Reglages accuses de reception [Etait: Re: Outil Thérapeutique]

2012-05-05 Thread David Pinson

Le 03/05/2012 11:24, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Le 02/05/2012 19:24, David Pinson a écrit :

Le 02/05/2012 17:36, Txo a écrit :

En ce mercredi 02 mai 2012 à 17 h 31 Debian liste FR nous susurrait :


Bonjour

Débute de solution :
Aller sur http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2012/05/
trouver le message et l'ouvrir
En haut, a droite, un bouton pour signaler le spam.

Cordialement

Et surtout ne pas citer le message pour le dénigrer; Ça ne fait que
faire le sale boulot du spammeur à sa place.


Désolé...
Ok, promis... Je ne le referai plus!


Et ce qui nous intéresserait beaucoup c'est d'arrêter de poster sur 
cette (les) ML en demandant un (inutile) accusé de réception.



Bonjour,
Ok, je viens de le désactiver (provisoirement).
Je me suis justement penché sur cette question:
Sous thunderbird, est-il possible de régler ça dans le contexte:
demander accusé réception à tout le monde excepté les ML et autres 
désignés par l'utilisateur ?

Mr Google ne me dit pas tout...  :-)
Merci pour vos réponses,
Linuxement vôtre,
David P.







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Re: gestion de spams avec wheezy

2012-05-05 Thread JB
Le jeudi 03 mai 2012 à 21:53 +0200, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 
 Le jeudi 03 mai 2012, JB a écrit...
 
 
  sous Debian, quels outils de gestion des mails peuvent résoudre mon
  problème:
  -recevoir mon courrier,
  -rejeter tous les destinataires pour un nom de domaine sauf un
  à peut-être vous lire
 
 Je ne suis pas spécialiste de mails, mais avec Postfix et un
 check_recipient_access pour smtpd_recipient_restrictions, tu dois
 pouvoir filtrer tout ce que tu veux.
 
 -- 
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bonjour avec beaucoup, beaucoupde retard,
postfix m'en fait BAVER!!!
j'en suis à douter: Orange autorise-il l'utilisation du port 25?
merci pour la proposition
A+
JB


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Re: gestion de spams avec wheezy

2012-05-05 Thread JB
Le vendredi 04 mai 2012 à 01:14 +0200, Alain Vaugham a écrit :
 Le Thu, 03 May 2012 17:54:18 +0200,
 JB jacques.briq...@orange.fr a écrit :
 
  bonsoir,
  sous Debian, quels outils de gestion des mails peuvent résoudre mon
  problème:
  -recevoir mon courrier,
 Dépends du contexte.
 
  -rejeter tous les destinataires pour un nom de domaine sauf un
 J'utilise des règles Procmail.
 Après traitements, celui-ci délivre les courriers dans les boîtes.
 
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 Clef GPG : 0xD26D18BC
 
bonjour également avec beaucoup, big-beaucoup de retard
aucune éducation,
procmail et master  sont actif:
root@alpha30:/etc/postfix# /etc/init.d/postfix restart
[ ok ] Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent: postfix.
[ ok ] Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent: postfix.
root@alpha30:/etc/postfix# 
correctement paramétré c'est un autre problème!
merci por les conseilles
A+
JB


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Re: gestion de spams avec wheezy

2012-05-05 Thread deb-account
On 05/05/12 09:55, JB wrote:

 j'en suis à douter: Orange autorise-il l'utilisation du port 25?
   
Oui. Pourquoi ?

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Re: gestion de spams avec wheezy

2012-05-05 Thread JB
Le samedi 05 mai 2012 à 10:23 +0200, deb-account a écrit :
 On 05/05/12 09:55, JB wrote:
 
  j'en suis à douter: Orange autorise-il l'utilisation du port 25?

 Oui. Pourquoi ?
 
je suis id*ot 25 c'est smtp,
pour essayer la mise en eouvre, j'utilise :
http://wiki.debian.org/Postfix#Installing_and_Configuring_Postfix_on_Debian

ainsi que la lecture chez son cousin Ub
A+
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Re: Intallation de debian sur un eeepc

2012-05-05 Thread deb-account
On 05/05/12 07:05, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
 Bonjour.

 J'espère que ma question n'est pas trop récurrente ; j'avoue ne pas avoir
 cherché dans les archives, honte à moi :-)
   
Tu n'as pas nécessairement besoin d'aller fouiller dans les archives :-)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+installation+eepc

-
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Re: Intallation de debian sur un eeepc

2012-05-05 Thread Frédéric ZULIAN
Le Sat, May 05, 2012 at 07:05:21AM +0200, Philippe Delavalade écrivait :
 Bonjour.
 
 J'espère que ma question n'est pas trop récurrente ; j'avoue ne pas avoir
 cherché dans les archives, honte à moi :-)
 
 Je suis l'heureux propriétaire d'un eeepc Asus 1011px équipé au départ
 d'une ubuntu pas trop moderne mais c'est sans importance.
 
 Je voudrais savoir si je peux installer une debian à la place sans courir
 de risques ; je n'y connais rien en matière de gestion de l'énergie et j'ai
 des craintes à ce sujet.
 
 Quelqu'un peut-il me rassurer ?
 

Je n'ai jamais eu de pb en installant Debian sur des EEPC.
Il est possible de modifier la gestion de l'energie sans difficulté
(fréquence variable du cpu, luminosité de l'affichage, délais de mise en
veille ... ).

Actuellement j'ai un Samsung avec une testing.

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Re: Intallation de debian sur un eeepc

2012-05-05 Thread Guillaume Seren
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On 05/05/2012 07:05, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
 Bonjour.
Bonjour

 
 J'espère que ma question n'est pas trop récurrente ; j'avoue ne pas avoir
 cherché dans les archives, honte à moi :-)
Regarde du coté du wiki : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC

 Je voudrais savoir si je peux installer une debian à la place sans courir
 de risques ;
Oui je l'ai fais sur plusieurs machines cela ne pose pas de problèmes,
Ubuntu est basé sur Debian (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu).

 je n'y connais rien en matière de gestion de l'énergie et j'ai
 des craintes à ce sujet.
Cela fonctionne très bien, tout est configurable,
pour plus d'information je te conseille de regarder :
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Configure

Librement,
Guillaume.

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Re: gestion de spams avec wheezy

2012-05-05 Thread JB
Le samedi 05 mai 2012 à 10:00 +0200, JB a écrit :
 Le vendredi 04 mai 2012 à 01:14 +0200, Alain Vaugham a écrit :
  Le Thu, 03 May 2012 17:54:18 +0200,
  JB jacques.briq...@orange.fr a écrit :
-Référence wiki:

Add your hostname (computer name). (Use command hostname at the
command-line to display your hostname if not sure.) 

postconf -e myhostname=server1.example.com

pour vous server1.example.com serait quoi?

la commande hostname me retourne alpha30.bohain.org
bon appétit
A+
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Re: Ma libc6 à mal !

2012-05-05 Thread C. Mourad Jaber

Le 01/05/2012 10:07, Jérôme a écrit :

Le mardi 01 mai 2012 à 00:51 +0200, Bzzz a écrit :

C'est à cause de trucs comme ça que j'ai laissé tomber testing pour
unstable; au moins quand ça crash on sait (à peu près) pourquoi,
et ce type de PB reste extrêmement rare (et en tout cas peut
être évité juste avec listbugs).

C'est pas faux, testing c'est pas plus proche de stable mais en cours
d'intégration pour stable, grosse nuance qui ne met pas à l'abris de
gros gag, ni de problèmes durables.

Avec Sid on a beaucoup plus de mises à jour, les problèmes possibles
sont plus fréquents mais résolus rapidement.

L'un ou l'autre est un choix, mais dans les 2 cas : Ce n'est pas une
stable. Il faut être très prudent sur les mises à jour et savoir ce
qu'on fait.

Pour les problèmes de chemins, il me semble qu'il y a déjà eu quelques
petits bugs avec la nouvelle arborescence multiarch je ne sais pas si
ça a un rapport.



C'est peut-être le cas !

Je vais tenter un upgrade vers la libc de SID... avec un peu de chance, la 
magie opérera !

Cependant, je prévois de repartir d'un CD debian CUT.

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Re: Intallation de debian sur un eeepc

2012-05-05 Thread Frederic Robert
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 07:05:21AM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
 Je voudrais savoir si je peux installer une debian à la place sans courir
 de risques ; je n'y connais rien en matière de gestion de l'énergie et j'ai
 des craintes à ce sujet.

Bonjour,

Est-ce le 1011 ou 1001 px? Si c'est le 1001 px, j'ai installé debian squeeze 
sans problèmes. Je l'utilise avec lxde. J'écris en direct de ce pc en ce moment.

Bien à vous,

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Re: Reglages accuses de reception [Etait: Re: Outil Thérapeutique]

2012-05-05 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 05 May 2012 09:40:55 +0200
David Pinson dpt...@free.fr wrote:

 Sous thunderbird, est-il possible de régler ça dans le contexte:
 demander accusé réception à tout le monde excepté les ML et
 autres désignés par l'utilisateur ?

Aucun intérêt, sinon faire chier tous tes correspondants ainsi que
rallonger la longue liste des courageux qui ne les renvoient jamais
(dès fois que prendre une décision une fois dans leur vie leur
retombe dessus).

Si tu ne veux pas de spams, filtre à l'arrivée; ou utilise une BAL
fournie par une boîte qui intègre des filtres nativement (gmx,
gmail, etc)

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Interprétation log de iptable

2012-05-05 Thread Dominique Asselineau
Bonjour,

Sur un VPS faisant tourner Apache, Postfix et MySQL (uniquement en
local pour ce dernier) J'ai installé des règles iptable manuellement
en prenant l'exemple du manuel de sécurisation de Debian
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/

Ça fonctionne visiblement très bien mais en consultant les logs, j'ai
un doute sur ce qui a bien pu se passer ou tenter de se passer car ça
a justement été bloqué par iptable.

La ligne de log est la suivante

May  2 21:27:47 NomDuVPS kernel: [2773675.465534] IN= OUT=venet0 
SRC=IPduVPS DST=IPmachineDistante LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=46418 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0

note : j'ai mis entre  des infos pas forcément bonnes à publier.

Apparemment il s'agit de paquets émis depuis le VPS via le port 80
habituellement utilisé par le serveur web, en l'occurrence Apache,
pour récupérer les requêtes HTTP.  J'ai d'ailleurs consulter les logs
d'Apache et je n'y trouve rien à ce moment-là.

Quel service a bien pu tenter d'émettre ces paquets.  Dans les logs il
y a une dizaine de lignes de ce genre en l'espace d'une minute et rien
depuis.  Où dois-je fouiller pour en savoir plus ?

Merci de votre sagacité.

dom
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Re: gestion de spams avec wheezy

2012-05-05 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le samedi 05 mai 2012, JB a écrit...



 postconf -e myhostname=server1.example.com

 pour vous server1.example.com serait quoi?

 la commande hostname me retourne alpha30.bohain.org

Ben ça.

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RISQUE POSSIBLE SUR LIGHTDM

2012-05-05 Thread Bzzz
Il semblerait que lightdm ouvre un trou de sécurité, si tant est
qu'il soit le même que celui de trudububu: il crée un user guest
non-enregistré dans la base normale, mais laissant la possibilité
d'aller jeter un œil sur les fichiers des autres utilisateurs
(d'ailleurs, pourquoi Debian ne change-t'elle pas les droits par
défauts des $HOME par 750 au lieu de 755?)

Voici le post original:

I know there's not much new here, but I am amazed that Ubuntu, Linux
Mint and friends ship with a Guest account present and enabled.

The Guest account is surreptitiously added through a lightdm
configuration file, and is not part of the standard user database.
Because its not part of the standard user database, it can't be
disabled through /etc/shadow, nor disable it through familiar tools
such as userdel and usermod. Additionally, the damn account does not
show up in distribution provided tools such as User Accounts applet.

To make matters worse, grepping for guest returns 0 results because
lightdm.conf does not mention one must add the following to disable
the guest account (nothing is required to enable the account):

allow-guest=false

To add insult to injury, the Guest account is not sandboxed and user
home directories lack sufficient ACLs, so the guest account is able to
wander through user's home directories:

guest-dojMxl@vb-mint-12-x64 ~ $ pwd
/tmp/guest-dojMxl
guest-dojMxl@vb-mint-12-x64 ~ $ whoami
guest-dojMxl
guest-dojMxl@vb-mint-12-x64 /home/jwalton $ cd /home/
guest-dojMxl@vb-mint-12-x64 /home $ ls -al
total 12
drwxr-xr-x  3 rootroot4096 2012-05-05 16:29 .
drwxr-xr-x 23 rootroot4096 2012-05-05 16:32 ..
drwxr-xr-x  5 jwalton jwalton 4096 2012-05-05 16:35 jwalton
guest-dojMxl@vb-mint-12-x64 ~ $ cd /home/jwalton/
guest-dojMxl@vb-mint-12-x64 /home/jwalton $ ls -al
total 28
drwxr-xr-x 5 jwalton jwalton 4096 2012-05-05 16:35 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 rootroot4096 2012-05-05 16:29 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 jwalton jwalton  220 2012-05-05 16:29 .bash_logout
drwx-- 3 jwalton jwalton 4096 2012-05-05 16:35 .cache
drwxr-xr-x 3 jwalton jwalton 4096 2012-05-05 16:29 .config
drwxr-xr-x 4 jwalton jwalton 4096 2012-05-05 16:29 .mozilla
-rw-r--r-- 1 jwalton jwalton  675 2012-05-05 16:29 .profile
...

 Is there any reason a KIOSK-like account is enabled by default? Do
KIOSKs really dominate the desktop market to warrant the account out
of the box?


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Re: Interprétation log de iptable

2012-05-05 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le samedi 05 mai 2012, Dominique Asselineau a écrit...


 May  2 21:27:47 NomDuVPS kernel: [2773675.465534] IN= OUT=venet0 
 SRC=IPduVPS DST=IPmachineDistante LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 
 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=46418 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0

 y a une dizaine de lignes de ce genre en l'espace d'une minute et rien
 depuis.  Où dois-je fouiller pour en savoir plus ?

C'est un paquet RST. Si tu drop et loges les paquets invalides, possible
que ça vienne de là. Un RST qui aurait été envoyé après qu'une connexion
soit supprimée, par exemple.

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Re: [OT] Financiada la liberación de The Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-05 Thread Felix Perez
El día 4 de mayo de 2012 10:46, Jorge A. Secreto
jorgesecr...@gmail.com escribió:
 2012/5/3 Francisco Antonio francisc@linuxmail.org:
 Estimados,


 Leí este articulo
 http://debian.barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=12/05/02/199200from=rss SI ES
 CIERTO A LA ESPERA Y NADA GRACIAS.-

 Gracias por compartirlo.
 Ahora aclarame una duda, por favor.
 ¿Cual es la utilidad de incluir, como firma, código que es potencialmente
 peligroso?

¿Por qué es un guaker de los mas malos?

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[RESUELTO][OT] OOpenlayer dudas generales

2012-05-05 Thread J.Alejandro Martinez Linares



El 04/05/12 18:31, Camaleón escribió:

El Fri, 04 May 2012 10:39:39 -0400, islanis escribió:


Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com  escribió:


El Fri, 04 May 2012 09:29:38 -0400, islanis escribió:


Alguien ha trabajado con openlayer tengo algunas dudas que quiero
aclarrar,mi gran dudaes como configurar el proxy.cgi en mi  servidor
web

Esto es lo que pone en su FAQ, a ver si te da alguna pista:

(...)


- How do I set up a ProxyHost?

An example proxy host script is available here:
trunk/openlayers/examples/ proxy.cgi

ya lo conseguí y lo puse en practica pero no funciona

¿Qué significa no funciona? ¿Has cargado la página y qué te aparece?
¿Has revisado los registros de error de Apache y qué te dicen?


For the standard Apache configuration, you would place proxy.cgi into
your /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ directory.

Once a proxy host script has been installed, you must then edit the
OpenLayers.ProxyHost variable to match that URL.

Given the above standard Apache configuration:

 OpenLayers.ProxyHost = /cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?url=;

If you have done something like this, you should be able to visit:

  http://YourDomain.example.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi

Esta es la parte que no entiendo , me parece que hay que tocar algunas
otras cosas, es que de entrada como lo estoy probando en mi misma pc lo
que pongo es

¿Qué es lo que pones? :-)


debo pensar entonces que localhost=YourDomain.example.com o como es?

Las instrucciones dan por hecho que tienes el Apache bien configurado y
por ende, que tienes un alias creado al directorio /cgi-bin por lo que
si este es tu caso tienes que poner tal y como indican, cargar la página
web y debería funcionar.

YourDomain.example.com tienes que sustituirlo -obviamente- por el
equipo donde tengas configurado el Apache, aunque seguramente te funcione
poniendo la ip local o localhost si lo ejecutas desde el mismo equipo
donde tienes el Apache (http://192.168.0.1/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi; o http://
localhost/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi).

Saludos,

ya pude dar con lo que era era unas lineas de codigo en el proxy.cgi, y 
las cambie y ya me funciona, es cambiar lo que dice 
http://www.openlayers.org por http://localhost y bueno agregarle a 
allowedHosts los dos nuevos permitidos , es decir , es jugar con esos 
datos , gracias a todos











#!/usr/bin/env python -u


This is a blind proxy that we use to get around browser
restrictions that prevent the Javascript from loading pages not on the
same server as the Javascript.  This has several problems: it's less
efficient, it might break some sites, and it's a security risk because
people can use this proxy to browse the web and possibly do bad stuff
with it.  It only loads pages via http and https, but it can load any
content type. It supports GET and POST requests.

import urllib2
import cgi
import sys, os

# Designed to prevent Open Proxy type stuff.

allowedHosts = ['www.openlayers.org', 'openlayers.org',
'labs.metacarta.com', 'world.freemap.in',
'prototype.openmnnd.org', 'geo.openplans.org',
'sigma.openplans.org', 'demo.opengeo.org',
'www.openstreetmap.org', 'sample.azavea.com',
'v2.suite.opengeo.org', 'v-swe.uni-muenster.de:8080',
'vmap0.tiles.osgeo.org', 'www.openrouteservice.org',
'localhost', 'localhost:8080']

method = os.environ[REQUEST_METHOD]

if method == POST:
qs = os.environ[QUERY_STRING]
d = cgi.parse_qs(qs)
if d.has_key(url):
url = d[url][0]
else:
url = http://www.openlayers.org;
else:
fs = cgi.FieldStorage()
url = fs.getvalue('url', http://www.openlayers.org;)

try:
host = url.split(/)[2]
if allowedHosts and not host in allowedHosts:
print Status: 502 Bad Gateway
print Content-Type: text/plain
print
print This proxy does not allow you to access that location 
(%s). % (host,)

print
print os.environ

elif url.startswith(http://;) or url.startswith(https://;):

if method == POST:
length = int(os.environ[CONTENT_LENGTH])
headers = {Content-Type: os.environ[CONTENT_TYPE]}
body = sys.stdin.read(length)
r = urllib2.Request(url, body, headers)
y = urllib2.urlopen(r)
else:
y = urllib2.urlopen(url)

# print content type header
i = y.info()
if i.has_key(Content-Type):
print Content-Type: %s % (i[Content-Type])
else:
print Content-Type: text/plain
print

print y.read()

y.close()
else:
print Content-Type: text/plain
print
print Illegal request.

except Exception, E:
print Status: 500 Unexpected Error
print Content-Type: text/plain
print
print Some unexpected error occurred. Error text was:, E

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Re: [OT] OOpenlayer dudas generales

2012-05-05 Thread J.Alejandro Martinez Linares



El 04/05/12 18:31, Camaleón escribió:

El Fri, 04 May 2012 10:39:39 -0400, islanis escribió:


Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com  escribió:


El Fri, 04 May 2012 09:29:38 -0400, islanis escribió:


Alguien ha trabajado con openlayer tengo algunas dudas que quiero
aclarrar,mi gran dudaes como configurar el proxy.cgi en mi  servidor
web

Esto es lo que pone en su FAQ, a ver si te da alguna pista:

(...)


- How do I set up a ProxyHost?

An example proxy host script is available here:
trunk/openlayers/examples/ proxy.cgi

ya lo conseguí y lo puse en practica pero no funciona

¿Qué significa no funciona? ¿Has cargado la página y qué te aparece?
¿Has revisado los registros de error de Apache y qué te dicen?


For the standard Apache configuration, you would place proxy.cgi into
your /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ directory.

Once a proxy host script has been installed, you must then edit the
OpenLayers.ProxyHost variable to match that URL.

Given the above standard Apache configuration:

 OpenLayers.ProxyHost = /cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?url=;

If you have done something like this, you should be able to visit:

  http://YourDomain.example.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi

Esta es la parte que no entiendo , me parece que hay que tocar algunas
otras cosas, es que de entrada como lo estoy probando en mi misma pc lo
que pongo es

¿Qué es lo que pones? :-)


debo pensar entonces que localhost=YourDomain.example.com o como es?

Las instrucciones dan por hecho que tienes el Apache bien configurado y
por ende, que tienes un alias creado al directorio /cgi-bin por lo que
si este es tu caso tienes que poner tal y como indican, cargar la página
web y debería funcionar.

YourDomain.example.com tienes que sustituirlo -obviamente- por el
equipo donde tengas configurado el Apache, aunque seguramente te funcione
poniendo la ip local o localhost si lo ejecutas desde el mismo equipo
donde tienes el Apache (http://192.168.0.1/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi; o http://
localhost/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi).

Saludos,



hola gente tengo una duda que me gustaría me aclararan o me ayudaran 
porque ya llevo tiempo en ella y como no tengo internet pues no puedo 
chequear mas allá de
los ejemplos y manuales que tengo pero no me son suficiente aclaratorios 
y mas para alguien como yo que soy nuevo en esto de usar openlayers, que 
es lo que necesito?
primero que nada aclarar que tengo los siguientes servicios corriendo en 
mi propia maquina:

-geoserver con todas las capas que necesito ya en el.
-postgis
-postgres con todos los datos de las capas que fueron subidas a 
geoserver con postgis

necesito
1-con openlayers mostrar algunas de esas capas y que estas me brinden 
información que ya las tiene por postgres se que están ahí porque las he 
subido ya
y las he visto directamente desde las bases, pero con wgetfeatureinfo es 
un dolor de cabeza entenderlo por lo que pido ayuda.
2-sobre alguno de esos mapas quiero gestionar puntos pero al menos se 
que tengo que usar wfs-t pero
tampoco avanzo porque no tengo documentación que se pueda digerir por 
eso pido ayuda a ustedes.


gracias de antemano

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Integração SVN com AD

2012-05-05 Thread Christiano Liberato
Caros,

utilizo como software de SVN o svnmanager e preciso integrá-lo ao Active
Directory.
Alguém ja fez isso?
Andei pesquisando e parece que a integração é feita pelo apache... não
sei...

Valeu!!


Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 13:55:40 +0800, Long Wind wrote:

 it seems that experts are few

There are some X devels reading this list but they can be busy or simple 
is that they still have not read your message.

 I find vesa driver can work

Fine, but that's not a suitable driver to use for a GUI based system.

 anyway it's linux
 sometime i put up with this and that
 sometime i have to solve this or that problem on my own expert help
 isn't always freely available.

You sound like a haiku, sir.

 I'll leave the list

Oh, bye then!

 Please reply to longwind2...@gmail.com

Don't hold your breath...

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Re: Windows domain user in Linux

2012-05-05 Thread Daniel Koch
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Am 04.05.2012 18:05, schrieb Muhammad Yousuf Khan:
 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Daniel Koch 
 koch.daniel...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 04.05.2012 09:32, schrieb
 Muhammad Yousuf Khan:
 i am using winbind for samba to fetch users from windows
 domain. now i want to add a windows domain user
 administrator a member of group root. however when i run
 the command it gives me an error.
 
 #useradd -G root administrator useradd: user 'administrator' 
 already exists
 
 
 What about:
 
 # adduser administrator root
 
 
 wwwowww It worked Thanks mate :)
 
 can i ask a question , why it worked by adduser and why not
 useradd as both commands works for a same purpose AFAIK


  -G, --groups GROUPS   list of supplementary groups of the new
account ^^^

new account that is why : 'administrator' already exists

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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Long Wind longwind2...@gmail.com wrote:

 it seems that experts are few
 I find vesa driver can work
 anyway it's linux
 sometime i put up with this and that
 sometime i have to solve this or that problem on my own
 expert help isn't always freely available.
 I'll leave the list
 Please reply to longwind2...@gmail.com

What a wonderful attitude!


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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-05 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 09:24:28AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 05 May 2012 13:55:40 +0800, Long Wind wrote:
 
  it seems that experts are few
 
 There are some X devels reading this list but they can be busy or simple 
 is that they still have not read your message.
 
  I find vesa driver can work
 
 Fine, but that's not a suitable driver to use for a GUI based system.
 
  anyway it's linux
  sometime i put up with this and that
  sometime i have to solve this or that problem on my own expert help
  isn't always freely available.
 
 You sound like a haiku, sir.
 
  I'll leave the list
 
 Oh, bye then!
 
  Please reply to longwind2...@gmail.com
 
 Don't hold your breath...
 

Top o' the mornin' to ya!
Looking at his attached log, I see Longwind has a 
fairly elaborate config, and it gives a suggestion 
about udev. I was going to ask him for more info 
and suggest he rename his xorg.conf and try the automagic 
version to see what happens...

Anyway, he sure is impatient!
Hope he knows we don't refund support fees, and he 
may get hit with an early cancellation fee, too.
;)

Oh well, back to the morning tea ritual...

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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-05 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Fri, 04 May 2012 15:38:10 +, Camaleón wrote:

 On Fri, 04 May 2012 10:48:36 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 
 On Thu, 03 May 2012 20:27:02 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 There's some useful information in one of the links I sent before:
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins
 
 Maybe I miss something but the page doesn't say anything about cli
 tools of the megaraid cards :-?
 
 Yes... no info is also info after all. Not the one you'd like to read
 but that's how it is :-). Anyway, the page can be simply outdated or
 lacking from that specific information.
 
 Also, the expanded information on the megaraid_sas driver points to
 the page you sent before:
 
 http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/DebianPackages
 
 Where you can find a set of tools for your driver (megaclisas-status
 and megacli) as well as more information about the LSI controllers and
 the driver status:
 
 http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/LSIMegaRAIDSAS
 
 Ufff, I was not aware of this:
 
 ***
 There is currently no known opensource tool for theses cards. ***
 
 How, how bad... in contrast, 3ware seems to fully support open source,
 or at least that's what it can be read here:
 
 http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/3Ware
 
 ***
 3Ware supports Linux and provide an opensource kernel driver which has
 been part of Linux for ages
 ***
 
 This is something to reconsider.

Yes, this is really not what I wanted to read :-o

So I think I'll just go for the LSI card and use mdadm. The 3Ware card I 
found at my dealer was twice the price of the LSI...


snipped

 Just an additional note. By reading the chosen card specs it seems it
 does not support a RAID 6 level (which is better than RAID 5 because
 it allows the failure 2 disks) so that can be a handycap.
 
 This should be no problem. I plan to use four slots without raid for
 mythtv.
 I already have a 4x 1.5 TB disks raid 5 and another 4x 2 TB disks raid
 5. When I want to add more disks I can e.g. go for 3 TB disks and set 4
 of them up as another raid5.
 Like this I can use disks with different sizes.
 
 Just a note of caution here.
 
 RAID 5 with big hard disks can be a real pain and a real problem. If one
 of the arrays go down, the rebuilding operation can take up to days
 (depending on the controller's capacity) and if while the RAID is
 rebuilding a second disk of the array is also down for whatever reason
 (it can be a false possitive) you can't recover your data, at least not
 that easily. That's why most people is switching from raid 5 to raid 6,
 it adds an extra of security with no remarkable drawbacks.

That's true.

On the other hand it isn't possible to have different disk sizes in a 
raid 6 neither.
So my plan seems still reasonable to me to have several 4 disks raid 5 
arrays. Like that I'm flexible to add bigger disks in future as they 
become cheaper and still can keep my old 1.5 TB disks.
And if I would go for raid 6 with the 4 disk array I would loose a third 
of the capacity.


 I'm thinking of combining the arrays then to a lvm... But I don't know
 if this is a good idea as it adds more complexity :-?
 
 Yes, it will be a good idea (it will allow you to manage your volumes in
 a more flexible manner) and yes, it will add an extra layer of
 complexity (RAID+LVM) :-)

Ok, hope it won't be too complicated :-)


Best regards
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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 10:44:02 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 On Fri, 04 May 2012 15:38:10 +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/LSIMegaRAIDSAS
 
 Ufff, I was not aware of this:
 
 ***
 There is currently no known opensource tool for theses cards. 
 ***
 
 How, how bad... in contrast, 3ware seems to fully support open source,
 or at least that's what it can be read here:
 
 http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/3Ware
 
 ***
 3Ware supports Linux and provide an opensource kernel driver which has
 been part of Linux for ages
 ***
 
 This is something to reconsider.
 
 Yes, this is really not what I wanted to read :-o

It was also unknown to me... I thought this manufacturer was providing 
more support to linux other than having a bunch of binaries at their 
site :-/
 
 So I think I'll just go for the LSI card and use mdadm. The 3Ware card I
 found at my dealer was twice the price of the LSI...

Well, despite the card manufacturer does not provide an open source 
driver, you can still use the binary utilities built for Debian, 
available at the mentioned site. You can always reconsider moving to 
mdadm if something goes wrong or if you get into some trouble while 
setting up the hardware RAID card.

Still, my 0.2 cents go for a hardware raid :-)

 Just a note of caution here.
 
 RAID 5 with big hard disks can be a real pain and a real problem. If
 one of the arrays go down, the rebuilding operation can take up to
 days (depending on the controller's capacity) and if while the RAID
 is rebuilding a second disk of the array is also down for whatever
 reason (it can be a false possitive) you can't recover your data, at
 least not that easily. That's why most people is switching from raid 5
 to raid 6, it adds an extra of security with no remarkable drawbacks.
 
 That's true.
 
 On the other hand it isn't possible to have different disk sizes in a
 raid 6 neither.

I think yes, that you can, but only the lowest of the disk capacities 
will be used (this applies to all of the RAID levels). Software RAID has 
not such limitaion because you can mirror partitions, instead.

 So my plan seems still reasonable to me to have several 4 disks raid 5
 arrays. Like that I'm flexible to add bigger disks in future as they
 become cheaper and still can keep my old 1.5 TB disks. And if I would go
 for raid 6 with the 4 disk array I would loose a third of the capacity.

(...)

You've been warned :-)

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Re: Windows domain user in Linux

2012-05-05 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 04 May 2012 21:06:58 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 04 May 2012 12:32:31 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 i am using winbind for samba to fetch users from windows domain. now i
 want to add a windows domain user administrator a member of group
 root. however when i run the command it gives me an error.

 #useradd -G root administrator
 useradd: user 'administrator' already exists

 Is the user already in an external database?

 From man adduser:

 ***
 CAVEATS
 You may not add a user to a NIS or LDAP group. This must be performed
 on the corresponding server.

 Similarly, if the username already exists in an external user database
 such as NIS or LDAP, useradd will deny the user account creation
 request. ***

 In addition, if the user administrator already exists locally, you
 have to use usermod instead.

 Note: adding a user to the root's group can be dangerous.


 Thanks for the informative email, however administrator is me so thats
 the reason i added that.

 Yes, but that's still dangerous. Why do you need to be in root's group?


Because, there are few folders stored on samba storage where me as a
administrator need to write files very often.

so it seems easy to me that i have to just chmode 770 to the
folder/file  and things starts working accordingly.

by the way , what kind of security consequences you are talking about?

note : i am using this only for samba share

 Thanks any ways,

 You're welcome.

 Anyway, a quick note on your first one-liner: by re-reading man useradd
 I think you should use -g instead -G.

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Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
Hello,

In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use 
some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a 
virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications 
that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply, Accept...).

So to get the extra space, I run:

xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --fb 1024x768 --panning 1024x768

Which returns nothing (meaning a success command) and I can see the 
display has been somehow cutted at the bottom but I can't move the 
mouse cursor beyond the bottom edge so the controlable area is still 
1024x600.

I tried to make the window of a smaller height but I only could adjust 
its width which was of no help in this case.

I finally had to remotely connect from another system with bigger screen 
to configure the Pan settings from there but that's of course a bypass 
not a solution at all, n[eo]books are aimed to be standalone devices :-)

I know this is a well-known problem for these kind of small devices but I 
would like to find a solution or at least a suitable bypass that does not 
require a secondary system.

The computer runs Wheezy with GNOME and gnome-shell and the nebook screen 
is 10.1 with a 1024x600 resolution. It uses an Intel chipset (N10) as 
VGA.

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Re: Windows domain user in Linux

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:19:52 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the informative email, however administrator is me so thats
 the reason i added that.

 Yes, but that's still dangerous. Why do you need to be in root's group?


 Because, there are few folders stored on samba storage where me as a
 administrator need to write files very often.

Then you can adjust the share owner and permissions in a proper way.

 so it seems easy to me that i have to just chmode 770 to the folder/file
  and things starts working accordingly.

Easy, can be (I can't tell because I don't know the details of your samba/
shares layout). Secure, not.

 by the way , what kind of security consequences you are talking about?

An impersonated user that can access/read/delete your system files.

 note : i am using this only for samba share

More reasons to avoid exposing your system security.

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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 11:55:03AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 Hello,
 
 In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use 
 some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a 
 virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications 
 that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply, Accept...).
 
 So to get the extra space, I run:
 
 xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --fb 1024x768 --panning 1024x768
 
 Which returns nothing (meaning a success command) and I can see the 
 display has been somehow cutted at the bottom but I can't move the 
 mouse cursor beyond the bottom edge so the controlable area is still 
 1024x600.
 
 I tried to make the window of a smaller height but I only could adjust 
 its width which was of no help in this case.
 
 I finally had to remotely connect from another system with bigger screen 
 to configure the Pan settings from there but that's of course a bypass 
 not a solution at all, n[eo]books are aimed to be standalone devices :-)
 
 I know this is a well-known problem for these kind of small devices but I 
 would like to find a solution or at least a suitable bypass that does not 
 require a secondary system.
 
 The computer runs Wheezy with GNOME and gnome-shell and the nebook screen 
 is 10.1 with a 1024x600 resolution. It uses an Intel chipset (N10) as 
 VGA.
 

Why not change your screen res to match what's available (1024x600)?

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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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05.05.2012 14:55, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 Hello,
 
 In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely
 use some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying
 to get a virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some
 applications that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel,
 Apply, Accept...).
 
 So to get the extra space, I run:
 
 xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --fb 1024x768 --panning
 1024x768
 
 Which returns nothing (meaning a success command) and I can see the
  display has been somehow cutted at the bottom but I can't move
 the mouse cursor beyond the bottom edge so the controlable area is
 still 1024x600.
 
 I tried to make the window of a smaller height but I only could
 adjust its width which was of no help in this case.
 
 I finally had to remotely connect from another system with bigger
 screen to configure the Pan settings from there but that's of
 course a bypass not a solution at all, n[eo]books are aimed to be
 standalone devices :-)
 
 I know this is a well-known problem for these kind of small devices
 but I would like to find a solution or at least a suitable bypass
 that does not require a secondary system.
 
 The computer runs Wheezy with GNOME and gnome-shell and the nebook
 screen is 10.1 with a 1024x600 resolution. It uses an Intel
 chipset (N10) as VGA.
 
 Greetings,
 

 I used to have this same problem when my netbook ran Ubuntu*. I
enabled monitor indicator or icon from screen settings and rotated the
screen with it always when the bottom buttons went out of screen, but
this isn't very good way to do it.

*Nowadays it runs Linux Mint Debian Edition which has been aptitude
full-upgraded as Sid and I don't use any programs, which are too big.

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Re: Problem with Alsa and HDMI audio output

2012-05-05 Thread José Luis Segura Lucas
Yes, of course. The user belongs to audio group. If it doesn't, I won't
be able to play any audio using mplayer or the 3.5 jack output.

El 01/05/12 17:30, Shane Johnson escribió:
 Jose,
 Did you make sure your users are part of the audio group?

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Radeon HD 3470 dual monitors on Squeeze

2012-05-05 Thread Rob Owens
I've been trying to get dual monitors to work on my Squeeze system.
Originally I was using both the onboard video and an additional video
card.  Now I have two monitors hooked up to the same video card (thanks
to a cheap craigslist purchase).

When I begin booting, both monitors give me a display.  But when the
boot process gets to the point where text display changes (framebuffer
turning on?) one monitor goes blank and I cannot get it working again,
even when logged into a GUI.

Both monitors work properly with Knoppix 6.4.4.  I tried using the
Knoppix xorg.conf, but that did not work.  Here are some differences
between Squeeze and Knoppix:

Squeeze Knoppix
kernel: 2.6.32-52.6.37
xserver-xorg-video-radeon:  1:6.13.1-2  1:6.13.2-1
libdrm-radeon1: 2.4.23-0.0  2.4.23-1
radeontool: none1.6.1-1

I don't know if the above differences are important or not.  

Any ideas why one monitor always goes blank in Squeeze?

-Rob


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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 07:10:46 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

 On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 11:55:03AM +, Camaleón wrote:

 In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use
 some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a
 virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications
 that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply,
 Accept...).

(...)

 Why not change your screen res to match what's available (1024x600)?

You must be kidding, right?

If not, what's the gain you foresee for doing nothing? :-)

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Re: Radeon HD 3470 dual monitors on Squeeze

2012-05-05 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 09:05:35AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
 I've been trying to get dual monitors to work on my Squeeze system.
 Originally I was using both the onboard video and an additional video
 card.  Now I have two monitors hooked up to the same video card (thanks
 to a cheap craigslist purchase).
 
 When I begin booting, both monitors give me a display.  But when the
 boot process gets to the point where text display changes (framebuffer
 turning on?) one monitor goes blank and I cannot get it working again,
 even when logged into a GUI.
 
 Both monitors work properly with Knoppix 6.4.4.  I tried using the
 Knoppix xorg.conf, but that did not work.  Here are some differences
 between Squeeze and Knoppix:
 
   Squeeze Knoppix
 kernel:   2.6.32-52.6.37
 xserver-xorg-video-radeon:1:6.13.1-2  1:6.13.2-1
 libdrm-radeon1:   2.4.23-0.0  2.4.23-1
 radeontool:   none1.6.1-1
 
 I don't know if the above differences are important or not.  
 
 Any ideas why one monitor always goes blank in Squeeze?
 
 -Rob
 
 
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mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Sadly, MySQL workbench doesn't appear to be available as a Debian 
package, so I'm trying to build it from source.


Part way through the configure script, I get the error:
-
checking for CAIRO... configure: error: Package requirements (cairo = 
1.5.12 gl) were not met:


No package 'gl' found
-

I have libcairo2-dev installed.

Has anyone here any experience of building mySQL workbench?
Has anyone any suggestions for overcoming this problem?

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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 15:33:08 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 05.05.2012 14:55, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 
 In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use
 some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a
 virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications
 that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply,
 Accept...).

(...)

  I used to have this same problem when my netbook ran Ubuntu*. I
 enabled monitor indicator or icon from screen settings and rotated the
 screen with it always when the bottom buttons went out of screen, but
 this isn't very good way to do it.

(...)

Yup, I also tried with xrandr --output LVDS1 --rotate right -which 
works- but from there is very hard to direct the mouse to the right 
place, i.e., it's unmanageable.

P.S. Mika, kindly reconsider reducing the length of your signature.

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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 01:15:53PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 05 May 2012 07:10:46 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
 
  On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 11:55:03AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
  In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use
  some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a
  virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications
  that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply,
  Accept...).
 
 (...)
 
  Why not change your screen res to match what's available (1024x600)?
 
 You must be kidding, right?
 
 If not, what's the gain you foresee for doing nothing? :-)
 
 Greetings,
 

Well, right now I'm on a 1440x1050 monitor, so I use that 
resolution. Wouldn't dream of running something larger 
and then dealing with scrollbars to see the whole screen, 
it just seems a bit silly and I expect it would become tedious 
rather quickly.

But, everyone's got their own ideas I guess
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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Brian
On Sat 05 May 2012 at 11:55:03 +, Camaleón wrote:

 In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use 
 some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a 
 virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications 
 that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply, Accept...).
 
 So to get the extra space, I run:
 
 xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --fb 1024x768 --panning 1024x768
 
 Which returns nothing (meaning a success command) and I can see the 
 display has been somehow cutted at the bottom but I can't move the 
 mouse cursor beyond the bottom edge so the controlable area is still 
 1024x600.

The last time this came up on the List I had a play with --panning and
xrandr. The result you have got sounds similar to what I experienced.
You are not alone either:

   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39949


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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Adrian Fita
On 05/05/12 14:55, Camaleón wrote:
 In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use 
 some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a 
 virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications 
 that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply, Accept...).

[...]

Hi. This is a longshot, you might have tried this already, but anyway..

Have you tried holding the Alt key while Drag-and-Dropping from anywhere
in the window? That is you position the mouse cursor anywhere close to
the bottom of the window, then hold Alt, click, and while holding the
button clicked, move the mouse upwards. The window should move up and it
shouldn't get stuck at the top of the screen, the title and the upward
part of the window should get past the top of the screen making the
bottom along with the buttons visible so you can click on them. This
works on almost any window manager I have tried.

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Re: Radeon HD 3470 dual monitors on Squeeze

2012-05-05 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 08:18:18AM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
 On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 09:05:35AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
  I've been trying to get dual monitors to work on my Squeeze system.
  Originally I was using both the onboard video and an additional video
  card.  Now I have two monitors hooked up to the same video card (thanks
  to a cheap craigslist purchase).
  
  When I begin booting, both monitors give me a display.  But when the
  boot process gets to the point where text display changes (framebuffer
  turning on?) one monitor goes blank and I cannot get it working again,
  even when logged into a GUI.
  
  Both monitors work properly with Knoppix 6.4.4.  I tried using the
  Knoppix xorg.conf, but that did not work.  Here are some differences
  between Squeeze and Knoppix:
  
  Squeeze Knoppix
  kernel: 2.6.32-52.6.37
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon:  1:6.13.1-2  1:6.13.2-1
  libdrm-radeon1: 2.4.23-0.0  2.4.23-1
  radeontool: none1.6.1-1
  
  I don't know if the above differences are important or not.  
  
  Any ideas why one monitor always goes blank in Squeeze?
  
  -Rob
  
  
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 Have you tried xrandr?
 
Yes, but it didn't work.  The monitor actually gets no signal, so it
goes into power-save mode (whatever it's called).  xrandr knows that I
have two outputs on my video card, but I can't get a display on one of
them.

Also, it does not seem to be monitor-specific or output-specific.

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Re: Radeon HD 3470 dual monitors on Squeeze

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 09:05:35 -0400, Rob Owens wrote:

 I've been trying to get dual monitors to work on my Squeeze system.
 Originally I was using both the onboard video and an additional video
 card.  Now I have two monitors hooked up to the same video card (thanks
 to a cheap craigslist purchase).
 
 When I begin booting, both monitors give me a display.  But when the
 boot process gets to the point where text display changes (framebuffer
 turning on?) one monitor goes blank and I cannot get it working again,
 even when logged into a GUI.

I'd first try to use xrandr and see how it manages. This is the guide I 
use when I have to play with the tool:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#How_to_setup_a_dual_monitor

Debian X-patrol team :-) has a also a good guide:

http://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/howto/use-xrandr.html

Depending on the DE/WM you are using, you can also configure this from a 
GUI utility (at least both GNOME and KDE do have one).

 Both monitors work properly with Knoppix 6.4.4.  I tried using the
 Knoppix xorg.conf, but that did not work.  Here are some differences
 between Squeeze and Knoppix:
 
   Squeeze Knoppix
 kernel:   2.6.32-52.6.37
 xserver-xorg-video-radeon:1:6.13.1-2  1:6.13.2-1 
 libdrm-radeon1:   2.4.23-0.0  2.4.23-1 
 radeontool:   none1.6.1-1
 
 I don't know if the above differences are important or not.

Mmm, radeontool is an (sic) utility to control ATI Radeon backlight 
functions on laptops so I guess that having this installed or not won't 
make any difference.

 Any ideas why one monitor always goes blank in Squeeze?

If you want to use a static xorg.conf file, you can try to define a 
xinerama setup from there. First, ensure the xserver has loaded the 
extension correctly:

sm01@stt008:~$ grep -i xinerama /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA

And then try to add the required stanza... IIRC, I had to Google a bit to 
find a working configuration file for my dual-head nvidia card, but you 
can find many samples out there, for instance:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo#ATI

Hint: keep your xorg.conf file as small as possible.

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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 14:17:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 Sadly, MySQL workbench doesn't appear to be available as a Debian
 package, 

It is... since wheezy :-)

 so I'm trying to build it from source.

There's a deb file available upstream. Did you try with that?

 Part way through the configure script, I get the error:
 -
 checking for CAIRO... configure: error: Package requirements (cairo =
 1.5.12 gl) were not met:
 
 No package 'gl' found
 -
 
 I have libcairo2-dev installed.

(...)

It seems to be cairo that requires gl so check also for the existance 
of the libglib2.0-0 package.

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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 08:25:53 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

 On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 01:15:53PM +, Camaleón wrote:

  Why not change your screen res to match what's available (1024x600)?
 
 You must be kidding, right?
 
 If not, what's the gain you foresee for doing nothing? :-)
 
 
 
 Well, right now I'm on a 1440x1050 monitor, so I use that resolution.

And...? How that can be related to the problem?

 Wouldn't dream of running something larger and then dealing with
 scrollbars to see the whole screen, it just seems a bit silly and I
 expect it would become tedious rather quickly.

It does not work in that way.

 But, everyone's got their own ideas I guess :)

Errr, yes.

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Signatures (was: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks)

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:32:14 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 05.05.2012 16:22, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 P.S. Mika, kindly reconsider reducing the length of your signature.
 
 That is something what I need with.

(...)

Fine, fine.. but better if you trim your signature or use a different 
method to taught the users that don't disturb others.

I had to remove 33 lines of wasted text coming from your GPG code and 
your extra-large signature :-)

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Re: Signatures

2012-05-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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05.05.2012 17:10, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:32:14 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 05.05.2012 16:22, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 P.S. Mika, kindly reconsider reducing the length of your
 signature.
 
 That is something what I need with.
 
 (...)
 
 Fine, fine.. but better if you trim your signature or use a
 different method to taught the users that don't disturb others.
 
 I had to remove 33 lines of wasted text coming from your GPG code
 and your extra-large signature :-)
 
 Greetings,
 

I am currently working on this at
https://github.com/Mkaysi/mkaysi.github.com .

I am not a coder nor web developer so I got problems with line breaks,
but there are nice people at IRC and I got help and I was suggested to
write in markdown instead in case I don't like HTML.
http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/basics

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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 14:29:09 +0100, Brian wrote:

 On Sat 05 May 2012 at 11:55:03 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use
 some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a
 virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications
 that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply,
 Accept...).

(...)

 The last time this came up on the List I had a play with --panning and
 xrandr. The result you have got sounds similar to what I experienced.
 You are not alone either:
 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39949

Ouch :-(

That renders many of the GNOME programs completely unusable for devices 
with low resolutions (I can cope with an extended virtual desktop but if 
that neither works...). Hope the patch mentioned there comes soon to 
wheezy.

Thanks for the pointer.

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Re: Radeon HD 3470 dual monitors on Squeeze

2012-05-05 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 09:05:35AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
 I've been trying to get dual monitors to work on my Squeeze system.
 Originally I was using both the onboard video and an additional video
 card.  Now I have two monitors hooked up to the same video card (thanks
 to a cheap craigslist purchase).
 
 When I begin booting, both monitors give me a display.  But when the
 boot process gets to the point where text display changes (framebuffer
 turning on?) one monitor goes blank and I cannot get it working again,
 even when logged into a GUI.
 
 Both monitors work properly with Knoppix 6.4.4.  I tried using the
 Knoppix xorg.conf, but that did not work.  Here are some differences
 between Squeeze and Knoppix:
 
   Squeeze Knoppix
 kernel:   2.6.32-52.6.37
 xserver-xorg-video-radeon:1:6.13.1-2  1:6.13.2-1
 libdrm-radeon1:   2.4.23-0.0  2.4.23-1
 radeontool:   none1.6.1-1
 
 I don't know if the above differences are important or not.  
 
 Any ideas why one monitor always goes blank in Squeeze?
 
I just tried booting with a Debian Live CD (Squeeze) and got the same
behavior.  So at least I'm pretty sure that it's not something specific
to my own configuration / modifications.

-Rob


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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-05 15:58 +0200, Camaleón wrote:

 On Sat, 05 May 2012 14:17:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 Part way through the configure script, I get the error:
 -
 checking for CAIRO... configure: error: Package requirements (cairo =
 1.5.12 gl) were not met:
 
 No package 'gl' found
 -
 
 I have libcairo2-dev installed.

 (...)

 It seems to be cairo that requires gl so check also for the existance 
 of the libglib2.0-0 package.

FWIW, dpkg -S gl.pc tells me the missing file is in libgl1-mesa-dev.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:34:15 +0300, Adrian Fita wrote:

 On 05/05/12 14:55, Camaleón wrote:
 In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use
 some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a
 virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications
 that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply,
 Accept...).
 
 [...]
 
 Hi. This is a longshot, you might have tried this already, but anyway..
 
 Have you tried holding the Alt key while Drag-and-Dropping from anywhere
 in the window? That is you position the mouse cursor anywhere close to
 the bottom of the window, then hold Alt, click, and while holding the
 button clicked, move the mouse upwards. The window should move up and it
 shouldn't get stuck at the top of the screen, the title and the upward
 part of the window should get past the top of the screen making the
 bottom along with the buttons visible so you can click on them. This
 works on almost any window manager I have tried.

Yes, I tried... but despite it's not a normal window (like the ones 
with the title, minimize, maximize and close buttons that can be moved) 
this one remains static even when I press Alt+F7, I only can expand it 
horizontally -- → - but that's all.

Anyway, even for normal windows (those that can be freely moved along the 
screen) I can only put the window at the top but it stops (and goes no 
further) when the title bar reaches the edge top of the screen.

This situation is a bit frustrating and kinda ridiculous :-)

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Re: Signatures

2012-05-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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05.05.2012 17:13, Mika Suomalainen kirjoitti:
 05.05.2012 17:10, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:32:14 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 05.05.2012 16:22, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 P.S. Mika, kindly reconsider reducing the length of your 
 signature.
 
 That is something what I need with.
 
 (...)
 
 Fine, fine.. but better if you trim your signature or use a 
 different method to taught the users that don't disturb others.
 
 I had to remove 33 lines of wasted text coming from your GPG
 code and your extra-large signature :-)
 
 Greetings,
 
 
 I am currently working on this at 
 https://github.com/Mkaysi/mkaysi.github.com .
 
 I am not a coder nor web developer so I got problems with line
 breaks, but there are nice people at IRC and I got help and I was
 suggested to write in markdown instead in case I don't like HTML. 
 http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/basics
 

I love markdown :D.
http://mkaysi.github.com/Clearsigning.md
becomes
http://mkaysi.github.com/Clearsigning.html
just by running markdown Clearsigning.md  Clearsigning.html.

Does my signature look better now :)?


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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Tony van der Hoff

On 05/05/12 15:27, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2012-05-05 15:58 +0200, Camaleón wrote:


On Sat, 05 May 2012 14:17:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:


Part way through the configure script, I get the error:
-
checking for CAIRO... configure: error: Package requirements (cairo=
1.5.12 gl) were not met:

No package 'gl' found
-

I have libcairo2-dev installed.


(...)

It seems to be cairo that requires gl so check also for the existance
of the libglib2.0-0 package.


FWIW, dpkg -S gl.pc tells me the missing file is in libgl1-mesa-dev.

Cheers,
Sven



Wonderful, thank you Sven. That fixed it!

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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:27:58 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

 On 2012-05-05 15:58 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
 
 On Sat, 05 May 2012 14:17:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 Part way through the configure script, I get the error:
 -
 checking for CAIRO... configure: error: Package requirements (cairo =
 1.5.12 gl) were not met:
 
 No package 'gl' found
 -
 
 I have libcairo2-dev installed.

 (...)

 It seems to be cairo that requires gl so check also for the
 existance of the libglib2.0-0 package.
 
 FWIW, dpkg -S gl.pc tells me the missing file is in libgl1-mesa-dev.

Lucky you that can read between the lines ;-)

To be sincere, from the given error message I can't decipher what's the 
required file.

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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Tony van der Hoff

On 05/05/12 14:58, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 05 May 2012 14:17:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:


Sadly, MySQL workbench doesn't appear to be available as a Debian
package,


It is... since wheezy :-)


so I'm trying to build it from source.


There's a deb file available upstream. Did you try with that?

There's a Ubuntu deb. Did you mean that? I saw it, but I'm always a bit 
suspicious of 'buntu things! Will it work?



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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:09:10 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 On 05/05/12 14:58, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 05 May 2012 14:17:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 Sadly, MySQL workbench doesn't appear to be available as a Debian
 package,

 It is... since wheezy :-)

 so I'm trying to build it from source.

 There's a deb file available upstream. Did you try with that?

 There's a Ubuntu deb. Did you mean that? 

Yep, that one.

 I saw it, but I'm always a bit suspicious of 'buntu things! Will it
 work?

I have not tried but I can't see why not :-?

There can be missing package dependencies but nothing that cannot be 
solved by getting the required packages from the usual Debian 
repositories.

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Re: problem with video display in X

2012-05-05 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sat, 05 May 2012 12:10:02 +0200
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:

 What a wonderful attitude!

people will crack 
under the strain
even when 
they've got a brain
that tells them no
alternative
but get back in 
the game

not haiku free verse instead

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Re: Problem with Alsa and HDMI audio output

2012-05-05 Thread José Luis Segura Lucas
El 01/05/12 17:58, Ralf Mardorf escribió:
 PS:
 If you should insist in using Debian for audio, than test
 http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html . I don't recommend to use it, but
 for audio it's better than a clean Debian install, since for good
 reasons, it ships without pulse.

Hi troll! ;-)

I agree with you. The only reason I have to install Pulseaudio is that
Debian installed at the beginning of the times for me. It's a
dependency of Gnome, I think. I know some adventages of using Pulse (it
must be more flexible to configure... but I can argue that).

The Debian I'm tuning is only for HTPC usage. I want to run a standalone
XBMC and forget about the rest... but I can't configure the audio of XBMC.

I assume that configuring Alsa with a .asoundrc will be helpful, but the
point will be uninstalling the not-desired software (Gnome and Pulse,
for example) and keep the system as lightly as I can.

I hope that when I uninstall pulseaudio I will have more control about
my system's sound :-)

P.S. AVLinux looks great, but 32 bits??? It's sooo 2000's :-P

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Re: Signatures

2012-05-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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05.05.2012 18:31, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 On Sat, 05 May 2012 18:22:02 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 05.05.2012 17:56, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 Looks good but you don't have to give an explanation on the way
 you post your messages. If some asks, you can point him/her to
 that files but I don't see a needing for attaching such a
 detailed arguments on every e- mail you send :-)
 
 OK, so I will just use free SEO, which mailing lists give me with
 the help of Google bot until the next [OT: Posting styles] or
 similar discussion comes :).
 
 He, he... fine.
 
 But again, there are complaints and complaints, you have to
 find out what are constructive and well put and discard the ones
 coming from noisy people.

It's little hard, when noisy people means most of list.

 Line breaks? You mean the br / tag?
 
 I don't know, it's that thing which I get by pressing
 ENTER/RETURN or whatever you call it.
 
 Then yes, that's the br / tag, but I can't imagine what kind of
 problem you faced with this: you put a br / tag and you get a
 line break when you load the html page in a browser :-?
 
 Greetings,
 

I wrote the text in Vim (
https://github.com/Mkaysi/mkaysi.github.com/commit/1c5863796ce7e852a84b180b46588765324fd27a
),
git committed it and thought that it looks like same in browser as in
vim and was surprised to see that the whole thing became single line.

I think that I prefer to that markdown version.

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Re: Signatures

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 18:37:33 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 05.05.2012 18:31, Camaleón kirjoitti:

 OK, so I will just use free SEO, which mailing lists give me with the
 help of Google bot until the next [OT: Posting styles] or similar
 discussion comes :).
 
 He, he... fine.
 
 But again, there are complaints and complaints, you have to find
 out what are constructive and well put and discard the ones coming from
 noisy people.
 
 It's little hard, when noisy people means most of list.

That they're are most does not mean they're right (quantity does not 
make quality). You have to evaluate what they say and then put their 
claims in you to do list or move them to the bin :-)

 Then yes, that's the br / tag, but I can't imagine what kind of
 problem you faced with this: you put a br / tag and you get a line
 break when you load the html page in a browser :-?
 
 Greetings,
 
 
 I wrote the text in Vim (
 https://github.com/Mkaysi/mkaysi.github.com/commit/1c5863796ce7e852a84b180b46588765324fd27a
 ),
 git committed it and thought that it looks like same in browser as in
 vim and was surprised to see that the whole thing became single line.

Well, you omitted the paragraph p/p tag neither added line breaks br 
so you get a bunch of text, that's normal.

 I think that I prefer to that markdown version.

Learning the basics of html won't hurt and you'll find it's easy peasy and 
very peaceful.

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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread keith
On Sat, 5 May 2012 14:35:41 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I tried... but despite it's not a normal window (like the ones 
 with the title, minimize, maximize and close buttons that can be moved) 
 this one remains static even when I press Alt+F7, I only can expand it 
 horizontally -- → - but that's all.
 
 Anyway, even for normal windows (those that can be freely moved along the 
 screen) I can only put the window at the top but it stops (and goes no 
 further) when the title bar reaches the edge top of the screen.
 
 This situation is a bit frustrating and kinda ridiculous :-)

Any chance of 'tabbing' to the desired buttons.
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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 17:33:13 +0100, keith wrote:

 On Sat, 5 May 2012 14:35:41 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes, I tried... but despite it's not a normal window (like the ones
 with the title, minimize, maximize and close buttons that can be moved)
 this one remains static even when I press Alt+F7, I only can expand it
 horizontally -- → - but that's all.
 
 Anyway, even for normal windows (those that can be freely moved along
 the screen) I can only put the window at the top but it stops (and goes
 no further) when the title bar reaches the edge top of the screen.
 
 This situation is a bit frustrating and kinda ridiculous :-)
 
 Any chance of 'tabbing' to the desired buttons.

Yes, tab works until I get into a text area field where it stops (tab 
continues there but I feel like one of the Oatmeal faces going crazy¹, 
pressing the tab key but going nowhere...).

¹http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/543519_10151515981660078_220779885077_24217565_711032771_n.jpg

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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Tony van der Hoff

On 05/05/12 16:13, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:09:10 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:


On 05/05/12 14:58, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 05 May 2012 14:17:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:


Sadly, MySQL workbench doesn't appear to be available as a Debian
package,


It is... since wheezy :-)


so I'm trying to build it from source.


There's a deb file available upstream. Did you try with that?


There's a Ubuntu deb. Did you mean that?


Yep, that one.


I saw it, but I'm always a bit suspicious of 'buntu things! Will it
work?


I have not tried but I can't see why not :-?

Well, I tried. Dozens of missing dependencies. Since my source build 
works fine, I abandoned that idea ;)



There can be missing package dependencies but nothing that cannot be
solved by getting the required packages from the usual Debian
repositories.


... eventually.


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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 17:52:22 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 On 05/05/12 16:13, Camaleón wrote:

 There's a Ubuntu deb. Did you mean that?

 Yep, that one.

 I saw it, but I'm always a bit suspicious of 'buntu things! Will it
 work?

 I have not tried but I can't see why not :-?

 Well, I tried. Dozens of missing dependencies. Since my source build
 works fine, I abandoned that idea ;)

Fair decision. But I bet you also had to install a bunch of packages to 
get the compiled version working ;-)

 There can be missing package dependencies but nothing that cannot be
 solved by getting the required packages from the usual Debian
 repositories.
 
 ... eventually.

Well, you can have a sligthly idea of the needed packages by looking at 
the requirements for the wheezy's built binary file:

http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mysql-workbench

It's rather a long list :-)

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Re: Signatures

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-05-05 a las 12:43 -0400, Henning Follmann escribió:

 On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 03:57:22PM +, Camaleón wrote:
  On Sat, 05 May 2012 18:37:33 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 OMG, can you two get a room already?

I'm not sleepy, but thanks for taking care of my health. Sigh.

@Mika: these are the kind of posts I was referring to.

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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Tony van der Hoff

On 05/05/12 18:08, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 05 May 2012 17:52:22 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:


On 05/05/12 16:13, Camaleón wrote:



There's a Ubuntu deb. Did you mean that?


Yep, that one.


I saw it, but I'm always a bit suspicious of 'buntu things! Will it
work?


I have not tried but I can't see why not :-?


Well, I tried. Dozens of missing dependencies. Since my source build
works fine, I abandoned that idea ;)


Fair decision. But I bet you also had to install a bunch of packages to
get the compiled version working ;-)


Oh, yes! Which is partly the reason I didn't want to do it again!


There can be missing package dependencies but nothing that cannot be
solved by getting the required packages from the usual Debian
repositories.


... eventually.


Well, you can have a sligthly idea of the needed packages by looking at
the requirements for the wheezy's built binary file:

http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mysql-workbench

It's rather a long list :-)


Yeah, well, I guess I'll wait for wheezy to become stable.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers, Tony


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Re: Signatures

2012-05-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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05.05.2012 18:57, Camaleón kirjoitti:
 Learning the basics of html won't hurt and you'll find it's easy
 peasy and very peaceful.

I have that on my todo list :).

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Re: mySQL workbench

2012-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 May 2012 18:15:36 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 On 05/05/12 18:08, Camaleón wrote:

 Well, I tried. Dozens of missing dependencies. Since my source build
 works fine, I abandoned that idea ;)

 Fair decision. But I bet you also had to install a bunch of packages to
 get the compiled version working ;-)

 Oh, yes! Which is partly the reason I didn't want to do it again!

Understood :-)

 Well, you can have a sligthly idea of the needed packages by looking at
 the requirements for the wheezy's built binary file:

 http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mysql-workbench

 It's rather a long list :-)

 Yeah, well, I guess I'll wait for wheezy to become stable.
 
 Thanks for your help.

You're welcome.

I was curious about the .deb files available at MySQL site and these are 
the package requirements it has the 32-bits flavour:

Depends: libatk1.0-0 (= 1.12.4), libatkmm-1.6-1 (= 2.22.1), libc6 (= 
2.4), libcairo2 (= 1.7.2), libcairomm-1.0-1 (= 1.6.4), libctemplate0, 
libfontconfig1 (= 2.8.0), libfreetype6 (= 2.2.1), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1), 
libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (= 2.22.0), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libglib2.0-0 
(= 2.16.0), libglibmm-2.4-1c2a (= 2.28.0), libgnome-keyring0 (= 
2.22.2), libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.22.0), libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a (= 1:2.24.0), 
liblua5.1-0, libmysqlclient16 (= 5.1.21-1), libpango1.0-0 (= 1.18.0), 
libpangomm-1.4-1 (= 2.27.1), libpcre3 (= 8.10), libpython2.7 (= 2.7), 
libsigc++-2.0-0c2a (= 2.0.2), libsqlite3-0 (= 3.7.3), libstdc++6 (= 
4.5), libuuid1 (= 2.16), libx11-6, libxml2 (= 2.7.4), libzip1 (= 0.8), 
zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4), python-paramiko, python-pexpect, mysql-client, 
python-pysqlite2

Which matches 1:1 the requirements for the Debian compiled binary.

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check a file within a certain time

2012-05-05 Thread ron ramos
Hi All,

This is more of a general linux question. I would like to test if a
file if exists, and if the test does not respond in 5 seconds it'
considered failed.

reason for this is that i have web servers that has mounted nfs
volumes, but when the NFS server is high on load accessing the nfs
mount on the web servers seems slow.
the mount is not disconnected, it's just that there is a delay accessing it

so what i'd like to do is test a file in the nfs mount e.g.
/var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt if it was detected within 5 seconds it
is ok if not i will send me an email alert about it.
i was trying the read command: read -t 5 
/var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt  or cat /var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt
| read -t 5 but it does not give me anything.

any idea how this can be done? TIA.

Regards,
Ron


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Re: Problem with Alsa and HDMI audio output

2012-05-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 19:57 +0200, an unknown sender wrote:
 P.S. AVLinux looks great, but 32 bits??? It's sooo 2000's :-P

That's one drawback. There at least is one other drawback, it installs
and starts with Compiz and for Nvidia cards it installs nouveau by
default.


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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up: XFS info

2012-05-05 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, May 04, 2012 17:31:23, Camaleón wrote:
 On Fri, 04 May 2012 15:08:57 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
  On Monday, April 30, 2012 10:53:46, Camaleón wrote:
  On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:16:58 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
   Am Dienstag, 24. April 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
...
  The steps to actually fsck a XFS filesystem:
 - mount the XFS filesystem to replay the log
 - unmount the XFS filesystem that was just mounted
 - run xfs_check on the filesystem's device
 - if necessary run xfs_repair on the filesystem's device
 
 You mean you don't even notice a file system inconsistency until it
 royally crashes or even something worse? Oh.

Yes that's corret -- XFS does /not/ warn you at boot time (nor mount time) if 
the state of the filesystem is inconsistent.  YOU have to know to check that 
(or find out the hard way),  and if you use XFS for / you somehow need to 
know to do it from a LiveCD.  :-/  [This is rarely explained.]

  Note this means running 'xfs_check' is done when the filesystem is not
  mounted.  _Supposedly_ it can also be run if the filesystem is mounted
  read- only, but in practice I find it's best (and easier) to run the XFS
  commands from a LiveCD.  The xfs_check and xfs_repair operations are
  incredibly fast -- even for a 500GB filesystem it's usually only takes
  about 10 or 15 seconds. Speed is generally what XFS is good at, *except*
  when it comes to deletion of a large number of files -- that's where
  it's slow.
 
 So... is that you don't find it suitable for a standard / partition?

Hmm.  Having given that a thought -- yeah I think that would be a good idea 
and I might be happier using ext4 for / and keep using XFS for /home.  On my 
next reinstall of my laptop (whatever year that will be :-P) I might try that 
and see how I like it.

 I mean, if it's better don't analyze an XFS partition when is mounted
 read-only, that can be really a no-no for many installations running
 24/365.

Yes.  And in addition nounting a / XFS partition read-only to run xfs_repair 
on is fairly tricky.  Even when booting up into single-user mode it's still 
necessary to shut down several processes, which last I recall also includes 
the sshd daemon.  :-/

I'm currently using XFS for / on a remote server I have no physical access 
to, and I'm finding this is a problem because I don't have a good way of 
running xfs_check and xfs_repair on it while the system is running.  The 
hosting company supports remote KVM and bootup to a LiveCD of your choice, and 
I think this is basically what I'd have to resort to using if I wanted to run 
xfs_repair on / on that box.

  Also in practice I find that any kernel crash or hard-power-off corrupts
  XFS to at least some extent requiring an xfs_check and xfs_repair, so I
  have to make sure to keep a LiveCD on hand to be able to do this.
 
 I've also heard about terrific stories of data lose after an unexpected
 power failure on volumes running on XFS but as I said before, I have no
 direct experience with this file system so I can't comment.

I've experienced some data loss due to unclean shutdowns, so I can verify that 
that's possible.  I have not yet had any massive data loss, thankfully.

...
  The main reason I've been running XFS is for speed -- even on top of
  LUKS I'm finding XFS is able to do sustained 40MB/s transfers over 1Gb
  ethernet, where ext4 on the same box is not able to sustain that.
  However ext4 is more reliable and easier to deal with, because it's able
  to run an fsck at boot time and without neeting a LiveCD to fix it.  ;-)
 
 Not bad numbers.

BTW these numbers are with 1Gb ethernet /without/ using jumbo frames -- this 
is because the unmanaged switch I'm using doesn't support them.

 In the event I give XFS a whirl it will be over my /data partition,
 that's for sure... and fortunately all of my system have UPS units on
 behind O:-)

All of the systems I'm using XFS on have UPSes on them too -- yet I find 
systems I run go down hard once in a blue moon, so IMHO a UPS won't completely 
save you from needing to run xfs_check and xfs_repair occasionally.

  -- Chris

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Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-05 Thread David Baron
These are really getting annoying.

Is this a problem with the list server or what?


Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:
 These are really getting annoying.

 Is this a problem with the list server or what?

Messages with unidentified subjects?  Means someone sent the list mail
without a subject line.  Otherwise, you're going to need to be more
specific.


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MySQL seems to be running too slow; LONG

2012-05-05 Thread John W. Foster
I got this output from mysqltuner:
Any advice is appreciated: The main issues is that this db server
handles a Mediawiki database and when I upload files it takes way to
long to do its job likewise when serving up the data to produce the
webpages.
Output:

  General Statistics --
 [--] Skipped version check for MySQLTuner script
 [OK] Currently running supported MySQL version 5.1.61-0+squeeze1
 [OK] Operating on 64-bit architecture
 
  Storage Engine Statistics ---
 [--] Status: -Archive -BDB -Federated +InnoDB -ISAM -NDBCluster 
 [--] Data in MyISAM tables: 40M (Tables: 100)
 [--] Data in InnoDB tables: 764M (Tables: 71)
 [--] Data in MEMORY tables: 0B (Tables: 1)
 [!!] Total fragmented tables: 73
 
  Performance Metrics -
 [--] Up for: 5h 55m 13s (211K q [9.909 qps], 1K conn, TX: 3B, RX: 43M)
 [--] Reads / Writes: 96% / 4%
 [--] Total buffers: 343.0M global + 2.7M per thread (200 max threads)
 [OK] Maximum possible memory usage: 880.5M (22% of installed RAM)
 [OK] Slow queries: 0% (8/211K)
 [OK] Highest usage of available connections: 2% (4/200)
 [OK] Key buffer size / total MyISAM indexes: 20.0M/16.2M
 [OK] Key buffer hit rate: 100.0% (7M cached / 1K reads)
 [OK] Query cache efficiency: 50.1% (92K cached / 185K selects)
 [!!] Query cache prunes per day: 36659
 [!!] Sorts requiring temporary tables: 11% (11 temp sorts / 98 sorts)
 [!!] Temporary tables created on disk: 38% (2K on disk / 6K total)
 [OK] Thread cache hit rate: 99% (4 created / 1K connections)
 [!!] Table cache hit rate: 3% (128 open / 3K opened)
 [OK] Open file limit used: 1% (16/1K)
 [OK] Table locks acquired immediately: 99% (120K immediate / 120K locks)
 [!!] InnoDB data size / buffer pool: 764.0M/285.0M
 
  Recommendations -
 General recommendations:
 Run OPTIMIZE TABLE to defragment tables for better performance
 MySQL started within last 24 hours - recommendations may be inaccurate
 Enable the slow query log to troubleshoot bad queries
 When making adjustments, make tmp_table_size/max_heap_table_size equal
 Reduce your SELECT DISTINCT queries without LIMIT clauses
 Increase table_cache gradually to avoid file descriptor limits
 Variables to adjust:
 query_cache_size ( 16M)
 sort_buffer_size ( 1M)
 read_rnd_buffer_size ( 256K)
 tmp_table_size ( 20M)
 max_heap_table_size ( 20M)
 table_cache ( 128)
 innodb_buffer_pool_size (= 764M)

One curious thing I have noted is that the actual database has 3 kinds
of table structures: innodb, myisam,  memory;
also collation is mostly binary, but 3 tabls are latin1_swedish.



hardware is:

 Operating system
 Debian Linux 6.0
 Webmin version
 1.580
 Time on system
 Sat May 5 13:18:01 2012
 Kernel and CPU
 Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 on x86_64
 Processor information
 AMD Processor model unknown, 6
 cores
 System uptime
 6 hours, 02 minutes
 Running processes
 265
 CPU load averages
 0.53 (1 min) 0.60 (5 mins) 0.52 (15
 mins)
 CPU usage
 26% user, 2% kernel, 0% IO, 73%
 idle
 Real memory
 3.87 GB total, 2.13 GB used
 
 
 Virtual memory
 7.57 GB total, 16.61 MB used
 
 
 Local disk space
 909.45 GB total, 92.27 GB used
 
 
 Package updates
 All installed packages are up to
 date
 

I know I need to add more memory  will do so:
any other tips are appreciated.
Thanks frosty



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Re: check a file within a certain time

2012-05-05 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi Ron:

En fecha Sábado, 5 de Mayo de 2012, ron ramos escribió:
 Hi All,
 
 This is more of a general linux question. I would like to test if a
 file if exists, and if the test does not respond in 5 seconds it'
 considered failed.
 
 reason for this is that i have web servers that has mounted nfs
 volumes, but when the NFS server is high on load accessing the nfs
 mount on the web servers seems slow.

/usr/bin/time -f'%e' [ -e /mnt/mynfs/somefile ]

That will return the real time in seconds.

I'm using the absolute path '/usr/bin/time' because time is also a Bash built-
in; you'll need to install the time package if not already so.

It might happen that due to caching `[ -e /mnt/mynfs/somefile ]` returns fast 
even if the NFS mount point is clogged, reading a file might be better:

/usr/bin/time -f'%e' cat /mnt/mynfs/somefile  /dev/null

Cheers.


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Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 21:51 +0200, an unknown sender wrote:
 On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:
  These are really getting annoying.
 
  Is this a problem with the list server or what?
 
 Messages with unidentified subjects?  Means someone sent the list mail
 without a subject line.  Otherwise, you're going to need to be more
 specific.

No, the headers of the mails for the digest are at the bottom, they are
part of the mail body. Digest is broken at the moment.

Regards,
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Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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05.05.2012 22:23, Paul Johnson kirjoitti:
 On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il
 wrote:
 These are really getting annoying.
 
 Is this a problem with the list server or what?
 
 Messages with unidentified subjects?  Means someone sent the list
 mail without a subject line.  Otherwise, you're going to need to be
 more specific.
 
 

He means that that error comes when replying to digest, if  understood
the previous discussion earlier.

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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Han Soo Chang wrote:
  Probably the upstream problem was resolved and this was then allowed.
  When external influences cause success and failure outside of your
  carefully designed experiment it can cause a lot of confusion.

 I would like to think so, too.  But, unfortunately, the error is still
 reproducible.
 I purge the package flashplugin-nonfree, and try to install it.
 Then, I still get the same error.
 So, the interpretation becomes difficult.
 Of course, the server may be still having some problem. :-)

That is really strange.  I can purge the package and install it
repeated with no problems.  I do not see any errors from it.

If you are motivated the update-flashplugin-nonfree is a script and
may be viewed and debugged fairly easily.  It might take a little bit
of effort but it isn't too hard.  I start with something like this:

  sh -x /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin-nonfree --install 21 | tee /tmp/fp.out

Then I look through the output and the script side by side.

  You can test this.  Type in:
 
$ sudo id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
 
$ sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

 $ sudo id
 uid=0(root) gid=0(root) 所属グループ=0(root)

You are root with uid=0 and gid=0 so that is good and root won't have
any permission problems.

 $ sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
 /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin

That is an okay PATH.  The X11R6 part is typical for Squeeze but is
dropped in Wheezy.  It was used in the older X Window System.  All
okay.  I had asked about PATH since in Wheezy the sudo PATH
configuration changes and the change has caused some trouble with
missing directories.  The above is good.

 Well, it has been a quite instructive week for me.
 Thank you everyone.
 I now want to close this case.

Good luck!

Bob


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[Solved] Re: PlayOnLinux + wine + amd64

2012-05-05 Thread Brad Alexander
I found the problem, sort of. I ended up having to install from the
*actual* dvd. It failed on the dvd iso I made, it also died during the
download from battle.net. However, when I used the actual dvd, I got
it installed. Don't know why, but it worked.

Thanks,
--b

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Scott Ferguson
scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 05/05/12 00:11, Brad Alexander wrote:
 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Scott Ferguson
 scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 snipped

 I also just upgraded from wine-unstable 1.1.34 to 1.5.0, and the
 message has changed. Now I get

     [POL_Wine] Error: Wine seems to have crashed

     If your program is running, just ignore this message
     wine: cannot find LE:\\Installer.exe

 I have tried the system (1.5.0/amd64) and the one included with POL
 (1.3.17/x86), and both give me the above message.

 Thanks,
 --b

 Try putting the installer somewhere else?

 Occasionally I've been able to work around install problems with the /\
 \\ WINE/Windoof\UNIX slashes and double-slashes doing that.


 Try renaming the installer to all uppercase?

 Why is the owner of Installer.exe the dialout group?

 At this point I've only three ideas left:-
 ; try it with stable WINE and rule out a problem with Sid (this is not
 an uncommon game).
 ; WINE/CrossOver Office/PlayOnLinux forums/lists research and request
 ; install it in a VirtualBox machine and use that as a reference for
 WINE debugging.



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cron job not executing

2012-05-05 Thread Tony Baldwin
I've got a little cron job, 
just trying to fire off a script (see http://tonyb.us/mattbot )
and it's not firing.

I have other jobs on the same crontab that do.
When I run the script manually, it runs.

I've tried, in my user crontab
0 * * * * /path/to/script
or
@hourly /path/to/script
or
0 * * * * cd /path/to/ ./script
and even stuck a script in 
/etc/cron.hourl with
#!/bin/bash
cd /path/to/
./script

and none of these has made the script run.

I have another in my user script
05 2 * * * /path/to/another/script
and it works every morning at 2:05am, like clockwork,
so I can't figure why this new one isn't working.
Permissions on both scripts are the same, etc.

Now, I've also added a script to /usr/local/bin 
with the cd /path/to
./script

and tried to tell cron to run that script with
0 * * * /usr/local/bin/script
I'll have to wait another 35 min., now, to see if that works,
but I can't figure out for the life of me why none of the other methods
worked.

??

Probably something really obvious I'm overlooking, but the more I look,
the less I see why there's a problem.

any and all assistance appreciated in advance

./tony
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Re: how to stick with php5 5.3.x ?

2012-05-05 Thread Bob Proulx
J. Bakshi wrote:
 But apt still installs the 5.4 version of php not 5.3.

Install it by explicit version.

  apt-get install php5=5.3.3-7+squeeze8 php5-common=5.3.3-7+squeeze8
  ...

And so on for all of the php packages that you wish to install.  Make
sure they have the explicit version and you will get exactly that
version.

Bob


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netinst.iso - a learning experience- Part 1 grub

2012-05-05 Thread Richard Owlett

Why a learning experience?
'Cause when I've finished recovering, I'll know more ;/

The install went fairly smoothly until it set up Grub. I had 
opted for guided install using all free space. It correctly 
detected Windows and asked permission to write to boot 
partition. I accepted.


NOW, when system boots I have 2 choices - Debian and Debian 
in recovery mode.

a. Why?
b. Can I do anything at this point to allow choice to boot 
Windows?
[Not sure whether I have WinXP or Vista. Bought a used 
Thinkpad R61 explicitly to experiment. No critical files 
there but having a familiar OS would be very convenient. 
Worst case, I advance experiments with Wine. I have only one 
must have program which depends on a Windows environment and 
it is known to run well under Wine.]


TIA


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netinst.iso - a learning experience- Part (-1) Gparted Live

2012-05-05 Thread Richard Owlett
[strange subject line to bind temporally but not logically 
related questions ;]


I've been experimenting with Linux install - varying options 
of various distributions.
I shrank the Windows partition with Gparted Live without 
problem.
Did an unknown number of installs letting installer du 
jour use free space as it chose.
Between installs - deleted current Linux partition and 
went on with next experimental install.


At one point an install created 2 partitions in the 
contiguous free space. Prior to the next experimental 
install I 'deleted' both partitions.


Using Gparted, I could not find a way to create ONE 
partition using all the space of the TWO now 'deleted' 
partitions.


Were my expectations flawed?
Should Gparted have be capable of that?
A general partitioning question - where would I find 
comparative definitions of

  [Primary, Extended, and Logical] partitions?

TIA



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Re: cron job not executing

2012-05-05 Thread Adrian Fita
On 06/05/12 01:26, Tony Baldwin wrote:
 I've got a little cron job, 
 just trying to fire off a script (see http://tonyb.us/mattbot )
 and it's not firing.

[...]

 Probably something really obvious I'm overlooking, but the more I look,
 the less I see why there's a problem.
 
 any and all assistance appreciated in advance

Have you tried looking at the cron log to check and see if the script is
firing? You might have to enable the cron log if there is no log from
cron (check here: [1]).

  1. http://happy-coding.com/enable-crontab-logging-in-debian-linux/

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Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks

2012-05-05 Thread Jasper Noe

Hello,

In my intent to make my netbook more usable (because I can barely use
some applications such the recently available Pan), I'm trying to get a
virtual screen (panning) that allows me to configure some applications
that fail to display the usual bottom buttons (Cancel, Apply, Accept...).


Hi, Cameleon,

I used to play with the 'dots per inch' setting to make small screens 
look larger.


Translating back from dutch to english the button is here ( on 
squeeze/gnome ) :


menu -- system -- preferences -- appearence -- fonts -- details -- 
resolution !


HTH, --Jasper.


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How Does One Re-run write_cd_rules

2012-05-05 Thread Martin McCormick
This system started out as lenny in 2009 and I just upgraded
to squeeze. Most of the system is fine but I have lost both
CDROM's which used to be /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1. I
didn't help anything when I accidently left a usb drive
installed so it looks like the thing to do is clean out
/etc/udev/rules.d of 70-persistent-cd.rules and start over minus
the usb drive in the hopes that I can modify the rules to get
the CDROM's back.

There is a executable file in /lib/udev called write_cd_rules
but I can't seem to find what calls it or what $DEVPATH value it
needs to run properly.

Documentation as to how all this goes together is also
lacking. Google searches produce about ten-quadrillian hits of
which precisely one is relevant but described a similar
situation in fedora and the suggested fix didn't work, here, and
all the rest are just hits on copies of write_cd_rules and the
generator rules file that write_cd_rules uses when one runs it.

Is there a way to re-run it and produce new files that
can be used as a starting point?

Thanks for all constructive suggestions.


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Re: cron job not executing

2012-05-05 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.org wrote:
 I've got a little cron job,
 just trying to fire off a script (see http://tonyb.us/mattbot )
 and it's not firing.

 I have other jobs on the same crontab that do.
 When I run the script manually, it runs.

[...]

 Probably something really obvious I'm overlooking, but the more I look,
 the less I see why there's a problem.

In my experience with cron jobs it's either permissions or path.
Permissions you said are OK, so I'd put a PATH statement in your
script (I notice it has none), which includes a path to your script
and any programs it calls. Cron jobs operate with a very lean
environment, so the fact it works when you run it from the command
line is no guarantee it will run as a cron job.

Patrick


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Re: check a file within a certain time

2012-05-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 6 May 2012 01:55:24 +0800, ron wrote in message 
caaxo3xk9hoxqqsrgqh3awdvk2pfgzw+0tjjzarubcon5j8d...@mail.gmail.com:

 Hi All,
 
 This is more of a general linux question. I would like to test if a
 file if exists, and if the test does not respond in 5 seconds it'
 considered failed.

..you want to do a test within a deadline.  
The deadline is 5 seconds, and, 
you want to test if a file is existing.

 reason for this is that i have web servers that has mounted nfs
 volumes, but when the NFS server is high on load accessing the nfs
 mount on the web servers seems slow.
 the mount is not disconnected, it's just that there is a delay
 accessing it

..so, the test should be _read_ the file to verify it _is_ useful,
rather than test whether it was on a mounted disk before it died?

 so what i'd like to do is test a file in the nfs mount e.g.
 /var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt if it was detected within 5 seconds it
 is ok if not i will send me an email alert about it.
 i was trying the read command: read -t 5 
 /var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt  or cat /var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt
 | read -t 5 but it does not give me anything.
 
 any idea how this can be done? TIA.

..timeout -k 5 test  (chk man timeout)  
or until [timeout -k 5] ;do test ;done?
(I assume you know how to do your tests.)
Note that an until loop tests for the terminating 
condition at the _top_ of the loop.
http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/loops1.html

 Regards,
 Ron
 
 


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non-free Squeeze and sources.list

2012-05-05 Thread Martin McCormick
After upgrading from lenny to squeeze, an edgport 8-port RS-232
to usb adaptor died. A helpful error message said the driver
for this device in squeeze was in the non-free software. No
problem except I may have the wrong line in
/etc/apt/sources.list which would be the preferred way to get
it. So far, the closest I have come is a zip file that may or
may not have the correct firmware driver in it and it looks like one must
put it on removeable media and address it from sources.list that
way.

The line I do have in sources.list is:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze contrib non-free

This does not seem to get it. Is there a line in sources.list to
get firmware drivers?

Thank you.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ


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Re: non-free Squeeze and sources.list

2012-05-05 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Sunday 06 May 2012 05:39:24 Martin McCormick wrote:
 
   The line I do have in sources.list is:
 
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze contrib non-free
 
My idea:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free


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Re: Wheezy amd64 gnome - No sound (Solved)

2012-05-05 Thread BG

On 05/01/2012 07:46 PM, BG wrote:
For the first time ever I got a problem with my Debian system that I 
can't fix on my own. That says alot about Debian in general and I'd 
like to thank everyone involved.


Here's the rundown. Sorry if it's long winded. I updated about a month 
back and my sound stopped working. No problem, I hardly ever use it 
anyway; Probably fix itself with an update I'm thinking. That hasn't 
happened and so now I've finally invested the time to fix it. I didn't 
know anything about how the sound really worked, it's always just 
worked, so this has been a learning experience. The worst thing about 
this is that I don't know how it was working before - Was I using alsa 
or pulse? being the biggest question.


Here's what I do know:
Up to date Wheezy/Gnome on amd64
Dell Latitude D630 8GB Ram

lspci | grep audio:
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 02)


System SettingsSoundHardware:
Nothing listed and I'm guessing this could be a problem but nothing I 
do has an effect


System SettingsSoundOutput:
Dummy Output Stereo --- Even google don't know what this means

/var/log/syslog | grep alsa:
pulseaudio[2909]: [alsa-sink] alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device 
front:0: Device or resource busy


/var/log/syslog | grep pulse:
pulseaudio[2855]: [pulseaudio] sink-input.c: Failed to create sink 
input: sink is suspended.
pulseaudio[2998]: [pulseaudio] server-lookup.c: Unable to contact 
D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a 
dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11
pulseaudio[2998]: [pulseaudio] main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: 
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a 
dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11


Occasionally I get an error when trying to play something saying 
default device could not be found. Sometimes I get an error when 
trying to play something saying default device is busy.


I was getting an error stating that /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf 
may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it. This error 
actually yielded some promising results on google. There was problems 
back a few months but none of the solutions helped my problem and I 
seem to be the only fool having this problem recently.


My conclusion is it has something to do with Gnome but their 
documentation sux. This is reinforced by the fact that that annoying 
beep (or bark in my case) at login still works but that's the last 
sound the system makes. I have not tried to use an /etc/asound.conf as 
seen some places because the way I understand things is that the 
pulse-alsa.conf was supposed to replace that file and is no longer 
needed. Thank you in advance.



After reading numerous man pages, wiki's, forums, tutorials, 
/usr/share/doc/everything and finally posting here with no response I 
became frustrated and gave up. Then today I was looking at htop and 
realized there was 2 instances of pulseaudio running. I remembered 
reading somewhere that wasn't good. One of them was speech-dispatcher. I 
removed speech-dispatcher and look-mom; I got sound. Feel a little slow 
for not having noticed it sooner. I am going to blame it on information 
overload. I post back here simply to help someone else if they happen to 
be having the same problem. I am marking this solved even though I feel 
I should have changed a setting to make it all work together to truly 
call it solved.



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Re: Installing Wheezy on btrfs only (multi-device)

2012-05-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 01:24:59AM +0200, Steven Post wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I'm testing out a new system, the idea is to combine 6 hard drives into
 a single btrfs volume (raid10) (using subvolumes for /, /home, etc). I
 understand that it is now possible to also have /boot on btrfs
 (previously impossible because of GRUB).

I tried to install sysyem with much simpler configuration:
 / :  a single btrfs on a partition  /dev/sda1
swap: a single swap on a separate partition  /dev/sda2

It did not work due to missing fsck.btrfs in btrfs-tools.
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=668832
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=567681

 Unfortunately the Debian installer (daily build for wheezy) is unable to
 create multi-device btrfs volumes.

Yah.. but you probably can do this via shell screen.

 I tried the a normal install and then copy it over to a multi-device
 btrfs system, afterwards adding the remaining disk:
 1) using a single drive to install using ext4 for /boot and btrfs for /
 2) after (successful) installation boot from a live cd (ubuntu 12.04 in
 this case, but it shouldn't really matter)

How successful?  Did it boot?

 3) create partitions for btrfs on the other 5 drives using gdisk
 4) create a multi-device btrfs filesystem with those partitions, with a
 subvolume for the root filesystem and for /home
 5) copy all the data from the first disk to the new btrfs volume
 6) chroot into the rootfs of the new volume, after mounting (-o
 bind) /dev, /proc and /sys into the mounted system
 7) change fstab for the new drives and modify /etc/default/grub
 8) run update-grub: this is where things start falling down, I get an
 error about / not being mounted so grub fails.
 
 This is apparently caused by a regression in GRUB [1] (Debian bug
 #538118).

Well this is possibly another problem you are facing.  Basically, you
should know what file to change imanually when copying files from one
partition to another.  So this is really an expert trick which d-i
currently does not support for ordinry uses.  But as I mention in the
above, most simple installation suffer major breakage for btrfs on
wheezy even if you manually adjust configuration files.

 Has anyone attempted such an install before? How should I proceed with
 this?

Good luck.

 Kind regards,
 Steven
 
 [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538118



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Re: netinst.iso - a learning experience- Part 1 grub

2012-05-05 Thread Johan Grönqvist

2012-05-06 00:10, Richard Owlett skrev:

Why a learning experience?
'Cause when I've finished recovering, I'll know more ;/

NOW, when system boots I have 2 choices - Debian and Debian in recovery
mode.



b. Can I do anything at this point to allow choice to boot Windows?


I think I have seen similar behaviour after installation, and that it 
was fixed by running update-grub (as root) on the command line.


After an update-grub run, I again had a windows option.

/ johan




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Re: non-free Squeeze and sources.list

2012-05-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 6 May 2012 06:08:46 +0200, Thierry wrote in message 
201205060608.46970.tchate...@free.fr:

 On Sunday 06 May 2012 05:39:24 Martin McCormick wrote:
  
  The line I do have in sources.list is:
  
  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze contrib non-free
  
 My idea:
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free
 
 

..you also need main, so say:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

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Re: MoboRAID Boot Partitie

2012-05-05 Thread Mark Stunnenberg
Je hebt raid1 van een fake raid systeem van je moederboard. Ik zou om
te beginnen het gebruik hiervan al afraden. Gewoon op single discs
instellen zodat je linux installatie 2 discs ziet.

Dan in de debian installer gewoon zelf je mdraid configureren, grub
installatie is en moet dan gewoon mogelijk zijn op /dev/sda (vergeet
/dev/sdb niet ;-) en kan je direct in je systeem booten met raid1 setup.

Deze methode heb ik al tig keer toe gepast op systemen zonder enig probleem.

Sorry dat ik niet echt een antwoord op je vraag heb, dit is meer een
advies.. stap van die fake raid rommel en gebruik of echte hardware
raid, of mdraid setup in linux voor redundantie.

Hier staat een uitleg hoe je dat doet:
http://kb.haeringer.org/configuring-a-raid1-with-mdadm-on-debian-squeeze/
(Je kan natuurlijk de partitie indeling zelf bepalen)

Groeten,
Mark Stunnenberg

On 4-5-2012 20:47, lnx wrote:
 Hallo Debian-gebruikers,
 
 Heeft er iemand ervaring met het installeren van Debian 6.0.3 Squeeze
 op een RAID1 (de hardware RAID bevindt zich op het Motherboard) EN
 waarbij het boot mount point (/boot) zich op een apart aangemaakte
 boot-partitie (/dev/dm-2) bevindt.
 
 Waarom de 'EN' omschrijving?
 
 Omdat er volgens mijn inschatting twee problemen zijn m.a.w. had ik die
 aparte boot-partitie niet gemaakt dan had ik het karwei (mogelijk) nog
 plat gekregen maar nu lukt het niet meer.
 
 
 De installatie is gedaan met de optie dmraid=true en bij het installeren
 van de GRUB bootloader komt er de volgende error melding voorbij:
 
 Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda
 
 Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda failed
 
 This is a fatal error
 
 
 Tot zover geen probleem want het schijnt dat dit vaker voorkomt en de
 oplossing hiervoor is:
 
 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17t=62958#p364725
 
 en tot punt 6, waarbij het eerste commando grub-install /dev/dm-0 ALLEEN
 wordt uitgevoerd, gaat alles goed en bij het rebooten kom ik in GRUB
 terecht maar boot vervolgens, begrijpelijkerwijs, niet verder omdat
 grub-mkconfig nog niet gedaan is.
 
 
 Maar dan raak ik het noorden kwijt.
 
 
 Bij het opnieuw booten van de install DVD via de rescue mode wordt
 vervolgens het tweede commando grub-mkconfig  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
 ook gedaan maar vindt er geen goede configuratie plaats van grub.cfg
 m.a.w. de vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem wordt niet gevonden.
 
 Waarom niet?
 
 Blijkbaar is de aparte boot-partitie (/dev/dm-2) in dit stadium van
 booten nog niet gemount aan de /boot directory dus wat gedaan
 
 # mount /dev/dm-2 /boot
 # grub-mkconfig  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
 Generating grub.cfg ...
 Found background image: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png
 Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem
 Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem
 mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/os-prober/mount': No such file
 or directory
 mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/os-prober/mount': No such file
 or directory
 mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/os-prober/mount': No such file
 or directory
 mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/os-prober/mount': No such file
 or directory
 mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/os-prober/mount': No such file
 or directory
 mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/os-prober/mount': No such file
 or directory
 mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/os-prober/mount': No such file
 or directory
 done
 #
 
 Echter bij het rebooten kom ik wederom in GRUB terecht maar wordt er
 niet verder geboot wat nu NIET begrijpelijkerwijs is.
 
 De vraag is nu welke mogelijkheden er zijn opdat die aparte boot-
 partitie tijdig wordt gemount opdat er een correcte grub.cfg wordt
 aangemaakt?
 
 Het kan ook zijn dat het probleem ergens anders zit dus degene die het
 weet ..
 
 Bij voorbaat dank
 
 Fred
 


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Re: MoboRAID Boot Partitie

2012-05-05 Thread lnx
On 05/05/2012 07:05 PM, Mark Stunnenberg wrote:
 Je hebt raid1 van een fake raid systeem van je moederboard. Ik zou om
 te beginnen het gebruik hiervan al afraden. Gewoon op single discs
 instellen zodat je linux installatie 2 discs ziet.

Zoals je verderop ook al in je e-mail meldt is het inderdaad 'rommel' en
had dit al op verschillende forums gelezen maar de redenen om het toch
te gebruiken is om enige ervaring op te bouwen in het hele RAID ge-
beuren vandaar de keuze.

De achterliggende gedachte hierbij is om in de (nabij) toekomst een
eigen server met goede hardware RAID in beheer te kunnen hebben.

Dit moederbord bood de mogelijkheid dus waarom niet en op een 'oude
fiets' leer je tenslotte 'fietsen'...


 
 Dan in de debian installer gewoon zelf je mdraid configureren, grub
 installatie is en moet dan gewoon mogelijk zijn op /dev/sda (vergeet
 /dev/sdb niet ;-) en kan je direct in je systeem booten met raid1 setup.
 
 Deze methode heb ik al tig keer toe gepast op systemen zonder enig probleem.

Had hier ook van gelezen (software RAID) en dat het stukken beter was
als die MoboRAID maar dit is de volgende stap/experiment.


 
 Sorry dat ik niet echt een antwoord op je vraag heb, dit is meer een
 advies.. stap van die fake raid rommel en gebruik of echte hardware
 raid, of mdraid setup in linux voor redundantie.

Bedankt voor het advies en het is gelukkig geen kritisch systeem voor
een klant of zo gewoon een 'autodidact-systeem' om Linux/Debian onder de
knie te krijgen.


Was alleen nieuwsgierig waar het probleem eventueel zit en heb een
tijdje terug ergens gelezen dat GRUB-legacy de oplossing is voor
MoboRAID bij een Debian installatie en dat GRUB2 beter niet gebruikt kon
worden al werd me wel niet duidelijk waarom niet!


 
 Hier staat een uitleg hoe je dat doet:
 http://kb.haeringer.org/configuring-a-raid1-with-mdadm-on-debian-squeeze/
 (Je kan natuurlijk de partitie indeling zelf bepalen)

Bedankt.


 
 Groeten,

Insgelijk


 Mark Stunnenberg

Fred


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