GNOME 3: com evitar-lo?
Hola! Fins ara utilitzava Gnome i més o menys estava satisfet, faig servir el mode focus-follows-mouse, múltiples escriptoris, etc. Ara amb el Gnome 3 sembla que han decidit fer una sèrie de canvis ridículs, com ara eliminar la barra de tasques (de manera que no veus les finestres minimitzades) i altres coses que no tenen cap mena de sentit. Moltes distribucions ja l'han començat a adoptar, entre elles Ubuntu. A Debian suposo que entrarà a Testing aviat. Personalment, no penso utilitzar el Gnome 3 perquè tinc molt clar que no m'agrada i crec que s'han begut l'enteniment. La qüestió és com evitar-lo? Posar els paquets de Gnome en hold potser una idea, però no sé si pot crear complicacions. En fi, m'imagino que no sóc l'únic amb aquest problema i m'agradaria saber els altres què penseu fer? Salut, Ernest -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006124731.GA10070@doriath.local
Re: GNOME 3: com evitar-lo?
Hola, comparteixo al 100% l'opinió de l'Ernest, de fet en Linus Torvalds també sembla estar-hi d'acord. En el meu cas tot apunta que acabaré passant a XFCE. salut xavi 2011/11/6 Ernest Adrogué eadro...@gmx.net Hola! Fins ara utilitzava Gnome i més o menys estava satisfet, faig servir el mode focus-follows-mouse, múltiples escriptoris, etc. Ara amb el Gnome 3 sembla que han decidit fer una sèrie de canvis ridículs, com ara eliminar la barra de tasques (de manera que no veus les finestres minimitzades) i altres coses que no tenen cap mena de sentit. Moltes distribucions ja l'han començat a adoptar, entre elles Ubuntu. A Debian suposo que entrarà a Testing aviat. Personalment, no penso utilitzar el Gnome 3 perquè tinc molt clar que no m'agrada i crec que s'han begut l'enteniment. La qüestió és com evitar-lo? Posar els paquets de Gnome en hold potser una idea, però no sé si pot crear complicacions. En fi, m'imagino que no sóc l'únic amb aquest problema i m'agradaria saber els altres què penseu fer? Salut, Ernest -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006124731.GA10070@doriath.local
Re: GNOME 3: com evitar-lo?
A Diumenge, 6 de novembre de 2011 13:47:31, Ernest Adrogué va escriure: Hola! Fins ara utilitzava Gnome i més o menys estava satisfet, faig servir el mode focus-follows-mouse, múltiples escriptoris, etc. Ara amb el Gnome 3 sembla que han decidit fer una sèrie de canvis ridículs, com ara eliminar la barra de tasques (de manera que no veus les finestres minimitzades) i altres coses que no tenen cap mena de sentit. Moltes distribucions ja l'han començat a adoptar, entre elles Ubuntu. A Debian suposo que entrarà a Testing aviat. Personalment, no penso utilitzar el Gnome 3 perquè tinc molt clar que no m'agrada i crec que s'han begut l'enteniment. La qüestió és com evitar-lo? Posar els paquets de Gnome en hold potser una idea, però no sé si pot crear complicacions. En fi, m'imagino que no sóc l'únic amb aquest problema i m'agradaria saber els altres què penseu fer? Penso que serà complicat, perquè tard o d'hora (més aviat d'hora que tard) l'antic Gnome es deixarà de mantenir i fins i tot d'estar disponible als repositoris. No podràs ni actualitzar la distribució. Sobre què pensem fer no et puc ajudar gaire, perquè no sóc usuari de gnome... -- Cordialment, Orestes Mas.
Re: GNOME 3: com evitar-lo?
Al 06/11/11 14:23, En/na Orestes Mas ha escrit: A Diumenge, 6 de novembre de 2011 13:47:31, Ernest Adrogué va escriure: Hola! Fins ara utilitzava Gnome i més o menys estava satisfet, faig servir el mode focus-follows-mouse, múltiples escriptoris, etc. Ara amb el Gnome 3 sembla que han decidit fer una sèrie de canvis ridículs, com ara eliminar la barra de tasques (de manera que no veus les finestres minimitzades) i altres coses que no tenen cap mena de sentit. Com apunta el Xavi, tens l'alternativa de l'XFCE. Jo fa més de dos anys que em vaig passar a la Lubuntu (LXDE), que per fi és sabor oficial, i també he tastat E17 (en fase betíssima, no m'atreveixo a recomanar-lo, tot i que m'agrada molt). Els dos primers tenen un aspecte força «clàssic», i són lleugers. Si no t'agraden els canvis de Gnome3, potser tampoc no t'entusiasmarà KDE4: el trobo molt més «diferent» encara, tirant a barroc; però, bé, és qüestió d'anar tastant. Bona sort. -- Giorgio Grappa http://anotacionsalmarge.wordpress.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb70700.1010...@ubuntu.cat
[wheezy] initramfs
Re: coupure courant mount /roort/dev failed?:wq
Bonjour, Le samedi 05 novembre 2011, Frédéric ZULIAN a écrit... - J'ai utilisé le CD de rescue (sysrescd) pour acceder à mes partitiions et les copier. Mais il me répond : sda2: couldn't mount because of unsupported optionnal features (240) Quelles options passes tu au mount ? Ton sda2 est gros ? Tu pourrais le copier avec dd|ddrescue, pour en faire une image, avant de faire le fsck ? Car il n'est pas nécessaire, ni recommandé d'ailleurs, de faire le fsck sur une partition montée. As tu utilisé testdisk, ou quelque chose d'équivalent, pour vérifier la table des partitions ? -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006114953.GD17956@espinasse
Re: [wheezy] initramfs
Le 06/11/2011 11:56, Jacques BRIQUET a écrit : Bonjour et bientôt bon appétit, pour le fun, j'ai compilé un nouveau kernel, à priori l'installation s'est bien passé, (étape par étape) au boot, le disque n'est pas reconnu, et j'ai le prompt de l'nitramfs, j'en conclu que ftab n'est pas monté! je peux taper des commandes les choix de mon fichier CONFIG serait-il incomplet? avez-vous une idée? comment savoir si le initrd est incorrect? bonne journée A+ JB Bonjour (miam, scrunch, glup), Comment le noyau est-il compilé ? Il y a plusieurs façons de compiler un noyau pour Debian, avec kernel-package qui requiert un peu de configuration manuelle, avec la cible make deb-pkg qui est inclue dans les sources du noyau (même celles du noyau vanilla de kernel.org), à l'ancienne avec make - make modules_install - make install qui nécessite de prendre soins du chargeur d'amorçage et de l'initramfs soit même. Avez-vous suivi un tutoriel particulier ? (url ?) Il faudrait aussi savoir comment la config a été faite (à partir d'une config existante, en partant de zéro ?), quels sont les messages d'erreurs précis renvoyés lors du démarrage. Bref, quelques infos supplémentaires aiderait beaucoup à diagnostiquer le problème. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb67d2f.6050...@googlemail.com
Re: [Re: [wheezy] initramfs]
Le 06/11/2011 14:11, Jacques BRIQUET a écrit : bonjour, j'ai compilé à l'ancienne une fois avec make all une autre fois avec make -j 16, puis make dep (plus nécessaire), puis make modules, ensuite make modules_install j'ai regardé dans /boot et grub.cfg, à priori c'éest OK donc j'ai validé les changement de grub par update-grub j'ai rebooté, jai: Loading, please wait... Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) -Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) -Check root= (did the system wait for the right device?) -Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uid/xx does not exit. Dropping to a shell! BusyBox v1.18.5 Debian 1:1.18.5-1) built_in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of build-in commands. /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) la je peux taper quelques commandes, pour le rootdelay, j'ai une 3.0.0.1 qui tourne OKI pour le chek root, je pense que c'est dépendant de la ligne précédente, ftab ne peut être monté mon fichier .config, j'ai pris celui de la 3.0.0.1!! au moins je suis sur qu'il est bon je n'ai pas utilisé make-kpkg je n'ai pas trouvé la syntaxe pour prendre en compte les 8 cores (make -j 16 en 13mn) je peux refaire mon initrd mais est-ce la bonne piste? je pense qu'il faut repartir du .config de la version 3.0.0.1 et en construire un autre! merci d'avoir répondu mes dernières compiles kernel datent de 2.2 et 2.4 sur des linux différents A+ JB (Je redirige vers la liste un message reçu en direct) Si le fichier .config (avec make oldconfig) est celui d'un 3.* Debian on peut imaginer que les options concernant les modules nécessaires au montage de la racine / sont bonnes. Il y a bien un initrd correspondant au noyau compilé, ce n'est pas l'ancien qui est chargé ? Le message ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uid/xx does not exit fait penser à une simple erreur d'adressage de la partition racine. Si le noyau Debian démarre sans problème on peut imaginer que le fstab est correctement renseigné, je ne vois pas pourquoi mkinitramfs irait chercher un UUID farfelu juste pour le noyau compilé. Depuis le shell busybox il est possible de monter la partition racine sur /, et de poursuivre le démarrage avec un exec /sbin/init. Ça permettra de voir si une fois le problème d'adressage de la partition racine réglé le démarrage se poursuit normalement. Il y a une foule de tutoriels pour compiler son noyau en Anglais, mon préféré pour Debian est sans doute [1] . En Français je connais [2] pour kernel-package, [3] pour la méthode make deb-pkg, et [4] pour la méthode à l'ancienne. [1] http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm [2] http://www.linuxpedia.fr/doku.php/debian/debian_compilation_noyau [3] http://www.linuxpedia.fr/doku.php/debian/debian_compilation_noyau_facile [4] http://www.linuxpedia.fr/doku.php/expert/recompilation_noyau -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb6dd88.6030...@googlemail.com
Mimetypes
Salut. Je voudrais que Gedit colorise automatiquement les fichiers .gvr que j'édite (.gvr, pour GvRng, un outil d'initiation à l'algorithmique et la programmation que j'utilise avec mes élèves). L'application fournit des fichiers de langage (plusieurs, en fait, cela dépend de la langue des locales) qui sont dans ~/.gnome2/gtksourceview-1.0/language-specs/, mais pas de fichier .xml mime-type. J'en ai créé un qui ressemble à ça : ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? mime-info xmlns=http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/shared-mime-info; mime-type type=text/x-gvr_eng sub-class-of type=text/plain/ commentGvRng Source Code/comment glob pattern=*.gvr/ /mime-type /mime-info puis j'ai mis à jour la base de données avec update-mime-database /usr/share/mime/ mais ça ne change rien, il me semble. Qu'ai-je fait de traviole ? D'avance merci. \bye -- Nicolas FRANCOIS | /\ http://nicolas.francois.free.fr | |__| X--/\\ We are the Micro$oft. _\_V Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. darthvader penguin -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006212359.736a1ddb@gaston
Re: Problème de clavier
Jean-Yves F. Barbier a dit dans un souffle : On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:34:17 +0300 Christophe Gallaire zam...@gmail.com wrote: J'ai essayé toutes les listes proposées sur la solution mais rien y fait. Je n'ai pas comprendu qu'est ce qui se passe... Si je comprend bien, c'est la galère (DSL, pas pu m'empêcher:) Est-ce que tu as bien essayé de remplacer le driver 'kdb' par 'evdev' et de ne laisser que les sections: * InputDevice = Keyboard * InputDevice = mouse (si besoin est) * Device = Carte graphique dans xorg.conf? Qq chose comme ça: ### KEYBOARD Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver evdev Option XkbRulesxorg Option XkbModelpc104 Option XkbLayout fr # Touche COMPOSE (pour avoir certaines accentuées) = LEFT_W$ Option XkbOptions compose:lwin Option XkbVariant oss EndSection ### MOUSE Section InputDevice # Logitech Optical 3 BTs + Wheel Identifier Mouse0 Driver evdev Option Protocolauto # Chger pr une résol. plus musclée Option Resolution 3500 EndSection ### GC Section Device Identifier NVIDIA Driver nouveau EndSection ### EOF Bonsoir, J'ai été un peu long à répondre mais voilà... rien de nouveau même en reprenant le fichier xorg.conf au minimum, en suivant tes conseils kdb remplacé par evdev. C'est quand même incroyable... y a bien un truc qui cloche... @+ Christophe -- Christophe Gallaire Attention ! Suppression des mails entrants dont la taille est supérieure à 2Mo ! N'envoyez, s'il vous plaît, que des pièces jointes en formats ouverts. --- Nouveau carnet de route : http://www.road2mayotte.org/calepin/ --- Timeline Identi.ca : https://identi.ca/road2mayotte/ --- Clé de chiffrement : 7803 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mimetypes
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 21:23:59 +0100 Nicolas FRANCOIS nicolas.franc...@free.fr wrote: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? mime-info xmlns=http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/shared-mime-info; mime-type type=text/x-gvr_eng sub-class-of type=text/plain/ commentGvRng Source Code/comment glob pattern=*.gvr/ /mime-type /mime-info Qu'ai-je fait de traviole ? Confondu un fichier XML avec un MIME: http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/NewLanguage -- Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin. -- Michael O'Donohugh -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006222042.5d39649d@anubis.defcon1
Re: Problème de clavier
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 00:07:10 +0300 Christophe Gallaire zam...@gmail.com wrote: J'ai été un peu long à répondre mais voilà... rien de nouveau même en reprenant le fichier xorg.conf au minimum, en suivant tes conseils kdb remplacé par evdev. Là, je ne vois plus. C'est quand même incroyable... y a bien un truc qui cloche... L'élément qui cloche le plus est en Gal l'interface entre la chaise et le clavier. Reprends tout à zéro, en ne modifiant les choses que 1/1 et en validant chaque étape. Eventuellement purge les packages de X et réinstalle-les (au cas où un fichier aurait été endommagé ou serait manquant). -- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006222627.3041d790@anubis.defcon1
Re: Mimetypes
Le Sun, 6 Nov 2011 22:20:42 +0100, Jean-Yves F. Barbier 12u...@gmail.com a écrit : Qu'ai-je fait de traviole ? Confondu un fichier XML avec un MIME: http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/NewLanguage Merci pour le lien. J'ai été faire un tour sur le site de Gnome, mais la doc que j'avais trouvé pointait sur un lien mort. Encore merci. \bye -- Nicolas FRANCOIS | /\ http://nicolas.francois.free.fr | |__| X--/\\ We are the Micro$oft. _\_V Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. darthvader penguin -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2007000150.62b670d7@gaston
Re: Problème de clavier
Jean-Yves F. Barbier a dit dans un souffle : On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 00:07:10 +0300 Christophe Gallaire zam...@gmail.com wrote: J'ai été un peu long à répondre mais voilà... rien de nouveau même en reprenant le fichier xorg.conf au minimum, en suivant tes conseils kdb remplacé par evdev. Là, je ne vois plus. C'est quand même incroyable... y a bien un truc qui cloche... L'élément qui cloche le plus est en Gal l'interface entre la chaise et le clavier. Reprends tout à zéro, en ne modifiant les choses que 1/1 et en validant chaque étape. Eventuellement purge les packages de X et réinstalle-les (au cas où un fichier aurait été endommagé ou serait manquant). Euh... que l'agent humain soit, dans la majorité des cas, l'élément qui cloche, aucun souci pour le reconnaître. Mais là, je n'ai rien fait pour en arriver là. Cest une mise à jour qui a créé le problème, pas moi. Bien entendu, c'est moi qui aie effectué cette mise à jour... Je vais tout reprendre... je vais attendre d'avoir une connexion digne de ce nom et je vais tout virer... parce que c'est bougrement handicapant. J'ai aussi depuis cette mise à jour un problème avec Pelican, mon moteur de blog : CRITICAL: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 8: ordinal not in range(128) Manifestement, c'est un paquet lié à Python qui pose problème... ou c'est lié à mon problème de clavier. @+ Christophe -- Christophe Gallaire Attention ! Suppression des mails entrants dont la taille est supérieure à 2Mo ! N'envoyez, s'il vous plaît, que des pièces jointes en formats ouverts. --- Nouveau carnet de route : http://www.road2mayotte.org/calepin/ --- Timeline Identi.ca : https://identi.ca/road2mayotte/ --- Clé de chiffrement : 7803 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problème de clavier
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 07:46:19 +0300 Christophe Gallaire zam...@gmail.com wrote: ... et je vais tout virer... parce que c'est bougrement handicapant. J'ai aussi depuis cette mise à jour un problème avec Pelican, mon moteur de blog : CRITICAL: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 8: ordinal not in range(128) Manifestement, c'est un paquet lié à Python qui pose problème... ou c'est lié à mon problème de clavier. Il faut le jumeler à FISH pour qu'il marche bien :) Nan, j'déconne. Il semble que ton FS soit en UTF8 et pas le codage des fichiers Python, 'gade s'il ne manquerait pas du -*- coding: utf-8 -*- en début des fichiers. -- BOFH excuse #66: bit bucket overflow -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2007060013.1d7901ca@anubis.defcon1
Re: Santé des SSD et SSD plus généralement
Bonjour, Encore merci pour vos réponses. Une dernière relance. Et donc je vous pose la question, d'après vous dois-je apporter credit à ces indicateurs ou simplement au fait que le test SMART passe ? Quelqu'un a t'il de l'expérience en particulier avec le SMART et les SSD ? les SSD OCZ ? Thibaut signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Nettoyage du spam: anciennes archives de debian-user-french
Bonjour à tou(te)s, Dans le processus de nettoyage de spam, je vois que certain(e)s d'entre vous relisent ponctuellement les anciennes archives de nos listes de diffusion. Par contre, il est relativement inutile de relire les archives pour les mois où 5 ou plus personnes ont déjà fait la relecture. En effet, les spams alors signalés ont en principe été traités et vous n'allez rien trouver ou presque. Ainsi, debian-l10n-french et debian-devel-french n'ont plus besoin de relectures (à part bien sûr une fois chaque mois pour le nouveau mois) A contrario, les anciennes archives de debian-user-french ont toujours besoin d'être traitées : selon les cas, par une, deux, trois, voire quatre personnes, encore. debian-user-french est une liste au traffic élevé (et il était encore plus élevé dans le passé), donc c'est un très gros travail. Personnellement, je traite un mois ou deux d'archives, chaque semaine. Cependant, si plusieurs s'y mettent, on peut avancer assez vite. Le tableau d'avancement est sur http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/FrenchSpamClean Merci d'avance pour votre coopération. J'espère bien trouver plein de signalements de spams à traiter les prochaines dimanches...:-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ¿Cómo acceder a localhost:8080 con apache 2.2? [Solucionado]
El Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:22:26 -0500, Juan Carlos Villegas Botero escribió: Encontré la solución. Resulta que estaba poniendo: Listen 80 Listen 8080 Eso es correcto. Pero de hecho apache ya estaba escuchando el puerto 80, entonces con esa línea el sistema intentaba abrirlo de nuevo pero ya estaba en uso (por él mismo). (...) Pues habrás debido de hacer algún cambio manual porque el archivo /etc/ apache2/ports.conf viene con el Listen 80 de serie y funciona correctamente. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html#ipport Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.09.40...@gmail.com
Problemas instalación Debian Testing amd64 con ATI Radeon HD 6450
¡Buenas a todos! Pero bueno, triste, muy pero que muy triste por mi parte. Estoy desde Gmail, quitando el texto enriquecido... si hay problemas, avisadme y me pongo en Thunderbird. Expongo el caso Ayer me compré un nuevo sobremesa para la sustitución del HP 550 que tenía (gracias a él, por el tema del wifi, os conocí a vosotros... de antemano, muchas gracias a todos los integrantes de la lista por su ayuda). Bien, primeramente, os voy a poner todas las características del ordenador. sonic@tornado-01:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b5) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev b5) 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 6 (rev b5) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation H61 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Caicos [AMD RADEON HD 6450] 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc NI Caicos HDMI Audio [AMD RADEON HD 6450] 03:00.0 USB Controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042 SuperSpeed USB Host Controller 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) sonic@tornado-01:~$ Bien, ahora comento. Intenté instalar una Debian Testing amd64. Instala bien (con entorno gráfico GNOME + Utilidades estándar del sistema+ kernel 3 de amd64), pero justo en el momento en el que aparece el Waiting for dev to be fully populated aparecen tres líneas de error pero híper-rápidas (imposible de leer...) y de repente, la pantalla se convierte como en un enorme escupitajo de color gris. El sistema sigue cargando, pero yo no veo absolutamente nada, impidiendo realizar cualquier tipo de acción. Probé ahora arrancando debian con el modo a prueba de fallos... y tampoco, exactamente el mismo percal, el escupitajo gris. Apunte importante: intenté probar lo de parar el arrancar con Ctrl+S y demás que vi en un correo antiguo de la lista para detener el booteo [1] pero... decir que no funciona, no. ¿Qué hago? Bueno, pues voy a daros alguna pista más. Instalé (y de hecho está) instalado Ubuntu 11.10 32-bit con Unity en 2D. ¿Por qué no en 3D? Porque se congela si le someto a mucha carga. Hace un parpadeo negro y.. ¡tachán, congelada imagen! Probé a instalar el controlador fglrx de la tarjeta gráfica en Ubuntu, pero como el que escucha llover para el sistema de Canonical, nada. Aunque instalarlo provocó que Unity 2D sí funcionara sin inconvientes. Instalé Linux Mint Katya 64-bit antes. Desde allí, pude comprobar que el error era de la Radeon. En los momentos de bloqueo de pantalla (como le sucedía a Ubuntu) aparecía este triste mensaje (OJO: No es mío. Pero como eliminé Linux Mint, para que os hagáis una leve idea. Aparecía como 500 veces repetido): kernel: [ 1387.684308] radeon :01:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10020msec kernel: [ 1387.684319] [ cut here ] kernel: [ 1387.684365] WARNING: at drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_fence.c:267 radeon_fence_wait+0x3fb/0x430 [radeon]() kernel: [ 1387.684372] Hardware name: kernel: [ 1387.684376] GPU lockup (waiting for 0x000F3F30 last fence id 0x000F3F2B) kernel: [ 1387.684382] Modules linked in: bnep microcode tpm_infineon virtio_net virtio virtio_ring kvm_intel kvm radeon ttm drm_kms_helper [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] kernel: [ 1387.684376] GPU lockup (waiting for 0x000F3F30 last fence id 0x000F3F2B) kernel: [ 1387.684382] Modules linked in: bnep microcode tpm_infineon virtio_net virtio virtio_ring kvm_intel kvm radeon ttm drm_kms_helper [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] kernel: [ 1387.684411] Pid: 1221, comm: X Tainted: GW 3.1.0-rc4 #2 kernel: [ 1387.684417] Call Trace: kernel: [ 1387.684434] [8104da0f] warn_slowpath_common+0x7f/0xc0 kernel: [ 1387.68] [8104db06] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x46/0x50 kernel: [ 1387.684478] [a005de3b] radeon_fence_wait+0x3fb/0x430 [radeon] kernel: [ 1387.684490]
Re: Problemas instalación Debian Testing amd64 con ATI Radeon HD 6450
El Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:40:49 +0100, SM Baby Siabef escribió: ¡Buenas a todos! Holas :-) Pero bueno, triste, muy pero que muy triste por mi parte. Estoy desde Gmail, quitando el texto enriquecido... si hay problemas, avisadme y me pongo en Thunderbird. Expongo el caso El mensaje ha salido perfecto. Gracias por tenerlo en cuenta... ya sé que soy un poco pesadita con eso del formato y demás pero da gusto leer mensajes como este, bien documentados y sin formato html. Ayer me compré un nuevo sobremesa para la sustitución del HP 550 que tenía (gracias a él, por el tema del wifi, os conocí a vosotros... de antemano, muchas gracias a todos los integrantes de la lista por su ayuda). Bien, primeramente, os voy a poner todas las características del ordenador. sonic@tornado-01:~$ lspci (...) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Caicos [AMD RADEON HD 6450] Ahí está la susodicha. Bien, ahora comento. Intenté instalar una Debian Testing amd64. Instala bien (con entorno gráfico GNOME + Utilidades estándar del sistema+ kernel 3 de amd64), pero justo en el momento en el que aparece el Waiting for dev to be fully populated aparecen tres líneas de error pero híper-rápidas (imposible de leer...) y de repente, la pantalla se convierte como en un enorme escupitajo de color gris. El sistema sigue cargando, pero yo no veo absolutamente nada, impidiendo realizar cualquier tipo de acción. (...) He leído el resto del correo pero me parece que por lo que explicas te podría estar mordiendo este bug de Xorg: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40103 En cuanto al registro (para que puedas ver el error exacto) podrías tenerlo en /var/log/Xorg.0.log o en el /var/log/dmesg, y si no aparece ahí, puedes pasar al kernel esta opción: boot_delay=1000 En GRUB, te pones sobre la entrada del kernel que quieres iniciar y pulsas e (edición), buscas la línea del kernel, le quitas la opción de quiet y añades eso (... ro boot_delay=1000) y pulsas F10 -creo que es F10- para iniciar la carga del sistema. Te irá mostrando los mensajes pero muy lentamente, ten paciencia... coge una cámara de fotos y cuando veas el error ¡zasca! le haces una fotico. Bien, mi objetivo de esta semana es claro: instalar Debian Testing (o mejor stable, no sé...) en el sobremesa. No quiero amargar más a mi hermano que menuda tunda le llevo dada intentando solucionarle el problema de marras (le he dicho que lo voy a intentar en 2 días, para darle un descansito XD) Sabiendo todo esto que os he dado ¿alguna clave de lo que pueda hacer? Porque no poder ni trabajar ni arrancar sin entorno gráfico porque aparezca en gris la pantalla directamente... me da que... va a ser tremendamente complicado :( Es complicado trabajar sin entorno gráfico pero no imposible, a no ser que las consolas (tty) tampoco te dejen trabajar porque la pantalla esté igualmente gris. Cuando inicies, salta a la tty1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) y si la consola también está dañada, prueba a desactivar el KMS (añade nomodeset en la línea del kernel de GRUB) y si esto tampoco funciona, recuerda que tienes ssh, es decir, que puedes trabajar en tu equipo desde otro :-) ¿Qué haría yo? 1º Probar con una LiveCD de Squeeze. Si carga bien y no tienes ganas de guerras púnicas, instalaría la estable. 2º Si prefieres darle una oportunidad a wheezy y confirmas que se trata del bug de Xorg, probaría a instalar el kernel donde supuestamente se ha aplicado el parche (v3.1-rc9) o aplicar el parche que indican. Compilar e instalar un kernel en Debian es muy sencillo hasta para hacerlo desde línea de comandos. Si quieres más información sobre esta opción, me dices. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.11.43...@gmail.com
Re: Squid + transparente + SSL
William Alexander Brito Viñas escribió, El 05/11/11 15:33: Es un tema viejo y profusamente tratado en internet. Googleando nos encontramos muchas paginas que tratan el tema, pero hasta ahora no he tenido suerte encontrando ninguna que resuelva el problema satisfactoriamente. (,,,) Hasta aqui, el resultado es: A) Las peticiones HTTP, squid las maneja OK, pero con https obtenengo un aviso en el navegador advirtiendo sobre el certificado autofirmado. Hasta aqui nada inesperado pero ...usando Firefox, si confirmo la excepción, acto seguido se obtiene un error en el navegador avisando que la pagina se está redirigiendo hacia sí misma causando un ciclo infinito. Los logs de squid lucen completamente normales. B) Si deshabilitamos la opcion https_port, y ponemos el proxy en modo NO-TRANSPARENTE, se configura en el navegador de cualquier maquina en $LOCAL_LAN y todo(HTTP, HTTPS) funciona OK. Evidentemente me falto algo pero no puedo determinar que es. Gracias por su tiempo a todos que leyeron todo esto. Gracias infinitas a los que respondan con alguna idea útil. Hola, necesitas la versión 3.1 para poder descifrar las peticiones SSL (y en los repos de debian no está): http://www.squid-cache.org/Versions/v3/3.1/RELEASENOTES.html#ss2.7 Googleando un poco, con este artículo quizás te apañes: http://dvas0004.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/squid-transparent-ssl-interception/ ciao -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb696a7.7080...@gmail.com
Plugins de Iceweasel en Wheezy
Hola, A ver si alguien me puede confirmar/desmentir este punto. Si me confirmáis que os pasa lo mismo, abro un informe fallo. Me acabo de dar cuenta de que en Wheezy (Iceweasel 7.0.1, 32 bits) no puedo configurar el plugin de flash player como predeterminado aún cuando lo tengo instalado en el directorio ~/.mozilla/firefox/[perfil]/plugins/ libflashplayer.so. En su lugar, Icewasel otorga preferencia a Gnash: - Si voy a about:plugins veo que Gnash está por delante de Flash player y al cargar cualquier animación o vídeo en Flash efectivamente se carga el plugin de Gnash. - Si desactivo el plugin de Gnash, se carga correctamente el de Adobe. En lenny lo tengo funcionando sin problemas, vamos, que el directorio de plugins del usuario tiene preferencia sobre el global /usr/lib/mozilla/ plugins. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.14.35...@gmail.com
Re: ¿Cómo acceder a localhost:8080 con apache 2.2? [Solucionado]
On 06/11/11 04:40, Camaleón wrote: El Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:22:26 -0500, Juan Carlos Villegas Botero escribió: Encontré la solución. Resulta que estaba poniendo: Listen 80 Listen 8080 Eso es correcto. Pero de hecho apache ya estaba escuchando el puerto 80, entonces con esa línea el sistema intentaba abrirlo de nuevo pero ya estaba en uso (por él mismo). (...) Pues habrás debido de hacer algún cambio manual porque el archivo /etc/ apache2/ports.conf viene con el Listen 80 de serie y funciona correctamente. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html#ipport Saludos, Es correcto, este cambio lo hice en /etc/apache2/sites-available/default -- Juan Carlos Villegas Botero www.PapayaMedia.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb6b849.4000...@papayamedia.com
Re: Plugins de Iceweasel en Wheezy
2011/11/6 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: Hola, A ver si alguien me puede confirmar/desmentir este punto. Si me confirmáis que os pasa lo mismo, abro un informe fallo. Me acabo de dar cuenta de que en Wheezy (Iceweasel 7.0.1, 32 bits) no puedo configurar el plugin de flash player como predeterminado aún cuando lo tengo instalado en el directorio ~/.mozilla/firefox/[perfil]/plugins/ libflashplayer.so. En su lugar, Icewasel otorga preferencia a Gnash: - Si voy a about:plugins veo que Gnash está por delante de Flash player y al cargar cualquier animación o vídeo en Flash efectivamente se carga el plugin de Gnash. - Si desactivo el plugin de Gnash, se carga correctamente el de Adobe. En lenny lo tengo funcionando sin problemas, vamos, que el directorio de plugins del usuario tiene preferencia sobre el global /usr/lib/mozilla/ plugins. En Sid me está funcionando bien, tal y como indicas que debería funcionar, el directorio plugins del home toma preferencia. Si lo quieres para todo el sistema imagino que sabrás que está el update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so ... Un saludo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cal5ymzqhqe8qewajacwkffjx570eoprcnn-__59tbexqj1t...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Plugins de Iceweasel en Wheezy
El día 6 de noviembre de 2011 18:54, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com escribió: 2011/11/6 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: Hola, A ver si alguien me puede confirmar/desmentir este punto. Si me confirmáis que os pasa lo mismo, abro un informe fallo. Me acabo de dar cuenta de que en Wheezy (Iceweasel 7.0.1, 32 bits) no puedo configurar el plugin de flash player como predeterminado aún cuando lo tengo instalado en el directorio ~/.mozilla/firefox/[perfil]/plugins/ libflashplayer.so. En su lugar, Icewasel otorga preferencia a Gnash: - Si voy a about:plugins veo que Gnash está por delante de Flash player y al cargar cualquier animación o vídeo en Flash efectivamente se carga el plugin de Gnash. - Si desactivo el plugin de Gnash, se carga correctamente el de Adobe. En lenny lo tengo funcionando sin problemas, vamos, que el directorio de plugins del usuario tiene preferencia sobre el global /usr/lib/mozilla/ plugins. En Sid me está funcionando bien, tal y como indicas que debería funcionar, el directorio plugins del home toma preferencia. Lo mismo en mi wheezy, tengo el flash 11,0,1,152 y el gnash 0.8.10, es más en mi about:plugins no me aparece para nada el gnash. Lo único raro es que en epiphany nada de nada de flash. Si lo quieres para todo el sistema imagino que sabrás que está el update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so ... Un saludo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cal5ymzqhqe8qewajacwkffjx570eoprcnn-__59tbexqj1t...@mail.gmail.com -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaizax7xjzzwjhzfrbkyh-fofkcfd1dh-3sivfn387ushe9...@mail.gmail.com
[OT] Openprinting.org
Hej! Är den sidan nerlagd ? Tycker den har varit down for maintenance ganska länge nu. -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CADT_Qgt26so7FrG2-us1H5QqQfeq5cqps8g8cdH=zkf1tkm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Servidor de senhas.
Bom dia Em 5 de novembro de 2011 12:32, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu: Saudações. Na empresa que trabalho temos aproximadamente 50 servidores sendo 30 locais e o restante fora, alguns são Linux, alguns FreeBSD e até 2 rWindows2008 Vez ou outra surge a necessidade de trocar senha de root desses servidores, seja por troca de funcionários ou simplesmente por segurança. Hoje faço isso máquina a máquina. Quero mudar a forma de acesso fazendo com que cada técnico acesse as máquinas utilizando um usuário próprio com poderes de root, mas tenho que centralizar isso em um único local para que eu não precise ir a cada servidor para alterar a senha. Inclusive a senha de root, se possível. Quais as opções sugeridas? para as maquinas LInux eu pensaria no Openldap, pois vc pode cadastrar os usuarios com poder de root usando openldap+sudo/ldap. agora integrar tudo com o windows... humm talvez com kerberos..., mas não tenho certeza pois nunca pensei no assunto... Estou googlando isso, mas quero ouvir sugestões também. Obrigado. -- Cleber Ianes cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-**requ...@lists.debian.orgdebian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**4eb5490c@yahoo.com.brhttp://lists.debian.org/4eb5490c@yahoo.com.br
Re: using kernel 3.0.1+
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 04:41:22PM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: I've a system with a i5 2520m (Intel Sandybridge) and written down a few notes about it in the Debian wiki. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/LatitudeE6420/squeeze In short, as other people all ready wrote, you'll have to use at least the kernel from backports (2.6.39 currently) but I guess you'll also need the X.org backport (thanks to KiBi for providing it). The most annoying part is the requirement of a new kernel+non-free to get at least ethernet working. After that it's a lot easier to get the rest going. agree. Squeeze doesn't support Atheros AR8151 NIC on my new system too, I have to install testing. Besides the 3.x kernel, other utils, lm-sensor for example, support for i5 cpu better in testing. -- Chen Wei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006073747.GA2214@Tungsten.DarkStar
Re: special device does not exist
On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 02:35:57AM +, T o n g wrote: Did you recently change the partition table on that device? That will sometimes cause the kernel to be out of sync with the device. Bingo! I remember it was a long time ago that I changed the partition. But apparently it is not long enough to beat my last reboot: I found UUID makes life easier. -- Chen Wei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006074055.GB2214@Tungsten.DarkStar
Re: special device does not exist
Chen Wei wrote: T o n g wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Did you recently change the partition table on that device? That will sometimes cause the kernel to be out of sync with the device. Bingo! I remember it was a long time ago that I changed the partition. But apparently it is not long enough to beat my last reboot: I found UUID makes life easier. UUIDs have nothing to do with the Linux kernel being in sync with the device's partition table. The UUIDs come into action afterward. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
flashplugin-nonfree or mozilla-flashplugin?
Hi all, is there a difference between flashplugin-nonfree and mozilla-flashplugin? As far as I saw, both are using flash-files from adobe.com (identical files but with diffferent names), although mozilla-flashplugin offers additionally configuration options (and packages). But besides this, I could not see any other (technical) difference. Which one is recommended? Greetings Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20061114.46704.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: Kdesud locking up, JMicron card reader not working, USB 3 Controller stops working after resuming, horizontal tearing on fullscreen
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:28:48 -0200, M. wrote: Hello Camaleón, hello list, I had to search for this post on the interwebs, as I'm not subscribed. But finally a good soul answered me! Thanks, Camaleón! :-) You're welcome :-) I know you're not subscribed to this list (me neither) but you can still reply to the thread you opened instead posting a new message. I say this because this new message is now unthreaded, with bad quoting -I will try to manually correct this- and with not further references so I have to search your first posting to remember the topic... So here it goes: 1) I use KDE 4.6, the latest version from unstable, and synaptic to install packages. synaptic needs sudo permissions, and KDE does that using kdesud. The problem is that sometimes the kdesud process hangs, and every other call to kdesud gets stalled. I have to go to the terminal and kill it by hand - after doing that, synaptic and any other process that calls kdesud works fine. This happens on ALL debian unstable installations, both desktop and laptop. Is that happening regardless of the command you run with kdesu or just when you launch Synaptic? The only program that I' aware that's running kdesud is synaptic, so I dunno. You can invoke kdesu (or kdesudo) to run whatever program you want with root's permissions, not just Synaptic ;-). Kdesu is like su (or sudo) but aimed to run GUI based applications. So, if you run kdesu kwrite it will ask for root's password and then will launch kwrite as root (man kdesu if you are interested in this application). Note: if you run kdesudo kwrite it will ask for your user's password instead the root's one, as long as sudo has been properly configured in your system. 2) The laptop has a JMicron card reader that only works if the card is inserted at boot time. Mmm... what's dmesg output when you connect a card? Is it detected/ mounted? NO dmesg output. Not detected, not mounted, not anything. That's weird. You mean that when you insert a card, once the computer has booted, there is no system reaction at all? Have you tried with different media types (SD, MMC, Memory Stick...)? Are you putting the card in the right position (upside down or face up)? I ask this because some embedded card readers have the wire contacts at the top and others at the bottom :-) 3) The USB 3 controller on the laptop never worked correctly. It is USB controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03) USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06) The two USB 3 ports never worked correctly: they disconnect or never connect usb peripherals, giving xhci_hcd errors like [ 6135.109318] xhci_hcd :05:00.0: WARN: short transfer on control ep [ 6135.112271] xhci_hcd :05:00.0: WARN: short transfer on control ep [ 6135.115274] xhci_hcd :05:00.0: WARN: short transfer on control ep (...) I have commented in another thread about a similar problem: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/.../msg02561.html I've blacklisted xhci_hcd, and so far the controller hasn't acted up. But this gonna take longer to test. If the USB ports are behaving okay regardless the above error you don't need to worry. I have read that these are harmless kernel messages that should go away in the next kernel releases. But if you were having problems with your USB 3.0 devices, this is something worth to report. Blacklisting the USB 3.0 module is a by-pass more than a real solution. 4) This happens with all video applications on KDE, VLC, mplayer, etc. When playing in fullscreen, both machines (with Nvidia graphics cards and the driver from Nvidia), with compositing or not, with opengl backend or not, vsync enabled or not, any video shows horizontal tearing. For this one I would start debugging a driver issue by loading nouveau instead nvidia. If both drivers experience the same it can be something pointing to Xorg :-? The last time I tried to install nouveau, it tried to remove all nvidia packages, and after that, it didn't work - black screen, no output, no X, no console. I'll try again, but I reported this to the kde bug tracking, and they're also trying to figure it out. So far, no luck. Use a Debian LiveCD, it will load Nouveau drivers and you can test if the same happens from here without needing to mess your current running system by switching between the two VGA drivers. Please CC me as I'm not subscribed to the list. Sorry, I can't :-( I had to search this on a weird forum, but at least I found it. Why you can't CC me? Because my newsreader does not provide such option :-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.10.16...@gmail.com
Re: flashplugin-nonfree or mozilla-flashplugin?
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:14:46 +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: is there a difference between flashplugin-nonfree and mozilla-flashplugin? I only know about the former. Where have you seen the other? :-? (searching...) Ah, it's from D-M. As far as I saw, both are using flash-files from adobe.com (identical files but with diffferent names), although mozilla-flashplugin offers additionally configuration options (and packages). But besides this, I could not see any other (technical) difference. Which one is recommended? They both should provide the same but I still prefer to go to Adobe site an get the file from there. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.10.23...@gmail.com
Re: Kdesud locking up, JMicron card reader not working, USB 3 Controller stops working after resuming, horizontal tearing on fullscreen
2) The laptop has a JMicron card reader that only works if the card is inserted at boot time. Mmm... what's dmesg output when you connect a card? Is it detected/ mounted? NO dmesg output. Not detected, not mounted, not anything. That's weird. You mean that when you insert a card, once the computer has booted, there is no system reaction at all? Have you tried with different media types (SD, MMC, Memory Stick...)? Are you putting the card in the right position (upside down or face up)? I ask this because some embedded card readers have the wire contacts at the top and others at the bottom :-) I suppose, your jMicron Cardreader needs a kernel module. Check (without card) if it is loaded. If not, reboot with an inserted card, and check the difference. Loaded kernelmoduels are shown with the command lsmod. If in second case, the module ios loaded, and in first case not, try the following two solutiuons: 1. add the module in /etc/modules, reboot and try again. if it does not help, then 2. build an own kernel and add the required module into the kernel (not as a modul, build it directly into it), reboot, start the new kernel and try again. 3. Check your kernel version, I suggest to use 3.0 4) This happens with all video applications on KDE, VLC, mplayer, etc. When playing in fullscreen, both machines (with Nvidia graphics cards and the driver from Nvidia), with compositing or not, with opengl backend or not, vsync enabled or not, any video shows horizontal tearing. For this one I would start debugging a driver issue by loading nouveau instead nvidia. If both drivers experience the same it can be something pointing to Xorg :-? The last time I tried to install nouveau, it tried to remove all nvidia packages, and after that, it didn't work - black screen, no output, no X, no console. I'll try again, but I reported this to the kde bug tracking, and they're also trying to figure it out. So far, no luck. Use a Debian LiveCD, it will load Nouveau drivers and you can test if the same happens from here without needing to mess your current running system by switching between the two VGA drivers. I suggest, not to use latest xserver-xorg for Nvidia-cards, there is a bug in the latest version, but it appears only at special graphic chips (GF8600 for example), try to use version 1.10.XXX. Good luck! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20061133.40646.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: flashplugin-nonfree or mozilla-flashplugin?
Am Sonntag, 6. November 2011 schrieb Camaleón: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:14:46 +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: is there a difference between flashplugin-nonfree and mozilla-flashplugin? I only know about the former. Where have you seen the other? :-? (searching...) Ah, it's from D-M. Sorry my fault! Should have read more exactly, of course I meant flashplayer- mozilla, not mozilla-flashplugin And both seem to get the files directly from adobes site, too. Ask correct, so the answer is correct. Hmmz. Cheers Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20061142.23903.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
Hello, I must clarify a few things, I have no cd's no usb keys and im using the installer from google goodbye microsoft. I can't install from network because it can't detect my wireless card. I have the firmware on my win XP partition but have no idea how to get it to the installer. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Also is there a way to do a full install from xp parittion?
Re: Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 04:00:09 -0800, rose perry wrote: Is there any compelling reason why you are opening a new thread for asking the same twice? Hello, I must clarify a few things, I have no cd's no usb keys and im using the installer from google goodbye microsoft. I can't install from network because it can't detect my wireless card. I have the firmware on my win XP partition but have no idea how to get it to the installer. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Debian's Windows installer needs to fetch the content from network or suitable media (that you seem not having). If you go for the network path, you need to load the firmware (are you sure you need the firmware at all?) from a suitable place¹ (that you seem neither having) so unless you put the firmware under a spare FAT32 partition of your disk (which it can work or fail) I don't see how can you get the system installed. Anyway, the installer only allows a WEP based encryption schema (not WPA) so you will also have to check this. Also is there a way to do a full install from xp parittion? With your current situation (no CD nor USB nor ethernet card) I'd say this is something hard to get. ¹http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.12.25...@gmail.com
Re: Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
On 11/06/2011 02:00 PM, rose perry wrote: Hello, I must clarify a few things, I have no cd's no usb keys and im using the installer from google goodbye microsoft. I can't install from network because it can't detect my wireless card. I have the firmware on my win XP partition but have no idea how to get it to the installer. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Also is there a way to do a full install from xp parittion? maybe you can run a virtual machine in windows, and make your partitions there? Then you will have the option to install debian via mount / debootstrap / chroot to install wifi driver. 1. create a virtual machine and add a virtual drive AND the physical partition to it 2. install debian on the virtual drive 3. mount the real partition in e.g. /mnt/debian 4. install the OS using debootstrap (I have no doubt you can easily find comprehensive guides on installing this way, be aware of the requirements for doing this) 5. chroot to the installed system and cunstomize there, including the bootloader (apt-get install grub grub-update) 6. reboot and test it NOTE that this is a purely experimental and untested situation, and if you have no backup plan against a possible failure, I *strongly* recommend to look for another method. I guess a good documenting period before starting anything is more than required. I ALSO PRESUME you have full wifi access on the win system, and the necessary means of doing a proper virtual machine suitable for the whole setup, including a way to ensure internet access from the virtual system. THE RISK you are exposing this way is rendering you whole system unusable unless you have the option to boot from a rescue disk or similar. Please don't hit me if it hurts you. It's up to you to dig after further details. This is just a quick overview of the whole thing. Cheers, Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb67fac.6000...@debian-linux.ro
System randomly booted up in 640x480
So I'm running Debian Squeeze 64-bit, and this morning my computer randomly booted up into 640x480. I have no idea why, my computer was fine last night, it was running at 1440x900. I went to X Server options, and it wouldn't let me raise the res. I'm completely baffled. I wish I could elaborate more, I just can't Any idea's at all would be appreciated. -- The cake... ...is a pie
Re: System randomly booted up in 640x480
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:01:51 +, Russell Schoen wrote: So I'm running Debian Squeeze 64-bit, and this morning my computer randomly booted up into 640x480. I have no idea why, my computer was fine last night, it was running at 1440x900. I went to X Server options, and it wouldn't let me raise the res. I'm completely baffled. I wish I could elaborate more, I just can't Any idea's at all would be appreciated. I would compare both, current /var/log/Xorg.0.log and old /var/log/ Xorg.0.log.old and check for the differences. Have you updated/changed your VGA drivers recently? What's your VGA card and what driver are you loading? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.16.23...@gmail.com
Problem with signature verification in Sid
I get the following error message when running apt-get update on Sid. I have the latest keyring installed. Anyone else encountered this problem? Is there known solution? # apt-get update Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid InRelease Get:1 http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid InRelease [146 kB] Get:2 http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid Release.gpg [198 B] Err http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid InRelease Get:3 http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid Release [29,4 kB] Err http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid Release Fetched 29,6 kB in 0s (71,1 kB/s) Reading package lists... Done W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/InRelease W: Failed to fetch http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/sid/Release W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMpSvvzzQTknOOhV-oRjR=5qzwssbmmnehdr7vypa9ud-on...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems? - WOW!
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 06:12:15PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:39:07 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 04:44:06PM +, Camaleón wrote: (...) To ensure what flash plugin your browser sees, you can: 1/ Open Iceape browser and type about:plugins This is how I found where the different versions of flash were installed. It is fine to have several versions of the plugin. I also have Gnash (installed system-wide) and Adobe's Flash installed in my mozilla home folder, this way I can see how both work: Firefox uses Adobe flash while Epiphany loads Gnash :-) I went to /usr/lib, moved nspluginwrapper to x_nspluginwrapper and rebooted. First WOW! The sluggish behavior of the iceape browser was gone. It brought up the adobe.com/software/flash/about site immediately BUT still with no images. Checking about:plugins I found the gnash plugin moved to the top of the list. Next, I went to /usr/lib, moved gnash to x_gnash and rebooted Second WOW! Not only was the iceape browser now lightning fast but also when the adobe.com/software/flash/about site came up there were not only images but also a test result showing the version of flash I was using. In all the other visits to this web site I had never seen this and had searched in vain for clickable test command. All my problems are solved. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006160543.ga3...@tomgeorge.info
Understanding versioning.
Good time of the day. When I see this aptitude note: [UPGRADE] libavcodec52 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2squeeze2 - 5:0.7.7-0.0 how do I interpret number 5: in 5:0.6.1? Thanks for Your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb6c629.0e0ecc0a.29ec.1...@mx.google.com
Re: Understanding versioning.
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 00:38:32 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: When I see this aptitude note: [UPGRADE] libavcodec52 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2squeeze2 - 5:0.7.7-0.0 how do I interpret number 5: in 5:0.6.1? *** http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html 5.6.12 Version The version number of a package. The format is: [epoch:]upstream_version[- debian_revision] The three components here are: epoch This is a single (generally small) unsigned integer. It may be omitted, in which case zero is assumed. If it is omitted then the upstream_version may not contain any colons. It is provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older versions of a package, and also a package's previous version numbering schemes, to be left behind. *** HTH :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.17.46...@gmail.com
Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems? - WOW!
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:05:43 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 06:12:15PM +, Camaleón wrote: It is fine to have several versions of the plugin. I also have Gnash (installed system-wide) and Adobe's Flash installed in my mozilla home folder, this way I can see how both work: Firefox uses Adobe flash while Epiphany loads Gnash :-) I went to /usr/lib, moved nspluginwrapper to x_nspluginwrapper and rebooted. First WOW! The sluggish behavior of the iceape browser was gone. It brought up the adobe.com/software/flash/about site immediately BUT still with no images. Checking about:plugins I found the gnash plugin moved to the top of the list. Next, I went to /usr/lib, moved gnash to x_gnash and rebooted Second WOW! Not only was the iceape browser now lightning fast but also when the adobe.com/software/flash/about site came up there were not only images but also a test result showing the version of flash I was using. In all the other visits to this web site I had never seen this and had searched in vain for clickable test command. All my problems are solved. Good! :-) The wrapper file (nspluginwrapper), as I said, it should be not needed anymore because most of the plugins (java, adobe flash and/or PDF...) are nowadays being developed for each architecture separately (mostly i386 and amd64) so there is no need to make tricks to run them. It could be still useful for other architectures, though. Your other problem was having the Gnash plugin set as the default instead Adobe flash player. It is still unclear why Gnash refused to load the videos, but this can be an aside problem. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.06.17.54...@gmail.com
Re: Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
Non-free firmware for wireless can be found here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/squeeze/current/ Take the firmware.tar.gz or firmware.zip package, and put it on removable media such as a CD or usb-stick. Decompress it there, and you'll find several non-free Debian packages for firmware. Then, have this removable media in your destination computer when you install Debian on it. The installer will scan your computer for networking hardware, and then if non-free firmware is required, it will search your removable drives for the appropriate packages, and then it will set up your wireless hardware, and establish a connection to allow you to complete the install. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006125808.60aec...@torfree.net
Re: Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
On Sun 06 Nov 2011 at 04:00:09 -0800, rose perry wrote: Hello, I must clarify a few things, I have no cd's no usb keys and im using the installer from google goodbye microsoft. I can't install from network because it can't detect my wireless card. I have the firmware on my win XP partition but have no idea how to get it to the installer. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Borrowing or buying a USB stick would make installing Debian so much easier but, if you want an interesting and life-enhancing experience, here we go: 1. Get the goodbye-microsoft installer going. Do the detection and configuration of the network part of the menu. It won't work of course, but you will make notes of any messages. Pressing Alt-F4 will also give you much more information. 2. Partition and install the base system. After that there is little you can do because there is no net access. Install GRUB to the mbr and finish the installation. 3. You can now boot Debian - we hope! Still no net access but you have a working system which can do many things. One operation you want to carry out is to mount the device which has Windows on it. Like so: mount /dev/sdaX /mnt You want to do this because you are going to download quite a few .deb files in Windows, transfer them to the Debian installation using Debian and install them with dpkg. Have you bought that USB stick yet? 4. I'm assuming the base system has enough to allow mounting of a Windows file system. If not you'll need to get files for that first. You'll want firmware for your wireless card and wpasupplicant to connect to a network. Oh, you'll also want all the dependencies for whatever you install, but there is a way of finding out what they are. All very challenging, but doable and a great learning experience! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006182051.GA2852@desktop
Re: Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
I have no cd's no usb keys and im using the installer from google goodbye microsoft. I can't install from network because it can't detect my wireless card. I have the firmware on my win XP partition but have no idea how to get it to the installer. Sorry, when I responded, I overlooked that you don't have removable media. In that case, perhaps putting the non-free firmware packages unto your Win-XP partition would do the trick. So, as I mentioned, go to: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/squeeze/current/ From here, get the compressed non-free firmware packages, decompress it on your XP partition (which will result in several non-free firmware Debian packages there) and then run the installer. Hopefully the installer will search your XP partition, find the Debian packages there, install them, and set up wireless for the rest of the installation. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006133607.5e6e8...@torfree.net
KVM networking.
Good time of the day. I try to run KVM network w/o under normal user w/ the following result: /usr/bin/kvm -localtime -m 256 -no-reboot -cdrom ./debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso -boot d -hda ./da -net nic -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no kvm: -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no: could not configure /dev/net/tun (tap0): Operation not permitted kvm: -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no: Device 'tap' could not be initialized the user has write permission for /dev/kvm and has these permissions in sudoers file though it seems it is not used (as it asks not for sudo password): user ALL = /sbin/ifconfig *, /sbin/ifup br0, /sbin/ifdown br0, /sbin/ip *, /sbin/brctl *, /sbin/tunctl * So, what's wrong w/ my setup? Thanks for Your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb6dd81.1478cc0a.2f0e.6...@mx.google.com
Re: special device does not exist
On 11/06/2011 02:56 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Chen Wei wrote: T o n g wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Did you recently change the partition table on that device? That will sometimes cause the kernel to be out of sync with the device. Bingo! I remember it was a long time ago that I changed the partition. But apparently it is not long enough to beat my last reboot: I found UUID makes life easier. UUIDs have nothing to do with the Linux kernel being in sync with the device's partition table. The UUIDs come into action afterward. Bob Is there a Unix/Linux command to determine the uuids of your devices? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb6dfbc.1000...@optonline.net
Re: special device does not exist
Doug wrote: Is there a Unix/Linux command to determine the uuids of your devices? The standard command is: # blkid The blkid command needs root since by default it (annoyingly) caches information in /etc/blkid.tab. (Cache info should go into /var/cache.) You can use ls (as a normal user) to poke around in the /dev/disk/ filesystem to get the information directly. $ ls -log /dev/disk/by-* Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: flashplugin-nonfree or mozilla-flashplugin?
On Sunday 06 November 2011 1:42:23 am Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Sonntag, 6. November 2011 schrieb Camaleón: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:14:46 +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: is there a difference between flashplugin-nonfree and mozilla-flashplugin? I only know about the former. Where have you seen the other? :-? (searching...) Ah, it's from D-M. Sorry my fault! Should have read more exactly, of course I meant flashplayer- mozilla, not mozilla-flashplugin And both seem to get the files directly from adobes site, too. Ask correct, so the answer is correct. Hmmz. Cheers Hans I could be wrong :-), seems lkike the DM site upgrades versions quicker. -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20061056.57932.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: KVM networking.
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:18:08 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day. I try to run KVM network w/o under normal user w/ the following result: /usr/bin/kvm -localtime -m 256 -no-reboot -cdrom ./debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso -boot d -hda ./da -net nic -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no kvm: -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no: could not configure /dev/net/tun (tap0): Operation not permitted kvm: -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no: Device 'tap' could not be initialized the user has write permission for /dev/kvm and has these permissions in sudoers file though it seems it is not used (as it asks not for sudo password): user ALL = /sbin/ifconfig *, /sbin/ifup br0, /sbin/ifdown br0, /sbin/ip *, /sbin/brctl *, /sbin/tunctl * So, what's wrong w/ my setup? $ cd w bash: cd: w: No such file or directory cd /w bash: cd: /w: No such file or directory I am baffled by your mention of w/. Can you amplify please? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j96qsa$i9v$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: xboing has no sound on squeeze
On Friday 04 November 2011 2:23:38 pm Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:57:31 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 14:30:27 -0700, poenik...@operamail.com wrote: snip What's happened to xboing? It seems the package is considered to be removed from Debian because it has not been updated upstream since long time: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538731 As per the sound issue, there is another bug that can be related to that: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636811 I've tried running xboing on wheezy. Still no sound. So I've purged it from the disk. If you are interested in the package, you could ping xboing developer and ask for the status of the package. If there is a new version maybe it could be considered again to be kept in Debian repositories :-? Greetings, Geezyou guys really took me back. I used to play xboing years ago. I'm now running Mepis (a Debian Squeeze spinoff). I just installed xboing and xboing has full sound, just like the good old days. :-) version is 2.4-31 if that helps. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20061632.00562.m...@neidorff.com
Re: Understanding versioning.
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html epoch This is a single (generally small) unsigned integer. It may be omitted, in which case zero is assumed. If it is omitted then the upstream_version may not contain any colons. It is provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older versions of a package, and also a package's previous version numbering schemes, to be left behind. What does that non-sensical sounding explanation mean? Its not as if it is explained at the URL cited. I'm sure its perfectly reasonable if you know enough about debian generally, but if not it sounds kind of off the wall. Can you show an example of how it works? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87pqh4rjht@newsguy.com
Re: Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
Brian, 6.11.2011: On Sun 06 Nov 2011 at 04:00:09 -0800, rose perry wrote: Hello, I must clarify a few things, I have no cd's no usb keys and im using the installer from google goodbye microsoft. I can't install from network because it can't detect my wireless card. I have the firmware on my win XP partition but have no idea how to get it to the installer. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Borrowing or buying a USB stick would make installing Debian so much easier but, if you want an interesting and life-enhancing experience, here we go: 1. Get the goodbye-microsoft installer going. Do the detection and configuration of the network part of the menu. It won't work of course, but you will make notes of any messages. Pressing Alt-F4 will also give you much more information. 2. Partition and install the base system. After that there is little you can do because there is no net access. Install GRUB to the mbr and finish the installation. 3. You can now boot Debian - we hope! Still no net access but you have a working system which can do many things. One operation you want to carry out is to mount the device which has Windows on it. Like so: mount /dev/sdaX /mnt You want to do this because you are going to download quite a few .deb files in Windows, transfer them to the Debian installation using Debian and install them with dpkg. Have you bought that USB stick yet? Once xp is mounted onto debian, I guess one could just copy the required firmware files from the xp partition into /lib/firmware (or wherever they need to be) and then reboot/reload the network driver to get it going. (The network setting might have to be set up at this point but the defaults could be good enough.) This should avoid downloading lots of .deb files to xp and moving them over. 4. I'm assuming the base system has enough to allow mounting of a Windows file system. If not you'll need to get files for that first. You'll want firmware for your wireless card and wpasupplicant to connect to a network. Oh, you'll also want all the dependencies for whatever you install, but there is a way of finding out what they are. All very challenging, but doable and a great learning experience! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006221312.ga6...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Understanding versioning.
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011, Harry Putnam wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html epoch This is a single (generally small) unsigned integer. It may be omitted, in which case zero is assumed. If it is omitted then the upstream_version may not contain any colons. It is provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older versions of a package, and also a package's previous version numbering schemes, to be left behind. What does that non-sensical sounding explanation mean? Its not as if it is explained at the URL cited. It is a version override. For an epoch of n, *any* version without an epoch or with an epoch that is lower than n will be considered *older*. So 5:0.0.1 is NEWER than 10.2.3, or than 1:9.1.4. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2006222144.gc29...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: KVM networking.
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:18:08 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day. I try to run KVM network w/o under normal user w/ the following result: So, what's wrong w/ my setup? $ cd w bash: cd: w: No such file or directory cd /w bash: cd: /w: No such file or directory I am baffled by your mention of w/. Can you amplify please? In this case, w/ is an abbreviation of the word with. You can replace the statement with: I try to run KVM network without under normal user with the following result: and So, what's wrong with my setup? This, admittedly, doesn't make much sense, either, but without and with are the accepted expansions of w/o and w/. It is not a directory name. -- Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOEVnYuKPq0pPecjV+01UYS0bU0uuFZBsc+UP=Yfn=pbtph...@mail.gmail.com
Using a Fire-i camera
Install a Unibrain Fire-i BCL 1.2 camera. Add my id to /etc/group/...video . Do modprobe vloopback. peter@joule:~$ lsmod | grep v4l v4l1_compat10250 1 videodev peter@joule:~$ lsmod | grep vloop vloopback 9842 1 videodev 25605 2 vloopback peter@joule:~$ ls -l /dev/video* crw-rw+ 1 root video 81, 0 Nov 6 14:16 /dev/video0 crw-rw+ 1 root video 81, 1 Nov 6 14:16 /dev/video1 Start Coriander and click on the Services tab. Under the V4L tab the device is /dev/video0. A click on the V4L button gives two error windows. First Failed to open V4L device, /dev/video0. Then Error: Could not start the V4L service Please check that: -V4L kernel modules are loaded ... -you have read/write permission on the selected video device -the vloopback module is loaded. What else should be checked? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- New telephone 1 360 639 0202. Old telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ . Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057190.63990.43371@heaviside.invalid
Re: KVM networking.
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:46:46 -0600, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:18:08 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day. I try to run KVM network w/o under normal user w/ the following result: So, what's wrong w/ my setup? $ cd w bash: cd: w: No such file or directory cd /w bash: cd: /w: No such file or directory I am baffled by your mention of w/. Can you amplify please? In this case, w/ is an abbreviation of the word with. You can replace the statement with: I try to run KVM network without under normal user with the following result: and So, what's wrong with my setup? This, admittedly, doesn't make much sense, either, but without and with are the accepted expansions of w/o and w/. It is not a directory name. Ah, right. I misunderstood; I thought we wrote in words here rather than l33t spk 4 txt msgs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9760m$40j$1...@dough.gmane.org
Disk performance deteriated to unbearable levels
Hi everyone, I have an ASUS 1005PE and have been running sid on it for the last couple of years with regular updates. Fairly recently - maybe in the last few months - but it's hard to tell, the disk performance has dropped through the floor. Everything takes forever to load (including booting), but then runs ok once loaded. Even loading vim for the first times takes 3 seconds. And you might as well go catch a movie while libroffice loads... I've been running sid for many years on many machines and never had this sort of trouble before. I do not think it is the disk, since I still have windows 7 lying around on a spare partition and that seems to boot at its normal speed My only guess is that it is filesystem related, but I am not sure how to confirm this, nor why things would have got to the present situation. Currently, the root/system parition is 20GB, with 50% used. /home has only 44% used. Both are ext3 Any suggestions? Is it worth trying to convert to ext4? I do not want to reinstall if at all possible. cheers, David -- David Purton dcpur...@marshwiggle.net For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him. 2 Chronicles 16:9a signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Disk performance deteriated to unbearable levels
On 11/06/2011 03:13 PM, David Purton wrote: Fairly recently - maybe in the last few months - but it's hard to tell, the disk performance has dropped through the floor. First, make at least two complete back up sets and store one off-site. It could be a hardware problem. Your hard drive manufacturer should have a diagnostic utility available in the form of a bootable ISO image. I'd download, burn, and boot that. If the diagnostic finds a problem, proceed accordingly. Understand that other issues may make a good disk look bad (power supply, power cables, motherboard, controller card, data cable, etc.). If the utility finds no problems, then I'd wipe the disk using the utility, do a fresh install, and then restore/ reconnect data. As an aside, I use one disk for swap and the root file system, and a second large disk for data. Then whenever I do a fresh install, most restoring data is a simple matter of hooking up the data drive. HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb729ca.1090...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Understanding versioning.
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html
epoch
This is a single (generally small) unsigned integer. It may be omitted,
in which case zero is assumed. If it is omitted then the upstream_version
may not contain any colons.
It is provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older versions
of a package, and also a package's previous version numbering schemes, to
be left behind.
What does that non-sensical sounding explanation mean? Its not as if
it is explained at the URL cited.
I'm sure its perfectly reasonable if you know enough about debian
generally, but if not it sounds kind of off the wall.
Can you show an example of how it works?
Hi,
bash-completion has a clear example of use:
See /usr/share/doc/bash-completion/changelog.Debian.gz
After bash-completion (20080705) version the next version is 1.0, so
epoch had to be used
busybox has another example (developper simply upload an package with
incorrect version):
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=97290
You can have fun time investigating which packages you have installed
has epoch in their version and why they have it, running attached perl
script ( I was boring this night ...)
Regards
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
if ( not -e /usr/bin/dpkg-parsechangelog )
{
printf You need dpkg-parsechangelog (in dpkg-dev package);
exit 1;
}
my @packages_version=`aptitude search --disable-columns ?and(?version(:),?installed) -F%p`;
my %revised;
chomp @packages_version;
my $tmpfile = /tmp/changelog.tmp;
foreach my $package (sort @packages_version)
{
my $found=0;
if ( -e /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz )
{
my $md5sum=`md5sum /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz`;
chomp $md5sum; $md5sum=~s/\s+.*//;
if (defined ($revised{$md5sum}))
{
printf Skipping $package, shared changelog\n; next;
}
$revised{$md5sum}=1;
`zcat /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz $tmpfile`;
}
elsif ( -f /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.gz )
{
my $md5sum=`md5sum /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.gz`;
chomp $md5sum; $md5sum=~s/\s+.*//;
if (defined ($revised{$md5sum}))
{
printf Skipping $package, shared changelog\n; next;
}
$revised{$md5sum}=1;
`zcat /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.gz $tmpfile`
}
else
{
printf Didn't find $package changelog\n;
next;
}
printf Examining $package changelog \n;
open my $changelog,$tmpfile or die ;
my $new_version=;
my $version=;
while ($changelog)
{
if (/ \((\d[^)]*)\) .*urgency=/)
{
$new_version=$version;
$version=$1;
if ($new_version =~ /:/ and $version !~ /:/)
{
system (qq(dpkg-parsechangelog --from $version --to $new_version -l$tmpfile));
$found=1;
last;
}
}
}
if ($found == 0)
{
print Didn't find version with epoch in $package changelog, maybe source package is different ...\n;
}
}
unlink $tmpfile;
How to ifdown ... on squeeze?
On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used to (on my old Debian system). When ifconfig lists an interface eth0, neither ifdown eth0 nor ifdown eth takes the interface down. The attempts yield: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured and ifdown: interface eth not configured. How does one take an interface down on squeeze? (My old system's /etc/network/interfaces had: ... auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp On my squeeze system, it's: ... allow-hotplug eth0 (with a commented-out line: #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp ) ) Also: The reason I was trying to take it down and back up was to trigger a fresh DHCP query and corresponding host-name configuration. What's the preferred way of doing that? Thanks, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb7376b.9080...@kempt.net
Re: Understanding versioning.
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: [...] What does that non-sensical sounding explanation mean? Its not as if it is explained at the URL cited. It is a version override. For an epoch of n, *any* version without an epoch or with an epoch that is lower than n will be considered *older*. So 5:0.0.1 is NEWER than 10.2.3, or than 1:9.1.4. [...] Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com writes: [...] Hi, bash-completion has a clear example of use: See /usr/share/doc/bash-completion/changelog.Debian.gz After bash-completion (20080705) version the next version is 1.0, so epoch had to be used busybox has another example (developper simply upload an package with incorrect version): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=97290 You can have fun time investigating which packages you have installed has epoch in their version and why they have it, running attached perl script ( I was boring this night ...) (I'll be stealing off that for a while... hehe). Ok, that all clears things up very nicely. Thank you both for taking time to clue me in. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87lirsr91p@newsguy.com
Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Dan B. d...@kempt.net wrote: On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used to (on my old Debian system). When ifconfig lists an interface eth0, neither ifdown eth0 nor ifdown eth takes the interface down. The attempts yield: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured and ifdown: interface eth not configured. How does one take an interface down on squeeze? (My old system's /etc/network/interfaces had: ... auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp On my squeeze system, it's: ... allow-hotplug eth0 (with a commented-out line: #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp ) ) Also: The reason I was trying to take it down and back up was to trigger a fresh DHCP query and corresponding host-name configuration. When NM controls your connections, NICs aren't defined in /etc/network/interfaces, by default; you can change that behavior by changing the managed variable of the ifupdown section of /etc/NetworkManager/networkmanager.conf. You can also use nmcli to take down and bring up your NIC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=syh1vwqdefq1dxchs-i82gqbz5ckh-p+x6r+s_41v8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?
Tom H wrote: Dan B. wrote: On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used to (on my old Debian system). This is because by default with a GNOME desktop installed Debian has switched away from ifupdown and over to NetworkManager because GNOME by default specifies NetworkManager. If you don't install GNOME then you won't get NetworkManager and the behavior will be traditional Debian ifupdown. There is a lot of discussion about this in the mailing list archives. It has been controversial. When ifconfig lists an interface eth0, neither ifdown eth0 nor ifdown eth takes the interface down. The attempts yield: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured and ifdown: interface eth not configured. How does one take an interface down on squeeze? The expected tool on a GNOME system would be by using the NetworkManager GUI with the mouse or as Tom writes, 'nmcli' from the command line. Something like this: # nmcli conn down id 'Auto eth0' # nmcli conn up id 'Auto eth0' (with a commented-out line: #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp For the background of that comment see the bug report here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024#49 Also: The reason I was trying to take it down and back up was to trigger a fresh DHCP query and corresponding host-name configuration. When NM controls your connections, NICs aren't defined in /etc/network/interfaces, by default; you can change that behavior by changing the managed variable of the ifupdown section of /etc/NetworkManager/networkmanager.conf. You can also use nmcli to take down and bring up your NIC. My recommendation is to edit that commented out line and remove it from NetworkManager's control and return it to ifupdown's control. See the mailing list archives for lots of discussion of this issue. See this next reference for the details of that particular line. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basic_syntax_of_etc_network_interfaces Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: fonts, denk ik. Maar wellicht zit het elders
Gijs Hillenius wrote: knip Echter: ik merk nu dat ik geen Japanse, Chinese of andere unicode tekens meer zie. Volgens mij was dat eerder geen probleem. Ik verwacht bijvoorbeeld deze website te kunnen lezen http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%9C%9F maar ik zie hier in plaats van een Japans/Chinees teken gewoon een leeg vierkantje. In Emacs (sorry hoor) zie ik, als ik tiep C-x 8 (enter) 771F (enter): 真 in plaats van het karakter... knip Ik heb *geen* idee waar ik moet beginnen met zoeken? Ik zie in /var/log/aptitude zo op het oog niet wat er op font-gebied (of locales) is vernieuwd. In verwijzing naar de interesse van voormelde Website welke bezocht is zoek eens op de volgende keywords: 'scim OR ibus AND debian'. scim en ibus zijn tools voor het ingeven van Chinese karakters waarbij fonts, locales etc. van wezenlijk belang zijn en misschien is daar de oplossing/oorzaak van het probleem te vinden/herleiden waarbij de link: http://isis.poly.edu/~qiming/chinese-debian-mini-howto.html een goeie start is. Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: fonts, denk ik. Maar wellicht zit het elders
Op 04-11-11 16:45, Gijs Hillenius schreef: Eerder deze week rebootte ik deze laptop. Ding draait Debian unstable, en de batterij was per ongelijk 's nachts leeggelopen. Na het opstarten zagen alle fonts in emacs, kuch, er wat vetter uit. Ik besteedde er geen aandacht aan. Echter: ik merk nu dat ik geen Japanse, Chinese of andere unicode tekens meer zie. Volgens mij was dat eerder geen probleem. Ik verwacht bijvoorbeeld deze website te kunnen lezen http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%9C%9F maar ik zie hier in plaats van een Japans/Chinees teken gewoon een leeg vierkantje. In Emacs (sorry hoor) zie ik, als ik tiep C-x 8 (enter) 771F (enter): 真 in plaats van het karakter... Apt-get update apt-get upgrade gedraaid, en daarna de laptop weer even uit- en aangezet, en nu zien de letters hier er weer mager uit, als eerst. Hm? Ik vermoed dat een en ander met elkaar te maken heeft. Maar het kan toeval zijn. Ik heb *geen* idee waar ik moet beginnen met zoeken? Ik zie in /var/log/aptitude zo op het oog niet wat er op font-gebied (of locales) is vernieuwd. Ik had heb dit laatst onder stable aan de praat gebracht met: chinees (en Japans): apt-get install ttf-arphic-bkai00mp ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp ttf-arphic-gkai00mp ttf-arphic-ukai ttf-arphic-uming koreaans: apt-get install ttf-unfonts-core Of dit echter de beste manier is durf ik niet te zeggen. Sjoerd Hiemstra schreef dat hij deze fonts niet geïnstalleerd had, maar dat hij toch uitstekend Chinees, Japans en Koreaans kon weergeven. Groet, Paul. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
