Re: wheezy to testing

2015-03-14 Thread Bob Proulx
James wrote:
 I'm trying to upgrade wheezy to testing.
 I am following the instructions at:
 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie

The first problem is that you are not using the official release
notes.  Start with the official release notes and follow the
directions there.

  https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes

This is the particular step you are missing:

  
https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrade-process

 Does anyone know why?

It is rather a pet peeve of mine, sorry, but reading random things
people write on the Internet is rather like listening to random drunk
people talk in a pub.  Sure some of them do actually say things that
make sense, especially if you have had a few yourself first.  But
often they don't too.  And so I always wonder why people go to
stackexchange.com for Debian information instead of going to
debian.org for Debian information.  This truly is a mystery to me.

In any case, to add my random voice to the random sounds of people on
the Internet I suggest you look at the non-official but very useful
redirector.  The .net indicates that it isn't an official Debian
project resource.  The .net namespace is where Debian Developers try
out new things and see how they do.  This one is gaining in use and
may become official one day.  In any case you are wanting to use
Testing already so this is a perfect match for you.

  http://http.debian.net/

Using the redirector your complete /etc/apt/sources.list file for
Debian Wheezy 7 would be this for anywhere in the world.  The
portability of these addresses make the redirector much easier to
document.

  deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main contrib non-free
  deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
  deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and replace the entire contents
with the above.  Then apt-get update to load the new sources.  If
you see any errors go find the errors and fix the typos.

I suggest never using testing but sticking with the release name
jessie in this case just as I have done above.  The normal lifecycle
of testing is that right now it is in freeze.  It is very good and
reliable right now.  But after release it will be unfrozen.  Then it
will become quite the wild ride again for a while as all of the
backlog of upgrades flow through it.  Best to stick with Jessie
through the first few months after the unfreeze.  Come back to Testing
after the main thrash has passed through if you want.

It also pains me to suggest adding contrib and non-free to the list.
But you already had it in your original list.  And as a practical
matter there are drivers and documentation there that are needed.

Don't forget the minimul system upgrade step first.  But also read the
rest of the document too.

  
https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade

Bob


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Re: can't start kde in Jessie

2015-03-14 Thread James



On 03/14/2015 05:38 PM, James wrote:

I upgraded to Jessie and now I can't boot into kde.
I get the normal X login and I pick the kde session and it starts to 
start kde, something flashes on the screen and I go back to the X login.

I can boot into a console.
I found this in /var/lib/daemon.log:

console-kit-daemon[1707]: (process:4047): GLib-CRITICAL **: 
g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed


I also noticed the caps lock light on my keyboard doesn't work.

I'm going to try a simple DM.



WM :-)
icewm got me graphics.

My caps lock light works in X.


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Re: locale problems

2015-03-14 Thread Frank

On 03/14/2015 07:02 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Frank wrote:


Is this what should be in /etc/default/locale ??



Seems strange.


Not strange.  Unfamiliar maybe.  This file replaced the same use of it
in the /etc/environment file.  And there have been other attempts as
well.  I expect it will go away in the future and be replaced with yet
another configuration.


The easiest way to fix it is this way:

   # dpkg-reconfigure locales
[...configure en_US.UTF-8 for generation and select None for the
system locale...]



   Did that Bob and selected None.


And what are the new contents of /etc/default/locale?

   cat /etc/default/locale



root@frank-debian:/home/frank# cat /etc/default/locale
#LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Unexpected..I thought it would be empty ?





I expect they will have nothing but comments there now.  It is always
good to verify actions like this.

At that point if it isn't too much inconvenience then I would
reboot.  Because that would ensure that all of the running daemons of
the system get the new setting.



Will do.



For example cron was previously

started using the old setting.  It is still running.  It won't get the
new setting until it is restarted.  You could restart it manually.
But there is always one more forgotten daemon.  A reboot guarentees
that everything is restarted using the new setting.


   Hope that fixes it...but I am still wondering about the
content of /etc/default/locale ??


That file sets the locale for all of the daemons at boot time.  The
default is the traditional Unix language.  If you set None then it
will be as all Unix machines have always been.

With that file you are instructing a different locale / language.  For
example a French speaking admin might prefer system messages logged in
French and might set fr_FR.UTF-8 so that /var/log/syslog is in their
native language.

This has advantages and disadvantages.  Messages in the standard POSIX
C locale are easier to search for in Google.  Messages localized won't
have as much discussion about it.  But any discussion found would
likely be in the native language.  I personally think it is better to
keep to the POSIX standard language.  Searching is easier.  Discussion
is centralized.  But that doesn't work if you don't speak the
language.  The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca of the
computer system world at this time is the POSIX C locale.


Thanks for the detailed reply.


Happy to help!

Bob




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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-14 Thread Joris Bolsens

 I have a guide on my website[1] for setting up Postfix that is secure.
 If you google, you'll find many more for different configurations[2].
 Use them as guides and review the documentation on the proper
 Postfix/Exim/etc websites and man pages.
 
I'll give it a look then, awesome :D

Anything else I could do with this server? :p

Really just looking for some fun projects to keep me busy and keep the
server busy so I don't feel like I'm wasting money on hosting costs.

~Joris



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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Juan Carlos Rebate
no no, no considero que el nav de google sea el mas seguro de hecho no
lo uso, uso firefox, a lo que voy esque las nuevas medidas antihakeo
de google bloquean clientes de escritorio como outlook o thunderbird,
y sinceramente no me arriesgo a desactivarla, que mas da que sea
encima o debajo? lo importante es leer, preguntar y responder nada
mas,ami me preguntaron sobre mi hardware y respondi, ahora desviais el
tema a google

El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 20:19, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola.

 El 14 de marzo de 2015, 12:49, Juan Carlos Rebate fhuv...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 si leyeras las notificaciones de seguridad de google leerias que
 outlook evolution y thunderbird están bloqueadas por google pr estar
 consideradas poco seguras, existe una opción en ecurity.google.com que
 permite desactivar esto y ahi si permite uarlas pero no se recomienda,
 leelo y veras


 Por favor disculpa pero me parece entender que tu confías en lo que la gente
 de google te dice, es decir que otros clientes de correo son inseguros.

 Algunas preguntas:

 ¿Se te ha ocurrido pensar que es probable que el _único_ navegador 100%
 seguro sea google chrome? De allí que te sugieran que veas tus correos email
 con SUS herramientas.

 (Te lo dicen aquí: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=es)

 Si le preguntaras a Billy Gates ¿Qué sistema operativo es mas seguro, Mac
 OS, ZOs, GNU/Linux (cualquier sabor que escojas), Unix (cualquier sabor que
 escojas), o Windows, Cuál crees tu que sería la respuesta?

 ¿Te has tomado la molestia de averiguar cuáles son los puntos, que según el
 criterio de la gente de google, permiten determinar que hay vulnerabilidades
 en el cliente de correo que tu quisiera usar? ¿En realidad existe tal
 riesgo?

 En lo personal estoy usando gmail desde que nació y si mal no recuerdo (eso
 fue hace mucho, mucho tiempo, en una galaxia lejana.) me parece que el
 cliente de correo de mozilla para ese entonces venía integrado como una
 característica del navegador, al igual que el calendario.  Bueno en realidad
 lo pertinente es que _jamás_ he tenido problemas de seguridad.

 Sugerencia:  Comprueba lo que te digan antes de opinar (siempre que esto sea
 posible, claro)

 Saludos.




 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 18:07, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
  El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:41:35 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:
 
  respondo como permite gmail,
 
  Eso no es cierto.
 
  no lo hago a proposito,
 
  Yo diría que sí, o sencillamente que deberías preocuparte de buscar la
  opción para cambiarlo porque existir, existe.
 
  no puedo usar evolution ni ningun otro cliente por lo de las
  aplicaciones menos seguras,
 
  Eso no tiene ningún sentido, lo siento.
 
  no voy a desactivar la seguridad de google para que me hackeen,
 
  Esto tiene menos sentido aún. No tienes que desactivar nada de Gmail
  para
  mandar los correos a la lista en la forma adecuada.
 
  por lo tanto solo puedo usar la app de google y no tengo culpa de como
  trata los coreos.
 
  Pues lo siento pero el formato de tus correos no es correcto y si no
  quieres corregirlo poco más puedo hacer :-(
 
  Saludos,
 
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Re: locale problems

2015-03-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Frank wrote:
 Sorry sent this to Bob instead of the list. Getting old :)

We are all getting old.  And at the same rate too! :-)

 Bob Proulx wrote:
 Somewhere along the way you have set the default system locale to one
 that doesn't exist.  What is the value stored here:
 
cat /etc/default/locale
 
 Is that a valid locale on your system?
 
 frank@frank-debian:~$ cat /etc/default/locale
 LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8

Seems a valid combination.  But does that mean that you haven't
generated the en_US.UTF-8 locale on your system?  That is the only
thing I can think of.  In which case you will have repaired it by the
dpkg-reconfigure if you ensured that en_US.UTF-8 was one of the
selections from the muti-select list.

 Is this what should be in /etc/default/locale ??

Saying should invokes an opinion.  My opinion is that it should
not. :-)  But that is only my preference.  The file exists to configure
the system.  If there were no other valid options then it wouldn't
need a configuration file.  :-)  Other people may very well prefer
system messages in their native language.  Therefore the system is
designed to allow admins to configure their system for other
languages.  Other things are definitely valid in that file.

 Seems strange.

Not strange.  Unfamiliar maybe.  This file replaced the same use of it
in the /etc/environment file.  And there have been other attempts as
well.  I expect it will go away in the future and be replaced with yet
another configuration.

 The easiest way to fix it is this way:
 
# dpkg-reconfigure locales
  [...configure en_US.UTF-8 for generation and select None for the
  system locale...]

   Did that Bob and selected None.

And what are the new contents of /etc/default/locale?

  cat /etc/default/locale

I expect they will have nothing but comments there now.  It is always
good to verify actions like this.

At that point if it isn't too much inconvenience then I would
reboot.  Because that would ensure that all of the running daemons of
the system get the new setting.  For example cron was previously
started using the old setting.  It is still running.  It won't get the
new setting until it is restarted.  You could restart it manually.
But there is always one more forgotten daemon.  A reboot guarentees
that everything is restarted using the new setting.

   Hope that fixes it...but I am still wondering about the
 content of /etc/default/locale ??

That file sets the locale for all of the daemons at boot time.  The
default is the traditional Unix language.  If you set None then it
will be as all Unix machines have always been.

With that file you are instructing a different locale / language.  For
example a French speaking admin might prefer system messages logged in
French and might set fr_FR.UTF-8 so that /var/log/syslog is in their
native language.

This has advantages and disadvantages.  Messages in the standard POSIX
C locale are easier to search for in Google.  Messages localized won't
have as much discussion about it.  But any discussion found would
likely be in the native language.  I personally think it is better to
keep to the POSIX standard language.  Searching is easier.  Discussion
is centralized.  But that doesn't work if you don't speak the
language.  The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca of the
computer system world at this time is the POSIX C locale.

 Thanks for the detailed reply.

Happy to help!

Bob


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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-14 Thread Ric Moore

On 03/14/2015 06:38 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote:

Hey all,

I've got a smallish Debian server that I'm currently not really using
for anything.
At the moment I have it as my own imagehost, general fileserver, vpn,
and a pastebin like thing.

What are some cool/fun/weird things you use your servers for?


You could give Proxmox a whirl!! Then install Turnkey Linux containers 
to it. I'm a perfect idiot and had containers like Wordpress and 
Owncloud running in no time. Since proxmox is headless, you need a 
machine on the same localnet to ssh in to admin Proxmox. Then you admin 
it through your browser with an https interface to load the containers. 
Way cool. Ric

http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
https://www.proxmox.com/


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Re: construire une série de paquets interdépendants

2015-03-14 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 14 Mar 2015 23:53:37 +0100
mrr mire...@free.fr a écrit:

 On 03/14/2015 07:00 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:
  xfce4-settings dépend de upower = 0.99 qui dépend de glib2.0 = 2.36 qui
  dépend de python = 2.7.5 qui dépend de dpkg = 1.17.11 et c'est là que le
  problème arrive car lors du configure il y a une erreur car le gcc 4.7 ne
  connait pas l'option stack-protector-strong donc il faudrait mettre gcc à
  jour mais pour installer gcc 4.9 il faut dpkg-dev = 1.17.11 ...
 
 Le configure, c'est avant la compilation, on est d'accord?
 Et l'erreur serait la cause de la lenteur mais n’empêcherait pas pour 
 autant l'installation, c'est ça ou je m'égare encore?
 Curieux!

Non, tu t'égares encore. :)
La lenteur c'est lors de l'installation de n'importe quel paquet.
Le problème de compilation c'est le truc sur lequel je bloque actuellement
pour pouvoir poursuivre la construction des paquets XFCE 4.12.

 
 Peut être que tu serais gagnant à vérifier ton CFLAGS lors de la 
 compilation, et virer le cas échéant cette option.
 Et vérifier le makefile.
 
 Sinon, je cède la main, je vois pas trop à part:
 - Bien sûr changer les options du configure (j'imagine que t'as déjà du 
 essayer), ou dans les évidents on a bien sûr passer sur une jessie.

Je me contente de tenter de compiler les paquets XFCE d'experimental. Je ne
définis donc pas CFLAG ni ne modifie le Makefile.
Pour le passage à Jessie je ne suis pas encore chaud pour la machine que je
vise. :)

 - Aller voir le site de linux from scratch, ils sont fort pour tout 
 compiler.

Mais ça ne va pas me faire des paquets debian ?

 - Aller farfouiller le code et trouver à quoi correspond ce 
 stack-protector-strong dans 4.9 et voir si on peut fainter dans 4.7 (bon 
 courage).

Tout ce que je sais c'est que c'est une option qui existe en 4.9 et pas en 4.7.

 
 Je repasse si j'ai une idée.
 

Merci.

Gaëtan

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Re: locale problems

2015-03-14 Thread David Wright
Quoting Frank (debianl...@videotron.ca):
 On 03/14/2015 04:03 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Frank wrote:
 The past few days I've been getting mail from anacron
 about errors like this:
 
 /etc/cron.daily/man-db:
 /usr/bin/mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
 
 Somewhere along the way you have set the default system locale to one
 that doesn't exist.  What is the value stored here:
 
cat /etc/default/locale
 
 Is that a valid locale on your system?
 
 
 frank@frank-debian:~$ cat /etc/default/locale
 LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
 
 Is this what should be in /etc/default/locale ??

Not at all.
Here's a US wheezy:

$ cat /etc/default/locale
#  File generated by update-locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
$

and a UK wheezy→jessie:

$ cat /etc/default/locale
#  File generated by update-locale
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
$

The lack of #  File generated by update-locale in the file suggests
that someone/something wrote it themselves.

This is what those two systems give in response to locale:

$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
$

$ locale
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
$

I wouldn't recommend setting LC_ALL to anything.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: construire une série de paquets interdépendants

2015-03-14 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sun, 15 Mar 2015 09:24:35 +0900
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org a écrit:

 Le Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 06:58:37PM +0100, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
  
  On s'égare. :) Je n'ai pas de problème de compilation. C'est une lenteur
  lors de l'installation d'un installation de paquet.
 
 Bonjour Gaëtan,
 
 c'est peut-être lié à des problèmes que dpkg avait avec ext4 ?
 
 https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ#Q:_Why_is_dpkg_so_slow_when_using_new_filesystems_such_as_btrfs_or_ext4.3F

Possible mais étrange car si j'ai bien compris c'est censé être résolu dans la
version wheezy, non ?

 
 Dans un chroot facilement remplaçable, une solution simple c'est d'installer
 le paquet « eatmydata » qui comme son nom l'indique n'est pas à utiliser si
 on n'a pas de sauvegarde ou de plan B.
 

Je l'ai installé mais sans changement...

Gaëtan

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Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-14 Thread Ric Moore

On 03/14/2015 03:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Saturday 14 March 2015 18:47:46 Ric Moore wrote:

It's when you hit version 36 that it
blows up.


In what way?  It seems not significantly worse than it was before.  What is
yet to happen to me? :-(


For those of us that use Download Helper, it refuses to work. Without 
Download Helper I would just use Chrome. Since I am on a HughsNet sat 
link, my video experience sucks. So, I download, whenever I can, and 
view it at full speed locally. Version 36 killed that ability for me. 
The Download Helper site recognizes the problem and are working on it. 
chuffs I tried the Beta and Firefox seg faulted. Best to stick with 
less than version 36 for now. And pin it as well so you don't get 
upgraded. :) Ric




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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-14 Thread Gary Dale

On 14/03/15 09:48 PM, David Wright wrote:

Quoting Gary Dale (garyd...@torfree.net):

On 14/03/15 09:34 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 06:00:
snip

I did add tls_on_connect_ports = 465 to exim4.conf.localmacros, which is
supposed to cover the SSL on connect issue.


Besides the dc_smarthost addition ::465, I added

protocol = smtps

in the transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost section and didn't
change tls_on_connect_ports. Don't know if this works when adding it in
exim4.conf.localmacros (maybe you try that first?). Also, don't forget to add
an appropriate entry in passwd.client.

Ignore previous e-mail. It didn't work. Tried it with and without
the tls_on_connect_ports line in local_macros.

Also, the entry in passwd.client would be the same as for the
unencrypted connection, unless I'm missing something.

Is it worth telnetting the port to check that it supports what you
think it does. For example, from several years ago:

$ telnet smtp.lionunicorn.co.uk 25 ←
Trying 149.255.58.10...
Connected to smtp.lionunicorn.co.uk.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 cloud11.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk ESMTP
ehlo me.here ←
250-cloud11.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk
250-AUTH=LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
250-STARTTLS
250-PIPELINING
250 8BITMIME
^] ←
telnet quit ←
Connection closed.

I typed these lines. ←

Cheers,
David.
I can telnet to both 26 and 465. I get three 220 lines when I connect to 
port 26, including the ESMTP line, but not when I use port 465. When I 
connect to port 465, I get kicked out if I enter the EHLO or a USER 
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Re: Why no security update of apache2 concerning SSLv3?

2015-03-14 Thread Joe
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 14:51:53 + (UTC)
Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:

 On 2015-03-14, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 
  In smaller locales, this one county being around 7900 souls, that
  does happen occasionally. I check the obit page when it comes out
  on Wednesdays, and if my name isn't listed, I go on doing my things
  for another week. Its worked well so far... :)
 
 
 It'd be weird if your name was listed.  Or did Rod Serling already
 write that one sixty years ago.  That's the signpost up ahead...
 
 

Dave Swarbrick of Fairport Convention had his obituary posted in the UK
Daily Telegraph, no less, which turned out to be something of an
exaggeration. That was 1999, Swarbrick is still with us...

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problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Felix Perez
El sábado, 14 de marzo de 2015, Juan Carlos Rebate fhuv...@gmail.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fhuv...@gmail.com'); escribió:

 no no, no considero que el nav de google sea el mas seguro de hecho no
 lo uso, uso firefox, a lo que voy esque las nuevas medidas antihakeo
 de google bloquean clientes de escritorio como outlook o thunderbird,
 y sinceramente no me arriesgo a desactivarla, que mas da que sea
 encima o debajo? lo importante es leer, preguntar y responder nada
 mas,ami me preguntaron sobre mi hardware y respondi, ahora desviais el
 tema a google

 Estimado a.o

Chaooo.


 Que cantidad de . circulan por aquí.

Ahhh por si las dudas les escribo desde un ipad usando gmail, si les gusta
 bueno, y me da lo mismo como  llegue,   la verdad  no me importa solo
 quiero que me respondan lo que pregunté. capici.


 AH Y USO DEBIAN ASI QUE AYUDENME.


 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 20:19, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com
 escribió:
  Hola.
 
  El 14 de marzo de 2015, 12:49, Juan Carlos Rebate fhuv...@gmail.com
  escribió:
 
  si leyeras las notificaciones de seguridad de google leerias que
  outlook evolution y thunderbird están bloqueadas por google pr estar
  consideradas poco seguras, existe una opción en ecurity.google.com que
  permite desactivar esto y ahi si permite uarlas pero no se recomienda,
  leelo y veras
 
 
  Por favor disculpa pero me parece entender que tu confías en lo que la
 gente
  de google te dice, es decir que otros clientes de correo son inseguros.
 
  Algunas preguntas:
 
  ¿Se te ha ocurrido pensar que es probable que el _único_ navegador 100%
  seguro sea google chrome? De allí que te sugieran que veas tus correos
 email
  con SUS herramientas.
 
  (Te lo dicen aquí:
 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=es)
 
  Si le preguntaras a Billy Gates ¿Qué sistema operativo es mas seguro, Mac
  OS, ZOs, GNU/Linux (cualquier sabor que escojas), Unix (cualquier sabor
 que
  escojas), o Windows, Cuál crees tu que sería la respuesta?
 
  ¿Te has tomado la molestia de averiguar cuáles son los puntos, que según
 el
  criterio de la gente de google, permiten determinar que hay
 vulnerabilidades
  en el cliente de correo que tu quisiera usar? ¿En realidad existe tal
  riesgo?
 
  En lo personal estoy usando gmail desde que nació y si mal no recuerdo
 (eso
  fue hace mucho, mucho tiempo, en una galaxia lejana.) me parece que
 el
  cliente de correo de mozilla para ese entonces venía integrado como una
  característica del navegador, al igual que el calendario.  Bueno en
 realidad
  lo pertinente es que _jamás_ he tenido problemas de seguridad.
 
  Sugerencia:  Comprueba lo que te digan antes de opinar (siempre que esto
 sea
  posible, claro)
 
  Saludos.
 
 
 
 
  El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 18:07, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
   El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:41:35 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:
  
   respondo como permite gmail,
  
   Eso no es cierto.
  
   no lo hago a proposito,
  
   Yo diría que sí, o sencillamente que deberías preocuparte de buscar la
   opción para cambiarlo porque existir, existe.
  
   no puedo usar evolution ni ningun otro cliente por lo de las
   aplicaciones menos seguras,
  
   Eso no tiene ningún sentido, lo siento.
  
   no voy a desactivar la seguridad de google para que me hackeen,
  
   Esto tiene menos sentido aún. No tienes que desactivar nada de Gmail
   para
   mandar los correos a la lista en la forma adecuada.
  
   por lo tanto solo puedo usar la app de google y no tengo culpa de
 como
   trata los coreos.
  
   Pues lo siento pero el formato de tus correos no es correcto y si no
   quieres corregirlo poco más puedo hacer :-(
  
   Saludos,
  
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Re: Could do with some help - Wheezy, Kernel updated, now cannot boot

2015-03-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Ron Leach wrote:
 Some progress.  The CDROM problem that was preventing the D7.7 install DVD
 from running in rescue mode was due to a defective USB DVD device.
 Replacing that enables the rescue mode of the install DVD to run properly.

Yay!  Progress!

 Rescue mode has assembled 7 raid partitions, and '/' was on the 2nd
 partition (/dev/md122).  /dev/md121 - which I first tried - must be the boot
 partition that LILO is using (and I seem to recall that when I built the
 original Lenny RAID system the installer preferred to use LILO as the boot
 system, though I notice that recent Wheezy machine builds are using GRUB).

Depending upon how you partitioned your system one or the other may
have been required.  For example if you /boot on an lvm partition then
grub did not know how to talk to it and lilo was required.  Also other
possibilities.

Regardless of newer versions of grub and lilo and others working with
more complex /boot locations, such as on lvm, or encrypted partitions,
and so forth, I strongly prefer /boot on a plain raw partition.  It is
okay to have /boot be an /dev/md0 multi-device raid partition managed
by mdadm.  That works wonderfully because at boot time it appears to
be a plain partition.

 I now have a rescue shell on '/' where '/' has been mounted at /dev/md122.
 ls gives me the 1st level filesystem directory names that I expect to see.
 I tried running mc so that could copy '/' to some external device, but it
 couldn't be found; I think that may in part be because the installer has
 only mounted the '/' partition and not the other various partitions.  I'll
 next look at fstab, and mount the remainder of the filesystem.

Normally the idea in rescue mode is that you are presented with a
shell with the root in your main system.  At that point you can mount
the rest of your system.  It would normally be like this:

  # mount -a

However seeing those large numbers 121 and 121 in your device paths
/dev/md121 above I worry that you had /dev/md0 and /dev/md1 types of
names and those have been swapped for /dev/md121 and /dev/md122 and
therefore the paths in your fstab won't work at the moment.  Or they
might be using other paths, labels, uuids, and so forth.

If you could post the contents of your /etc/fstab it would help us
know how you have configured your system.  There are so many
possibilities.  It is hard to put forward suggestions without knowing.

And what was the structure of your configuration?  Perhaps we can tell
from the /etc/fstab lines?  Lots of possibilities.

 I'm still uncertain how to start the Wheezy system that is just sitting
 there.  I'd like to be able to do that so as to check quickly that
 everything that should run is running ok - unless that's a bad thing to do
 at this stage.

As far as I can read from your threads you currently have two partitions.

  /dev/md121 /boot
  /dev/md122 /

Is that all?  Swap?  Other?  If I was at that point I would probably
go ahead and mount everything.  But if the device numbers have changed
then they could only be mounted manually because they won't match what
is in the /etc/fstab.

I don't see where you have said what is in /etc/fstab and therefore
don't know how many file systems need to be mounted.  But for those
two it would be simply this:

  # mount /dev/md121 /boot

At this point you are effectively in the early bootstrap stages of a
system.  You have a shell.  File systems are mounted.  But nothing
else related to a normal system bootstrap may have happened.  The
idea at this point isn't to be able to have a fully normal system.
The idea at this point is to be able to repair your system and reboot
again so that it will be normal.

It has been a long time since I have used lilo so I forget the
commands to rebuild the lilo boot.  But you should be able to run
commands at this point and fix things.

  # lilo-stuff-here  # Sorry I forget how to fix lilo systems now...

If it were a grub based system it would be grub commands.  This would
be typical.

  # grub-install /dev/sda

And then having fixed grub then reboot and the system would come up
normally.

The change in device numbers may be permanent though and if the device
names don't match up with what you have in /etc/fstab then things
still won't be happy.  I have been there many times.  Here is how you
can reset the device numbers back to what they were.

Exit the shell on your raid device.  Start a shell in the installer
environment in the initrd.  Then use mdadm commands to stop the raid
and reset the numbers.

To stop mdadm on a device:

  mdadm --stop /dev/md121
  mdadm --stop /dev/md122

Minor number will be out of sync, fix with:

  mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1
  mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5

Adjust the device numbers all around above for what matches your
setup.  The above would be typical for the basic installs I have seen
however and I think likely to be correct for you.  But double check.

You can also query 

Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-14 Thread Gary Dale

On 14/03/15 11:08 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 15:46:

On 14/03/15 09:34 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 06:00:
snip

I did add tls_on_connect_ports = 465 to exim4.conf.localmacros, which is
supposed to cover the SSL on connect issue.


Besides the dc_smarthost addition ::465, I added

 protocol = smtps

in the transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost section and didn't
change tls_on_connect_ports. Don't know if this works when adding it in
exim4.conf.localmacros (maybe you try that first?). Also, don't forget to add
an appropriate entry in passwd.client.

Ignore previous e-mail. It didn't work. Tried it with and without the
tls_on_connect_ports line in local_macros.


As far as I understand the documentation, tls_on_connect_ports  regards clients
connecting to your exim4 server.
Perhaps. I read it as my exim4 client connecting to a poorly-configured 
remote smarthost.



Also, the entry in passwd.client would be the same as for the unencrypted
connection, unless I'm missing something.
  

Take a look into the log file. In my case the server exim4 tries to connect to,
does answer with another server name than the one given in dc_smarthost. I
therefore added a line with the name of the responding server and same username
and password.
I considered that (previous experience with google) and used *.com in 
the passwd.client line since I just have the one server I'm connecting to.



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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Manolo Díaz
El sábado, 14 mar 2015, a las 20:44 UTC+1 horas,
Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

no no, no considero que el nav de google sea el mas seguro de hecho no
lo uso, uso firefox, a lo que voy esque las nuevas medidas antihakeo
de google bloquean clientes de escritorio como outlook o thunderbird,
y sinceramente no me arriesgo a desactivarla, que mas da que sea
encima o debajo?

¿Qué más da? Este correo contiene la historia del hilo. Intenta
seguirla y verás por qué no da lo mismo.

lo importante es leer, preguntar y responder nada
mas,ami me preguntaron sobre mi hardware y respondi, ahora desviais el
tema a google

El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 20:19, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola.

 El 14 de marzo de 2015, 12:49, Juan Carlos Rebate fhuv...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 si leyeras las notificaciones de seguridad de google leerias que
 outlook evolution y thunderbird están bloqueadas por google pr estar
 consideradas poco seguras, existe una opción en ecurity.google.com que
 permite desactivar esto y ahi si permite uarlas pero no se recomienda,
 leelo y veras


 Por favor disculpa pero me parece entender que tu confías en lo que la gente
 de google te dice, es decir que otros clientes de correo son inseguros.

 Algunas preguntas:

 ¿Se te ha ocurrido pensar que es probable que el _único_ navegador 100%
 seguro sea google chrome? De allí que te sugieran que veas tus correos email
 con SUS herramientas.

 (Te lo dicen aquí: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=es)

 Si le preguntaras a Billy Gates ¿Qué sistema operativo es mas seguro, Mac
 OS, ZOs, GNU/Linux (cualquier sabor que escojas), Unix (cualquier sabor que
 escojas), o Windows, Cuál crees tu que sería la respuesta?

 ¿Te has tomado la molestia de averiguar cuáles son los puntos, que según el
 criterio de la gente de google, permiten determinar que hay vulnerabilidades
 en el cliente de correo que tu quisiera usar? ¿En realidad existe tal
 riesgo?

 En lo personal estoy usando gmail desde que nació y si mal no recuerdo (eso
 fue hace mucho, mucho tiempo, en una galaxia lejana.) me parece que el
 cliente de correo de mozilla para ese entonces venía integrado como una
 característica del navegador, al igual que el calendario.  Bueno en realidad
 lo pertinente es que _jamás_ he tenido problemas de seguridad.

 Sugerencia:  Comprueba lo que te digan antes de opinar (siempre que esto sea
 posible, claro)

 Saludos.




 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 18:07, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
  El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:41:35 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:
 
  respondo como permite gmail,
 
  Eso no es cierto.
 
  no lo hago a proposito,
 
  Yo diría que sí, o sencillamente que deberías preocuparte de buscar la
  opción para cambiarlo porque existir, existe.
 
  no puedo usar evolution ni ningun otro cliente por lo de las
  aplicaciones menos seguras,
 
  Eso no tiene ningún sentido, lo siento.
 
  no voy a desactivar la seguridad de google para que me hackeen,
 
  Esto tiene menos sentido aún. No tienes que desactivar nada de Gmail
  para
  mandar los correos a la lista en la forma adecuada.
 
  por lo tanto solo puedo usar la app de google y no tengo culpa de como
  trata los coreos.
 
  Pues lo siento pero el formato de tus correos no es correcto y si no
  quieres corregirlo poco más puedo hacer :-(
 
  Saludos,
 
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Re: locale problems

2015-03-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Frank wrote:
 The past few days I've been getting mail from anacron
 about errors like this:

 /etc/cron.daily/man-db:
 /usr/bin/mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct

Somewhere along the way you have set the default system locale to one
that doesn't exist.  What is the value stored here:

  cat /etc/default/locale

Is that a valid locale on your system?

 How to go about fixing this ?

The easiest way to fix it is this way:

  # dpkg-reconfigure locales

You are an en_US.UTF-8 the same as me.  I suggest paging down through
the long list of possible locales and verifying that it is selected.
It likely is selected but good to verify.  The second question is the
important one.  It asks:

  Many packages in Debian use locales to display text in the correct
  language for the user. You can choose a default locale for the system
  from the generated locales.

  This will select the default language for the entire system. If this
  system is a multi-user system where not all users are able to speak the
  default language, they will experience difficulties.

  Default locale for the system environment:

None
en_US.UTF-8

When it says in the above select the default language for the entire
system the main effect will be at boot time.  At boot time many
system daemons are started.  What locale will those daemons use?
Those system daemons at boot time will use the value set by the above
into the /etc/default/locale file.  Up through through Debian Wheezy 7
that file is sourced into the /etc/init.d/foo scripts.  Everything is
different in the upcoming Jessie 8 but I can only hope the same
interface functionality for compatibility is provided there.

I think this where your system is broken.  Your symptoms match the
case that the /etc/default/locale file contains a value that wasn't
generated and therefore can't be set.  Make sure that all locales you
use are generated.  Note there is also the locales-all package.

I strongly suggest setting this question to None as None will
configure the traditional POSIX Unix C local behavior from the system
and everything will be POSIX standard behavior.  Since you are an
en_US.UTF-8 user this is a good value for you and everything will
behave in a normal way.  Non-English locale users may want to set this
to a non-english locale so that their system errors are logged using
their desired locale setting.  But even then if possible I suggest
using the POSIX standard locale for interoperability.

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can't start kde in Jessie

2015-03-14 Thread James

I upgraded to Jessie and now I can't boot into kde.
I get the normal X login and I pick the kde session and it starts to 
start kde, something flashes on the screen and I go back to the X login.

I can boot into a console.
I found this in /var/lib/daemon.log:


console-kit-daemon[1707]: (process:4047): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: 
assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed


I also noticed the caps lock light on my keyboard doesn't work.

I'm going to try a simple DM.


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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-14 Thread Joe
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:38:44 -0700
Joris Bolsens jo...@linux.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 I've got a smallish Debian server that I'm currently not really using
 for anything.
 At the moment I have it as my own imagehost, general fileserver, vpn,
 and a pastebin like thing.
 
 What are some cool/fun/weird things you use your servers for?
 

Mail server, sound server with USB output connected to my hi-fi system,
RADIUS server for the wireless access point, an assortment of PHP pages
to run the music, get Internet radio, calculate meat cooking times,
start network machines with Wake-On-LAN, run several domestic databases
including receipts, linked to scanned images, central storage of
instruction leaflets for various domestic machines, watches, phones
etc., oh yes, main network firewall... the possibilities are endless.

I did have a go at getting bluetooth audio out of it, but all I managed
to do was to find a way to crash Debian Stable... unfortunately leaving
no trace at all in any log.

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Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 14 March 2015 18:47:46 Ric Moore wrote:
 It's when you hit version 36 that it
 blows up.

In what way?  It seems not significantly worse than it was before.  What is 
yet to happen to me? :-(

Lisi


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Re: xhost + ssh -X import/export fenétres graphiques

2015-03-14 Thread Patrice Go
effectivement, c'est exactement le logiciel recherché. merci.
malheureusement après quelques tests, ça ne fonctionne pas.
un problème avec python apparemment, mais je vais continuer les tests.




Le 9 mars 2015 12:03, Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net a écrit :

 On 2015-03-08 13:58:03 +0100, Patrice Go wrote:
  Effectivement, xhost ne semble utile que pour telnet. j'ai apparemment
  suivi une vieille méthode. merci.
  mon but est d'importer de manière chiffré (ssh) une application X d'un
  autre ordinateur et de la réexporter sur cet ordinateur à la fin de
  l'utilisation de l'application X.

 Regarde du côté de xpra (jamais testé). Je crois que c'est plus
 du contrôle à distance que de la téléportation d'applications
 d'un serveur X à un autre. Mais c'est probablement plus ce que
 tu veux.

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Re: visio sous Jessie

2015-03-14 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le samedi 14 mars 2015, Haricophile a écrit...


 Après je suppose qu'il faut se configurer un
 https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitsiVideobridge pour faire ça bien avec son
 propre réseau.

Fonctionne également avec un serveur xmpp comme ejabberd, plus libre que
Skype…

Et désolé pour la réponse perso, un r malencontreux à la place du L

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Re: NFS client in 'rescue shell' from install DVD?

2015-03-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Ron Leach wrote:
 # mount 192.168.0.200:/srv /mnt/nfs/srv
 mount.nfs no such device

I think the device refered to here is the network device.

 Does the error message mean that there is no nfs client available in the
 rescue shell?

Which root are you using for your rescue?  Is it the root of the
initrd?  Or is it the root of your system's?  Because those are two
hugely different things.  (I already know it isn't your system's
because I see the other threads.  I will go over there and make
comments about it.)

But that is your problem.  You are in the initrd rescue shell and it
is very minimul.  It isn't a full system.  It won't be able to do
these nfs mounts.  The initrd level is there to bootstrap to the full
system.

 Is there any way round this?  There is an nfs client, somewhere in the
 filesystem that the rescue shell can see, for example, if there was a method
 to invoke it.

I suggest one of these different ways to go.

* Work the problem if getting to your main system.  Then you will have
everything you had before.

* Work the problem by booting a livecd that includes your nfs client.

* Use other resources available in the very small initrd.  I don't
remember what is available there.  I only rarely find myself needing
to deal with it.  But if 'nc' is available there then there are hacks
(some a little tedious but functional) available using it to copy files.

I am going to make comments in your other threads.  I think you need
to work on getting your main system functional again.

Bob


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Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-14 Thread Seeker



On 3/14/2015 12:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Saturday 14 March 2015 18:47:46 Ric Moore wrote:

It's when you hit version 36 that it
blows up.

In what way?  It seems not significantly worse than it was before.  What is
yet to happen to me? :-(

Lisi



Firefox is fine, Video Download Helper was not compatible with FF 36.

On a laptop where I have Windows 10 VDH just updated to 5.0.1, which 
seems to work fine.


Will have to try it on my Linux boxes now.

Later, Seeker


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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Juan Lavieri
Hola.

El 14 de marzo de 2015, 12:49, Juan Carlos Rebate fhuv...@gmail.com
escribió:

 si leyeras las notificaciones de seguridad de google leerias que
 outlook evolution y thunderbird están bloqueadas por google pr estar
 consideradas poco seguras, existe una opción en ecurity.google.com que
 permite desactivar esto y ahi si permite uarlas pero no se recomienda,
 leelo y veras


​Por favor disculpa pero me parece entender​ que tu confías en lo que la
gente de google te dice, es decir que otros clientes de correo son
inseguros.

Algunas preguntas:

¿Se te ha ocurrido pensar que es probable que el _único_ navegador 100%
seguro sea google chrome? De allí que te sugieran que veas tus correos
email con SUS herramientas.

(Te lo dicen aquí: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=es)

Si le preguntaras a Billy Gates ¿Qué sistema operativo es mas seguro, Mac
OS, ZOs, GNU/Linux (cualquier sabor que escojas), Unix (cualquier sabor que
escojas), o Windows, Cuál crees tu que sería la respuesta?

¿Te has tomado la molestia de averiguar cuáles son los puntos, que según el
criterio de la gente de google, permiten determinar que hay
vulnerabilidades en el cliente de correo que tu quisiera usar? ¿En realidad
existe tal riesgo?

En lo personal estoy usando gmail desde que nació y si mal no recuerdo (eso
fue hace mucho, mucho tiempo, en una galaxia lejana.) me parece que el
cliente de correo de mozilla para ese entonces venía integrado como una
característica del navegador, al igual que el calendario.  Bueno en
realidad lo pertinente es que _jamás_ he tenido problemas de seguridad.

Sugerencia:  Comprueba lo que te digan antes de opinar (siempre que esto
sea posible, claro)

Saludos.




 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 18:07, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
  El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:41:35 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:
 
  respondo como permite gmail,
 
  Eso no es cierto.
 
  no lo hago a proposito,
 
  Yo diría que sí, o sencillamente que deberías preocuparte de buscar la
  opción para cambiarlo porque existir, existe.
 
  no puedo usar evolution ni ningun otro cliente por lo de las
  aplicaciones menos seguras,
 
  Eso no tiene ningún sentido, lo siento.
 
  no voy a desactivar la seguridad de google para que me hackeen,
 
  Esto tiene menos sentido aún. No tienes que desactivar nada de Gmail para
  mandar los correos a la lista en la forma adecuada.
 
  por lo tanto solo puedo usar la app de google y no tengo culpa de como
  trata los coreos.
 
  Pues lo siento pero el formato de tus correos no es correcto y si no
  quieres corregirlo poco más puedo hacer :-(
 
  Saludos,
 
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Re: version that was installed

2015-03-14 Thread Bob Proulx
James wrote:
 Andreas Rönnquist wrote:
  Why doesn't /etc/issue say 7.8 though?
  Not much of an answer, but in addition to /etc/issue there is
  also /etc/debian_version, which does give 7.8.
 
 Thanks.
 There should be standard file for all distros. :-)

Oh but there is!  The Linux Standard Base created a standard way to do
this using the lsb_release command quite some years ago.

  # apt-get install lsb-release

  $ lsb_release --short --release
  7.8

You can read about it here:

  http://www.linuxbase.org/

And of course here:

  http://xkcd.com/927/

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Re: locale problems

2015-03-14 Thread Frank

Sorry sent this to Bob instead of the list. Getting old :)



On 03/14/2015 04:03 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Frank wrote:

The past few days I've been getting mail from anacron
about errors like this:

/etc/cron.daily/man-db:
/usr/bin/mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct


Somewhere along the way you have set the default system locale to one
that doesn't exist.  What is the value stored here:

   cat /etc/default/locale

Is that a valid locale on your system?



frank@frank-debian:~$ cat /etc/default/locale
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8

Is this what should be in /etc/default/locale ??

Seems strange.






How to go about fixing this ?


The easiest way to fix it is this way:

   # dpkg-reconfigure locales

You are an en_US.UTF-8 the same as me.  I suggest paging down through
the long list of possible locales and verifying that it is selected.
It likely is selected but good to verify.  The second question is the
important one.  It asks:

   Many packages in Debian use locales to display text in the correct
   language for the user. You can choose a default locale for the system
   from the generated locales.

   This will select the default language for the entire system. If this
   system is a multi-user system where not all users are able to speak the
   default language, they will experience difficulties.

   Default locale for the system environment:

 None
 en_US.UTF-8

When it says in the above select the default language for the entire
system the main effect will be at boot time.  At boot time many
system daemons are started.  What locale will those daemons use?
Those system daemons at boot time will use the value set by the above
into the /etc/default/locale file.  Up through through Debian Wheezy 7
that file is sourced into the /etc/init.d/foo scripts.  Everything is
different in the upcoming Jessie 8 but I can only hope the same
interface functionality for compatibility is provided there.

I think this where your system is broken.  Your symptoms match the
case that the /etc/default/locale file contains a value that wasn't
generated and therefore can't be set.  Make sure that all locales you
use are generated.  Note there is also the locales-all package.

I strongly suggest setting this question to None as None will
configure the traditional POSIX Unix C local behavior from the system
and everything will be POSIX standard behavior.  Since you are an
en_US.UTF-8 user this is a good value for you and everything will
behave in a normal way.  Non-English locale users may want to set this
to a non-english locale so that their system errors are logged using
their desired locale setting.  But even then if possible I suggest
using the POSIX standard locale for interoperability.

Bob



  Did that Bob and selected None.
  Hope that fixes it...but I am still wondering about the
content of /etc/default/locale ??

Thanks for the detailed reply.


Frank


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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-14 Thread Joris Bolsens
 Mail server,
I thought about this, but from what i understand, mail servers are
notoriously difficult to secure properly.

 sound server with USB output connected to my hi-fi system,
 RADIUS server for the wireless access point, an assortment of PHP pages
 to run the music, get Internet radio, calculate meat cooking times,
 start network machines with Wake-On-LAN, run several domestic databases
 including receipts, linked to scanned images, central storage of
 instruction leaflets for various domestic machines, watches, phones
 etc., oh yes, main network firewall... the possibilities are endless.
 
 I did have a go at getting bluetooth audio out of it, but all I managed
 to do was to find a way to crash Debian Stable... unfortunately leaving
 no trace at all in any log.
 
This is a remote server, not a local one, sorry for specifying :p



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Re: locale problems

2015-03-14 Thread Frank

On 03/14/2015 06:55 PM, David Wright wrote:

Quoting Frank (debianl...@videotron.ca):

On 03/14/2015 04:03 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Frank wrote:

The past few days I've been getting mail from anacron
about errors like this:

/etc/cron.daily/man-db:
/usr/bin/mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct


Somewhere along the way you have set the default system locale to one
that doesn't exist.  What is the value stored here:

   cat /etc/default/locale

Is that a valid locale on your system?



frank@frank-debian:~$ cat /etc/default/locale
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8

Is this what should be in /etc/default/locale ??


Not at all.
Here's a US wheezy:

$ cat /etc/default/locale
#  File generated by update-locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
$



That's what is now in my /etc/default/locale





$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
$




Mine


root@frank-debian:/home/frank# locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

So it appears everything is well with the worldwell with
Debian Sid anyway.



Thanks for your help as well.

Frank


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Re: locale problems

2015-03-14 Thread Frank

On 03/14/2015 07:21 PM, Frank wrote:

On 03/14/2015 07:02 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Frank wrote:


Is this what should be in /etc/default/locale ??



Seems strange.


Not strange.  Unfamiliar maybe.  This file replaced the same use of it
in the /etc/environment file.  And there have been other attempts as
well.  I expect it will go away in the future and be replaced with yet
another configuration.


The easiest way to fix it is this way:

   # dpkg-reconfigure locales
[...configure en_US.UTF-8 for generation and select None for the
system locale...]



   Did that Bob and selected None.


And what are the new contents of /etc/default/locale?

   cat /etc/default/locale



root@frank-debian:/home/frank# cat /etc/default/locale
#LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Unexpected..I thought it would be empty ?





I expect they will have nothing but comments there now.  It is always
good to verify actions like this.

At that point if it isn't too much inconvenience then I would
reboot.  Because that would ensure that all of the running daemons of
the system get the new setting.



Will do.



   Rebooted and it appears all is well.

Thanks again

Frank



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Re: construire une série de paquets interdépendants

2015-03-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 06:58:37PM +0100, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 
 On s'égare. :) Je n'ai pas de problème de compilation. C'est une lenteur lors
 de l'installation d'un installation de paquet.

Bonjour Gaëtan,

c'est peut-être lié à des problèmes que dpkg avait avec ext4 ?

https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ#Q:_Why_is_dpkg_so_slow_when_using_new_filesystems_such_as_btrfs_or_ext4.3F

Dans un chroot facilement remplaçable, une solution simple c'est d'installer
le paquet « eatmydata » qui comme son nom l'indique n'est pas à utiliser si on
n'a pas de sauvegarde ou de plan B.

Amicalement,

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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-14 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gary Dale (garyd...@torfree.net):
 On 14/03/15 09:34 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
 Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 06:00:
 snip
 I did add tls_on_connect_ports = 465 to exim4.conf.localmacros, which is
 supposed to cover the SSL on connect issue.
 
 Besides the dc_smarthost addition ::465, I added
 
 protocol = smtps
 
 in the transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost section and didn't
 change tls_on_connect_ports. Don't know if this works when adding it in
 exim4.conf.localmacros (maybe you try that first?). Also, don't forget to 
 add
 an appropriate entry in passwd.client.
 Ignore previous e-mail. It didn't work. Tried it with and without
 the tls_on_connect_ports line in local_macros.
 
 Also, the entry in passwd.client would be the same as for the
 unencrypted connection, unless I'm missing something.

Is it worth telnetting the port to check that it supports what you
think it does. For example, from several years ago:

$ telnet smtp.lionunicorn.co.uk 25 ←
Trying 149.255.58.10...
Connected to smtp.lionunicorn.co.uk.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 cloud11.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk ESMTP
ehlo me.here ←
250-cloud11.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk
250-AUTH=LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
250-STARTTLS
250-PIPELINING
250 8BITMIME
^] ←
telnet quit ←
Connection closed.

I typed these lines. ←

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-14 Thread Stephen R Guglielmo
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:11:13 -0700
Joris Bolsens jo...@linux.com wrote:
  Mail server,
 I thought about this, but from what i understand, mail servers are
 notoriously difficult to secure properly.

Nah, I definitely wouldn't say notoriously difficult. There's some
out there that are generally annoying, but Postfix and Exim aren't too
bad. There's plenty of guides out there to help you learn. It's a large
experience of just reading documentation and figuring out minor things
to get it right.

I have a guide on my website[1] for setting up Postfix that is secure.
If you google, you'll find many more for different configurations[2].
Use them as guides and review the documentation on the proper
Postfix/Exim/etc websites and man pages.

My next steps with that guide is to setup Maildrop as my MDA and add in
SpamAssassin into the mix with DKIM.

I suppose, TL;DR would be: It's not THAT hard. You just gotta find it
interesting, heh.

[1] https://guglielmo.us/cs/postfix.html
[2] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4


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Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-14 Thread Seeker



On 3/14/2015 7:27 PM, Seeker wrote:



On 3/14/2015 12:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Saturday 14 March 2015 18:47:46 Ric Moore wrote:

It's when you hit version 36 that it
blows up.
In what way?  It seems not significantly worse than it was before.  
What is

yet to happen to me? :-(

Lisi



Firefox is fine, Video Download Helper was not compatible with FF 36.

On a laptop where I have Windows 10 VDH just updated to 5.0.1, which 
seems to work fine.


Will have to try it on my Linux boxes now.

Later, Seeker


PS. Don't know where the other download issue is coming from, maybe 
another FF addon.



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Re: construire une série de paquets interdépendants

2015-03-14 Thread mrr

On 03/14/2015 07:00 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

oui c'est xfce 4.12 que j'essaie de construire mais la je bloque sur une
dépendance cyclique.


Dac, j'étais loin du compte en fait!


xfce4-settings dépend de upower = 0.99 qui dépend de glib2.0 = 2.36 qui
dépend de python = 2.7.5 qui dépend de dpkg = 1.17.11 et c'est là que le
problème arrive car lors du configure il y a une erreur car le gcc 4.7 ne
connait pas l'option stack-protector-strong donc il faudrait mettre gcc à jour
mais pour installer gcc 4.9 il faut dpkg-dev = 1.17.11 ...


Le configure, c'est avant la compilation, on est d'accord?
Et l'erreur serait la cause de la lenteur mais n’empêcherait pas pour 
autant l'installation, c'est ça ou je m'égare encore?

Curieux!

Peut être que tu serais gagnant à vérifier ton CFLAGS lors de la 
compilation, et virer le cas échéant cette option.

Et vérifier le makefile.

Sinon, je cède la main, je vois pas trop à part:
- Bien sûr changer les options du configure (j'imagine que t'as déjà du 
essayer), ou dans les évidents on a bien sûr passer sur une jessie.
- Aller voir le site de linux from scratch, ils sont fort pour tout 
compiler.
- Aller farfouiller le code et trouver à quoi correspond ce 
stack-protector-strong dans 4.9 et voir si on peut fainter dans 4.7 (bon 
courage).


Je repasse si j'ai une idée.

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Re: Wifi Problem

2015-03-14 Thread Gajadur Dwijesh
Okay i will try these links..thank you very much Bruce and Osamu [?]

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 09:35:13PM +0400, Gajadur Dwijesh wrote:
  Hello..i have Debian wheezy 7.8 KDE installed on my laptop..i am not able
  to get wifi connection..can someone help please?
  Thank you

 Debian does not install non-free things in its default installation.

 Unfortunately, many wifi devices has binary blobs which makes them
 non-free.

 But we still provide support them via non-free archive.

 Please read: (I used Google)
  https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
  http://linuxconfig.org/install-intel-wireless-firmware-on-debian-7-wheezy

 http://linuxforcynics.com/how-to/install-wifi-firmware-and-wpa-support-in-debian
  https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware

 Osamu



Cool things to do with server

2015-03-14 Thread Joris Bolsens
Hey all,

I've got a smallish Debian server that I'm currently not really using
for anything.
At the moment I have it as my own imagehost, general fileserver, vpn,
and a pastebin like thing.

What are some cool/fun/weird things you use your servers for?



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SAMBA 4 COM MAIS SERVIDORES NA MESMA REDE

2015-03-14 Thread Renan Fernandes
Olá!
Pessoal, estou quebrando a cabeça há uma semana. Estou tentando pôr para rodar 
o samba 4 como controlador de domínio em uma máquina virtual na mesma rede da 
empresa. O Samba4 em si roda lisinho quando em uma rede separada, tanto que 
testei umas três versões diferentes em distribuições diferentes.

O problema só acontece quando eu ponho a máquina na mesma rede da empresa que 
contém mais dois servidores samba 3.x e três servidores Caldera. Eu só consigo 
ingressar no domínio alterando os registros do Windows, e mesmo assim não 
consigo nem mesmo logar com um usuário válido, muito menos acessar via RSAT. 
Fiz os testes em casa e tudo corre normal com a mesma máquina virtual.

Existe alguma maneira de colocar o samba4 como preferencial ou algo que eu deva 
alterar nos outros servidores samba 3.x ?


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Re: wheezy to testing

2015-03-14 Thread 慕冬亮



On 03/15/2015 12:08 AM, James wrote:

I'm trying to upgrade wheezy to testing.
I am following the instructions at:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie 




I have seen this page in detail !
It uses Internet mirror to upgrade that you used before !

I get this error when I try apt-update:

W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official 
Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 
20150114-03:58]/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use 
apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot 
be used to add new CD-ROMs


Does anyone know why?


According to your report , your source.list file looks like a local 
mirror , not a network mirror!
I think you should check your list file or go to official web to search 
a good file to replace !

mudongliang


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Re: wheezy to testing

2015-03-14 Thread 慕冬亮



On 03/15/2015 02:09 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015, James wrote:



On 03/14/2015 12:47 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:08 PM, James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

I'm trying to upgrade wheezy to testing.
I am following the instructions at:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie

I get this error when I try apt-update:

W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official
Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary
20150114-03:58]/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please
use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get
update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs

Does anyone know why?


Most likely a misconfigured /etc/apt/sources.list file. Can you post
the contents of it? How are you upgrading the system - over the
network or by using an installation CD?

raju

sources.list:

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20150114-03:58]/ testing main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20150114-03:58]/ testing main

Comment out (or delete) the above entry.  It is the original Wheezy
install CD.  You don't need it if you're upgrading to testing.


deb http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib
non-free

# testing-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian/ testing-updates main contrib
non-free deb-src http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian/ testing-updates
main contrib non-free

Also, if your intent is to upgrade to testing/Jessie, enter jessie
instead of testing in those sources lists; otherwise, when Jessie
becomes Stable, you will continue upgrading with the NEW testing
release.

This is a small and detailed problem I encountered before !


Some doing this, so they have the more current release files like a
Rolling Release without having to use backports.

I have a problem about this ??
So If I use stable instead of Jessie or Wheezy , I will have a 
rolling release like archlinux or gentoo!

Is it ???


B.





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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-14 Thread Rani Ahmed
Think of a thin client setup. if you are married and has kids, this will be
good way to save more money.
read about LTSP here. I am actually going to make a similar setup for a
company.



On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Joris Bolsens jo...@linux.com wrote:

 Hey all,

 I've got a smallish Debian server that I'm currently not really using
 for anything.
 At the moment I have it as my own imagehost, general fileserver, vpn,
 and a pastebin like thing.

 What are some cool/fun/weird things you use your servers for?




Subtle Denial of Medical Treatment by the Singapore Government for Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)

2015-03-14 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)

Dear Sir/Madam,

Please refer to the attached PDF document. It is a very important 
letter. Please read the letter very carefully, word by word.


The letter details how the Singapore Government led by Prime Minister 
Lee Hsien Loong has ***SUBTLY*** denied me medical treatment for 
***SUSPECTED*** coronary heart disease.


Thank you very much.

--
Yours sincerely,

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Singapore Citizen



(Declassified) Subtle Denial of Medical Treatment by the Singapore Government for Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dated 14 Mar 2015.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


Re: construire une série de paquets interdépendants

2015-03-14 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 14 Mar 2015 06:16:36 +0100
mrr mire...@free.fr a écrit:

 On 03/13/2015 11:00 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:
  J'ai commencé pour l'instant ça se passe bien sauf que l'installation des
  paquets via apt-get src ou install est très lente et bloque les accès
  disques aux autres applications. Est-ce normal ?
  
  Gaëtan
  
  Je me demande si le problème ne vient pas du fait que la partition sur
  laquelle est le chroot est quasi pleine (2% de libre).
 
 Moi, je dirais que c'est une bonne présomption en tout cas.

Perdu ...

 
  Par contre je ne sais pas comment déplacer le chroot. J'ai essayé de le
  copier ailleurs mais la copie ne s'arrête jamais et dans la destination
  quand je fais un du -h j'ai le point qui gonfle, gonfle, gonfle j'ai donc
  arrêté (il était à 140Go)
 
 En fait, comment tu t'y prends pour le copier, ton chroot (et tu peux 
 pas juste te chrooter ailleurs?)?

Comment ça chrooter ailleurs ? Je n'ai pas compris ce que tu veux dire.

 
 J'imagine que tu dois ruser un peu (étant donné que dans le chroot tu es 
 censé être isolé), tu te sers d'un bind mount, tu montes une autre 
 partition dedans?
 
 En tout cas, il pourrait y avoir un truc récursif derrière ça.
 

Oui effectivement j'avais fait des bind mount comme préconisé ici:
https://wiki.debian.org/fr/Chroot
une fois retiré le déplacement se passe bien.

Par contre je constate la même lenteur.

Gaëtan

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Re: visio sous Jessie

2015-03-14 Thread S L
Bonjour

Le service de visioconférennce Framatalk sera disponible en 2015

http://degooglisons-internet.org/liste/

Librement

http://bn.parinux.org/p/agenda

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Re: [testing] tracker-extract et conso cpu

2015-03-14 Thread Johnny B

+1 !

gnome-tracker est une insulte a Gnome, à virer et à oublier ;)


On 03/14/2015 10:46 AM, Haricophile wrote:

Le Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:14:56 +0100,
Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit :


C'est quoi ce logiciel de m...e ?

Si j'étais juriste, ça serait mon logiciel préféré, installé avec un
bon serveur de documents et sur un PC fixe qui tourne en permanence.

Amha sur un portable c'est une aberration complète qui plombe n'importe
quelle conf, en tout cas sans ssd et pour les cellules des ssd j'ai un
doute... amha. Je ne comprends absolument pas que ce soit installé par
défaut.

Si vraiment on veut ce genre de truc, il y a Recoll qui a l'avantage de
ne tourner à la demande. J'ai aussi cru voir que quelqu'un avait remis
Beagle en marche.

Bref, un PC sur Gnome, la première chose que je fais est de virer ce
truc ainsi que gnome-photo dont je n'ai pas vu l'intérêt sinon me
bouffer toutes les ressources.

Ceci dit, je n'installe plus Gnome sauf exception. Si on veut les
avantages sans les inconvénients, il y a Cinnamon.



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Re: visio sous Jessie

2015-03-14 Thread Haricophile
Le Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:38:28 +0100,
S L slest...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Bonjour
 
 Le service de visioconférennce Framatalk sera disponible en 2015
 
 http://degooglisons-internet.org/liste/
 
 Librement

Erreur de lien :

https://soutenir.framasoft.org/ ;)

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Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-14 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-14, Rani Ahmed rani...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm a Palestinian guys, I live in Lebanon. But I lived three years in
 Australia . I earned my Masters degree in Information Technology from
 Australia.


The plot thickens!


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Re: visio sous Jessie

2015-03-14 Thread Haricophile
Le Fri, 13 Mar 2015 16:21:22 +0100,
Daniel Huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit :

 Il y a aussi jitsi dans SID.

Il y a même empathy dans Gnome... L'avantage de jitsi c'est d'être
compilé sous Windows AVEC la video, donc c'est très facile à mettre en
place pour tout le monde quand il y a des windowsiens même très nuls
en informatique. Et il n'y a pas les contraintes de Skype (ne serait-ce
que les pubs dans le client Windows).

Après je suppose qu'il faut se configurer un
https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitsiVideobridge pour faire ça bien avec son
propre réseau.

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Re: [testing] tracker-extract et conso cpu

2015-03-14 Thread Haricophile
Le Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:14:56 +0100,
Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit :

 C'est quoi ce logiciel de m...e ?

Si j'étais juriste, ça serait mon logiciel préféré, installé avec un
bon serveur de documents et sur un PC fixe qui tourne en permanence.

Amha sur un portable c'est une aberration complète qui plombe n'importe
quelle conf, en tout cas sans ssd et pour les cellules des ssd j'ai un
doute... amha. Je ne comprends absolument pas que ce soit installé par
défaut.

Si vraiment on veut ce genre de truc, il y a Recoll qui a l'avantage de
ne tourner à la demande. J'ai aussi cru voir que quelqu'un avait remis
Beagle en marche.

Bref, un PC sur Gnome, la première chose que je fais est de virer ce
truc ainsi que gnome-photo dont je n'ai pas vu l'intérêt sinon me
bouffer toutes les ressources.

Ceci dit, je n'installe plus Gnome sauf exception. Si on veut les
avantages sans les inconvénients, il y a Cinnamon.

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Re: Why no security update of apache2 concerning SSLv3?

2015-03-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 14 March 2015 03:39:48 Gene Heskett wrote:
  THE oldest?  Date?

 The Weston Democrat.  Since 1867.

Hmm .. quite old!!  For a young country. ;-)

I like
Obituaries
Obituaries. THERE ARE NO NEW DEATHS THIS WEEK.

Lisi

  E.g.
  http://library.uoregon.edu/govdocs/indexing/newspaperhistory.html
  Published since February 1846
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_News
  Published since June 1850


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Re: [testing] tracker-extract et conso cpu

2015-03-14 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:46:15 +0100
Haricophile haricoph...@aranha.fr a écrit:

 Le Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:14:56 +0100,
 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit :
 
  C'est quoi ce logiciel de m...e ?
 
 Si j'étais juriste, ça serait mon logiciel préféré, installé avec un
 bon serveur de documents et sur un PC fixe qui tourne en permanence.
 
 Amha sur un portable c'est une aberration complète qui plombe n'importe
 quelle conf, en tout cas sans ssd et pour les cellules des ssd j'ai un
 doute... amha. Je ne comprends absolument pas que ce soit installé par
 défaut.

Dans mon cas c'est sur une PC fixe qu'il est installé et qu'il me pose
problème. Sur mon portable il ne pose pas problème étrangement.

 
 Si vraiment on veut ce genre de truc, il y a Recoll qui a l'avantage de
 ne tourner à la demande. J'ai aussi cru voir que quelqu'un avait remis
 Beagle en marche.
 
 Bref, un PC sur Gnome, la première chose que je fais est de virer ce
 truc ainsi que gnome-photo dont je n'ai pas vu l'intérêt sinon me
 bouffer toutes les ressources.

Si j'essaie de l'enlever il me vire les meta paquets de Gnome ce que je ne
souhaite pas vraiment.

Gaëtan

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Re: Why no security update of apache2 concerning SSLv3?

2015-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 14 March 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Saturday 14 March 2015 03:39:48 Gene Heskett wrote:
   THE oldest?  Date?
 
  The Weston Democrat.  Since 1867.

 Hmm .. quite old!!  For a young country. ;-)

 I like
 Obituaries
 Obituaries. THERE ARE NO NEW DEATHS THIS WEEK.

 Lisi

In smaller locales, this one county being around 7900 souls, that does 
happen occasionally. I check the obit page when it comes out on 
Wednesdays, and if my name isn't listed, I go on doing my things for 
another week. Its worked well so far... :)

   E.g.
   http://library.uoregon.edu/govdocs/indexing/newspaperhistory.html
   Published since February 1846
  
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_News
   Published since June 1850

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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Re: Wifi Problem

2015-03-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 09:35:13PM +0400, Gajadur Dwijesh wrote:
 Hello..i have Debian wheezy 7.8 KDE installed on my laptop..i am not able
 to get wifi connection..can someone help please?
 Thank you

Debian does not install non-free things in its default installation.

Unfortunately, many wifi devices has binary blobs which makes them
non-free.

But we still provide support them via non-free archive.

Please read: (I used Google)
 https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
 http://linuxconfig.org/install-intel-wireless-firmware-on-debian-7-wheezy
 
http://linuxforcynics.com/how-to/install-wifi-firmware-and-wpa-support-in-debian
 https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
 
Osamu


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Re: Very slow downloads when doing dist-upgrade.

2015-03-14 Thread 慕冬亮



On 03/13/2015 07:18 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Friday 13 March 2015 10:58:38 Brian wrote:

deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main

It will choose the best mirror at that moment for that download.  See
http://http.debian.net/

Lisi



I think Brian you can use apt-spy to find your fastest mirror!
it will add the list file in the sources.list.d , called apt-spy.list
It is like fastmirror plugin of yum !
 
mudongliang



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Re: [testing] tracker-extract et conso cpu

2015-03-14 Thread Johnny B
tracker-control -r  va killer les process actifs et supprimer les DB. 
(c'est peut etre pour cela que tracker était encore actif)


Reboot ta machine a la Windows (tu as modifié le startup, tracker ne 
peut se lancer au boot)


Il n'y a pas d'autres manipulations à faire, j'ai effectué ces actions 
sur 2 Debian testing et 1 Fedora 21 sans aucun problèmes



On 03/14/2015 01:12 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

Le Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:04:53 +0100
Johnny B frozzensh...@gmail.com a écrit:


Salut,

Pas besoin de le désinstaller il suffit de le désactiver :

- Dans Gnome ouvrir *Search and Indexing *et désactiver l'indexation

comme je l'indique dans un message précédent c'est ce que j'ai fait mais sans
succès.


- Dans un terminal dégager les databases :

*tracker-control -r*

ça j'avais pas fait.


Editer les confs pour désactiver l'autostart

*sudo vim  /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-store.desktop*
*sudo vim  /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-miner-fs.desktop*

Y a pas moyen de le faire dans le compte plutôt qu'au niveau système ?

Gaëtan



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Re: Undocumented manpages

2015-03-14 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-13, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:

 Can't seem to find mkisofs in later versions of Debian, I expect its 
 been superseded by something with a different package name, and/or 
 subsumed under mkfs:

There was a licensing issue and cdrtools (of which mkisofs
was a part) was dropped and replaced by a fork (cdrkit, of which
genisoimage was a fork of mkisofs).

I think.




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Flash update

2015-03-14 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


Most recent version is 11.2.202.451. For i386 that's;
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.451/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz


Regards,
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Re: [testing] tracker-extract et conso cpu

2015-03-14 Thread Johnny B

Salut,

Pas besoin de le désinstaller il suffit de le désactiver :

- Dans Gnome ouvrir *Search and Indexing *et désactiver l'indexation

- Dans un terminal dégager les databases :

*tracker-control -r*

Editer les confs pour désactiver l'autostart

*sudo vim  /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-store.desktop*
*sudo vim  /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-miner-fs.desktop*


Passer les variables à false :

*X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false*

C'est tout ce que j'ai fait sur ma Jessie et c'est un retour au bonheur =)


@+



On 03/14/2015 11:45 AM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

Le Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:46:15 +0100
Haricophile haricoph...@aranha.fr a écrit:


Le Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:14:56 +0100,
Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit :


C'est quoi ce logiciel de m...e ?

Si j'étais juriste, ça serait mon logiciel préféré, installé avec un
bon serveur de documents et sur un PC fixe qui tourne en permanence.

Amha sur un portable c'est une aberration complète qui plombe n'importe
quelle conf, en tout cas sans ssd et pour les cellules des ssd j'ai un
doute... amha. Je ne comprends absolument pas que ce soit installé par
défaut.

Dans mon cas c'est sur une PC fixe qu'il est installé et qu'il me pose
problème. Sur mon portable il ne pose pas problème étrangement.


Si vraiment on veut ce genre de truc, il y a Recoll qui a l'avantage de
ne tourner à la demande. J'ai aussi cru voir que quelqu'un avait remis
Beagle en marche.

Bref, un PC sur Gnome, la première chose que je fais est de virer ce
truc ainsi que gnome-photo dont je n'ai pas vu l'intérêt sinon me
bouffer toutes les ressources.

Si j'essaie de l'enlever il me vire les meta paquets de Gnome ce que je ne
souhaite pas vraiment.

Gaëtan





Re: [testing] tracker-extract et conso cpu

2015-03-14 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:04:53 +0100
Johnny B frozzensh...@gmail.com a écrit:

 Salut,
 
 Pas besoin de le désinstaller il suffit de le désactiver :
 
 - Dans Gnome ouvrir *Search and Indexing *et désactiver l'indexation

comme je l'indique dans un message précédent c'est ce que j'ai fait mais sans
succès.

 
 - Dans un terminal dégager les databases :
 
 *tracker-control -r*

ça j'avais pas fait.

 
 Editer les confs pour désactiver l'autostart
 
 *sudo vim  /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-store.desktop*
 *sudo vim  /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-miner-fs.desktop*

Y a pas moyen de le faire dans le compte plutôt qu'au niveau système ?

Gaëtan

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Re: /usr sin espacio luego de actualizar de squeeze a wheezy

2015-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El vie, 13-03-2015 a las 12:49 -0400, Haylem Candelario Bauzá escribió: 
 El vie, 13-03-2015 a las 13:43 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: 
  El jue, 12-03-2015 a las 18:00 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió: 
   Saludos lista
   
   Hace poco actualice mi pc de escritorio de squeeze a wheezy. Tras
   culminar todo el proceso me di cuenta que /usr se había quedado sin
   espacio. Cuando instale squeeze le había dado 11 Gb de espacio, que se
   consumió al actualizar. Tengo alguna forma de identificar paquetes
   obsoletos que pueda eliminar para ganar espacio? ademas de extender la
   particion (tengo espacio reservado q puedo destinar para eso) hay alguna
   otra estrategia que puedo usar para liberar espacio en /usr?
   
   Xaire
   
   
   -- 
   Paradix  ;)
   
   Haciendo abogacía por el software libre adonde voy
   
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   de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones 
   establecidas
   
   Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/
   
   
  
  deborphan para eliminar paquetes huérfanos (que nadie dependa de ellos)
  locale-purge para eliminar idiomas no usados (en mi caso, ahorré MUCHO
  espacio dejando solo el castellano)
  -- 
  (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-)
  
  
  
 te recomiendo bleachbit tambien, es excelente
no lo conocía, parece una suerte de ccleaner (de win) para linux

 los live CDs de debian 7 que he generado en mi pc les paso
 primero localepurge, luego gtkorphan, luego ailurus y luego bleachbit.
 Tambien puedes usar aptitude -f install  y aptitude clean para limpiar
 aun más
 así el live pesa menos y puedo ponerle más cosas.
en caso de live cd, se me ocurre que podrías hacerlo con un nuevo
usuario: si ni inició sesión, el home quedará limpitio limpito 
 Estos programas limpian de lo mejor.
 
 




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Re: /usr sin espacio luego de actualizar de squeeze a wheezy

2015-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El vie, 13-03-2015 a las 17:53 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: 
 El viernes, 13 mar 2015, a las 17:43 UTC+1 horas,
 Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
 
 El jue, 12-03-2015 a las 18:00 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió: 
  Saludos lista
  
  Hace poco actualice mi pc de escritorio de squeeze a wheezy. Tras
  culminar todo el proceso me di cuenta que /usr se había quedado sin
  espacio. Cuando instale squeeze le había dado 11 Gb de espacio, que se
  consumió al actualizar. Tengo alguna forma de identificar paquetes
  obsoletos que pueda eliminar para ganar espacio? ademas de extender la
  particion (tengo espacio reservado q puedo destinar para eso) hay alguna
  otra estrategia que puedo usar para liberar espacio en /usr?
  
  Xaire
  
  
  -- 
  Paradix  ;)
  
  Haciendo abogacía por el software libre adonde voy
  
  --
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  ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema 
  Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de 
  usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas
  
  Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/
  
  
 
 deborphan para eliminar paquetes huérfanos (que nadie dependa de ellos)
 locale-purge para eliminar idiomas no usados (en mi caso, ahorré MUCHO
 espacio dejando solo el castellano)
 
 ¿No convendría dejar también el inglés, el único idioma en ocasiones?
 
 He pensado en usarlo, no por falta de espacio, sino porque dwww me
 devuelve resultados en todos los idiomas, lo que dificulta encontrar
 algo que pueda entender. ¿Te ha dado algún quebradero de cabeza?

es verdad, reconfiguré localepurge, y vi que había dejado el ingles por
las dudas. Ahora me intriga saber que pasa si lo saco jeje



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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 06:00:
snip
 
 I did add tls_on_connect_ports = 465 to exim4.conf.localmacros, which is
 supposed to cover the SSL on connect issue.
 

Besides the dc_smarthost addition ::465, I added

   protocol = smtps

in the transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost section and didn't
change tls_on_connect_ports. Don't know if this works when adding it in
exim4.conf.localmacros (maybe you try that first?). Also, don't forget to add
an appropriate entry in passwd.client.
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Re: wheezy to testing

2015-03-14 Thread James



On 03/14/2015 12:47 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:08 PM, James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

I'm trying to upgrade wheezy to testing.
I am following the instructions at:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie

I get this error when I try apt-update:

W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot
amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary
20150114-03:58]/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use
apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be
used to add new CD-ROMs

Does anyone know why?


Most likely a misconfigured /etc/apt/sources.list file. Can you post
the contents of it? How are you upgrading the system - over the
network or by using an installation CD?

raju

sources.list:

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20150114-03:58]/ testing main


deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20150114-03:58]/ testing main


deb http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

# testing-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian/ testing-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mirror.its.dal.ca/debian/ testing-updates main contrib 
non-free



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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Juan Carlos Rebate
si leyeras las notificaciones de seguridad de google leerias que
outlook evolution y thunderbird están bloqueadas por google pr estar
consideradas poco seguras, existe una opción en ecurity.google.com que
permite desactivar esto y ahi si permite uarlas pero no se recomienda,
leelo y veras

El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 18:07, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:41:35 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 respondo como permite gmail,

 Eso no es cierto.

 no lo hago a proposito,

 Yo diría que sí, o sencillamente que deberías preocuparte de buscar la
 opción para cambiarlo porque existir, existe.

 no puedo usar evolution ni ningun otro cliente por lo de las
 aplicaciones menos seguras,

 Eso no tiene ningún sentido, lo siento.

 no voy a desactivar la seguridad de google para que me hackeen,

 Esto tiene menos sentido aún. No tienes que desactivar nada de Gmail para
 mandar los correos a la lista en la forma adecuada.

 por lo tanto solo puedo usar la app de google y no tengo culpa de como
 trata los coreos.

 Pues lo siento pero el formato de tus correos no es correcto y si no
 quieres corregirlo poco más puedo hacer :-(

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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Manolo Díaz
El 14 de marzo de 2015, 17:51, Felix Perez
felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:

 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 13:41, Juan Carlos Rebate
 fhuv...@gmail.com escribió:
  respondo como permite gmail, no lo hago a proposito, no puedo usar
  evolution ni ningun otro cliente por lo de las aplicaciones menos
  seguras,

¿Mande? Así que un navegador web es la herramienta segura por excelencia.
Vaya.

  no voy a desactivar la seguridad de google para que me
  hackeen, por lo tanto solo puedo usar la app de google y no tengo
  culpa de como trata los coreos.

 Chan...chan...
 Cría cuervos...

 Que respuesta má¡  Mejor me callo.

Y a veces lo ponen difícil, Felix...

Ya por curiosidad, voy a responder desde la web de Google. Es un
auténtico coñazo, y
habrá que ver cómo llega el correo. Pero por lo pronto parece ser que
puedeo evitar
el top posting, responder en texto sin formato y hacerlo a la lista.
Todo ello con
trabajo extra, claro.

 
  El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 17:11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
  El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:00:39 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:
 
  (sigues respondiendo *encima* de todo, hay que responder *debajo* del
  texto que replicas)
 
  El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 16:54, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
  escribió:
  El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:44:26 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:
 
  abro este nuevo hilo para comentar nueva info ya que el otro no fue
  respondido, resumo.
 
  (...)
 
  Te respondí (pongo el enlace para no repetir de nuevo lo mismo) pero no
  volviste a decir nada:
 
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/03/msg00145.html
 
  si ese si y te respondi yo con los datos, sino lo viste tienes este
  nuevo como referencia, debian 7.8 driver rtl 8187 no hay mas datos que
  te pueda dar
 
  No hay respuesta en ese hilo, quizá lo pasaste a otro.
 



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Re: construire une série de paquets interdépendants

2015-03-14 Thread mrr

On 03/14/2015 11:40 AM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

Le Sat, 14 Mar 2015 06:16:36 +0100
mrr mire...@free.fr a écrit:


On 03/13/2015 11:00 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

J'ai commencé pour l'instant ça se passe bien sauf que l'installation des
paquets via apt-get src ou install est très lente et bloque les accès
disques aux autres applications. Est-ce normal ?

Gaëtan


Je me demande si le problème ne vient pas du fait que la partition sur
laquelle est le chroot est quasi pleine (2% de libre).


Moi, je dirais que c'est une bonne présomption en tout cas.


Perdu ...


Dac.




Par contre je ne sais pas comment déplacer le chroot. J'ai essayé de le
copier ailleurs mais la copie ne s'arrête jamais et dans la destination
quand je fais un du -h j'ai le point qui gonfle, gonfle, gonfle j'ai donc
arrêté (il était à 140Go)


En fait, comment tu t'y prends pour le copier, ton chroot (et tu peux
pas juste te chrooter ailleurs?)?


Comment ça chrooter ailleurs ? Je n'ai pas compris ce que tu veux dire.


Je ne peux pas te répondre vu que j'ignore pourquoi tu utilises un 
chroot à la base. Le chroot permettant d'avoir un système 
(partiellement) isolé du reste du système (de fichier), j'imagine que tu 
l'utilises comme un environnement de programmation ce qui d'ailleurs 
expliquerait que tu cherches à déplacer le chroot au lieu simplement 
d'en créer un autre.

Mais ça c'est que des hypothèses, autant ça a rien à voir.



J'imagine que tu dois ruser un peu (étant donné que dans le chroot tu es
censé être isolé), tu te sers d'un bind mount, tu montes une autre
partition dedans?

En tout cas, il pourrait y avoir un truc récursif derrière ça.



Oui effectivement j'avais fait des bind mount comme préconisé ici:
https://wiki.debian.org/fr/Chroot
une fois retiré le déplacement se passe bien.

Par contre je constate la même lenteur.


Là, je crois qu'il faudrait recommencer au début si tu veux que ça 
avance, quel système (wheezy, jessie...)?


Quel compilateur java?

Qu'est-ce qui est lent, on parle d'une compilation ou d'une installation?

Une mise à jour est-elle lente aussi (des sources ou des données?)?

Peux-tu découper la procédure lente en un maximum de processus, par 
exemple compiler à la main chaque fichier source, résultat?


Utilises-tu une base de données.

Je sais plus mais y'a pas un mode verbose/débug en java, non? (T'es en 
java d'ailleurs, je trouve plus là?)


A l’exécution, c'est lent aussi?

As-tu essayer d'installer un paquet similaire dans ton chroot, résultat?

Peux-tu essayer d'installer ton paquet sur un autre système, résultat?

Si on est bien en java, il ne faut bien sûr pas oublier que c'est jamais 
très rapide le chargement de la machine virtuelle (à l'exécution donc).


Oups, je suis sur ton 1er message, xfce 4.12 + stable/backports, autant 
pour moi!


Ben justement, tu construis xfce, ça veut dire quoi? C'est xfce que tu 
construit? Ou ton programme dépend de xfce? Dans ce cas, peux-tu lancer 
ton programme en mode texte seulement?
(Et pourquoi tu dépendrais de xfce si c'est du java d'ailleurs? Tu 
utilises swing?)



Gaëtan




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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-14 Thread Gary Dale

On 14/03/15 09:34 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 06:00:
snip

I did add tls_on_connect_ports = 465 to exim4.conf.localmacros, which is
supposed to cover the SSL on connect issue.


Besides the dc_smarthost addition ::465, I added

protocol = smtps

in the transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost section and didn't
change tls_on_connect_ports. Don't know if this works when adding it in
exim4.conf.localmacros (maybe you try that first?). Also, don't forget to add
an appropriate entry in passwd.client.


Adding protocol = smtps worked. It had to be added to the 
transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost file. Local_macros 
wouldn't take it.


Thanks!


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Re: Why no security update of apache2 concerning SSLv3?

2015-03-14 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-14, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 In smaller locales, this one county being around 7900 souls, that does 
 happen occasionally. I check the obit page when it comes out on 
 Wednesdays, and if my name isn't listed, I go on doing my things for 
 another week. Its worked well so far... :)


It'd be weird if your name was listed.  Or did Rod Serling already write
that one sixty years ago.  That's the signpost up ahead...


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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 15:46:
 On 14/03/15 09:34 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
 Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 06:00:
 snip
 I did add tls_on_connect_ports = 465 to exim4.conf.localmacros, which is
 supposed to cover the SSL on connect issue.

 Besides the dc_smarthost addition ::465, I added

 protocol = smtps

 in the transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost section and didn't
 change tls_on_connect_ports. Don't know if this works when adding it in
 exim4.conf.localmacros (maybe you try that first?). Also, don't forget to 
 add
 an appropriate entry in passwd.client.
 Ignore previous e-mail. It didn't work. Tried it with and without the
 tls_on_connect_ports line in local_macros.
 
As far as I understand the documentation, tls_on_connect_ports  regards clients
connecting to your exim4 server.

 Also, the entry in passwd.client would be the same as for the unencrypted
 connection, unless I'm missing something.
  
Take a look into the log file. In my case the server exim4 tries to connect to,
does answer with another server name than the one given in dc_smarthost. I
therefore added a line with the name of the responding server and same username
and password.
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Re: actualizar la version de pidgin

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 13 Mar 2015 07:53:32 -0400, luis escribió:

 Tengo instalado el mesenger pidgin en Debian 7.
 Cómo pudiera actualizar el pidgin a la última versión...?

Pidgin es un componente de GNOME y suele tener dependencias fuertes con 
el resto de paquetes y bibliotecas gnomeros por lo que... espera, la 
última versión de Pidgin es la 2.10.11 y Wheezy tiene la 2.20.10 (no lo 
veo disponible en sus backports), un salto muy pequeño.

¿Por qué quieres actualizarlo exactamente?

Sólo te diría que probaras con la versión que hay en Jessie (2.10.11) 
pero si te da algún error de paquetes o conflictos cancela el proceso de 
actualización.

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locale problems

2015-03-14 Thread Frank

The past few days I've been getting mail from anacron
about errors like this:



/etc/cron.daily/man-db:
/usr/bin/mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct


This is the man-db script:



#!/bin/sh
#
# man-db cron daily

set -e

iosched_idle=
# Don't try to change I/O priority in a vserver or OpenVZ.
if ! egrep -q '(envID|VxID):.*[1-9]' /proc/self/status  \
   ([ ! -d /proc/vz ] || [ -d /proc/bc ]); then
iosched_idle='--iosched idle'
fi

if ! [ -d /var/cache/man ]; then
# Recover from deletion, per FHS.
mkdir -p /var/cache/man
chown man:root /var/cache/man || true
chmod 2755 /var/cache/man
fi

# expunge old catman pages which have not been read in a week
if [ ! -d /run/systemd/system ]  [ -d /var/cache/man ]; then
  cd /
  if ! dpkg-statoverride --list /var/cache/man /dev/null 21; then
find /var/cache/man -ignore_readdir_race ! -user man -print0 | \
  xargs -r0 chown -f man || true
  fi
  start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile /dev/null --startas /bin/sh \
--oknodo --chuid man $iosched_idle -- -c \
find /var/cache/man -type f -name '*.gz' -atime +6 -print0 | \
 xargs -r0 rm -f
fi

# regenerate man database
if [ -x /usr/bin/mandb ]; then
# --pidfile /dev/null so it always starts; mandb isn't really a daemon,
# but we want to start it like one.
start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile /dev/null \
  --startas /usr/bin/mandb --oknodo --chuid man \
  $iosched_idle \
  -- --no-purge --quiet
fi
exit 0

This is the output of locale:

LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8


How to go about fixing this ?

Thanks


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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:00:39 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

(sigues respondiendo *encima* de todo, hay que responder *debajo* del 
texto que replicas)

 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 16:54, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:44:26 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 abro este nuevo hilo para comentar nueva info ya que el otro no fue
 respondido, resumo.

 (...)

 Te respondí (pongo el enlace para no repetir de nuevo lo mismo) pero no
 volviste a decir nada:

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/03/msg00145.html

 si ese si y te respondi yo con los datos, sino lo viste tienes este
 nuevo como referencia, debian 7.8 driver rtl 8187 no hay mas datos que
 te pueda dar

No hay respuesta en ese hilo, quizá lo pasaste a otro.

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Re: version that was installed

2015-03-14 Thread James



On 03/14/2015 11:40 AM, Andreas Rönnquist wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 11:15:00 -0400,


Why doesn't /etc/issue say 7.8 though?
Not much of an answer, but in addition to /etc/issue there is
also /etc/debian_version, which does give 7.8.


Thanks.
There should be standard file for all distros. :-)


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Re: version that was installed

2015-03-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 14.03.2015 um 17:11 schrieb James:
 
 
 On 03/14/2015 11:40 AM, Andreas Rönnquist wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 11:15:00 -0400,


 Why doesn't /etc/issue say 7.8 though?
 Not much of an answer, but in addition to /etc/issue there is
 also /etc/debian_version, which does give 7.8.
 
 Thanks.
 There should be standard file for all distros. :-)

It's called os-release (man 7 os-release)


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Re: upgrade versus update.

2015-03-14 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:53 AM,  pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
 I get that dist-upgrade is the replacement of a distribution
 by the subsequent distribution.  Replacement of wheezy by jessie
 for example.  What is meant by upgrade?  In many places it
 appears to be synonymous with update.

 For example, googling site:debian.org update upgrade yields,
 https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades
 Running unattended-upgrades:
 Its[sic] purpose is to keep the computer current with the latest security
 (and other) updates automatically.


When it comes to apt-get, the documentation is equally applicable to
all distributions based off of debian. So there is no point of
restricting your google searches to site:debian.org .

Here is what I found by googling for apt-get upgrade vs update and
the first hit 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/94102/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-get-update-and-upgrade
provides the answer to your question.

Also here are the relevant sections in the man page

$ man apt-get
...
   update
   update is used to resynchronize the package index files
from their sources. The indexes of available packages are fetched from
the location(s) specified in
   /etc/apt/sources.list. For example, when using a Debian
archive, this command retrieves and scans the Packages.gz files, so
that information about new and updated
   packages is available. An update should always be performed
before an upgrade or dist-upgrade. Please be aware that the overall
progress meter will be incorrect as
   the size of the package files cannot be known in advance.

   upgrade
   upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all
packages currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated
in /etc/apt/sources.list. Packages
   currently installed with new versions available are
retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are currently installed
packages removed, or packages not
   already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of
currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without changing
the install status of another
   package will be left at their current version. An update
must be performed first so that apt-get knows that new versions of
packages are available.

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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Juan Carlos Rebate
respondo como permite gmail, no lo hago a proposito, no puedo usar
evolution ni ningun otro cliente por lo de las aplicaciones menos
seguras, no voy a desactivar la seguridad de google para que me
hackeen, por lo tanto solo puedo usar la app de google y no tengo
culpa de como trata los coreos.

El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 17:11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:00:39 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 (sigues respondiendo *encima* de todo, hay que responder *debajo* del
 texto que replicas)

 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 16:54, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:44:26 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 abro este nuevo hilo para comentar nueva info ya que el otro no fue
 respondido, resumo.

 (...)

 Te respondí (pongo el enlace para no repetir de nuevo lo mismo) pero no
 volviste a decir nada:

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/03/msg00145.html

 si ese si y te respondi yo con los datos, sino lo viste tienes este
 nuevo como referencia, debian 7.8 driver rtl 8187 no hay mas datos que
 te pueda dar

 No hay respuesta en ese hilo, quizá lo pasaste a otro.

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Re: Múltiples host names para un equipo

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:55:09 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:

 El día 12 de marzo de 2015, 14:39, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

(...)

 No me refiero al alias, donde en una red, se puede usar más de un
 nombre de host, siento TODOS visibles en forma indistinta.
 Me refiero a que desde la red intranet NO SEA VISIBLE el host
 internet21, y desde internet NO SEA VISIBLE intranet11.

 Eso ya lo veo más complicado, es decir, como una configuración
 estática.
 Aunque curiosamente en Solaris (y quizá en otros sistemas UNIX) parece
 que esa configuración sí es posible:

 Assigning two hostname to single server
 http://www.unix.com/solaris/93371-assigning-two-hostname-single-
 server.html

 Justamente esa página ya la había visto, y por ¿inducción? de lo que
 indica para Solaris, es que llegué a la instrucción hostname para las
 interfaces.
 Es más, es la única página que encontré que se acercaba a lo que estaba
 buscando.
 Pero no he encontrado nada más extenso de dicha instrucción de lo que
 las man indican.
 Y pero aún, ningún ejemplo.

Es que Solaris es mundo aparte. No sé si estará disponible la misma 
opción en Linux (el manual apunta que el formato de la tabla hosts está 
desarrollado en el RFC 952). 

En cuanto a la visibilidad desde/hacia las dos redes el nombre de equipo 
(hostname) no interviene en nada, dependerá de cómo tengas configurados 
los dos adaptadores de red y las conexiones físicas de los propios 
equipos de red que tendrían que estar separados por vlans/puentes/
enrutamiento según el acceso/comunicación/visibilidad que quieres que 
tengan entre ellos.

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Acces à CUPS impossible avec le FQDN

2015-03-14 Thread Michel
Bonjour,

J'ai eu récemment des soucis d'accès à différentes interfaces (phpmyadmin, 
phpldapadmin, torrentflux, cacti, etc.) sur mon serveur. Un mauvais réglage des 
fichiers apache a pu résoudre les problèmes.


Mais CUPS me résiste toujours ! Et que pense que Squid est peut-être à 
l'origine de tout ça.
L'accès à l'interface de CUPS avec l'IP est possible (192.168.0.2:631). Par 
contre avec le FQDN (canoe.homeg.lan:631) me donne ceci dans les logs :

== /var/log/cups/error_log ==
E [14/Mar/2015:16:07:26 +0100] Request from localhost using invalid Host: 
field canoe.homeg.lan:631

== /var/log/squid/access.log ==
1426345646.467  1 192.168.0.78 TCP_MISS/400 681 GET 
http://canoe.homeg.lan:631/cups.css - DIRECT/127.0.0.1 text/html

Une idée ?

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Re: Wi-fi no establece conexión a Internet al arrancar el sistema.

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 12 Mar 2015 21:54:37 -0600, lividineitor . escribió:

(...)

 Bajo prueba y error, encontré que la conexión se corregía ejecutando en
 cada uno de los eventos antes mencionados un dhclient wlan0, a lo que
 me aparece que el documento ya existe y en ese momento la conexión se
 establece.
 
 Pienso que hacer un script que se ejecute al inicio no es la manera más
 elegante o la correcta de manejar el problema. Así que recurro a su
 infinita experiencia.

Prueba a configurar una IP fija en la tableta (sin usar DHCP) para 
comprobar si el problema se centra en la comunicación con el servidor. Si 
con una IP fija desaparece el problema quedaría descartado el driver del 
adaptador inalámbrico y habría que investigar por qué le cuesta tanto 
renovar u obtener datos del servidor DHCP pero para paliar el problema 
podrías configurar una renovación de los datos cada menos tiempo o que 
éstos fueran vitalicios.

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Re: Una de regex: imprimir primera ocurrencia

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:20:01 +0100, José Miguel (sio2) escribió:

 Un saludo a la lista:
 
 Supongamos que tenemos una cadena (de una sóla línea) en la que se
 pueden encontrar muchas direcciones mac, pero me interesa imprimir sólo
 la primera de ellas. ¿Cuál creéis es la forma más eficiente de hacerlo?

Puedes medir lo que tarda la instrucción con time.

 Se me ocurren varias, pero no sé muy bien cuál usar. Por ejemplo, esta
 me parece poco eficiente:
 
 $ echo $LINEA | grep -oP '(?:[\da-f]{1,2}:){5}[\da-f]{1,2}' | head -1
 
 Porque implica revisar toda la cadena, extraer todas las MAC y luego
 quedarse con la primera que se encontró. Además se llama a dos comandos
 independientes: grep y head.
 
 Esta:
 
 $ perl -e ''$LINEA' =~ /((?:[\da-f]{1,2}:){5}[\da-f]{1,2})/ ; print
 $1'
 
 usa perl, pero no sé si perl será pesado de cargar, ni tampoco sé muy
 bien cómo actua: si deja de analizar la línea al encontrar la ocurrencia
 o no si lo hace. Imagino que a poco que esté bien pensado parará.

Yo me decantaría por grep, está integrado en bash, debería ir más rápido 
que cualquier otro comando externo aunque dependerá del tipo y cantidad 
de datos a buscar/filtrar por lo que nada mejor que hacer pruebas con los 
dos.

Por aquí comentan algo parecido:

Grep Regex for Mac Address
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10318021/grep-regex-for-mac-address

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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:44:26 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 abro este nuevo hilo para comentar nueva info ya que el otro no fue
 respondido, resumo.

(...)

Te respondí (pongo el enlace para no repetir de nuevo lo mismo) pero no 
volviste a decir nada:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/03/msg00145.html

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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Juan Carlos Rebate
si ese si y te respondi yo con los datos, sino lo viste tienes este
nuevo como referencia, debian 7.8 driver rtl 8187 no hay mas datos que
te pueda dar

El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 16:54, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:44:26 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 abro este nuevo hilo para comentar nueva info ya que el otro no fue
 respondido, resumo.

 (...)

 Te respondí (pongo el enlace para no repetir de nuevo lo mismo) pero no
 volviste a decir nada:

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/03/msg00145.html

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wheezy to testing

2015-03-14 Thread James

I'm trying to upgrade wheezy to testing.
I am following the instructions at:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie

I get this error when I try apt-update:

W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official 
Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 
20150114-03:58]/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use 
apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot 
be used to add new CD-ROMs


Does anyone know why?


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Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-14 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net wrote:
 hi,

 I get an unusable download dialog in firefox (iceweasel) of current
 jessie (updated this morning):
   http://www2.inf.fh-brs.de/~fnatte2s/firefox-empty-buttons2.png

 Clicking on the half-displayed buttons is a no-op.

 I can reproduce it by clicking on woodstox-core-src-V.tar.gz on
 http://wiki.fasterxml.com/WoodstoxDownload (see screenshot above).

 Freeciv-gtk[23] work fine (also gtk intensive applications).


What is Freeciv-gtk[23]? FWIW, when I go to
http://wiki.fasterxml.com/WoodstoxDownload and try to download
woodstox-core-src-V.tar.gz , I do not see any problem.

I am using iceweasel 31.4.0esr-1~deb7u1 on a machine running a
combination of Jessie and Wheezy.

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Re: wheezy to testing

2015-03-14 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:08 PM, James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 I'm trying to upgrade wheezy to testing.
 I am following the instructions at:
 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie

 I get this error when I try apt-update:

 W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot
 amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary
 20150114-03:58]/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use
 apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be
 used to add new CD-ROMs

 Does anyone know why?


Most likely a misconfigured /etc/apt/sources.list file. Can you post
the contents of it? How are you upgrading the system - over the
network or by using an installation CD?

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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-14 Thread Gary Dale

On 14/03/15 09:34 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

Gary Dale wrote on 03/14/2015 06:00:
snip

I did add tls_on_connect_ports = 465 to exim4.conf.localmacros, which is
supposed to cover the SSL on connect issue.


Besides the dc_smarthost addition ::465, I added

protocol = smtps

in the transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost section and didn't
change tls_on_connect_ports. Don't know if this works when adding it in
exim4.conf.localmacros (maybe you try that first?). Also, don't forget to add
an appropriate entry in passwd.client.
Ignore previous e-mail. It didn't work. Tried it with and without the 
tls_on_connect_ports line in local_macros.


Also, the entry in passwd.client would be the same as for the 
unencrypted connection, unless I'm missing something.



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Re: Why no security update of apache2 concerning SSLv3?

2015-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett


On Saturday 14 March 2015 10:51:53 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-03-14, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  In smaller locales, this one county being around 7900 souls, that
  does happen occasionally. I check the obit page when it comes out on
  Wednesdays, and if my name isn't listed, I go on doing my things for
  another week. Its worked well so far... :)

 It'd be weird if your name was listed.  Or did Rod Serling already
 write that one sixty years ago.  That's the signpost up ahead...

Rod beat me to it I'm afraid.  He, like Sir Terry Pratchet(sp?), plowed 
lots of way out there ground.

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version that was installed

2015-03-14 Thread James
I wanted to go to the Debian web site and get the bittorrent so I could 
seed it.


The directory looks like there is more than one iso

The installed version is:
$ cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l

The label on my flash drive is:
Debian wheezy 20150114-03:59

I suspect I installed from a single Live iso.
Can anyone confirm?


Why doesn't /etc/issue say 7.8 though?


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Re: Formato de los correos (era: problema con drivers wifi)

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 12 Mar 2015 18:50:19 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 El día 12 de marzo de 2015, 18:44, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Thu, 12 Mar 2015 18:33:25 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 uso la app de gmail porque es mas comoo para mi dado que no estoy en
 casa, y google la configura como ellos quiere,

 Pues mejor espera a llegar a casa.

 bueno podrias ayudarme con el driver amigo?

 Sí, claro, pero responde mejor en el otro hilo¹, sin usar formato html
 y escribiendo debajo del texto al que respondes, no encima. Vamos,
 respetando todas las normas de la lista² que te has saltado ;-)

 ¹https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/03/msg00145.html
 ²https://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista

 yo no me las salto hago lo que la app me permite, respondi lo que me
 preguntaron, cual era el firmware, cual era el driver, que versión de
 debian tengo.
 respondi todo, y justo debajo, no tengo culpa que google trate los
 correos como si fuesen chats o twits

Puedes esperar a tener acceso a un cliente de correo que respeta las 
normas de la lista o corregir los errores de las app manualmente. No 
hay excusas que valgan, lo siento :-(

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[OT] Re: Agregar plugin en pidgin

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 13 Mar 2015 07:56:02 -0400, luis escribió:

 Tengo instalado pidgin en equipos Linux y en algunos Microsoft.
 
 En linux me fue sencillo añadir plugin d ecorrector ortográfico en
 español.
 
 Como bajar he instalar el plugin de ortografía en español para los que
 tengo montado en Miicrosoft Win7 ???

¿Preguntando en la lista de Windows 7 o en la Pidgin? ¿Preguntado al 
desarrollador del plugin? ¿Leyendo la documentación oficial? 
¿Buscando en Internet?

Installing Plugins / Windows 
https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins#Windows

How to manually install spell check into Pidgin [Windows] 
http://www.techfurs.net/blog/how-to-manually-install-spell-check-into-pidgin-windows

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Re: version that was installed

2015-03-14 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 11:15:00 -0400,
Jamesbjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

I wanted to go to the Debian web site and get the bittorrent so I
could seed it.

The directory looks like there is more than one iso

The installed version is:
$ cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l

The label on my flash drive is:
Debian wheezy 20150114-03:59

I suspect I installed from a single Live iso.
Can anyone confirm?


Why doesn't /etc/issue say 7.8 though?

Not much of an answer, but in addition to /etc/issue there is
also /etc/debian_version, which does give 7.8.

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Re: visio sous Jessie

2015-03-14 Thread Guy Roussin
Bonsoir,

Bizarre, j'ai beaucoup moins de librairies, utilises-tu la même version
de skype ?

# skype -version
Skype 4.3.0.37
© 2014 Skype and/or Microsoft

# apt-cache policy skype
skype:i386:
  Installé : 4.3.0.37-1
  Candidat : 4.3.0.37-1
 Table de version :
 *** 4.3.0.37-1 0

Si ce n'est pas le cas, il faut mettre à jour.

Sinon tu ne dis pas quelle est le type de problème rencontré ...

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Le 13/03/2015 19:28, Jose CHARTERS a écrit :
 Le 13/03/2015 16:22, Guy Roussin a écrit :
 Pas de pb ici avec skype ... que donne ldd /usr/bin/skype ?
 root@limoges:/home/jose# ldd /usr/bin/skype
 linux-gate.so.1 (0xb7718000)
 libXv.so.1 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXv.so.1 (0xb5477000)
 libXss.so.1 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXss.so.1 (0xb5474000)
 librt.so.1 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/librt.so.1 (0xb546b000)
 libdl.so.2 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb5466000)
 libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0xb5314000)
 libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0xb52fe000)
 libQtDBus.so.4 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so.4 (0xb527c000)
 libQtWebKit.so.4 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtWebKit.so.4
 (0xb2e92000)
 libQtXml.so.4 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtXml.so.4 (0xb2e4e000)
 libQtGui.so.4 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4 (0xb2339000)
 libQtNetwork.so.4 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtNetwork.so.4
 (0xb21e)
 libQtCore.so.4 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 (0xb1edb000)
 libpthread.so.0 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
 (0xb1ebf000)
 libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb1dcd000)
 libm.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb1d87000)
 libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb1d69000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb1bbf000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb771b000)
 libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0xb1b99000)
 libdbus-1.so.3 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdbus-1.so.3 (0xb1b43000)
 libz.so.1 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0xb1b26000)
 libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 (0xb1b19000)
 libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libjpeg.so.62 (0xb1aba000)
 libpng12.so.0 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 (0xb1a8d000)
 libgstapp-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgstapp-1.0.so.0
 (0xb1a7e000)
 libgstpbutils-1.0.so.0 =
 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgstpbutils-1.0.so.0 (0xb1a53000)
 libgstvideo-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgstvideo-1.0.so.0
 (0xb1a01000)
 libgstaudio-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgstaudio-1.0.so.0
 (0xb19a8000)
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Re: Problemas al Instalar Jessie - No detecta disco duro sino iSCSI

2015-03-14 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:35:03 -0500, Edwin De La Cruz escribió:

(ese html...)

 Saludos a todos.
 Necesito de su ayuda.
 Estoy tratando de instalar Debian Jessie en una maquina que tiene win7.
 No me interesa conservar win7.
 Cuando booteo desde el DVD todo va bien hasta el punto de particionado
 del disco:
 
 No me detecta el disco duro (creo) 

¿?

¿Cómo que creo? :-)

Si no estás seguro saca una foto y súbela a www.picpaste.com o cualquier 
otro sitio.

 y me pide que configure un iSCSI,
 donde los parametros de configuracion son una IP y un nombre (es
 opcional).
 Pues lo unico que se me ha ocurrido es ingresar 127.0.0.1 o localhost
 pero me da error, no tengo idea de como configurar ya que normalmente en
 este paso me deberia aparecer el disco duro para poder trabajar en el.
 
 El disco es un SATA de 500G Seagate.
 La mainboard es una Gigabit GA-A55M-DS2.

Esa placa base parece de las normalitas, vamos, convencional.

 Entre las configuraciones del Bios hay una opcion del disco que dice mas
 o menos - Native IDE - RAID - AHCI

¿Y cuál de ellas está seleccionada? Con AHCI debería ser suficiente.

 Las he probado en todas las opciones con el mismo resultado.

 He buscado en google pero respecto a iSCSI he encontrado como hacerlo
 funcionar el Linux pero ya instalado, en ningun lugar he encontrado como
 hacerlo durante la instalacion o como hacer para que el instalador me
 detecte el disco duro como SATA que es lo que realmente es.

Carallo... ¿sabes si el equipo tiene instala alguna controladora de disco 
duro adicional? Porque los sistemas iSCSI suelen verse en equipos de 
empresa con varias cabinas y disco duros...

 Espero su guia en este problema.

Ah, mira... parece que es aplaca es conflictiva:

mint14 - Mate problem installing motherboard GA-A55M-DS2
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=127437

 Perdon por el HTML, es que no estoy en mi maquina.

No es excusa :-(

Saludos,

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Re: version that was installed

2015-03-14 Thread David Christensen

On 03/14/2015 08:15 AM, James wrote:

I wanted to go to the Debian web site and get the bittorrent so I could
seed it.
The directory looks like there is more than one iso
The installed version is:
$ cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
The label on my flash drive is:
Debian wheezy 20150114-03:59
I suspect I installed from a single Live iso.
Can anyone confirm?
Why doesn't /etc/issue say 7.8 though?


It sounds like you want one of these:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/bt-hybrid/


David



2015-03-14 09:26:15 root@i72600s ~
# cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l


2015-03-14 09:26:20 root@i72600s ~
# cat /etc/debian_version
7.8

2015-03-14 09:26:25 root@i72600s ~
# ls -ld /media/Debian\ 7.8.0\ amd64\ 1/
dr-xr-xr-x 1 dpchrist dpchrist 4096 Jan 10 06:42 /media/Debian 7.8.0 
amd64 1/




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Re: version that was installed

2015-03-14 Thread David Christensen

On 03/14/2015 09:16 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:

It's called os-release (man 7 os-release)


2015-03-14 09:28:56 dpchrist@i72600s ~
$ man 7 os-release
No manual entry for os-release in section 7

2015-03-14 09:28:59 dpchrist@i72600s ~
$ man os-release
No manual entry for os-release

2015-03-14 09:30:24 dpchrist@i72600s ~
$ apropos release
db5.1_upgrade (1)- Upgrade the Berkeley DB version to the current 
release...

lsb_release (1)  - print distribution-specific information

2015-03-14 09:31:35 dpchrist@i72600s ~
$ locate os-release
/etc/os-release

2015-03-14 09:32:27 dpchrist@i72600s ~
$ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME=Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)
NAME=Debian GNU/Linux
VERSION_ID=7
VERSION=7 (wheezy)
ID=debian
ANSI_COLOR=1;31
HOME_URL=http://www.debian.org/;
SUPPORT_URL=http://www.debian.org/support/;
BUG_REPORT_URL=http://bugs.debian.org/;


David


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Re: wheezy to testing

2015-03-14 Thread David Christensen

On 03/14/2015 09:08 AM, James wrote:

I'm trying to upgrade wheezy to testing.
I am following the instructions at:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie
I get this error when I try apt-update:
W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official
Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary
20150114-03:58]/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use
apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot
be used to add new CD-ROMs
Does anyone know why?


Because the package manager (Apt, possibly others) is complaining that 
it can't find packages:


https://wiki.debian.org/Apt

https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList


This is a helpful utility for generating a sources.list file:

http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/


But if goal is to install Debian Jessie amd64, I'd download the latest 
Jessie amd64 netinst weekly build and use that:



cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso


David


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Re: wheezy to testing

2015-03-14 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:45 PM, David Christensen
dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
 On 03/14/2015 09:08 AM, James wrote:

 I'm trying to upgrade wheezy to testing.
 I am following the instructions at:

 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie
 I get this error when I try apt-update:
 W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official
 Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary
 20150114-03:58]/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use
 apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot
 be used to add new CD-ROMs
 Does anyone know why?



 But if goal is to install Debian Jessie amd64, I'd download the latest
 Jessie amd64 netinst weekly build and use that:


 cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso


The net installation image is not necessary in this case. The OP is
trying to upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie. The net installation image is
only useful if the user is installing a brand new installation (not
for upgrading).

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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-14 Thread Felix Perez
El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 13:41, Juan Carlos Rebate
fhuv...@gmail.com escribió:
 respondo como permite gmail, no lo hago a proposito, no puedo usar
 evolution ni ningun otro cliente por lo de las aplicaciones menos
 seguras, no voy a desactivar la seguridad de google para que me
 hackeen, por lo tanto solo puedo usar la app de google y no tengo
 culpa de como trata los coreos.

Chan...chan...
Cría cuervos...

Que respuesta má¡  Mejor me callo.


 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 17:11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:00:39 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 (sigues respondiendo *encima* de todo, hay que responder *debajo* del
 texto que replicas)

 El día 14 de marzo de 2015, 16:54, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:44:26 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 abro este nuevo hilo para comentar nueva info ya que el otro no fue
 respondido, resumo.

 (...)

 Te respondí (pongo el enlace para no repetir de nuevo lo mismo) pero no
 volviste a decir nada:

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/03/msg00145.html

 si ese si y te respondi yo con los datos, sino lo viste tienes este
 nuevo como referencia, debian 7.8 driver rtl 8187 no hay mas datos que
 te pueda dar

 No hay respuesta en ese hilo, quizá lo pasaste a otro.




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Re: Formato de los correos (era: problema con drivers wifi)

2015-03-14 Thread Felix Perez
El día 12 de marzo de 2015, 14:50, Juan Carlos Rebate
fhuv...@gmail.com escribió:
 yo no me las salto hago lo que la app me permite, respondi lo que me
 preguntaron, cual era el firmware, cual era el driver, que versión de
 debian tengo.
 respondi todo, y justo debajo, no tengo culpa que google trate los
 correos como si fuesen chats o twits

Noo, en serio.
Ufff lo que hay que leer de vez en cuando por aquí.

A ver vamos busca top posting en la wiipedia, vamos no muerde, y
no sea malito.


 El día 12 de marzo de 2015, 18:44, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 12 Mar 2015 18:33:25 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:

 uso la app de gmail porque es mas comoo para mi dado que no estoy en
 casa, y google la configura como ellos quiere,

 Pues mejor espera a llegar a casa.

 bueno podrias ayudarme con el driver amigo?

 Sí, claro, pero responde mejor en el otro hilo¹, sin usar formato html y
 escribiendo debajo del texto al que respondes, no encima. Vamos,
 respetando todas las normas de la lista² que te has saltado ;-)

 ¹https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/03/msg00145.html
 ²https://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista

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