Re: Node.JS sur Debian, pour ou contre ?

2015-03-24 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour,

Le lundi 23 mars 2015 à 20:50, Philippe Gras a écrit :
 Qui a installé Node.js sur son serveur Debian ?

Je l'ai fait.

 Avez-vous installé un paquet Debian ou d'ailleurs ?

J'ai rétroporté les paquet de testing pour ma stable.

 Pouvez-vous montrer un exemple de ce que vous avez fait avec ?

Pas énormément de choses pour l'instant. J'ai plusieurs outils en JavaScript,
mais pas tous en Node.js (j'ai un lecteur multimédia basé sur Node-Webkit, j'ai
un outil de « scraping » basé sur CasperJS).

En pur Node.js, j'ai convertisseur de flux RSS vers e-mail. J'étais las de ne
pas trouver « le Mutt des lecteurs de news », j'ai donc apporté les news dans
Mutt.

Les avantages de Node.js par rapport à un autre environnement sont directement
les avantages de JavaScript par rapport aux autres langages (selon l'autre
langage en question, tous ces points ne sont pas forcément valables) :
- asynchronisme,
- typage des variables,
- promises,
- etc.

On trouve un écosystème assez intéressant de modules qui permettent de
programmer à un assez haut niveau.

Au niveau des inconvénients, là encore, on a les inconvénients de JavaScript
(tiens, par pure perversion, je vais mettre les mêmes que ceux que j'ai listés
en avantages) :
- asynchronisme,
- typage des variables,
- promises,
- etc.

Bref, comme pour tout langage / environnement, il a du pour et du contre et il
ne sera pas la solution à tous tes besoins (et c'est malheureusement après
quelques échecs que tu t'en rendras compte).

Sébastien

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Debian Jessie, gnome-panel no menu.

2015-03-24 Thread Luigi Bianchi

Hi,

I have installed Debian 8 Jessie (amd64) on samsung N150.

With old installation Debian 7.8 I was using netspeed applet on top panel bar and cpu-load and sensors applets on bottom one.

Now with new installation Debian 8, I cant invoke panel menu with alt-right_mouse_button. So I cant insert applets on panels.

I read about metacity window manager issue alt key, but on my system there isnt metacity. I dont understand which window-manager has been used.

How to invoke panel menu?
How to add applets to panel?


Thanks



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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL [SOLVED]

2015-03-24 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Gary Dale wrote on 03/24/2015 04:49:
snip
 The problem seems to have been the location of the protocol = smtps line. I 
 had
 it originally in
 /etc/exim4/conf.d/transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost. Moving it 
 to
 /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template seems to have done the trick.
 

Didn't think of that. In order to see which configuration is actually used, I
think, one should check the automatically generated file
/var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated .
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Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:59:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
 
 Someone suggested it, and I was a sucker. :)  Both have now been excised, 
 no effect that I can hear.  But iceweasal is frozen again, the *%$ back 
 button does NOT work on cbsnews.com.  Everyone but bbcnews is playing 
 with your controls, and cbs seems to be the worst offender. When it 
 refuses to go back, sometimes closing the tab works, occasionally the 
 close button on the browser works, but I keep a root exec'd copy of htop 
 running just so I can have the last word.  And I have to use it about 
 25% of the time to exit iceweasal.  

Yep, Iceweasel is a *real* pig! 

 But that problem is a separate 
 thread Request Entity too Large.  No clue it its related, but get 
 firefox will get a visit soon if I can't get this under control.

Ummm, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, just with the advertising removed. :)

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Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread Ron
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:47:40 +1300
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:

 Ummm, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, just with the advertising removed. :)

What advertising ? Been using Firefox for a long time, did not see any ads.

And using Firefox (downloaded and untar'd in /opt, with a single link to 
/usr/bin) helps keep up to date, as it is now 36.0.3 whereas Iceweasel is still 
at ? 31.5.3 ?
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 02:47:40AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:59:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
  
  Someone suggested it, and I was a sucker. :)  Both have now been excised, 
  no effect that I can hear.  But iceweasal is frozen again, the *%$ back 
  button does NOT work on cbsnews.com.  Everyone but bbcnews is playing 
  with your controls, and cbs seems to be the worst offender. When it 
  refuses to go back, sometimes closing the tab works, occasionally the 
  close button on the browser works, but I keep a root exec'd copy of htop 
  running just so I can have the last word.  And I have to use it about 
  25% of the time to exit iceweasal.  
 
 Yep, Iceweasel is a *real* pig! 
 
  But that problem is a separate 
  thread Request Entity too Large.  No clue it its related, but get 
  firefox will get a visit soon if I can't get this under control.
 
 Ummm, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, just with the advertising removed. :)

Actually, there's [quite a bit more][1] to it than that. The primary
motivation behind Iceweasel is actually security patches, rather than
privacy/freedom concerns. Due to the release schedule of Debian, the
plan was to freeze on one version of Firefox, and backport security
fixes to that during the life of Stable (just like every other package
works). However, Mozilla decreed that such a modification would create a
derivative version of Firefox and that this was not allowed.

So, the options left available to the Debian Developers were to freeze Firefox
into stable and NOT fix security problems (which is clearly not a nice
thing to do to users), to provide regular updates of Firefox to stable
users (which goes against the philosophy of Stable), or to comply with
Mozilla's wishes to de-brand the patched Firefox. Thus IceWeasel was
born.



[1]: https://sources.debian.net/src/iceweasel/31.5.3esr-1/debian/patches/

 
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Re: ifupdown en jessie, iproute2 e interfaces bridge

2015-03-24 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:43:29 +0100, José Miguel (sio2) escribió:

 El Sat, 21 de Mar de 2015, a las 09:10:14PM +, Camaleón dijo:
 
 Ya. y para crear una vlan tienes que usar vconfig o iproute2 y, sin
 embargo, ifupdown se las avía (a través de iproute2) desde hace un
 tiempo para crearlas. En este caso, no creo que esa lógica funcione.
 
 Tú lo has dicho: a través de iproute2 ;-)
 
 Bueno, algo tiene que acabar usando de forma interna, ¿no?

Pues es lo que te he estado diciendo desde el principio, que sólo conozco 
3 herramientas que te permiten crear interfaces puente (brctl, iproute2 y 
systemd), que a través del archivo /etc/network/interfaces lo único que 
haces es gestionar las interfaces que ya están creadas.

 El caso es que para tratar las vlan ifupdown no necesita instalar
 vconfig (se basta con iproute2), pero para tratar bridges, sí se
 necesita bridge-utils a pesar de que iproute2 ya los soporta. O eso
 parece. Mi pregunta iba dirigida a sí había alguna sintaxis nueva que
 yo no había logrado encontrar que prescindiera de bridge-utils y de
 scripts en los directorios if-up.d, etc.

La orden concreta para generar un dispositivo puente está en las páginas 
man de las aplicaciones que puedes usar para crearas, bridge-utils e 
iproute2 (sobre cómo las genera systemd mejor no entro).

 Simplemente eso. Y la razón de que preguntara se debía a que a veces no
 sé muy bien si estoy leyendo lo último sobre debian o no. ¿Que los
 usuarios de debian tiene parte de culpa porque no documentan tan bien
 como los de archlinux? Bien puede ser: no entro a valorar eso. Tan sólo
 he dicho que me causa envidia sana la excelente documentación de
 archlinux.

Pues a mí no siempre me causa envidia, quizá para las cosas tontunas sí 
encuentro más información en la wiki de Archlinux pero para las cosas 
serias raramente encuentras algo, se queda corto.

 Desgraciadamente en este caso, la información es sobre una
 herramienta de debian y sólo puedo recurrir a debian (o a alguna de
 sus derivadas).
 
 Si te refieres a las bridge-utils están disponibles en varias
 distribuciones.
 
 No, me refiero a cómo crear puentes usando ifupdown, o sea, escribiendo
 la configuración en el fichero interfaces. Sobre cómo usar directamente
 brtcl ya sé que puedo recurrir a cualquier página que trate los
 bridges con linux.

No puedes crear puentes usando ifupdown, puedes gestionarlos. Los 
puentes los generan las herramientas iproute2 o brctl.

 Al final, me he hecho unos scripts propios que usan iproute2: así puedo
 crear también switches vlan (brtcl no los soporta).

Pues estupendo :-)

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Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 24 March 2015 09:47:40 Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:59:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Someone suggested it, and I was a sucker. :)  Both have now been
  excised, no effect that I can hear.  But iceweasal is frozen again,
  the *%$ back button does NOT work on cbsnews.com.  Everyone but
  bbcnews is playing with your controls, and cbs seems to be the worst
  offender. When it refuses to go back, sometimes closing the tab
  works, occasionally the close button on the browser works, but I
  keep a root exec'd copy of htop running just so I can have the last
  word.  And I have to use it about 25% of the time to exit iceweasal.

 Yep, Iceweasel is a *real* pig!

No moreso than my last experience with firefox.  See below...

  But that problem is a separate
  thread Request Entity too Large.  No clue it its related, but get
  firefox will get a visit soon if I can't get this under control.

 Ummm, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, just with the advertising removed. :)

And, last night after disabling new cookies, and nuking a lengthy list of 
them that had adv agency like names, my nightly tour of the webs 
mainsleave news sites was, for the first time in 3 or 4 years, 
enjoyable.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-24 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote:

 I tested around a bit with squid3+squidguard and I found out that the
 redirect works with the Internet Explorer (IE 11).

 Then I tested some other browser (firefox, chrome, ..) and with all
 the other browser the redirect didn't work.

 Is there a bug in the Internet Explorer or is this because the IE
 handle https on an other way?

Hard to guess since you never told us exactly what your configuration in
squid3, squidguard and the browser is, what exactly you do to get a
specific result (error page, redirected page, etc.).

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Disk quota exceeded ... but no quota are defined.

2015-03-24 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 05:05:46AM +0100, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
Hello to All,
 
my debian server is freezed with quota exceeded but there is no quota
installed on it.
 
Debian version is :
uname -a
Linux vps622 2.6.32-042stab103.6 #1 SMP Wed Jan 21 13:07:39 MSK 2015 i686
GNU/Linux
 
No quota are setup and disk is not full as only 3% of usage are reported :
 
sudo df -h
 
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/simfs  160G  3.8G  157G   3% /
tmpfs   205M   72K  205M   1% /run
tmpfs   5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs   410M 0  410M   0% /run/shm
 
mount does not indicate quota setup :
 
/vz/private/622 on / type simfs (rw,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=209716k,mode=755)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=419420k)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts
(rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
sudo du -ch  /run
72K    /run
72K    total
 
But all services are freezed with quota exeeded errors.
when I log :
zsh: locking failed for /home/bruno/.histfile: disk quota exceeded:
reading anyway
 
Or in postfix logs  :
Mar 24 04:44:52 vps622 postfix/cleanup[2727]: warning: mail_queue_enter:
create file incoming/181079.2727: Disk quota exceeded
..etc..
 
Also MySQL also cannot be started.
Once rebooted the server is fine only few minutes before facing quota
exceeded.
I cannot find any quota setup.
And indeed there is no quota packages installed neither.
dpkg -l | grep quota
--- nothing.
 
How to check this quota problem ?
Thanks for any help or clue.

I don't know much about OpenVZ, but a quick bit of searching tells me
that your container has run out of space/inodes quota. That is, although
the operating system within the container can see plenty of space, the
supervising operating system is refusing to allow more allocation and
this is filtering down to the guest.

Apparently, running something like vzctl set VZID --save -diskinodes
x:y might help.

 
Bye
Bruno


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Re: Créer boot Grub avec super grub disk sur clé usb

2015-03-24 Thread mireero

On 03/23/2015 06:00 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

On Monday 23 March 2015 15:31:18 mireero wrote:

On 03/23/2015 12:40 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

Gparted par Live Toutou-Linux montre toutes les partitions :
sda1 = NTFS
sda2 = NTFS
sda3 = NTFS (Windows 8)
sda4 = partition étendue
sda5 = NTFS (recovery)
J'ai créé via rsync :


Whao, bravo, il en fait des trucs, rsync!
Non, plus sérieusement, t'as genre copié un debian distant dans sda6?

sda6 = Wheezy (ext4)
sda7 = swap


Oui, c'est très simple :
# mkdir /media/sda6
# mount /media/sda6
# rsync -av --exclude=... ip_pc_distant_avec_ssh:/  /media/sda6/


Donc tu copies un wheezy distant dans un chroot local. Je trouve ça fort 
quand même, copier un OS directement sur un autre PC, faut dire que ça 
assure chez Linux!
Donc c'est pour ça que tu te retrouves avec une distribution 32 bits si 
j'ai bien compris.


Peut-être que ton souci vient du grub copié, ça ne peut pas faire de mal de:
aptitude purge grub  aptitude install grub (je suis pas sûr que 
reinstall purge bien la conf)

ou supprimer au moins le /boot/grub/grub.cfg
J'imagine aussi si tu as un initrd (et c'est le cas si tu as pas 
recompilé le noyau) il faudrait le re-générer (mkinitramfs en root).


En passant, quelques fichiers qu'il pourrait être intéressant de modifier:

/etc/fstab
/etc/hosts, /etc/hostname
/etc/resolv.conf
/etc/network/interfaces (ou autre, dépend de comment tu gères le réseau)

Doit y en avoir d'autres (éventuellement, crontab, profile et bashrc, 
modules, localtime (autre fuseau horaire!) mais je m'écarte là), presque 
tout ce qui a dans /etc en fait...


(Si y'a quelqu'un pour brancher la clef usb toutou-linux distante, tu 
pourrais pas lui dire de brancher une clef avec wheezy, ce serait plus 
simple)



Si ton chroot est dans /wheezy tu pourrais essayer (avant le chroot):
mount -t proc proc /wheezy/proc/
mount -t sysfs sys /wheezy/sys/
et surtout dans le cas qui nous intéresse:
mount -o bind /dev /wheezy/dev/

Je vais essayer...


Mais pourquoi chrooter, tu ne pourrais pas lancer directement le grub de
toutou-linux?

Je vais réessayer en installant les paquets grub...


1] Faut-il activer ou désactiver le mode Legacy pour booter sur une clé
USB ?

Chais pas, trial and error, essaye!
Mais si windows est en uefi il ne bootera plus (en fait ben non, pas de
partition fat, je retire cette phrase) :

Je voudrais garder Windows8 (tactile), pour mes enfants.
J'espère qu'en installant Grub (si j'y arrive), ça va empêcher
W8 de booter, car ça a l'air compliqué, avec 2 petites partitions sda1 et sda2
qui doivent sans doute servir au boot de W8, je pense ?


Ok, j'avais compris (quoique j'aimais bien cette version :) )
Chez moi, par défaut Windows 10 (version évaluation) m'installe 3 
partitions, une recovery (ntfs), une boot (efi, fat) et sa partition 
principale (ntfs). Y'a 4 ntfs chez toi, je sais pas, regarde leur taille 
et dedans au cas où!
Chez moi (efi donc), grub s'est greffé dans la partition efi que windows 
avait créé. Puis (une autre installation de linux sur un autre disque) 
il a créé sa propre partition efi.




2) Faut-il installer une distribution Linux 32 ou 64 bits pour lancer
update-grub ? (ma wheezy est 32 bits).


Déjà, j'imagine que tu as un processeur 64 bits (windows 64 bit?) donc :

OUI.


1 - Ca aurait été mieux de commencer directement avec une wheezy 64.
2 - Un processeur 64 peut exécuter du code 32 bits mais pas le contraire.
3 - Grub installe un peu de code dans le mbr (ou dans la partition efi),
le processeur exécute le code qu'il soit en 32 ou en 64 bits. C'est
juste un genre de pointeur vers le kernel (+initrd le cas échéant) quand
c'est linux ou il chainload pour windows.

Même réponse que tout à l'heure, essaye et teste, t'as rien à perdre.

Si, que W8 ne boote plus... ce qui m'ennuierait beaucoup (voir plus haut).


Je ne suis pas un expert du boot mais depuis que je connais Linux je 
n'ai jamais réussi a casser un démarrage Windows (attention, je dis pas 
que c'est impossible). Au pire, un ultimate boot cd et ça repart.


En tout cas, comme tu n'es manifestement pas en efi (pas de partition 
fat), tu démarres en mode legacy (si je me trompe pas, legacy c'est du 
bios pure et non-legacy, c'est efi je crois).
Chez moi, par exemple, si je désactive efi (donc mode legacy j'imagine) 
le pc ne démarrera plus (et en + j'ai des partitions gpt), mais c'est 
réversible, je peux toujours revenir dans le bios et re-changer l'option.
Ce que je veux dire c'est que tu peux toujours essayer vu que tu peux 
toujours revenir en arrière
Un dernier commentaire, le mode efi est retrocompatible (chez moi du 
moins) càd qu'il ne m'empêche pas de démarrer à l'ancienne, par 
exemple sur le bon vieux mbr d'une clef usb.



Je ne comprend toujours pas comment tu as installé wheezy, chroot +
deboostrap?

Mode opératoire plus haut, mais je lance toute l'opération depuis
toutou-Linux Live sur clé USB bootable.
Mais deboostrap, je connais pas... Est-il 

Re: Node.JS sur Debian, pour ou contre ?

2015-03-24 Thread Philippe Gras
C'est curieux. Comme Pierre qui m'a répondu en privé… j'ai aussi un  
projet de tableur
pour lequel justement, je me pose la question d'installer Node.JS.  
Parce qu'au départ,
J'ai essayé de faire ça avec Google Scripts qui est me semble-t-il un  
peu dans le style.


Mais je ne suis pas arrivé au bout avec Google Scripts (je plante  
déjà au début), alors
j'ai laissé tomber et je cherche une autre solution… et comme avec  
Google ça change
tous les 6 mois… Bon, je pourrais aussi faire ça de façon classique  
avec PHP, mais ça

me disait bien de tester autre chose.

Le 24 mars 15 à 10:19, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :


Bonjour,

Le lundi 23 mars 2015 à 20:50, Philippe Gras a écrit :

Qui a installé Node.js sur son serveur Debian ?


Je l'ai fait.


Avez-vous installé un paquet Debian ou d'ailleurs ?


J'ai rétroporté les paquet de testing pour ma stable.


https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nodejs

Là, ce serait plutôt wheezy-backports pour mon serveur sous wheezy ?

Les tutos que j'ai trouvé recommandent presque tous (à l'exception du  
site du zéro)

de compiler depuis les sources, notamment pour avoir NPM en bonus.



Pouvez-vous montrer un exemple de ce que vous avez fait avec ?


Pas énormément de choses pour l'instant. J'ai plusieurs outils en  
JavaScript,
mais pas tous en Node.js (j'ai un lecteur multimédia basé sur Node- 
Webkit, j'ai

un outil de « scraping » basé sur CasperJS).

En pur Node.js, j'ai convertisseur de flux RSS vers e-mail. J'étais  
las de ne
pas trouver « le Mutt des lecteurs de news », j'ai donc apporté les  
news dans

Mutt.

Les avantages de Node.js par rapport à un autre environnement sont  
directement
les avantages de JavaScript par rapport aux autres langages (selon  
l'autre

langage en question, tous ces points ne sont pas forcément valables) :
- asynchronisme,
- typage des variables,
- promises,
- etc.


Il y a aussi celui de se passer de serveur, et donc il y a moins de  
trucs à gérer en
parallèle. Par contre, Node.JS n'accepte qu'une seule connexion à la  
fois.


C'est pour ça que j'aurais aimé avoir des exemples d'utilisation sur  
le Web.


On trouve un écosystème assez intéressant de modules qui permettent de
programmer à un assez haut niveau.

Au niveau des inconvénients, là encore, on a les inconvénients de  
JavaScript
(tiens, par pure perversion, je vais mettre les mêmes que ceux que  
j'ai listés

en avantages) :
- asynchronisme,
- typage des variables,
- promises,
- etc.

Bref, comme pour tout langage / environnement, il a du pour et du  
contre et il
ne sera pas la solution à tous tes besoins (et c'est  
malheureusement après

quelques échecs que tu t'en rendras compte).

Sébastien

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Re: Setting up MTS MBlaze Ultra in debian squeeze 6.0.10

2015-03-24 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 06:33:31AM +0530, Tapas Das wrote:
Hello,
This is Tapas Das. I am a debian user since 3 years. Recently I collected
MTS MBlaze Ultra (Model-AC2792) Modem. This is supposed to run in debian-6
according to the system specification given at
[1]http://www.indiamart.com/company/9316197/data-card.html
 
The user manual supplied with the device says the requirement of gcc 
kernel-devel (or, corresponding kernel development package of the
distribution) to be installed.

This may be unnecessary. GCC and the kernel-package are only needed if
you have to compile the driver module yourself, but you may find that it
works with the standard kernel, anyway.

 
In my system gcc is already installed and I was unable to identify the
kernel development package. usb-modeswitch is already installed.
 
As I plug in my device, it is recognized as a storage device...not as a
modem.

I haven't used usb-modeswitch myself, but what happens when you execute
usb_modeswitch? Do you get any errors, or any additional logs in
syslog?

 
Please help me in this regard.
 
Regards
 
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Re: Node.JS sur Debian, pour ou contre ?

2015-03-24 Thread Philippe Gras


Le 24 mars 15 à 12:21, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :


Le mardi 24 mars 2015 à 11:30, Philippe Gras a écrit :

J'ai rétroporté les paquet de testing pour ma stable.


https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nodejs

Là, ce serait plutôt wheezy-backports pour mon serveur sous wheezy ?


Ça peut être une option en effet. Dans mon cas, je n'utilise plus  
les backports

(j'ai eu une mauvaise expérience avec). Je fais mes propres backports.

Mais la finalité reste la même, obtenir la version de testing sur  
une stable.


Les tutos que j'ai trouvé recommandent presque tous (à l'exception  
du site

du zéro)
de compiler depuis les sources, notamment pour avoir NPM en bonus.


Je déconseille cette approche.

L'administration d'un serveur est plus simple lorsqu'on n'utilise  
qu'un seul
gestionnaire de paquets. Si on commence à en utiliser plusieurs  
(APT, NPM, CPAN,
RubyGems, PyP, etc.) on multiplie les tâches de maintenance, ce qui  
conduira

inexorablement à en oublier un jour et à se retrouver avec des outils
vulnérables.

Pour être totalement objectif, on pourra opposer aux arguments ci- 
dessus qu'on
obtient plus rapidement les corrections en utilisant un  
gestionnaire de paquets

dédié à chaque plateforme.


Oui, tout ceci est vrai :-) Je m'emmêle un peu les crayons entre  
Debian et Dotdeb !





Par contre, Node.JS n'accepte qu'une seule connexion à la fois.


Ce n'est pas tout à fait vrai. Une seule instance de ton code sera  
exécutée à la
fois, mais le fonctionnement évènementiel permet d'accepter et de  
traiter
plusieurs connexions en parallèle (et ce sera souvent le cas  
puisque puisque chaque
chose que tu feras - accès au système de fichiers, à la base de  
données, etc. -

sera faite de manière asynchrone) :
https://nodejs.org/about/
https://ncombo.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/process-based-vs-thread- 
based-concurrency-node-js/


C'est pour ça que j'aurais aimé avoir des exemples d'utilisation  
sur le Web.


Ethercalc et Etherpad sont sûrement de bons exemples puisqu'ils  
permettent de

travailler en parallèle sur le même document.


https://www.ethercalc.org/k3sk198jdf



Sébastien

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Debian Jessie, gnome-panel no menu.

2015-03-24 Thread Mario

Hi,

 I have installed Debian 8 Jessie (amd64) on samsung N150.

With old installation Debian 7.8 I was using netspeed applet on top 
panel bar and cpu-load and sensors applets on bottom one.


Now with new installation Debian 8, I can't invoke panel menu with 
alt-right_mouse_button. So I can't insert applets on panels.


I read about metacity window manager issue alt key, but on my system 
there isn't metacity. I don't understand which window-manager has been used.


How to invoke panel menu?
How to add applets to panel?


Thanks


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Re: Debian et autonomie...

2015-03-24 Thread Jean Baptiste Favre
On 23/03/2015 14:16, David BERCOT wrote:
 Bonjour,
 
 J'ai récemment changé d'ordinateur portable et, sur la fiche de
 celui-ci, l'autonomie annoncée était d'environ 6h30.
 Sitôt reçu, j'ai supprimé le système installé pour y mettre Debian.
 
 Or, mes premiers essais montrent une autonomie tournant plutôt aux
 alentours de 2h... Certes, avec VLC pour regarder des vidéos, mais avec
 le wifi désactivé.
 
 Maintenant, il me manque peut-être certains choix qui pourraient
 augmenter mon autonomie. Auriez-vous des idées ?
 Ou alors, de process particuliers que je devrais supprimer quand mon
 portable n'est pas branché sur secteur...
 
 Tant que j'y suis, j'ai un comportement bizarre avec VLC (mais c'est la
 même chose avec Totem) : mes vidéos (HD ou pas) sont saccadées...
 Or, je suis passé d'une ancienne génération de Core i7 à un tout
 nouveau Core i5 Broadcom... C'est ma carte Intel qui fait le travail
 car j'ai des soucis avec l'AMD...
 
 Bref, merci d'avance pour les pistes à explorer...

Hello,

AMHA, le problème d'autonomie est plus dû à Linux plutôt que Debian.

Pour ma part, j'utilise powertop, mais également une série de scripts
dispo sur github: https://github.com/march-linux/powerdown

Sur un MacBook Pro sous Debian, ces scripts m'ont permis de passer de 2h
1/2 à 6h d'autonomie (Utilisation de type bureautique/Internet, Wifi
activé).
J'ai désactivé certaines parties du script, mais globalement il fait le
tour de pas mal d'optim en matière de consomation.

Mes 2 cents,
JB

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Re: Créer boot Grub avec super grub disk sur clé usb

2015-03-24 Thread andre_debian
J'avance... mais c'est encore l'échec :

1] J'ai monté /dev, chrooté sda2=Wheezy et lancé update-grub,
et voici le long message d'erreur :

 This GPT partition label has no BIOS boot partition.
   embedding won't be possible.
   Grub can only be installed in this setup with blocklists.
   However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged : 
   will not proceed with blocklists.

Il y a un problème de blocklists (?) et de partition GPT...

2] Sans chrooté Wheezy, à partir de Live Ubuntu, j'ai lancé update-grub :
Failed to get canonical of /cow
que veut dire /cow ? (vache en français...).

3] J'ai tenté via l'application automatique boot-repair de Live-Ubuntu,
mais il exige que Wheezy soit en 64 bits (c'est une 32 bits) :
aborted !

Voici ma table de partition :
sda1 = NTFS, hidden, diag
sda2 = FAT32 boot
sda3 = NTFS (Windows 8)
sda4 = partition étendue
sda5 = NTFS (recovery)
sda6 = Wheezy (ext4), 32 bits
sda7 = swap

sda2 doit contenir le boot de Windows8,
mais ou est le MBR ?

Bref, je suis toujours perdu, car ça n'a plus rien à voir
avec les anciens boots et le MBR...

Help needed :-)

André

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Fwd: Re: Node.JS sur Debian, pour ou contre ?

2015-03-24 Thread Pierre TOUZEAU

Oupps... sorry, j'avais envoyé en MP, plutôt que sur la liste...

En 2013, sur un Debian 6 qui me sert de test, j'ai installé Ethercalc
http://ethercalc.net/ (GitHub Ethercalc
https://github.com/audreyt/ethercalc) qui utilise Node.js et Redis.
euh... je ne me souviens pas des manips, mais c'était un peu le bazard
et j'avais eu quelques difficultés.
Je n'ai pas prolongé le test sur mes serveurs opérationnels de peur de
casser la cohérence de paquets, etc.
En regardant le lien Ethercalc http://ethercalc.net/, j'ai
l'impression que le système a été simplifié, y compris l'install de Node.js

Please download and install Node.js http://nodejs.org/#download, then
enter the following command:

npm install ethercalc
./node_modules/ethercalc/bin/ethercalc


Pierre


Le 23/03/2015 20:50, Philippe Gras a écrit :
 Qui a installé Node.js sur son serveur Debian ?

 Avez-vous installé un paquet Debian ou d'ailleurs ?

 Pouvez-vous montrer un exemple de ce que vous avez fait avec ?
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Re: Node.JS sur Debian, pour ou contre ?

2015-03-24 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 24 mars 2015 à 11:30, Philippe Gras a écrit :
 J'ai rétroporté les paquet de testing pour ma stable.
 
 https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nodejs
 
 Là, ce serait plutôt wheezy-backports pour mon serveur sous wheezy ?

Ça peut être une option en effet. Dans mon cas, je n'utilise plus les backports
(j'ai eu une mauvaise expérience avec). Je fais mes propres backports.

Mais la finalité reste la même, obtenir la version de testing sur une stable.

 Les tutos que j'ai trouvé recommandent presque tous (à l'exception du site
 du zéro)
 de compiler depuis les sources, notamment pour avoir NPM en bonus.

Je déconseille cette approche.

L'administration d'un serveur est plus simple lorsqu'on n'utilise qu'un seul
gestionnaire de paquets. Si on commence à en utiliser plusieurs (APT, NPM, CPAN,
RubyGems, PyP, etc.) on multiplie les tâches de maintenance, ce qui conduira
inexorablement à en oublier un jour et à se retrouver avec des outils
vulnérables.

Pour être totalement objectif, on pourra opposer aux arguments ci-dessus qu'on
obtient plus rapidement les corrections en utilisant un gestionnaire de paquets
dédié à chaque plateforme.

 Par contre, Node.JS n'accepte qu'une seule connexion à la fois.

Ce n'est pas tout à fait vrai. Une seule instance de ton code sera exécutée à la
fois, mais le fonctionnement évènementiel permet d'accepter et de traiter
plusieurs connexions en parallèle (et ce sera souvent le cas puisque puisque 
chaque
chose que tu feras - accès au système de fichiers, à la base de données, etc. -
sera faite de manière asynchrone) :
https://nodejs.org/about/

https://ncombo.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/process-based-vs-thread-based-concurrency-node-js/

 C'est pour ça que j'aurais aimé avoir des exemples d'utilisation sur le Web.

Ethercalc et Etherpad sont sûrement de bons exemples puisqu'ils permettent de
travailler en parallèle sur le même document.

Sébastien

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Re: Sleep but no resume

2015-03-24 Thread edjabr
On Friday, January 16, 2015 03:19:36 PM edj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Running stable 64bit with the 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 kernel.  This macbook
 will go to sleep but will not resume, requiring a hard reboot. 

[snipped]

How a message dated 1/6 gets reposted 3/24 - well, the vagaries of 
gmail.  Long ago asked and answered.  Please disregard, and sorry for 
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Re: Debian wheezy on Dell 7535

2015-03-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 24 March 2015 21:55:14 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
 On 3/24/15, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  For the avoidance of doubt, pavucontrol (PulseAudioVolUme control) will
  not
 
  work if PulseAudio is not installed.
 
  (Referring back to a recent thread.)
 
  With ALSA you want alsamixer or alsamixergui.

 Perhaps I was not precise enough in saying

 * it works! *

 * in my case! *

 * my experience is just an example! * That's why it was a no-brainer it 
would be *safe* to pose pavucontrol
 as a potential alternative *_CHOICE_* for any conversation that
 includes the words - No Sound. :)

My comment was based on the fact that a day or two ago one reader installed 
pavucontrol without PulseAudio and then was surprised that it didn't work.  I 
don't think it would be possible to install PulseAudio without Alsa, but I 
don't intend to try! ;-) :-)

PulseAudio is not a dependancy of pavucontrol.

lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude show pavucontrol
Package: pavucontrol
State: not installed
Version: 1.0-1
Priority: optional
Section: sound
Maintainer: Pulseaudio maintenance team 
pkg-pulseaudio-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Architecture: amd64
Uncompressed Size: 1,028 k
Depends: libatk1.0-0 (= 1.12.4), libatkmm-1.6-1 (= 2.22.1), libc6 (= 2.4),
 libcairo-gobject2 (= 1.10.0), libcairo2 (= 1.2.4), libcairomm-1.0-1 
(=
 1.6.4), libcanberra-gtk3-0 (= 0.25), libcanberra0 (= 0.16), libgcc1 
(=
 1:4.1.1), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.16.0),
 libglibmm-2.4-1c2a (= 2.31.22), libgtk-3-0 (= 3.0.0), 
libgtkmm-3.0-1 (=
 3.4.0), libpango1.0-0 (= 1.14.0), libpangomm-1.4-1 (= 2.27.1),
 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 (= 0.99.1), libpulse0 (= 0.99.4), 
libsigc++-2.0-0c2a
 (= 2.0.2), libstdc++6 (= 4.1.1)

Lisi


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Re: Debian wheezy on Dell 7535

2015-03-24 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 3/24/15, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 For the avoidance of doubt, pavucontrol (PulseAudioVolUme control) will not

 work if PulseAudio is not installed.

 (Referring back to a recent thread.)

 With ALSA you want alsamixer or alsamixergui.


Perhaps I was not precise enough in saying

* it works! *

* in my case! *

* my experience is just an example! *

I believe the following is *the* precise comment that changed my
current sound manipulation habits AND *slightly* furthered my
understanding of the whole thing's interoperability.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg00543.html


Ric said, In a nut shell, alsa is the basement for sound. Pulse sits
on top and directs input/output to multiple sound decices (sic).

To which from THIS side of the screen that day I then snidely snarked,
Oh, REALY?!*

With so much still to learn, I didn't think I had ALSA installed.
Turned out what he did know'd was. I did so, too, have ALSA
installed on my system else pavucontrol would (apparently) not have
worked.

Found out fairly easily back then that ALSA was, yes, in my system,
but I sure struggled to duplicate the same effort today. It's there.
Best as I can tell, ALSA's functionality was initially installed at
least in part as packages libasound2-data and libasound2. Xfce4 gets
the k/t for that default action occurring as part of its own install
(this past week again).

As for pavucontrol dependencies, that's just the nature of the beast
that is many packages we install. Thankfully our systems are
intelligent enough these days to alert us to dependency needs during
installs. We can then make a final, educated executive decision yes or
no regarding installs based on the additional package dependency
feedback our package managers provide during installations.

Just for kicks before sending this off, I checked
/var/log/apt/term.log. My latest *fresh* pavucontrol install (~three
days ago) drug these in:

libspeexdsp1
libasound2-plugins
libfftw3-single3
libgtkmm-3.0-1
libpulse-mainloop-glib0
libpulsedsp
libwebrtc-audio-processing-0
pavucontrol
pulseaudio-utils
pulseaudio
pulseaudio-module-x11
rtkit

Again... *it works!*

Turns out * with ALSA as a base! * (according to Ric who accordingly
turned out to be sright/s correct that pavucontrol wasn't going to
work without ALSA as a base tm?!)

When this successful avenue of gaining sound presented itself a few
months ago, I'd been fighting for WEEKS trying to have ANY sound while
going the whole suggested ALSA only route. Ric's PulseAudio Volume
Control comment was the one that INSTANTLY solved my private issue
when ALSA controls had been failing repeatedly and miserably until his
comment appeared.

That's why it was a no-brainer it would be *safe* to pose pavucontrol
as a potential alternative *_CHOICE_* for any conversation that
includes the words - No Sound. :)

Cindy ;)

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Re: Sleep but no resume

2015-03-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 24 March 2015 21:45:32 edj...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Friday, January 16, 2015 03:19:36 PM edj...@gmail.com wrote:
  Running stable 64bit with the 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 kernel.  This macbook
  will go to sleep but will not resume, requiring a hard reboot.

 [snipped]

 How a message dated 1/6 gets reposted 3/24 - well, the vagaries of
 gmail.  Long ago asked and answered.  Please disregard, and sorry for
 the clutter.

Third time lucky?? ;-)

Lisi


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Re: Créer boot Grub avec super grub disk sur clé usb

2015-03-24 Thread mireero

On 03/24/2015 11:50 AM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

2] Sans chrooté Wheezy, à partir de Live Ubuntu, j'ai lancé update-grub :
Failed to get canonical of /cow
que veut dire /cow ? (vache en français...).


Chais pas mais ubuntu (live) aussi monte sa partition racine sur /cow. 
Ca m'a rappelé un souci que j'avais eu une fois et pour installer grub 
j'avais du faire:


sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda

sda6 étant la partition racine de wheezy et /dev/sda pour installer le 
boot loader sur le mbr du disque 1 (cas classique).


En passant,
- quel disque a le flag boot (vois dans gparted ou autre)?
- C'est du gpt ou mbr (pareil ou vois ce que fdisk et gdisk renvoient)?
- Quand tu as rsync debian, es-tu sûre avoir bien rapatrié 
l'arborescence /boot, autrement dit, as-tu bien les vmlinuz, initrd, et 
System.map dans /mnt/boot/ (si je reprend mon point de montage ci-dessus)?


Et en passant n°2, moi j'oublierais chroot pour ce que tu veux faire 
ici, se mettre dedans sachant que dehors c'est un live système en 
mémoire, ben ça aide pas grub à s'y retrouver je pense.


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Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Sven Hartge wrote:
 Michael I. wrote:
  I tested around a bit with squid3+squidguard and I found out that the
  redirect works with the Internet Explorer (IE 11).
 
  Then I tested some other browser (firefox, chrome, ..) and with all
  the other browser the redirect didn't work.

Be careful using browsers to test redirects because browsers strongly
cache results.  It causes endless confusion with people.  The network
wisdom is to test using tools such as wget and curl which don't cache
and look at the headers for verification.

  wget -S -O/dev/null https://somesite.example.com/ 

The command line is preferred because it is a zillion times faster
than exiting the browser and flushing the browser cache manually
before every browser test.  It avoids the possibility of a monkey
testing mistake.

  Is there a bug in the Internet Explorer or is this because the IE
  handle https on an other way?
 
 Hard to guess since you never told us exactly what your configuration in
 squid3, squidguard and the browser is, what exactly you do to get a
 specific result (error page, redirected page, etc.).

I immediately suspect browser caching a previous redirect since that
has been a problem so many times before.

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Re: No sound in Wheezy; Pulse audio through Nvidia graphics card to HDMI

2015-03-24 Thread James Allsopp
How would I go about checking those?
James

On 24 March 2015 at 14:51, Eric Sharkey e...@lisaneric.org wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:31 PM, James Allsopp
 jamesaalls...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Sorry, didn't make myself clear, the sound card is an intel hda onboard
 and
  there's a small cable which takes this from the motherboard to the nvidia
  graphics card, which then connects to the HDMI cable.
 []
 
  I've installed the nvidia drivers

 With cards like that, the drivers aren't involved and there is no
 software configuration required for the graphics card.  The hardware
 takes any signal it receives on the SPDIF input and sends it to the
 HDMI output.  If your hardware is working, whatever problem you're
 having is getting sound out of your SPDIF output on the Intel sound
 card and not related to anything nvidia or hdmi.

 Have you checked your mixer settings?  Does it work without pulse audio?

 Eric



Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread Ron
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:01:23 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:

 What doe 36 have that 33 doesn't?

Security (and other) upgrades...
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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Re: No sound in Wheezy; Pulse audio through Nvidia graphics card to HDMI

2015-03-24 Thread Eric Sharkey
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:57 AM, James Allsopp
jamesaalls...@googlemail.com wrote:
 How would I go about checking those?

On the command line, alsamixer will give you an ncurses based mixer
panel.  If your outputs are muted or have 0% volume, you won't get
sound.

You can uninstall pulseaudio with:

sudo dpkg --remove pulseaudio

(You can always install it again if you want to.)  If your audio works
with pulseaudio uninstalled, but fails with it installed, then you'll
know you have a pulseaudio problem.

Eric


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Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread John Hasler
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes:
 And using Firefox (downloaded and untar'd in /opt, with a single link
 to /usr/bin) helps keep up to date, as it is now 36.0.3 whereas
 Iceweasel is still at ? 31.5.3 ?

What doe 36 have that 33 doesn't?
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Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread John Hasler
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes:
 [Firefox 36 has] Security (and other) upgrades...

Iceweasel has security fixes backported.  What other upgrades?
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Re: OT Alternativas de seguridad para aplicaciones web

2015-03-24 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:52:39 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 que alternativa existe o conocen de tipo opensource que pueda montar con
 debian?

¿Alternativa para qué?

 o que conjunto de programas se usan como alternativa a TAM/SAM de IBM?

TAM → Tivoli Access Manager

Ni idea... pero por si te sirve Google encuentra esto:

Identity and Access Management
http://identityaccessmanagement.blogspot.com.es/2005/05/vendor-list.html

Hum... interesante, parece una plataforma de gestión de accesos e 
identificación ¿no? También buscar por:

https://www.google.es/search?q=Identity+management+open+source

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Re: Node.JS sur Debian, pour ou contre ?

2015-03-24 Thread Philippe Gras


Le 24 mars 15 à 13:14, Philippe Gras a écrit :



Le 24 mars 15 à 12:21, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :

C'est pour ça que j'aurais aimé avoir des exemples d'utilisation  
sur le Web.


Ethercalc et Etherpad sont sûrement de bons exemples puisqu'ils  
permettent de

travailler en parallèle sur le même document.


https://www.ethercalc.org/k3sk198jdf


C'est cool, vous avez pu ajouter des trucs et j'ai pu les voir :-)

Par contre, je n'arrive à me connecter ni à la feuille de calcul ni  
au site


avec mon téléphone portable et ça pourrait poser un problème pour le

projet que j'ai en tête. Pourtant Ethercalc a un design responsive, donc

il a dû intégrer la navigation mobile…

Re: Debian jessie and the normal console (CTRL+ALT+Fn)

2015-03-24 Thread deloptes
I managed to solve it by purging console-common completely
I think the config files left behind caused some issue.

regards



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IPv6 duplicate address detection (DAD)

2015-03-24 Thread Michael Graham
Hi all,

I've been trying to understand what I should do about my current IPv6 wows.

I have an IPv6 enabled network but when on a clean boot I don't get an IPv6
address (in Jessie BTW), I've tracked this down to this message in dmeg:

IPv6: wlan0: IPv6 duplicate address fe80::fef8:aeff:fe7b:115f detected!

And can now get an IPv6 address on my laptop by disabling doing:

echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/*/accept_dad

However, I don't know what to do next... this seems like a bug.  But I have
no idea what package is should raise it against? Is it ifconfig,
networkmanager, linux, systemd?


Controlling multiple displays with debian

2015-03-24 Thread venkat

HI

I have installed DEBIAN 7.8 in N2600 board. 
http://www.jetway.com.tw/ru/ipcboard_view.asp?productid=939proname=NF9C-2600/2800; 
.
On the installed system, we were trying to connect multiple displays 
(Monitor 1 - HDMI port) (Monitor 2 - CRT port). But, we do not see 
anyway to control the connected displays.

Say like :
Monitor 1 : To display a screen save application
Monitor 2 : To display some video file.

I tried xrandr -q :: It shows only screen-0 it does not show HDMI 
or LVDS.


Need some procedures to debug.
Request some guidance.

Regards
Venkat.S


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Re: ifupdown en jessie, iproute2 e interfaces bridge

2015-03-24 Thread sio2
El Tue, 24 de Mar de 2015, a las 02:25:44PM +, Camaleón dijo:

  No, me refiero a cómo crear puentes usando ifupdown, o sea, escribiendo
  la configuración en el fichero interfaces. Sobre cómo usar directamente
  brtcl ya sé que puedo recurrir a cualquier página que trate los
  bridges con linux.
 
 No puedes crear puentes usando ifupdown, puedes gestionarlos. Los 
 puentes los generan las herramientas iproute2 o brctl.

Quiero zanjar un poco esto, porque a veces acabamos discutiendo en
círculos o eso me parece a mí.

Por crear con ifupdown me refiero a que yo escribo esto:

iface eth0.10 inet static
   address 192.168.10.1

Y automágicamente ifupdown llama a iproute2 y se carga de todas las
entrañas del asunto: en este caso llama primero a iproute2 para crear la
interfaz (que como no es física no existe en un principio) y luego otra
vez a iproute2 para configurarla como si se tratara de una interfaz
física trivial.  No hay scripts externos adicionales, cómo si los había
antiguamente cuando era necesario instalar el paquete vlan que metía
esos scripts en los directorios correspondientes para que ifupdown
hiciera uso de vconfig.

Por tanto, al decir crear con ifupdown, me refería a manejar estas
interfaces en el core y sin scripts externos adicionales. Siento haber
sido poco preciso con el término.

Mi pregunta en este hilo era sobre la situación de la declaración de los
puentes en el fichero interfaces: si ifupdown las podía gestionar
internamente con iproute2 (como ya pasa con las vlan) o si seguía
requiriendo la instalación de bridge-utils y los scripts externos que
con este paquete se incluyen (o bien ingeniártelas tú escribiendo
scripts externos que usen iproute2). No puedo ponerme a probar a locas
si se puede sin scripts externos, porque si efectivamente hay una forma,
tengo que saber cuál es la sintaxis de la declaración. Ciertamente no
había encontrado por internet nada al respecto ni tampoco en el manual,
pero es que en el manual del fichero interfaces no pone muy claro que ya
se puedan declarar ya interfaces vlan sin necesidad de scripts externos
y en todos los tutoriales de internet (que pude llegar a leer) siguen
explicando el método antiguo. La pista me la dio un mensaje en la lista
de bugs de debian.

Nada más. Espero haberme explicado claramente en esta ocasión.

Saludos y gracias.

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[Q] missing some of files under /dev.

2015-03-24 Thread Takahide Nojima
Hello,

 Few days ago, when I did apt-get full-upgrade for my debian box (I'm
using debian sid),I found some device files under /dev were missing.
Thease missing files ,at least I found, are /dev/ppp,/dev/net/tun.

 [Q1] Does anyone know what process make thease files in debian sid?
   What package should I send bug-report? (ex. systemd? udev?)

Thank you in advance,
Takahide Nojima


 


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Re: [Q] missing some of files under /dev.

2015-03-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.03.2015 um 19:27 schrieb Takahide Nojima:
 Hello,
 
  Few days ago, when I did apt-get full-upgrade for my debian box (I'm
 using debian sid),I found some device files under /dev were missing.
 Thease missing files ,at least I found, are /dev/ppp,/dev/net/tun.
 
  [Q1] Does anyone know what process make thease files in debian sid?
What package should I send bug-report? (ex. systemd? udev?)

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780255



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Re: ifupdown en jessie, iproute2 e interfaces bridge

2015-03-24 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:27:02 +0100, José Miguel (sio2) escribió:

 El Tue, 24 de Mar de 2015, a las 02:25:44PM +, Camaleón dijo:
 
  No, me refiero a cómo crear puentes usando ifupdown, o sea,
  escribiendo la configuración en el fichero interfaces. Sobre cómo
  usar directamente brtcl ya sé que puedo recurrir a cualquier página
  que trate los bridges con linux.
 
 No puedes crear puentes usando ifupdown, puedes gestionarlos. Los
 puentes los generan las herramientas iproute2 o brctl.
 
 Quiero zanjar un poco esto, porque a veces acabamos discutiendo en
 círculos o eso me parece a mí.
 
 Por crear con ifupdown me refiero a que yo escribo esto:
 
 iface eth0.10 inet static
address 192.168.10.1
 
 Y automágicamente ifupdown llama a iproute2 y se carga de todas las
 entrañas del asunto: en este caso llama primero a iproute2 para crear la
 interfaz (que como no es física no existe en un principio) y luego otra
 vez a iproute2 para configurarla como si se tratara de una interfaz
 física trivial.  No hay scripts externos adicionales, cómo si los había
 antiguamente cuando era necesario instalar el paquete vlan que metía
 esos scripts en los directorios correspondientes para que ifupdown
 hiciera uso de vconfig.
 
 Por tanto, al decir crear con ifupdown, me refería a manejar estas
 interfaces en el core y sin scripts externos adicionales. Siento haber
 sido poco preciso con el término.

(...)

Como te he ido diciendo a lo largo del hilo, eso mágicamente no creo 
que funcione. Hasta bridge-utils necesita tirar de los scripts (que te 
genera al instalar el paquete) para detener o reiniciar los puentes que 
se hayan creado con brtcl. 

Por lo tanto, si quieres hacer lo mismo con iproute2 tienes que crear 
manualmente esos scripts para que ifupdown pueda gestionar las interfaces 
puente.

No hay más :-)

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[OT] Inicializarme en el mundo de openstack

2015-03-24 Thread Maykel Franco
Hola buenas, la verdad es que cada vez me llama más la atención este
proyecto opensource, igual que el de Cloud Stack de  Apache.

Tengo una pequeña duda, porque yo entiendo la nube como tener el
dashboard en una máquina, engancharlo a un KVM de otra máquina,
también conectarlo a un VMware, conectar un NFS para backups, otra
máquina para BBDD... y entre todas las máquinas formar la nube.

Mi duda es, para poder realizar pruebas de openstack, es decir,
montarlo y trastear un poco, me vale una máquina anfitriona potente
que tenga KVM para meter máquinas virtuales? O para realizar pruebas
de virtualización, snapshots de volúmenes y demás necesito
necesariamente máquinas físicas con KVM, VMware?

Es que me gustaría probarlo y no sé si necesariamente necesito unas
cuantas máquinas para probar por ejemplo... la virtualización.


Gracias de antemano.

Saludos.


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[RESOLVED] Disk quota exceeded ... but no quota are defined.

2015-03-24 Thread Bruno Costacurta
The server is a VPS (Virtual Private Server) one.
Indeed the inodes were full.

sudo df -i
Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/simfs 50 50 50 100% /
..etc..

So filesystem needs some files cleanup...
I identified which directory was full of files with following command
executed from root location /:

/: sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d / -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n

After few iterations I found the directory :
/usr/local/pnp4nagios/var/spool which contains more than 300.000 files.
Need to work on this later, but to resolve the current issue I stopped
nagios and delete its spool directory.
Then everything is up  running OK.

sudo df -i
Filesystem Inodes  IUsed  IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/simfs 50 167715 332285   34% /
..etc..

Thanks for your attention.
Bruno


On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk
wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 05:05:46AM +0100, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
 Hello to All,
 
 my debian server is freezed with quota exceeded but there is no quota
 installed on it.
 
 Debian version is :
 uname -a
 Linux vps622 2.6.32-042stab103.6 #1 SMP Wed Jan 21 13:07:39 MSK 2015
 i686
 GNU/Linux
 
 No quota are setup and disk is not full as only 3% of usage are
 reported :
 
 sudo df -h
 
 Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/simfs  160G  3.8G  157G   3% /
 tmpfs   205M   72K  205M   1% /run
 tmpfs   5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
 tmpfs   410M 0  410M   0% /run/shm
 
 mount does not indicate quota setup :
 
 /vz/private/622 on / type simfs (rw,relatime)
 proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
 sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
 tmpfs on /run type tmpfs
 (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=209716k,mode=755)
 tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs
 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
 tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs
 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=419420k)
 devpts on /dev/pts type devpts
 (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
 sudo du -ch  /run
 72K/run
 72Ktotal
 
 But all services are freezed with quota exeeded errors.
 when I log :
 zsh: locking failed for /home/bruno/.histfile: disk quota exceeded:
 reading anyway
 
 Or in postfix logs  :
 Mar 24 04:44:52 vps622 postfix/cleanup[2727]: warning:
 mail_queue_enter:
 create file incoming/181079.2727: Disk quota exceeded
 ..etc..
 
 Also MySQL also cannot be started.
 Once rebooted the server is fine only few minutes before facing quota
 exceeded.
 I cannot find any quota setup.
 And indeed there is no quota packages installed neither.
 dpkg -l | grep quota
 --- nothing.
 
 How to check this quota problem ?
 Thanks for any help or clue.

 I don't know much about OpenVZ, but a quick bit of searching tells me
 that your container has run out of space/inodes quota. That is, although
 the operating system within the container can see plenty of space, the
 supervising operating system is refusing to allow more allocation and
 this is filtering down to the guest.

 Apparently, running something like vzctl set VZID --save -diskinodes
 x:y might help.

 
 Bye
 Bruno



Yes the server is a VPS (Virtual Private Server) one.
Indeed the inodes were full.

sudo df -i
Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/simfs 50 50 50 100% /
..etc..

So filesystem needs some files cleanup...
I identified which directory was full of files with following command
executed from root location /:

/: sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d / -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n

After few iterations I found the directory :
/usr/local/pnp4nagios/var/spool which contains more than 300.000 files.
Need to work on this later, but to resolve the current issue I stopped
nagios and delete its spool directory.
Then everything is up  running OK.

sudo df -i
Filesystem Inodes  IUsed  IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/simfs 50 167715 332285   34% /
..etc..

Thanks for your attention.
Bruno


Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
 What advertising ? Been using Firefox for a long time, did not see any
 ads.

Default search engine, non-free logos, etc.

 And using Firefox (downloaded and untar'd in /opt, with a single link
 to /usr/bin) helps keep up to date, as it is now 36.0.3 whereas
 Iceweasel is still at ? 31.5.3 ?

Up to date is actually at least 36.0.4, which is what iceweasel is also
at:

$ rmadison iceweasel
[...]
iceweasel | 36.0.4-1 | experimental | source, amd64, armel, armhf, 
i386,kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mipsel

Now, it's true that 36 is not in unstable, but that's because we're
about to do a release.

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[RESOLVED] Re: [Q] missing some of files under /dev.

2015-03-24 Thread Takahide Nojima
Thank you for quick response,

   [Q1] Does anyone know what process make thease files in debian sid?
 What package should I send bug-report? (ex. systemd? udev?)
 
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780255

Thank you for your help. 

Thank to you, I could find another bug report #780263.
This seems to match my problem.

Anyway, thank you.

Takahide Nojima




 



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Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-03-24, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:

 --eDB11BtaWSyaBkpc
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Disposition: inline
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 02:47:40AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:59:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
 =20
  Someone suggested it, and I was a sucker. :)  Both have now been excise=
 d,=20
  no effect that I can hear.  But iceweasal is frozen again, the *%$ bac=
 k=20
  button does NOT work on cbsnews.com.  Everyone but bbcnews is playing=
=20
  with your controls, and cbs seems to be the worst offender. When it=20
  refuses to go back, sometimes closing the tab works, occasionally the=
=20
  close button on the browser works, but I keep a root exec'd copy of hto=
 p=20
  running just so I can have the last word.  And I have to use it about=
=20
  25% of the time to exit iceweasal. =20
=20
 Yep, Iceweasel is a *real* pig!=20
=20
  But that problem is a separate=20
  thread Request Entity too Large.  No clue it its related, but get=20
  firefox will get a visit soon if I can't get this under control.
=20
 Ummm, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, just with the advertising removed. :)

 Actually, there's [quite a bit more][1] to it than that. The primary
 motivation behind Iceweasel is actually security patches, rather than
 privacy/freedom concerns. Due to the release schedule of Debian, the
 plan was to freeze on one version of Firefox, and backport security
 fixes to that during the life of Stable (just like every other package
 works). However, Mozilla decreed that such a modification would create a
 derivative version of Firefox and that this was not allowed.

 So, the options left available to the Debian Developers were to freeze Fire=
 fox
 into stable and NOT fix security problems (which is clearly not a nice
 thing to do to users), to provide regular updates of Firefox to stable
 users (which goes against the philosophy of Stable), or to comply with
 Mozilla's wishes to de-brand the patched Firefox. Thus IceWeasel was
 born.



 [1]: https://sources.debian.net/src/iceweasel/31.5.3esr-1/debian/patches/


Debian wheezy follows the esr release cycle (as will jessie). So the
security updates are already backported by Mozilla. For that reason,
iceweasel esr isn't strictly 'stable' in the debian sense of the word:
it has gone through many jumps in major version number since the release
of wheezy.

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Re: Debian wheezy on Dell 7535

2015-03-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 24 March 2015 02:14:51 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
 On 3/23/15, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 09:55:17AM +0400, Gajadur Dwijesh wrote:
 - No Sound
 
  Have you unmuted the sound? (In order to avoid damage, Linux installs
  sound cards muted. Open a mixer program and turn up some volumes)
 
  Is the sound card recognised? (Have a look and 'lspci' and/or 'lsusb' to
  find something that looks like an Audio or Multimedia controller)

 I had a LOT of problems on and off until a fellow list member once
 again brought up pavucontrol.. I'm still having some trouble with
 it, now most likely because it hasn't clicked exactly how it works BUT
 that IS what it does

 *it works!* Listening to music right now thanks to whomever did
 suggest it recently.

 PulseAudio Volume Control is what it comes up as under the
 Applications Menu  Mutlimedia menu selections once installed. Maybe
 that info will help with searching this list's archives, too, for
 other leads if needed...

For the avoidance of doubt, pavucontrol (PulseAudioVolUme control) will not 
work if PulseAudio is not installed.

(Referring back to a recent thread.)

With ALSA you want alsamixer or alsamixergui.

Lisi


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Re: Another problem is getting old

2015-03-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 23 March 2015 23:53:48 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Monday 23 March 2015 13:34:08 Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Monday 23 March 2015 16:02:10 Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Monday 23 March 2015 08:55:22 Curt wrote:
On 2015-03-23, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 Clearing cache, no help, clearing optimizly and cbs cookies did.

 This might point to a fix if those sites if putting cookies can
 be denied selectively.
   
Cookies can be denied/allowed selectively with my version of
Iceweasel (Preferences/Privacy/Accept cookies from
sites/Exceptions).
  
   That function doesn't appear in my iceweasal version 31.5.0.
   Wheezy(7.8)
 
  I have it in Wheezy with Iceweasel 36.0.1.  I have the backported
  Iceweasel, Gene.
 
  Lisi

 Can you paste the sources.list entry to get backports?

deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main

Though I actually have 
deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

You also need to know how to use it.  Here are the instructions.

http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

For Iceweasel I have:

deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release

Lisi


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Re: No sound in Wheezy; Pulse audio through Nvidia graphics card to HDMI

2015-03-24 Thread Eric Sharkey
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:31 PM, James Allsopp
jamesaalls...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Sorry, didn't make myself clear, the sound card is an intel hda onboard and
 there's a small cable which takes this from the motherboard to the nvidia
 graphics card, which then connects to the HDMI cable.
[]

 I've installed the nvidia drivers

With cards like that, the drivers aren't involved and there is no
software configuration required for the graphics card.  The hardware
takes any signal it receives on the SPDIF input and sends it to the
HDMI output.  If your hardware is working, whatever problem you're
having is getting sound out of your SPDIF output on the Intel sound
card and not related to anything nvidia or hdmi.

Have you checked your mixer settings?  Does it work without pulse audio?

Eric


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Re: Ubuntu als server i.p.v. Debian

2015-03-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 08:46:05PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 Op 20-03-15 om 10:09 schreef Wouter Verhelst:
  On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 09:46:28PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
  Daar heb je wel een punt. Ubuntu geeft wel degelijk 5 jaar support op de
  desktop. Voor een beperkt aantal packages welliswaar, maar toch.
  
  Die support is ook niet absoluut.
  
  Voor CVE-2013-6410 in mijn package nbd-server was, toen ik het de
  laatste keer nakeek, nog altijd geen security upload gedaan binnen
  Ubuntu. Toegegeven, impact is redelijk klein, en het is niet onredelijk
  om dat lagere prioriteit te geven. Maar in twee jaar tijd zou dat in
  theorie toch wel moeten lukken.
 
 Inderdaad, wellicht is het niet perfect. Maar dergelijke dingen zijn
 vast ook bij Debian te vinden.

Sure.

 Leuk te weten dat jij dat bent, ik gebruik nbd-client.

:-)

  (14.04 LTS heeft de bug niet meer, wegens update via Debian; maar
  12.04 LTS wél)
  
  [...]
  ---
  Lenny, release 14 februar 2009
  Iceweasel support for oldstable stopped at 24 Mar 2009:
  https://www.debian.org/security/2009/dsa-1753
  No secure alternative browser available so far I know
  Icedove support for oldstable stopped at 12 Jul 2009:
  https://www.debian.org/security/2009/dsa-1830
  
  Lenny wordt helemaal niet meer ondersteunt, zelfs niet als oldstable of
  als LTS, dus dat is niet echt relevant.
 
 Het was echter heel relevant op 24 maart 2009. Toen was opeens de
 desktop van Lenny niet veilig meer. En dat terwijl Squeeze nog maar net
 uit was.

Ik zie niet in hoe dat vandaag nog relevant is.

Maart 2009 is *zes jaar geleden*. Iemand die toen geboren was, kan
vandaag al (een beetje ;-) lezen.

Debian evolueert, en de support voor oude releases doet dat ook. Het is
absoluut zo dat dat vroeger een probleem geweest is, maar met Squeeze
LTS is dat vandaag minder zo.

OK, de situatie is nog niet perfect, maar niemand zegt dat dat zo moet
blijven.

[...]
  ... maar er valt wel iets aan te doen.
 
 Ik heb het gevoel dat desktop support van oldstable niet zo'n hoge
 prioriteit heeft jammer genoeg.

Nogmaals: als dat voor jou belangrijk is, dan heb je mogelijkheden:
- Word sponsor, en vraag om daar prioriteit aan te geven
- Zoek zelf uit wat nodig is om iceweasel/icedove/whatever op oldstable
  te compileren, en stuur de patches naar het LTS team.

Het feit dat er in het verleden iets gebeurd is, is relevant als er geen
wil om verandering is. Die wil is er echter wel, dus zijn voorbeelden
uit het verleden minder zinvol.

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Re: ifupdown en jessie, iproute2 e interfaces bridge

2015-03-24 Thread sio2
El Tue, 24 de Mar de 2015, a las 06:37:12PM +, Camaleón dijo:

 Como te he ido diciendo a lo largo del hilo, eso mágicamente no creo 
 que funcione. Hasta bridge-utils necesita tirar de los scripts (que te 
 genera al instalar el paquete) para detener o reiniciar los puentes que 
 se hayan creado con brtcl. 

Eso lo tengo claro, Camaleón. Pero el caso es que para crear interfaces
vlan no se necesita ya ningún script en if-pre-up.d. El comando necesario,
previo a la configuración de la interfaz, que crea la interfaz vlan, o sea,
uno parecido a este:

ip link add link eth0 name eth0.10 type vlan id 10

lo ejecuta ifupdown él solito, sin doparse con scripts externos, en
cuanto ve que una interfaz se llama XXX.NUMERO.

 Por lo tanto, si quieres hacer lo mismo con iproute2 tienes que crear 
 manualmente esos scripts para que ifupdown pueda gestionar las interfaces 
 puente.

No veo cuál es la consecuencia lógica que te lleva a tal conclusión. Si
los desarrolladores de ifupdown hubieran hecho con las interfaces puente
lo que han hacho con las interfaces vlan, entonces el comando:

ip link add name br0 type bridge

también se podría ejecutar automáticamente antes de configurar la
interfaz con que sólo hubiera algún modo de que ifupdown supiera que
cuando declaras br0 en el fichero interfaces, quieres que sea una
interfaz bridge. ¿Que los puentes tienen una casuística distinta que
desaconseja o impide hacer esto o que simplemente no se ha implementado?
Pues a lo mejor. Pero la razón no es que como hay que crear la interfaz
antes, tiene que haber un script externo que la cree, que es lo que
entiendo que vienes a argumentar. Y no es la razón, porque las
interfaces vlan, se crean sin necesidad de script.

Saludos.

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Debian jessie and the normal console (CTRL+ALT+Fn)

2015-03-24 Thread deloptes
Hi debian users,
I would really appreciate some help on a recent issue I have.

The system
Dell e5440
Debian jessie (upgraded recently from wheezy)
TDE desktop

The Problem:
I received this notebook few weeks ago and migrated the installation 
from
the old Dell d520 which I've been using in the past 8y with lenny/wheezy.
Because of the newer hardware I had to go for jessie, so that X supports the
newer intell HD graphic card.
Everything went well (not perfect, but anyway it was good upgrade and
started working). Now finally I started polishing here and there and one of
the things I was missing was a nice splash screen for the bootup. I
replaced splashy with plymouth and it is really nice, but afterwards I can
not see the console with CTRL+ALT+F1. I actually don't see anything but
thelast screen on the X desktop.

Test:
CTRL+ALT+F1
login as a normal user (you don't see but type user/pass)
echo TEST  /tmp/test
CTRL+ALT+F7 (back to X)
cat /tmp/test
TEST

plymouth removed console-common which has

$ dpkg -L console-common
/etc
/etc/init.d
/etc/init.d/keymap.sh
/etc/console

so any experience solution or direction to look for ... perhaps google can
do better work on your system then on mine


thank you in advance




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Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 24 March 2015 14:08:14 Renaud  OLGIATI wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:47:40 +1300

 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
  Ummm, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, just with the advertising removed. :)

 What advertising ? Been using Firefox for a long time, did not see any ads.

 And using Firefox (downloaded and untar'd in /opt, with a single link to
 /usr/bin) helps keep up to date, as it is now 36.0.3 whereas Iceweasel is
 still at ? 31.5.3 ?

36.0.1.  Wheezy 7.8. with backport.  Iceweasel on Jessie may have the 
missing .2.

Lisi


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Re: Ubuntu als server i.p.v. Debian

2015-03-24 Thread Geert Stappers
Er zijn van die dingen die je niet uit moet leggen,
maar gewoon moet doen.


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Re: [OT] Inicializarme en el mundo de openstack

2015-03-24 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:26:26 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:

 Hola buenas, la verdad es que cada vez me llama más la atención este
 proyecto opensource, igual que el de Cloud Stack de  Apache.

(...)

 Mi duda es, para poder realizar pruebas de openstack, es decir,
 montarlo y trastear un poco, me vale una máquina anfitriona potente
 que tenga KVM para meter máquinas virtuales? O para realizar pruebas
 de virtualización, snapshots de volúmenes y demás necesito
 necesariamente máquinas físicas con KVM, VMware?

(...)

Puedes usar lo que prefieras: máquinas virtuales, sistemas reales, una 
mezcla de ambos... obviamente con un único equipo (virtual o real) no vas 
a llegar muy lejos. 

Para empezar tienes además una opción dedicada (devstack) para ir 
probando el panel de control:

https://www.openstack.org/software/start/

Saludos,

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Re: Sleep but no resume

2015-03-24 Thread edjabr
On Friday, January 16, 2015 03:19:36 PM edj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Running stable 64bit with the 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 kernel.  This macbook
 will go to sleep but will not resume, requiring a hard reboot. 

[snipped]

How a message dated 1/6 gets reposted 3/24 - well, the vagaries of 
gmail.  Long ago asked and answered.  Please disregard, and sorry for 
the clutter.


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Re: Configurar squid.conf versão 3.3.8

2015-03-24 Thread hamacker
Bem, rode squid3 -k parse, se houver algum erro de sintaxe ou falha grave
então será mostrado.

Contudo, apenas atente-se de que a primeira execução do squid seja squid3
-z, isso forçará a criação de diretórios de cache.
Outros erros podem não ser do squid, mas de addons que são acrescentados
para que ele funcione adequadamente de outra forma, por exemplo,
autenticação NTLM requer kerberos, winbind, modulos de autenticação, ... e
se um deles falhar, o squid falhará.

Posso dizer o seguinte, o squid funciona perfeitamente, tenho exatamente o
ambiente que você descreveu, com configuração similar as suas, com mudando
ACLs similares e autenticação ntlm/ldap e funciona muito bem.
Apenas algumas coisas como
httpd_suppress_version_string off
acl ie_browser browser ^Mozilla/4.0 ^Mozilla/5.0 .compatible; MSIE
acl ie_usuario arp /etc/squid3/list/browser.txt
Não entendi para que elas servem e não as uso.

Outra coisa, o arquivo enviado para a lista está em formado DOS, se você
enviou esse arquivo desse jeito para seu amigo então é necessário
convertê-lo para o formato Unix, use dos2unix para tal.

Um abraço.



Em 22 de março de 2015 11:20, Roberto Brandão 
robertobrandaoi...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:

  Bom dia

 Amigos estou tentando configurar o squid.conf para um amigo que esta na
 versão 3.3.8.

 Ele esta usando o ubuntu 14.04 lts, sei que muitos vão falar que ele deve
 perguntar na lista do ubuntu,  mais me prontifiquei em ajuda-lo e recorro
 aos amigos que possa me fazer essa gentileza, tentei fazer algumas
 modificações mais mesmo ao rodar o squid3 -k reconfigure ele da a mensagem:
 erro ao executar a copia

 não sei como configurar ele, estou lhe mandando uma copia do meu
 squid.conf para analise, pois o dele é uma copia do meu.

 Atenciosamente,

 Roberto Brandão





Re: Problem with accessing external USB HDD

2015-03-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/03/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.

 I have an external USB HDD connected to a system running Debian 6 LTS.

 I have tried to transfer data from the desktop intenal HDD, to the
 external USB HDD.

 The file manager shows as being Nautilus 2.30.1.

 From time to time, as in this instance, I forget (until too late) that
 Debian 6 can not cope with transferring data more than about 1GB at a
 time; in this instance, I had tried to transfer about 3GB, to make
 room in my /home partition.

 The transfer had seized up, after transferring about 1.1GB of the
 3.2GB that I had tried to ransfer, so, after a couple of days of it
 apparently doing nothing, I stopped it, and, as the system monitor
 showed a system load of around 43 (whatever that means - if it was as
 a percentage of system capacity, it could be more meaningful, to me).
 The system monitor currently shows a system load average of about 35.

 As I could not then save any files, due to the interaction with the
 external USB HDD, I tried to unmount the external USB HDD.

 I then got a dialogue box, that is still displayed, which displays

 
 Writing data to hp hard drive

 To prevent data loss, wait until this has finished
 befopre removing media or disconnecting the device.
 

 That dialogue box has been present, with its little bar thing flying
 backward and forward, for about thre or four days, now.

 After about a day, the external USB HDD unmounted.

 I have thence been able to save files to the system internal HDD, and,
 to move files on the system internal HDD.

 The external USB HDD does not show as being mounted, but, shows in the
 file manager, when the Computer icon in the file manage toolbar is
 selected.

 While the external USB HDD is displayed on that screen, in trying to
 mount the external USB HDD, to allow the write action to complete, I
 get the error message

 
 Unable to mount location

 A job is pending on /dev/sdf1
 

 If I try to select the option, from the non-dominant mouseclick menu,
 Safely remove drive (as the external USB HDD is unmounted), I get
 the error mesage

 
 Unable to stop drive

 One or more partitions are busy on /dev/sdf
 

 so I can not mount the external USB HDD, to complete the write action,
 to write whatever data is waiting to be written to it, and, I can not
 safely remove the drive, as the data is waiting to be written to it.

 Whilst it may be said that I could simply unplug the external USB HDD,
 to terminate the connection, and, end the problem, from memory, in so
 doing, in the past, external USB HDD's are thence rendered unusable -
 written off, as is the data that has been written to them.

 So, is a way available, to solve this, without writing off the
 external USB HDD, and the data that has been written to it, and, the
 data that is floating in the ether, waiting to be written to it?

 Thank you in anticipation, for a solution.



The dialogue box with

Writing data to hp hard drive 

has disappeared overnight, and the System Load Average, as displayed
by the System Monitor in the panel, shows the System Load average to
now be less than one.

If I select Safely Remove Drive from the file manager menu obtained
by clicking on the drive with the non-dominant mouse button, I get


Unable to stop drive

DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is
already pending


and


Unable to stop drive

DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a
reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.


And then the icon for the external USB HDD, disappeared, from the
display for Computer, so I unplugged the external USB HDD, and then
plugged it in again, and it displays in the File Manager, and I can
access files on the external USB HDD, which files, I believe, were
part of the files transfer that apparently took about a week.

So, after about a week, the files transfer appears to have completed,
as much as it did complete (about 1.1GB out of an about 3.2GB transfer
of files), and the system appears to have returned to its normal
state.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts,
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992




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Re: Another problem is getting old

2015-03-24 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-23, Bob Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Cookies can be denied/allowed selectively with my version of Iceweasel
 (Preferences/Privacy/Accept cookies from sites/Exceptions).

 You have to select Use custom settings for history under iceweasel
 will to open the cookie manager. 


Yes, thank you for pointing that out; I wasn't exhaustive enough in my
description.


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Re: Another problem is getting old

2015-03-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 24 March 2015 02:59:11 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release

Got it, looks ok.  Thanks Lisi

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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