[Résolu] Re: gnome terminal et encodoage par défaut

2012-10-06 Thread steve
Le 05-10-2012, à 16:47:23 +0200, Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net) a écrit :

 On 2012-10-05 15:58:51 +0200, steve wrote:
  Pas de .profile, ni de .Xdefaults ni de .Xresources. J'ai essayé de mettre
  
  export LANG=fr_CH.utf8 (ou .UTF-8, les deux semblent exister...)
  
  dans .bashrc, redémarré la session, mais toujours le même problème.
 
 Ce n'est pas forcément LANG qui importe.

Ok, mais c'est ce que j'avais compris de mes quelques lectures sur le sujet.

  et avec
  
  gsettings list-recursively | grep -i utf
  org.gnome.evolution.bogofilter utf8-for-spam-filter true
  org.gnome.system.locale region 'fr_CH.utf8'
  org.gnome.totem subtitle-encoding 'UTF-8'
  org.gnome.Epiphany.web default-encoding 'UTF-8'
  org.gnome.Epiphany keyword-search-url 'http://www.google.com/search ? 
  q=%sie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8'
  org.gnome.gedit.preferences.encodings auto-detected ['UTF-8', 'CURRENT', 
  'ISO-8859-15', 'UTF-16']
  
  Tout le système semble donc bien être en utf8.
 
 Non, ça ne dit rien de bien particulier.

Enfin, on voit quand même utf8 écrit un peu partout..., mais je suis d'accord 
que ma phrase était un poil péremptoire :)


  $locale -a
  C
  C.UTF-8
  fr_CH.utf8
  POSIX
 
 Que donnent les commandes suivantes?
 $ locale


LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=fr_CH.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=fr_CH.utf8
LC_TIME=fr_CH.utf8
LC_COLLATE=fr_CH.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=fr_CH.utf8
LC_MESSAGES=fr_CH.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=fr_CH.UTF-8
LC_NAME=fr_CH.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=fr_CH.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=fr_CH.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=fr_CH.utf8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=fr_CH.UTF-8
LC_ALL=


 $ locale charmap


UTF-8

 $ perl -e ''

rien


 (S'il y a des locales qui ne fonctionnent pas, perl va se plaindre.)
 
 Est-ce que UTF-8 fonctionne dans les autres terminaux?

Oui avec xterm (quoique après su, les caractères accentués ne sont pas
affichés). Mais UTF-8 fonctionne dans gnome-terminal. Je ne peux simplement pas
le mettre par défaut.  Dans Terminal - Set Character Encoding, j'ai le choix
entre 'Current Locale (ANSIX3.4-1968)' et 'Unicode (UTF-8)'. Si je choisi
Unicode, j'ai bien mon terminal en UTF-8 (vim, mutt, tout ça marche
correctement). Mais par défaut ce n'est pas le cas (bien que tout le reste du
système semble bel et bien en utf-8). J'ai aussi le choix 'Add or Remove' qui
ouvre une fenêtre des encodages disponibles et ceux montrés dans le menu. Je
peux en ajouter autant que je veux, mais je ne peux pas supprimer l'encodage
par défaut (ANSIX...) qui m'emm*rde.

 Il y a aussi toujours la possibilité de voir ce que donne strace
 avec gnome-terminal, notamment voir les fichiers qui sont lus.
 On a parfois des surprises!


Les surprises ne viennent pas forcément d'où on les attend. En essayant des
trucs sous un autre utilisateur, créé pour l'occasion, je me rends compte que
les menus de gnome-terminal sont en français, ce que je trouve bizarre sur le
moment. Et je comprends pour cela me semble bizarre, c'est parce que sous le
compte que j'utilise d'habitude, les menus sont en anglais (je ne sais pas
vraiment pourquoi, mais comme ça ne me dérange pas du tout pour travailler,
c'est quelque chose qui me passe complètement à côté). Je vais donc voir dans
les system settings de gnome-shell, et là bingo, dans l'onglet 'Language', je
vois Unspecified [ANSIX3.4-1968], mais impossible de mettre par défaut le
français. Ensuite je regarde dans l'onglet 'Utilisateur' et là surprise, la
langue par défaut pour mon compte et ANSIX3.4-1968, impossible de modifier non
plus. Je décide ensuite de voir si le problème persiste sous une autre session
et je choisis ldxe. Et là tout est en UTF-8. Il s'agit donc d'un problème avec
gnome. Je décide d'utiliser les grands moyens, à savoir une purge de tout ce
qui est gnome-*. Puis réinstallation des mêmes paquets, et là, tout est en
français et l'encodage par défaut de gnome-terminal est bien UTF-8. Problème
résolu. Malheureusement je n'ai pas trouvé où se situait exactement le
problème.

Merci à tous de m'avoir guidé dans la résolution de ce problème.

Bon week-end,
Steve

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souris récalcitrante

2012-10-06 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
bonjour,

j'ai une souris récalcitrante qui pose problême ...

en effet je n'ai plus de clic droit et j'essaye de trouver
un palliatif ...

tout est convenanblement configuré pour que ça marche.

qui aurait une solution de remplacement à l'aide de combinaison
de touches du clavier ?


slt
bernard

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Re: lecteur de cartes interne

2012-10-06 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:


 . . .
désolé mais c'est : lsusb
 . . .


   désolé aussi, mais j'ai renvoyé le Uspeed au fournisseur, car j'ai
   besoin d'une carte qui fonctionne sous Linux et Windows
   Je reviens à ma question initiale:
   Quelqu'un peut-il me citer au moins un modèle qui fonctionne
   sous Debian?

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Re: souris récalcitrante

2012-10-06 Thread moi-meme
Le Sat, 06 Oct 2012 08:50:01 +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

 qui aurait une solution de remplacement à l'aide de combinaison de
   touches du clavier ?

shift-alt(celui de gauche)-verr-num

ensuite les touches du pavé numérique.

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Re: souris récalcitrante

2012-10-06 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le 06 Oct 2012 07:12:34 GMT,
moi-meme chie...@free.fr a écrit :

 Le Sat, 06 Oct 2012 08:50:01 +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
 
  qui aurait une solution de remplacement à l'aide de combinaison de
  touches du clavier ?
 
 shift-alt(celui de gauche)-verr-num
 
 ensuite les touches du pavé numérique.
 
bonjour,

j'ai remplacé la souris et tout est rentré dans l'ordre...

slt
bernard

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Re: lecteur de cartes interne

2012-10-06 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:03:21 +0200 (CEST),
Pierre Frenkiel pierre.frenk...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
 
   . . .
  désolé mais c'est : lsusb
   . . .
 
 désolé aussi, mais j'ai renvoyé le Uspeed au fournisseur, car j'ai
 besoin d'une carte qui fonctionne sous Linux et Windows
 Je reviens à ma question initiale:
 Quelqu'un peut-il me citer au moins un modèle qui fonctionne
 sous Debian?
 
 Cordialement,

bonjour,

tous les lecteurs de carte externe USB fonctionnent

exemple de ref : TS-RDP8K (transcend)
illustration:
http://ec.transcendusa.com/images/item/TS-RDP8K_b0.jpg

bonne chance dans la suite

slt
bernard

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Re: lecteur de cartes interne

2012-10-06 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 6 Oct 2012, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:


tous les lecteurs de carte externe USB fonctionnent


   Je sais, j'en ai plusieurs!
   C'est très gentil de me répondre, mais j'ai l'impression que personne
   n'a lu le sujet de mon post:

   lecteur de cartes interne

   Ils se connectent en général sur du PCI-Express.
   Je ne pense pas que l'USB soit concerné (sauf bien sûr pour les combos
   qui ont à la fois des slots USB et des slots pour les différentes cartes)

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Re: souris récalcitrante

2012-10-06 Thread moi-meme
Le Sat, 06 Oct 2012 11:10:02 +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

 j'ai remplacé la souris et tout est rentré dans l'ordre...

ma solution c'était si tu n'en avais pas sous la main et en urgence :-))

Ta solution est plus efficace mais  plus chère.

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wheezy sdcard et ext2

2012-10-06 Thread Bruno

Bonjour,

Depuis un pc sous linux debian wheezy, je voudrai formater une carte µSD 
de 2 Go en ext2, (j'en ai besoin car cette carte est utilisé par un 
systeme linux embarqué qui utilise l'ext2)


depuis root je lance donc la commande suivante
#mkfs -T ext2 -L LinuxArmv5 /dev/sdc1

en réponse j'obtiens un warning qui me dit
le fs_type ext2 n'est pas défini dans mke2fsconf

Existe t'il une solution?

En attendant de vous lire, bon week end à tous.

Bruno

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Re: wheezy sdcard et ext2

2012-10-06 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:41:13 +0200
Bruno gasc.br...@free.fr wrote:

 Depuis un pc sous linux debian wheezy, je voudrai formater une
 carte µSD de 2 Go en ext2, (j'en ai besoin car cette carte est
 utilisé par un systeme linux embarqué qui utilise l'ext2)
 
 depuis root je lance donc la commande suivante
 #mkfs -T ext2 -L LinuxArmv5 /dev/sdc1

Déjà, le type par défaut de la Cde mkfs est ext2; après, mke2fs est
plutôt la Cde voulue; et pour terminer, /etc/mke2fs.conf ne contient
plus d'infos spécifiques à ext2 depuis longtemps puisqu'elles sont
incluses par l'appel de la Cde mke2fs.
L'appel d'un seul pgm par ses différents ptits noms a une énorme
importance...
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Re: Installation sur partition GPT

2012-10-06 Thread Eddy F.
Le jeudi 4 octobre 2012 10:53:51, didier gaumet a écrit :
 
 je serais toi, comme il s'agit d'un PC qui ne t'appartient pas, je
 toucherais le moins possible Windows 7; donc je laisserais à Bootmgr
 (le bootloader de Windows 7) le soin de démarrer le PC (si tu démarres
 directement à partir de Grub, certaines mises-à-jour Windows ne
 pourront pas s'effectuer).

Si ça c'est vrai, je suis sur le cul. Comment peut-on accepter que les
mises à jour dépendent de la façon dont l'OS est démarré ?

Attention, je ne mets pas en cause ce que tu dis. C'est juste que je
n'en reviens pas.

 - je crois que ton Windows 7 est installé sur un PC avec un
   partitionnement GPT avec mode de compatibilité partitionnement DOS/MBR
 - Dans windows, je commencerais par réduire D:
 - j'installerais Debian dans l'espace ainsi libéré et installerais Grub
   sur l'une des partitions nouvellement créées par Debian (il n'y a pas
   de partitions primaires/secondaires/étendues avec le GPT de l'UEFI)
 - pour démarrer Debian, dans Windows j'utiliserais Bcdedit (utilitaire
   en ligne de commande pour configurer Bootmgr) pour créer un
   chainloader vers Grub. tu trouveras sur le net et sur technet.com
   (site assistance technique Windows) comment faire tout ça.

C'est intéressant car je n'aurais pas pensé que Windows puisse faire
cela. Bon j'avoue ne rien connaître à Windows (pour moi c'est une
vraie boîte noire). 

Maintenant pour le principe : non. Je dois laisser Windows sur le
portable, c'est déjà pénible, mais rien ne m'oblige à m'en servir.
Alors utiliser Windows *pour installer Linux* : non. 
(Enfin, sauf si je n'arrive pas autrement. J'ai des principes mais je
ne suis pas borné.)

Évidemment cette position de principe de ma part n'enlève rien à la
qualité de ta proposition et je t'en remercie.

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Re: wheezy sdcard et ext2

2012-10-06 Thread Christophe
On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:41:13 +0200
Bruno gasc.br...@free.fr wrote:

 Bonjour,

Bonjour,

 Existe t'il une solution? 

je vais peut-être dire des ..nneries, mais il me semble qu'il n'y a
qu'une journalisation de différence entre ext2/ ext3, que l'on doit
pouvoir passer d'un ext3 à un ext2 (et réciproquement) à partir de tune2fs et 
que les
systèmes qui utilisent ext2 peuvent très bien s'accommoder d'un système
de fichier en ext3, ils ignorent le journal.
Donc créer ton systeme de fichier en ext3 est une solution.

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Re: Installation sur partition GPT

2012-10-06 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:13:02 +0200
Eddy F. edfnet-...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 
 Si ça c'est vrai, je suis sur le cul.

Ton orientation sexuelle ne nous regarde pas.

 Comment peut-on accepter que
 les mises à jour dépendent de la façon dont l'OS est démarré ?

En acceptant le cluf de w$ (tout au moins depuis la V.8).

 Attention, je ne mets pas en cause ce que tu dis. C'est juste que
 je n'en reviens pas.

Mais t'es même pas 'core parti!

 
 C'est intéressant car je n'aurais pas pensé que Windows puisse
 faire cela. Bon j'avoue ne rien connaître à Windows (pour moi
 c'est une vraie boîte noire). 

Imagine le pire, multiplie-le par 10, et tu auras une (faible) idée
de ce dont la mafia de Seattle est capable.
(just in case: le drv himem rejeté par w$ qd on utilisait DrDOS...)

 Maintenant pour le principe : non. Je dois laisser Windows sur le
 portable, c'est déjà pénible, mais rien ne m'oblige à m'en servir.
 Alors utiliser Windows *pour installer Linux* : non. 
 (Enfin, sauf si je n'arrive pas autrement. J'ai des principes mais
 je ne suis pas borné.)

Au pire, tu vires le HD d'ORG et tu le remplace par le tiens :)))
La liberté à moins de €100... ça me rappelle une histoire d'il-y-a
35 ans à propos d'une interprétation de la Baghdad Vita ;-)

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Re: wheezy sdcard et ext2

2012-10-06 Thread Bruno

Le 06/10/2012 18:00, Bruno a écrit :

Bonjour,

Depuis un pc sous linux debian wheezy, je voudrai formater une carte µSD
de 2 Go en ext2, (j'en ai besoin car cette carte est utilisé par un
systeme linux embarqué qui utilise l'ext2)

depuis root je lance donc la commande suivante
#mkfs -T ext2 -L LinuxArmv5 /dev/sdc1

en réponse j'obtiens un warning qui me dit
le fs_type ext2 n'est pas défini dans mke2fsconf

Existe t'il une solution?

En attendant de vous lire, bon week end à tous.

Bruno


En fait c'est le T majuscule qui pose problème, -t ext2 fonctionne.

Quel est la commande qui permet de connaitre les caractéristiques d'un 
système de fichier sous linux ?


A+

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Re: wheezy sdcard et ext2

2012-10-06 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:31:16 +0200
Bruno gasc.br...@free.fr wrote:

 
 QuelLE est la commande qui permet de connaitre les caractéristiques
 d'un système de fichier sous linux ?

fdisk -l

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Re: wheezy sdcard et ext2

2012-10-06 Thread Jean-Jacques Doti

Salut,

On 06/10/2012 17:41, Bruno wrote:

Bonjour,

Depuis un pc sous linux debian wheezy, je voudrai formater une carte 
µSD de 2 Go en ext2, (j'en ai besoin car cette carte est utilisé par 
un systeme linux embarqué qui utilise l'ext2)


depuis root je lance donc la commande suivante
#mkfs -T ext2 -L LinuxArmv5 /dev/sdc1

en réponse j'obtiens un warning qui me dit
le fs_type ext2 n'est pas défini dans mke2fsconf

Existe t'il une solution?


ben oui : refais la même commande mais en mettant -t ext2 (t en 
minuscule), ça devrait mieux passer...


A+
Jean-Jacques

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Re: Installation sur partition GPT

2012-10-06 Thread Eddy F.
Le samedi 6 octobre 2012 18:35:16, Bzzz a écrit :
 
 Au pire, tu vires le HD d'ORG et tu le remplace par le tiens :)))
 La liberté à moins de €100... ça me rappelle une histoire d'il-y-a
 35 ans à propos d'une interprétation de la Baghdad Vita ;-)
 
Ce serait trop simple : ce portable n'est pas pour moi !
A priori, je dois laisser le dual boot (pas seulement garder le disque
original dans un placard).

Bon, j'ai bien avancé dans mon installation (je n'y travaille pas à
temps plein). Je reviendrai donner un compte rendu plus tard car il
reste des détails à régler.

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Re: Installation sur partition GPT

2012-10-06 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:11:51 +0200
Eddy F. edfnet-...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Ce serait trop simple : ce portable n'est pas pour moi !
 A priori, je dois laisser le dual boot (pas seulement garder le
 disque original dans un placard).

Ben disons que tu peux garder le HD d'ORG dans un placard et le
remplacer par un HD BIOS boot avec un w$7
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Re: Installation sur partition GPT

2012-10-06 Thread Eddy F.
Bon, 

Après toute l'aide que j'ai reçue ici, il est normal que j'apporte un
petit retour.

J'ai finalement téléchargé l'iso debian-wheezy-amd64-efi-test4.iso
sur le site fourni par Anthony :
http://blog.einval.com/debian/CDs
(comme l'a fait remarqué Sylvain, ce n'est pas une image officielle
mais l'auteur est certainement digne de confiance).
Je l'ai placé sur clé usb via un cat ...  /dev/sdb

Au démarrage du portable, Esc pour arriver au choix du média à
démarrer. Contrairement à ce que j'avais lors de mes premiers essais
avec l'installateur officiel, j'ai maintenant deux entrées pour la clé
usb dont une fait explicitement référence à UEFI. Je choisis donc
celle-la.

L'installation se passe normalement. À l'étape du partitionnement, je
choisis la méthode manuelle et je retrouve à peu de chose près ce qui
était affiché lors de mes premiers essais avec l'installateur
officiel. Je crois qu'il y a une petite différence, le flag K qui est
maintenant présent sur la partition système uefi.

Petit doute, dans les caractéristiques de cette partiton, il n'est pas
indiqué qu'elle doit être montée dans /boot/efi. Dois-je l'indiquer
manuellement ? Bon je m'abstiens et fais confiance à l'installateur.
Il semble que j'ai eu raison.

Le reste de l'installation se passe sans problème.

Maintenant quand je démarre le portable sans intervenir, j'obtiens
bien une page grub (qui ne diffère pas sensiblement du grub2
classique). Le démarrage de Debian se fait sans problème.

Par contre, le démarrage de Windows échoue : « erreur : invalid EFI
file path. »

Apparemment, c'est un bug ; voir par exemple
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679817

Ce n'est pas catastrophique car il reste la
possibilité d'appuyer sur Esc au démarrage de la machine et de dire au
« bios » de démarrer Windows (dans ce cas, il démarre sans problème).

N'empêche, c'est moche.

La solution que j'ai alors employée est la suivante : 
1/ désactiver os-prober en ajoutant la ligne 
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true
   à la fin du fichier /etc/default/grub
2/ créer une entrée manuelle pour windows 7 en ajoutant les lignes
menuentry Windows 7 --class windows --class os {
set root='(hd0,gpt3)'
chainloader (${root})/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
}
   à la fin du fichier /etc/grub.d/40_custom
3/ update-grub

Et voilà. Non seulement grub est capable de démarrer le windows 7 mais
en plus j'ai pu constater que update-grub fonctionne bien aussi en
uefi et n'aurai donc pas trop de problème lors des maj du noyau.

Un grand merci à tout le monde.

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[testing] Gnome 3 et montage de CD

2012-10-06 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Bonjour,

Je rencontre un problème sous Gnome 3 avec les CD. Afin de flasher une mise à
jour j'ai gravé depuis Gnome 3 un iso sur un CD-RW. Jusque là tout va bien.
Mais une fois le BIOS flashé j'ai voulu effacé le CD-RW. Je l'ai donc remit
dans le graveur, j'ai un le son (sorte de clic clac) qui est émis quand un
média est détecté mais rien n'est apparu dans Nautilus. Je me suis dit que
comme c'était un CD pour flasher un bios il ne le reconnaissait peut-être pas.
J'ai donc lancé Brasero pour l'effacer mais celui-ci ne voyait pas non plus le
graveur. J'ai donc lancé Nero Linux (c'est pas libre je sais) qui lui voyait
bien mon graveur et m'a effacé le CR-RW sans histoire. 
Une fois effacé je l'ai remis dans le graveur et maintenant Gnome me le montre
bien.
Est-ce que quelqu'un a déjà rencontré ce comportement ?
Ça sent le bug, non ?

Gaëtan

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Re: ¿como se hace una busqueda avanzada con google?

2012-10-06 Thread Alberto Vicat

El 05/10/12 22:54, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta escribió:
la busqueda básica la realiza dandoles la misma prioridad a todas las 
palabras pero excluye de y para en es decir los conectores eso 
es obvio porque no aporta nada nuevo y son palabras muy comunes.


bueno, y si por ejemplo deseo buscar la palabras exacta ARDUINO Y 
PROYECTOS Y ELECTRÓNICA Y MÚSICA pero que no tenga precio ni 
venta ni coche ni barato y que tenga en segunda prioridad las 
palabras: 'brecha digital' o 'invento' y que no sea artículo de 
'wikipedia'


¿como le hago entender esa lógica a Google?


La verdad es que esto es medio antigüito:

http://www.google.com/advanced_search
http://www.google.com/advanced_image_search

Y debe haber algún otro.

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Re: ¿como se hace una busqueda avanzada con google?

2012-10-06 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Sat, 6 Oct 2012 01:54:38 +
Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta cespedes.zuleta.vic...@gmail.com escribió:

 la busqueda básica la realiza dandoles la misma prioridad a todas las
 palabras pero excluye de y para en es decir los conectores eso es
 obvio porque no aporta nada nuevo y son palabras muy comunes.
 
 bueno, y si por ejemplo deseo buscar la palabras exacta ARDUINO Y
 PROYECTOS Y ELECTRÓNICA Y MÚSICA pero que no tenga precio ni
 venta ni coche ni barato y que tenga en segunda prioridad las
 palabras: 'brecha digital' o 'invento' y que no sea artículo de 'wikipedia'
 
 ¿como le hago entender esa lógica a Google?

Empezando por aplicar la logica a tus envios. Que tiene que ver esto con debian?



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Re: ¿como se hace una busqueda avanzada con google?

2012-10-06 Thread Felix Perez
El día 6 de octubre de 2012 11:51, Angel Claudio Alvarez
an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:
 El Sat, 6 Oct 2012 01:54:38 +
 Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta cespedes.zuleta.vic...@gmail.com escribió:

 la busqueda básica la realiza dandoles la misma prioridad a todas las
 palabras pero excluye de y para en es decir los conectores eso es
 obvio porque no aporta nada nuevo y son palabras muy comunes.

 bueno, y si por ejemplo deseo buscar la palabras exacta ARDUINO Y
 PROYECTOS Y ELECTRÓNICA Y MÚSICA pero que no tenga precio ni
 venta ni coche ni barato y que tenga en segunda prioridad las
 palabras: 'brecha digital' o 'invento' y que no sea artículo de 'wikipedia'

 ¿como le hago entender esa lógica a Google?

 Empezando por aplicar la logica a tus envios. Que tiene que ver esto con 
 debian?




Mucho:  realiza las busquedas google utlizando iceweasel desde un
debian sid.   :-)

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Sobre bases clamav

2012-10-06 Thread cosme
Hola

Si he descargado main.cvd y daily.cvd

Que me falta para poder actualizar clamav desde una carpeta en mi PC donde
estan  main.cvd y daily.cvd

Salu2
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Re: como cambio el idioma de todo debian al español.

2012-10-06 Thread Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta
 no me funciono el tutorial.

 algún otro aporte de como traducir todo mi sistema operativo debian
 squeeze 6 al español.



Re: ¿como se hace una busqueda avanzada con google?

2012-10-06 Thread Ernest Sales
On ds, 2012-10-06 at 01:54 +, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta wrote:
 la busqueda básica la realiza dandoles la misma prioridad a todas las
 palabras pero excluye de y para en es decir los conectores eso
 es obvio porque no aporta nada nuevo y son palabras muy comunes.
 
 
 bueno, y si por ejemplo deseo buscar la palabras exacta ARDUINO Y
 PROYECTOS Y ELECTRÓNICA Y MÚSICA pero que no tenga precio ni
 venta ni coche ni barato y que tenga en segunda prioridad las
 palabras: 'brecha digital' o 'invento' y que no sea artículo de
 'wikipedia'
 
 
 ¿como le hago entender esa lógica a Google?

intext:arduino intext:proyectos intext:electronica intext:musica -precio
-venta -coche -barato brecha digital invento -site:wikipedia.org

https://sites.google.com/site/gwebsearcheducation/advanced-operators



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Re: como cambio el idioma de todo debian al español.

2012-10-06 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 01:19:03 +
Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta cespedes.zuleta.vic...@gmail.com wrote:

Localización de Debian al español

Si lo que quiere es, directamente, localizar su sistema Debian para que esté 
preparado para funcionar en español tan sólo tiene que seleccionar en la 
instalación el español como idioma preferente. De esta forma, el sistema 
quedará adaptado para esta localización y se instalarán los programas 
necesarios para dar soporte al idioma.

Si no ha hecho esta selección en el proceso de instalación deberá hacer lo 
siguiente:

instalar el paquete tasksel (posiblemente lo tenga ya instalado), ejecutar 
(como superusuario) tasksel y seleccione el Español (Spanish environment) de 
entre las tareas de Localización.
instalar el paquete localization-config (es posible que lo tenga instalado 
ya) y ejecute update-locale-config es_ES (para España, para otras 
localizaciones consulte la página de manual). 

Una vez hecho ésto se instalarán la mayoría de los paquetes útiles para 
hispanoparlantes y su sistema estará adaptado para usar el español.

Tenga en cuenta que localization-config modifica la configuración del sistema 
general para adaptarla al idioma escogido. Si no quiere modificar su sistema de 
forma global sino sólo el entorno de un usuario utilice el paquete language-env 
(y la aplicación set-language-env) 


Aqui mas informacion http://www.debian.org/international/Spanish


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2012-10-06 Thread Gökhan Öztürk
Gecen hafta debian açılırken çıkan yazıların nasıl kapatılacağını sormustum. 
Baska kaynaklardan araştırarak başardım şimdi bu yazıları kapatmak isteyen 
varsa anlatıyorum.

1- plymouth ve plymouth-themes-all paketleri kurulur. 

2- /etc/initramfs-tools/modules dosyasi acilarak aşağıdakilerden uygun olanı 
dosyanın sonuna eklenir.

  intel grafik işlemciler için;
  
    # KMS
    intel_agp
    drm
    i915 modeset=1
  
  nVidia grafik işlemciler için;
  
    # KMS
    drm
    nouveau modeset=1
    
  ATI grafik işlemciler için;
  
    # KMS
    drm
    radeon modeset=1
    
3- /etc/default/grub dosyasi acilarak;
    
    #GRUB_GFXMODE=640×480 satırının başındaki # işareti kaldırılır ve 
çözünürlük 1024x576 yapılır.
    
    (Ben 1024x576 yaptım siz istediğiniz çözünürlüğü yapabilirsiniz)
    
4- Yine /etc/default/grub dosyasi acilarak; 

    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet satırı GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet 
splash olarak düzeltilir.
    
5- Root olarak sudo update-grub2 ile grub güncellenir.

6- Yüklü olan plymouth temalarına bakmak için root olarak sudo 
/usr/sbin/plymouth-set-default-theme  -l komutu uygulanır.

7- Root olarak secmek istediğiniz tema sudo 
/usr/sbin/plymouth-set-default-theme tema_adi komutu ile seçilir.

   Not : Details temasını seçerseniz değişen birşey olmuyor.

8- Root olarak update-initramfs -u komutu ile initramfs güncellenir. 
Bilgisayar yeniden başlatılır.

Re: rtorrent on low_disk_space.

2012-10-06 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Artifex.


Thank You for Your time and answer.
You wrote:

 I think you need registration there.

I can not find the list! May, You know one?

  I have really low space but:
 
  1. rtorrent prelocates torrents - therefore, torrents can be and
  really are downloaded except this check that fight w/ in vain.

Here except this check that fight w/ should be read as except this
check that *I* fight w/ - missed I.

 What prelocate means? Preallocate disk space for torrent content?

rtorrent takes disk space before it actually fills it w/ torrent data.
I.e. torrent can be downloaded just 1% while on the disk it is located
for whole 100%. - So, though there is little free space remain, yet the
torrent can be successfully downloaded/uploaded already - but the
amazing (uncontrollable for me) check, prevents that to happen.

  3. I would like to manage it, nevertheless, for example, to put
  limit to 100 MB instead.
 
 Just change 500M to 100M. Or 1M if you like. But recommended not to
 set it too low because rtorrent checks with a specified interval and
 if your system fills your disk faster than free space within the
 interval your disk becomes full earlier than next check.

Yes, that I know, thank You. But the problem is that it does not work!
- Setting to any lower that 500 MB profits me nothing: it still regards
  500 MB limit (default one?) - so, it seems to me either it is a bug
  or rtorrent just ignores this my setting, though it gives me no
  error, and the other options that are in the same config. file are
  read and are in use as I may see.

So, question for now: can You test it? - Setting the above option to
something less than 500 MB and to use torrent w/ a partition (You may
make one w/ tmpfs, say 300-400 MB, just for the test) that has less than
that free space?

Thank You for Your desire to help!


Sthu.


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Re: rtorrent on low_disk_space.

2012-10-06 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Chris.


Thank You for Your time and answer.
You wrote:

   I have:
   schedule = low_diskspace,5,60,close_low_diskspace=10M
  
  Does it work for You - meaning if You have 11 MB free space - does
  it down load still?

 I was tight on space at one stage, and the default was no good for me,
 so I added that to my .rtorrent file which solved it.

Oh, great! I wonder why it does not work for me now...
 
   Examples on google.
  
  Which examples?!
 
 You need to sharpen your search skills, or do you want me to spend my
 time hunting them out? Hint: I found the above line by searching
 google.
 
So I did too, but what it profits me in case it does not work?! And
more positive search result. Of course I do not wait that You will
search for me, but to share Your experience You easily could if You
would - IMO.


Sthu.


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Re: retrieving a multi-media file

2012-10-06 Thread Chris Bannister
[Jude, not sure which part of the post you were responding to.]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 10:07:48PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 On Sat, 6 Oct 2012, Chris Bannister wrote:
  googling WARNING: Received FLV packet before play()! Ignoring.
  
  gets:
  http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/rtmpdump/2010-September/001151.html
  
  Following that I get:
  
  rtmpdump -V -r rtmp://lidc-rigel.lidc.sfu.ca/vod/ \
  -W http://www.lidc.sfu.ca/deps/video/player_5-4.swf; \
  -t rtmp://lidc-rigel.lidc.sfu.ca/vod/video \
  -p http://www.tlcentre.sfu.ca/archive/convocation/2012/; \
  -y mov:/2012-06_Convocation-PM_H.264_SD_f4v -o something.mov
  
  but something still seems amiss.

 Right, because those are actually directories.  Same thing happens
 with
 lynx.  After the click though in order to download anything you first
 have to log in.

I'm not sure if I'm understanding you here. Do you mean there is some
sort of authentication required?  Could you elaborate?

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Re: rtorrent on low_disk_space.

2012-10-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 01:04:34PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
 You wrote:
 
I have:
schedule = low_diskspace,5,60,close_low_diskspace=10M

  I was tight on space at one stage, and the default was no good for me,
  so I added that to my .rtorrent file which solved it.
 
 Oh, great! I wonder why it does not work for me now...

Is the line the same? Did you restart rtorrent?

Version difference. (Although I doubt that is the issue.)

tal% rtorrent -h
Rakshasa's BitTorrent client version 0.9.2.

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Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso

2012-10-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 07:03:11PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
 Hi Members,
 
 I just downloaded the Debian netinst.iso file called
 debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso. The file is only 191 MB because it
 installs the most basic Debian system. I then acquire the rest via the
 internet.

Yep, that is what the netinst is for. :)

 I will be installing Debian to a freshly wiped-clean hard drive. No
 other OS will be present on the hard drive. Not a Dual boot (in this
 case). I do have windows loaded on a separate hard drive but I will
 remove this drive and install the Debian drive when I choose to work
 with the Debian OS.

Debian will coexist with other OS's whereas Windows is a selfish OS and
wants everything for itself.

I would ditch Windows completely unless you know you need it because
you have proprietry software. Although nowadays there is usually a Linux
alternative. More importantly, is hardware support; make sure Linux will
work with your hardware.

I would grab a LiveCD and check the hardware works. At least you can get
a listing (lspci, et al) for further checks.

 I understand I can load a dual boot using two separate drives as I
 found instructions here that describe the set-up:
 http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/

Yeah, just be aware of the Disk UUID and also where you stick the MBR.

 But unless someone can kindly convince me otherwise, I simply prefer
 to keep both OS's from ever knowing each other. I hope this method
 does not cause BIOS or firmware issues.

The hardware may require firmware regardless. That is why I suggest you
get a listing of your hardware, then you can find out if firmware is
required.

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Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso

2012-10-06 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Oct 2012 at 19:03:11 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:

 I just downloaded the Debian netinst.iso file called
 debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso. The file is only 191 MB because it
 installs the most basic Debian system. I then acquire the rest via the
 internet.
 
 I was reading the install instructions here:
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/
 
 This is extremely detailed and certainly very helpful. However since I
 only have one CD to install, can I simply load the install CD and
 follow on the on-screen installation walk-thru that includes setting
 up the partitions (similar to Ubuntu's installer) or will I be
 expecting something completely different? Just would like to know
 what's headed my way before loading the CD.

You will have a good idea what to expect after reading Chapter 6 of the
guide. You will also have prepared for the possible need for firmware by
unzipping the file you get from

   http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/

to a USB stick after reading Section 2.2.

You might want to take up the offer at the partitioning stage of doing
it manually. One large partition and a GB or two of swap space would
suit many people.
 
 I will be installing Debian to a freshly wiped-clean hard drive. No
 other OS will be present on the hard drive. Not a Dual boot (in this
 case). I do have windows loaded on a separate hard drive but I will
 remove this drive and install the Debian drive when I choose to work
 with the Debian OS.

In this situation installing GRUB to the MBR of the drive should go very
smoothly.

 I understand I can load a dual boot using two separate drives as I
 found instructions here that describe the set-up:
 http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/
 
 But unless someone can kindly convince me otherwise, I simply prefer
 to keep both OS's from ever knowing each other. I hope this method
 does not cause BIOS or firmware issues.

Not a problem. Just do it.


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Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso

2012-10-06 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 06 October 2012 10:46:04 Brian wrote:
 On Fri 05 Oct 2012 at 19:03:11 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
  I just downloaded the Debian netinst.iso file called
  debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso. The file is only 191 MB because it
  installs the most basic Debian system. I then acquire the rest via the
  internet.
 
  I was reading the install instructions here:
  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/
 
  This is extremely detailed and certainly very helpful. However since I
  only have one CD to install, can I simply load the install CD and
  follow on the on-screen installation walk-thru that includes setting
  up the partitions (similar to Ubuntu's installer) or will I be
  expecting something completely different? Just would like to know
  what's headed my way before loading the CD.

 You will have a good idea what to expect after reading Chapter 6 of the
 guide. You will also have prepared for the possible need for firmware by
 unzipping the file you get from

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/

 to a USB stick after reading Section 2.2.

 You might want to take up the offer at the partitioning stage of doing
 it manually. One large partition and a GB or two of swap space would
 suit many people.

  I will be installing Debian to a freshly wiped-clean hard drive. No
  other OS will be present on the hard drive. Not a Dual boot (in this
  case). I do have windows loaded on a separate hard drive but I will
  remove this drive and install the Debian drive when I choose to work
  with the Debian OS.

 In this situation installing GRUB to the MBR of the drive should go very
 smoothly.

  I understand I can load a dual boot using two separate drives as I
  found instructions here that describe the set-up:
  http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7
 -on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/
 
  But unless someone can kindly convince me otherwise, I simply prefer
  to keep both OS's from ever knowing each other. I hope this method
  does not cause BIOS or firmware issues.

I have in the past set up a system on which I dual-booted by having Windows on 
one HDD and Linux on another. I then switched between them by changing the 
boot order in the BIOS.  Easier and quicker than moving disks around.

I solve the problem now by not having Windows!

Lisi


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Re: apache2's handling of IP version 6

2012-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
 On 10/4/2012 12:06 PM, Tom H wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
 On 10/4/2012 3:46 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
 On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Satoru Otsubo wrote:


 But the phenomena are same, that is,
 When booting my PC, apache2 failed to start.
 And when I executed the following:
 # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
 apache2 started successfully with the dual stack.

 Why this phenomena happens ?

 Is the apache2 daemon starting before the ipv6 part of the network
 configuration is completely up?

 His log error does seem to indicate Apache is starting before the ipv6
 stack is available--one of the downsides of parallel init.

 Where did you see the log?

 The OP pasted this in his 2nd post:

 Starting web server: apache2[Thu Oct 04 01:02:03 2012]: [crit] (EAI
 9)Address family for hostname not supported: Alloc_listener: failed to
 set up sockaddr for :::
 Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/ports.conf
 Listen setup failed.
 Action 'start' failed.
 The Apache error log may have more information.
 failed!

Thanks. I'd checked the archive before emailing you and missed it -
for the second time!


 I think Chris Bannister is onto something. I previously overlooked the
 syntax error msg. A syntax error would explain the socket setup
 failure. Probably something as simple as a typo in ports.conf.

I don't understand why there's a syntax error at boot but not when
apache's restarted but we'll see...

As I pointed out in an earlier post, Listen 80 will enable both ipv4
and ipv6, and remove the possibility that there's a typo in the ip
address(es). Since Debian (and all distributions that I know) compile
apache with an option to map v4 to v6, running ss -ntl will show
just one ipv6 socket.

Maybe having both Listen *:80 and Listen [::]:80 will create two
sockets, if that's what the OP's after (or one of the things that he's
after). I can't check because I don't have ipv6 and I'm not sure that
apache'll interact the same way with an ipv6 link-local address as it
would with a real ipv6 address.


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Re: apache2's handling of IP version 6

2012-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Satoru Otsubo trn...@otip.jp wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 04:53:23AM +0900, Satoru Otsubo wrote:


 By the way, I thought the following concerning the problem in my CGI PC (my 
 server PC):

 Internet-Router--Lan-my PC

 When booting PC, apache2 decides that ipv6 is Ok if it gets the ipv6's 
 information
 and ipv6 is not Ok if it can't get the ipv6's information.
 And apache2 gets the ipv6's information from the router's RA(Router 
 Advertisements).

That explains the at-boot v/s after-restart behavior...

Can be started later, based on a sysvinit stage like $network, etc.

Does ipv6 come up cleanly if you do a soft or hard restart of apache
in rc.local?


 Then after booting completed, I executed,
 # netstat -an
 And I found there exists Listen 80 and Listen 443 in the tcp6 lines.

 My thought is wrong ?

 By the way, on the PC of Squeeze desktop install (my second PC),
 After booting completed, on command of
 # netstat -an ,
 I can always find Listen 80 and Listen 443 in the tcp6 lines.
 (Without # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart)

It's normal; apache listens on the ipv6 socket for both ipv4 and ipv6.


 In fact, I found,
 /etc/hosts of my GUI PC includes
 # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
 ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
 fe00::0 ip6-localnet
 ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
 ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
 ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
 ff02::3 ip6-allhosts

 whereas, /etc/hosts of my CUI PC only includes
 # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
 ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
 fe00::0 ip6-localnet
 ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
 ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
 ff02::2 ip6-allrouters

All that you really need for ipv6 is the ::1 ... line. Having one
line less on your X-less box won't make a difference.

Is this your entire /etc/hosts? Don;t you have any ipv4 settings?!


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Re: dynamic IP assignment on servers = brain damage

2012-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:

 This thread reinforces what experienced server admins round the world
 have known forever:

 DO NOT USE dynamic network address assignment on servers.

 The problem in this thread is but one of many that can/will result from
 using dynamic IP assignment with servers.  If the OP had mentioned his
 use of dynamic IP up front he would have saved himself, and the rest of
 us, much time.

I've had to deal with VPS instances using what I call (in between my
ears!) semi-static ip settings: static but dynamically-assigned ip
addresses. The box gets an ip address via dhcp but it's always the
same, (I assume) based on the NIC's MAC address.


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Re: Current user friendly documentation of Debian repository structure and use???

2012-10-06 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote:
 songbird wrote:
...
if anything just try to copy the first dvd and
 see what happens and what error messages come
 out of apt-get or synaptic and go from there.

ls /dvd01 if you have the first dvd mounted
 to /dvd01 should give you the top directories
 and then you can look further down in from
 there to see how it looks.


 i've suspected as much  *LOL* ;/

  :)

  it may not be the right way in terms of
disk inode use but it worked.  nowadays
it might be better to do a straight image
copy and then to mount them, but it would
take someone else to give you those magic
words.


 For the record
- I'm contemporary of parents of Linus Torvalds

  i'm no spring chicken either...  50 is soon.
eek.  time flies.


- I've been tempted to ask
   if Debian (any version) is more powerful/versatile 
 than CPM-80
   Which has more obtuse documentation, CPM-80 or Debian

  the package debian-handbook is very helpful.  also,
debian-reference-en, debian-faq and installation-guide-*...

  reading the lists linux.debian.devel, 
linux.debian.devel.release and linux.debian.project 
can be helpful at times.  i try to read 
linux.debian.maint.boot too and of course this fine 
group.


 I've set Reply To to debian-user@lists.debian.org
 For those wising to discuss issues personally, my From: 
 address is valid, if well filtered ;)

  i have very little trouble with spam coming from
usenet posts.  ignoring it and deleting it unread.
i never use an unsubscribe link as it tells them 
they hit a live one.


  songbird


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Re: dynamic IP assignment on servers = brain damage

2012-10-06 Thread Miles Fidelman

Tom H wrote:

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:

This thread reinforces what experienced server admins round the world
have known forever:

DO NOT USE dynamic network address assignment on servers.

The problem in this thread is but one of many that can/will result from
using dynamic IP assignment with servers.  If the OP had mentioned his
use of dynamic IP up front he would have saved himself, and the rest of
us, much time.

I've had to deal with VPS instances using what I call (in between my
ears!) semi-static ip settings: static but dynamically-assigned ip
addresses. The box gets an ip address via dhcp but it's always the
same, (I assume) based on the NIC's MAC address.



Which also comes up if one is net booting - the server has to pick up 
its IP address from the boot server, based on its MAC address.




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In practice, there is.    Yogi Berra


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Installation problem on Dell Latitude D810

2012-10-06 Thread Cesar Enrique Garcia Dabo


 Hi,

 I am trying to install Debian 6.0 on a rather old laptop Latitude D810. 
However it hangs when detecting network hardware using the graphical 
installer.
 On the same machine I was able to boot Fedora 17 without problems.
 I have tried also connecting an ethernet cable but it also hangs.
  The kernel messages on the same machine using kernel 3.5.3 from F17 are:

[   16.608061] tg3.c:v3.123 (March 21, 2012)
[   16.617814] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95751) rev 4001] (PCI 
Express) MAC address 00:14:22:e2:2d:9a
[   16.617825] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: attached PHY is 5750 (10/100/1000Base-T 
Ethernet) (WireSpeed[1], EEE[0])
[   16.617834] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] 
ASF[0] TSOcap[1]
[   16.617842] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: dma_rwctrl[7618] dma_mask[64-bit]
...
[   17.285950] ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 
1.2.2kmprq
[   17.285957] ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
[   17.286183] ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection

 I am using image debian-wheezy-DI-b1-i386-netinst.iso.
 
 Do you know any way to install it on this laptop?

 Regards,
 Enrique


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Re: Installation problem on Dell Latitude D810

2012-10-06 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 03:02:17PM +0200, Cesar Enrique Garcia Dabo wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I am trying to install Debian 6.0 on a rather old laptop Latitude D810. 
 However it hangs when detecting network hardware using the graphical 
 installer.
  On the same machine I was able to boot Fedora 17 without problems.
  I have tried also connecting an ethernet cable but it also hangs.
   The kernel messages on the same machine using kernel 3.5.3 from F17 are:
 
 [   16.608061] tg3.c:v3.123 (March 21, 2012)
 [   16.617814] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95751) rev 4001] 
 (PCI 
 Express) MAC address 00:14:22:e2:2d:9a
 [   16.617825] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: attached PHY is 5750 
 (10/100/1000Base-T 
 Ethernet) (WireSpeed[1], EEE[0])
 [   16.617834] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] 
 ASF[0] TSOcap[1]
 [   16.617842] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: dma_rwctrl[7618] dma_mask[64-bit]
 ...
 [   17.285950] ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 
 1.2.2kmprq
 [   17.285957] ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
 [   17.286183] ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection
 
  I am using image debian-wheezy-DI-b1-i386-netinst.iso.
  
Squeeze is Debian 6.0.  Are you using 6.0 or are you using Wheezy?

I've installed Squeeze on a Dell Latitude 810, using the text installer.
I always had to add 'vga=771' to the boot line, otherwise I got no
display.

-Rob


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Re: Installation problem on Dell Latitude D810

2012-10-06 Thread Brian
On Sat 06 Oct 2012 at 15:02:17 +0200, Cesar Enrique Garcia Dabo wrote:

  I am trying to install Debian 6.0 on a rather old laptop Latitude D810.

You are not trying hard enough. :)

 However it hangs when detecting network hardware using the graphical 
 installer.

Please see below.

  On the same machine I was able to boot Fedora 17 without problems.
  I have tried also connecting an ethernet cable but it also hangs.
   The kernel messages on the same machine using kernel 3.5.3 from F17 are:
 
 [   16.608061] tg3.c:v3.123 (March 21, 2012)
 [   16.617814] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95751) rev 4001] 
 (PCI 
 Express) MAC address 00:14:22:e2:2d:9a
 [   16.617825] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: attached PHY is 5750 
 (10/100/1000Base-T 
 Ethernet) (WireSpeed[1], EEE[0])
 [   16.617834] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] 
 ASF[0] TSOcap[1]
 [   16.617842] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: dma_rwctrl[7618] dma_mask[64-bit]
 ...
 [   17.285950] ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 
 1.2.2kmprq
 [   17.285957] ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
 [   17.286183] ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection
 
  I am using image debian-wheezy-DI-b1-i386-netinst.iso.

This is a beta image for Wheezy. What has happened to you is a known bug
in d-i.

  Do you know any way to install it on this laptop?

Use a Squeeze 6.0.5 install image.


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Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso

2012-10-06 Thread Wally Lepore
 Chris Bannister wrote:  (On Oct, 06, 2012)

 Debian will coexist with other OS's whereas Windows is a selfish OS and
 wants everything for itself.


That is why I can't afford a single trip-up with upsetting windows.
My whole life is on that drive! Sure I have my files backed up but the
applications alone would simply take weeks to reinstall if need be.


 I would ditch Windows completely unless you know you need it because
 you have proprietry software. Although nowadays there is usually a Linux
 alternative. More importantly, is hardware support; make sure Linux will
 work with your hardware.


I understand your suggestion and eventually I hope to move in that
direction but -for now- its highly unlikely that I'd be able to make a
100% switch. I am  involved with stock and currency trading and
utilize a whole bunch of applications for this profession. I am also a
musician and likewise utilize Sonar as my Digital Audio Workstation
along with a host of other applications to assist in composing music.

I also work with video editing and a host of other photo work. I
understand there are replacements for some (if not all of these)
applications, but the downtime would be enormous and I just can't
afford that right now. Step-by-step (as you already know). Thanks for
the up-lifting spirit. :-)


 I would grab a LiveCD and check the hardware works. At least you can get
 a listing (lspci, et al) for further checks.


Is this the link for the live CD?
http://www.debian.org/CD/live/

I ask because I attempted to install Ubuntu awhile back and their
LiveCd was a snap to find and download but that's a whole other story.
I'm still learning my way around Debian's web site.


 The hardware may require firmware regardless. That is why I suggest you
 get a listing of your hardware, then you can find out if firmware is
 required.


Using the Live CD link above?

Thank you for helping Chris.


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Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso

2012-10-06 Thread Wally Lepore
 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: (On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:46 AM),

 You will have a good idea what to expect after reading Chapter 6 of the
 guide. You will also have prepared for the possible need for firmware by
 unzipping the file you get from

 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/

 to a USB stick after reading Section 2.2.

 You might want to take up the offer at the partitioning stage of doing
 it manually. One large partition and a GB or two of swap space would
 suit many people.


Hi Brian,

Yes I am studying and reading Chapter 6. That link you sent me
above...is that for the LiveCD that test my hardware for firmware?

I never burned anything to a USB stick. Reading section 2.2 should be
a real education. I read in the past that burning iso images to a USB
can destroy the USB stick. It's just what I've read but I have no
experience performing this procedure as of yet.

Reading section 2.2 now. Thanks Brian.


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Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso

2012-10-06 Thread Wally Lepore
 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: (On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:14 AM),

 I have in the past set up a system on which I dual-booted by having
 Windows on one HDD and Linux on another.
 I then switched between them by changing the boot order in the BIOS.
 Easier and quicker than moving disks around.

 I solve the problem now by not having Windows!

 Lisi

Hi Lisi,

Good point. I am aware of changing the boot order of the drives in
BIOS but someone brought up a good point awhile back.
If I have both drives on a single cable
(Windows drive set to master and Debian drive set to slave),
can I change the boot order and make a slave drive boot first?
I was warned that this may not work.

I thought changing the boot order only works when drives (disks)
are installed on their own separate ribbon cables and each drive
is set to master (obviously).

Thank you Lisi.


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Laggy when viewing youtube video in fullscreen mode

2012-10-06 Thread houkensjtu
Hi debianer!
I installed debian on my new laptop, the lenovo x121e. I have no problem 
viewing 720p videos using vlc player. Everything is also fine when viewing 
youtube in window mode, however if I switch to fullscreen mode, it becomes 
quite laggy. I believe it's not because my hardware capability.
Here is my lsb_release:

LSB Version:
core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-amd64:core-4.1-noarch:cxx-3.0-amd64:cxx-3.0-noarch:cxx-3.1-amd64:cxx-3.1-noarch:cxx-3.2-amd64:cxx-3.2-noarch:cxx-4.0-amd64:cxx-4.0-noarch:cxx-4.1-amd64:cxx-4.1-noarch:desktop-3.1-amd64:desktop-3.1-noarch:desktop-3.2-amd64:desktop-3.2-noarch:desktop-4.0-amd64:desktop-4.0-noarch:desktop-4.1-amd64:desktop-4.1-noarch:graphics-2.0-amd64:graphics-2.0-noarch:graphics-3.0-amd64:graphics-3.0-noarch:graphics-3.1-amd64:graphics-3.1-noarch:graphics-3.2-amd64:graphics-3.2-noarch:graphics-4.0-amd64:graphics-4.0-noarch:graphics-4.1-amd64:graphics-4.1-noarch:languages-3.2-amd64:languages-3.2-noarch:languages-4.0-amd64:languages-4.0-noarch:languages-4.1-amd64:languages-4.1-noarch:multimedia-3.2-amd64:multimedia-3.2-noarch:multimedia-4.0-amd64:multimedia-4.0-noarch:multimedia-4.1-amd64:multimedia-4.1-noarch:printing-3.2-amd64:printing-3.2-noarch:printing-4.0-amd64:printing-4.0-noarch:printing-4.1-amd64:printing-4.1-noarch:qt4-3.1-amd64:qt4-3.1-noarch:security-4.0-amd64:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-amd64:security-4.1-noarch
Distributor ID: Debian
Description:Debian GNU/Linux testing (wheezy)
Release:testing
Codename:   wheezy

and I am using the Chromium browser.

Any idea?


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Debian Live to USB on Windows

2012-10-06 Thread Wally Lepore
Hi,

I would like to install Debian Live to a USB dtive (thumb drive) on
Windows. Will this install work? I am using Debian Live to test my
hardware and firmware prior to installing Squeeze from a netinst
install CD (that I already buned).

In the Debian FAQ there is only a mention on how to accomplish the USB
Live version install using a Linux system. (8th FAQ from the bottom).
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb

Also, I will not damage USB flash drive accomplishing the procedure?

I have 2 and 4 gig thumb drives.

Thank you


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Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso

2012-10-06 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 06 October 2012 15:22:52 Wally Lepore wrote:
  Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: (On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:14 AM),
 
  I have in the past set up a system on which I dual-booted by having
  Windows on one HDD and Linux on another.
  I then switched between them by changing the boot order in the BIOS.
  Easier and quicker than moving disks around.
 
  I solve the problem now by not having Windows!
 
  Lisi

 Hi Lisi,

 Good point. I am aware of changing the boot order of the drives in
 BIOS but someone brought up a good point awhile back.
 If I have both drives on a single cable
 (Windows drive set to master and Debian drive set to slave),
 can I change the boot order and make a slave drive boot first?
 I was warned that this may not work.

 I thought changing the boot order only works when drives (disks)
 are installed on their own separate ribbon cables and each drive
 is set to master (obviously).

 Thank you Lisi.

Hi, Wally,

It was quite a long time ago, but so far as I remember they were both on the 
same cable.  I think that I had both optical drives on one cable and both IDE 
drives on another.  It may depend on the specific motherboard and BIOS, the 
specific cables and drives, even which way the wind is blowing. ;-)

The fact that it worked for me, doesn't mean that it will work for you.  But 
if your informant only says that it might not work, then there is nothing to 
lose.  Why not try it?  If it works, well and good.  If it doesn't work, too 
bad, and go back to your original plan.

Before doing any playing around, if the stuff you have on your Windows HDD is 
so precious, you really need a good backup, such as done by Clonezilla, 
Norton Ghost,etc.; even dd.  Indeed, you need that good a backup all the time 
in case the HDD dies.  (They do you know.  Usually just when it is most 
inconvenient.)

Lisi


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Re: Debian Live to USB on Windows

2012-10-06 Thread Whit Hansell
Regarding dual drives wincows and linux.  I have done it in the past w. 
the windows the first drive on the cable and linux second as slave but 
in the menu system having Linux as the first menu item.  That way if you 
boot grub from the mbr it goes to grub and your menu and you're good to go.


Regarding installing to the thumb drive.  Have never done it before but 
would try:


In BIOS, set CD/DVD to first boot sequence.
Set thumb drive to second boot sequence, [assuming your mbd recognizes 
thumb drives as bootable]

etc

Then putting linux install disk in cd/dvd drive it should open up and 
you should be able to get to your thumb drive and set it up as you would 
a standard  HD, but I would not set grub to MBR, but  to the boot of the 
thumb drive so you don't mess up your hard drive. I screwed up once and 
set grub to mbr and then removed the linux drive later and played hell 
trying to get anything to  work as the boot sequence did not show the 
linux drive anymore and it was a major problem for me to get the mbr 
back to the windows standard.   Thank God I had another computer to do 
research and burn CD's.


Anyway, that's what I would do.  Also this was done w. the old grub.  If 
you are using the new grub I'm lost on it.  I just let it do it's thing 
and pray.


HTH
Whit


On 10/06/2012 11:57 AM, Wally Lepore wrote:

Hi,

I would like to install Debian Live to a USB dtive (thumb drive) on
Windows. Will this install work? I am using Debian Live to test my
hardware and firmware prior to installing Squeeze from a netinst
install CD (that I already buned).

In the Debian FAQ there is only a mention on how to accomplish the USB
Live version install using a Linux system. (8th FAQ from the bottom).
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb

Also, I will not damage USB flash drive accomplishing the procedure?

I have 2 and 4 gig thumb drives.

Thank you





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Re: Debian Live to USB on Windows

2012-10-06 Thread Brian
On Sat 06 Oct 2012 at 11:57:15 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:

 I would like to install Debian Live to a USB dtive (thumb drive) on
 Windows. Will this install work? I am using Debian Live to test my
 hardware and firmware prior to installing Squeeze from a netinst
 install CD (that I already buned).
 
 In the Debian FAQ there is only a mention on how to accomplish the USB
 Live version install using a Linux system. (8th FAQ from the bottom).
 http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb

Win32 Disk Imager

   https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
 
 Also, I will not damage USB flash drive accomplishing the procedure?

Only if you tread on it.


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Re: dynamic IP assignment on servers = brain damage

2012-10-06 Thread Satoru Otsubo
Hi,
Stan

 
 The problem in this thread is but one of many that can/will result from
 using dynamic IP assignment with servers.  If the OP had mentioned his
 use of dynamic IP up front he would have saved himself, and the rest of
 us, much time.
 

Pardon me.
I did not understand that dynamic IP assignment was an important factor to 
solve the problem.
I apologize that you and the others took much time to consider the cause of the 
problem.
And pardon me for my poor English.

Satoru


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Re: apache2's handling of IP version 6

2012-10-06 Thread Satoru Otsubo
Hi,
Tom H

 
 Does ipv6 come up cleanly if you do a soft or hard restart of apache
 in rc.local?
 

I can't understand a soft or hard restart.

But I examined as follows:

..Case 1..

I editted /etc/rc.local as follows: (Do I have to add exit 0 at end ?)

#!/bin/sh -e
#
# rc.local
#
# This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel.
# Make sure that the script will exit 0 on success or any other
# value on error.
#
# In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution
# bits.
#
# By default this script does nothing.

/etc/init.d/apache2 restart

exit 0


(Reference)
# /etc/rc2.d/
README S18apache2  S19openbsd-inetd  S21bootlogs
S14portmap S19acpidS19spamassassin   S22rc.local
S15nfs-common  S19atd  S19sshS22rmnologin
S17rsyslog S19cron S20exim4  S22stop-bootlogd

In this case, After booting finished, I was able to find port 80 in tcp6 lines 
of netstat -an.
I didn't need # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart.
But a few seconds elapse at the stage of exim4.
Therefore,

..Case 2..
/etc/rc.local is same as Case 1.

And I executed,
# mv /etc/rc2.d/{S20,K80}exim4
# update-rc.d exim4 defaults

# ls /etc/rc2.d/
K01exim4   S17rsyslog  S19cron   S21bootlogs
README S18apache2  S19openbsd-inetd  S22rc.local
S14portmap S19acpidS19spamassassin   S22rmnologin
S15nfs-common  S19atd  S19sshS22stop-bootlogd

In this case, After booting finished, I was unable to find port 80 in tcp6 
lines.
I needed # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart.

 
 All that you really need for ipv6 is the ::1 ... line. Having one
 line less on your X-less box won't make a difference.
 
 Is this your entire /etc/hosts? Don;t you have any ipv4 settings?!
 

The entire text is the following:

127.0.0.1   localhost
192.168.xx.xx   .xxx.xx 

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters


Thanks,
Satoru


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Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso

2012-10-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:04:17AM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
 
 Is this the link for the live CD?
 http://www.debian.org/CD/live/

Thats one. There is also knoppix, and various others.

 I ask because I attempted to install Ubuntu awhile back and their
 LiveCd was a snap to find and download but that's a whole other story.

If you still have it lying around, I'd use that, the software to get the
hardware is not specific to Debian. I'd just run sudo lspci -vv  in a
terminal and save as a text file to any old USB stick you've got lying
around. 

Boot CD - Plug in USB - find out where it is mounted, then in a
terminal issue: sudo lspci -vv  /mountpoint/lspci-list

and voila!


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libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2

2012-10-06 Thread Kirsten Ciantar

can you please tell me how to download this package for debian OS because it is 
not listed in the list of packages? Thanks  
  

Re: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2

2012-10-06 Thread hvw59601

Kirsten Ciantar wrote:
can you please tell me how to download this package for debian OS 
because it is not listed in the list of packages? Thanks


http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/libstdc%2B%2B2.10-glibc2.2/

Hugo


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Re: virtual consoles

2012-10-06 Thread james gray
Thanks Mike , that is a bit thick for me.

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Mike McClain mike.j...@nethere.com wrote:

 Howdy,
 On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 03:38:14PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 07:08:49AM -0700, james gray wrote:
  Does any one know of - info source to set up virtual consoles in the
  network install of Debian Squeeze 6.0???
 snip
 
  OK. You've been following a bit of a red-herring there, but that's only
  to be expected. Virtual Terminals, themselves are controlled by the
  kernel, but most relevant is the program that runs on the virtual
  terminal and asks for your login details. This is called a getty and
  is configured in /etc/inittab. You should see a series of lines such
  as:
 
  1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
  2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
  3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
  4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
  5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
  6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
 

 In addition to the excellent advice Darac gave if you're runnung
 without a GUi and don't want to have to login to each VT take a look
 at openvt.
 my /etc/inittab contains these lines:

 #   one vt for root and one for mike.
 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4

 # Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow).
 # sudo needed unless NOPASSWD:ALL   in /etc/sudoers?
 kb::kbrequest:$( [ id -u -eq 0 ]  /bin/openvt -su ||
 sudo /bin/openvt -su)

 This line allows me to open vts with a single keystroke without logging in
 to each one.

 HTH,
 Mike
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Re: Persistent MySQL Process

2012-10-06 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 11:27:07AM -0700, Daniel Latter wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 System:
 cat /etc/issue
 Debian GNU/Linux 6.0
 
 I have a long running MySQL process that runs for days and eventually crashes 
 the server.
 
 I googled about and discovered that Debian has it's own MySQL start up script 
 that runs a  check tables command, so I commented this out and restarted, 
 but the process immediately started again. 
 
 I have webmin installed and when I view the process information it has a 
 parent process of init[2]?
 
 Also, when I view the files and programs related to the persistent process in 
 question, it lists ibdata files (innodb data files), one being 8GB in size! I 
 am wondering if this has anything to do with it? 
 
 Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated.

grep mysql /etc/inittab

grep mysql /etc/init.d/*

If it shows up in the first, pull it out and reboot. If it shows
up more than once in the second, look for the offending script.

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