Re: John sous Squeeze : vérification de la solidité des mots de passe

2013-01-03 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le jeudi 03 janvier 2013 à  0:34, Alain Vaugham a écrit :
 Bonjour la liste,

Bonjour,

[...]

 Cela me laisse perplexe que Squeeze fournirait un paquet qui ne
 fonctionnerait pas brut d'install.

Chez moi (Squeeze), ça fonctionne correctement (sudo john /etc/shadow).

 Dans quelles autres directions devrais-je plutôt chercher?

Tu as peut-être des choses qui le dérangent dans /root/.john (je ne connais pas
bien le fonctionnement de l'outil).

Seb

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Re: butineur et utf8

2013-01-03 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le jeudi 03 janvier 2013 à  8:43, bruno.deb...@cyberoso.com a écrit :
 Iceweasel 14.01 ici et il m'a fallu forcer l'encodage UTF8 car western
 était sélectionné par défaut.

Pareil pour moi. J'ai un Iceweasel (18, je crois) de http://mozilla.debian.net/
et un Iceweasel 3.5.16-20 de Squeeze. Il a fallu que je le redémarre pour que
l'encodage soit pris en compte.

Seb

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problème de routage avec 2 interfaces réseau

2013-01-03 Thread moi-meme
J'ai mon Raspberry avec une Raspbian dedans (je reste en charte).

J'ai une clé wifi et une RJ45 branchés.

Les deux séparément fonctionnent sans problème.
D'office je suis sur la RJ45.
Si je le débranche je perds la liaison.

Si je boote avec le Wifi seul c'est lui qui a la route par défaut.

En fait j'ai un route par défaut qui utilise le RJ45.
Une seule route par défaut (ce qui semble normal).

Les deux liaisons sont configurées en IP fixe  via /etc/network/interface.

Comment je fais pour garder la liaison en cas de changement de mode ?

Merci d'avance

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Re: [Un peu HS] Raspberry PI clavier/souris

2013-01-03 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Après réception de mon Raspberry PI, je reprends ce fil de discussion
car, si le Logitech K400 fonctionne bien, à chaque reboot, je dois
débrancher le récepteur USB puis le rebrancher pour qu'il soit
reconnu...

Tu as aussi ce problème ?

Merci.

David.

Le Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:27:45 +0100,
David Cure deb...@cure.nom.fr a écrit :
   Bonjour,

Le Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:10:32PM +0100, David BERCOT ecrivait :
 
 Avez-vous une expérience personnelle avec cet objet ? Dans le cadre
 de l'usage que je souhaite en faire ? Des conseils ?

   pour ma part, j'ai choisi le Logitec K400 qui a un touchpad
intégré au clavier et j'en suis satisfait.

   David.

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Zimowisko Linuxowe TLUG-u Puck-2013.

2013-01-03 Thread kzubik
Dnia 3 Stycznia 2013, 3:06 pm, Cz, Tomasz Lenartowicz napisał.
 Witajcie,
 w tym roku planujemy zorganizowac Zimowisko linuksowe 2013
 w terminie 8-10 marzec 2013 (pt-nd), w CKU Pucku.
 Termin jest juz zaklepany.

 W zwiazku z tym:
 Zapraszamy do zglaszania prezentacji i wykladow za posrednictwem strony:

 https://zimowisko2013.konfeo.com

 Dla wykladowcow oferujemy jak zawsze atrakcyjne znizki.
 Bez waszego aktywnego udzialu Zimowisko sie nie odbedzie.

 Termin zglaszania propozycji mija 31 stycznia 2013.

 Organizatorzy.
 zimowisko.linux.gda.pl
Witam.
Obecnie do 31 stycznia trwa przyjmowanie zgloszen prezentacji i
o nim wiecej w powyzszym cytacie.

Witryna pod http://zimowisko.linux.gda.pl i tu w lutym beda otwarte zapisy i
podane ceny uczestnictwa.

Miejsce tak jak rok temu.
Powiatowe Centrum Kształcenia Ustawicznego
ul. Kolejowa 7, 84-100 Puck

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Re: Feliz y Prospero 2013

2013-01-03 Thread Javier Sánchez González
Gracias a todos por el 2012.
SALUD, PAZ y ÉXITOS en este 2013
Atte
Javier Sánchez González.

On Miércoles 02 Enero 2013 21:53:04 TuxNut - El laboratorio Informático Online 
escribió:
 MUY FELIZ 2013 !!
 
 El 2 de enero de 2013 20:33, Paradix ;) rayn...@infomed.sld.cu escribió:
  Ala de Dragón aladedra...@gmail.com escribió:
   Igualmente:
  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
  :D   :D
  :D Feliz año nuevo a tod@s. :D
  :D   :D
  :D:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
  
  Saludos
  
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  Comparto el saludo desde argentina!
  Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Personal (http://www.personal.com.ar/)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: francisco cid francisco...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:37:27
  To: Lista de correos Debian en
  Españoldebian-user-spanish@**lists.debian.orgdebian-user-spanish@lis
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  Subject: Re: Feliz y Prospero 2013
  
  El 02/01/2013 13:31, José Manuel (EB8CXW) eb8cx...@infonegocio.com
  
  escribió:
  Hola a tod@s,
  
  Les deseo que este año recién empezado les traiga todo y nada. Todo lo
  
  que lees haga feliz y nada de lo que les haga triste.
  
  Feliz 2013
  
  Cuídense.
  
  --
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  Gran Canaria/España
  
  Si vas a escribir.. piensa en esto:
  no digas nada que no sea mas precioso que el silencio!!!
  
  
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Re: Debian squeze en IBM 3550 M4

2013-01-03 Thread Nicolas Paleari





 De: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
Enviado: lunes, 31 de diciembre de 2012 15:01
Asunto: Re: Debian squeze en IBM 3550 M4
 
El Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:24:25 -0800, Nicolas Paleari escribió:

(...)

 No sé... piensa si no te convendría esperar a que salga wheezy que ya
 trae de serie un kernel actualizado, aunque tampoco estoy segura de que
 tenga soporte directo, convendría probar primero con una LiveCD.

 Si, veo que yahoo no funciona bien con la lista, registrare un mail de
 gmail. 

Antes mira a ver si puedes configurarlo porque desde luego es un destroza-
mensajes :-(

 En cuanto a mi problema quiero aclarar que la controladora ee la 
 Serveraid M5110 de IBM y viene con el controlador LSI SAS 2208, el 
 mismo que la controladora 9270-8i que nombras. 

Ah, perfecto.

 El firmware aun no lo pude actualizar, por lo que dice en el booteo es
 viejo, la version es la 5.30 de nov de 2011, baje el firmware de
 la 9270-8i pero me dice que es invalido. 

Como se trata de una controladora integrada, es posible que tengas que 
usar el firmware de IBM que es el ensamblador. 

 Respeto a instalar una imagen personalizada lo probe e instale la que
 nombran en este articulo (http://infogerance-linux.net/2012
 /installation-de-debian-squeeze-sur-un-ibm-x3550m4-avec-carte-raid-
 m5110-base-sur-lsi-sas2208-roc-firmware-mars-2012/) la instale y me 
 tomo la controladora sin problema. 

Qué bien :-)

 Ahora bien, por una cuestion de requerimientos de un soft privativo que
 se instalara en el server me exigen instala squeezy con el
 kernel 2.6.32-5, 

Pues diles que tendrán que elegir entre una configuración de discos en 
modo RAID o el kernel que quieren porque ambos son incompatibles. Y la 
verdad es que es una pena no poder usar esa controladora en modo RAID 
porque parece bastante buena ;-(

 la proxima semana voy a consultar si puedo dejar instalado el debian q
 me reconocio la controladora raid, en caso que me pidan si o si squeezy
 kernel 2.6.32-5, tengo alguna solucion??

No, no la tienes salvo que a) te pongas en contacto con LSI y les pidas 
un driver para tu versión del kernel o b) configures los discos duros de 
manera independiente (sin RAID) y pongas un RAID por software (md) pero 
repito que sería una pena desaprovechar esa tarjeta.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

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Hola lista, queria comentarles que ya pude solucionar mi problema, logro 
contactarme con el fabricante (LSI) de la controladora (M5110 SAS2208) y me 
mando los drivers para Squeeze 6.0 oficial, segui los paso que me detallaron y 
me detecto el RAID si problema, cualquiera que necesite los drivers me avisa y 
se los mando.

Muchas gracias a todos!

Saludos

Re: SAMBA Error: Could not change to user. Removing deferred open, mid=36293

2013-01-03 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:19:22 -0300, Robert J. Briones C. escribió:

 Estimados.
 
 Tengo un servidor samba instalado y de un momento a otro me bloqueo el
 acceo a un PC.
 
 estan todos con windows 7 y todos se conectan sin problema, y el pc
 bloqueado tambien lo hacía, hastq eu dejo de hacerlo.
 
 Ni siquiera veo el servidor SAMBA en la red.
 
 el log de ese es el siguiente :

(...)

 [2013/01/02 09:48:21.607088,  1]
 smbd/service.c:1070(make_connection_snum)
   marketing (:::20.0.0.100) connect to service desarrollos
 initially as user robert (uid=1003, gid=1004) (pid 31569) [2013/01/02
 09:48:48.760674,  1] smbd/service.c:678(make_connection_snum)
   create_connection_server_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED

(...)

 [2013/01/02 10:05:19.991764,  0] lib/util.c:1465(smb_panic)
   PANIC (pid 31569): register_initial_vuid: Tried to register uid in
 security=share
 [2013/01/02 10:05:20.000275,  0] lib/util.c:1569(log_stack_trace)
   BACKTRACE: 17 stack frames:

(...)

Bueno, el primer mensaje podría no ser grave pero el segundo es un traza 
de fallo en toda regla y bastante descriptiva en cuanto a la gravedad, 
por cierto (smb_panic). El servicio smbd ha encontrado una situación que 
no puede gestionar y se habrá colgado, conviene informar del fallo.

 Parece que me bloqueo el equipo o algo así.. si alguien  me ayuda o me
 dice donde buscar ya que no he encontrado nada se los agradecería.

¿Dices que se ha bloqueado _el equipo completo_? Eso sería más grave aún. 
Mira a ver si puedes acceder vía ssh para reiniciar el demonio.

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Re: Squid, Debian y un usuario domestico enloquecido ;)

2013-01-03 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:52:49 +0100, Ala de Dragón escribió:

 ¡Hola a tod@s y feliz año nuevo!
 
 :D

Igualmente :-)

 Estoy buscando info en la lista y google acerca de como configurar
 squid. He encontrado mucha info acerca de entornos complejos, pero creo
 que mi escenario es sencillo y les solicito consejo. les descrio el
 entorno.
 
 Una maquina con debian:
 
 Linux version 2.6.32-5-powerpc64 (Debian 2.6.32-46) (da...@debian.org)
 (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) )
 
 Dos interficies de Red
  ^^^

¿Inter-qué? ¿T'has inventao un palabro nuevo? :-P

 eth0
 eth1
 
 Una conexión a internet por mediación de un viejo teléfono móvil. Una
 combinacion entre 3g y bluetooth.

(...)

 Tengo configurado un servidor proxy, squid 2 escuchando en todas las
 interficies de red.

¿En llas tres? :-?
 
 Squid Cache: Version 2.7.STABLE9

(...)

 lsof -i | grep LISTEN
 
 
 squid 4238   proxy9u  IPv4 444516  0t0  TCP
 localhost:http-alt (LISTEN)
 
 Funcionar, funciona puesto que me estoy conectando ahora mismo desde el
 proxy. No esta activada la cache ni esta en modo transparente. Si cambio
 la configuración del proxy en el navegador salgo a la red sin problemas.
 
 La configuración de squid la obtuve de:
 
 https://calomel.org/squid.html
 
 
 Por lo que podido leer en la lista se puede utilizar iptables o ebtables
 para redireccionar las solicitudes al proxy (modo transparente) y
 denegar la salida a la red a todo lo que no pase por el proxy. La idea
 es minimizar el uso del ancho de banda, tengo unos 100 MB mensuales.

¿Y no sería más sencillo en lugar de un proxy desactivar en el navegador 
flash y las imágenes y habilitar un espacio en caché gordota? No sé, un 
proxy para un único usuario me parece un tanto excesivo :-?

 Como ejemplo desactivo las imágenes en el navegador etc... Me gustaría
 cachear la web para de ese modo poder leer las paginas de manuales que
 tengo almacenadas en el historial sin necesidad de gastar un bit del
 isp. 

No creo que necesites un proxy para eso...

 Por ejemplo este manual sobre como montar squid
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2012/12/msg00292.html
 
 http://www.tutoriales-ubuntu.com/archives/configurar-un-proxy-
transparente-con-squid
 
 Pero en todos esos ejemplos describen una red local a la que darle
 servicio  no es mi caso.

(...)

Bueno, no veo por qué no ha de servirte, pero en tu caso quizá te apañes 
mejor con algo más ajustado a tu entorno como Polipo. Pero si te 
interesa tirar por soluciones gigánticas lo dices y nos podemos con los 
problemas que enumeras más abajo :-)

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Re: Debian squeze en IBM 3550 M4

2013-01-03 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:37:24 -0800, Nicolas Paleari escribió:

(...)

 la proxima semana voy a consultar si puedo dejar instalado el debian q
 me reconocio la controladora raid, en caso que me pidan si o si 
 squeezy kernel 2.6.32-5, tengo alguna solucion??
 
 No, no la tienes salvo que a) te pongas en contacto con LSI y les pidas
 un driver para tu versión del kernel o b) configures los discos duros 
 de manera independiente (sin RAID) y pongas un RAID por software (md)
 pero repito que sería una pena desaprovechar esa tarjeta.
 
 Hola lista, queria comentarles que ya pude solucionar mi problema, logro
 contactarme con el fabricante (LSI) de la controladora (M5110 SAS2208) y
 me mando los drivers para Squeeze 6.0 oficial, segui los paso que me
 detallaron y me detecto el RAID si problema, cualquiera que necesite los
 drivers me avisa y se los mando.

Caray... pues qué quieres que te diga, +10 puntos para LSI, eso sí que es 
un soporte técnico como debe ser. Pues tomo buena nota para la próxima 
controladora RAID que tenga que comprar, no todos los días te encuentras 
con una respuesta como la que te han dado a ti y eso, en una empresa, 
vale tanto o más como un buen producto.

 Muchas gracias a todos!

Pues me alegro un montón de que lo hayas solucionado, aunque sería 
interesante que publicaran esos drivers en su página web para que otros 
usuarios en tu situación pudieran hacer lo mismo sin tener que hacer 
malabares :-)

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Re: OT: instalar spip como localhost en debian

2013-01-03 Thread Anamhoo
Saludos lista, Camaleón:

On 29/12/12 16:25, Camaleón wrote:
 El Sat, 29 Dec 2012 13:42:42 -0600, Anamhoo escribió:

   
 Estoy tratando de aprender a usar spip (http://www.spip.net) en mi
 computadora personal pero como soy una neófita en todo esto me atoro en
 cosas que tal vez son muy simples, así que el primer problema que tuve
 fue con lograr una instalación manual de spip con un localhost. Lo
 primero que hice fue recurrir a synaptic e instalar pero no funcionó.
 
 (...)

 ¿Y qué error te daba? 

 Porque los paquetes disponibles en los repositorios oficiales no deberían 
 dar muchos problemas salvo que tengan algún bug o que sean realmente 
 complejos de configurar para lo cual suele haber instrucciones más
Más bien cuando hice la instalación se abrió una carpeta SPIP pero no
contenía los archivos que me indicaban desde la instalación del sitio
SPIP y otra documentación de la red que había consultado. Pensé que tal
vez estarían en otro sitio y busqué dentro de las carpetas pero no
encontré nada. Entonces fue que seguí buscando y encontré la página que
comenté.
  o 
 menos detalladas en la documentación... ¿Consultaste el archivo /usr/
 share/doc/spip/README.Debian?
   
No (//) no fui directo a esa carpeta, lo que hice fue ver todos los
archivos spip en el buscador y traté de encontrar si había algún
documento help pero no encontré nada, tal vez no supe buscar.
Aunque ahora que veo el paquete desde
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/spip/download veo que no probé
instalar desde ahí, me fui directo al synaptic...
En un tiempito libre pruebo y escribo de vuelta
Saludos

  
 Saludos,

   


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Re: OT: instalar spip como localhost en debian

2013-01-03 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:27:59 -0600, Anamhoo escribió:

 Saludos lista, Camaleón:
 
 On 29/12/12 16:25, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 Lo primero que hice fue recurrir a synaptic e instalar pero no
 funcionó.
 
 (...)

 ¿Y qué error te daba?

 Porque los paquetes disponibles en los repositorios oficiales no
 deberían dar muchos problemas salvo que tengan algún bug o que sean
 realmente complejos de configurar para lo cual suele haber
 instrucciones más

 Más bien cuando hice la instalación se abrió una carpeta SPIP pero no
 contenía los archivos que me indicaban desde la instalación del sitio
 SPIP y otra documentación de la red que había consultado. Pensé que tal
 vez estarían en otro sitio y busqué dentro de las carpetas pero no
 encontré nada. Entonces fue que seguí buscando y encontré la página que
 comenté.

Bueno, ya sabes que Debian (al igual que el resto de distribuciones 
Linux) suele personalizar los directorios de los paquetes para 
adecuarlo a su sistema, es algo normal, por eso conviene leer la 
documentación del paquete que incluye tu versión concreta de Debian para 
ver dónde, cómo y qué ha instalado exactamente y para saber cómo 
configurarlo e iniciarlo ya que los paquetes de Debian también suelen 
incluir un asistente que no está disponible en el programa original.

  o
 menos detalladas en la documentación... ¿Consultaste el archivo /usr/
 share/doc/spip/README.Debian?
   
 No (//) no fui directo a esa carpeta, lo que hice fue ver todos los
 archivos spip en el buscador y traté de encontrar si había algún
 documento help pero no encontré nada, tal vez no supe buscar. 

Generalmente, los paquetes de Debian incluyen siempre la documentación y 
la instalan en /usr/share/doc/[paquete].

 Aunque ahora que veo el paquete desde http://packages.debian.org
/squeeze/all/spip/download veo que no probé instalar desde ahí, me fui
 directo al synaptic... En un tiempito libre pruebo y escribo de vuelta

Es lo mismo :-)

Synaptic descarga los paquetes desde los repositorios en línea pero con 
la ventaja de que puede resolver las dependencias automáticamente 
mientras que si descargas manualmente un paquete .deb con dpkg que 
depende de algún otro paquete te dirá que no puede instalarlo.

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Iceweasel no genera en PDF un recibo de un banco

2013-01-03 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)

Hola

Hasta noviembre si lo hacía, pero hoy he querido imprimir un duplicado 
de un recibo en mi entidad de crédito, y al intentar general el pdf del 
recibo, se abre una ventana en blanco, con el asunto   about:blank.
Tengo Debian testing con iceweaset 17.0.1. el iceweaset esta instalado 
desde experimental.


Espero que me puedan ayudar, gracias de antemano.

Feliz año 2013

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Re: Iceweasel no genera en PDF un recibo de un banco

2013-01-03 Thread Adrià
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:56:55PM +, José Manuel (EB8CXW) wrote:
 Hola
 
 Hasta noviembre si lo hacía, pero hoy he querido imprimir un
 duplicado de un recibo en mi entidad de crédito, y al intentar
 general el pdf del recibo, se abre una ventana en blanco, con el
 asunto   about:blank.
 Tengo Debian testing con iceweaset 17.0.1. el iceweaset esta
 instalado desde experimental.

Puedes probar con otro navegador... o con otro banco.
Tambien sería de utilidad que
1) dijeras de qué entidad bancaria se trata por si hay otros usuarios
que les funciona y te pueden dar pistas.
2) dijeras de qué entidad bancaria se trata para no hacerse cliente de
ella.
3) hablaras con tu entidad bancaria para que tomen consciencia de que
existe mundo más allá del navegador de la 'e' azul. Un poco utópico,
pero por probar que no quede.

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Re: Debian squeze en IBM 3550 M4

2013-01-03 Thread Roberto Quiñones
El día 3 de enero de 2013 11:56, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:37:24 -0800, Nicolas Paleari escribió:

 (...)

 la proxima semana voy a consultar si puedo dejar instalado el debian q
 me reconocio la controladora raid, en caso que me pidan si o si
 squeezy kernel 2.6.32-5, tengo alguna solucion??

 No, no la tienes salvo que a) te pongas en contacto con LSI y les pidas
 un driver para tu versión del kernel o b) configures los discos duros
 de manera independiente (sin RAID) y pongas un RAID por software (md)
 pero repito que sería una pena desaprovechar esa tarjeta.

 Hola lista, queria comentarles que ya pude solucionar mi problema, logro
 contactarme con el fabricante (LSI) de la controladora (M5110 SAS2208) y
 me mando los drivers para Squeeze 6.0 oficial, segui los paso que me
 detallaron y me detecto el RAID si problema, cualquiera que necesite los
 drivers me avisa y se los mando.

 Caray... pues qué quieres que te diga, +10 puntos para LSI, eso sí que es
 un soporte técnico como debe ser. Pues tomo buena nota para la próxima
 controladora RAID que tenga que comprar, no todos los días te encuentras
 con una respuesta como la que te han dado a ti y eso, en una empresa,
 vale tanto o más como un buen producto.

 Muchas gracias a todos!

 Pues me alegro un montón de que lo hayas solucionado, aunque sería
 interesante que publicaran esos drivers en su página web para que otros
 usuarios en tu situación pudieran hacer lo mismo sin tener que hacer
 malabares :-)

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Publicar los driver y la forma en como lo solucionaste siguiendo los
pasos que te indico el proveedor de la controladora seria más aun
efectivo para quienes tenemos o tienen problemas con dicha
controladora.

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Re: Iceweasel no genera en PDF un recibo de un banco

2013-01-03 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)



El 03/01/13 19:03, Adrià escribió:

On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:56:55PM +, José Manuel (EB8CXW) wrote:

Hola

Hasta noviembre si lo hacía, pero hoy he querido imprimir un
duplicado de un recibo en mi entidad de crédito, y al intentar
general el pdf del recibo, se abre una ventana en blanco, con el
asunto   about:blank.
Tengo Debian testing con iceweaset 17.0.1. el iceweaset esta
instalado desde experimental.

Puedes probar con otro navegador... o con otro banco.
Tambien sería de utilidad que
1) dijeras de qué entidad bancaria se trata por si hay otros usuarios
que les funciona y te pueden dar pistas.
2) dijeras de qué entidad bancaria se trata para no hacerse cliente de
ella.
3) hablaras con tu entidad bancaria para que tomen consciencia de que
existe mundo más allá del navegador de la 'e' azul. Un poco utópico,
pero por probar que no quede.



Hola

Adrián, gracias por contestar.
La entidad es Caja de Canarias. y como dije hasta noviembre lo hacía sin 
problemas. Lo he comprobado con el navegador que viene por defecto de 
Gnome y funciona bien. Por lo que es un problema de Iceweasel, y no se 
porque ahora no se puede y antes si.


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Re: SAMBA Error: Could not change to user. Removing deferred open, mid=36293

2013-01-03 Thread Robert J. Briones C.
El día 3 de enero de 2013 11:31, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:19:22 -0300, Robert J. Briones C. escribió:

 Estimados.

 Tengo un servidor samba instalado y de un momento a otro me bloqueo el
 acceo a un PC.

 estan todos con windows 7 y todos se conectan sin problema, y el pc
 bloqueado tambien lo hacía, hastq eu dejo de hacerlo.

 Ni siquiera veo el servidor SAMBA en la red.

 el log de ese es el siguiente :

 (...)

 [2013/01/02 09:48:21.607088,  1]
 smbd/service.c:1070(make_connection_snum)
   marketing (:::20.0.0.100) connect to service desarrollos
 initially as user robert (uid=1003, gid=1004) (pid 31569) [2013/01/02
 09:48:48.760674,  1] smbd/service.c:678(make_connection_snum)
   create_connection_server_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED

 (...)

 [2013/01/02 10:05:19.991764,  0] lib/util.c:1465(smb_panic)
   PANIC (pid 31569): register_initial_vuid: Tried to register uid in
 security=share
 [2013/01/02 10:05:20.000275,  0] lib/util.c:1569(log_stack_trace)
   BACKTRACE: 17 stack frames:

 (...)

 Bueno, el primer mensaje podría no ser grave pero el segundo es un traza
 de fallo en toda regla y bastante descriptiva en cuanto a la gravedad,
 por cierto (smb_panic). El servicio smbd ha encontrado una situación que
 no puede gestionar y se habrá colgado, conviene informar del fallo.

bug ?, por que me pasa solo con un cliente, he probado con 7 equipos
distintos y todos se conectan menos 1.

el equipo que no se conecta se conectaba sin problemas. es un windows
7 ultimate, al igual que otros 4, un windows 7 started, un windows 8 ,
y un XP, todos sin problemas.



 Parece que me bloqueo el equipo o algo así.. si alguien  me ayuda o me
 dice donde buscar ya que no he encontrado nada se los agradecería.

 ¿Dices que se ha bloqueado _el equipo completo_? Eso sería más grave aún.
 Mira a ver si puedes acceder vía ssh para reiniciar el demonio.


no, me exprese mal, me refiero a que me ha bloqueado el acceso a un
cliente. el servidor funciona bien, con ese cliente tengo acceso a
todo lo demas. (SSH, HTTP, FTP, SVN, ETC)

NOTA: probe reinstalar el servidor de samba, pero sigo sin poder conectarme.

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Re: problema ao montar hd externo

2013-01-03 Thread Gabriel Ricardo
http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged


Atenciosamente,
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Em 2 de janeiro de 2013 20:31, Deckardbot deckard...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá Gabriel,

 Desculpe pela demora em responder. Sabe como é virada de ano né heuhhue
 Mas enfim... monitorei o dmesg e obtive o seguinte registro ao plugar o HD
 na USB:

 [ 6165.714394] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access Samsung  S2
 Portable   PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS
 [ 6165.715688] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
 [ 6165.717062] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte logical blocks: (500
 GB/465 GiB)
 [ 6165.717804] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
 [ 6165.717810] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 28 00 00 00
 [ 6165.717816] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
 [ 6165.719304] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
 [ 6165.719312]  sdb: sdb1
 [ 6165.747684] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
 [ 6165.747694] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk

 Estranho porque nunca tive problema em montá-lo e começou ocorrer após
 formatar
 o squeeze (kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64).

 Percebi tambem que não permissão para usar o comando mount.

 $ mkdir hdd
 $ mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 ~/hdd/
 mount: operação exclusiva de root

 Porem, pelo Gnome eu marquei todas as opções de permissão para o meu
 usuário.
 Tanto que aparece com o tipo administrador.

 Obs: com o root estou conseguindo montar o hd externo.

 Em 28 de dezembro de 2012 06:48, Gabriel Ricardo 
 gricard...@gmail.comescreveu:

 A partição NTFS pode estar pedindo para passar chkdsk ( dirty flag
 ativa).

 Abra outro terminal, e acompanhe via dmesg: watch dmesg | tail

 Tente montar, se ele reclamar de dirty existem 2 opções, usar o ntfsfix
 no linux mesmo (que nem sempre resolve) ou usar um Windows para verificar
 partição.


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 2012/12/28 Deckardbot deckard...@gmail.com

 Olá

 Tenho um hd externo formatado com NTFS.
 Nunca tive problemas para montá-lo, porem depois de formatar meu Squeeze
 ocorre o erro:

 Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
 Error opening '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
 Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
 Please check '/dev/sdb1' and the ntfs-3g binary permissions,
 and the mounting user ID. More explanation is provided at
 http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#unprivileged

 Mas estou no grupo FUSE.
 $ groups
 user adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev netdev
 bluetooth lpadmin fuse scanner

 Alguem pode ajudar?

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Re: problema ao montar hd externo

2013-01-03 Thread Rodolfo
mount: operação exclusiva de root


Seu usuariio nao tem permissao para usar o comando mount.

Adicione seu usuario ao grupo mount:

# adduser USUARUI mount

Abraços.

Em 2 de janeiro de 2013 18:31, Deckardbot deckard...@gmail.com escreveu:

 mount: operação exclusiva de root


Re: problema ao montar hd externo

2013-01-03 Thread P. J.
Em 03/01/13, Rodolforof20...@gmail.com escreveu:
 mount: operação exclusiva de root


 Seu usuariio nao tem permissao para usar o comando mount.

 Adicione seu usuario ao grupo mount:

Não existe esse grupo pelo menos na versão Wheezy do debian que estou
usando, o grupo não seria esse?

plugdev

Members of this group can access removable devices in limited ways without
explicit configuration in /etc/fstab. This is useful for local users who
expect to be able to insert and use CDs, USB drives, and so on.

Since pmount (the original implementor of group plugdev) always mounts with
the nodev and nosuid options and applies other checks, this group is not
intended to be root-equivalent in the ways that the ability to mount
filesystems might ordinarily allow. Implementors of semantics involving
this group should be careful not to allow root-equivalence.

fonte:

/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz

O pacote ntfs-3g esta instalado para hablitar a escrita nesse tipo de
sistema de arquivo? Agora não me lembro, mas eu acho que tem que
configurar o policykit tb, lembro que quebrei a cabeça com essas
coisas que o gnome fazia por debaixo do pano depois que me livrei
dele...

RTMF[1]

[1]
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Re: problema ao montar hd externo

2013-01-03 Thread Rodolfo
Eu nao uso o Wheezy, mas a mensagem de erro é sobre a permissao de usar o
comando mount, e na epoca que eu mexia nesses arquivos, tinha um grupo
chamado mount, ou algo parecido, na verdade nem lembro hehehehe.


Abracos.

2013/1/3 P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com

 Em 03/01/13, Rodolforof20...@gmail.com escreveu:
  mount: operação exclusiva de root
 
 
  Seu usuariio nao tem permissao para usar o comando mount.
 
  Adicione seu usuario ao grupo mount:

 Não existe esse grupo pelo menos na versão Wheezy do debian que estou
 usando, o grupo não seria esse?

 plugdev

 Members of this group can access removable devices in limited ways
 without
 explicit configuration in /etc/fstab. This is useful for local users
 who
 expect to be able to insert and use CDs, USB drives, and so on.

 Since pmount (the original implementor of group plugdev) always mounts
 with
 the nodev and nosuid options and applies other checks, this group is
 not
 intended to be root-equivalent in the ways that the ability to mount
 filesystems might ordinarily allow. Implementors of semantics involving
 this group should be careful not to allow root-equivalence.

 fonte:

 /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz

 O pacote ntfs-3g esta instalado para hablitar a escrita nesse tipo de
 sistema de arquivo? Agora não me lembro, mas eu acho que tem que
 configurar o policykit tb, lembro que quebrei a cabeça com essas
 coisas que o gnome fazia por debaixo do pano depois que me livrei
 dele...

 RTMF[1]

 [1]
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Re: problema ao montar hd externo

2013-01-03 Thread Rodolfo
Ia me esquecendo, essa operacao de mount ser somente para o root é algo
muito aceitavel no aspecto de seguranca, eu particularmente nunca tive
problemas com esse tipo de coisa, porque eu nunca deleguei nada de especial
a usuario nenhum, nem o meu. Sempre deixei tudo nas maos do root. Quando
quero montar qualquer coisa,   eu uso # su -c mount tra la  la la e
depois desmonto. Eu uso blackbox, nao sei o que é automount, vo tudo na
tela preta mermo.

Em 3 de janeiro de 2013 09:05, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Eu nao uso o Wheezy, mas a mensagem de erro é sobre a permissao de usar o
 comando mount, e na epoca que eu mexia nesses arquivos, tinha um grupo
 chamado mount, ou algo parecido, na verdade nem lembro hehehehe.


 Abracos.

 2013/1/3 P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com

 Em 03/01/13, Rodolforof20...@gmail.com escreveu:
  mount: operação exclusiva de root
 
 
  Seu usuariio nao tem permissao para usar o comando mount.
 
  Adicione seu usuario ao grupo mount:

 Não existe esse grupo pelo menos na versão Wheezy do debian que estou
 usando, o grupo não seria esse?

 plugdev

 Members of this group can access removable devices in limited ways
 without
 explicit configuration in /etc/fstab. This is useful for local users
 who
 expect to be able to insert and use CDs, USB drives, and so on.

 Since pmount (the original implementor of group plugdev) always
 mounts with
 the nodev and nosuid options and applies other checks, this group is
 not
 intended to be root-equivalent in the ways that the ability to mount
 filesystems might ordinarily allow. Implementors of semantics
 involving
 this group should be careful not to allow root-equivalence.

 fonte:

 /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz

 O pacote ntfs-3g esta instalado para hablitar a escrita nesse tipo de
 sistema de arquivo? Agora não me lembro, mas eu acho que tem que
 configurar o policykit tb, lembro que quebrei a cabeça com essas
 coisas que o gnome fazia por debaixo do pano depois que me livrei
 dele...

 RTMF[1]

 [1]
 Nada pessoal, só para descontrair relembrando os velhos tempos.

 =-D

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Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Collin
Ola Galera,

Preciso bloquear o facebook pelo protocolo https (443) aqui na empresa,
possuo proxy transparente mas acredito que a melhor solucao seria atraves
do Firewall.
Nao posso bloquear o protocolo https pois usamos sites de banco e outros
que usam o mesmo protocolo.
Lembrando que preciso de uma lista branca para diretores e outros que
possam acessar o face.

Alguem ai ja passou pro isso? ou pode me dar uma luz por onde começar.

desde ja agradeco
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RE: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread CássioElias .

Bloquear pelo endereço ip do facebook não dá certo?ou a range do facebook !?
 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:07:31 -0200
Subject: Bloquear Facebook https
From: maurocol...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org

Ola Galera,
Preciso bloquear o facebook pelo protocolo https (443) aqui na empresa, possuo 
proxy transparente mas acredito que a melhor solucao seria atraves do 
Firewall.Nao posso bloquear o protocolo https pois usamos sites de banco e 
outros que usam o mesmo protocolo.
Lembrando que preciso de uma lista branca para diretores e outros que possam 
acessar o face.
Alguem ai ja passou pro isso? ou pode me dar uma luz por onde começar.

desde ja agradeco-- 
Att.
Mauro Collin.
Analista de Suporte Técnico.TI-Infraestrutura.


  

Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Fabiano Machado Dias

E aí,

O SquidGuard resolve o seu problema.

Aqui tem um tutorial explicando o uso:

http://www.hardware.com.br/livros/servidores-linux/usando-squidguard-para-bloquear-paginas-improprias.html

Att,
Fabiano

Em 03-01-2013 13:07, Mauro Collin escreveu:

Ola Galera,

Preciso bloquear o facebook pelo protocolo https (443) aqui na 
empresa, possuo proxy transparente mas acredito que a melhor solucao 
seria atraves do Firewall.
Nao posso bloquear o protocolo https pois usamos sites de banco e 
outros que usam o mesmo protocolo.
Lembrando que preciso de uma lista branca para diretores e outros 
que possam acessar o face.


Alguem ai ja passou pro isso? ou pode me dar uma luz por onde começar.

desde ja agradeco
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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Adiel de Lima Ribeiro
Olá, utilize o squid com o url_regex, daí tu coloca a palavra facebook,
é bem eficiente. 
Dá para fazer pelo iptables também, bloqueando strings que contenham
facebook, mas usando ele não é a maneira mais correta para isso.
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On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 13:07 -0200, Mauro Collin wrote:
 Ola Galera,
 
 
 Preciso bloquear o facebook pelo protocolo https (443) aqui na
 empresa, possuo proxy transparente mas acredito que a melhor solucao
 seria atraves do Firewall.
 Nao posso bloquear o protocolo https pois usamos sites de banco e
 outros que usam o mesmo protocolo.
 Lembrando que preciso de uma lista branca para diretores e outros
 que possam acessar o face.
 
 
 Alguem ai ja passou pro isso? ou pode me dar uma luz por onde começar.
 
 
 desde ja agradeco
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Res: Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread jmhenrique
Se voce usa proxy transparente, a única solução eh bloquear no firewall. Com 
isso, manter 2 listas de bloqueio, uma no squid e a outra no firewall. 

Sim, eh exatamente o que parece q você NÃO quer fazer: administrar 2 listas em 
2 locais diferentes. 
 
Quando a estrutura se torna mais complexa, ou você parte para gpo em ambiente 
windows, ou você parte pro wpad em ambiente geral. Gpo e wpad são o que 
poderíamos falar como proxy transparente feito decentemente. Tem no google 
maiores exemplos (você so queria uma luz). Tem alguns impactos e restrições, 
mas no geral escala bem e o resultado eh excelente do ponto de vista da 
segurança e controle. 

Proxy transparente via firewall eh ótimo pra soluções caseiras, ou pequenas ou 
amadoras, e exige um maior trabalho. E só. 

Depois q você implementar wpad ou gpo (ou ambos), dai você pode incrementar o 
seu squid como bem quiser com  squidguard, dansguardian, urlfilterdb, tralalá. 

Abracos, 
Henry. 

Enviado pelo meu aparelho BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Fabiano Machado Dias fabi...@wolaksistemas.com.br
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 13:52:14 
To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bloquear Facebook https

E aí,

O SquidGuard resolve o seu problema.

Aqui tem um tutorial explicando o uso:

http://www.hardware.com.br/livros/servidores-linux/usando-squidguard-para-bloquear-paginas-improprias.html

Att,
Fabiano

Em 03-01-2013 13:07, Mauro Collin escreveu:
 Ola Galera,

 Preciso bloquear o facebook pelo protocolo https (443) aqui na 
 empresa, possuo proxy transparente mas acredito que a melhor solucao 
 seria atraves do Firewall.
 Nao posso bloquear o protocolo https pois usamos sites de banco e 
 outros que usam o mesmo protocolo.
 Lembrando que preciso de uma lista branca para diretores e outros 
 que possam acessar o face.

 Alguem ai ja passou pro isso? ou pode me dar uma luz por onde começar.

 desde ja agradeco
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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Linux - Junior Polegato

Em 03-01-2013 15:26, Mauro Collin escreveu:

Valeu Galera,
Saí pra almoçar e quando voltei, varias soluções.!!! mas vamos ao que 
interessa:

Adiel:
já implementei sua solução mas os usuarios colocam https na barra de 
endereço do navegador para entrar no facebook, o squid nao esta 
tratando o trafego https, sabe como devo tratar o trafego https ou 
algum manual?.
O bloqueio de palavra acredito nao ser eficiente pois varios sites 
fazem referencia ao facebook no seu conteudo e os mesmos seriam 
bloqueados sem necessidade.
Sei que poderia bloquear no firewall a porta https, mas teria 
problemas com os sites de banco e demais.
alem disso tudo, preciso de uma lista branca dos IPs que poderão 
acessar o face

Mais alguma ideia?
Obrigado.


Olá!

Eu bloqueio pelo IP dos sites que não podem ser acessados, mas 
restrinjo o DNS (porta 53), obrigando a rede a usar apenas o meu 
DNS-cache. Assim sei quando o IP de um terminado domínio irá ser 
renovado e então atualizo esse IP no iptatles.


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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Leonardo Carneiro
Mesmo com essa lista, te garanto que em pouco tempo teus usuários vão
conseguir acessar de novo. Os IPs do fb (assim como de outros grandes
portais) não é estática. Invariavelmente os FB começa a responder por
outros IPs (isso não é publicamente divulgado) e lá vai vc correr atras de
forum, mailing lists e coisas assim pra descobrir qual é o IP novo do FB.


Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread P. J.
Oi,

Concordo com o pessoal que é contrário a bloquear por ip, a range dele
muda muito...

Em 3 de janeiro de 2013 15:37, Leonardo Carneiro
chesterma...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Mesmo com essa lista, te garanto que em pouco tempo teus usuários vão
 conseguir acessar de novo. Os IPs do fb (assim como de outros grandes
 portais) não é estática. Invariavelmente os FB começa a responder por outros
 IPs (isso não é publicamente divulgado) e lá vai vc correr atras de forum,
 mailing lists e coisas assim pra descobrir qual é o IP novo do FB.



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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Leonardo Carneiro
Soluções possíveis e eficazes com transparência para o usuário:

   - SSL_BUMP: vai possibilitar filtrar o trafego https mesmo com o squid
   transparente. provavelmente vai te render uma dor de cabeça com erro de
   certificados em alguns sites
  - http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslBump
   - WPAD: vai automatizar a configuração do proxy no cliente, fazendo com
   que o tráfego HTTPS seja direcionado para o proxy desde o cliente, sem
   necessidade de redirect no firewall
  - http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Technology/WPAD
  - GP: não manjo mto, mas acho que nesta situação tem função análoga a
   do WPAD, só que a configuração automática vai ser por regras de group
   policy vindas do AD. Somente para ambientes windows.
  -
  
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/5156.how-to-force-proxy-settings-via-group-policy.aspx

Usando squid e tendo transparência (transparente do ponto de vista do
usuário, não da rede), acho que essas são as soluções que são eficazes. Em
todas essas, o trafego vai passar pelo squid que vai realizar o bloqueio
por url. Desconheço outra maneira de fazer esse bloqueio usando squid de
maneira transparente para o usuário.


2013/1/3 P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com

 Oi,

 Concordo com o pessoal que é contrário a bloquear por ip, a range dele
 muda muito...

 Em 3 de janeiro de 2013 15:37, Leonardo Carneiro
 chesterma...@gmail.com escreveu:
  Mesmo com essa lista, te garanto que em pouco tempo teus usuários vão
  conseguir acessar de novo. Os IPs do fb (assim como de outros grandes
  portais) não é estática. Invariavelmente os FB começa a responder por
 outros
  IPs (isso não é publicamente divulgado) e lá vai vc correr atras de
 forum,
  mailing lists e coisas assim pra descobrir qual é o IP novo do FB.



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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Adiel de Lima Ribeiro
Agora me surgiu uma dúvida, eu falei sobre você utilizar o url_regex,
ele não funciona, ok.
Mas e se você utilizar o dstdom no squid, mesmo assim colocando o https
o tráfego passa ? 
Eu resolvi isso com o iptables em uma rede que administrei, ao invez de
colocar apenas facebook na string, coloque facebook.com, e daí veja que
se está bloqueando tráfego legítimo que contenha essa string, que
acredito que possa ser pouco. Daí você terá que ter um range de ips
liberados e outro de bloqueados.
-- 
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facebook.com/sembr.dyndns.info



On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 15:26 -0200, Mauro Collin wrote:
 Valeu Galera,
 Saí pra almoçar e quando voltei, varias soluções.!!! mas vamos ao que
 interessa:
 
 
 
 Adiel:
 já implementei sua solução mas os usuarios colocam https na barra de
 endereço do navegador para entrar no facebook, o squid nao esta
 tratando o trafego https, sabe como devo tratar o trafego https ou
 algum manual?.
 O bloqueio de palavra acredito nao ser eficiente pois varios sites
 fazem referencia ao facebook no seu conteudo e os mesmos seriam
 bloqueados sem necessidade.
 Sei que poderia bloquear no firewall a porta https, mas teria
 problemas com os sites de banco e demais.
 alem disso tudo, preciso de uma lista branca dos IPs que poderão
 acessar o face
 
 
 Mais alguma ideia?
 
 
 Obrigado.
 
 Em 3 de janeiro de 2013 14:39, China china.lis...@gmail.com
 escreveu:
 +1 pro wpad. Soluções baseadas em strings degradam a
 performance da
 rede e consomem mais máquina, além de ser uma solução burra
 por
 bloquear sites legitmos só por terem trechos das strings em
 seus
 nomes.
 
 Em 3 de janeiro de 2013 14:15, Leonardo Carneiro
 chesterma...@gmail.com escreveu:
  Mauro, a não ser que eu esteja redondamente enganado, a
 única maneira de vc
  fazer isso com proxy transparente é usando uma função do
 squid (tem nas
  versões mais recentes) chamada SSL_BUMP, na qual vc usa um
 certificado para
  fazer todo o tráfego, inclusive o HTTPS passar pelo proxy
 transparente.
 
  Uma solução mais eficiente, que oferece um certo nível de
 transparência é
  usar o WPAD. Com ele, o proxy não vai ser transparente, mas
 vai ser
  configurado automaticamente para o usuário, o que na maioria
 das vezes é bom
  o suficiente.
 
  Soluções baseadas em strings ou ranges no iptables
 geralmente são mto
  custosas e/ou ineficientes. Os ips do facebook não são
 sempre os mesmos e
  processar as strings no iptables é custoso (cpu) e nem
 sempre funciona como
  o esperado.
 
 
  2013/1/3 Adiel de Lima Ribeiro adiel.netad...@gmail.com
 
  Olá, utilize o squid com o url_regex, daí tu coloca a
 palavra facebook,
  é bem eficiente.
  Dá para fazer pelo iptables também, bloqueando strings que
 contenham
  facebook, mas usando ele não é a maneira mais correta para
 isso.
  --
  att,
  Adiel de Lima Ribeiro
  facebook.com/sembr.dyndns.info
 
 
 
  On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 13:07 -0200, Mauro Collin wrote:
   Ola Galera,
  
  
   Preciso bloquear o facebook pelo protocolo https (443)
 aqui na
   empresa, possuo proxy transparente mas acredito que a
 melhor solucao
   seria atraves do Firewall.
   Nao posso bloquear o protocolo https pois usamos sites de
 banco e
   outros que usam o mesmo protocolo.
   Lembrando que preciso de uma lista branca para
 diretores e outros
   que possam acessar o face.
  
  
   Alguem ai ja passou pro isso? ou pode me dar uma luz por
 onde começar.
  
  
   desde ja agradeco
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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Collin
Leonardo,

Obrigado pelas dicas, são de grande valia. Vou dar uma estudada na
tecnologia pois ainda nao estou muito a vontade no squid.
Devido a urgencia da solicitação, vou implementar a principio no firewall e
depois migrar a solução para o squid.(recomendação da empresa).

Agradeço a todos que dedicaram seu tempo postando soluções, essa lista é o
melhor suporte do mundo. ;/)

Se quiserem continuar postando fiquem a vontade estou aberto a sugestões.

Abs.

Em 3 de janeiro de 2013 16:54, Leonardo Carneiro
chesterma...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Soluções possíveis e eficazes com transparência para o usuário:

- SSL_BUMP: vai possibilitar filtrar o trafego https mesmo com o squid
transparente. provavelmente vai te render uma dor de cabeça com erro de
certificados em alguns sites
   - http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslBump
- WPAD: vai automatizar a configuração do proxy no cliente, fazendo
com que o tráfego HTTPS seja direcionado para o proxy desde o cliente, sem
necessidade de redirect no firewall
   - http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Technology/WPAD
   - GP: não manjo mto, mas acho que nesta situação tem função análoga
a do WPAD, só que a configuração automática vai ser por regras de group
policy vindas do AD. Somente para ambientes windows.
   -
   
 http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/5156.how-to-force-proxy-settings-via-group-policy.aspx

 Usando squid e tendo transparência (transparente do ponto de vista do
 usuário, não da rede), acho que essas são as soluções que são eficazes. Em
 todas essas, o trafego vai passar pelo squid que vai realizar o bloqueio
 por url. Desconheço outra maneira de fazer esse bloqueio usando squid de
 maneira transparente para o usuário.


 2013/1/3 P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com

 Oi,

 Concordo com o pessoal que é contrário a bloquear por ip, a range dele
 muda muito...

 Em 3 de janeiro de 2013 15:37, Leonardo Carneiro
 chesterma...@gmail.com escreveu:
  Mesmo com essa lista, te garanto que em pouco tempo teus usuários vão
  conseguir acessar de novo. Os IPs do fb (assim como de outros grandes
  portais) não é estática. Invariavelmente os FB começa a responder por
 outros
  IPs (isso não é publicamente divulgado) e lá vai vc correr atras de
 forum,
  mailing lists e coisas assim pra descobrir qual é o IP novo do FB.



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[Dica] Disponibilizando Filtro para o Synaptic

2013-01-03 Thread Robson Dantas
Não sei se aqui na lista alguém já usou o Ubuntu, já viu que o Synaptic 
do Ubuntu tem uma caixa de texto onde você pode filtrar e fazer uma 
pesquisa melhor?
Tá, tá!!! O Synaptic quando instalado no Debian também tem, basta dar 
Ctrl+F ou clicar no botão da barra de ferramentas, na janelinha que se 
abre você digita o que quer e manda ver Mas não me referi a fazer 
uma busca, eu digo em filtrar e buscar apenas digitando na caixa.
O engraçado é que, no Synaptic instalado no Debian tem até o espaço 
dessa caixa de texto, mostrando que alguma coisa falta na barra de 
ferramenta dele. Já fiz de tudo para tentar mostrar essa caixa de texto, 
vi até na internet algumas pessoas falarem que se trata de versões do 
Synaptic. Nada disso, é muito simples, basta fazer o seguinte:


Se não tiver o sudo ativado, entre como administrador.

Feche o Synaptic;

sudo apt-get install apt-xapian-index
sudo update-apt-xapian-index -vf

Abra o Synaptic, vai ver que a caixa vai estar lá junto ao botão Localizar.

É isso aí, deixarei registrado aqui para quem quiser (até eu mesmo ao 
formatar o pc) um dia usar.








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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Linux - Junior Polegato

Em 03-01-2013 15:45, Linux - Junior Polegato escreveu:

Em 03-01-2013 15:26, Mauro Collin escreveu:

Valeu Galera,
Saí pra almoçar e quando voltei, varias soluções.!!! mas vamos ao que 
interessa:

Adiel:
já implementei sua solução mas os usuarios colocam https na barra 
de endereço do navegador para entrar no facebook, o squid nao esta 
tratando o trafego https, sabe como devo tratar o trafego https ou 
algum manual?.
O bloqueio de palavra acredito nao ser eficiente pois varios sites 
fazem referencia ao facebook no seu conteudo e os mesmos seriam 
bloqueados sem necessidade.
Sei que poderia bloquear no firewall a porta https, mas teria 
problemas com os sites de banco e demais.
alem disso tudo, preciso de uma lista branca dos IPs que poderão 
acessar o face

Mais alguma ideia?
Obrigado.
Eu bloqueio pelo IP dos sites que não podem ser acessados, mas 
restrinjo o DNS (porta 53), obrigando a rede a usar apenas o meu 
DNS-cache. Assim sei quando o IP de um terminado domínio irá ser 
renovado e então atualizo esse IP no iptatles.


Minha dica:

#!/bin/bash

IPS_REDE_LIBERADOS='192.168.1.100 192.168.1.105 192.168.1.106'
iptables -N FACE_BLOQUEADO
iptables -N FACE_LIBERADO
for IP in $IPS_REDE_LIBERADOS; do
iptables -A FORWARD -s $IP -j FACE_LIBERADO
done
iptables -A FORWARD -j FACE_BLOQUEADO
while true; do
IPS_FACE=`dig facebook.com facebook.com.br www.facebook.com 
www.facebook.com.br m.facebook.com m.facebook.com.br +short|grep 
'^[0-9.]\+$'`

iptables -F FACE_LIBERADO
iptables -F FACE_BLOQUEADO
for IP in $IPS_FACE; do
iptables -A FACE_LIBERADO -d $IP -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FACE_BLOQUEADO -d $IP -j REJECT
done
sleep 30
done 

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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Collin
Ok. Robson Dantas.

Muitas soluções já foram sugeridas, a do Junior Polegato parece bem
interessante. Uns sugerem pelo firewall outros pelo squid,
pelo firewall talvez eu teria um retrabalho de verificar de tempos em
tempos os IPs do FB. Pelo Squid parece ser mais correto,
mais ainda nao estou 100% seguro em aplicar (por falta de conhecimento
mesmo).

Junior Polegato

Sua solução vai bloquear https ? poderia dar uma pequena explicação?
ainda estou meio verde no iptables.

Abs


Em 3 de janeiro de 2013 17:42, Linux - Junior Polegato 
li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu:

 Em 03-01-2013 15:45, Linux - Junior Polegato escreveu:

 Em 03-01-2013 15:26, Mauro Collin escreveu:

 Valeu Galera,
 Saí pra almoçar e quando voltei, varias soluções.!!! mas vamos ao que
 interessa:
 Adiel:
 já implementei sua solução mas os usuarios colocam https na barra de
 endereço do navegador para entrar no facebook, o squid nao esta tratando o
 trafego https, sabe como devo tratar o trafego https ou algum manual?.
 O bloqueio de palavra acredito nao ser eficiente pois varios sites fazem
 referencia ao facebook no seu conteudo e os mesmos seriam bloqueados sem
 necessidade.
 Sei que poderia bloquear no firewall a porta https, mas teria problemas
 com os sites de banco e demais.
 alem disso tudo, preciso de uma lista branca dos IPs que poderão
 acessar o face
 Mais alguma ideia?
 Obrigado.

 Eu bloqueio pelo IP dos sites que não podem ser acessados, mas
 restrinjo o DNS (porta 53), obrigando a rede a usar apenas o meu DNS-cache.
 Assim sei quando o IP de um terminado domínio irá ser renovado e então
 atualizo esse IP no iptatles.


 Minha dica:

 #!/bin/bash

 IPS_REDE_LIBERADOS='192.168.1.100 192.168.1.105 192.168.1.106'
 iptables -N FACE_BLOQUEADO
 iptables -N FACE_LIBERADO
 for IP in $IPS_REDE_LIBERADOS; do
 iptables -A FORWARD -s $IP -j FACE_LIBERADO
 done
 iptables -A FORWARD -j FACE_BLOQUEADO
 while true; do
 IPS_FACE=`dig facebook.com facebook.com.br www.facebook.com
 www.facebook.com.br m.facebook.com m.facebook.com.br +short|grep
 '^[0-9.]\+$'`
 iptables -F FACE_LIBERADO
 iptables -F FACE_BLOQUEADO
 for IP in $IPS_FACE; do
 iptables -A FACE_LIBERADO -d $IP -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A FACE_BLOQUEADO -d $IP -j REJECT
 done
 sleep 30
 done 


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Re: Bloquear Facebook https

2013-01-03 Thread Linux - Junior Polegato

Em 03-01-2013 17:56, Mauro Collin escreveu:

Junior Polegato
Sua solução vai bloquear https ? poderia dar uma pequena explicação? 
ainda estou meio verde no iptables.


Olá!

No caso vai bloquear todo o tráfego para os IPs do Facebook que 
atualmente seu DNS está resolvendo. Veja que precisa colocar as regras 
abaixo para não deixar a rede usar outro DNS:


iptables -A FORWARD -p udp --dport 53 -j REJECT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 53 -j REJECT

O dig domínios +short|grep ... vai me dar a lista de IPs 
que atualmente o seu DNS está provendo para a rede quando pedirem por um 
dos domínios do facebook. Com essa lista em mãos, eu limpo e alimento a 
chains FACE_LIBERADO e FACE_BLOQUEADO, isso a cada 30 segundos. Outra 
alternativa seria em vez de limpar, verificar se está na lista, se não 
estiver, adiciona, assim terá um pelo repertório de IPs do Facebook 
sendo bloqueados por completo.


Para liberar ou bloquear o acesso, criei basta colocar os IPs 
liberados na lista e o restante será bloqueado.


[]'s
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Re: problema ao montar hd externo

2013-01-03 Thread P. J.
Oi,

Em 03/01/13, Luiz L. Marinsluizlmar...@globomail.com escreveu:
 PJ,

 Instale o /disk-manager/ (ou mountmanager).

 Veja pelo aptitude search qual está disponpível.

Vlw pela dica, já usei essa coisas e não gostei, tipo... a uma dica tb
eh botar um comando no gerenciador de arquivos, ainda nao tive tempo
de configurar do jeito correto q seria pedindo a senha de root... como
por exemplo fazem o nautilus+gnome... enfim acho que o pessoal quer é
isso... q qnd os dispositivos forem listados nos filemanagers tenham
permissões ou peçam senhas ao clicar no icone para montá-los



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Re: Problem Mounting USB Stick in Debian Wheezy

2013-01-03 Thread Slavko
Hi,

Dňa Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:23:14 +1100 Igor Cicimov icici...@gmail.com
napísal:

 Also +1, if you need USB support you need to download VBox version
 from VBox site. Also don't forget to add the user who's running the
 VBox on the *host* pc to the vboxusers group*.

Although i don't read whole thread, you are not right with USB support
in the VBox and downloading the official VBox. The two different VBox
versions are not shipped a long time ago (perhaps after Sun - Oracle
change). Of course, download the VBox from Oracle site will work, but
it is nod needed. Only Extension pack download is needed.

I am using the Debian's VirtualBox package (4.1.18) with Oracle VM
Extension Pack installed in it and the USB in virtual machines works.
With one small problem, but this can be caused by my old settings
(something with filters) - my settings are used from VBox 2.x version.

There is no needing to download (and install) new version of the
Extension pack for ever new VBox version. Although i have the
equivalent versions now, i am not updating the Extension pack regularly.

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RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Mark Allums
 From: Bonno Bloksma [mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl]
 To: Patrick Bartek; debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Hi Patrick,
 
  In preparation of a clean install of Wheezy, I did a test install in
VirtualBox
 3.1.8 running under  Fedora 12 64-bit.
  To save time, I used the installer's default partitioning scheme.
 Normally I
 custom partition.
  Anyway, I noticed an oddity:  There are gaps between the
 partitions.  Sizable ones.
  Plus, sda1 starts at 2048, not 1.  I don't know if this is due to the
installer
 partitioner or a quirk in VirtualBox.
  I noticed this on a VB install of Debian 6, too, on the same
 system.  Anybody got any ideas on the why?  Wasn't able to find anything
 applicable on net searches.
 
 The only reason I can think about is the new requirement for partitioning
 on 4k boundaries due to new harddrive specs. Harddrives used to be broken
 up in 512b blocks, they are now chopped up in 4k blocks. I read a good
 article the other day explaining the performance hits if the OS does not
 properly allign the partition boundaries to the new 'Advanced Format' 4k
 boundaries. Unfortunately that was in a paper magazine so I cannot refer
to
 it here. But have a look at
 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/advanced-format-4k-sector-size-
 hard-drive,2759.html and look in Wikipedia for more info.
 
 Bonno Bloksma


If you are using LVM, you need to leave 1MB before and after the partition
for metadata.  Some of the tools do this automatically for you.  If you
don't like it, you can manually adjust the start and end yourself.






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Re: [OT] I wish to have a mentor

2013-01-03 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, lina, again.


You wrote:

 Indeed, golden time ...

You do agree w/ You! :o)
 
 BTW, your message is encouraging.

Oh!
 
 Last night since I posted I couldn't help following up.
 Hours later I started to realize something, not some epiphany, but
 something like I should take more initiative in doing it even many
 times it's used to be the detour that I pick.
 
 Frankly speaking, I feel annoyed about myself among abundant road
 information still hard to pick the right way.

I have noticed the very same thing - when I did search for the info I
desired. - I wanted to package a sound software that I use, that is in
DMO but not in Debian. So I sought for info on how to package at the
first - the thing I never did, and I thought I had to join to
multimedia team in order that my packages might be uploaded and
therefore used by others.

By the way of my searching I have found that there is no single
documents that helps me w/ packaging, at least I have found 2
eventually - one speaking about packaging, another - about the way how
the software is inserted into Debian project - i.e. git.

Also, I have found that I have no need to become a member of a team -
there are sponsors/mentors - still mix up these terms - that can upload
those packages for me.

In short, let not this poorly organized documentation - for a new
maintainer - will not discourage You. It is possible that the things
will not go w/ the speed You desired them, yet it is possible and worth
of doing. Also things can be hard at the first, then it will be much
easier as You/me get habit w/ them. Finally, we can organize the
documentation for future maintainer generations - once we have doen
our own home work.

Have a good time!


Sthu.


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Pidgin makes noise

2013-01-03 Thread Thore

Hello,
my Pidgin is making noise (not Pidgin directly but it's an error in Pidgin)
Everythyme when I try to get back and reached the start oft the text the 
system is making a terrible noise. The system Speaker (not the normal 
speaker) it makes beep.

Very loud.
The same happens when I get in the other direction or remove the typed text.
How can I configure pidgin not to do this anymore. I didn't found it.

Regards
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Re: [OT] I wish to have a mentor

2013-01-03 Thread Richard Owlett

lina wrote:

Hi,

I wish to have a mentor.

Know something basic about perl, python, bash and C.

wish to learn more.

Every time go through the wnpp-alert, don't know which one to pick and
just put them aside.

really wish to be involved in some projects, I have some considerable
free time.

Thanks ahead for suggestions,

Best regards,



May I repeat some advice I recently received on this this 
list - consider contributing to Debian documentation
[http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp or 
http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals]. What we have to 
offer is an outsider's viewpoint.


I.E. things which appear obvious to experts aren't 
necessarily so.




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Re (2): Running vlc from another machine.

2013-01-03 Thread peasthope
From:   Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com
Date:   Tue, 1 Jan 2013 15:48:11 -0700
 I recommend looking at the vlc network streaming interface.

Will do.  Thanks.

My intention was to add sound interpretation capability to my 
task server,  http://142.103.107.138/NetworksPage.html#incron;,
with this case.
*.WAV ) DISPLAY=:0 vlc file:///home/peter/$1 ;;
Or this.
*.WAV ) cvlc file:///home/peter/$1 ;;
(Still haven't found any explanation of cvlc.)

The iceweasel cases work with no problem; but any WAV 
plays endlessly and appears to keep a process for each 
interpretation.  

According to the incron documentation, IN_CLOSE_WRITE 
is the trigger for a file being written.  vlc shouldn't 
need to write the file; it should only be read.  So how 
are vlc processes after the first started? Any ideas 
are welcome.

 Regards,... Peter E.
  




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logcheck and bug #657641

2013-01-03 Thread Sharon Kimble
I am seeing lots of emails like this from logcheck '/usr/sbin/logcheck:
line 100: kill: (10554) - No such process' which is bug  #657641, and there
is a patch provided. How do I apply that patch please to my 'logcheck' in
wheezy please?

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Percentage noted by network manager.

2013-01-03 Thread peasthope
Network Nanager gives a que such as Wireless network 
connection 'ubcsecure' active: ubcsecure (66%).

No mention of the percentage in 
http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#Documentation ,
http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/users/
or https://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager .
I'll guess it is a fraction of bytes or packets transmitted 
without retransmission.  From what I've read of TCP 
this success rate will be available for data sent 
but not for data received. 

Any enlightment?  Any one noticed the percentage 
in a document?

Thanks, ... Peter E.



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Re: logcheck and bug #657641

2013-01-03 Thread Brian
On Thu 03 Jan 2013 at 17:27:56 +, Sharon Kimble wrote:

 I am seeing lots of emails like this from logcheck '/usr/sbin/logcheck:
 line 100: kill: (10554) - No such process' which is bug  #657641, and there
 is a patch provided. How do I apply that patch please to my 'logcheck' in
 wheezy please?

Open /sbin/logcheck in an editor. Find

if [ -n $LOCK ]; then
debug cleanup: Killing lockfile-touch - $LOCK
kill $LOCK  unset LOCK
fi

Replace the third line with

kill -0 $LOCK  kill $LOCK  unset LOCK


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Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek




- Original Message -
 From: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity
 
 --- On Wed, 1/2/13, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  As I said in my original query, this partitioning was done
  automatically by the Wheezy installer.  I would have never
  partitioned that way myself.  Besides this is just a test
  install to root out any problems for when I do the real one
  on a real hard drive.
 
 
 
 FWIW, the wheezy installer created the same partitioning scheme on a hard 
 drive 
 install the first time I gave wheezy a run.  I found that rather odd and a 
 good 
 reason to manually partition the drive prior to installing wheezy in the 
 future.  I usually do that but was being a bit lazy this one time.  ;)


Thanks.  Now, I know it's not just my install or a quirk in VirtualBox.  It's 
the installer.

Since my original post, I've been reading up on GPT.  Based on that, plus what 
others have posted here, it seems the cause of the gaps is a combination of 
aligning partitions based 4096 byte sectors, regardless of whether they are 
that size, and LVM needing unpartitioned space between partitions for metadata 
whether you're using LVM or not.  Mostly, the latter, I think.

Like you, for the real install, I'll just manually partition.  Gap, LVM and GPT 
problems solved.

B


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Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek




- Original Message -
 From: Bonno Bloksma b.blok...@tio.nl
 To: Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org 
 debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:04 PM
 Subject: RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity
 
 Hi Patrick,
 
  In preparation of a clean install of Wheezy, I did a test install in 
 VirtualBox 3.1.8 running under  Fedora 12 64-bit. 
  To save time, I used the installer's default partitioning scheme. 
  Normally I custom partition.
  Anyway, I noticed an oddity:  There are gaps between the partitions. 
  Sizable ones.
  Plus, sda1 starts at 2048, not 1.  I don't know if this is due to the 
 installer partitioner or a quirk in VirtualBox.
  I noticed this on a VB install of Debian 6, too, on the same system. 
  Anybody got any ideas on the why?  Wasn't able to find anything applicable 
 on net searches.
 
 The only reason I can think about is the new requirement for partitioning on 
 4k 
 boundaries due to new harddrive specs. Harddrives used to be broken up in 
 512b 
 blocks, they are now chopped up in 4k blocks. I read a good article the other 
 day explaining the performance hits if the OS does not properly allign the 
 partition boundaries to the new 'Advanced Format' 4k boundaries. 
 Unfortunately that was in a paper magazine so I cannot refer to it here. But 
 have a look at 
 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/advanced-format-4k-sector-size-hard-drive,2759.html
  
 and look in Wikipedia for more info.


I've come across this in my research on my gap problem, too.  The 4K sector 
alignment doesn't apply to me as the hard drive I'm installing Wheezy on has 
512 byte sectors as far as I've been able to determine.  It was manufactured in 
2006 before the switch.

I think the main cause of the gaps is the Wheezy installer partitioner 
assuming' LVM will be used at some time, and is setting up the drive for that 
future use.

Thanks for the link.

B


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Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek




- Original Message -
 From: Mark Allums m...@allums.com
 To: 'Bonno Bloksma' b.blok...@tio.nl; 'Patrick Bartek' 
 bartek...@yahoo.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 4:39 AM
 Subject: RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity
 
  From: Bonno Bloksma [mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl]
  To: Patrick Bartek; debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Hi Patrick,
 
   In preparation of a clean install of Wheezy, I did a test install in
 VirtualBox
  3.1.8 running under  Fedora 12 64-bit.
   To save time, I used the installer's default partitioning scheme.
  Normally I
  custom partition.
   Anyway, I noticed an oddity:  There are gaps between the
  partitions.  Sizable ones.
   Plus, sda1 starts at 2048, not 1.  I don't know if this is due to 
 the
 installer
  partitioner or a quirk in VirtualBox.
   I noticed this on a VB install of Debian 6, too, on the same
  system.  Anybody got any ideas on the why?  Wasn't able to find 
 anything
  applicable on net searches.
 
  The only reason I can think about is the new requirement for partitioning
  on 4k boundaries due to new harddrive specs. Harddrives used to be broken
  up in 512b blocks, they are now chopped up in 4k blocks. I read a good
  article the other day explaining the performance hits if the OS does not
  properly allign the partition boundaries to the new 'Advanced 
 Format' 4k
  boundaries. Unfortunately that was in a paper magazine so I cannot refer
 to
  it here. But have a look at
  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/advanced-format-4k-sector-size-
  hard-drive,2759.html and look in Wikipedia for more info.
 
  Bonno Bloksma
 
 
 If you are using LVM, you need to leave 1MB before and after the partition
 for metadata.  Some of the tools do this automatically for you.  If you
 don't like it, you can manually adjust the start and end yourself.


I'm not, but I think the Wheezy partitioner thinks I may in the future, so, is 
setting things up for that possible future need.

B


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Re: Percentage noted by network manager.

2013-01-03 Thread Darac Marjal
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On 03/01/2013 17:42, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Network Nanager gives a que such as Wireless network connection 
 'ubcsecure' active: ubcsecure (66%).
 
 No mention of the percentage in 
 http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#Documentation , 
 http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/users/ or 
 https://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager . I'll guess it is a
 fraction of bytes or packets transmitted without retransmission.
 From what I've read of TCP this success rate will be available
 for data sent but not for data received.

This being a Wireless connection, it's more likely to be signal
strength. Typically, that will be measured in dB (which is basically a
ratio) but it's probably being normalised such that no attenuation =
100% and no signal = 0%. Don't expect to see either value as a result.

 
 Any enlightment?  Any one noticed the percentage in a document?
 
 Thanks, ... Peter E.
 
 
 

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Re: [OT] I wish to have a mentor

2013-01-03 Thread Jochen Spieker
lina:
 
 I wish to have a mentor.

http://mentors.debian.net/
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/

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Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Go Linux
--- On Thu, 1/3/13, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 12:15 PM
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
  From: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Cc: 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 5:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity
  
  --- On Wed, 1/2/13, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  
   As I said in my original query, this
 partitioning was done
   automatically by the Wheezy installer.  I
 would have never
   partitioned that way myself.  Besides this
 is just a test
   install to root out any problems for when I
 do the real one
   on a real hard drive.
  
  
  
  FWIW, the wheezy installer created the same
 partitioning scheme on a hard drive 
  install the first time I gave wheezy a run.  I found
 that rather odd and a good 
  reason to manually partition the drive prior to
 installing wheezy in the 
  future.  I usually do that but was being a bit lazy
 this one time.  ;)
 
 
 Thanks.  Now, I know it's not just my install or a quirk in
 VirtualBox.  It's the installer.
 
 Since my original post, I've been reading up on GPT.  Based
 on that, plus what others have posted here, it seems the
 cause of the gaps is a combination of aligning partitions
 based 4096 byte sectors, regardless of whether they are that
 size, and LVM needing unpartitioned space between partitions
 for metadata whether you're using LVM or not.  Mostly, the
 latter, I think.
 
 Like you, for the real install, I'll just manually
 partition.  Gap, LVM and GPT problems solved.
 
 B
 
 

Just for the record . . . that install was to an old WD 80gb drive that was 
around long before the new sector changes.


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Re: unexpected script output

2013-01-03 Thread berenger . morel

Except that I must be root to do that, it does not hurt me, so I did
not investigate further.


Give sudo a try.


I will do. But I will also find how to only give me su rights for stuff 
like networkpower, not for everything, becoming su for system 
administration reminds me to take care when my username is root (or did 
I checked the uid? I do not remember) : the username in the prompt is in 
red, while green usually.
I do not know why debian disable colors by default, they can be quite 
useful, and make terminals easier to use.



Of course, I still do not really understand the root access needed
on your physical computer but using light workarounds is ok for
me... for now.


I didn't understand these words.  But I feel there is an important
question waiting to get out of them.


Well, some features are needed root access to be used. For some of 
them, I perfectly understand why, and I do not even want to do 
workarounds: it would be stupid. (Not that I'm not, but not enough for 
some things :) )


Some examples are power management tools, like poweroff/pm-hibernate 
co. I understand why it is useful on a server with ssh connection, but 
having no alternative for desktop use as single-user computers sounds 
strange for me.
I still does not know if it is a limitation forced by kernel, or if it 
is an artificial limitation from those tools, which will only accept to 
be ran if(0==uid).


For now, using workarounds which does not involve tools remaining in 
background like dbus is fine for me, but it is highly probable that one 
day, I will find the will to look at source code where is the 
limitation, and patch it myself, for my own usage (and maybe share the 
patch if someone is interested, of course, but anyway I need to make it 
before :D )


In my opinion, those rights problems for basic actions on your own are 
one of the most annoying problems when people wants light environment 
they can tweak themselves with small and readable configuration files 
(small and readable excludes bloatwares using xml. sudo is an good 
enough workaround for me and for now.).


But it is not an important question, since most people are perfectly 
happy with policykit and sudo stuff.



Ouch!  Well.  Perhaps it is time to start shopping for a more sturdy
machine?  Some hardware seems to last forever.  Others develop
problems and must be fixed or replaced.


I know the exact problem: my hard disk is floating a little, causing 
those HD disconnections when the computer moves a little. That's not 
constructor fault, only my own :)
Using some basic tricks like putting some non-conductor stuff in holes 
would fix the problem quite fast, or simply use my electronics knowledge 
to use this computer in some robotics (with components fixed directly, 
not by using actual plastic stuff) are my favorite options :)

I'm just waiting money for the second...


You need a new device.


Well, I also have some reliable desktop computers, so I do not really 
mind if this one dies. While it does not make me looses hours of work, 
but this is not a realistic problem, since I often send my work on a git 
elsewere every time I did some good progress in autorealm source code.



I have seen it do this when
sitting on the table untouched and unmoving.  I need to shop and
replace it.  But it does this infrequently, once a month or so, and 
so

hasn't been an urgent enough problem to do yet.


Maybe you have some unwanted electronic connection because some dust of 
dunnowhat is somewhere? Try to simply open your hardware and clean it, 
before buying new, it could save you some money...
Just taking some precautions like studying images on the Internet to 
know where are small f** fragile plastic plots to avoid destroying 
them when removing plastic things will be enough.

I did not did that study :)


I do keep important data on my laptop so I do need to protect it with
data encryption.  But most importantly then I don't need to worry
about *if* I have something there.  If my laptop is stolen and it 
were

not encrypted then I would need to be very concerned about what
happened to be stored there.  It is difficult to be completely
disiplined about everything you do on the computer 100% of the time.
Even simple things like browser history is problematic.  I think it 
is
easier to implement the security of encryption at the system level 
and

then I know it adds that layer even if I make a mistake at another.


I prefer steganography instead of cryptography. If one day I want to 
use cryptography to secure some data, there will probably be some 
steganographic techniques used before, since it's harder to find data 
than to decrypt them. Decrypting is just a matter of time and computer 
power, unlike finding them. Now, just imagine the combination...


For now, just knowing that at least 95% percent of people could not use 
my computer makes me thinking that data is hidden enough. If someone 
wants to read my data, he will need to at least know 

Re: [OT] I wish to have a mentor

2013-01-03 Thread berenger . morel

Le 03.01.2013 22:05, Jochen Spieker a écrit :

Erm... I know this is perfectly out of thread but... I LOVE your 
signature :)



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Re: Pidgin makes noise

2013-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Thore wrote:
 my Pidgin is making noise (not Pidgin directly but it's an error in Pidgin)
 Everythyme when I try to get back and reached the start oft the text
 the system is making a terrible noise. The system Speaker (not the
 normal speaker) it makes beep.
 Very loud.
 The same happens when I get in the other direction or remove the typed text.
 How can I configure pidgin not to do this anymore. I didn't found it.

Two places and two different possibilities.

1. In [Tools], [Preferences], [Sounds] is the Pidgin sound
configuration option dialog.  It could be that you have a combination
of sound enabled that you don't want enabled.  I only have these
checked.  I have all others unchecked.

  [x] Message received
  [x] Message sent
  [x] You talk in chat
  [x] Others talk in chat
  [x] Attention received

2. The beep you describe sounds like the system console beep or
console bell.  Many people find that annoying but it has always been
the default console bell.  But searching for information around it and
around the Linux pcspkr kernel module will yield better information
about it.

To turn off the console bell / console beeper in X use:

  $ xset b off

This is enabled by the Linux kernel module pcspkr.  You can unload
the module from the running kernel with:

  # modprobe -r pcspkr

To prevent the kernel module pcspkr from ever being loaded you can
blacklist it by creating a file with just these contents:

File /etc/modprobe.d/pcspkr-blacklist.conf:
blacklist pcspkr

With that in place the module won't be loaded by default at boot
time.  Without that module installed then no program will be able to
access the console bell beeper (by normal means) and the beeper will
always be silent.

Bob


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Fwd: php install

2013-01-03 Thread Samuel Morgan
Please tell why php5 does not work under apache2 (with engine on)
using this index file:

HTML
  HEAD
TITLETest Page/TITLE
  /HEAD
BODY
?php
echo Hello;

--
/BODY
/HTML


all I get is the --- display.

Can you help?

Thanks.

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Date: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: php install
To: Samuel Morgan smorga...@gmail.com
Cc: ad...@db.debian.org


]] Samuel Morgan

 Please tell why php5 does not work under apache2 (with engine on)
 using this index file:

You've reached the people responsible for Debian's account
infrastructure.  You probably want to email debian-user@lists.debian.org
instead.

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Re: php install

2013-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Samuel Morgan wrote:
 Please tell why php5 does not work under apache2 (with engine on)
 using this index file:
 ...
 ?php
 echo Hello;
 

Missing the closing container marker. Put a ? in there and it
should work.  Try this file:

  ?php phpinfo(); ?

Bob


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Re: php install

2013-01-03 Thread Go Linux
--- On Thu, 1/3/13, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com
 Subject: Re: php install
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 8:22 PM
 Samuel Morgan wrote:
  Please tell why php5 does not work under apache2 (with
 engine on)
  using this index file:
  ...
  ?php
  echo Hello;
  
 
 Missing the closing container marker. Put a ? in there
 and it
 should work.  Try this file:
 
   ?php phpinfo(); ?
 
 Bob
 

Is that in a .php file or embedded in .html?  IIRC serving php in html requires 
toggling an option in the config file and my sites at least require an 
.htaccess handler to get it to work. I can post that when I get back on another 
computer if you like.


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Re: php install

2013-01-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 1/3/2013 9:31 PM, Go Linux wrote:

--- On Thu, 1/3/13, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:


From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com
Subject: Re: php install
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 8:22 PM
Samuel Morgan wrote:

Please tell why php5 does not work under apache2 (with

engine on)

using this index file:
...
?php
echo Hello;




Missing the closing container marker. Put a ? in there
and it
should work.  Try this file:

   ?php phpinfo(); ?

Bob



Is that in a .php file or embedded in .html?  IIRC serving php in html requires 
toggling an option in the config file and my sites at least require an 
.htaccess handler to get it to work. I can post that when I get back on another 
computer if you like.




Incorrect.  It does require an option in the httpd.conf file, but the 
Debian install takes care of that.  Nothing else is required to imbed 
the file.


His problem is the incorrect terminator, as Bob indicated.

And Samuel, check out the PHP manual for error message directives, 
specifically error_reporting and display_errors.  They should be enabled 
on your development system (but not a production system).


Jerry


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Re: php install

2013-01-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 1/3/2013 9:31 PM, Go Linux wrote:

--- On Thu, 1/3/13, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:


From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com
Subject: Re: php install
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 8:22 PM
Samuel Morgan wrote:

Please tell why php5 does not work under apache2 (with

engine on)

using this index file:
...
?php
echo Hello;




Missing the closing container marker. Put a ? in there
and it
should work.  Try this file:

   ?php phpinfo(); ?

Bob



Is that in a .php file or embedded in .html?  IIRC serving php in html requires 
toggling an option in the config file and my sites at least require an 
.htaccess handler to get it to work. I can post that when I get back on another 
computer if you like.




I should also add - if the php interpreter were not working, he would 
have seen the source code in his browser.



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Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek




- Original Message -
 From: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org; Patrick 
 Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity
 
 [snip]
   
   FWIW, the wheezy installer created the same
  partitioning scheme on a hard drive 
   install the first time I gave wheezy a run.  I found
  that rather odd and a good 
   reason to manually partition the drive prior to
  installing wheezy in the 
   future.  I usually do that but was being a bit lazy
  this one time.  ;)
 
 
  Thanks.  Now, I know it's not just my install or a quirk in
  VirtualBox.  It's the installer.
 
  Since my original post, I've been reading up on GPT.  Based
  on that, plus what others have posted here, it seems the
  cause of the gaps is a combination of aligning partitions
  based 4096 byte sectors, regardless of whether they are that
  size, and LVM needing unpartitioned space between partitions
  for metadata whether you're using LVM or not.  Mostly, the
  latter, I think.
 
  Like you, for the real install, I'll just manually
  partition.  Gap, LVM and GPT problems solved.
 
  B
 
 
 
 Just for the record . . . that install was to an old WD 80gb drive that was 
 around long before the new sector changes.


Mine, too.  WD 160GB purchased late 2006.  512 byte sectors.

B


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(emulatie van) i386 op x86_64

2013-01-03 Thread Geert Stappers

Beste Mensen
Beste Wensen


Geloof het of geloof het niet, er is nog software die aannames doet
over de breedte (in bits) van data structuren.

Nu ben ik dus op zoek naar een snelle emulatie van i386 op x86_64.

Mijn vraag is dan ook: Welke soort emualatie kan snel een i386 na doen?

De wens van snel betreft CPU power en disktoegang op de host.
Snel met grafisch (pixels op scherm) is hierbj niet belangrijk,
het gaat om compiler-achtige toepassing (bestand lezen, wat conversies
en wegschrijven in ander bestand)

Mijn short list is nu:

* kvm  ( die zou een '-m i386' optie hebben )
* qemu --nographic
* bochs

En mijn plan B is niet voor emulatie gaan,
maar i386 op x86_64 hardware installeren.


Graag jullie advies, tips, opmerkingen en zo.



Groeten
Geert Stappers

P.S.
Paul van der Vlis heeft gelijk: Het is _aan ons_ deze mailinglist levendig te 
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Re: (emulatie van) i386 op x86_64

2013-01-03 Thread David Hartveld
Als het om een command-line applicatie gaat met weinig dependencies: Is
ia32-libs [1] installeren en het programma 'native' uitvoeren misschien
gewoon voldoende?

Gr. David

[1] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ia32-libs


2013/1/3 Geert Stappers stapp...@stappers.nl


 Beste Mensen
 Beste Wensen


 Geloof het of geloof het niet, er is nog software die aannames doet
 over de breedte (in bits) van data structuren.

 Nu ben ik dus op zoek naar een snelle emulatie van i386 op x86_64.

 Mijn vraag is dan ook: Welke soort emualatie kan snel een i386 na doen?

 De wens van snel betreft CPU power en disktoegang op de host.
 Snel met grafisch (pixels op scherm) is hierbj niet belangrijk,
 het gaat om compiler-achtige toepassing (bestand lezen, wat conversies
 en wegschrijven in ander bestand)

 Mijn short list is nu:

 * kvm  ( die zou een '-m i386' optie hebben )
 * qemu --nographic
 * bochs

 En mijn plan B is niet voor emulatie gaan,
 maar i386 op x86_64 hardware installeren.


 Graag jullie advies, tips, opmerkingen en zo.



 Groeten
 Geert Stappers

 P.S.
 Paul van der Vlis heeft gelijk: Het is _aan ons_ deze mailinglist levendig
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Re: (emulatie van) i386 op x86_64

2013-01-03 Thread Kristof Provost
Of een i386 chroot:

sudo debootstrap --arch=i386 stable chroot-i386
sudo chroot chroot-i386 /bin/sh

Kristof

On 2013-01-03 13:50:22 (+0100), David Hartveld da...@hartveld.net wrote:
 Als het om een command-line applicatie gaat met weinig dependencies: Is
 ia32-libs [1] installeren en het programma 'native' uitvoeren misschien
 gewoon voldoende?
 
 Gr. David
 
 [1] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ia32-libs
 
 
 2013/1/3 Geert Stappers stapp...@stappers.nl
 
 
  Beste Mensen
  Beste Wensen
 
 
  Geloof het of geloof het niet, er is nog software die aannames doet
  over de breedte (in bits) van data structuren.
 
  Nu ben ik dus op zoek naar een snelle emulatie van i386 op x86_64.
 
  Mijn vraag is dan ook: Welke soort emualatie kan snel een i386 na doen?
 
  De wens van snel betreft CPU power en disktoegang op de host.
  Snel met grafisch (pixels op scherm) is hierbj niet belangrijk,
  het gaat om compiler-achtige toepassing (bestand lezen, wat conversies
  en wegschrijven in ander bestand)
 
  Mijn short list is nu:
 
  * kvm  ( die zou een '-m i386' optie hebben )
  * qemu --nographic
  * bochs
 
  En mijn plan B is niet voor emulatie gaan,
  maar i386 op x86_64 hardware installeren.
 
 
  Graag jullie advies, tips, opmerkingen en zo.
 
 
 
  Groeten
  Geert Stappers
 
  P.S.
  Paul van der Vlis heeft gelijk: Het is _aan ons_ deze mailinglist levendig
  te houden.
 
 
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Re: (emulatie van) i386 op x86_64

2013-01-03 Thread Geert Stappers
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 02:04:07PM +0100, Kristof Provost wrote:
 On 2013-01-03 13:50:22 (+0100), David Hartveld wrote:
  2013/1/3 Geert Stappers
  
   Geloof het of geloof het niet, er is nog software die aannames doet
   over de breedte (in bits) van data structuren.
  
   Nu ben ik dus op zoek naar een snelle emulatie van i386 op x86_64.
  
   Mijn vraag is dan ook: Welke soort emualatie kan snel een i386 na doen?
  
   De wens van snel betreft CPU power en disktoegang op de host.
   Snel met grafisch (pixels op scherm) is hierbj niet belangrijk,
   het gaat om compiler-achtige toepassing (bestand lezen, wat conversies
   en wegschrijven in ander bestand)
  
  } [ shortlist: kvm, qemu, bochs ]
  
  Als het om een command-line applicatie gaat met weinig dependencies: Is
  ia32-libs [1] installeren en het programma 'native' uitvoeren misschien
  gewoon voldoende?
  
  Gr. David
  
  [1] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ia32-libs

Die kende ik nog niet, dank.

  
 Of een i386 chroot:
 
 sudo debootstrap --arch=i386 stable chroot-i386
 sudo chroot chroot-i386 /bin/sh

In een chroot environment is het mij nog niet gelukt
om daar `aptitude install nog-een-package` te doen.
Op een of andere manier krijg ik daar networking niet aan de gang.


   En mijn plan B is niet voor emulatie gaan,
   maar i386 op x86_64 hardware installeren.
  
  
   Graag jullie advies, tips, opmerkingen en zo.
  
  
  
   Groeten
   Geert Stappers
  
   P.S.
   Paul van der Vlis heeft gelijk: Het is _aan ons_ deze mailinglist levendig
   te houden.


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Re: (emulatie van) i386 op x86_64

2013-01-03 Thread David Hartveld
2013/1/3 Geert Stappers stapp...@stappers.nl

 Op een of andere manier krijg ik daar networking niet aan de gang.


Kun je iets specifieker zijn dan dit? :-) Stuur even wat console output mee
s.v.p.

Wat vaak mis gaat: Je hebt in ieder geval een /etc/resolv.conf nodig (die
is misschien leeg, kun je kopiëren vanaf je oorspronkelijke root fs).


chroot networking WAS: (emulatie van) i386 op x86_64

2013-01-03 Thread Geert Stappers
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 02:28:00PM +0100, David Hartveld wrote:
 2013/1/3 Geert Stappers
 
 } In een chroot environment is het mij nog niet gelukt
 } om daar `aptitude install nog-een-package` te doen.
  Op een of andere manier krijg ik daar networking niet aan de gang.
 
 
 Kun je iets specifieker zijn dan dit? :-) Stuur even wat console output mee
 s.v.p.
 
 Wat vaak mis gaat: Je hebt in ieder geval een /etc/resolv.conf nodig (die
 is misschien leeg, kun je kopiëren vanaf je oorspronkelijke root fs).

Het bestand etc/resolv.conf bleek te ontbreken in de chroot tree.

Een kopie van /etc/resolv.conf kopieren in die tree
maakt `aptitude install nog-een-package` mogelijk  \o/

David: Dank je wel!


Groeten
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Kernel 3.8

2013-01-03 Thread Stephan Verrips
Heeft iemand onder squeeze kernel 3.8 al draaien ? Ik heb hem net draaiend 
gekregen toen ik ubuntu .deb pakketjes
tegen kwam. Ik zie geen problemen, maar misschien is ubuntu pakketjes niet aan 
te raden voor squeeze.
Als iemand dan ook debian pakketjes heeft, zou mooi zijn.

Stephan


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Re: (emulatie van) i386 op x86_64

2013-01-03 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 03-01-13 14:23, Geert Stappers schreef:
 On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 02:04:07PM +0100, Kristof Provost wrote:
 On 2013-01-03 13:50:22 (+0100), David Hartveld wrote:
 2013/1/3 Geert Stappers

 Geloof het of geloof het niet, er is nog software die aannames doet
 over de breedte (in bits) van data structuren.

 Nu ben ik dus op zoek naar een snelle emulatie van i386 op x86_64.

 Mijn vraag is dan ook: Welke soort emualatie kan snel een i386 na doen?

 De wens van snel betreft CPU power en disktoegang op de host.
 Snel met grafisch (pixels op scherm) is hierbj niet belangrijk,
 het gaat om compiler-achtige toepassing (bestand lezen, wat conversies
 en wegschrijven in ander bestand)

 } [ shortlist: kvm, qemu, bochs ]

 Als het om een command-line applicatie gaat met weinig dependencies: Is
 ia32-libs [1] installeren en het programma 'native' uitvoeren misschien
 gewoon voldoende?

 Gr. David

 [1] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ia32-libs
 
 Die kende ik nog niet, dank.

Ik vond de beschrijving op de wiki pagina over Skype erg bruikbaar, maar
dat is wel voor Wheezy:
-
# dpkg --add-architecture i386
# apt-get update
# wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
# dpkg -i skype-install.deb
# apt-get -f install
-

 Of een i386 chroot:

 sudo debootstrap --arch=i386 stable chroot-i386
 sudo chroot chroot-i386 /bin/sh
 
 In een chroot environment is het mij nog niet gelukt
 om daar `aptitude install nog-een-package` te doen.
 Op een of andere manier krijg ik daar networking niet aan de gang.

Hij gebruikt de networking van het hoofdsysteem.
/etc/network/interfaces moet leeg zijn.
/etc/resolv.conf moet uiteraard een nameserver bevatten.

 P.S.
 Paul van der Vlis heeft gelijk: Het is _aan ons_ deze mailinglist levendig
 te houden.

Ja, er zijn niet alleen antwoorden, maar ook vragen nodig ;-)

Groet,
Paul.




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Re: Kernel 3.8

2013-01-03 Thread Vincent Zweije
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:18:20PM +0100, Stephan Verrips wrote:

||  Heeft iemand onder squeeze kernel 3.8 al draaien ? Ik heb hem net draaiend
||  gekregen toen ik ubuntu .deb pakketjes tegen kwam. Ik zie geen problemen,
||  maar misschien is ubuntu pakketjes niet aan te raden voor squeeze. Als
||  iemand dan ook debian pakketjes heeft, zou mooi zijn.

Uhm... linux-3.8 is nog niet uit, die is zit net op release candidate 1,
herstel, 2, dus dat duurt nog even.

Bedoel je misschien linux-3.7? Ik heb geen ubuntu debjes geïnstalleerd,
maar de zelfgebakken kernel werkt prima.

Ciao.   Vincent.
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