. One problem I found was that my wireless connection was
 frequently dropped off after idling. And it was not predictable: sometimes I
 left it overnight and the wireless was still good, but sometimes I just left
 for 10min and it was off. I used Network Manager (v0.8.3.999), by which the
 wireless couldn't be reconnected successfully once it got dropped . Command
 lspci -vnn | grep 14e4 gave result:

 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
 LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)

 And I used the package firmware-b43-lpphy-installer in Debian's
 repository to install the wireless driver. Before that I used Fedora 14 on
 the same laptop but it didn't have such problem (the wireless driver was
 installed from rpmfusion repositories).

 Right now I get around this problem by reloading b43 driver once it
 happens. But I have no idea whether it was due to the driver itself, or
 Network Manager.

 Could anyone please help? Thanks very much.


try this:

check the output of iwconfig for your wireless interface have Power
Management:off
if not
# iwconfig eth1 power off

*if your wireless interface = eth1

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Re: wireless connection problem of BCM 4312 LP-PHY

2011-05-01 Thread eigenroot
It was already off, but problems existed.

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote:



 2011/5/2 eigenroot eigenr...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition which was based on Debian Testing on
 my laptop. One problem I found was that my wireless connection was
 frequently dropped off after idling. And it was not predictable: sometimes I
 left it overnight and the wireless was still good, but sometimes I just left
 for 10min and it was off. I used Network Manager (v0.8.3.999), by which the
 wireless couldn't be reconnected successfully once it got dropped . Command
 lspci -vnn | grep 14e4 gave result:

 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
 LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)

 And I used the package firmware-b43-lpphy-installer in Debian's
 repository to install the wireless driver. Before that I used Fedora 14 on
 the same laptop but it didn't have such problem (the wireless driver was
 installed from rpmfusion repositories).

 Right now I get around this problem by reloading b43 driver once it
 happens. But I have no idea whether it was due to the driver itself, or
 Network Manager.

 Could anyone please help? Thanks very much.


 try this:

 check the output of iwconfig for your wireless interface have Power
 Management:off
 if not
 # iwconfig eth1 power off

 *if your wireless interface = eth1

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Re: Roundcube broken after Squeeze upgrade

2011-05-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 5/1/2011 9:51 AM, Camaleón wrote:


Regarding the Suhosin module, it should be disabled by default unless you
are not using Apache web server. Review /usr/share/doc/roundcube-core/
News.Debian.gz file.


Camaleón, thank you.  This is what I needed to know.  I indeed do not 
use Apache, but Lighttpd.


; Transparent Encryption Options
;suhosin.session.encrypt = on   -- default
suhosin.session.encrypt = off   -- after reading the above

The problem is now resolved.

However, this is very strange because everything worked fine under Lenny 
w/ RC 0.3.1 from backports.  Note the RC version didn't change with 
Squeeze.  Also, I checked the date stamps on all the relevant config 
files, and none of those were overwritten by the Squeeze upgrade.


I don't know where to verify it, but I'm guessing that PHP5 in Lenny 
didn't have Suhosin compiled in and enabled by default, but Squeeze 
does.  If this is the case, the Squeeze upgrade should have thrown up a 
warning about this issue.  Allowing a server application to simply be 
totally broken after an upgrade, and leaving it to the SA to figure out 
what broke, with zero errors in any logs to point him/her in the right 
direction, is not acceptable IMO.


Thanks again Camaleón.

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Re: postfix cannot connect to saslauthd

2011-05-01 Thread H Xu

On 2011/5/1 21:41, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 01 May 2011 12:05:47 +0800, H Xu wrote:


On 05/01/2011 08:24 AM, H Xu wrote:



BTW, I was able to send mails from my domain to others, not still not
able to send a message from my domain to my domain.


I'm sorry, there is nothing wrong with the mail transportation from one
host to another. I find out that postfix never uses virtual to do
delivery but always uses local. I've already set
virtual_mailbox_domains in my main.cf. But still it's not working.


Here is the main.cf:


(...)

We need to see the Postfix error log or are you still getting the same
message?

Also, how are you sending the e-mail from Gmail, using Gmail's smtp
server or using your Postfix as gateway? It is vital to know what is your
current mail layout, that is, how are you using Postix.


Hello,

I've found the reason now. virtual_mailbox_domains' value is also in 
mydestination, so that's why postfix always uses local but not virtual. 
It's working now.


Thanks for your help.

Regards,
H Xu
2011/5/2


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