date:20140604


El 03/06/2014 23:44, Debian GMail escribió:

El 03/06/14 17:08, Alejandro Esperón escribió:

Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com wrote:


Estimados:

Recurro a ustedes, que tienen una mucho más basta experiencia que yo.
Como buen vejete que soy, la terminal para mí es algo fundamental y que
nunca dejo de lado, aunque sea con un emulador de terminal gráfico.

Voy al tema.
Si uno lanza un programa desde una terminal, por ejemplo
$ k3b
no sólo no puedo seguir usando dicha terminal, si no que al cerrar la
ventana, se cierra el programa.
Para evitarlo, va el consabido
$ k3b 
Esto me permite seguir usando la terminal, pero si llego a cerrarla, se
cierra el programa k3b.

Sé que hay una forma, y es,luego de cargar con la opción  y antes de
cerrar la terminal, tipear
$ disown -h %1

Pero a veces, me olvido

Cuando invoco un programa desde la barra inferior de comandos de
Krusader, que en la práctica sería una mini-terminal, uno puede invocar
un programa, cerrar Krusader y el programa invocado no se cierra. Esto
quiere decir que de alguna manera se las apaña.

La pregunta:
¿Se puede modificar algún archivo de algo para que al cerrar la
terminal, automáticamente ejecute disown -h %1 y no me cierre otros
programas?

Muchas gracias

JAP


  nohup comando
 

Olvidé mencionar a nohup.


También puedes usar screen. Yo no podría vivir sin él.


Lo que yo quiero, es invocar un programa desde terminal con la llamada a
, y luego, aunque no haya puesto nohup o disown, no me cierre el
programa, mediante el toqueteo de alguna configuración de konsole,
xterm o la que fuese.
Es decir, que se comporte de esa manera por defecto.
O sea, el/los programas los quiero cerrar yo, cuando yo quiera, en el
orden que se me antoja, incluida las ventanas de consola.


Si quieres ver un listado de los ficheros y directorios debes teclear 
ls. Pero si siempre olvidas la l no veras nada. De la misma manera 
cuando lanzas un proceso desde un terminal el primero es hijo del 
segundo. Por esto, si cierras el terminal matas todos sus procesos 
hijos. Afortunadamente hay varias maneras de evitar esto, por ejemplo 
nohup, disown, screen... y gestionar los procesos con job, fg ,bg...


Así es como funciona.


Por ejemplo, una solución sería que todos los programas que invoque se
hagan con el prefijo nohup aunque no lo escriba.


Busca si puedes hacer eso con 'alias'


Una de las ventajas es que nohup crea un archivo log de lo que uno
corre, pero a veces, eso es desventaja, porque quiero ver el trazado en
tiempo real.


Usa las redirecciones 21 o /dev/null si no quieres el nohup.out




Gracias

JAP





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Re: Como saber si un usuario esta logeado como root?

2014-06-04 Thread fernando sainz

El día 4 de junio de 2014, 10:12, Juan Guil erj...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola.
 Como podria saber si un usuario que esta conectado a un sistema
 deBian, sea desde terminal o sea remotamnte, este se ha logeado como
 root?

 Normalmente, para saber los usuarios logeados a un sistema, hay unos
 cuantos comandos que te dicen quien esta logeado o conectado.
 ejemplo

 w
 finger
 who -a

 Alguien sabria como saber si dichos usuarios conectados, han hecho su
 - y estan como root?

 Estoy viendo que una posible forma de verlo es hacer un ps -ef |grep
 su - y ver quien tiene ese proceso corriendo.

 De todas formas, alguien sabria alguna formula mas?

 Gracias.


Pues ahora a parte de los comandos que mencionas no se me ocurre mucho.

Puedes ver los procesos de root asociados a un tty con:

ps -u root | grep tty

S2.


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Re: Como saber si un usuario esta logeado como root?

2014-06-04 Thread José Luis Triviño


On 04/06/14 10:40, fernando sainz wrote:

El día 4 de junio de 2014, 10:12, Juan Guil erj...@gmail.com escribió:

Hola.
Como podria saber si un usuario que esta conectado a un sistema
deBian, sea desde terminal o sea remotamnte, este se ha logeado como
root?

Normalmente, para saber los usuarios logeados a un sistema, hay unos
cuantos comandos que te dicen quien esta logeado o conectado.
ejemplo

w
finger
who -a

Alguien sabria como saber si dichos usuarios conectados, han hecho su
- y estan como root?

Estoy viendo que una posible forma de verlo es hacer un ps -ef |grep
su - y ver quien tiene ese proceso corriendo.

De todas formas, alguien sabria alguna formula mas?

Gracias.


Pues ahora a parte de los comandos que mencionas no se me ocurre mucho.

Puedes ver los procesos de root asociados a un tty con:

ps -u root | grep tty

S2.



Hola,

Que te parece ?
pstree -u

pstree muestra un árbol de procesos. Con el parámetro -u añade entre 
paréntesis el usuario del proceso cuando este cambia del usuario del 
proceso padre. Así, si por ejemplo el usuario1 tiene abierto un terminal 
y hace su -, aparecerá el proceso terminal y una rama con su - 
etiquetada con (root). Sólo tienes que buscar la cadena (root) en la 
salida de pstree y te dirá los procesos que adquirieron permisos de 
administrador. Mirando sus padres tendrás los usuarios que han obtenido 
esos permisos.


Saludos,


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Re: Como saber si un usuario esta logeado como root?


El 04/06/2014 10:12, Juan Guil escribió:

Hola.
Como podria saber si un usuario que esta conectado a un sistema
deBian, sea desde terminal o sea remotamnte, este se ha logeado como
root?

Normalmente, para saber los usuarios logeados a un sistema, hay unos
cuantos comandos que te dicen quien esta logeado o conectado.
ejemplo

w
finger
who -a

Alguien sabria como saber si dichos usuarios conectados, han hecho su
- y estan como root?

Estoy viendo que una posible forma de verlo es hacer un ps -ef |grep
su - y ver quien tiene ese proceso corriendo.

De todas formas, alguien sabria alguna formula mas?



grep session\ opened /var/log/auth.log



Gracias.





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Re: Como saber si un usuario esta logeado como root?


El 04/06/2014 12:36, Francesc Guitart escribió:

El 04/06/2014 10:12, Juan Guil escribió:

Hola.
Como podria saber si un usuario que esta conectado a un sistema
deBian, sea desde terminal o sea remotamnte, este se ha logeado como
root?

Normalmente, para saber los usuarios logeados a un sistema, hay unos
cuantos comandos que te dicen quien esta logeado o conectado.
ejemplo

w
finger
who -a

Alguien sabria como saber si dichos usuarios conectados, han hecho su
- y estan como root?

Estoy viendo que una posible forma de verlo es hacer un ps -ef |grep
su - y ver quien tiene ese proceso corriendo.

De todas formas, alguien sabria alguna formula mas?



grep session\ opened /var/log/auth.log


o mejor aún:

grep su:session /var/log/auth.log





Gracias.









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Re: Como saber si un usuario esta logeado como root?

2014-06-04 Thread Juan Guil

El día 4 de junio de 2014, 12:37, Francesc Guitart fguit...@gmx.com escribió:
 El 04/06/2014 12:36, Francesc Guitart escribió:

 El 04/06/2014 10:12, Juan Guil escribió:

 Hola.
 Como podria saber si un usuario que esta conectado a un sistema
 deBian, sea desde terminal o sea remotamnte, este se ha logeado como
 root?

 Normalmente, para saber los usuarios logeados a un sistema, hay unos
 cuantos comandos que te dicen quien esta logeado o conectado.
 ejemplo

 w
 finger
 who -a

 Alguien sabria como saber si dichos usuarios conectados, han hecho su
 - y estan como root?

 Estoy viendo que una posible forma de verlo es hacer un ps -ef |grep
 su - y ver quien tiene ese proceso corriendo.

 De todas formas, alguien sabria alguna formula mas?


 grep session\ opened /var/log/auth.log


 o mejor aún:

 grep su:session /var/log/auth.log




 Gracias.

yo te iba a decir:

grep session\ opened /var/log/auth.log | grep -v CRON |grep -i root



Guay, la solucion, en Debian y Ubuntu estupendo, pero CENTOS el
auth.log no esta, tendre que ver su equivalente.

Gracias!

Y tambien Gracias Jose Luis, esa respuesta es tambien inrteresante!

Gracias!!


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Re: Como saber si un usuario esta logeado como root?


El 04/06/2014 12:43, Juan Guil escribió:

El día 4 de junio de 2014, 12:37, Francesc Guitart fguit...@gmx.com escribió:

El 04/06/2014 12:36, Francesc Guitart escribió:


El 04/06/2014 10:12, Juan Guil escribió:


Hola.
Como podria saber si un usuario que esta conectado a un sistema
deBian, sea desde terminal o sea remotamnte, este se ha logeado como
root?

Normalmente, para saber los usuarios logeados a un sistema, hay unos
cuantos comandos que te dicen quien esta logeado o conectado.
ejemplo

w
finger
who -a

Alguien sabria como saber si dichos usuarios conectados, han hecho su
- y estan como root?

Estoy viendo que una posible forma de verlo es hacer un ps -ef |grep
su - y ver quien tiene ese proceso corriendo.

De todas formas, alguien sabria alguna formula mas?



grep session\ opened /var/log/auth.log



o mejor aún:

grep su:session /var/log/auth.log






Gracias.


yo te iba a decir:

grep session\ opened /var/log/auth.log | grep -v CRON |grep -i root



Guay, la solucion, en Debian y Ubuntu estupendo, pero CENTOS el
auth.log no esta, tendre que ver su equivalente.

Gracias!

Y tambien Gracias Jose Luis, esa respuesta es tambien inrteresante!

Gracias!!





No tengo ningún CentOS a mano pero creo que es en /var/log/messages o 
/var/log/secure




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Re: Cerrar ventanas de terminal sin cerrar programas lanzados desde la misma


El 04/06/14 05:40, Francesc Guitart escribió:

El 03/06/2014 23:44, Debian GMail escribió:

El 03/06/14 17:08, Alejandro Esperón escribió:

Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com wrote:


Estimados:

Recurro a ustedes, que tienen una mucho más basta experiencia que yo.
Como buen vejete que soy, la terminal para mí es algo fundamental y que
nunca dejo de lado, aunque sea con un emulador de terminal gráfico.

Voy al tema.
Si uno lanza un programa desde una terminal, por ejemplo
$ k3b
no sólo no puedo seguir usando dicha terminal, si no que al cerrar la
ventana, se cierra el programa.
Para evitarlo, va el consabido
$ k3b 
Esto me permite seguir usando la terminal, pero si llego a cerrarla, se
cierra el programa k3b.

Sé que hay una forma, y es,luego de cargar con la opción  y antes de
cerrar la terminal, tipear
$ disown -h %1

Pero a veces, me olvido

Cuando invoco un programa desde la barra inferior de comandos de
Krusader, que en la práctica sería una mini-terminal, uno puede invocar
un programa, cerrar Krusader y el programa invocado no se cierra. Esto
quiere decir que de alguna manera se las apaña.

La pregunta:
¿Se puede modificar algún archivo de algo para que al cerrar la
terminal, automáticamente ejecute disown -h %1 y no me cierre otros
programas?

Muchas gracias

JAP


  nohup comando
 

Olvidé mencionar a nohup.


También puedes usar screen. Yo no podría vivir sin él.


Lo que yo quiero, es invocar un programa desde terminal con la llamada a
, y luego, aunque no haya puesto nohup o disown, no me cierre el
programa, mediante el toqueteo de alguna configuración de konsole,
xterm o la que fuese.
Es decir, que se comporte de esa manera por defecto.
O sea, el/los programas los quiero cerrar yo, cuando yo quiera, en el
orden que se me antoja, incluida las ventanas de consola.


Si quieres ver un listado de los ficheros y directorios debes teclear
ls. Pero si siempre olvidas la l no veras nada. De la misma manera
cuando lanzas un proceso desde un terminal el primero es hijo del
segundo. Por esto, si cierras el terminal matas todos sus procesos
hijos. Afortunadamente hay varias maneras de evitar esto, por ejemplo
nohup, disown, screen... y gestionar los procesos con job, fg ,bg...

Así es como funciona.


Por ejemplo, una solución sería que todos los programas que invoque se
hagan con el prefijo nohup aunque no lo escriba.


Busca si puedes hacer eso con 'alias'


Una de las ventajas es que nohup crea un archivo log de lo que uno
corre, pero a veces, eso es desventaja, porque quiero ver el trazado en
tiempo real.


Usa las redirecciones 21 o /dev/null si no quieres el nohup.out




Gracias

JAP








Screen lo he usado mucho.
De hecho, lo uso en un 486 sin entorno gráfico, que hace de servidor 
torrent, y lo opero a distancia. El pobre está en un altillo sin 
siquiera pantalla.


No supe bien qué hacer con alias, lo que probé, no funcionó, que no 
quiere decir que lo haya hecho bien.


Seguiré dando vueltas por ahí.

JAP


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OpenVZ sobre Debian 7

2014-06-04 Thread ciracusa


Hola Lista.

Alguien logró instalar OpenVZ sobre Debian 7?

Muchas Gracias.

Saludos.


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Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7

2014-06-04 Thread leos.lis...@gmail.com


Buenas grupo!

Alguien por casualidad está usando una mother Gigabyte que soporte 
IntelVT y que la placa de red on board funcione con los Drivers de 
Debian Whezzy?


Desde ya muchas gracias!




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Re: OpenVZ sobre Debian 7


El 04/06/14 08:55, ciracusa escribió:

Hola Lista.

Alguien logró instalar OpenVZ sobre Debian 7?

Muchas Gracias.

Saludos.




RTFM

http://openvz.org/Installation_on_Debian
http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-and-using-openvz-on-debian-wheezy-amd64

JAP


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Re: Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7


El 04/06/14 09:04, leos.lis...@gmail.com escribió:

Buenas grupo!

Alguien por casualidad está usando una mother Gigabyte que soporte
IntelVT y que la placa de red on board funcione con los Drivers de
Debian Whezzy?

Desde ya muchas gracias!






Yo.

Board Info: #2
Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Product: H61M-S1

¿En qué te puedo ayudar?

JAP


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Re: Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7


El 04/06/14 09:04, leos.lis...@gmail.com escribió:

Buenas grupo!

Alguien por casualidad está usando una mother Gigabyte que soporte
IntelVT y que la placa de red on board funcione con los Drivers de
Debian Whezzy?

Desde ya muchas gracias!





 Yo.

Board Info: #2
Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Product: H61M-S1

str3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz

¿En qué te puedo ayudar?

JAP


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Re: Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7

2014-06-04 Thread Flako

El día 4 de junio de 2014, 9:04, leos.lis...@gmail.com
leos.lis...@gmail.com escribió:
 Buenas grupo!

 Alguien por casualidad está usando una mother Gigabyte que soporte IntelVT y
 que la placa de red on board funcione con los Drivers de Debian Whezzy?

 Desde ya muchas gracias!



IntelVT = Tecnologia  de virtualización de Intel?
Si es eso, es algo soportado por el Micro y no es un tema de mather.


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Re: Cerrar ventanas de terminal sin cerrar programas lanzados desde la misma

El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:40:06 -0300, Debian GMail escribió:

(...)

Por aquí explican brevemente la diferencia entre , nohup y disown:

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3886/difference-between-nohup-disown-and

 Cuando invoco un programa desde la barra inferior de comandos de
 Krusader, que en la práctica sería una mini-terminal, uno puede invocar
 un programa, cerrar Krusader y el programa invocado no se cierra. Esto
 quiere decir que de alguna manera se las apaña.

Krusader es un explorador de archivos por lo que si tiene alguna opción 
para ejecutar aplicaciones lo tendrá integrado en su código y la ejecuta 
como si lo hicieras tú manualmente haciendo un doble click.

 La pregunta:
 ¿Se puede modificar algún archivo de algo para que al cerrar la
 terminal, automáticamente ejecute disown -h %1 y no me cierre otros
 programas?

Ese archivo de algo tendría que permitir especificar un comando que se 
ejecutara siempre al cerrar la aplicación (la terminal) lo cual no sé 
hasta que punto sería deseable porque afectaría a todos los comandos 
ejecutados. 

Lo que sí podrías mirar es la forma de crearte un acceso directo a la 
terminal que prefieras con algún parámetro que evite que se cierre 
(p. ej., hold para xterm).

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Bug en libgnutls

Estimados, estoy buscando información sobre el bug reciente en 
libgnutls (detallo el mismo más abajo), más precisamente que versiones 
son las afectadas y a partir de que versión está resuelto el problema.


Recuerdo que cuando fue el Heart Bleed la actualización era reciente y 
si uno hacía un apt-cache show openssl en la lista de cambios de la 
versión que solucionaba el problema aparecía fix Heart Bleed bla bla 
bla (no recuerdo que decía exactamente pero si que aclaraba 
perfectamente que el bug estaba resuelto).


Si hago lo mismo ahora con libgnutls26 me sale que la última versión 
disponible es la 2.12.20-8+deb7u2, que la prioridad de la actualización 
es importante pero no sale nada más. No sé si esto será porque esta 
actualización o bien no resuelve el bug o ya fue resuelto por una 
actualización anterior.


Mi pregunta en concreto es (de novato en estas cuestiones): Cómo puedo 
hacer para saber qué versión es la que implementa el fix en cuestión? Si 
es posible saberlo directamente desde la consola mejor.


Ahora si, leyendo sobre el bendito bug encontré esta página (por 
supuesto hay muchas, pero esta me pareció muy clara):


http://www.etccrond.es/2014/03/fallos-en-ios-y-gnutls-y-advertencia-debian-jessie.html

Saludos y muchas gracias.

Mauro.


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Re: Cerrar ventanas de terminal sin cerrar programas lanzados desde la misma


El 04/06/14 10:35, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:40:06 -0300, Debian GMail escribió:

(...)

Por aquí explican brevemente la diferencia entre , nohup y disown:

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3886/difference-between-nohup-disown-and


Cuando invoco un programa desde la barra inferior de comandos de
Krusader, que en la práctica sería una mini-terminal, uno puede invocar
un programa, cerrar Krusader y el programa invocado no se cierra. Esto
quiere decir que de alguna manera se las apaña.


Krusader es un explorador de archivos por lo que si tiene alguna opción
para ejecutar aplicaciones lo tendrá integrado en su código y la ejecuta
como si lo hicieras tú manualmente haciendo un doble click.

Exactamente.
Lo que quiero es integrarle al emulador de terminal algo para que se 
comporte de dicha manera.




La pregunta:
¿Se puede modificar algún archivo de algo para que al cerrar la
terminal, automáticamente ejecute disown -h %1 y no me cierre otros
programas?


Ese archivo de algo tendría que permitir especificar un comando que se
ejecutara siempre al cerrar la aplicación (la terminal) lo cual no sé
hasta que punto sería deseable porque afectaría a todos los comandos
ejecutados.

Eso es lo que quiero.



Lo que sí podrías mirar es la forma de crearte un acceso directo a la
terminal que prefieras con algún parámetro que evite que se cierre
(p. ej., hold para xterm).

Algo así estoy haciendo con yakuake colgado y oculto.



Saludos,

Otros para vos.

JAP


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Re: crear repositorio propio

El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 18:11:11 -0400, Francisco javier escribió:

 hola listeros, mi consulta es para montar un repositorio propio, ejem,
 tengo un disco duro externo usb, y necesito instalar programas en un
 dell latitude cpx.

(...)

Tienes algunos artículos en Internet donde te dicen cómo configurar un 
repositorio local en un disco duro:

Easy Local Repository
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16t=103934

Recuerda que también tienes los DVD a los que poder acceder directamente 
sin tener que configurar un repositorio local por lo que si el dell 
tiene lector de DVD (o CD) también podría ser una opción.

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Re: Como saber si un usuario esta logeado como root?

El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:12:17 +0200, Juan Guil escribió:

 Hola.
 Como podria saber si un usuario que esta conectado a un sistema
 deBian, sea desde terminal o sea remotamnte, este se ha logeado como
 root?

users | grep root

 Normalmente, para saber los usuarios logeados a un sistema, hay unos
 cuantos comandos que te dicen quien esta logeado o conectado.
 ejemplo
 
 w
 finger
 who -a
 
 Alguien sabria como saber si dichos usuarios conectados, han hecho su
 - y estan como root?

grep -i root /var/log/auth.log

Y si no lo encuentras en ese archivo:

zgrep su:session /var/log/*

 Estoy viendo que una posible forma de verlo es hacer un ps -ef |grep
 su - y ver quien tiene ese proceso corriendo.
 
 De todas formas, alguien sabria alguna formula mas?

Creo que ya tienes varias :-)

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Re: OpenVZ sobre Debian 7

El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:55:50 -0300, ciracusa escribió:

 Alguien logró instalar OpenVZ sobre Debian 7?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=openvz+debian+wheezy

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Re: Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7

El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 09:04:42 -0300, leos.lis...@gmail.com escribió:

 Alguien por casualidad está usando una mother Gigabyte que soporte 
 IntelVT y que la placa de red on board funcione con los Drivers de 
 Debian Whezzy?

La mayoría de las placas base modernas vienen con vT disponible aunque no 
siempre activado de manera predeterminada.

Si preguntas porque buscas un modelo de placa con vT y que sea compatible 
con los drivers de red del kernel pues tienes opciones para aburrir :-)

Tendrías que buscar un chipset que admita vT y con un adaptador de red 
soportado por el kernel que en el caso de intel son la mayoría (e1000e):

http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?VTX=trueMarketSegment=DT

Una ves que tengas localizado el chipset podrás afinar mejor el modelo de 
placa Gigabyte.

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El día 4 de junio de 2014, 10:39, Mauro Antivero
mauro.antiv...@gmail.com escribió:
Estimados, estoy buscando información sobre el bug reciente en libgnutls
(detallo el mismo más abajo), más precisamente que versiones son las
afectadas y a partir de que versión está resuelto el problema.

Recuerdo que cuando fue el Heart Bleed la actualización era reciente y si
uno hacía un apt-cache show openssl en la lista de cambios de la versión
que solucionaba el problema aparecía fix Heart Bleed bla bla bla (no
recuerdo que decía exactamente pero si que aclaraba perfectamente que el bug
estaba resuelto).

Si hago lo mismo ahora con libgnutls26 me sale que la última versión
disponible es la 2.12.20-8+deb7u2, que la prioridad de la actualización es
importante pero no sale nada más. No sé si esto será porque esta
actualización o bien no resuelve el bug o ya fue resuelto por una
actualización anterior.

Mi pregunta en concreto es (de novato en estas cuestiones): Cómo puedo hacer
para saber qué versión es la que implementa el fix en cuestión? Si es
posible saberlo directamente desde la consola mejor.

Ahora si, leyendo sobre el bendito bug encontré esta página (por supuesto
hay muchas, pero esta me pareció muy clara):

http://www.etccrond.es/2014/03/fallos-en-ios-y-gnutls-y-advertencia-debian-jessie.html

Saludos y muchas gracias.

Mauro.

Mauro el cve es el CVE-2014-3466 y la info y solución la tenés acá [1]

Más info [2]

[1] https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-3466
[2] http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2014-3466

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Re: Bug en libgnutls

El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:39:11 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 Estimados, estoy buscando información sobre el bug reciente en
 libgnutls (detallo el mismo más abajo), más precisamente que versiones
 son las afectadas y a partir de que versión está resuelto el problema.

(...)

 Mi pregunta en concreto es (de novato en estas cuestiones): Cómo puedo
 hacer para saber qué versión es la que implementa el fix en cuestión? Si
 es posible saberlo directamente desde la consola mejor.

Apuntándote o siguiendo la lista debian-security :-)

[SECURITY] [DSA 2944-1] gnutls26 security update
https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00124.html

***
For the stable distribution (wheezy), this problem has been fixed in
version 2.12.20-8+deb7u2.

For the unstable distribution (sid), this problem has been fixed in
version 2.12.23-16.

We recommend that you upgrade your gnutls26 packages.
***

Más claro imposible.

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Re: Bug en libgnutls


El 04/06/14 11:11, Camaleón escribió:

El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:39:11 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:


Estimados, estoy buscando información sobre el bug reciente en
libgnutls (detallo el mismo más abajo), más precisamente que versiones
son las afectadas y a partir de que versión está resuelto el problema.

(...)


Mi pregunta en concreto es (de novato en estas cuestiones): Cómo puedo
hacer para saber qué versión es la que implementa el fix en cuestión? Si
es posible saberlo directamente desde la consola mejor.

Apuntándote o siguiendo la lista debian-security :-)

[SECURITY] [DSA 2944-1] gnutls26 security update
https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00124.html

***
For the stable distribution (wheezy), this problem has been fixed in
version 2.12.20-8+deb7u2.

For the unstable distribution (sid), this problem has been fixed in
version 2.12.23-16.

We recommend that you upgrade your gnutls26 packages.
***

Más claro imposible.

Es verdad, clarísimo. Gracias!

Pero me veo obligado a volver a preguntar, hay alguna manera de ver esto 
en consola? No estoy loco (creo) y cuando fue el tema de Heart Bleed 
recuerdo haber visto en la misma consola el comentario sobre que una 
actualización en particular resolvía el problema.


Sigo leyendo información al respecto, pero hay que hacer algo más además 
de actualizar el paquete? Con heartbleed había que reiniciar openssl y 
regenerar determinadas contraseñas en algunos casos.


Saludos y muchas gracias!

Mauro.


Saludos,




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Re: Bug en libgnutls


El 04/06/14 11:09, Guido Ignacio escribió:

El día 4 de junio de 2014, 10:39, Mauro Antivero
mauro.antiv...@gmail.com escribió:

Estimados, estoy buscando información sobre el bug reciente en libgnutls
(detallo el mismo más abajo), más precisamente que versiones son las
afectadas y a partir de que versión está resuelto el problema.

Recuerdo que cuando fue el Heart Bleed la actualización era reciente y si
uno hacía un apt-cache show openssl en la lista de cambios de la versión
que solucionaba el problema aparecía fix Heart Bleed bla bla bla (no
recuerdo que decía exactamente pero si que aclaraba perfectamente que el bug
estaba resuelto).

Si hago lo mismo ahora con libgnutls26 me sale que la última versión
disponible es la 2.12.20-8+deb7u2, que la prioridad de la actualización es
importante pero no sale nada más. No sé si esto será porque esta
actualización o bien no resuelve el bug o ya fue resuelto por una
actualización anterior.

Mi pregunta en concreto es (de novato en estas cuestiones): Cómo puedo hacer
para saber qué versión es la que implementa el fix en cuestión? Si es
posible saberlo directamente desde la consola mejor.

Ahora si, leyendo sobre el bendito bug encontré esta página (por supuesto
hay muchas, pero esta me pareció muy clara):

http://www.etccrond.es/2014/03/fallos-en-ios-y-gnutls-y-advertencia-debian-jessie.html

Saludos y muchas gracias.

Mauro.



Mauro el cve es el CVE-2014-3466 y la info y solución la tenés acá [1]

Más info [2]

[1] https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-3466
[2] http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2014-3466



Muchísimas gracias por esta info, muy clara.

Ahora la pregunta obligada, tengo un par de servers con Debian Squeeze y 
luego de hacer un aptitude update la última versión que me aparece 
disponible es la squeeze3.


Tengo que instalar el paquete manualmente acaso o me estoy olvidando de 
algo?


Saludos y gracias.

Mauro.


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Re: Bug en libgnutls

El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 13:10:49 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 El 04/06/14 11:11, Camaleón escribió:
 El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:39:11 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 Estimados, estoy buscando información sobre el bug reciente en
 libgnutls (detallo el mismo más abajo), más precisamente que versiones
 son las afectadas y a partir de que versión está resuelto el problema.
 (...)

 Mi pregunta en concreto es (de novato en estas cuestiones): Cómo puedo
 hacer para saber qué versión es la que implementa el fix en cuestión?
 Si es posible saberlo directamente desde la consola mejor.
 Apuntándote o siguiendo la lista debian-security :-)

 [SECURITY] [DSA 2944-1] gnutls26 security update
 https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00124.html

(...)

 Más claro imposible.
 Es verdad, clarísimo. Gracias!
 
 Pero me veo obligado a volver a preguntar, hay alguna manera de ver esto
 en consola? No estoy loco (creo) y cuando fue el tema de Heart Bleed
 recuerdo haber visto en la misma consola el comentario sobre que una
 actualización en particular resolvía el problema.

Dale un ojo a apt-listchanges.

 Sigo leyendo información al respecto, pero hay que hacer algo más además
 de actualizar el paquete? Con heartbleed había que reiniciar openssl y
 regenerar determinadas contraseñas en algunos casos.

En este caso no veo ninguna nota que recomiende acciones adicionales y 
por el tipo de vulnerabilidad de la que se trata (DoS) entiendo que con 
actualizar el paquete sería suficiente.

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Re: Bug en libgnutls


El 04/06/14 13:25, Mauro Antivero escribió:

El 04/06/14 11:09, Guido Ignacio escribió:

El día 4 de junio de 2014, 10:39, Mauro Antivero
mauro.antiv...@gmail.com escribió:
Estimados, estoy buscando información sobre el bug reciente en 
libgnutls

(detallo el mismo más abajo), más precisamente que versiones son las
afectadas y a partir de que versión está resuelto el problema.

Recuerdo que cuando fue el Heart Bleed la actualización era reciente 
y si
uno hacía un apt-cache show openssl en la lista de cambios de la 
versión

que solucionaba el problema aparecía fix Heart Bleed bla bla bla (no
recuerdo que decía exactamente pero si que aclaraba perfectamente 
que el bug

estaba resuelto).

Si hago lo mismo ahora con libgnutls26 me sale que la última versión
disponible es la 2.12.20-8+deb7u2, que la prioridad de la 
actualización es

importante pero no sale nada más. No sé si esto será porque esta
actualización o bien no resuelve el bug o ya fue resuelto por una
actualización anterior.

Mi pregunta en concreto es (de novato en estas cuestiones): Cómo 
puedo hacer

para saber qué versión es la que implementa el fix en cuestión? Si es
posible saberlo directamente desde la consola mejor.

Ahora si, leyendo sobre el bendito bug encontré esta página (por 
supuesto

hay muchas, pero esta me pareció muy clara):

http://www.etccrond.es/2014/03/fallos-en-ios-y-gnutls-y-advertencia-debian-jessie.html 



Saludos y muchas gracias.

Mauro.



Mauro el cve es el CVE-2014-3466 y la info y solución la tenés acá [1]

Más info [2]
Pido mis disculpas, el mail que acabo de mandar estaba incompleto. Acá 
va completo.


[1] https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-3466
Bien, acá dice que el paquete gnutls26 para Debian Squeeze es vulnerable 
hasta la versión squeeze3 y que deja de ser vulnerable en la versión 
squeeze4. En resumen, Squeeze sería vulnerable si no actualizamos.


Pero si seguimos el link a donde lleva DSA-2944-2 allí dice que Old 
Stable (osea Squeeze) no es vulnerable, al igual que Testing y Unstable 
y ahí es donde realmente me pierdo :S


Alguien me podría aclarar esto por favor?

[2] http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2014-3466




Ahora si, completo con lo que había escrito antes, en donde pregunto 
como actualizar el paquete libgnutls en Squeeze (en el caso de que 
realmente haga falta, ya que sinceramente no termino de entender si hay 
que actualizar o no):


Muchísimas gracias por esta info, muy clara.

Ahora la pregunta obligada, tengo un par de servers con Debian Squeeze y 
luego de hacer un aptitude update la última versión que me aparece 
disponible es la squeeze3.


Tengo que instalar el paquete manualmente acaso o me estoy olvidando de 
algo?


Saludos y gracias.

Mauro.


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Re: OpenVZ sobre Debian 7

2014-06-04 Thread Abraham Rico Moreno

Yo lo tengo en producción 

Si quieres te apoyo para realizar la instalación 

Saludos
El 04/06/2014, a las 06:55, ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com escribió:

Re: Bug en libgnutls

El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 13:33:46 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 El 04/06/14 13:25, Mauro Antivero escribió:
 El 04/06/14 11:09, Guido Ignacio escribió:

(...)

 Mauro el cve es el CVE-2014-3466 y la info y solución la tenés acá [1]

 Más info [2]
 Pido mis disculpas, el mail que acabo de mandar estaba incompleto. Acá
 va completo.

 [1] https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-3466

 Bien, acá dice que el paquete gnutls26 para Debian Squeeze es vulnerable
 hasta la versión squeeze3 y que deja de ser vulnerable en la versión
 squeeze4. En resumen, Squeeze sería vulnerable si no actualizamos.

Del paquete de la versión oldstable (squeeze) no han dicho nada.

 Pero si seguimos el link a donde lleva DSA-2944-2 allí dice que Old
 Stable (osea Squeeze) no es vulnerable, al igual que Testing y Unstable
 y ahí es donde realmente me pierdo :S
 
 Alguien me podría aclarar esto por favor?

Puede ser que se hayan liado. A ver, aplicando la lógica, si la versión 
oldsatble aún tiene mantenimiento de parches de seguridad y no lo han 
sacado, una de dos:

1/ La versión del paquete de oldstable no se ve afectada
2/ Están preparando el paquete

No nos olvidemos que hay paquetes que son vulnerables y que están 
pendientes de asignación:

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/oldstable
https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable

 [2] http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2014-3466



 Ahora si, completo con lo que había escrito antes, en donde pregunto
 como actualizar el paquete libgnutls en Squeeze (en el caso de que
 realmente haga falta, ya que sinceramente no termino de entender si hay
 que actualizar o no):
 
 Muchísimas gracias por esta info, muy clara.
 
 Ahora la pregunta obligada, tengo un par de servers con Debian Squeeze y
 luego de hacer un aptitude update la última versión que me aparece
 disponible es la squeeze3.
 
 Tengo que instalar el paquete manualmente acaso o me estoy olvidando de
 algo?

No, tienes que esperar a que publiquen el paquete actualizado si es que 
lo sacan.

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Re: Como saber si un usuario esta logeado como root?

2014-06-04 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)

whoami
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El día 4 de junio de 2014, 9:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:12:17 +0200, Juan Guil escribió:

 Hola.
 Como podria saber si un usuario que esta conectado a un sistema
 deBian, sea desde terminal o sea remotamnte, este se ha logeado como
 root?

 users | grep root

 Normalmente, para saber los usuarios logeados a un sistema, hay unos
 cuantos comandos que te dicen quien esta logeado o conectado.
 ejemplo

 w
 finger
 who -a

 Alguien sabria como saber si dichos usuarios conectados, han hecho su
 - y estan como root?

 grep -i root /var/log/auth.log

 Y si no lo encuentras en ese archivo:

 zgrep su:session /var/log/*

 Estoy viendo que una posible forma de verlo es hacer un ps -ef |grep
 su - y ver quien tiene ese proceso corriendo.

 De todas formas, alguien sabria alguna formula mas?

 Creo que ya tienes varias :-)

 Saludos,

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Re: OpenVZ sobre Debian 7

2014-06-04 Thread Cristian Mitchell

El 4 de junio de 2014, 14:17, Abraham Rico Moreno debiangdlica...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Yo lo tengo en producción

 Si quieres te apoyo para realizar la instalación

 Saludos
 El 04/06/2014, a las 06:55, ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com escribió:




Se que no es lo que preguntaste

pero el openvz en debian 7 termina siendo un frankenstein por que no
escribieron el código para kernel mayores a 3.0
cuando me vi en la misma disyuntiva,
me plantee un debian viejo 6.x , uno recauchutado 7.x con kernel 2.6 o
arriesgarme con lxc
me decidi al riesgo por el lxc
y a 8 meses de la decision no me arrepiento en lo mas mínimo
se que todavía le falta pero anda sin mayores tropiezos
lo que extraño es el livemigrate pero habra que tener paciencia


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Re: Debian Wheezy/stable krashar datorn

2014-06-04 Thread Staffan Melin (Oscillator)

Ett annat alternativ är att gå över från Stable till Testing. Min
hårdvara är från 2010. Men det känns konstigt att göra detta byte för
att få en stabilare maskin.

/Staffan

2014-06-04 10:22 GMT+02:00 Staffan Melin (Oscillator)
staffan.me...@oscillator.se:
2014-06-03 23:34 GMT+02:00 Lars Nordlund lars.nordl...@hem.utfors.se:
tis 2014-06-03 klockan 10:37 +0200 skrev Staffan Melin (Oscillator):
Någon som har ett tips på hur jag ska gå vidare i min felsökning? Kan
det vara moderkortet (ett Gigabyte X58A-UD3R) som inte är kompatibelt?
Kör firmware-linux-nonfree och även flashplugin-nonfree (fan, ska
prova att avinstallera flash).

Har du testat att göra längre kompileringsjobb? T ex parallell-kompilera
något stort mjukvaruprojekt, om och om igen? Får du t ex segmentation
fault från gcc vid något tillfälle har du antagligen hårdvaruproblem
(CPU, minne, cacheminne, moderkort). Om du kan framkalla felet utan att
ha tung grafik igång är det ett plus. Moderna grafik-drivare är idag
såna monster att de inte riktigt går att lita på..

Jag har gjort några kompileringar, ex Scribus, men kan ju prova att
köra flera stycken samtidigt. Det mystiska är att datorn är stabil
under Win7, vilket gör att jag lutar åt att utesluta hårdvarufel
(samtidigt kan det ju helt enkelt vara så att Win7 inte belastar just
dessa delar av datorn).

Men grafikdrivrutinen är en misstänkt kandidat. Åtminstone en gång har
datorn kraschat totalt (bootat om) när jag precis klickat på en annan
flik i Iceweasel. Jag har dock provat två olika grafikkort från två
olika tillverkare (NVidia och ATI). Färre krasher med ATI, men inte
helt felfritt. Inbyggd Intel-grafik verkar vara det bästa, har några
bärbara som fungerar felfritt och de har alla Intel-grafik.

En möjlig orsak till problem kan vara att du har otillräcklig kontakt
mellan processor och kylfläns. Det är ett problem jag själv haft på en
av mina datorer (core2duo). Testa att ta loss flänsen, rengör från
gammal pasta och sätt ny, i ett perfekt, lagom tjockt, lager. Kör om
dina stabilitetstester och se om det har någon effekt.

Intressant. Ska öppna upp och kolla. Samtidigt kan krascherna inträffa
när datorn nyss är startad = sval processor. Ska passa på att ta loss
och sätta dit alla kort, RAM-minnen etc, så att jag är säker på god
kontakt.

Hoppas du löser problemet. Instabil dator är fruktansvärt att ha.

Ja, jag måste kunna lita på min produktionsmaskin.

Mvh, Lars

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Re: Debian Wheezy/stable krashar datorn

2014-06-04 Thread Staffan Melin (Oscillator)

2014-06-03 23:34 GMT+02:00 Lars Nordlund lars.nordl...@hem.utfors.se:
tis 2014-06-03 klockan 10:37 +0200 skrev Staffan Melin (Oscillator):
Någon som har ett tips på hur jag ska gå vidare i min felsökning? Kan
det vara moderkortet (ett Gigabyte X58A-UD3R) som inte är kompatibelt?
Kör firmware-linux-nonfree och även flashplugin-nonfree (fan, ska
prova att avinstallera flash).

Hoppas du löser problemet. Instabil dator är fruktansvärt att ha.

Ja, jag måste kunna lita på min produktionsmaskin.

Mvh, Lars

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Re: Debian Wheezy/stable krashar datorn

2014-06-04 Thread Sven Arvidsson

On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 20:12 +0200, Staffan Melin (Oscillator) wrote:
 Intressant tips. Men det är konstigt att det isf fungerar under Windows?

I nio fall av tio spelar nog inte operativsystemet någon roll om det är
hårdvaruproblem, men det kan ju röra sig om små marginaler och skilja på
hur någon drivrutin beter sig. 

T.ex. kanske Windows är bättre på power management för någon komponent
som under Linux istället drar mer ström eller överhettas.

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Re: Debian Wheezy/stable krashar datorn

2014-06-04 Thread Sven Arvidsson

On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 10:37 +0200, Staffan Melin (Oscillator) wrote:
 Jag har en dator som fungerar fint med Win7.
 Under Debian Wheezy/XFCE4 krashar den ibland (kanske 1 gång i veckan).
 
 Någon som har ett tips på hur jag ska gå vidare i min felsökning? Kan
 det vara moderkortet (ett Gigabyte X58A-UD3R) som inte är kompatibelt?
 Kör firmware-linux-nonfree och även flashplugin-nonfree (fan, ska
 prova att avinstallera flash).

Ett par andra saker du kan testa:

* Se om RAM:en finns i listan på moderkortets rekommenderade modeller.

* Försiktigt öka spänningen till minnet och/eller sänka hastigheten på
minnet.

* Någon med samma moderkort hade problem med att köra SATA och SATAII
diskar samtidigt. Om du har flera diskar kan du testa att bara köra med
en.

Lycka till!

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Re: Mate 1.8 no Debian

2014-06-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

On Tue, 03 Jun 2014, Listeiro 037 wrote:
 Eu tinha certeza de que haveria um espaço para o Mate no Debian.
 Provavelmente será para a versão 8 (Jessie), não é? Hoje, por esta

Está disponível nos backports para Wheezy, e pelo que me disseram, funciona
bem (inclusive em paralelo com o Gnome normal).

Pode usar Mate 1.8 no Debian 7.5.  Divirta-se :-)

Instruções em:
http://backports.debian.org/

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Re: Mate 1.8 no Debian

2014-06-04 Thread Francisco C Soares


On 03-06-2014 23:29, Listeiro 037 wrote:

Saudações.

Faz um tempo perguntei sobre o Desktop Mate no Debian (e sobre o
MariaDB ...


Saudações Listeiro037,

Atualmente você pode usar os repositórios do próprio projeto sem muitos 
contra tempo, acesse:


https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/#mirror=kaistdistro=Debian

Tenho o MariaDB instalado aqui em casa em um Debian 7, e o mesmo 
encontra-se estável.


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telão

2014-06-04 Thread Fred Maranhão

liguei uma tv grande num computador e instalei debian.

pretendo deixar uma tela do zabbix eternamente ligada no telão, mas
gostaria de bloquear a tela e ainda ficar vendo a tela do zabbix
atualizar. tem como fazer isto?

esta dica tinha exatamente o que eu precisava, mas parece que o xlock
não existe no debian:

http://superuser.com/questions/363347/transparent-screensaver-for-linux

e com xscreensaver não achei como fazer a mesma coisa


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[OFF-TOPIC] Migrar do gmail

2014-06-04 Thread Tobias Sette


Olá.

Estou saindo do gmail e gostaria de sugestões sobre softwares livres que 
possam ser utilizados no lugar.


Até o momento tenho uma VPS rodando postfix (MTA) e dovecot (IMAP). Como 
MUA utilizo evolution no notebook pessoal e a ultima versão estável do 
roundcube como webmail (sendo webmail o mais importante), porém esbarrei 
em três grandes problemas: a visualização de e-mails por tópicos; a 
possibilidade de definir filtros de e-mail que serão aplicados 
independentemente de qual MUA estiver sendo utilizado; ignorar 
mensagens. A visualização por tópicos está presente no roundcube e no 
evolution, embora nao seja o padrão e nem tão boa quanto a do gmail. O 
evolution possibilita ignorar e-mails, mas o roundcube não. Para filtrar 
os e-mails, parece-me que o mais indicado é usar o pigeonhole com sieve 
no dovecot, mas não tenho obtido sucesso em configura-los.


Por último, gostaria de poder por a mão na massa até quando der, mas 
uma software mais bem acabado também é uma opção.


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Migrar do gmail

2014-06-04 Thread Francisco C Soares


On 04-06-2014 15:14, Tobias Sette wrote:

Olá.

Estou saindo do gmail e gostaria de sugestões sobre softwares livres 
que possam ser utilizados no lugar.




Saudações Tobias,

Veja se alguns destes te ajudar...

Webmail:
Afterlogic Webmail Lite - http://www.afterlogic.org/webmail-lite
Mail Pipe - https://www.mailpile.is/

Groupware:
Horde - http://www.horde.org/
Tine20 - https://www.tine20.org/en/home.html

Acredito que o SquirrelMail ( squirrelmail.org 
http://squirrelmail.org/ ) resolveria o seu problema.
Ele tem uma gama de plugins ( squirrelmail.org/plugins.php 
http://squirrelmail.org/plugins.php ) que estende as suas funcionalidades.

Contudo, a UI dele parou no tempo... parece a web dos anos 90... acho eu. =(

Há, não deixe de ver o diretório de plugins do RoundCube, acesse:
http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Plugin_Repository#Availableplugins 
http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Plugin_Repository#Availableplugins


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Alo!!!

2014-06-04 Thread Augusto


Oi


A idéia do DEBIAN (e do LINUX de um modo geral) é bastante simpática 
para mim.


Um S.O. que seja livre, e não dependa de interesses econômicos de 
empresas, muitas vezes, bastante distanciados dos interesses dos usuários.


Infelizmente não temos uma 'distro' brasileira, o que seria o ótimo...

Bom, sou analista de suporte e falo razoavelmente bem o inglês. Caso eu 
queira ajudar, que posso fazer?


Tenho pouco conhecimento de programação... trabalho (ou trabalhei... sou 
aposentado) mais com administração de sistemas.


Acho incrível que, um sistema como o DEBIAN 7.5, do qual baixei os 03 
DVDs, ainda tenha problemas com drivers...


Minha placa de vídeo não funciona pela HDMI... Nada, nem imagem e nem 
som. Eu poria isto no DVD 01... Todos os Drivers...



   Augusto



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Re: Alo!!!

2014-06-04 Thread Daniel Pimentel (d4n1)

Seja bem vindo Augusto!

GNU/Linux é o S.O. livre com maior opções de drivers, o
FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD e outros like Unix tem diversos problemas com
drivers principalmente para Desktop, embora seu suporte seja bastante
específico para servidores. Geralmente quando você compra um PC/Servidor
você deve olhar possível compatibilidade. Atualmente 99% dos drivers rodam
em GNU/Linux, com exeção desse 1% que são drivers bastante novos ou drivers
proprietários (que inclusive as empresas estão liberando binário para
GNU/Linux).

O interessante é você procurar olhar os logs (comando dmesg por exemplo e
no diretório /var/log) para ver o problema, geralmente é configuração. Caso
seja driver mesmo, aconselho atualizar para uma versão mais nova tipo a
versão de testing (futura jessie) ou a unstable (sid, no qual eu uso em
Desktop, em servidores uso o wheezy mesmo por questão de segurança e etc),
não precisa atualizar tudo só adicionar um pacote que não foi lançado para
a versão estável, ou se preferir atualizar e pegar pacotes mais novos. Com
certeza na atualização você terá suporte para mais drivers e recursos.

A versão Jessie (8.0) será lançada somente no próximo ano, geralmente os
tempos de lançamento do Debian são longos, então para Desktop sempre
atualizados aconselho o Jessie ou o Sid mesmo. O Sid, apesar do nome é
bastante estável e diversas distribuições o usa como base.



Em 5 de junho de 2014 01:32, Augusto augustosouza@gmail.com escreveu:

 Oi


 A idéia do DEBIAN (e do LINUX de um modo geral) é bastante simpática para
 mim.

 Um S.O. que seja livre, e não dependa de interesses econômicos de
 empresas, muitas vezes, bastante distanciados dos interesses dos usuários.

 Infelizmente não temos uma 'distro' brasileira, o que seria o ótimo...

 Bom, sou analista de suporte e falo razoavelmente bem o inglês. Caso eu
 queira ajudar, que posso fazer?

 Tenho pouco conhecimento de programação... trabalho (ou trabalhei... sou
 aposentado) mais com administração de sistemas.

 Acho incrível que, um sistema como o DEBIAN 7.5, do qual baixei os 03
 DVDs, ainda tenha problemas com drivers...

 Minha placa de vídeo não funciona pela HDMI... Nada, nem imagem e nem som.
 Eu poria isto no DVD 01... Todos os Drivers...


Augusto



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Applet de monitoração de rede no Mate

2014-06-04 Thread Listeiro 037


Alguém daqui que usa Mate percebeu que não há applet de monitoração
up/down de rede para ser adicionado nos painéis? Ele já não existe ou
há alguma remediação? Grato.

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Re: package recommendation for daily journal

2014-06-04 Thread Rusi Mody

On Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:30:01 PM UTC+5:30, lina wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am looking for a package, which can act as a smart diary or 
 journal to help me remember the records of small things, such as 
 obtain a licensed software, not installed yet, uninstall the 
 harden-client.


emacs' org mode is the killer app for this


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Re: upgrade? broke exim4

2014-06-04 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Tuesday 03 June 2014 22:19:22 Mike McClain wrote:
 PS: I suspect I'm breaking the mail chain but see no choice. I'm
 subscribed to the digest and don't know how to get Webmail to reply
 to the list so am replying to my first message that is in mutt's sent
 mail.

Thread intact here.  Your second post shows correctly as a reply to your 
first.

Lisi


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Re: fastest linux distro

2014-06-04 Thread Chris Bannister

On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:10:53AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
 On Sat, 31 May 2014 17:11:16 +1200
 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
  ... no HDMI cable, doesn't play .webm videos. You have to use youtube-dl
  not 'cclive -s best' to download the video from youtube yielding in
  a 'lower quality' exoerience. Putting all that aside, it's basically
 
 Can you explain? What does cclive do that youtube-dl doesn't?

That is a very open question, but compare the output of

tal% youtube-dl 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh78BO_jhlw'
[youtube] Setting language
[youtube] fh78BO_jhlw: Downloading webpage
[youtube] fh78BO_jhlw: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] fh78BO_jhlw: Extracting video information
[download] Destination: Doctor Down Under EP 1 Thanks for the 
Memory-fh78BO_jhlw.mp4
[download]   0.4% of 95.44MiB at 166.23KiB/s ETA 09:45^C

to

tal% cclive 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh78BO_jhlw'
Checking ... ..  .done.
Doctor Down Under EP 1 Thanks for the Memory.webm  116.56M  [video/webm]

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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

2014-06-04 Thread Darac Marjal

On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 03:50:38PM -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
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From: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:22 AM
Subject: Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies
 
 The advent of apt was a gigantic step forward for Debian. The interplay
between dpkg and apt is still (to me) quite marvellous.
 Get a .deb from somewhere (Skype, for example) and
 
 dpkg -i package
 
 followed by
 
 apt-get -f install
 
 gets everything sorted.
 
The command
 
apt-get -f install
 
means a force install, am I correct?

-f means --fix-broken. It basically stops apt-get choosing the easy
route of uninstalling the package you just installed (Given the choice
of removing one half-installed  package vs pulling in untold new
packages, you can see which is easier).


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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

2014-06-04 Thread Horatio Leragon

 From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

 A note to the OP. Yet you might not be able to understand the syntax of a 
 man(ual)page, but you need to learn it.

How do I learn it? Are there tutorials on how to learn the syntax of a man(ual) 
page?

In any case, I wish to thank you for taking the time to show me how to do basic 
research on the options/parameters of Debian commands.

By the way, is there any particular reason you choose to use startpage instead 
of Google or DuckDuckGo?

Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

2014-06-04 Thread Horatio Leragon

 From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. 
enable internet access)?

 Maybe you need to look at current information.  The blog you reference is 
 over 6 years old.  A lot has changed since then!

Look, how am I supposed to know that Debian commands have changed a lot over 
the course of 6 years?

I read a lot of hype on the internet, telling me that Debian is the most stable 
of all Linux OSes. One of the hallmarks of stability is basic commands do not 
change over time. Take example Microsoft Windows OS. Microsoft Windows XP is 
the most stable OS to come out of Microsoft to date. It is about 12+ years old. 
Have their commands changed since the launch in 2001? No.

 But once again, I forgot.  You refuse to learn.

It's the pot calling the kettle black, Jerry. If I remember it right, you 
refuse to learn to stop being judgmental and stereotyping people.

But I guess it's simply in your nature.

Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies



On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 04:18 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
 How do I learn it?

Learning by doing ;).

$ chown --help
Usage: chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE...
  or:  chown [OPTION]... --reference=RFILE FILE...
[snip]
Examples:
  chown root /uChange the owner of /u to root.
  chown root:staff /u  Likewise, but also change its group to staff.
  chown -hR root /uChange the owner of /u and subfiles to root.

When you learned how to use several commands, you automatically learn
how to interpret something like [OWNER][:[GROUP]]. Sometimes
man(ual)pages and --help gives examples.

 By the way, is there any particular reason you choose to use startpage
 instead of Google or DuckDuckGo?

I don't use DuckDuckGo, because it doesn't provide German search. I
don't use Google or ixquick, because I prefer to get the advantages of
both, by using StartPage ;).



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Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-04 Thread Horatio Leragon

I received a security update advisory [SECURITY] [DSA 2945-1] today.

Package    : chkrootkit
CVE ID : CVE-2014-0476

I am shocked to learn that Debian is vulnerable to rootkits. That's why there's 
a package to check for them.

I switched to Debian from Microsoft Windows OS because of the massive over-hype 
that I read on the internet: that Debian is impervious to malware and no 
viruses have ever infected a *nix OS.


Should I install this package called chkrootkit?

But then it itself is vulnerable to errors in its code :(

Re: package recommendation for daily journal

2014-06-04 Thread Tazman Deville

On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 11:16:51PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
 On Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:30:01 PM UTC+5:30, lina wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am looking for a package, which can act as a smart diary or 
  journal to help me remember the records of small things, such as 
  obtain a licensed software, not installed yet, uninstall the 
  harden-client.
 
 
 emacs' org mode is the killer app for this


Here is a bash script for writing and managing a personal log,
by Tony, who is also on this list.
I'm surprised he didn't mention it himself.
https://github.com/tonybaldwin/mylog

./taz
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Re: upgrade? broke exim4

2014-06-04 Thread Brian

On Tue 03 Jun 2014 at 14:19:22 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:

 Mihamina Rakotomandimby mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org wrote:
  Does your Exim listen on IPv4 localhost?
 
 I think so. At leastwhen I run 'do netstat -tlpn | grep :25', I see:
 tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN  22669/exim4
 until exim4 quits since it can't connect to port 25 leaving this:
 socket bind() to port 25 for address ::1 failed:
 Cannot assign requested address: daemon abandoned
 in /var/log/exim4/paniclog.
 
 Can anyone suggest what's necessary to connect to port 25?
 I've compared a month old backups copy of /etc/* to what's there today
 but see no differences that would account for losing the ability
 to grab email.

You could try:

   rm /var/log/exim4/paniclog

   service exim4 restart


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Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

If you like more uncertainty, you should read about e.g. heartbleed,
Unity Lenses and Hans Reiser ;). You are aware that Linux is from
this planet?


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Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-04 Thread Slavko

Ahoj,

Dňa Wed, 4 Jun 2014 04:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon
hlera...@yahoo.com napísal:

 I am shocked to learn that Debian is vulnerable to rootkits. That's
 why there's a package to check for them.

Yes, there are bad boys on this world, which attempt to compromise
foreign computers. In some countries it a normal government practice.

 I switched to Debian from Microsoft Windows OS because of the massive
 over-hype that I read on the internet: that Debian is impervious to
 malware and no viruses have ever infected a *nix OS.

No, the Unix based systems have they own malware, see above.

 Should I install this package called chkrootkit?

No, you don't need to install it, but without it (or some alternative)
you will never know if some rootkit is in it. To be more complicated,
with this (some of these) package properly installed and used you cannot
be sure too :)

I am not aware about chkrootkit, i am using rkhunter and it is not
intended to install and run on the desktop (specifically on testing),
where are changes too often, because it will reports them.

 But then it itself is vulnerable to errors in its code :(

There is not a software on this world, which has no errors. The
question is not, if there are errors in code, but if:

+ the errors are hidden from users by code unavailability
+ the discovered (known) errors are fixed and how long it takes

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Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-04 Thread David Guyot

Keep calm and carry on, Horatio. Using software, whatever it is, may
expose you to software flaws. It is inherent to software code. Anyone
who really knows Debian, as any Linux distro, will never say that it
is impervious to malware ; instead, he or she will explain you that,
due to its open source nature, Debian is much less prone to such flaws,
because anyone can review the code and find errors and flaws in it, and
all reported bugs are public, as their solving and the work on it. This
allows anyone with sufficient knowledge to inspect other's work to
ensure software stability and reliability. For more details :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software#Comparisons_with_other_software_licensing.2Fdevelopment_models

Anyone saying that Debian and its software are flawless lies or
doesn't know what's he is talking about. If Debian, without any
additional security software and correctly configured, will provide you
a good security level, especially compared to most proprietary OSes
like Window$, it doesn't mean that it is impervious to malware, and
that, if your security is really a concern to you, ie you're a sysadmin
or you have reasons to think you could be a target for software attacks,
additional software like chrootkit may be a good idea to further secure
your system.

Besides the open source nature of Debian, the good security reputation
of *NIX systems in general comes from their structure, especially their
built-in file permission system which allows a much better user isolation.
This feature was a core feature since the beginning, which has not been the
case for Window$, and is a key element to prevent attacks against *NIX
systems. For more details :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_security

Hoping this will help you to understand the situation,

Regards.

Le mercredi 04 juin 2014 à 04:38:45 -0700, Horatio Leragon a écrit:
I received a security update advisory [SECURITY] [DSA 2945-1] today.
Package: chkrootkit
CVE ID : CVE-2014-0476
I am shocked to learn that Debian is vulnerable to rootkits. That's why
there's a package to check for them.
I switched to Debian from Microsoft Windows OS because of the massive
over-hype that I read on the internet: that Debian is impervious to
malware and no viruses have ever infected a *nix OS.
Should I install this package called chkrootkit?
But then it itself is vulnerable to errors in its code :(

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Re: upgrade? broke exim4

2014-06-04 Thread Filip

Mike McClain mike.j...@nethere.com writes:

 Mihamina Rakotomandimby mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org wrote:
 Does your Exim listen on IPv4 localhost?

 I think so. At leastwhen I run 'do netstat -tlpn | grep :25', I see:
 tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN  22669/exim4
 until exim4 quits since it can't connect to port 25 leaving this:
 socket bind() to port 25 for address ::1 failed:
 Cannot assign requested address: daemon abandoned
 in /var/log/exim4/paniclog.

 Can anyone suggest what's necessary to connect to port 25?
 I've compared a month old backups copy of /etc/* to what's there today
 but see no differences that would account for losing the ability
 to grab email.

It tries to bind to the ipv6 adress of the local interface.  

Maybe ipv6 is disabled in your system. Do you see the ::1 address when
you run 'ip addr' ?


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Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 14:24 +0200, Slavko wrote:
 Yes, there are bad boys on this world, which attempt to compromise
 foreign computers. In some countries it a normal government practice.

Yes, AFAIK in Ponyland, aka Friendship Gardens, it's _not_ normal
government practise.

Horatio, please subscribe to
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic too
and please, only reply to the list, you missed to take care about the
reply to the list only commandment.



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When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-04 Thread Prunk Dump

Hello,

Excuse my simple question but I try to understand how the Debian Bug
tracking system works.

My debian wheezy clients are all affected by the following bug in gdm-3.4.1 :

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683338

This bug is marked as Fixed, because it does not appear in gdm-3.8.3-1
witch is in the Debian archive.

This bug is forwarded to the gdm bug tracking system but it was never
fixed in the 3.4.1 version.

My question is when this bug will be fixed on Debian Stable ?
- On the next wheezy release ?
- Never on wheezy, I need to wait for the stable Jessie ?
- When the bug will be fixed by the gdm maintainers in the 3.4.1 version ?


Thanks for your help !

Baptiste.


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Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 14:37 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 14:24 +0200, Slavko wrote:
  Yes, there are bad boys on this world, which attempt to compromise
  foreign computers. In some countries it a normal government practice.
 
 Yes, AFAIK in Ponyland, aka Friendship Gardens, it's _not_ normal
 government practise.
 
 Horatio, please subscribe to
 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic too
 and please, only reply to the list, you missed to take care about the
 reply to the list only commandment.

- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org
(reason: 550-policyd-weight said: Your MTA is listed in too many
DNSBLs; check)

*chuckle*

So I cannot transfer some of Horatio's threads to the off-topic list ;p.



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Re: upgrade? broke exim4

2014-06-04 Thread Curt

On 2014-06-03, Mike McClain mike.j...@nethere.com wrote:
 Howdy,
 I hadn't rebooted since dist-upgrade last January then something
 caused a lockup, no video, no keyboard such that I did a hard power off.
 That was 2 days ago and since I've rebooted exim4 can't connect to
 127.0.0.1:25 hence fetchmail can't transfer inbound mail.
 I've not found any solution on Google that works for me. Exim and
 fetchmail has worked for me for years, since Potato I believe, Debian 2
 something.
 When I run '/etc/init.d/exim4 restart' exim4 writes to
 /var/log/exim4/paniclog,
 socket bind() to port 25 for address ::1 failed: Cannot assign
 requested address: waiting 30s before trying again (9 more tries)
 and finally: daemon abandoned

You do have a loopback interface in /etc/network/interfaces?

 # The loopback network interface
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback

One time, I don't remember how or why it happened, I lost mine somehow
(the loopback interface) and it caused all sorts of delays and problems.

I see you restarted exim4.  I think I read somewhere restarting was
frowned upon (I'm not sure where I read that).

I think you're supposed to stop it (service exim4 stop), then start it again
(service exim4 start). Maybe between stop and start check to make sure
it really died a thorough death (no stale zombies, or whatever they're
called)?


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how to use l2tp-ipsec-vpn ?

2014-06-04 Thread 釋淨明

dear everyone,

i installed l2tp-ipsec-vpn and l2tp-ipsec-vpn-daemon in my debian wheezy
7.5 with gnome3, then i got the l2tp ipsec vpn manager icon in the system
tools category, i double click it and input my root password, after that,
it says:

Failed to run L2tpIpsecVpn 'connectioneditor' 'desktopsession' 'default' as
user root.
The underlying authorization mechanism(sudo) does not allow you to run this
program. Contact the system administrator.

what should i do to fix the problem? thanks.

Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

2014-06-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle


On 6/4/2014 7:29 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote:



*From:* Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net
*To:* debian-user@lists.debian.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:48 AM
*Subject:* Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter
(ie. enable internet access)?

  Maybe you need to look at current information.  The blog you
reference is over 6 years old.  A lot has changed since then!

Look, how am I supposed to know that Debian commands have changed a lot
over the course of 6 years?



YOU aren't.  You refuse to learn.  The rest of us use CURRENT DOCUMENTATION.


I read a lot of hype on the internet, telling me that Debian is the most
stable of all Linux OSes. One of the hallmarks of stability is basic
commands do not change over time. Take example Microsoft Windows OS.
Microsoft Windows XP is the most stable OS to come out of Microsoft to
date. It is about 12+ years old. Have their commands changed since the
launch in 2001? No.



No, that does NOT necessarily mean basic commands do not change over 
time.  That is the hallmark of a stale OS.  Good OS's change as needs 
and resources change.


Stable DOES mean you don't need to update the kernel every six weeks, 
and it doesn't crash every time you turn your back.



  But once again, I forgot.  You refuse to learn.

It's the pot calling the kettle black, Jerry. If I remember it right,
you refuse to learn to stop being judgmental and stereotyping people.

But I guess it's simply in your nature.




Yes, it is in my nature to call a spade a spade.  And you have already 
shown you have little background in Linux, as this post once again 
shows.  Yet you refuse to even attempt to learn the basic knowledge you 
need to even understand how to use Linux.  Instead, you go searching 
forums and mailing lists, expecting people to hand-feed you.


It's not a judgement, and it's not stereotyping.  It is what you have 
shown you are by your words.  The fact you don't like it means nothing 
to me.  I only care about those willing to take responsibility for their 
actions and knowledge.


Jerry


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Re: package recommendation for daily journal

2014-06-04 Thread Curt

On 2014-06-04, Tazman Deville tazmande...@gmx.com wrote:

 Here is a bash script for writing and managing a personal log,
 by Tony, who is also on this list.
 I'm surprised he didn't mention it himself.
 https://github.com/tonybaldwin/mylog

 read -p Shall we have a look in your a browser now? (y/n): 

Shouldn't that be either your (browser) or a (browser)?


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MATE 1.8: issues with sound control

2014-06-04 Thread Ghislain Vaillant

Following the recent announcement of the availability of MATE 1.8 in
Debian, I went ahead and installed it on my Debian unstable install,
alongside GNOME 3. Performance is great and I am seriously considering
switching my old workstations to it.

Amongst the issues I encountered, one concerns the sound controls or sound
applet which does nothing but move the filler bar, but do not raise or
lower the sound. I have to use the controls within the sound preference app
(Master and/or PCM) to get control over the sound. Meanwhile, the sound
controls and applet work fine in GNOME 3.

Anyone else facing this issue ? Any thoughts on a possible solution ?

Ghis

serious system slow down when adjusting brightness on a Dell E6440 laptop

2014-06-04 Thread Ghislain Vaillant

I am running Debian unstable with GNOME 3 and MATE 1.8 on a Dell Latitude
E6440 laptop. In both, brightness controls (Fn + up/down) systematically
put the system to a crawl. This is even more pronounced in MATE 1.8, where
the energy saving settings are much more aggressive and keep switching
between full and low screen brightness when the laptop is idle.

Anyone suffering from a similar issue ?

Ghis

Re: MATE 1.8: issues with sound control

2014-06-04 Thread Matthias Fraidl

On 04.06.2014 17:34, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
 Any thoughts on a possible solution ?

I had the same issues!
Go and try volti[1], it worked fine for me.
(apt-get install volti)

cheers,
matthias

[1] https://code.google.com/p/volti/
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bridges with multiple static IPs or DHPC - how to configure?

2014-06-04 Thread Steffen Dettmer

Hi,

how to configure a bridge with multiple static IPs and/or DHPC
via /etc/network/interfaces?

I tried many combinations, but I didn't find any working one.

Of course everything works as expected when configuring manually
with ip, brctl etc.

Any working example would be great!

The rest of the mail discusses what I tried so far.

Yes, I read man bridge-utils-interfaces(5), but it has simple
examples only (single static IP or no IP). The man page tells,
interfaces used as bridge_ports

   are the  interfaces  that  are  part  of  the  bridge,  and
   they shouldn't  have  any  stanzas defining them on the
   interfaces file  -- man bridge-utils-interfaces(5)

but this is wrong. There must be a stanza like

  auto eth3.14
iface eth3.14 inet manual

otherwise no bridge can use it any only gives an error message
like interface eth3.14 does not exist!.

For an ordinary ethernet interface, the following works:

  auto eth3.10
  iface eth3.10 inet static
address 10.72.9.17
netmask 255.255.255.248
  iface eth3.10 inet static
address 10.72.9.25
netmask 255.255.255.248

For bridges, it is not clear how to use multiple stanzas for
multiple IPs; it seems, the options to create the bridge and to
add IPs to it are somehow mixed.
There are options like bridge_ports. They have to be in each
iface br0 stanza?

  (Experiments show that bridge_ports are accumulated (probably
  simply because each stanza brctl addif each, in total producing
  the desired result), but other options such as bridge_maxwait
  are not.)

The same approach as for Ethernet does not work for Bridges:

  iface br1 inet static
address 10.1.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.248
bridge_ports eth3.10
bridge_maxwait 0
  iface br1 inet static
address 10.1.1.9
netmask 255.255.255.248
bridge_ports eth3.11
bridge_ports eth3.12
bridge_maxwait 0

This adds all interfaces to br1, but only the IP address from the
last block.

It is similar when it comes to DHCP.

For an ordinary ethernet interface, the following works:

  allow-hotplug eth1
  iface eth1 inet static
address 10.72.9.33
netmask 255.255.255.248
  iface eth1 inet dhcp

(I cannot use auto eth1, because system boots must never block)

The same approach as for Ethernet does not work for Bridges:

  iface br1 inet static
address 10.1.1.9
netmask 255.255.255.248
bridge_ports eth3.11
bridge_ports eth3.12
  iface br1 inet dhcp
bridge_ports eth3.13

Again, the static IP address is missing.

Also experiments show, that bridge_maxwait does not work with dhcp:

iface br1 inet dhcp
  bridge_ports eth3.13
  bridge_maxwait 0

this blocks.

Probably I miss a simple detail, please help me. Any working
examples appreciated!

Regards,
Steffen


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High %wa, irregular blocking

2014-06-04 Thread b-misc

Hi,

Some weeks ago I installed Testing on my wife's iMac [1] from 2008.
Unfortunately it has one issue:

There are irregular periods of very high %wa, maybe 3-5 times per hour, not
directly related to a certain user action. They last for some seconds up to
even a minute or so and render the machine unusable for that time. top shows %wa
of 80 or 90%, load can go up to 9 on this dual core machine, iotop shows only a
few KB/s.

I already added pcie_aspm=off to the boot options which seems to help,
but I still see this I/O hangs (without, I had about 10+ hangs per hour).

Any idea what could cause these blockings? How can I find out more? I use Linux
for 15+ years but I never saw such things... and I want to show my
wife, that Linux is the better OS, of course... ;-)

Aside from that issue everything runs quite nicely.

Thanks  best regards,
Bernd

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Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-04 Thread Slavko

Ahoj,

Dňa Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:44:17 +0200 Prunk Dump prunkd...@gmail.com
napísal:

 My question is when this bug will be fixed on Debian Stable ?
 - On the next wheezy release ?
 - Never on wheezy, I need to wait for the stable Jessie ?
 - When the bug will be fixed by the gdm maintainers in the 3.4.1
 version ?

By my knowledge, to the stable will be applied only security fixes.

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Re: bridges with multiple static IPs or DHPC - how to configure?

2014-06-04 Thread Bzzz

On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:00:49 +0200
Steffen Dettmer steffen.dett...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried many combinations, but I didn't find any working one.

From what I understand, bridge act as a too low level
to do what you want.

However, I was able to add another I/F to my own bridge
(br0 basically aggregates eth0  wlan0 under 192.168.1.200)
using this syntax:

ifconfig br0:1 192.168.1.201

…
br0   Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:66:16:bc:85  
  inet addr:192.168.1.200  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::219:66ff:fe16:bc85/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:11806935 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:8818044 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:13733814175 (12.7 GiB)  TX bytes:3826222577 (3.5 GiB)

br0:1 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:66:16:bc:85  
  inet addr:192.168.1.201  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
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Re: bridges with multiple static IPs or DHPC - how to configure?

2014-06-04 Thread Curt

On 2014-06-04, Steffen Dettmer steffen.dett...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 how to configure a bridge with multiple static IPs and/or DHPC
 via /etc/network/interfaces?

 I tried many combinations, but I didn't find any working one.


You looked here already?

https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections


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Re: MATE 1.8: issues with sound control

2014-06-04 Thread lostson


On 06/04/2014 12:19 PM, Matthias Fraidl wrote:
 On 04.06.2014 17:34, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
 Any thoughts on a possible solution ?
 
 I had the same issues!
 Go and try volti[1], it worked fine for me.
 (apt-get install volti)
 
 cheers,
 matthias
 
 [1] https://code.google.com/p/volti/
 


 What kind of soundcard do you have, I am running mate on 5 different
machines, some using pulsaudio some not and have not had this issue at
all. Now I don't have gnome3 installed on any of these machines so maybe
that is the difference here.

LostSon



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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
 Horatio Leragon wrote:

 #dhcpcd eth0

 There isn't a dhcpcd command in Debian. You must be using a
 different system with the above notes.

It's created via the alternatives system by the dhcpcd/dhcpcd5 postinsts.


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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com wrote:
 From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com

 On Debian that would be isc-dhcp-client.

 The writer of the guide states that it (the guide) is for Debian users. And
 you're telling me he's wrong.

 I'm really confused.

 I think I need a second opinion.

You're easily confused.

The default dhcp client on Debian is dhclient which is provided by
isc-dhcp-client, previously dhcp3-client.

I doubt that dhcp3-client has ever provided dhcpcd, even in 2008. So
that debianist notes page is incorrect. I'd trust Bob if I were you;
especially since it's MORONIC to define an interface in
/etc/network/interfaces and then advise a user to acquire an ip
address with a dhcp client rather than with ifup or service.


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Re: bridges with multiple static IPs or DHPC - how to configure?

2014-06-04 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen

Hi

On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 08:00:49PM +0200, Steffen Dettmer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 how to configure a bridge with multiple static IPs and/or DHPC
 via /etc/network/interfaces?
 
 I tried many combinations, but I didn't find any working one.
 
 Of course everything works as expected when configuring manually
 with ip, brctl etc.
 
 Any working example would be great!
 
 The rest of the mail discusses what I tried so far.
 
 Yes, I read man bridge-utils-interfaces(5), but it has simple
 examples only (single static IP or no IP). The man page tells,
 interfaces used as bridge_ports
 
are the  interfaces  that  are  part  of  the  bridge,  and
they shouldn't  have  any  stanzas defining them on the
interfaces file  -- man bridge-utils-interfaces(5)
 
 but this is wrong. There must be a stanza like
 
   auto eth3.14
 iface eth3.14 inet manual

Hm... this is VLAN 14 on eth3
 
 otherwise no bridge can use it any only gives an error message
 like interface eth3.14 does not exist!.

Hm. have you got the vlan package installed?

But anyway: When you bridge interfaces together, the IP addresses
should be assigned to the *bridge*, not the interfaces that join the
bridge.  At least that's what I've been told.

 For an ordinary ethernet interface, the following works:
 
   auto eth3.10
   iface eth3.10 inet static
 address 10.72.9.17
 netmask 255.255.255.248
   iface eth3.10 inet static
 address 10.72.9.25
 netmask 255.255.255.248
 
 For bridges, it is not clear how to use multiple stanzas for
 multiple IPs; it seems, the options to create the bridge and to
 add IPs to it are somehow mixed.

Hm.. it doesn't complain about having multiple stanzas with the name
iface !?  (I'm surprised here, so I may well learn something)

 There are options like bridge_ports. They have to be in each
 iface br0 stanza?
 
   (Experiments show that bridge_ports are accumulated (probably
   simply because each stanza brctl addif each, in total producing
   the desired result), but other options such as bridge_maxwait
   are not.)

Good.

 The same approach as for Ethernet does not work for Bridges:
 
   iface br1 inet static
 address 10.1.1.1
 netmask 255.255.255.248
 bridge_ports eth3.10
 bridge_maxwait 0
   iface br1 inet static
 address 10.1.1.9
 netmask 255.255.255.248
 bridge_ports eth3.11
 bridge_ports eth3.12
 bridge_maxwait 0
 
 This adds all interfaces to br1, but only the IP address from the
 last block.

And you're bridging VLANs 10,11 and 12. Very unusual. If the VLANs
should be bridged, this is usually done on the switch...

 It is similar when it comes to DHCP.

Using a DHCP address on a bridge interface is .. unusual. But I guess
there must be use cases where it is valid.

E.g. a laptop which runs virtual machines (which are connected to the
bridge), because the virtual machines need to be in the same network?
I almost do this, but I decided to let the bridge interface be
unattached - i.e. the laptop *routes* traffic from the virtual
machines to the outside world via normal routing (and NAT where
appropriate).  This way, the virtual machines don't need to know about
me moving from one LAN to another.

I'd suggest something like this:

# ---8-- cut here ---8---
auto br0
iface br0 inet dhcp
  bridge-ports eth3
  post-up ip address add 10.1.1.1/24 dev br0
  post-up ip address add 10.1.1.9/24 dev br0
# ---8-- cut here ---8---

or alternatively:

# ---8-- cut here ---8---
auto br0:
iface br0 inet dhcp
  bridge-ports eth3
auto br0:1
iface br0:1
  address 10.1.1.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0
auto br0:2
iface br0:2
  address 10.1.1.9
  netmask 255.255.255.0
# ---8-- cut here ---8---

which should give the bridge 3 IP addresses: One assigned by DHCP as
well as 10.1.1.1 and 10.1.1.9.

I assume you only want ONE IP address from DHCP :-) If you want more
than that, we're really wandering into unknown territory.

In general, I suspect that you are confusing VLANs with IP aliasing:

- VLANs is a way of creating multiple (virtual and independent)
  networks on the same underlying network. This is accomplished by
  VLAN tagging - there are 10 bits reserved in the IP headers for
  this, allowing up to 4096 VLANs).  Linux represents each VLAN on the
  hardware interface as a separate network device using the
  dot-notation, e.g. eth0.1, eth0.2 etc.  Other notations are
  possible, but us poor puny humans are easily confused.

- IP Aliasing is a way of allowing a device to have multiple IP
  addresses on the same VLAN.  This is usually done via the colon
  notation - e.g. eth0:1, eth0:2 etc.

VLANs usually do not apply in a residential setting.  But if you're a
geek (and your switch supports it), feel free to play away on it.

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Re: interpreting Gkrellm charts

2014-06-04 Thread Gary Roach


On 06/01/2014 11:51 AM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 01/06/14 02:20 PM, Curt wrote:

On 2014-06-01, Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote:

Curious. I noticed that nepomuk-server and dolphin both had a number of
zombie processes (around 16 each) attached. I killed the parent
processes then did a reinstall of dolphin and libnepomukcore4.
Nepomuk-server isn't running but I did restart dolphin. No current
zombie processes after a couple of hours and no slowdowns either.


Quite a few hits (bugs and threads) when you do an NSA-compatible google
search for high cpu usage with nepomuk.
Probably, but getting to nepomuk is the hard part. Besides, I wasn't 
having high CPU usage. Whatever the load stats showed, it wasn't CPU 
or memory use. And the high disk i/o didn't show as being caused by 
nepomuk or any other process.



I just recently re-installed  my Debian Wheezy system to upgrade to a 64 
bit system ( mistakenly installed 32 bit the first time). I use KDE as 
well. After installation, the KDE System Monitor showed all 4 of my 
processors at near 100% capacity. Almost all of the load was due to 
nepomuk. I read that this could take some time to settle out and let 
things run over night. The next morning my 500 GB hard drive was full. 
Of what I don't know. Purging KDE and reinstalling KDE-Full solved the 
problem. I still don't know what actually happened but suspect a bug in 
nepomuk-server.


Gary R.


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Re: High %wa, irregular blocking

2014-06-04 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen

Hi

On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 08:49:44AM +0200, b-m...@gmx.ch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Some weeks ago I installed Testing on my wife's iMac [1] from 2008.
 Unfortunately it has one issue:
 
 There are irregular periods of very high %wa, maybe 3-5 times per hour, not
 directly related to a certain user action. They last for some seconds up to
 even a minute or so and render the machine unusable for that time. top shows 
 %wa
 of 80 or 90%, load can go up to 9 on this dual core machine, iotop shows only 
 a
 few KB/s.

High wait-for-IO combined with very little disk throughput usually
points towards disk problems...

Anything interesting from e.g. iostat -kNx ? That should tell you
which disk and partition is suffering. (Or if you already think you
know, this should confirm it)

 
 I already added pcie_aspm=off to the boot options which seems to help,
 but I still see this I/O hangs (without, I had about 10+ hangs per hour).
 
 Any idea what could cause these blockings? How can I find out more? I use 
 Linux
 for 15+ years but I never saw such things... and I want to show my
 wife, that Linux is the better OS, of course... ;-)

My first call would be the kernel logs.  IIRC in the default syslog
config this goes to /var/log/kern.log, but you can see the most recent
output with e.g. dmesg or dmesg -T

Combine this with the disk-related snippets from /var/log/dmesg (which
has the kernel output from boot) and you may see further clues...

Which kernel are you using? Stock kernel, or self-compiled? 32bit?
64bit?

The firmware version may also be relevant here.

 
 Aside from that issue everything runs quite nicely.
 
 Thanks  best regards,
 Bernd
 
 [1] iMac 8,1: 2008, Core 2 Duo 2.8 GHz, GB RAM, 500 GB WD HDD, ATI Radeon HD
 2600 PRO (PCIe)

Looks similar to this one? http://www.odi.ch/prog/macbookpro/#3

Hope this helps
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Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-04 Thread Bob Holtzman

On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 04:38:45AM -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
 I received a security update advisory [SECURITY] [DSA 2945-1] today.
 
 Package    : chkrootkit
 CVE ID : CVE-2014-0476
 

Assuming what you wrote isn't tongue in cheek, and from most of your
posts it may not be a good assumption:

 I am shocked to learn that Debian is vulnerable to rootkits. That's why 
 there's a package to check for them.

Why are you shocked?

 
 I switched to Debian from Microsoft Windows OS because of the massive 
 over-hype that I read on the internet: that Debian is impervious to malware 
 and no viruses have ever infected a *nix OS.

Where did you read this, and don't say the internet? Be specific. No
knowledgeable source would ever say that Debian is impervious to malware
and no viruses have ever infected a *nix OS. There isn't an OS in
existence that is *completely* impervious to malware and there are
plenty of *nixes that have been infected. Ask any sysadmin who's been in
the business for more than 6 months.

*I'm* the one who's shocked that a statement like that didn't raise a
red flag.

BTW you would be well served to read this site:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 

I'm surprised that you haven't been steered to it before, way before.

 
 
 Should I install this package called chkrootkit?
 
 But then it itself is vulnerable to errors in its code :(

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Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 14:18 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
 BTW you would be well served to read this site:
 
 http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 
 
 I'm surprised that you haven't been steered to it before, way before.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg00185.html

;)



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Re: package recommendation for daily journal

2014-06-04 Thread Tony Baldwin

On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 01:47:47PM +, Curt wrote:
 On 2014-06-04, Tazman Deville tazmande...@gmx.com wrote:
 
  Here is a bash script for writing and managing a personal log,
  by Tony, who is also on this list.
  I'm surprised he didn't mention it himself.
  https://github.com/tonybaldwin/mylog
 
  read -p Shall we have a look in your a browser now? (y/n): 
 
 Shouldn't that be either your (browser) or a (browser)?
 
Just pushed a correction to the github.
thanks
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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

2014-06-04 Thread Bob Holtzman

On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:15:13AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

  ...snip...
 
 Yes, it is in my nature to call a spade a spade.  And you have
 already shown you have little background in Linux, 

It's not only linux he has no background in. That's forgivable. More 
importantly it's self sufficiency he seems to have no background in, 
ie not having a mentor at his beck and call. 

  ...snip...
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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

2014-06-04 Thread Bob Holtzman

On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 01:16:26AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 snip
 
 Before You Ask
 
 Before asking a technical question by e-mail, or in a newsgroup, or on a
 website chat board, do the following:
 
 1. Try to find an answer by searching the archives of the forum you plan
 to post to.
 
 2. Try to find an answer by searching the Web.
 
 3. Try to find an answer by reading the manual.
 
 4. Try to find an answer by reading a FAQ.
 
 5. Try to find an answer by inspection or experimentation. -
 http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Ralph, I think your wasting bandwidth on this guy. He's been told this
more than once yet he comes back with another question that can be
answered with a search. 

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Re: bridges with multiple static IPs or DHPC - how to configure?

On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Steffen Dettmer
steffen.dett...@gmail.com wrote:


 how to configure a bridge with multiple static IPs and/or DHPC
 via /etc/network/interfaces?

 I tried many combinations, but I didn't find any working one.

 Of course everything works as expected when configuring manually
 with ip, brctl etc.

Can you post your manual configuration?

(By the way, you don't need brctl; ip link can create bridges.)


 Any working example would be great!

 The rest of the mail discusses what I tried so far.

 Yes, I read man bridge-utils-interfaces(5), but it has simple
 examples only (single static IP or no IP). The man page tells,
 interfaces used as bridge_ports

are the  interfaces  that  are  part  of  the  bridge,  and
they shouldn't  have  any  stanzas defining them on the
interfaces file  -- man bridge-utils-interfaces(5)

 but this is wrong. There must be a stanza like

   auto eth3.14
 iface eth3.14 inet manual

 otherwise no bridge can use it any only gives an error message
 like interface eth3.14 does not exist!.

I suspect that the bridge-utils-interfaces man page refers to physical
interfaces. You might want to file an RFE bug for it to work for
vlan-tagged interfaces so that:

iface br0.100
bridge_ports eth0.100

creates and brings up eth0.100 and br0, as well as br0.100.


 For an ordinary ethernet interface, the following works:

   auto eth3.10
   iface eth3.10 inet static
 address 10.72.9.17
 netmask 255.255.255.248
   iface eth3.10 inet static
 address 10.72.9.25
 netmask 255.255.255.248

 For bridges, it is not clear how to use multiple stanzas for
 multiple IPs; it seems, the options to create the bridge and to
 add IPs to it are somehow mixed.
 There are options like bridge_ports. They have to be in each
 iface br0 stanza?

   (Experiments show that bridge_ports are accumulated (probably
   simply because each stanza brctl addif each, in total producing
   the desired result), but other options such as bridge_maxwait
   are not.)

 The same approach as for Ethernet does not work for Bridges:

   iface br1 inet static
 address 10.1.1.1
 netmask 255.255.255.248
 bridge_ports eth3.10
 bridge_maxwait 0
   iface br1 inet static
 address 10.1.1.9
 netmask 255.255.255.248
 bridge_ports eth3.11
 bridge_ports eth3.12
 bridge_maxwait 0

 This adds all interfaces to br1, but only the IP address from the
 last block.

I can't see the above working. When I've bridged vlan-tagged
interfaces, I've used one bridge per vlan.

If you want to add more than one ip address to an untagged bridge.

This might work:

iface br0 inet static
address 10.1.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.248
gateway 10.1.1.254
bridge_ports eth0
bridge_ports eth1

iface br0 inet static
address 10.1.1.2
netmask 255.255.255.248
gateway 10.1.1.254
bridge_ports eth0
bridge_ports eth1

And this will work:

iface br0 inet static
address 10.1.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.248
gateway 10.1.1.254
bridge_ports eth0
bridge_ports eth1
up ip addr add 10.1.1.2/29 dev br0
down ip addr del 10.1.1.2/29 dev br0


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