Re: Microfono funciona pero no puede grabar en editores o grabadores

[Debianero]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 07:56:43PM -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto wrote:
> El 09/05/16 a las 19:17, Debianero escribió:
> >On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 05:35:33PM -0500, debian...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> >>On 2016-05-07 17:23, Santiago José López Borrazás wrote:
> >>>El 08/05/16 a las 00:15, debian...@openmailbox.org escribió:
> >>>(...)
> Asi que fui a alsamixer, todo normal, puedo subir y bajar el volumen de
> la
> entrada del microfono, e incluso del microfono que trae integrado. Todo
> funciona bien.
> >>>(...)
> >>>
> >>>En el alsamixer, debes pulsar la barra espaciadora sobre el micrófono y
> >>>reconocerás que tendrás para grabar y todo...¿o no?
> >>
> >>Otra raya mas al tigreee...
> >>
> >>Muchas gracias por la respuesta, me preguntaba siempre ¿Porque salen los
> >>guiones medios... ya se porque...
> >>
> >>Asunto SOLUCIONADO
> >
> >Pues me da pena decirlo nuevamente, reitero que el asunto crei que estaba 
> >solucionado, bueno, esta a medias. Ya funciona el microfono, pero unicamente 
> >graba el microfono que trae intregrado la notebook. Pero de la entrada 
> >analogica nada que puede grabar, de hecho conecto el microfono y nada. Ya 
> >use un manos libres para determinar si en algun momento estaba mal el 
> >splitter y se escucha el microfono del manos libres, pero no graba.
> >
> >
> >>Muchas gracias de verdad, si en algun momento puedo ayudarte, sin duda lo
> >>hare.
> >>
> >>Pasa excelente tarde.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>No te doy más pistas, porque mucha gente no se da cuenta de ello...
> >>
> >
> Entraste al mezclado de Pulseaudio?
> Allí vas a la parte de grabación y seleccionás
> mic 2 o como se llame.
> No recuerdo ahora como los denomina porque
> no estoy con un equipo con pulseaudio.

No hubo necesidad, lo hice con pavucontrol tal como me lo dijo Henry Linux.

De hecho ya publique la solucion al problema.

Agradezco tus atenciones para con esta duda.

Estoy a tus ordenes.

Gracias

> 
> Saludos
> 
> -- 
> Sergio Bessopeanetto
> Buenos Aires - Argentina
> 

Re: recurrent soft/hard lockup on CPU

[Seb]

On Sat, 7 May 2016 17:55:08 -0300,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  wrote:

> On Fri, 06 May 2016, Seb wrote:
>> May 5 22:48:19 otaria kernel: [ 6706.415698] Hardware name: LENOVO
>> 10FWCTO1WW/SKYBAY, BIOS FWKT38A 01/28/2016

> Please update that BIOS.  It is too old (and no, I am *not* joking).

> People, as a rule of thumb: if it has an Intel Skylake processor or
> newer (6th gen Core, for example), consider updating the BIOS *first*
> should you get any sort of crash, kernel oops, or other really weird
> behavior.

> Unfortunately, there is a good chance the firmware update won't fix
> this particular problem.  But it will fix a few others that cause
> unpredictable behavior.

So far so good (knock on wood); I think this has solved the problem for
me.  It has been two days now that I don't see any kind of lockup in the
logs, which are now much smaller in size!

Thank you,

-- 
Seb

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[David Wright]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 23:22:44 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> On Mon 09 May 2016 at 23:45:18 +0200, deloptes wrote:
> > Pol Hallen wrote:
> > >> Unless I am misunderstanding the question,
> > > I need to print using 192.168.1.10 (server) not directly by network 
> > > printer

> > In /etc/cups/client.conf
> > 
> > set the ServerName
> > 
> > ServerName 192.168.1.10
> > 
> > try lpstat -a
> > 
> > $  lpstat -a
> > HP_LaserJet_5L accepting requests since Wed 04 May 2016 10:31:02 PM CEST
> 
> The OP talks about *"clients"*. Would your advice stay the same if there
> was a 1000 of them?

Your first and last comments were too terse for me to understand. I
think you might be implying here that the solution doesn't scale well.
Can you explain the difference between the purported solution above
and your earlier "Set up the clients to discover the server. Print.",
ie how "Set up"?

Cheers,
David.

Re: Microfono funciona pero no puede grabar en editores o grabadores

[Debianero]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 06:25:12PM -0500, Debianero wrote:
> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 05:19:41PM -0500, Debianero wrote:
> > On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 11:15:00AM -0300, Henry Linux wrote:
> > > El día 7 de mayo de 2016, 19:15,   escribió:
> > > > Listeros:
> > > >
> > > > Si recuerdan, instale Debian en una Lenovo IdeaPad 100. Esta tiene 
> > > > audifonos
> > > > y microfono en una sola entrada (como manos libres) no tiene otra 
> > > > entrada
> > > > mas.
> > > >
> > > > Me la trajeron porque estan intentando grabar (compraron un splitter 
> > > > para
> > > > separar la salida de audifonos y microfono) metiendo señal por la 
> > > > entrada
> > > > del microfono.
> > > >
> > > > Esta es una tarea comun, asi que bien "fregon" dije: -Ahorita lo
> > > > activamos...
> > > >
> > > > Vaya sorpresa, el microfono si funciona, lo escuchamos mendiante los
> > > > altavoces de la Notebook, mediante los audifonos, pero no puede grabar. 
> > > > Lo
> > > > intente con arecord, lo intente con audacity y el microfono me aparece
> > > > desactivado (no se puede mover el fader virtual).
> > > >
> > > > Asi que fui a alsamixer, todo normal, puedo subir y bajar el volumen de 
> > > > la
> > > > entrada del microfono, e incluso del microfono que trae integrado. Todo
> > > > funciona bien.
> > > >
> > > > Fui a la configuracion de Audacity, seleccione la tarjeta analogica como
> > > > entrada de microfono, he realizado varias pruebas y... nada.
> > > >
> > > > Al revisar la configuracion de Audacity verifique nuevamente que este
> > > > activada la tarjeta y si, esta activada. Tambien el dispositivo de 
> > > > entrada y
> > > > es el mismo que es el siguiente:
> > > >
> > > > Reproduccion: HDA Intel PCH: ALC233 Analog (hw:0,0)
> > > > Grabacion: HDA Intel PCH: ALC233 Analog (hw:0,0)
> > > >
> > > > Como podran darse cuenta, es el mismo ¿Sera ese el error?. Supongo que
> > > > quizas deberia haber una pequeña diferencia en el apartado hw quizas en
> > > > grabacion deberia decir hw:0,1 o quizas este bien.
> > > >
> > > > Dije, ¡No hay problema, a fin de cuentas tienen una mezcladora y pense 
> > > > en
> > > > meter señal por medio de usb!. Grande sorpresa, ¡de inmediato comenzo a
> > > > grabar!. Pense para mis adentros, ¡otro problema mas resuelto, pero al
> > > > revisar la grabacion... se metia un ruido!.
> > > >
> > > > Revise el CODE de audio y es el PCM2903B...
> > > >
> > > > Asi que me fui a internet... y (no recuerdo en que parte del documento 
> > > > del
> > > > fabricante dice que trae ese error).
> > > >
> > > > Asi que ¿Alguna idea para buscar la solucion? ¡Ya sea por analogico o 
> > > > quizas
> > > > cambiar el codec para evitar el ruido mediante usb?.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > no se si en debian esta la aplicacion pavucontrol
> > > 
> > > fijate yo la uso en ubuntu y podes configurar la placa de sonido
> > > desde ahi, te permite elegir mas funciones que desde alsamixer
> > > una de ella es que podes elegir que placa o que entrada de mic
> > > va a uno u otro programa (editores de audio o reproductores de video o 
> > > sonido)
> > > 
> > > yo lo uso mucho en ubuntu tengo dos placas de sonido y me es practico
> > 
> > Ok vere si con ese ya puedo grabar. Instalo y aviso.
> 
> ¡ahora si, asunto SOLUCIONADO!
> 
> Efectivamente, con pavucontrol, pude descativar el microfono interno y al 
> desactivarlo, ya sirvio la entrada del microfono (del manos libres) y ya se 
> pudo grabar perfectamente.

Por cierto, supongo que debe haber algun archivo de configuracion de audio que 
permita hacer algo como ON/OFF sin necesidad de instalar pavucontrol.

> 
> Lo malo es que instalo pulseaudio (no me gusta). Despues de eso, lo 
> desinstale, tanto pulse audio como pavucontrol y ya se pudo grabar y sin 
> problemas.
> 
> Agradezco mucho tu atencion y tu mensaje, que por cierto hasta ahora me doy 
> cuenta que fue privado, sugiero que para que todos aprendamos, lo hagas a la 
> comunidad.
> 
> Gracias, de verdad.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Gracias
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > slds
> > > 
> > > Henry
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Gracias
> > > >
> > 
> 

Re: Microfono funciona pero no puede grabar en editores o grabadores

[Debianero]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 05:19:41PM -0500, Debianero wrote:
> On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 11:15:00AM -0300, Henry Linux wrote:
> > El día 7 de mayo de 2016, 19:15,   escribió:
> > > Listeros:
> > >
> > > Si recuerdan, instale Debian en una Lenovo IdeaPad 100. Esta tiene 
> > > audifonos
> > > y microfono en una sola entrada (como manos libres) no tiene otra entrada
> > > mas.
> > >
> > > Me la trajeron porque estan intentando grabar (compraron un splitter para
> > > separar la salida de audifonos y microfono) metiendo señal por la entrada
> > > del microfono.
> > >
> > > Esta es una tarea comun, asi que bien "fregon" dije: -Ahorita lo
> > > activamos...
> > >
> > > Vaya sorpresa, el microfono si funciona, lo escuchamos mendiante los
> > > altavoces de la Notebook, mediante los audifonos, pero no puede grabar. Lo
> > > intente con arecord, lo intente con audacity y el microfono me aparece
> > > desactivado (no se puede mover el fader virtual).
> > >
> > > Asi que fui a alsamixer, todo normal, puedo subir y bajar el volumen de la
> > > entrada del microfono, e incluso del microfono que trae integrado. Todo
> > > funciona bien.
> > >
> > > Fui a la configuracion de Audacity, seleccione la tarjeta analogica como
> > > entrada de microfono, he realizado varias pruebas y... nada.
> > >
> > > Al revisar la configuracion de Audacity verifique nuevamente que este
> > > activada la tarjeta y si, esta activada. Tambien el dispositivo de 
> > > entrada y
> > > es el mismo que es el siguiente:
> > >
> > > Reproduccion: HDA Intel PCH: ALC233 Analog (hw:0,0)
> > > Grabacion: HDA Intel PCH: ALC233 Analog (hw:0,0)
> > >
> > > Como podran darse cuenta, es el mismo ¿Sera ese el error?. Supongo que
> > > quizas deberia haber una pequeña diferencia en el apartado hw quizas en
> > > grabacion deberia decir hw:0,1 o quizas este bien.
> > >
> > > Dije, ¡No hay problema, a fin de cuentas tienen una mezcladora y pense en
> > > meter señal por medio de usb!. Grande sorpresa, ¡de inmediato comenzo a
> > > grabar!. Pense para mis adentros, ¡otro problema mas resuelto, pero al
> > > revisar la grabacion... se metia un ruido!.
> > >
> > > Revise el CODE de audio y es el PCM2903B...
> > >
> > > Asi que me fui a internet... y (no recuerdo en que parte del documento del
> > > fabricante dice que trae ese error).
> > >
> > > Asi que ¿Alguna idea para buscar la solucion? ¡Ya sea por analogico o 
> > > quizas
> > > cambiar el codec para evitar el ruido mediante usb?.
> > 
> > 
> > no se si en debian esta la aplicacion pavucontrol
> > 
> > fijate yo la uso en ubuntu y podes configurar la placa de sonido
> > desde ahi, te permite elegir mas funciones que desde alsamixer
> > una de ella es que podes elegir que placa o que entrada de mic
> > va a uno u otro programa (editores de audio o reproductores de video o 
> > sonido)
> > 
> > yo lo uso mucho en ubuntu tengo dos placas de sonido y me es practico
> 
> Ok vere si con ese ya puedo grabar. Instalo y aviso.

¡ahora si, asunto SOLUCIONADO!

Efectivamente, con pavucontrol, pude descativar el microfono interno y al 
desactivarlo, ya sirvio la entrada del microfono (del manos libres) y ya se 
pudo grabar perfectamente.

Lo malo es que instalo pulseaudio (no me gusta). Despues de eso, lo desinstale, 
tanto pulse audio como pavucontrol y ya se pudo grabar y sin problemas.

Agradezco mucho tu atencion y tu mensaje, que por cierto hasta ahora me doy 
cuenta que fue privado, sugiero que para que todos aprendamos, lo hagas a la 
comunidad.

Gracias, de verdad.


> 
> Gracias
> 
> > 
> > 
> > slds
> > 
> > Henry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Gracias
> > >
> 

Re: Microfono funciona pero no puede grabar en editores o grabadores

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 09/05/16 a las 19:17, Debianero escribió:

On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 05:35:33PM -0500, debian...@openmailbox.org wrote:

On 2016-05-07 17:23, Santiago José López Borrazás wrote:

El 08/05/16 a las 00:15, debian...@openmailbox.org escribió:
(...)

Asi que fui a alsamixer, todo normal, puedo subir y bajar el volumen de
la
entrada del microfono, e incluso del microfono que trae integrado. Todo
funciona bien.

(...)

En el alsamixer, debes pulsar la barra espaciadora sobre el micrófono y
reconocerás que tendrás para grabar y todo...¿o no?


Otra raya mas al tigreee...

Muchas gracias por la respuesta, me preguntaba siempre ¿Porque salen los
guiones medios... ya se porque...

Asunto SOLUCIONADO


Pues me da pena decirlo nuevamente, reitero que el asunto crei que estaba 
solucionado, bueno, esta a medias. Ya funciona el microfono, pero unicamente 
graba el microfono que trae intregrado la notebook. Pero de la entrada 
analogica nada que puede grabar, de hecho conecto el microfono y nada. Ya use 
un manos libres para determinar si en algun momento estaba mal el splitter y se 
escucha el microfono del manos libres, pero no graba.



Muchas gracias de verdad, si en algun momento puedo ayudarte, sin duda lo
hare.

Pasa excelente tarde.



No te doy más pistas, porque mucha gente no se da cuenta de ello...





Entraste al mezclado de Pulseaudio?
Allí vas a la parte de grabación y seleccionás
mic 2 o como se llame.
No recuerdo ahora como los denomina porque
no estoy con un equipo con pulseaudio.

Saludos

--
Sergio Bessopeanetto
Buenos Aires - Argentina

[testing] habillage des fenêtres sous Gnome

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Bonjour,

Depuis 2 ou 3 jours, j'ai un habillage de certaines fenêtres
(gnome-terminal, sylpheed par ex.) étrange avec les coins hauts carrés au lieu
d'être arrondis comme sur d'autres fenêtres (nautilus par ex.).
Au début j'ai pensé à un problème avec les appli gtk2 mais vu que
gnome-terminal est gtk3 ...
Auriez-vous une idée de la raison ?

A+

Gaëtan

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 09 May 2016 23:38:02 Liam O'Toole wrote:
> Therefore openjdk-7-* is not regarded as an
> upgrade (in the Debian packaging sense) over openjdk-6-*. Instead, they
> are different packages, and both can be installed at the same time.

Therein lies the rub - and the explanation.  Thank you.  Well, I don't like 
Java anyway!  One more black mark. :-(

Lisi

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 09 May 2016 23:38:02 Liam O'Toole wrote:
> The openjdk-6-* packages are now obsolete and unsupported
> (both by Debian and upstream), and will receive no further security
> updates.

Yes, I have discovered that!!!

Lisi

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2016-05-09, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Monday 09 May 2016 22:37:06 Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2016-05-09, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>> > It is also a pity that Wheezy LTS appears not to be a truly viable
>> > proposition for the desktop.
>>
>> True. The software versions are obviously quite old, and not all
>> packages are supported[1]. Previous LTS releases did not support
>> graphical web browsers; I don't know whether that is the case for
>> wheezy LTS too.
>>
>> > I still have jdk7 to sort out on three computers.  In Stable or
>> > newer jdk6 would surely have been removed for me by aptitude?
>>
>> No, obsolete packages such as openjdk-6-* are left untouched[2]. It
>> is up to you to remove them.
>>
>> 1: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using#Check_for_unsupported_packages
>> 2:
>> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.h
>>tml#obsolete
>
> You have shown that they are not removed in LTS, which I have just
> discovered, and that they are not removed on upgrade to the next
> version.  But, surely, normally when a newer version is installed
> automatically by aptitude, the older one is removed, unless you have
> been using aptitude safe-upgrade, when nothing is removed?  (Or, of
> course, unless you have got it pinned?)

The packaging of openjdk is done in such a way as to allow the parallel
installation of two or more such packages. To put it another way, the
major Java version is included in the package name, not the Debian
package version number. Therefore openjdk-7-* is not regarded as an
upgrade (in the Debian packaging sense) over openjdk-6-*. Instead, they
are different packages, and both can be installed at the same time. The
Debian alternatives system allows one to decide which is the system-wide
default Java.

The openjdk-6-* packages are now obsolete and unsupported
(both by Debian and upstream), and will receive no further security
updates.

-- 

Liam

Re: [HS] Questions pour une double installation de Debian et MS Windows

[Pascal Hambourg]

Il faut vraiment que tu fasses plus attention à tes marques de citation,
c'est de pire en pire, là on a l'impression que tes réponses sont en
fait des citations...

e Lpe a écrit :
>> Sois plus précis. Veux-tu dire que depuis Windows 8 seuls le format GPT
>> (pour le disque de boot) et l'amorçage UEFI sont supportés...
> 
> pas supportés mais obligatoires.

"Seuls supportés", ça revient au même que "obligatoire", non ?

Mais le message récapitulatif de Stéphane GARGOLY montre que le format
GPT n'est pas obligatoire puisqu'il déclare avoir installé Windows 10
sur un disque avec une partition étendue et des partitions logiques donc
au format MSDOS et non GPT. Donc ton affirmation était erronée dans tous
les cas.

>> Avec GNU/Linux, ça peut, même sur une machine antédiluvienne
> 
> Les limites du mbr sont des limites de plateforme (intel) et non d'un
> système d'exploitation.

Il n'était pas questions de MBR dans ta phrase à laquelle je répondais
et que je cite à nouveau :

>>> Sous Bios avec un os gnu linux ou Win 7 (à moins d'avoir une machine
>>> anté-diluvienne) tu peux très bien gérer des disque de 10 To mais en
>>> Gpt. Ce ne sera pas celui où est installé l'Os.

Comme on peut le lire, il était seulement question de BIOS et de GPT. Je
répète : GNU/Linux peut booter avec un BIOS sur un disque de 10 Tio au
format GPT.

> "> Fort de cela, il
>> est facile de choisir le système d'exploitation à lancer en activant
>> ou désactivant l'UEFI & Secureboot.
> 
> Non car pour GNU/Linux, le format du disque et le mode d'amorçage ne
> sont pas liés. MSDOS n'implique donc pas amorçage BIOS."
> 
> Et pourtant si, car c'est que j'utilise tous les jours pour booter mon
> laptop sous Debian ou Win8

Ce n'est pas parce que tu le fais de cette façon que c'est toujours vrai
ni que c'est la meilleure solution pour un multiboot. Devoir modifier
les paramètres d'amorçage du firmware pour changer de système, c'est
franchement lourd.

Problemas con kernel.

[alparkom .]

Buenas chicos, tengo un problema con el kernel de Debian Jessie.

El fallo surge cuando quito al portatil de suspención, y comienza a
sonar el DD como si estuviera haciendo corto circuito (y se pegó, dejó
de responder) por lo que apago el sistema y reinstalo el disco duro a
su posición original. Ahí todo funciona bién pero el sistema arranca
con el mensaje:

"The root filesystem on /dev/sda6 requires a manual fsck
Modprobe: module ehci-orion not found in modules.dep"

Y un poco mas abajo:

"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"

Luego, como ahí decía, procedí a analizar la partición "sda6" (de paso
analicé todas del mismo disco duro). Todo bien.

Intento iniciar el sistema y aparece un nuevo error:

"end kernel panic - not syncing to kill init! Exit code 0x7f00"

Leí por internet que era un problema de permisos en las particiones,
que ocurría luego de jugar con "chmod" pero antes de suspenderlo
funcionaba correctamente por lo que imagino es un problema del disco
duro (o lo fue hasta que lo analicé con fsck).
Otro que leí fué desmontar y volver a montar. Tampoco funcionó y
despues del reinicio se deberían automontar, no?

Ahora, con el último error, supongo que es un problema del kernel que
se dañó. Alguna solución que se les ocurra?

Estaba pensando en instalar otra versión del kernel y utilizar esta...
el problema está que no tengo como llegar a línea de comandos.

Y si inicio con la opción "init=/bin/sh", que dicen?
Vale!

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 23:45:18 +0200, deloptes wrote:

> Pol Hallen wrote:
> 
> >> Unless I am misunderstanding the question,
> > 
> > I need to print using 192.168.1.10 (server) not directly by network
> > printer
> > 
> > thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > Pol
> 
> Hi
> 
> In /etc/cups/client.conf
> 
> set the ServerName
> 
> ServerName 192.168.1.10
> 
> try lpstat -a
> 
> $  lpstat -a
> HP_LaserJet_5L accepting requests since Wed 04 May 2016 10:31:02 PM CEST

The OP talks about *"clients"*. Would your advice stay the same if there
was a 1000 of them?

Re: Microfono funciona pero no puede grabar en editores o grabadores

[Debianero]

On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 01:25:56PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> El Sat, 07 May 2016 17:15:28 -0500, debianero escribió:
> 
> (...)
> 
> > Al revisar la configuracion de Audacity verifique nuevamente que este 
> > activada la tarjeta y si, esta activada. Tambien el dispositivo de 
> > entrada y es el mismo que es el siguiente:
> > 
> > Reproduccion: HDA Intel PCH: ALC233 Analog (hw:0,0)
> > Grabacion: HDA Intel PCH: ALC233 Analog (hw:0,0)
> > 
> > Como podran darse cuenta, es el mismo ¿Sera ese el error?. Supongo que 
> > quizas deberia haber una pequeña diferencia en el apartado hw quizas en 
> > grabacion deberia decir hw:0,1 o quizas este bien.
> 
> (...)
> 
> Sobre esto, un apunte. Las tarjetas de sonido (tanto las integradas como 
> las dedicadas) tienen varias entradas (micro trasero, micro frontal) y 
> salidas (analógica, digital...). En fin, que un único dispositivo puede 
> reproducir y grabar por lo tanto es normal que el mismo chipset aparezca 
> en los dos campos.

Claro, pero ahora como elijo que grabe la frontal o la digital?.

De hecho ya hicimos pruebas y la calidad con la que graba mediante USB es 
maravillosa (excepto por el ruido que mete).

De todas maneras ya instale pavucontrol y veremos los resultados.




> 
> Saludos,
> 
> -- 
> Camaleón
> 

Re: Microfono funciona pero no puede grabar en editores o grabadores

[Debianero]

On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 11:15:00AM -0300, Henry Linux wrote:
> El día 7 de mayo de 2016, 19:15,   escribió:
> > Listeros:
> >
> > Si recuerdan, instale Debian en una Lenovo IdeaPad 100. Esta tiene audifonos
> > y microfono en una sola entrada (como manos libres) no tiene otra entrada
> > mas.
> >
> > Me la trajeron porque estan intentando grabar (compraron un splitter para
> > separar la salida de audifonos y microfono) metiendo señal por la entrada
> > del microfono.
> >
> > Esta es una tarea comun, asi que bien "fregon" dije: -Ahorita lo
> > activamos...
> >
> > Vaya sorpresa, el microfono si funciona, lo escuchamos mendiante los
> > altavoces de la Notebook, mediante los audifonos, pero no puede grabar. Lo
> > intente con arecord, lo intente con audacity y el microfono me aparece
> > desactivado (no se puede mover el fader virtual).
> >
> > Asi que fui a alsamixer, todo normal, puedo subir y bajar el volumen de la
> > entrada del microfono, e incluso del microfono que trae integrado. Todo
> > funciona bien.
> >
> > Fui a la configuracion de Audacity, seleccione la tarjeta analogica como
> > entrada de microfono, he realizado varias pruebas y... nada.
> >
> > Al revisar la configuracion de Audacity verifique nuevamente que este
> > activada la tarjeta y si, esta activada. Tambien el dispositivo de entrada y
> > es el mismo que es el siguiente:
> >
> > Reproduccion: HDA Intel PCH: ALC233 Analog (hw:0,0)
> > Grabacion: HDA Intel PCH: ALC233 Analog (hw:0,0)
> >
> > Como podran darse cuenta, es el mismo ¿Sera ese el error?. Supongo que
> > quizas deberia haber una pequeña diferencia en el apartado hw quizas en
> > grabacion deberia decir hw:0,1 o quizas este bien.
> >
> > Dije, ¡No hay problema, a fin de cuentas tienen una mezcladora y pense en
> > meter señal por medio de usb!. Grande sorpresa, ¡de inmediato comenzo a
> > grabar!. Pense para mis adentros, ¡otro problema mas resuelto, pero al
> > revisar la grabacion... se metia un ruido!.
> >
> > Revise el CODE de audio y es el PCM2903B...
> >
> > Asi que me fui a internet... y (no recuerdo en que parte del documento del
> > fabricante dice que trae ese error).
> >
> > Asi que ¿Alguna idea para buscar la solucion? ¡Ya sea por analogico o quizas
> > cambiar el codec para evitar el ruido mediante usb?.
> 
> 
> no se si en debian esta la aplicacion pavucontrol
> 
> fijate yo la uso en ubuntu y podes configurar la placa de sonido
> desde ahi, te permite elegir mas funciones que desde alsamixer
> una de ella es que podes elegir que placa o que entrada de mic
> va a uno u otro programa (editores de audio o reproductores de video o sonido)
> 
> yo lo uso mucho en ubuntu tengo dos placas de sonido y me es practico

Ok vere si con ese ya puedo grabar. Instalo y aviso.

Gracias

> 
> 
> slds
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> > Gracias
> >

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 21:49:17 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:

> >Set up the clients to discover the server. Print.
> 
> ehm... not it so easy: from client I see network printer (shared by server)
> but after installed it I can't print.
> 
> On client I see "printer not connected" and on the server no logs file.
> 
> I also checked iptables rules but I've same problem :-/
> 
> thanks for help!
> 
> PS: on server I use debian wheezy (testing on clients)

Please post the outputs of 'lpstat -t' on the server and a client.

Re: Microfono funciona pero no puede grabar en editores o grabadores

[Debianero]

On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 05:35:33PM -0500, debian...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> On 2016-05-07 17:23, Santiago José López Borrazás wrote:
> >El 08/05/16 a las 00:15, debian...@openmailbox.org escribió:
> >(...)
> >>Asi que fui a alsamixer, todo normal, puedo subir y bajar el volumen de
> >>la
> >>entrada del microfono, e incluso del microfono que trae integrado. Todo
> >>funciona bien.
> >(...)
> >
> >En el alsamixer, debes pulsar la barra espaciadora sobre el micrófono y
> >reconocerás que tendrás para grabar y todo...¿o no?
> 
> Otra raya mas al tigreee...
> 
> Muchas gracias por la respuesta, me preguntaba siempre ¿Porque salen los
> guiones medios... ya se porque...
> 
> Asunto SOLUCIONADO

Pues me da pena decirlo nuevamente, reitero que el asunto crei que estaba 
solucionado, bueno, esta a medias. Ya funciona el microfono, pero unicamente 
graba el microfono que trae intregrado la notebook. Pero de la entrada 
analogica nada que puede grabar, de hecho conecto el microfono y nada. Ya use 
un manos libres para determinar si en algun momento estaba mal el splitter y se 
escucha el microfono del manos libres, pero no graba.


> Muchas gracias de verdad, si en algun momento puedo ayudarte, sin duda lo
> hare.
> 
> Pasa excelente tarde.
> 
> >
> >No te doy más pistas, porque mucha gente no se da cuenta de ello...
> 

Re: [HS] Questions pour une double installation de Debian et MS Windows

[Pascal Hambourg]

Stéphane GARGOLY a écrit :
> 
> Par ailleurs, toujours dans mon même courriel, je me suis demandé s'il est 
> possible d'installer Windows sur une partition logique. Eh bien, il semble 
> que 
> cela ne soit pas possible

En fait il est possible d'installer Windows dans une partition logique,
mais il faut en plus une partition principale dans laquelle Windows
puisse installer son chargeur d'amorçage.

> Pour ceux qui se demanderaient sur la raison de la présence de la seconde 
> partition primaire et des 6 partitions logiques, eh bien, elles servent, 
> outre 
> une partition d'échange (en anglais, "swap"), pour les répertoires /var, 
> /tmp, 
> /home (pour Debian)...

Comme Vincent j'envisagerais l'utilisation de LVM plutôt que de créer de
nombreuses partitions.

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 09 May 2016 17:37:06 Liam O'Toole wrote:

> On 2016-05-09, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > It is also a pity that Wheezy LTS appears not to be a truly viable
> > proposition for the desktop.
>
> True. The software versions are obviously quite old, and not all
> packages are supported[1]. Previous LTS releases did not support
> graphical web browsers; I don't know whether that is the case for
> wheezy LTS too.

If you liked the older kde, then trinity is the old kde-3.5, forked, with 
all the known bugs fixed.  Google TDE. They have an active mailing list, 
and very active development if you've elected to use the r14 branch. I 
am, no surprises yet in about 9 months now.

> > I still have jdk7 to sort out on three computers.  In
> > Stable or newer jdk6 would surely have been removed for me by
> > aptitude?
>
> No, obsolete packages such as openjdk-6-* are left untouched[2]. It is
> up to you to remove them.
>
> 1: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using#Check_for_unsupported_packages
> 2:
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading
>.en.html#obsolete


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 09 May 2016 22:37:06 Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2016-05-09, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > It is also a pity that Wheezy LTS appears not to be a truly viable
> > proposition for the desktop.
>
> True. The software versions are obviously quite old, and not all
> packages are supported[1]. Previous LTS releases did not support
> graphical web browsers; I don't know whether that is the case for wheezy
> LTS too.
>
> > I still have jdk7 to sort out on three computers.  In
> > Stable or newer jdk6 would surely have been removed for me by aptitude?
>
> No, obsolete packages such as openjdk-6-* are left untouched[2]. It is
> up to you to remove them.
>
> 1: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using#Check_for_unsupported_packages
> 2:
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.h
>tml#obsolete

You have shown that they are not removed in LTS, which I have just discovered, 
and that they are not removed on upgrade to the next version.  But, surely, 
normally when a newer version is installed automatically by aptitude, the 
older one is removed, unless you have been using aptitude safe-upgrade, when 
nothing is removed?  (Or, of course, unless you have got it pinned?)

Lisi

Re: [HS] Questions pour une double installation de Debian et MS Windows

[Vincent Danjean]

  Bonjour,

Le 08/05/2016 18:12, Stéphane GARGOLY a écrit :
> Pour ceux qui se demanderaient sur la raison de la présence de la seconde 
> partition primaire et des 6 partitions logiques, eh bien, elles servent, 
> outre 
> une partition d'échange (en anglais, "swap"), pour les répertoires /var, 
> /tmp, 
> /home (pour Debian)... et, avec la dernière partition, pour un système de 
> fichiers de type NTFS qui a été créé dans un tout autre but (pour Windows 
> cette 
> fois-ci).

Pourquoi ne pas utiliser lvm2 pour ces différentes partitions linux ?
Il faut faire une grosse partition physique (PV) (ou même plusieurs si,
par exemple, on en récupère d'autre ensuite) qu'on assemble dans un
groupe (VG). Et dans ce VG, on crée autant de partition légère (LV)
que l'on souhaite. J'ai tendance alors à les sous dimensionner car
il est très facile ensuite de les agrandir (à chaud, sans redémarrer
le système, y compris pour la racine) :
# lvresize -L +2GiB /dev/vg-group/root
# resize2fs /dev/vg-group/root

L'intérêt de LVM2 par rapport aux partitions physiques, c'est la
possibilité de redimensionner, ajouter, supprimer (voire faire des
snapshot) les partitions sans difficultés.

Par contre, windows ne comprend pas ce système (votre dernière
partition NTFS pour Windows ne pourrait pas être créer comme un LV,
il faut la laisser en partition physique comme vous avez fait).

  Cordialement,
Vincent

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[deloptes]

Pol Hallen wrote:

>> Unless I am misunderstanding the question,
> 
> I need to print using 192.168.1.10 (server) not directly by network
> printer
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> Pol

Hi

In /etc/cups/client.conf

set the ServerName

ServerName 192.168.1.10

try lpstat -a

$  lpstat -a
HP_LaserJet_5L accepting requests since Wed 04 May 2016 10:31:02 PM CEST

regards

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2016-05-09, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> It is also a pity that Wheezy LTS appears not to be a truly viable
> proposition for the desktop.

True. The software versions are obviously quite old, and not all
packages are supported[1]. Previous LTS releases did not support
graphical web browsers; I don't know whether that is the case for wheezy
LTS too.

> I still have jdk7 to sort out on three computers.  In 
> Stable or newer jdk6 would surely have been removed for me by aptitude?

No, obsolete packages such as openjdk-6-* are left untouched[2]. It is
up to you to remove them.

1: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using#Check_for_unsupported_packages
2: 
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#obsolete

-- 

Liam

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[Pol Hallen]

Unless I am misunderstanding the question,


I need to print using 192.168.1.10 (server) not directly by network printer

thanks!


Pol

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[Pol Hallen]

Set up the clients to discover the server. Print.


ehm... not it so easy: from client I see network printer (shared by 
server) but after installed it I can't print.


On client I see "printer not connected" and on the server no logs file.

I also checked iptables rules but I've same problem :-/

thanks for help!

PS: on server I use debian wheezy (testing on clients)

Pol

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 20:30:28 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Mon 09 May 2016 at 21:15:50 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
> 
> > Hi all :)
> > 
> > I've a cups printer server (192.168.1.10) with a network printer connected
> > (192.168.1.200). From that server I can print.
> > 
> > how I have to configure the clients to print by that server?
> 
> Set up the clients to discover the server. Print.

That was bad piece of advice. Your Jessie server will broadcast its
printers if they are shared. Your Jessie clients will automaticlly
pick them up.

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[Dutch Ingraham]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 09:15:50PM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
> Hi all :)
> 
> I've a cups printer server (192.168.1.10) with a network printer connected
> (192.168.1.200). From that server I can print.
> 
> how I have to configure the clients to print by that server?
> 
Unless I am misunderstanding the question, first go to the CUPS web
interface, click "add printer," choose (if your networked printer(s) are
not automatically detected) "AppSocket,", then in the "Connection" box
insert the printer's IP (e.g., socket://192.168.1.200).  Click 
"continue" to finish up.

Re: diaporama Debian

[Klaus Becker]

Le lundi 9 mai 2016, 21:28:22 Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> Le Mon, 09 May 2016 20:20:17 +0200,
> 
> Klaus Becker  a écrit :
> > Bonsoir,
> > 
> > je cherche un diaporama pour présenter Debian lors d'une conférence.
> > Ca existe certainement, mais je n'ai pas trouvé grand'chose sur le
> > web.
> > 
> > Je n'ai peut-être pas besoin de tout recommencer à partir de zéro ?
> > 
> > ciao
> > 
> > Klaus
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> il existe une vidéo intéressante : le pacte des gnous ...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-x5gootjII
> 
> slt
> bernard


Je connais ce classique, mais cette vidéo ne parle pas de Debian

Klaus

Re: cups (sharing network printer)

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 21:15:50 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:

> Hi all :)
> 
> I've a cups printer server (192.168.1.10) with a network printer connected
> (192.168.1.200). From that server I can print.
> 
> how I have to configure the clients to print by that server?

Set up the clients to discover the server. Print.

Re: diaporama Debian

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Mon, 09 May 2016 20:20:17 +0200,
Klaus Becker  a écrit :

> Bonsoir,
> 
> je cherche un diaporama pour présenter Debian lors d'une conférence.
> Ca existe certainement, mais je n'ai pas trouvé grand'chose sur le
> web.
> 
> Je n'ai peut-être pas besoin de tout recommencer à partir de zéro ?
> 
> ciao
> 
> Klaus
> 

bonjour,

il existe une vidéo intéressante : le pacte des gnous ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-x5gootjII

slt
bernard

cups (sharing network printer)

[Pol Hallen]

Hi all :)

I've a cups printer server (192.168.1.10) with a network printer 
connected (192.168.1.200). From that server I can print.


how I have to configure the clients to print by that server?

thanks for help!

Pol

Re: diaporama Debian

[David Pinson]

Le plan classique:

- Le Libre
- Les 4 libertés fondamentales
- Histoire de Linux
- Linux ou GNU Linux
- Debian
- Créateur
- Philosophie
- etc...

Bonne rédaction, ça comptera pour 9 au bac !
:-)

--
Linuxement vôtre,

--
dptech ~ David Pinson
--

   var coffee = new coffee();
   if (coffee.empty)  {
   coffee.refill();
   } else {
   coffee.drink();
   }








Le 09/05/2016 20:22, Illoxx Jyloxx a écrit :

Yahallo,
Je pense que effectivement tu devrais faire la diapo' de zéro, c'est 
très certainement le mieux à faire que de prendre du préfabriquer sur 
le net. :)


--
/Le monde des baleines vaincra !/
*Co-fondateur* de Quanta Cloud 



 Original Message 
Subject: diaporama Debian
Local Time: May 9, 2016 8:20 PM
UTC Time: May 9, 2016 6:20 PM
From: colon...@free.fr
To: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org

Bonsoir,

je cherche un diaporama pour présenter Debian lors d'une conférence. 
Ca existe

certainement, mais je n'ai pas trouvé grand'chose sur le web.

Je n'ai peut-être pas besoin de tout recommencer à partir de zéro ?

ciao

Klaus

Re: ghost partition

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 17:19:28 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Got it! If he/she has root privileges they must be used. None of this
> > namby-pamby user stuff. :)
> 
> We're on our second iteration of that. We'll bore ourselves to death.

Second, third and fourth reinterations of advice on good practice are
hopefully not wasted on -user.

> Let's just agree to differ, OK?

Indeed.

Re: diaporama Debian

[Illoxx Jyloxx]

Yahallo,
Je pense que effectivement tu devrais faire la diapo' de zéro, c'est très 
certainement le mieux à faire que de prendre du préfabriquer sur le net. :)


--
Le monde des baleines vaincra !
Co-fondateur de [Quanta Cloud](http://quantacloud.ch)



 Original Message 
Subject: diaporama Debian
Local Time: May 9, 2016 8:20 PM
UTC Time: May 9, 2016 6:20 PM
From: colon...@free.fr
To: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org

Bonsoir,

je cherche un diaporama pour présenter Debian lors d'une conférence. Ca existe
certainement, mais je n'ai pas trouvé grand'chose sur le web.

Je n'ai peut-être pas besoin de tout recommencer à partir de zéro ?

ciao

Klaus

diaporama Debian

[Klaus Becker]

Bonsoir,

je cherche un diaporama pour présenter Debian lors d'une conférence. Ca existe 
certainement, mais je n'ai pas trouvé grand'chose sur le web.

Je n'ai peut-être pas besoin de tout recommencer à partir de zéro ?

ciao

Klaus

Re: laptop Acer Nvidia optimus

[Grégory Reinbold]

Salut,

Tu dis que pour l'instant ça tourne avec le driver Intel, as-tu déjà 
essayé d'installer les paquets nvidia non-free ?


https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nvidia=names=all=all=mozilla-search

Cordialement

Le 09/05/2016 19:58, e Lpe a écrit :

Chalut,

Je finis d'installer Debian Jessie x64 sur un Acer V3 nvidia optimus
gtx760m/intel 4600

1°) j'ai jeté un oeil à la configuration nvidia via nvidia setting.
Une chose m'a surpris. Sur les deux écrans branchés (laptop+externe),
un seul écran apparaît ce qui ne me plait pas plus que ça.

2°) la résolution affichée dans l'onglet idoine est des plus basique : 640x480

Pour l'instant, je n'ai touché à rien.
Visiblement je tourne actuellement avec  le pilote Intel.

J'ai beau chercher dans divers site, il en ressort le bilan. La
plupart des sites donnent une documentation obsolète ou/et incomplète.
Les canaux IRC doivent sûrement être habité par des administrateurs
réseaux ou autre car dès que l'on touche aux domaines qui intéressent
les portables : bouche cousue.

Décevant ! Y aurait-il un autre utilisateur de Jessie x64 qui soit
allé un peu plus loin qu'une installation basique ?

Merci d'avance.



--
Grégory Reinbold
Unix - Where there is a shell, there is a way.

pppoe setup <- Re: Testing AT, so routing setup

[ken]

On 05/06/2016 04:43 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Le 05/05/2016 21:05, ken a écrit :


Working on the Pi just from the bash prompt as root, how do I set the
routing table (etc.) to connect directly to the DSL modem?  The routing
table on my router currently shows:

# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
77.219.160.10.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 00 ppp0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 00 br0
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 00 br0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0 00 lo
0.0.0.0 77.219.160.10.0.0.0 UG 0 00 ppp0

Here's the Pi's current routing table:

Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0
10.10.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0 0 wlan0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0 0 eth0

To plug the Pi directly into the modem, I think I'm going to need to run
ppp and then run some commands to temporarily set the IP address of the
ethernet port (eth0) and the routing table.  I much prefer to do all
this without changing config files so that when I reboot the Pi, the
settings go back to their original.  What do I need to 'apt-get' for the
ppp executables?


The interface type is PPP so you need the package "ppp" providing pppd.

The DSL provider probably uses PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE). You can 
check on your router. pppd can handle PPPoE direclty through a plugin 
and a kernel module or in userland though the package "pppoe" (more 
overhead and more options). The extra package "pppoeconf" eases the 
creation of a PPPoE configuration file in /etc/ppp/peers. Once 
created, the connection can be started and stopped manually with "pon" 
and "poff".


Some DSL providers may use the PPTP protocol instead. Then you need 
the package "pptp-linux".


Thanks for the very helpful reply.

The router is a dd-wrt, set up years ago and I don't recall anymore how 
I set it up.  So I called the ISP: they said they use pppoe.  I 
installed that on the Pi... along with ppp.






And... I'm more accustomed to using the 'route'
command to manually set up a routing table, but have used 'ip' commands
too, if that's more familiar to you.


You should not need to issue any commands. Just make sure the PPP 
config file has the options "defaultroute" to set the default route 
through the PPP connection and "replacedefaultroute" to override the 
existing default route.


I *want* to use commands.  As said in my original (& probably seemingly 
wordy, hence redacted) email, this is going to be temporary use of this 
Pi, so I don't want to set up a new configuration on it.  I want the 
default networking configuration to remain as is, plug it into a 
different connection, run some commands to change the networking to run 
ppp, and then, when I'm done with this new connection, reboot and go 
back to the previous networking config which doesn't even run ppp.


Reading "man pon" I found I can do "pon testconfig" and pon will load 
the specified "testconfig" settings file  instead of the default 
config... and then after a reboot, go back to the previous network 
settings (with no ppp running and the default route to what it was 
previously).


Said another way, this Pi is currently just part of my LAN and is 
configured to connect to a router (192.168.0.1).  I'm going to unplug it 
from that, connect it directly to the DSL modem (temporarily) to test my 
ISP.  Then, when I'm done with the test, I'll unplug it, put it back 
onto the LAN, and boot into it's previous network config.


So I expect that, after the Pi is connected directly to the modem, I'll 
need to do "ifdown eth0" first, then do "pon testconfig".  The 
/etc/ppp/peers/testconfg file is going to be somewhat different from the 
default one... on these items:


1) I have static ip addresses (2 of them), not dynamic.  So where, if 
anywhere, do I need to specify one?  And what other setting(s) to 
specify a static IP?


2) My setup needs to specify a user and password.  I'm guessing the 
'user "myusername@realm"' line should serve for that, yes?


3) The Pi has two network interfaces (shown above, in my original 
post).  How do I tell ppp to use eth0 and leave wlan0 alone?



This is actually a cool, little project... might be helpful for other 
folks who want to run tests on their ISP isolated from their LAN.  
Again, thanks for your help.

laptop Acer Nvidia optimus

[e Lpe]

Chalut,

Je finis d'installer Debian Jessie x64 sur un Acer V3 nvidia optimus
gtx760m/intel 4600

1°) j'ai jeté un oeil à la configuration nvidia via nvidia setting.
Une chose m'a surpris. Sur les deux écrans branchés (laptop+externe),
un seul écran apparaît ce qui ne me plait pas plus que ça.

2°) la résolution affichée dans l'onglet idoine est des plus basique : 640x480

Pour l'instant, je n'ai touché à rien.
Visiblement je tourne actuellement avec  le pilote Intel.

J'ai beau chercher dans divers site, il en ressort le bilan. La
plupart des sites donnent une documentation obsolète ou/et incomplète.
Les canaux IRC doivent sûrement être habité par des administrateurs
réseaux ou autre car dès que l'on touche aux domaines qui intéressent
les portables : bouche cousue.

Décevant ! Y aurait-il un autre utilisateur de Jessie x64 qui soit
allé un peu plus loin qu'une installation basique ?

Merci d'avance.

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Doug]

On 05/09/2016 09:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Monday 09 May 2016 13:18:26 Dutch Ingraham wrote:

what version of Windows could you purchase today that would
operate on an Intel Pentium M 750?

Windows 10 CLAIMS to run on 32 bit computers.  I would have to pay £90.00 to
test it, so I don't intend to do so.  I haven't researched it much.  I don't
intend ever to use Windows 10 - I was lucky enough never to use Windows 8 at
all :-)) - so it is academic really.

Lisi


I was dual-booting Windows 10 with Linux, after having upgraded to Win 
10 over the years from XP > W7 > W8 > W8.1 > W10. Trying to install a 
certain scanner driver in W10,
the OS crashed: it was no longer able to access the Internet. I was 
unable to fix it or to reinstall it. On a Windows forum, I was told that 
most probably the new W10 did not have
drivers to support my older machine. (That is, the drivers that had been 
working were the older drivers which were still available from the 
earlier Win systems that had been
upgraded, and were not available in the modern W10 package.) As a 
result, I no longer have any Windows on that machine. I can't say I miss 
it much! But bear in mind that
if this diagnosis is correct, buying Win10 does not guarantee it will 
work on your older machine!


--doug

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 09 May 2016 17:19:33 Brian wrote:
> On Mon 09 May 2016 at 18:51:56 +0300, Piyavkin wrote:
> > On 09.05.2016 17:18, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > >On Monday 09 May 2016 13:18:26 Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> > >>what version of Windows could you purchase today that would
> > >>operate on an Intel Pentium M 750?
> > >
> > >Windows 10 CLAIMS to run on 32 bit computers.  I would have to pay
> > > £90.00 to test it, so I don't intend to do so.  I haven't researched it
> > > much.  I don't intend ever to use Windows 10 - I was lucky enough never
> > > to use Windows 8 at all :-)) - so it is academic really.
> > >
> > >Lisi
> >
> > If usable 32-bit win version of flash-player exists, how about Wine?
>
> The Windows versions of flash and Firefox both run under Wine.

Yes, I must explore it in the near future for various problems.  It has been a 
tuit for some time.  It has recently been promoted to my to-do list - i.e. 
things that might actually get done!!  There is also VB.  But I am not 
entirely sure how sandboxed something is, if it can reach the Internet.

Lisi

Re: Wlan0 problems

[Henning Follmann]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 02:36:30AM -0400, Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> Last night, i was continuing my tightening of security according to the
> debain sites manual, and had pretty much finished with the securing
> networks part...today, i start up my laptop and no wifi?? In the taskbar,

mission accomplished. No network is a reasonable security startegy ;)



> the wifi symbol has a question mark, hovering over it says
> disconnected...but it is up in ifconfig, althougb next to up it says
> Broadcast multicast (all caps) and it also says Link encap: ethernet, which
> i dont think it did before. Help lol


encap: ethernet is OK.

It looks more like you couldn't get an ip address.

Can you post the output of iwconfig wlan0?

What did you do to "secure" your network?

-H


-- 
Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 18:51:56 +0300, Piyavkin wrote:

> On 09.05.2016 17:18, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >On Monday 09 May 2016 13:18:26 Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> >>what version of Windows could you purchase today that would
> >>operate on an Intel Pentium M 750?
> >Windows 10 CLAIMS to run on 32 bit computers.  I would have to pay £90.00 to
> >test it, so I don't intend to do so.  I haven't researched it much.  I don't
> >intend ever to use Windows 10 - I was lucky enough never to use Windows 8 at
> >all :-)) - so it is academic really.
> >
> >Lisi
> 
> If usable 32-bit win version of flash-player exists, how about Wine?

The Windows versions of flash and Firefox both run under Wine.

Re: mplayer: --alang option

[Frédéric Marchal]

On Sunday 08 May 2016 07:57:59 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> hi,
> I tried to rip a DVD with "mplayer --alang=fr", but got
> the english audio track. Did anybody used this option, and if yes
> with what result?

I haven't done this for ages but, if my memory serves me well, when the 
language name is not defined on the DVD track (as is apparently your case), you 
must use --aid instead of --alang. --aid expects a number which is the audio 
channel ID code.

The audio ID code identifies the audio channel on the DVD track. It is not 
related to the actual language (read this as: it doesn't always have the same 
value for French, not even from one track to the other on the same DVD). It is 
an ID assigned to an audio "slot" on the track.

The actual number can be displayed with lsdvd -a. It usually is 128 or 129 
from my experience (it may be bigger if the DVD has many languages and French 
is not among the two first). I think lsdvd displays it as hexadecimal when 
mplayer expects it as decimal (or is it the opposite).

Frederic

Re: systeme de backup local

[Sébastien Dinot]

JF Straeten a écrit :
> Sinon, il y a aussi (notamment) dar et obnam

J'ai longtemps utilisé dar qui fonctionne bien et propose des options
fort intéressantes (découpage de la sauvegardes en tranches de taille
arbitraire que l'on peut par exemple graver sur des DVD, redondance
d'information pour pallier la corruption locale du fichier). Mais j'ai
opté il y a quelques années pour rdiff-backup car l'approche
différentielle est bien plus efficace que l'approche incrémentale,
surtout lorsqu'on doit sauvegarder de gros fichiers qui évoluent
marginalement (dump d'une base de données mais aussi, plus
ponctuellement, ajout de méta-données à des images).

J'ai évalué obnam pendant quelques semaines fin 2014 : l'outil semblait
prometteur mais il s'est révélé atrocement lent, du moins lorsqu'on
l'utilise pour de la sauvegarde distante, ce qui était mon cas.
Totalement inenvisageable dans mon cas d'utilisation !

J'ai évalué aussi un temps Attic (logiciel dont Borgbackup est un fork).
Il s'est avéré très performant, y compris à distance mais il a quelques
défauts qui ont fait que je n'ai toujours pas migré :

* peu de contributeurs (lâcher un outil non maintenu mais éprouvé pour
  un outil à peine maintenu et encore jeune, ce n'est pas une bonne
  idée) ;

* la déduplication engendre une sauvegarde opaque : impossible de
  récupérer la moindre version des données si l'outil bogue (une raison
  de plus d'opter pour un outil très bien maintenu).

De manière accessoire, les statistiques renvoyées sont complètement
incompréhensibles et certaines commandes manquent à l'appel (des
requêtes que l'on souhaiterait faire sur l'ensemble de l'historique ne
sont possibles que sur un incrément donné).

Sébastien


-- 
Sébastien Dinot, sebastien.di...@free.fr
http://sebastien.dinot.free.fr/
Ne goûtez pas au logiciel libre, vous ne pourriez plus vous en passer !

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Piyavkin]

On 09.05.2016 17:18, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Monday 09 May 2016 13:18:26 Dutch Ingraham wrote:

what version of Windows could you purchase today that would
operate on an Intel Pentium M 750?

Windows 10 CLAIMS to run on 32 bit computers.  I would have to pay £90.00 to
test it, so I don't intend to do so.  I haven't researched it much.  I don't
intend ever to use Windows 10 - I was lucky enough never to use Windows 8 at
all :-)) - so it is academic really.

Lisi




If usable 32-bit win version of flash-player exists, how about Wine?


Best regards,
Dmitry Piyavkin

Re: ghost partition

[tomas]

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> Got it! If he/she has root privileges they must be used. None of this
> namby-pamby user stuff. :)

We're on our second iteration of that. We'll bore ourselves to death.
Let's just agree to differ, OK?

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Re: Debian package: Quilt | git | add files to package

[Alex Mestiashvili]

On 05/09/2016 02:55 PM, Denny Fuchs wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I trying to create a own Debian package which mostly worked without Git.
> Now I moved the sources (only files) to a Git repo and using
> git-buildpackage. That was working too, until I wanted to add a file
> (example Apache config). Now it fails ... and I don't get it.
> I red, that a Git commit (the new file for example) has to be added via
> a (quilt) patch, so I created one:
> 
> $ quilt new apache2.conf
> $ quilt add apache2.conf
> $ quilt edit apache2.conf
> 
> $ quilt refresh
> 
> $ quilt header --dep3 -e
> $ quilt push
> <.. apache.conf was successful created>
> $ quilt pop -a
> 
> git add debian/patches/apache.conf
> git commit -m "Added apache example config" debian/patches/apache.conf
> debian/patches/series
> 
> In the Makefile (also a quilt patch), I tried to copy the created
> apache.conf file to /usr/share/doc//apache.conf.example
> 
> The problem is, that the apache.conf would be created _after_ my cp
> command from the Makefile .. so I changed the order that apache.conf
> patch comes first. But that doesn't fix the problem. " cp: cannot stat
> ‘apache.conf’: No such file or directory'.
> 
> So, maybe I'm completely wrong. How should I add new files to use with
> Git / quilt and get it working with:
> 
> $ git-buildpackage --git-tag -uc -us  --git-ignore-new
> --git-ignore-branch   --git-tag --git-cleaner='git clean -dfx'
> 
> 
> any suggestions are welcome :-)
> 
> cu denny
> 
> 

Hi,

This question is more suitable for debian-mentors mailing list.

I guess that using git-buildpackage assumes that you have 3 branches -
master, upstream and pristine-tar

Your debian directory is part of master branch and you are free to
modify it as you like, the only thing you need to do after the change is
to commit your changes to the master branch...

Quilt patches needed only if you want to patch the source code of your
package i.e. files not in debian/

Here you can find some details about gbp buildpackage practices:
 http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/docs/policy.html

Best,
Alex

Re: ghost partition

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 16:10:51 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 02:57:48PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 09 May 2016 at 15:33:17 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 02:09:45PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Mon 09 May 2016 at 14:50:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > > Of course you gotta do that as root, either by sudo magic or whatever.
> > > > 
> > > > Not necessarily; udisksctl (install udisks2) and udevil are two programs
> > > > which will do this for a user. 
> > > 
> > > To each his/her own :-)
> > 
> > Not if he/she does not have root access on the machine. :)
> 
> If he/she successfully dumped a file to /, then he/she has.

Got it! If he/she has root privileges they must be used. None of this
namby-pamby user stuff. :)

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 09 May 2016 13:18:26 Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> what version of Windows could you purchase today that would
> operate on an Intel Pentium M 750?

Windows 10 CLAIMS to run on 32 bit computers.  I would have to pay £90.00 to 
test it, so I don't intend to do so.  I haven't researched it much.  I don't 
intend ever to use Windows 10 - I was lucky enough never to use Windows 8 at 
all :-)) - so it is academic really.  

Lisi

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 09 May 2016 13:45:39 Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > My client cannot run an up-to-date Flashplayer on Linux.
>
> Why not?  AFAIK my daughter's computer (running 32bit Debian stable) has
> a working flash player (and yes, I'm talking about Adobe's crap plugin,
> rather than gnash which sadly seems to have died).

Firefox runs fine with flashplugin-nonfree.  But not all sites are happy with 
that.  And Google has given up support for pepper flash 32 bit.  It is 
recent, and if it was already installed it would still be running.  But I 
can't easily install it now - and there will be no future updates.

Lisi

Re: ghost partition

[tomas]

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On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 02:57:48PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 09 May 2016 at 15:33:17 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 02:09:45PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 09 May 2016 at 14:50:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > Of course you gotta do that as root, either by sudo magic or whatever.
> > > 
> > > Not necessarily; udisksctl (install udisks2) and udevil are two programs
> > > which will do this for a user. 
> > 
> > To each his/her own :-)
> 
> Not if he/she does not have root access on the machine. :)

If he/she successfully dumped a file to /, then he/she has.

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Re: ghost partition

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 15:33:17 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 02:09:45PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 09 May 2016 at 14:50:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > Of course you gotta do that as root, either by sudo magic or whatever.
> > 
> > Not necessarily; udisksctl (install udisks2) and udevil are two programs
> > which will do this for a user. 
> 
> To each his/her own :-)

Not if he/she does not have root access on the machine. :)

Re: Servidor vsftp lee todos los directorios.

[Camaleón]

El Sun, 08 May 2016 19:05:46 -0400, Fausto Disla escribió:

> Tengo un server vsftp corriendo en Debian 7 y cuando un user entra al
> ftp con solo hacer cd / puede ver todos los archivos de / lo cual no es
> lo que quiero.
> 
> Me gustaria que los usuarios solo puedan acceder a la carpeta /ftpuser.

Supongo que usas usuarios locales con cuenta en el sistema, de ahí que la 
jaula esté desactivada de manera predeterminada (es más inseguro). 

Revisa la documentación que tienes en las wikis de Ubuntu y ArchLinux (la 
de Debian "cojea"), que son bastante completas en cuanto a opciones de 
configuración:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Very_Secure_FTP_Daemon

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: ghost partition

[tomas]

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> On Mon 09 May 2016 at 14:50:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> > Of course you gotta do that as root, either by sudo magic or whatever.
> 
> Not necessarily; udisksctl (install udisks2) and udevil are two programs
> which will do this for a user. 

To each his/her own :-)

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Re: ghost partition

[Brian]

On Mon 09 May 2016 at 14:50:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 08:41:59AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> > On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 11:05:13AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > Hi Haines,
> > 
> > > I had thought that the "sde1" in your ncdu output was some sort of
> > > header representing the / device, but having installed ncdu and run
> > > it myself I am inclined to agree with Juergen that it is actually a
> > > file.
> > 
> > And so it is. I must have seen /sde1, but it failed to register on my
> > octogenarian brain. I moved it into storage and my full disk problem is
> > gone. Hard to know what that file is. The file command says it is data.
> > It may be an ISO. I'll eventually delete it.
> 
> A cheap shot: try to mount it. Either as loopback:
> 
>   mount -o loop /sde1 /mnt
> 
> or by dd'ing it first to a suitable storage (e.g. a stick).
> 
> If that suceeds, then it is a file system image *and* you can nose
> around in the mount directory (/mnt in the above example) to refresh
> your memory.
> 
> Of course you gotta do that as root, either by sudo magic or whatever.

Not necessarily; udisksctl (install udisks2) and udevil are two programs
which will do this for a user. 

Re: libpepflashplayer.so

[Sven Hartge]

Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Monday 09 May 2016 02:01:28 Sven Hartge wrote:

>> Beware: this is David who has this CPU, not Lisi, wo has not yet
>> provided any further info in her CPU.

> I have not yet gained access to the computer again, which is not mine.  I 
> have 
> confirmed (just now) that it is a Dell Inspiron 9300
> http://www.cnet.com/uk/products/dell-inspiron-9300/specs/
> which had an Intel Pentium M Processor 750, which was 32 bit.
> http://ark.intel.com/products/27593/Intel-Pentium-M-Processor-750-2M-Cache-1_86-GHz-533-MHz-FSB

If this is the case, then you are out of luck.

Concerning Flash you have then only one option left:

Flash 11.2 with Firefox, which is still supported on 32bit and Linux by
Adobe.

Unfortunately some sites want a newer Flash and won't work with that
old version. You cannot use those sites then with Firefox.

Newer and supported Flash versions for Chromium are only available for
64bit which you can't use because of the ancient CPU in that laptop.

The last 32bit version of Pepper Flash was in Chrome 48, which was
version 20.0.0.306-r2.

Chrome 50 contains Flash 21.0.0.216, so it is already a major version of
bug and security fixes ahead.

And those Flash updates are usually security flaws, most times already
being exploited in the wild.

I personally would rather live without Flash than use an old version
because of the security problems it has caused in the past.

Grüße,
Sven.


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Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Debian package: Quilt | git | add files to package

[Denny Fuchs]

hi,

I trying to create a own Debian package which mostly worked without Git. 
Now I moved the sources (only files) to a Git repo and using 
git-buildpackage. That was working too, until I wanted to add a file 
(example Apache config). Now it fails ... and I don't get it.
I red, that a Git commit (the new file for example) has to be added via 
a (quilt) patch, so I created one:


$ quilt new apache2.conf
$ quilt add apache2.conf
$ quilt edit apache2.conf

$ quilt refresh

$ quilt header --dep3 -e
$ quilt push
<.. apache.conf was successful created>
$ quilt pop -a

git add debian/patches/apache.conf
git commit -m "Added apache example config" debian/patches/apache.conf 
debian/patches/series


In the Makefile (also a quilt patch), I tried to copy the created 
apache.conf file to /usr/share/doc//apache.conf.example


The problem is, that the apache.conf would be created _after_ my cp 
command from the Makefile .. so I changed the order that apache.conf 
patch comes first. But that doesn't fix the problem. " cp: cannot stat 
‘apache.conf’: No such file or directory'.


So, maybe I'm completely wrong. How should I add new files to use with 
Git / quilt and get it working with:


$ git-buildpackage --git-tag -uc -us  --git-ignore-new 
--git-ignore-branch   --git-tag --git-cleaner='git clean -dfx'



any suggestions are welcome :-)

cu denny

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Stefan Monnier]

> My client cannot run an up-to-date Flashplayer on Linux.

Why not?  AFAIK my daughter's computer (running 32bit Debian stable) has
a working flash player (and yes, I'm talking about Adobe's crap plugin,
rather than gnash which sadly seems to have died).


Stefan

Re: En attente d'une suite favorable ?

[Pierre TOUZEAU]

Ah !
Aurore à un faible pour Debian, elle a déjà recherché un cœur à prendre
le 26 janvier sur debian-dev-french...

:-)

Le 09/05/2016 13:24, aurore.herber...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
> Bonjour,
>
> D'abord, j'espère ne pas m'être trompée d’émail
>
> Voilà, ma démarche est un peu spéciale car nous ne nous connaissons pas.
> Je suis Mlle Herbert Aurore, j'ai eu votre contact à travers mes
> recherches.
> Je sais qu'on ne se connait pas mais je me dis que ça ne coûte rien de
> prendre contact avec vous et d'éventuellement voir ce que ça
> Pourrait donner, surtout qu'on n'habite vraiment pas loin l'un de
> l'autre Alors voilà, est-ce que ça vous dirais de faire ma
> connaissance ? Nous
> Pouvons juste nous rencontrer et voir s’il y a des liens qui se
> créent, pas d'engagement donc.
> Je ne suis vraiment pas du genre prise de tête mais après plusieurs
> déceptions j'aimerais rencontrer enfin quelqu'un de bien, dans sa tête
> surtout.
>
> Bon je me doute que vous ne voulez pas perdre votre temps en ne
> sachant pas
> à qui vous avez affaire, alors je vous joins spontanément une photo de
> moi. Si le cœur vous dit de faire ma connaissance au
> Moins vous ne serez pas surpris et comme ça vous pourrez aussi me
> reconnaître !
> J'ai 37 ans, mais de toute façon l'âge importe peu...
> A très vite... J'espère !
> Bisous
> Mon Mail Pseudo: syssi2...@gmail.com 
> Mlle HERBERT AURORE
>
> Je vous ai invité à remplir le formulaire *En attente d'une suite
> favorable ?*. Pour le remplir, allez à :
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rE7sCg4oBq85LUP0pL9HIpo4Wa-7CIBISN19OC0nrWs/viewform?c=0=1=mail_form_link
>

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Re: ghost partition

[tomas]

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On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 08:41:59AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 11:05:13AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Hi Haines,
> 
> > I had thought that the "sde1" in your ncdu output was some sort of
> > header representing the / device, but having installed ncdu and run
> > it myself I am inclined to agree with Juergen that it is actually a
> > file.
> 
> And so it is. I must have seen /sde1, but it failed to register on my
> octogenarian brain. I moved it into storage and my full disk problem is
> gone. Hard to know what that file is. The file command says it is data.
> It may be an ISO. I'll eventually delete it.

A cheap shot: try to mount it. Either as loopback:

  mount -o loop /sde1 /mnt

or by dd'ing it first to a suitable storage (e.g. a stick).

If that suceeds, then it is a file system image *and* you can nose
around in the mount directory (/mnt in the above example) to refresh
your memory.

Of course you gotta do that as root, either by sudo magic or whatever.

> Thanks for the help, but should have discovered the source of the
> problem on my own.

Nobody's an island.

regards
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Re: ghost partition

[Haines Brown]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 11:05:13AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi Haines,

> I had thought that the "sde1" in your ncdu output was some sort of
> header representing the / device, but having installed ncdu and run
> it myself I am inclined to agree with Juergen that it is actually a
> file.

And so it is. I must have seen /sde1, but it failed to register on my
octogenarian brain. I moved it into storage and my full disk problem is
gone. Hard to know what that file is. The file command says it is data.
It may be an ISO. I'll eventually delete it.

> Perhaps you have tried to write an image to a USB key at /dev/sde1
> but done a typo and actually written to /sde1, thus creating that
> file?

Yes, so it seems.

Thanks for the help, but should have discovered the source of the
problem on my own.

Haines

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Dutch Ingraham]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 09:38:54AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I seem to have hit the following:
> My client cannot run an up-to-date Flashplayer on Linux.  If she insists on 
> running Flashplayer, she can run an out of date Flashplayer in her current 
> Debian system (if I can get a functional one installed) or she can go out, 
> buy and install Windows.  She will then be able to run an up-to-date 
> 
Maybe I am getting cross-thread confusion (or maybe I'm just not awake
yet), but what version of Windows could you purchase today that would
operate on an Intel Pentium M 750?

Re: Iceweseal se ferme à l'ouverture d'un nouvel onglet

[andre_debian]

On Sunday 08 May 2016 20:06:42 Pascal Obry wrote:
> Le dimanche 08 mai 2016 à 19:37 +0200, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a
> écrit :
> > Je précise :
> > - que j'ai upgradé Iceweasel,
> > - que Firefox ne s'éteint pas à l'ouverture d'un onglet,
> > - ne pas me dire de migrer vers Firefox... car il me semble
> >   plus lent que Iceweasel.

> Utilises Firefox et pas Iceweasel. Plus lent? Bon c'est exactement le
> même logiciel avec juste le nom qui change pour des raisons de
> trademark. Iceweasel est peut être une plus ancienne version plus
> vraiment compatible avec ton système... Donc oui migrer vers Firefox
> est LA solution et l'unique car sinon c'est juste reculer pour mieux
> sauter.

Iceweasel est la dernière version et je suis sous Debian Jessie.

Devoir supprimer le répertoire ~/home//.mozilla
tous les 6 mois pour ce type de bugs, ce n'est plus possible.

> Bon c'est exactement le même logiciel avec juste le nom qui change 
> pour des raisons de trademark :

si Iceweasel = Firefox, comment expliquer que le dernier fonctionne
et pas trop le premier ?

André

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déceptions j'aimerais rencontrer enfin quelqu'un de bien, dans sa tête
surtout.
Bon je me doute que vous ne voulez pas perdre votre temps en ne sachant
pas
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Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Nicolas George]

Le primidi 21 floréal, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
> It is a sad day when Windows is in any way better for a legacy computer than 
> Linux;

It is a sad day when the ability to run crappy and dying proprietary
software is the main criterion to tell which system is better.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

Re: ghost partition

[Andy Smith]

Hi Haines,

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 06:43:59AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> I had been inserting a sequence of USB keys to see what was on them, and
> pretty sure the sde1 interface was used at some point. But no keys are
> inserted at present. I also just did a cross installation onto an

[…]

>   $ ls -la /sys/block/sde
>   lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 May  9 05:30 /sys/block/sde ->
>   
> ../devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb1/1-3/1-3.3/1-3.3:1.0/host7/target7:0:0/
>  \
> 7:0:0:1/block/sde

So it seems like sde is/was a USB block device.

I had thought that the "sde1" in your ncdu output was some sort of
header representing the / device, but having installed ncdu and run
it myself I am inclined to agree with Juergen that it is actually a
file.

> Juergen suggested deleting /dev/sde1 it after backing it up. That was my
> first inclination, but kinda hard to do if /dev/sde1 is not visible.

In your ncdu output it looked like you ran it while / was your
current directory, and the output it gave was just "sde1", not
"/dev/sde1". So have a look for the file /sde1.

Perhaps you have tried to write an image to a USB key at /dev/sde1
but done a typo and actually written to /sde1, thus creating that
file?

Certainly if I do this:

$ sudo du if=/dev/zero of=/sde1 bs=1M count=100
$ sudo ncdu -rx /

then I end up with a line of output that looks like what you
provided.

So, are you sure there is not just a regular file at /sde1 (not in
/dev)?

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Lisi wrote:
> In Stable or newer jdk6 would surely have been removed for me by aptitude?

Can you still get jdk6 built from source ? (Possibly a nighmare
of dependencies.)


> It is a sad day when Windows is in any way better for a legacy computer than
> Linux;

Well, talk about concurrent DVD burning to more than one /dev/sr*,
about proper reading of TAO CDs, and the impatience not to wait for
a CD drive to become ready after the kernel automatically pulled
in the tray on the first read attempt.

I meanwhile believe to know the reasons for these regressions but
cannot get any attention from linux-scsi. (They care for Atari
hardware, instead. So it is my smell which repels them, not my
objective ?)

The workarounds in userspace are at best embarrassing (e.g. use
/dev/sg, which Linus himself deprecated for CD burning a decade ago).


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: libssl update problem

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 09 May 2016 03:39:49 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

> If no amd64 packages needed on this machine, maybe the amd64
> architecture could be removed:
>
>   dpkg --remove-architecture amd64
>
> Then it won't install another amd64 package in the future.
>
Which is how I got into this mess in the first place.  Because the RTAI 
patched 64 bit kernels still don't have anywhere near the low latency 
needed to run machinery, as in cnc machinery, that a 32 bit kernel can 
achieve, I had added that architecture so I could run a 64 bit amd64 
kernel so I could do my own latency measurements.  This also had th 
added advantage of using all 8Gb in this machine, whereas the RTAI 
patches to a 32 bit kernel also wipe out the PAE, so I am 500 megs into 
swap in a days runtime. Performance of course goes in the toilet.

That worked although the latency was up some, but I only run the 
simulated LCNC on this machine.  Then I got the brilliant (not) idea of 
converting this 32 bit install into a full 64 bit amd64, but quickly ran 
into dependency hell since you can't easily replace libc6 on a running 
system. Everything was cool and I had removed most of the :amd64 stuff 
until the latest libssl fix hit the repo's.  It wouldn't configure as 
the amd64 kit was still installed.  Anyway, the procedure I posted fixed 
it all back up.  The above command in your post had already been done.

So overall, this 64 bit kernel runs much better, but the latency of this 
kernel,

gene@coyote:~/bin$ uname -a
Linux coyote 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2~bpo70+1 
(2016-04-12) x86_64 GNU/Linux

is such that I could never run a stepper motor with this machine, the 25  
micro-second base-thread has up to an 83 millisecond jitter, whereas the 
RTAI patched 32 bit kernel is, on the right cpu, capable of a 3 
microsecond jitter, and the 1 millisecond servo-thread will show above 
100 milliseconds without too long a wait.  But that doesn't prevent me 
from writing gcode and testing it for correctness by running a simulated 
virtual machine on this machine from a comfy chair.  My eyes cannot see 
the timing jitter as the code is being simulated, but that would totally 
destroy both the workpiece, and maybe even the real machinery itself as 
it tries to follow orders that could be up to 100+ milliseconds late.

> Regards,
> jvp.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: ghost partition

[Haines Brown]

I had been inserting a sequence of USB keys to see what was on them, and
pretty sure the sde1 interface was used at some point. But no keys are
inserted at present. I also just did a cross installation onto an
attached hard disk and so its directories were mounted locally on /mnt
and I had chroot'ed into its root directory. I suspect this was close in
time to when my root partition became filled. I unmounted these
partitions and I closed the chroot terminal. To avoid confusion I should
note that in what follows, my currently running disk is /dev/sdb, while
the new cross installation was to /dev/sda. That is, /dev/sda is the
newer disk. I should also note that /home, /usr, /var and /tmp
partitions are broken out.

  $ cat /proc/mounts
  rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
  sysfs /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
  proc /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
  udev /dev devtmpfs rw,relatime,size=10240k,nr_inodes=188865,mode=755 0 0
  devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000 
0 0
  tmpfs /run tmpfs rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=1647748k,mode=755 0 0
  /dev/disk/by-uuid/b0673fe5-e6b2-42a5-9121-5fcf32b7135d / \
ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
  tmpfs /run/lock tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k 0 0
  tmpfs /run/shm tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=9545360k 0 0
  /dev/sdb5 /home ext4 rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
  ...

  $ ls -la /sys/block/sde
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 May  9 05:30 /sys/block/sde ->
  
../devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb1/1-3/1-3.3/1-3.3:1.0/host7/target7:0:0/ \
7:0:0:1/block/sde

  This is similar to the return from other interfaces.

  # blockdev --report /dev/sde
  RORA   SSZ   BSZ   StartSecSize   Device
  rw   256   512  4096  0   0   /dev/sde

  # blockdev --report /dev/sde1
  RORA   SSZ   BSZ   StartSecSize   Device
  blockdev: cannot open /dev/sde1: No such file or directory

  # grep sde1 /var/log/dmesg
  [nothing]

Juergen suggested deleting /dev/sde1 it after backing it up. That was my
first inclination, but kinda hard to do if /dev/sde1 is not visible. I
also considered just rebooting, but thought best to find out what the
problem is, and who knows I might not be able to boot. I have a second
bootable disk on the machine that automatically mounts the partitions on
my problematic drive on /mnt/debian/, and so I can boot it and
access the current drive's partitions.

Haines

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 09 May 2016 10:22:57 Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> Lisi Reisz, Mo 09 Mai 2016 10:38:54 CEST:
> > I seem to have hit the following:
> > My client cannot run an up-to-date Flashplayer on Linux.  If she insists
> > on running Flashplayer, she can run an out of date Flashplayer in her
> > current Debian system (if I can get a functional one installed) or she
> > can go out, buy and install Windows.  She will then be able to run an
> > up-to-date Flashplayer.  Or she can buy a new computer.
> >
> > It is a sad day when Windows is in any way better for a legacy computer
> > than Linux; one of whose strengths used to be how good it was for legacy
> > computers.
>
> If the vendor of proprietary software X decides that they will provide a
> version of X for proprietary OS Y but not for the open source OS Z you
> would like to run X on, you're out of luck. That's one of major problems
> with proprietary software (and one of the main reasons to avoid it
> wherever possible).

Of course. And I did say "in any way".  Linux used to be for specialists only.  
It has been making inroads on the desktop.  Mind you, I feel that some 
distros go too far down this road and are making Linux far less secure, so it 
is difficult line to draw.

> It seems very strange to me that from running into this well-known
> problem you draw the conclusion that proprietary OS Y is somehow
> "better" than open source OS Z. I use an obviously very different metric
> to decide which OS is "better".
>
I did say "in ANY way".  And yes it is a well known problem.  But it is one 
that I have managed to grapple with so far.

> > It is also a pity that Wheezy LTS appears not to be a truly viable
> > proposition for the desktop.  I still have jdk7 to sort out on three
> > computers.  In Stable or newer jdk6 would surely have been removed for me
> > by aptitude?
>
> I fail to see what's wrong with this (or why it should be a pity). jdk6
> was EOL'ed about three years ago. If you still have not managed to
> replace it (or to make sure that it can be replaced) with a supported
> version, it's not Debian's fault.

We are back to Linux being for specialists only.  aptitude does most things 
for me so that I don't have to do them.  I can trust the Debian developers to 
know better than I do.  They still do.  It is aptitude that has asked me to 
remove jdk6.  In the  past when aptitude wanted something removed, it offered 
to do it, or even just did it.  I attributed the difference, perhaps 
erroneously, to Wheezy's being LTS.

Lisi

Re: Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Markus Schönhaber]

Lisi Reisz, Mo 09 Mai 2016 10:38:54 CEST:

> I seem to have hit the following:
> My client cannot run an up-to-date Flashplayer on Linux.  If she insists on 
> running Flashplayer, she can run an out of date Flashplayer in her current 
> Debian system (if I can get a functional one installed) or she can go out, 
> buy and install Windows.  She will then be able to run an up-to-date 
> Flashplayer.  Or she can buy a new computer.
> 
> It is a sad day when Windows is in any way better for a legacy computer than 
> Linux; one of whose strengths used to be how good it was for legacy 
> computers.

If the vendor of proprietary software X decides that they will provide a
version of X for proprietary OS Y but not for the open source OS Z you
would like to run X on, you're out of luck. That's one of major problems
with proprietary software (and one of the main reasons to avoid it
wherever possible).
It seems very strange to me that from running into this well-known
problem you draw the conclusion that proprietary OS Y is somehow
"better" than open source OS Z. I use an obviously very different metric
to decide which OS is "better".

> It is also a pity that Wheezy LTS appears not to be a truly viable 
> proposition 
> for the desktop.  I still have jdk7 to sort out on three computers.  In 
> Stable or newer jdk6 would surely have been removed for me by aptitude?

I fail to see what's wrong with this (or why it should be a pity). jdk6
was EOL'ed about three years ago. If you still have not managed to
replace it (or to make sure that it can be replaced) with a supported
version, it's not Debian's fault.

-- 
Regards
  mks

Re: op blog gezet

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Wouter Verhelst schreef:
> De "liferea" client ("LInux FEed REAder") is een client die ik in het
> verleden wel gebruikt heb. Deze geeft je een interface die van ver
> iets weg heeft van een mailclient. Je opent de boel, en het trekt de
> geconfigureerde RSS- en Atom-feeds binnen. De client markeert de
> berichten uit de RSS- en Atom-feeds die je nog niet gelezen hebt, en
> je kan beginnen lezen.

Een soortgelijke RSS-lezer, die niet in de repositories voorkomt, maar
het op Debian perfect doet, is RSSOwl:  www.rssowl.org
Nog weer configureerbaarder en met meer mogelijkheden dan Liferea.

> Je kan 'm gerust eens proberen, niks meer verloren :-)

Dan vooral ook RSSOwl proberen.  :-)

Flashplayer on 32 bit computers

[Lisi Reisz]

I seem to have hit the following:
My client cannot run an up-to-date Flashplayer on Linux.  If she insists on 
running Flashplayer, she can run an out of date Flashplayer in her current 
Debian system (if I can get a functional one installed) or she can go out, 
buy and install Windows.  She will then be able to run an up-to-date 
Flashplayer.  Or she can buy a new computer.

It is a sad day when Windows is in any way better for a legacy computer than 
Linux; one of whose strengths used to be how good it was for legacy 
computers.

It is also a pity that Wheezy LTS appears not to be a truly viable proposition 
for the desktop.  I still have jdk7 to sort out on three computers.  In 
Stable or newer jdk6 would surely have been removed for me by aptitude?

Lisi

Re: stretch findings (kali flavor)

[Brian]

On Sun 08 May 2016 at 14:55:58 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> 1) though stretch finds wireless network card and uses it during
> installation, it fails to save necessary files such that a working wireless
> networking connection can be obtained after installation completes and first
> boot is done,

This is to be expected if you did not intall a desktop task; Mate, etc.

> 2) the whole software selection in install is broken no selection I tried in
> there completed successfully after passing on package usage reporting
> selection making no selection and going with the defaults in package
> selection also generated an error statement,

The Stretch installer is not finalised yet. A possible bug?

> 3) the wireless tools package was not installed by default when a wireless
> network got selected as primary interface,
> That may be how and why the necessary network configuration files did not
> get saved but I'm probably wrong about that,

You should have wpasupplicant to set up wireless after the install.

> 4) radeon firmware failed to install even though nonfree packages got
> selected to install
> Could it be a hardware detection run ought to be done after the nonfree
> packages get selected to find out if any of those packages will fill
> otherwise gaping hardware holes left by failing to install nonfree firmware
> drivers?

You are expected to sort this out after the install. As the installation
manual says:

  debian-installer only prompts for firmware needed by kernel
  modules loaded during the installation. Not all drivers are
  included in debian-installer, in particular radeon is not, so this
  implies that the capabilities of some devices may be no different
  at the end of the installation from what they were at the
  beginning. Consequently, some of your hardware may not be being
  used to its full potential. If you suspect this is the case, or
  are just curious, it is not a bad idea to check the output of the
  dmesg command on the newly booted system and search for
  "firmware".

Install packages you want on the booted system by preseeding with a
late_command.

Re: libpepflashplayer.so

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 09 May 2016 02:01:28 Sven Hartge wrote:
> Beware: this is David who has this CPU, not Lisi, wo has not yet
> provided any further info in her CPU.

I have not yet gained access to the computer again, which is not mine.  I have 
confirmed (just now) that it is a Dell Inspiron 9300
http://www.cnet.com/uk/products/dell-inspiron-9300/specs/
which had an Intel Pentium M Processor 750, which was 32 bit.
http://ark.intel.com/products/27593/Intel-Pentium-M-Processor-750-2M-Cache-1_86-GHz-533-MHz-FSB

Lisi

Re: libssl update problem

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

If no amd64 packages needed on this machine, maybe the amd64 architecture could
be removed:

  dpkg --remove-architecture amd64

Then it won't install another amd64 package in the future.

Regards,
jvp.

Re: Servidor vsftp lee todos los directorios.

[Jason Voorhees]

hola:

2016-05-08 18:05 GMT-05:00 Fausto Disla :
> Saludos,
>
> Listeros,
>
> Tengo un server vsftp corriendo en Debian 7 y cuando un user entra al ftp
> con solo hacer cd / puede ver todos los archivos de / lo cual no es lo que
> quiero.
>
> Me gustaria que los usuarios solo puedan acceder a la carpeta /ftpuser.
>
>

Debes configurar el enjaulamiento en vsftpd para los usuarios. Revisa
la directiva chroot_list_enabled y chroot_list_file

Re: ghost partition

[Juergen Bausa]

Haines Brown  histomat.net> writes:

> 
> Every once in a while I get a filled root partition, and the reason in
> 
> # ncdu -rx /
>   425.5MiB [##] sde1
>   198.3MiB [  ] /lib
>   193.8MiB [  ] /mnt
>   ...

If 'ncdu -x' means 'do not cross filesystem boundaries' then sde should
be a file, not another partition. Besides, a partition sde1 would not
fill up your root partition, as long as /dev/sde1 is not mounted as your
root partition.

> 
> $ mount | grep sde
> [nothing]

As sde1 is just a file, not a filesystem, it should no be listed under
mounts.

So, most likely some program wanted to write to /dev/sde1 but instead
wrote to /sde1 which was then filled up with data and now uses all the 
free space of your root partition. If you don't know, how it was generated,
just make a backup on a usb usb-stick (in case you remember what it
was good for, just after erasing it) and delete the file.

Juergen

Re: Accents i caracters especials al LibreOffice

[Narcis Garcia]

D'una finestra de terminal també estaria bé que obtinguessis el resultat
d'aquestes comandes:
echo $LANG
echo $LANGUAGE
echo $GDM_LANG

O si pots copiar in enganxar del correu, una de sola:
env | grep -ie lang


El 09/05/16 a les 00:00, Daniel ha escrit:
> Hola:
> 
> Vaig actualitzar el Debian a Jessie, i el LibreOffice va quedar a la
> versió 4.3.3.2. I des d'aquell moment, que tant en el Writer com en el
> Calc no em funcionen els accents i caracters especials. M'explico:
> intento posar música i m'apareix msica, és a dir, la lletra accentuada
> em desapareix. El LibreOffice està configurat en català, amb els seus
> diccionaris, i les lletres especials em funcionen en altres programes
> (com aquest). Us envio un text fet amb el Writer perquè ho vegeu.
> 
> Envio també una captura de la finestra que obre el LibreOffice per obrir
> fitxers i desar-los: els caracters accentuats i especials no apareixen
> correctament i quan cliques per obrir-los no els troba. Has d'arreglar a
> mà el caracter accentuat perquè funcioni.
> 
> En canvi, altres programes com el Gimp mostren els caracters accentuats
> correctament, tant al propi document com al nom del fitxer.
> 
> Em podeu ajudar?
> 

Wlan0 problems

[Ralph Sanchez]

Last night, i was continuing my tightening of security according to the
debain sites manual, and had pretty much finished with the securing
networks part...today, i start up my laptop and no wifi?? In the taskbar,
the wifi symbol has a question mark, hovering over it says
disconnected...but it is up in ifconfig, althougb next to up it says
Broadcast multicast (all caps) and it also says Link encap: ethernet, which
i dont think it did before. Help lol