Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 22 June 2015 17:25:38 Bret Busby wrote:
 On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
  mate, apart from being in spanish,
 
  codswallop!
 
  Lisi

 At
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software)
 is

 
 MATE (/mɑːteɪ/; Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmate]) is a desktop
 environment forked from the now-unmaintained code base of GNOME 2. It
 is named after the South American plant Yerba mate and tea made from
 the herb, mate.[3] The use of a new name, instead of GNOME, avoids
 conflicts with GNOME 3 components.

Sorry everyone.  I said that MATE is available in Spanish.  It would appear 
that I am wrong!!!

quote from http://mate-desktop.org/
MATE Desktop Environment
Also available in: Français Deutsch Türkçe Italiano polski
/quote

Lisi


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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Martin Read

On 22/06/15 15:32, Gene Heskett wrote:

But from the tone of the messages, I think its clear that it should have
spent another 6 months on the back table in a lab someplace, getting the
kinks worked out so the end result for the unwary user who has not
encountered it before, will not be encountering the setup headaches in
the quantities that are currently generating all the derogatory comments
that it is.


Give a program as many months on the back table in a lab someplace as 
you like; you still won't work out all the kinks from the perspective of 
the unwary user simply because it's very, very rare for the lab to 
contain any in the first place.


At least some (though by no means all) of the setup headaches people 
have encountered in the wheezy-jessie transition as a result of systemd 
can fairly be described as I have an unusual setup with a lot of 
locally-managed configuration, but despite that it didn't occur to me 
that it might be a good idea to read the release notes, and maybe do 
some investigation on a 'scratch' system, before updating my 
'production' system(s) from version 7.x of their OS to version 8.0.



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Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval

2015-06-22 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 09:25:29AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Jun 2015, Tim Beelen wrote:
  Is it true? Is Google actively listening in on my conversations?
 
 Google is if you're using google now, but chromium on Debian is not.

No, It has to be activated manually. One can use NOW without the 'OK
Google' opton enabled. I had to manually activate it, and was asked the
1st time Chrome with NOW audio functionality was added.

 


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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Erwan David
Le 22/06/2015 16:22, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
 Using Debian, or any other FLOSS software, is not compulsory. Manners
 and gratitude to those who work for us for nothing are - or should be.
 Lisi 

Problem is not everybody think they work for Us, those who where debian
users far before they came to linux.


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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
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On 22/06/2015 11:49 PM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:
 If it quacks like a duck, it's a  duck, plain and simple.
 
 I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a cancer
 
 And I think Debian can do fine without people who only contribute
 toxic behaviour. And yes, calling other projects a cancer is just
 that.

It has all the hallmarks of cancer, growing beyond itself to the
potential death of that which it has invaded.

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Re: (SOLUCIONADO) Re: No me funcionan las teclas de control de brillo, volumen, multimedia...

2015-06-22 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:04:54 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 El 22/06/15 a las 16:37, Eduardo Rios escribió:
 El 22/06/15 a las 16:08, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 Me atrevería a decir que es un bug del paquete gnome-settings-daemon,
 pero lo que he encontrado es para la versión 3.14, y a mi esa me iba
 bien...

 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560131
 
 Como me temía, se trata de un bug en el paquete gnome-setting-daemon 
 3.16.2-3
 
 He añadido al sources.list el repositorio de Jessie y he DESACTUALIZADO 
 el paquete, instalando la versión 3.14.2-3 y me ha vuelto a funcionar 
 las teclas. :)

Vale, entonces se trata de este bug ;-)

gnome-settings-daemon: Keyboard shortcuts do not work after update to 
version 3.16.2-3
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789474

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Re: [Off-topic] joomla 3.4.1 con ldap

2015-06-22 Thread Carlos Manuel Escalona Villeda
primeramente necesitas instalar php5-ldap, las instrucciones para active
directory deberían servirte, el único cambio está en los strings que vas a
utilizar para encontrar a tus usuarios (y la ruta del servidor ldap por
supuesto).

El lun., 22 de jun. de 2015 a la(s) 10:18 a. m., Adrià ad...@fsfe.org
escribió:

 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:10:51AM -0400, Ariel wrote:
  hola lista alguna referencia para linkear el sistema de autenticacion de
  joomla 3.4.1 con un ldap en debian, he buscado algunos ejemplos en google
  pero en su mayoria son con el directorio activo de windows.

 Que el LDAP esté o no funcionando bajo Debian no es relevante.
 Incluso, en Debian hay por lo menos dos servidores de directorio (389
 y OpenLDAP); quizá éste fuera un dato más necesario. Por eso lo he
 marcado como Off-topic.

 En todo caso, aquí explican cómo enlazarlo con Zimbra (que funciona
 con OpenLDAP): http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=708t=788785.


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Re: Systemd takes more that 1m 30sec to start firewall at boot

2015-06-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, Johann Spies wrote:
 I get this:
 
 └─shorewall.service @11.793s +1min 31.901s
[...]
 └─run-user-132.mount @1min 48.874s
[...]
 How do I find out why run-user-132.mount takes 48.874s to finish?

I'd first figure out who is user 132 (id 132), and then try running

systemctl status -l run-user-132.mount;

All that's going on there is a tmpfs is being mounted, which really
should not take that much time.

Someone else may have some additional ideas.

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Re: Recurring disk activity

2015-06-22 Thread Mayuresh
 On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 04:01:38PM +0530, Mayuresh wrote:
 
 Is your Load_Cycle_Count continuously increasing?

Doesn't look like. It was 3634 when I started watching and over last few
minutes it changed only to 3635.

 Install smartmontools.  I also think think you should set up regular
 drive selftests.  Ask if you want me to suggest something about this.

Yes, please do suggest.

Mayuresh.


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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
 mate, apart from being in spanish,

 codswallop!

 Lisi



At
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software)
is


MATE (/mɑːteɪ/; Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmate]) is a desktop
environment forked from the now-unmaintained code base of GNOME 2. It
is named after the South American plant Yerba mate and tea made from
the herb, mate.[3] The use of a new name, instead of GNOME, avoids
conflicts with GNOME 3 components.


Spanish.

At
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate
is


Yerba mate (from Spanish [ˈʝerβa ˈmate]


Spanish.


At
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_(beverage)
is


Mate (Spanish: [ˈmate]


Spanish.

At
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software)
is


MATE has forked a number of applications originating as the GNOME Core
Applications, and developers have written several other applications
from scratch. The forked applications have new names - mostly in
Spanish:



But, them, you are the all-knowing ex-spurt, ane everyone who thinks
differently to you, is automatically absolutely wrong.

As you said, tha mate desktop is not spanish - it is codswallop.

And, as you are obviously always absolutely correct, the mate desktop
must be codswallop.

And, obviously, anyone who disagrees, must be wrong, because you said it.

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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:


 But you are just a troll

Me a troll?

Is it me who started flaming a list subscriber who was trying to get
something working in Debian?

Strange - I thought that an objective of this list, was to help people
who can not get things working in Debian, rather than the gratuitous
flaming that you impose on victims.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
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On 23/06/2015 1:43 AM, Martin Read wrote:
 On 22/06/15 15:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
 But from the tone of the messages, I think its clear that it
 should have spent another 6 months on the back table in a lab
 someplace, getting the kinks worked out so the end result for the
 unwary user who has not encountered it before, will not be
 encountering the setup headaches in the quantities that are
 currently generating all the derogatory comments that it is.
 
 Give a program as many months on the back table in a lab
 someplace as you like; you still won't work out all the kinks from
 the perspective of the unwary user simply because it's very, very
 rare for the lab to contain any in the first place.

Again, not so simple.  I'm just trying out Thunderbird with maildir
storage instead of mbox -- they've been working on it for quite a
while in dev versions, but nothing has been released until version
38.0.1 and it has problems.

I was looking forward to storing local copies of emails which I had to
stop due to how TB was handling very large mail stores; looks like
I'll have to wait longer for this , but I am hoping the help identify
the bugs.

systemd come about reasonably quickly, which is very unusual for
Debian.  Along with it comes all sorts of changes and serious problems
that are very detrimental and the stable, safe secure and oft called
stale Debian has been lost.  I never did mind those original traits, I
certainly don't like where Debian is going with systemd ... it's like
someone come along and chopped off the nose to spite the face.

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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-22 1:23 PM, Proxy One wrote:
 By default, it will send sound to it's local sound card (pulse audio or
 alsa). You can instead send that sound on some port as
 httpd type and stream it so it can be captured by some external
 application. 

 audio_output {
 typehttpd
 nameMy HTTP Stream
 encoder vorbis# optional, vorbis or lame
 port8001
 bitrate 128   # do not define if quality is 
 defined
 format  44100:16:1
 }

 I used vlc and mplayer to listen that kind of stream on my computer.


 HTH
Thanks a lot for this, I will try it out. Where in the mpd.conf file
should I put this?

Have you used or tried GMPC, once you do, you might give up on vlc.

Here's a link: http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/GMPC_FEATURES

To be clear, I want to use GMPC, installed on my laptop, to control mpd
that is installed on the NAS. And so by doing this, listen to music on
my laptop. I hope this is clear now.

Thanks a lot for your input.


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Re: Servidor syslog generando consultas DNS

2015-06-22 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:53:06 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 El 22/06/15 a las 10:34, Camaleón escibió:
 El Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:58:53 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 (...)

 Resumiendo: Tengo un servidor de syslog el cual recibe logs de
 determinados hosts remotos con IP privada y genera consultas DNS para
 las IPs de dichos hosts. Lo que me interesa saber es porque pasa esto.
 Es normal? Es un error en la configuración de syslog???

 Cualquier ayuda es bienvenida. Saludos y muchas gracias,
 What does RFC 1918 response from Internet for 0.0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA
 mean?
 https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-00204/0/What-does-RFC-1918-response-from-Internet-for-0.0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA-mean.html

 Saludos,

 Camaleón, en mi mensaje original decía lo siguiente:
 
 Investigando un poco encuentro que lo que está pasando es que se están 
 enviando consultas a los Root Name Servers consultando por IPs privadas, 
 lo cual no debería pasar claro está. Dejando por un momento la 
 configuración de Bind (la cual estoy revisando) me pregunto por qué mi 
 servidor de syslog está haciendo consultas DNS por un host del cual 
 recibe logs?
 
 Osea lo que quiero saber primero es porque mi servidor de syslog está 
 generando esas consultas y no como evitar que las mismas lleguen a los 
 Root Name Server (lo cual por supuesto también solucionaré, pero como 
 decía, primero quiero saber el porque de la consulta).
 
 Alguno tiene una idea de qué puede estar pasando?

Pues hombre, salvo que lo hayas configurado para que busque los equipos 
por IP tendrá que preguntar a su servidor DNS que entiendo es el equipo 
con Bind. 

Como dice el artículo, significa que lo tienes mal configurado.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
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On 23/06/2015 12:31 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
 But please, please: don't pour hate on people writing free
 software. This is not helping anyone (well, it is helping those not
 wanting free software to succeed!).

Unfortunately it's not that simple tomás ... not that simple at all.

Those that chose to go down the systemd path have created all sorts of
grief and a hell of a lot more work for those that don't want anything
to do with systemd and it's overreach in to other areas.  So much so,
that I don't consider Debian to be Debian any more and that is very
sad in itself.

Before systemd I was a very happy Debian camper, now it is a nightmare.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread tomas
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:47:06AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
 On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:31:02 +0200
 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
 
  But let's not forget they are writing *free software*, and just therefore
  they deserve a *thank you*. Even if we choose to not use this software.
 
 Even if, by hook or by crook, they are intent on imposing the use of the free 
 software ?
 
 Which means we would loose the option of not using it ?

It is possible to use Debian without systemd. Do something about it,
if you care. I'll thank you.

regards
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Re: Machine Jessie ne s'arrête pas

2015-06-22 Thread Anthony Papillon
Bonjour,

Chez moi j'ai des montages réseaux qui demande du délai à l’arrêt de la machine.
Peut etre regarder du coté des montages en place.

Vu que tu parles de problème suite à l'ouverture de session, si tu
ouvres une session en mode console (hors graphique) tu as le meme
problème ?

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Re: Machine Jessie ne s'arrête pas moi être bœuf)

2015-06-22 Thread moi-meme
Le Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:20:02 +0200, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :

 Toute piste sera la bienvenue (hormis celles consistant à désinstaller
 Systemd,
 merci d'avance de vous abstenir).

j'ai eu le problème sur une Wheezie

dans /etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh
je n'ai gardé que la ligne

# Normal handling.
/sbin/shutdown -h -P now Power button pressed

même très goret d'ailleurs, mais ça marche alors la finesse :-(

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Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval

2015-06-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015, Tim Beelen wrote:
 Is it true? Is Google actively listening in on my conversations?

Google is if you're using google now, but chromium on Debian is not.

 Apparently this:
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909

See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909#81 for
details as to why it doesn't matter in Debian.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Erwan David
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 06:27:16PM CEST, to...@tuxteam.de said:
 
 My take is: I am a fan of Debian. I don't want systemd on my computer.
 Systemd is the default, and their proponents are no idiots and I assume
 good intentions. I accept that their viewpoint is as valid as mine.
 
 So it is (in part) on me to keep Debian without systemd a viable option.
 
 There are many dependencies on systemd (e.g. Gnome) which aren't Debian's
 fault. No problem for me, since I don't particularly care for Gnome, but
 perhaps there are other needs.
 
 As I see it, there are quite smart people on both sides of the debate
 and it seems best to try to get along instead of slinging accusations
 at each other (both sides have been very effective at that, and
 sadly, I'm not innocent in this either. I regret that).

My feeling is also that once you begin to ask for explanations (how or
why) it is considered by some systemd fans as a frontal attack, which it is not.

What is the use of this libsystemd0 you get even when systemd was
never installed ?

Where are migration tutorials, docs for people who did not develop systemd ?

To those questions I never got answers or even worse (like when I was
answered that I had to write the docs).

I still have a setting working without systemd that I do not know hoxw
to make with it. I still do not know what a mount unit is. I saw that
systemd can start daemons when a certain disk is mounted, I still look
how to do it, etc...

If I where to write a doc now it would be : this setting was possible,
systemd maks it impossible. Which is surely false, but given the info
I get, may become a reality.




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Re: [Off-topic] joomla 3.4.1 con ldap

2015-06-22 Thread Adrià
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:10:51AM -0400, Ariel wrote:
 hola lista alguna referencia para linkear el sistema de autenticacion de
 joomla 3.4.1 con un ldap en debian, he buscado algunos ejemplos en google
 pero en su mayoria son con el directorio activo de windows.

Que el LDAP esté o no funcionando bajo Debian no es relevante.
Incluso, en Debian hay por lo menos dos servidores de directorio (389
y OpenLDAP); quizá éste fuera un dato más necesario. Por eso lo he
marcado como Off-topic.

En todo caso, aquí explican cómo enlazarlo con Zimbra (que funciona
con OpenLDAP): http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=708t=788785.


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Re: joomla 3.4.1 con ldap

2015-06-22 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:10:51 -0400, Ariel escribió:

 hola lista alguna referencia para linkear el sistema de autenticacion de
 joomla 3.4.1 con un ldap en debian, he buscado algunos ejemplos en
 google pero en su mayoria son con el directorio activo de windows.

Configure Joomla 3 for LDAP Authentication
http://blog.zwiegnet.com/linux-server/configure-joomla-3-for-ldap-authentication/

Developer: LDAP from scratch
http://community.joomla.org/component/zine/article/507-developer-ldap-from-scratch-sam-moffatt.html

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Ron
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:31:02 +0200
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

 But let's not forget they are writing *free software*, and just therefore
 they deserve a *thank you*. Even if we choose to not use this software.

Even if, by hook or by crook, they are intent on imposing the use of the free 
software ?

Which means we would loose the option of not using it ?
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 22 June 2015 17:25:38 Bret Busby wrote:
 On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
  mate, apart from being in spanish,
 
  codswallop!
 
  Lisi

 At
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software)
 is

 
 MATE (/mɑːteɪ/; Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmate]) is a desktop
 environment forked from the now-unmaintained code base of GNOME 2. It
 is named after the South American plant Yerba mate and tea made from
 the herb, mate.[3] The use of a new name, instead of GNOME, avoids
 conflicts with GNOME 3 components.

The NAME is Spanish.  The desktop is available in Spanish.  Do you have some 
racial prejudice against it as a result so that you cannot even look at it 
because of that?

Pity that while you were Googling you didn't find this:
http://mate-desktop.org/

But you are just a troll and it is stupid of me to answer.  You haven't got a 
real problem and you don't want a solution.  You just want to rant.

Lisi


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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread claude juif
2015-06-22 16:56 GMT+02:00 Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk:

 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 03:22:30PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Monday 22 June 2015 14:49:39 Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
   Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:
If it quacks like a duck, it's a  duck, plain and simple.
   
I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a cancer
  
   And I think Debian can do fine without people who only contribute toxic
   behaviour. And yes, calling other projects a cancer is just that.
 
  Why people who think like that don't just switch to BSD, or, if they
 must,
  Devuan, beats me.
 
  And isn't Gentoo still systemd free?


 According to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems,
 no. Gentoo supports systemd (it's not the default init, but for those
 people who seem to be allergic to systemd, I suspect that this is
 contamination enough).


Gentoo can be systemd free, Just don't set the systemd USE flag.



 
  Using Debian, or any other FLOSS software, is not compulsory.  Manners
 and
  gratitude to those who work for us for nothing are - or should be.
 
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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-22 11:49 AM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote:
 Hello,

 I got a bit confused. Does ario works or not? Have you tried playing
 an audio file with a different player?
No, ario does not work. And I don't know if the problem is with ario or
gmpc. And this is the reason I mentioned all in the initial post. So I
can see how best I can track down the problem.

 Do you run mpd as a system service or under your account?
 If you have modified your mpd configuration, would be really helpful to 
 have a look at it.
It belongs in the multimedia group. I have not edit the mpd.conf file at
all, except to show it the directory of the music folder.

 If you start an audio mixer (alsamixer) do you see any controls for you 
 sound card?
I'm on pulse. I can remove it, along with pulsecontrol, if you think
this might help. But I know that the mpd.conf file has a pulse entry in
the audio output section.

Thanks a lot for your help. If I can get this trio of applications to
work, it indeed would be great, as they're all great pieces of software.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread tomas
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 On 23/06/2015 12:31 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
  But please, please: don't pour hate on people writing free
  software. This is not helping anyone (well, it is helping those not
  wanting free software to succeed!).
 
 Unfortunately it's not that simple tomás ... not that simple at all.

It *is* so simple (see below).

 Those that chose to go down the systemd path have created all sorts of
 grief and a hell of a lot more work for those that don't want anything
 to do with systemd and it's overreach in to other areas.  So much so,
 that I don't consider Debian to be Debian any more and that is very
 sad in itself.

My take is: I am a fan of Debian. I don't want systemd on my computer.
Systemd is the default, and their proponents are no idiots and I assume
good intentions. I accept that their viewpoint is as valid as mine.

So it is (in part) on me to keep Debian without systemd a viable option.

There are many dependencies on systemd (e.g. Gnome) which aren't Debian's
fault. No problem for me, since I don't particularly care for Gnome, but
perhaps there are other needs.

As I see it, there are quite smart people on both sides of the debate
and it seems best to try to get along instead of slinging accusations
at each other (both sides have been very effective at that, and
sadly, I'm not innocent in this either. I regret that).

Let's just roll up our sleeves, drop the insults (and ignore those).

regards
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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 22 June 2015 17:25:38 Bret Busby wrote:
 On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
  mate, apart from being in spanish,
 
  codswallop!
 
  Lisi

 At
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software)
 is

 
 MATE (/mɑːteɪ/; Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmate]) is a desktop
 environment forked from the now-unmaintained code base of GNOME 2. It
 is named after the South American plant Yerba mate and tea made from
 the herb, mate.[3] The use of a new name, instead of GNOME, avoids
 conflicts with GNOME 3 components.

 The NAME is Spanish.  The desktop is available in Spanish.  Do you have some

 racial prejudice against it as a result so that you cannot even look at it
 because of that?



The names of the applications are also in spanish.

Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?

And, does it have all of thev functionality of gnome 2, including (but
not limited to) allowing the panel to be positioned along the bottom
of the screen, and, inclusion of the system monitor applet in the
panel?

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Ron
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:09:43 +0200
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

   But let's not forget they are writing *free software*, and just therefore
   they deserve a *thank you*. Even if we choose to not use this software.  
  
  Even if, by hook or by crook, they are intent on imposing the use of the 
  free software ?
  
  Which means we would loose the option of not using it ?  
 
 It is possible to use Debian without systemd. Do something about it,
 if you care. I'll thank you.

Seems the nice people at Devuan are doing just that.
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread tomas
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 03:49:39PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:
  If it quacks like a duck, it's a  duck, plain and simple.
 
  I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a cancer
 
 And I think Debian can do fine without people who only contribute toxic
 behaviour. And yes, calling other projects a cancer is just that.

Agreed.

Look. I don't like systemd. I don't like its approach, i don't like its
design. I even dislike the attitude of some important members of that
project.

But let's not forget they are writing *free software*, and just therefore
they deserve a *thank you*. Even if we choose to not use this software.

Imagine: there is these days so much free software out there that we
couldn't use all of it if we wanted! Embarrasment of riches!

Be happy. Don't use systemd if you don't want to. Write down your
findings. Help others who want a systemd-free Debian find their
ways. Contribute to eudev, openrc, sysvinit with patches, bug reports,
newbie support, whatever.

But please, please: don't pour hate on people writing free software.
This is not helping anyone (well, it is helping those not wanting
free software to succeed!).

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 June 2015 09:49:39 Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:
  If it quacks like a duck, it's a  duck, plain and simple.
 
  I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a cancer

 And I think Debian can do fine without people who only contribute
 toxic behaviour. And yes, calling other projects a cancer is just
 that.

 Ansgar

I don't know as I'd call it a cancer and have little to judge it by since 
I'm still on wheezy. Since the main application I run is based on 
wheezy, that will only change when the next big thing is truly stable.

But from the tone of the messages, I think its clear that it should have 
spent another 6 months on the back table in a lab someplace, getting the 
kinks worked out so the end result for the unwary user who has not 
encountered it before, will not be encountering the setup headaches in 
the quantities that are currently generating all the derogatory comments 
that it is.

There is a delicate balance between putting it out there to get wider 
feedback when its ready for prime time, and just plain jumping the 
gun.  Obviously this balance wasn't considered, it wasn't quite ready 
for prime time and this is the end result.  Predictable? Probably by 
someone who hasn't yet sampled the koolaid.

Now everyone including me are scared of it.  Can you blame us?  I think 
its foolish of the defenders to do so, and that genuine comnplaints 
should, since its now out there for everyone to kick its tires that 
wants to, be addressed in a timely, speedy manner.  I am not seeing, nor 
am I looking for patches yesterday for tomorrows problems.  What I am 
seeing is far more bashing of the conmplaining user, and less fixes than 
the current situation seems to need.

An old farts 2 cents.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Terence
Using Debian, or any other FLOSS software, is not compulsory.  Manners and
gratitude to those who work for us for nothing are - or should be.

Right on, Lisi, thank you.

Terence

On 22 June 2015 at 15:22, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Monday 22 June 2015 14:49:39 Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
  Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:
   If it quacks like a duck, it's a  duck, plain and simple.
  
   I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a cancer
 
  And I think Debian can do fine without people who only contribute toxic
  behaviour. And yes, calling other projects a cancer is just that.

 Why people who think like that don't just switch to BSD, or, if they must,
 Devuan, beats me.

 And isn't Gentoo still systemd free?

 Using Debian, or any other FLOSS software, is not compulsory.  Manners and
 gratitude to those who work for us for nothing are - or should be.

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(SOLUCIONADO) Re: No me funcionan las teclas de control de brillo, volumen, multimedia...

2015-06-22 Thread Eduardo Rios

El 22/06/15 a las 16:37, Eduardo Rios escribió:

El 22/06/15 a las 16:08, Eduardo Rios escribió:

Me atrevería a decir que es un bug del paquete gnome-settings-daemon,
pero lo que he encontrado es para la versión 3.14, y a mi esa me iba
bien...

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560131


Como me temía, se trata de un bug en el paquete gnome-setting-daemon 
3.16.2-3


He añadido al sources.list el repositorio de Jessie y he DESACTUALIZADO 
el paquete, instalando la versión 3.14.2-3 y me ha vuelto a funcionar 
las teclas. :)



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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 03:22:30PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Monday 22 June 2015 14:49:39 Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
  Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:
   If it quacks like a duck, it's a  duck, plain and simple.
  
   I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a cancer
 
  And I think Debian can do fine without people who only contribute toxic
  behaviour. And yes, calling other projects a cancer is just that.
 
 Why people who think like that don't just switch to BSD, or, if they must, 
 Devuan, beats me.
 
 And isn't Gentoo still systemd free?
 
 Using Debian, or any other FLOSS software, is not compulsory.  Manners and 
 gratitude to those who work for us for nothing are - or should be.


People only complain about systemd being a cancer if they love
the Debian system otherwise.

If they hated Debian, they wouldn't complain. They wouldn't even
be on the list.

If they didn't love Debian, they would just leave when it got
too irksome.

The only people still complaining about systemd are people who
love Debian. 

Remember that every time you tell people to go use something
else, you are saying that they are not valued members of the
community.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Martin Read

On 22/06/15 18:02, Erwan David wrote:

What is the use of this libsystemd0 you get even when systemd was
never installed ?


Utility functions for programs designed to be run in a systemd-based 
environment, or to run in many environments but also take advantage of 
capabilities offered by a systemd-based environment. The nature of 
shared library linking in Unix means that binary executables in the 
latter category need libsystemd0 to be present even if they are being 
run in a non-systemd-based environment.


*If* this bothers you, you should run a source-based distribution 
instead of a binary distribution, so that you have stronger control over 
what software runs on your systems.



Where are migration tutorials, docs for people who did not develop systemd ?


Migration tutorials really are best written by people who both (a) are 
good at writing tutorials (it's a *quite* distinct skill from writing 
reference documentation) and (b) have migrated non-trivial systems from 
$OTHER_INIT_SYSTEM to systemd.


Quite a few people who did not develop systemd have found the man pages 
adequate. What, specifically, do you find inadequate?



I still have a setting working without systemd that I do not know hoxw
to make with it. I still do not know what a mount unit is.


A mount unit is a unit that describes a mount point in the system, 
specifying which filesystem should be mounted, which options should be 
used, etc. Usually, they are automatically generated (with predictable 
names) from the contents of /etc/fstab.



I saw that
systemd can start daemons when a certain disk is mounted, I still look
how to do it, etc...


You can require a certain service to be running before a certain 
filesystem is mounted by writing an explicit mount unit for that 
filesystem which lists the required service as a Requires: dependency.


You can require a certain filesystem to be mounted before a certain 
service can be started by listing that filesystem's mount unit name in 
the dependencies of the service.



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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Konstantinos Pachnis
Could you enable the pulse audio output on /etc/mpd.conf

audio_output {
   typepulse
   nameMy Pulse Output
}

Cheers,

On 22-06-2015, notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-22 11:49 AM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I got a bit confused. Does ario works or not? Have you tried playing
  an audio file with a different player?
 No, ario does not work. And I don't know if the problem is with ario or
 gmpc. And this is the reason I mentioned all in the initial post. So I
 can see how best I can track down the problem.
 
  Do you run mpd as a system service or under your account?
  If you have modified your mpd configuration, would be really helpful to 
  have a look at it.
 It belongs in the multimedia group. I have not edit the mpd.conf file at
 all, except to show it the directory of the music folder.
 
  If you start an audio mixer (alsamixer) do you see any controls for you 
  sound card?
 I'm on pulse. I can remove it, along with pulsecontrol, if you think
 this might help. But I know that the mpd.conf file has a pulse entry in
 the audio output section.
 
 Thanks a lot for your help. If I can get this trio of applications to
 work, it indeed would be great, as they're all great pieces of software.
 
  Cheers,
 
 
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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Martin Read

On 22/06/15 18:01, Bret Busby wrote:

The names of the applications are also in spanish.

Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?


Speaking as a native speaker of English: Yes.

What's wrong with using languages other than English to name programs? 
The last program I wrote is named in Latin (as is one of my favourite 
commercial video games), and the name of the audio player software I use 
on my desktop PC is a word from the Inuit languages.



And, does it have all of thev functionality of gnome 2, including (but
not limited to) allowing the panel to be positioned along the bottom
of the screen, and, inclusion of the system monitor applet in the
panel?


From the wikipedia article:

MATE is a desktop environment forked from the now-unmaintained code 
base of GNOME 2. It is named after the South American plant Yerba mate 
and tea made from the herb, mate. The use of a new name, instead of 
GNOME, avoids conflicts with GNOME 3 components.


From the official web site:

The MATE Desktop Environment is the continuation of GNOME 2.


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Proxy
On 2015-Jun-22 18:34, notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-22 1:23 PM, Proxy One wrote:
  By default, it will send sound to it's local sound card (pulse audio or
  alsa). You can instead send that sound on some port as
  httpd type and stream it so it can be captured by some external
  application. 
 
  audio_output {
  typehttpd
  nameMy HTTP Stream
  encoder vorbis# optional, vorbis or lame
  port8001
  bitrate 128   # do not define if quality 
  is defined
  format  44100:16:1
  }
 
  I used vlc and mplayer to listen that kind of stream on my computer.
 
 
  HTH
 Thanks a lot for this, I will try it out. Where in the mpd.conf file
 should I put this?

You can put that anywhere in your mpd.conf

 Have you used or tried GMPC, once you do, you might give up on vlc.
 
 Here's a link: http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/GMPC_FEATURES
 
 To be clear, I want to use GMPC, installed on my laptop, to control mpd
 that is installed on the NAS. And so by doing this, listen to music on
 my laptop. I hope this is clear now.
 
 Thanks a lot for your input.

You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
with internet radio station. 


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Sobre Respaldos

2015-06-22 Thread Nicolas
Muy buenas,

Estoy intentando crear un servidor de respaldos en ambientes hibridos,
windows- linux, ese servidor por supuesto ejecuta debian-jessie.

Desde mis otros servidores linux estoy haciendo el respaldo con rsync
directo hacia ese nuevo servidor, el problema esta en los servidores
windows.

Mi pregunta es que herramienta es buena para hacer respaldos entre
maquinas windows y linux, ya que rsync no existe en win.

He visto bacula pero me parece un poco complicadillo, deja-dup pero
creo que solo funciona en ambientes linux, y back of time que también
es para linux.

No conocerán por allí alguna herramienta intuitiva para hacer
respaldos entre estos dos sistemas.

Si es bacula he buscado paginas en ingles y en español y son o muy
simples que dejan cosas por explicar o muy complicadas. Si me
recomiendan este sistema me gustaría que me recomendaran también un
buen howto de este sistema que nunca lo he usado.

Gracias,
Nicolás Disquin


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Proxy One
On 2015-Jun-22 20:53, Proxy wrote:
 On 2015-Jun-22 18:34, notoneofmy wrote:
  On 15-06-22 1:23 PM, Proxy One wrote:
   By default, it will send sound to it's local sound card (pulse audio or
   alsa). You can instead send that sound on some port as
   httpd type and stream it so it can be captured by some external
   application. 
  
   audio_output {
   typehttpd
   nameMy HTTP Stream
   encoder vorbis# optional, vorbis or lame
   port8001
   bitrate 128   # do not define if 
   quality is defined
   format  44100:16:1
   }
  
   I used vlc and mplayer to listen that kind of stream on my computer.
  
  
   HTH
  Thanks a lot for this, I will try it out. Where in the mpd.conf file
  should I put this?
 
 You can put that anywhere in your mpd.conf
 
  Have you used or tried GMPC, once you do, you might give up on vlc.
  
  Here's a link: http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/GMPC_FEATURES
  
  To be clear, I want to use GMPC, installed on my laptop, to control mpd
  that is installed on the NAS. And so by doing this, listen to music on
  my laptop. I hope this is clear now.
  
  Thanks a lot for your input.
 
 You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
 control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
 listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
 some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
 with internet radio station. 

It seams that there is actually a way to use only GMPC (kinda, as you
still need mplayer installed):
http://blog.sarine.nl/2011/02/06/gmpcmpdssh-listen-to-your-music-from-home-at-work/

You don't need that ssh port forwarding to make it work, but if you
don't limit mpd http port to your laptop's address, anyone could capture
that stream. Not really a issue if it's on your local network. 

I haven't tried this and it's a little old article, but I guess it will
work.

Regards,
PO
 


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Re: Servidor syslog generando consultas DNS

2015-06-22 Thread Mauro Antivero

El 22/06/15 a las 10:34, Camaleón escibió:

El Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:58:53 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

(...)


Resumiendo: Tengo un servidor de syslog el cual recibe logs de
determinados hosts remotos con IP privada y genera consultas DNS para
las IPs de dichos hosts. Lo que me interesa saber es porque pasa esto.
Es normal? Es un error en la configuración de syslog???

Cualquier ayuda es bienvenida. Saludos y muchas gracias,

What does RFC 1918 response from Internet for 0.0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA
mean?
https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-00204/0/What-does-RFC-1918-response-from-Internet-for-0.0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA-mean.html

Saludos,


Camaleón, en mi mensaje original decía lo siguiente:

Investigando un poco encuentro que lo que está pasando es que se están 
enviando consultas a los Root Name Servers consultando por IPs privadas, 
lo cual no debería pasar claro está. Dejando por un momento la 
configuración de Bind (la cual estoy revisando) me pregunto por qué mi 
servidor de syslog está haciendo consultas DNS por un host del cual 
recibe logs?


Osea lo que quiero saber primero es porque mi servidor de syslog está 
generando esas consultas y no como evitar que las mismas lleguen a los 
Root Name Server (lo cual por supuesto también solucionaré, pero como 
decía, primero quiero saber el porque de la consulta).


Alguno tiene una idea de qué puede estar pasando?

Saludos y muchas gracias,

Mauro.


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joomla 3.4.1 con ldap

2015-06-22 Thread Ariel
hola lista alguna referencia para linkear el sistema de autenticacion de 
joomla 3.4.1 con un ldap en debian, he buscado algunos ejemplos en 
google pero en su mayoria son con el directorio activo de windows.


gracias de antemano


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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 03:22:30PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Monday 22 June 2015 14:49:39 Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
  Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:
   If it quacks like a duck, it's a  duck, plain and simple.
  
   I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a cancer
 
  And I think Debian can do fine without people who only contribute toxic
  behaviour. And yes, calling other projects a cancer is just that.
 
 Why people who think like that don't just switch to BSD, or, if they must, 
 Devuan, beats me.
 
 And isn't Gentoo still systemd free?

According to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems,
no. Gentoo supports systemd (it's not the default init, but for those
people who seem to be allergic to systemd, I suspect that this is
contamination enough).

 
 Using Debian, or any other FLOSS software, is not compulsory.  Manners and 
 gratitude to those who work for us for nothing are - or should be.
 
 Lisi
 
 
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Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch

2015-06-22 Thread Martin Read

On 22/06/15 18:26, Zebediah C. McClure wrote:

What is the correct way to work towards not having systemd be installed by
default in stretch?


That depends on your goal.

If your goal is to have a dpkg-based Linux distribution which leverages 
the good work done in Debian and does not use systemd as the init 
daemon, you might do well to consider contributing to the Devuan project 
whichever of money, labour, or cheerleading is most mutually congenial.


If your goal is for something other than systemd to be the default init 
system of Debian stretch, then *well* before stretch enters freeze, you 
need to have contributed to Debian a system initialization and service 
management system that over 50% of active Debian Developers think is an 
adequate *replacement* for systemd.



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Re: Shutdown em HP ML 110 G4 com Debian 7.8

2015-06-22 Thread Gustavo S. L.
2015-06-22 15:25 GMT-03:00 Gustavo Villela gville...@gmail.com:

 Prezados,

 Tenho um servidor HP Proliant ML 110 G4, é uma máquina antiga mais que
 atende perfeitamente a necessidade da empresa. Eu tinha instalado nela um
 debian 5 com 3 HDs de 250 GB cada, sda com o /root, sdb e sdc em raid 1 com
 os dados da empresa.

 Ate ai estava tudo ok. Troquei os HDs do raid para 1 TB cada e atualizei o
 debian, refiz toda a configuração do equipamento e deixei funcionando como
 antes, a não ser pelo desligamento da máquina. Toda sexta-feira a empresa
 desliga o equipamento, só que agora nenhum comando mais desliga ela, nem
 halt, nem shutdown -h, nem init 0, só tirando o cabo mesmo. Qualquer
 comando acima usado faz a máquina reiniciar.

 Alguém ai já passou por isso?

 Fui ate a HP, pensando em atualizar a BIOS, mais o equipamento tem que
 estar na garantia para que eu possa baixar a nova versão, coisa que achei
 um absurdo.

 Será que consigo resolver isso compilando o kernel, quais opções eu
 deveria habilitar ou desabilitar ?

 Ajudas serão bem vindas.


Seria bom ver o log no momento em que executa os comandos. Quem sabe com: *tail
-f /var/log/*.log | grep -iE 'error|warning'*.



 Obrigado.




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12 Studencki Festiwal Informatyczny-2016.

2015-06-22 Thread Krzysztof Zubik

Witam.
Mam dla Was Wielka Niespodzianke i podaje wiadomosc
o nadchodzacym Studenckim Festiwalu Informatycznym-2016 w Krakowie.
Mozna by zapytac czemu, to Wielka Niespodzianka? Dlatego, ze z rekorodwo
duzym wyprzedzeniem jest znany jego termin od 10 do 12 marca 2016 t.j.
od czwartku do soboty.

Witryny glowna pod http://sfi.org.pl i u gory widnieje termin.
O nim na fb. pod
https://www.facebook.com/Studencki.Festiwal.Informatyczny
oraz wydarzenie pod
https://www.facebook.com/events/487974531358815

Gdzie dokladnie on w Krakowie bedzie dowiemy sie i na to mamy duzo czasu.
Pewnie jak dotad on bedzie w ktores wyzszej uczelni.

Czy ja bede okaze sieczy w tym samym czasie nie berdzie inna dobra impreza,
czy dam rade pojechac przy moich trudnosciach w poruszaniu sie. W
kazdym razie bardzo bede sie staral zeby pojechac.

Open Source jest dziś największym i najważniejszym nurtem w sektorze IT 
- albo dasz się ponieść na fali, albo utoniesz próbując płynąć pod prąd...

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Re: Shutdown em HP ML 110 G4 com Debian 7.8

2015-06-22 Thread Gustavo S. L.
2015-06-22 16:42 GMT-03:00 Gustavo Villela gville...@gmail.com:

 Fala Gustavo,

 Cara, assim eu ainda não fiz, só analisei mesmo o syslog que não mostra
 nenhum tipo de erro ou aviso, só fala que o sistema esta sendo desligado.
 Pode ser que com o filtro sugerido por vc, eu pegue algum erro em outro
 log qualquer.


Entendi. Dê uma olhada no arquivo */etc/default/halt* e verifique se a
variável *HALT* está setada como *poweroff*.


Re: Dlna client and backup

2015-06-22 Thread maderios



Le 22/06/2015 20:30, Diogene Laerce a écrit :



On 06/21/2015 11:20 PM, notoneofmyseeds wrote:

On 06/19/2015 11:13 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote:

If you look for a light dlna server, minidlna is the one.

Good luck,

Thanks for this, I'm running minidlna right now. It's nuts to think
that there's no dlna client, just client by itself, for Linux. What?
Woa! Tons for MPD, however, just not dlna. Am I missing something,
looking for the wrong thing?



Hi

As often, it depends on what you need : I use minidlna because it is not
focused on music but can play videos and pictures as well. It functions
easily with TVs, where I can't decide of the client.


I use Mediatomb for videos, music and pictures on TV . Very light too, 
easy to configure, many possibilities.


M


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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:05:28PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
 Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org writes:
  People only complain about systemd being a cancer if they love
  the Debian system otherwise.
 [...]
  Remember that every time you tell people to go use something
  else, you are saying that they are not valued members of the
  community.
 
 I do indeed not consider people with toxic behaviour as valued members
 of the community.  Loving something is *not* an excuse for such
 behaviour.
 
 Short outbursts of temper I can understand, and I assume so can most
 others, but continued abuse over a long time is not something I think we
 should put up with. It's just damaging and drives other users and people
 who contribute away (and this has happened already over this specific
 behaviour).

You're absolutely right. 

The next time a systemd booster tells people to leave the
community rather than try to fix Debian, please call them on
that behavior and tell them you won't stand for it.

-dsr-


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Re: Sobre Respaldos

2015-06-22 Thread Pablo JIMÉNEZ
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 03:23:28PM -0430, Nicolas wrote:
 Muy buenas,
 
 Estoy intentando crear un servidor de respaldos en ambientes hibridos,
 windows- linux, ese servidor por supuesto ejecuta debian-jessie.
 
 Desde mis otros servidores linux estoy haciendo el respaldo con rsync
 directo hacia ese nuevo servidor, el problema esta en los servidores
 windows.
 
 Mi pregunta es que herramienta es buena para hacer respaldos entre
 maquinas windows y linux, ya que rsync no existe en win.

Existe, pero como parte de Cygwin:

http://bit.ly/1K7RgRb

Y acá también mencionan aquello:

http://gwolf.org/files/respaldos_con_rsync_0.pdf
http://www.vicente-navarro.com/blog/2008/01/13/backups-con-rsync/

Saludos.

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Re: network configuration

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmyseeds

On 06/22/2015 10:39 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

You say networks.  Is that the same as ethernet interfaces?  You have
two ethernet interfaces?  Or you have one ethernet interface that you
sometimes connect to one wired network and sometimes to a different
wired network?
Bob, your ever so detailed and kind responses are simply wonderful. 
Sorry for the naming. You explanation as understood is correct: 


one ethernet interface that you sometimes connect to one wired network and 
sometimes to a different wired network?



Is this a laptop that is carried mobile to various places?  Or is it a
laptop that always sits in one place and needs to connect to different
networks in that one place?  (I would suggest different things if it
iis three fully specified local networks with static ip addresses
versus if it were carried mobile and must connect to random dhcp
networks too.)

For now, this is a laptop that is located in one place.


On these networks are they DHCP or static IPs?

All networks are DHCP.


For the WiFi network are you needing to select them manually from a
desktop graphically with the mouse?  Or is this from a set of known
networks that you would preconfigure and then not change?  (Such as in
a home network environment but not mobile at airports or elsewhere.)
Home network, just select and go. So for now, I simply disconnect the 
wired when I want to use the wireless and disconnect the wireless when I 
want to use the wifi. I do this with Network manager. And it's a tiring 
business.



And when I do this, hope to be connected to a respective network based
on my explicit rules.

Have you looked at the guessnet package?  It might help you.

   http://guessnet.alioth.debian.org/

   https://packages.debian.org/jessie/guessnet

There are also whereami and other packages in this topic space too.


I hope this can work. And I hope I have explained a bit more enough.
Are there rules I must follow to do this properly. As I've tried before
without success.
Thanks for your help.

There are still many possibilities.  But if we go through more
questions and answers then it will eventually be communicated.:-)

So far we have the above and your previously written:


I'm using a laptop and want the wifi to go online, but the ethernet to
stay on a different lan networks, actually two different networks. And
I worry how to proceed with such a configuration. Ideas?

Let me assume you want to keep NetworkManager (or better wicd)
managing your wifi interface but manually configure your eth0 and eth1
wired interfaces.  For that you would simply add a static or dhcp
configuration to /etc/network/interfaces for eth0 and eth1 but not
specify wlan0.  (Reboot after doing this so that NM won't grab eth0
and eth1.)  With that configuration you will manually select the WiFi
connection to the internet as you say.  As you connect the wired
networks they will use the explicit configuration in
/etc/network/interfaces for them.

If you have only one wired ethernet and are planning on connecting
back and forth between two wired networks then it is similar but I
would use guessnet to manage the interface so that it can
automatically switch you between the specified network profiles.

Would I need to remove network manager to use the guessnet option?


And so forth...

Bob



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Re: network configuration

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmyseeds

On 06/22/2015 10:39 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

If you have only one wired ethernet and are planning on connecting
back and forth between two wired networks then it is similar but I
would use guessnet to manage the interface so that it can
automatically switch you between the specified network profiles.
...and not to make matters any complicated, would guessnet allow me to 
be connected to the wifi and Ethernet at the same time, without loosing 
access to the Internet? It is the case now that if I connect with both, 
I loose Internet and can only access the local network.



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Re: Backup criptografado

2015-06-22 Thread Linux - Junior Polegato

On 22-06-2015 17:12, Fábio Rabelo wrote:

Boa tarde
Alguém conhece algum software de backup que rode em Linux, que salve o 
conteúdo no Dropbox, mas que criptografe tudo que ele sava ??

Mesmo que seja pago ?
Fábio Rabelo


Olá!

Faço os backups comprimidos, gerando arquivos .bz2, criptografo 
com gpg e depois envio para o disco virtual como se fosse um arquivo 
qualquer, isso tudo via script agendado no cron.


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Re: New Debian contributors

2015-06-22 Thread Gustavo S. L.
2015-06-22 17:14 GMT-03:00 Rafael Pinheiro rafaelp...@gmail.com:

 A dificuldade que vejo para contribuir é a que o Flavio citou, de não ter
 uma pessoa que te auxilie no começo como um Tutor mesmo.


Oi Rafael,

Qualquer pessoa pode ser mentor, pois mentoria é algo que depende, ao meu
ver, de disponibilidade. No entanto há muitos mentores experientes que
estão ajudando a todo vapor também como por exemplo o Eriberto com inúmeros
materiais disponíveis sobre empacotamento, o Terceiro sempre ajudando no
IRC #debian-devel-br, e Fred e Marcelo Santana na tradução sempre muito
ativa. As dicas dadas nessa thread são dicas de mentoria também. Mesmo
singelamente algumas pessoas já demonstraram interesse em lhe ajudar no que
for preciso no decorrer do tópico. Aproveita e surfa! Acho que a sua ideia
em ajudar através da lista de email e com a tradução vai ser não apenas um
ótimo ponta a pé inicial como também vai contribuir em atividades
fundamentais e inclusive muito honradas. Eu por exemplo não participo da
tradução, mas admiro muito o trabalho que é feito. No que precisar só
pedir, seja na lista ou no IRC. abç


Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote:
 But all of this digression into discussing the mate desktop
 environment stll does not get either Debian 6 or 7 working with either
 the intel, or the nvidia, graphics device, in the Acer V3-772G, to
 drive the external monitor.

Squeeze and Wheezy are old, and neither contained bumblebee.

Try using jessie instead, with no xorg.conf after installing
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and bumblebee.

If you don't see the external monitor in xrandr, then you'll have to
provide the xrandr -q; and Xorg.0.log files again.


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Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch

2015-06-22 Thread Martin Read

On 22/06/15 20:09, Erwan David wrote:

I have a stretch with only parts of systemd and settings that I do not
know how to replicate in systemd: How do I do ?


That depends on which settings those are.


Where so I find docs and tutorials to migrate ?


I have no idea.

 Where can I discuss the problems (no here is not the place).

Perhaps one of the venues for discussion listed at:

https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Where_to_get_help.3F

might be useful. In particular, on examining the Debian mailing list 
archives, I note that the Debian maintainers of systemd appear to be 
willing to answer questions about how to do things under systemd when 
these are posted to the Debian pkg-systemd-maintainers list.



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Re: Dlna client and backup

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmyseeds

On 06/22/2015 10:30 PM, maderios wrote:
I use Mediatomb for videos, music and pictures on TV . Very light too, 
easy to configure, many possibilities.


M 
Thanks for the mention. I know of Mediatomb. But it's a server, not a 
upnp/dlna client. I need a client. I use minidlna as a server already.


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Re: Como sincronizáis el movil con las aplicaciones PIM??

2015-06-22 Thread Debia Linux
2015-06-19 16:21 GMT-05:00 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org:
 Aupa:

 Parece que ya no se buscar ;=)

 Encuentro como meter debian en el movil, pero no como sincronizarlo con KDE
 PIM

 Una opción que he encontrado es montar un servidor kolab, pero me parece un
 poco exagerado.

 Solo quiero conectar, por bluetooth el movil con el ordenador y mantener la
 agenda, los contactos y el calendarios sincronizados.

 Tengo un smatphone android desvinculado con google, osea capado. Meto las apk
 a mano e intento que nadie le este mandando información a esos piratas

 Estoy en fase de desintoxicación de google, prácticamente YA no uso nada de
 google. Excepto el android claro

Por favor tienes que decirme como hacerle, yo estoy en lo mismo, no
deseo que mi informacion sea vendida, como si yo fuera esclavo.

OT: lo mismo hice con Coca Cola, deje de hacerlos ricos. Deje de ser
su cliente, deje de llevarles dinero a sus bolsillos, me quite la
adiccion a este pseudo refresco (y a todos). ¡Asi lo hare con google,
facebook, twitter, apple y todas estas tecnologias que nos ofrecen
espejitos a cambio de nuestra privacidad.

Eso mismo quiero con todo lo que tenga que ver con google. Mi
sugerencia seria instalar nuestro sistema Debian Linux desde cero en
un smartphone, tambien es mi deseo deshacerme de esta empresa que
lucra con mis datos y todo el texto, imagenes, videos, ubicaciones
quiero que sea unicamente para mi.

Propongo que desarrollemos o hagamos, instalemos nuestro sistema
Debian para ser LIBRES. (¿Asi o mas radical? Jejejej).

Debianeromx



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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmyseeds

On 06/22/2015 10:11 PM, Proxy One wrote:

You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
with internet radio station.
OK, I finally get this. OK, now the question is; what can I use to 
listen to the music stream from MPD?

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
For now, this is a local network, so I'm not so worried about security. 
But I will look at the link.
I will post the result soon with the configuration you sent earlier, 
though I need something now to test/listen with, since GMPC is not that. 
Any ideas?


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Proxy One
On 2015-Jun-22 22:56, notoneofmyseeds wrote:
 On 06/22/2015 10:11 PM, Proxy One wrote:
 You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
 control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
 listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
 some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
 with internet radio station.
 OK, I finally get this. OK, now the question is; what can I use to listen to
 the music stream from MPD?

Like I said, you can use mplayer, vlc or any other player capable of
playing network stream. You can even use GMPC as explained in link I
sent if you install shout plugin. On the screenshot on that link you can
see how mplayer is used to actually play the sound. You can use command
like that outside GMPC. Just use IP of your NAS instead of localhost. 


 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
 For now, this is a local network, so I'm not so worried about security. But
 I will look at the link.
 I will post the result soon with the configuration you sent earlier, though
 I need something now to test/listen with, since GMPC is not that. Any ideas?
 
 Cheers
 

Regards,
PO
 


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Re: Escritorio remoto Gnome

2015-06-22 Thread Henry Rojas
Puedes utilizar el vnx a mi me funciona.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

 El 22/6/2015, a las 18:13, Carlos Zuniga carlos@gmail.com escribió:
 
 2015-06-22 17:11 GMT-05:00 Lic. Manuel Salgado manuelsalgado...@gmail.com:
 Saludos a todos:
 Alguien experimentado puede darme una mano sobre la via de conectar a
 un escritorio remoto cuyo gestor de sesiones X es gdm3 con su
 respectivo Gnome, mi duda va tanto como con Ubuntu o debian, en ambos
 me pasa lo mismo. Les ilustro lo que necesito y mi escenario: En mi PC
 tengo Ubuntu 14.04 MATE y necesito hacer conexiones a escritorios de
 servidores que estan en subredes que administro, los cuales tienen
 squeeze y otros Ubuntu 10.04. Lo que deseo es poder conectar a
 sesiones graficas de esos servidores al estilo como lo hacia en
 windows, independientemente del usuario que este logueado o incluso
 cuando no hay ningun usuario logueado, esta ultima manera me ha dado
 muchos dolores de cabeza. Siguiendo un tuto de Youtube he optado por
 la via de Xrdp en cada uno de esos servidores, y desde mi pc a traves
 de remmina establezco una conexion de tipo RDP, y el problema es que
 al configurar los datos (usuario, contraseña, etc) y conectar, lo hace
 pero no se muestra nada mas que una pantalla en negro. No hay
 problemas de filtrado de cortafuegos ni algo por el estilo, todos
 estos puestos estan abiertos.
 Gracias por adelantado cualquier ayuda.
 
 Asumiendo que tienes razones válidas para correr un entorno gráfico en
 un servidor (me suena más a problema X Y [0]), puedes usar las X sobre
 ssh, solo activa X11Forwarding en el ssh del servidor y luego ingresa
 por ssh con el flag -X. Aquí hay más información al respecto [1].
 
 [0] http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
 [1] http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/12772
 
 
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Re: Nova Desktop

2015-06-22 Thread Jose Martinez

Thanks, Sven.  I guess there isn't any point in scratching my head over it.

Que te vaya bien.


On 06/22/2015 06:23 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 16:27 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:

Yeah, that was my understanding as well.  However, with
desktopnova-module-gnome installed, it doesn't change the desktop
wallpaper.  Everything indicates that it is working, I get no
errors.

[...]

I am running Jessie and gnome on an old HP Pavilion d9000 with nvidia


Doesn't work on GNOME, open bug with patch, but no action from the
maintainer for a couple of years:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=651313



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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 22 June 2015 21:56:48 notoneofmyseeds wrote:
 On 06/22/2015 10:11 PM, Proxy One wrote:
  You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
 
  control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
  listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
  some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
  with internet radio station.

 OK, I finally get this. OK, now the question is; what can I use to
 listen to the music stream from MPD?
 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
 For now, this is a local network, so I'm not so worried about security.
 But I will look at the link.
 I will post the result soon with the configuration you sent earlier,
 though I need something now to test/listen with, since GMPC is not that.
 Any ideas?

Did you say which DE, if any?  If so, it would be kind of you to repeat it, 
and if not, what is it?

Lisi


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Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch

2015-06-22 Thread Zebediah C. McClure
On Monday 22 June 2015 21:27:40 Martin Read wrote:
 On 22/06/15 20:37, Zebediah C. McClure wrote:
  I think sysv is a great candidate to replace systemd.  Which system init
  system is most likely to be considered to replace systemd?
 
 Honestly? None. The entire topic caused a great deal of incendiary
 debate among the people who make Debian happen, and I very much doubt
 any of them wish to reignite that any time soon. Certainly, go back to
 sysvinit seems likely to receive *particularly* short shrift. 

 an entirely content Debian user, who thinks jessie is the best Debian
 release he has had the good fortune to use so far.

I'm glad it works well for you. I honestly didn't have a position in the 
systemd debate. I've always run stable, and apart from the odd patch here and 
there it's been stable.

For the fist time ever I've been hit with massive breakage across an update.

Non-booting system because of race condition in drive mounting.
Not correctly assembled lvm-raid volumes,
Syslog-ng udp remote logging broken.
Network manager eth0 auto-dhcp broken.
I haven't tracked it down yet but I also have sound problems on my desktop 
that only appear when systemd is around, and some client's servers that can't 
correctly set their tape drive's block sizes anymore.

systemd is a lot more all encompassing than init, or any of it's replacements 
are, and it's the only package that has caused me any headache. I'd love to 
see the debate reopened, I certainly wouldn't set it as default or mark it 
stable. 

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Escritorio remoto Gnome

2015-06-22 Thread Lic. Manuel Salgado
Saludos a todos:
Alguien experimentado puede darme una mano sobre la via de conectar a
un escritorio remoto cuyo gestor de sesiones X es gdm3 con su
respectivo Gnome, mi duda va tanto como con Ubuntu o debian, en ambos
me pasa lo mismo. Les ilustro lo que necesito y mi escenario: En mi PC
tengo Ubuntu 14.04 MATE y necesito hacer conexiones a escritorios de
servidores que estan en subredes que administro, los cuales tienen
squeeze y otros Ubuntu 10.04. Lo que deseo es poder conectar a
sesiones graficas de esos servidores al estilo como lo hacia en
windows, independientemente del usuario que este logueado o incluso
cuando no hay ningun usuario logueado, esta ultima manera me ha dado
muchos dolores de cabeza. Siguiendo un tuto de Youtube he optado por
la via de Xrdp en cada uno de esos servidores, y desde mi pc a traves
de remmina establezco una conexion de tipo RDP, y el problema es que
al configurar los datos (usuario, contraseña, etc) y conectar, lo hace
pero no se muestra nada mas que una pantalla en negro. No hay
problemas de filtrado de cortafuegos ni algo por el estilo, todos
estos puestos estan abiertos.
Gracias por adelantado cualquier ayuda.


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Re: Sobre Respaldos

2015-06-22 Thread Henry Rojas
Uhmmm... Una pregunta tu necesitas respaldo ??? O sincronizar data?

Enviado desde mi iPhone

 El 22/6/2015, a las 14:53, Nicolas niko...@gmail.com escribió:
 
 Muy buenas,
 
 Estoy intentando crear un servidor de respaldos en ambientes hibridos,
 windows- linux, ese servidor por supuesto ejecuta debian-jessie.
 
 Desde mis otros servidores linux estoy haciendo el respaldo con rsync
 directo hacia ese nuevo servidor, el problema esta en los servidores
 windows.
 
 Mi pregunta es que herramienta es buena para hacer respaldos entre
 maquinas windows y linux, ya que rsync no existe en win.
 
 He visto bacula pero me parece un poco complicadillo, deja-dup pero
 creo que solo funciona en ambientes linux, y back of time que también
 es para linux.
 
 No conocerán por allí alguna herramienta intuitiva para hacer
 respaldos entre estos dos sistemas.
 
 Si es bacula he buscado paginas en ingles y en español y son o muy
 simples que dejan cosas por explicar o muy complicadas. Si me
 recomiendan este sistema me gustaría que me recomendaran también un
 buen howto de este sistema que nunca lo he usado.
 
 Gracias,
 Nicolás Disquin
 
 
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Re: Nova Desktop

2015-06-22 Thread Jose Martinez



On 06/22/2015 05:52 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2015-06-21, Jose Martinez jomartinez...@gmail.com wrote:


Yeah, that was my understanding as well.  However, with
desktopnova-module-gnome installed, it doesn't change the desktop
wallpaper.  Everything indicates that it is working, I get no errors.
When I start the daemon, it reports that it is started, and a ps command
verifies that it is indeed running.  But there is no effect.


Well, my understanding is there's more to it than just installing the
app and its corresponding module and starting up the daemon. Doesn't it
have to be configured (maybe you configgured that out)?


Yes, I did the configuration, and that didn't help.  Sven sent a post 
saying that there is an open bug for this issue, and that it doesn't 
work with Gnome 3.  The last post from the maintainer is about two years 
ago.  I think that I'll not worry about this issue, as it's not all that 
big of a deal.


Gracias, y que te vaya bien.

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Re: New Debian contributors

2015-06-22 Thread Paulo Henrique Santana
Olá Rafael,

- Mensagem original - 

 De: Rafael Pinheiro rafaelp...@gmail.com
 Para: Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.br
 Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 19 de junho de 2015 13:58:35
 Assunto: Re: New Debian contributors

 Saudações pessoal, lendo seus emails, surgiu uma curiosidade. Como posso
 fazer parte da comunidade Debian e contribuir com meu conhecimento? Já
 trabalho com administração de servidores GNU/linux há um tempo, mas só agora
 despertei a vontade de interagir com a comunidade e trocar experiências.

Em qual cidade você está?

Dá uma olhada nesses links:
http://deb.li/comecar
http://deb.li/hcihptbr

No FISL desse ano teremos uma mini-DebConf e algumas palestras sobre como 
colaborar com o projeto.
Se vc não puder ir no FISL, provavelmente as palestras serão transmitidas.
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/br/2015/MiniDebconfFISL#Palestras_no_audit.2BAPM-rio_.2810_de_julho.29

Abraços,

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Re: HTML5 i SVT

2015-06-22 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 21 juni 2015 19:26 skrev Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se:
 HTML5-spelaren fungerar i varje fall i Epiphany (Web i GNOME) den är
 väl baserad på WebKit.

Sa den fungerar i SvtPlay ?

Men det var kanske inte det du menade. FF fungerar ju med HTML5 i t.ex
i YouTube, och i JupiterBroadcasting.

 Annars fungerar ju alltid youtube-dl.

Jo, jag vet.. :)

 Jag dumpade Flash för ett bra tag sedan, och det är få gånger jag
 stöter på video som inte klarar HTML5 eller youtube-dl.

Svtplay ?

 Skönt att höra på att de satsar me på fria alternativ, men eftersom det
 är SVT så dröjer väl det inte länge innan de börjar med Encrypted Media
 Extensions.

Alltid hittar dom pa nagot.. :(

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread shawn wilson
Just tired of seeing the debate brought up along w/ any and every
systemd (and sometimes not even mildly related) issue. I wish there's
a debian-systemd list for everyone who still wants to have this debate
or see it improved / removed (and maybe there is and it should be
advertised better).

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:07 PM, chris tknch...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

 On Jun 22, 2015 7:24 PM, Zebediah C. McClure z...@ensistech.com wrote:

 On Monday 22 June 2015 18:30:56 shawn wilson wrote:
  On Jun 22, 2015 4:39 PM, Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote:
   On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:05:28PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org writes:
 People only complain about systemd being a cancer if they love
 the Debian system otherwise.
 [snip]
   The next time a systemd booster tells people to leave the
   community rather than try to fix Debian, please call them on
   that behavior and tell them you won't stand for it.
 
  You're being sarcastic - I'm not when I say I totally agree with this
  statement - use it or leave. Train has left the station on this.
 
  (I don't have strong opinions on systemd - I run Ubuntu and Gentoo at
  work
  and home and another few Debian boxes at home and the Gentoo boxes don't
  have systemd. But I don't care that y'all hate or love something and I
  doubt anyone else on this list does either)

 Thread jumping a bit here.  I subscribed to the list because I find
 systemd to
 be broken enough to warrant removal as the default init system.

 I wasn't here when the devs made the choice to put it in, I'm here now
 because
 it's hitting my machines.  I'm sure I'm not the first or last to say
 Systemd
 is broken, it shouldn't be default init.

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Iceweasel: GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed

2015-06-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
When I start Iceweasel it says:

(process:3437): GLib-CRITICAL **:
g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0'
failed

It don't know what it means, what it does, or how to
fix it (if needed).

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Re: Escritorio remoto Gnome

2015-06-22 Thread Carlos Zuniga
2015-06-22 17:11 GMT-05:00 Lic. Manuel Salgado manuelsalgado...@gmail.com:
 Saludos a todos:
 Alguien experimentado puede darme una mano sobre la via de conectar a
 un escritorio remoto cuyo gestor de sesiones X es gdm3 con su
 respectivo Gnome, mi duda va tanto como con Ubuntu o debian, en ambos
 me pasa lo mismo. Les ilustro lo que necesito y mi escenario: En mi PC
 tengo Ubuntu 14.04 MATE y necesito hacer conexiones a escritorios de
 servidores que estan en subredes que administro, los cuales tienen
 squeeze y otros Ubuntu 10.04. Lo que deseo es poder conectar a
 sesiones graficas de esos servidores al estilo como lo hacia en
 windows, independientemente del usuario que este logueado o incluso
 cuando no hay ningun usuario logueado, esta ultima manera me ha dado
 muchos dolores de cabeza. Siguiendo un tuto de Youtube he optado por
 la via de Xrdp en cada uno de esos servidores, y desde mi pc a traves
 de remmina establezco una conexion de tipo RDP, y el problema es que
 al configurar los datos (usuario, contraseña, etc) y conectar, lo hace
 pero no se muestra nada mas que una pantalla en negro. No hay
 problemas de filtrado de cortafuegos ni algo por el estilo, todos
 estos puestos estan abiertos.
 Gracias por adelantado cualquier ayuda.

Asumiendo que tienes razones válidas para correr un entorno gráfico en
un servidor (me suena más a problema X Y [0]), puedes usar las X sobre
ssh, solo activa X11Forwarding en el ssh del servidor y luego ingresa
por ssh con el flag -X. Aquí hay más información al respecto [1].

[0] http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
[1] http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/12772


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Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval

2015-06-22 Thread Jose Martinez
Say, maybe a tin-foil hat for the affected system could be designed to 
prevent this from happening?? :-D




On 06/22/2015 05:25 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:38:30PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:

On 06/21/2015 06:42 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Tim Beelen writes:

How do I find out which application is accessing what device?

It's all software.  There is no hardware involved at all: they use a
virtual device.  It works even when the computer is off.  Doesn't matter
if your machine has a microphone or even any audio input capability.

I would truly like to know how they could manage that. Back in the day, you
could make your floppy drive heave and grunt like it was in the throes of
passion, but to make a non-audio device turn into a passive listening
device?? While turned off?? Pull my other finger! cackles :) Ric

You reprogram the BIOS to upload new firmware to the hard drive. That
firmware reads the subtle variations in the magnetic patterns that the
sound waves have caused (that is, the sound waves jostle the data on
your hard drive. When the computer boots, the new firmware reads this,
recalculates what was said, and passes this to chrome).

/bunkum

To be serious to the OP, though, if you're running PulseAudio, run the
paman program to see what applications are recording and playing
audio. Alternatively, you could try a command such as:

  $ lsof /dev/snd/*

to see which applications are using the sound hardware. Note, though,
that this won't differentiate between what's playing sound and what's
recording sound.

As a last resort, consult the code for chromium.




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Re: HTML5 i SVT

2015-06-22 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 23 juni 2015 02:33 skrev Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com:
 ..och i JupiterBroadcasting

Utom i direktsandning, dar kravs fortfarande Flash.. Men
efterhandstittadet funkar det med HTML5.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread shawn wilson
On Jun 22, 2015 4:39 PM, Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:05:28PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
  Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org writes:
   People only complain about systemd being a cancer if they love
   the Debian system otherwise.
  [...]
   Remember that every time you tell people to go use something
   else, you are saying that they are not valued members of the
   community.
 
  I do indeed not consider people with toxic behaviour as valued members
  of the community.  Loving something is *not* an excuse for such
  behaviour.
 
  Short outbursts of temper I can understand, and I assume so can most
  others, but continued abuse over a long time is not something I think we
  should put up with. It's just damaging and drives other users and people
  who contribute away (and this has happened already over this specific
  behaviour).

 You're absolutely right.

 The next time a systemd booster tells people to leave the
 community rather than try to fix Debian, please call them on
 that behavior and tell them you won't stand for it.


You're being sarcastic - I'm not when I say I totally agree with this
statement - use it or leave. Train has left the station on this.

(I don't have strong opinions on systemd - I run Ubuntu and Gentoo at work
and home and another few Debian boxes at home and the Gentoo boxes don't
have systemd. But I don't care that y'all hate or love something and I
doubt anyone else on this list does either)


Balanceamento de link no Jessie

2015-06-22 Thread Gustavo S. L.
Boa noite. Escrevi um script para balancear dois links, na verdade um
teste, usando 3 vms com Debian Jessie. Quando rodo ele e confiro pelo
iptraf tudo certo, tráfego encaminhado para a interface correta de acordo
com a regra indicada. O problema é que depois de um tempo o balanceamento
parece não ter mais efeito e o que deveria sair por uma interface sai por
outra. Se alguem que já tenha feito algo parecido puder me ajudar a
identificar o problema (se está na configuração ou no roteamento, ou se
falta algo) eu ficaria muito grato.

Sei que o indicado é usar um pastebin, mas como acredito que a resposta ao
problema esteja no script vou postá-lo na íntegra para facilitar a
resposta. Desde já obrigado pela ajuda

OBS: a eth0 representa a rede interna, a eth1 represente o link1 (gvt por
exemplo), e a eth2 o link2 (copel por exemplo). Para o link 1 uso o gateway
da minha rede e para o link2 uso a própria máquina real.

Segue:


#!/bin/bash

# Configuração dos ips do servidor
echo Configurando variáveis das interface...
IF_LAN=eth0
IF_LINK1=eth1
IF_LINK2=eth2

echo Configurando variáveis da interface eth0...
IP_SERV_ETH0=192.168.0.1
BROAD_ETH0=192.168.0.255
MASK_ETH0=255.255.255.0
GW_LAN=10.0.0.1

echo Configurando variáveis da interface eth1 para link1...
IP_SERV_ETH1=10.0.0.100
BROAD_ETH1=10.0.255.255
MASK_ETH1=255.255.0.0
GW_LINK1=10.0.0.1

echo Configurando variáveis da interface eth2 para link2...
IP_SERV_ETH2=10.0.0.200
BROAD_ETH2=10.0.255.255
MASK_ETH2=255.255.0.0
GW_LINK2=10.0.0.4

# Identificação dos ips de clientes na rede
echo Configurando variáveis que apontam para clientes 1 e 2...
CLIENTE01=192.168.0.100
CLIENTE02=192.168.0.200

# Comandos para configuração dos ips
echo Realizando comandos para configuração de ips...
ifconfig $IF_LAN $IP_SERV_ETH0 broadcast $BROAD_ETH0 netmask $MASK_ETH0
ifconfig $IF_LINK1 $IP_SERV_ETH1 broadcast $BROAD_ETH1 netmask $MASK_ETH1
ifconfig $IF_LINK2 $IP_SERV_ETH2 broadcast $BROAD_ETH1 netmask $MASK_ETH2

echo Realizando comandos para configuração de rotas...
route add default gw $GW_LAN
ip route add default via $GW_LINK1 dev $IF_LINK1 table link1
ip route add default via $GW_LINK2 dev $IF_LINK2 table link2

# Liberando o Forward e Mascarando os ips para saída pelo Firewall
echo Realizando comandos para configuração de forward e mascaramento...
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $IF_LAN -j MASQUERADE
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $IF_LINK1 -j MASQUERADE
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $IF_LINK2 -j MASQUERADE

# Configurando marcação de pacotes
echo Configurando comandos para marcação de pacotes...
ip rule add fwmark 1 prio 20 table link1
ip rule add fwmark 2 prio 20 table link2

# Configurando roteamento dos pacotes via marcação
iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -s $CLIENTE01 -j MARK --set-mark 1
iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -s $CLIENTE02 -j MARK --set-mark 2



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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Zebediah C. McClure
On Monday 22 June 2015 18:30:56 shawn wilson wrote:
 On Jun 22, 2015 4:39 PM, Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:05:28PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
   Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org writes:
People only complain about systemd being a cancer if they love
the Debian system otherwise.
[snip]
  The next time a systemd booster tells people to leave the
  community rather than try to fix Debian, please call them on
  that behavior and tell them you won't stand for it.
 
 You're being sarcastic - I'm not when I say I totally agree with this
 statement - use it or leave. Train has left the station on this.
 
 (I don't have strong opinions on systemd - I run Ubuntu and Gentoo at work
 and home and another few Debian boxes at home and the Gentoo boxes don't
 have systemd. But I don't care that y'all hate or love something and I
 doubt anyone else on this list does either)

Thread jumping a bit here.  I subscribed to the list because I find systemd to 
be broken enough to warrant removal as the default init system.

I wasn't here when the devs made the choice to put it in, I'm here now because 
it's hitting my machines.  I'm sure I'm not the first or last to say Systemd 
is broken, it shouldn't be default init.

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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread chris
+1
On Jun 22, 2015 7:24 PM, Zebediah C. McClure z...@ensistech.com wrote:

 On Monday 22 June 2015 18:30:56 shawn wilson wrote:
  On Jun 22, 2015 4:39 PM, Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote:
   On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:05:28PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org writes:
 People only complain about systemd being a cancer if they love
 the Debian system otherwise.
 [snip]
   The next time a systemd booster tells people to leave the
   community rather than try to fix Debian, please call them on
   that behavior and tell them you won't stand for it.
 
  You're being sarcastic - I'm not when I say I totally agree with this
  statement - use it or leave. Train has left the station on this.
 
  (I don't have strong opinions on systemd - I run Ubuntu and Gentoo at
 work
  and home and another few Debian boxes at home and the Gentoo boxes don't
  have systemd. But I don't care that y'all hate or love something and I
  doubt anyone else on this list does either)

 Thread jumping a bit here.  I subscribed to the list because I find
 systemd to
 be broken enough to warrant removal as the default init system.

 I wasn't here when the devs made the choice to put it in, I'm here now
 because
 it's hitting my machines.  I'm sure I'm not the first or last to say
 Systemd
 is broken, it shouldn't be default init.

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Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval

2015-06-22 Thread David Baron
On Monday 22 June 2015 12:49:19 Stuart Longland wrote:
 On 22/06/15 12:38, Ric Moore wrote:
  On 06/21/2015 06:42 PM, John Hasler wrote:
  Tim Beelen writes:
  How do I find out which application is accessing what device?
  
  It's all software.  There is no hardware involved at all: they use a
  virtual device.  It works even when the computer is off.  Doesn't matter
  if your machine has a microphone or even any audio input capability.
  
  I would truly like to know how they could manage that.
 
 All it needs is a little sprinkling of paranoia to do its work. :-)

Just because I am paranoid, that does not mean they are not, in fact, after 
me.

However, this seems like a pretty thin hoax to me. On phones, however, this 
can and is being done.


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Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval

2015-06-22 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:38:30PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
 On 06/21/2015 06:42 PM, John Hasler wrote:
 Tim Beelen writes:
 How do I find out which application is accessing what device?
 
 It's all software.  There is no hardware involved at all: they use a
 virtual device.  It works even when the computer is off.  Doesn't matter
 if your machine has a microphone or even any audio input capability.
 
 I would truly like to know how they could manage that. Back in the day, you
 could make your floppy drive heave and grunt like it was in the throes of
 passion, but to make a non-audio device turn into a passive listening
 device?? While turned off?? Pull my other finger! cackles :) Ric

You reprogram the BIOS to upload new firmware to the hard drive. That
firmware reads the subtle variations in the magnetic patterns that the
sound waves have caused (that is, the sound waves jostle the data on
your hard drive. When the computer boots, the new firmware reads this,
recalculates what was said, and passes this to chrome).

/bunkum

To be serious to the OP, though, if you're running PulseAudio, run the
paman program to see what applications are recording and playing
audio. Alternatively, you could try a command such as:

 $ lsof /dev/snd/*

to see which applications are using the sound hardware. Note, though,
that this won't differentiate between what's playing sound and what's
recording sound.

As a last resort, consult the code for chromium.

 
 
 
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Re: Nova Desktop

2015-06-22 Thread Curt
On 2015-06-21, Jose Martinez jomartinez...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, that was my understanding as well.  However, with 
 desktopnova-module-gnome installed, it doesn't change the desktop 
 wallpaper.  Everything indicates that it is working, I get no errors.  
 When I start the daemon, it reports that it is started, and a ps command 
 verifies that it is indeed running.  But there is no effect.


Well, my understanding is there's more to it than just installing the
app and its corresponding module and starting up the daemon. Doesn't it
have to be configured (maybe you configgured that out)? 


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Re: [HS] Syn flood, comment s'en débarrasser ?

2015-06-22 Thread Philippe Gras

Le 20 juin 2015 à 22:00, Jean-Michel OLTRA jm.oltra.antis...@espinasse.net a 
écrit :

 Le samedi 20 juin 2015, Philippe Gras a écrit...
 
 
 
 Whouah ! Génial. Donc, je peux dropper tout le monde à l’exception de
 l’IP de mon serveur, de son IP locale (127.0.0.1) et de la plage IP
 sur laquelle mon FAI m’envoie ?
 
 Je ne comprends pas trop ce que tu veux dire. Mais :
 
 - Si le serveur sql et le serveur ouèbe (Nginx) sont sur la même
  machine, tu mets le bind-address de mysql sur 127.0.0.1, et tu donnes
  les grant de tes utilisateurs de tes sites ouèbe sur leUser@localhost.
  Et tu peux dropper tout le monde. Ce qui ne devrait même pas, en
  théorie, être nécessaire puisque l'accès n'est pas autorisé. Mais qui
  va soulager le serveur sql.
 
 

Avant:
===
Connexions Internet actives (serveurs et établies)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Adresse locale  Adresse distanteEtat
PID/Program name
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:17500   0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
12075/dropbox   
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:17600 0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
12075/dropbox   
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:17603 0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
12075/dropbox   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:53026 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:32338 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:45444 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:215   SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.226.11.137:24940 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:24263 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:31851 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:23060 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.213.175.247:64786SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.213.175.247:57477SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.226.11.137:45752 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:49368 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.226.11.137:62817 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.226.11.137:53576 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:58913 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:50822 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:14773 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.213.175.247:5103 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:14316 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:60768 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:5372  SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.226.11.137:63273 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:10811 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.226.11.137:62129 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.213.175.247:9430 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:23597 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:61150 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:39552 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.226.11.137:61192 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.226.11.137:58577 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:13750 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:44279 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:47996 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:37056 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:33076 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:47987 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   104.223.215.4:55933 SYN_RECV
-   
tcp0  0 x.xxx.xxx.xx:3306   91.213.175.247:23570SYN_RECV
-   
tcp  

Re: Machine Jessie ne s'arrête pas

2015-06-22 Thread honeyshell
Bonjour Sébastien,

As tu plus d'infos à fournir à partir de ton /var/log/messages?
Il doit surement contenir une erreur pour nous guider.

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Re: Nova Desktop

2015-06-22 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 16:27 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:
 Yeah, that was my understanding as well.  However, with 
 desktopnova-module-gnome installed, it doesn't change the desktop 
 wallpaper.  Everything indicates that it is working, I get no 
 errors.
[...]
 I am running Jessie and gnome on an old HP Pavilion d9000 with nvidia 


Doesn't work on GNOME, open bug with patch, but no action from the
maintainer for a couple of years:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=651313

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Re: Machine Jessie ne s'arrête pas

2015-06-22 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le lundi 22 juin 2015 à 13:21, honeyshell a écrit :
 As tu plus d'infos à fournir à partir de ton /var/log/messages?

Ben non, il n'y a rien d'intéressant au moment de ma dernière tentative échouée
d'extinction… Cette tentative était vendredi vers 17h50. Dans
/var/log/messages.1 j'ai des messages à 16h30 (donc sans rapport) puis :

autossh[3896]: received signal to exit (15)
rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd swVersion=8.4.2 x-pid=1279 
x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] exiting on signal 15.

Dans /var/log/syslog.1 pas grand-chose de plus intéressant :

autossh[3896]: received signal to exit (15)
hwclock[19330]: hwclock from util-linux 2.25.2
hwclock[19330]: Using the /dev interface to the clock.
hwclock[19330]: Last drift adjustment done at 1434641718 seconds after 1969
hwclock[19330]: Last calibration done at 1434641718 seconds after 1969
hwclock[19330]: Hardware clock is on UTC time
hwclock[19330]: Assuming hardware clock is kept in UTC time.
hwclock[19330]: Waiting for clock tick...
hwclock[19330]: ...got clock tick
hwclock[19330]: Time read from Hardware Clock: 2015/06/19 15:49:23
hwclock[19330]: Hw clock time : 2015/06/19 15:49:23 = 1434728963 seconds 
since 1969
hwclock[19330]: missed it - 1434728961.659161 is too far past 
1434728961.50 (0.159161  0.001000)
hwclock[19330]: 1434728962.50 is close enough to 1434728962.50 
(0.00  0.002000)
hwclock[19330]: Set RTC to 1434728962 (1434728961 + 1; refsystime = 
1434728961.00)
hwclock[19330]: Setting Hardware Clock to 15:49:22 = 1434728962 seconds 
since 1969
hwclock[19330]: ioctl(RTC_SET_TIME) was successful.
hwclock[19330]: Clock drifted -0.1 seconds in the past 87243 seconds in 
spite of a drift factor of -1.847204 seconds/day.
hwclock[19330]: Adjusting drift factor by -0.070171 seconds/day
systemd[3248]: Stopping Default.
systemd[3248]: Stopped target Default.
systemd[3248]: Stopping Basic System.
systemd[3248]: Stopped target Basic System.
systemd[3248]: Stopping Paths.
systemd[3248]: Stopped target Paths.
systemd[3248]: Stopping Timers.
systemd[3248]: Stopped target Timers.
systemd[3248]: Stopping Sockets.
systemd[3248]: Stopped target Sockets.
systemd[3248]: Starting Shutdown.
rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd swVersion=8.4.2 x-pid=1279 
x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] exiting on signal 15.

J'ai également tenté « journalctl --since=2015-06-18 » mais il ne m'affiche que
les logs depuis le dernier boot (ce matin donc)…

 Il doit surement contenir une erreur pour nous guider.

Oui, j'espère qu'on va la trouver ;-)

Sébastien

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Re: Systemd takes more that 1m 30sec to start firewall at boot

2015-06-22 Thread Johann Spies
On 19 June 2015 at 00:42, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:



 $ systemd-analyze critical-chain

 This will tell you what is taking a long time to start.




Thanks Ric.  This helps and confuses.

I get this:

└─shorewall.service @11.793s +1min 31.901s
└─network-online.target @11.793s
  └─network.target @11.793s
└─networking.service @4.239s +7.553s
  └─local-fs.target @4.239s
└─run-user-132.mount @1min 48.874s
  └─local-fs-pre.target @2.132s
└─systemd-remount-fs.service @2.033s +98ms
  └─keyboard-setup.service @1.374s +657ms
└─systemd-udevd.service @1.365s +9ms
  └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
@1.056s +307ms
└─kmod-static-nodes.service @970ms
+85ms
  └─system.slice @970ms
└─-.slice @970ms


How do I find out why run-user-132.mount takes 48.874s to finish?
Regards
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Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval

2015-06-22 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:36:50 +0300
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:

Hello David,

Just because I am paranoid, that does not mean they are not, in fact,
after me.

If they *are* after you, you're not paranoid.

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Re: Icedove fails to open mailto: links

2015-06-22 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Ralph Katz wrote on 06/20/2015 21:26:
 Jessie, xfce, iceweasel preferred browser, icedove preferred mail
 reader, Icedove fails to open mailto: links and iceweasel's Email Link
 with the following error:
 
 Icedove error message window, titled Close Icedove:
 Icedove is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
 window, you must first close the existing Icedove process, or restart
 your system.
 
 One instance of icedove is running.
 
 This problem began several years ago with a thunderbird upgrade, and
 it may come from an unknown legacy prefs setting or whatever that has
 me stumped.  I've since dropped thunderbird for the icedove version.
 
 Any suggestions for running this down?
 
 Thanks,
 Ralph
 
This happens sometimes. In that case an icedove process is still running without
GUI. Check with, e.g.,

$ pidof icedove

(if your are alone on your computer). If said command returns a process id, then
terminate it with

$ kill $(pidof icedove)

and to make sure

$ kill -9 $(pidof icedove)

Now, a new icedove session can be started.
By the way, same goes for iceweasel.
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Re: network configuration

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-21 11:52 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
 do I need to remove/purge NetworkManager Applet 0.9.10.0 to manually
  configure my interfaces?
 It is not necessary.  However I recommend doing so anyway.

 It is not necessary because NetworkManager and wicd ignore any
 interface with a configuration in /etc/network/interfaces.  They
 determine that there is no explicit configuration and then assume
 control of the interface.  If you create an explicit configuration
 they will not control it.

 However there is a little bit of a chicken-and-egg startup problem.
 Initially they will control the interface and there won't be an
 explicit configuration for it.  You need to shut them down before
 adding an explicit configuration.  Not doing this can cause problems
 where NM is *still* controlling it from before, along with the
 explicit configuration trying to control it.  Of course rebooting
 after setting up an explicit configuration should reset everything.

 I still recommend removing NetworkManager because I have too many
 times had NM break the network on upgrades.  Expecially when
 connecting to the system remotely with ssh that is unacceptable to
 have NM break the network connection to it.

 For a mobile device and graphical interactive control I use and
 recommend wicd.
Thanks for your recommendation. If what I want to do does not work, I
will install wicd instead.
  I'm using a laptop and want the wifi to go online, but the ethernet to stay
  on a different lan networks, actually two different networks. And I worry
  how to proceed with such a configuration. Ideas?
 This description is ambiguous.  Please say more?

 Bob
I have three separate networks, ip addresses, etc.
One wireless and two hard wired, ethernet.
The wireless must connect to the internet.
As is necessary, I will need to physically swap the ethernet cables
between networks.
And when I do this, hope to be connected to a respective network based
on my explicit rules.
I hope this can work. And I hope I have explained a bit more enough.
Are there rules I must follow to do this properly. As I've tried before
without success.
Thanks for your help.



Machine Jessie ne s'arrête pas

2015-06-22 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour,

J'ai un comportement qui me rappelle une discussion qui avait eu lieu ici :

https://lists.debian.org/5405c1f1.80...@nativobject.net

Quelques différences tout de même :
- je n'utilise pas KDE mais Fluxbox et j'éteins (enfin plutôt j'essaye) ma
  machine en appuyant sur le bouton d'alimentation qui est géré par les
  couches ACPI du système (il n'y a pas de fenêtre de déconnexion, quand on
  appuie sur le bouton ça lance l'extinction du système);
- je tombe aussi sur un écran noir mais aucun moyen de retourner sur une
  console (le moniteur se met même en veille);
- ça semble très dépendant de l'uptime du système, si je l'arrête dès
  l'ouverture de session, tout va bien, si je l'arrête en fin de journée, il
  reste bloqué;
- j'ai tenté « halt », « shutdown » et « systemctl shutdown », même
  comportement.

J'aimerais déjà identifier ce qui bloque. Comment récupérer les messages du
dernier arrêt du système (et éventuellement des précédents) ?

L'écran noir pourrait être lié au couple Xorg/nouveau car j'ai déjà tenté
d'arrêter le serveur X (arrêt du service LightDM) avant d'arrêter le système et
j'ai également abouti à un écran noir sans possibilité de passer sur une
console. Est-ce que ça évoque quelque chose à quelqu'un ?

Parmi les subtilités de mon système :

- j'ai une session tmux ouverte avec de nombreuses fenêtres qui semble
  introduire un délai dans l'extinction (dans les tests qui marchent -
  extinction dès l'ouverture de session donc - on voit Systemd attendre
  1min30 la fin des tâches liées à mon compte utilisateur);
- j'ai au moins un conteneur LXC avec un pont réseau (mais si j'arrête le
  conteneur avant de déclencher l'arrêt du système, le comportement est le
  même).

Toute piste sera la bienvenue (hormis celles consistant à désinstaller Systemd,
merci d'avance de vous abstenir).

Sébastien

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Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval

2015-06-22 Thread Riley Baird
   How do I find out which application is accessing what device?
   
   It's all software.  There is no hardware involved at all: they use a
   virtual device.  It works even when the computer is off.  Doesn't matter
   if your machine has a microphone or even any audio input capability.
   
   I would truly like to know how they could manage that.
  
  All it needs is a little sprinkling of paranoia to do its work. :-)
 
 Just because I am paranoid, that does not mean they are not, in fact, after 
 me.
 
 However, this seems like a pretty thin hoax to me. On phones, however, this 
 can and is being done.

True, but phones at least have audio input capability. :)


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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
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 chris tknch...@gmail.com writes:
 systemd is a cancer that you should completely eradicate
 especially on a system like that
 
 Please follow Debian's Code of Conduct[1] (or just basic manners)
 on Debian's mailing lists. Calling free software projects a
 cancer is not appropriate whether you like them or not.

If it quacks like a duck, it's a  duck, plain and simple.

I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a cancer, not
impossible to remove, but likely to mean the death of what it is
infecting.

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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-21 11:50 PM, sp113438 wrote:
 Hello,
 gmpc has a volume adjuster in the upper right corner. Independent of
 alsa.

 Do other music programs work?
I raised that volume and got no sound. No others work, including ario. I
like GMPC very much.

Thanks a lot.


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Re: [HS] Syn flood, comment s'en débarrasser ?

2015-06-22 Thread Philippe Gras

Le 21 juin 2015 à 16:18, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org a écrit :

 Philippe Gras a écrit :
 
 ça fait un mois environ que j'ai des trucs comme ça avec netstat -antp :
 ---
 tcp0  0 X.XXX.XXX.XX:3306   174.36.59.12:36852  SYN_RECV 
-   
 tcp0  0 X.XXX.XXX.XX:3306   174.36.59.12:53921  SYN_RECV 
-   
 tcp0  0 X.XXX.XXX.XX:3306   174.36.59.12:56058  SYN_RECV 
-   
 tcp0  0 X.XXX.XXX.XX:3306   174.36.59.12:16231  SYN_RECV 
-   
 tcp0  0 X.XXX.XXX.XX:3306   174.36.59.12:30945  SYN_RECV 
-   
 tcp0  0 X.XXX.XXX.XX:3306   186.2.161.165:1675  SYN_RECV 
-   
 tcp0  0 X.XXX.XXX.XX:3306   174.36.59.12:58255  SYN_RECV 
-   
 ---
 
 D'après ce que je comprends, la requête aboutit sur un port lambda
 et demande quelque chose sur celui de MySQL.
 
 Non. Les demandes de connexion TCP (SYN) sont en provenance d'un port
 distant quelconque (comme souvent) et à destination du port local 3306
 (mysql).
 
 Le service tourne sur un socket
 
 Cette phrase ne veut rien dire.
 
 il n'y a rien dans la colonne du PID.
 
 La connexion n'est pas encore établie, donc il n'y a pas lieu de
 l'associer à un processus.

Merci pour ces rectifications et précisions. Ça me permet de mieux comprendre
ce qui se passe :-)

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Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval

2015-06-22 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:14:23 +0100
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:36:50 +0300
 David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 Just because I am paranoid, that does not mean they are not, in fact,
 after me.
 
 If they *are* after you, you're not paranoid.
 

But maybe they are after you *because* you are paranoid :-)


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Konstantinos Pachnis
Hello,

I got a bit confused. Does ario works or not? Have you tried playing
an audio file with a different player?

Do you run mpd as a system service or under your account?
If you have modified your mpd configuration, would be really helpful to 
have a look at it.

If you start an audio mixer (alsamixer) do you see any controls for you 
sound card?

Cheers,


On 22-06-2015, notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-21 11:50 PM, sp113438 wrote:
  Hello,
  gmpc has a volume adjuster in the upper right corner. Independent of
  alsa.
 
  Do other music programs work?
 I raised that volume and got no sound. No others work, including ario. I
 like GMPC very much.
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 
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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-22 Thread Gary Dale

On 22/06/15 12:48 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:01:14 -0400
Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote:


On 21/06/15 08:08 PM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:33:50 -0400
Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote:


I'm not actually grasping some fundamental questions here.
1) where is your printer? I get the impression that it is attached to a
computer on the network and not your local machine.
2) what type of printer is it?
3) is your network otherwise working? Can you browse the Internet,
attach network shares, etc.?



1 it's on a USB port.  it _was_ on ethernet, but CUPS couldn't seem to connect 
to it properly.  i'm now thinking that maybe it could.

2 brother DCP-8110DN

3 yes, the  network is in good shape.  the only problem i am having which is 
yet to be resolved is that my loopback interface doesn't come up at boot time 
for some strange reason.


BRian

Did you download the driver from Brother? They don't have open drivers
so you probably need to get the correct ones from their web site. The
instructions are easy enough but you do need to follow them.



i really don't believe this is a driver issue anymore.

i can print a test page through the cups interface, so i know it's talking to 
the printer through the USB interface.

what i can't do is print a page through the client interface, i.e. from another 
computer on the network.



Brian

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't but unless you use the Brother drivers, 
you won't know.


If you can print locally but not remotely, that could also be a failure 
to share the printer.



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Change systemd to not be default in Stretch

2015-06-22 Thread Zebediah C. McClure
What is the correct way to work towards not having systemd be installed by 
default in stretch?

zmc


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