problème grub
bonjour, j'ai installé une Debian sur un DD USB externe. fontionne bien mais : les menus du DD du PC apparaît lorsque je démarre sur le DD externe. Je choisis le bon menu et c'est parti. MAIS si je mets le DD sur un autre PCil ne trouve pas le DD fixe de l'autre PC (normal) et donc GRUB tombe en ligne de commande. Tenté diverse choses sans succès (entre autres enlever le 30os_chooser et autres trucs comme supprimer les enus dans /boot/grub/grub.cfg) Impossible d'enlever ces foutus menus pour pouvoir tourner à partir d'un autre PC. Et pas rouvé quelque chose dans mon canard. Un petit conseil serait le bienvenu. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53803f70$0$2227$426a7...@news.free.fr
probleme avec driver MP240 Gutenprint
Bonjour, Depuis la version 5.2.10 des drivers gutenprint , j'ai un message d'erreur a l'installation de mon imprimante (unable to copy ppd ! ) Pourriez vous éventuellement me renseigner . je vous remercie. cdt, version debian : root@snow:/usr/lib/cups/backend# cat /etc/debian_version jessie/sid root@snow:/usr/lib/cups/backend# uname -a Linux snow 3.14-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.4-1 (2014-05-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux root@snow:/usr/lib/cups/backend# ci dessous la liste des paquets installés : root@snow:/usr/lib/cups/backend# dpkg -l | grep gutenprint ii cups-driver-gutenprint5.2.10~pre2-2 all transitional dummy package for gutenprint printer driver ii foomatic-db-gutenprint5.2.10~pre2-2 all OpenPrinting printer support - database for Gutenprint printer drivers ii gutenprint-locales5.2.10~pre2-2 all locale data files for Gutenprint ii ijsgutenprint 5.2.10~pre2-2 amd64 inkjet server - Ghostscript driver for Gutenprint ii libgutenprint-dev 5.2.10~pre2-2 amd64 development files for the Gutenprint printer driver library ii libgutenprint25.2.10~pre2-2 amd64 runtime for the Gutenprint printer driver library ii libgutenprintui2-15.2.10~pre2-2 amd64 runtime for the Gutenprint printer driver user interface library ii libgutenprintui2-dev 5.2.10~pre2-2 amd64 development files for the Gutenprint printer driver user interface library ii printer-driver-gutenprint 5.2.10~pre2-2 amd64 printer drivers for CUPS root@snow:/usr/lib/cups/backend# dpkg -l | grep cups ii cups 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD/driver support, web interface ii cups-backend-bjnp 1.2-2 amd64 printer backend for Canon BJNP protocol ii cups-browsed 1.0.53-1 amd64 OpenPrinting CUPS Filters - cups-browsed ii cups-bsd 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands ii cups-client 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client programs (SysV) ii cups-common 1.7.2-3 all Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - common files ii cups-core-drivers 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD-less printing ii cups-daemon 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - daemon ii cups-driver-gutenprint5.2.10~pre2-2 all transitional dummy package for gutenprint printer driver ii cups-filters 1.0.53-1 amd64 OpenPrinting CUPS Filters - Main Package ii cups-filters-core-drivers 1.0.53-1 amd64 OpenPrinting CUPS Filters - PPD-less printing ii cups-pk-helper0.2.5-2 amd64 PolicyKit helper to configure cups with fine-grained privileges ii cups-ppdc 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD manipulation utilities ii cups-server-common1.7.2-3 all Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server common files ii libcups2:amd641.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Core library ii libcups2-dev:amd641.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Development files CUPS library ii libcupscgi1:amd64 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - CGI library ii libcupsfilters-dev1.0.53-1 amd64 OpenPrinting CUPS Filters - Development files for the library ii libcupsfilters1:amd64 1.0.53-1 amd64 OpenPrinting CUPS Filters - Shared library ii libcupsimage2:amd64 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Raster image library ii libcupsimage2-dev 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Development files CUPS image library ii libcupsmime1:amd641.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - MIME library ii libcupsppdc1:amd641.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD manipulation library ii libcupsppdc1-dev 1.7.2-3 amd64 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Development files PPD library ii printer-driver-hpcups 3.14.1-1 amd64HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster driver (hpcups) ii python-cups 1.9.63-1 amd64 Python bindings for CUPS ii python-cupshelpers1.4.3-4 all Python utility modules around the CUPS printing system -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet
Temps d'exécution d'un commande dans un script
Bonjour, J'utilise openbox et fbpanel. Ce dernier met beaucoup de temps a se lancer sur mon vieux portable. Existe-t-il un moyen de savoir quelle est la commande dans mon autostart.sh qui prend le plus de temps et ressource ? Du genre encadrer chaque commande par quelque chose qui log le temps qu'il prend et la charge qu'il cause ? Merci d'avance. -- Benoît Coici ce que contient mon autostart.sh : --- #! /bin/bash # voir /usr/share/keymaps/i386/ setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout fr,fr -variant latin9,dvorak fbpanel xbindkeys # Restauration du dernier wallpaper choisi #nitrogen --restore xsetroot -solid #41496d # Dispose les bureaux dans openbox setlayout 1 2 3 0 #accélération et seuil de présision de la souri #xset m 11/6 #Notification de l'état de la batterie /home/benoit/scripts/warningbattry orage #Choisir la dvorak ou fr xxkb nm-applet #alarmclock #tasque # voir /usr/share/fbxkb/images #fbxkb __ Dans mon .xinitrc : #!/bin/sh DESKTOP=/usr/bin/openbox --startup $HOME/.config/openbox/autostart.sh exec $DESKTOP
Un antiword pour le docx
Bonjour, J'essaye de bricoler un antiword pour le docx #!/bin/sh \rm -f /tmp/word/document.xml unzip -d /tmp $1 word/document.xml xmllint --encode UTF8 --html --htmlout /tmp/word/document.xml 2 /dev/null /tmp/word/document.html dillo /tmp/word/document.html -- Mais cela ne me donne pas totale satisfaction... Apparemment, il n'y a pas moyen de tuber xmllint pour éviter d'écrire sur le système de fichier dans /tmp. D'autre part quand j'affiche a l'écran il y a des balises html qui restent et des caractères mal affichés.| J'aurais voulu jouer avec un truc du genre : unzip $1 word/document.xml | xmllint --encode UTF8 --html --htmlout 2 /dev/null | html2text -style pretty Mais bon, si ça va pas c'est pas grave, je m'amuse là... A bientôt -- Benoît
Re: Temps d'exécution d'un commande dans un script
Le Samedi 24 Mai 2014 16:23 CEST, Benoit B benoit...@gmail.com a écrit: Bonjour, J'utilise openbox et fbpanel. Ce dernier met beaucoup de temps a se lancer sur mon vieux portable. Existe-t-il un moyen de savoir quelle est la commande dans mon autostart.sh qui prend le plus de temps et ressource ? Du genre encadrer chaque commande par quelque chose qui log le temps qu'il prend et la charge qu'il cause ? /bin/time devrait faire ça. À utiliser pour chaque commande dont on veut connaître la durée. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/92b-5380b080-7-da835d0@80370300
Re: Temps d'exécution d'un commande dans un script
Bonjour,
Le 24/05/2014 16:23, Benoit B a écrit :
Existe-t-il un moyen de savoir quelle est la commande dans mon autostart.sh
qui prend le plus de temps et ressource ? Du genre encadrer chaque commande
par quelque chose qui log le temps qu'il prend et la charge qu'il cause ?
Tu peux toujours parsemer ton script de la commande
logger qui écrira dans le syslog de ta Debian (ou
bien écrire une fonction wrapper) éventuellement.
Par exemple :
--
script_name=${0##*/}
[...]
logger -t $script_name Foo is runnig...
[...]
logger -t $script_name Foo is finished.
--
Ce qui écrira dans ton syslog un truc du genre :
May 24 16:30:13 flpc autostart.sh: Foo is runnig...
May 24 16:35:56 flpc autostart.sh: Foo is is finished.
À+
--
François Lafont
--
Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :
http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists
Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe
vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org
En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380b2dc.1010...@free.fr
Pas de son Capabilities: access denied
Bonsoir à toute la mailing list, Je suis actuellement sur une Debian Wheezy fraîchement installé et je rencontre un problème de son. le compte et bien dans le groupe audio et il n'est pas muet : $ groups $USER cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev la sortie de lspci -v donne ceci : 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 0e) Subsystem: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: access denied 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL PCI Express Root Port (rev 0e) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: e000-efff Memory behind bridge: cdf0-cfff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d000-dfff Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: pcieport 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 813d Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44 Memory at cddf4000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff Memory behind bridge: 4020-403f Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 4040-405f Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: pcieport 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: c000-cfff Memory behind bridge: cde0-cdef Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 4000-401f Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: pcieport 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P5GD1-VW Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 I/O ports at 8000 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P5GD1-VW Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 I/O ports at 8400 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P5GD1-VW Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 I/O ports at 8800 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P5GD1-VW Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 I/O ports at 9000 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P5GD1-VW Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at cddff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: b000-bfff Capabilities: access denied 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P5GD1-VW Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8] I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1] I/O ports at 0170 [size=8] I/O ports at 0374 [size=1] I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16] Kernel driver in use: ata_piix 00:1f.2
Re: Pas de son Capabilities: access denied
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:18:19 +0200 Yan THIERY mov...@mailoo.org wrote: Je suis actuellement sur une Debian Wheezy fraîchement installé et je rencontre un problème de son. Lequel _exactement_? (avec les msg d'erreur) Avec QUEL système audio (OSS, ALSA, PULSE)? QUEL pgm|daemon|whatever renvoie ces erreurs? le compte et bien dans le groupe audio et il n'est pas muet : $ groups $USER cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev Est-ce que l'utilisateur en question s'est bien délogé/relogé afin que les groupes soient correctement pris en compte? -- [7h du mat] MOI Salut les gars, pas trop matinal A C'est mon boulot qu'y m'impose ces heures A dans une heure je prend l'avion MOI j'arrive jamais a dormir dans les avions, j’espère que t'y arriveras :) A si je m'endort, y'a 150 morts. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524182504.65585565@anubis.defcon1
Re: Pas de son Capabilities: access denied
Le samedi 24 mai 2014 18:25:04, Bzzz a écrit : On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:18:19 +0200 Bonsoir Bzzz Lequel _exactement_? (avec les msg d'erreur) Avec QUEL système audio (OSS, ALSA, PULSE)? QUEL pgm|daemon|whatever renvoie ces erreurs? Je n'est pas eu de message d'erreur, si ce n'est Capabilities: access denied affiché a la sortie de lspci -v que j'ai lancé après avoir retirer la sourdine sur les sorties audio et constater qu'il n'y avait pas de son. Est-ce que l'utilisateur en question s'est bien délogé/relogé afin que les groupes soient correctement pris en compte? Il a été automatiquement ajouté au groupe à l'installation et les déconnexions et re-connexions on bien eu lieu. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405241855.20768.mov...@mailoo.org
Re: [Terminé] Pas de son Capabilities: access denied
Bon est bien le problème c'est réglé de lui-même Merci pour votre aide :) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405241942.42163.mov...@mailoo.org
Re: [Terminé] Pas de son Capabilities: access denied
On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:42:41 +0200 Yan THIERY mov...@mailoo.org wrote: Bon est bien le problème c'est réglé de lui-même Merci pour votre aide :) À part pour les gouvernements, les problèmes ne se règlent jamais par l'opération du saint-esprit; en conséquence, un retour d'information (fasse-t-il mal aux fesses) serait la bienvenue… -- Il vaut mieux gâcher sa jeunesse que n'en rien faire du tout. -- Georges Courteline -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524194539.3b34265a@anubis.defcon1
Re: [Terminé] Pas de son Capabilities: access denied
Le samedi 24 mai 2014 19:45:39, Bzzz a écrit : On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:42:41 +0200 Yan THIERY mov...@mailoo.org wrote: Bon est bien le problème c'est réglé de lui-même Merci pour votre aide :) À part pour les gouvernements, les problèmes ne se règlent jamais par l'opération du saint-esprit; en conséquence, un retour d'information (fasse-t-il mal aux fesses) serait la bienvenue… Je suis d'accord avec toi d'ailleurs le ridicule ne tue pas dit on. Mais la je n'est aucune idée de la raison qui a permis de faire fonctionner le son. Pendant le cours de la discution j'ai juste installé le paquet pulseaudio- module-X11 et je l'est retiré après n'avoir observé aucun changement, par la même occasion j'ai installer Amarok et après un second reboot du PC et le son c'est mis en marche... je vais être comme un c** si le même problème ce représente -- car je ne sait toujours pas d'où cela a put venir. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405242129.50665.mov...@mailoo.org
Re: [Terminé] Pas de son Capabilities: access denied
On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:29:50 +0200 Yan THIERY mov...@mailoo.org wrote: Pendant le cours de la discution j'ai juste installé le paquet pulseaudio- module-X11 et je l'est retiré après n'avoir observé aucun changement, par la même occasion j'ai installer Amarok et après un second reboot du PC et le son c'est mis en marche... je Donc, c'est apparemment un changement qui n'a été pris en compte que lors d'un reboot (en Gal évitable par redémarrage des services concernés). -- Ne buvez pas d'alcool au volant, vous pourriez en renverser! -- Coluche -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524213640.2ac41a11@anubis.defcon1
Re: Un équivalent du PAO autocad, mais Libre
Slt, Blender ... Ptilou Le samedi 10 mai 2014 21:10:01 UTC+1, andre_...@numericable.fr a écrit : Bonsoir à tous, Je recherche un équivalent du PAO autocad (proprio), mais Libre, capable de faire de la 3D. Cerise sur le gâteau, pouvant tourner sous Mac et/ou Windows, sinon tant pis si c'est que sous Linux. Merci d'avance. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/658e85f8-31e8-42a8-8119-afc920b93...@googlegroups.com
Re: Convertidor de audio y video para Debian 7
El Fri, 23 May 2014 15:59:47 -0400, luis escribió: Estaba viendo un convertidor de video de audio y video en distintos formatos, este el Format Junkie para Ubuntu. Algo similar el Format Factory de Windows. Alguno que me recomienden para Debian 7 a 64 bit?? Hay que distinguir entre formato (códecs, más bien) y contenedor. Un archivo AVI es un contenedor mientras que el h.264 es un códec. En cuanto a la pregunta, si el Format Junkies ese está disponible para Ubuntu ¿por qué no instalarlo en Debian? Seguramente haya un deb que puedas descargar sin muchos problemas. Para convertir entre distintos códecs/contenedores de AV tienes libav- tools (fork de ffmpeg) que es línea de comandos y después tienes varias GUI que tiran de éste como winff o transmageddon (usa gstreamer). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.05.24.15.56...@gmail.com
Servidor FTP (vsftpd) y enlaces simbólicos
Hola, listeros: Antes de nada, quiero aclarar que este no es el típico problema de tener enjaulado el servidor FTP y un directorio que apunta fuera de la jaula. Mi problema es el siguiente: Tengo un servidor FTP enjaulado al que se suben de vez en cuando archivos. Estos archivos semanalmente son movidos por un script a un almacen y en su lugar se deja un enlace simbólico con ruta absoluta. Como el servidor FTP está enjaulado, la raíz del sistema no coincide con la suya, por lo que a ojos del servidor FTP el enlace simbólico no enlaza con un archivo existente. Como los ficheros se descargan por web, no hay ningún problema en las descargas. El problema surge cuando se quiere actualizar un fichero existente. He comprobado que el servidor FTP no se comporta como los comandos cp o mv de linux. Con estos comandos, si se sobreescribe un enlace simbólico con un fichero regular, desaparece el enlace simbólico y su lugar lo ocupa el nuevo fichero. En cambio, cuando se sobreescribe un fichero, el FTP no hace esto, lo que hace es seguir la ruta del enlace simbólico y sustituir el fichero apuntado. Y ese es el problema: como el fichero apuntado no existe, se produce un error y la subida del fichero falla. Si primero se borra el fichero del servidor (enlace simbólico) y luego se sube la nueva versión del fichero, no hay problema. He brujuleado por internet pero sin éxito y sospecho que el problema es irresoluble[1], pero por si acaso lo pregunto: ¿hay algún modo de hacer que al subir un fichero, vsftpd sustitutuya el enlace simbólico, en vez de seguir la ruta y cambiar el fichero enlazado? [1] Alguno podrá argumentar que puedo usar rutas relativas en los enlaces. El problema de eso es que entonces si un usuario decide reorganizar un poco los ficheros del servidor, creando subdirectorios y metiendo dentro de él ficheros, los enlaces simbólicos se romperán. Gracias de antemano. -- Parezco en mi fortuna al Manzanares, que con agua o sin ella siempre es río. --- Tomé de Burguillos --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524160053.ga6...@cubo.casa
Re: Servidor FTP (vsftpd) y enlaces simbólicos
El Sat, 24 May 2014 18:00:53 +0200, José Miguel (sio2) escribió: Antes de nada, quiero aclarar que este no es el típico problema de tener enjaulado el servidor FTP y un directorio que apunta fuera de la jaula. Hum... excusatio non petita... :-) Mi problema es el siguiente: Tengo un servidor FTP enjaulado al que se suben de vez en cuando archivos. Estos archivos semanalmente son movidos por un script a un almacen y en su lugar se deja un enlace simbólico con ruta absoluta. Como el servidor FTP está enjaulado, la raíz del sistema no coincide con la suya, por lo que a ojos del servidor FTP el enlace simbólico no enlaza con un archivo existente. Como los ficheros se descargan por web, no hay ningún problema en las descargas. Preguntonta... ¿por qué no trabajas con enlaces duros en lugar de dejar punteros a rutas que están fuera del alcance del servidor ftp? Se te lleva más espacio en disco pero puedes verlo como una copia de seguridad. El problema surge cuando se quiere actualizar un fichero existente. He comprobado que el servidor FTP no se comporta como los comandos cp o mv de linux. Con estos comandos, si se sobreescribe un enlace simbólico con un fichero regular, desaparece el enlace simbólico y su lugar lo ocupa el nuevo fichero. En cambio, cuando se sobreescribe un fichero, el FTP no hace esto, lo que hace es seguir la ruta del enlace simbólico y sustituir el fichero apuntado. Y ese es el problema: como el fichero apuntado no existe, se produce un error y la subida del fichero falla. Si primero se borra el fichero del servidor (enlace simbólico) y luego se sube la nueva versión del fichero, no hay problema. Tal y como lo interpreto, no es que no exista el archivo, es que el servidor ftp no tiene acceso por estar enjaulado. He brujuleado por internet pero sin éxito y sospecho que el problema es irresoluble[1], pero por si acaso lo pregunto: ¿hay algún modo de hacer que al subir un fichero, vsftpd sustitutuya el enlace simbólico, en vez de seguir la ruta y cambiar el fichero enlazado? (...) Usando enlaces duros o permitiendo el flujo convencional de acceso a los enlaces simbólicos a través de montajes con --bind. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.05.24.16.25...@gmail.com
Re: Servidor FTP (vsftpd) y enlaces simbólicos
El Sat, 24 de May de 2014, a las 04:25:42PM +, Camaleón dijo: Antes de nada, quiero aclarar que este no es el típico problema de tener enjaulado el servidor FTP y un directorio que apunta fuera de la jaula. Hum... excusatio non petita... :-) Bueno, porsiaca... La verdad es que al intentar averiguar esto, me saltaba siempre la misma explicación del mount -o bind, etc... Preguntonta... ¿por qué no trabajas con enlaces duros en lugar de dejar punteros a rutas que están fuera del alcance del servidor ftp? Se te lleva más espacio en disco pero puedes verlo como una copia de seguridad. También se me ocurrió eso (porque el almacen está en el mismo sistema de ficheros), pero no me convence del todo porque dificulta la limpieza. A veces alguno se dedica a meter ahí imágenes de máquinas virtuales, o hasta software pirata (aunque esté terminantemente prohibido). Cuando toca limpieza, si se usan enlaces simbólicos sé que me basta con brujulear en el Almacen, si se usan enlaces duros, no. Tal y como lo interpreto, no es que no exista el archivo, es que el servidor ftp no tiene acceso por estar enjaulado. No, también se tiene acceso al fichero enlazado, el problema como he dicho es el cambio en la raíz. Lo explico con un ejemplo. Imagina esta situación muy simple: /srv/ftp/Almacen/fichero.txt /srv/ftp/Curso2013-2014/fichero.txt - /srv/ftp/Almacen/fichero.txt Los usuarios están enjaulados bajo /srv/ftp (o sea, / para el FTP es /srv/ftp para el sistema); así que, aunque se tiene acceso al directorio Almacen, el enlace simbólico a /srv/ftp/Almacen/fichero.txt no funciona. No lo he probado, la verdad, pero supongo que /Almacen/fichero.txt sí que funcionaría dentro del ftp (aunque no en el sistema). He brujuleado por internet pero sin éxito y sospecho que el problema es irresoluble[1], pero por si acaso lo pregunto: ¿hay algún modo de hacer que al subir un fichero, vsftpd sustitutuya el enlace simbólico, en vez de seguir la ruta y cambiar el fichero enlazado? Usando enlaces duros o permitiendo el flujo convencional de acceso a los enlaces simbólicos a través de montajes con --bind. Lo primero ya te he dicho por qué no me convence. Lo segundo no funciona, y la tercera solución (enlaces con ruta relativa) también tiene su pega. Lo suyo es que hubiera forma de decirle al FTP que no siguiera los enlaces simbólicos, sino que los machacara; pero no he dado con la forma; quizás, porque, simplemente, no se puede. Gracias. -- e non l'arbitrio de femina lieve, che sempre inchina a quel che men far deve. --- Ludovico Ariosto --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524172153.ga7...@cubo.casa
Re: Servidor FTP (vsftpd) y enlaces simbólicos
El Sat, 24 May 2014 19:21:53 +0200, José Miguel (sio2) escribió: El Sat, 24 de May de 2014, a las 04:25:42PM +, Camaleón dijo: (...) Tal y como lo interpreto, no es que no exista el archivo, es que el servidor ftp no tiene acceso por estar enjaulado. No, también se tiene acceso al fichero enlazado, el problema como he dicho es el cambio en la raíz. Lo explico con un ejemplo. Imagina esta situación muy simple: /srv/ftp/Almacen/fichero.txt /srv/ftp/Curso2013-2014/fichero.txt - /srv/ftp/Almacen/fichero.txt Los usuarios están enjaulados bajo /srv/ftp (o sea, / para el FTP es /srv/ftp para el sistema); así que, aunque se tiene acceso al directorio Almacen, el enlace simbólico a /srv/ftp/Almacen/fichero.txt no funciona. No lo he probado, la verdad, pero supongo que /Almacen/fichero.txt sí que funcionaría dentro del ftp (aunque no en el sistema). Aum... entonces no es como pensaba. Según el ejemplo simplificado que pones, entiendo que los enlaces simbólicos están dentro de la jaula y por tanto, accesibles de cara al servidor ftp. Pero dices que vsftpd no puede acceder a /srv/ftp/Curso2013-2014/fichero.txt, que da error... ¿correcto? Si es así, interesaría saber: 1/ El error que te registra el servidor ftp cuando se intenta acceder al recurso que apunta al enlace simbólico 2/ El error que te aparece en el cliente 3/ El tipo de cliente que usas para acceder a ese recurso (aplicación dedicada ftp, navegador web...) (...) Usando enlaces duros o permitiendo el flujo convencional de acceso a los enlaces simbólicos a través de montajes con --bind. Lo primero ya te he dicho por qué no me convence. Lo segundo no funciona, y la tercera solución (enlaces con ruta relativa) también tiene su pega. Lo suyo es que hubiera forma de decirle al FTP que no siguiera los enlaces simbólicos, sino que los machacara; pero no he dado con la forma; quizás, porque, simplemente, no se puede. Tendría que revisar con detenimiento el RFC del protocolo FTP (más concretamente el #3659¹) pero en principio, que el servidor ftp no siga los enlaces simbólicos que están dentro de su ámbito no me parece normal salvo que el sistema de archivos (es decir, los permisos de usuarios en esos directorios) lo impida. ¹http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3659 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.05.24.17.46...@gmail.com
Re: Servidor FTP (vsftpd) y enlaces simbólicos
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 04:25:42PM +, Camaleón wrote: Preguntonta... ¿por qué no trabajas con enlaces duros en lugar de dejar punteros a rutas que están fuera del alcance del servidor ftp? Se te lleva más espacio en disco pero puedes verlo como una copia de seguridad. Los enlaces duros, cuando se pueden hacer, *no* ocupan más que los enlaces simbólicos. # cd /boot # ls -l initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 -rw-r--r-- 5 root root 11994354 may 13 07:57 initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 # mkdir a # ln initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 a/1 # ln initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 a/2 # ln initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 a/3 # ln initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 a/4 # du a 11720 a Precisamente por ser enlaces duros, solamente se guarda una copia de entre todos los que estén enlazados entre sí, forma parte de la gracia. Es posible incluso que ocupen menos que si fueran enlaces simbólicos, ya que al referirse al mismo nodo-i, no gastan ni siquiera el mínimo de 4K que suele gastar cada nodo-i. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524215838.ga10...@cantor.unex.es
Problemas mayores con el asunto del servidor
Hola a la lista. Escribo algo realmente tarde (son las 12:05 am, hora de Venezuela), para decir que, por ahora, el proyecto del servidor casero ha encontrado una piedra de tranca voluminosa... Luego de pasar la mitad del sábado intentando que se instalar bien el Debian (e incluso, cambiando 4 discos duros), pude hacer que corriera uno de ellos; pero, a la hora de instalar, me salía un error atípico: Reboot and Select proper boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key. Batallé bastante para que pudiese leer el disco duro, lo analicé con algunas herramientas que posee el Hiren's Boot CD, instalé todo lo mejor posible, hice mucho tiempo de espera, pero nada parece funcionar. ¡Es como si se engullera al grub! Y no se me ocurre nada de qué puede estar pasando... necesito que me iluminen en algo, si no es mucha molestia... -- Buen uso de las listas (como se ven en Debian): http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista Ayuda para hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://is.gd/NJIwRz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CALEvJmQK4UqdHAR317sg1ai1k5t6=zvyxwk344odviqrx6z...@mail.gmail.com
java +chrome
Olá, baixei o java e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver este problema? -- Manoel
Re: java +chrome
Esse link aí ta meio esquisito. Não teria que ser ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so /opt/google/chrome/plugins ? Em 24 de maio de 2014 16:29, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.comescreveu: Olá, baixei o java e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver este problema? -- Manoel -- Atenciosamente, *Alexandre Martins* *LPIC-1 | CompTIA Linux + | SUSE CLA* *Monkeys IT Solutions* *32 8824 6438*
Re: java +chrome
On 24-05-2014 16:29, Manoel Pedro de Araújo wrote: Olá, baixei o java e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue |mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so | | Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver este problema? | Saudações Manoel, Aparentemente a sua instalação está correta, confira em http://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml Contudo, eu acredito que o seu problema seja a versão do Chrome. Aparti da versão 35 o suporte a Netscape Plug-in API (NPAPI) foi completamente descontinuado. Veja mais em: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/T0bGgI3KgOI https://productforums.google.com/forum/#%21topic/chrome/T0bGgI3KgOI http://www.chromium.org/developers/npapi-deprecation Com a descontinuação do NPAPI, muitos plugins deixaram de funcionar! Fica bem, ___ Francisco C Soares ( *Junior* ) 403790c89847cdbe5a262146de8fb93139c4 BLOG dotjunior.blogspot.com http://dotjunior.blogspot.com/
Whatsapp no debian
Alguem sabe se é possivel instalar o whatsapp no debian? -- Manoel
Re: Whatsapp no debian
Eu consegui da seguinte forma, instalei um emulador de android no debian, registrei minha conta google e instalei o whatsapp. É necessário que você tenho um chip extra para usá-lo como contato! Em 24 de maio de 2014 16:35, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.comescreveu: Alguem sabe se é possivel instalar o whatsapp no debian? -- Manoel -- Atenciosamente, *Alexandre Martins* *LPIC-1 | CompTIA Linux + | SUSE CLA* *Monkeys IT Solutions* *32 8824 6438*
Re: java +chrome
No conteiner de plugins do firefox o chrome reconhece .
meu script de adicionar e remover
#!/bin/bash
javapluginn=/arquivos/00_Repositorios/00_APPS_/jre1.7.0_17/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
remove-java() {
sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so /dev/null
echo ln -ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
ls -la /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
echo Java Disabled
}
enable-java() {
sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so /dev/null
cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
sudo ln -s $javapluginn
echo ln -ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
ls -la /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
echo Java Enabled
}
case $1 in
remove ) remove-java ;;
add) enable-java ;;
*) echo Usar remove ou add ;;
esac
Em 24-05-2014 16:29, Manoel Pedro de Araújo escreveu:
Olá, baixei o java e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv
jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida
criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue
|mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins
cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins
ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
|
|Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver este
problema?
|
--
Manoel
Re: Whatsapp no debian
On 24-05-2014 16:35, Manoel Pedro de Araújo wrote: Alguem sabe se é possivel instalar o whatsapp no debian? É possível usar o Pidgin para se comunicar com o Whatsapp... Veja em http://codemink.com/install-whatsapp-on-linux-operating-system/ Fica bem, ___ Francisco C Soares ( *Junior* ) 403790c89847cdbe5a262146de8fb93139c4 BLOG dotjunior.blogspot.com http://dotjunior.blogspot.com/
Re: Whatsapp no debian
Ola. Ha este excelente tutorial de como usar pidgin + plugin do zap-zap: http://bit.ly/1tzchcF Eh dessa maneira q eu utilizo, ha limitacoes, mas quebra um galhao. Abracos. Em 24 de maio de 2014 16:35, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.comescreveu: Alguem sabe se é possivel instalar o whatsapp no debian? -- Manoel -- Atenciosamente, Rubens S. O. Jr
Re: Whatsapp no debian
https://github.com/tgalal/yowsup Tem esse aí também. Tem até tutorial no VOL pra integrar com nagios. On 24 de maio de 2014 14h35min46s GMT-05:00, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com wrote: Alguem sabe se é possivel instalar o whatsapp no debian? -- Manoel -- Geowany Galdino Assistente em Tecnologia da Informação/Núcleo de Tecnologia da Informação Graduando/Curso de Licenciatura em História Universidade Federal do Acre http://www.ufac.br
Re: java +chrome
Olá. Debian possui um comando de configuração em algum lugar prá se escolher o java-default que usará. A disposição aqui está assim: Java descompactado fica em /opt/java/64/jre1./ No diretório /usr/lib/jvm fica um link para lá ln -s /opt/java/64/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./ E mais um outro link para a jvm default ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/default-java E de acordo com www.java.com/pt_BR/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Instalando-o-plugin-Java-6.20-no-Google-Chrome mais estes comandos; mkdir -p /opt/google/chrome/plugins/ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so Em Sat, 24 May 2014 16:29:21 -0300 Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá, baixei o java e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver este problema? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/536425.1680...@smtp105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 00:54:07 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: Darac Marjal wrote: For exim, http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/ suggests to set the smarthost to mail.messagingengine.com::587 (when using debconf) and to add a new routing driver. Probably easiest to just read that page for the information you require, replacing smtp.gmail.com with mail.messagingengine.com as appropriate. No new routing driver requires adding with either gmail or fastmail. gmail also accepts authenticated mail on port 25 whereas fastmail refuses connections on that port. Sorry Brian, but even with really good hints I've managed to be confused about something here. Are you saying above that none of the editing recommended in above cited URL: http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/ is really needed? Just follow the edits you mention? The single thing you you need to learn from that page is that you want to use mail.messagingengine.com::587 for the smarthost. Do NOT use port 465 and IGNORE everything else, including mentions of routing drivers, otherwise you will end up in a mess. The edits I advise are all that is needed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524090930.gj17...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 01:29:04 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple now. It should be after what follows::) In update-exim4.conf.conf change 'satellite' to 'internet'. There is a crucial addition to make to dc_smarthost. mail.messagingengine.com::587 There is no mention of satellite or internet in the file you cited above. Perhaps you mean exim4.conf.template? Please read what you wrote in https://lists.debian.org/8761l18n1d@newsguy.com Make the two edits to update-exim4.conf.conf, save and do service exim4 restart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/24052014101727.582b78c08...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 17:51:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 01:29:04AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple now. It should be after what follows::) In update-exim4.conf.conf change 'satellite' to 'internet'. There is a crucial addition to make to dc_smarthost. mail.messagingengine.com::587 There is no mention of satellite or internet in the file you cited above. Perhaps you mean exim4.conf.template? Maybe that should be when you do: # dpkg-reconfigure update-exim4.conf.conf Definitely not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524092039.gk17...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Grub2 missed Microsoft Windows 8.1 during Debian install
Greetings, Grub2 missed Microsoft Windows 8.1 on the internal hard disk during the install of Debian 7.1 to an external hard disk. It failed to detect another operating system in the mbr and was primed to over write it. A trap waiting to be sprung. This was on a Toshiba C50D-A with the UEFI settings all disabled and so on in the Bios so it would boot non UEFI media. Does that properly. The install worked well and Debian booted and worked well except for cosmetic screen effects when it changes environments. All AMD processor et al chips, no Intel or NVidia. No tweaks or additional action to get Debian going. The external hard disk is a USB3 unit connected to the notebook's USB3 port. Seat of the pants impression of overall performance doing web browsing and word processing is no noticeable waits. USB handling has improved. Cheers. frank.jan...@actrix.gen.nz, ZL2TTS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380636a.2060...@actrix.gen.nz
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
On Vi, 23 mai 14, 20:05:57, Tony Baldwin wrote: I found that /etc/apache2/php5.ini had session.save_path set to /tmp. I rent a server from contabo, where this line is commented out, so I commented it out here on the little home server. No more sess files are being written to /tmp. I'm trying to figure out why this variable was different on the two servers, and why I would ever have changed it on either one (I do not recall doing so). I can't help but wonder if a recent update in something...but updates shouldn't edit my config files without asking me about that first, right? Only when they are marked as conffiles (not a typo, this is the internal dpkg designation) and you changed them. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?
On 2014-05-23, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote: While you are correct, the sentence structure leads one to expect 'box' as a verb and 'ethernets' as a noun. Speaking as another native speaker, it took me two passes to read what was intended there. Speaking as a disgruntled and often restless native, linguistic confusion is my norm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlo0qsl.2n0.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: friends laptop, no mic found
On 2014-05-24, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:13:17AM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote: I always thought this mail list stripped attachments. I now know ... that it depends on their size? At what kbyte threshold do they strip off all your attachments and leave your article naked? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlo0r6t.2n0.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures
On 2014-05-23, Wim Bertels wim.bert...@khleuven.be wrote: Hallo, does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a presentation (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that) Okular with latex-beamer, which probably doesn't satisfy the easy as pie stipulation, but what the heck, it's Saturday. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlo0rte.2n0.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Mike McGinn mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net writes: Comments below On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:52:43 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: csanyi...@gmail.com writes: So I tried with this setup: iface eth0 inet static address 217.17.111.173 netmask 255.255.255.0 but it doesn't work. I built a gateway / router / vpn / firewall at work using Debian Squeeze. The first thing I noticed is that you did not define a gateway for eth0. That could be your problem. This is normally defined for you by the dhcp server, so you would have not needed it before, but you probably need it now. Yes, I thought as much, but don't know which IP address to add as a default gateway in my case? The command should look like this: # route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 ??? but what IP address should I add into this command? -- Regards, from Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87mwe7scj2@gmail.com
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:21:05 +0200
csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I thought as much, but don't know which IP address to add as a
default gateway in my case?
The command should look like this:
# route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
???
but what IP address should I add into this command?
As others wrote you, you need a default gateway.
A static route for 10.0.0.0/8 network won't do you any good as your
home router is unable to communicate with the outside world.
Assuming that your 217.17.111.173/24 address on eth0 is correct, you
probably need to set up default gateway as 217.17.111.1 (and you really
should check it with your ISP, they are the only ones who know this).
So, forget this 'route' stuff, just add 'gateway 217.17.111.1' to
your /etc/network/interfaces, bounce eth0, see how it goes.
Given you're using C-class network, you have just 255 possible values
for the default gateway :)
Reco
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/2014052412.9ed79f03bf130a85a50a8...@gmail.com
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote: So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes. Except that if they're in the 'normal' place (/var/lib/php5), there's probably a cronjob (/etc/cron.d/php5) to clean up the stale ones. Richard Richard, No, this is not the normal place. These are considered temporary files, and if there is no entry in the php.ini files, they go into the system temporary directory (which *generally* is /tmp, but that's why I asked). And no, there is no cron job to clean up old session files. After they have expired, they are eligible for cleanup, but this will not occur until PHP's session cleanup code runs (which is dependent on settings in the php.ini file). Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53807cc9.1020...@attglobal.net
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
On 24/05/14 12:04, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp
doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes.
Except that if they're in the 'normal' place (/var/lib/php5), there's
probably a cronjob (/etc/cron.d/php5) to clean up the stale ones.
Richard
Richard,
No, this is not the normal place. These are considered temporary
files, and if there is no entry in the php.ini files, they go into the
system temporary directory (which *generally* is /tmp, but that's why I
asked).
And no, there is no cron job to clean up old session files. After they
have expired, they are eligible for cleanup, but this will not occur
until PHP's session cleanup code runs (which is dependent on settings in
the php.ini file).
Hmm, I see this in my syslog every hour:
May 24 12:09:01 vanderhoff /USR/SBIN/CRON[24431]: (root) CMD ( [ -x
/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] find
/var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f
-ignore_readdir_race -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) ! -execdir
fuser -s {} 2/dev/null \; -delete)
I don't pretend to understand it in detail, but I always assumed that
this was cleaning up stale session files. Therefore the 'normal' place
*is* /var/lib/php5/.
Cheers, Tony
--
Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org
Buckinghamshire, England |
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/538080aa.5060...@vanderhoff.org
Re: Iceweasel and DRM
On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 17:33 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Please continue on d-community-offtopic. True, but I have to clarify something, see below. On 5/23/14, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2014 22:31:18 -0400 Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: ... Copyright violations are rampant on the web. Thank you for refraining from calling that piracy. OK, since you insist, I'll call it what it is - piracy. I didn't think you were _such_ a contrarian. Proved me wrong. I'm not. What you describe is piracy. You're also firmly aligned with copyright industry rhetoric. Oh well, I seriously thought you were above that... Unlike you, I am not above the law. And I have created intellectual property in the past which is copyrighted (unlike you, obviously). And I protect my copyrights. Don't bother arguing with these idiots Jerry. I'll bet you dollars to donuts they never took the time to write, edit, format, produce, and market a 100K word book to help them feed their children. They probably have salary jobs, and if they get laid off, they get unemployment. Here's the thing Jerry: With all their yelling, I never once heard any of these 150 decibel anti-DRM clowns promise not to give or sell a copy of an author's work to someone else. I'm not talking about right of first sale, which I assume they know nothing about, I'm talking about buying (or grabbing from a torrent) a copy of somebody's work, keeping it, but making copies of it and giving the copies to others. After all, according to them, once they bought it, they can do anything they want with it, right? It's not their problem that Article 1, section 8, paragraph 8 of the US Constitution provides authors and inventors a limited time exclusive right to the author's or inventor's writings and discoveries. It's not their problem that copyright was a part of English law long before the US constitution was written. It's not their problem that copyright is part of the Berne convention, accepted and enforced by most modern nations. It's not these clowns' problem if someone spent between 3 and 18 months writing a book, in hope of feeding their children. It's not their problem if the author must compete with cheap or zero cost exact copies of the work he spent so long making, because the clowns are distributing copies like the autumn leaves. It's not their problem if the author's children don't eat. The clowns got theirs. It's kind of ironic, isn't it? If they don't like DRM (and who does?), they should blame those who unauthorizedly distribute (or possess unauthorized distributions). DRM was made to prevent these activities, due to high number of freeloaders wanting authors to write for free. If they don't like DMCA (and who does?), blame the unauthorized distributors. If they don't like the obscene life+70 copyright periods of many nations including the US, blame the unauthorized distributors, who ceded the moral high ground to Disney and Sonny Bono and that crowd by snatching money right out of authors' pocketbooks. Jerry, if the clowns who have been arguing with you had a single testicle between them, they'd do with Stallman does: Simply promise never to buy, procure, nor distribute, nonfree content. Stallman *never* makes unauthorized copies of nonfree content. But that's not their style: they whine about buying a book and then not being able to give copies to others: or at least they never forswore making copies and distributing to others. The sad thing is, Jerry, although I hate the fact that the US law provides for a judgment of $150K *per unauthorizedly obtained work* against those who unauthorizedly copy, or receive such copies, the arrogant disregard of stealing other peoples' opportunity to make money, and their pride in not knowing the law, make me hope it happens to them. They're clowns Jerry: ignore them. SteveT Steve Litt Author: Troubleshooting: Tools, Tips and Techniques Author: Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Author: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Author: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business Author: Rapid Learning For the 21st Century Author: Thriving in Tough Times Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence Author: Rules of the Happiness Highway All but the first two written and produced using Free Software Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many times in my live, without the need of idiotic copy protections. If the people who like your work don't like to pay you, consider for what people you're making your work. Is the target group for your work that anti-social or your work not worth to spend money for it? Consider to make better work for a better target group, then you don't need copy protection anymore. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
Re: Iceweasel and DRM
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many times in my live, without the need of idiotic copy protections. If the people who like your work don't like to pay you, consider for what people you're making your work. Is the target group for your work that anti-social or your work not worth to spend money for it? Consider to make better work for a better target group, then you don't need copy protection anymore. PS: A pirate copy, shared cracked software could be good promotion. If somebody really don't has got the money to pay you, why not sharing the work for free? Others who have the money, get aware by pirate copies, shared cracked software of your good work, use/test it and then pay for for a legal version, or they at least buy other work from you, if they have got the money. Again, it belongs to the target group. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400933271.848.14.camel@archlinux
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
I wrote: Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. Chris Bannister writes: It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) How is that easier? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8738fzs6d1@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Iceweasel and DRM
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many times in my live, without the need of idiotic copy protections. If the people who like your work don't like to pay you, consider for what people you're making your work. Is the target group for your work that anti-social or your work not worth to spend money for it? Consider to make better work for a better target group, then you don't need copy protection anymore. PS: A pirate copy, shared cracked software could be good promotion. If somebody really don't has got the money to pay you, why not sharing the work for free? Others who have the money, get aware by pirate copies, shared cracked software of your good work, use/test it and then pay for for a legal version, or they at least buy other work from you, if they have got the money. Again, it belongs to the target group. PPS: I reflected my opinion. We should find a perfect copy protection, get rid of money and than start barter trade. I made barter trade without money relatively often in my life. I bet a lot of people with intellectual work that is perfectly protected, that can't be copied, wont find somebody willing to trade off bread and butter for this intellectual work. A lot of people only can survive, get too much money for their piss, because they made the rules. We've got money and unfortunately some intellectual work is more pricey than something e.g. to eat, while both should have got the same price (I don't claim that intellectual work is less important). Let's get rid of money and start barter trade, this is also a good way to support good intellectual work and to get rid of all the intellectual piss. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400935744.18487.12.camel@archlinux
Re: Iceweasel and DRM
On 05/24/2014 08:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many snip PS: A pirate copy, shared cracked software could be good promotion. If snip PPS: I reflected my opinion. We should find a perfect copy protection, snip and to get rid of all the intellectual piss. lulz intellectual piss Try a different translator, Ralf. -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people. - Thomas Hooker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/538096af.6030...@charter.net
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:21:05 +0200
csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I thought as much, but don't know which IP address to add as a
default gateway in my case?
The command should look like this:
# route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
???
but what IP address should I add into this command?
As others wrote you, you need a default gateway.
A static route for 10.0.0.0/8 network won't do you any good as your
home router is unable to communicate with the outside world.
Assuming that your 217.17.111.173/24 address on eth0 is correct, you
probably need to set up default gateway as 217.17.111.1 (and you really
should check it with your ISP, they are the only ones who know this).
I just mail to my ISP and admins will help me but only on monday. :(
So, forget this 'route' stuff, just add 'gateway 217.17.111.1' to
your /etc/network/interfaces, bounce eth0, see how it goes.
Well, I just tried that, but without success.
/etc/network/interfaces
---
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 217.17.111.173
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 217.17.111.1
# ifdown eth0
# ifup eth0
$ ping 8.8.8.8
I get the following output:
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 217.17.111.173 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
Can I do anything to setup my home network or must to wait monday for
ISP's admins?
--
Regards, from Paul
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87fvjzs4ur@gmail.com
Re: Iceweasel and DRM
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 08:55 -0400, Jeff Bauer wrote: lulz intellectual piss Try a different translator, Ralf. I guess the context is good enough to understand, that I tried to say intellectual work that is not more helpful than a bottle of piss would be, when you want to barter this intellectual work (or piss) for a bread. There are uncountable illegal copies of Madonna's noise pollution, she still owns too much money, while other people die of hunger. I guess if there wouldn't be a lobby making rules, for how pricey useless shit should be, she would die of hunger, while a lot of people who die of hunger nowadays, could barter what they are able to provide, it at least might be enough to survive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400937529.1.11.camel@archlinux
Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Sat 24 May 2014 at 01:29:04 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple now. It should be after what follows::) In update-exim4.conf.conf change 'satellite' to 'internet'. There is a crucial addition to make to dc_smarthost. mail.messagingengine.com::587 There is no mention of satellite or internet in the file you cited above. Perhaps you mean exim4.conf.template? Please read what you wrote in https://lists.debian.org/8761l18n1d@newsguy.com Make the two edits to update-exim4.conf.conf, save and do service exim4 restart I just went ahead before your answers showed up, editing three things. password.client (adding my creds ) exim4.conf.template ( changed satellite to internet) update-exim4.conf.conf (dc_smarthost mail.messagingengine.com::587) And it worked... Finally I'll leave you alone. It is really hard to just break thru all the lingo and information in the exim man pages to arrive at 3 small edits to make it all work. Thank you sir for your time and patience. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/874n0fux40@newsguy.com
Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:37:35PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote: Hallo, does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a presentation (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that) eg ideally as simple as: $ programX -r media/ would show them in a random order where /media has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures Most of the picture viewers installed with a desktop environment will do this ie shotwell viewer, image viewr, ristretto, gthumb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524133350.GA22104@Jessie
Re: Iceweasel and DRM
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 08:55 -0400, Jeff Bauer wrote: intellectual piss Ok, it's not my native language and possibly it could be misinterpreted in a way, as advertisings give things human features, e.g. the engine oil that is able to think. However, even piss might be able to think more sophisticated, than some intellectual humans, at least the thinking motor oil seems to be very smart. The same people who advertised engine oil with the ability to think, are the lobby pro DRM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400938827.1.19.camel@archlinux
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
On 24/05/14 23:04, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote: So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes. Except that if they're in the 'normal' place (/var/lib/php5), there's probably a cronjob (/etc/cron.d/php5) to clean up the stale ones. Richard Richard, No, this is not the normal place. These are considered temporary files, and if there is no entry in the php.ini files, they go into the system temporary directory (which *generally* is /tmp, but that's why I asked). And no, there is no cron job to clean up old session files. After they have expired, they are eligible for cleanup, but this will not occur until PHP's session cleanup code runs (which is dependent on settings in the php.ini file). Well, my system has a cronjob that cleans up that directory, as above. I'm pretty sure it was set up by one of the Debian php packages. So presumably some sort of files get put there that need cleaning up. I could accept that perhaps upstream php doesn't use that directory, or even that the use of that directory might break the FHS, but it seems to be normal in the case of Debian. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380a1bc.2030...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On 25/05/14 01:06, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming that your 217.17.111.173/24 address on eth0 is correct, you probably need to set up default gateway as 217.17.111.1 (and you really should check it with your ISP, they are the only ones who know this). I just mail to my ISP and admins will help me but only on monday. :( Another likely candidate is the top of the block: 217.17.111.254 Give that a go. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380a2a9.9080...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Sat 24 May 2014 at 01:29:04 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple now. It should be after what follows::) In update-exim4.conf.conf change 'satellite' to 'internet'. There is a crucial addition to make to dc_smarthost. mail.messagingengine.com::587 There is no mention of satellite or internet in the file you cited above. Perhaps you mean exim4.conf.template? Please read what you wrote in https://lists.debian.org/8761l18n1d@newsguy.com Make the two edits to update-exim4.conf.conf, save and do service exim4 restart Apparently in all my fiddling, having changed the line in exim4.conf.template from satellite to internet, It has corrected update-exim4.conf.conf so that it reads: dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost' dc_other_hostnames='' dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1 ; ::1' dc_readhost='' dc_relay_domains='' dc_minimaldns='false' dc_relay_nets='' dc_smarthost='mail.messagingengine.com::587' CFILEMODE='644' dc_use_split_config='false' dc_hide_mailname='false' dc_mailname_in_oh='true' dc_localdelivery='mail_spool' --- --- ---=--- --- --- At any rate what you suggested was really all that was necessary. It works just fine now. Thanks for cutting thru all the mess I posted and having the patience to stay with it. That is such an easy configuration ... I think I'll switch my other hosts to exim4 too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87zji7th3o@newsguy.com
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:06:52 +0200 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just tried that, but without success. /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another one), so it's 254 to go. As I wrote, if you don't want to guess - check with your ISP. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524180411.bf499e69a582fa1dfa03f...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On 25/05/14 02:04, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:06:52 +0200 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just tried that, but without success. /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another one), so it's 254 to go. As I wrote, if you don't want to guess - check with your ISP. Also - did they not give you any documentation when you got your static IP? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380a813.8090...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 09:56:59 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Apparently in all my fiddling, having changed the line in exim4.conf.template from satellite to internet, It has corrected update-exim4.conf.conf so that it reads: dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost' A little apology from me here. This line is exactly what you need. Please read all references about changing 'satellite' to 'internet' as meaning change 'satellite' to 'smarthost'. Glad you are up and running. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524142225.gl17...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Grub2 missed Microsoft Windows 8.1 during Debian install
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 21:16:26 +1200, C.T.F. Jansen wrote: Grub2 missed Microsoft Windows 8.1 on the internal hard disk during the install of Debian 7.1 to an external hard disk. It failed to detect another operating system in the mbr and was primed to over write it. A trap waiting to be sprung. This was on a Toshiba C50D-A with the UEFI settings all disabled and so on in the Bios so it would boot non UEFI media. Does that properly. Please run the command 'os-prober' as root and post the output. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/24052014152802.0c77976dd...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/24/2014 09:33 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:37:35PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote: Hallo, does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a presentation (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that) eg ideally as simple as: $ programX -r media/ would show them in a random order where /media has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures Most of the picture viewers installed with a desktop environment will do this ie shotwell viewer, image viewr, ristretto, gthumb. Most such image-viewing programs do seem to support a timed-progression slideshow mode, yes. None of the ones I've looked at support playing a video as a slide of the slideshow, though - and the original question asked for a way to display pictures and movies in that style. Do any of the ones you cited support mixing playback of videos in between display of the images in such a slideshow? - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTgK4ZAAoJEASpNY00KDJr3j0P/RgzCaU1lrKihtc6x/NvYr5L Rk5B3PX+dCjrFzXMRTSYlhuR8aVFRTBYTFTINz8UX+rMiZwLSQNhkybmcVFjCdnC ykiNrxcIsfBS0SdJwrpYQD7rKTpK2BxSj0sibtafy75kqkQSGWf1zCnoGdsZL/98 FhZq0foEoZD2octs2mkenzAvWaJIUYby47eaJ7cK2Lm5mvRYU8xqdcHy7zvg3x67 rrQxYYFiUm/DNdAw3Fv0biizmumeQqOvPvEP7FLfCcXUXXqcOkKAcVEuhRZvMD31 ftBl4aR223S6vn8gTK1l4a8DnhGOaGb5tgbAekv/ZvAb1ONuFkoR7AB82emLDWIJ YsUPo1TxbfkTV9UH3tQzotg9Hkow9nM1LVLYFGnlyg9QUurXcW+MqdcCGtq88Yn/ DfMDk62GRLru/isA8l3Ie9ENcDBuPyOoFygvU5gnf1GuolxQn6BUgT3rPhTTDT5G T4gtaQtyRCypF2LuuqZuLUHX0WNQ/3ea6hdAnd90OTo2cuMmtk69XpgIZ0qhc2ts amrJ1nCfqu/kPIz/qXLeOh/oeyGIcHiZBl88lTsxI5q9JxWsILWyGOTHMxPkxqGL xNOUu5D9o0K8ZhazYy4zrtlboOCMiP9BXRxNZmUPWa/Py7AbGb3uStLh8yKKtTYC IUGjM2UfOFlwKpnH+WZW =9eVX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380ae19.7020...@fastmail.fm
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On 05/24/2014 09:06 AM, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: snip Well, I just tried that, but without success. /etc/network/interfaces --- auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 217.17.111.173 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 217.17.111.1 # ifdown eth0 # ifup eth0 $ ping 8.8.8.8 I get the following output: PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. From 217.17.111.173 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable Can I do anything to setup my home network or must to wait monday for ISP's admins? -- Regards, from Paul You may have to restart the networking or network-manager service or just reboot. I had to when I first setup static. Not sure why but it needed more than ifdown/ifup. e.g.: # service networking restart or, as I said, reboot. John -- --- John Bleichert-syb...@earthlink.net The heat from below can burn your eyes out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380ae67.6020...@earthlink.net
Re: 'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 09:52:43AM +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-23, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote: While you are correct, the sentence structure leads one to expect 'box' as a verb and 'ethernets' as a noun. Speaking as another native speaker, it took me two passes to read what was intended there. Speaking as a disgruntled and often restless native, linguistic confusion is my norm. Especially when you have phrases like: Peter Snell won the walking race three times running. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524150519.GA10565@tal
Re: friends laptop, no mic found
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 09:58:11AM +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-24, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:13:17AM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote: I always thought this mail list stripped attachments. I now know ... that it depends on their size? At what kbyte threshold do they strip off all your attachments and leave your article naked? LOL, I think it's 40 -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524150720.GB10565@tal
Re: Iceweasel and DRM
Ralf Mardorf grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 17:33 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Please continue on d-community-offtopic. True, but I have to clarify something, see below. Then how about clarifying it on off-topic as requested, rather than stirring it up over here? Or is it just more fun for you to keep bringing up old off-topic threads in the wrong place? --Dave [followups to off-topic] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 10:36:23 -0400 John Bleichert syb...@earthlink.net wrote: You may have to restart the networking or network-manager service or just reboot. I had to when I first setup static. Not sure why but it needed more than ifdown/ifup. e.g.: # service networking restart Good intention on your part, but this is bad advice. In /etc/init.d/networking 'force-reload' and 'restart' methods are marked as deprecated. Specifically corresponding script says: log_warning_msg Running $0 $1 is deprecated because it may not re-enable some interfaces A good, Debian-supported way to do this is: service networking stop; service networking start Given that host in question probably lacks a console, above commands should go into exactly one line. PS. Why would anyone would run NetworkManager (better called NetworkDestroyer) willingly on a router is beyond me :) Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524194300.6fa2f6c0423e7c34893e4...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:06:52 +0200 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just tried that, but without success. /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another one), so it's 254 to go. As I wrote, if you don't want to guess - check with your ISP. Well, I tried the default gateway with IP address: 217.17.111.1 and 217.17.111.254 None of them works. I rebooted every time when changed the default gw address. On both case I get the error message: $ ping -c 3 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. From 217.17.111.173 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 3 packet transmitted, 0 received, +1 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2017ms Also, I get no documentation else with the static IP address from my ISP but that that I get the static IP address 217.17.111.173 for the NIC with the specific MAC address that I don't wrote down here. Thank you all for help. -- Regards, from Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87a9a7rxi8@gmail.com
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On 05/24/2014 11:43 AM, Reco wrote: snip # service networking restart Good intention on your part, but this is bad advice. In /etc/init.d/networking 'force-reload' and 'restart' methods are marked as deprecated. Specifically corresponding script says: log_warning_msg Running $0 $1 is deprecated because it may not re-enable some interfaces A good, Debian-supported way to do this is: service networking stop; service networking start You're right. I remember that now (was a couple months ago). Given that host in question probably lacks a console, above commands should go into exactly one line. PS. Why would anyone would run NetworkManager (better called NetworkDestroyer) willingly on a router is beyond me :) Heh. Guilty of missing the rest of the thread... ( crawls back under his rock ) -- --- John Bleichert-syb...@earthlink.net The heat from below can burn your eyes out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380beb7.2070...@earthlink.net
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On Sat, 24 May 2014 17:45:35 +0200 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I tried the default gateway with IP address: 217.17.111.1 and 217.17.111.254 None of them works. I rebooted every time when changed the default gw address. Ok. Just to avoid sloppy wording I'd like to add that I meant 254 IP addresses left, not that you should set default gateway's last octet to 254. On both case I get the error message: $ ping -c 3 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. From 217.17.111.173 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 3 packet transmitted, 0 received, +1 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2017ms To keep things simple. Two host can communicate with each other without third party (router) only if they have their IPs from the same network. To communicate with the host from the different network (in your case, anything other than 217.17.111.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 and, probably 10.0.0.0/8 which is your home network) - you need IP routing. Simpliest case of routing is to provide host with the default gateway, so any IP packet which does not belong to a 'defined' (see above) network should go there. You're trying to ping Google's DNS server, which isn't part of your network without a working default gateway, so no wonder it says you that 'Destination net is unreachable'. Also, I get no documentation else with the static IP address from my ISP but that that I get the static IP address 217.17.111.173 for the NIC with the specific MAC address that I don't wrote down here. That can greatly simplify things if your ISP is using NAT with some kind of port redirection. Meaning, you obtain your IP as before, and they did all the job already. Can you please try to obtain any address on eth0 via dhcp (as before), check if anything works (i.e. from you to the Internet), and then try to connect to 217.17.111.173 from the outside? Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524200555.6bb283e039b509902e7ce...@gmail.com
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 07:34:18 -0500 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: I wrote: Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. Chris Bannister writes: It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) How is that easier? He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're lifting Google's search results. I see only one way to be completely sure of startpage.com - become an employee of Surfboard Holding BV (they own startpage.com). Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524201438.105403ff3d5c5d4df2a04...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit : Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another one), so it's 254 to go. Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses. Also, I get no documentation else with the static IP address from my ISP but that that I get the static IP address 217.17.111.173 for the NIC with the specific MAC address that I don't wrote down here. Is it really static or DHCP with a reservation for your MAC address ? In the latter case, revert to DHCP and you'll get all the required parameters (address, netmask, gateway, DNS) automatically. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380c145.5040...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On Sat, 24 May 2014 17:56:53 +0200 Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit : Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another one), so it's 254 to go. Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses. I seen ISPs that advertise routes ending with 0. A violation of certain RFC, I'm sure, but it did work. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524203851.ba03fee0b42b51f8f849a...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Reco a écrit : To keep things simple. Two host can communicate with each other without third party (router) only if they have their IPs from the same network. No. Only if they share the same broadcast domain (link layer network), regardless of IP addressing. Usually IP subnetting matches link layer network divisions, but not always. That can greatly simplify things if your ISP is using NAT with some kind of port redirection. Meaning, you obtain your IP as before, and they did all the job already. Huh ? NAT does not make things simpler but more complicated ! What would be the benefit of using NAT here ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380c870.4090...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:27:28 +0200 Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Reco a écrit : To keep things simple. Two host can communicate with each other without third party (router) only if they have their IPs from the same network. No. Only if they share the same broadcast domain (link layer network), regardless of IP addressing. Usually IP subnetting matches link layer network divisions, but not always. A simplification always steps away from the truth. You're right, of course. Now, if only you could explain all this in simple words to the OP :) That can greatly simplify things if your ISP is using NAT with some kind of port redirection. Meaning, you obtain your IP as before, and they did all the job already. Huh ? NAT does not make things simpler but more complicated ! For the one who maintains it - it is definitely complicates things. For the common user network topology is irrelevant (as many other things do). For the specific task discussed in this thread (obtaining ssh access via the public IP) an appropriate network configuration at ISP's level (most probably including NAT for the end users) simplifies things for the OP. What would be the benefit of using NAT here ? The obvious benefit for the ISP lies in not providing every ISP's customer with costly public IP while using network equipment coming straight from '80s. The benefit for the ISP's user lies in obtaining NATted IP (and stuff) via DHCP exactly the same way as before, yet 'magically' gaining access to the home network from certain ISP-provided public IP. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524210332.94eb05cbf197f1ca40812...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Reco a écrit : Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another one), so it's 254 to go. Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses. I seen ISPs that advertise routes ending with 0. A violation of certain RFC, I'm sure, but it did work. 1) A route is not an address. 2) An address ending with 0 is not always a network address (and conversely), depending on the prefix length. It is for /24. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380ccb2.5010...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Wish to ALMOST clone a logical partition
I'm running a series of experiments tweaking my Debian install. The procedure I wish to follow is: 0. Primary partition will have a normal install and will NOT be modified Grub2 installed to a second primary partition 1. install a minimal system to a logical partition 2. clone that partition to four additional logical partitions 3. Tweak the copies to have unique a. hostname b. partition label c. UUID Running dd from the master on the primary partition satisfies cloning function. Labeling partition done easily with gparted etc. Hostname can be set in /etc/hostname . How can I have each of the clones have a unique UUID. All partitions will be bootable and I suspect Grub could have problems. The test machine is physically isolated and will be only for this test - i.e. no security concerns. TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380d1b8.8020...@cloud85.net
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:45:38 +0200 Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Reco a écrit : Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another one), so it's 254 to go. Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses. I seen ISPs that advertise routes ending with 0. A violation of certain RFC, I'm sure, but it did work. 1) A route is not an address. Indeed it is not. 2) An address ending with 0 is not always a network address (and conversely), depending on the prefix length. It is for /24. And you're correct here too. IIRC in one case they gave their customers /20 subnet with a default route ending with zero. Such 'network configuration' worked only with certain proprietary OS which had four-colored banner as a logotype. Suffice to say that on ISP level nobody cared about any other scenario of using their service. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524211415.92dffdbe50fda435d432b...@gmail.com
Re: Wish to ALMOST clone a logical partition
Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: How can I have each of the clones have a unique UUID. All partitions will be bootable and I suspect Grub could have problems. This should do it for the ext* filesystem: tune2fs -U pre-generated-uuid-here fs-blockdev Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524211804.779ca6acab77b8f365617...@gmail.com
QOS htb and DSCP
when i google QOS for linux i always find HTB in most of my searches, i have been working on a linux base DD-WRT router and HTB is the part of it. my question is not related to DDWRT my question is does HTB works on DSCP base classes from AF21 to AF40 or HTB is some thing else. i am asking this just to clear my concept. Thanks, MYK
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 07:34:18AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. Chris Bannister writes: It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) How is that easier? They do it all for you. No need to fiddle with things locally. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524172526.GA15297@tal
Re: Wish to ALMOST clone a logical partition
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: I'm running a series of experiments tweaking my Debian install. The procedure I wish to follow is: 0. Primary partition will have a normal install and will NOT be modified Grub2 installed to a second primary partition 1. install a minimal system to a logical partition 2. clone that partition to four additional logical partitions 3. Tweak the copies to have unique a. hostname b. partition label c. UUID Running dd from the master on the primary partition satisfies cloning function. Labeling partition done easily with gparted etc. Hostname can be set in /etc/hostname . How can I have each of the clones have a unique UUID. All partitions will be bootable and I suspect Grub could have problems. The test machine is physically isolated and will be only for this test - i.e. no security concerns. TIA A bit too obvious, probably, but can the testing not be done in a vm ? Anyway, I you want to the the UUID, you should be able to do that with garted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524192531.3578d...@orac.fil
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
Reco writes: He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're lifting Google's search results. But I always block ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers anyway. StartPage just pointlessly adds another layer. How does StartPage pay their bills? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87y4xrqe4c@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:29:39 -0500 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: Reco writes: He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're lifting Google's search results. But I always block ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers anyway. StartPage just pointlessly adds another layer. Then there's absolutely no difference between the Google and the StartPage, short of two: - By querying Google directly you provide Google your IP address which can be linked to your search query, creating your search history anyway. - By querying StartPage do the same for the StartPage, but (hopefully), not for the Google itself. Above difference is irrelevant if you don't have a public IP (see RFC1918 for the details). The second difference is: 1) The links in the Google search result are prefixed with: https://www.google.insert_tld_here/url?q= and containing an extra parameters such as: sa=Uei=base64_junk_hereved=more_base64_junk Clicking the link results in redirection via Google - presumably they want to know which link(s) you've clicked. 2) Startpage helpfully provides you the direct links. Above difference is irrelevant again if you modify Google's search results with some kind of userscript. How does StartPage pay their bills? Beats me. I don't work for them. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524214345.927482c309a8d4e0302fd...@gmail.com
Re: search engines (hijacked from rapidly proliferating sess files )
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Joel Rees writes: The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside... Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. Which is essentially exactly what startpage.com gives you. Or, really, it gives Google results without the search bubble from tracking. Google gives me what it thinks I want to see, based on prior activity, all its tracking of me, its knowledge of my location, political affiliations, activities, etc. so the results are not objective. Startpage.com (owned and run by ixquick.com which I also use), gives the objective, unfiltered google results, no tracking, no manipulation. startpage and ixquick are the search engines I use most, but I also do use duckduckgo for some things (easy for unit conversions, timezone conversions, and stuff). tony -- https://tonybaldwin.info art, music, software by me, tony 3F330C6E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 07:34:18AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. Chris Bannister writes: It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) How is that easier? Startpage proxies google results, so it already brings you those results without all the filtering, manipulating, tracking, etc. with no further effort on your part to block that crap. ./tony -- https://tonybaldwin.info art, music, software by me, tony 3F330C6E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:29:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Reco writes: He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're lifting Google's search results. But I always block ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers anyway. StartPage just pointlessly adds another layer. How does StartPage pay their bills? They DO show ads. They just don't do the tracking and the filtering/manipulation of your search results. tony -- https://tonybaldwin.info art, music, software by me, tony 3F330C6E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wish to ALMOST clone a logical partition
Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: How can I have each of the clones have a unique UUID. All partitions will be bootable and I suspect Grub could have problems. This should do it for the ext* filesystem: tune2fs -U pre-generated-uuid-here fs-blockdev Thank you. Reading the man page indicates I can also use it to reset the label. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380eb75.4080...@cloud85.net
Re: search engines (hijacked from rapidly proliferating sess files )
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:50 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Joel Rees writes: The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside... Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. Which is essentially exactly what startpage.com gives you. Or, really, it gives Google results without the search bubble from tracking. Google gives me what it thinks I want to see, based on prior activity, all its tracking of me, its knowledge of my location, political affiliations, activities, etc. so the results are not objective. Startpage.com (owned and run by ixquick.com which I also use), gives the objective, unfiltered google results, no tracking, no manipulation. startpage and ixquick are the search engines I use most, but I also do use duckduckgo for some things (easy for unit conversions, timezone conversions, and stuff). +1 for StartPage. I'm a StartPage user, I don't use Google anymore, but to be fair, Google shows suggestions while you're typing, so assumed you misspell or you don't remember some terms, Google is easier to use than StartPage, IOW because of this feature you might get better results when using Google. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400958005.19701.11.camel@archlinux
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
Tony Baldwin writes: They DO show ads. They just don't do the tracking and the filtering/manipulation of your search results. You know this how? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87tx8fq8ts@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Wish to ALMOST clone a logical partition
Filip wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: I'm running a series of experiments tweaking my Debian install. The procedure I wish to follow is: 0. Primary partition will have a normal install and will NOT be modified Grub2 installed to a second primary partition 1. install a minimal system to a logical partition 2. clone that partition to four additional logical partitions 3. Tweak the copies to have unique a. hostname b. partition label c. UUID Running dd from the master on the primary partition satisfies cloning function. Labeling partition done easily with gparted etc. Hostname can be set in /etc/hostname . How can I have each of the clones have a unique UUID. All partitions will be bootable and I suspect Grub could have problems. The test machine is physically isolated and will be only for this test - i.e. no security concerns. TIA A bit too obvious, probably, but can the testing not be done in a vm ? Primarily personal preference. Anyway, I you want to the the UUID, you should be able to do that with garted. Although mentioned on http://gparted.org, it doesn't appear to be available with version shipped with Squeeze. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380f23e.1060...@cloud85.net
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
Tony Baldwin writes: Startpage proxies google results, so it already brings you those results without all the filtering, manipulating, tracking, etc. with no further effort on your part to block that crap. Since I always block all that crap no further effort is required. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87ppj3q8nl@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:42:44 +0200 filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: Openbox works very well. It's not a complete desktop environment of course, just one component, so you will need to pick and choose the applications to make it a workable environment. Which is actually a good thing because the application that are part of a desktop environment are usually somewhat poor. You can run tint2 to provide replace the taskbar/system tray/desktop pager functionality. feh to set the root window to a nice background image. xfe is a fast and easy to use file manager (not based on Gtk or Qt, and not even on Fltk but on the somewhat unknown Fox toolkit) wmctrl is a very useful tool to use in rc.xml for fast fast switching between applications: For example: keybind key=W-e action name=Execute commandwmctrl -x -a emacs.Emacs/command /action /keybind Switches to the desktop where emacs is running, and focuses the window in one keypress. Thanks Filip, This email is a great resource, and when I switch back from Xfce to Openbox I'll refer to it often. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524153428.13d51377@mydesk
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org writes: csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit : Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another one), so it's 254 to go. Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses. Also, I get no documentation else with the static IP address from my ISP but that that I get the static IP address 217.17.111.173 for the NIC with the specific MAC address that I don't wrote down here. Is it really static or DHCP with a reservation for your MAC address ? In the latter case, revert to DHCP and you'll get all the required parameters (address, netmask, gateway, DNS) automatically. The problem is solved now. It is not really static but DHCP with a reservation for my MAC address. I mentioned before maybe that, that I removed the dhcp-client program. Now, I installed it again. Fortunately, I don't removed it from /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory. In /etc/network/interfaces I have now allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp I tried the commands in on command line: # service networking stop service networking start but this freezes the situation; I waiting 2 minutes and after that I power off and then power on the GW machine. After that I can login to it with SSH and can see that everything works. So the problem is solved. Thank you all for help. However, in this case ISP's closes all ports, but 80. So, now I have open port 80 only. But, if I want to setup on this server an LDAP server, then there must be opened other port too. Well, one is depend on her/his ISP very much. -- Regards, from Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8738fzrmap@gmail.com
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: feh to set the root window to a nice background image. I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m for my Debian's JWM. Perhaps Esetroot is obsolete. Did anybody already mention a terminal emulation? IMO a good terminal emulation is ROXterm and Sublime Text might be a good editor, I still tend to use Pluma (quasi Gedit). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400961032.20512.5.camel@archlinux
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: I switch back from Xfce to Openbox What accessory apps that usually are part of a DE do you need? A nice calculator IMO is Galculator, but I didn't use it's scientific mode yet. If you're from an Europe contry whre the , vs .. Galculator interprets the , of the num block (num pad) as .. I e.g. use the English language, but a German keyboard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400965049.816.15.camel@archlinux
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:27:28 +0200 Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Huh ? NAT does not make things simpler but more complicated ! What would be the benefit of using NAT here ? Security by obscurity. NAT is one more hassle the badguys have to get through to get to your stuff. As botnets turn into brute force supercomputers, security by obscurity, used properly, is beginning to have some credibility again. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524171928.736534bc@mydesk
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400965744.816.16.camel@archlinux
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for things like flash drives. any suggestions ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524143033.0a3ba...@pebble.deldotd.com
Pitivi or Openshot require removing cups !?
I wanted to take a look at Pitivi and Openshot, but both installation require removing *lots* of important things like cups and gimp ?!? I run wheezy, with some backports (required by my motherboard) and a newer version of glibc (to run Master PDF Editor). I can live without these two programs, but I don't understand why installing them needs removing cups, for example. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405242330.44761.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes
On Saturday, 24 May 2014, Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:29:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Reco writes: He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're lifting Google's search results. But I always block ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers anyway. StartPage just pointlessly adds another layer. How does StartPage pay their bills? They DO show ads. They just don't do the tracking and the filtering/manipulation of your search results. tony -- https://tonybaldwin.info art, music, software by me, tony 3F330C6E If one has an objection to using google (privacy, tracking, cookies) is it not a little hypocritical to use Startpage which is still relying on Google search anyway ?
