Re: HS²[Re: HS - Client openvpn sur iOS/android]
Le 04/03/2013 03:07, philippe monroux a écrit : De (from) (von) no-s...@tootai.net : Pour iPhone je ne saurai répondre. pour Android il y a toujours eu (depuis au moins 3 ans 1/2) des clients OpenVPN, il fallait toutefois chrooter le smartphone. Je l'avais fait et m'étais amuser avec OpenVPN, toutefois la baisse drastique de la batterie m'a rapidement fait abandonner l'application. je me permets de rebondir sur un sujet connexe Je voudrais rooter mon samsung ace plus (sous android donc) mais toute les méthodes que je lis (et y en a un tas) sont sous W$. Y en a-t-il une sous debian ? Merci par avance Il y a le logiciel heimdall, qui permet de flasher les samsung. Les paquets suivants sont dans SID : heimdall-flash heimdall-flash-frontend Ça correspond à peut prêt au logiciel ODIN pour Windows. Théoriquement, on devrait même pouvoir flasher le Root (CF-Root par example) avec les outils standards du SDK Android : adb et fastboot. Eux aussi sont packagés dans Debian. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51346dd1.4080...@nuagelibre.org
Re: Raspberry et réseaux
Bonjour, Le dimanche 03 mars 2013 à 21:24, Bruno a écrit : Deux secondes de plus, aurai permis de voir que si ils évoquent le même problème, la solution n'à pas été trouvé ... En effet, et en y consacrant plusieurs jours, j'aurais peut-être même pu te donner la solution ! Plus sérieusement, ta question est tellement générale qu'il paraît difficile (sur une liste Debian) de te donner des pistes plus utiles que ça. En l'affinant tu obtiendras peut-être quelque chose : - que contiennent les logs quand ça ne fonctionne pas ? - que contiennent-ils quand ça fonctionne ? - que dit la commande « ifconfig -a » quand ça ne fonctionne pas ? - que dit-elle quand ça fonctionne ? - que dit la commande « route -n » quand ça ne fonctionne pas ? - que dit-elle quand ça fonctionne ? - que contient « /etc/network/interfaces » ? - il y en a sûrement d'autres… Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304100532.ga7...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
Bonjour à tous, j'utilise Debian depuis plusieurs années, j'avance à tâtons, mais jusque maintenant mon ami google avait toujours pu résoudre mes soucis, ou tout du moins répondre à mes questions. Cependant je suis confronté depuis quelques temps à un problème de réseau chez moi. Certains de mes partages samba sont visibles/accessibles aléatoirement, certaines application fonctionnent aléatoirement. la structure du réseau : - un modem/routeur/point d'accès wifi TP-LINK (TD-W8961ND) connecté en ethernet à ce routeur : - un ordinateur sous win xp(1) - un ordinateur sous debian wheezy à jour(2) connecté en wifi : - un ordinateur sous win 7(3) - un ordinateur sous debian wheezy à jour(un autre)(4) - divers ordinateurs portables/tablettes/smartphones, suivant les gens présents etc...(5) - une passerelle multimedia (boxee)(6) l'ordinateur (1) est utilisé pour certains logiciels pro bien spécifiques et est allumé assez rarement, donc peu présent sur le réseau (hors de cause je pense). l'ordinateur (3) est l'ordinateur de bureau de ma compagne, elle joue dessus, elle surfe, elle accède à des dossiers partagés, elle en partage certains aussi. l'ordinateur (4) est mon ordinateur de bureau, j'en fais un peu la même utilisation que ma compagne avec le sien. les terminaux mobiles (5) accèdent sans soucis au réseau, à Internet. La passerelle multimédia(6) accède au réseau et à Internet sans soucis. L'ordinateur (2) est plus problématique. C'est un serveur dell t300 que j'ai récupéré il y a peu, il est là pour stocker des fichiers, les mettre à disposition, faire tourner quelques applications (ssh, vnc, ftp, apache...), je l'allume au besoin, soit à la main, soit en lui envoyant un magic packet (à partir d'une tablette à travers le wifi par exemple et ça marche à tous les coups). L'utilisation : les ordinateurs sont allumés en fonction des besoins, par soucis d'économie d'énergie je ne m'amuse pas à laisser allumés les différents postes de travail h24. J'ai besoin d'accéder à tel ou tel partage, j'allume l'ordinateur qui héberge le partage en question, j'accède à ce dont j'ai besoin, et lorsque le besoin n'est plus là, j’éteins le poste en question. Les différents ordinateurs de la maison sont donc mis en réseau et sous tension de manière aléatoire, sans ordre précis. La seule chose qui reste allumée tout le temps c'est le modem/routeur. Le soucis : Il prend plusieurs formes, la plus courante : j'ai ripé un de mes dvd, l'iso se trouve sur un disque dur sur le serveur (2) et je veux regarder mon film à travers la boxee (6). J'allume le serveur avec un magic packet, je l'entends à l'étage qui se met en route. j'attends un certain temps, j'allume la boxee (6), je me balade dans les menus, je vois le nom réseau du serveur(2), je vais pour rentrer dessus et accéder aux partages, et là... blocage rien ne se passe, puis retour au menu sans avoir accès aux partages...Le lendemain, je refais la même opération, et là ça marche, ou non, au choix... Ce qui marche : -le wake on lan, je fais transiter les magic packets sans soucis. -le ping, de n'importe quel ordinateur vers n'importe quel ordinateur -l'accès internet, tous les terminaux accèdent à Internet sans soucis -un serveur http sur le serveur(2) accessible pour peu que l'ordinateur soit sous tension -le partage samba depuis mon ordinateur (4), celui de ma compagne(3). Ce qui marche bizarrement : -les partages samba du serveur (2), accessibles ou non suivant une logique qui m'échappe -le ssh du serveur (2), idem -le ftp du serveur (2), idem -le vnc du serveur (2), idem Ce qui ne marche pas : -depuis mon ordinateur (4), je n'accède pas aux partages sambas, aucun. les miens sont vus et accessibles depuis n'importe ou sur le réseau, mais j'ai du mal à y accéder. smbtree me retourne les noms des ordinateurs sur le réseau mais aucun partage associé. Voilà, je me rends compte que ça fait un gros pâté cet e-mail, désolé, merci à ceux qui ont le courage de tout lire. J'ai passé de nombreuses heures à faire divers test sur mon réseau et je ne trouve pas de solution à mon problème. Je peux fournir des retours de commandes exécutées sur divers postes si besoin, je peux donner des précisions de matériel, de logiciel, de configuration ou bien danser nu enroulé dans du jambon pour accomplir la prophétie. Il me manque certainement des notions techniques de réseau pour comprendre correctement comment tout ça fonctionne, et je suppose que j'ai du faire certaines erreurs de configuration pour que ça déconne comme ça, mais je ne m'en sors pas tout seul. Par pitié, Ô, Maîtres Debianistes, aidez-moi. Tom.
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
Le lundi 04 mars 2013 à 12:27, Thomas N. a écrit : Ce qui marche : -le wake on lan, je fais transiter les magic packets sans soucis. -le ping, de n'importe quel ordinateur vers n'importe quel ordinateur -l'accès internet, tous les terminaux accèdent à Internet sans soucis -un serveur http sur le serveur(2) accessible pour peu que l'ordinateur soit sous tension -le partage samba depuis mon ordinateur (4), celui de ma compagne(3). Ce qui marche bizarrement : -les partages samba du serveur (2), accessibles ou non suivant une logique qui m'échappe -le ssh du serveur (2), idem -le ftp du serveur (2), idem -le vnc du serveur (2), idem Ce qui ne marche pas : -depuis mon ordinateur (4), je n'accède pas aux partages sambas, aucun. les miens sont vus et accessibles depuis n'importe ou sur le réseau, mais j'ai du mal à y accéder. smbtree me retourne les noms des ordinateurs sur le réseau mais aucun partage associé. Quelques idées comme ça… Lorsque ça ne fonctionne pas, les ports utiles du serveur semblent-ils ouverts (commande « nmap ip_du_serveur » depuis un des postes de travail) ? La même commande lorsque ça fonctionne serait peut-être utile. Lorsque ça ne fonctionne pas, est-ce que les services problématiques sont accessibles en *local* (« ssh localhost » sur le serveur, par exemple) ? As-tu essayé de comparer les logs (/var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/auth.log) dans les deux cas ? As-tu des règles de filtrage (iptables) sur le serveur ? Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304115143.gb7...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
Salut Petites questions: quel est l'état de ton firewall sur le poste2 et 4 ? quel est le moyen d'authentification entre poste 2 et 4 ? es tu sur que les comptes correspondes et ont assez de droits? peut t'on voir le fichier de log auth.log (2 et 4) lorsque une connection samba ssh ftp et vnc ne fonctionne pas? Merci Stef Le 4 mars 2013 12:27, Thomas N. syn...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous, j'utilise Debian depuis plusieurs années, j'avance à tâtons, mais jusque maintenant mon ami google avait toujours pu résoudre mes soucis, ou tout du moins répondre à mes questions. Cependant je suis confronté depuis quelques temps à un problème de réseau chez moi. Certains de mes partages samba sont visibles/accessibles aléatoirement, certaines application fonctionnent aléatoirement. la structure du réseau : - un modem/routeur/point d'accès wifi TP-LINK (TD-W8961ND) connecté en ethernet à ce routeur : - un ordinateur sous win xp(1) - un ordinateur sous debian wheezy à jour(2) connecté en wifi : - un ordinateur sous win 7(3) - un ordinateur sous debian wheezy à jour(un autre)(4) - divers ordinateurs portables/tablettes/smartphones, suivant les gens présents etc...(5) - une passerelle multimedia (boxee)(6) l'ordinateur (1) est utilisé pour certains logiciels pro bien spécifiques et est allumé assez rarement, donc peu présent sur le réseau (hors de cause je pense). l'ordinateur (3) est l'ordinateur de bureau de ma compagne, elle joue dessus, elle surfe, elle accède à des dossiers partagés, elle en partage certains aussi. l'ordinateur (4) est mon ordinateur de bureau, j'en fais un peu la même utilisation que ma compagne avec le sien. les terminaux mobiles (5) accèdent sans soucis au réseau, à Internet. La passerelle multimédia(6) accède au réseau et à Internet sans soucis. L'ordinateur (2) est plus problématique. C'est un serveur dell t300 que j'ai récupéré il y a peu, il est là pour stocker des fichiers, les mettre à disposition, faire tourner quelques applications (ssh, vnc, ftp, apache...), je l'allume au besoin, soit à la main, soit en lui envoyant un magic packet (à partir d'une tablette à travers le wifi par exemple et ça marche à tous les coups). L'utilisation : les ordinateurs sont allumés en fonction des besoins, par soucis d'économie d'énergie je ne m'amuse pas à laisser allumés les différents postes de travail h24. J'ai besoin d'accéder à tel ou tel partage, j'allume l'ordinateur qui héberge le partage en question, j'accède à ce dont j'ai besoin, et lorsque le besoin n'est plus là, j’éteins le poste en question. Les différents ordinateurs de la maison sont donc mis en réseau et sous tension de manière aléatoire, sans ordre précis. La seule chose qui reste allumée tout le temps c'est le modem/routeur. Le soucis : Il prend plusieurs formes, la plus courante : j'ai ripé un de mes dvd, l'iso se trouve sur un disque dur sur le serveur (2) et je veux regarder mon film à travers la boxee (6). J'allume le serveur avec un magic packet, je l'entends à l'étage qui se met en route. j'attends un certain temps, j'allume la boxee (6), je me balade dans les menus, je vois le nom réseau du serveur(2), je vais pour rentrer dessus et accéder aux partages, et là... blocage rien ne se passe, puis retour au menu sans avoir accès aux partages...Le lendemain, je refais la même opération, et là ça marche, ou non, au choix... Ce qui marche : -le wake on lan, je fais transiter les magic packets sans soucis. -le ping, de n'importe quel ordinateur vers n'importe quel ordinateur -l'accès internet, tous les terminaux accèdent à Internet sans soucis -un serveur http sur le serveur(2) accessible pour peu que l'ordinateur soit sous tension -le partage samba depuis mon ordinateur (4), celui de ma compagne(3). Ce qui marche bizarrement : -les partages samba du serveur (2), accessibles ou non suivant une logique qui m'échappe -le ssh du serveur (2), idem -le ftp du serveur (2), idem -le vnc du serveur (2), idem Ce qui ne marche pas : -depuis mon ordinateur (4), je n'accède pas aux partages sambas, aucun. les miens sont vus et accessibles depuis n'importe ou sur le réseau, mais j'ai du mal à y accéder. smbtree me retourne les noms des ordinateurs sur le réseau mais aucun partage associé. Voilà, je me rends compte que ça fait un gros pâté cet e-mail, désolé, merci à ceux qui ont le courage de tout lire. J'ai passé de nombreuses heures à faire divers test sur mon réseau et je ne trouve pas de solution à mon problème. Je peux fournir des retours de commandes exécutées sur divers postes si besoin, je peux donner des précisions de matériel, de logiciel, de configuration ou bien danser nu enroulé dans du jambon pour accomplir la prophétie. Il me manque certainement des notions techniques de réseau pour comprendre correctement comment tout ça fonctionne, et je suppose que j'ai du faire certaines erreurs de configuration pour que ça
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 12:27:00PM +0100, Thomas N. wrote: Ce qui marche bizarrement : -les partages samba du serveur (2), accessibles ou non suivant une logique qui m'échappe -le ssh du serveur (2), idem -le ftp du serveur (2), idem -le vnc du serveur (2), idem Ce qui ne marche pas : -depuis mon ordinateur (4), je n'accède pas aux partages sambas, aucun. les miens sont vus et accessibles depuis n'importe ou sur le réseau, mais j'ai du mal à y accéder. smbtree me retourne les noms des ordinateurs sur le réseau mais aucun partage associé. Tout cela me fait penser à un conflit d'adresses IP. Tu as affecté statiquement tes adresses ? Si oui, as-tu fait attention que le serveur DHCP du réseau (ton point d'accès Wifi) ne fournit pas les mêmes adresses que celles affectées manuellement ? -- Nicolas -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304120714.gc20...@petole.demisel.net
Re: vidéo France 5
Bonjour Tu peux regarder du coté de weboob et de son module francetelevision : http://weboob.org/modules#mod_francetelevisions Juke. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304133253.gf7...@test.porcinet.eu
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:27:00 +0100 Thomas N. syn...@gmail.com wrote: Vérifie toutes les adresses MAC de tes matériels, certaines boîtes chinoises ne veulent pas payer pour se faire allouer des blocs d'adresses et on trouve des cartes réseau avec des MAC déjà existantes. -- Nathos: La magie de Windows= tu peux désactiver tous les comptes utilisateurs, rédémarrer et te retrouver comme un couillon sans aucun compte fonctionnel ... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304145950.39e53d83@anubis.defcon1
Debian minimal : résolution et taille de police
Bonjour Liste ! Voilà quelques heures que je fais joujou avec un IBM Thinkpad A20p (de 1999, PIII 700Mhz, 384mo de RAM, DD 20go). J'y ai installé Squeeze, installation minimale (mode expert, les seuls choix activés sont outils de base du système et ordinateur portable). J'ai cherché à réduire la taille de la police, ce que j'ai facilement fait (après quelques recherches tout de même, notamment dans cette mailing-list), avec console-setup. Ensuite, j'ai voulu augmenter la résolution. Et là, je suis complètement perdu, j'ai testé pleins de trucs : vga=791, GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_MACHIN, etc. Ça ne change en rien ma résolution. Ce qui me chagrine, c'est qu'hier, j'ai réussi, puis j'ai réinstallé le système (j'avais fait des conneries avec aptitude/gnome/xorg/xfce, et j'arrivais pas à m'en dépatouiller), et aujourd'hui, no way. Donc mes questionnements sont : - Comment connaître la résolution actuelle ? sachant que je n'ai que des TTY, pas de serveur X - Comment la changer ? soit en direct (sans reboot), soit par grub2 ? J'ai testé des dizaines de trucs (ok j'exagère), mais c'est le fouilli, les explications sont pas claires, grub-legacy, grub2, vga, ou gfx, hwinfo, framebuffer, enfin bon, c'est le dawa ! Si quelqu'un a la motiv pour me renseigner, je prends ! À très bientôt ! Gaël
Re: Debian minimal : résolution et taille de police
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:30:50 +0100 Gaël gag...@gmail.com wrote: vga=791, GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_MACHIN, etc. Change pour vga=ask et vois ce qui est dispo. -- Leen carpe diem c'est de l'allemand non ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304161138.29cdef7f@anubis.defcon1
Re: Debian minimal : résolution et taille de police
Hi, Merci pour ta réponse. J'ai testé. argument vga=ask is no longer supported. Failed to blahblahblah Ça n'a donc pas marché. Je continue mes tests, mais surtout, là je me penche sur un autre problème, qui n'a pas sa place ici (startxfce4 et écran noir...) Merci ! Gaël Le 4 mars 2013 16:11, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit : On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:30:50 +0100 Gaël gag...@gmail.com wrote: vga=791, GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_MACHIN, etc. Change pour vga=ask et vois ce qui est dispo. -- Leen carpe diem c'est de l'allemand non ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304161138.29cdef7f@anubis.defcon1
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
Bzzz a écrit : On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:27:00 +0100 Thomas N. syn...@gmail.com wrote: Vérifie toutes les adresses MAC de tes matériels, certaines boîtes chinoises ne veulent pas payer pour se faire allouer des blocs d'adresses et on trouve des cartes réseau avec des MAC déjà existantes. Faudrait vraiment pas avoir de bol ! ... La probabilité que ca arrive doit être mince quand même ? Mais c'est sur que ca peut foutre la zouille sur le réseau, donc pourquoi pas ;) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134df1e.3080...@stuxnet.org
Re: Debian minimal : résolution et taille de police
Le lundi 4 mars 2013 à 15:30:50, Gaël a écrit : Bonjour Liste ! ’soir, Voilà quelques heures que je fais joujou avec un IBM Thinkpad A20p (de 1999, PIII 700Mhz, 384mo de RAM, DD 20go). L’important pour ton problème, c’est la carte graphique. C’est quoi-t-est-ce ? (lspci…) […] Donc mes questionnements sont : - Comment connaître la résolution actuelle ? sachant que je n'ai que des TTY, pas de serveur X 1. Tu prends une loupe, et tu comptes… 2. echo $COLUMNS $LINES et tu multiplies par la taille de la fonte (à presqu’une ligne de texte près). 3. Plus compliqué mais plus sûr : cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/virtual_size cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes - Comment la changer ? soit en direct (sans reboot), soit par grub2 ? En direct, à condition d’utiliser un framebuffer¹ : fbset. (Cf. /proc/fb et dmesg et le 3. précédent.) Note : avec le framebuffer vesa, on est limité dans les définitions possibles (en gros, les modes 4:3 et le 1280x1024 (5:4)). […] Si quelqu'un a la motiv pour me renseigner, je prends ! C’est pas compliqué, par défaut, ça marche tout seul et tout correctement (définition maximale) avec le KMS (kernel mode setting). Pour ceux qui ont besoin de faire des réglages… : Le Grub2, le gestionnaire de boot par défaut, se règle via /etc/default/grub et il y a un exemple commenté avec 'GRUB_GFXMODE=WxHxD'. Ça change la définition pour le menu du grub. 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep' doit être nécessaire pour que le noyau garde la même définition. 'GRUB_TERMINAL=gfxterm' sert à ce que le menu du grub soit en graphique (déjà le cas par défaut (?)). Pour le noyau tout seul (donc après/hors le grub), c’est l’option 'video=WxH-D' (p.ex. 'video=1920x1200-32' ; attention, c’est un tiret avant la profondeur (nombre de bits, 32), pas un 'x' comme dans 'GRUB_GFXMODE') (ce n’est plus 'vga=n°' depuis longtemps). Donc à mettre dans 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX'. Ne pas oublier de faire update-grub après toute modification. Pas testé depuis un moment puisque, « chez moi, ça marche tout seul »™… Sinon, 'hwinfo --framebuffer' est censé donner les modes disponibles sauf qu’il raconte parfois n’importe quoi (chez moi, il donne les infos pour le FB vesa alors que c’est inteldrmfb qui est utilisé, donc pas les bons modes etc.). Voilà, c’est tout ce que je sais… -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303041856.37289.sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:51:26 +0100 Christophe t...@stuxnet.org wrote: Faudrait vraiment pas avoir de bol ! ... La probabilité que ca arrive doit être mince quand même ? Ça m'est arrivé deux fois chez des clients à deux ans d'intervalle (même ville) avec des cartes Ethernet 10/100 de base (CS realtek). -- elen: j'ai pas bcp de copines filles en fait TaneR: t'as des copines garcon ?? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304185713.3c3812d0@anubis.defcon1
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
Le lundi 4 mars 2013 à 18:51:26, Christophe a écrit : […] Vérifie toutes les adresses MAC de tes matériels, certaines boîtes chinoises ne veulent pas payer pour se faire allouer des blocs d'adresses et on trouve des cartes réseau avec des MAC déjà existantes. Faudrait vraiment pas avoir de bol ! ... La probabilité que ca arrive doit être mince quand même ? Pas si tu achètes en lot. Et ce n’est pas seulement « certaines boîtes chinoises » (de toute façon, au final, qui fabrique à part des boîtes chinoises maintenant ?) ou pour une histoire de brouzoufs pour en avoir, c’est aussi une histoire de brouzoufs pour ne pas s’embêter à modifier ce qu’on met dans la ROM de chaque carte/puce, pour pouvoir tester avec toujours la même MAC… -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303041908.12184.sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
Bzzz a écrit : Ça m'est arrivé deux fois chez des clients à deux ans d'intervalle (même ville) avec des cartes Ethernet 10/100 de base (CS realtek). Diantre, c'est encore moins de bol ! Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : Faudrait vraiment pas avoir de bol ! ... La probabilité que ca arrive doit être mince quand même ? Pas si tu achètes en lot. Et ce n’est pas seulement « certaines boîtes chinoises » (de toute façon, au final, qui fabrique à part des boîtes chinoises maintenant ?) ou pour une histoire de brouzoufs pour en avoir, c’est aussi une histoire de brouzoufs pour ne pas s’embêter à modifier ce qu’on met dans la ROM de chaque carte/puce, pour pouvoir tester avec toujours la même MAC… Arf oui, vu comme ca, ca se conçoit ... Mais de la à en arriver à avoir deux adresses MAC identiques sur une configuration aussi hétéroclite que celle énoncée au départ, j'ai quand même quelques doutes. (mais une fois de plus, il n'est pas inutile de vérifier). Thomas, tu as un peu plus de détails sur les cartes réseaux qui équipent tes différentes machines/périphériques ? @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/513520a4.3000...@stuxnet.org
Re: Pret DVD wheezy
Bonjour à tous, Sur un GREEN PC FUJISTU SIEMENS SCENIC E300 (3Ghz/2Go RAM), j'ai essayé d'installer XUBUNTU 12.10, je n'ai pas pu le faire car je n'ai meme pas vu le menu d'installation car j'ai eu un KERNEL PANIC au boot sur le DVD. J'ai donc installé DEBIAN SQUEEZE avec une mise à jour des derniers paquets et avec le bureau XFCE, j'en suis satisfait. Pour moi XFCE est moins lourd que les deux autres bureau KDE et GNOME. A+ Alex PADOLY Le 25 février 2013 23:06, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit : On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:25:31 +0100 Yves Rutschle debian.anti-s...@rutschle.net wrote: Ok, je la refais en relatif: KDE utilise 750Mo de plus que XFCE (à la louche) :p Sois précis, est-ce une louche à sauce, une louche à potage ou bien une louche à fromage? Parce que les contenances sont loin d'être les mêmes… -- Floop Vous mettez quoi dans votre copie de bac blanc quand vous avez un trou? Norman 404 Not Found. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130225230659.4ab1481b@anubis.defcon1
FIREFOX 19.0
Bonjour à tous, Constatez-vous des plantage de FIREFOX 19.0? Si c'est le cas peut-on utiliser une ancienne version plus stable et bloquer la mise à jour automatique? A une époque j'utilisais Opera pour LINUX mais aujourd'hui, je le trouve lourd et non compatible à 100% avec flash player. Merci pour vos réponses. Alex
Re: Problème réseau : Accès/visibilité partage samba aléatoire.
Bonjour à tous, Merci pour vos réponses. Je manque un peu de temps pour vous faire une réponse complète, aussi j'apporterai seulement quelques précisions pour l'instant. As-tu essayé de comparer les logs (/var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/auth.log) dans les deux cas ? Non, bientôt :o) As-tu des règles de filtrage (iptables) sur le serveur ? Non. quel est l'état de ton firewall sur le poste2 et 4 ? # iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination quel est le moyen d'authentification entre poste 2 et 4 ? es tu sur que les comptes correspondes et ont assez de droits? Tu parles de quelle authentification? Pour Samba c'est un partage ouvert en lecture seule, pas de login/pass. En fait c'est peut-être parce qu'il est un peu tôt, mais je ne comprends pas très bien ce que tu appelles moyen d'identification. Concernant le ssh, j'utilise le compte root en général, donc je suppose qu'il a assez de droits. Après quand ca ne marche pas, ni root ni qui que ce soit ne fonctionne. peut t'on voir le fichier de log auth.log (2 et 4) lorsque une connection samba ssh ftp et vnc ne fonctionne pas? Bientôt. Tu as affecté statiquement tes adresses ? oui Si oui, as-tu fait attention que le serveur DHCP du réseau (ton point d'accès Wifi) ne fournit pas les mêmes adresses que celles affectées manuellement ? oui, le serveur DHCP de mon routeur est configuré de manière à n'attribuer des IP que dans la plage 192.168.1.20-192.168.1.200. Les adresses statiques sont entre 2 et 20, mon routeur utilisant la première. Vérifie toutes les adresses MAC de tes matériels. C'est bon, pas de conflit à ce niveau là, je vérifierai une fois de plus par sécurité. Thomas, tu as un peu plus de détails sur les cartes réseaux qui équipent tes différentes machines/périphériques ? Le serveur (2) possède 2 cartes gigabit, je n'en utilise qu'une (la même pour le wake on lan que pour le réseau d'ailleurs, c'est un problème?). Le routeur, je ne sais pas trop, en ethernet c'est du 10/100, en wifi, c'est du N. Les postes 3 et 4 sont équipés de cartes wifi N, les 2 mêmes, achetées en même temps, ils ont des cartes ethernet mais qui ne sont pas utilisées. Pour les autres périphériques, ce sont des puces wifi intégrées (smartphone, tablette etc...) Thomas.
Nieprzerwane komunikaty na konsolach
Witam.Mam awarię serwera (Debian 6.04). Na wszystkich konsolach tekstowych prawie nieustannie lecą komunikaty typu:Dropping: IN=eth1 OUT=MAC= ... SRC= ... DST=... LEN=..'eth1' to jego wyjście. Po 'SRC' jest adres mojej sieci i zmieniające się numery komputerów z tej sieci.Po 'DST' jest albo adres mojej sieci z ostatnim członem '127', albo '255.255.255.255'.Odpięcie kabla sieciowego przerywa potok komunikatów.Wydaje mi się, że jest to jego awaria, ponieważ drugi serwer z identycznym systemem podpięty do tego samego switch'a nic nie pokazuje. Pingi z tego drugiego serwera na kilka numerów wyświetlanych po 'SRC' pozostały bez odpowiedzi.Wreszcie na uszkodzonym nie udaje się zamontować zewnętrznego dysku (sygnalizuje Unhandled error code ... unable to read superblock ... mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/sdb1 ...), który na drugim serwerze montuje się i czyta bez problemów.Uszkodzony to serwer www. Od strony użytkowników wydaje się działać - pokazuje swoje strony, można się z nim połączyć przez putty i działać, kopiować między nim a stacją roboczą np. przez WinSCP.Mam podejrzenie nie poparte żadnym dowodem, że może to być sprawa pamięci. Kilka miesięcy temu na tym serwerze uległa uszkodzeniu jedna z partycji tak, że nie udało się jej naprawić. Złożyłem to na karb dysku i zainstalowałem system na innym. Starego niestety nie przetestowałem.Podstawowy problem polega na tym, że przydałoby się, aby serwer działał dla użytkowników przynajmniej przez kilka dni (pewna terminowa sprawa).Stąd pytania:a/ czy na podstawie tego opisu można podać najbardziej prawdopodobne powody awarii?b/ co byście doradzali: odczekać te kilka dni licząc że nic gorszego nie nastąpi, czy jednak działać już teraz, chociaż np. po restarcie może być jeszcze gorzej?Z podziękowaniem za wszystkie uwagi,L. Pańkowski
Re: Nieprzerwane komunikaty na konsolach
W dniu 4 marca 2013 13:27 użytkownik Lech Pankowski lp...@uwb.edu.pl napisał: Witam. Mam awarię serwera (Debian 6.04). Na wszystkich konsolach tekstowych prawie nieustannie lecą komunikaty typu: Dropping: IN=eth1 OUT=MAC= ... SRC= ... DST=... LEN=.. 'eth1' to jego wyjście. Po 'SRC' jest adres mojej sieci i zmieniające się numery komputerów z tej sieci. Po 'DST' jest albo adres mojej sieci z ostatnim członem '127', albo '255.255.255.255'. Odpięcie kabla sieciowego przerywa potok komunikatów. Dropowanie na eth1 to pasuje bardziej do iptables niż do awarii pamięci. Sprawdzałeś czy te pakiety faktycznie nie są wysyłane do tego serwera? Jeśli są w kablu, to podane komunikaty mogą być prawidłowa reakcja twojego firewalla na nieoczekiwany ruch sieciowy. Pozdrawiam, Marek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFya5qxw-_3Xj˙=ak+9B;t15rg_c1fpm1m32brgoxdh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Nieprzerwane komunikaty na konsolach
2013/3/4 Lech Pankowski lp...@uwb.edu.pl: Witam. Mam awarię serwera (Debian 6.04). Na wszystkich konsolach tekstowych prawie nieustannie lecą komunikaty typu: Dropping: IN=eth1 OUT=MAC= ... SRC= ... DST=... LEN=.. 'eth1' to jego wyjście. Po 'SRC' jest adres mojej sieci i zmieniające się numery komputerów z tej sieci. Po 'DST' jest albo adres mojej sieci z ostatnim członem '127', albo '255.255.255.255'. Odpięcie kabla sieciowego przerywa potok komunikatów. To jeszcze nie awaria. Tylko komunikaty z firewalla. Masz najwyraźniej ustawione przekierowanie na konsolę. Leci na aktywną. -- Tomasz Kundera -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosnokebh3jhmiojtb7+l+ma3d2s0tw-iqfju2omygzmkjd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Filesystem features
trata de evitar enviar mail en html El lun, 04-03-2013 a las 01:43 -0300, Jorge Segovia escribió: Buenas Noches, Alguien tiene idea con para que se utiliza la opción filetype en un filesystem. tune2fs -l /dev/datavg/www_lv Filesystem volume name: Last mounted on: Filesystem UUID: 18c4cf33-9dc5-4230-9eea-17eed1060f46 Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr filetype sparse_super En el man de tune2fs hay una descripcion muy escueta pero no llego a comprender bien. la dejo por si alguno la entiende y me puede aclarar el panorama. filetype Store file type information in directory entries. se me ocurre, y es solo mi imaginación así que alguien me corrija por favor, que lo que está guardando es algo como: imagen.png -- archivo de imagen texto.txt -- archivo de texto pero lo está guardando en la entrada de directorios, o sea, así como guarda que inodo o en que bloque está el archivo, también guarda de que se trata. Seguramente vas a encontrar mas información en la definición de ext3, pero no se donde está eso, ¿en la documentación que incluye el código del kernel tal vez? -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1362403399.2404.26.ca...@eeepc.ucasal.ar
Re: evolution y gmail, timeout [solucionado]
El Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:11:43 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El sáb, 02-03-2013 a las 15:14 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) Antes de mandar un informe de errores prueba a crear un nuevo usuario e intenta configurar la cuenta de Gmail ahí e intenta enviar un correo, a ver qué sucede, así descartas un problema en la configuración del perfil del usuario. intenté un nuevo usuario, configuré y... anda %#@@x###%%*! Entonces comencé de nuevo, pero ahora no pasé por 'cuentas en línea' de gnome, sino desde evolution. Y funciona, de hecho este mail lo estoy enviando por evolution, y si lo ven es que está bien. Nunca he usado eso de las cuentas en línea, supongo que será alguna novedad del GNOME 3 pero mira, no sabía que permitía configurar cuentas de correo electrónico de distintos proveedores pensaba que estaba enfocado a lo que se conoce como red social, es decir, gestión de cuentas de proveedores en la nube (facebook, google circles, twitter, etc...) y como no uso nada de eso pues ni me había molestado en abrirlo. Ahora solo me queda ver como recupero la agenda (de compromisos y cosas por hacer) y la agenda de contactos, que no veo la opción pero esa es otra historia... ¿Desde dónde quiere recuperar esos datos? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh2cmm$knf$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Filesystem features
El Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:43:08 -0300, Jorge Segovia escribió: Buenas Noches, (ese html...) Alguien tiene idea con para que se utiliza la opción *filetype *en un filesystem. (...) Pues no :-) Pero seguro que alguien, en alguna parte del mundo se ha hecho ya la misma pregunta... preguntemos a Google: Extensiones de Ext2, Ext3 y Ext4 http://rodrigo.dualnot.com/extensiones-de-ext2/ Mira, en español y todo, qué bien :-P Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh2d40$knf$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: lilo - keytable read/checksum error
El Mon, 04 Mar 2013 07:46:56 -0300, francisco cid escribió: Francisco, estás enviando los correos con formato html lo cual se recomienda evitar en esta lista por lo que deberías configurar el cliente de correo para usar formato texto. Si no sabes cómo hacerlo tienes más ayuda sobre el proceso en la Wiki de Debian. Y si no eres capaz de encontrar la página en cuestión, pues lo dices y te la mando... El 3 de marzo de 2013 11:56, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:05:53 -0300, francisco cid escribió: hola, e estado solucionar este problema todo el dia, ¿Qué problema, el del asunto? ¿Y cuándo te aparece, exactamente, nada más iniciar? ¿Y te apareció sin más, de un día para otro sin haber hecho nada? si, un día se me quedó el notebook prendido, hibernó, y luego al prender, me mandó ese error. Ah, vale. El error te apareció al intentar restaurar el sistema, ok. Apenas conozco LILO... ¿has probado buscando en Google por ese mensaje? si lo hice! (...) ¿Y no obtuviste ninguna pista, probaste alguna de las sugerencias y si es así, qué exactamente y con qué resultado? Normalmente *quien pregunta* es quien debe *proporcionar* la mayor cantidad de datos, más que nada porque suele ser el más interesado en resolver *su problema* :-) ¿Cómo y dónde instalaste GRUB2? con el cd de instalacion entre a una consola y le dí un fsck al sistema de ficheros raíz, porque tenia algunos archivos con errores, luego pude entrar al sistema, pero sólo con una herramienta llamada super grub disk, una vez dentro de mi debian , instalé el grub, lo configuré y se solucionó. creo que todo se debía a un error físico en mi disco duro Es posible... aunque quizá se haya quedado traspuesto al restaurar el sistema tras hibernar (p. ej., si ha encontrado un cambio que no haya sabido interpretar). No te sabría decir, no he trabajado apenas con LILO pero sí recuerdo que con este gestor de arranque había que ejecutar algún comando cuando se actualizaba el kernel (al menos eso pasaba antiguamente no sé cómo será ahora o si se habrá automatizado de alguna forma). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh2ec3$knf$3...@ger.gmane.org
OT [ Dos WAN Failover para gateway default ]
Hola muy buenas, esta pregunta está un pelín fuera de la lista porque el sistema operativo que utiliza pfsense es freebsd por debajo. Añado OT. Recurro a esta lista porque por más que he buscado en internet y probado cosas, no doy con ello. El tema es que necesito configurar WAN1, WAN2 y LAN con ips estáticas. Está todo hecho. Realmente, la finalidad es que cuando WAN1 se caiga, enrute todo el tráfico por WAN2. No load-balance, sí failover. Según la documentación de pfsense 2: http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Multi-WAN_2.0 - Hay que agregar un grupo de gateways que ya lo hice, llamado MULTIWAN en mi caso. - Agregar la regla a la interfaz lan de salida para que todo el tráfico a cualquier destino utilice la interfaz MULTIWAN que hemos definido antes. Ya lo he hecho. - Por ultimo, asegurarse de tener mínimo un dns para cada WAN. También están. Esto está todo hecho, pero aún así, cuando quito el cable de WAN1 o deshabilito simplemente la interfaz pfsense es incapaz de agregarme la nueva ruta, desde pfsense ejecuto: netstat -ar Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire default92.136.156.141 UGS 06re1 10.100.0.0 link#1 U 014125re0 pfsenselink#1 UHS 00lo0 65.42.250.0link#3 U 0 5720re2 250.250.42.65.stat link#3 UHS 00lo0 92.136.156.0 link#2 U 06re1 92.136.156.141 link#2 UHS 00lo0 localhost link#7 UH 0 761lo0 Aquí podemos ver como el default me lo mete por una interfaz. Ahora deshabilito WAN1: Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire 10.100.0.0 link#1 U 014246re0 pfsenselink#1 UHS 00lo0 65.42.250.0link#3 U 0 5889re2 250.250.42.65.stat link#3 UHS 00lo0 localhost link#7 UH 0 771lo0 El campo default no lo añade y claro se queda sin internet puesto que él sigue asumiendo que tiene que tirar el tráfico por WAN1 por lo que se ve... Le ha pasado esto a alguien?? Gracias por adelantado. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2ce5149427a638923888ef3d5a9a7...@maykel.sytes.net
[OT] Re: disculpas correo basura
El Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:11:07 -0800, Exell Enrique. Franklin Jiménez escribió: Cordial saludo, uyna de mis cuentas de correo fue vulnerada por favor hacer caso omiso a correos cuyo asunto contenga «hey!» o «how are you» o similares estoy tomando las medidas correctivas gracias E.E.F.J. araw...@ieee.org Caray... una cuenta del IEEE vulnerada. ¿Quizá debido al uso de una contraseña débil? :-? Yo últimamente estoy optando por el uso de contraseñas generadas de forma aleatoria¹ ya que aunque suelo utilizar plantillas con patrones reconocidos por mí para generar las contraseñas al fin y al cabo pueden ser también fácilmente vulnerables. ¹https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh2f3d$knf$4...@ger.gmane.org
Re: evolution y gmail, timeout [solucionado]
El lun, 04-03-2013 a las 14:56 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:11:43 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El sáb, 02-03-2013 a las 15:14 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) Antes de mandar un informe de errores prueba a crear un nuevo usuario e intenta configurar la cuenta de Gmail ahí e intenta enviar un correo, a ver qué sucede, así descartas un problema en la configuración del perfil del usuario. intenté un nuevo usuario, configuré y... anda %#@@x###%%*! Entonces comencé de nuevo, pero ahora no pasé por 'cuentas en línea' de gnome, sino desde evolution. Y funciona, de hecho este mail lo estoy enviando por evolution, y si lo ven es que está bien. Nunca he usado eso de las cuentas en línea, supongo que será alguna novedad del GNOME 3 pero mira, no sabía que permitía configurar cuentas de correo electrónico de distintos proveedores pensaba que estaba enfocado a lo que se conoce como red social, es decir, gestión de cuentas de proveedores en la nube (facebook, google circles, twitter, etc...) y como no uso nada de eso pues ni me había molestado en abrirlo. sirve para agregar el chat, documentos (en caso de google y supongo que también hotmail/como-quiera-que-se-llame-ahora), contactos, agenda... O en realidad sirve, no fue mi caso :p Ahora solo me queda ver como recupero la agenda (de compromisos y cosas por hacer) y la agenda de contactos, que no veo la opción pero esa es otra historia... ¿Desde dónde quiere recuperar esos datos? desde mi cuenta de gmail, pero eso es bucear un poco en las opciones de evolution, así que en realidad lo comentaba como al pasar, no debería ser gran problema arreglarlo esta tarde cuando llegue a casa y encienda la computadora -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1362413884.2404.30.ca...@eeepc.ucasal.ar
Re: evolution y gmail, timeout [solucionado]
El Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:18:04 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El lun, 04-03-2013 a las 14:56 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) Ahora solo me queda ver como recupero la agenda (de compromisos y cosas por hacer) y la agenda de contactos, que no veo la opción pero esa es otra historia... ¿Desde dónde quiere recuperar esos datos? desde mi cuenta de gmail, pero eso es bucear un poco en las opciones de evolution, así que en realidad lo comentaba como al pasar, no debería ser gran problema arreglarlo esta tarde cuando llegue a casa y encienda la computadora Creo que los contactos se pueden exportar desde Gmail en formato CSV o vCard y entiendo que Evo no tendrá problemas para importar desde estos formatos. Para la agenda y tareas podrás usar iCal. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh2ifh$knf$5...@ger.gmane.org
RE: OT [ Dos WAN Failover para gateway default ]
-Mensaje original- De: may...@maykel.sytes.net [mailto:may...@maykel.sytes.net] Enviado el: lunes, 04 de marzo de 2013 12:25 p.m. Para: debian Asunto: OT [ Dos WAN Failover para gateway default ] Hola muy buenas, esta pregunta está un pelín fuera de la lista porque el sistema operativo que utiliza pfsense es freebsd por debajo. Añado OT. Recurro a esta lista porque por más que he buscado en internet y probado cosas, no doy con ello. El tema es que necesito configurar WAN1, WAN2 y LAN con ips estáticas. Está todo hecho. Realmente, la finalidad es que cuando WAN1 se caiga, enrute todo el tráfico por WAN2. No load-balance, sí failover. Según la documentación de pfsense 2: http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Multi-WAN_2.0 - Hay que agregar un grupo de gateways que ya lo hice, llamado MULTIWAN en mi caso. - Agregar la regla a la interfaz lan de salida para que todo el tráfico a cualquier destino utilice la interfaz MULTIWAN que hemos definido antes. Ya lo he hecho. - Por ultimo, asegurarse de tener mínimo un dns para cada WAN. También están. Esto está todo hecho, pero aún así, cuando quito el cable de WAN1 o deshabilito simplemente la interfaz pfsense es incapaz de agregarme la nueva ruta, desde pfsense ejecuto: netstat -ar Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire default92.136.156.141 UGS 06re1 10.100.0.0 link#1 U 014125re0 pfsenselink#1 UHS 00lo0 65.42.250.0link#3 U 0 5720re2 250.250.42.65.stat link#3 UHS 00lo0 92.136.156.0 link#2 U 06re1 92.136.156.141 link#2 UHS 00lo0 localhost link#7 UH 0 761lo0 Aquí podemos ver como el default me lo mete por una interfaz. Ahora deshabilito WAN1: Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire 10.100.0.0 link#1 U 014246re0 pfsenselink#1 UHS 00lo0 65.42.250.0link#3 U 0 5889re2 250.250.42.65.stat link#3 UHS 00lo0 localhost link#7 UH 0 771lo0 El campo default no lo añade y claro se queda sin internet puesto que él sigue asumiendo que tiene que tirar el tráfico por WAN1 por lo que se ve... Le ha pasado esto a alguien?? Gracias por adelantado. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2ce5149427a638923888ef3d5a9a76dc@maykel.sytes. net Hola, procura que en: System Routing Groups (Solapa) , tengas añadido el grupo con las 2 interfaces y el Trigger Level esté en Member down. Ademas que los 2 gateways tenga Gateway Priority en Tier 1. Asi es como tengo yo el failover. La verdad que nunca me fije si agrega o cambia las rutas, pero cuando un enlace cae el otro levanta; quiero decir que funciona bien. Suerte! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/003001ce1904$2d6a7c40$883f74c0$@ziprasidone.com.ar
RE: OT [ Dos WAN Failover para gateway default ]
El 04/03/2013 19:14, enodisarpiz enodisar...@ziprasidone.com.ar escribió: -Mensaje original- De: may...@maykel.sytes.net [mailto:may...@maykel.sytes.net] Enviado el: lunes, 04 de marzo de 2013 12:25 p.m. Para: debian Asunto: OT [ Dos WAN Failover para gateway default ] Hola muy buenas, esta pregunta está un pelín fuera de la lista porque el sistema operativo que utiliza pfsense es freebsd por debajo. Añado OT. Recurro a esta lista porque por más que he buscado en internet y probado cosas, no doy con ello. El tema es que necesito configurar WAN1, WAN2 y LAN con ips estáticas. Está todo hecho. Realmente, la finalidad es que cuando WAN1 se caiga, enrute todo el tráfico por WAN2. No load-balance, sí failover. Según la documentación de pfsense 2: http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Multi-WAN_2.0 - Hay que agregar un grupo de gateways que ya lo hice, llamado MULTIWAN en mi caso. - Agregar la regla a la interfaz lan de salida para que todo el tráfico a cualquier destino utilice la interfaz MULTIWAN que hemos definido antes. Ya lo he hecho. - Por ultimo, asegurarse de tener mínimo un dns para cada WAN. También están. Esto está todo hecho, pero aún así, cuando quito el cable de WAN1 o deshabilito simplemente la interfaz pfsense es incapaz de agregarme la nueva ruta, desde pfsense ejecuto: netstat -ar Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire default92.136.156.141 UGS 06re1 10.100.0.0 link#1 U 014125re0 pfsenselink#1 UHS 00lo0 65.42.250.0link#3 U 0 5720re2 250.250.42.65.stat link#3 UHS 00lo0 92.136.156.0 link#2 U 06re1 92.136.156.141 link#2 UHS 00lo0 localhost link#7 UH 0 761lo0 Aquí podemos ver como el default me lo mete por una interfaz. Ahora deshabilito WAN1: Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire 10.100.0.0 link#1 U 014246re0 pfsenselink#1 UHS 00lo0 65.42.250.0link#3 U 0 5889re2 250.250.42.65.stat link#3 UHS 00lo0 localhost link#7 UH 0 771lo0 El campo default no lo añade y claro se queda sin internet puesto que él sigue asumiendo que tiene que tirar el tráfico por WAN1 por lo que se ve... Le ha pasado esto a alguien?? Gracias por adelantado. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2ce5149427a638923888ef3d5a9a76dc@maykel.sytes. net Hola, procura que en: System Routing Groups (Solapa) , tengas añadido el grupo con las 2 interfaces y el Trigger Level esté en Member down. Ademas que los 2 gateways tenga Gateway Priority en Tier 1. Asi es como tengo yo el failover. La verdad que nunca me fije si agrega o cambia las rutas, pero cuando un enlace cae el otro levanta; quiero decir que funciona bien. Suerte! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/003001ce1904$2d6a7c40$883f74c0$@ziprasidone.com.ar Gracias por responder. Lo tengo asi excepto el tierra he puesto a 1 una wan y la otra a 2 porque es como aconsejan para failover. Poner tier 1 en ambas wan es para loadbalanced. De todas formas lo he probado y nada...he probado muchas cosas pero sigue sin levantar... Lo único que se me ocurre es que le tengo en una maquina virtual porque otra cosa...Es mas en el logró pone que no puede determinar ninguna wan caída y las todo.a como las 2 up...Que cosa mas rara... Saludos
RE: OT [ Dos WAN Failover para gateway default ]
Perdón por el top-posting y el formato HTML, intenté desde el webmail y no puedo modificar el mensaje. Es verdad, respondí un tanto apurado y está mal lo del Tier o peso de ambos gateways ambos en 1 ( los 2 en 1 es para que balancee). Con que imagen estas probando? Porque yo tengo la 2.0.1 y funciona lo mas bien, sin ninguna configuración rara, etc. Sé que a fines del año pasado salió la 2.0.2. Leí el changelog y vi que tiene varias mejoras, pero por falta de tiempo/posibilidades no lo actualicé, y ahora que me decís de esto si es que estas con la 2.0.2 no creo que actualice. No sé por donde guiarte, pero podrías probar cambiando la ip del Gateway monitor o algo así no me acuerdo ahora, que es donde el enlace chequea si esta online o no (yo los apunto a los DNS de Google). Se me ocurre que quizá tiene como monitor ip una dirección local y siempre le da online y no salta al otro enlace; no se, es solo una chance. Suerte! De: maykeldeb...@gmail.com [mailto:maykeldeb...@gmail.com] En nombre de Maykel Franco Hernandez Enviado el: lunes, 04 de marzo de 2013 03:59 p.m. Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: RE: OT [ Dos WAN Failover para gateway default ] El 04/03/2013 19:14, enodisarpiz enodisar...@ziprasidone.com.ar escribió: -Mensaje original- De: may...@maykel.sytes.net [mailto:may...@maykel.sytes.net] Enviado el: lunes, 04 de marzo de 2013 12:25 p.m. Para: debian Asunto: OT [ Dos WAN Failover para gateway default ] Hola muy buenas, esta pregunta está un pelín fuera de la lista porque el sistema operativo que utiliza pfsense es freebsd por debajo. Añado OT. Recurro a esta lista porque por más que he buscado en internet y probado cosas, no doy con ello. El tema es que necesito configurar WAN1, WAN2 y LAN con ips estáticas. Está todo hecho. Realmente, la finalidad es que cuando WAN1 se caiga, enrute todo el tráfico por WAN2. No load-balance, sí failover. Según la documentación de pfsense 2: http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Multi-WAN_2.0 - Hay que agregar un grupo de gateways que ya lo hice, llamado MULTIWAN en mi caso. - Agregar la regla a la interfaz lan de salida para que todo el tráfico a cualquier destino utilice la interfaz MULTIWAN que hemos definido antes. Ya lo he hecho. - Por ultimo, asegurarse de tener mínimo un dns para cada WAN. También están. Esto está todo hecho, pero aún así, cuando quito el cable de WAN1 o deshabilito simplemente la interfaz pfsense es incapaz de agregarme la nueva ruta, desde pfsense ejecuto: netstat -ar Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire default92.136.156.141 UGS 06re1 10.100.0.0 link#1 U 014125re0 pfsenselink#1 UHS 00lo0 65.42.250.0link#3 U 0 5720re2 250.250.42.65.stat link#3 UHS 00lo0 92.136.156.0 link#2 U 06re1 92.136.156.141 link#2 UHS 00lo0 localhost link#7 UH 0 761lo0 Aquí podemos ver como el default me lo mete por una interfaz. Ahora deshabilito WAN1: Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire 10.100.0.0 link#1 U 014246re0 pfsenselink#1 UHS 00lo0 65.42.250.0link#3 U 0 5889re2 250.250.42.65.stat link#3 UHS 00lo0 localhost link#7 UH 0 771lo0 El campo default no lo añade y claro se queda sin internet puesto que él sigue asumiendo que tiene que tirar el tráfico por WAN1 por lo que se ve... Le ha pasado esto a alguien?? Gracias por adelantado. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2ce5149427a638923888ef3d5a9a76dc@maykel.sytes. net Hola, procura que en: System Routing Groups (Solapa) , tengas añadido el grupo con las 2 interfaces y el Trigger Level esté en Member down. Ademas que los 2 gateways tenga Gateway Priority en Tier 1. Asi es como tengo yo el failover. La verdad que nunca me fije si agrega o cambia las rutas, pero cuando un enlace cae el otro levanta; quiero decir que funciona bien. Suerte! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/003001ce1904$2d6a7c40$883f74c0$@ziprasidone.com.ar Gracias por responder. Lo tengo asi excepto el tierra he
Re: Re: debian se reinicia solo
El Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:32:28 -0600, Carlos Carcamo escribió: Ah propósito hace un tiempo atrás recuerdo haber leído por las listas o en blogs no recuerdo muy bien donde pero era un tema del kernel 3 y el sobrecalentamiento, parece que una versión del kernel de linux hacia que sobrecalentara el equipo, no estoy diciendo que este sea mi caso, pero quien sabe podría ser parte del problema también, aunque creo que el kernel que tengo ya supero esas falencias, por si acaso les dejo información de mi kernel... Mi kernel actual: linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae Hola a todos!! Después de mucho tiempo, he decidido probar Linux de nuevo :) Ahora estoy con Debian Wheezy y estoy encantado. A mi me pasaba esto de sobrecalentamiento del portátil (no se reiniciaba, pero el ventilador practicamente no se paraba nunca) con el kernel linux-image 3.2.0-4-amd64, pero agregué el repositorio de la rama unstable (sólo para ver si había un kernel más reciente), y estaba el mismo, pero con unas versiones superiores... Actualicé el kernel, y asunto resuelto. Ahora, prácticamente, ni se enciende el ventilador :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/513520bc.7020...@yahoo.es
Re: [OT] Re: disculpas correo basura
El día 4 de marzo de 2013 11:07, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:11:07 -0800, Exell Enrique. Franklin Jiménez escribió: Cordial saludo, uyna de mis cuentas de correo fue vulnerada por favor hacer caso omiso a correos cuyo asunto contenga «hey!» o «how are you» o similares estoy tomando las medidas correctivas gracias E.E.F.J. araw...@ieee.org Caray... una cuenta del IEEE vulnerada. ¿Quizá debido al uso de una contraseña débil? :-? Yo últimamente estoy optando por el uso de contraseñas generadas de forma aleatoria¹ ya que aunque suelo utilizar plantillas con patrones reconocidos por mí para generar las contraseñas al fin y al cabo pueden ser también fácilmente vulnerables. ¹https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm Saludos, -- Camaleón Quizás, pero los correo que he recibido en la carpeta Spam no provienen de esa cuenta, aunque quizás sí tenía contraseñas débiles. O eso pienso yo. -- Buen uso de las listas (como se ven en Debian): http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista Ayuda para hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://is.gd/NJIwRz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALEvJmQM1pjOr3O64=mesizuz+obfmjonaavht30xnvvd2v...@mail.gmail.com
Como enviar mensajes a la lista en formato de texto simple
Listeros: Siempre creí que enviaba mis mensajes en formato de texto simple. Hasta hace poco al intentar entrar a la consola de comandos personal y emocional de Camaleón, resultó que me dije ¿Cómo es que se enviaran mensajes en formato de texto simple. Como siempre lo hago (aunque no lo parezca) fui a google y encontré la respuesta que es la siguiente: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/pipermail/reconquista-popular/2006-November/044291.html Ahora se que les llegara en formato de texto simple. Ahora buscaré nuevamente el significado top posting para corregir errores (aunque en alguna ocasión ya fue tema de conversación con ustedes les comento que ya olvide que es eso) Gracias Rantiscares -- Al juntarme dia tras dia con los Listeros, mi capacidad intelectual crece en proporcion inversa a la ignorancia generada. Gracias Linuxeros -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAL0xakBWLsY=nix5wepdq4mfq2be2dsmgjmomoxl_dwgj1n...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Filesystem features
Gracias Camaleón casualmente llegue a ese blog hoy antes de ver este mail. El trabajo de rodrigo es muy recomendable para los que le interesa el tema. Saludos Jorge El 4 de marzo de 2013 12:03, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:43:08 -0300, Jorge Segovia escribió: Buenas Noches, (ese html...) Alguien tiene idea con para que se utiliza la opción *filetype *en un filesystem. (...) Pues no :-) Pero seguro que alguien, en alguna parte del mundo se ha hecho ya la misma pregunta... preguntemos a Google: Extensiones de Ext2, Ext3 y Ext4 http://rodrigo.dualnot.com/extensiones-de-ext2/ Mira, en español y todo, qué bien :-P Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh2d40$knf$2...@ger.gmane.org
[OT] emacs para desarrollo web
Saludos lista! Hace poco utilice emacs para unas cuantas lineas en sml, para ello me baje el sml-mode el cual ademas de destacar el código ofrecía un REPL, esa fue mi primer experiencia con emacs, la cual me gusto mucho. Ahora he estado buscando como usar emacs para programación web, y en la web encuentro muy poco sobre el tema, apenas encuentro como instalar php-mode y html-mode pero leyendo por ahí encontré que estos generan conflicto al usarse juntos, aparte de eso faltaría un modulo para css y javascript y quizá algo para jQuery. Me pregunto si mas de alguno utiliza emacs para el desarrollo web? de ser así como puedo configurar emacs para las tecnologías web? He notado que programar en emacs puede llegar a ser muy eficiente utilizando sus combinaciones de teclas como debe de ser, y el tener varios buffers al mismo tiempo, eso me llama mucho la atención... Podría alguien ayudarme a preparar emacs para este fin? Lo que necesito es contar con modos que permitan la utilización de php,html, css, javascript (con jQuery, ajax) Se que es mucho lo que pido jejeje pero no encuentro mucho en internet, y no se donde más preguntar... Saludos, antemano gracias! -- El desarrollo no es material es un estado de conciencia metal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cadptsty9va8nn0mmbu_ngvcfqckgc3gtaafhpgrauvtjf_-...@mail.gmail.com
Regles d'utilisation de la mailing-list FRnOG / FRnOG mailing-list rules of usage
Bonjour, Afin d'aider à la catégorisation des e-mails, il est nécessaire de modifier le Sujet/Objet/Subject de celui-ci avec un Tag en fonction du contenu. Voici la règle à respecter pour poster sur cette mailing-list: | Sujet de votre e-mail | Tag à utiliser OU Destinataire à utiliser| |--| |Alerte ou Incident | [ALERT] || frnog-al...@frnog.org | | sur Internet ou un DC |||| |||| | Discussion technique |[TECH] || frnog-t...@frnog.org | |||| | Sujet Système / FLOSS |[MISC] || frnog-m...@frnog.org | | et/ou philosophique |||| |||| | Recherche ou annonce |[JOBS] || frnog-j...@frnog.org | | d'emploi sys réseau |||| |||| |Demande et réponse | [BIZ] ||frnog-...@frnog.org | | commerciale |||| | Offre ou annonce |||| | *interdite* sauf |||| | occasion ou don |||| Les adresses frnog-*@ modifient automatiquement votre message pour y inclure le bon tag dans le sujet (frnog-tech@ = Sujet: [TECH] ...). === ENGLISH === Hi, In order to help categorize e-mails it is now mandatory to tag the Subject depending on the content of your message. Here is the rule you have to follow for posting to this mailing-list: | Topic of your e-mail | Tag to use OR Recipient to use | |--| | Alert or Incident | [ALERT] || frnog-al...@frnog.org | | @ Internet or in a DC |||| |||| | Technical discussion |[TECH] || frnog-t...@frnog.org | |||| | System / FLOSS and/or |[MISC] || frnog-m...@frnog.org | | philosophical Topics |||| |||| | sys network job |[JOBS] || frnog-j...@frnog.org | |search offer |||| |||| | Sales QA | [BIZ] ||frnog-...@frnog.org | | Unsolicited |||| | offer or announcement |||| | is strictly forbidden |||| When you send to a frnog-*@ e-mail address, the tag is automatically inserted in the Subject. Cordialement / Sincerely, Philippe Bourcier
Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver
On 04.03.2013 03:04, Mark Filipak wrote:
On 2013/3/3 4:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
-big snip-
Why do you think you need a special driver?
Please type /sbin/ifconfig -a in your terminal to check whether you
have wlan0 device or not in the list.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
/sbin/ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:8b:dc:30:fd
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:18
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB) TX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)
pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ba:3e:86:e1:5a:91
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Well, 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9 is indeed the WiFi's NIC. So why can't I get to
the Ethernet, and why does everything I see on the Internet (when I'm in
Windows of course) say that I must obtain an Intel 3945ABG driver
because it's non-free? ...Come to me and fall on thy knees, and I will
set thee free!
Hi again Mark,
I'm not sure why all the articles you've found require you a special
driver(though it can be a serious reason for this). But i think that if
you have wlan0 interface you do not need anything else on your system.
There are a lot of software with GUI(NetworkManager, Wicd, ...)which
could help you to manage your wifi interface, but I think you can read
about it later when you find some time. To get internet working you can
use wpa_supplicant tool, it is a CLI tool, but it is very easy. At first
you should create a config-file with such content:
---
network={
ssid=home
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=very secret passphrase
}
---
Rename this file as wpa_supplicant.conf. I think that content is more or
less clear and you can adjust these parameters according your own needs.
Then you can start your wi-fi card by command:
sudo /sbin/wpa_supplicant -cwpa_supplicant.conf -iwlan0
I think the command is also easy to understand. I hope that after these
actions you'll get your wifi working till next reboot. Probably you will
need to assign an IP-address manually to your NIC.
I'd recommend you to read the man pages:
1) man wpa_supplicant
2) man wpa_supplicant.conf
And download an excellent book which you'll find here:
http://debian-handbook.info/
You can read it from time to time when you are in a public transport and
I think it will be a kind of an eye-opener for you.
--
From Russia with love,
Roman V.Leon.
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Re: Wheezy RC1 - Installing python:i386 on amd64 machine
Wow, thanks! I'll give it a try. one question though, will it be possible to run a command in the chrooted environment without having root in the original machine? the thing is, i need to execute the i386 software using a piece of software i wrote for the amd64 machine and would prefer no running my code under root. i saw some references to fakeroot and fakechroot, could it help? On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2013-03-03 22:36 +0100, nir izraeli wrote: I've been trying to install python2.7:i386 on an amd64 machine (i require it for another piece closed-source software that only has 32 bit support), and i'm having trouble doing that. You cannot really do that, I'm afraid. Since im using Wheezy RC1 i'm aware of the possibility that there's no solution available but i'd like to avoid installing native 32 bit OS because i need the extra RAM and performance. Also, debian 6 AFAIK only has python2.6 packages (with which i have other dependency issues) I'd like any suggestion i can get... Set up an i386 chroot and install python2.7 and your application there. The schroot package makes using such a setup relatively painless. user@vmdeb:~$ su -c apt-get install python2.7:i386 Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: python2.7:i386 : Depends: mime-support:i386 but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. user@vmdeb:~$ su -c apt-get install mime-support:i386 Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package mime-support:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'mime-support:i386' has no installation candidate The problem is that mime-support is an Architecture:all package, but not marked as Multi-Arch: foreign, so it does not fulfill dependencies of packages from foreign architectures. For details, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=695357. With the mime-support package in experimental, you should be theoretically able to install python2.7:i386, but since that package is not Multiarch: foreign either, many packages which depend on python2.7 (or just python) become uninstallabe, so this is not really an option. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txosdtyv@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Auto-emptying of trash.
Hello Sharon On 03/03/2013 11:04 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote: I'm trying to get a bash script working from a cron job that will empty trash of all files and directories that are older than $N [7 days in this case]. May be it is not what you need, but I look at package tmpreaper. -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh1pbg$sem$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Windows XP option not showing up after fresh install.
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:13:15AM +0800, Hormatzhan Yiltiz wrote: First, just curious why are you saying Debian 6 as new? It has been released several years ago. I assumed the new Debian 6 mean Debian 6.0.7 which was released on the 23rd of February. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
future of dbmail in Debian
Hi Debian I am using dbmail package [1] at home and at work for many years already. I just noticed that dbmail is not in Wheezy and is also kicked out from Sid (for i386). I found bug [2] telling that maintainer is not responding. 1. http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/dbmail 2. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672643 What is the current status of that package? I found that dbmail project is still active. There is even ready package from dbmail developers to install in Sid [3][4]. So why dbmail is not in Wheezy and not even in Sid? What needs to be done to get it back in Debian? 3. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.imap.dbmail/14263 4. http://debian.nfgd.net/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/mail/ If the problem is that package maintainer is not responding, can somebody else upload it please? -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh1rig$h0d$1...@ger.gmane.org
OT: Fruit (was Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised)
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 09:47:55PM -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: There is a tale in my country about an arrogant man that considered absurd that a pumpkin, being a large fruit, comes from a short plant, and the blackberry [1] comes from a tall tree although it is a tiny fruit. He kept thinking like this until he fell asleep under a blackberry tree and was awaken by a blackberry hitting his nose. Just for the record, I would consider cherry to be a better replacement than blackberry here. The Blackberry grows on a trailing bush with thorny tendrils. Although its fruit is small, it's unlikely anyone would sleep under one. A cherry, on the other hand, grows on a full-sized tree under which someone could conceivably sleep. In addition, the stone in the cherry would give added impact when falling one someone's nose :*) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Who may post on the list.
I ought not to quote from Mark without his permission, so I have firmly
pre-rapped my knuckles.
If there were a moderator I would be contacting her/him. As there is not, I
want the list's opinion, and it cannot give an opinion without the data.
As I see it Mark has no right to dictate what list members may or may not do
on-list, nor to lay down ground rules. And in my opinion the archives
matter. So if there is a simple answer it should be in the archives. My
reply to him has been bottom posted in the quotation.
quote
On Sunday 03 March 2013 23:34:48 Mark Filipak wrote:
Ms. Riesz,
You obviously do not read what people post.
When you see something on the list from me, kindly ignore it.
I've had quite enough abuse from you.
On 2013/3/3 6:23 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 03 March 2013 22:40:22 Mark Filipak wrote:
Comment: I submitted 'aptitude install wicd' because it was part of the
example I followed. Obviously, 'wicd' is not sufficient.
Why is it obviously not sufficient? I would have said that it was. But
you would need the right repositories and a connection to the net. On my
box:
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# aptitude install wicd
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libnl1{a} libpcsclite1{a} python-glade2{a} python-iniparse{a}
python-notify{a}
python-wicd{a} wicd wicd-daemon{a} wicd-gtk{a} wpasupplicant{a}
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,180 kB of archives. After unpacking 4,212 kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi#
As you see, just wicd would be fine. I aborted because I have no
wireless on this box and so don't actually want it installed.
Question: Why
didn't 'aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb' work?
If you want to install a .deb in that way, you need to use dpkg, as
mentioned by Joe:
From the directory that the deb is in:
dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had
used aptitude, and install them. Someone else will need to tell you how
to manage that from a box without internet access. I, when faced with
this problem, always temporarily install an old network card so that I
have got internet access to sort things out.
HTH
Lisi
You have absoluitely no right to tell me that I may or may not post to the
list. You have every right to delete my mails unread if you so wish - or,
more intelligently, set up a filter to kill-file them.
For the record, you have had no abuse of any kind from me.
Lisi Reisz
/quote
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Re: Who may post on the list.
Lisi Reisz wrote: I ought not to quote from Mark without his permission, so I have firmly pre-rapped my knuckles. If there were a moderator I would be contacting her/him. As there is not, I want the list's opinion, and it cannot give an opinion without the data. As I see it Mark has no right to dictate what list members may or may not do on-list, nor to lay down ground rules. [SNIP] Although an unmoderated mailing list is not USENET, I have observed that some of the same dynamics. There are people with rough edges who annoy enough people into kill filing them that they give up, go away, and bother another group. Alternatively they may receive the appropriate negative feedback which eventually smooths those rough edges. I'm also observing a third response in a USENET group. There's a guy, kill filed by most of the group, who occasionally says something worthwhile. That gets picked up and triggers useful discussion. Don't sweat it, group dynamics may work slowly but it does work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/513485a6.70...@cloud85.net
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 23:34:23 -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Brian wrote: fdisk leaves space at the beginning of the drive because GRUB requires it to embed part of itself there. But GRUB will not go there because it thinks it is overwriting data on the disk when it detects the iso9660 signature. This is by design. This is clearly a bug, because the disk has a partition table and therefore there is no useful data before the first partition. It might be advisable to read http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2009-10/msg00207.html before tackling the GRUB maintainers. The behaviour can be overridden but not with --force. D-I uses partman for partitioning. It too leaves an embedding area which contains the iso9660 data sector. The solution is to remember to do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=65 before partitioning. But this will destroy the partition table, which is not right if you have other operating systems or partitions containing data. Maybe 'grub-install --force device' would suffice? The act of writing the isohybrid destroys all data on the drive so at this point it is a bit late to worry about that. :) Should the need arise to target the specific sector with the iso9660 data on it then something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512 seek=63 count=64 could be used. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304113253.GX14686@desktop
Re: OT: Fruit (was Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised)
that's right or almost right. The story told of a pumpkin and an acorn. And when the man lied under the oak to have a sleep, he was actually awaken by a falling acorn that made his nose bleeding. This is why the big pumpkins grow from a shaggy grass. (sorry for my basic language) 2013/3/4, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 09:47:55PM -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: There is a tale in my country about an arrogant man that considered absurd that a pumpkin, being a large fruit, comes from a short plant, and the blackberry [1] comes from a tall tree although it is a tiny fruit. He kept thinking like this until he fell asleep under a blackberry tree and was awaken by a blackberry hitting his nose. Just for the record, I would consider cherry to be a better replacement than blackberry here. The Blackberry grows on a trailing bush with thorny tendrils. Although its fruit is small, it's unlikely anyone would sleep under one. A cherry, on the other hand, grows on a full-sized tree under which someone could conceivably sleep. In addition, the stone in the cherry would give added impact when falling one someone's nose :*) -- linux user #521635 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAP-pvzTGZGAv4dYgPNXi_3k5ip_u1r=4isBAdtfVs8f_Gm1=2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Who may post on the list.
Dear Lisi, On 3/4/13, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: ... If there were a moderator I would be contacting her/him. As there is not, I want the list's opinion, and it cannot give an opinion without the data. As I see it Mark has no right to dictate what list members may or may not do on-list, nor to lay down ground rules. Mark has a right of free speech, as do you. This is a public mailing list. As such, he has a right to say what he likes. As do you. Similarly, he is with the right to lay down as many ground rules as he so chooses. Just as you are attempting to do here :) Of course, certain individuals, apparently yourself included, may take some netiquette-offense to his free expressions. Just as it seems that he has similarly taken some from yourself. If Mark seeks a response from yourself to his technical questions, then he may wish to moderate his ground rules, but nothing can bind his right of free speech in this way, other than his own free will. With the power of a freedom, one may wish to exercise moderation, or whatever one's own idea of wisdom is. With the exercise of a freedom, one may discover consequences other than (perhaps naively) expected :) Oh the joys of being human in a world of other humans :) :) Lisi, I consider it a good thing that you feel strongly enough about your position to voice it publicly. The spirit of learning in action. Regards Zenaan PS: Dear Mark, welcome to the list. Great to see your endeavours in regards to Debian etc, as well as your 'broad shoulders'; such can be a great asset navigating the wild and woolly world or freedom-loving libre-tech people. And in my opinion the archives matter. So if there is a simple answer it should be in the archives. My reply to him has been bottom posted in the quotation. quote On Sunday 03 March 2013 23:34:48 Mark Filipak wrote: Ms. Riesz, You obviously do not read what people post. When you see something on the list from me, kindly ignore it. I've had quite enough abuse from you. On 2013/3/3 6:23 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 03 March 2013 22:40:22 Mark Filipak wrote: Comment: I submitted 'aptitude install wicd' because it was part of the example I followed. Obviously, 'wicd' is not sufficient. Why is it obviously not sufficient? I would have said that it was. But you would need the right repositories and a connection to the net. On my box: ... HTH Lisi You have absoluitely no right to tell me that I may or may not post to the list. You have every right to delete my mails unread if you so wish - or, more intelligently, set up a filter to kill-file them. For the record, you have had no abuse of any kind from me. Lisi Reisz /quote -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqyxhosbfxfqt6ghu2etex34tbkvskbni+t7gjulkq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Who may post on the list.
On Monday 04 March 2013 12:52:54 Zenaan Harkness wrote: Mark has a right of free speech, as do you. This is a public mailing list. As such, he has a right to say what he likes. As do you. Yes, of course! And we each can kill-file each other. :-) I hadn't thought of it in those terms. I was thinking of list rules. But you are, of course, correct. He is free to object. I am free to ignore him. Just as I am free to reply and he is free to ignore me. Thank you, Zenaan. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303041354.51097.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Who may post on the list.
Hi, if you don't mind me asking - how old are you too? - nir On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 March 2013 12:52:54 Zenaan Harkness wrote: Mark has a right of free speech, as do you. This is a public mailing list. As such, he has a right to say what he likes. As do you. Yes, of course! And we each can kill-file each other. :-) I hadn't thought of it in those terms. I was thinking of list rules. But you are, of course, correct. He is free to object. I am free to ignore him. Just as I am free to reply and he is free to ignore me. Thank you, Zenaan. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303041354.51097.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Who may post on the list.
Lisi Reisz wrote: snip For those persons getting tired of these non-technical posts, check out debian user spanish. High quality posts and replies and Camaleón is still there. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh2aki$4nd$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Who may post on the list.
On Monday 04 March 2013 14:01:57 nir izraeli wrote: if you don't mind me asking - how old are you too? I don't mind you asking, but what is the relevance? Since I have just criticised someone else for telling us all his age, on the grounds that it wasn't relevant, don't you think it would be somewhat hypocritical of me to do the same?? ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303041422.05621.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Windows XP option not showing up after fresh install.
Michael wrote: On 03/03/2013 08:13 PM, Hormatzhan Yiltiz wrote: First, just curious why are you saying Debian 6 as new? It has been released several years ago. For your question, you may want to drop to root and run grub-update and grub-install /dev/sdX where sdX might be /dev/sda in your case. I ran the command: grub-install /dev/sda and my rebooted. The Win XP now shows up in the list. However, my Debian install does not! My options are back to what they were before I installed Debian, which are Mint and XP. You ran 'grub-install /dev/sda' and 'update-grub'? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kh2buh$hdr$1...@ger.gmane.org
Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? I was previously running Ubuntu but there are problems in the Ubuntu X11 server code that cause the touchscreen to be unusable. I realize this system is _NOT_ going to be a performance machine. I plan on using it for text editing (in laptop mode using keyboard) and taking handwritten notes (in slate mode) -- it's a TabletPC that used to run Windows XP. WinXP SP3 is now so large and slow it takes up to 5 minutes to load from a power-on (the system was developed and deployed before there even was a service pack for WinXP). I really like the EMR (electro-magnetic-resistive) pen on this device and would like to make it usable again. I know Fedora (at least version 17 and 18) has checks in place to prevent installation on low memory systems. Does Debian have a similar restriction? I was previously running Fedora 16 on much more capable hardware (Tecra M4) but a catastropic system board failure has me trying to resurrect this old TabletPC (Acer TravelMate C100). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/6a40b310d7efc840a22cbf165d914e2902be9...@wcexch3.ctdi.com
Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
On Mar 4, 2013 4:49 PM, Steven Grunza sgru...@ctdi.com wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? I was previously running Ubuntu but there are problems in the Ubuntu X11 server code that cause the touchscreen to be unusable. I realize this system is _NOT_ going to be a performance machine. I plan on using it for text editing (in laptop mode using keyboard) and taking handwritten notes (in slate mode) -- it's a TabletPC that used to run Windows XP. WinXP SP3 is now so large and slow it takes up to 5 minutes to load from a power-on (the system was developed and deployed before there even was a service pack for WinXP). I really like the EMR (electro-magnetic-resistive) pen on this device and would like to make it usable again. I know Fedora (at least version 17 and 18) has checks in place to prevent installation on low memory systems. Does Debian have a similar restriction? I was previously running Fedora 16 on much more capable hardware (Tecra M4) but a catastropic system board failure has me trying to resurrect this old TabletPC (Acer TravelMate C100). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/6a40b310d7efc840a22cbf165d914e2902be9...@wcexch3.ctdi.com I had a home dhcpdns server running on a 800MHz CPU with 128 MB memory. No GUI, but once booted the device did its job. I have replaced that with a 512 MB Raspberry Pi. So, yes, it is possible. You probably won't be able to use Gnome or KDE, but as long as you have time to try them out, there are plenty other light Desktop Environments out there. Good luck! -- Sent from my Brick (TM)
Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
Dear Steven, Steven Grunza wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? Installing the system shouldn’t be a problem. I realize this system is _NOT_ going to be a performance machine. I plan on using it for text editing (in laptop mode using keyboard) and taking handwritten notes (in slate mode) However, I don’t know whether the tablet will work. If Ubuntu had problems, chances are that Debian (and in fact, any Linux) has the same problems. I know Fedora (at least version 17 and 18) has checks in place to prevent installation on low memory systems. Does Debian have a similar restriction? Yes. Last time I tried, it complained with less than 96 MB and switched to a special mode at less than 64 MB, though that was 2-3 years ago, IIRC. 256 MB should be perfectly fine. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304145850.65a6a...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
On 04.03.2013 18:49, Steven Grunza wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? I was previously running Ubuntu but there are problems in the Ubuntu X11 server code that cause the touchscreen to be unusable. I realize this system is _NOT_ going to be a performance machine. I plan on using it for text editing (in laptop mode using keyboard) and taking handwritten notes (in slate mode) -- it's a TabletPC that used to run Windows XP. WinXP SP3 is now so large and slow it takes up to 5 minutes to load from a power-on (the system was developed and deployed before there even was a service pack for WinXP). I really like the EMR (electro-magnetic-resistive) pen on this device and would like to make it usable again. I know Fedora (at least version 17 and 18) has checks in place to prevent installation on low memory systems. Does Debian have a similar restriction? I was previously running Fedora 16 on much more capable hardware (Tecra M4) but a catastropic system board failure has me trying to resurrect this old TabletPC (Acer TravelMate C100). Hi Steven. I'm sure you will be able to install Debian 7, but unfortunately neither KDE nor GNOME will be usable with such amount of memory. If I were you i would choose Openbox WM, you can try XFCE also, but I'm in doubt. I've just tried to run Debian netinst CD in my virtualbox with 256MB and the installer works fine. Good luck ;-) -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134bdc9.5090...@meta.ua
Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
On 03/04/2013 05:29 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote: ...If I were you i would choose Openbox WM, you can try XFCE also, but I'm in doubt... A plain window manager like OpenBox would be the way to go. FVWM still has a lot of good use, especially with the FVWM-crystal theme. XFCE is a desktop environment and probably too heavy. The smallest WM might be Oroborus. Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134c1d9.5050...@gmail.com
Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 09:49:12AM -0500, Steven Grunza wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? I was previously running Ubuntu but there are problems in the Ubuntu X11 server code that cause the touchscreen to be unusable. Before you do anything, make sure the same problems don't exist in Debian's xorg. I know Fedora (at least version 17 and 18) has checks in place to prevent installation on low memory systems. Does Debian have a similar restriction? Squeeze does not. I've installed Squeeze on several memory-constrained systems. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304154824.gb3...@daikon.vrg.org
Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
On 04/03/13 09:49 AM, Steven Grunza wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? I was previously running Ubuntu but there are problems in the Ubuntu X11 server code that cause the touchscreen to be unusable. I realize this system is _NOT_ going to be a performance machine. I plan on using it for text editing (in laptop mode using keyboard) and taking handwritten notes (in slate mode) -- it's a TabletPC that used to run Windows XP. WinXP SP3 is now so large and slow it takes up to 5 minutes to load from a power-on (the system was developed and deployed before there even was a service pack for WinXP). I really like the EMR (electro-magnetic-resistive) pen on this device and would like to make it usable again. I know Fedora (at least version 17 and 18) has checks in place to prevent installation on low memory systems. Does Debian have a similar restriction? I was previously running Fedora 16 on much more capable hardware (Tecra M4) but a catastropic system board failure has me trying to resurrect this old TabletPC (Acer TravelMate C100). I have Debian running on two low-spec'd laptops without issues. I'd suggest LXDE as a good Window manager for low-memory systems. You can install Debian on almost anything however performance can be an issue depending on what you install. You can also look at the distros designed specifically for older hardware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134c282.6070...@rogers.com
Not for me.
Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In private messages with some list members I advocated for focus testing. I now realize that this list *is* the focus test. That's too bad as I expect most of the list doesn't know or want that. Since this list is not attended by developers, I'll minimize my bandwidth load by being brief. Should anyone want my focus test conclusions regarding Debian, I'd be happy to document them, but lacking at least one request from a serious maintainer (or a developer if one should emerge), I'll not waste my time on something that doesn't have a ready and attentive audience. Also, if anyone has a suggestion on which Linux tribe I should join, I'd welcome it. I believe you all have my email address. I want a Linux system so I can remove networking from Windows XP. I don't trust Windows and when XP loses support next year, I'll be cut off. So I want to use Linux as a computer-hostable Internet appliance. Understand, that's the only use I will make of Linux, at least for the foreseeable future. I'll continue to use Windows XP for engineering and other projects, only as an isolated operating system without networking. I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is, this list would be flooded by people exactly like me. Regards, Ciao, and Good Luck - Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134c4d6.5020...@gmail.com
RE: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
-Original Message- From: Claudius Hubig [mailto:debian_1...@chubig.net] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:59 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC Dear Steven, Steven Grunza wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? Installing the system shouldn’t be a problem. I realize this system is _NOT_ going to be a performance machine. I plan on using it for text editing (in laptop mode using keyboard) and taking handwritten notes (in slate mode) However, I don’t know whether the tablet will work. If Ubuntu had problems, chances are that Debian (and in fact, any Linux) has the same problems. From what I could tell the Ubuntu project is getting ready to move from X11 to something else and some of the preparations for that change appear to be causing the problems. I had the same touchscreen problems on my Tecra M4 with Ubuntu but resolved them by moving to Fedora. I'll give Debian a try and see how it goes...
Missing Packages.gz file in debian-6.0.7-amd64-DVD-8.iso image
Hi, In debian-6.0.0-amd64-DVD-8.iso image the file Packages.gz exist but in debian-6.0.7-amd64-DVD-8.iso it doesn't! This cause an apt-get update error. I don't know which package affect this bug... root@mitas:~# mount -o ro,loop /media/sdb1/sqeeze/debian-6.0.0-amd64-DVD-8.iso /mnt/ root@mitas:~# ls -l /mnt/dists/squeeze/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages.gz -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1,2K 5 feb 2011 /mnt/dists/squeeze/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages.gz root@mitas:~# umount /mnt/ root@mitas:~# mount -o ro,loop /media/sdb1/sqeeze/debian-6.0.7-amd64-DVD-8.iso /mnt/ root@mitas:~# ls -l /mnt/dists/squeeze/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages.gz ls: impossibile accedere a /mnt/dists/squeeze/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: No such file or directory bye, -- Franco Martelli. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134c760.4050...@gmail.com
Re: Who may post on the list.
On 03/04/2013 05:47 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: I ought not to quote from Mark without his permission, so I have firmly pre-rapped my knuckles. If there were a moderator I would be contacting her/him. As there is not, I want the list's opinion, and it cannot give an opinion without the data. As I see it Mark has no right to dictate what list members may or may not do on-list, nor to lay down ground rules. And in my opinion the archives matter. So if there is a simple answer it should be in the archives. My reply to him has been bottom posted in the quotation. /snip--quotation(s) deleted/ You have absoluitely no right to tell me that I may or may not post to the list. You have every right to delete my mails unread if you so wish - or, more intelligently, set up a filter to kill-file them. For the record, you have had no abuse of any kind from me. Lisi Reisz /quote Atta girl, Lisi, give him hell! --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134cbc5.4030...@optonline.net
Re: Not for me.
On 03/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In private messages with some list members I advocated for focus testing. I now realize that this list *is* the focus test. That's too bad as I expect most of the list doesn't know or want that. Since this list is not attended by developers, I'll minimize my bandwidth load by being brief. Should anyone want my focus test conclusions regarding Debian, I'd be happy to document them, but lacking at least one request from a serious maintainer (or a developer if one should emerge), I'll not waste my time on something that doesn't have a ready and attentive audience. Also, if anyone has a suggestion on which Linux tribe I should join, I'd welcome it. I believe you all have my email address. I want a Linux system so I can remove networking from Windows XP. I don't trust Windows and when XP loses support next year, I'll be cut off. So I want to use Linux as a computer-hostable Internet appliance. Understand, that's the only use I will make of Linux, at least for the foreseeable future. I'll continue to use Windows XP for engineering and other projects, only as an isolated operating system without networking. I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is, this list would be flooded by people exactly like me. Regards, Ciao, and Good Luck - Mark. Flooded with people who had trouble with the installer because they didn't read the documentation and start blaming everyone when they can't figure out why they couldn't install the system as a result? Most people who switch to Linux and have issues at least have an open mind about these things instead of approaching asking for help with hostility. Chances are, though, most people will be able to install Debian just fine if they take just ten extra minutes to RTFM, like you should have. And certainly would not hijack an entire mailing list for almost a week acting like everyone owes them an explanation for why *they* couldn't get the system to work, blaming the process, the developers, and the people who tried to *help* for your negligence in reading documentation or in providing and clarifying relevant details. I am curious how you intend to get Windows XP to use your Linux box as a gateway without networking. It still seems to me like you're still exposing the Windows XP box anyway. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134d886.9030...@marupa.net
Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline
Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org wrote: The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline export TERM=ansi80x25 printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard. Please can you try this (before you do an export TERM): tput smul; echo perhaps this is underlined; tput rmul This uses the proper characteristics for the terminal you've declared (which may - or may not - be ESC [ 4m). Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hg0f0axh2g@news.roaima.co.uk
Graduate Education Programs - A Business Resource
Hi there, I am a researcher for an online project that, in conjunction with the National Center for Education Statistics, created a National Education Index for students interested in pursuing a business degree across the US. I was wondering if you're responsible for maintaining debian.com/News/weekly/2003/28? We've collected and compiled data from more than 19,000 education programs at 2,240 universities throughout the nation, and have packaged that data into an easy-to-use database that you will not only find insightful, but extremely useful. I strongly believe this database, along with all of our other featured resources, would be a great complement to your website for students interested in furthering their education. So far, over 200 universities and governmental agencies have utilized this database project for their communities. I thought this might be of interest to you and I'm curious if you'd like to see it. Please let me know and I'll send it over. Thanks for your time. I hope to hear from you soon! Victoria Baker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/uhug4y4r-tty6-qafd-m5i-lowwlixcj...@gmail.com
Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline
On 03/04/2013 11:59 AM, Chris Davies wrote: Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org wrote: The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline export TERM=ansi80x25 printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard. Please can you try this (before you do an export TERM): tput smul; echo perhaps this is underlined; tput rmul This uses the proper characteristics for the terminal you've declared (which may - or may not - be ESC [ 4m). Chris I've been looking at this thread for a while, and decided to try the tput stuff, and it works on the Konsole-terminal in pclos. Just in case anyone cares. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134e424.9020...@optonline.net
Re: Not for me.
Yaro Kasear schreef: On 03/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In private messages with some list members I advocated for focus testing. I now realize that this list *is* the focus test. That's too bad as I expect most of the list doesn't know or want that. Since this list is not attended by developers, I'll minimize my bandwidth load by being brief. Should anyone want my focus test conclusions regarding Debian, I'd be happy to document them, but lacking at least one request from a serious maintainer (or a developer if one should emerge), I'll not waste my time on something that doesn't have a ready and attentive audience. Also, if anyone has a suggestion on which Linux tribe I should join, I'd welcome it. I believe you all have my email address. I want a Linux system so I can remove networking from Windows XP. I don't trust Windows and when XP loses support next year, I'll be cut off. So I want to use Linux as a computer-hostable Internet appliance. Understand, that's the only use I will make of Linux, at least for the foreseeable future. I'll continue to use Windows XP for engineering and other projects, only as an isolated operating system without networking. I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is, this list would be flooded by people exactly like me. Regards, Ciao, and Good Luck - Mark. Flooded with people who had trouble with the installer because they didn't read the documentation and start blaming everyone when they can't figure out why they couldn't install the system as a result? Most people who switch to Linux and have issues at least have an open mind about these things instead of approaching asking for help with hostility. Chances are, though, most people will be able to install Debian just fine if they take just ten extra minutes to RTFM, like you should have. And certainly would not hijack an entire mailing list for almost a week acting like everyone owes them an explanation for why *they* couldn't get the system to work, blaming the process, the developers, and the people who tried to *help* for your negligence in reading documentation or in providing and clarifying relevant details. I am curious how you intend to get Windows XP to use your Linux box as a gateway without networking. It still seems to me like you're still exposing the Windows XP box anyway. Regards. hi yaro, i agree completely with your remarks. i did not mix up in this *discussion* (except only one short remark) when i came back from the gambia because i considered it as completely useless to *talk* to a guy who did not take the trouble to read the documentation and - indeed- WE HAVE SEEN THEM BEFORE AND WILL SEE THEM IN THE FUTURE. let us keep tolerant. kind regards, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134e1f5.2020...@home.nl
Re: Wheezy RC1 - Installing python:i386 on amd64 machine
On 2013-03-04 09:43 +0100, nir izraeli wrote: one question though, will it be possible to run a command in the chrooted environment without having root in the original machine? Yes, with schroot this is possible. the thing is, i need to execute the i386 software using a piece of software i wrote for the amd64 machine and would prefer no running my code under root. i saw some references to fakeroot and fakechroot, could it help? With fakeroot you won't get anywhere, fakechroot - I don't know, the BTS lists some rather important bugs though. As I said, schroot would be my choice. Be sure to read its manpages. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87boazuhq9@turtle.gmx.de
Re: future of dbmail in Debian
On 2013-03-04 11:04 +0100, Sergey Spiridonov wrote: I am using dbmail package [1] at home and at work for many years already. I just noticed that dbmail is not in Wheezy and is also kicked out from Sid (for i386). I found bug [2] telling that maintainer is not responding. 1. http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/dbmail 2. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672643 What is the current status of that package? It has been removed from Debian, see http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dbmail.html. I found that dbmail project is still active. There is even ready package from dbmail developers to install in Sid [3][4]. So why dbmail is not in Wheezy and not even in Sid? What needs to be done to get it back in Debian? Somebody needs to re-package it. 3. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.imap.dbmail/14263 4. http://debian.nfgd.net/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/mail/ If the problem is that package maintainer is not responding, can somebody else upload it please? There is someone who volunteered, see http://bugs.debian.org/687803. However, that was six months ago and no sign of progress is visible. So you may want to ask the submitter of that bug if he's still interested (be sure to CC the bug report). Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/876217uhgw@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
Em 04-03-2013 08:32, Brian escreveu: On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 23:34:23 -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Brian wrote: fdisk leaves space at the beginning of the drive because GRUB requires it to embed part of itself there. But GRUB will not go there because it thinks it is overwriting data on the disk when it detects the iso9660 signature. This is by design. This is clearly a bug, because the disk has a partition table and therefore there is no useful data before the first partition. It might be advisable to read http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2009-10/msg00207.html before tackling the GRUB maintainers. The behaviour can be overridden but not with --force. That discussion seems absurd to me. Just put a flag --no-data-check to skip all possible data overwrite check on user request. D-I uses partman for partitioning. It too leaves an embedding area which contains the iso9660 data sector. The solution is to remember to do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=65 before partitioning. But this will destroy the partition table, which is not right if you have other operating systems or partitions containing data. Maybe 'grub-install --forcedevice' would suffice? The act of writing the isohybrid destroys all data on the drive so at this point it is a bit late to worry about that. :) In the present case, yes, but in general the installer cannot simply clear the partition table even if there is an isohybrid fragment in the mbr. The isohybrid may be ancient data that was later overwrited by a partition table. Should the need arise to target the specific sector with the iso9660 data on it then something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512 seek=63 count=64 could be used. Maybe this code could be placed in the installer just before calling grub-install. We are absolutely certain that this sector has no valuable data because there is a partition table. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134f0f6.6000...@nonada.if.usp.br
Re: Auto-emptying of trash.
Dňa 03.03.2013 23:04 Sharon Kimble wrote / napísal(a):
I'm trying to get a bash script working from a cron job that will empty
trash of all files and directories that are older than $N [7 days in
this case]. This partly works but is very inefficient in that it
doesn't delete everything that is available to be deleted, just tends
to leave stuff with no apparent reasoning.
The autotrash package was mentioned. I have this script:
#!/bin/bash
# remove files older than 10 days
OLD=10
#pre každý prípojný bod, ktorý je blokové zariadenie
for MOUNTPOINT in $(mount | egrep ^/dev | awk '{print $1 @ $3}'); do
#DEVICE=${MOUNTPOINT/@*}
#echo Debug: $DEVICE
PATH=${MOUNTPOINT#*@}
TRASH=${PATH}/.Trash-${UID}
if [ -d ${TRASH} ]; then
autotrash --days $OLD --trash-path $TRASH
fi
done
This script is regularly executed from my fcrontab, but you can call it
from the ~/.xsessionrc file. Script cheecks the mount points and the
.Trash-$UID directories, then executes the autotrash on these
directories (Trash's paths).
regards
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Re: OT: Fruit (was Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised)
Em 04-03-2013 09:48, albcares escreveu: that's right or almost right. The story told of a pumpkin and an acorn. And when the man lied under the oak to have a sleep, he was actually awaken by a falling acorn that made his nose bleeding. This is why the big pumpkins grow from a shaggy grass. (sorry for my basic language) Are you making this up now or this tale really exists in other countries than Brazil? Here this story is told by writer Monteiro Lobato, it is called The world reformer. 2013/3/4, Darac Marjalmailingl...@darac.org.uk: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 09:47:55PM -0300, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: There is a tale in my country about an arrogant man that considered absurd that a pumpkin, being a large fruit, comes from a short plant, and the blackberry [1] comes from a tall tree although it is a tiny fruit. He kept thinking like this until he fell asleep under a blackberry tree and was awaken by a blackberry hitting his nose. Just for the record, I would consider cherry to be a better replacement than blackberry here. The Blackberry grows on a trailing bush with thorny tendrils. Although its fruit is small, it's unlikely anyone would sleep under one. A cherry, on the other hand, grows on a full-sized tree under which someone could conceivably sleep. In addition, the stone in the cherry would give added impact when falling one someone's nose :*) Yes, of course a cherry would be much better. No one would sleep under a blackberry tree also because the fallen fruit on the ground can stain the clothes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134f333.7040...@nonada.if.usp.br
Re: Not for me.
So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? Em 04-03-2013 12:59, Mark Filipak escreveu: Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In private messages with some list members I advocated for focus testing. I now realize that this list *is* the focus test. That's too bad as I expect most of the list doesn't know or want that. Since this list is not attended by developers, I'll minimize my bandwidth load by being brief. Should anyone want my focus test conclusions regarding Debian, I'd be happy to document them, but lacking at least one request from a serious maintainer (or a developer if one should emerge), I'll not waste my time on something that doesn't have a ready and attentive audience. Also, if anyone has a suggestion on which Linux tribe I should join, I'd welcome it. I believe you all have my email address. I want a Linux system so I can remove networking from Windows XP. I don't trust Windows and when XP loses support next year, I'll be cut off. So I want to use Linux as a computer-hostable Internet appliance. Understand, that's the only use I will make of Linux, at least for the foreseeable future. I'll continue to use Windows XP for engineering and other projects, only as an isolated operating system without networking. I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is, this list would be flooded by people exactly like me. Regards, Ciao, and Good Luck - Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5134f76e.9070...@nonada.if.usp.br
Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:14:32 -0500 Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013/3/3 8:16 PM, Mr G wrote: -snip- $ id -snip- $ sudo updatedb -snip- $ mlocate firmware-iwlwfi.deb -snip- $ pwd Look at the terminal session below = mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su Password: root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb dpkg: error processing firmware-iwlwifi.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: firmware-iwlwifi.deb root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb Selecting previously deselected package firmware-iwlwifi. (Reading database ... 68697 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) ... Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ... = I don't think it's necessary for me to 'mlocate' or 'pwd', do you? 'firmware-iwlwifi.deb' is not right. It has to be 'firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb' This is the first real progress I've made since the installation succeeded. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Now, regarding a network manager, the terminal session below is from about 2 hours ago. Can you help with it? = root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb Selecting previously deselected package wicd. (Reading database ... 68689 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking wicd (from wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wicd: wicd depends on wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3); however: Package wicd-daemon is not installed. wicd depends on wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-client; however: Package wicd-gtk is not installed. Package wicd-curses is not installed. Package wicd-cli is not installed. Package wicd-client is not installed. dpkg: error processing wicd (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: wicd = There are uninstalled dependencies: wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) wicd-client When I do a google search for 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3 I find lots of stuff (too much stuff), including Python - gee, I've written Python server code - is that needed for this? Python aside, I don't know what to do next, so I'll wait for a push in a particular direction (and hope that it's not towards a cliff). No, it means the 1.7 version of each package named. Dependencies are usually of the form 'needs this or later version', so you don't know for sure if you don't have those packages at all, or just that your installed version is too old. Since wicd wasn't installed, the former is more likely. This is why we don't use dpkg unless we have to, and at the moment, you have to. The apt tools all work on complete Debian repositories, and mostly can work out and load all the dependencies of something you ask for. dpkg can only install the file you give it, so it just tells you when there are missing dependencies. The Debian website can tell you full details of each package, and what its dependencies are, but it's hard work doing it that way, one file at a time. Do you still have the install medium, and can you access that from the Debian system? If so, most of what you want will be on there. The most important file in the apt system is /etc/apt/sources.list. It should contain lines showing which repositories are in use, mostly in pairs, beginning 'deb' and 'deb-src' for compiled and source code packages. At the top of the list should be two commented lines that refer to the installation medium, they get commented out when the installation is complete, and working Internet repositories added. Try uncommenting those two lines, plugging in the install medium and seeing if the apt tools give you what you need. If it was a CD, there would be no doubt, but the uncertainties of USB mounting and naming may still give you a bit of trouble. There was once just a Debian CD1, which contained nearly everything a standard installation would need, but as software got bigger, and fewer people wanted Gnome or KDE, the ISOs have changed in nature. So I'm not certain that your installation medium does contain wicd and its dependencies, but that is the way I would bet. * * * OK, I've looked, wicd-daemon (server) and wicd-gtk (the GUI client) are on the CD image, and they are the only actual dependencies (wicd is itself a virtual package, containing no code itself, and brings in the daemon and one of the clients, -gtk in this case as -cli and -curses aren't on the
Re: Not for me.
Em 04-03-2013 17:09, Mark Filipak escreveu: On 2013/3/4 2:35 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? I didn't try, João Luis. For you, I will. No, not for me. This list is archived and new Debian users may read your postings and conclude that the GUI installer does not work or has lower quality. In fact, they may think that the whole Debian is low quality because your comments are all derogatory. After being able to install Debian with the kind and patient help of some list members, it is only fair that you contribute back giving the recipe on how to reproduce the bug or admit that it was your fault and the bug does not exist at all. It will take me an hour or two. It took much more that two man-hour to help you. This experience has brought me a realization - every problem comes with an opportunity in one of its hands, isn't that true? Oh yes, I'm sure that some people learned a lot here. Linux is not a GUI-OS. It's an X-Windows host. There's a big difference. The primary interaction with the Windows kernel is through GUIs. The primary interaction with the Linux kernel is through the command line. That's why Linux seems so hostile, and that realization should point the way to making it friendlier. Of primary importance: The first impression Linux makes during installation. How can someone who did not try the standard install tools come to that conclusion? You are simply wrong and leading others to err. João Luis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/513507c5.3020...@nonada.if.usp.br
Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline
On 03/04/13 10:12, Doug wrote: On 03/04/2013 11:59 AM, Chris Davies wrote: Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org wrote: The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline export TERM=ansi80x25 printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard. Please can you try this (before you do an export TERM): tput smul; echo perhaps this is underlined; tput rmul This uses the proper characteristics for the terminal you've declared (which may - or may not - be ESC [ 4m). Chris I've been looking at this thread for a while, and decided to try the tput stuff, and it works on the Konsole-terminal in pclos. Just in case anyone cares. --doug I tried so many things, the terminal is tired! tput... does the same as ESC[4m... Also, ncurses A_UNDERLILNE does the same Changes color to blue Ansi says exc[xxxm should change the color to blue if I use xxx=34 and exc[34;1m bold blue. This is a color display attached to a Raspberry Pi. If I startx, I can produce underlined text with printf \033[4This is underlined\033[0m But, this is a low powered CPU and I want a form on the screen. ncurses will give me most of what I want. Tom Dean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51350927.9010...@speakeasy.org
Re: Not for me.
On 03/04/2013 02:44 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 04-03-2013 17:09, Mark Filipak escreveu: On 2013/3/4 2:35 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? I didn't try, João Luis. For you, I will. No, not for me. This list is archived and new Debian users may read your postings and conclude that the GUI installer does not work or has lower quality. In fact, they may think that the whole Debian is low quality because your comments are all derogatory. After being able to install Debian with the kind and patient help of some list members, it is only fair that you contribute back giving the recipe on how to reproduce the bug or admit that it was your fault and the bug does not exist at all. It will take me an hour or two. It took much more that two man-hour to help you. This experience has brought me a realization - every problem comes with an opportunity in one of its hands, isn't that true? Oh yes, I'm sure that some people learned a lot here. Linux is not a GUI-OS. It's an X-Windows host. There's a big difference. The primary interaction with the Windows kernel is through GUIs. The primary interaction with the Linux kernel is through the command line. That's why Linux seems so hostile, and that realization should point the way to making it friendlier. Of primary importance: The first impression Linux makes during installation. How can someone who did not try the standard install tools come to that conclusion? You are simply wrong and leading others to err. João Luis. Not to mention off the mark. Most desktop-based Linux distributions have plenty enough X11-based tools available to keep a lot of users from having to open a terminal emulator unless they absolutely have to. But so what? I personally think the ooh, command line, therefore inferior mentality is only really put forward by people who an inferior understanding of how system software works. GUIs are 99.9% there to make things easy. And usually in doing so it's through the sacrifice of some *very* powerful usage. But when it comes to sheer flexibility, automation and speed? A flexible command line is way more powerful than a GUI. Saying that, I'm a KDE SC user on Arch Linux, and use Debian on my server. I don't use Windows unless I have to (And most certainly *not* on my server. I find Windows should not be on servers, ever.), and so far I have very few use cases requiring Windows. But I also have yakuake put in as a very speedy way to get a shell and do something that'd take me a little longer and restrict my options through a GUI. You can still run a very successful desktop system on Linux without installing Xorg server at any point. The only command line that hasn't modernized even a little bit is DOS. By the way, to Mark, neither the GUI or text-based installer are that hard to use. They only are if you stubbornly refuse to read documentation and treat those who help you with hostility. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51350a1a.2040...@marupa.net
Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 09:49:12AM -0500, Steven Grunza wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? I was previously running Ubuntu but there are problems in the Ubuntu X11 server code that cause the touchscreen to be unusable. I installed Squeeze with LXDE on an old laptop for someone I know. It was a P3, 500 MHz I think, with 256 MB RAM. It worked, but it was slow to boot and to open applications. But if you weren't too impatient, it was totally usable (except for flash video, if I recall correctly). -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304211026.gc1...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Not for me.
On 2013/3/4 3:44 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 04-03-2013 17:09, Mark Filipak escreveu: On 2013/3/4 2:35 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? I didn't try, João Luis. For you, I will. No, not for me. This list is archived and new Debian users may read your postings and conclude that the GUI installer does not work or has lower quality. In fact, they may think that the whole Debian is low quality because your comments are all derogatory. After being able to install Debian with the kind and patient help of some list members, it is only fair that you contribute back giving the recipe on how to reproduce the bug or admit that it was your fault and the bug does not exist at all. It will take me an hour or two. It took much more that two man-hour to help you. This experience has brought me a realization - every problem comes with an opportunity in one of its hands, isn't that true? Oh yes, I'm sure that some people learned a lot here. Linux is not a GUI-OS. It's an X-Windows host. There's a big difference. The primary interaction with the Windows kernel is through GUIs. The primary interaction with the Linux kernel is through the command line. That's why Linux seems so hostile, and that realization should point the way to making it friendlier. Of primary importance: The first impression Linux makes during installation. How can someone who did not try the standard install tools come to that conclusion? You are simply wrong and leading others to err. João Luis. You snake. I replied to you privately and you published my reply in public. I replicated the install bug, but I'm not going to play your game. Goodbye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/513509e1.7010...@gmail.com
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Re: Not for me.
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: You can still run a very successful desktop system on Linux without installing Xorg server at any point. The only command line that hasn't modernized even a little bit is DOS. I hate to be the one to break this to you, but DOS isn't around any more. I have a 2.5cm thick paperback on my bookshelf, 'Windows Command-Line', dated 2004 and based on XP/Server 2003. I've no idea how thick the current edition is. Mark is wrong, Windows is also a command-line OS. Originally it was indeed based on DOS 5, but hasn't been for more than 15 years. The Windows GUI is no more the OS than is X, and anyone who crashes the desktop and sees it recover without the daemons turning a hair will know this. It's part of the Windows marketing image that 'what you see is what it is', but there's no reason to assume that's the truth. Mind you, Windows 8 still contains Edlin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edlin -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304212605.4c05e...@jretrading.com
Re: Not for me.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:03 PM, steef debian.li...@home.nl wrote: i agree completely with your remarks. i did not mix up in this *discussion* (except only one short remark) when i came back from the gambia because i considered it as completely useless to *talk* to a guy who did not take the trouble to read the documentation and - indeed- WE HAVE SEEN THEM BEFORE AND WILL SEE THEM IN THE FUTURE. let us keep tolerant. I disagree. We shouldn't be tolerant of obstinate idiots. I kill-filed this particular one long ago (when he started a thread by putting conditions on who should reply and how) and wish that everyone had done so too in order not to pollute the d-u archives. I've skimmed through 1 out of 2 of the replies within these threads that have landed in my inbox and I didn't see any value in them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzFmfqJeHjYN1-6vk1AsX-=sokw-qjonjhzyqsgbve...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Not for me.
Le Lun 4 mars 2013 22:26, Joe a écrit : On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Mark is wrong, Windows is also a command-line OS. Hum... for windows 9x (and Me, and 3.x) ok, since they are based on MSDOS, but for NT family, there is no way to run it without graphical layer. In that family, the commandline is an option, unlike graphical modes, and unlike linux distributions, where the graphical stuff is optional. Well, I might be wrong, I'm not an admin... but if one here knows how to remove, say, explorer.exe, I would be very happy to learn how to, since it would mean I could replace the buggy (I stopped at windows XP, it may explain my harsh words... or not.) graphical stuff with something more stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/070320d485cf1cdc10c2c47e2b9a05e3.squir...@www.sud-ouest.org
OT: Windows, a command-line OS (Was: Re: Not for me.)
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:59:33 +0100 Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le Lun 4 mars 2013 22:26, Joe a écrit : On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Mark is wrong, Windows is also a command-line OS. Hum... for windows 9x (and Me, and 3.x) ok, since they are based on MSDOS, but for NT family, there is no way to run it without graphical layer. In that family, the commandline is an option, unlike graphical modes, and unlike linux distributions, where the graphical stuff is optional. I agree. I have done quite a bit of AV software testing, which in some cases involved a little bit of OS-breaking. I have never seen NT-like Windows without GUI. About the closest I could get was: * a desktop (read: single-colored background) with cmd.exe window, which IIRC you can achieve via one of Safe Mode options (torture F8 when booting) Yes, window just as you know it. So maybe explorer.exe is not running, but the window manager is. * visually, BSOD or bootup scandisk session is in text mode, maybe the latter could be interrupted somehow (?) Well, I might be wrong, I'm not an admin... but if one here knows how to remove, say, explorer.exe, I would be very happy to learn how to [...] Maybe a good start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_shell_replacement div class=tl;dr [...] since it would mean I could replace the buggy (I stopped at windows XP, it may explain my harsh words... or not.) graphical stuff with something more stable. Maybe I'm wearing pink glasses, maybe bugs are afraid of me, maybe it's kind of like Stockholm syndrome or maybe I'm just a lucky bastard. But I don't remember having real problems with explorer.exe in past like three years. (Win 7 but formerly XP at work...) (Or maybe my memory does a good editing job for me--Except for occasional gaming I have managed to avoid Win for almost three months now.) Also, about the CLI: I have also written quite bunch of cmd.exe scripts, and my experience is that basically what worked in 2000, worked the same all the way up to Win 8. For Windows CLI syntax, there has been some evolution (command.com = cmd.exe) which happened to turn the mess into a big mess. It was positive, though: with command.com, it was only spaghetti. With cmd.exe, it was like spaghetti ON STEROIDS. (Read: stronger than you and agressive to your brain.) /div Thanks, aL. -- Alois Mahdal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304233528.1c29a...@hugo.daonet.home
Re: Not for me.
On 05/03/13 09:53, Mark Filipak wrote: You snake. I replied to you privately and you published my reply in public. Agreed on this. Replying to a private email on a public list is bad form. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51352932.3040...@walnut.gen.nz
Startup-Manager (squeeze)
Hi, any idea why the startup-manager wont continue his task ? I've installed all what his needed grb2, grub-pc, etc.. The manager start and do a pre-configuration and stops. thanks
Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline
Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org wrote: I tried so many things, the terminal is tired! tput... does the same as ESC[4m... OK. The tput looked up your declared terminal type ($TERM) in the terminfo database and returned you the appropriate code assigned to start underline. So if it doesn't work then either the terminal type is wrongly defined (always possible) or the emulation/display you're using represents underline as green text. Ansi says exc[xxxm should change the color to blue if I use xxx=34 and exc[34;1m bold blue. Again, you can use tput to get the colour codes in a (relatively) terminal-independent way. See man 5 terminfo for (really) gory details. This is a color display attached to a Raspberry Pi. If I startx, I can produce underlined text with printf \033[4This is underlined\033[0m Ah. So your X Windows based emulator understands ESC [4m but your console window (without X Windows) doesn't. It appears that my console (TERM=linux) represents underline with cyan text. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bplf0axv4b@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: Missing Driver isci
Mustafa Aldemir, 4.03.2013: Hello, I just tried upgrading my Debian server. During the update, I got a message about a missing driver. Since it's a remote server, it will be a disaster if it has a problem with ethernet driver. What should I do before restarting to avoid problems? Setting up linux-base (2.6.32-48squeeze1) ... Setting up linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-48squeeze1) ... Running depmod. Running update-initramfs. update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/isci/isci_firmware.bin for module isci best wishes... Mustafa http://mustafa.aldemir.net On my wheezy system here, running apt-file search isci_firmware.bin shows me that that file is in the firmware-linux-free package. And looking at the description for firmware-linux-free, I see Intel C600 SAS/SATA controller default parameters, version 1.3 (isci/isci_firmware.bin) However, it looks like the squeeze version of firmware-linux-free doesn't include it, so you can try installing the wheezy version of that package (or alternatively, download the wheezy .deb, extract the firmware file you want, and put it in /lib/firmware/isci/ manually). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304233024.gb15...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Not for me.
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:59:33 +0100 Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le Lun 4 mars 2013 22:26, Joe a écrit : On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Mark is wrong, Windows is also a command-line OS. Hum... for windows 9x (and Me, and 3.x) ok, since they are based on MSDOS, but for NT family, there is no way to run it without graphical layer. In that family, the commandline is an option, unlike graphical modes, and unlike linux distributions, where the graphical stuff is optional. Well, I might be wrong, I'm not an admin... but if one here knows how to remove, say, explorer.exe, I would be very happy to learn how to, since it would mean I could replace the buggy (I stopped at windows XP, it may explain my harsh words... or not.) graphical stuff with something more stable. I didn't say it could be run without the GUI, and in fact there's no doubt that Microsoft went out of its way to prevent that happening. The whole thrust of Windows marketing is visual, and for someone to find a way to turn off the GUI would be a massive propaganda coup. I remember when someone proved that Win98 could run without Internet Explorer installed, contrary to what Microsoft explicitly stated. Windows 3.11 was the last version where the GUI was explicitly run on top of a command-line OS. That *is* a fundamental difference between Windows and Linux, but it doesn't mean that every aspect of Windows can *only* be controlled using the GUI, or indeed controlled through the GUI at all. You can no more run a graphical Windows application without a GUI than you can run a graphical Linux application without a GUI. I'd hate to try to design a PCB layout on either OS without being able to see it displayed as I worked, even though I could theoretically do it by writing a list of suitable values to a text file. But control of the OS, the nuts and bolts, is all via the command line. There are certainly GUI admin tools, but as with Linux, they generally offer convenience and speed, but only a subset of the full control options. And not always convenience: I can look up many networking parameters through various dialogue boxes, but to see it all quickly, the command-line ipconfig is somewhat similar to ifconfig. If I want to create a contact in the Exchange Global Address List, I do it with part of the Exchange Manager GUI. If I want to import or export lots of such contacts, I use a command-line LDIF or CSV import/export tool, working directly into Active Directory, because the GUI doesn't offer any means of doing that. From any command line in the domain, given suitable credentials, I can read and modify a domain controller's Active Directory using a command-line LDAP query tool. Many parts of AD can be accessed by GUI tools, but certainly not all of it. And so on... It has to be that way, as under the domain security model, many of the computers' configurations, both server and workstation, are enforced from the central LDAP database, Active Directory, so everything has to be scriptable. The domain controller cannot operate a workstation's firewall by moving a mouse pointer around, even if that's how a human user does it. The infamous Registry is a database of numbers and strings, not desktop coordinates, and *that* can be remotely written to using a command-line tool. And the Registry is the Windows /etc/*, and AD is basically the /etc/* for an entire organisation. If we have two interfaces to a system, one much more powerful than the other, it is easy to see which is the 'real' one, and which one lies on top of the other. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304233708.7566d...@jretrading.com
Re: Not for me.
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:07:30 +1300 Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: On 05/03/13 09:53, Mark Filipak wrote: You snake. I replied to you privately and you published my reply in public. Agreed on this. Replying to a private email on a public list is bad form. Yes, although this particular poster spent a lot of time replying to both, and the personal one usually arrives before the other has crawled through the list administration system. It would be easy to assume this was another dual-destination message. I have to admit I wouldn't bother checking the headers in the case of this poster. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304234122.1b2d3...@jretrading.com
Re: Missing Driver isci
Hi, I read that proprietary drivers were removed from Debian kernel 2.6.29 onwards, and this may be one of them. Do you think Wheezy version will work on it? I must be 100% sure before rebooting. bye, Mustafa http://mustafa.aldemir.net From: Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:30 AM Subject: Re: Missing Driver isci Mustafa Aldemir, 4.03.2013: Hello, I just tried upgrading my Debian server. During the update, I got a message about a missing driver. Since it's a remote server, it will be a disaster if it has a problem with ethernet driver. What should I do before restarting to avoid problems? Setting up linux-base (2.6.32-48squeeze1) ... Setting up linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-48squeeze1) ... Running depmod. Running update-initramfs. update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/isci/isci_firmware.bin for module isci best wishes... Mustafa http://mustafa.aldemir.net On my wheezy system here, running apt-file search isci_firmware.bin shows me that that file is in the firmware-linux-free package. And looking at the description for firmware-linux-free, I see Intel C600 SAS/SATA controller default parameters, version 1.3 (isci/isci_firmware.bin) However, it looks like the squeeze version of firmware-linux-free doesn't include it, so you can try installing the wheezy version of that package (or alternatively, download the wheezy .deb, extract the firmware file you want, and put it in /lib/firmware/isci/ manually). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304233024.gb15...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Not for me.
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:59:18AM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: snip I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is, this list would be flooded by people exactly like me. God forbid! -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Not for me.
On 5 March 2013 00:53, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:59:18AM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: snip I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is, this list would be flooded by people exactly like me. God forbid! I think we can all agree that Mr. Filipak is a one-in-a-million. (Also, simple arithmetic suggests that if Debian became suddenly twice as popular as it is now, the list would be 'flooded' by exactly two people like him.) H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAErRyQiPDrLPOaW2=6BmtooTyxQNW=xfoejpvpxu4zynnob...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Not for me.
On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises that refuse to upgrade some of their infrastructure. It's also used by people who, many years ago, paid for a vital system which runs on DOS, and nowadays can't pay for a better modern system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51355376.5090...@gmail.com
Re: Not for me.
On 03/04/2013 08:07 PM, William Ivanski wrote: On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises that refuse to upgrade some of their infrastructure. It's also used by people who, many years ago, paid for a vital system which runs on DOS, and nowadays can't pay for a better modern system. Well that's mostly what I meant by enterprises that refuse to upgrade some of their infrastructure. I do know sometimes a company can't or won't upgrade their equipment. My own company is only just this year moving away from our onlly DOS software for in-house web stuff that does the same things, but better. Due in no small part to the bit rot of the ancient DOS software we've been using. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5135576e.3030...@marupa.net
Re: Not for me.
On 03/04/2013 09:07 PM, William Ivanski wrote: On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises that refuse to upgrade some of their infrastructure. It's also used by people who, many years ago, paid for a vital system which runs on DOS, and nowadays can't pay for a better modern system Well, it's also used, occasionally, by people who have software the equivalent of which does not exist on a modern system. In addition to programs that were specifically written by a user to solve some problem, there are some commercial programs that have no modern equivalent. One that comes immediately to mind is Eureka, which I think was sold by Borland. Eureka will solve math problems using standard keyboard notation, ala BASIC, which to my mind is much easier to deal with than something like MathCad. If you've ever tried to enter an equation into MathCad, without months of previous experience, you'll know exactly what I mean. I have a DosBox routine installed specifically to run Eureka, which fortunately is now in the public domain. (I once had the non-free floppy disks, but even if I could find them, they are probably unreadable by this time. Or they were 5¼, which amounts to the same thing.) Another program, which I used until I retired in 2002 was EEsof's Touchstone. An extremely expensive RF cad program, it worked with netlist inputs. When HP bought the company, they imposed their graphical interface, which would have worked really nicely if you had a screen about 4 feet by 5 feet to draw your circuit on! I suppose a 30 screen would have worked, but nobody had one in those days. What you could do in two typed pages of netlist would fit nicely on a D- or E-sized drawing, graphically. Sure, you sketched it out on several pieces of paper first by hand, but you didn't put in 4 or 5 parameters for every last component like HP required. There is no modern equivalent that I know of, and the old program is not available at any price. This is progress? (I'm only kidding about that last remark--I wouldn't give up my GUI, but I could wish that some of the old smarts still existed. If you think that the modern graphical approach is so great, try taking pictures outdoors with one of those nice 2 x 3 LCD displays. Give me an eye-level viewfinder any day!) --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51355d14.7050...@optonline.net
