Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Bonjour,

Comment scripter des mises à jour aptitude ou apt-get en mode automatique ?

Ça parait idiot mais j'ai pas trouvé :-/

Sur un serveur, je suis passé d'apticron à cron-apt pour que l'install de mise 
à jour de
sécurité devienne automatique (en me disant que je préférais le risque de 
planter un serveur à
celui de me le faire pirater).

Sur la récente màj d'apache2, il est resté bloqué sur 

Configuration file `/etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl'
...
The default action is to keep your current version.
*** default-ssl (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

= apache n'a jamais redémarré, pas très grave car j'étais dans les parages, et 
que ma seule
utilisation d'apache est pour un site secondaire, mais ennuyeux quand même.

J'ai essayé

aptitude -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true safe-upgrade
apt-get -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade
apt-get -q -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade
apt-get -q -y --force-yes -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade

mais rien à faire, il me pose toujours la question !

Y'a moyen de le faire taire ?

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Sandro CAZZANIGA
Regarde du coté de aptsh, mais je ne sais pas si c'est bien ça que tu
recherche :)

Le 18 avril 2012 11:09, Daniel Caillibaud m...@lairdutemps.org a écrit :

 Bonjour,

 Comment scripter des mises à jour aptitude ou apt-get en mode automatique ?

 Ça parait idiot mais j'ai pas trouvé :-/

 Sur un serveur, je suis passé d'apticron à cron-apt pour que l'install de
 mise à jour de
 sécurité devienne automatique (en me disant que je préférais le risque de
 planter un serveur à
 celui de me le faire pirater).

 Sur la récente màj d'apache2, il est resté bloqué sur

 Configuration file `/etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl'
 ...
 The default action is to keep your current version.
 *** default-ssl (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

 = apache n'a jamais redémarré, pas très grave car j'étais dans les
 parages, et que ma seule
 utilisation d'apache est pour un site secondaire, mais ennuyeux quand même.

 J'ai essayé

 aptitude -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true safe-upgrade
 apt-get -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade
 apt-get -q -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade
 apt-get -q -y --force-yes -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade

 mais rien à faire, il me pose toujours la question !

 Y'a moyen de le faire taire ?

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 18/04/12 à 11:15, Sandro CAZZANIGA cazzaniga.san...@gmail.com a écrit :
SC Regarde du coté de aptsh, mais je ne sais pas si c'est bien ça que tu
SC recherche :)

Non, je cherche à faire taire apt, pas lui ajouter un shell interactif ;-)

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Sandro CAZZANIGA
Et si tu fais:

apt commande  /path/to/log ?

Le 18 avril 2012 12:44, Daniel Caillibaud m...@lairdutemps.org a écrit :

 Le 18/04/12 à 11:15, Sandro CAZZANIGA cazzaniga.san...@gmail.com a
 écrit :
 SC Regarde du coté de aptsh, mais je ne sais pas si c'est bien ça que tu
 SC recherche :)

 Non, je cherche à faire taire apt, pas lui ajouter un shell interactif ;-)

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 18/04/12 à 13:27, Sandro CAZZANIGA cazzaniga.san...@gmail.com a écrit :
SC Et si tu fais:
SC 
SC apt commande  /path/to/log ?

Ça redirige la sortie, mais il va toujours attendre une entrée.

Par faire taire je voulais dire ne pas poser de question.

PS: le html est inutile sur cette liste, et pas besoin de me répondre 
directement, je suis
inscrit à la liste ;-)

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Sandro
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 01:47:59PM +0200, Daniel Caillibaud wrote:
 Le 18/04/12 à 13:27, Sandro CAZZANIGA cazzaniga.san...@gmail.com a écrit :
 SC Et si tu fais:
 SC 
 SC apt commande  /path/to/log ?
 
 Ça redirige la sortie, mais il va toujours attendre une entrée.
 
 Par faire taire je voulais dire ne pas poser de question.
 
 PS: le html est inutile sur cette liste, et pas besoin de me répondre 
 directement, je suis
 inscrit à la liste ;-)
 
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 qu'on découvrira le secret de son chant.
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Si tu le scripte et que tu le passe en tâche cron, non?

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread gardouille

Le 18/04/2012 11:09, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :

Bonjour,

Comment scripter des mises à jour aptitude ou apt-get en mode automatique ?

Ça parait idiot mais j'ai pas trouvé :-/

Sur un serveur, je suis passé d'apticron à cron-apt pour que l'install de mise 
à jour de
sécurité devienne automatique (en me disant que je préférais le risque de 
planter un serveur à
celui de me le faire pirater).

Sur la récente màj d'apache2, il est resté bloqué sur

Configuration file `/etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl'
...
The default action is to keep your current version.
*** default-ssl (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

=  apache n'a jamais redémarré, pas très grave car j'étais dans les parages, 
et que ma seule
utilisation d'apache est pour un site secondaire, mais ennuyeux quand même.

J'ai essayé

aptitude -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true safe-upgrade
apt-get -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade
apt-get -q -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade
apt-get -q -y --force-yes -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true upgrade

mais rien à faire, il me pose toujours la question !

Y'a moyen de le faire taire ?



C'est dpkg qui te pose soucis dans le cas présent. Voir l'option 
--force-confold du manuel de dpkg.


Bien heureusement, tu peux coller ça dans un fichier de config:
cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00configperso
// Agrandir la taille du cache d'Apt
APT::Cache-Limit 4000;
// Version de Debian par défaut Unstable
APT::Default-Release unstable;
// Forcer à conserver les anciens fichiers de configuration lors de maj
DPkg::Options { --force-confdef; --force-confold; }

Voila pour ton début de piste.

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread David Prévot
Salut,

Le 18/04/2012 07:56, gardouille a écrit :
 Le 18/04/2012 11:09, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :

 Sur la récente màj d'apache2, il est resté bloqué sur

 Configuration file `/etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl'
 ...
 The default action is to keep your current version.
 *** default-ssl (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

 C'est dpkg qui te pose soucis dans le cas présent. Voir l'option
 --force-confold du manuel de dpkg.

Ça va forcer l'utilisation de l'ancienne configuration, sans appliquer
le correctif de sécurité.

Dans ce cas précis, le correctif [0] est justement une modification des
fichiers de configuration. Puisque ces fichiers ont été modifiés
localement (si ça n'avait pas été le cas, la nouvelle version aurait
remplacé l'ancienne), ça n'est pas possible de fusionner le correctif à
ta configuration.

0 : http://www.debian.org/security/2012/dsa-2452

 Bien heureusement, tu peux coller ça dans un fichier de config:
 cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00configperso
 // Agrandir la taille du cache d'Apt
 APT::Cache-Limit 4000;
 // Version de Debian par défaut Unstable
 APT::Default-Release unstable;
 // Forcer à conserver les anciens fichiers de configuration lors de maj
 DPkg::Options { --force-confdef; --force-confold; }

Il y a aussi --force-confnew, mais si tu as déjà renforcé la sécurité
des fichiers de configuration par défaut, ce ne serait pas une bonne
idée de remplacer ces fichiers aveuglément.

Amicalement

David




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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 18/04/12 à 13:56, gardouille gardoui...@gmail.com a écrit :
G C'est dpkg qui te pose soucis dans le cas présent. Voir l'option 
G --force-confold du manuel de dpkg.
...
G Voila pour ton début de piste.

Ben c'est la solution que je cherchais !

aptitude safe-upgrade -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true -o 
Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold

fait maintenant ce que je veux

(avec également dans mon /etc/cron-apt/config la ligne
OPTIONS=-o quiet=1 -o 
Dir::Etc::SourceList=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/security.list -o 
Dir::Etc::SourceParts=/dev/null
pour ne faire ces mises à jour automatiques que pour les cas urgents)

Merci

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 18/04/12 à 13:53, Sandro cazzaniga.san...@gmail.com a écrit :
S Si tu le scripte et que tu le passe en tâche cron, non?

Relis le début, c'est justement mon pb, un script en cron qui pose des 
questions ;-)

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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread gardouille

Le 18/04/2012 15:09, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :

Ben c'est la solution que je cherchais !

aptitude safe-upgrade -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true -o 
Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold

fait maintenant ce que je veux

(avec également dans mon /etc/cron-apt/config la ligne
OPTIONS=-o quiet=1 -o Dir::Etc::SourceList=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/security.list -o 
Dir::Etc::SourceParts=/dev/null
pour ne faire ces mises à jour automatiques que pour les cas urgents)

Merci



Pour appuyer ce qu'a dit David Prévot, si tu conserve ton ancien fichier 
de configuration, le nouveau sera normalement conservé au même 
emplacement avec l'extension dpkg-dist.


De cette façon, une fois que t'as reçu ton mail d'apt-cron, tu peux 
quand même vérifier et appliquer à la mano les corrections que tu souhaites.


Bon maj ;)


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Re: Faire taire aptitude

2012-04-18 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 18/04/12 à 08:47, David Prévot taf...@debian.org a écrit :
DP Dans ce cas précis, le correctif [0] est justement une modification des
DP fichiers de configuration. Puisque ces fichiers ont été modifiés
DP localement (si ça n'avait pas été le cas, la nouvelle version aurait
DP remplacé l'ancienne), ça n'est pas possible de fusionner le correctif à
DP ta configuration.
DP 
DP 0 : http://www.debian.org/security/2012/dsa-2452

Effectivement, merci de le pointer.

DP Il y a aussi --force-confnew, mais si tu as déjà renforcé la sécurité
DP des fichiers de configuration par défaut, ce ne serait pas une bonne
DP idée de remplacer ces fichiers aveuglément.

C'est le cas (j'avais supprimé l'alias concerné), et de toute façon avec un 
fichier de
conf d'un vhost y'a pas mal de chose qui marcheraient plus (certifs ssl, 
chemins  co).

Dans ce cas précis, j'aurais dû laisser le default-ssl inactif et me configurer 
un autre vhost
ssl.

Ça vaut pour d'autres cas, toujours préférer l'ajout de fichiers à la conf par 
défaut pour la
modifier sans changer ces fichiers fournis, mais c'est pas toujours possible 
(pour apache2
justement, la politique par défaut est beaucoup plus ouverte que mes besoins, 
je préfère ne
pas laisser traîner d'autorisations inutiles à mes applis).

Et merci à gardouille pour la remarque sur les fichiers *.dpkg-dist qui 
permettent le merge
manuel ultérieur.

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[testing] nautilus recherche

2012-04-18 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Salut,

C'est moi qui ne sait pas faire ou bien la recherche dans nautilus ne
fonctionne pas ?

Gaëtan

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ZNC + ERC problème mot de passe

2012-04-18 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Bonjour,

J'essaie de me connecter avec ERC sur le bouncer ZNC. J'ai installé le
paquet znc de squeeze.

Celui-ci semble bien se connecter, en revanche, je ne parviens pas à
me connecter sur le bouncer avec ERC. Il tourne en boucle en affichant
password incorrect.

En regardant la conf, j'ai constaté que le mot de passe ut'ilisateur
était chiffré. je l'ai mis en clair pour essayer, znc a corrigé en
mettant Pass = plain#mon_password.

Mais même conclusion, impossible de se connecter.

Pour précision, je me conecte depuis un autre ordinateur sur le réseau
local au znc.

Sur le net, plusieures sites conseillent de compiler une dernière
version car le paquet squeeze serait trop ancien. Est-ce que cela
jouerait ?

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conf dhclient

2012-04-18 Thread prego jérémy

salut,

petite question sur le fichier dhclient.conf

 j'ai un paragraphe comme suit

interface eth0 {
send vendor-class-identifier blablabla;
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, host-name,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu,
rfc3442-classless-static-routes;
}
dans ce paragraphe j'envoie en vendor puis je ne demande pas les dns car 
j'en ai pas besoin.


mon problème  lorsque je fais dhclient eth2 il redemande un bail dhcp 
aussi a eth0 !!


comment empêcher ça ?

merci si vous avez compris mon soucis

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Roundcube con vacation

2012-04-18 Thread Gorka

Buenas.

Tengo postfix instalado sobre Etch según el ISP Mail Tutorial de Workaround
para dominios virtuales.

He instalado roundcube para webmail, pero quería ponerle vacation y me
pierdo muchísimo entre toda la información. He leído el README, INSTALL, 
Postfix Virtual Domain Howto Autoreplies, Extra Virtual Vacation, … y un
montón de cosas más y la verdad es que no me atrevo a tocar nada porque lo
veo demasiado confuso.

Mi idea es utilizar el SQL Virtual Driver, pero no tengo claro los pasos que
hay que dar para hacer el vacation funcionar.
¿Podríais indicarme los pasos para hacerlo poco a poco (o un tutorial
sencillo en castellano)?

Lo que he hecho hasta ahora es:
 # apt-get install vacation
Y he descomprimido el vacation-1.9.9.zip en
/opt/roundcubemail-0.7.2/plugins/
Luego he puesto en /opt/roundcubemail-0.7.2/config/main.inc.php
$rcmail_config['plugins'] = array('vacation');

A ver si podéis ayudarme.
Gracias.




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Re: Roundcube con vacation

2012-04-18 Thread Maykel Franco Hernández
 

El 2012-04-18 10:07, Gorka escribió: 

 Buenas.
 
 Tengo postfix
instalado sobre Etch según el ISP Mail Tutorial de Workaround
 para
dominios virtuales.
 
 He instalado roundcube para webmail, pero
quería ponerle vacation y me
 pierdo muchísimo entre toda la
información. He leído el README, INSTALL, 
 Postfix Virtual Domain
Howto Autoreplies, Extra Virtual Vacation, … y un
 montón de cosas más
y la verdad es que no me atrevo a tocar nada porque lo
 veo demasiado
confuso.
 
 Mi idea es utilizar el SQL Virtual Driver, pero no tengo
claro los pasos que
 hay que dar para hacer el vacation funcionar.

¿Podríais indicarme los pasos para hacerlo poco a poco (o un tutorial

sencillo en castellano)?
 
 Lo que he hecho hasta ahora es:
 #
apt-get install vacation
 Y he descomprimido el vacation-1.9.9.zip en

/opt/roundcubemail-0.7.2/plugins/
 Luego he puesto en
/opt/roundcubemail-0.7.2/config/main.inc.php
 $rcmail_config['plugins']
= array('vacation');
 
 A ver si podéis ayudarme.
 Gracias.
 
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RE: Roundcube con vacation

2012-04-18 Thread Gorka
Tengo postfix instalado sobre Etch según el ISP Mail Tutorial de Workaround
para dominios virtuales.

He instalado roundcube para webmail, pero quería ponerle vacation y me
pierdo muchísimo entre toda la información. He leído el README, INSTALL, 
Postfix Virtual Domain Howto Autoreplies, Extra Virtual Vacation, … y un
montón de cosas más y la verdad es que no me atrevo a tocar nada porque lo
veo demasiado confuso.

Mi idea es utilizar el SQL Virtual Driver, pero no tengo claro los pasos que
hay que dar para hacer el vacation funcionar.
¿Podríais indicarme los pasos para hacerlo poco a poco (o un tutorial
sencillo en castellano)?

Lo que he hecho hasta ahora es:
 # apt-get install vacation
Y he descomprimido el vacation-1.9.9.zip en
/opt/roundcubemail-0.7.2/plugins/
Luego he puesto en /opt/roundcubemail-0.7.2/config/main.inc.php
$rcmail_config['plugins'] = array('vacation');

A ver si podéis ayudarme.
Gracias.




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Hola, qué tutorial has seguido??


Empecé con este ...
http://www.notestic.com/missatge-de-vacances-amb-roundcube/
Hasta aquí muy bien, pero es que no te explica cómo hacer funcionar uno de los 
múltiples drivers. Y al ver que no funcionaba por sí solo (no tengo FTP al 
servidor) he tratado de buscar cómo configurarlo con el driver virtual SQL (que 
creo que es la opción más profesional) siguiendo este y otros tutoriales como 
este ... 
http://www.ipsure.com/blog/2011/roundcube-setup-by-also-fixing-vacation-and-quota-warning-issues-on-freebsd/
Pero en los primeros pasos ya veo que no tengo esas rutas de carpetas porque es 
para FreeBSD.
 



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Debian y XFCE

2012-04-18 Thread Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez
Estimados
Junto con saludarle vuelvo a la carga. (Cuando tengo tiempo) es lo que
mas me falta.

Bueno dejando de llorar un poco, les comento haber si alguien me da
luces sobre el inconveniente que tengo.

Resulta que por mas que trato de Montar pendrives en XFCE no puedo
hacerlo., he buscado varias cosas por internet, como agregar un
.xinitrc

con el siguiente contenido.

#!/bin/sh
exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch openbox-session

, usar HAL o D-bus pero parece que eso solo funciona en archlinux y
gentoo :S, por que en Debian no quiere nada.

el otro inconveniente es como logro activar los botones de apagar y reiniciar???
Obviamente se puede con un halt -p o un shutdown -a
pero eso me deja la tarea de dejar la clave de root entonces no es muy
seguro...(la lapto la ocupo con mas personas.)

PD: alguien ha instalado el py-jupiter eb debian?


desde ya agradecido con cualquier ayuda.

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RE: Roundcube con vacation

2012-04-18 Thread Francesc Guitart
El mié, 18-04-2012 a las 17:06 +0200, Gorka escribió:

 
 Empecé con este ...
 http://www.notestic.com/missatge-de-vacances-amb-roundcube/
 Hasta aquí muy bien, pero es que no te explica cómo hacer funcionar uno de 
 los múltiples drivers. Y al ver que no funcionaba por sí solo (no tengo FTP 
 al servidor) he tratado de buscar cómo configurarlo con el driver virtual SQL 
 (que creo que es la opción más profesional) siguiendo este y otros tutoriales 
 como este ... 
 http://www.ipsure.com/blog/2011/roundcube-setup-by-also-fixing-vacation-and-quota-warning-issues-on-freebsd/
 Pero en los primeros pasos ya veo que no tengo esas rutas de carpetas porque 
 es para FreeBSD.


¿Que rutas son las que no existen en Debian? Aunque las rutas no sean
las mismas en FreeBSD que en Debian los ficheros que se editan/modifican
deben existir igual. Usa find o locate para dar con ellos.


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Re: [OT] Planeta Ddebian

2012-04-18 Thread Carlos Zuniga
2012/4/17 Fabián Bonetti mama21mama2...@yahoo.com.ar:
 Bueno quiero unirme al planeta pero esta todo en ingles.

 Por lo tanta me pasa que no se como hacer para unirme.

 Aqui http://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian dice que debo tener una cuenta de

 http://alioth.debian.org me registre y algo me falta.

En el wiki continua con los pasos. Debes hacer un checkout al svn de
planet debian editar el archivo config.ini añadiendo tu feed (si
escribes en español, en config.ini.es) y commitearlo.



 como que no esta del todo claro la wiki.


 Alguien con ganas de colaborar, o orientar si esta en el planeta cual serian 
 los pasos?

 Saludos

Por cierto el planet en español esta en http://planet.debian.org/es/

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Re: [OT] Planeta Ddebian

2012-04-18 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:49:44 -0500
Carlos Zuniga carlos@gmail.com wrote:

me sale esto:.

mama@zeuza:~/config$ svn checkout 
svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/planet-debian/trunk/config
svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' 
in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file.
svn: La conexión de red se cerró inesperadamente



tal vez hay que configurar algo?





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Re: Debian y XFCE

2012-04-18 Thread Emiliano M. Rudenick
El Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:56:34 -0400
Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez djmkcheve...@gmail.com escribió:
 Estimados
 Junto con saludarle vuelvo a la carga. (Cuando tengo tiempo) es lo que
 mas me falta.
 
 Bueno dejando de llorar un poco, les comento haber si alguien me da
 luces sobre el inconveniente que tengo.
 
 Resulta que por mas que trato de Montar pendrives en XFCE no puedo
 hacerlo., he buscado varias cosas por internet, como agregar un
 .xinitrc
 
 con el siguiente contenido.
 
 #!/bin/sh
 exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch openbox-session
 
 , usar HAL o D-bus pero parece que eso solo funciona en archlinux y
 gentoo :S, por que en Debian no quiere nada.
 
 el otro inconveniente es como logro activar los botones de apagar y
 reiniciar??? Obviamente se puede con un halt -p o un shutdown -a
 pero eso me deja la tarea de dejar la clave de root entonces no es muy
 seguro...(la lapto la ocupo con mas personas.)
 
 PD: alguien ha instalado el py-jupiter eb debian?
 
 
 desde ya agradecido con cualquier ayuda.
 

¿Qué Debian? ¿qué XFCE?
Te pregunto porque en mi caso particular no he tenido dichos problemas.
Los usb se montan automáticamente, funcionan los botones de apagar y
todo como corresponde.
En mi caso, instalé XFCE 4 en Debian Squeeze (instalación básica, sin
entorno de escritorio) de la siguiente manera:

apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies

Y me gusta Slim como desktop manager:

apt-get install slim

Con eso todo OK.

Saludos!


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Off Topic - Oportunidade Analista de Suporte Junior e Pleno

2012-04-18 Thread Eduardo Mendes those
Pessoal, estamos (TQI - www.tqi.com.br) com 25 vagas para o RIO e 25 vagas
para SP.
Se alguem animar... encaminhe o curriculo para o* meu* *email *e *não para
a lista*.

Segue detalhes da vaga:

Analista de Suporte Junior (mínimo 2 anos de experiência) e Pleno

Linux or Unix: o candidato deve ser capaz de executar operações de login,
operações com arquivos (listar, mover, remover, renomear) usar o edito vi,
verificar processos em execução, verificar espaço em disco de partições do
disco, compactar arquivos, configurar endereços de IP de servidores, etc.
TCP/IP: ser capaz de entender conceitos de sub-rede, máscara de rede,
roteamento, definição de hosts. Conhecer principalmente os seguintes
protocolos: TELNET, SSH, FTP, HTTP.
SQL: Conhecer e saber usar, principalmente, a sintaxe dos comandos SELECT,
INSERT, UPDATE e DELETE.
Protocolo SS7. Fluência em  inglês para leitura, escrita e conversação.


Abraços


Re: SELinux help

2012-04-18 Thread Brad Alexander
I don't know of such a list, but what I recommend is to run it in
permissive mode for some period of time (days? A week?) and see what
is captured in the logs, then use that to adjust your rules.

Your logs should also tell you at this point at least some of what is
subtly broken.

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 Is there a forum for Debian SELinux help. I am trying to set up
 a server, but with SELinux enabled some functions are subtlety
 broken and it looks like some rules need tweaking.

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Can't upgrade anyting in Sid

2012-04-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
For the last few days apt-get upgrades in Sid always fail with this
message:

E: Internal error: APT::pkgPackageManager::MaxLoopCount reached in
SmartConfigure for libc-bin:i386, aborting

According to bug report 669060 this is supposed to be fiexd by the
latest version of apt (0.9.1). I downloaded this and installed it with
dpkg but the error still comes up. I also tried downloading and
installing the latest version of libc-bin, mentioned in the error line,
but that had depnendency problems. Any ideas what to try next?

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Re: Can't upgrade anyting in Sid

2012-04-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:50:26 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 For the last few days apt-get upgrades in Sid always fail with this
 message:
 
 E: Internal error: APT::pkgPackageManager::MaxLoopCount reached in
 SmartConfigure for libc-bin:i386, aborting
 
 According to bug report 669060 this is supposed to be fiexd by the
 latest version of apt (0.9.1). I downloaded this and installed it with
 dpkg but the error still comes up. I also tried downloading and
 installing the latest version of libc-bin, mentioned in the error line,
 but that had depnendency problems. Any ideas what to try next?

Did you upgrade libapt-pkg4.12 to version 0.9.1 as well? That seems to
have fixed this problem for me.

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wLAN interface recognised, wicd won't co-operate (plz CC!)

2012-04-18 Thread Jason Filippou
Hello list,

I'm having trouble making wicd work on a debian squeeze 6.04 machine.
First of all, the hardware specifics:

jason@debian-laptop:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
6.0.4
jason@debian-laptop:~$ uname -r
2.6.32-5-686

Second, lspci recognises both wired and wireless interfaces:

jason@debian-laptop:~$ lspci | grep -i network
02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
05:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network
Connection (rev 02)

iwconfig recognises the SSID NETGEAR of the network I'm trying to
connect to without any luck for the past hour:

jason@debian-laptop:~$ sudo iwconfig
lono wireless extensions.

eth0  no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:NETGEAR
  Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=0 dBm
  Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Power Management:off

pan0  no wireless extensions.

I have included wlan0 under wicd preferences and installed
firmware-ralink as suggested here:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=58381 and here:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/20313/wicd-cannot-detect-wireless-networks-on-debian-6-testing-xfce-fresh-install.

*HOWEVER*, it seems that the wlan0 interface still won't scan for
available wireless networks:

jason@debian-laptop:~$ sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down

Please keep in mind that there is no issue about hardware malfunctions
or the network being unavailable, because my Windows partition logs
into the network without any problems.

Kindly CC me as I'm not subscribed on the list,

Jason

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RAID5 failure; possible to repair?

2012-04-18 Thread Ramon Hofer
Hi all

I have a home server with a raid5.
After switching to a new case my graphics card died and I replaced it 
with an old but very powerful card just to try things.

Unfortunately the PSU wasn't strong enough and there were some crashes.

I could fix the problems of the other disks but I had no luck with the 
raid.

What I did is:

First I checked with `mdadm --detail /dev/md0` and everything seemed fine 
(raid clean).
But it wasn't possible to mount md0 so I ran `fsck /dev/md0` which was 
busy for quite a while. It removed one disk after the other from the 
raid. Afterwards I ended with an empty raid with four spare disks and now 
I don't even have a md0 device.

Is there anything I can do to recover the files from there or should I 
start from scratch?


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: wLAN interface recognised, wicd won't co-operate (plz CC!)

2012-04-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 Apr 2012 at 12:40:42 +0300, Jason Filippou wrote:

[Tale about a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG snipped.]

 I have included wlan0 under wicd preferences and installed
 firmware-ralink as suggested here:

At

   http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy

it suggests you want the firmware-iwlwifi package.

 Kindly CC me as I'm not subscribed on the list,

Done.


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[SOLVED]: Re: wLAN interface recognised, wicd won't co-operate (plz CC!)

2012-04-18 Thread Jason Filippou
And done. Marking this solved.

Thanks a million Brian.

Jason

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 On Wed 18 Apr 2012 at 12:40:42 +0300, Jason Filippou wrote:

 [Tale about a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG snipped.]

 I have included wlan0 under wicd preferences and installed
 firmware-ralink as suggested here:

 At

   http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy

 it suggests you want the firmware-iwlwifi package.

 Kindly CC me as I'm not subscribed on the list,

 Done.



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Re: wLAN interface recognised, wicd won't co-operate (plz CC!)

2012-04-18 Thread keith

Brian wrote:

On Wed 18 Apr 2012 at 12:40:42 +0300, Jason Filippou wrote:

[Tale about a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG snipped.]


I have included wlan0 under wicd preferences and installed
firmware-ralink as suggested here:

At

http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy

it suggests you want the firmware-iwlwifi package.


Kindly CC me as I'm not subscribed on the list,

Done.


...and then  Network  Find a hidden network  enter ESSID  connect ; 
will ask for your password, enter it, then hit 'connect' again; should 
now work.


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Re: Can't upgrade anyting in Sid - SOLVED

2012-04-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 18 Apr 2012, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:50:26 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  For the last few days apt-get upgrades in Sid always fail with this
  message:
  
  E: Internal error: APT::pkgPackageManager::MaxLoopCount reached in
  SmartConfigure for libc-bin:i386, aborting
  
  According to bug report 669060 this is supposed to be fiexd by the
  latest version of apt (0.9.1). I downloaded this and installed it with
  dpkg but the error still comes up. I also tried downloading and
  installing the latest version of libc-bin, mentioned in the error line,
  but that had depnendency problems. Any ideas what to try next?
 
 Did you upgrade libapt-pkg4.12 to version 0.9.1 as well? That seems to
 have fixed this problem for me.
 
 -- 
 Regards,|
   Florian   | http://www.florian-kulzer.eu
 
 


Thank you very much - yes, that got it working.

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Boot issues with cryptdisks and lvm2

2012-04-18 Thread Baxter Kylie

Hi,

I recently took one of my machines up to Squeeze and found it no longer 
successfully boots (failing at disk check). It appears to be related to 
the order in which services are started. I'm hoping that someone here 
with more experience in the new rc system can offer a suggestion for how 
to alleviate this issue:


The block devices are stacked as follows:

sda1 - boot
sda2 - crypto (passphrase) - lvm2
sdb1 - crypto (keyfile on sda2 lvm volume) - lvm2
sdc1 - crypto (keyfile on sda2 lvm volume) - lvm2
...

This requires that services be (roughly) ordered:
cryptdisks-early - lvm2 - mount - cryptdisks - lvm2 - mount

In past releases (lenny, etch), this worked seamlessly but something 
appears to have changed. Is there anything I can do?


Regards,
BK


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Apache2 double free or corruption error on PHP pages

2012-04-18 Thread Günter Ladwig
Hi all,

we have just upgraded a server from lenny to squeeze and we're now having 
problems with Apache and PHP (presumably). We have a MediaWiki 1.18 
installation (not from a Debian package) on this server. The usual pages work 
fine, however as soon as I navigate to a history view or special page, I get a 
connection reset error in the browser.

I had a look at Apache's error.log and discovered this (full backtrace is at 
the end of this mail):

*** glibc detected *** /usr/sbin/apache2: double free or corruption (!prev): 
0xb956ec08 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x6b381)[0xb76e8381]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x6cbd8)[0xb76e9bd8]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(cfree+0x6d)[0xb76eccbd]
/usr/lib/libpcre.so.3(pcre_compile+0x413)[0xb7832143]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(pcre_get_compiled_regex_cache+0x25a)[0xb6d569ba]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0xa1184)[0xb6d5a184]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute_internal+0x4b)[0xb6fc3ceb]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x15fa3)[0xb60d4fa3]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x336bb8)[0xb6fefbb8]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute+0x1ce)[0xb6fc667e]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x16404)[0xb60d5404]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x3368a6)[0xb6fef8a6]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute+0x1ce)[0xb6fc667e]
[…snip…]

I have found several instances of similar double free bugs on Google, but 
usually a few years old and with no helpful suggestions. Any ideas on how I 
should go about diagnosing this problem?

Here is some information about the system:

neon:~# uname -a
Linux neon 2.6.32-5-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 04:36:28 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux

apache2 2.2.16-6+squeeze7
php5 5.3.3-7+squeeze8

neon:~# ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/alias.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/env.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/auth_basic.load   
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mime.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authn_file.load   
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/negotiation.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authz_default.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/perl.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authz_groupfile.load  
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authz_host.load   
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/reqtimeout.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authz_user.load   
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/autoindex.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/setenvif.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/cgi.load  
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/status.load
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dir.load  
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/vhost_alias.load

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Günter

Here is the full backtrace and memory map from error.log:

*** glibc detected *** /usr/sbin/apache2: double free or corruption (!prev): 
0xb9559ce8 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x6b381)[0xb76e8381]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x6cbd8)[0xb76e9bd8]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(cfree+0x6d)[0xb76eccbd]
/usr/lib/libpcre.so.3(pcre_compile+0x413)[0xb7832143]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(pcre_get_compiled_regex_cache+0x25a)[0xb6d569ba]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0xa1184)[0xb6d5a184]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute_internal+0x4b)[0xb6fc3ceb]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x15fa3)[0xb60d4fa3]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x336bb8)[0xb6fefbb8]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute+0x1ce)[0xb6fc667e]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x16404)[0xb60d5404]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x3368a6)[0xb6fef8a6]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute+0x1ce)[0xb6fc667e]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x16404)[0xb60d5404]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x3368a6)[0xb6fef8a6]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute+0x1ce)[0xb6fc667e]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x16404)[0xb60d5404]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x3368a6)[0xb6fef8a6]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute+0x1ce)[0xb6fc667e]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x16404)[0xb60d5404]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x3368a6)[0xb6fef8a6]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute+0x1ce)[0xb6fc667e]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x16404)[0xb60d5404]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(zend_call_function+0x841)[0xb6f92001]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(call_user_function_ex+0x64)[0xb6f92c74]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(php_pcre_replace_impl+0xa19)[0xb6d57c69]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(php_pcre_replace+0x65)[0xb6d58135]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x9f240)[0xb6d58240]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x9f967)[0xb6d58967]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute_internal+0x4b)[0xb6fc3ceb]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x15fa3)[0xb60d4fa3]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(+0x336bb8)[0xb6fefbb8]
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so(execute+0x1ce)[0xb6fc667e]
/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so(+0x16404)[0xb60d5404]

Re: RAID5 failure; possible to repair?

2012-04-18 Thread Daniel Koch
   - Zero all the superblocks on all the disks. (mdadm --zero-superblock
   /dev/sd{b..d})
   - Recreate the array with the --assume-clean option. (mdadm --create
   --verbose /dev/md0 --auto=yes --assume-clean --level=5 --raid-devices=3
   /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd)
   - Mark it possibly dirty with: mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
   --update=resync
   - Let it resync
   - Mount it and see if it is restored

If this is not working your raid is lost.


Re: apt-get dist-upgrade failed.

2012-04-18 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

Not all Debian mirrors work right ...

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:27:54AM +0530, Amrish Purohit wrote:
...
 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
 N: Unable to locate package libvlccore4

Change mirror site from http://ftp.us.debian.org to and something else
and try again.

Good luck,

Osamu


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RE: Can't upgrade anyting in Sid

2012-04-18 Thread mike
I am still new at this to a point what wood be the best way to go about
fixing this sense apt and aptitude seam to have broken itself

-Original Message-
From: Florian Kulzer [mailto:debian-li...@florian-kulzer.eu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:11 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Can't upgrade anyting in Sid

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:50:26 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 For the last few days apt-get upgrades in Sid always fail with this
 message:
 
 E: Internal error: APT::pkgPackageManager::MaxLoopCount reached in
 SmartConfigure for libc-bin:i386, aborting
 
 According to bug report 669060 this is supposed to be fiexd by the
 latest version of apt (0.9.1). I downloaded this and installed it with
 dpkg but the error still comes up. I also tried downloading and
 installing the latest version of libc-bin, mentioned in the error line,
 but that had depnendency problems. Any ideas what to try next?

Did you upgrade libapt-pkg4.12 to version 0.9.1 as well? That seems to
have fixed this problem for me.

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Re: RAID5 failure; possible to repair?

2012-04-18 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:03:04 +0200, Daniel Koch wrote:

- Zero all the superblocks on all the disks. (mdadm --zero-superblock
/dev/sd{b..d})
- Recreate the array with the --assume-clean option. (mdadm
--create --verbose /dev/md0 --auto=yes --assume-clean --level=5
--raid-devices=3 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd)
- Mark it possibly dirty with: mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
--update=resync
- Let it resync
- Mount it and see if it is restored

Thanks alot for your answer, Daniel.
I had four devices in the raid /dev/sd{b..e}1. So I did the this: 

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8BJXMqTV

I fear when I ran fsck yesterday it deleted the raid or the filesystem. 
It told me that it had some errors and will continue with three devices. 
Still in the progress it told me it will continue with two, then with one 
and in the end with zero. Then I ended up with the raid I mentioned in my 
first post with no discs but four spares.

fdisk tells me that md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table.
Can I try to repair the table?


Best regards
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Re: USB drive spins up every hour

2012-04-18 Thread Valentin Guggiana

On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:06:05 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:

 My USB-connected drive spins up every hour (or even half-hour).

I had the same problem running CentOS 6 and Xvnc. Xvnc leads to
load some Gnome apps and daemons. One of them is the udisks-daemon
(/usr/libexec/udisks-daemon under CentOS 6). After I kill this
daemon the problem was gone. To avoid of reloading the daemon
again I removed the execute permission:

chmod -x /usr/libexec/udisks-daemon

Maybe you can find this daemon in your OS distribution as well.
Good luck :)


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Re: Can't upgrade anyting in Sid

2012-04-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
[ Please try to adopt the posting/quoting style that I use (interleaved
  responses with appropriate trimming). It is in everybody's interest if
  each individual message by itself is easily understandable, with the
  relevant part of its history in chronological order. ]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:35:25 -0500, mike wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote earlier:
  On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:50:26 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
   E: Internal error: APT::pkgPackageManager::MaxLoopCount reached in
   SmartConfigure for libc-bin:i386, aborting
   
   According to bug report 669060 this is supposed to be fiexd by the
   latest version of apt (0.9.1). I downloaded this and installed it with
   dpkg but the error still comes up.
  
  Did you upgrade libapt-pkg4.12 to version 0.9.1 as well? That seems to
  have fixed this problem for me.

 I am still new at this to a point what wood be the best way to go about
 fixing this sense apt and aptitude seam to have broken itself

Aptitude was not completely broken on my system: I could no longer do a
full upgrade all at once, but it was possible to upgrade just the
critical apt packages with aptitude without running into the error
quoted above. You can try if any of the following commands work:

  aptitude upgrade '~i?source-package(^apt$)'
  aptitude upgrade apt libapt-pkg4.12
  apt-get install apt libapt-pkg4.12

If none of the above works then you can download the packages manually

  wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.9.1_$(dpkg 
--print-architecture).deb
  wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/libapt-inst1.5_0.9.1_$(dpkg 
--print-architecture).deb
  wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/libapt-pkg4.12_0.9.1_$(dpkg 
--print-architecture).deb

and install them directly with dpkg (as root or with sudo):

  dpkg -i apt_0.9.1_$(dpkg --print-architecture).deb
  dpkg -i libapt-pkg4.12_0.9.1_$(dpkg --print-architecture).deb
  dpkg -i libapt-inst1.5_0.9.1_$(dpkg --print-architecture).deb

If you do not get lucky with any of the above then show us the error
messages that you get.

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Re: apt-get dist-upgrade failed.

2012-04-18 Thread Indulekha
Amrish Purohit amrish.dis...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have repeated same with latest 6.0.4 kde live dvd, but getting the 
 saem result.


Hmmm.
Did you run apt-get update after changing your sources.list?

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Re: difficult to isolate problem - browser access to router has problems on on machine but not other

2012-04-18 Thread Arthur Marsh

Keith wrote, on 18/04/12 05:26:

On 17/04/12 14:53, Arthur Marsh wrote:



Thanks for your suggestions, but I've tried several browsers on the
AMD64 machine and experience the same fault, so I'm tending towards an
AMD64-specific bug that happens with the realtek 8169 chipset.

Arthur.



I haven't been following this thread, so may have missed it but have you
got the firmware drivers on your 64bit system, as you say it works on
your 32bit system?




Yes, firmware-realtek from non-free is installed on both machines.



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Re: about DSA-2452-1 apache2 -- insecure default configuration

2012-04-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-04-17 15:39:48 +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:25:17 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
  IMHO, the real bug is in mod_php or mod_rivet, that shouldn't be active
  (at least concerning the scripting features) by default unless this is
  explicitly told with some Options for the concerned directory.
 
 I can be wrong but the bug seems aimed to correct the package which 
 contains the file that enables the alias by default, hence the apache2 
 package.

But the user isn't necessarily the administrator. If the admin
installs mod_php, making the bug appear if the user has added
a symlink to /usr/share/doc, that's very bad.

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..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:10:38 +0100, Dom wrote in message 
4f8d79de.20...@rpdom.net:

 On 16/04/12 21:34, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote:
  To anybody interested, debian wheezy can't run on 64MB RAM on i386.
  Or actually it can run but package management is unusable so all
  debian benefits are actually lost.
 
  I tried pulling the .deb files on another machine, then transfer to
  the old machine. But dpkg is killed on 95% reading database (I think
  OOM killer). It fails even if I try to install 1 package.
 
 I run a basic Wheezy system on old machines with 64MB or 32MB of RAM
 on i386. I agree that the package management is almost unusable
 without work.
 
 What I do for a start is run a cutomised kernel with just the
 necessary drivers for those machines built in. Smaller kernel = more
 memory free for other things. Any devices other than the built in
 ones are supported via kernel modules when needed.
 
 Also, and this is the important thing, I have my own cut-down version
 of the Wheezy repository running on a slightly more powerful machine.
 By reducing the Packages file to just the packages that I use, the
 time and memory needed to process them comes down from hours to a few
 minutes.
 
 I realise that I'm not going to be able to keep these machines
 running for much longer, but I'll keep trying for as long as I can.

..do the math on power, maintenance etc cost on keeping the old 
junk running vs doing it e.g in a virtual machine on a newer host 
iron, you may find that the newer iron adds academic profits such 
as learning to run virtual machines.

..then again, in some climates, you _may_ have a use for the 
100W or 300W or so of waste heat generated by that old iron.

..waste heat value: Say 150W @ .5NOK/kWh and per year?  
arnt@celsius:~$ qalc 150W*1year*.5NOK/kWh to $ 
warning: It has been more than one week since the exchange 
rates last were updated. 
(150 * watt * (1 * year) * (0.5 * NOK)) / (kilowatt * hour) 
= approx. $110.73655 
arnt@celsius:~$ 


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DO A QCM

2012-04-18 Thread Alex Padoly
Hi,

I want to do a QCM that run in any plateform (LINUX, WINDOWS,)
Which Debian packages I can install

Regards

Alex


Which partition is which

2012-04-18 Thread Jens Tobiska
I have a computer with windows xp and two ntfs partitions. One of them
(D:) is empty and I would like to use it for debian. My problem is to
figure out which partition corresponds to the empty partition when
installing debian, i.e. which partition I can modify.

The partitions appear as follows in Windows XP disk management:

C: 139.80 GB NTFS, logical, boot
D: 139.65 GB NTFS, primary, system

In debian installer they appear as:

#2 primary 149.9 GB ntfs B
#5 logical 150.1 GB ntfs

I would guess that #2=D and #5=C based on relative size and
logical/primary. However, I am a bit confused by the B (which I
assume means boot), shouldn't that be on the logical/C partition?


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wheezy: / mounts readonly at boot, I can't figure out why

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Linksvayer
http://gondwanaland.com/i/20120417-boot.png shows boot screen photo;
nothing is logged obviously

fsck finds no problems http://gondwanaland.com/i/20120417-fsck.png

mount -o remount,rw / works fine

(but I have to restart network-manager and gdm3 to get a usable
system; I'm not sure it is related, but I can't seem to connect to a
service running on localhost, eg python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080 and
in another terminal w3m http://localhost:8080, w3m times out)

I don't notice anything amiss in fstab

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=2934c627-6f1a-438b-a877-1544108c7418 /   ext3
errors=remount-ro 0   1
# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=39b1f59e-6193-4c46-8b4d-80b183f0b19c noneswapsw
   0   0
/dev/scd0   /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/sdb1   /media/usb0 autorw,user,noauto  0   0


Root filesystem mounted fine under squeeze, and after I upgraded to
wheezy. I've been living with it for a bit, so I'm not exactly sure,
but I think it started after doing a dist-upgrade on wheezy, but that
could be coincidence. The machine is a Lenovo T400 FWIW.

Any pointers would be much appreciated. Hopefully I'm doing something
obviously wrong and fixable, but if not any hints about how to debug?

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: ..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-18 Thread Dom

On 17/04/12 21:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:10:38 +0100, Dom wrote in message
4f8d79de.20...@rpdom.net:



I realise that I'm not going to be able to keep these machines
running for much longer, but I'll keep trying for as long as I can.


..do the math on power, maintenance etc cost on keeping the old
junk running vs doing it e.g in a virtual machine on a newer host
iron, you may find that the newer iron adds academic profits such
as learning to run virtual machines.

..then again, in some climates, you _may_ have a use for the
100W or 300W or so of waste heat generated by that old iron.

..waste heat value: Say 150W @ .5NOK/kWh and per year?
arnt@celsius:~$ qalc 150W*1year*.5NOK/kWh to $
warning: It has been more than one week since the exchange
rates last were updated.
(150 * watt * (1 * year) * (0.5 * NOK)) / (kilowatt * hour)
= approx. $110.73655
arnt@celsius:~$



Done the math many times :-)

These little machines take about 30W max, are only used for an average 
of an hour a day. As for running costs? Peanuts. Heat output? Barely 
noticable.


My main laptop is slightly newer and about 10x the power. I have other 
systems, but nothing modern - I don't have the funds to get anything newer.


Besides, it's a fun challenge to keep the old ones running. I enjoy it :)
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Re: Which partition is which

2012-04-18 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Jens,

Jens Tobiska jtobi...@gmail.com wrote:
 C: 139.80 GB NTFS, logical, boot
 D: 139.65 GB NTFS, primary, system
 
 In debian installer they appear as:
 
 #2 primary 149.9 GB ntfs B
 #5 logical 150.1 GB ntfs
 
 I would guess that #2=D and #5=C based on relative size and
 logical/primary.

Yes.

 However, I am a bit confused by the B (which I
 assume means boot), shouldn't that be on the logical/C partition?

Yes. But your Windows claims that D: is the system partition, hence I
would be a little bit wary regarding the question if it is really
empty/unused.

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Re: Can't upgrade anyting in Sid

2012-04-18 Thread Frank McCormick

On 18/04/12 11:20 AM, Florian Kulzer wrote:

[ Please try to adopt the posting/quoting style that I use (interleaved
   responses with appropriate trimming). It is in everybody's interest if
   each individual message by itself is easily understandable, with the
   relevant part of its history in chronological order. ]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:35:25 -0500, mike wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote earlier:

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:50:26 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:

E: Internal error: APT::pkgPackageManager::MaxLoopCount reached in
SmartConfigure for libc-bin:i386, aborting

According to bug report 669060 this is supposed to be fiexd by the
latest version of apt (0.9.1). I downloaded this and installed it with
dpkg but the error still comes up.


Did you upgrade libapt-pkg4.12 to version 0.9.1 as well? That seems to
have fixed this problem for me.



I am still new at this to a point what wood be the best way to go about
fixing this sense apt and aptitude seam to have broken itself


Aptitude was not completely broken on my system: I could no longer do a
full upgrade all at once, but it was possible to upgrade just the
critical apt packages with aptitude without running into the error
quoted above. You can try if any of the following commands work:

   aptitude upgrade '~i?source-package(^apt$)'
   aptitude upgrade apt libapt-pkg4.12
   apt-get install apt libapt-pkg4.12

If none of the above works then you can download the packages manually

   wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.9.1_$(dpkg 
--print-architecture).deb
   wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/libapt-inst1.5_0.9.1_$(dpkg 
--print-architecture).deb
   wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/libapt-pkg4.12_0.9.1_$(dpkg 
--print-architecture).deb

and install them directly with dpkg (as root or with sudo):

   dpkg -i apt_0.9.1_$(dpkg --print-architecture).deb
   dpkg -i libapt-pkg4.12_0.9.1_$(dpkg --print-architecture).deb
   dpkg -i libapt-inst1.5_0.9.1_$(dpkg --print-architecture).deb

If you do not get lucky with any of the above then show us the error
messages that you get.



   Does anyone know how this whole ball of wax started ??


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Re: ..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-18 Thread Peter Easthope
On Wed, April 18, 2012 10:35 am, Dom wrote:
 These little machines take about 30W max, are only used for an average
 of an hour a day. As for running costs? Peanuts. Heat output? Barely
 noticable.

 My main laptop is slightly newer and about 10x the power. I have other
 systems, but nothing modern - I don't have the funds to get anything
 newer.

 Besides, it's a fun challenge to keep the old ones running. I enjoy it :)

I can relate to those points and wonder what fraction of CPU cycles
in the world, execute application code.  Could easily believe a
number less than 1%.  Great improvements of efficiency should be
possible in many aspects computing.

Regards,  ... Peter E.

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Me ajude a achar um lugar onde tirar a duvida - servidor caseiro com o debian

2012-04-18 Thread Alexsander Talles Comercial
Estou com duvida e não sei onde procurar, por isso estou enviado para ca
Estou montando uma especie de servidor caseiro com o debian e criando a
imagem com live-helper.

Duvidas:
Onde posso colocar essa imagem pra os usuarios baixarem? pois meu servidor
não deixa.
Se eu quiser transformar em uma distribuição derivada no debian quais os
aspectos legais para isso?


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Re: Sid upgrade problems

2012-04-18 Thread hvw59601

Frank McCormick wrote:

On 18/04/12 12:57 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:


This is what I saw after the last upgrade on my Sid installation:


Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
dpkg: warning: version 'v' has bad syntax: version number does not start
with digit update-initramfs:
Generating /boot/initrd.img-v dpkg: warning: version 'v' has bad syntax:
version number does not start with digit
WARNING: missing /lib/modules/v Device driver support needs thus be
built-in linux image! FATAL: v: not absolute path.
ERROR: could not open directory
/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_CEjqBs/lib/modules/3.2.0-2-686-pae:
No such file or directory
FATAL: could not search modules: No such file or directory

Anybody else having this problem ?



  Answering my own question - there was a file in /var/lib/initramfs
containing only the single letter v...that was causing the problem.
Don't ask how it got there...I dunno.

Sorry for the noise.





That should be /var/lib/initramfs-tools?

Hugo


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Re: Sid upgrade problems

2012-04-18 Thread Frank McCormick

On 18/04/12 02:42 PM, hvw59601 wrote:

Frank McCormick wrote:

On 18/04/12 12:57 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:


This is what I saw after the last upgrade on my Sid installation:


Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
dpkg: warning: version 'v' has bad syntax: version number does not start
with digit update-initramfs:
Generating /boot/initrd.img-v dpkg: warning: version 'v' has bad syntax:
version number does not start with digit
WARNING: missing /lib/modules/v Device driver support needs thus be
built-in linux image! FATAL: v: not absolute path.
ERROR: could not open directory
/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_CEjqBs/lib/modules/3.2.0-2-686-pae:
No such file or directory
FATAL: could not search modules: No such file or directory

Anybody else having this problem ?



Answering my own question - there was a file in /var/lib/initramfs
containing only the single letter v...that was causing the problem.
Don't ask how it got there...I dunno.

Sorry for the noise.





That should be /var/lib/initramfs-tools?

Hugo



  Yes, of course. It was a late night :)

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fsck forced when using /sbin/shutdown

2012-04-18 Thread Steven Post
Hi list,

I have this really annoying problem when I shutdown the machine using
sudo /sbin/shutdown -h +1
The machine seems to properly shutdown, but I always (at least I think)
get the message that a filesystem contains errors and needs to be
checked. When I use the shutdown option in Gnome, the system boots fine
without the fsck.

This is really annoying, especially as both / and /boot are on an SSD,
the system that is checked is always another rotational hard disk
mounted on /home.

The problem started when I reinstalled Debian Wheezy on the new SSD,
using the AMD64 architecture. At the same time I got rid of an old,
unused, partition on the HDD and extended the existing ext4 partition to
include the newly claimed space. All this using the Debian installer.
Before the reinstall the system was running Wheezy on the i386
architecture and the now extended partition was already used as /home,
it was not changed other then extending it.

Any ideas?

Kind regards,
Steven


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Re: ..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-18 Thread Indulekha
Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote:
 On 17/04/12 21:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:10:38 +0100, Dom wrote in message
 4f8d79de.20...@rpdom.net:


 I realise that I'm not going to be able to keep these machines
 running for much longer, but I'll keep trying for as long as I can.

 ..do the math on power, maintenance etc cost on keeping the old
 junk running vs doing it e.g in a virtual machine on a newer host
 iron, you may find that the newer iron adds academic profits such
 as learning to run virtual machines.

 ..then again, in some climates, you _may_ have a use for the
 100W or 300W or so of waste heat generated by that old iron.

 ..waste heat value: Say 150W @ .5NOK/kWh and per year?
 arnt@celsius:~$ qalc 150W*1year*.5NOK/kWh to $
 warning: It has been more than one week since the exchange
 rates last were updated.
 (150 * watt * (1 * year) * (0.5 * NOK)) / (kilowatt * hour)
 = approx. $110.73655
 arnt@celsius:~$


 Done the math many times :-)

 These little machines take about 30W max, are only used for an average 
 of an hour a day. As for running costs? Peanuts. Heat output? Barely 
 noticable.

 My main laptop is slightly newer and about 10x the power. I have other 
 systems, but nothing modern - I don't have the funds to get anything newer.

 Besides, it's a fun challenge to keep the old ones running. I enjoy it :)
 -- 

There is a special appeal in the challenge of keeping obsolete 
machines alive, and a unique form of satifaction in not indulging 
in the rampant consumerism that surrounds us too. 

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Re: Which partition is which

2012-04-18 Thread Keith

On 18/04/12 17:47, Jens Tobiska wrote:

I have a computer with windows xp and two ntfs partitions. One of them
(D:) is empty and I would like to use it for debian. My problem is to
figure out which partition corresponds to the empty partition when
installing debian, i.e. which partition I can modify.

The partitions appear as follows in Windows XP disk management:

C: 139.80 GB NTFS, logical, boot
D: 139.65 GB NTFS, primary, system

In debian installer they appear as:

#2 primary 149.9 GB ntfs B
#5 logical 150.1 GB ntfs

I would guess that #2=D and #5=C based on relative size and
logical/primary. However, I am a bit confused by the B (which I
assume means boot), shouldn't that be on the logical/C partition?


   
#5 logical 150.1 GB ntfs would be your D: as it is a logical partition  
not a primary, which is needed for a regular Windows installation.


(You can make certain by using a live distro  mounting it  checking 
the content.)



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which errors are critical for integrity of ext[234] file system?

2012-04-18 Thread Martin T
I was playing with dd conv=noerror option. It continues reading the
input file(for example HDD/SSD partition) even in case there are read
errors. Which errors are critical for integrity of ext[234] file
system? As I understand, Linux views the file system as a common set
of objects- superblock(maintains and describes the state of the file
system), inode(unique identifier for all the file system objects and
contains necessary metadata), dentry(glues together inode number and
file name), and file(bunch of bytes arranged in a certain order). Am I
correct that if the main superblock is damaged, the spare one is used
by fsck? In addition, am I correct that if sectors which hold content
of a file(for example .avi movie) are damaged, then only this file is
corrupted but file system itself is in good shape?


regards,
martin


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possible screw-up installing HP printer

2012-04-18 Thread John Lindsay
I just installed an HP Laserjet P1102w. I have the Hp status icon 
showing in the upper RH side of my toolbar. The printer icon shows up 
whenever I print something BUT I have the following folders and files 
residing in my Downloads folder and I want to know if I can just delete 
them or did I really screw up the installation of this printer by 
causing it to be installed in my Downloads folder?


Some of the folder names are 
'base','copier','data','fax','hplip-3.12.2', which shows a locked file 
and root only viewing, And even more files like align.py, cups_drv.inc, 
hp-hp.io, hpijs etc and a lot of libapdk_la files. Its only 65meg of 
files and folders but it is very messy and I would like to clean it up.


John



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Re: wheezy: / mounts readonly at boot, I can't figure out why

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Linksvayer
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:19, Mike Linksvayer m...@gondwanaland.com wrote:
 http://gondwanaland.com/i/20120417-boot.png shows boot screen photo;
 nothing is logged obviously

 fsck finds no problems http://gondwanaland.com/i/20120417-fsck.png

 mount -o remount,rw / works fine

 (but I have to restart network-manager and gdm3 to get a usable
 system; I'm not sure it is related, but I can't seem to connect to a
 service running on localhost, eg python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080 and
 in another terminal w3m http://localhost:8080, w3m times out)

I also asked this at
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/36797/readonly-on-boot-but-dont-see-why-how-to-investigate-and-fix
and didn't get an answer, but was prompted enough by questions to
maybe have figured it out; at least / now is mounted rw at root.

I think the problem was that the /etc/rcS.d/07checkroot.sh symbolic
link to /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh was missing. I have no idea how;
don't see a related bug report. I'm curious if anyone knows.

I'm also curious what actually does determine boot order as of wheezy
currently. I see the dependency annotations in /etc/init.d scripts,
and what I guess is a rendering of those in /etc/init.d/.depend.* (and
those files were also recently updated; does insserv do that? I ran it
thinking it'd give me command line options), but also the /etc/rc*
stuff.

Mike


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Re: DO A QCM

2012-04-18 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:50, Alex Padoly alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to do a QCM that run in any plateform (LINUX, WINDOWS,)
 Which Debian packages I can install

What is a QCM?

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Can't upgrade anyting in Sid

2012-04-18 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 01:58:57PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:

Does anyone know how this whole ball of wax started ??

Why does it matter, one has to expect issues like this when running Sid.


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How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image

2012-04-18 Thread Sarveshwar.Bandi
I am trying to install different versions of Debian from Debian install CDs. 
For example Debian 6.0.0, 6.0.3 and 6.0.4. After installing any of CDs I see 
the debian_version is showing as 6.0.4. The uname -a shows the same after any 
of the installations. I want to install each of these versions and be able to 
build my driver against them. So I also need the linux kernel  header for the 
specific version of debian and kernel sources too.

I was told that installer  is automatically upgrading the system. No matter 
what combination I try during install, the debian_version and uname -a are the 
same!!!

Or is this expected behavior? What am I missing?


Re: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image

2012-04-18 Thread Richard Hector

On 19/04/12 15:27, sarveshwar.ba...@emulex.com wrote:

I am trying to install different versions of Debian from Debian install
CDs. For example Debian 6.0.0, 6.0.3 and 6.0.4. After installing any of
CDs I see the debian_version is showing as 6.0.4. The uname –a shows the
same after any of the installations. I want to install each of these
versions and be able to build my driver against them. So I also need the
linux kernel header for the specific version of debian and kernel
sources too.

I was told that installer is automatically upgrading the system. No
matter what combination I try during install, the debian_version and
uname –a are the same!!!

Or is this expected behavior? What am I missing?



Isn't there an option, during the apt setup, to not use 
security.debian.org for security updates? I guess you might need the 
'expert' install option for that (I always use it, so I don't know 
what's left out if you don't). Or even don't plug it into the network at 
all.


Of course you'd need full CDs; I imagine netinst ones will always need 
to download packages, and so will get current ones.


But also, why do you need to support outdated (potentially insecure) 
kernels?


Richard


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Re: Can't upgrade anyting in Sid

2012-04-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
I'm running a mix of wheezy/sid and aptitude update fails to download 
headers consistently tonight.  Could it be a dos attack is happening 
against those servers?On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Stephen Allen wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 01:58:57PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
 
 Does anyone know how this whole ball of wax started ??
 
 Why does it matter, one has to expect issues like this when running Sid.
 
 
 


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http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html


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Re: Me ajude a achar um lugar onde tirar a duvida - servidor caseiro com o debian

2012-04-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Please send your question to the debian-user-portugu...@debian.org
mailing list instead.

Por favor, envie sua pergunta para o debian-user-portugu...@debian.org
lista de discussão.

Bob

Alexsander Talles Comercial wrote:
 Estou com duvida e não sei onde procurar, por isso estou enviado para ca
 Estou montando uma especie de servidor caseiro com o debian e criando a
 imagem com live-helper.
 
 Duvidas:
 Onde posso colocar essa imagem pra os usuarios baixarem? pois meu servidor
 não deixa.
 Se eu quiser transformar em uma distribuição derivada no debian quais os
 aspectos legais para isso?


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installing emacs on debian 6.0.4

2012-04-18 Thread Dan Hitt
I just installed debian 6.0.4 on a partition on my computer.

I would like to install emacs on it, but so far have been quite unsuccessful.

I imagine that something is missing from my /etc/apt/sources.list.

My sources.list file is (omitting all comments):
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
deb-src http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib

I also ran:
wget -q -O - http://emacs.naquadah.org/key.gpg | sudo apt-key add -
to get to the naquadah stuff.

I've tried installing with
   sudo apt-get install emacs-snapshot
as well as with the Synaptic package manager.

Errors have this sort of form:
emacs-snapshot:
 Depends: emacs-snapshot-bin-common but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: libm17n-0 (=1.6.1) but it is not installable
 Depends: libotf0 (=0.9.11) but it is not installable

The Synaptic error page also says (cannot copy/paste here, so typing):
The following packages have unresolvable dependencies.  Make sure that
all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences.

Note that prior to using either the command line or Synaptic, i did:
   apt-get update
   apt-get -f dist-upgrade

So . . . i'd be grateful if anybody could give me an example of a
correct sources.list for 6.0.4,
or suggest something else to try.  (And if this is in the fine manual,
or the faq, or some other well known place, please point me to it.)

Thanks in advance.

dan


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Re: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image

2012-04-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Hector wrote:
 sarveshwar.ba...@emulex.com wrote:
  I am trying to install different versions of Debian from Debian install
  CDs. For example Debian 6.0.0, 6.0.3 and 6.0.4. After installing any of
  CDs I see the debian_version is showing as 6.0.4.

 Isn't there an option, during the apt setup, to not use
 security.debian.org for security updates? I guess you might need the
 'expert' install option for that (I always use it, so I don't know
 what's left out if you don't). Or even don't plug it into the
 network at all.

If you are installing from CD then don't use a network.  Unplug the
network and install offline.  That will guarentee you the versions are
only from the CD.  After installation remove any networked locations
from /etc/apt/sources.list.  Because otherwise any installations or
upgrades will pull in the latest versions from the reposities.

 Of course you'd need full CDs; I imagine netinst ones will always
 need to download packages, and so will get current ones.

Of course the netinstall disk will need a network.

 I want to install each of these versions and be able to build my
 driver against them. So I also need the linux kernel header for the
 specific version of debian and kernel sources too.

 But also, why do you need to support outdated (potentially insecure)
 kernels?

That does seem like a strange time machine request.

Bob


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Re: installing emacs on debian 6.0.4

2012-04-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Dan Hitt wrote:
 I just installed debian 6.0.4 on a partition on my computer.
 
 I would like to install emacs on it, but so far have been quite unsuccessful.
 
 I imagine that something is missing from my /etc/apt/sources.list.

Yes.  You are missing the main archive.

 My sources.list file is (omitting all comments):
 deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib

You do not have http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian there.

 deb http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
 deb-src http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/

I am not familiar with those.  Why do you have them?  For the moment
humor me and comment those out.  Then install the standard set and
install emacs from there.

You want these:

  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free

  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main contrib non-free

  deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free

And optionally you may want these.  I will mention them so that you
have them.  But they are definitely optional and not required.
However if you are withing to run Firefox on Squeeze then you
definitely want these added to get the current version.  See
http://mozilla.debian.net/ for more information.

  deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
  deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-release

After editing your /etc/apt/sources.list file run:

  apt-get update

  apt-get install emacs
  apt-get install emacs23-common-non-dfsg

Additionally you might find these optional extras useful:

  apt-get install emacs-el
  apt-get install emacs-goodies-el

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RE: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image

2012-04-18 Thread Sarveshwar.Bandi
Richard/Bob,
I am new to debian. Here is how I seen things work in other distributions, it 
is common for customers to run different versions of the kernel. If they have 
issues with an older kernel, then there is a need to provide a driver with the 
fixes built against that version of the kernel. You install CD for older kernel 
and build a driver against it.

If somebody had installed and deployed  a Debian 6.0.0 kernel when it was 
stable and has an issue with one of the driver. Will he need to upgrade to  
latest 6.0.x and install a driver with fix? (option1 ) or can he upgrade the 
driver alone (option 2)?

If option 2 is even valid, then I need to first be able to install Debian 6.0.0 
 version of the kernel a build a driver against it. 

I guess I have not understood the basics of versioning in debian kernels. When 
you say 6.0.0 and 6.0.3 are outdated, does it mean everyone using those kernels 
are expected  to move to  6.0.4?

Thanks,
Sarvesh

-Original Message-
From: Bob Proulx [mailto:b...@proulx.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:01 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel 
image

Richard Hector wrote:
 sarveshwar.ba...@emulex.com wrote:
  I am trying to install different versions of Debian from Debian 
  install CDs. For example Debian 6.0.0, 6.0.3 and 6.0.4. After 
  installing any of CDs I see the debian_version is showing as 6.0.4.

 Isn't there an option, during the apt setup, to not use 
 security.debian.org for security updates? I guess you might need the 
 'expert' install option for that (I always use it, so I don't know 
 what's left out if you don't). Or even don't plug it into the network 
 at all.

If you are installing from CD then don't use a network.  Unplug the network and 
install offline.  That will guarentee you the versions are only from the CD.  
After installation remove any networked locations from /etc/apt/sources.list.  
Because otherwise any installations or upgrades will pull in the latest 
versions from the reposities.

 Of course you'd need full CDs; I imagine netinst ones will always need 
 to download packages, and so will get current ones.

Of course the netinstall disk will need a network.

 I want to install each of these versions and be able to build my 
 driver against them. So I also need the linux kernel header for the 
 specific version of debian and kernel sources too.

 But also, why do you need to support outdated (potentially insecure) 
 kernels?

That does seem like a strange time machine request.

Bob


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Beeldscherm niet op zwart

2012-04-18 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hallo,

Een klant wil een mededelingenscherm maken voor een school, ik
ondersteun daar wat bij.

Een probleem is dat het scherm na een enige tijd steeds op zwart gaat,
ook al zegt hij in energiebeheer en schermbeveiliging van Gnome dat
dit nooit mag gebeuren.

Als hij met de muis beweegt dan ziet hij weer beeld, maar dat is
natuurlijk niet wat de bedoeling bij een mededelingenbord.

Iemand een idee hoe dit op te lossen?  Of iets waarop ik kan zoeken in
Google?

Groet,
Paul.



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Re: Beeldscherm niet op zwart

2012-04-18 Thread Martijn van Brummelen
Hi,
 Hallo,

 Een klant wil een mededelingenscherm maken voor een school, ik
 ondersteun daar wat bij.

 Een probleem is dat het scherm na een enige tijd steeds op zwart gaat,
 ook al zegt hij in energiebeheer en schermbeveiliging van Gnome dat
 dit nooit mag gebeuren.

 Als hij met de muis beweegt dan ziet hij weer beeld, maar dat is
 natuurlijk niet wat de bedoeling bij een mededelingenbord.

 Iemand een idee hoe dit op te lossen?  Of iets waarop ik kan zoeken in
 Google?
Misschien kun je hier wat vinden
http://library.gnome.org/admin/deployment-guide/


Groet,
Martijn van Brummelen


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Re: Beeldscherm niet op zwart

2012-04-18 Thread pb0aia
Probeer eens consoleblank=0 als kernel optie mee te geven bij het opstarten.
Kees


 Hallo,

 Een klant wil een mededelingenscherm maken voor een school, ik
 ondersteun daar wat bij.

 Een probleem is dat het scherm na een enige tijd steeds op zwart gaat,
 ook al zegt hij in energiebeheer en schermbeveiliging van Gnome dat
 dit nooit mag gebeuren.

 Als hij met de muis beweegt dan ziet hij weer beeld, maar dat is
 natuurlijk niet wat de bedoeling bij een mededelingenbord.

 Iemand een idee hoe dit op te lossen?  Of iets waarop ik kan zoeken in
 Google?

 Groet,
 Paul.



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Re: Beeldscherm niet op zwart

2012-04-18 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 18-04-12 12:30, Paul van der Vlis schreef:
 Hallo,
 
 Een klant wil een mededelingenscherm maken voor een school, ik
 ondersteun daar wat bij.
 
 Een probleem is dat het scherm na een enige tijd steeds op zwart gaat,
 ook al zegt hij in energiebeheer en schermbeveiliging van Gnome dat
 dit nooit mag gebeuren.
 
 Als hij met de muis beweegt dan ziet hij weer beeld, maar dat is
 natuurlijk niet wat de bedoeling bij een mededelingenbord.
 
 Iemand een idee hoe dit op te lossen?  Of iets waarop ik kan zoeken in
 Google?

Bedankt allen voor de antwoorden.

Het lijkt er op dat het probleem is opgelost, tenminste hier op mijn
testmachine (misschien is het nog hardware afhankelijk).

Toen ik eenmaal door had dat ik moest zoeken op screen blanking vond
ik deze pagina: http://www.shellperson.net/prevent-screen-blanking/

Wat ik in de praktijk gedaan heb is dit:
xset -dpms; xset s blank

Volgens mij is vooral dat eerste interessant. Als je kijkt met xset q
dan zie je dat je daarmee Energy-Star oftewel DPMS uit zet.

Groetjes,
Paul.

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