Re: traceroute / iptables

[Philippe Gras]

Le 19 nov. 2015 à 01:16, honeyshell  a écrit :

> un petit cours sur le tcp : 
> http://www.frameip.com/routage/#3.2_-_Lencapsulation

Merci :-) Je me demandais justement ce que c'était que cette affaire de couches…
> 
>>> Comment sait-il où se trouve la destination ?
> Tu demandes google.fr; ta trame va d'abord chez le DNS de ton FAI en
> priorité (à moins que tu changes ton DNS). Le DNS fera la résolution
> de nom vers l'adresse IP.
> Perso, j'ai pris les DNS de google (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) pour des
> questions de performances => cela peut faire l'objet d'un test sur tes
> serveurs?

Tu les as ajoutées dans resolv.conf ? Je me suis posé cette question, en effet.

> 
> Une fois l'adresse récupérée, ta trame va passer par des routeurs de
> haut niveau, puis redescendre de "niveau" de routeur en fonction de
> ton IP. Mais ces routes peuvent être prédéfinies dans le cache des
> routeurs, et parfois ne pas être les plus rapides?
> C'est en gros le schéma que je connais. Mais je t'engage à vérifier
> par de la littérature, je ne m'y connais pas bcp en réseaux.
> 

Re: traceroute / iptables

[Pascal Hambourg]

Philippe Gras a écrit :
> Le 18 nov. 2015 à 23:23, Pascal Hambourg  a écrit :
> 
>> Philippe Gras a écrit :
>>> La mission consiste à réduire le temps de résolution DNS de ton site :
>>> $ traceroute -a henix.com
>> Le traceroute n'a rien à voir avec le temps de résolution DNS.
>>
> Oui, j'ai écrit une connerie. Mais à quel moment effectue-t-il cette 
> opération ?

Quelle opération ? La résolution DNS ? A chaque fois qu'il a besoin de
convertir un nom d'hôte en adresse IP et vice versa. Au début avant
d'envoyer les paquets de traceroute pour déterminer l'adresse IP de la
cible, à chaque réponse d'un routeur ou de la cible pour déterminer son
nom d'hôte à partir de l'adresse source du paquet (résolution inverse).

> C'est pas du TCP, en plus ?

Les requêtes DNS utilisent UDP par défaut. On peut aussi utiliser TCP
dans certains cas particuliers comme quand la réponse est trop longue
pour tenir dans un paquet UDP. C'est notamment le cas du transfert de
zone (AXFR).

> Traceroute va donner les routes qui mènent à destination. Comment sait-il où
> se trouve la destination ?

Ça dépend de ce que tu entends par "destination". Si c'est l'adresse IP
de la cible, il la connaît après avoir effectué la résolution du nom
d'hôte de la cible. Si c'est sa localisation, il ne la connaît pas.
Traceroute ne fait qu'afficher les réponses des routeurs rencontrés en
chemin, mais c'est biaisé : un routeur qui répond ne transmet pas le
paquet, c'est le paquet suivant qui sera transmis mais passera peut-être
par un routeur différent.

Re: [RESOLVED] Re: lost onboard network connection on stretch

[Pascal Hambourg]

Gary Dale a écrit :
> 
> modprobe r8169
> ifup eth1
> 
> For some reason the kernel module isn't loading at startup.

Didn't you install the r8168 driver from Realtek for the previous kernel
and blacklist the r8169 module (check /etc/modprobe.d/) ?

Re: Fwd: [gilug] [premsa] Nova jornada de programari lliure, aquest dissabte

[Robert Marsellés]

Hola,

On 17/11/15 22:55, Eloi wrote:
> El 16/11/15 a les 22:00, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
>>
>> Aquest dissabte 21 de novembre fem una trobada conjunta la /Comunitat
>> d'usuaris de Debian de parla catalana/
>>  i el /Girona Linux Users
>> Group/ (GiLUG ).
>>
>> Aquesta múltiple trobada ens permet veure'ns en viu, explicar
>> batalletes, resoldre dubtes, etc. Adjuntem un petit cartellet per
>> donar-li una mica de cara a la trobada i algunes activitans que farem.
>> És benvinguda tota persona amb interès pel programari lliure.
>>
>> Aquí està la ubicació del local per aquest dissabte:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.97685=2.80340#map=19/41.97685/2.80340
>>
> 
> Com arribar a Girona:
> 
> 
> Circular amb cotxe per Girona és complicat, i trobar aparcament encara
> ho és més.
> 
> Si veniu del sud o de l'oest via C-25 la millor opció és l'AP-7/A-2
> sortint per Girona Sud, a la primera rotonda després del peatge seguir
> cap a l'esquerra direcció Salt, tirar recte fins al final i després cap
> a la dreta pel carrer Major, que a Girona és Santa Eugènia.
> 

Gràcies per la info. Jo sóc dels que ha de venir amb vehicle. Per cert,
vinc sol des de les Terres de Ponent. Si algú li fes gràcia anar a la
trobada i està a la vora de la A-2 (fins a Cervera) + C-25 però li fa
peresa conduir o no té cap altra opció, que m'ho digui i el recullo.

> 
> A la tarda podríem fer una volta pel barri vell si no se'ns fa molt
> tard, paga la pena passejar-hi. El problema és que està bastant lluny
> del punt de trobada.
> 

Per mi encantat, mai he estat a Girona. Sempre és millor visitar els
llocs amb gent del terreny.

Salut i peles,

robert

Res: Novo Sistema de Ajuda Mutua

[Carlos Donizete]

  Gostaria de saber, porque está vindo tanto SPAMs nesta lista? Tem como bloquear isto?Enviado do meu smartphone BlackBerry 10.De: Jose Emilson Lima JuniorEnviada: quinta-feira, 19 de novembro de 2015 16:42Para: jessica_lari...@hotmail.com; abrigoamoraje...@gmail.com; neydsongal...@gmail.com; debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org; du.lo...@gmail.comAssunto: Novo Sistema de Ajuda MutuaÈ um sistema de incentivo a DOAÇÃO ESPONTANEA com o objetivo de distribuir renda entre os seus participantes.Não é uma empresa de MMN e não possui CNPJ. É apenas um sistema feito para organizar as doações, facilitando o desenvolvimento do grupo. ·  Não existe intermediário ou atravessadores, e nenhum lucro para empresa x ou y. Você obtém 100% das doações.·  A velocidade das ciclagens depende exclusivamente do ritmo de desenvolvimento da equipe de cada membro doador.·  Investimento único de 25,00 reais. Os demais recursos são oriundo do próprio projeto.Mais informações no link abaixoUSHelp – Unidos Fazemos a Diferença

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Ric Moore]

On 11/19/2015 01:32 PM, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

On Thu, November 19, 2015 4:38 am, David Parfitt wrote:

I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of online
research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical ideas,
please.


In my experience, a good work-around is to use an external, usb audio
interface, such as the Lexcon Alpha, which costs about $50 and provides
several significant benefits over on-board sound, whether for laptop or
desktop.  The Alpha is powered off the usb, and typically "just works".


I agree, I'm using nothing but USB sound devices now. The built-in sound 
on my laptop sux, so I use USB headphones when I travel with it. I also 
use them on my desktop, plus a 7.1 sound device, and either works a 
charm switching between them with pavucontrol. I spent less than $30 
each. Happy happy. Ric



--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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Hulu & HAL -- What's Really Needed to Make It Work?

[Patrick Bartek]

What HAL libraries specifically are needed for Flash DRM
authentication with Hulu?

I've done a lot of searching and can find nothing that specifically
names what is required.  Most all articles are Ubuntu specific, and
recommend the hal-flash stub, which won't work on my Wheezy set up due
to dependencies like udisks2 and its dependency on systemd.  I don't
want anything systemd related on this system.

I did a test with Wheezy 64-bit in Virtual Box, LXDE desktop, and
just installed HAL -- apt-get install hal -- and Hulu worked.  There
seemed to be no conflicts with udev.  However, one article I read
mentioned that the full install of hal isn't needed for the DRM
process, and only certain libraries are required, but they weren't
named.  Stupid.  I'd rather install ONLY what is required to avoid
potential problems.  Any ideas before I start trial and error
installing?

Thanks.

B

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 17:01 +, David Parfitt wrote:
> I was coming to that conclusion myself, but was hoping upon hope that
> I 
> had just missed something.  It also means, I suppose I have to read
> up on 
> the vagaries of UEFI & installing/running second distros.  Debian was
> straightforward - it even thought to warn me that it wasn't a good
> idea 
> to overwrite the EFI partitiion :)  
> Old dogs :(
> Regards
> Daud2

Not really, just try a live cd/usb first. 

If it works with a later kernel or ALSA it can either be added to your
system, or if testing is preferable it's just a dist-upgrade away. No
need to do another installation. 

That is if you really need more recent drivers, I just skimmed your
message and made a few searches on Google.

(No need to cc me, I'm subscribed!)


-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
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intel graphics media accelerator 500 driver

[Mehmet Oktay]

Selam,
Bilgisayarıma Debian 8 kurdum ve gerçekten bir işletim sistemi olduğunu
anladım. Bu kadar uzun ve emek gerektiren çalışmalarınız için sizlere önce
teşekkür ederim.
Herşey çok iyi ve güzel. Yalnız sisteme grafik kartımı bir türlü
tanıtamıyorum. Tabii ki ben linux konusunda çok acemi ve deneyimsizim.
Bilgisayarım çok yavaş çalışıyor ve CPU çokısınıyor.
Intel Graphics media accelerator 500'ün driverını kuramıyorum.
Bana yardımcı olabilir misiniz?
İnşallah bu mektubu okur ve bana yardımcı olursunuz.
Sitem özellikleri şöyle:
Sony vaio vpcp
İntel Atom Z540 işlemci.1,83 ghz
2 gb ram
64 gb ssd harddisk.
intel graphics media accelerator 500

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[rlharris]

On Thu, November 19, 2015 12:50 pm, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> Doesn't lugging that thing around defeat the purpose of having a
> laptop? :)

6 inches by 6 inches by 1.5 inches, knobs and all.  To me, the added
package is a small price for features such as headphone jack plus RCA

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[rlharris]

On Thu, November 19, 2015 4:38 am, David Parfitt wrote:
> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of online
> research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical ideas,
> please.

In my experience, a good work-around is to use an external, usb audio
interface, such as the Lexcon Alpha, which costs about $50 and provides
several significant benefits over on-board sound, whether for laptop or
desktop.  The Alpha is powered off the usb, and typically "just works".

Russ

Novo Sistema de Ajuda Mutua

[Jose Emilson Lima Junior]

È um sistema de incentivo a DOAÇÃO ESPONTANEA com o objetivo de distribuir
renda entre os seus participantes.

Não é uma empresa de MMN e não possui CNPJ. É apenas um sistema feito para
organizar as doações, facilitando o desenvolvimento do grupo.



·  Não existe intermediário ou atravessadores, e nenhum lucro para empresa
x ou y. Você obtém 100% das doações.

·  A velocidade das ciclagens depende exclusivamente do ritmo de
desenvolvimento da equipe de cada membro doador.

·  Investimento único de 25,00 reais. Os demais recursos são oriundo do
próprio projeto.

Mais informações no link abaixo


USHelp – Unidos Fazemos a Diferença

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 12:32 -0600, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> In my experience, a good work-around is to use an external, usb audio
> interface, such as the Lexcon Alpha, which costs about $50 and
> provides
> several significant benefits over on-board sound, whether for laptop
> or
> desktop.  The Alpha is powered off the usb, and typically "just
> works".

Doesn't lugging that thing around defeat the purpose of having a
laptop? :)

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
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Re: traceroute / iptables

[Francois Lafont]

Bonsoir,

On 19/11/2015 11:40, Philippe Gras wrote:

> Merci :-) Je me demandais justement ce que c'était que cette affaire de 
> couches…

Si tu veux avoir quelques bases sur la notion de réseau, sur la pile TCP/IP etc.
personnellement je te conseille vivement ce livre :

   
http://www.amazon.fr/Le-r%C3%A9seau-Internet-services-infrastructures/dp/210054604X

Déjà, ce n'est pas un pavé comme on voit souvent dans ce genre de domaine. Le 
livre
est truffé de nombreux schémas vraiment clairs et en plus il a une approche du 
haut
vers le bas (par rapport aux niveaux des protocoles) ce qui est, je trouve, 
assez
pédagogique. En effet, souvent dans ce domaine les livres commencent souvent 
par le
bas niveau ce qui n'est pas forcément le plus intéressant pour celui qui 
administre
des serveurs. Bref, je trouve que c'est une très bonne référence, tout à fait 
abordable.

-- 
François Lafont

Re: intel graphics media accelerator 500 driver

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 19 November 2015 18:39:49 Mehmet Oktay wrote:
> Selam,
> Bilgisayarıma Debian 8 kurdum ve gerçekten bir işletim sistemi olduğunu
> anladım. Bu kadar uzun ve emek gerektiren çalışmalarınız için sizlere önce
> teşekkür ederim.
> Herşey çok iyi ve güzel. Yalnız sisteme grafik kartımı bir türlü
> tanıtamıyorum. Tabii ki ben linux konusunda çok acemi ve deneyimsizim.
> Bilgisayarım çok yavaş çalışıyor ve CPU çokısınıyor.
> Intel Graphics media accelerator 500'ün driverını kuramıyorum.
> Bana yardımcı olabilir misiniz?
> İnşallah bu mektubu okur ve bana yardımcı olursunuz.
> Sitem özellikleri şöyle:
> Sony vaio vpcp
> İntel Atom Z540 işlemci.1,83 ghz
> 2 gb ram
> 64 gb ssd harddisk.
> intel graphics media accelerator 500

Translations done with the help of Google:
This is the English language mailing list.  You might do better to ask on this 
one:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-turkish/

Bu İngilizce dil posta listesidir. Sen bu bir sormak daha iyi yapabilir:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-turkish/

Google translate says that you are a beginner in Debian.  Welcome to the 
community!
Google translate Eğer Debian bir acemi olduğunu söylüyor. Topluma hoş 
geldiniz!

Lisi

Re: Adobe Flash

[Doug]

On 11/19/2015 07:01 PM, Ric Moore wrote:

On 11/19/2015 11:55 AM, moxalt wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:34:38 +, Lisi Reisz  wrote:



That's a bit arrogant - saying that other people shouldn't watch the news on
their computers because you would choose not to do so.

Lisi


I don't think advocating that others should follow certain ethical principles
is at all arrogant.


It's arrogant as soon as you use the word "should". "Shoulding" is one of the 100+ "Elements 
of Criminal Thinking". Try "IMHO It would be better if..." to offer your personal POV, which others are 
free to accept or ignore. Your views will gain more attraction in that manner.


+1  --doug

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

[Joel Rees]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Martin Str|mberg  wrote:
> [...]
>
>> No information on dual boot.
>
> If with not Linux, it won't work.

That's news to me.

I've mulit-booted openBSD, Fedora in a non-VM LVM, debian, SUSE, and a
previous version of the OSS fork of Solaris. Not all at once, but
three or four at a time.

And I'm pretty sure I've dual-booted MSWindows 7 and Fedora with LVM.

Haven't tried LVM in a GPT mapped disk yet.

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well:
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2011/10/conspiracy-theories.html

Re: no SMART support for western digital drive

[Christoph Anton Mitterer]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 21:29 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Just to report, I've actually done this. I've uploaded a package of
> the
> new upstream version today; but I uploaded it to the 'DELAYED-7'
> queue
> to give the maintainer an opportunity to block the upload if they
> aren't
> happy with it. In the meantime, a copy of the package is available at
> http://jmtd.net/tmp/smartmontools/

Thanks for your efforts :-)

Chris.

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Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

[Joel Rees]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> On 11/18/2015 4:07 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>> 2015/11/18 9:09 "Richard Owlett":
>>>
>>>
>>> In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease
>>>  of adjusting space.
>>
>>
>> Yeah. I'm not using it now, but it did come in handy when I was
>> still getting a feeling for partitioning.
>
>
> I've a machine set aside for experimenting with how an install is configured
> for a couple of personal projects. Relative space usage cannot be determined
> in advance.

Sounds like an excellent reason to at least experiment with LVM.

One reason I used it in the past was that, for some reason, I did not
want to use the so-called DOS/BIOS (or linux) extended partitions and
I needed lots of partitions. LVM is a bit more flexible. (I don't
recall trying to use more than one linux extended partition, I've only
recognized that they seem to exist lately.)

With GPT the limits on numbers of partitions, etc., are supposedly
relaxed, but I haven't done that, yet.

>>> When searching for more information all I'm finding are essentially
>>> HOWTO's
>>>  with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" and "Whys".
>
> Essentially nothing

Uhm, no news is good news?

>>>
>>>  on "Why not".
>>>
>>
>> Reasons not to use it range from laziness to not needing it after
>> all (right now) to wanting to use incompatible software. My
>> impression is that the incompatible software usually tells you
>> somewhere it's not compatible.
>
>
> I have a current possible use but want to know in advance of rough spots to
> estimate if the effort is likely to be productive.

Rough spots?

I never saw any in over ten years of use. That's part of the reason
you don't hear much about it.

Well, the GUI gadget is a bit slow, slower than gparted when
re-scanning your disk after an edit is applied. But that's only a
problem when you are in a rush, but you really don't want to be in
that kind of a rush when messing with your partitions.

LVM is much more flexible and less prone to do things to your data
than, say, the tools that re-size your partitions the hard way. You do
still have to exercise common sense, however.

I've lost a re-sized partition permanently using a commercial tool
whose name I refuse to remember.

I lost a bunch of LVM  partitions once through pure carelessness and
used the LVM maintenance tools to recover them. Took a couple of hours
to read the manuals, recover, and be on my way. Kept using that
partition map for several years with no problems.

>>> No information on dual boot.
>>
>> That's fairly straightforward.

I think I have heard of people booting straight out of LVM partitions,
but that takes more gum tape than I like to use. I do believe grub is
able to look into LVM partitions somewhat these days, so you may want
to play with having grub on a ("BIOS/DOS" map) primary partition
booting to a boot/root partition in an LVM managed logical volume.

>>> Suggestions?
>>
>> man -k lvm   ?
>
> That lead to a productive but OT rabbit trail ;)
> Man pages are by design inherently very detailed HOWTO's.
>

No, those are not rabbit trails. That's basically the stuff you need
to know when you are considering using it.

If you are worried about it, use your experimenting box first. If not,
I'm not sure why you would think twice unless your RAID docs say they
don't play nice with LVM (or LVM doesn't play nice with them) or, say,
you are using that XML file system or some other exotic file system.

your usual efs2, 3, and 4 all work fine in LVM partitions. After
adding extents to a logical partition, you may need to add inodes, and
you do want to be careful when shrinking a partitition with live data
in it.  (Common sense, right? Back-up the data, etc.)

Oh, use the GUI at first. It helps you visualize what you are doing.
Other than being slow, it works well for initial partitioning, adding
extents, and reminding yourself where the spare physical partitions
are, etc.

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well:
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2011/10/conspiracy-theories.html

Re: Adobe Flash

[Ric Moore]

On 11/19/2015 11:55 AM, moxalt wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:34:38 +, Lisi Reisz  wrote:



That's a bit arrogant - saying that other people shouldn't watch the news on
their computers because you would choose not to do so.

Lisi


I don't think advocating that others should follow certain ethical principles
is at all arrogant.


It's arrogant as soon as you use the word "should". "Shoulding" is one 
of the 100+ "Elements of Criminal Thinking". Try "IMHO It would be 
better if..." to offer your personal POV, which others are free to 
accept or ignore. Your views will gain more attraction in that manner.


--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: Adobe Flash

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 19 November 2015 16:55:43 moxalt wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:34:38 +, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 November 2015 19:24:31 moxalt wrote:
> > > > The OP is currently watching the
> > > > news on Doze.  Hardly more secure than flash
> > >
> > > And OP should do neither.
> >
> > That's a bit arrogant - saying that other people shouldn't watch the news
> > on their computers because you would choose not to do so.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> I don't think advocating that others should follow certain ethical
> principles is at all arrogant. What you're accusing me of is telling others
> to reject non-free software because I do so. This is not true. I think
> people in general should not use proprietary software, and I comply by this
> ethical principle. In what way is recommending that others should do the
> same arrogant?

Telling others what they "should" do is arrogant.  Especially on this forum on 
occasions where people are only using the Debian repositories.

It is admirable that you are prepared to make sacrifices for your principles.  
Telling others that they "should" make sacrifices for your principles is 
arrogant.  Persuade them by all means.  But if you are so dead set against 
all use of non-free or not-quite-fully-free software, use one of these:
http://www.gnu.org/distros/

Contrib and non-free Debian repositories exist.  We are entitled to use them 
in peace and without being given moral lectures and being carpeted like 
naughty schoolboys.

I for one, and I am not saying that anyone else "should" do it, use FLOSS 
wherever possible.  But I want to use e.g. the BBC site, and I cannot do so 
with FLOSS and Wheezy.  So I use software that isn't in main.  You I assume 
have only main in your sources.list.  Bully for you.  Some of us choose to 
use the other repositories as well in order to use our computers more fully.

And I use Linux.  You use GNU/Linux.  Again, bully for you.  That is a matter 
of semantics.

Lisi


> For instance, I hold that people should not kill each other needlessly. I
> comply by this principle too, and do not kill people. In what way is
> recommending to others that they follow this principle arrogant?

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:10:02 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 + David Parfitt 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all:

>> daud@debian:~$ aplay -l  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
>> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC
>> Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
>>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>>   Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> 
> As your soundcard has two outputs, check that you're not outputting
> through the HDMI. In pavucontrol. on the "Configuration" tab, make sure
> the profile is something like "Analog Stereo Duplex" or "Analog Stereo
> Output". Next, go to the "Output" tab and confirm that the port is
> "Speakers" or "Headphones" (as appropriate) and check the volume/muting
> on that tab.
> 

Thx Darac
I'd already checked this.
Regards
Daud2

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

[Martin Str|mberg]

In article  Joel Rees  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Martin Str|mberg  wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> No information on dual boot.
> >
> > If with not Linux, it won't work.

> That's news to me.

> I've mulit-booted openBSD, Fedora in a non-VM LVM, debian, SUSE, and a
> previous version of the OSS fork of Solaris. Not all at once, but
> three or four at a time.

Ok, I don't know if the BSDs can handle LVM or not, but when did
Fedora and Suse leave the Linux kernel? (That's news to me.) Don't know
about "OSS fork of Solaris".

> And I'm pretty sure I've dual-booted MSWindows 7 and Fedora with LVM.

I don't believe you. I'm pretty sure that WINDOWS can't read LVM.

Even if it did, I wouldn't want it to muck around in it.

> Haven't tried LVM in a GPT mapped disk yet.

Obviously that'll work (although I don't remember if I tried
that). It's just partitions...


-- 
MartinS

Re: no SMART support for western digital drive

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:45:31AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> It would appear it is not receiving enough attention. However, it is
> in the collab-maint repository, so in theory any DD could work on it.
> Since I use and rely on smartmontools myself, I'm adding this to my
> TODO list.

Just to report, I've actually done this. I've uploaded a package of the
new upstream version today; but I uploaded it to the 'DELAYED-7' queue
to give the maintainer an opportunity to block the upload if they aren't
happy with it. In the meantime, a copy of the package is available at
http://jmtd.net/tmp/smartmontools/

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Joe]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:50:35 +0100
Sven Arvidsson  wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 12:32 -0600, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> > In my experience, a good work-around is to use an external, usb
> > audio interface, such as the Lexcon Alpha, which costs about $50 and
> > provides
> > several significant benefits over on-board sound, whether for laptop
> > or
> > desktop.  The Alpha is powered off the usb, and typically "just
> > works".  
> 
> Doesn't lugging that thing around defeat the purpose of having a
> laptop? :)
> 

Not really, if you bend your spine carrying a laptop around, it's not
just for email and web surfing. I carry a mains power adaptor, a 12V
adaptor if I'm travelling in someone else's vehicle, various USB cables
and a small hub plus mains power for it, straight and crossover Ethernet
cables plus a back-to-back adaptor, a webcam, a small graphics tablet,
two microcontroller programmers and a USB-serial adaptor cable... and a
small mouse, because I don't get on with those wretched gefingerpoken
devices.

If I just want email and web surfing, I carry a netbook, and only
carry power adaptors if I'm not on foot. Horses, as always, for courses.

-- 
Joe

Re: Hulu & HAL -- What's Really Needed to Make It Work?

[Brian]

On Thu 19 Nov 2015 at 11:02:26 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> What HAL libraries specifically are needed for Flash DRM
> authentication with Hulu?
> 
> I've done a lot of searching and can find nothing that specifically
> names what is required.  Most all articles are Ubuntu specific, and
> recommend the hal-flash stub, which won't work on my Wheezy set up due
> to dependencies like udisks2 and its dependency on systemd.  I don't
> want anything systemd related on this system.
> 
> I did a test with Wheezy 64-bit in Virtual Box, LXDE desktop, and
> just installed HAL -- apt-get install hal -- and Hulu worked.  There
> seemed to be no conflicts with udev.  However, one article I read
> mentioned that the full install of hal isn't needed for the DRM
> process, and only certain libraries are required, but they weren't
> named.  Stupid.  I'd rather install ONLY what is required to avoid
> potential problems.  Any ideas before I start trial and error
> installing?

You are able to watch Hulu on Wheezy. You are on a winner while you use
Wheezy. Let the future take care of itself.

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Darac Marjal]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 +
David Parfitt  wrote:

> Hi all:
> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
> online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
> ideas, please.
> 
> What I've done:
> 1.  Checked alsamixer & pavucontrol - I can't find anything muted.
> alsamixer shows 'Speakers' as muted at the start of each session.
> Increasing the volume on 'Speakers' (third from left) makes no
> difference.
> 
> The only sound I have achieved at all is when (using alsamixer) I
> raise the levels of 'Mic Boost' high, when I get 'white noise'.  This,
> however, suggests to me that the speakers are functional.
> 
> I even tried these:
> 'The Steve Litt Diagnostic Tools' from
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/sound/downloads/
> unmute_all.sh just hangs after printing its headphones warning.
> 
> 2.  Checked drivers / kernel modules.  These seem to me to be a.
> correct & b. working.  pavumeter shows appropriately fluctuating
> signal levels when I play a track through aplay or through vlc.
> 
> 3.  Torn my hair / crossed my fingers / lost sleep / read a lot - much
> of it outdated (I wish people would date online troubleshooting guides
> etc BEFORE, near the end, it suggests I add (e.g.) etch-backports to
> sources.list).
> 
> I've provided all the relevant information I can think of below - of
> course I'd be happy to provide anything else that would help.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas, please let me know :)  I follow the
> linux.debian.user usenet group on pan regularly, but do not otherwise
> receive e-mails.  You're welcome to e-mail me with any suggestions.
> 
> Regards
> Daud2
> 
> 
> ===
> All the Hardware/Driver/System Info I can think of:
> ===
> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
> 8.2
> 
> daud@debian:~$ uname -a
> Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt17-1 (2015-09-26)
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> daud@debian:~$ gnome-session --version
> gnome-session 3.14.0
> 
> daud@debian:~$ pulseaudio --version
> pulseaudio 5.0
> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'
> model name: Intel Core i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
> 
> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio
> 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD
> Audio [8086:a170] (rev 31)

To check if this card is supported by your kernel, see if:
# modinfo snd_hda_intel | grep -i '8086.*a170'
returns anything.

> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>   HDA Intel PCH at 0xdf42 irq 145
> 
> daud@debian:~$ aplay -l
>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC
> Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

As your soundcard has two outputs, check that you're not outputting
through the HDMI. In pavucontrol. on the "Configuration" tab, make sure
the profile is something like "Analog Stereo Duplex" or "Analog Stereo
Output". Next, go to the "Output" tab and confirm that the port is
"Speakers" or "Headphones" (as appropriate) and check the volume/muting
on that tab.

> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules
>  0 snd_hda_intel
> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/version
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version k3.16.0-4-amd64
> 
> daud@debian:~$ lsmod | grep snd
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1 
> snd_hda_codec_realtek67127  1 
> snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
> snd_hda_intel  26327  6 
> snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_codec 104500  5
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
> snd_pcm88662  4
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
> snd65244  20
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
> soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
> 
> daud@debian:~$ aplay "/home/daud/test.mp3"
> Playing raw data '/home/daud/Downloads/test.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit,
> Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
> daud@debian:~$ aplay "/home/daud/ReminderFox.wav"
> Playing WAVE '/home/daud/FilesToSave/ReminderFox.wav' : Signed 16 bit
> Little Endian, Rate 16000 Hz, Mono
> 
> HARDWARE (Manufacturer's List) ( www.pcspecialist.co.uk )
> Chassis & Display Cosmos Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED
> Widescreen (1920x1080)
> Processor (CPU)   Intel Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ
> (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
> Memory 

Re: Hulu & HAL -- What's Really Needed to Make It Work?

[Patrick Bartek]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015, Brian wrote:

> On Thu 19 Nov 2015 at 11:02:26 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > What HAL libraries specifically are needed for Flash DRM
> > authentication with Hulu?
> > 
> > I've done a lot of searching and can find nothing that specifically
> > names what is required.  Most all articles are Ubuntu specific, and
> > recommend the hal-flash stub, which won't work on my Wheezy set up
> > due to dependencies like udisks2 and its dependency on systemd.  I
> > don't want anything systemd related on this system.
> > 
> > I did a test with Wheezy 64-bit in Virtual Box, LXDE desktop, and
> > just installed HAL -- apt-get install hal -- and Hulu worked.  There
> > seemed to be no conflicts with udev.  However, one article I read
> > mentioned that the full install of hal isn't needed for the DRM
> > process, and only certain libraries are required, but they weren't
> > named.  Stupid.  I'd rather install ONLY what is required to avoid
> > potential problems.  Any ideas before I start trial and error
> > installing?
> 
> You are able to watch Hulu on Wheezy. You are on a winner while you
> use Wheezy. Let the future take care of itself.
> 

The Future belongs to those who make it.

B

Re: [OT] Experiencia con la navegación privada en Firefox

[listascor...@msjs.co]

El 19/11/15 a las 11:51, Camaleón escibió:
> Hola,
> 
Hola

> Desde que actualicé a Firefox 42.0, 
¿leve síntoma de versionitis?

había notado que al cerrar el
> navegador me decía que no se había cerrado correctamente y que si quería 
> enviar el informe de fallos (lo típico cuando Firefox se queda 
> enganchado), el problema es que cada vez me aparecía ese mensaje con más 
> frecuencia, varias veces al día lo cual es un poco molesto.
> 
a mi me sale el típico: “Bueno, esto es vergonzoso...”
pero bueno, con todo respeto, digamos que ya me acostumbre a las
”vergüenzas” de firefox (iceweasel).

> Ya tenía una vaga idea de dónde podía estar el origen problema porque no 
> era la primera vez que me pasaba algo parecido aunque antes el error más 
> común era al abrir el navegador y no al cerrarlo, que se quedaba 
> enganchada una instancia anterior y te avisaba de que había que cerrarla 
> antes de inicia una nueva. 
> 
> Estos errores se producían por dos motivos, principalmente:
> 
> 1/ Suelo abrir y cerrar el navegador al día alguna que otra vez, es 
> decir, no soy de las que inicia sesión en el escritorio y lo deja abierto 
> continuamente.
> 
> 2/ Tenía configurada la opción de eliminar el historial, caché, cookies, 
> etc... Cuando se cerrara el navegador.
> 
> Esta combinación hacía que se produjeran esos mensajes molestos y lo 
> comprobé al desactivar la opción de eliminar el historial: mano de santo. 
> Pero no me gusta tener basura acumulada y no me terminaba de convencer 
> esa opción.
> 
> Buscando alguna alternativa 

¿y qué paso con Tor? ¿muy lento?

me encontré con la opción del modo privado,
> que nunca había activado pero al leer lo que hacía (simplemente no guarda 
> nada, ningún dato en la caché) pensé que merecía la pena probarlo para no 
> estar teniendo que eliminar los datos a mano cada "x" tiempo pero sabía 
> que navegando en este modo podía tener problemas con algunas páginas web 
> y las que principalmente me importaban eran las web de los bancos (inicio 
> de sesión), paypal, ebay, tiendas online (pasarela de pagos, carrito de 
> la compra), Gmail (aunque accedo poco vía web), periódicos... En fin, 

Uff.. Demasiada info.

> páginas "serias" porque redes sociales y eso no tengo

Decir eso puede llegar a ser bastante “seductor“ para muchos.

 pero la sorpresa ha
> sido que desde ya varios días que navego "privadamente" no he tenido 
> problemas graves, aunque sí es verdad que alguna página (p. Ej., la de El 
> Mundo) me ha dado guerra (imágenes o vídeos que no cargan) pero poco más 
> y lo que he ganado, además de mantener la caché del navegador limpita, 
> que al fin y al cabo era lo que quería, es que veo menos publicidad (y no 
> tengo ninguna extensión instalada como ad-block o similares) así que me 
> ha sorprendido gratamente esta opción :-)
> 
Interesante eso que dices y gracias por el dato.

Saludos,
> Saludos,
> 

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 19:59 +, Joe wrote:
> If I just want email and web surfing, I carry a netbook, and only
> carry power adaptors if I'm not on foot. Horses, as always, for
> courses.

Right, but you need an external sound card for that notebook, remember?
;)

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5





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bug reporting, repositories and distros

[David Cimadevilla]

I have installed solydk, a debian jessie based distro. In the latest 
update one of the installed packages messed up all my kde/qt apps.


This package comes from debian jessie security updates repository. 
Installing the previous version of the package the issue goes away.


Since extrictily I am not a debian user, should I report this bug with 
reportbug?


These are my repos:

deb http://repository.solydxk.com solydxk main upstream import
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free

No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

Hi all:
I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of online
research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical ideas,
please.

What I've done:
1.  Checked alsamixer & pavucontrol - I can't find anything muted.
alsamixer shows 'Speakers' as muted at the start of each session.
Increasing the volume on 'Speakers' (third from left) makes no
difference.

The only sound I have achieved at all is when (using alsamixer) I raise
the levels of 'Mic Boost' high, when I get 'white noise'.  This,
however, suggests to me that the speakers are functional.

I even tried these:
'The Steve Litt Diagnostic Tools' from
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/sound/downloads/
unmute_all.sh just hangs after printing its headphones warning.

2.  Checked drivers / kernel modules.  These seem to me to be a. correct
& b. working.  pavumeter shows appropriately fluctuating signal levels
when I play a track through aplay or through vlc.

3.  Torn my hair / crossed my fingers / lost sleep / read a lot - much
of it outdated (I wish people would date online troubleshooting guides
etc BEFORE, near the end, it suggests I add (e.g.) etch-backports to
sources.list).

I've provided all the relevant information I can think of below - of
course I'd be happy to provide anything else that would help.

If anyone has any ideas, please let me know :)  I follow the
linux.debian.user usenet group on pan regularly, but do not otherwise
receive e-mails.  You're welcome to e-mail me with any suggestions.

Regards
Daud2


===
All the Hardware/Driver/System Info I can think of:
===

daud@debian:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
8.2

daud@debian:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt17-1 (2015-09-26)
x86_64 GNU/Linux

daud@debian:~$ gnome-session --version
gnome-session 3.14.0

daud@debian:~$ pulseaudio --version
pulseaudio 5.0

daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'
model name  : Intel Core i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz

daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio
00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio
[8086:a170] (rev 31)

daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
  HDA Intel PCH at 0xdf42 irq 145

daud@debian:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules
 0 snd_hda_intel

daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version k3.16.0-4-amd64

daud@debian:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1 
snd_hda_codec_realtek67127  1 
snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel  26327  6 
snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 104500  5
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm88662  4
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
snd65244  20
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec

daud@debian:~$ aplay "/home/daud/test.mp3"
Playing raw data '/home/daud/Downloads/test.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate
8000 Hz, Mono
daud@debian:~$ aplay "/home/daud/ReminderFox.wav"
Playing WAVE '/home/daud/FilesToSave/ReminderFox.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Rate 16000 Hz, Mono

HARDWARE (Manufacturer's List) ( www.pcspecialist.co.uk )
Chassis & Display   Cosmos Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen
(1920x1080)
Processor (CPU) Intel Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz,
3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card   NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M - 2.0GB DDR3 Video RAM - DirectX®
12
Memory - Hard Disk  1TB WD BLUE 2.5" WD10JPVX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 8MB CACHE
(5400 rpm)
mSATA/M.2 SSD Drive 128GB M.2 2280, SATA 6Gb/s (510MB/R, 310MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive   8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)
Memory Card Reader  Internal 9 in 1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD: Mini, XC &
HC/MS: Pro & Duo)
Sound Card  Via 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & WirelessGIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL N-7265 M.2 (300Mbps,
802.11BGN) + BLUETOOTH
USB Options 3 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARD

Audio Chipset   Via™ High Definition Audio Channels 2 channel HD
Audio Connections   Microphone-in and 

Re: apt WAS:var is full...

[Whit Hansell]

Thanks for the info J.  I use autoclean instead of clean and it shows 
certain packages deleted list after the upgrade.


My normal update/upgrade regimen goes thusly:

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get autoclean
updatedb

I don't know if that is the bestest and greatest way to do it but it 
does well for me.


Thanks for the info on the cron job situation w. apt.  Going to look 
into it and see if i can understand it.


Whit

On 11/19/2015 12:41 AM, Jochen Spieker wrote:

Brian:

To remove every package and the package lists in apt/archives:

   apt-get clean.

The package lists are unaffected by the clean operation. You do not need
to run an update afterwards.

What's not generally known is that apt comes with a cron job that can
perform house keeping. It can be configured in apt.conf like this:

APT {
 Periodic {
 // see: /etc/cron.daily/apt
 Update-Package-Lists "0";
 Download-Upgradeable-Packages "0";
 AutocleanInterval "1";
 MinAge "3";
 MaxAge "7";
 MaxSize "1024";
 }
}

See the comments in /etc/cron.daily/apt. As far as I am aware, that's
the only place where this is documented.

J.

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Charlie]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 + David Parfitt sent:

> Hi all:
> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
> online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
> ideas, please.

Sound is a never ending problem with Debian. It's just the way it is,
so I have found it.

Try alsamixer and press F6 and if you have the option of a couple of
sound cards try each one. But it may not stick if you reboot.

Try pulseaudio, you don't always need to use pavucontrol, that works
sometimes but after a reboot it also may fail. Then uninstall it and
try again without and that may work.

Sometimes your headphone jack works and sometimes it doesn't so you
play around with alsamixer and pulseaudio and you can possibly get it
working. I haven't been able to recently.

It's really, try everything till you hit on the combination that works
and depending what audio package you use, you may also have to select
the audio function to get the sound to work. VLC has heaps and you just
work through them till one works. One will probably work?

Or you may plug in a USB stick and get a dialogue up that asks you what
you want to do with the sound configuration, various options. All a bit
hit and miss.

I've never had sound working constantly no matter what brand laptop or
sound card is in the machine. If I want to listen to music or speech on
a video, always have to fiddle to get it working. Done it for so many
years now it has become automagic.

Probably not much help.

Charlie

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Registered Linux User:- 329524
***

I do not know how to distinguish between our waking life and a
dream. Are we not always living the life that we imagine we
are? .Henry David Thoreau

***

Debian GNU/Linux - Magic indeed.

-

Should I report this bug with reportbug?

[David Cimadevilla]

I have installed solydk, a debian jessie based distro. In the latest 
update one of the installed packages messed up all my kde/qt apps.


This package comes from debian jessie security updates repository. 
Installing the previous version of the package the issue goes away.


Since extrictily I am not a debian user, should I report this bug with 
reportbug?


These are my repos:

   deb http://repository.solydxk.com solydxk main upstream import
   deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
   deb http://security.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib 
non-free
   deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main 
contrib non-free

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/18/2015 9:58 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:49PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:


In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for
ease of adjusting space.

When searching for more information all I'm finding are
essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats"
and "Whys". Essentially nothing on "Why not".

No information on dual boot.

Suggestions?



The patent for logical volumes,
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US=5129088==E=en_EP,
might give you an idea of the motivation of LVM.


Using that to get the patent number, I found 
http://www.uspto.gov/ easier to navigate.

Once I edit out the "lawyer talk" it should be informative.



Also note that LVM on linux is quite intimately linked to the
Device Mapper system.


Web search for "Device Mapper" was illuminating.

Should I report this bug with reportbug?

[David Cimadevilla]

I have installed solydk, a debian jessie based distro. In the latest 
update one of the installed packages messed up all my kde/qt apps.


This package comes from debian jessie security updates repository. 
Installing the previous version of the package the issue goes away.


Since extrictily I am not a debian user, should I report this bug with 
reportbug?


These are my repos:

deb http://repository.solydxk.com solydxk main upstream import
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free

Re: Root account blocked

[Eero Volotinen]

How about encrypting disks with luks?

Eero
19.11.2015 3.32 ip. "Himanshu Shekhar"  kirjoitti:

> This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to data theft.
> Following the above steps, anyone having physical access to the device by
> any means (which is more likely in case of mobile devices), could gain root
> access and do whatever one wants to do with the system as well as the data.
> One solution suggested to me was to set a BIOS password. That's good.
>
> I would like to know that is there any way once you forget your BIOS
> password.
>
> Regards
> Himanshu Shekhar
>

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

[Joel Rees]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Martin Str|mberg  wrote:
> In article  Joel Rees  
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Martin Str|mberg  wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >
>> >> No information on dual boot.
>> >
>> > If with not Linux, it won't work.
>
>> That's news to me.
>
>> I've mulit-booted openBSD, Fedora in a non-VM LVM, debian, SUSE, and a
>> previous version of the OSS fork of Solaris. Not all at once, but
>> three or four at a time.
>
> Ok, I don't know if the BSDs can handle LVM or not,

I'm told that it builds and "works" for some purposes. I think you
have to enable the Linux emulation stuff. I was not using LVM on it,
however. Just on Fedora.

> but when did
> Fedora and Suse leave the Linux kernel? (That's news to me.) Don't know
> about "OSS fork of Solaris".

Check the wikipedia page for Solaris. Illumos and OpenSolaris are
mentioned, althout Indiana and others are not.

When I was playing with it, LVM did build on Solaris, IIRC. That was
before ZFS or whatever that is.. I don't remember whether I used it
there or not.

No, Solaris is not Linux. Closer to the BSDs, but getting further away.

And I was talking about multi-booting in general, which is what the OP
asked about, not about the Linux kernel.

>> And I'm pretty sure I've dual-booted MSWindows 7 and Fedora with LVM.
>
> I don't believe you. I'm pretty sure that WINDOWS can't read LVM.

I never asked it to.

Set up a vfat formatted partition for sharing.

BTW, I could mount and read NTFS from Fedora, even wrote to it once or twice.

I have heard somewhere of a project that had succeeded in making LVM
visible to MSWindows, but I haven't heard how well they progressed.
They may have given up.

> Even if it did, I wouldn't want it to muck around in it.

That's probably wise.

>> Haven't tried LVM in a GPT mapped disk yet.
>
> Obviously that'll work (although I don't remember if I tried
> that). It's just partitions...

It seems odd to me that you think it obvious. GPT mucks with a lot of
underlying assumptions.

> --
> MartinS
>

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well:
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2011/10/conspiracy-theories.html

Re: exec et php

[nicolas . pechon]

Le 2015-11-10 14:33, Eric Degenetais a écrit :

A la fin du fichier j'ai:

 " [106]=> string(75) 
"[1{/var/lib/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map} 
<../../images/3.png>]" [107]=> string(28) "(./test.aux) )" [108]=> 
string(52) "(see the transcript file for additional information)" 
[109]=> string(79)


"!pdfTeX error: /usr/bin/pdflatex (file tcti1200): Font tcti1200 at
600 not foun" [110]=> string(1) "d" [111]=> string(55) " ==> Fatal
error occurred, no output PDF file produced!"

 }

Il dit pourquoi il plante: il ne trouve pas la font qu'il est censé
utiliser. Donc la question est: comment pdflatex trouve-t'il ses font
(ce que j'ignore) et en quoi est-ce que ça peut être différent pour le
processus apache?


Bonjour,
Ne trouvant toujours pas de solution, je me permet un petit UP. Si 
quelqu'un a une piste a me proposer...


Merci d'avance

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 10:38 +, David Parfitt wrote:
> Hi all:
> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
> online
> research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical ideas,
> please.
[...]
> 
> daud@debian:~$ uname -a
> Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt17-1 (2015-09-26)
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
[...]
> 
> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio
> 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD
> Audio
> [8086:a170] (rev 31)

From the above, I would guess that it just isn't supported. Grab a live
cd/usb from something that uses a very recent kernel and see if you get
sound. 

If so, you need to either try a more recent kernel, or maybe even run
testing.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5





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Re: Adobe Flash

[moxalt]

On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 00:02:55 +, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Thursday 19 November 2015 16:55:43 moxalt wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:34:38 +, Lisi Reisz 
> > wrote:  
> > > On Wednesday 18 November 2015 19:24:31 moxalt wrote:  
> > > > > The OP is currently watching the
> > > > > news on Doze.  Hardly more secure than flash  
> > > >
> > > > And OP should do neither.  
> > >
> > > That's a bit arrogant - saying that other people shouldn't watch the news
> > > on their computers because you would choose not to do so.
> > >
> > > Lisi  
> >
> > I don't think advocating that others should follow certain ethical
> > principles is at all arrogant. What you're accusing me of is telling others
> > to reject non-free software because I do so. This is not true. I think
> > people in general should not use proprietary software, and I comply by this
> > ethical principle. In what way is recommending that others should do the
> > same arrogant?  
> 
> Telling others what they "should" do is arrogant.

I disagree. Condemning anyone for ever telling anyone to do anything as
'arrogant' is plain silly. If I am to be called 'arrogant' for advocating
certain principles, so be it.

What word would you have me use so that others do not feel uncomfortable? What
would you have me do? Should (there it is again!) I simply deliver my opinions
in terms of imperatives- do this and do that? That seems far more arrogant to
me.

I find it somewhat peculiar that you would find the word 'should' so
triggering. I tell people that they should do things all the time, and others
tell me that I should do things all the time. I am not in any way offended by
this. If I agree, I will express my agreement and do the thing that they think
I should do. If I disagree, I will explain why and refuse.

>  Especially on this forum
> on occasions where people are only using the Debian repositories.

I don't understand this.

> It is admirable that you are prepared to make sacrifices for your
> principles. Telling others that they "should" make sacrifices for your
> principles is arrogant.  Persuade them by all means.  But if you are so dead
> set against all use of non-free or not-quite-fully-free software, use one of
> these: http://www.gnu.org/distros/

I was a Trisquel user for a long time. I still recommend Trisquel to those new
to the world of free software. Personally I prefer Debian. As long as non-free
and contrib are not enabled, Debian is just as free as any of those
distributions. However, as
https://www.gnu.org/distros/optionally-free-not-enough.html points out,
distributions which merely present a choice between freedom and subjugation are
not good enough for people who are not committed free software users and who
are not prepared to defend their freedom when the choice is offered.

This is why the distributions listed at
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html should be recommended to the
general public.

> Contrib and non-free Debian repositories exist.  We are entitled to use them 
> in peace and without being given moral lectures and being carpeted like 
> naughty schoolboys.

This is true.

> And I use Linux.  You use GNU/Linux.  Again, bully for you.  That is a matter 
> of semantics.

I use both Linux and GNU/Linux. Linux is my kernel; GNU/Linux is my operating
system.

Once upon a time, I called the whole thing Linux too.

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

[Chris Bannister]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 09:46:34AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> LVM is much more flexible and less prone to do things to your data
> than, say, the tools that re-size your partitions the hard way. You do
> still have to exercise common sense, however.
> 
> I've lost a re-sized partition permanently using a commercial tool
> whose name I refuse to remember.
> 
> I lost a bunch of LVM  partitions once through pure carelessness and
> used the LVM maintenance tools to recover them. Took a couple of hours
> to read the manuals, recover, and be on my way. Kept using that
> partition map for several years with no problems.

Please don't confuse physical volumes and partitions, the OP seems
confused enough already. :)

http://linuxconfig.org/linux-lvm-logical-volume-manager

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Re: Adobe Flash

[moxalt]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:01:49 -0500, Ric Moore  wrote:

> On 11/19/2015 11:55 AM, moxalt wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:34:38 +, Lisi Reisz 
> > wrote:  
> 
> >> That's a bit arrogant - saying that other people shouldn't watch the news
> >> on their computers because you would choose not to do so.
> >>
> >> Lisi  
> >
> > I don't think advocating that others should follow certain ethical
> > principles is at all arrogant.  
> 
> It's arrogant as soon as you use the word "should". "Shoulding" is one 
> of the 100+ "Elements of Criminal Thinking". Try "IMHO It would be 
> better if..." to offer your personal POV, which others are free to 
> accept or ignore. Your views will gain more attraction in that manner.

Very well. I shall reformulate my earlier posts. Here is the first instance of
my vicious and triggering usage of the word 'should':

For those websites which still require Flash, IMHO it would be better if you
found some way of downloading the video (preferably in an open format).

Here is the second:

IMHO it would be better if the OP did neither.

Happy now? Feeling less threatened?

..

You know what, I started out this post wanting to get back at you for what I
felt was an unfair backlash to my usage of what I thought to be an innocent and
widely-used word: 'should'. Now that I look at the edited offending sections,
they actually look far better and far more reasonable when I put it the way you
suggested. Thank you. I shall try and avoid using the word 'should' when
unnecessary in the future (except when I'm preaching to the choir over in the
Trisquel forum that is ;).

I am sorry.

Re: Fwd: [gilug] [premsa] Nova jornada de programari lliure, aquest dissabte

[Mònica Ramírez Arceda]

Robert Marsellés  writes:

> Hola,
>
> On 17/11/15 22:55, Eloi wrote:
>> El 16/11/15 a les 22:00, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
>>>
>>> Aquest dissabte 21 de novembre fem una trobada conjunta la /Comunitat
>>> d'usuaris de Debian de parla catalana/
>>>  i el /Girona Linux Users
>>> Group/ (GiLUG ).
>>>
>>> Aquesta múltiple trobada ens permet veure'ns en viu, explicar
>>> batalletes, resoldre dubtes, etc. Adjuntem un petit cartellet per
>>> donar-li una mica de cara a la trobada i algunes activitans que farem.
>>> És benvinguda tota persona amb interès pel programari lliure.
>>>
>>> Aquí està la ubicació del local per aquest dissabte:
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.97685=2.80340#map=19/41.97685/2.80340
>>>
>> 
>> Com arribar a Girona:
>> 
>> 
>> Circular amb cotxe per Girona és complicat, i trobar aparcament encara
>> ho és més.
>> 
>> Si veniu del sud o de l'oest via C-25 la millor opció és l'AP-7/A-2
>> sortint per Girona Sud, a la primera rotonda després del peatge seguir
>> cap a l'esquerra direcció Salt, tirar recte fins al final i després cap
>> a la dreta pel carrer Major, que a Girona és Santa Eugènia.
>> 
>
> Gràcies per la info. Jo sóc dels que ha de venir amb vehicle. Per cert,
> vinc sol des de les Terres de Ponent. Si algú li fes gràcia anar a la
> trobada i està a la vora de la A-2 (fins a Cervera) + C-25 però li fa
> peresa conduir o no té cap altra opció, que m'ho digui i el recullo.

Jo també aniré amb cotxe des de l'Alt Congost, també puc compartir cotxe
si algú és de la zona (tot i que jo tornaré després de
dinar). M'encantaria anar amb transport públic, però la combinació és
inviable :(

No sé si es va comentar en algun altre correu, però tot i que sigui
difícil, on ens recomaneu aparcar?

Salut!

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

Thx for responding, Charlie.

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:30:03 +0100, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 + David Parfitt sent:
> 
>> Hi all:
>> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
>> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
>> online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
>> ideas, please.
> 
> Sound is a never ending problem with Debian. It's just the way it is, so
> I have found it.

I never have before.  It's always 'just worked'.  Haven't had a new 
laptop for some time, though.

> 
> Try alsamixer and press F6 and if you have the option of a couple of
> sound cards try each one. But it may not stick if you reboot.

Done & done ... only 'default' and 'HDA Intel PCH' available (and "enter 
device name")

> 
> Try pulseaudio, you don't always need to use pavucontrol, that works
> sometimes but after a reboot it also may fail. Then uninstall it and try
> again without and that may work.

I've often noticed recommendations to uninstall pulseaudio but never seen 
a case where it has been reported to work :)  apt-get purge pulseaudio 
wants to take gnome & lots of other stuff with it :((

> 
> Sometimes your headphone jack works and sometimes it doesn't so you play
> around with alsamixer and pulseaudio and you can possibly get it
> working. I haven't been able to recently.

And so it goes ..

> 
> It's really, try everything till you hit on the combination that works
> and depending what audio package you use, you may also have to select
> the audio function to get the sound to work. VLC has heaps and you just
> work through them till one works. One will probably work?
> 
> Or you may plug in a USB stick
  
What is this?

and get a dialogue up that asks you what
> you want to do with the sound configuration, various options. All a bit
> hit and miss.
> 
> I've never had sound working constantly no matter what brand laptop or
> sound card is in the machine. If I want to listen to music or speech on
> a video, always have to fiddle to get it working. Done it for so many
> years now it has become automagic.
> 
> Probably not much help.

No, in fact, but I'm nonetheless grateful you made the effort.  Thx again.
D2 

> 
> Charlie

Re: Root account blocked

[Himanshu Shekhar]

This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to data theft.
Following the above steps, anyone having physical access to the device by
any means (which is more likely in case of mobile devices), could gain root
access and do whatever one wants to do with the system as well as the data.
One solution suggested to me was to set a BIOS password. That's good.

I would like to know that is there any way once you forget your BIOS
password.

Regards
Himanshu Shekhar

Re: Move an application window to a different desktop (Jessie, KDE 4.14.2)

[Thierry Chatelet]

On 19/11/2015 15:01, Keith Christian wrote:

There are five Konsole windows on the initial desktop.  I want to move
two of them to the next desktop.  The only control I can find is the
selector button in the upper left corner whose tooltip is either "On
all desktops" or when clicked, "Not on all desktops."

In previous KDE versions it seems there was an option somewhere to
"move this application to a different desktop" or similar.

A few questions that I haven't found in web searches or in KDE online help:

1. How to move the two Konsole windows to the next desktop (it appears
there are only two at this point.)  I've tried dragging them in
various directions but that doesn't work.

2. After someone replies with how do move these two Konsole windows to
the next desktop, what's the procedure to move one or both of them
back to the "main" desktop?

3. How to create an additional desktop if desired?  How to remove them?

4. How to show the identifying info for the current desktop?  Is it
"desktop #1" or something else?

Thanks.

Keith



Which version of KDE are you running?

Re: Adobe Flash

[moxalt]

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:34:38 +, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Wednesday 18 November 2015 19:24:31 moxalt wrote:
> > > The OP is currently watching the
> > > news on Doze.  Hardly more secure than flash  
> >
> > And OP should do neither.  
> 
> That's a bit arrogant - saying that other people shouldn't watch the news on 
> their computers because you would choose not to do so.
> 
> Lisi

I don't think advocating that others should follow certain ethical principles
is at all arrogant. What you're accusing me of is telling others to reject
non-free software because I do so. This is not true. I think people in general
should not use proprietary software, and I comply by this ethical principle. In
what way is recommending that others should do the same arrogant?

For instance, I hold that people should not kill each other needlessly. I
comply by this principle too, and do not kill people. In what way is
recommending to others that they follow this principle arrogant?

[OT] Experiencia con la navegación privada en Firefox

[Camaleón]

Hola,

Desde que actualicé a Firefox 42.0, había notado que al cerrar el 
navegador me decía que no se había cerrado correctamente y que si quería 
enviar el informe de fallos (lo típico cuando Firefox se queda 
enganchado), el problema es que cada vez me aparecía ese mensaje con más 
frecuencia, varias veces al día lo cual es un poco molesto.

Ya tenía una vaga idea de dónde podía estar el origen problema porque no 
era la primera vez que me pasaba algo parecido aunque antes el error más 
común era al abrir el navegador y no al cerrarlo, que se quedaba 
enganchada una instancia anterior y te avisaba de que había que cerrarla 
antes de inicia una nueva. 

Estos errores se producían por dos motivos, principalmente:

1/ Suelo abrir y cerrar el navegador al día alguna que otra vez, es 
decir, no soy de las que inicia sesión en el escritorio y lo deja abierto 
continuamente.

2/ Tenía configurada la opción de eliminar el historial, caché, cookies, 
etc... cuando se cerrara el navegador.

Esta combinación hacía que se produjeran esos mensajes molestos y lo 
comprobé al desactivar la opción de eliminar el historial: mano de santo. 
Pero no me gusta tener basura acumulada y no me terminaba de convencer 
esa opción.

Buscando alguna alternativa me encontré con la opción del modo privado, 
que nunca había activado pero al leer lo que hacía (simplemente no guarda 
nada, ningún dato en la caché) pensé que merecía la pena probarlo para no 
estar teniendo que eliminar los datos a mano cada "x" tiempo pero sabía 
que navegando en este modo podía tener problemas con algunas páginas web 
y las que principalmente me importaban eran las web de los bancos (inicio 
de sesión), paypal, ebay, tiendas online (pasarela de pagos, carrito de 
la compra), Gmail (aunque accedo poco vía web), periódicos... en fin, 
páginas "serias" porque redes sociales y eso no tengo pero la sorpresa ha 
sido que desde ya varios días que navego "privadamente" no he tenido 
problemas graves, aunque sí es verdad que alguna página (p. ej., la de El 
Mundo) me ha dado guerra (imágenes o vídeos que no cargan) pero poco más 
y lo que he ganado, además de mantener la caché del navegador limpita, 
que al fin y al cabo era lo que quería, es que veo menos publicidad (y no 
tengo ninguna extensión instalada como ad-block o similares) así que me 
ha sorprendido gratamente esta opción :-)

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Ric Moore]

On 11/19/2015 10:33 AM, David Parfitt wrote:

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

Thx for responding, Charlie.

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:30:03 +0100, Charlie wrote:


On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 + David Parfitt sent:


Hi all:
I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
ideas, please.


Sound is a never ending problem with Debian. It's just the way it is, so
I have found it.


I never have before.  It's always 'just worked'.  Haven't had a new
laptop for some time, though.



Try alsamixer and press F6 and if you have the option of a couple of
sound cards try each one. But it may not stick if you reboot.


Done & done ... only 'default' and 'HDA Intel PCH' available (and "enter
device name")



Try pulseaudio, you don't always need to use pavucontrol, that works
sometimes but after a reboot it also may fail. Then uninstall it and try
again without and that may work.


I've often noticed recommendations to uninstall pulseaudio but never seen
a case where it has been reported to work :)  apt-get purge pulseaudio
wants to take gnome & lots of other stuff with it :((



Sometimes your headphone jack works and sometimes it doesn't so you play
around with alsamixer and pulseaudio and you can possibly get it
working. I haven't been able to recently.


And so it goes ..


For what it is worth, I have both pulse and my user ric added to the 
audio group in /etc/group. Trouble shooting with a shotgun again. 
Sometimes I get lucky! Ric


--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: Fwd: [gilug] [premsa] Nova jornada de programari lliure, aquest dissabte

[Narcis Garcia]

En aquest lloc de ben segur que trobareu aparcament, però hi ha més de
600 metres a peu, primer direcció sud i després direcció oest fins
arribar al local:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.9829=2.8096#map=16/41.9829/2.8096



__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.

El 19/11/15 a les 16:51, Mònica Ramírez Arceda ha escrit:
> Robert Marsellés  writes:
> 
>> Hola,
>>
>> On 17/11/15 22:55, Eloi wrote:
>>> El 16/11/15 a les 22:00, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:

 Aquest dissabte 21 de novembre fem una trobada conjunta la /Comunitat
 d'usuaris de Debian de parla catalana/
  i el /Girona Linux Users
 Group/ (GiLUG ).

 Aquesta múltiple trobada ens permet veure'ns en viu, explicar
 batalletes, resoldre dubtes, etc. Adjuntem un petit cartellet per
 donar-li una mica de cara a la trobada i algunes activitans que farem.
 És benvinguda tota persona amb interès pel programari lliure.

 Aquí està la ubicació del local per aquest dissabte:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.97685=2.80340#map=19/41.97685/2.80340

>>>
>>> Com arribar a Girona:
>>>
>>>
>>> Circular amb cotxe per Girona és complicat, i trobar aparcament encara
>>> ho és més.
>>>
>>> Si veniu del sud o de l'oest via C-25 la millor opció és l'AP-7/A-2
>>> sortint per Girona Sud, a la primera rotonda després del peatge seguir
>>> cap a l'esquerra direcció Salt, tirar recte fins al final i després cap
>>> a la dreta pel carrer Major, que a Girona és Santa Eugènia.
>>>
>>
>> Gràcies per la info. Jo sóc dels que ha de venir amb vehicle. Per cert,
>> vinc sol des de les Terres de Ponent. Si algú li fes gràcia anar a la
>> trobada i està a la vora de la A-2 (fins a Cervera) + C-25 però li fa
>> peresa conduir o no té cap altra opció, que m'ho digui i el recullo.
> 
> Jo també aniré amb cotxe des de l'Alt Congost, també puc compartir cotxe
> si algú és de la zona (tot i que jo tornaré després de
> dinar). M'encantaria anar amb transport públic, però la combinació és
> inviable :(
> 
> No sé si es va comentar en algun altre correu, però tot i que sigui
> difícil, on ens recomaneu aparcar?
> 
> Salut!
> 

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:40:02 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 10:38 +, David Parfitt wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
>> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
>> online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
>> ideas,
>> please.
> [...]
>> 
>> daud@debian:~$ uname -a Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
>> 3.16.7-ckt17-1 (2015-09-26)
>> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> 
> [...]
>> 
>> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel
>> Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio [8086:a170] (rev 31)
> 
> From the above, I would guess that it just isn't supported. Grab a live
> cd/usb from something that uses a very recent kernel and see if you get
> sound.
> 
> If so, you need to either try a more recent kernel, or maybe even run
> testing.

Thx Sven.
I was coming to that conclusion myself, but was hoping upon hope that I 
had just missed something.  It also means, I suppose I have to read up on 
the vagaries of UEFI & installing/running second distros.  Debian was 
straightforward - it even thought to warn me that it wasn't a good idea 
to overwrite the EFI partitiion :)  
Old dogs :(
Regards
Daud2

info

[Thabit Omar bin madhi]

Dear Mr. 
hope all the best for you and your team 

I am one of the users of the best OS debian , I am living in Saudi Arabia 
and I helped a lot of people my friends and every one near from my work to 
install and try it as a second OS , because you know here in our market , 
Microsoft is every thing here , but when they try Debian they always tell me it 
is very nice OS , but they have a programs needed in their work and must to use 
microsoft to work the programs anyway I hope the Debain to be the No. 1 in my 
country , the question is : 
Do I proceed to let the people try this OS or what can I do?

Thanks 
  

Re: Adobe Flash

[Celejar]

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 16:33:55 +0100
Siard  wrote:

...

> BTW: the version of youtube-dl in jessie is not recent enough, so it
> won't work. Instead of an 'apt-get install youtube-dl' in jessie you'd
> better download and install it from https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
> Later, run an occasional 'youtube-dl -U' to keep it up to date.

Additionally, in my experience, the version in Sid generally installs
fine on a stable system - it really doesn't have much in the way of
dependencies.

Celejar

Re: Should I report this bug with reportbug?

[Darac Marjal]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 01:16:58PM +0100, David Cimadevilla wrote:

I have installed solydk, a debian jessie based distro. In the latest 
update one of the installed packages messed up all my kde/qt apps.


This package comes from debian jessie security updates repository. 
Installing the previous version of the package the issue goes away.


Since extrictily I am not a debian user, should I report this bug with 
reportbug?


Ideally, yes.

If Solydk is a derivative of debian, then good practice says that it 
should maintain its own bugtracker and configure reportbug to send bug 
reports there. If the Solydk developers determine that the bug is NOT 
due to their modifications, they can opt to forward the bug to their 
"upstream" project (i.e. Debian) or perhaps to the originator of the 
package (i.e. the original developer).


You should check the configuration of reportbug, though. If you're 
running Solydk, you're not running Debian, so the bug may well not be 
relevant to Debian.




These are my repos:

  deb http://repository.solydxk.com solydxk main upstream 
import deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free 
deb http://security.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non-free deb 
http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free




Is this the accepted configuration for Solydk, or have you added 
Debian's repositories yourself? This seems like a recipe for trouble to 
me. Solydk has, presumably, made modifications to packages - at the very 
least, adding their own branding. If you then pull in a debian package 
as a "security update", it won't honour those modifications and there is 
a definite risk of breaking the system.


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Move an application window to a different desktop (Jessie, KDE 4.14.2)

[Keith Christian]

There are five Konsole windows on the initial desktop.  I want to move
two of them to the next desktop.  The only control I can find is the
selector button in the upper left corner whose tooltip is either "On
all desktops" or when clicked, "Not on all desktops."

In previous KDE versions it seems there was an option somewhere to
"move this application to a different desktop" or similar.

A few questions that I haven't found in web searches or in KDE online help:

1. How to move the two Konsole windows to the next desktop (it appears
there are only two at this point.)  I've tried dragging them in
various directions but that doesn't work.

2. After someone replies with how do move these two Konsole windows to
the next desktop, what's the procedure to move one or both of them
back to the "main" desktop?

3. How to create an additional desktop if desired?  How to remove them?

4. How to show the identifying info for the current desktop?  Is it
"desktop #1" or something else?

Thanks.

Keith

Re: info

[Darac Marjal]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:46:52PM +0300, Thabit Omar bin madhi wrote:


Dear Mr.


No need to exclude people :)



hope all the best for you and your team

I am one of the users of the best OS debian , I am living in Saudi 
Arabia and I helped a lot of people my friends and every one near from 
my work to install and try it as a second OS , because you know here in 
our market , Microsoft is every thing here , but when they try Debian 
they always tell me it is very nice OS , but they have a programs 
needed in their work and must to use microsoft to work the programs 
anyway I hope the Debain to be the No. 1 in my country , the question 
is : Do I proceed to let the people try this OS or what can I do?


I would suggest the following, in order:

Try to find an alternative program which provides the *functionality* 
they require. Do they need to open Microsoft Word documents?  
LibreOffice can do that. Do they want Photoshop? Gimp is a very good art 
program. Basically, work out WHY they want the program they are asking 
for.


Next, if the only suitable program is a Windows program, investigate 
whether it will work with WINE. WINE is a compatibility layer between 
Windows programs and Linux and can run most well-programmed 
applications.


Finally, if that doesn't work you can either A) admit defeat and let 
them go back to Windows or B) write a Linux-compatible application 
yourself :)




Thanks


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Re: Root account blocked

[Dan Ritter]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:01:41PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to data theft.
> Following the above steps, anyone having physical access to the device by
> any means (which is more likely in case of mobile devices), could gain root
> access and do whatever one wants to do with the system as well as the data.
> One solution suggested to me was to set a BIOS password. That's good.
> 
> I would like to know that is there any way once you forget your BIOS
> password.

Yes. There will be a jumper on the motherboard that you can
connect to cause the NVRAM where the BIOS password is stored
to forget itself completely.

In some machines, a battery is removed simultaneously or instead
of using the jumper.

-dsr-

Re: Desconexiones del USB con el kernel 4.2

[Camaleón]

El Thu, 19 Nov 2015 08:19:25 +0100, Josu Lazkano escribió:

> El día 16 de noviembre de 2015, 18:32, Camaleón  escribió:

(...)

>>> El problema que tengo es que el USB del SAI se me desconecta
>>> constantemente:
>>>
>>> # tail -n 20 /var/log/syslog
>>> Nov 16 17:52:21 servidor kernel: [378450.893207] usb 4-5: new low-speed USB 
>>> device number 119 using ohci-pci
>>> Nov 16 17:52:21 servidor kernel: [378451.062333] usb 4-5: New USB device 
>>> found, idVendor=0665, idProduct=5161
>>> Nov 16 17:52:21 servidor kernel: [378451.062345] usb 4-5: New USB device 
>>> strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
>>> Nov 16 17:52:21 servidor kernel: [378451.062352] usb 4-5: Product: USB to 
>>> Serial
>>> Nov 16 17:52:21 servidor kernel: [378451.062358] usb 4-5: Manufacturer: 
>>> INNO TECH
>>> Nov 16 17:52:21 servidor kernel: [378451.077138] hid-generic 
>>> 0003:0665:5161.82E4: hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID v1.00 Device [INNO TECH USB 
>>> to Serial] on usb-:00:12.0-5/input0
>>> Nov 16 17:52:31 servidor kernel: [378460.445921] usb 4-5: USB disconnect, 
>>> device number 119
>>
>> (...)
>>
>>> Antes de la actualizacion no me pasa, ¿que puede ser?
>>>
>>> La verdad que es un poco raro, hasta ahora a funciona bien.
>>
>> ¿Estás usando algún programa de monitorización para el SAI (NUT)? Si es
>> así, comprueba que hayas iniciado el servicio y los drivers asociados
>> a tu unidad correctamente.
>>
>> También podrías probar a conectar el SAI en otro puerto USB o usar un
>> cable distinto (que sea para el SAI, eso sí, ya que dependiendo del
>> fabricante suelen usar una configuración de los pines distinta de los
>> cable USB estándar).
>>
> 
> Gracias,
> 
> he probado a cambiar el cable y poner en el mismo puerto, pero nada.

¿Y has probado lo otro?

> Puede que este afectado por este bug?
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=805168

Bueno, eso lo tienes fácil de adivinar conectando cualquier otro chisme 
USB a alguno de los puertos USB del equipo. Si aparece el mismo mensaje, 
obviamente ya no se trata del SAI sino que es un error generalizado y sí,
apuntaría a un problema del kernel. Conviene que sigas ese bug a ver qué
le responden, los mantenedores del kernel de Debian suelen ser muy majos 
y responden rápido y bien :-)

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Move an application window to a different desktop (Jessie, KDE 4.14.2)

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

> selector button in the upper left corner whose tooltip is either "On
> all desktops" or when clicked, "Not on all desktops."
> [...]
> 1. How to move the two Konsole windows to the next desktop (it appears
> there are only two at this point.)  I've tried dragging them in
> various directions but that doesn't work.

Have you tried "On all desktops",
then switched desktops,
and then set back to "Not on all desktops" ?

(My fvwm2, windows have a "+" button which controls "stickiness".
 I prefer above method over dragging windows through the desktop
 walls, because the window retains its relative position within
 each desktop.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: traceroute / iptables

[honeyshell]

oui dans resolv.conf
à lire : http://debian-facile.org/doc:systeme:resolv.conf

Re: [OT] Evitar deadlock en mysql

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:24:30 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:

> El día 18 de noviembre de 2015, 17:29, Camaleón 
> escribió:
>> El Wed, 18 Nov 2015 17:07:35 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:
>>
>>> Buenas, he estado revisando las estadísticas de innodb de alguno de
>>> nuestros servidores y me he encontrado con deadlocks en uno de
>>> ellos...

(...)

>>> Mi pregunta es, de la parte de sistemas hay alguna forma de poder
>>> evitarlo? Creo que la solución pasa por arreglarlo prográmaticamente,
>>> si detecta el error del deadlock, reintentarlo otra vez.
>>>
>>> Deadlock se produce cuando una transaccion espera por los recursos
>>> utilizados por otra transacción que a su vez espera por los recursos
>>> de otra.
>>>
>>> Consejos?
>>
>> Pregunta a Google :-)
>>
>> How to debug InnoDB lock waits
>> http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2007/09/18/how-to-debug-innodb-lock-waits/
> 
> Lo estoy monitorizando con pt-deadlock-logger, guardo los deadlock en
> bbdd, también se pueden guardar en log.
> 
> Necesito primero saber por qué es para poder solucionarlo.

¿Cómo que "por qué es"? :-)

Tú mismo has dicho por qué se produce (espera de recursos para formalizar 
una transacción) y como ya has leído, esas situaciones son inevitables 
(además de no ser exclusivas de las BBDD). Cuando un proceso está 
esperando recursos es porque no los tiene disponibles (llámese ciclos de 
CPU, memoria, escritura en disco...). 

Piensa en redimensionar el sistema (hardware/software) que usas como 
servidor de BBDD, cambiar el tipo/paradigma de BBDD (relacional → nosql), 
reducir el tamaño de las transacciones (menor carga de datos, consultas 
más ágiles), o como bien dices, cambiar el API/sistema de consulta o 
gestión actual de la BBDD, etc...

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:00:02 +0100, Ric Moore wrote:

> 
> For what it is worth, I have both pulse and my user ric added to the
> audio group in /etc/group. Trouble shooting with a shotgun again.
> Sometimes I get lucky! Ric

Thx Ric

Yes I forgot to include that info:

daud@debian:~$ groups
daud cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin scanner 
bluetooth pulse pulse-access

Regards
Daud2

Re: Root account blocked

[Linux-Fan]

[Thu, 19 Nov 2015 09:20:03 -0500] Dan Ritter 
wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:01:41PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to
> > data theft. Following the above steps, anyone having physical
> > access to the device by any means (which is more likely in case of
> > mobile devices), could gain root access and do whatever one wants
> > to do with the system as well as the data. One solution suggested
> > to me was to set a BIOS password. That's good.
> > 
> > I would like to know that is there any way once you forget your BIOS
> > password.
> 
> Yes. There will be a jumper on the motherboard that you can
> connect to cause the NVRAM where the BIOS password is stored
> to forget itself completely.
> 
> In some machines, a battery is removed simultaneously or instead
> of using the jumper.
> 
> -dsr-

Be careful, because this is not true for all BIOS-implementations. I
have seen HP computers where the BIOS can be locked permanently without
reset (unless the motherboard is exchanged which will mean there is
another BIOS). I am not quite sure, if this also applies to the
passwords which are required to make the system boot, because I have
never enabled such. Either way: Consult the documentation first or just
try it out.

HTH
Linux-Fan

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