Re: wacky question

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 22:24 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 21 June 2013 22:07:01 Greg wrote:
> > > I agree with you, but they are still not dangerous for me, since I'm a
> > > German. If my own country will get even harmless data, it's different
> > > for me. I guess most us aren't from the USA, since this is an
> > > international mailing list. This thread, perhaps should be moved to the
> > > off-topic list?
> 
> You have missed the point, Ralf.  The USA government is collecting all its 
> data, but it is only using the information for non-Americans.  I.e. for you 
> and me.  Tor is beginning to sound more attractive by the email at the 
> moment!

What are they collecting? The emails I write to Linux mailing lists,
perhaps the mails to Jack devel, "Jack-Devel Private Archives
Authentication":
http://lists.jackaudio.org/private.cgi/jack-devel-jackaudio.org/

Do they collect my mails to Debian user, an open mailing list?

And then, will they hijack me and bring me to Guantanamo, because I
dislike Obama? More likely I run into issues because I dislike Mrs.
Merkel.



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Re: wacky question

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:23 -0400, Greg wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 20:40 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> > Dňa 20.06.2013 17:12 Greg  wrote / napísal(a):
> > 
> > > I'm just wondering what debian does to check and protect its users, so
> > > fuck me, right?
> > 
> > Your protection is your responsibility. The Debian (and other OS) can
> > only help you with this. Of course, some can do it better and another
> > no. An some can criminalize you, when you want to see what is inside (by
> > license violation), but these last are then taking responsibility, but
> > do you really want to loose your own responsibility?
> > 
> > IMO, if you want to transmit your responsibility, you must select
> > another model of OS, than Debian is.
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> 
> So I have no right to ask to to even think about how software is built
> or made available by debian? To protect myself I have but to debug every
> line of code I use and build it all myself, on CPU's I forged in my
> backyard smithy? Perhaps I could launch my own satellites to ensure safe
> global access to a self-made internet. Iran has gone down that path,
> perhaps we should all do likewise, or just go live in a cave or use
> openbsd machines with the network cards pulled out? What if they get to
> Theo? Then I'm done for!

An electromagnetic isolated cave is a good idea.

Btw. what if somebody knows how to do prime factrisaton?
http://www.mathsisfun.com/prime-factorization.html


PS: d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org is a serious list for
such kinds of discussions.


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Re: wacky question

[Ralf Mardorf]

N O T E :   I only cc'ed my reply to Debian user, I switched the thread
to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org . Is this ok?

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 16:52 -0400, Greg wrote:
> That might work for an actual terrorist, but I am a citizen and I do
> not think it is acceptable to have to act like a terrorist to keep my
> humble, everyday "secrets" private.

Full acknowledgement, btw. even such a "terrorist" computer setup in
practise isn't 100% safe, but just 80% or less, I anyway call it 100%.
We can't do anything against it. You can not really protect your data,
you only can protect your setup at home.

I didn't like Obama from the beginning, all bad I prophesied became
true. Not hard to do such a prophecy ;).

And btw. indignation of German politicians about Guantanamo or offending
data protection is histrionics.

We anyway can be happy, when we're living in a free western
civilisation. I don't say we're living in perfect nations. I've got a
criminal record, because I didn't join the German armed forces! However,
im my country you got a jail sentence for not joining the armed forces
(in a land that started 2 world wars, so I had a good reason not to join
it!), _but_ in other countries they kill people, if they don't join
their armies, they even force children to be soldiers. Around 25 years
later, since some years ago, Germans are free not to join the German
armed forces anymore. AFAIK in the USA they don't separate black and
white humans anymore ;), IOW progress is slowly measured on the lifespan
of men, but 20 or 50 years aren't that much. We don't have the wide
spread access to the Internet for a long enough time, we need some time
to civilize data protection. Let's do it without being paranoid or even
surprised _and_ without party activism :(, changing the world is work
and can't be done by parties or long line of demonstrators carrying
lights, that's just bullshit. If we know what companies are bad, we
should start not to buy from those companies, not to use their free
services, _if_ possible. If e.g. labor conditions are bad at Amazone,
the solution is easy. Don't order from Amazone and drop Ubuntu that
ships with menu links to Amazone etc., you even don't need to risk a
criminal record. But the party activist make anti-Amazone parties and
order the party supplies from Amazone. Have you ever joined a mailing
list of the Pirate party? I did, party people, they discredit their own
people who do real social/political work. "At our last Pirate party I
talked to Mr. X, but he still works the things off he has to do, instead
of taking care about what I said to him on our last party."

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: wacky question

[lina]

On Saturday 22,June,2013 05:10 AM, Greg wrote:
>>>  China and similar countries
>>> > > are a problem, because they are dangerous for journalists etc..
>> > 
>> > Old fashioned spy is out-of-date, and the journalists are doing the real
>> > spy things.
>> > 
>> > 
> Enjoy life on planet party-line, I hope you are on the right side of
> every purge!


I just don't get from where "China and similar countries are a problem,
because they are dangerous for journalists etc." this comes from.

I think China and most countries are fair to decent journalists. Not
dangerous.

If I remember correctly, even one month ago, the newspaper, include BBC
and also presidents meetings, they all claimed that "China cyber
attacks". It was so serious seems. But the another side is that (from
today's BBC news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23012317 )

"... has also alleged that US intelligence had been hacking into Chinese
computer networks.

He said he had decided to speak out after observing "a continuing litany
of lies" from senior officials to Congress.
"

I don't like some journalists, some works for BBC and NYT. How can they
be so "right side" of the article they wrote.

They could say, "a blind massager" as "a self-taught lawer". And how
many times the "activist" being mis-used. Especially how true those
"human right activist"?

What is dangerous is that people take "hooligan" as "holy fighter", and
"gentleman" as "dictator". And what's more pathetic is that people are
easily following some other people's opinion.

To go deeper, before I felt it is the journalist immoral, but later I
realize that there is a deep reason behind that is that journalist
perhaps just to ingratiate readers. Then what's a mindset of the
"people", to seek for the information the news prepared for them.






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Re: Mdadm drive fail power cord issue.

[Bob Proulx]

Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> Sorry for the late response.

No problem.  I am often distracted myself with various things away
from the mailing lists and can't respond as often as I would like.

> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> root@nasbox:~#  mdadm --detail /dev/md1
> Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>0   8   330  active sync   /dev/sdc1
>1   001  removed
> root@nasbox:~#   mdadm --detail /dev/md2
> Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>0   8   180  active sync   /dev/sdb2
>1   001  removed
> root@nasbox:~#   mdadm --detail /dev/md3
> Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>0   8   190  active sync   /dev/sdb3
>1   001  removed
> root@nasbox:~#   mdadm --detail /dev/md4
> Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>0   8   200  active sync   /dev/sdb4
>1   001  removed

See in the above that md1 is active on /dev/sdc1 while the other
devices are all active in /dev/sdb{2,3,4}.  This means you need to be
careful which disk you do things to since you could wipe out the other
disk if not careful.  Three are one way and one is the other way.

> > You will need to know that information in order to proceed successfully.
> > I would like to see the output of:
> >
> >   mdadm --examine /dev/sdc2
>
> root@nasbox:~#  mdadm --examine /dev/sdc2
> mdadm: No md superblock detected on /dev/sdc2.

That was an example from my system.  For your system you would use these:

  mdadm --examine /dev/sdc1
  mdadm --examine /dev/sdb2
  mdadm --examine /dev/sdb3
  mdadm --examine /dev/sdb4

Noting that the first is on sdc and the other three on sdb.

> root@nasbox:~# sfdisk -d /dev/sdb
> 
> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util sfdisk
> doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.

Hmm...  I am not a GPT expert.  I haven't been using that partition
table type.  Yet.  It is inevitably in the future.  But that means my
question was poorly written.  Sorry.

> root@nasbox:~# sfdisk -d /dev/sdc
> read: Input/output error

That looks scary to me.  You have an active partition on /dev/sdc1 but
here /dev/sdc reported an I/O error?  That seems very bad.  At this
point I would stop and look carefully at the drive.  I would look at
the SMART selftests from the drive.  Here are some useful commands.

  smartctl -i /dev/sdc
  smartctl -l error /dev/sdc
  smartctl -t short /dev/sdc
  smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc

But if you are getting I/O errors from /dev/sdc then that probably
explains why you were getting an invalid argument error from mdadm
talking to that disk.

> sfdisk: read error on /dev/sdc - cannot read sector 0
>  /dev/sdc: unrecognized partition table type
> No partitions found

I don't know what to think.  How can the array be active on /dev/sdc1
when /dev/sdc is giving I/O errors?  Anyone else have any ideas?  I
think the disk may be failing.  Hopefully the SMART selftests will
confirm it.

I am going to ignore the I/O errors for a moment and continue as if
that didn't happen.  But it did.  So beware.

Normally I would say that you need to clone your partition from one
disk to the other.  I would normally use 'sfdisk -d /dev/sdb | sfdisk
/dev/sdc' to do it.  But you are using GPT tables so that won't work.
Plus you have an active array on /dev/sdc2 that you don't want to
disrupt.  So instead I can only say that you need to make sure that
sdc2, sdc3, sdc4 is partitioned like sdb2, sdb3, sdb4 and that sdb1 is
partitioned like sdc1.  Then add them correct member back into the
array.  But I don't know how to clone GPT tables.  Perhaps someone
else will have help for that part.  And I don't understand the I/O
error and think that needs to be understood first.

Good luck!
Bob


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Re: PHP code won't run (SOLVED)

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 6/21/2013 8:39 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

On 06/21/2013 05:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 8:25 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

I found the problem. When using Blowfish I just click on the browser
button to view the page. Blowfish is using the URL file:///var/www/
to access the files. The index.html file doesn't work right when
accessed this way. If I hand enter localhost/index.html everything works
fine. I don't know how to fix Blowfish yet but can work around the
problem. Anyone know how to get Blowfish to use the localhost instead of
file:/ .

Gary R.




Yes, you're telling Blowfish to browse the file - it's doing exactly
what you tell it to do.  You can't use the browse button to access
files through Apache (there is no file directory available by default).



Too bad. The buttons handy. By the way, I don't know were I got
"Blowfish - an encription routine - instead of Bluefish editor.

Thank you all.

Gary R.




Ah, OK.  I just thought it was another browser I had never heard of :)

Yes, I do know Blowfish the encryption routine.


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Re: PHP code won't run (SOLVED)

[Gary Roach]

On 06/21/2013 05:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 8:25 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

I found the problem. When using Blowfish I just click on the browser
button to view the page. Blowfish is using the URL file:///var/www/
to access the files. The index.html file doesn't work right when
accessed this way. If I hand enter localhost/index.html everything works
fine. I don't know how to fix Blowfish yet but can work around the
problem. Anyone know how to get Blowfish to use the localhost instead of
file:/ .

Gary R.




Yes, you're telling Blowfish to browse the file - it's doing exactly 
what you tell it to do.  You can't use the browse button to access 
files through Apache (there is no file directory available by default).



Too bad. The buttons handy. By the way, I don't know were I got 
"Blowfish - an encription routine - instead of Bluefish editor.


Thank you all.

Gary R.


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Re: PHP code won't run (SOLVED)

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 6/21/2013 8:25 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

I found the problem. When using Blowfish I just click on the browser
button to view the page. Blowfish is using the URL file:///var/www/
to access the files. The index.html file doesn't work right when
accessed this way. If I hand enter localhost/index.html everything works
fine. I don't know how to fix Blowfish yet but can work around the
problem. Anyone know how to get Blowfish to use the localhost instead of
file:/ .

Gary R.




Yes, you're telling Blowfish to browse the file - it's doing exactly 
what you tell it to do.  You can't use the browse button to access files 
through Apache (there is no file directory available by default).



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Re: Debian Wheezy & SSD+HDD configuration

[Bob Proulx]

Aharon Fajardo wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Fran wrote:
> > > - Do I really need to set up a complex configuration for partitioning
> > > like seen here
> > > (http://wiki.debian.org/Multi%20HDD/SSD%20Partition%20Scheme)?
> > > Should I be worried for unexpected errors if not?
> > 
> > Well you didn't mention the SSD model, but generally no and no.
> > Do make good backups, but this is nothing SSD specific.

Good advice.

> > > - What are (if any) the *must take into account* aspects when working
> > > with an SSD on Debian? Are there any "new routines" I should be aware of
> > > right now?
> > 
> > Not really. Just make sure you used recent enough partitioning tools 
> > (but as the wiki says, squeeze is ok already) and maybe set 'noatime' 
> > (but since 'relatime' is default now the benefit is rather limited).

I am doing nothing special on my SSD based systems.  Because by now
Squeeze 6 and Wheezy 7 already have all of the special updates needed
as standard.

> > The default scheduler tweak also looks interesting, but again, you 
> > probably won't feel the difference.
> > 
> > Did I mention you should have good backups? :p
> > 
> > Just sit back and enjoy the speed ;)

Agreed.

> Do you have any evidence to back up your statements?

If you don't believe it then the counter example is yours to refute. :-)

> I had just bought a system76 laptop that is preinstalled with Ubuntu
> 13.04, and has a nice SSD and HDD setup. The problem is that the
> laptop's hdd comes unpartioned and unformatted, while the entire
> filesytem lives on the SSD.

That doesn't sound like a problem as such.  You have the flexibility
to do anything you want with the hard disk.  What do you want to do
with it?

I don't prefer pre-installed systems of any sort because if I ever
need to replace the drive or have a disaster I may want to re-install.
I would rather know how the system was created.  If I install it then
I know I can re-created it.  If it is pre-installed and there are
special needs to it then I may never be able to admin it.  Of course
if they give you all of the special configuration information then
that is good.  And it is likely that they are selecting hardware which
does not need any special configuration.  That latter is always best.

> It is a very high-end laptop, and God forbid that anything happens
> to the SSD.

No.  If the SSD dies then simply replace it and restore from backup.
Because backup is always a good idea regardless of the media.  Backups
save people from people mistakes. :-)

> Every article I look up in my research says that you must be going
> on a safari in your fstab and partitioning your SSD and HDD for
> certain file directories.

Most of those articles are quite old now.  After a couple of years all
of that special handle migrated into the partition tools.  If you
install using the debian-install from a netinst, CD#1, DVD#1 disk then
the partitions will be set up correctly aligned.

> In short, I hope what you're saying is right, but I need to see a
> second opinion or a personal account that supports what you're
> saying before I make any changes to my storage devices.
 
Then let me give a second to Andrei's report.  You should be fine.
What Andrei said sounded completely reasonable to me.

But it doesn't sound like you are needing to partition the SSD at
all.  You said it was the hard disk that wasn't partitioned.
Therefore it would be the HDD that you would need to partition and
use.  And you said you did that already.

Most new spinning hard disks are also coming with Advanced Format
partitioning with 4k sectors.  Basically it means that spinning hard
disks have about the same issues with partition alignments as SSDs
do.  So you should check that the partitions are aligned with hard
disks too these days.

> My SSD specs are:
> 120 GB Intel 525 Series mSATA SSD
> And my HDD specs are:
> 500 GB 7200 RPM SATA II

Sure.  Rather than very vague essays it would be better if you have a
specific question to just ask it.  For example you could post your
partition table and ask if it were aligned.

  sfdisk -d /dev/sda

Bob


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Re: PHP code won't run (SOLVED)

[Gary Roach]

I found the problem. When using Blowfish I just click on the browser 
button to view the page. Blowfish is using the URL file:///var/www/ 
to access the files. The index.html file doesn't work right when 
accessed this way. If I hand enter localhost/index.html everything works 
fine. I don't know how to fix Blowfish yet but can work around the 
problem. Anyone know how to get Blowfish to use the localhost instead of 
file:/ .


Gary R.


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Re: PHP code won't run

[Gary Roach]

On 06/21/2013 03:51 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 6:41 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

On 06/21/2013 02:58 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 5:37 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

On 06/21/2013 01:21 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 3:54 PM, Gary Roach wrote:
Not being able to find another mailing list that seems worthwhile 
I'm

hoping I can get a quick answer here. The following doesn't work.

System info:
wheezy
Apache2
php5
mySQL 5.?

My test web page:





PHP Information Page



 echo "Test Message in body"




When run, the "Test Message in body" displays. The " Test Message in
PHP" does not.
Running ps xaf shows two instances of the apache server running.
Pasted
from the terminal:

30541 ?Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30561 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30562 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start

I've checked the installation of php5 and all seems well. You will
probably need additional information. Please ask.

Any help will be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R




Gary,

Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled?



The web page has an .html extension. Is a .php extension necessary if
there is PHP code mixed within html?

My mods-enable"
root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled# ls
alias.confauthz_groupfile.load   cgi.load
env.load   php5.confsetenvif.load
alias.loadauthz_host.load  deflate.conf
mime.conf   php5.load status.conf
auth_basic.load  authz_user.load  deflate.load
mime.loadreqtimeout.conf   status.load
authn_file.loadautoindex.conf   dir.conf
negotiation.conf   reqtimeout.load
authz_default.load  autoindex.load   dir.load negotiation.load
setenvif.conf

Thanks for the help

Gary R.




By default, the server will only call the PHP interpreter for files
with a .php extension.  That can be changed in your httpd.conf file,
but that is not recommended (it will cause all pages, not just those
with a .php extension to be parsed, creating unnecessary workload).



When I put a .php extension on any of my files Apache can't seem to find
them. When I was working out of Blowfish earlier, and tried to display a
.php file on the browser, my system kept asking what to do with the
file. I finally told it to always use Apache2. So now the error doesn't
occur any more but the files still don't run. There must be something
fundamentally wrong with my setup. I wish I knew what it was. Below is
my index.html. Neither one of the links work. Below is my index.html
which calls phpinfo.php (listed above). The index file displays but does
nothing. The enterdb file works as far as the html part is concerned if
it has an html ending, but it's php calls don't do a thing.





Index File



Server Index
This is the default web page for this server.
 Link to
UUCLB Database 
Link to phpinfo()




Gary R.



How are you loading the file?  You MUST load it from a web server 
(i.e. http://localhost/index.php).


OK! There seems to be something going on with how I am accessing the 
code files. If I go directly to the file with a "localhost/x.php" 
browser address both the phpinfo.php and enterdb.php work, including all 
of the attached php code. For some reason (yet to be determined) 
accessing through the links on the index.html page don't work. There is 
no php code in the index page. The index page code is:


   html>
   
   
   Index File
   
   
   
   Server Index
   This is the default web page for this server.
Link to UUCLB Database 
   Link to phpinfo()
   
   

The phpinfo.php file is in the same directory as the index.html file. 
The enterdb.php file is in the UUCLB_Project sub-directory. I don't see 
anything wrong. Or do all of the code files need to have .php extensions?


Gary R.

Re: wacky question

[André Nunes Batista]

Same here!

If you are trying to pursue security without thinking about "trust
issues", either you are God or you believe there is one somewhere.
Someone who has all knowledge possible.

Well, they have designed just their first try on layman's eye.

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Dňa 21.06.2013 23:23 Greg  wrote / napísal(a):
> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 20:40 +0200, Slavko wrote:
>> Dňa 20.06.2013 17:12 Greg  wrote / napísal(a):
>>
>>> I'm just wondering what debian does to check and protect its users, so
>>> fuck me, right?
>>
>> Your protection is your responsibility. The Debian (and other OS) can
>> only help you with this. Of course, some can do it better and another
>> no. An some can criminalize you, when you want to see what is inside (by
>> license violation), but these last are then taking responsibility, but
>> do you really want to loose your own responsibility?
>>
>> IMO, if you want to transmit your responsibility, you must select
>> another model of OS, than Debian is.
> 
> So I have no right to ask to to even think about how software is built
> or made available by debian? To protect myself I have but to debug every
> line of code I use and build it all myself, on CPU's I forged in my
> backyard smithy? Perhaps I could launch my own satellites to ensure safe
> global access to a self-made internet.
> ...

Are you read the GPL (and many other free licenses)? NO WARRANTY is
provided! Simple, you can use it, but at own responsibility.

Provided security level is only about goodwill. But what security level
provides Facebook (and similar)? And more and more people are using it,
despite the warnings. Is its low security taking its popularity? Is
Facebook's goodwill depended on its own security? IMHO no, its (and
others) popularity is based on the users naivety. And naive people are
good for today governments - they do not see, the do not hear, they do
not understand.

I was for years marked as paranoid, now my paranoia has name :-) But, i
need to trust to someone (as you are pointing). Simple, i trust to the
Debian's community, that if there will be security/privacy hole, it will
be investigated and reported - and quickly than with SSL :-)))

regards

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Re: Ethernet Card not detected

[Yongbo Zuo]

Hi

Thanks for the instructions,
I have checked the Ethernet interface on-board:

$lspci | grep -i ethernet
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-V
(rev 04)

And, I only get a folder called "hp" after
ls -l /lib/firmware

So, in this case, what package should I download then, please?

Thanks,



Kind Regards,
Yongbo

Mr. Yongbo Zuo
Design Engineer 2
Advanced Micro Devices, MHDC, Fort Collins, CO
Master of Science
Computer Engineering in Virginia Tech
Phone: 5408087209
Mailing Address: 2950 E Harmony Rd, Suite 300, Fort Collins, CO 80528

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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Klaus  wrote:

> Dear Yongbo
>
> lspci does not just show plugged in cards, but everything on the pci bus.
> The on-board ethernet connector talks to the main cpu via the pci bus, too.
> So, please, boot into the new Debian install, and run the lspci command as
> stated before.
> Without knowing which ethernet connector you have it's difficult to know
> what's missing. Have a look at the Intel site if you prefer to check the
> lan spec from within Win7.  network/sb/cs-008441.htm
> >
>
> Klaus
>
>
>
> On 21/06/13 16:52, Yongbo Zuo wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Thanks for your advise, I am a little lost here,
>> My motherboard has Intel^(R) GbE LAN chip (10/100/1000 Mbit) for internet
>>
>> connection, I don't have an independent ethernet card that uses pci slot,
>> This is the specification of my motherboard:
>> http://www.gigabyte.com/**products/product-page.aspx?**pid=4488#sp
>>
>>
>> I checked the firmware, I don't know which one is needed for Intel^(R) GbE
>>
>> LAN chip (10/100/1000 Mbit),
>> should I get an independent ethernet card?
>> or should I download any driver from intel?
>>
>> Sorry to bother so much, I am pretty new to linux.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Yongbo
>>
>> Mr. Yongbo Zuo
>> Design Engineer 2
>> Advanced Micro Devices, MHDC, Fort Collins, CO
>> Master of Science
>> Computer Engineering in Virginia Tech
>> Phone: 5408087209
>> Mailing Address: 2950 E Harmony Rd, Suite 300, Fort Collins, CO 80528
>>
>> --心有多坚
>>  ~ 路有多远！
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Klaus > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Please have a look at the Debian wiki:
>> <
>> http://wiki.debian.org/**Firmware >>
>>
>> There are firmware packages in the Debian distribution, and Intel
>> for example also provides a tarball of drivers. Do you know which
>> Ethernet interface you have on-board your motherboard? In my case it
>> looks like this:
>>
>> $ lspci | grep -i ethernet
>> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21/06/13 06:15, Yongbo Zuo wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Sorry to ask the question again, there was a problem for my
>> subscript to
>> the maillist.
>>
>> I have built up my own pc, which has the GigaByte mother boarder
>> Z87X-UD4H, and Intel i4770k CPU, and AMD HD7970 GPU.
>>
>> When I intall Debian 7.0, wheezy, it cannot detect the ethernet
>> card
>> when detecting the hardwares after I select the "Graphical
>> Install".
>>
>> So, in this case, even I finish the installation, I cannot
>> connect to
>> the internet because of the lack of ethernet card.
>>
>> And, I have win7 installed on another hard driver, and the
>> network is
>> working well in win7.
>>
>> By the way, I think, Z87X-UD4H has integrated ethernet card.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Yongbo
>>
>> Mr. Yongbo Zuo
>> Design Engineer 2
>> Advanced Micro Devices, MHDC, Fort Collins, CO
>> Master of Science
>> Computer Engineering in Virginia Tech
>> Phone: 5408087209 
>>
>> Mailing Address: 2950 E Harmony Rd, Suite 300, Fort Collins, CO
>> 80528
>>
>> --心有多坚
>>   ~ 路有多远！
>>
>>
>>
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Re: PHP code won't run

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 6/21/2013 6:41 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

On 06/21/2013 02:58 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 5:37 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

On 06/21/2013 01:21 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 3:54 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

Not being able to find another mailing list that seems worthwhile I'm
hoping I can get a quick answer here. The following doesn't work.

System info:
wheezy
Apache2
php5
mySQL 5.?

My test web page:





PHP Information Page



 echo "Test Message in body"




When run, the "Test Message in body" displays. The " Test Message in
PHP" does not.
Running ps xaf shows two instances of the apache server running.
Pasted
from the terminal:

30541 ?Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30561 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30562 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start

I've checked the installation of php5 and all seems well. You will
probably need additional information. Please ask.

Any help will be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R




Gary,

Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled?



The web page has an .html extension. Is a .php extension necessary if
there is PHP code mixed within html?

My mods-enable"
root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled# ls
alias.confauthz_groupfile.load   cgi.load
env.load   php5.confsetenvif.load
alias.loadauthz_host.load  deflate.conf
mime.conf   php5.load status.conf
auth_basic.load  authz_user.load  deflate.load
mime.loadreqtimeout.conf   status.load
authn_file.loadautoindex.conf   dir.conf
negotiation.conf   reqtimeout.load
authz_default.load  autoindex.load   dir.load negotiation.load
setenvif.conf

Thanks for the help

Gary R.




By default, the server will only call the PHP interpreter for files
with a .php extension.  That can be changed in your httpd.conf file,
but that is not recommended (it will cause all pages, not just those
with a .php extension to be parsed, creating unnecessary workload).



When I put a .php extension on any of my files Apache can't seem to find
them. When I was working out of Blowfish earlier, and tried to display a
.php file on the browser, my system kept asking what to do with the
file. I finally told it to always use Apache2. So now the error doesn't
occur any more but the files still don't run. There must be something
fundamentally wrong with my setup. I wish I knew what it was. Below is
my index.html. Neither one of the links work. Below is my index.html
which calls phpinfo.php (listed above). The index file displays but does
nothing. The enterdb file works as far as the html part is concerned if
it has an html ending, but it's php calls don't do a thing.



 
 
 Index File
 
 

 Server Index
 This is the default web page for this server.
  Link to
UUCLB Database 
 Link to phpinfo()




Gary R.



How are you loading the file?  You MUST load it from a web server (i.e. 
http://localhost/index.php).



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Re: PHP code won't run

[Gary Roach]

On 06/21/2013 02:58 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 5:37 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

On 06/21/2013 01:21 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 3:54 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

Not being able to find another mailing list that seems worthwhile I'm
hoping I can get a quick answer here. The following doesn't work.

System info:
wheezy
Apache2
php5
mySQL 5.?

My test web page:





PHP Information Page



 echo "Test Message in body"




When run, the "Test Message in body" displays. The " Test Message in
PHP" does not.
Running ps xaf shows two instances of the apache server running. 
Pasted

from the terminal:

30541 ?Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30561 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30562 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start

I've checked the installation of php5 and all seems well. You will
probably need additional information. Please ask.

Any help will be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R




Gary,

Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled?



The web page has an .html extension. Is a .php extension necessary if
there is PHP code mixed within html?

My mods-enable"
root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled# ls
alias.confauthz_groupfile.load   cgi.load
env.load   php5.confsetenvif.load
alias.loadauthz_host.load  deflate.conf
mime.conf   php5.load status.conf
auth_basic.load  authz_user.load  deflate.load
mime.loadreqtimeout.conf   status.load
authn_file.loadautoindex.conf   dir.conf
negotiation.conf   reqtimeout.load
authz_default.load  autoindex.load   dir.load negotiation.load
setenvif.conf

Thanks for the help

Gary R.




By default, the server will only call the PHP interpreter for files 
with a .php extension.  That can be changed in your httpd.conf file, 
but that is not recommended (it will cause all pages, not just those 
with a .php extension to be parsed, creating unnecessary workload).



When I put a .php extension on any of my files Apache can't seem to find 
them. When I was working out of Blowfish earlier, and tried to display a 
.php file on the browser, my system kept asking what to do with the 
file. I finally told it to always use Apache2. So now the error doesn't 
occur any more but the files still don't run. There must be something 
fundamentally wrong with my setup. I wish I knew what it was. Below is 
my index.html. Neither one of the links work. Below is my index.html 
which calls phpinfo.php (listed above). The index file displays but does 
nothing. The enterdb file works as far as the html part is concerned if 
it has an html ending, but it's php calls don't do a thing.


   
   
   
   
   Index File
   
   
   
   Server Index
   This is the default web page for this server.
Link to
   UUCLB Database 
   Link to phpinfo()
   
   


Gary R.

Re: wacky question

[Slavko]

Dňa 21.06.2013 23:23 Greg  wrote / napísal(a):
> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 20:40 +0200, Slavko wrote:
>> Dňa 20.06.2013 17:12 Greg  wrote / napísal(a):
>>
>>> I'm just wondering what debian does to check and protect its users, so
>>> fuck me, right?
>>
>> Your protection is your responsibility. The Debian (and other OS) can
>> only help you with this. Of course, some can do it better and another
>> no. An some can criminalize you, when you want to see what is inside (by
>> license violation), but these last are then taking responsibility, but
>> do you really want to loose your own responsibility?
>>
>> IMO, if you want to transmit your responsibility, you must select
>> another model of OS, than Debian is.
> 
> So I have no right to ask to to even think about how software is built
> or made available by debian? To protect myself I have but to debug every
> line of code I use and build it all myself, on CPU's I forged in my
> backyard smithy? Perhaps I could launch my own satellites to ensure safe
> global access to a self-made internet.
> ...

Are you read the GPL (and many other free licenses)? NO WARRANTY is
provided! Simple, you can use it, but at own responsibility.

Provided security level is only about goodwill. But what security level
provides Facebook (and similar)? And more and more people are using it,
despite the warnings. Is its low security taking its popularity? Is
Facebook's goodwill depended on its own security? IMHO no, its (and
others) popularity is based on the users naivety. And naive people are
good for today governments - they do not see, the do not hear, they do
not understand.

I was for years marked as paranoid, now my paranoia has name :-) But, i
need to trust to someone (as you are pointing). Simple, i trust to the
Debian's community, that if there will be security/privacy hole, it will
be investigated and reported - and quickly than with SSL :-)))

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Re: PHP code won't run

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 6/21/2013 6:01 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

On 06/21/2013 02:43 PM, David Guntner wrote:

Gary Roach grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

On 06/21/2013 01:21 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled?


The web page has an .html extension. Is a .php extension necessary if
there is PHP code mixed within html?

Yup.  Otherwise, Apache doesn't know it needs to feed the code to the
PHP engine.

   --Dave




I changed the file to .php. It now prints nothing.
index.html => file:///var/www/phpinfo.php => php code
Another link, index.html => file///var/www/myProject/enterdb.html  works
fine as far as the html code is concerned but the call to a php file
doesn't.

Confused!

Gary Rl




That typically means you have a syntax error in your PHP code.  Look at 
your apache log file.


Is the code you posted earlier the exact code in your file?


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Re: preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Tom H]

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Iain M Conochie  wrote:
> On Friday 21 Jun 2013 11:45:04 Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:58:36, Iain M Conochie  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am trying to create a preseed file using LVM but with no boot
>>> partition.
>>>
>>> When partman runs, it creates recognises the partitons but stops to
>>> ask if I wish to continue as I have no /boot partition.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know an option to give in the preseed file to partman to
>>> skip this question?
>>
>> d-i partman-auto-lvm/no_boot boolean true
>
> Nice one Tom. Works like a charm!

You're welcome.


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Re: Re: Re: preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Tom H]

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:47:21 +0100, Brian  wrote:
> On Fri 21 Jun 2013 at 07:12:46 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:06:22 +0100, Brian  wrote:
>>>
>>> The templates file in the partman-auto-lvm udeb should tell you.
>>
>> You can look at the files in "/var/log/installer/cdebconf/" before
>> rummaging through udebs. :)
>
> udebs are primary, up-to-date sources of information. Rummaging through
> them is good for the soul. :)

For your sysadmin skills, perhaps.

For your soul, I'd recommend something more "spiritual"!


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Re: PHP code won't run

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 6/21/2013 5:37 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

On 06/21/2013 01:21 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 3:54 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

Not being able to find another mailing list that seems worthwhile I'm
hoping I can get a quick answer here. The following doesn't work.

System info:
wheezy
Apache2
php5
mySQL 5.?

My test web page:





PHP Information Page



 echo "Test Message in body"




When run, the "Test Message in body" displays. The " Test Message in
PHP" does not.
Running ps xaf shows two instances of the apache server running. Pasted
from the terminal:

30541 ?Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30561 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30562 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start

I've checked the installation of php5 and all seems well. You will
probably need additional information. Please ask.

Any help will be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R




Gary,

Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled?



The web page has an .html extension. Is a .php extension necessary if
there is PHP code mixed within html?

My mods-enable"
root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled# ls
alias.confauthz_groupfile.load   cgi.load
env.load   php5.confsetenvif.load
alias.loadauthz_host.load  deflate.conf
mime.conf   php5.load status.conf
auth_basic.load  authz_user.load  deflate.load
mime.loadreqtimeout.conf   status.load
authn_file.loadautoindex.conf   dir.conf
negotiation.conf   reqtimeout.load
authz_default.load  autoindex.load   dir.load negotiation.load
setenvif.conf

Thanks for the help

Gary R.




By default, the server will only call the PHP interpreter for files with 
a .php extension.  That can be changed in your httpd.conf file, but that 
is not recommended (it will cause all pages, not just those with a .php 
extension to be parsed, creating unnecessary workload).



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Re: PHP code won't run

[Gary Roach]

On 06/21/2013 02:43 PM, David Guntner wrote:

Gary Roach grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

On 06/21/2013 01:21 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled?


The web page has an .html extension. Is a .php extension necessary if
there is PHP code mixed within html?

Yup.  Otherwise, Apache doesn't know it needs to feed the code to the
PHP engine.

   --Dave




I changed the file to .php. It now prints nothing.
index.html => file:///var/www/phpinfo.php => php code
Another link, index.html => file///var/www/myProject/enterdb.html  works 
fine as far as the html code is concerned but the call to a php file 
doesn't.


Confused!

Gary Rl


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Re: wacky question

[André Nunes Batista]

If you care to open any decent book on computer security, you will note
that the first paragraph or so will state clearly that 100% security is
impossible, dreamish.

Cryptography + free software + steganography are to be used all
together, to greatly increase the boundaries. But if you think you will
find a 100% safe answer, you better join NSA.


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I challenge you to play the game in which there is no loser but
everything is fun and worthwhile!



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On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 20:40 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> Dňa 20.06.2013 17:12 Greg  wrote / napísal(a):
> 
> > I'm just wondering what debian does to check and protect its users, so
> > fuck me, right?
> 
> Your protection is your responsibility. The Debian (and other OS) can
> only help you with this. Of course, some can do it better and another
> no. An some can criminalize you, when you want to see what is inside (by
> license violation), but these last are then taking responsibility, but
> do you really want to loose your own responsibility?
> 
> IMO, if you want to transmit your responsibility, you must select
> another model of OS, than Debian is.
> 
> regards
> 

So I have no right to ask to to even think about how software is built
or made available by debian? To protect myself I have but to debug every
line of code I use and build it all myself, on CPU's I forged in my
backyard smithy? Perhaps I could launch my own satellites to ensure safe
global access to a self-made internet. Iran has gone down that path,
perhaps we should all do likewise, or just go live in a cave or use
openbsd machines with the network cards pulled out? What if they get to
Theo? Then I'm done for!


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Re: PHP code won't run

[David Guntner]

Gary Roach grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On 06/21/2013 01:21 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in
>> /etc/apache2/mods-enabled?
>>
> The web page has an .html extension. Is a .php extension necessary if
> there is PHP code mixed within html?

Yup.  Otherwise, Apache doesn't know it needs to feed the code to the
PHP engine.

  --Dave





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Re: PHP code won't run

[Gary Roach]

On 06/21/2013 01:21 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 6/21/2013 3:54 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

Not being able to find another mailing list that seems worthwhile I'm
hoping I can get a quick answer here. The following doesn't work.

System info:
wheezy
Apache2
php5
mySQL 5.?

My test web page:





PHP Information Page



 echo "Test Message in body"




When run, the "Test Message in body" displays. The " Test Message in
PHP" does not.
Running ps xaf shows two instances of the apache server running. Pasted
from the terminal:

30541 ?Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30561 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30562 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start

I've checked the installation of php5 and all seems well. You will
probably need additional information. Please ask.

Any help will be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R




Gary,

Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in 
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled?



The web page has an .html extension. Is a .php extension necessary if 
there is PHP code mixed within html?


My mods-enable"
root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled# ls
alias.confauthz_groupfile.load   cgi.load 
env.load   php5.confsetenvif.load
alias.loadauthz_host.load  deflate.conf   
mime.conf   php5.load status.conf
auth_basic.load  authz_user.load  deflate.load
mime.loadreqtimeout.conf   status.load
authn_file.loadautoindex.conf   dir.conf  
negotiation.conf   reqtimeout.load
authz_default.load  autoindex.load   dir.load   
negotiation.load   setenvif.conf


Thanks for the help

Gary R.


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Re: wacky question

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 21 June 2013 22:07:01 Greg wrote:
> > I agree with you, but they are still not dangerous for me, since I'm a
> > German. If my own country will get even harmless data, it's different
> > for me. I guess most us aren't from the USA, since this is an
> > international mailing list. This thread, perhaps should be moved to the
> > off-topic list?

You have missed the point, Ralf.  The USA government is collecting all its 
data, but it is only using the information for non-Americans.  I.e. for you 
and me.  Tor is beginning to sound more attractive by the email at the 
moment!

Lisi


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Re: preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Iain M Conochie]

On Friday 21 Jun 2013 11:45:04 Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:58:36, Iain M Conochie  wrote:
>  > I am trying to create a preseed file using LVM but with no boot
> 
> partition.
> 
>  > When partman runs, it creates recognises the partitons but stops to
> 
> ask if I
> 
>  > wish to continue as I have no /boot partition. I answere yes (twice!)
> 
> and the
> 
>  > installation continues. I can boot the installed system
>  > 
>  > Does anyone know an option to give in the preseed file to partman to
> 
> skip
> 
>  > this question?
> 
> d-i partman-auto-lvm/no_boot boolean true

Nice one Tom. Works like a charm!

Cheers

Iain


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Re: wacky question

[Greg]

On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 20:40 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> Dňa 20.06.2013 17:12 Greg  wrote / napísal(a):
> 
> > I'm just wondering what debian does to check and protect its users, so
> > fuck me, right?
> 
> Your protection is your responsibility. The Debian (and other OS) can
> only help you with this. Of course, some can do it better and another
> no. An some can criminalize you, when you want to see what is inside (by
> license violation), but these last are then taking responsibility, but
> do you really want to loose your own responsibility?
> 
> IMO, if you want to transmit your responsibility, you must select
> another model of OS, than Debian is.
> 
> regards
> 

So I have no right to ask to to even think about how software is built
or made available by debian? To protect myself I have but to debug every
line of code I use and build it all myself, on CPU's I forged in my
backyard smithy? Perhaps I could launch my own satellites to ensure safe
global access to a self-made internet. Iran has gone down that path,
perhaps we should all do likewise, or just go live in a cave or use
openbsd machines with the network cards pulled out? What if they get to
Theo? Then I'm done for!


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Re: Authentication required keeps popping up

[Michael Biebl]

Am 17.06.2013 18:45, schrieb Chris Capon:
> Hi all.
> 
> Since upgrading to Debian Stable (Wheezy), the Gnome desktop has a popup
> which occurs at least once a day asking for authentication. The exact
> message is:
> 
>  Authentication is required to update packages
> 
> It always pops up twice in a row whether I type in a password or just
> cancel the dialog.  I've uninstalled the gnome update manager but this
> still shows up.
> 
> Does anyone know what might be causing this or how to get rid of it?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 

See
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=708548
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Re: wacky question

[Greg]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 00:52 +0800, lina wrote:
> On Friday 21,June,2013 12:41 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > The USA and similar countries IMO aren't dangerous for most of us, since
> > I suspect that less of us are terrorists. China and similar countries
> > are a problem, because they are dangerous for journalists etc..
> 
> Old fashioned spy is out-of-date, and the journalists are doing the real
> spy things.
> 
> 

Enjoy life on planet party-line, I hope you are on the right side of
every purge!


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Re: wacky question

[Greg]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 16:36 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 16:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Jo, 20 iun 13, 18:41:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > 
> > > The USA and similar countries IMO aren't dangerous for most of us, since
> > > I suspect that less of us are terrorists. 
> > 
> > Sorry, but I don't accept this argument. Just because we personally may 
> > not be targeted is still no excuse to tolerate it when a government, any 
> > government, is not respecting a person's rights.
> 
> I agree with you, but they are still not dangerous for me, since I'm a
> German. If my own country will get even harmless data, it's different
> for me. I guess most us aren't from the USA, since this is an
> international mailing list. This thread, perhaps should be moved to the
> off-topic list?
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
> 
> 

Harmless data like what religious group you descend from? Something that
is considered innocuous today might be considered differently at a later
time by a less tolerant government.

I think most of this should be dropped or moved elsewhere, but I would
like the actual methods the debian project uses to protect itself from
systematic monitoring, data-collection or even hacking by governments or
other private organizations. I don't see that as being off topic for
this list.


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Re: wacky question

[Greg]

On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 10:44 -0500, John Hasler wrote:

> 
> > Or that a government that murders people...
> 
> I.e., the usual kind.

Yes we all hear about how Uganda has fleets of drones stationed in
countries throughout the world killing people. There is nothing special
about America.

> 
> > ...wouldn't consider an OS that millions of people use worth looking
> > at?
> 
> Court orders (or just men with guns from governments that don't bother
> with courts) are sufficient to get them what they want from commercial
> servers, which is all they care about.
> 
> Governments just don't give a damn about your desktop.  Sorry if that
> bruises your ego.  They may be interested in your email and Websurfing
> in the unlikely event that you are a "person of interest", but they can
> get that from your provider.
> 
> -- 
> John Hasler 
> jhas...@newsguy.com
> Elmwood, WI USA
> 
> 

If they don't care then how come they bother to go to the provider? By
using VPNs my provider rarely has any idea what I am doing. I do not
believe that I am some special person the government just has to know
all about, but I am concerned that it is convinced it has the right to
comb through and index everything everyone does on-line. 



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Re: wacky question

[Greg]

On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 18:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 10:44 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Governments just don't give a damn about your desktop.  Sorry if that
> > bruises your ego.  They may be interested in your email and Websurfing
> > in the unlikely event that you are a "person of interest", but they
> > can get that from your provider.
> 
> Correct, if they would spy my machine, they would risk, that I would
> notice it soon or later, but if they do it at another location, that is
> beyond my scope.
> 
> OTOH they might be interested to get the private openPGP keys, just to
> take a look, if we're "persons of interest", so a backdoor to our PCs
> would be from interest for them too.
> 
> The solution is very simple. My machine that is for everyday usage
> doesn't contain secrets. It's not a secure machine and I'm aware of this
> fact. If I ever have the need to share top secrets, I would set up
> another machine, with all kinds of protections and I only would connect
> it to the Internet, when it's absolutely needed. We e.g. could decrypt
> and read mails on a machine, that is never connected to the Internet and
> then e.g. use a self build (self soldered) USB stick to transmit it
> between our computers etc. pp..

That might work for an actual terrorist, but I am a citizen and I do not
think it is acceptable to have to act like a terrorist to keep my
humble, everyday "secrets" private. This government does not make any
effort to spy only on terrorists or foreigners, it digests everything it
can and every few months we find out they collect even more than we
thought.

Even worse, Mr Snowden and other have shown there is little regard for
that information once it is collected. Interested parties can and do tap
into that information for their own private, non-terrorist-catching
purposes.

Maybe everyone is predisposed to make a joke of the problems that are
largely beyond our control (ie government, corporations and the failure
of our "democracy" to have any power to restrain them). But with debian
I have powerful tools to protect myself and I would like to have some
sense that those tools are built with some significant safeguards rather
than everyone just assuming it is too hard to hack or such hacking could
easily be detected. I hope the developers have given these issues a lot
of thought. It is a sad day when security through obscurity is a main
argument on a debian mailling list.

Maybe I should have asked on a dev list, but that is something I don't
do because DMs and DDs have more important things to do than instruct
random people on details of their work. The reason I asked here is
because the searches I did on debian and debian related sites didn't
bring up much relevant info.




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Re: PHP code won't run

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 6/21/2013 3:54 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

Not being able to find another mailing list that seems worthwhile I'm
hoping I can get a quick answer here. The following doesn't work.

System info:
wheezy
Apache2
php5
mySQL 5.?

My test web page:




 
 PHP Information Page
 


 echo "Test Message in body"
 



When run, the "Test Message in body" displays. The " Test Message in
PHP" does not.
Running ps xaf shows two instances of the apache server running. Pasted
from the terminal:

30541 ?Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30561 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
30562 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start

I've checked the installation of php5 and all seems well. You will
probably need additional information. Please ask.

Any help will be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R




Gary,

Does your web page have a .php extension?  What do you have in 
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled?



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Re: Ethernet Card not detected

[Klaus]

Dear Yongbo

lspci does not just show plugged in cards, but everything on the pci 
bus. The on-board ethernet connector talks to the main cpu via the pci 
bus, too.
So, please, boot into the new Debian install, and run the lspci command 
as stated before.
Without knowing which ethernet connector you have it's difficult to know 
what's missing. Have a look at the Intel site if you prefer to check the 
lan spec from within Win7. 



Klaus


On 21/06/13 16:52, Yongbo Zuo wrote:

Hi

Thanks for your advise, I am a little lost here,
My motherboard has Intel^® GbE LAN chip (10/100/1000 Mbit) for internet
connection, I don't have an independent ethernet card that uses pci slot,
This is the specification of my motherboard:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4488#sp


I checked the firmware, I don't know which one is needed for Intel^® GbE
LAN chip (10/100/1000 Mbit),
should I get an independent ethernet card?
or should I download any driver from intel?

Sorry to bother so much, I am pretty new to linux.

Thanks,



Kind Regards,
Yongbo

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Computer Engineering in Virginia Tech
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Klaus mailto:klaus.doering...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Please have a look at the Debian wiki:
>
There are firmware packages in the Debian distribution, and Intel
for example also provides a tarball of drivers. Do you know which
Ethernet interface you have on-board your motherboard? In my case it
looks like this:

$ lspci | grep -i ethernet
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)




On 21/06/13 06:15, Yongbo Zuo wrote:

Hi All

Sorry to ask the question again, there was a problem for my
subscript to
the maillist.

I have built up my own pc, which has the GigaByte mother boarder
Z87X-UD4H, and Intel i4770k CPU, and AMD HD7970 GPU.

When I intall Debian 7.0, wheezy, it cannot detect the ethernet card
when detecting the hardwares after I select the "Graphical Install".

So, in this case, even I finish the installation, I cannot
connect to
the internet because of the lack of ethernet card.

And, I have win7 installed on another hard driver, and the
network is
working well in win7.

By the way, I think, Z87X-UD4H has integrated ethernet card.

Thanks,

Kind Regards,
Yongbo

Mr. Yongbo Zuo
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Advanced Micro Devices, MHDC, Fort Collins, CO
Master of Science
Computer Engineering in Virginia Tech
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Mailing Address: 2950 E Harmony Rd, Suite 300, Fort Collins, CO
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Re: erratic wireless connection (configuration mistake?)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 21 June 2013 19:20:35 Charles Blair wrote:
>  The /etc/networks file on the laptop:
>
> default 0.0.0.0
> loopback127.0.0.0
> link-local  169.254.0.0
> JF Basement     50.129.94.204
>
>    The /etc/networks file on the desktop:
>
> default 0.0.0.0
> loopback127.0.0.0
> link-local  169.254.0.0

Is there a reason why you have got: 
JF Basement 50.129.94.204
in the /etc/networks file on the laptop and not in that on the desktop?

Lisi


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PHP code won't run

[Gary Roach]

Not being able to find another mailing list that seems worthwhile I'm 
hoping I can get a quick answer here. The following doesn't work.


System info:
wheezy
Apache2
php5
mySQL 5.?

My test web page:

   
   
   
   
   PHP Information Page
   
   
   
echo "Test Message in body"
   
   
   

When run, the "Test Message in body" displays. The " Test Message in 
PHP" does not.
Running ps xaf shows two instances of the apache server running. Pasted 
from the terminal:


   30541 ?Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
   30561 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
   30562 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start

I've checked the installation of php5 and all seems well. You will 
probably need additional information. Please ask.


Any help will be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R

Re: Ethernet Card not detected

[Brian]

On Fri 21 Jun 2013 at 09:52:31 -0600, Yongbo Zuo wrote:

> Thanks for your advise, I am a little lost here,

Without knowing exactly what the ethernet chip is we are all lost. :)

> My motherboard has Intel(R) GbE LAN chip (10/100/1000 Mbit) for internet
> connection, I don't have an independent ethernet card that uses pci slot,

It's of no consequence. lspci gives information on onboard devices too.
However, similar information should be available in Win7. 

> This is the specification of my motherboard:
> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4488#sp
> 
> 
> I checked the firmware, I don't know which one is needed for Intel(R) GbE LAN
> chip (10/100/1000 Mbit),
> should I get an independent ethernet card?
> or should I download any driver from intel?

Assuming The specs are correct for the motherboard you possess, then
from

   http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware

it would seem you need phanfw.bin, which is in the firmware-netxen
package. First check if the file is on your system already. In a terminal
type

   ls -l /lib/firmware

If it is not there, your easiest course of action is to reinstall. But
first download firmware-netxen from

   http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-netxen

and copy it to a USB stick. Insert the stick after starting the graphical
install. The file on the stick should be automatically found and used
when the interface is chosen and the network is configured by dhcp.

Reading the Installation Manual is also recommended.


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Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 21:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 21 iun 13, 16:52:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs)
> > 
> > So the OP will keep some packages as they are, without updating? 
> 
> Package names don't change too often between releases, only versions do.

Good thought, but it wasn't what I was thinking about. My guess was
regarding to self build packages, that aren't available by any
repository. Some might still work, if the OP would keep them, but others
might miss needed dependencies.

I agree that package names usually don't change that often, resp. for
the distro I prefer at the moment, there are relatively often changes
for the package names, so it's not completely unusual.

Upstream might switch from one lib to another, the names are still the
same, but a package might not need lib A anymore, but does need lib B
nowadays. And for sure, a package perhaps need version = X and a new
version is > X.

Regards,
Ralf


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erratic wireless connection (configuration mistake?)

[Charles Blair]

   I am running a dual-boot debian (wheezy/sid)/windows 8 on
a 3-months-old Toshiba desktop.  Sometimes my wireless
connection (from Debian) stops working after an hour or so,
at other times the connection is not established at all.
When running windows, the desired connection with a LAN
using the access name "JF Basement" seems to be working
consistently.

   I think that, during installation, I failed to supply "JF
Basement" as the desired network connection, and that debian
is temporarily getting and then losing access to some other
network.  In the same location as the desktop, a laptop
running debian 6.0.6 is working consistently.

   The /etc/networks file on the laptop:

default 0.0.0.0
loopback127.0.0.0
link-local  169.254.0.0
JF Basement 50.129.94.204

   The /etc/networks file on the desktop:

default 0.0.0.0
loopback127.0.0.0
link-local  169.254.0.0

   Thanks for advice (as simple as possible) on how to fix
this. 


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Nvidia and 4 monitors in 7.1

[Dan Serban]

Forgive the long message, but I want to cover everything I've tried
and want to know if there's anything else I can attempt to rectify my
issue.  First, some background.

I have been running 3 screens successfully with the nvidia binary driver
for some time.  This was done using the Base Mosaic mode that nvidia added
to their drivers about a year ago.  This method allowed me to have 3
monitors act as one screen under X.  Two were attached to the primary card
and the third to the second.

As an admin and a programmer I've found my vertical space limited and added
a fourth 24" screen in portrait mode so that I can run vim on it to code.
I won't go into the merits of doing so, though suffice it to say, once I
tried it... I never want to go back.

So here's my problem.

I figured that I could simply add another nvidia card to drive the fourth
monitor without affecting the Base Mosaic mode on the first three
monitors.  This turns out, is not an option as the driver explicitly states
that only one screen is allowed when running Base Mosaic and it happily
disables the second screen. [1]

After attempting many different configurations through xorg.conf, I could
not come up with a method to run the desired setup.

Then I attempted to run an ATI video card for the fourth monitor and upon
bootup it was not detected.  Not listed in lspci.  I then grabbed another
ATI card in case the first was simply broken.  Same result.

So now I am simply running with the original two nvidia cards with the
binary blob and each screen attached to one output on each card (2 monitors
per card).  This is simply a 4 screen X server without the ability to move
windows between monitors which is not ideal.

I have included links to my original xorg.conf [2] setup as well as the
original Xorg.0.log [1] when the fourth monitor was being disabled.

If anyone here has any better ideas on how I can approach this situation,
I'm all ears.

In the interests of brevity, some details were left out, but are
all demonstrated through the links to my Xorg.0.log [1] link and the link to
my xorg.conf [2] file.

[1] http://paste.debian.net/10492/
[2] http://paste.debian.net/10491/

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Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Vi, 21 iun 13, 16:52:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs)
> 
> So the OP will keep some packages as they are, without updating? 

Package names don't change too often between releases, only versions do.

Kind regards,
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Re: Just a question...........

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Vi, 21 iun 13, 17:09:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> Any recommendation for a Torrent client? 

I'm currently using transmission-daemon everywhere, mostly because it 
runs as a daemon :)

I've had good results with rtorrent, but it's not easy to configure/use. 

Ktorrent is a very versatile GUI application, but it was slower than 
rtorrent on the same torrent. Didn't bother investigating why because I 
was migrating away from a GUI application anyway.

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Re: Problem with flash drive

[Linux-Fan]

On 06/21/2013 01:22 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> Dear list -
> 
> I am trying to copy FreeDOS to a flash drive.  I can't make it work.

[...]

> Copy FreeDOS:
> 
> dd if=/home/ethan/Downloads/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdb1
> 63488+0 records in
> 63488+0 records out
> 32505856 bytes (33 MB) copied, 1.30864 s, 24.8 MB/

Was your device mounted while you copied the image with dd? Because this
would clearly result in output similar to yours listed further down.

> Check Mount:
> 
> /dev/sdb1 on /media/bkup type vfat
> (ro,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
> 
> Check Contents:
> 
> rosenberg:/media# ls -la bkup
> ls: cannot access bkup/%f IN (-.--s: Input/output error
> ls: cannot access bkup/in a bat.ch: Input/output error
> ls: cannot access bkup/
>   label: Input/output error
> ls: cannot access bkup/ng used.in: Input/output error
> ls: cannot access bkup/ colon.
> : Input/output error
> ls: cannot access bkup/ry [size.]

[...]

As you did not write you did this and nobody suggested it yet: Do not
use dd while your image is mounted. (I hope you do not find this hint
useless as you probably did so anyway...)

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Re: Just a question...........

[theartloy]

On 21/06/2013 16:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I don't run Debian at the moment and btdownload* seems to be something
> very hidden.

Sorry, replied-to-sender-only! Repost to list. Keyboard shortcuts >.<

http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=btdownloadcurses&mode=filename&suite=stable&arch=any 



It is in both the bittornado and bittorrent packages. Take your pick :)

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Re: Just a question...........

[staticsafe]

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 05:09:51PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:44 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Vi, 21 iun 13, 16:32:33, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > 
> > > Seriously, are there serious, legal torrents for something that is
> > > available by ftp/http/s too, so that we can do comparisons?
> > 
> > Debian images.
> 
> Thank you, that's a good idea.
> 
> http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/
> http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/
> 
> Any recommendation for a Torrent client? For downloads from http/ftp I
> usually use wget and sometimes Firefox instead.
> 

rtorrent, if you are looking for something on the CLI.

http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/rtorrent/rtorrent.1.html
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide
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Re: Ethernet Card not detected

[Yongbo Zuo]

Hi

Thanks for your advise, I am a little lost here,
My motherboard has Intel(R) GbE LAN chip (10/100/1000 Mbit) for internet
connection, I don't have an independent ethernet card that uses pci slot,
This is the specification of my motherboard:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4488#sp


I checked the firmware, I don't know which one is needed for Intel(R) GbE LAN
chip (10/100/1000 Mbit),
should I get an independent ethernet card?
or should I download any driver from intel?

Sorry to bother so much, I am pretty new to linux.

Thanks,



Kind Regards,
Yongbo

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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Klaus  wrote:

> Please have a look at the Debian wiki: 
> 
> >
> There are firmware packages in the Debian distribution, and Intel for
> example also provides a tarball of drivers. Do you know which Ethernet
> interface you have on-board your motherboard? In my case it looks like this:
>
> $ lspci | grep -i ethernet
> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168
> PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
>
>
>
>
> On 21/06/13 06:15, Yongbo Zuo wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Sorry to ask the question again, there was a problem for my subscript to
>> the maillist.
>>
>> I have built up my own pc, which has the GigaByte mother boarder
>> Z87X-UD4H, and Intel i4770k CPU, and AMD HD7970 GPU.
>>
>> When I intall Debian 7.0, wheezy, it cannot detect the ethernet card
>> when detecting the hardwares after I select the "Graphical Install".
>>
>> So, in this case, even I finish the installation, I cannot connect to
>> the internet because of the lack of ethernet card.
>>
>> And, I have win7 installed on another hard driver, and the network is
>> working well in win7.
>>
>> By the way, I think, Z87X-UD4H has integrated ethernet card.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Yongbo
>>
>> Mr. Yongbo Zuo
>> Design Engineer 2
>> Advanced Micro Devices, MHDC, Fort Collins, CO
>> Master of Science
>> Computer Engineering in Virginia Tech
>> Phone: 5408087209
>> Mailing Address: 2950 E Harmony Rd, Suite 300, Fort Collins, CO 80528
>>
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Re: Just a question...........

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 11:28 -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 05:09:51PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > Any recommendation for a Torrent client? For downloads from http/ftp I
> > usually use wget and sometimes Firefox instead.
> 
> I always use btdownloadcurses. Minimal overhead.

I don't run Debian at the moment and btdownload* seems to be something
very hidden.


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Re: Just a question...........

[Rob Owens]

- Original Message -
> From: "Ralf Mardorf" 

> Any recommendation for a Torrent client? For downloads from http/ftp
> I
> usually use wget and sometimes Firefox instead.
> 
Transmission is pretty easy to get started with.  I can't comment on whether 
it's faster or slower than others.

-Rob


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Re: Just a question...........

[Carl Fink]

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 05:09:51PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> Any recommendation for a Torrent client? For downloads from http/ftp I
> usually use wget and sometimes Firefox instead.

I always use btdownloadcurses. Minimal overhead.
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Re: Just a question...........

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 10:56 -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> archive.org -- those are available via direct download and bittorrent.
> But I've noticed that some of the torrents are poorly seeded or not
> seeded at all.

Interesting website :), thank you.



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Re: Just a question...........

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:44 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 21 iun 13, 16:32:33, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 
> > Seriously, are there serious, legal torrents for something that is
> > available by ftp/http/s too, so that we can do comparisons?
> 
> Debian images.

Thank you, that's a good idea.

http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/
http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

Any recommendation for a Torrent client? For downloads from http/ftp I
usually use wget and sometimes Firefox instead.


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Re: Authentication required keeps popping up

[Chris Capon]

On 2013-06-17 17:51, Bob Proulx wrote:

Chris Capon wrote:

Since upgrading to Debian Stable (Wheezy), the Gnome desktop has a
popup which occurs at least once a day asking for authentication.
The exact message is:

  Authentication is required to update packages

This sounds like Bug#708548.  This thread on debian-devel is
concerning this problem.

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/06/msg00341.html

No resolution yet.  But it is a big problem because it is training
people to fall prey to phishing attacks.

Bob


I agree with the bug report.  When a user initiates an action (like 
launching Synaptic) having a security prompt request credentials is fine 
because its intuitive.  For system generated actions which just show up 
at arbitrary times, there should be a clear way of letting the user know 
which software package is making the request. Otherwise, the security is 
pointless because the user is simply going to have to guess one way or 
the other in the end.


For those with the same problem, I found a solution:

-  From the Gnome desktop, go to Activities, Applications, System Tools.
-  Launch the icon called "Software Settings".
-  Select the "Update Settings" tab.
-  Set the "Check for updates" setting to "Never".
-  Set the "Automatically install" setting to "Nothing".

Each of the two settings seem to work independently from the other, so 
they were both responsible for one security prompt each.  Be aware, this 
will disable some sort of software update checking by Gnome.  The Gnome 
update process may possibly be using the PackageKit and PolicyKit 
infrastructure, and is also different from "update-manager" (which 
doesn't do these security prompts).  Very confusing.  Personally, I use 
a shell script which calls apt-get to keep things simple.


Anyway, thanks to all who helped point me in the right direction.
Cheers.


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Re: Just a question...........

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Vi, 21 iun 13, 16:32:33, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> Seriously, are there serious, legal torrents for something that is
> available by ftp/http/s too, so that we can do comparisons?

Debian images.

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NTP Problems

[Rob van der Putten]

Hi there


Setup;
==
My NTP setup uses 4 remote and 3 local clocks. The local clocks are 
GPS-NMEA, GPS-PPS and DCF77.
I never got the PPS (on DCD) to work with a default Debian kernel and 
NTPD, so I use David J. Schwartz' shared memory driver. It is loaded 
just after the first time after boot that the PPP link (my ISP provides 
either PPPoA or PPPoE) has come up and the NTPD is synchronised within a 
few ms. The NTPD then is restarted and starts using PPS. So far so good;


http://www.sput.nl/ntpstats/sput/
http://www.sput.nl/ntpstats/parents/

A problem that occurred earlier;

Using DCF77 on a multi serial card doesn't quite work. After a while 
NTPD will ignore DCF77 info. Restarting NTPD NTPS 'solves' the problem. 
Using a regular serial card on the mother board prevents the problem.


I don't know if this is a serial-card problem, a motherboard problem, a 
kernel problem, a NTPD problem or a combination thereof. I do know that 
I'm not the only one with this problem.


I suspect the 200 ms pulses may have something to do with it;

Normal data; One startbit (0), 8 databits (0 or 1), one stopbit (1);

   -+   +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+-
| S | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | S
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
  .   .
 /|\ /|\
  |   |
  Check; Is bit 0?Check; Is bit 1?
  If not; Framing error   If not; Framing error

Data from DCF77 receiver;

A '0' is coded as a 100 ms pulse (the ports reads 240 / 0xF0);

   -+   +-
|  100 ms   |
+---+

A '1' is coded as a 200 ms pulse (the port reads 0);

   -+   +-
| 200 ms|
+---+
  .
 /|\
  |
  Framing error

If this is the case limiting the pulse length to 180 ms will solve the 
problem; The port still reads 0, but without framing errors.

I didn't test this. I just use a regular serial port.

A more recent problem;
==
This is since I upgraded to Wheezy;
After a PPP link restart, the remote clocks show large offsets and 
delays. Sometimes more than a second. Restarting NTPD solves the 
problem. So I edited /etc/ppp/ip-up to restart NTPD.


More weirdness;
===
A thunderstorm messes up DCF77. After all, it's long wave radio.
What is new is, a completely flat line in the DCF77 graph;
http://www.sput.nl/ntpstats/parents/combi-offset-dcf-flat.png
It is as if the NTPD stops reading data for a few hours. Which is 
inconsistent with the DCF77 errors reported in the syslog. There are 
long periods where no errors are reported.

So again, NTPD ignores input.


Regards,
Rob


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Re: Just a question...........

[Rob Owens]

- Original Message -
> From: "Ralf Mardorf" 
> Seriously, are there serious, legal torrents for something that is
> available by ftp/http/s too, so that we can do comparisons?
> 

Linux ISOs -- Debian and CentOS at the very least.  In my experience, these 
torrents download very fast.

Also, check out the live music collection on archive.org -- those are available 
via direct download and bittorrent.  But I've noticed that some of the torrents 
are poorly seeded or not seeded at all.

-Rob


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Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs)

So the OP will keep some packages as they are, without updating? Ok, but
the OP should be aware, that dependencies might be broken and in the end
the above command + updating Debian packages doesn't result in anything
different than "dpkg --set-selections < list.txt" does ;).


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Re: wacky question

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 16:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 20 iun 13, 18:41:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 
> > The USA and similar countries IMO aren't dangerous for most of us, since
> > I suspect that less of us are terrorists. 
> 
> Sorry, but I don't accept this argument. Just because we personally may 
> not be targeted is still no excuse to tolerate it when a government, any 
> government, is not respecting a person's rights.

I agree with you, but they are still not dangerous for me, since I'm a
German. If my own country will get even harmless data, it's different
for me. I guess most us aren't from the USA, since this is an
international mailing list. This thread, perhaps should be moved to the
off-topic list?

Regards,
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Re: Just a question...........

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 16:48 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> - bittorrent client (some clients are able to download the same torrent 
>   much faster)

So you perhaps can name some clients that are slow and others that are
fast? I seldom use BitTorrent, but sometimes and have tested several
clients, without noticing a big difference, excepted from the provided
options, such as faking the IP.

> - phase of the moon, etc.

I like obscure phenomenons :D, btw. I experienced poltergeist effects,
but no poltergeists was that kind, that he/she/it does something while
I'm watching :D, seemingly poltergeists are cowards ;). It's likely that
not the gravitation of the moon opened a drawer, neither it's likely
that a poltergeist did it, I guess a spy from the NSA did, when I leaved
the kitchen for a short toilet visit, so there wasn't time to close the
drawer, the spy had to escape, before I was back. Now the USA does know
how many teaspoons I own.

> Also bittorrent can stress your system in interesting ways (e.g. it 
> generates a lot of I/O) and requires decent networking stack and 
> hardware.

If you do something were those resources are very important, than you
can notice unwanted side effects for nearly everything, perhaps not for
echo "hallo world". IMO real-time audio still is a textbook example for
hypersensitivity, but I suspect using a torrent client would allow even
to do an audio/MIDI production at the same time, however I prefer not to
do this. Theoretically, if you set up rules, for the audio example the
torrent client should experienced issues, not the audio production, but
in reality we still have phases of the moon and nobody does know what
secrets are caused by dark matter.

Seriously, are there serious, legal torrents for something that is
available by ftp/http/s too, so that we can do comparisons?

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 20 iun 13, 00:42:56, Bill.M wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking that what I need to generate is a diff list of packages
> installed on my current Squeeze that aren't in the standard Squeeze
> and then feed that into apt on Wheezy. But how to do that? How to
> generate the Squeeze list? I haven't located any advice.

Let me be the dissenting voice and suggest something not involving
dpkg --get-selections.

0. Run:

aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?not(?origin(Debian))?installed' > 
non-Debian.pkgs

The non-Debian.pkgs will now contain a list of packages that are *not* 
from Debian.

Depending on the amount of packages I would start researching where they 
come from (apt-cache policy ) and try to replace with Debian 
alternatives. Also look if the provider has versions available for 
wheezy.

1. Install a fresh wheezy.
2. migrate the relevant sources.lists entries (i.e. replace squeeze with 
wheezy wherever possible) or download the wheezy versions of non-Debian 
packages.
3. Install downloaded packages with dpkg -i (but you should know that) 
and all other packages with

aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs)

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Re: Just a question...........

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 20 iun 13, 09:18:29, Conrad Nelson wrote:
> (I have never in all my time seen a single torrent beat the speeds of 
> straight up downloading.)

I have. I my experience it may depend on:

- bittorrent client (some clients are able to download the same torrent 
  much faster)
- seeder/leecher counts and ratio (obvious)
- where these seeders/leechers are (i.e. it helps if some of them are in 
  the same country or even connected to the same ISP, for obvious 
  reasons)
- how your ISP handles bittorent (some ISPs here even advertise good 
  bittorrent speeds)
- phase of the moon, etc.

Also bittorrent can stress your system in interesting ways (e.g. it 
generates a lot of I/O) and requires decent networking stack and 
hardware.

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Re: Mdadm drive fail power cord issue.

[Muhammad Yousuf Khan]

Sorry for the late response.


On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > one of our server's drive failed due to power cord issue.
> > however i plug it back and due to less experience with "parted" i messed
> > the whole thing.
>
> If it was a power cord issue, and you plugged it back in, then there
> should be no need to use parted.  Simply mdadm re-add the drive to the
> raid array.  If the drive was running correctly before then the
> partitions on the drive would have been correct.  There should be no
> need to make any changes to the partition table.
>
> > i have 2tbx2 RAID 1 mirror
>
> Nice box.
>
> Thanks :)



> > and have 4x500GB partitions.
>
> And understand that each of those partitions are set up as RAID 1 mirror.
>
> > even i selected the right drive by "select command" and deleted the right
> > partition but parted did something worst though, i take it as my own
> > mistake as i am not that experience with parted i am usually using fdisk.
>
> Why were you trying to delete, add, or modify any partition?  You said
> you had a power cord issue.  Did you replace the disk with a different
> disk?  If you replaced the disk with a different disk then you will
> need to clone the partition table.  If you are using the same disk as
> before then do not modify the partition table.
>

actually i did that by mistake :)


>
> > now the problem part is i can not re attach the fail drive partition with
> > RAID /dev/md[2,3,4] devices.
> >
> > Personalities : [raid1]
> > md1 : active (auto-read-only) raid1 sdc1[0]
> >   488147776 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [U_]
> >
> > md4 : active raid1 sdb4[0]
> >   488670072 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [U_]
> >
> > md3 : active raid1 sdb3[0]
> >   488279928 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [U_]
> >
> > md2 : active raid1 sdb2[0]
> >   488279928 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [U_]
>
> This shows two devices.  It shows /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc.  All four
> raid partitions are operating in degraded mode using only one device.
> Note that the sizes are not quite identical.
>
> But that is only part of the data.  You need to use mdadm to display
> the data that you need.  Please show the output of each of the following
> commands:
>
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md1
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md2
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md3
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md4
>
>
root@nasbox:~#  mdadm --detail /dev/md1
/dev/md1:
Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Thu Jun 13 23:46:28 2013
 Raid Level : raid1
 Array Size : 488147776 (465.53 GiB 499.86 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 488147776 (465.53 GiB 499.86 GB)
   Raid Devices : 2
  Total Devices : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

Update Time : Thu Jun 13 23:46:28 2013
  State : clean, degraded
 Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
 Failed Devices : 0
  Spare Devices : 0

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   8   330  active sync   /dev/sdc1
   1   001  removed
root@nasbox:~#   mdadm --detail /dev/md2
/dev/md2:
Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Wed May  9 20:19:59 2012
 Raid Level : raid1
 Array Size : 488279928 (465.66 GiB 500.00 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 488279928 (465.66 GiB 500.00 GB)
   Raid Devices : 2
  Total Devices : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

Update Time : Fri Jun 21 17:20:34 2013
  State : clean, degraded
 Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
 Failed Devices : 0
  Spare Devices : 0

   Name : archive:2
   UUID : c417ee7a:ad1eedf5:73043caa:e15bceb3
 Events : 3320

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   8   180  active sync   /dev/sdb2
   1   001  removed
root@nasbox:~#   mdadm --detail /dev/md3
/dev/md3:
Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Wed May  9 20:20:11 2012
 Raid Level : raid1
 Array Size : 488279928 (465.66 GiB 500.00 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 488279928 (465.66 GiB 500.00 GB)
   Raid Devices : 2
  Total Devices : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

Update Time : Fri Jun 21 12:38:13 2013
  State : clean, degraded
 Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
 Failed Devices : 0
  Spare Devices : 0

   Name : archive:3
   UUID : 6e63959f:b2947908:46bbbe04:211639f6
 Events : 6206

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   8   190  active sync   /dev/sdb3
   1   001  removed
root@nasbox:~#   mdadm --detail /dev/md4
/dev/md4:
Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Wed May  9 20:39:03 2012
 Raid Level : raid1
 Array Size : 488670072 (466.03 GiB 500.40 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 488670072 (466.03 GiB 500.40 GB)
   Raid Devices : 2
  Total Devices : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

Update Time : Fri Jun 21 12:38:13 2013
  State : clean, degraded
 Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
 Failed Devices : 0
  Spare Devices : 0

   Name : archive:4

Re: Just a question...........

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 20 iun 13, 23:22:23, Chris Bannister wrote:
> 
> I think I remember reading about a discussion of implementing a system
> where apt-get only downloads the changes to files. It wouldn't suprise
> me if something like this was implemented at some point way down the
> track.

apt-cache show debdelta

I actually have it installed, but I always forget to run 
debdelta-upgrade between update and upgrade.

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Re: wacky question

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 20 iun 13, 18:41:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> The USA and similar countries IMO aren't dangerous for most of us, since
> I suspect that less of us are terrorists. 

Sorry, but I don't accept this argument. Just because we personally may 
not be targeted is still no excuse to tolerate it when a government, any 
government, is not respecting a person's rights.

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Re: Sid Libc6 Upgrade

[Yaro Yaro]

I noticed if you set this to upgrade in Synaptic it will require you to
pretty much remove your entire Debian install package by package.
On Jun 21, 2013 3:40 AM, "David Baron"  wrote:
>
> These packages are "held back" right now because of a changeover from
package:arch to package-arch, it seems.
>
>
>
> Ready to play, or should be back off for a while?

Re: apt pinning for deb-multimedia does not work

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 20 iun 13, 20:13:06, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 18 iun 13, 18:00:37, Roland Hieber wrote:
> 
> > But nevertheless, apt still assigns a prio of 500:

Actually it doesn't, 500 is the priority of the source, the package 
itself has 250 (the number behind the version).
 
> > $ apt-cache policy libavdevice53
> > libavdevice53:
> >   Installed: 6:9.3-1
> >   Candidate: 7:0.10.3-dmo1
> >   Package pin: 7:0.10.3-dmo1
> >   Version table:
> >  7:0.10.3-dmo1 250
> > 500
> > http://debian-multimedia.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/debian-multimedia/
> > testing/main amd64 Packages
> >  *** 6:9.3-1 250
> > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >  6:0.8.6-1 250
> > 500 http://debian.tu-bs.de/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
> > 
> > 
> > However, if I change the pinning to Package: *, everything works as
> > expected (for all packages of course, but I don't need that :P)
> > 
> > Is this a PEBCAK, or is this a bug in apt?

I think we didn't understand priorities correctly. Let's see again what 
the fine manual (apt_preferences(5)) says:

   How APT Interprets Priorities
   Priorities (P) assigned in the APT preferences file must be 
   positive or negative integers. They are interpreted as follows 
   (roughly speaking):

   [...]

   500 <= P < 990
   causes a version to be installed unless there is a version 
   available belonging to the target release or the installed 
   version is more recent

As per above output you have 6:9.3-1 installed, which is more recent 
than 6:0.8.6-1. Because of this apt wants to jump directly to the higher 
version from dmo (apt will not downgrade unless the priority is higher 
than 1000). Does this make sense?

Solution: uninstall 6:9.3-1 and apt will then prefer the Debian version.

Kind regards,
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Re: Debian is the best!

[Dirk]

On 06/21/13 01:15, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:09:27 -0400 (EDT), Dirk wrote:


how does grub boot a kernel better than lilo?

this is all [expletive deleted]... the linux community is now full of people who
speak like some marketing shills...

freedesktop reinvents windows badly..

and now people are talking themselves into that they need features
/before/ the OS kernel has been loaded... so much [expletive deleted] fail...

if i was younger and still more caring it would really hurt to see this
[expletive deleted]...

we live in the age of aggressive reputation management now... forums and
mailing lists have become cancers..

[expletive deleted] you all


I understand your frustration.  However, the use of foul language on
Debian mailing lists is prohibited.  Please refrain from using it.  See

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct


i have seen enough



If you have had it with grub2 and wish to switch back to lilo, see
my lilo web page at

http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm



thanks.


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Re: Re: preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Brian]

On Fri 21 Jun 2013 at 07:12:46 -0400, Tom H wrote:

> >> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:06:22 +0100, Brian  wrote:
> >
> > The templates file in the partman-auto-lvm udeb should tell you.
> 
> You can look at the files in "/var/log/installer/cdebconf/" before
> rummaging through udebs. :)

udebs are primary, up-to-date sources of information. Rummaging through
them is good for the soul. :)


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Plea for comprehensibility was:Re: Build error on mediatomb

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 21 June 2013 11:42:49 Yohann Bianchi wrote:
> I ran into a similar issue. After a little digging, it seems that the
> function mentioned (MP4GetMetadataName, MP4GetMetadataYear,
> MP4GetMetadataGenre…) belongs to the MP4v2 Metadata API of mp4v2.
> Unfortunately, this API has been deprecated and then removed in version
> 2.0.0.
>
> The solution maybe to use an older version of mp4v2 (not tested).

I am finding the present trend on this list to break threads, and post without 
quoting, very confusing and difficult to follow.  Some of you (many of you?) 
have I know got photographic memories, but I haven't. :-(

"I ran into a similar issue."   Similar to what?

So please, people, could you both quote and, where possible, maintain 
threading?  I know that Gmail makes it a pain, which is why I use Gmail as an 
archive, but not as an email client.

Thanks,
Lisi


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Fwd: iptables and networking

[Redalert Commander]

Forward message back to the list, as agreed to by Igor.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Igor Cicimov
Date: 2013/6/21
Subject: Re: iptables and networking
To: Steven Post



On 21/06/2013 5:21 AM, "Steven Post"  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 12:53 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > Hi Steven and thanks for your reply :-)
>
> You're welcome.
>
> >
> > This is my full iptables config:
> [... snip iptables rules...]
> >
> > with this way my actually server runs perfectly. Is there other rules to
> > block ddos attack, or other type of attacks?
>
> A real ddos cannot really be blocked by using iptables on the server, as
> an attacker might just be flooding the connection, there are commercial
> services for that if you really want them, but these are not cheap.
>
> Some other things you might consider blocking on the firewall are
> repeated attempts to log in to the server, such as a brute force attack
> on your SSH service.
> You can block repeated attempts to log in with iptables using the
> 'recent' module, an alternative is 'fail2ban', which monitors your
> server logs (ssh, apache, and others) for failed login attempts and then
> adds an iptables rule for the offending IP. It is available in the
> repository, but I cannot comment on its working much as I don't use it
> (yet?). I heard it's really good.
>
> For my simple home server I use the 'recent' module:
> iptables -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m
> recent --set
> iptables -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m
> recent --update --seconds 120 --hitcount 3 -j DROP
> iptables -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -j
> ACCEPT
>
> This blocks new connections if a host attempts more than 3 connections
> within 120 seconds, still enough if I type in the wrong password
> (openssh will allow 3 attempts before disconnecting if I recall
> correctly). This is sufficient for most attacks on ssh, of course you
> already disabled direct root login.
>
> In some cases the 'limit' module for iptables might be useful, for
> example (not really a good one):
> iptables -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -m
> limit --limit 1/min --limit-burst 3 -j ACCEPT
>
> This will only allow 1 connection attempt on an FTP server per minute,
> with an initial burst of 3 before limiting.
>
> Regards,
> Steven
>
> PS: no need to send the mail directly to me, I'm subscribed to the list.
>

Another option is the hashlimit module. Its based simply on the fact
that ddos sends bursts of traffic over the connection. Example below
for port 80 but can be applied to 22 or any othet service.

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m hashlimit --hashlimit-upto
50/min \ --hashlimit-burst 500 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-name
http -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j DROP

What this does is allows up to 500 packets (not connections, because
HTTP can do multiple transactions per connection you have to consider
whether you want to do this on all packets or SYN packets only). If
there are more than 500/min, it will then throttle it down to 50/min
until the rate drops. Anything outside of these limits gets dropped.

This combined with limiting the number of simultanious connections per
source ip and low connection timeout should give good ddos protection.


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Re: Problem with flash drive

[ken]

On 06/21/2013 12:29 AM Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

Ken -

Tried what you said, but I cannot make it work.



dd if=/home/ethan/DOSutil/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdb
63488+0 records in
63488+0 records out
32505856 bytes (33 MB) copied, 0.447414 s, 72.7 MB/s


At this point you can try to reboot into FreeDOS.  That is, with the 
flash drive inserted, do a shutdown and then restart the computer again. 
 (Many Linuxes have a 'reboot' command you can run as root.  You may 
also have a menu item in your GUI for shutting down and/or rebooting.)


During the reboot process, you'll want to check the computer's BIOS to 
make sure that whatever the flashdrive is plugged into (USB, I assume) 
is an acceptable boot device and that it is checked before your normal 
boot device (which, I'm assuming is your hard drive).  If you don't know 
or are unsure about how to do settings in your BIOS, then please read up 
on that before changing anything.  You should have gotten a manual with 
your computer-- or perhaps you can download the manual from the web.





rosenberg:/media# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sdb: 4051 MB, 4051697664 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 3864 cylinders, total 7913472 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 FAT16 (LBA)



You didn't have to do the step above, but it doesn't hurt anything.  In 
this case, it's good that you did it, only because it shows that the 'dd 
...' command did its work properly.


Is 'fdisk -l' really the entire command you typed in to get the above 
output?




Was there another command you ran prior to running the one below?  If 
not, perhaps there's some automount script which ran in invisibly in 
background.  In any event, the output from the command below shows a 
valid vfat system written to /dev/sdb1... also a good sign.  But as said 
above, you should try to reboot into FreeDOS to test the image you put 
on your flashdrive.



rosenberg:/media# mount
/dev/sdb1 on /media/bkup type vfat
(ro,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)





Since we don't know what was mounted, it's hard to know what to say 
about the below.



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Thanks for everything, but I am still stuck.

Ethan
=
On 06/20/2013 07:22 PM Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

Dear list -

I am trying to copy FreeDOS to a flash drive.  I can't make it work.

This is what I have done -

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdb: 4051 MB, 4051697664 bytes
125 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1021 cylinders, total 7913472 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector

Re: Re: preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Tom H]

>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:06:22 +0100, Brian  wrote:
> On Thu 20 Jun 2013 at 21:58:36 +0100, Iain M Conochie wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to create a preseed file using LVM but with no boot 
partition.
>> When partman runs, it creates recognises the partitons but stops to 
ask if I
>> wish to continue as I have no /boot partition. I answere yes 
(twice!) and the

>> installation continues. I can boot the installed system
>>
>> Does anyone know an option to give in the preseed file to partman to 
skip

>> this question?
>
> The templates file in the partman-auto-lvm udeb should tell you.

You can look at the files in "/var/log/installer/cdebconf/" before 
rummaging through udebs. :)



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Re: Build error on mediatomb

[Yohann Bianchi]

I ran into a similar issue. After a little digging, it seems that the function 
mentioned (MP4GetMetadataName, MP4GetMetadataYear, MP4GetMetadataGenre…) 
belongs to the MP4v2 Metadata API of mp4v2.
Unfortunately, this API has been deprecated and then removed in version 2.0.0.

The solution maybe to use an older version of mp4v2 (not tested).

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Re: wacky question

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 09:23 +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:33:41 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 15:25 -0700, Scott Linnenbringer wrote:
> > > Facebook stores every wall post, private message, photo, etc even
> > > after you remove from wall, delete or untag.
> > 
> > In some countries this is forbidden.
> > 
> 
> Meaning that only the government can do it.
> 
> But if forbidden things didn't have a way of happening, we would have
> no need for police, prisons etc., the existence of the law would
> guarantee good behaviour.
> 
> It is safest to assume that any available technology *will* be used by
> one's own government, and any private organisations large enough to
> lean on members of that government.

I agree with this, at the moment a lawyer is helping me, regarding to a
data protection issue, that has to do with a German department. This
department needs information about me, so they need a file containing
this + tons of other information. They want to archive the file and
"guarantee" that nobody in their house will read anything, but the
needed information only. I want to give them the needed information only
and not the complete file. It's an expert report and I want an
independent expert to do it and to give them just the needed
information, but they want the report from their own expert.

That is completely against the "idea" of the German law, even the lawyer
said, that I'm right, but it's normal and we can't do much against it.
This is about a file made of paper.

I guess they don't do it in bad faith, they simply don't think about
data protection. However, the times are changing and misuse is very
likely. I once was in private contact with a women working for a German
department and she verified what I've written her privately, without the
permission to do it. Since I'm not a liar she only get the same
information I already gave her, but it's anyway not correct to do it and
does show how (un)save data is at German departments.

OTOH the commissioner for data protection is interested, when there are
issues regarding to computer data protection. If you like, you can send
each spam you received to the commissioner for data protection and (s)he
will directly forward it to the public prosecution department and they
directly take action. The problem here usually are servers in other
countries. You'll get a mail that the German public prosecution
department is working together with public prosecution departments of
other nations to fight against some very dangerous spammers. Note, not
all spam mail simply is ludicrous, some spam is dangerous for
inexperienced computer users.

IOW, if Facebook would have servers in Germany, they need to offer the
German government something very useful or they need to follow the
German law. I don't think that Facebook can offer something very useful
to a government, OTOH Facebook can offer useful information for
companies, such as the once from the food processing industry/mafia and
their lobby might have marionettes who are members of the German
government.

Sure, there are security wholes and you need self-responsibility and
need to fight against misuse and most people are neither
self-responsible, nor do they fight against misuse of their data. You
can test it, randomly call a phone number and ask for private data using
a trick or simply take a look in the headers of some mails, sometimes
you see private servers and you can get telephone numbers and addresses
of people who want to be anonyme at e.g. denic.de within a few seconds.

But again, I really don't know what Facebooks offers, that so many
people are subscribed to it. Is there something we could use Facebook
for? I'm a lone wolf, it's work for me to keep up a hand full of
friends, I'm unable to do it for 500 virtual friends and I don't see
anything useful in it. Btw. the handful of friends I've got don't
devastate my possession and I don't want to have "friends" from Facebook
doing this.

IIUC Facebook is for people who are unable to do something useful with
the less time we have to live, instead of learning, being creative, they
tend to be destructive, uninterested in science and arts etc., but they
like to party, to party and to party.


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module psmouse not loading: unknown symbol input_mt_assign_slot ...

[area234]

Hello,

I am trying to build an embedded system based on wheezy for 486. When I 
boot the system all is fine except when the system tries to load the 
psmouse module. All kernel modules are correctly loaded, but

psmouse throws the error

psmouse: unknown symbol input_mt_assign_slots (err0)
psmouse: unknown symbol input_mt_sync_frame (err0)
psmouse: unknown symbol input_mt_init_slots_flags (err0)
modprobe: can't load module psmouse 
(kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko): unknown symbol in module, or 
unknown parameter


These symbols are defined in the /boot/System.map-3.2.0-4-486, if I run 
depmod on this system there is no error, so it seems that all 
dependencies are correct. Why modprobe do not find these symbols in the 
system map?


Any hint is welcome. Thank you in advance.

Fabrizio


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Re: preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Tom H]

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:58:36, Iain M Conochie  wrote:
>
> I am trying to create a preseed file using LVM but with no boot 
partition.
> When partman runs, it creates recognises the partitons but stops to 
ask if I
> wish to continue as I have no /boot partition. I answere yes (twice!) 
and the

> installation continues. I can boot the installed system
>
> Does anyone know an option to give in the preseed file to partman to 
skip

> this question?

d-i partman-auto-lvm/no_boot boolean true


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Re: preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Iain M. Conochie]

Thanks Brian. I will check this out and report back.

Cheers

Iain

Brian  wrote:

>On Thu 20 Jun 2013 at 21:58:36 +0100, Iain M Conochie wrote:
>
>>   I am trying to create a preseed file using LVM but with no boot
>partition. 
>> When partman runs, it creates recognises the partitons but stops to
>ask if I 
>> wish to continue as I have no /boot partition. I answere yes (twice!)
>and the 
>> installation continues. I can boot the installed system
>> 
>>   Does anyone know an option to give in the preseed file to partman
>to skip 
>> this question?
>
>The templates file in the partman-auto-lvm udeb should tell you.
>
>
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Re: Debian Wheezy & SSD+HDD configuration

[Alan Chandler]

On 08/06/13 02:27, Fran wrote:

Hello list,

I just installed Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" on what I call my new workstation.
It's a pretty standard setup: right now I installed Debian on the first
SATA drive (a 120Gb SSD drive) and mounted my 1Tb HDD as my home
partition with no problems at all.


I have a set up in which I have a 200GB SSD and a pair of 2 TB HDDs.  I 
did some things rather differently


1) I split the SSD into two partitions.  The first one is 60GB and has 
root on it.  The second is the rest and is an lvm volume group
2) My two HDD are both split into three partitions.  20GB at the front, 
then 12GB swap and the remainder for each half of a RAID1 setup with lvm 
sitting on top


My rationale for 1 is

60GB is more than enough for a debian root - that allows me to allocate 
small elements of the ssd to parts of my home directory where I need 
speed. In my case one logical volume holds the file that is a virtualbox 
system disk for a Windows 7 virtual machine and another holds a software 
development project where there is also a sqlite database that I am 
accessing.



My rationale for 2 is

- the 20GB partitions at the front of each of the two drives can each 
hold a backup configuration.  I normally run sid, but I have wheezy 
installed on one of the two 20GB partitions to give me a fallback boot 
if sid gets screwed after an update.  The other allows me to try other 
distributions - currently installed linux mint.


- I have some swap space to use

- My home directory does not need anything like the rest of the 2TB - so 
I just allocate enough from the lvm that I need for now (but with the 
confidence I can extend it if I run out of space).  The rest I use for 
backups of the SSD and as backup space for other systems at home.




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Re: preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Brian]

On Thu 20 Jun 2013 at 21:58:36 +0100, Iain M Conochie wrote:

>   I am trying to create a preseed file using LVM but with no boot partition. 
> When partman runs, it creates recognises the partitons but stops to ask if I 
> wish to continue as I have no /boot partition. I answere yes (twice!) and the 
> installation continues. I can boot the installed system
> 
>   Does anyone know an option to give in the preseed file to partman to skip 
> this question?

The templates file in the partman-auto-lvm udeb should tell you.


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Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem

[Lars Noodén]

On 06/21/2013 01:04 AM, John wrote:
> 1. #dpkg --get-selections \* | grep -e install -e hold | grep -v
> deinstall > ~/my-selections-$(date +%Y%m%d)

I'd go with the raw output of dpkg:

$ dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-selections-$(date +'%F')

Sometimes it is important to know which packages have been removed.

Regards,
/Lars


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Re: Debian Wheezy & SSD+HDD configuration

[Aharon Fajardo]

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 5:10:02 AM UTC-4, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 08 iun 13, 03:27:20, Fran wrote:
> 
> > Hello list,
> 
> > 
> 
> > I just installed Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" on what I call my new workstation.
> 
> > It's a pretty standard setup: right now I installed Debian on the first
> 
> > SATA drive (a 120Gb SSD drive) and mounted my 1Tb HDD as my home
> 
> > partition with no problems at all.
> 
>  
> 
> Looks like a reasonable setup.
> 
> 
> 
> > I've been reading here and there though, and it's fair to say that the
> 
> > SSD stuff is kind of new to me. I found nice documentation in the Wiki
> 
> > (http://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization) but I hope you don't mind if I
> 
> > ask for your personal opinion about a few things:
> 
> 
> 
> The great thing about a wiki is that anyone can edit it. The bad thing 
> 
> about a wiki is that anyone can edit it ;)
> 
> 
> 
> (you can quote me on this)
> 
> 
> 
> > - Do I really need to set up a complex configuration for partitioning
> 
> > like seen here (http://wiki.debian.org/Multi%20HDD/SSD%20Partition%
> 
> > 20Scheme)? Should I be worried for unexpected errors if not?
> 
> 
> 
> Well you didn't mention the SSD model, but generally no and no.
> 
> Do make good backups, but this is nothing SSD specific.
> 
> 
> 
> > - What are (if any) the *must take into account* aspects when working
> 
> > with an SSD on Debian? Are there any "new routines" I should be aware of
> 
> > right now?
> 
> 
> 
> Not really. Just make sure you used recent enough partitioning tools 
> 
> (but as the wiki says, squeeze is ok already) and maybe set 'noatime' 
> 
> (but since 'relatime' is default now the benefit is rather limited).
> 
> 
> 
> The default scheduler tweak also looks interesting, but again, you 
> 
> probably won't feel the difference.
> 
> 
> 
> Did I mention you should have good backups? :p
> 
> 
> 
> Just sit back and enjoy the speed ;)
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Andrei
> 
> -- 
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
> 
> Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:
> 
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic

Do you have any evidence to back up your statements? I had just bought a 
system76 laptop that is preinstalled with Ubuntu 13.04, and has a nice SSD and 
HDD setup. The problem is that the laptop's hdd comes unpartioned and 
unformatted, while the entire filesytem lives on the SSD. It is a very high-end 
laptop, and God forbid that anything happens to the SSD. Every article I look 
up in my research says that you must be going on a safari in your fstab and 
partitioning your SSD and HDD for certain file directories.
In short, I hope what you're saying is right, but I need to see a second 
opinion or a personal account that supports what you're saying before I make 
any changes to my storage devices.

PS:
My SSD specs are:
120 GB Intel 525 Series mSATA SSD
And my HDD specs are:
500 GB 7200 RPM SATA II

Thank you in advance!


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Re: Debian Wheezy & SSD+HDD configuration

[siriusnoodles]

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 5:10:02 AM UTC-4, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 08 iun 13, 03:27:20, Fran wrote:
> 
> > Hello list,
> 
> > 
> 
> > I just installed Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" on what I call my new workstation.
> 
> > It's a pretty standard setup: right now I installed Debian on the first
> 
> > SATA drive (a 120Gb SSD drive) and mounted my 1Tb HDD as my home
> 
> > partition with no problems at all.
> 
>  
> 
> Looks like a reasonable setup.
> 
> 
> 
> > I've been reading here and there though, and it's fair to say that the
> 
> > SSD stuff is kind of new to me. I found nice documentation in the Wiki
> 
> > (http://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization) but I hope you don't mind if I
> 
> > ask for your personal opinion about a few things:
> 
> 
> 
> The great thing about a wiki is that anyone can edit it. The bad thing 
> 
> about a wiki is that anyone can edit it ;)
> 
> 
> 
> (you can quote me on this)
> 
> 
> 
> > - Do I really need to set up a complex configuration for partitioning
> 
> > like seen here (http://wiki.debian.org/Multi%20HDD/SSD%20Partition%
> 
> > 20Scheme)? Should I be worried for unexpected errors if not?
> 
> 
> 
> Well you didn't mention the SSD model, but generally no and no.
> 
> Do make good backups, but this is nothing SSD specific.
> 
> 
> 
> > - What are (if any) the *must take into account* aspects when working
> 
> > with an SSD on Debian? Are there any "new routines" I should be aware of
> 
> > right now?
> 
> 
> 
> Not really. Just make sure you used recent enough partitioning tools 
> 
> (but as the wiki says, squeeze is ok already) and maybe set 'noatime' 
> 
> (but since 'relatime' is default now the benefit is rather limited).
> 
> 
> 
> The default scheduler tweak also looks interesting, but again, you 
> 
> probably won't feel the difference.
> 
> 
> 
> Did I mention you should have good backups? :p
> 
> 
> 
> Just sit back and enjoy the speed ;)
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Andrei
> 
> -- 
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
> 
> Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:
> 
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic

Do you have any evidence to back up your statements? I had just bought a 
system76 laptop that is preinstalled with Ubuntu 13.04, and has a nice SSD and 
HDD setup. The problem is that the laptop's hdd comes unpartioned and 
unformatted, while the entire filesytem lives on the SSD. It is a very high-end 
laptop, and God forbid that anything happens to the SSD. Every article I look 
up in my research says that you must be going on a safari in your fstab and 
partitioning your SSD and HDD for certain file directories, even making space 
for /var in your RAM memory!
In short, I hope what you're saying is right, but I need to see a second 
opinion or a personal account that supports what you're saying before I make 
any changes to my storage devices.

PS:
My SSD specs are:
120 GB Intel 525 Series mSATA SSD
And my HDD specs are:
500 GB 7200 RPM SATA II

Thank you in advance!


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preseed LVM with no /boot partition on wheezy

[Iain M Conochie]

Good evening people,

  I am trying to create a preseed file using LVM but with no boot partition. 
When partman runs, it creates recognises the partitons but stops to ask if I 
wish to continue as I have no /boot partition. I answere yes (twice!) and the 
installation continues. I can boot the installed system

  Does anyone know an option to give in the preseed file to partman to skip 
this question?

Cheers

Iain


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Re: Problems with CD insertion - sid

[Oliver Elphick]

On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 22:31 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

>...I'd try installing cdtool, and see if it plays
> with that.

Yes, it does.

The position is that udev recognises when an audio CD is inserted or
ejected and it updates the symlinks.  Programs that can be told what
drive to use can see and access the CD.

The problem is that Gnome (?) does not recognise that the CD has been
inserted and so does not initiate the program to play it.  

Rhythmbox needs that same notification to tell it to put the CD device
into the sidebar and thus make it accessible, so rhythmbox cannot be
used at all with an audio CD.

Oliver Elphick




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Sid Libc6 Upgrade

[David Baron]

These packages are "held back" right 
now because of a changeover from 
package:arch to package-arch, it seems.

Ready to play, or should be back off for 
a while?

Re: Tray Icon

[Redalert Commander]

2013/6/21 Ethan Rosenberg, PhD :
> Ralf -
>
> Tried it all.
>
> No luck.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Ethan
> ===
>
> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 19:26 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
>>
>> How do i get the icon that indicates there are updates to download to
>> return?
>
>
> Perhaps it's provided by "update-manager*"? I don't like it, but I
> remember I sometimes had to remove it or something similar, from some
> distro's default installs in the past. Perhaps synaptic does provide
> this option too?
>
>

Assuming Gnome:
IIRC, update-manager has been removed from testing, and I don't think
it is installed
by default in Wheezy (stable). It has been superseded by another
graphical update manager: gnome-packagekit.
This new update manager (part of upstream Gnome) also has an icon in the 'tray',
but looks different, also it doesn't pop up at the same frequency as
the old one,
there might be some delay.

Regards,
Steven


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Re: wacky question

[Joe]

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:33:41 +0200
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 15:25 -0700, Scott Linnenbringer wrote:
> > Facebook stores every wall post, private message, photo, etc even
> > after you remove from wall, delete or untag.
> 
> In some countries this is forbidden.
> 

Meaning that only the government can do it.

But if forbidden things didn't have a way of happening, we would have
no need for police, prisons etc., the existence of the law would
guarantee good behaviour.

It is safest to assume that any available technology *will* be used by
one's own government, and any private organisations large enough to
lean on members of that government.

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Re: Ethernet Card not detected

[Klaus]

Please have a look at the Debian wiki: 
There are firmware packages in the Debian distribution, and Intel for 
example also provides a tarball of drivers. Do you know which Ethernet 
interface you have on-board your motherboard? In my case it looks like this:


$ lspci | grep -i ethernet
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)




On 21/06/13 06:15, Yongbo Zuo wrote:

Hi All

Sorry to ask the question again, there was a problem for my subscript to
the maillist.

I have built up my own pc, which has the GigaByte mother boarder
Z87X-UD4H, and Intel i4770k CPU, and AMD HD7970 GPU.

When I intall Debian 7.0, wheezy, it cannot detect the ethernet card
when detecting the hardwares after I select the "Graphical Install".

So, in this case, even I finish the installation, I cannot connect to
the internet because of the lack of ethernet card.

And, I have win7 installed on another hard driver, and the network is
working well in win7.

By the way, I think, Z87X-UD4H has integrated ethernet card.

Thanks,

Kind Regards,
Yongbo

Mr. Yongbo Zuo
Design Engineer 2
Advanced Micro Devices, MHDC, Fort Collins, CO
Master of Science
Computer Engineering in Virginia Tech
Phone: 5408087209
Mailing Address: 2950 E Harmony Rd, Suite 300, Fort Collins, CO 80528

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Re: Problem with flash drive

[Klaus]

Ethan,

when you create a new partition table on the device, then the kernel 
needs to know about it. With a flash memory card, just unplug and 
re-plug it.
You don't need to run fdisk first, since you copy an entire disk image, 
this comes with partition table and all.

Is your mounting read-only intended?

$ bunzip2  FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img.bz2

$ ls -l FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
-rw-r- 1 klaus klaus 32505856 Jun 21 08:38 FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

$ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdb
63488+0 records in
63488+0 records out
32505856 bytes (33 MB) copied, 5.38615 s, 6.0 MB/s
$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 2017 MB, 2017459712 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 1923 cylinders, total 3940351 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 FAT16 (LBA)

$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 mnt/
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
   missing codepage or helper program, or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so

-  DISCONNECTED DEVICE, THEN PLUGGED BACK IN
-  GETS AUTOMATICALLY MOUNTED IN /MEDIA/$username/$disk-id


$ ls -l /media/klaus/FREEDOS1~1A/
total 111
-rwxr-xr-x 1 klaus klaus 66945 Jan 17  2012 command.com
-rw-r--r-- 1 klaus klaus 45344 Jan 17  2012 kernel.sys

$ cp test.txt /media/klaus/FREEDOS1~1A/

$ ls -l /media/klaus/FREEDOS1~1A/
total 112
-rwxr-xr-x 1 klaus klaus 66945 Jan 17  2012 command.com
-rw-r--r-- 1 klaus klaus 45344 Jan 17  2012 kernel.sys
-rw-r--r-- 1 klaus klaus36 Jun 21 08:48 test.txt


On 21/06/13 05:29, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

Ken -

Tried what you said, but I cannot make it work.

Here is what I did:

fdisk /dev/sdb

Command (m for help): d
Selected partition 1

Command (m for help):
Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdb: 4051 MB, 4051697664 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 3864 cylinders, total 7913472 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System

Command (m for help): n
Partition type:
p   primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free)
e   extended
Select (default p):
Using default response p
Partition number (1-4, default 1):
Using default value 1
First sector (2048-7913471, default 2048): 0
Value out of range.
First sector (2048-7913471, default 2048): 1
Value out of range.
First sector (2048-7913471, default 2048):
Using default value 2048
Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-7913471, default 7913471):
989184

Command (m for help): t
Selected partition 1
Hex code (type L to list codes): e
Changed system type of partition 1 to e (W95 FAT16 (LBA))

Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.

WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or
resource busy.
The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at
the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8)

dd if=/home/ethan/DOSutil/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdb
63488+0 records in
63488+0 records out
32505856 bytes (33 MB) copied, 0.447414 s, 72.7 MB/s

rosenberg:/media# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sdb: 4051 MB, 4051697664 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 3864 cylinders, total 7913472 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 FAT16 (LBA)

rosenberg:/media# mount
/dev/sdb1 on /media/bkup type vfat
(ro,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)


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rosenberg:/media/bkup# ls
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