Re: How to rollback an upgrade in Debian
Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2015, 14:26:58 schrieb Erwan David: Rolling back is not easy. I suggest, to remove or comment out the entry in sources.list of debian/testing. Then start aptitude. Now mark all packages to the required versions to install and mark those with the wrong version to deinstall. You have to walk through all dependencies (also libs) and have to set the required dependencies manually. I admit, this is very annoying, but has to be done. Doing so, you might get a stable system again. Another way (but untested by me) is this: Remove the entry of debian/testing Do apt-get remove kde-* (This will deinstall most packages) Do apt-get remove `deborphan --guess-all` Do apt-get autoremove Then reinstall all kde packages and libs again. However, be warned!!! This might influence other applications and make a lot of trouble, so I suggest the other way I described above. Good luck! Hans Hi, Using testing, I see that KDE5 is (almost ?) complete in it. What would be the best way to prepare for a rollback after upgrade if I see that it does not work enough for me ?
Re: Grub not seeing my root did
Hi, On 12/08/15 03:46, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote: I just installed Debian on my MacBook Pro and now it cannot see my root to boot from. On the live CD and manually set the boot flag on the partition but still no go. Has anyone ran into this before? How did you install Debian? What version/... of Debian did you install? Be specific, opt for telling more than less if in doubt. What is the exact model of your laptop? Can you maybe give us hardware specification? Are you using SecureBoot? What boot loader are you using? If you use grub2(the default), where did you install grub2? Are there operation systems other than Debian installed to your laptop right now? Don't think people here are unhelpful, you asked for help without caring to disclose the information needed to do so. Please follow the guidelines of this mailing list when using it. To help you, assuming you didn't reinstall grub when booting from the install CD in rescue mode (I think that's what you did): You probably just need to run rescue mode chrooted into your installed root partation and run: (assuming /dev/sda is the disk you installed Debian to you want GRUB to take over the Master Boot Record of this disk (You want GRUB to manage booting).) # update-grub # grub-install /dev/sda Afterwards, reboot to hd and voilà. Ciao, Simon
Re: pptp-based vpn
tomas writes: To me, it's just a thinly veiled way of moving things to a flat-tax scheme, for the benefit of the rich (yes, I know about the official rationale) Don't you mean a head tax? Flat tax usually refers to a tax that is a fixed percentage of all income (or of all expenditures, which comes to the same thing). -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: WHAT???? Re: Externalisation hotline support technique SAV...
oui voilà merci Pierre ... On 12/08/2015 10:15, Pierre TOUZEAU wrote: le pigeon ne spammait pas la liste mais s'interrogeait sur le lien de désinscription qui précisait Debian list... Pas lieu de shooter comme ça... Pour info, c'est l'adresse de la liste (debian-user-french@lists.debian.org) qui est désinscrite de la liste de spam et non ton adresse (le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org) de la liste Debian... comme indiqué : Votre demande de désinscription de l'adresse (debian-user-french@lists.debian.org) a bien été enregistrée et sera prise en compte dans un délai de trois jours. Merci. Pierre Le 12/08/2015 08:24, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:35:08 +0200, le pigeonle.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org a écrit : Bonjour je reçois ce spam dans mes mails, je clic sur Pour ne plus faire partie de cette liste de diffusion suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 = vous êtes désinscrit de la débian-list... : http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 sérieux? bonjour, prière d'arrêter de roucouler et merci d'avancer ... slt bernard -- Pro. Signature Pierre Touzeau -- Chargé de mission/Préfecture de region Basse-Normandie SGAR/rue Daniel HUET/14038 CAEN CEDEX/Tel: +33 231 306 306 pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr / Fax: ... 564 --
Re: [hors-voyance] interfaces et environnements
Pour faire un résumé synthétique de l'état de l'art:
1. En console
a) Non voyants:
- speakup et speakup_soft (module noyau) peut la vocaliser, combiné à
speechd-up, speech-dispatcher, ou espeakup et espeak.
- speech-el: module Emacs qui vocalise Emacs et rend ainsi très
accessible la console (mode shell, éditeur, w3m, etc)
- edbrowse: oui concu pour les non voyants. Difficile à prendre en main
mais puissant.
- brltty: pour le braille
b) Malvoyants: plus limité mais pour les basses visions faibles, ca vaut
le coup de bidouiller console-setup, en choisissant la police Terminus
et en prenant une taille de caractère maximaliste. Voire de zoomer derrière.
2. Graphique
a) Lecteur d'écran: orca, relié à brltty pour sortir son travail en
braille; speech-dispatcher pour travailler en vocal. Lit gnome3 et MATE
sous Debian. Compatible en théorie avec toute appli GTK comme lxde,
xfce, etc. même si c'est théorique. E17, KDE, restent inaccessibles.
Côté vocal, espeak marche, mbrola aussi avec espeak, Pico (dans non-free).
b) Basse vision: soit Compiz (même s'il n'est pas encore uploadé dans
Debian, des paquets existent via knoppix et Hypra); loupe Gnome. Sachant
que MATE offre des choses combinablas aux outils de uoom, résolution,
couleurs, de X.
Emacspeak est obsolète et remplacé par speech-el.
Amitiés,
Le 12/08/2015 02:43, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit :
On 11. 08. 15 20:56, Alexandre ARNAUD wrote:
Bonsoir, je vais tenté d'être le plus exhaustif possible.
Le 08/08/2015 17:06, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit :
En fait, j'aurais du le préciser, ce qui m'intéressait, surtout,
c'est
le retour d'expérience d'une personne qui doit utiliser ces
« surcouches » palliatives : de savoir si elles sont
satisfaisantes; si
elles offrent un accès à toutes les composantes du système; si elles
permettent d'atteindre une vitesse d'appréhension de l'information
agréable… pour qq'un qui les utilise constamment.
Mon expérience est totalement unique et ne représente en rien
l'ensemble des bigleux du monde.[…]
Hé hé. Oui, c'est vrai que je pensais plus à « non- » qu'à « mal- ».
Ok ok.
[…]La console (les tty) ne sont pas accessible car limités en taille
d'écriture (pas assez gros pour moi, cf. dpkg-reconfigure
console-setup). En plus Emacs intègre des modes avec des coloris peu
contrasté (EWW est illisible à mes yeux). Cette inaccessibilité du
terminal est un problème car elle ne donne pas d'accès facile aux
tâches
d'administration système, ce qui fait que mon système sans GUI pour
lancer un terminal n'est accessible convenablement à ma vue. […]
du coup, pas plus de bidouillage dans le boot{manager,loader} que de
console/tty. Frustration !
Sans te faire offense (car j'imagine que tu connais déjà les solutions
disponibles), mais à toutes fins utiles, au point 3.1.1 du lien
ci-dessous, sont listés quelques lecteurs d'écran par synthèse vocale
qui fonctionnent en console :
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Accessibility-HOWTO/visual.html
Un abonné (je ne sais pas si il souhaite que je donne son nom, alors
chuuut) m'a également signalé en privé Edbrwose (http://edbrowse.org/).
Edbrowse est un éditeur/navigateur-web/client courrier en mode texte,
développé pour les non-voyants. J'imagine qu'il peut être utilisé avec
les programmes de synthèse vocale indiqués ci-dessus. Cet abonné en
en a réalisé la localisation en français.
Il m'a aussi signalé deux autres solutions en mode texte, avec
synthèse vocale, développées à partir d'Emacs :
* http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ (english only)
* http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd (en plusieurs langues)
… dans les 3 cas, des interfaces assez longues à prendre en main.
En tout cas, merci beaucoup pour le retour détaillé. Y'a du chemin à
faire, on dirait. Contrairement au « monde physique », le « monde
virtuel » peut se modeler… à un rythme soumis aux raisons du « monde
économique », je suppose. Si j'étais dev, j'essaierais bien des
prototypes d'interfaces sonores+tactiles en mettant l'accent sur la
notion de « découvrabilité »… mais je ne suis qu'un
hyper-hors-sujetiste ^^
Merci également à Jean-Philippe [et fertile vie à l'entreprise
Hypra.fr, de bonne facture Libriste… si je puis m'exprimer ainsi].
Instructive, l'explication du non-choix de Gnome3. C'est le genre de
choses auxquelles on ne pense pas forcément, quand est bien-voyant.
--
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
HYPRA, progressons ensemble
Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61
Mail: cont...@hypra.fr
Site Web: http://hypra.fr
Re: pptp-based vpn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 02:56:21PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 12 August 2015 14:04:37 marti...@suddenlink.net wrote: Now think, for a second how much money it costs to outfit a van [...] They have a much simpler solution. They barely bother with the vans (they exist, I believe, though I have never seen one). They see a house. They see an electoral register. They assume a television. They check for a licence. No licence? They assume criminality. And start bullying. Over here in Germany, they found a better solution: if you have a compuer and an Internet connection, you technically have a TV set. Since everyone has this, every household has to pay up (yes, they relaxed things to per-household, except for commercial entities, where it gets complicated). To me, it's just a thinly veiled way of moving things to a flat-tax scheme, for the benefit of the rich (yes, I know about the official rationale) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXLWS0ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kafkQCdGuoN26WCviuDOqFeoczFbbgv U3kAn1uhqE8w6z4K7gtHNoDEaatjeIkV =tJWP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: BIND9 sous squeeze
Le 16659ième jour après Epoch, thanh taduy écrivait: Bonjour Pascal, C'est exactement ce dont j'ai besoin : une zone qui peut passer la main à mon FAI si un sous domaine n'est pas déclarée. Votre idée m'intéresse. N'étant pas un expert du DNS, pourriez-vous m'en dire plus ? Pourriez-vous s'il vous plait me donner un exemple d'une zone locale ? Bonjour. À y regarder rapidement, je vois plusieurs solutions possible, et il y en a sûrement d'autres: 1) Créer sur le DNS local une entrée de type: prive NS tondnslocal.domaine.com. ou peut-être même simplement une entrée de type SOA sur le domaine 'prive.domaine.com', afin qu'il soit autoritaire sur la zone 'privé.domaine.com', et définir pour l'ensemble des machines du réseau local le résolveur comme étant tondnslocal.domaine.com Tes machines privées devront être nommées dans ce sous-domaine (par exemple machine1.prive.domaine.com). Insérer dans le DNS un forwarding vers les DNS du FAI afin qu'il passe la main sur les domaines dans lesquels il n'est pas autorité 2) Gérer entièrement en local le domaine 'domaine.com' et utiliser des vues pour différentier les réponses. Les requêtes externes au LAN ne répondront pas sur les machines 'prive1.domaine.com' par exemple. 3) S'en foutre complètement et insérer dans le DNS distant des entrées pour les machines privées en répondant par des adresses du LAN. De toute façon elles seront inaccessibles de l'extérieur si le LAN est du type adresses privées
Re: Migration vers GCC5 laborieuse
Le Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:33:02 +0200, C. Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net a écrit : Bonjour, Un petit point sur les grands travaux d'été debian... Tout d'abord, le passage à plasma 5 qui ne s'est fait dans la douleur, avec beaucoup de migration impromptue dans la testing de manière anarchique... et dont les effets de bord ne sont pas encore terminés. Ensuite un projet de grande ampleur, la migration vers gcc 5... Aujourd'hui, cela bloque pas mal de chose et il ne me semble pas possible d'avoir une installation utilisable avec tellement de paquetages bas niveau ne sont pas encore disponible... Y'a-t-il une solution pour effectuer cette migration ou bien faut-il simplement attendre que tous les mainteneurs de paquetage recompilent leurs applications ? Perso j'étais arrivé à une situation indémerdable avec SID et j'ai rétrogradé en testing avec succès : pinning 1001 pour testing et 100 pour SID + experimental mais je crois que je n'ai que Iceweasel dans ce cas. Ensuite je suis repassé en 900 pour testing. J'ai même pu réinstaller kde-full et Libreoffice.
Migration vers GCC5 laborieuse
Bonjour, Un petit point sur les grands travaux d'été debian... Tout d'abord, le passage à plasma 5 qui ne s'est fait dans la douleur, avec beaucoup de migration impromptue dans la testing de manière anarchique... et dont les effets de bord ne sont pas encore terminés. Ensuite un projet de grande ampleur, la migration vers gcc 5... Aujourd'hui, cela bloque pas mal de chose et il ne me semble pas possible d'avoir une installation utilisable avec tellement de paquetages bas niveau ne sont pas encore disponible... Y'a-t-il une solution pour effectuer cette migration ou bien faut-il simplement attendre que tous les mainteneurs de paquetage recompilent leurs applications ? ++ Mourad
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Re: Migration vers GCC5 laborieuse
Le mercredi 12 août 2015, 16:33:02 C. Mourad Jaber a écrit : Bonjour, ’jour, Un petit point sur les grands travaux d'été debian... Tout d'abord, le passage à plasma 5 qui ne s'est fait dans la douleur, avec beaucoup de migration impromptue dans la testing de manière anarchique... et dont les effets de bord ne sont pas encore terminés. Plasma 5 est Ok en Sid (’fin, ça l’était avant GCC 5, fallait mettre à jour au bon moment ;oP ). Ensuite un projet de grande ampleur, la migration vers gcc 5... Aujourd'hui, cela bloque pas mal de chose et il ne me semble pas possible d'avoir une installation utilisable avec tellement de paquetages bas niveau ne sont pas encore disponible... Y'a-t-il une solution pour effectuer cette migration ou bien faut-il simplement attendre que tous les mainteneurs de paquetage recompilent leurs applications ? En fait, il semblerait qu’il n’y a pas seulement besoin de recompiler (sinon je pense que ça se ferait un peu plus vite, avec des [BO]NMU ([binary-only] non-maintainer upload) p.ex.), il faut aussi adapter. Ça touche seulement le C++ (parce que l’ABI C++ a changé pour C++11). Il y a eu plusieurs messages précédant la migration : https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/07/msg0.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg0.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg2.html Donc, ouais, il faut attendre… -- Sylvain Sauvage
Re: Migration vers GCC5 laborieuse
Le 12/08/2015 17:09, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : Le mercredi 12 août 2015, 16:33:02 C. Mourad Jaber a écrit : Bonjour, ’jour, Un petit point sur les grands travaux d'été debian... Tout d'abord, le passage à plasma 5 qui ne s'est fait dans la douleur, avec beaucoup de migration impromptue dans la testing de manière anarchique... et dont les effets de bord ne sont pas encore terminés. Plasma 5 est Ok en Sid (’fin, ça l’était avant GCC 5, fallait mettre à jour au bon moment ;oP ). Oui, j'ai eu le bon réflexe quand trop de morceau de plasma 5 sont tombés en testing (avec la mise à jour de bluedevil et du network-manager en particulier) Ensuite un projet de grande ampleur, la migration vers gcc 5... Aujourd'hui, cela bloque pas mal de chose et il ne me semble pas possible d'avoir une installation utilisable avec tellement de paquetages bas niveau ne sont pas encore disponible... Y'a-t-il une solution pour effectuer cette migration ou bien faut-il simplement attendre que tous les mainteneurs de paquetage recompilent leurs applications ? En fait, il semblerait qu’il n’y a pas seulement besoin de recompiler (sinon je pense que ça se ferait un peu plus vite, avec des [BO]NMU ([binary-only] non-maintainer upload) p.ex.), il faut aussi adapter. Ça touche seulement le C++ (parce que l’ABI C++ a changé pour C++11). Il y a eu plusieurs messages précédant la migration : https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/07/msg0.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg0.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg2.html Donc, ouais, il faut attendre… C'est violent tout de même, une phase experimentale, même longue aurait peut-être été préférable... Parce que là ça bloque tout SID pour longtemps ! 3000 packages à vérifier/recompiler/tester manuellement, ça fait du boulot pour plusieurs mois... Mes 2 cents Mourad
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 16:53:44 -0400 Renan Arantes renanarantes...@gmail.com wrote: Sem ser o usuario logado no console tty7, como faço para executar um aplicativo X e tê-lo exibido em uma sessão X ex. tty7? Supondo que eu sou ou root, ou eu sou o mesmo usuário que conectado. Alguns exemplos de situações: Conectar por SSH e executar um programa que exibe na tela do computador remoto (o computador que eu me conectei, não encapsulado através de ssh -X abrindo no meu comptaudor) sei que da pra usar x11vnc, para acessar a sessão aberta no computador remoto, mas não é isso que eu quero, eu quero acessar por ssh e abrir um programa visual na sessão ja existente. estou usando Debian e Gnome Tenta, de dentro do ssh, por exemplo: DISPLAY=:0 xeyes Troca o :0 pelo valor de DISPLAY no computador remoto, provavelmente é :0 mesmo. E troca xeyes pelo programa que você quiser rodar. -- EMACS is my operating system; Linux is my device driver.
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
Olá! Qual a saída de env | grep XAUTHORITY? Tente forçar o XAUTHORITY para o arquivo auth do GDM, isto é, você verá o caminho do arquivo com ps ax|grep Xorg logo após -auth, então ficará algo assim: export DISPLAY=:0 export XAUTHORITY=/var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-9oxAy8/database xclock Tente também com export XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.Xauthority ou export XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.ICEauthority -- []'s Junior Polegato
Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: Hello Debian users I am currently a Debian Jessie XFCE user. I want to have your views on Gnome VS XFCE. I want to try Gnome but I want to know if Gnome is stable and works constantly without freezing and crashing. Please share me your experience with Debian Gnome. I haven't used either in years. I've never used GNOME 3. It won't fully run on any of my systems since none don't have 3D capability. So, it goes into fallback mode. Years ago, GNOME used to be a fairly lightweight desktop, compared to KDE anyway. Now, they are both resource hogs. XFCE is a lightweight, full-featured desktop. I chose it to run on an old Thinkpad 240x with Debian Sarge, then Etch. Worked well. No complaints. Today, I would choose LXDE. Even lighter. Just as good. But I left desktops behind a few years ago. I now just run a window manager (Openbox) and a single LXPanel with menu. Can't get much simpler. As far as stability, they all are. Never had a crash due to any Linux desktop. B
Opinion sobre Open-Xchange
Buenas tardes, Me gustaría saber su opinión sobre Open-Xchange. Saludos
RE: Opinion sobre Open-Xchange
Gracias odie, y lo usan con un solo dominio o multidominio? Saludos Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:08:05 -0300 Subject: Re: Opinion sobre Open-Xchange From: odd...@gmail.com CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org La verdad? Yo implemente OX hace ya 5 años y ni un problema, lo tenemos corriendo en una compañia de seguros, como en grupo Bago y funciona 10 puntos. Usamos dominio samba con ldap, lo usamos desde la version 5, pasamos por la 6 y ahora la 7 y estan todos muy conformes... Yo lo recomiendo 100% El ago. 12, 2015 7:55 PM, Memo Robles kinr_c...@hotmail.com escribió: Buenas tardes, Me gustaría saber su opinión sobre Open-Xchange. Saludos
Re: BIND9 sous squeeze
Pardon, vieille habitude de Répondre à tous :-(
Le 12 août 2015 21:06, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org a écrit :
(Inutile d'envoyer une copie privée, je suis abonné à la liste)
thanh.ta...@gmail.com a écrit :
C'est exactement ce dont j'ai besoin : une zone qui peut passer la main
à mon FAI si un sous domaine n'est pas déclarée.
Votre idée m'intéresse. N'étant pas un expert du DNS, pourriez-vous m'en
dire plus ?
Pourriez-vous s'il vous plait me donner un exemple d'une zone locale ?
Supposons le domaine principal example.com. Pour créer un zone pour un
sous-domaine privé private1.example.com, on fait une déclaration de zone
maître classique :
zone private1.example.com {
type master ;
file /path/to/private1.example.com.db ;
}
Exemple de contenu du fichier de zone /path/to/private1.example.com.db
(en fait le fichier de zone ne peut pas être générique puisque l'adresse
IP de l'enregistrement A est différente...) :
@ IN SOA ton.serveur.dns. ton.email. (
2015081200 ; serial (version)
6H ; refresh period (6 hours)
1H ; retry interval (1 hour)
2W ; expire time (2 weeks)
1H ; default ttl (1 hour)
)
IN NS ton.serveur.dns.
IN A 192.0.2.47 ; adresse de private1.example.com
Mais je me demande s'il ne serait pas possible de faire plus simple avec
un proxy DNS comme dnsmasq à la place de bind9.
L'exemple est bon, sauf que dans ce cas ci, j'aurais à faire autant de
fichier de zone que j'ai de sous domaine, n'est ce pas ?
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Est-ce un excuse pour justifier le top-posting et les lignes trop longues ?
Non, juste simplement que j'ai lu ta réponse dans les transports. C'est un
problème qui m'intéresse et que je souhaite connaitre la solution.
Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:07:47 -0400 (EDT), Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: Hello Debian users ?? I am currently a Debian Jessie XFCE user. I want to have your views on Gnome VS XFCE. I want to try Gnome but I want to know if Gnome is stable and works constantly without freezing and crashing. Please share me your experience with Debian Gnome. I used to use GNOME (GNOME 2) because it was the default desktop in Debian at that time, but I switched to XFCE when GNOME upgraded from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3. Not only is the GNOME 3 interface very different from GNOME 2, but on a number of my machines, GNOME 3 didn't even work. GNOME 3 requires 3D graphics acceleration features in the X driver, and not all video chipsets support 3D graphics acceleration. Even for chipsets that do support 3D graphics acceleration, there may not be an X driver which exploits the chip's 3D graphics acceleration capabilities, or the driver may not be installed because it is buggy or has security vulnerabilities. The machine I am using to compose this e-mail falls into that category. There is a 3D graphics acceleration driver for my chipset, but it is not installed for reasons of reliability and security. I switched to XFCE because it doesn't require 3D graphics acceleration, and I've been happy with it. Furthermore, it is designed to run applications written for the GNOME environment. The interface is similar to the GNOME 2 interface, which I am familiar with. I'll probably stick with XFCE until there is a compelling reason to change. That's my two cents worth. Take it with however many grains of salt you think it's worth. -- .''`. Stephen Powellzlinux...@wowway.com : :' : `. `'` `-
Re: pptp-based vpn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:06:49AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: tomas writes: To me, it's just a thinly veiled way of moving things to a flat-tax scheme, for the benefit of the rich (yes, I know about the official rationale) Don't you mean a head tax? Flat tax usually refers to a tax that is a fixed percentage of all income (or of all expenditures, which comes to the same thing). Yes, that's probably more correct. - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXLsRUACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYuCgCeJTFTkHLJcGoFz+ih+b//JIV7 ynYAnjJnhSvedj3aL6P5+e+1oUPqB7Ot =gVo4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: sorting mail residing in a local directory
Russell L. Harris writes: What is a reasonable approach to culling spam and junk from the downloaded mail? Spamassassin. Manually select representative ham and spam (as much as you can stand and/or have time for) and use that to train it. Then just let 'er rip on the whole thing (preferably on a machine that you won't need to use for anything else for a while). -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: Migration vers GCC5 laborieuse
Le 12/08/2015 21:22, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : [...] (Et Testing n’est pas beaucoup plus stable, les grosses migrations n’y sont pas beaucoup plus rapides, juste un peu moins risquées.) C'est uniquement pour ce dernier point que j'ai répondu, l'auteur faisant le reproche de l'instabilité dans la durée et du risque de non fonctionnement. -- Daniel
Re: Opinion sobre Open-Xchange
La verdad? Yo implemente OX hace ya 5 años y ni un problema, lo tenemos corriendo en una compañia de seguros, como en grupo Bago y funciona 10 puntos. Usamos dominio samba con ldap, lo usamos desde la version 5, pasamos por la 6 y ahora la 7 y estan todos muy conformes... Yo lo recomiendo 100% El ago. 12, 2015 7:55 PM, Memo Robles kinr_c...@hotmail.com escribió: Buenas tardes, Me gustaría saber su opinión sobre Open-Xchange. Saludos
Re: sorting mail residing in a local directory
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 09:42:04PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: After a multi-hour download, I have in a directory of the local machine roughly a gigabyte (1000 megabytes) of email. The mail is in Maildir format. Much of the mail is spam or junk. However, the mail includes some important emails, so searching and sorting is necessary. The local machine is running Debian Jessie with the xfce desktop, and Mutt is running. What is a reasonable approach to culling spam and junk from the downloaded mail? Use maildir-utils or mairix to index and search. Use any spam filter program to try to programmatically sort the chaff from the wheat. -dsr-
v ia32-libs-i386 on Wheezy
For a program that I want to install on my husband's computer, I need the following virtual package: v ia32-libs-i386 On my Wheezy computer it is installed, but it is not on my husband's Wheezy computer, and aptitude search can't find it. Here is his sources.list: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free deb http://mozilla.debian.net wheezy-backports iceweasel-release deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main Help! Thank you, Lisi
unmount mount point when exiting gnome3 desktop
Hello, I would like to automatically unmount a DavFS mount point /media/webdav) when a users logs off the gnome3 desktop on jessie. For that purpose I have added the following command to /etc/gdm3/PostSession/Default: /bin/umount /media/webdav But it looks like this script never gets executed when a user logs off as the partition is always mounted. Do I need to do anything else? Cheers John
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
On 12-08-2015 16:49, Renan Arantes wrote: Junior, o retorno do ps ax é o abaixo: root@none:~# ps ax | grep Xorg 2581 tty8 Ss+6:28 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-9oxAy8/database -nolisten tcp vt8 5379 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep Xorg no link que vc passou, tentei seguir as instruções, visto que sou meio ruim de inglês mas tentei seguir, o fiz o seguinte: root@none:~# vim /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf e adicionei [security] DisallowTCP=false no arquivo reinicei a sessão X e dei outro ps ax: root@none:~# ps ax | grep Xorg 5474 tty9 Ss+0:03 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-GTg3hI/database vt9 5616 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep Xorg root@none:~# export DISPLAY=:0 root@none:~# xcalc No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 root@none:~# o -nolisten sumiu mas ainda nao consegui executar. Olá! Se estiver com versão nova do Xorg, vai precisar aplicar o patch que coloquei no bugs.debian, mas deveria funcionar usando :0. Tente usando localhost:0, como usuário ou como root. Na tela logado com o usuário, abra um terminal e me passe a saída do comando xhost. Outra problema pode ser .Xauthority ou .ICEauthority corrompido(s), então apague esses arquivos dos diretórios do usuário, do root e do /tmp, reinicia a máquina (creio ser mais prático pra você), e então teste novamente. Depois de apagado os arquivos e reiniciado, qual a saída do xhost? -- []'s Junior Polegato
Re: v ia32-libs-i386 on Wheezy
On 08/13/2015 02:05 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: For a program that I want to install on my husband's computer, I need the following virtual package: v ia32-libs-i386 On my Wheezy computer it is installed, but it is not on my husband's Wheezy computer, and aptitude search can't find it. Did you add i386 as an architecture on that computer? The package ia32-libs-i386 is a package that is only built on i386 to support transitions from Squeeze or older to Wheezy-style multiarch (it's not part of Jessie anymore, because it's transitional) - and if you didn't activate i386 in your system, then it won't find the package. (And any package referenced by other packages are always shown as virtual packages by APT if they can't be found as real packages.) Simple way to add the architecture: dpkg --add-architecture i386 Alternatively, look at the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/arch, it should contain two lines in your case: amd64 i386 dpkg --add-architecture adds things to this file. Hope that helps. Christian signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: pptp-based vpn
Quoting John Hasler (jhas...@newsguy.com): David Wright writes: In the UK, tomas's tax would be called a poll tax.. Poll once meant head. Indeed. But in Britain, the term is politically overloaded, a touchstone of all that is bad (for a large proportion of the population). No headline writer would dream of writing Head Tax when they can scream Poll Tax. Poll tax is the idiomatic expression, that's all. Cheers, David.
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
Cara.. tenho pouca experiencia, e não sei se entendi muito bem sua solicitação, mas uma vez usei esse tutoria e funcionou! você está em um terminal win ou lnx? segue o link, do vivaolinux. http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Executando-aplicativos-de-interface-grafica-via-ssh-com-clientes-Linux-ou-Windows Em 12 de agosto de 2015 16:49, Renan Arantes renanarantes...@gmail.com escreveu: Junior, o retorno do ps ax é o abaixo: root@none:~# ps ax | grep Xorg 2581 tty8 Ss+6:28 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-9oxAy8/database -nolisten tcp vt8 5379 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep Xorg no link que vc passou, tentei seguir as instruções, visto que sou meio ruim de inglês mas tentei seguir, o fiz o seguinte: root@none:~# vim /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf e adicionei [security] DisallowTCP=false no arquivo reinicei a sessão X e dei outro ps ax: root@none:~# ps ax | grep Xorg 5474 tty9 Ss+0:03 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-GTg3hI/database vt9 5616 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep Xorg root@none:~# export DISPLAY=:0 root@none:~# xcalc No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 root@none:~# o -nolisten sumiu mas ainda nao consegui executar. obrigado pela atenção Att Renan On 12-08-2015 15:17, Linux - Junior Polegato wrote: On 12-08-2015 14:19, Renan Arantes wrote: veja eu tentei mas não deu certo, eu estou conectado via ssh tendo a como tty o pts/0 com o usuário sdgt, já existia uma sessão gráfica aberta do mesmo usuário em tty8, eu quero executar da minha conexão ssh um programa gráfico (por exemplo o xcalc) que ira ser aberto no monitor do sessão tty8. sdgt@(none):~$ w 13:13:53 up 1 day, 5:49, 2 users, load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT sdgt tty8 :0 Tue07 33:54m 6:13 0.14s x-session-manager sdgt pts/010.10.10.191 13:130.00s 0.48s 0.00s w sdgt@(none):~$ export DISPLAY=:0 sdgt@(none):~$ xclock No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 Olá! Possivelmente o X não está aceitando conexões locais no :0, verifique com ps ax|grep Xorg, e na linha que retornar vai ter :0, ou :1, ou :n, que pode ter ainda .y no final, no caso de ter mais de um monitor. Assim, tenha certeza que o :n[.y] que você está usando está correto e que você não está usando o -X ao executar o ssh. Outra forma é conexão direta ao X por TCP-IP, sem logar primeiramente via ssh, assim na mesma linha, se contiver -nolisten tcp, você precisa habilitar o xdm, gdm ou kdm para aceitar conexões tcp, e veja que nas versões mais atuais do X é obrigatório ter -listen tcp, senão não vai funcionar, acompanhe isso em [1], onde coloquei um receita de bolo para recompilar o gdm. Procure na net e leia um pouco mais sobre o assunto e faça seus testes. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=785495
sorting mail residing in a local directory
After a multi-hour download, I have in a directory of the local machine roughly a gigabyte (1000 megabytes) of email. The mail is in Maildir format. Much of the mail is spam or junk. However, the mail includes some important emails, so searching and sorting is necessary. The local machine is running Debian Jessie with the xfce desktop, and Mutt is running. What is a reasonable approach to culling spam and junk from the downloaded mail? RLH
I would love to see this error go away..
Hello, In testing I would love to see this error go away: KDEInit could not launch 'kpat': Could not open library '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat'. Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat: (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) Thank you, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma-Desktop 5.3.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
nao rolou root@none:~# who sdgt tty9 2015-08-12 15:40 (:0) root pts/02015-08-12 16:47 (10.6.0.191) root@none:~# ps aux | grep Xorg root 5474 0.0 2.1 55864 45476 tty9 Ss+ 15:40 0:03 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-GTg3hI/database vt9 root 5706 0.0 0.0 3316 800 pts/0S+ 16:49 0:00 grep Xorg root@none:~# DISPLAY=:0 xcalc [1] 5707 root@none:~# No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 [1]+ Fim da execução com status 1 DISPLAY=:0 xcalc root@none:~# On 12-08-2015 16:44, Cláudio E. Elicker wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 16:53:44 -0400 Renan Arantes renanarantes...@gmail.com wrote: Sem ser o usuario logado no console tty7, como faço para executar um aplicativo X e tê-lo exibido em uma sessão X ex. tty7? Supondo que eu sou ou root, ou eu sou o mesmo usuário que conectado. Alguns exemplos de situações: Conectar por SSH e executar um programa que exibe na tela do computador remoto (o computador que eu me conectei, não encapsulado através de ssh -X abrindo no meu comptaudor) sei que da pra usar x11vnc, para acessar a sessão aberta no computador remoto, mas não é isso que eu quero, eu quero acessar por ssh e abrir um programa visual na sessão ja existente. estou usando Debian e Gnome Tenta, de dentro do ssh, por exemplo: DISPLAY=:0 xeyes Troca o :0 pelo valor de DISPLAY no computador remoto, provavelmente é :0 mesmo. E troca xeyes pelo programa que você quiser rodar.
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:49:50 -0400 Renan Arantes renanarantes...@gmail.com wrote: nao rolou root@none:~# who sdgt tty9 2015-08-12 15:40 (:0) root pts/02015-08-12 16:47 (10.6.0.191) root@none:~# ps aux | grep Xorg root 5474 0.0 2.1 55864 45476 tty9 Ss+ 15:40 0:03 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-GTg3hI/database vt9 root 5706 0.0 0.0 3316 800 pts/0S+ 16:49 0:00 grep Xorg root@none:~# DISPLAY=:0 xcalc [1] 5707 root@none:~# No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 [1]+ Fim da execução com status 1 DISPLAY=:0 xcalc root@none:~# Loga no ssh como 'sdgt'. Como 'root' não vai rolar, pelo menos não de uma maneira simples. Ou então: su sdgt -c DISPLAY=:0 xcalc Agora como vai operar o xcalc remotamente não faço a mínima idéia... -- EMACS is my operating system; Linux is my device driver.
Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
On Thu 13 Aug 2015 at 00:07:47 +0400, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: I am currently a Debian Jessie XFCE user. Good to know. I want to have your views on Gnome VS XFCE. Views are two a penny. I want to try Gnome but I want to know if Gnome is stable and works constantly without freezing and crashing. Definitely it is. You have nothing to fear. Install.
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
Para funcionar o X remoto via ssh, instale os pacotes: xinit xauth e x11-xserver-utils E no arquivo sshd_config, descomente a entrada: X11Forwarding yes Funciona redondo. Em 12 de agosto de 2015 18:14, Linux - Junior Polegato li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu: Olá! Qual a saída de env | grep XAUTHORITY? Tente forçar o XAUTHORITY para o arquivo auth do GDM, isto é, você verá o caminho do arquivo com ps ax|grep Xorg logo após -auth, então ficará algo assim: export DISPLAY=:0 export XAUTHORITY=/var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-9oxAy8/database xclock Tente também com export XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.Xauthority ou export XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.ICEauthority -- []'s Junior Polegato -- *Atenciosamente,* *google.com/+BrunoLessa http://google.com/+BrunoLessa*
pulseaudio module to mute other sources?
I'm reasonably confident there must be a better place to post this than this newsgroup, so answers telling me where to look will be just as welcome as any that address the question! I'm a Debian user, so this is where I'm trying first Is there a pulseaudio module that will detect when an audio source isn't silent, and mute other sources in that cases? It may be more clear if I describe my particular desire use case. I have a ham radio, whose audio output I can plug into my sound card input. I'd like to be listening to music, but when a call comes in on the radio have it mute any other audio. Any thoughts?
Re: pptp-based vpn
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Wed 12 Aug 2015 at 16:57:33 +0100, Martin Smith wrote: On 12/08/2015 14:56, Lisi Reisz wrote: The care alone, even were there no societal cost, costs several orders of magnitude more money than the £145.50 cost of a TV licence. The trial alone, too, will have cost more than that! Then there is the cost of keeping her in prison. that is the problem, we have to punish sinners, we are after all obsessed opinion. I am led to believe it demonstrates our righteousness, but that is not my opinion. It's called upholding and enforcing the law of the country, not trangressing the will of some other entity. Incidentally. The tale you quoted and replied to is based on When she goes to prison for non-payment of her licence. This cannot happen. The maximum penalty is a fine. This may well be true. I'm not a lawyer: I don't know. However, the public perception is that you *can* be imprisoned and so it colours discussion of the licence fee. For example, here is a quotation by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, someone involved at the highest level with the licence fee problem: “It's actually worse than a poll tax because under the poll tax, if you were on a very low income you would get a considerable subsidy,” he said. “The BBC licence fee, there is no means-tested element whatsoever; it doesn't matter how poor you are, you pay £145.50 and go to prison if you don't pay it.” Cheers, David.
Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
On Wed, August 12, 2015 4:29 pm, Stephen Powell wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:07:47 -0400 (EDT), Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: ... I switched to XFCE because it doesn't require 3D graphics acceleration, and I've been happy with it. Furthermore, it is designed to run applications written for the GNOME environment. The interface is similar to the GNOME 2 interface, which I am familiar with. I'll probably stick with XFCE until there is a compelling reason to change. Familiarity breeds content (as in contentment). I started with Debian fifteen years ago, and have used a variety of desktops and window managers. Most recently, when I migrated from Squeeze (old-stable) to Jessie (testing) for daily work, I installed Wheezy (stable) on the machine I use for approx and for the weekly jigdo download of testing. I did not wish to spend time configuring xfce, so I chose the default gnome desktop. Stability never was an issue for that machine (amd64). But I generally accessed the machine via ssh, and then used screen. Now and then I sat at the machine and tried the gnome user interface, but I found the new gnome uncomfortable and inefficient. I need always-visible icons on panels, not a gauntlet of menus. In computing the challenge ought be to devise a good ways to utilize a set of tools to solve problems. But gnome-sans-panels is like a chest with many drawers, the primary challenge being to find the drawer which holds the particular tool needed. So, as soon as Jessie became stable, I installed Jessie on the machine; I chose the xfce desktop, and never considered installing gnome. For my needs, xfce provides everthing which gnome provided, and more (except for the pair of eyes, which I greatly miss). But as a matter of curiosity, has the gnome on Jessie changed significantly from new gnome on Wheezy? I suppose one can get used to almost anything; after all, I remember the single-button mouse of the Macintosh. RLH
Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
I had to use xfce on my old T43 although Mate would be closer to Gnome. Original Message From: Bret Busby Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2015 11:38 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ? On 13/08/2015, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:38:19 -0400 (EDT), Patrick Bartek wrote: I've never used GNOME 3. It won't fully run on any of my systems since none don't have 3D capability. So, it goes into fallback mode. I assume you meant to say none have 3D capability. When GNOME 3 first came out, it had a fallback mode for systems without 3D graphics acceleration capability. Fallback mode was essentially the GNOME 2 interface. I continued to use GNOME 3 in fallback mode for a while. Changing desktops is a lot of work, and I'm lazy. But eventually, GNOME 3 eliminated fallback mode. At that point, GNOME 3 became totally unusable for me. I have at least two systems without 3D graphics capability: one desktop and one laptop. I'm not sure about the others. Anyway, elimination of fallback mode from GNOME 3 forced the issue. I had to switch to something else. I did some research, and discovered that XFCE was a popular desktop with a GNOME2-like interface and was designed to accommodate applications written for GNOME. I thought it would be a relatively smooth transition for me. So I tried it. I've never looked back. XFCE is my standard desktop now. When doing new installs on new machines, I install XFCE as the desktop by selecting it as the desktop of choice in the Debian installer. If I were to start over from scratch today, I might try LXDE. But I'm happy with XFCE, and I see no compelling reason to change at this point. Maybe it would be worth having a look at ubuntu-mate.org, downloading the iso image, and running it as a live disk. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
convert jpeg to size suitable for printing the image on an A4 with lpr
I wrote this zsh wrapper to `convert' to do it.
With the 72 PPI resolution, the image get smaller!
With the 200 PPI resolution, the image gets bigger,
and it looks good when viewed with feh, but when
I print (with lpr) the increased-size image gets split
up in two parts on the paper with a black rectangular
box (?) showing up as well.
do-a4-pic () {
local pic=$1
local name=${pic:r}
local ext=${pic:e}
local new=${name}-a4.${ext}
local res=1654x2339 # 200 PPI; 595x842 for 72 PPI -
http://www.a4papersize.org
convert $pic \
-resize $res \
-gravity center \
-background white \
-extent $res \
$new
}
This is the image I try to print in A4 size:
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/bike/shimano-b.jpg
This image is the result of the above computation and
doesn't look good when printed:
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/bike/shimano-b-a4.jpg
--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
Re: pulseaudio module to mute other sources?
On Wed, August 12, 2015 9:46 pm, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Is there a pulseaudio module that will detect when an audio source isn't silent, and mute other sources in that cases? It does not directly address your need, but I think that pulseaudiovolumecontrol (pavucontrol) is almost essential, and really should be installed by default with the pulseaudio system. I'd like to be listening to music, but when a call comes in on the radio have it mute any other audio. In the realm of broadcasting and commercial sound, the function you are describing is of the general category ducking (as in duck your head so you do not bump it on the obstruction ahead). But ducking typically reduces the level of the primary audio stream, rather than completely muting it. You may find an inexpensive hardware solution; check broadcast suppliers such as Markertek, bswUSA, and FullCompass. Because dead air is anathema to a broadcaster, there are silence monitors which automatically switch to an alternate audio source if the primary source goes silent. One of these might serve your needs. Utility modules of this sort for audio are widely used and tend to be surprisingly inexpensive. RLH
Re: pptp-based vpn
David Wright writes: Indeed. But in Britain, the term is politically overloaded, a touchstone of all that is bad (for a large proportion of the population). No headline writer would dream of writing Head Tax when they can scream Poll Tax. Poll tax is the idiomatic expression, that's all. In the USA as well. Until poll taxes as a precondition for voting were ruled unconstitutional in the 1960s they were used in some Southern states to discourage blacks (and poor whites) from voting. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: WHAT???? Re: Externalisation hotline support technique SAV...
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le mercredi 12 août 2015 à 04:35, le pigeon le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org a écrit : Bonjour je reçois ce spam dans mes mails, je clic sur Pour ne plus faire partie de cette liste de diffusion suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c /zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 = vous êtes désinscrit de la débian-list... sérieux? Sinon, pour celui qui s'inquiète de son statut concernant son abonnement auprès de diverses listes de diffusion de Debian (dont debian-user- fre...@lists.debian.org), il lui suffit d'envoyer un courriel à majord...@lists.debian.org avec comme sujet - et contenu de message - which le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org. Après cela et au bout de je ne sais combien de minutes, il recevra un courriel (de la part de listmas...@lists.debian.org) dont son contenu énuméra toutes les listes de diffusion de Debian auxquelles il est effectivement abonné... Tout cela est indiqué à la page suivante : http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#subunsub Cordialement et à bientôt, Stéphane.
Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:38:19 -0400 (EDT), Patrick Bartek wrote: I've never used GNOME 3. It won't fully run on any of my systems since none don't have 3D capability. So, it goes into fallback mode. I assume you meant to say none have 3D capability. When GNOME 3 first came out, it had a fallback mode for systems without 3D graphics acceleration capability. Fallback mode was essentially the GNOME 2 interface. I continued to use GNOME 3 in fallback mode for a while. Changing desktops is a lot of work, and I'm lazy. But eventually, GNOME 3 eliminated fallback mode. At that point, GNOME 3 became totally unusable for me. I have at least two systems without 3D graphics capability: one desktop and one laptop. I'm not sure about the others. Anyway, elimination of fallback mode from GNOME 3 forced the issue. I had to switch to something else. I did some research, and discovered that XFCE was a popular desktop with a GNOME2-like interface and was designed to accommodate applications written for GNOME. I thought it would be a relatively smooth transition for me. So I tried it. I've never looked back. XFCE is my standard desktop now. When doing new installs on new machines, I install XFCE as the desktop by selecting it as the desktop of choice in the Debian installer. If I were to start over from scratch today, I might try LXDE. But I'm happy with XFCE, and I see no compelling reason to change at this point. -- .''`. Stephen Powellzlinux...@wowway.com : :' : `. `'` `-
Re: pptp-based vpn
For those in the UK, We in North America could occasionally receive BBC1 from transmitters across the British Aisles when Solar activity was high. The Band-1 transmissions were roughly between 41 and 45 MHZ. Audio was AM or amplitude modulation as well as was the video which was 405-lines and monochrome. We could receive the signals during Winter and only when it was daylight in both places. The Band-1 transmissions had been active from the 1930's until 1986 except for World War II when they were switched off to save money and remove a perfect beacon source for bombers to use for guidance. The radio frequencies between 41 and 45 MHZ are used in the Americas for emergency services and business two-way radio so when the video signal was strong, folks using two-way radios in that range had loads of whistles and buzzes to jam their transmissions. People in the UK who may have lived in weak signal areas probably saw lots of video disturbances from signals in the Americas so while the unusual reception was interesting for us radio enthusiasts, it really did none of the proper users any good at all. That's partly why the BBC discontinued those transmissions in 1986 and we in North America went digital in 2012. I listened to the sound of numerous transmitters in Britain and France which had a similar system on slightly different frequencies around 1970 and again around 1980-82 . I remember hearing some of our emergency services trying to talk over the video buzz and not doing too well. Sorry for the extremely off-topic post, but I thought some might find this interesting. Martin
Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
On 13/08/2015, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:38:19 -0400 (EDT), Patrick Bartek wrote: I've never used GNOME 3. It won't fully run on any of my systems since none don't have 3D capability. So, it goes into fallback mode. I assume you meant to say none have 3D capability. When GNOME 3 first came out, it had a fallback mode for systems without 3D graphics acceleration capability. Fallback mode was essentially the GNOME 2 interface. I continued to use GNOME 3 in fallback mode for a while. Changing desktops is a lot of work, and I'm lazy. But eventually, GNOME 3 eliminated fallback mode. At that point, GNOME 3 became totally unusable for me. I have at least two systems without 3D graphics capability: one desktop and one laptop. I'm not sure about the others. Anyway, elimination of fallback mode from GNOME 3 forced the issue. I had to switch to something else. I did some research, and discovered that XFCE was a popular desktop with a GNOME2-like interface and was designed to accommodate applications written for GNOME. I thought it would be a relatively smooth transition for me. So I tried it. I've never looked back. XFCE is my standard desktop now. When doing new installs on new machines, I install XFCE as the desktop by selecting it as the desktop of choice in the Debian installer. If I were to start over from scratch today, I might try LXDE. But I'm happy with XFCE, and I see no compelling reason to change at this point. Maybe it would be worth having a look at ubuntu-mate.org, downloading the iso image, and running it as a live disk. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
On 13/08/2015, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: I had to use xfce on my old T43 although Mate would be closer to Gnome. Original Message From: Bret Busby Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2015 11:38 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ? On 13/08/2015, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:38:19 -0400 (EDT), Patrick Bartek wrote: I've never used GNOME 3. It won't fully run on any of my systems since none don't have 3D capability. So, it goes into fallback mode. I assume you meant to say none have 3D capability. When GNOME 3 first came out, it had a fallback mode for systems without 3D graphics acceleration capability. Fallback mode was essentially the GNOME 2 interface. I continued to use GNOME 3 in fallback mode for a while. Changing desktops is a lot of work, and I'm lazy. But eventually, GNOME 3 eliminated fallback mode. At that point, GNOME 3 became totally unusable for me. I have at least two systems without 3D graphics capability: one desktop and one laptop. I'm not sure about the others. Anyway, elimination of fallback mode from GNOME 3 forced the issue. I had to switch to something else. I did some research, and discovered that XFCE was a popular desktop with a GNOME2-like interface and was designed to accommodate applications written for GNOME. I thought it would be a relatively smooth transition for me. So I tried it. I've never looked back. XFCE is my standard desktop now. When doing new installs on new machines, I install XFCE as the desktop by selecting it as the desktop of choice in the Debian installer. If I were to start over from scratch today, I might try LXDE. But I'm happy with XFCE, and I see no compelling reason to change at this point. Maybe it would be worth having a look at ubuntu-mate.org, downloading the iso image, and running it as a live disk. Since you have mentioned an old system, I should perhaps mention that apparently, Linux has abandoned support for Celeron CPU's, as, having installed ubuntu-mate 15.09 on my HP/Compaq NX5000 which has a Celeron CPU, and the associated and subsequent problems, I have found that the Celeron CPU's are apparently no longer supported by Linux, as the kernels are incompatible with the Celeron CPU - a non-PAE issue, apparently. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: Re: WHAT???? Re: Externalisation hotline support technique SAV...
le pigeon ne spammait pas la liste mais s'interrogeait sur le lien de désinscription qui précisait Debian list... Pas lieu de shooter comme ça... Pour info, c'est l'adresse de la liste (debian-user-french@lists.debian.org) qui est désinscrite de la liste de spam et non ton adresse (le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org) de la liste Debian... comme indiqué : Votre demande de désinscription de l'adresse (debian-user-french@lists.debian.org) a bien été enregistrée et sera prise en compte dans un délai de trois jours. Merci. Pierre Le 12/08/2015 08:24, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:35:08 +0200, le pigeon le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org a écrit : Bonjour je reçois ce spam dans mes mails, je clic sur Pour ne plus faire partie de cette liste de diffusion suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 = vous êtes désinscrit de la débian-list... : http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 sérieux? bonjour, prière d'arrêter de roucouler et merci d'avancer ... slt bernard -- Pro. Signature Pierre Touzeau -- Chargé de mission / Préfecture de region Basse-Normandie SGAR/rue Daniel HUET/14038 CAEN CEDEX/Tel: +33 231 306 306 pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr / Fax: ... 564 --
Re: no icons in iceweasel menus - jessie gnome
On Wednesday 12 August 2015 02:01:57 Juan R. de Silva wrote:
Sorry Lise,
I guess I'm not very careful reader. You are still on Wheezy. Then it is
even simpler. open gconf-editor and set menu-have-icons to 0 in
gnome.desktop.interface.
If it wasn't just mild sarcasm.
No, it wasn't. It was entirely serious. And thank you for your answer.
But in addition to still being on Wheezy, I use TDE not Gnome! But you have
given me some ideas about where to explore. I had hoped that the answer -
for both of us - lay inside Iceweeasel.
Lisi
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 22:46:47 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 11 August 2015 22:37:09 Juan R. de Silva wrote:
Everybody has those icons or nobody knows how to get them back? I
wonder...
If/when someone answers, could he/she include a recipe for getting rid
of these same icons? Wheezy, Iceweasel 39.0, TDE 3.5.13.2. Thank you!
I give it to you. :-)
First these is how I finally get them in:
% gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides
{'Gtk/ButtonImages': 0, 'Gtk/MenuImages': 1}
Correspondingly if you set the value of Gtk/MenuImages to 0 you should
get rid of them.
I just wonder how come you get them in Jessie and did not?
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Re: WHAT???? Re: Externalisation hotline support technique SAV...
Le Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:35:08 +0200, le pigeon le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org a écrit : Bonjour je reçois ce spam dans mes mails, je clic sur Pour ne plus faire partie de cette liste de diffusion suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 = vous êtes désinscrit de la débian-list... : http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 sérieux? bonjour, prière d'arrêter de roucouler et merci d'avancer ... slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150812082402.221b7ae7.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
busybox, bridge_tools, ifupdown : comportement bizarre lors de la configuration d'un bridge
Bonjour, je travaille actuellement sur une carte avec un linux embarqué dont la distribution est pétrie par yocto avec en tête de gondole busybox. Je souhaite configurer les deux interfaces IP de la cible en switch, soit en bridge. Une fois bridge_utils et les options qui vont bien dans le noyau ajoutés à la distrib, j'ai réussi à monter le bridge à la main en utilisant les commandes suivantes : ip link set up dev eth0 ip link set up dev eth1 brctl addbr br0 brctl addif br0 eth0 eth1 ip link set up dev br0 J'ai constaté que le ifupdown embraqué dans busybox ne semble pas reconnaitre les options de type bridge_xxx dans le fichier /etc/network/interfaces, donc la configuration minimale d'un bridge tel que je le fais dans une debian ne fonctionne pas : iface br0 inet static address 172.17.3.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 172.173.3.1 bridge_ports eth0 eth1 Pour contourner le problème, j'ai utilisé un script if-pre-up qui lance les commandes décrites précedenement si $IFACE vaut br0. L'enchaînement des commandes fonctionne bien et à la fin du boot ifconfig indique que l'interface est montée, Oh joie ! mais que de courte durée car le trafic ne passe pas d'une interface à l'autre ! En refaisant à la main le parcours je me suis rendu compte que si j'enchaîne les commandes de configuration dans un script, les communications ne traversent pas le switch... Mais si je commence la configuration en lançant les commandes une à une avec une attente entre elles (ne serait-ce que le temps de les taper avec deux doigts) le switch fonctionne correctement. Partant de ce constat, j'ai joué à l'automaticien de base en ajoutant des tempo... Ce qui donne le script suivant : ip link set up dev eth0 sleep 3 ip link set up dev eth1 sleep 3 brctl addbr br0 sleep 3 brctl addif br0 eth0 eth1 sleep 3 ip link set up dev br0 Je pense que cette solution est un contournement mais n'est pas la solution, cependant je n'arrive pas à identifier ce que j'ai raté dans la configuration. Une autre piste, je n'ai pas réussi à identifier la liste des options dans interfaces que reconnaît busybox, une recherche sur les sources de motif comme bridge_ n'a rien donné ce qui me conforte dans le fait que ces options ne sont pas gérées. Ai-je raté un truc ? Et comment faire pour avoir une version de ifupdown qui traite les commandes étendues dans /etc/network/interfaces comme sous debian ? Cordialement. -- Yann Cohen y...@ianco.org ianco -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1439374067.17505.30.ca...@ianco.org
Re: pptp-based vpn
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:04:37 -0500 marti...@suddenlink.net wrote: Several years ago, one of the United States television networks did a story on the British TV license and showed agents in a van driving around looking for the tell-tale weak radio signals from the local oscillators of television tuners and then counting and matching the number of such signals with the number of residents in houses to see if anybody had an un-licensed television. The story started in the early 20th century, when many designs of radio receiver cause significant radiation, particularly super-regenerative types. Poorly designed transmitters might also radiate on frequencies other than those intended. The Post Office were given the job of policing radio interference, and a licence was required for both transmitters and receivers to fund this activity. They had mobile equipment to track sources of interference. When the BBC began regular transmission (they were pretty much hobbyists before that), a decision was made to fund it from increased receiver licences. The Post Office still issued the licences, and passed on about 90% (in the 1970s, at least) to the BBC. The interference-tracking equipment could certainly spot a typical television receiver, though probably not a properly-designed radio receiver. As TV design improved, it became more difficult to detect the local oscillator, but the horizontal timebase radiated quite powerfully at low frequencies. In the 70s and 80s, if I needed an atomic frequency reference to adjust something, I would hang an oscilloscope probe over the front of a TV and compare the waveform with what I was working on. So it was until non-CRT television displays became widespread. The high-power timebase disappeared, and there was pretty much always standards conversion going on, with a frame or two of storage. Even when it was possible to detect screen emissions, they were not related to the transmitted signal, and there was therefore no evidence of use of a TV tuner. Early personal computers used the television standards as real computer monitors were enormously expensive, which also confused detection. Nobody believes in the existence of detector vans today, but they certainly existed once. As Lisi said, it is simply assumed that every pile of bricks everywhere contains at least one TV, and you are very nearly legally required to somehow prove the absence of one to avoid prosecution. -- Joe
Re: pptp-based vpn
On 12/08/2015 14:56, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 12 August 2015 14:04:37 marti...@suddenlink.net wrote: Now think, for a second how much money it costs to outfit a van with high-quality broad-spectrum radio receivers, a person to drive and another to tune and evaluate what he/she is receiving and whether or not it is from a TV tuner or Heaven knows what else. They have a much simpler solution. They barely bother with the vans (they exist, I believe, though I have never seen one). They see a house. They see an electoral register. They assume a television. They check for a licence. No licence? They assume criminality. And start bullying. I suffer from them, I haven't had a tv since 1971, and they can't let go, now if we displayed the same paranoia in our interactions with others around us accusing them of owing us money when they do not, the it is highly likely we wound get committed under the mental health act. If you insist that you haven't got a television, they do seem to make some sort of effort to check, because I have not been in prison. But they continue to bully you. After all, you might buy or be given one. If you buy it from a shop, the shop has to tell the authorities, but you might buy one on eBay or from a neighbour. And you underestimate the cost, both in money terms and to society. Let us take the clichéd typical non-licence buyer: a single mother on a very low income. When she goes to prison for non-payment of her licence, her children go into care. Those children are almost inevitably damaged by our so-called care system, and society then has, often monetarily expensive, problems for years to come. The care alone, even were there no societal cost, costs several orders of magnitude more money than the £145.50 cost of a TV licence. The trial alone, too, will have cost more than that! Then there is the cost of keeping her in prison. that is the problem, we have to punish sinners, we are after all obsessed with it I am led to believe it demonstrates our righteousness, but that is not my opinion. And will she pay her TV licence next year? Probably not, because she still will chose to feed her children if she hasn't got enough money for both. And when she looks for a job, when her youngest child starts school, she will have difficulty getting one because she has a criminal record. Lisi
Re: Debian jessie y Grub2
El Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:16:12 +, Ala de Dragón escribió: Corrijo el top-posting. El 11/8/15, Ala de Dragón aladedra...@gmail.com escribió: El 11/8/15, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Mira a ver si desde SuperGrub2Disk te permite iniciar los sistemas correctamente. Pues por eso escribo aqui por que ya he pasado por supergrub2 y boot repair. he purgado grub y reinstalado grub. A no ser que se quedara algo remanente en el sector de arranque, mbr o que se yo. sigue diciendome el mensaje de Arranque reparado con éxito. Ahora puede reiniciar el equipo. No olvide configurar su BIOS para arrancar en el disco sda (1000GB). Pero todo sigue igual. Hum... no se trata de reparar GRUB2 (ya que en ese caso estarías sobrescribiendo el GRUB original de Debian por el de SuperGrub2Disk y aunque no pase nada pues siempre es preferible mantener el del sistema operativo instalado) sino sencillamente de iniciar Debian desde SG2D, a ver qué te dice. Mediante la consola de emergencia de grub el directorio /boot/grub/i386-pc/ me aparece vacio, pero si monto la unidad lo puedo localizar y ver su contenido desde un live. Además del SG2D, otra cosa que puedes probar es a iniciar manualmente el sistema desde la consola de GRUB2. Es un procedimiento lioso y complicado (más aún en tu caso que tienes capas lógicas adicionales -mdadm y lvm- molestando) pero no imposible, eso sí, tienes que tener paciencia: How to use Grub2 to boot Linux manually http://forums.justlinux.com/showthread.php?152790-How-to-use-Grub2-to- boot-Linux-manually Tendrás que ir avanzando paso a paso, apuntando los errores que te vayan apareciendo e ir resolviéndolos, no te va a salir a la primera ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: busybox, bridge_tools, ifupdown : comportement bizarre lors de la configuration d'un bridge
Yann Cohen a écrit : J'ai constaté que le ifupdown embraqué dans busybox ne semble pas reconnaitre les options de type bridge_xxx dans le fichier /etc/network/interfaces, donc la configuration minimale d'un bridge tel que je le fais dans une debian ne fonctionne pas : iface br0 inet static address 172.17.3.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 172.173.3.1 bridge_ports eth0 eth1 A ma connaissance les options bridge_* ou bridge-* ne sont pas gérées directement par ifup/ifdown mais par des scripts placés dans /etc/network/if-* par le paquet bridge-utils. Pour l'autre problème, pas d'idée. mais que de courte durée car le trafic ne passe pas d'une interface à l'autre ! Vérifie l'état du pont dans les logs du noyau, notamment si les deux ports passent bien dans l'état forwarding.
Re: Debian anniversary on August 16th
Will there be anything going on in Stockholm for this ? On 8/11/15, Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.br wrote: Hi, Debian anniversary is coming on Sunday, August 16th. This year I can't attend, but I strongly encourage the list to join for some celebration. Beer and Debian are always good. Best Regards, Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro http://twitter.com/helioloureiro http://gplus.to/helioloureiro
Re: RAID 1 architecture Partition
Christophe a écrit : Le 08/08/2015 14:41, Clément Breuil a écrit : les partition md se nomme md0p1 pour / et md0p2 pour le swap J'ignorais qu'il pouvait y avoir des mdXpY ... Les ensembles RAID partitionnables existent depuis le noyau 2.6.28, soit un bout de temps. Mais cette fonctionnalité semble peu utilisée car LVM était déjà utilisé pour palier cette carence, et reste plus souple qu'un partitionnement classique. Ce genre de configuration peut se faire depuis l'installer debian ? Je ne pense pas car je n'ai jamais vu d'option pour créer une table de partition sur un ensemble RAID. Ou bien avec les outils en ligne de commande disponibles dans le shell de l'installateur (cfdisk, fdisk, parted).
How to rollback an upgrade in Debian
Hi, Using testing, I see that KDE5 is (almost ?) complete in it. What would be the best way to prepare for a rollback after upgrade if I see that it does not work well enough for me ?
Re: RAID 1 architecture Partition
Clément Breuil a écrit : Oui depuis l'installation debian c'est possible Création d'un raid multidisque puis 2 partitions dedans Comment as-tu procédé en détail ? J'ai essayé, mais je ne vois pas de moyen de créer des partitions dans un ensemble RAID fraîchement créé avec l'interface de l'installateur. Cette option n'est disponible que si l'ensemble RAID a déjà été partitionné avec un autre outil.
nfs / idmap mount problem
Hi! I've got a problem mounting NFS shares: after mounting the nfs directory (share) it is empty, and is owned by a rather strange UID 4294967294 (on the server, also on other clients). Mounting the same share on another box works quite well (dir is filled and owned by the correct uid). I suspect that is has something to do with idmap or nss/ldap however i've no idea how to debug this further as I do not get any error or warning messages in the console or syslog I already increased the verbosity to 5 idmap.conf. This however does not point out anything useful to me - you can see it in the following excerpt of my syslog. Setting the Domain = ... in idmap does not help, also explicitly enabling NEED_IDMAPD=yes in /etc/default/nfs-common. The server is running Debian 7.x the client v. 8.x Do you have suggestions how to solve this problem or at least how to debug it further? Cheers Sigmund -- root@vmlin0:/media# ls -lah total 16K drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4.0K Jul 22 20:50 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4.0K Jul 22 21:06 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Oct 25 2013 cdrom - cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Oct 25 2013 cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 4294967294 4294967294 4.0K Apr 9 2013 house_dir root@vmlin0:/media# mount | grep house nfs://house_dir on /media/house_dir type nfs4 (rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.6,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.2) root@vmlin0:/media# umount /media/house_dir root@vmlin0:/media# echo $? 0 root@vmlin0:/media# mount /media/house_dir root@vmlin0:/media# ls -lah total 16K drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4.0K Jul 22 20:50 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4.0K Jul 22 21:06 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Oct 25 2013 cdrom - cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Oct 25 2013 cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 4294967294 4294967294 4.0K Apr 9 2013 house_dir ### Syslog ### Aug 12 11:39:55 vmlin0 rpc.idmapd[1599]: New client: 9 Aug 12 11:39:55 vmlin0 rpc.idmapd[1599]: Stale client: 9 Aug 12 11:39:55 vmlin0 rpc.idmapd[1599]: #011- closed /run/rpc_pipefs/nfs/clnt9/idmap
live build
Hello, I am using live build and I don't need the package prism2-usb-firmware-installer and I would like to know how prevent this package to be installed. On the other hand this package requests a connection unresponsive, and lb buid can't to be completed. tia. -- Gerard ___ *** * Created with mutt 1.5.23 * * under Debian Linux JESSIE version 8.1 * * Registered Linux User #388243 * * https://Linuxcounter.net * *** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150812113129.GA4748@mauritiusGA
Re: BIND9 sous squeeze
Christophe a écrit : Ma question est, comment dois-je écrire mon fichier name.conf ainsi que mon fichier de zone de telle manière à ce que si quelqu'un du LAN essaie d'atteindre un serveur Privé, le DNS interne lui résolvera le nom en local, et si l'entrée n'est pas dans cette zone locale, le DNS transférera cette requête vers le DNS de mon FAI. Dans bind9, ca s'appelle des views . Les vues ou views, c'est fait pour qu'un serveur DNS autoritaire serve - par exemple - deux versions différentes d'une zone selon l'origine des requêtes. Mais dans le cas présent, sauf erreur d'interprétation de ma part, ce n'est pas ce qui est demandé. Si j'ai bien compris, le serveur DNS local ne doit faire autorité que pour les noms privés de la zone et récursif pour le reste de la zone, sans dupliquer la partie publique de la zone. A ma connaissance, ce n'est pas possible : un serveur fait autorité pour une zone entière ou pas du tout. Le seul moyen que je vois, c'est de créer une zone fille locale pour et de même nom que chaque nom privé. On peut utiliser le même fichier de zone générique pour toutes les zones filles, seul le nom de la zone changeant.
Re: pptp-based vpn
David Wright wrote: When I was a boy, the TV licence fee was taxed (called duty) by the government at 33%. This has been a very interesting discussion as I am one who believes that information and media should be unrestricted and priced reasonably or subsidized by advertising. Being from the United States, the idea of paying a media license fee is abhorrent so I wanted to find out what a country such as Canada does. In the United States, it is forbidden by law for the federal government to broadcast directly to Americans so all broadcasting is either commercial or community/public broadcasting such as from universities and other schools and some religious organizations. Canada has a model which is close to what could be done in Britain and I wouldn't be surprised if, at some future time, Britain changes their model. In Canada, there is both a vibrant commercial radio and television industry and the CBC which is the Canadian government's broadcasting arm. The money to run the CBC comes out of the federal budget and is not tied to individual taxpayers. Look up the topic of a Canadian TV license fee and it has come up and been roundly dismissed. Australia also has a duel system which apparently has worked over time. Several years ago, one of the United States television networks did a story on the British TV license and showed agents in a van driving around looking for the tell-tale weak radio signals from the local oscillators of television tuners and then counting and matching the number of such signals with the number of residents in houses to see if anybody had an un-licensed television. Sometimes, they found them and people got in to trouble. They then showed a message airing on British television urging people to pay the license fees and in the announcement, several men are in a jail cell asking each other what they are in for. Answers are such things as murder, robbery and having an un-licensed television. Now think, for a second how much money it costs to outfit a van with high-quality broad-spectrum radio receivers, a person to drive and another to tune and evaluate what he/she is receiving and whether or not it is from a TV tuner or Heaven knows what else. These days, there is a faint and not-so-faint electronic smog everywhere from computerized gear that emits signals from below the AM broadcast band well in to UHF. These signals are what is called incidental radiation so I am not speaking about things such as WiFi and other one and two-way radio communication. This is just radio frequency noise that is the result of microprocessors and other switching circuits doing their thing and emitting signals more or less by accident. All that aside, think of the money that the BBC spends administering and enforcing the system that they have created. The United States is not immune to this sort of self-harm, either. It goes on at all levels from local government up to federal agencies. We have a problem so we must do this and that to make sure everybody pays. Oh my, they're getting around paying by doing X, Y, or Z, so we must make it illegal to--- and it goes on and on. It reminds me of a quote reportedly from Albert Einstein that says, Clever people solve problems. Wise people avoid problems. As a newly-retired IT person, I am alarmed at the faction that just says no versus those who say, Maybe we can work something out. That is much more positive and makes fewer people in to criminals. Martin
[OFFTOPIC] Re: pptp-based vpn
All that aside, think of the money that the BBC spends administering and enforcing the system that they have created. Indeed. For that same reason public transit systems should be paid out of the normal government budget rather than being tied to individual users (which can also be described as should be free). Stefan
Re: RAID 1 architecture Partition
Le mercredi 12 août 2015, 14:36:53 Pascal Hambourg a écrit : […] Comment as-tu procédé en détail ? J'ai essayé, mais je ne vois pas de moyen de créer des partitions dans un ensemble RAID fraîchement créé avec l'interface de l'installateur. Et si tu crées ton RAID à partir des disques (/dev/sdX) et non à partir de partitions (/dev/sdX1) ? -- Sylvain Sauvage
Re: pptp-based vpn
Le quintidi 25 thermidor, an CCXXIII, marti...@suddenlink.net a écrit : All that aside, think of the money that the BBC spends administering and enforcing the system that they have created. The United States is not immune to this sort of self-harm, either. It goes on at all levels from local government up to federal agencies. Do not forget the private sector in this inventory: think on how many millions of zorkmids are wasted developing non-working DRM schemes, and how many thousands of potentially happy paying customers these DRM are driving away towards other means of distribution. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: pptp-based vpn
On Wednesday 12 August 2015 14:04:37 marti...@suddenlink.net wrote: Now think, for a second how much money it costs to outfit a van with high-quality broad-spectrum radio receivers, a person to drive and another to tune and evaluate what he/she is receiving and whether or not it is from a TV tuner or Heaven knows what else. They have a much simpler solution. They barely bother with the vans (they exist, I believe, though I have never seen one). They see a house. They see an electoral register. They assume a television. They check for a licence. No licence? They assume criminality. And start bullying. If you insist that you haven't got a television, they do seem to make some sort of effort to check, because I have not been in prison. But they continue to bully you. After all, you might buy or be given one. If you buy it from a shop, the shop has to tell the authorities, but you might buy one on eBay or from a neighbour. And you underestimate the cost, both in money terms and to society. Let us take the clichéd typical non-licence buyer: a single mother on a very low income. When she goes to prison for non-payment of her licence, her children go into care. Those children are almost inevitably damaged by our so-called care system, and society then has, often monetarily expensive, problems for years to come. The care alone, even were there no societal cost, costs several orders of magnitude more money than the £145.50 cost of a TV licence. The trial alone, too, will have cost more than that! Then there is the cost of keeping her in prison. And will she pay her TV licence next year? Probably not, because she still will chose to feed her children if she hasn't got enough money for both. And when she looks for a job, when her youngest child starts school, she will have difficulty getting one because she has a criminal record. Lisi
Re: BIND9 sous squeeze
Bonjour Pascal, C'est exactement ce dont j'ai besoin : une zone qui peut passer la main à mon FAI si un sous domaine n'est pas déclarée. Votre idée m'intéresse. N'étant pas un expert du DNS, pourriez-vous m'en dire plus ? Pourriez-vous s'il vous plait me donner un exemple d'une zone locale ? Je vous remercie de votre aide, Bien à vous Thanh Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 12 août 2015 à 13:54, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org a écrit : Christophe a écrit : Ma question est, comment dois-je écrire mon fichier name.conf ainsi que mon fichier de zone de telle manière à ce que si quelqu'un du LAN essaie d'atteindre un serveur Privé, le DNS interne lui résolvera le nom en local, et si l'entrée n'est pas dans cette zone locale, le DNS transférera cette requête vers le DNS de mon FAI. Dans bind9, ca s'appelle des views . Les vues ou views, c'est fait pour qu'un serveur DNS autoritaire serve - par exemple - deux versions différentes d'une zone selon l'origine des requêtes. Mais dans le cas présent, sauf erreur d'interprétation de ma part, ce n'est pas ce qui est demandé. Si j'ai bien compris, le serveur DNS local ne doit faire autorité que pour les noms privés de la zone et récursif pour le reste de la zone, sans dupliquer la partie publique de la zone. A ma connaissance, ce n'est pas possible : un serveur fait autorité pour une zone entière ou pas du tout. Le seul moyen que je vois, c'est de créer une zone fille locale pour et de même nom que chaque nom privé. On peut utiliser le même fichier de zone générique pour toutes les zones filles, seul le nom de la zone changeant.
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
On 12-08-2015 14:19, Renan Arantes wrote: veja eu tentei mas não deu certo, eu estou conectado via ssh tendo a como tty o pts/0 com o usuário sdgt, já existia uma sessão gráfica aberta do mesmo usuário em tty8, eu quero executar da minha conexão ssh um programa gráfico (por exemplo o xcalc) que ira ser aberto no monitor do sessão tty8. sdgt@(none):~$ w 13:13:53 up 1 day, 5:49, 2 users, load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT sdgt tty8 :0 Tue07 33:54m 6:13 0.14s x-session-manager sdgt pts/010.10.10.191 13:130.00s 0.48s 0.00s w sdgt@(none):~$ export DISPLAY=:0 sdgt@(none):~$ xclock No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 Olá! Possivelmente o X não está aceitando conexões locais no :0, verifique com ps ax|grep Xorg, e na linha que retornar vai ter :0, ou :1, ou :n, que pode ter ainda .y no final, no caso de ter mais de um monitor. Assim, tenha certeza que o :n[.y] que você está usando está correto e que você não está usando o -X ao executar o ssh. Outra forma é conexão direta ao X por TCP-IP, sem logar primeiramente via ssh, assim na mesma linha, se contiver -nolisten tcp, você precisa habilitar o xdm, gdm ou kdm para aceitar conexões tcp, e veja que nas versões mais atuais do X é obrigatório ter -listen tcp, senão não vai funcionar, acompanhe isso em [1], onde coloquei um receita de bolo para recompilar o gdm. Procure na net e leia um pouco mais sobre o assunto e faça seus testes. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=785495 -- []'s Junior Polegato
Re: Migration vers GCC5 laborieuse
Le mercredi 12 août 2015, 19:23:17 daniel huhardeaux a écrit : […] Rester en testing est la solution si l'on veut les dernières versions sans les ennuis possibles d'unstable. Ou le pinning comme proposé préalablement. Mais Sid a des mises à jour de sécurité plus rapides. (Et Testing n’est pas beaucoup plus stable, les grosses migrations n’y sont pas beaucoup plus rapides, juste un peu moins risquées.) -- Sylvain Sauvage
Re: BIND9 sous squeeze
(Inutile d'envoyer une copie privée, je suis abonné à la liste)
thanh.ta...@gmail.com a écrit :
C'est exactement ce dont j'ai besoin : une zone qui peut passer la main à mon
FAI si un sous domaine n'est pas déclarée.
Votre idée m'intéresse. N'étant pas un expert du DNS, pourriez-vous m'en dire
plus ?
Pourriez-vous s'il vous plait me donner un exemple d'une zone locale ?
Supposons le domaine principal example.com. Pour créer un zone pour un
sous-domaine privé private1.example.com, on fait une déclaration de zone
maître classique :
zone private1.example.com {
type master ;
file /path/to/private1.example.com.db ;
}
Exemple de contenu du fichier de zone /path/to/private1.example.com.db
(en fait le fichier de zone ne peut pas être générique puisque l'adresse
IP de l'enregistrement A est différente...) :
@ IN SOA ton.serveur.dns. ton.email. (
2015081200 ; serial (version)
6H ; refresh period (6 hours)
1H ; retry interval (1 hour)
2W ; expire time (2 weeks)
1H ; default ttl (1 hour)
)
IN NS ton.serveur.dns.
IN A 192.0.2.47 ; adresse de private1.example.com
Mais je me demande s'il ne serait pas possible de faire plus simple avec
un proxy DNS comme dnsmasq à la place de bind9.
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Est-ce un excuse pour justifier le top-posting et les lignes trop longues ?
Re: Migration vers GCC5 laborieuse
Le 12/08/2015 17:38, C. Mourad Jaber a écrit : [...] Donc, ouais, il faut attendre… C'est violent tout de même, une phase experimentale, même longue aurait peut-être été préférable... Parce que là ça bloque tout SID pour longtemps ! [...] L'essence même de SID est unstable ! On sait donc à quoi s'attendre ;-) Rester en testing est la solution si l'on veut les dernières versions sans les ennuis possibles d'unstable. Ou le pinning comme proposé préalablement. -- Daniel
Re: pptp-based vpn
On Wed 12 Aug 2015 at 16:57:33 +0100, Martin Smith wrote: On 12/08/2015 14:56, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 12 August 2015 14:04:37 marti...@suddenlink.net wrote: Now think, for a second how much money it costs to outfit a van with high-quality broad-spectrum radio receivers, a person to drive and another to tune and evaluate what he/she is receiving and whether or not it is from a TV tuner or Heaven knows what else. They have a much simpler solution. They barely bother with the vans (they exist, I believe, though I have never seen one). They see a house. They see an electoral register. They assume a television. They check for a licence. No licence? They assume criminality. And start bullying. I suffer from them, I haven't had a tv since 1971, and they can't let go, Unless you have typed and sent your mail from a friend's computer, you do. [Snip] The care alone, even were there no societal cost, costs several orders of magnitude more money than the £145.50 cost of a TV licence. The trial alone, too, will have cost more than that! Then there is the cost of keeping her in prison. that is the problem, we have to punish sinners, we are after all obsessed opinion. I am led to believe it demonstrates our righteousness, but that is not my opinion. It's called upholding and enforcing the law of the country, not trangressing the will of some other entity. Incidentally. The tale you quoted and replied to is based on When she goes to prison for non-payment of her licence. This cannot happen. The maximum penalty is a fine.
Re: pptp-based vpn
Quoting doug (dmcgarr...@optonline.net): I'm curious. Do you have to pay that sum for each TV receiver, or is it a balnket license per house? Also there is a reference to a computer--does a computer count as a TV? I assume that the license is renewed annually? The horse's mouth is at http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/ Cheers, David.
Re: [hors-voyance] interfaces et environnements
(Mon dernier message sur le [Hors-voyance], et après je vous épargne
mes surcharges HS sur la liste, en tout cas jusqu'au 21 !)
On 12. 08. 15 09:08, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
[...] résumé synthétique de l'état de l'art[...]
Pour un futuriste état de l'art, si cette idée avait quelque valeur,
qu'elle chemine -- ou émerge -- jusqu'à {son,sa} accomplisseu{r,se}.
Ainsi soit-il :
Difficile d'imaginer ce qui pourrait offrir autant d'avantages que la
vision humaine -- en particulier la capacité qu'elle offre de percevoir
précisément, à différentes portées et de manière globale, les éléments
statiques et mobiles de l'environnement. Pourtant, il y a des espèces
qui se servent de sonars, en milieu partiellement ou totalement obscur,
pour le même effet… et ils ne s'en démerdent pas si mal !
Voilà. À dans une semaine et demie.
Re: pptp-based vpn
On 08/12/2015 01:23 PM, Brian wrote: /snip/ I suffer from them, I haven't had a tv since 1971, and they can't let go, Unless you have typed and sent your mail from a friend's computer, you do. [Snip] The care alone, even were there no societal cost, costs several orders of magnitude more money than the £145.50 cost of a TV licence. The trial alone, too, will have cost more than that! Then there is the cost of keeping her in prison. /snip/ I'm curious. Do you have to pay that sum for each TV receiver, or is it a balnket license per house? Also there is a reference to a computer--does a computer count as a TV? I assume that the license is renewed annually? --doug in free-TV America Incidentally. The tale you quoted and replied to is based on When she goes to prison for non-payment of her licence. This cannot happen. The maximum penalty is a fine.
Re: pptp-based vpn
Quoting John Hasler (jhas...@newsguy.com): tomas writes: To me, it's just a thinly veiled way of moving things to a flat-tax scheme, for the benefit of the rich (yes, I know about the official rationale) Don't you mean a head tax? Flat tax usually refers to a tax that is a fixed percentage of all income (or of all expenditures, which comes to the same thing). In the UK, tomas's tax would be called a poll tax, and the replacement of residential rates (on houses) by a poll tax (on people) caused riots in the 1990s before the rates came back in a different guise. In effect, that so-called poll tax *was* a poll tax because one way people avoided it was by not putting themselves on the Electoral Register, so losing their vote. Cheers, David.
Re: nfs / idmap mount problem
I've got a problem mounting NFS shares: after mounting the nfs directory (share) it is empty, and is owned by a rather strange UID 4294967294 (on the server, also on other clients). ^^ Ups typo. I meant the UID of the folder (and the content) is OK on the server as well as on the other clients. Cheers, Sigmund
Re: pptp-based vpn
David Wright writes: In the UK, tomas's tax would be called a poll tax.. Poll once meant head. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: Como executar um programa X de fora da sessão X (por exemplo, a partir do console ou SSH)
Junior, o retorno do ps ax é o abaixo: root@none:~# ps ax | grep Xorg 2581 tty8 Ss+6:28 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-9oxAy8/database -nolisten tcp vt8 5379 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep Xorg no link que vc passou, tentei seguir as instruções, visto que sou meio ruim de inglês mas tentei seguir, o fiz o seguinte: root@none:~# vim /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf e adicionei [security] DisallowTCP=false no arquivo reinicei a sessão X e dei outro ps ax: root@none:~# ps ax | grep Xorg 5474 tty9 Ss+0:03 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-GTg3hI/database vt9 5616 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep Xorg root@none:~# export DISPLAY=:0 root@none:~# xcalc No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 root@none:~# o -nolisten sumiu mas ainda nao consegui executar. obrigado pela atenção Att Renan On 12-08-2015 15:17, Linux - Junior Polegato wrote: On 12-08-2015 14:19, Renan Arantes wrote: veja eu tentei mas não deu certo, eu estou conectado via ssh tendo a como tty o pts/0 com o usuário sdgt, já existia uma sessão gráfica aberta do mesmo usuário em tty8, eu quero executar da minha conexão ssh um programa gráfico (por exemplo o xcalc) que ira ser aberto no monitor do sessão tty8. sdgt@(none):~$ w 13:13:53 up 1 day, 5:49, 2 users, load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT sdgt tty8 :0 Tue07 33:54m 6:13 0.14s x-session-manager sdgt pts/010.10.10.191 13:130.00s 0.48s 0.00s w sdgt@(none):~$ export DISPLAY=:0 sdgt@(none):~$ xclock No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 Olá! Possivelmente o X não está aceitando conexões locais no :0, verifique com ps ax|grep Xorg, e na linha que retornar vai ter :0, ou :1, ou :n, que pode ter ainda .y no final, no caso de ter mais de um monitor. Assim, tenha certeza que o :n[.y] que você está usando está correto e que você não está usando o -X ao executar o ssh. Outra forma é conexão direta ao X por TCP-IP, sem logar primeiramente via ssh, assim na mesma linha, se contiver -nolisten tcp, você precisa habilitar o xdm, gdm ou kdm para aceitar conexões tcp, e veja que nas versões mais atuais do X é obrigatório ter -listen tcp, senão não vai funcionar, acompanhe isso em [1], onde coloquei um receita de bolo para recompilar o gdm. Procure na net e leia um pouco mais sobre o assunto e faça seus testes. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=785495
Re: RAID 1 architecture Partition
je vient de me rendre compte que c'est spécifique a l'installateur de jessie donc tu met en raid les deux disques tu crée le multidisque raid1 sur les deux disques puis tu fait partitionnement assisté puis Utiliser le disque entier et tu choisi le périphérique RAID fraichement crée a la différence wheezy ne présente pas ce périphérique dans ce menu Par contre ya une ressemblance Quand tu choisi l'espace libre du perih raid tu peut pas choisir sa taille pour le découper manuellement :/ Le 12/08/2015 14:36, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Clément Breuil a écrit : Oui depuis l'installation debian c'est possible Création d'un raid multidisque puis 2 partitions dedans Comment as-tu procédé en détail ? J'ai essayé, mais je ne vois pas de moyen de créer des partitions dans un ensemble RAID fraîchement créé avec l'interface de l'installateur. Cette option n'est disponible que si l'ensemble RAID a déjà été partitionné avec un autre outil.
Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?
Hello Debian users I am currently a Debian Jessie XFCE user. I want to have your views on Gnome VS XFCE. I want to try Gnome but I want to know if Gnome is stable and works constantly without freezing and crashing. Please share me your experience with Debian Gnome. With Kind Regards, Dwijesh
