Re: The Dreaded 'canberra-gtk-module' !

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:02:25 -0400
Alan McConnell  wrote:

Hello Alan,

>I can't find this module on my system, presumably because it is hidden
>in some sub-directory.  I think that I'm actually looking for
>libcanberra-gtk-module.

libcanberra-gtk-module is for creating/playing sound events.  All that
will happen if you install it is that mutt still won't do what you want,
but you'll get an error sound to tell you.

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Re: [Xfce] firefox-esr keeps reloading previous tabs on startup

[The Wanderer]

On 2016-06-23 at 21:26, Mike Kupfer wrote:

> Is anyone else on Jessie (x86_64) seeing a problem where Firefox 
> (45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1) wants to reload the tabs from the previous
> session, even when the preferences are set not to do that?
> 
> I normally use "show a blank page" on startup, but I was getting
> either the previous tabs or the "this is embarassing" screen (where
> FF tells me it was unable to restore the tabs).
> 
> I changed to "show my home page", and I would briefly see my home
> page before it was replaced by the "this is embarassing" screen.
> 
> The problem isn't 100% reproducible, but it's close to it.
> 
> I only have one extension (NoScript).  Disabling it didn't help.
> 
> I have a few plug-ins installed, but they are all set to Never
> Activate.
> 
> The problem seems tied to using exo-open.  I see the problem when I
> start Firefox via the "Web browser" entry in the main Xfce menu.  I
> don't see the problem if I invoke Firefox from the shell, Alt-F2, or
> a customer launcher (which just runs "firefox").
> 
> Any ideas?

Sounds like Firefox is thinking it crashed when it was last closed, and
so is automatically trying to restore the session which was running
before the crash.

I'd think there should be a way to prevent this auto-restore, but given
the settings you've said you already have in place, I don't know what it
would be. A bit of quick Googling suggests that the advanced preference
browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash may control the behavior, but I
can't say for certain.

Why Firefox is crashing (or closing in a way which it thinks is a crash)
is another question. I often see a duplicate "browsing session" and
"crashed session" in my session-history list, so the problem may be
happening here as well - but since I _want_ Firefox to restore tabs (and
have it set to prompt me for which session to restore, via an add-on for
the purpose), I've never had cause to dig into it.

I too launch Firefox (or rather, Iceweasel; I'm still on 38ESR, and have
seen my probably-the-same-issue symptom since at least 31ESR if not
24ESR) from a window-manager menu, although I run Enlightenment DR16
(locally built, since I keep not getting back to my effort to package it
for Debian again) rather than Xfce. Once upon a time I did habitually
launch it from a terminal window, but that was years ago, and I don't
know whether the problem happened back then.

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[Xfce] firefox-esr keeps reloading previous tabs on startup

[Mike Kupfer]

Is anyone else on Jessie (x86_64) seeing a problem where Firefox
(45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1) wants to reload the tabs from the previous session,
even when the preferences are set not to do that?

I normally use "show a blank page" on startup, but I was getting either
the previous tabs or the "this is embarassing" screen (where FF tells me
it was unable to restore the tabs).

I changed to "show my home page", and I would briefly see my home page
before it was replaced by the "this is embarassing" screen.

The problem isn't 100% reproducible, but it's close to it.

I only have one extension (NoScript).  Disabling it didn't help.

I have a few plug-ins installed, but they are all set to Never
Activate.

The problem seems tied to using exo-open.  I see the problem when I
start Firefox via the "Web browser" entry in the main Xfce menu.  I
don't see the problem if I invoke Firefox from the shell, Alt-F2, or a
customer launcher (which just runs "firefox").

Any ideas?

thanks,
mike

Re: SOLVED Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Brian]

On Fri 24 Jun 2016 at 00:05:12 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > A guaranteed technique is to install all
> > printing related packages.
> 
> Unless there are conflicts...

When you have installed the packages I mentioned you can come back
and tell us what the conflicts are. Meanwhile, the advice is good
and stands.

> > I thought all drivers were built for
> > all architectures.
> 
> We just saw the Samsung ULD for the Xpress
> M2026W - it was compiled for i386 and x86_64,
> but not ARM.

You can talk to Samsung about that. 

Re: SOLVED Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Emanuel Berg]

Brian  writes:

> A guaranteed technique is to install all
> printing related packages.

Unless there are conflicts...

> I thought all drivers were built for
> all architectures.

We just saw the Samsung ULD for the Xpress
M2026W - it was compiled for i386 and x86_64,
but not ARM.

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Re: Stretch, Radeon 4850, and backlight

[James Lay]

On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 15:32 -0600, James Lay wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 20:36 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 10:42 -0600, James Lay wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey all,
> > > 
> > > soI have an oldish iMac 24 inch.  It comes with a Radeon
> > > Mobility
> > > HD 4850.  After install of Stretch testing, this worked fine,
> > > save
> > > for
> > > one small issue of the backlight not going out.  As I run this as
> > > kind
> > > of a server with no need to see the screen most of the time, I'd
> > > like
> > > to get the backlight to go out.  So I installed firmware-linux-
> > > nonfree. 
> > >  This actually causes me to get a blank screen...just the
> > > backlight
> > > on.
> > >  I can ssh into the machine, but I get no screen at all (http://a
> > > skub
> > > un
> > > tu.com/questions/688388/14-04-gets-black-screen-unless-radeon-
> > > modeset-0
> > > ).  I DO however see the backlight go out.  Right now I'm using
> > > radeon.modeset=0 to get an active screen again.  My question is
> > > there
> > > any way I can troubleshoot getting the backlight to go out?  I've
> > > got
> > > to:
> > I found some old reports about video output being redirected to the
> > external display, that might be something to investigate?
> > 
> > You don't run X at all? If so I'm not quite sure of to check for
> > which
> > display is active or how to control backlight.
> > 
> Thanks for the quick response.  This currently is running X, but only
> with radeon.modeset=0 for kernel args.  Otherwise, the machine boots,
> just black screen.
> 
> 
> 
And after hooking up a second monitor it indeeds defaults to that
second monitor after running:
modprobe radeon modeset=1
Now..I do I tell the driver which monitor to use?  Thank you.

Re: The Dreaded 'canberra-gtk-module' !

[Michael Biebl]

Am 23.06.2016 um 22:02 schrieb Alan McConnell:
> My mutt will no longer put my text/html mail up on my iceweasel.
> The error message is:
>   Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

That error seems to be unrelated. canberra-gtk-module is for playing
event sounds, it's not involved in opening iceweasel from mutt.


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Re: Stretch, Radeon 4850, and backlight

[James Lay]

On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 20:36 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 10:42 -0600, James Lay wrote:
> > 
> > Hey all,
> > 
> > soI have an oldish iMac 24 inch.  It comes with a Radeon
> > Mobility
> > HD 4850.  After install of Stretch testing, this worked fine, save
> > for
> > one small issue of the backlight not going out.  As I run this as
> > kind
> > of a server with no need to see the screen most of the time, I'd
> > like
> > to get the backlight to go out.  So I installed firmware-linux-
> > nonfree. 
> >  This actually causes me to get a blank screen...just the backlight
> > on.
> >  I can ssh into the machine, but I get no screen at all (http://ask
> > ub
> > un
> > tu.com/questions/688388/14-04-gets-black-screen-unless-radeon-
> > modeset-0
> > ).  I DO however see the backlight go out.  Right now I'm using
> > radeon.modeset=0 to get an active screen again.  My question is
> > there
> > any way I can troubleshoot getting the backlight to go out?  I've
> > got
> > to:
> I found some old reports about video output being redirected to the
> external display, that might be something to investigate?
> 
> You don't run X at all? If so I'm not quite sure of to check for
> which
> display is active or how to control backlight.
> 
Thanks for the quick response.  This currently is running X, but only
with radeon.modeset=0 for kernel args.  Otherwise, the machine boots,
just black screen.

Re: Aprender o Debian.

[julio]

Os materiais on line são muito interessantes e agregam bastante no entanto, 
vale comprar livros específicos para o segmento dentro do debian, segmento qual 
que você deseja seguir. ..  

Tem ferramenta pra tudo. ...

Boa busca.


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De : Rodolfo  
Data: 23/06/2016  8h19  (GMT-03:00) 
Para: Luiz Carlos  
Cc: debian-user-portuguese  
Assunto: Re: Aprender o Debian. 
 
Amigo, aconselho muito esse aqui:

http://www.guiafoca.org/

Em 23 de junho de 2016 00:21, Luiz Carlos  escreveu:
Eu queria aprender mais a fundo o debian, uso ele desde de 2009, mas só instalo 
o sistema e uso ele como usuário final, o que me recomendam?

Re: Désactiver par alsa une carte son

[Sébastien NOBILI]

Bonsoir,


Le jeudi 23 juin 2016 à 17:42, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
> La sortie HP de mon ordinateur portable DELL D430
> ne fonctionne plus. J'ai du son seulement sur l'unique HP de mon
> ordinateur portable. Il est impossible de désactiver la carte son du PC
> portable par le bios. J'ai acheté une carte son usb TERRATEC, j'ai
> branché mais j'ai toujours du son sur le HP de mon ordinateur portable,
> je n'ai toujours pas de son sur la sortie casque de la carte son usb.

Je n’ai eu à faire ça qu’une fois, pour désactiver la carte son interne (et
médiocre) de mon Raspberry Pi.

J’ai simplement mis le module en liste noire :

blacklist snd_bcm2835

Tu ne pourrais pas faire quelque chose de ce genre ?

Sébastien

Re: The Dreaded 'canberra-gtk-module' !

[Michael Milliman]

On 06/23/2016 03:02 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:

My mutt will no longer put my text/html mail up on my iceweasel.
The error message is:
   Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
The difficulty seemed to occur after I had done some alterations
to my system, trying to get my _printer_(sic) to work.

I can't find this module on my system, presumably because it is hidden in
some sub-directory.  I think that I'm actually looking for
libcanberra-gtk-module.

Has anyone else had this difficulty? do you know where
libcanberra-gtk-module is hiding?
Check the installed files tab of the properties window for 
libcanberra-gtk-module.  If the module is not installed, Synaptic will 
tell you that, if it is, the Installed Files tab will tell you were 
pretty much everything is.


TIA for assistance!

Alan



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The Dreaded 'canberra-gtk-module' !

[Alan McConnell]

My mutt will no longer put my text/html mail up on my iceweasel.
The error message is:
  Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
The difficulty seemed to occur after I had done some alterations
to my system, trying to get my _printer_(sic) to work.

I can't find this module on my system, presumably because it is hidden in
some sub-directory.  I think that I'm actually looking for
libcanberra-gtk-module.

Has anyone else had this difficulty? do you know where
libcanberra-gtk-module is hiding?

TIA for assistance!

Alan

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Re: boot failure only on first try when starting computer

[Norbert Kiszka]

Dnia 2016-06-23, czw o godzinie 09:14 +0200, Peter Baranyi pisze:
> hi,
> 
> when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,
> on the first try it always freezes right after the grub menu. Then
> when I press reset, it always boots correctly. I have one SATA SSD (/,
> /home), one SATA HDD (only storage) and one M2 NVME SSD (not even
> mounted, has Windows).
> 
> How do I fix this? Thanks!
> Peter
> 

Sounds like a motherboard problem.

BTW, how old is? Also, how old is Your psu?

Anyway, drop quiet from kernel command line (in grub.cfg) to see early
messages and upgrade Your bios.

Re: Debian Testing Cannot be installed on Hyper-V 2012 R2

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 13:45 +0800, Larry Sevilla wrote:
> Package: debian-installer
> Version: debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso  dated 2016-06-20 07:33
> 391Mb
> 
> I'm trying to install Debian Testing under Hyper-V Windows Server
> 2012 R2.
> 
> mem: Start-up 1024Mb Dynamic Min 512Mb Max 3584
> proc: 2
> vhdx: 10Gb
> 
> Install it using non-GUI.
> 
> Then It freezes during:
>    Partitions formatting at 33%
>    Creating ext4 file system for / in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0)
> (sda)...
> 
> Note: I have installed Debian 7/Wheezy 7.11 and 8/Jessie 8.5 on
> Hyper-V;
>   so far no problem on installation with the two versions...


It might be a temporary problem with the testing installer image. Have
you filed a bug?

You could just use the jessie installer and dist-upgrade to testing.

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Re: boot failure only on first try when starting computer

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 09:14 +0200, Peter Baranyi wrote:
> hi,
> 
> when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,
> on the first try it always freezes right after the grub menu. Then
> when I press reset, it always boots correctly. I have one SATA SSD
> (/,
> /home), one SATA HDD (only storage) and one M2 NVME SSD (not even
> mounted, has Windows).

Odd, any messages on the console before the freeze?

Making sure that you have up to date firmware/BIOS and microcode
updates is probably a good first step. Apparently Skylake have been
plagued with various issues.

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Neomutt packages available

[Elimar Riesebieter]

Hi all,

I am pleased to announce the availability of neomutt [0] packages for
Debian. Hints for installation you'll find at [1].

I've packaged neomutt for Debian. A Debian ITP [2] is filed. The
binaries are build in a sid environment. The sources are fetched
from [3]. The neomutt branch is used. I'll update packages as
needed. Please test the packages and let me know of any further
glitches you find. If you want, you can open an issue on [3]. The
Debian Bug Tracking System is not involved as the package isn't
uploaded yet, but will be soon.

Packages for amd64, i386 and ppc can be installed from [1].

Thanks in advance for your cooperation

Elimar

[0] http://www.neomutt.org/
[1] http://www.lxtec.de/debarchiv
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825821
[3] https://github.com/neomutt/neomutt

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Re: SOLVED Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Brian]

On Thu 23 Jun 2016 at 20:33:29 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > Do you mean this?: A user has or intends to
> > buy, for example, an HP LaserJet P1102w.
> > How does she determine whether Debian has
> > a PPD and driver for it and what package to
> > install to get them?
> 
> Yes.

A guaranteed technique is to install all printing related packages.

When Debian is installed it offers to install a Print Server task.
Newcomers (and others) who do this can use the web interface or 'lpinfo
-m' to get a complete list of supported printers. If the printer you
have is not listed you can be virtually assured you will have to use the
manufacturer's resources to set the device up.

If for some reason this task is not initially installed it can be
installed later with

  apt-get install task-print-server

A user would well advised to look at openprinting,org as a first step in
installing a print queue. It is usually possible to work out the name of
the required package on Debian from the advice there. Taking the
recommended option is not a bad choice.

Installing printer-driver-all is also a good move (but it does not give
you the same as task-print-server). It would lead to lpinfo giving you
the alternatives for your HP LaserJet P1102w.

> Also: a driver for the particular architecture.

I thought all drivers were built for all architectures.

Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[deloptes]

deloptes wrote:

> Don Armstrong wrote:
> 
>> The error would be useful to know. Most likely one or more of them
>> dropped out of the array for some reason and you're booting off of one
>> which has a lower event count and it won't assemble.
>> 
>> But it could be any number of things.
>> 
>> The output of mdadm --examine /dev/sd[abcdef]1; when md0 fails to
>> assemble would also be useful.
> 
> In my case it is Dell OptiPlex 7xx - I have it under the desk for 2y now -
> but it looks like it is 5y old.
> When I looked into the drives they were detected but md disks seemed to be
> messed and not easy recovarable.
> 
> What I observed that only raid0 was loaded but not raid1. After removing
> raid0 and loading raid1 I was able to see at least the partitions of the
> drives but I did not have time to go further, so as I had to do a lot in
> the office and @home I just shut it down. I hope I'll have some time next
> week to play with that. Good that I do not need a remote machine at the
> moment.
> 
> I hope this helps
> 
> regards

Just FYI

I managed to solve this on the OptiPlex today - it took me 3h and several
reboots.

The thing is that the BIOS is locked by the admins and the built in raid
controller can not be deactivated. Thus obviously when upgrading the array
info was dumped into mdadm.conf from the built in array or may be even
before - I don't know, which lead to broken initrd.

When in the initramfs shell I had to unload all related modules because I
had only sda and sdb (no prtitions). After loading ata_piix I get all the
partitions and loading raid1 + ext4 was enough to start raid and mount
root.
mdadm -A -R /dev/md0 etc

then
mount -o bind /proc /root/proc 
sys, run, dev ...

mount /dev/md2 /root
cd /root

exec /sbin/chroot . /bin/sh <<- EOF >dev/console 2>&1
exec /sbin/init ${CMDLINE}
EOF

install 3.16 kernel and update-initramfs, but first remove the wrong ARRAY
info from mdadm.conf

DONE.

messy

regards

Problema con los logs de systemd

[sio2]

Antes de nada, un saludo a la lista después de da tanto tiempo.

Tengo un problema con mi servidor jessie, pero no sé cómo narices
meterle mano. Resulta que los logs quye pueden verse con journalctl han
dejado de generarse. Los tradicionales siguen escribiéndose.

Puedo ver el siguiente fallo:

# systemctl --state failed
  UNIT  LOAD   ACTIVE SUBDESCRIPTION
  ● systemd-journal-flush.service loaded failed failed Trigger Flushing of 
Journal to Persistent Storage


Curioseando he visto que este servicio depende de
systemd-journald.service, que tampoco arranca:

# systemctl status systemd-journald
● systemd-journald.service
   Loaded: error (Reason: Invalid argument)
  Active: inactive (dead)

Creo que este a su vez necesita systemd-journald.socket:

# systemctl status systemd-journald.socket 
● systemd-journald.socket - Journal Socket
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journald.socket; static)
   Active: inactive (dead)
 Docs: man:systemd-journald.service(8)
   man:journald.conf(5)
   Listen: /run/systemd/journal/stdout (Stream)
   /run/systemd/journal/socket (Datagram)

que tampoco arranca. El problema es que si los intento arrancar a mano
para ver qué ocurre:

# systemctl start systemd-journald.socket
Job for systemd-journald.socket failed. See 'systemctl status
systemd-journald.socket' and 'journalctl -xn' for details

Me sugiere que consulte los logs que, precisamente, no puedo generar. Y
claro no sé por dónde tirar. He mirado a ver si había alguna modo de
arrancar el servicio de modo que escupiera los erroes por pantalla, pero
no he encontrado nada.

¿Se os ocurre algo? Gracias de antemano.

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Re: Mapa Mental

[Leonardo Rocha]

On 23-06-2016 13:13, Marcelo wrote:
> Se quiser expandir o tema pesquise sobre 'Mapa Conceitual', uma abordagem 
> pedagógica bem consolidada. 
> Entre os programas disponíveis, temos o CmapsTools.
> 
> Até.
> 
> Marcelo
> 
>> Em 23 de jun de 2016, às 12:27, Antonio Terceiro  
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:15:05PM -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:00:55PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:


> On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
>> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
>>
>> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
>> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
>> Debian Testing.
>>
>> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
>>
>>
>> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
>> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
>
> yvm - View Your Mind
>
> está no repositório
 A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
 como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
 essa dependência atendida.

 De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
 Interface muito agradável.
>>>
>>> não, você não entendeu. vym - View Your Mind é o nome de um programa de mapa
>>> mental , que está no repositório. ;-)
>>>
>>> $ apt show vym
>>> Package: vym
>>
>> e `apt search mind map` traz pelo menos outros 2, `treesheets` e
>> `freeplane`.
>>
>> Package: treesheets
>> Description-en: Data organizer that covers spreadsheets, mind mappers, and 
>> small databases
>> Suitable for any kind of data organization, such as Todo lists, calendars,
>> project management, brainstorming, organizing ideas, planning, requirements
>> gathering, presentation of information, etc.
>> .
>> It shares many characteristics with more familiar tools, and augments their
>> abilities - like a spreadsheet, but supporting hierarchical data; like a mind
>> mapper, but more organized and compact; like an outliner, but in more than 
>> one
>> dimension; and like a text editor, but with structure.
>>
>> Package: freeplane
>> Description-en: Java program for working with Mind Maps
>> Freeplane is a free and open source software application that supports
>> thinking, sharing information and getting things done at work, in school
>> and at home. The core of the software is tools for mind mapping (also
>> known as concept mapping or information mapping) and using mapped
>> information.
>> .
>> Occupying the middle ground between an editor and a diagramming tool,
>> Freeplane allows the user to add content as quickly and naturally as they
>> would in a text editor, yet producing structured content that can be
>> manipulated as easily as a diagram.
>> .
>> Features include ordering ideas in nodes and freely positionable
>> nodes, connecting nodes, automatic/conditional styles, scripting,
>> add-ons, LaTeX, search/filtering, different export features, printing,
>> password protection of nodes/maps and more.
>> .
>> See http://freeplane.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page for a full
>> list of applications and features.
>>
> 
Sim, sobre mapa mental eu conheço também. Já ministrei cursos com o
CmapTools para professores da rede estadual de educação de Rondônia.
Muito bom também.

Abraço Marcelo.

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Re: Stretch, Radeon 4850, and backlight

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 10:42 -0600, James Lay wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> soI have an oldish iMac 24 inch.  It comes with a Radeon Mobility
> HD 4850.  After install of Stretch testing, this worked fine, save
> for
> one small issue of the backlight not going out.  As I run this as
> kind
> of a server with no need to see the screen most of the time, I'd like
> to get the backlight to go out.  So I installed firmware-linux-
> nonfree. 
>  This actually causes me to get a blank screen...just the backlight
> on.
>  I can ssh into the machine, but I get no screen at all (http://askub
> un
> tu.com/questions/688388/14-04-gets-black-screen-unless-radeon-
> modeset-0
> ).  I DO however see the backlight go out.  Right now I'm using
> radeon.modeset=0 to get an active screen again.  My question is there
> any way I can troubleshoot getting the backlight to go out?  I've got
> to:

I found some old reports about video output being redirected to the
external display, that might be something to investigate?

You don't run X at all? If so I'm not quite sure of to check for which
display is active or how to control backlight.

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Re: Mapa Mental

[Leonardo Rocha]

On 23-06-2016 12:15, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:00:55PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
 Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!

 estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
 de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
 Debian Testing.

 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java


 Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
 algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
>>>
>>> yvm - View Your Mind
>>>
>>> está no repositório
>>>
>> A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
>> como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
>> essa dependência atendida.
>>
>> De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
>> Interface muito agradável.
> 
> não, você não entendeu. vym - View Your Mind é o nome de um programa de mapa
> mental , que está no repositório. ;-)
> 
> $ apt show vym
> Package: vym
> Version: 2.5.0-2
> Priority: optional
> Section: kde
> Maintainer: Pierre Chifflier 
> Installed-Size: 7.502 kB
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, 
> libqt5core5a (>= 5.5.0), libqt5dbus5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.2.0), 
> libqt5network5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5printsupport5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5svg5 (>= 
> 5.0.2), libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.2.0), libqt5xml5 (>= 5.1.0), libstdc++6 (>= 
> 5.2), zip, unzip, xsltproc
> Suggests: ruby | ruby-interpreter
> Homepage: http://www.insilmaril.de/vym/
> Tag: implemented-in::c++, interface::graphical, interface::x11,
>  role::program, scope::utility, uitoolkit::qt, use::editing,
>  use::learning, use::organizing, use::viewing, works-with-format::xml,
>  works-with::image, works-with::text, x11::application
> Download-Size: 2.723 kB
> APT-Sources: http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
> Description: mindmapping tool
>  Vym is a mind mapping program. It is useful to organize thoughts and
>  do structure work. In addition to that it has a lot of helpful
>  shortcuts.
>  .
>  A mindmap is a multicolored and image centered radial diagram that
>  represents semantic or other connections between portions of learned
>  material.  For example, it can graphically illustrate the structure
>  of a thesis outline, a project plan, or the government institutions
>  in a state.  Mindmaps have many applications in personal, family,
>  educational, and business situations.  Possibilities include
>  note-taking, brainstorming, summarizing, revising and general
>  clarifying of thoughts.
> 
Ah legal Terceiro, obrigado pela dica. Não tinha entendido mesmo.

Vou testar ele.

Abraço.

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Re: SOLVED Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Emanuel Berg]

Brian  writes:

> Do you mean this?: A user has or intends to
> buy, for example, an HP LaserJet P1102w.
> How does she determine whether Debian has
> a PPD and driver for it and what package to
> install to get them?

Yes.

Also: a driver for the particular architecture.

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Disable a sound card

[Alex PADOLY]

 

Hi, 

The speaker output of my DELL laptop D430 doesn't work, I have
sound only by the speaker of my laptop. It is impossible to desactive
Intel sound card by the bios. 

I bought a usb sound card Terratec. I
always have a sound on the speaker of my laptob but no sound 

on output
of usb sound card. I think there is a conflit between Intel sound card
and usb sound card. 

This is a file alsa-base.conf : 

# autoloader
aliases 

install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0 

install
sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1 

install sound-slot-2
/sbin/modprobe snd-card-2 

install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe
snd-card-3 

install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4 

install
sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5 

install sound-slot-6
/sbin/modprobe snd-card-6 

install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe
snd-card-7 

# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules


install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe
--quiet snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq ; : ; } 

install
snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi && {
/sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ; } 

install snd-emu10k1
/sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet
snd-emu10k1-synth ; : ; } 

# Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first
soundcard 

#options snd-pcsp index=-2 

Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing
loaded as first soundcard 

options snd-usb-audio index=-2 

# Prevent
abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0 

options bt87x index=-2


options cx88_alsa index=-2 

options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2


options snd-intel8x0m index=-2 

options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2


This a file alsa-base-blacklist.conf 

# Uncomment these entries in
order to blacklist unwanted modem drivers 

# blacklist snd-atiixp-modem


# blacklist snd-intel8x0m 

# blacklist snd-via82xx-modem 

# Comment
this entry in order to load snd-pcsp driver 

blacklist snd-pcsp 

Thank
you for your help. 

Alex PADOLY 
 

Désactiver par alsa une carte son

[Alex PADOLY]

 

Bonsoir à tous, 

La sortie HP de mon ordinateur portable DELL D430
ne fonctionne plus. J'ai du son seulement sur l'unique HP de mon
ordinateur portable. Il est impossible de désactiver la carte son du PC
portable par le bios. J'ai acheté une carte son usb TERRATEC, j'ai
branché mais j'ai toujours du son sur le HP de mon ordinateur portable,
je n'ai toujours pas de son sur la sortie casque de la carte son usb.


Voici mon fichier alsa-base.conf : 

# autoloader aliases 

install
sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0 

install sound-slot-1
/sbin/modprobe snd-card-1 

install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe
snd-card-2 

install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3 

install
sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4 

install sound-slot-5
/sbin/modprobe snd-card-5 

install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe
snd-card-6 

install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7 

# Cause
optional modules to be loaded above generic modules 

install snd
/sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet
snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq ; : ; } 

install
snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi && {
/sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ; } 

install snd-emu10k1
/sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet
snd-emu10k1-synth ; : ; } 

# Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first
soundcard 

#options snd-pcsp index=-2 

Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing
loaded as first soundcard 

options snd-usb-audio index=-2 

# Prevent
abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0 

options bt87x index=-2


options cx88_alsa index=-2 

options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2


options snd-intel8x0m index=-2 

options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2


Voici mon fichier alsa-base-blacklist.conf 

# Uncomment these entries
in order to blacklist unwanted modem drivers 

# blacklist
snd-atiixp-modem 

# blacklist snd-intel8x0m 

# blacklist
snd-via82xx-modem 

# Comment this entry in order to load snd-pcsp
driver 

blacklist snd-pcsp 

Merci pour vos conseils. 
 

Re: SOLVED Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Brian]

On Thu 23 Jun 2016 at 18:07:15 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > It would also have found hpcups and hpijs
> > PPDs, unless the packages had been removed.
> > Given the extra step of having to install
> > a non-free plugin and seeing foo2zjs is
> > recommended would be a good enough reason for
> > choosing foo2zjs:
> >
> >  lpadmin -p  -v  -E -m 
> >
> > A 10 second job after the preparatory work is
> > done. :)
> 
> Yes, what remains is what packages need to
> be installed.

Do you mean this?: A user has or intends to buy, for example, an
HP LaserJet P1102w. How does she determine whether Debian has a
PPD and driver for it and what package to install to get them?
Sorry to be a little pedantic but it would be good to be clear on
what an answer should address?

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Re: off topic: chromebook

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 23 June 2016 13:19:10 Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> A Google search for 'emacs on chromebook' [snip]

> On Thursday 23 June 2016 14:17:33 Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote: 
> However, possibly i like to install Emacs on Debian Linux or *BSD.

But you said that you wanted to run it on a Chromebook, and that was all you 
wanted:

On Thursday 23 June 2016 12:07:47 Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:
> Is there chromebook to run Emacs?
>
> I need only Emacs! Performance is enough if it runs Emacs.

What DO you want??

Lisi

Stretch, Radeon 4850, and backlight

[James Lay]

Hey all,

soI have an oldish iMac 24 inch.  It comes with a Radeon Mobility
HD 4850.  After install of Stretch testing, this worked fine, save for
one small issue of the backlight not going out.  As I run this as kind
of a server with no need to see the screen most of the time, I'd like
to get the backlight to go out.  So I installed firmware-linux-nonfree. 
 This actually causes me to get a blank screen...just the backlight on.
 I can ssh into the machine, but I get no screen at all (http://askubun
tu.com/questions/688388/14-04-gets-black-screen-unless-radeon-modeset-0
).  I DO however see the backlight go out.  Right now I'm using
radeon.modeset=0 to get an active screen again.  My question is there
any way I can troubleshoot getting the backlight to go out?  I've got
to:

https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI

But I'm just not having much success.  Thanks for any assistance you
can giveinfo below.  lspci and dmesg:##SELECTION_END##

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] RV770/M98L [Mobility Radeon HD 4850]
[   10.356922] [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in
radeon module!


dmesg without the modeset:
[   10.914802] radeon :02:00.0: VRAM: 512M 0x -
0x1FFF (512M used)
[   10.914804] radeon :02:00.0: GTT: 1024M 0x2000 -
0x5FFF
[   10.914806] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=512M, BAR=256M
[   10.914807] [drm] RAM width 256bits DDR
[   10.914869] [TTM] Zone  kernel: Available graphics memory: 4088066
kiB
[   10.914870] [TTM] Zone   dma32: Available graphics memory: 2097152
kiB
[   10.914871] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator
[   10.914876] [TTM] Initializing DMA pool allocator
[   10.914895] [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready
[   10.914896] [drm] radeon: 1024M of GTT memory ready.
[   10.914908] [drm] Loading RV770 Microcode
[   10.985259] radeon :02:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
radeon/RV770_pfp.bin
[   11.015010] radeon :02:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
radeon/RV770_me.bin
[   11.283904] radeon :02:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
radeon/R700_rlc.bin
[   11.285010] radeon :02:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
radeon/RV770_smc.bin
[   11.285019] [drm] External GPIO thermal controller with fan control
[   11.285034] [drm] radeon: power management initialized
[   11.437289] radeon :02:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
radeon/RV770_uvd.bin
[   11.437338] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 262144, num gpu pages 262144
[   11.438616] [drm] enabling PCIE gen 2 link speeds, disable with
radeon.pcie_gen2=0
[   11.441386] [drm] PCIE GART of 1024M enabled (table at
0x00258000).
[   11.441422] radeon :02:00.0: WB enabled
[   11.441425] radeon :02:00.0: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr
0x2c00 and cpu addr 0x8800bdd54c00
[   11.441427] radeon :02:00.0: fence driver on ring 3 use gpu addr
0x2c0c and cpu addr 0x8800bdd54c0c
[   11.441903] radeon :02:00.0: fence driver on ring 5 use gpu addr
0x00056230 and cpu addr 0xc90001416230
[   11.441905] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2
(21.10.2013).
[   11.441906] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
[   11.441908] radeon :02:00.0: radeon: MSI limited to 32-bit
[   11.441938] radeon :02:00.0: radeon: using MSI.
[   11.441963] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[   11.488229] [drm] ring test on 0 succeeded in 1 usecs
[   11.488235] [drm] ring test on 3 succeeded in 2 usecs
[   11.662883] [drm] ring test on 5 succeeded in 1 usecs
[   11.662890] [drm] UVD initialized successfully.
[   11.663277] [drm] ib test on ring 0 succeeded in 0 usecs
[   11.663292] [drm] ib test on ring 3 succeeded in 0 usecs
[   12.312126] [drm] ib test on ring 5 succeeded
[   12.312699] [drm] radeon atom DIG backlight initialized
[   12.312702] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[   12.312703] [drm] Connector 0:
[   12.312704] [drm]   DP-1
[   12.312705] [drm]   HPD2
[   12.312706] [drm]   DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68
0x7e6c 0x7e6c
[   12.312707] [drm]   Encoders:
[   12.312708] [drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
[   12.312709] [drm] Connector 1:
[   12.312710] [drm]   DP-2
[   12.312711] [drm]   HPD3
[   12.312712] [drm]   DDC: 0x7e20 0x7e20 0x7e24 0x7e24 0x7e28 0x7e28
0x7e2c 0x7e2c
[   12.312713] [drm]   Encoders:
[   12.312714] [drm] DFP2: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
[   12.312715] [drm] Connector 2:
[   12.312716] [drm]   LVDS-1
[   12.312717] [drm]   Encoders:
[   12.312718] [drm] LCD1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_LVTMA
[   12.312719] [drm] Connector 3:
[   12.312719] [drm]   VGA-1
[   12.312721] [drm]   DDC: 0x7e40 0x7e40 0x7e44 0x7e44 0x7e48 0x7e48
0x7e4c 0x7e4c
[   12.312722] [drm]   Encoders:
[   12.312723] [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
[   13.005463] [drm] fb mappable at 0xC0459000
[   13.005465] [drm] vram apper at 0xC000
[   13.005466] [drm] size 5947392
[   13.005467] [drm] fb 

Re: off topic: chromebook

[Curt]

On 2016-06-23, =?UTF-8?B?Qnl1bmctSGVlIEhXQU5HICjtmanrs5Htnawp?= 
 wrote:
> On 2016년 6월 24일 오전 1시 8분 38초 GMT+09:00, Curt  wrote:
>> [...]
>>Another possibility is to run Debian on a Chromebook within a chroot
>>(open source project):
>>
>>https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
>
> Crouton: it seems easy to install something. 

Yes, I believe it's the least risky alternative.

> Firstly i will try it after buy chromebook. 
>
> Thanks Curt!
>
> Sincerely,
>


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so entirely in harmony with the demagogic appeals to cultural democracy that
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plutocratic capitalism. - Susan Sontag

Re: Mapa Mental

[Marcelo]

Se quiser expandir o tema pesquise sobre 'Mapa Conceitual', uma abordagem 
pedagógica bem consolidada. 
Entre os programas disponíveis, temos o CmapsTools.

Até.

Marcelo

> Em 23 de jun de 2016, às 12:27, Antonio Terceiro  
> escreveu:
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:15:05PM -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:00:55PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
> 
> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
> Debian Testing.
> 
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
> 
> 
> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
 
 yvm - View Your Mind
 
 está no repositório
>>> A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
>>> como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
>>> essa dependência atendida.
>>> 
>>> De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
>>> Interface muito agradável.
>> 
>> não, você não entendeu. vym - View Your Mind é o nome de um programa de mapa
>> mental , que está no repositório. ;-)
>> 
>> $ apt show vym
>> Package: vym
> 
> e `apt search mind map` traz pelo menos outros 2, `treesheets` e
> `freeplane`.
> 
> Package: treesheets
> Description-en: Data organizer that covers spreadsheets, mind mappers, and 
> small databases
> Suitable for any kind of data organization, such as Todo lists, calendars,
> project management, brainstorming, organizing ideas, planning, requirements
> gathering, presentation of information, etc.
> .
> It shares many characteristics with more familiar tools, and augments their
> abilities - like a spreadsheet, but supporting hierarchical data; like a mind
> mapper, but more organized and compact; like an outliner, but in more than one
> dimension; and like a text editor, but with structure.
> 
> Package: freeplane
> Description-en: Java program for working with Mind Maps
> Freeplane is a free and open source software application that supports
> thinking, sharing information and getting things done at work, in school
> and at home. The core of the software is tools for mind mapping (also
> known as concept mapping or information mapping) and using mapped
> information.
> .
> Occupying the middle ground between an editor and a diagramming tool,
> Freeplane allows the user to add content as quickly and naturally as they
> would in a text editor, yet producing structured content that can be
> manipulated as easily as a diagram.
> .
> Features include ordering ideas in nodes and freely positionable
> nodes, connecting nodes, automatic/conditional styles, scripting,
> add-ons, LaTeX, search/filtering, different export features, printing,
> password protection of nodes/maps and more.
> .
> See http://freeplane.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page for a full
> list of applications and features.
> 

Re: Como adcionar reposítorio sid e experimental de modo que..

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 01:03:48PM -0300, Luiz Carlos wrote:
> Oi deu um erro na digitação, a pergunta é:
> De modo que eu possa dar apt-get upgrade e atualizar somente pacotes usando
> repositório da testes/testing?
> Quero pegar apenas pacotes do sid e experimenal usando apt-get install -t
> sid/experimental nomedopacote

foi isso que eu tinha entendido, e a minha reposta continua valendo.


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Re: off topic: chromebook

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

On 2016년 6월 24일 오전 1시 8분 38초 GMT+09:00, Curt  wrote:
> [...]
>Another possibility is to run Debian on a Chromebook within a chroot
>(open source project):
>
>https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton

Crouton: it seems easy to install something. 

Firstly i will try it after buy chromebook. 

Thanks Curt!

Sincerely,

-- 
^고맙습니다 감사합니다_^))//

Re: off topic: chromebook

[Curt]

On 2016-06-23, =?UTF-8?B?Qnl1bmctSGVlIEhXQU5HICjtmanrs5Htnawp?= 
 wrote:
>>
>>Not a complete list, but perhaps this is worthwile:
>>
>>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/
>>
>>Two randomly chosen Chromebooks there:
>>
>>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Acer/C710-2615-Chromebook
>>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/ARMChromebook
>>
>>Typically you'll get problems with some hardware support (suspend,
>>bluetooth, video...) but those are not crucial for Emacs to work
>>properly.
>>
>>But perhaps I didn't understand you properly.
>>
>>Regards
>>- -- tomás
>
> Yes, tomas, welcome to comments!
>

Another possibility is to run Debian on a Chromebook within a chroot
(open source project):

https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton

-- 
Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic and
so entirely in harmony with the demagogic appeals to cultural democracy that
accompany (and distract one’s attention from) the ever-tightening grip of 
plutocratic capitalism. - Susan Sontag

Re: SOLVED Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Emanuel Berg]

Brian  writes:

> It would also have found hpcups and hpijs
> PPDs, unless the packages had been removed.
> Given the extra step of having to install
> a non-free plugin and seeing foo2zjs is
> recommended would be a good enough reason for
> choosing foo2zjs:
>
>  lpadmin -p  -v  -E -m 
>
> A 10 second job after the preparatory work is
> done. :)

Yes, what remains is what packages need to
be installed.

-- 
underground experts united  http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
Emacs Gnus Blogomatic . http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic
   - so far: 55 Blogomatic articles -   

Re: Como adcionar reposítorio sid e experimental de modo que..

[Luiz Carlos]

Oi deu um erro na digitação, a pergunta é:
De modo que eu possa dar apt-get upgrade e atualizar somente pacotes usando
repositório da testes/testing?
Quero pegar apenas pacotes do sid e experimenal usando apt-get install -t
sid/experimental nomedopacote

Em 22 de junho de 2016 07:50, Antonio Terceiro 
escreveu:

> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 08:32:14PM -0300, Luiz Carlos wrote:
> > Eu Posso dar apt-get upgrade e atualizar SOMENTE da testes?
>
> pode
>
> > Quero Pegar APENAS sid e usando experimental apt-get install -t ...
>
> isso é o default para a experimental.
>
> para a unstable, você quer usar pinning na configuração do APT. tente
> colocar o seguinte em /etc/apt/preferences.d/unstable:
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: 50
>
> se você quiser entender como exatamente isso funciona, veja a manpage
> apt_preferences(1)
>
> $ man apt_preferences
>

Re: Aprender o Debian.

[Emerson Sobreiro]

Meu Caro,

Além do material que recomendaram que realmente é muito bom eu diria ser
primordial instalar um servidor em casa, pode ser físico ou um virtualizado
assim com um só computador pode simular um ambiente de rede.

Instale uma versão Netinstall do Debian ou seja sem interface gráfica e
comece pelos comandos básicos. Depois suba servidores um a um: SSH, DHCP,
Samba, Squid, Iptables.

Se tiver dificuldades ou dúvidas faça uma postagem que respondemos.

Abraço,

Emerson Monteiro Sobreiro

Re: Mapa Mental

[Gabriel Lima]

Obrigado.
Consegui intender. Parece uma boa ferramenta!

Att;
Gabriel Lima

> Em 23 de jun de 2016, às 12:40, Emerson Sobreiro  escreveu:
> 
> Caro Gabriel Lima,
> 
> Software de mapa mental são programas utilizados para organizar informações 
> de forma gráfica com linhas de relacionamento como por exemplo organizar 
> linha de estudo, mapa de sites, linha de administração, etc. Ou seja uma 
> linha de pensamento.
> 
> Abraço,
> 
> Emerson M. Sobreiro
> 
> Em 23 de junho de 2016 12:17, Gabriel Lima  
> escreveu:
>> Desculpem a minha ignorância mas o que é mapa mental?
>> 
>> Att;
>> Gabriel Lima
>> 
>> > Em 23 de jun de 2016, às 12:00, Leonardo Rocha  
>> > escreveu:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
>> >>> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
>> >>>
>> >>> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
>> >>> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
>> >>> Debian Testing.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
>> >>> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
>> >>
>> >> yvm - View Your Mind
>> >>
>> >> está no repositório
>> > A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
>> > como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
>> > essa dependência atendida.
>> >
>> > De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
>> > Interface muito agradável.
>> >
>> > Obrigado.
>> > --
>> > Leonardo Rocha
>> > 4096R/7E7D1FE2
>> > about.me/leonardo.rocha
>> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ==
> Emerson Monteiro Sobreiro
> (0XX11) 98387-1876
> emo...@gmail.com
> ==

Re: flashplayer et Linux

[Jean Bernon]

J'ai la même impression qu'Eric. Shockwave Flash est l'habillage de pepper... 
et d'ailleurs quand je change de version de pepper... je vois le numéro de 
version se répercuter dans le shockwave de Firefox. Par exemple pour l'instant 
mon plugin affiché dans Firefox est Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0, exactement la même 
que dans Chromium qui d'ailleurs affiche lui aussi comme nom de plugin 
"Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0" et précise son emplacement 
/usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so (voir mon message 
précédent). 

- Mail original -

> De: "Eric Degenetais" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Cc: "ML Debian User French" 
> Envoyé: Jeudi 23 Juin 2016 17:10:51
> Objet: Re: flashplayer et Linux

> J'ai l'impression qu'il s'agit juste d'affichage, le wrapper affiche
> pepper en tant que "Shockwave Flash". Peut-être qu'il affiche le
> Flash
> d'origine comme Shockwave Flash également...
> __
> Éric Dégenètais
> Henix

> http://www.henix.com
> http://www.squashtest.org

> Le 23 juin 2016 à 15:13,  a écrit :
> > On Thursday 23 June 2016 14:23:46 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
> >> Mais il n'y a jamais de pepperflashplugin dans Firefox.
> >> Il y a juste Shockwave Flash ...
> >
> > Oui mais pourquoi ?
> >
> > Tous les deux sont des plugins et pourquoi l'un a le privilège
> > de figurer dans les plugins de Firefox et pas l'autre ?
> >
> > André
> >

Re: Mapa Mental

[Emerson Sobreiro]

Caro Gabriel Lima,

Software de mapa mental são programas utilizados para organizar informações
de forma gráfica com linhas de relacionamento como por exemplo organizar
linha de estudo, mapa de sites, linha de administração, etc. Ou seja uma
linha de pensamento.

Abraço,

Emerson M. Sobreiro

Em 23 de junho de 2016 12:17, Gabriel Lima 
escreveu:

> Desculpem a minha ignorância mas o que é mapa mental?
>
> Att;
> Gabriel Lima
>
> > Em 23 de jun de 2016, às 12:00, Leonardo Rocha 
> escreveu:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
> >>> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
> >>>
> >>> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a
> remoção
> >>> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental)
> do
> >>> Debian Testing.
> >>>
> >>> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
> >>> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
> >>
> >> yvm - View Your Mind
> >>
> >> está no repositório
> > A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
> > como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
> > essa dependência atendida.
> >
> > De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
> > Interface muito agradável.
> >
> > Obrigado.
> > --
> > Leonardo Rocha
> > 4096R/7E7D1FE2
> > about.me/leonardo.rocha
> >
>
>


-- 
==
Emerson Monteiro Sobreiro
(0XX11) 98387-1876
emo...@gmail.com
==

Re: Mapa Mental

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:15:05PM -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:00:55PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
> > >> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
> > >>
> > >> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
> > >> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
> > >> Debian Testing.
> > >>
> > >> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
> > >> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
> > > 
> > > yvm - View Your Mind
> > > 
> > > está no repositório
> > > 
> > A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
> > como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
> > essa dependência atendida.
> > 
> > De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
> > Interface muito agradável.
> 
> não, você não entendeu. vym - View Your Mind é o nome de um programa de mapa
> mental , que está no repositório. ;-)
> 
> $ apt show vym
> Package: vym

e `apt search mind map` traz pelo menos outros 2, `treesheets` e
`freeplane`.

Package: treesheets
Description-en: Data organizer that covers spreadsheets, mind mappers, and 
small databases
 Suitable for any kind of data organization, such as Todo lists, calendars,
 project management, brainstorming, organizing ideas, planning, requirements
 gathering, presentation of information, etc.
 .
 It shares many characteristics with more familiar tools, and augments their
 abilities - like a spreadsheet, but supporting hierarchical data; like a mind
 mapper, but more organized and compact; like an outliner, but in more than one
 dimension; and like a text editor, but with structure.

Package: freeplane
Description-en: Java program for working with Mind Maps
 Freeplane is a free and open source software application that supports
 thinking, sharing information and getting things done at work, in school
 and at home. The core of the software is tools for mind mapping (also
 known as concept mapping or information mapping) and using mapped
 information.
 .
 Occupying the middle ground between an editor and a diagramming tool,
 Freeplane allows the user to add content as quickly and naturally as they
 would in a text editor, yet producing structured content that can be
 manipulated as easily as a diagram.
 .
 Features include ordering ideas in nodes and freely positionable
 nodes, connecting nodes, automatic/conditional styles, scripting,
 add-ons, LaTeX, search/filtering, different export features, printing,
 password protection of nodes/maps and more.
 .
 See http://freeplane.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page for a full
 list of applications and features.



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Re: Mapa Mental

[Gabriel Lima]

Desculpem a minha ignorância mas o que é mapa mental?

Att;
Gabriel Lima

> Em 23 de jun de 2016, às 12:00, Leonardo Rocha  
> escreveu:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
>>> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
>>> 
>>> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
>>> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
>>> Debian Testing.
>>> 
>>> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
>>> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
>> 
>> yvm - View Your Mind
>> 
>> está no repositório
> A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
> como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
> essa dependência atendida.
> 
> De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
> Interface muito agradável.
> 
> Obrigado.
> -- 
> Leonardo Rocha
> 4096R/7E7D1FE2
> about.me/leonardo.rocha
> 

Re: Mapa Mental

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:00:55PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
> 
> 
> On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
> >> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
> >>
> >> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
> >> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
> >> Debian Testing.
> >>
> >> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
> >>
> >>
> >> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
> >> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
> > 
> > yvm - View Your Mind
> > 
> > está no repositório
> > 
> A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
> como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
> essa dependência atendida.
> 
> De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
> Interface muito agradável.

não, você não entendeu. vym - View Your Mind é o nome de um programa de mapa
mental , que está no repositório. ;-)

$ apt show vym
Package: vym
Version: 2.5.0-2
Priority: optional
Section: kde
Maintainer: Pierre Chifflier 
Installed-Size: 7.502 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, 
libqt5core5a (>= 5.5.0), libqt5dbus5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.2.0), 
libqt5network5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5printsupport5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5svg5 (>= 
5.0.2), libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.2.0), libqt5xml5 (>= 5.1.0), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2), 
zip, unzip, xsltproc
Suggests: ruby | ruby-interpreter
Homepage: http://www.insilmaril.de/vym/
Tag: implemented-in::c++, interface::graphical, interface::x11,
 role::program, scope::utility, uitoolkit::qt, use::editing,
 use::learning, use::organizing, use::viewing, works-with-format::xml,
 works-with::image, works-with::text, x11::application
Download-Size: 2.723 kB
APT-Sources: http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
Description: mindmapping tool
 Vym is a mind mapping program. It is useful to organize thoughts and
 do structure work. In addition to that it has a lot of helpful
 shortcuts.
 .
 A mindmap is a multicolored and image centered radial diagram that
 represents semantic or other connections between portions of learned
 material.  For example, it can graphically illustrate the structure
 of a thesis outline, a project plan, or the government institutions
 in a state.  Mindmaps have many applications in personal, family,
 educational, and business situations.  Possibilities include
 note-taking, brainstorming, summarizing, revising and general
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Re: Repositorio offline

[Fred Maranhão]

2016-06-23 10:21 GMT-03:00 Manoel Araujo :
> Sim as imagens estão montadas. Eu consigo instalar os pacotes a partir dos
> DVDs. O problema são as mensagens de erros que surge depois que rodo o apt
> get update.
>
> Em quinta-feira, 23 de junho de 2016, Fred Maranhão
>  escreveu:
>>
>> as imagens de dvd estao montadas? diga aí o retorno do comando mount

diga aí o retorno do comando mount

Re: flashplayer et Linux

[Eric Degenetais]

J'ai l'impression qu'il s'agit juste d'affichage, le wrapper affiche
pepper en tant que "Shockwave Flash". Peut-être qu'il affiche le Flash
d'origine comme Shockwave Flash également...
__
Éric Dégenètais
Henix

http://www.henix.com
http://www.squashtest.org



Le 23 juin 2016 à 15:13,   a écrit :
> On Thursday 23 June 2016 14:23:46 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
>> Mais il n'y a jamais de pepperflashplugin dans Firefox.
>> Il y a juste Shockwave Flash ...
>
> Oui mais pourquoi ?
>
> Tous les deux sont des plugins et pourquoi l'un a le privilège
> de figurer dans les plugins de Firefox et pas l'autre ?
>
> André
>

Re: Mapa Mental

[Leonardo Rocha]

On 23-06-2016 08:42, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
>> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
>>
>> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
>> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
>> Debian Testing.
>>
>> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
>>
>>
>> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
>> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
> 
> yvm - View Your Mind
> 
> está no repositório
> 
A questão realmente é o pacote de dependência Teceiro. Consta a remoção
como mostrado no link acima. Eu tentei instalar mas não funciona sem
essa dependência atendida.

De todo modo, instalei o xmind e está funcionando perfeitamente.
Interface muito agradável.

Obrigado.
-- 
Leonardo Rocha
4096R/7E7D1FE2
about.me/leonardo.rocha



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Re: Aprender o Debian.

[Leonardo Rocha]

On 23-06-2016 08:19, Rodolfo wrote:
> Amigo, aconselho muito esse aqui:
> 
> http://www.guiafoca.org/
> 
> Em 23 de junho de 2016 00:21, Luiz Carlos  > escreveu:
> 
> Eu queria aprender mais a fundo o debian, uso ele desde de 2009, mas
> só instalo o sistema e uso ele como usuário final, o que me recomendam?
> 
> 
Na minha opinião, sobre Debian, não há melhor material que este:

https://debian-handbook.info/browse/pt-BR/stable/

Abraço.

-- 
Leonardo Rocha
4096R/7E7D1FE2
about.me/leonardo.rocha

Re: off topic: chromebook

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

On 2016년 6월 23일 오후 11시 36분 36초 GMT+09:00, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
>On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:17:33PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:
>> On 2016년 6월 23일 오후 9시 19분 10초 GMT+09:00, Patrick Wiseman
> wrote:
>> >A Google search ...
>> 
>> Patrick, thanks for comments.
>> 
>> Good to know about NaCl. 
>> 
>> However, possibly i like to install Emacs on Debian Linux or *BSD. 
>> That is my worry with chromebook.
>
>Poossibly I don't understand. Do you want to install Debian on the
>Chromebook?
>
>That will depend on the hardware. But once you get running Debian on
>it, Emacs won't be a big problem.
>
>Not a complete list, but perhaps this is worthwile:
>
>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/
>
>Two randomly chosen Chromebooks there:
>
>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Acer/C710-2615-Chromebook
>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/ARMChromebook
>
>Typically you'll get problems with some hardware support (suspend,
>bluetooth, video...) but those are not crucial for Emacs to work
>properly.
>
>But perhaps I didn't understand you properly.
>
>Regards
>- -- tomás

Yes, tomas, welcome to comments!

As you said, i have to prepare proper chromebook to run Debian Linux (Stretch 
or Jessie) or *BSD by 100-150$. Because android smart phone's display (4.8") is 
too small to edit wml files for translation, plus i need real keyboard.

I'll read the links from you tomas and buy chromebook. After install all, then 
i do edit wml files with Emacs day by day~

Thanks tomas again! You are good friend!

Sincerely,

-- 
^고맙습니다 감사합니다_^))//

Re: off topic: chromebook

[tomas]

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On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:17:33PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:
> On 2016년 6월 23일 오후 9시 19분 10초 GMT+09:00, Patrick Wiseman  
> wrote:
> >A Google search ...
> 
> Patrick, thanks for comments.
> 
> Good to know about NaCl. 
> 
> However, possibly i like to install Emacs on Debian Linux or *BSD. 
> That is my worry with chromebook.

Poossibly I don't understand. Do you want to install Debian on the
Chromebook?

That will depend on the hardware. But once you get running Debian on
it, Emacs won't be a big problem.

Not a complete list, but perhaps this is worthwile:

  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/

Two randomly chosen Chromebooks there:

  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Acer/C710-2615-Chromebook
  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/ARMChromebook

Typically you'll get problems with some hardware support (suspend,
bluetooth, video...) but those are not crucial for Emacs to work
properly.

But perhaps I didn't understand you properly.

Regards
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Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Brian]

On Thu 23 Jun 2016 at 11:57:41 +, Dan Purgert wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> >
> > "Filter failed" is pretty clear.
> 
> Yes, but not having any context of 'what' filter(s) are being used, the
> statement "filter failed" is vague.

It's a step up on "An error has occured." :) "Filter hpcups has stopped."
is perhaps more of a precise message but it still leaves the user having
to look at an error_log and play detective.

Anyway, an enhancement request is on the table:

  https://github.com/apple/cups/issues/4823

Re: roxterm

[gerard ROBIN]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 05:10:32PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:10:32 +0200
> From: Sven Arvidsson 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: roxterm
 
> On Wed, 2016-06-22 at 16:34 +0200, gerard ROBIN wrote:
> > Hello,
> > xterm disappeared of "stretch". Is this final?
> 
> roxterm has been removed, see 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827768
> 
> xterm is still available.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Sven Arvidsson
> http://www.whiz.se

Thanks fort the link. 
I made a mistake , I meant roxterm not xterm, xterm works perfectly
under stretch.

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Re: Encontro Comunitário - FISL17

[Marcos Egito - Gmail]

Obrigado Giovana!
Eu estarei por la, vou ver a possibilidade de participar, aproveito a
oportunidade, queria ver a possibilidade da comunidade fazer algo junto com
o GT-Educação e o GT-Robótica, se não possível este ano mais irmos pensando
para os próximos!

Abraços!

Em 22 de junho de 2016 23:12, Giovani Ferreira 
escreveu:

> Olá a todos,
>
> Realizaremos um encontro da comunidade Debian durante o FISL17, será dia
> 16/07 às 11:00 na sala 41E.
>
> Para a organização dos temas que serão tratados durante o encontro, está
> disponível um pad para que todos possam colocar ideias para serem
> debatidas. O documento está disponível em:
> https://pad.riseup.net/p/encontro-debian-fisl17
>
> Esta atividade terá transmissão ao vivo, portanto será possível
> participar através do IRC, canal #debian-br em irc.oftc.net.
>
> Contamos com a participação de todos!
>
> []'s
>
> --
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> http://softwarelivre.org/jova2
> 0x78494EF72375A66C
>
>


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Re: [ot] Empresa especializada en recuperar discos duros

[Rafael Cantos Villanueva]

A eso me refería cuando te preguntaba si valía la pena la inversión.  
Por acá el costo de ese tipo de trabajos supera, generalmente, los 
1000 euros, pero como tu mencionaste alrededor de 200, pensé que esos 
eran los costos allá.


Generalmente las empresas que realizan ese trabajo "en serio", cuentan 
con equipos y condiciones ambientales especiales y por eso los 
costos.  Casi todas son empresas prestigiosas pero no está de mas 
seguir los consejos que te da camaleón referente a investigar a fondo 
antes de decidir;  lo que si te diría es que descartaras las que 
cobran barato ya que esos ambientes y equipos especiales se mantienen 
al día con dinero y los servicios que estas dan, rara vez son 
solicitados por particulares, sino por otras empresas que son las que 
pueden pagar esos costos.


Bueno, por si a alguien le sirve, aunque espero que no.
Me decidí por OnRetrieval, y me ha ido muy bien. Trato correcto en todo 
momento e instantáneo en el chat (dentro del horario) y casi instantáneo 
cuando me llamaron ellos por teléfono.
Me han recuperado toda la información (no he podido revisarlo del todo, 
pero el listado era completo). Según el diagnóstico, tuvieron que 
reiniciar smart y posiblemente cambiar o reajustar las cabezas. El coste 
total ascendió a 616 euros, y la información me la devolvieron en un 
disco externo de igual capacidad de la marca Verbatim.
Lo único que veo así es que me parece caro el disco duro (de 1tb, 79€ 
más IVA), especialmente teniendo en cuenta que es una unidad 3.5 
alimentada por corriente externa, y que te cobren sí o sí 10€ más IVA 
por un seguro.
Se me olvidaba reseñar que hasta que no aceptabas el listado de archivos 
recuperables, no te cobraban. En caso de rechazar presupuesto, sé que 
tenías que pagar simplemente los gastos del servicio de paquetería, el 
cuál te recoge y lleva el disco duro a tu casa o empresa, pero no sé qué 
pasaba exactamente en caso de no aceptar el listado de archivos 
recuperables.
Quiero dar las gracias a todos los que habéis aportado vuestros 
conocimientos e indicaciones, que me han sido de muchísima utilidad.


Saludos

Rafa

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Re: flashplayer et Linux

[andre_debian]

On Thursday 23 June 2016 14:23:46 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
> Mais il n'y a jamais de pepperflashplugin dans Firefox. 
> Il y a juste Shockwave Flash ... 

Oui mais pourquoi ?

Tous les deux sont des plugins et pourquoi l'un a le privilège
de figurer dans les plugins de Firefox et pas l'autre ?

André

Re: flashplayer et Linux

[Christophe De Natale]

Le 23/06/2016 à 14:23, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
Mais il n'y a jamais de pepperflashplugin dans Firefox. Il y a juste 
Shockwave Flash ...


Gaëtan

Le 23 juin 2016 12:51:28 GMT+02:00, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

Le 23/06/2016 à 12:02, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

pepperflashplugin-nonfree : 


Ce paquet est bien installé mais pepperflashplugin n'est
toujours pas affiché dans les plugins de Firefox. 



On Thursday 23 June 2016 12:23:26 Christophe De Natale wrote:

Si ça peut aider, j'ai ceci sur ma machine (Jessie 8.5) : Dans
les plug-in firefox j'ai : Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.216
 ; fichier = libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so
 Bonne journée, Christophe 



Donc, comme moi, tu n'as pas "pepperflashplugin" d'indiqué
dans les plugins de Firefox, alors qu'il devrait y être...

André


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Si on suit le chemin donné par Daniel, on comprend comment il est utilisé

Re: flashplayer et Linux

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Mais il n'y a jamais de pepperflashplugin dans Firefox. Il y a juste Shockwave 
Flash ...

Gaëtan 

Le 23 juin 2016 12:51:28 GMT+02:00, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
>> Le 23/06/2016 à 12:02, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
>> >> pepperflashplugin-nonfree :
>> > Ce paquet est bien installé mais pepperflashplugin n'est toujours
>> > pas affiché dans les plugins de Firefox.
>
>On Thursday 23 June 2016 12:23:26 Christophe De Natale wrote:
>> Si ça peut aider, j'ai ceci sur ma machine (Jessie 8.5) :
>> Dans les plug-in firefox j'ai :
>> Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.216 ; fichier = libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so
>> Bonne journée,  Christophe
>
>Donc, comme moi, tu n'as pas "pepperflashplugin" d'indiqué
>dans les plugins de Firefox, alors qu'il devrait y être...
>
>André

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Re: off topic: chromebook

[Patrick Wiseman]

A Google search for 'emacs on chromebook' (which you surely could have
conducted yourself?) yields, as its top result:

http://endlessparentheses.com/emacs-is-available-on-chromebook-and-chrome.html

Patrick

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) 
wrote:

> Is there chromebook to run Emacs?
>
> I need only Emacs! Performance is enough if it runs Emacs.
>
> My wife will give me about 100$(USD) for laptop buying.
> For now i do not have any computers.
> Only Galaxy S III is all what i have.
>
> My head is now swimming on chrome world.
>
> Acer C720,
> Asus C201,
> Poin2 chromebook 11,
> Etc.~
>
> Any comments welcome!!!
>
> Sincerely,
> --
> ^고맙습니다 감사합니다_^))//
>
>

Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Dan Purgert]

Brian wrote:
> On Wed 22 Jun 2016 at 15:21:45 +, Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>> Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> > printer laser now printing laser-528.  enabled since Wed 22 Jun 2016
>> > 16:42:55 CEST
>> >Filter failed
>> >
>> 
>> Seems the input (or output) filter failed.  You'll likely need to check
>> if it's trying to call any 32-bit libraries (my brother does this), and
>> add the relevant i386 support for them.
>
> I think this happens because the Brother debs are not real debs but RPM
> packages converted with alien.

They're not even debs -- they're build-from-source archives.  But they
work great when I remember to set up multiarch.

>
>> Although, the error is vague, and there's not much context -- another
>> fix could simply be getting the latest hplip (if you don't already have
>> it).
>
> "Filter failed" is pretty clear.

Yes, but not having any context of 'what' filter(s) are being used, the
statement "filter failed" is vague.

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Re: Aprender o Debian.

[Rafael Bedendo]

Eu sempre recomendo a amigos o Livro Descobrindo o Linux  do Eriberto, 
que usa o Debian em todos os exemplos.


http://novatec.com.br/livros/linux3/

Abraço

Rafael Bedendo

Em 23/06/2016 01:21, Luiz Carlos escreveu:
Eu queria aprender mais a fundo o debian, uso ele desde de 2009, mas 
só instalo o sistema e uso ele como usuário final, o que me recomendam?

Re: flashplayer et Linux

[Daniel Huhardeaux]

Le 23/06/2016 12:51, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

Le 23/06/2016 à 12:02, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

pepperflashplugin-nonfree :

Ce paquet est bien installé mais pepperflashplugin n'est toujours
pas affiché dans les plugins de Firefox.

On Thursday 23 June 2016 12:23:26 Christophe De Natale wrote:

Si ça peut aider, j'ai ceci sur ma machine (Jessie 8.5) :
Dans les plug-in firefox j'ai :
Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.216 ; fichier = libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so
Bonne journée,  Christophe

Donc, comme moi, tu n'as pas "pepperflashplugin" d'indiqué
dans les plugins de Firefox, alors qu'il devrait y être...


Pourquoi veux tu absolument voir "pepperflashplugin"? Libfreshwrapper 
est bien pepper, regarde le chemin!


   Fichier : libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so
   Chemin :
   
/usr/lib/browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash/libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so

Bien sur il doit être activé ...

--
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Re: Mapa Mental

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 09:56:38PM -0300, Leonardo Rocha wrote:
> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
> 
> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
> Debian Testing.
> 
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
> 
> 
> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?

yvm - View Your Mind

está no repositório


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Re: Aprender o Debian.

[Rodolfo]

Amigo, aconselho muito esse aqui:

http://www.guiafoca.org/

Em 23 de junho de 2016 00:21, Luiz Carlos  escreveu:

> Eu queria aprender mais a fundo o debian, uso ele desde de 2009, mas só
> instalo o sistema e uso ele como usuário final, o que me recomendam?
>

Re: (deb-cat) live-build

[Lluís Gras]

Més o menys seria el següent:

1. Descarreguem la imatge que ens interessi.
serni@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~$ wget -c
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso

2. Descomprimim la ISO.
serni@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~$ 7z
x debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso

3. Ens fem root i definim el dispositiu de loop associat al fitxer
 filesystem.squashfs
serni@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~$ su -
Contrasenya:
root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# losetup /dev/loop0
/home/serni/Escriptori/TMP/ISO/live/filesystem.squashfs

4. Muntem el contingut de filesystem.squashfs  a /mnt
root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# mount -t squashfs /dev/loop0 /mnt

5. Creem un directori on transferirem el contingut de /mnt (ro) per
poder-lo modificar.
root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# mkdir /root/FS

6. Copiem les dades amb rsync -av
root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# rsync -av /mnt/ /root/FS/

7. Jo en aquest punt em faria un petit script per treballar/chrootar dins
de /root/FS o d'on sigui. les comandes que executo són:

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# mount -t proc none /root/FS/proc

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# mount -t sysfs none /root/FS/sys

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# mount -o bind /run /root/FS/run

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# mount -o bind /dev /root/FS/dev

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# mount -o bind /dev/pts /root/FS/dev/pts

i finalment fem el chroot.

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# chroot /root/FS

Ja a dins del chroot.

8. Afegim un nameserver a  /etc/resolv.conf
root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:/# echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolv.conf

I ara ja hauries de poder actualitzar el sistema amb apt-get, aptitude, etc
...

9. Un cop minimitzat el teu sistema, hauries de desfer els passos,
eliminant l'entrada de /etc/resolv.conf, el dispositiu de loop, sortint del
chroot i recuperant l'entorn.

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:/# exit

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# umount -l /root/FS/proc

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# umount /root/FS/sys

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# umount /root/FS/dev/pts

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# umount -l /root/FS/dev

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# umount -l /root/FS/run

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# losetup -D

10. A continuació generem el nou fitxer filesystem.squashfs
root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# mksquashfs /root/FS /root/filesystem.squashfs

11. I l'emprem per substituir l'original de la ISO descomprimida.
root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# cp -a
/root/filesystem.squashfs /home/serni/Escriptori/TMP/ISO/live/

12. Regenerem la ISO amb alguna cosa com:
root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# genisoimage -o
debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-lxde-desktop_remake.iso -R -b isolinux.bin -c
boot.cat -A "mkisofs" -V "Debian LXDE amd64" -allow-limited-size
-allow-limited-size -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
 /home/serni/Escriptori/TMP/ISO

O potser isomaster faria el fet.

13. Comprovar que els darrers 12 punts han funcionat ;-)

El dia 23 de juny de 2016, 9:00, Narcis Garcia  ha
escrit:

> Coneixeu alguna guia per aquest procediment?
> De tota manera vull assegurar-me que la manera d'eliminar coses
> mantingui la coherència funcional, és a dir, no vull eliminar fitxers «a
> cegues» que poden formar part d'un paquet, sinó millor eliminar paquets.
>
> La fórmula del UCK seria ideal
> uck.sf.net
>
>
> El 23/06/16 a les 08:54, Lluís Gras ha escrit:
> > llavors suposo que la cosa consistiria en extraure la imatge squashfs de
> > dins de la ISO, muntar-la en algun lloc fer un chroot al directori
> > muntat i eliminar els paquets "innecessaris", refer la imatge squashfs i
> > generar una nova ISO al el fitxer actualitzat.
> >
> > El dia 23 de juny de 2016, 8:49, Narcis Garcia  > > ha escrit:
> >
> > No m'interessa crear la meva metadistribució ni res semblant.
> > Vull refer el mateix Live-CD de Debian eliminant paquets i conservant
> > absolutament tota la resta (arrencada, configuracions, etc.)
> >
> >
> > El 23/06/16 a les 08:14, Lluís Gras ha escrit:
> > >
> > > Hola Narcís,
> > >
> > > Per si t'interessa, jo tinc preparat un deb i en pots disposar que
> > > utilitzo per generar una Debian Live en base al contingut d'una
> partició
> > > on hi ha la instal·lació de Debian que volem portar a la butxaca.
> > > Utilitza overlayfs amb lo que com a mínim necessites nuclis 4.X.
> > > (Stretch o Jessie amb backports)
> > > També incorpora un mecanisme de persistència reparticionant el USB
> en
> > > dos particions i et permet tenir vàries configuracions diferents
> que
> > > s'incorporen de forma dinàmica al menú del syslinux/extlinux.
> > >
> > > S'utilitza com a root amb quelcom semblant a:
> > >
> > > root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# makeliveusbcd
> > >
> > > Ús. debianbox:~# makeliveusbcd PuntdeMuntatgeParticio NomDistro
> > > NomUsuari DirectoriHome NucliExistentEnParticio(Opcional si
> existeix més

Re: Mapa Mental

[Leonardo S. S. da Rocha]

Obrigado Greyson. O jeito vai ser testar esse ai.

Valeu.


Enviado com MailTrack


2016-06-22 22:57 GMT-03:00 Emerson Sobreiro :

> Não acredito que não irão dar suporte ao Freemind no próximo Debian,
> acredito que seja um período de transição. Utilizo o Debian estável e o
> Freemind funciona perfeitamente.
>
> Abraço,
>
> Emerson M. Sobreiro
>
> Em 22 de junho de 2016 22:29, Greyson Farias 
> escreveu:
>
>> Colega,
>>
>> Eu conheço e uso o xMind
>> http://www.xmind.net/download/linux/
>>
>>
>> *Greyson Farias da Silva*
>> Técnico em Operação de redes - CREA/AC 9329TD
>> Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODF
>> .
>> http://about.me/greysonfarias
>>
>>
>> Em 22 de junho de 2016 19:56, Leonardo Rocha 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Senhores, senhoras, boa noite!
>>>
>>> estava pesquisando agora e encontrei a documentação que mostra a remoção
>>> de pacotes (libjibx1.1-java) de dependência do FreeMind (mapa Mental) do
>>> Debian Testing.
>>>
>>> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libjibx1.1-java
>>>
>>>
>>> Estou tentando instalá-lo mas sem sucesso. Gostaria de saber se tem
>>> algum outro mapa mental que possam segurir para uso?
>>>
>>> Agradeço e aguardo.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Leonardo Rocha
>>> 4096R/7E7D1FE2
>>> about.me/leonardo.rocha
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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> ==
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> (0XX11) 98387-1876
> emo...@gmail.com
> ==
>



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Re: flashplayer et Linux

[andre_debian]

> Le 23/06/2016 à 12:02, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> >> pepperflashplugin-nonfree :
> > Ce paquet est bien installé mais pepperflashplugin n'est toujours
> > pas affiché dans les plugins de Firefox.

On Thursday 23 June 2016 12:23:26 Christophe De Natale wrote:
> Si ça peut aider, j'ai ceci sur ma machine (Jessie 8.5) :
> Dans les plug-in firefox j'ai :
> Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.216 ; fichier = libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so
> Bonne journée,  Christophe

Donc, comme moi, tu n'as pas "pepperflashplugin" d'indiqué
dans les plugins de Firefox, alors qu'il devrait y être...

André

Re: flashplayer et Linux

[Christophe De Natale]

Le 23/06/2016 à 12:02, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

On Wednesday 22 June 2016 23:52:18 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

Le Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:23:28 +0200
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit:

Mais, le plugin "browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash",
brille toujours par son absence dans Firefox ! :
  

Il te faut aussi nonfree et installer le paquet pepperflashplugin-nonfree
Gaëtan
pepperflashplugin-nonfree :

Ce paquet est bien installé mais pepperflashplugin n'est toujours
pas affiché dans les plugins de Firefox.

André


Bonjour,

Si ça peut aider, j'ai ceci sur ma machine (Jessie 8.5) :

apt-cache policy firefox-esr
firefox-esr:
  Installé : 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1
  Candidat : 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1
 Table de version :
 *** 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1 0
500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

apt-cache policy pepperflashplugin-nonfree
pepperflashplugin-nonfree:
  Installé : 1.8.1+deb8u1
  Candidat : 1.8.1+deb8u1
 Table de version :
 *** 1.8.1+deb8u1 0
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/contrib amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Dans les plug-in firefox j'ai :

Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.216 ; fichier = libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so

Bonne journée,

Christophe

Re: flashplayer et Linux

[andre_debian]

On Wednesday 22 June 2016 23:52:18 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:
> Le Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:23:28 +0200
> andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit:
> > Mais, le plugin "browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash",
> > brille toujours par son absence dans Firefox ! :
 
> Il te faut aussi nonfree et installer le paquet pepperflashplugin-nonfree
> Gaëtan

> pepperflashplugin-nonfree :

Ce paquet est bien installé mais pepperflashplugin n'est toujours
pas affiché dans les plugins de Firefox.

André

Re: Lecture vidéo flux saccadée

[Grégory Reinbold]

Bonjour,

Je reviens sur le sujet après tout ce temps passé.

J'ai installé les drivers propriétaires et je constate une nette 
amélioration des performances avec VLC et SMPlayer. Cependant j'ai 
toujours des cas de vidéo avec lesquels l'image est saccadée par moment. 
Je pense que cela est potentiellement dû à l'encodage de la vidéo.


Merci pour vos bons conseils ! :)

Si quelqu'un a encore une autre idée ? Je suis preneur

Le 18/05/2016 10:03, didier gaumet a écrit :

Le 17/05/2016 11:59, Grégory Reinbold a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je rencontre un problème depuis plusieurs années que je ne sais
expliquer : le flux d'une vidéo quelconque lue avec VLC ou Parole ou
SMPlayer est saccadée (pas fluide).

[...]

Je ne sais pas pour Parole ou Smplayer, mais tu peux lancer vlc en ligne
de commande et cela te permet d'avoir de l'information dans le terminal
pendant la lecture vidéo, à fortiori avec l'option -v positionnée à 0,1
ou 2 (du moins au plus bavard).




--
Grégory Reinbold

Re: Re: Problem with udev and mount

[Szilard Andai]

Thanks Michael, I see the changed functionality and solved the automount
with udisks2.

regards,
Szilárd

Re: SOLVED Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Brian]

On Thu 23 Jun 2016 at 05:23:15 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > Similarily glad but recording for the
> > archives that foomatic-db-compressed-ppds is
> > not required to set up and use a print queue
> > with printer-driver-foo2zjs.
> 
> Right, the turn of events was this line
> 
> foo2zjs:0/ppd/foo2zjs/HP-LaserJet_Pro_P1102w.ppd
> 
> which I found with
> 
> $ lpinfo -m | grep 1102w

It would also have found hpcups and hpijs PPDs, unless the packages
had been removed. Given the extra step of having to install a non-free
plugin and seeing foo2zjs is recommended would be a good enough reason
for choosing foo2zjs:

 lpadmin -p  -v  -E -m 

A 10 second job after the preparatory work is done. :)

> But I can't find it on the disk and my
> functions to track it can't find it either!
> Perhaps not a real file but some abstraction
> foo2zjs uses...

The file is in the driver file foo2zjs in /usr/lib/cups/driver. lpinfo
consults the driver file.

> file-to-pack () {
> apt-file update > /dev/null
> apt-file search $@
> }
> 
> pack-to-file () {
> local pack=$1
> local -a files
> files=("${(@f)$(dpkg --listfiles $pack)}")
> for f in $files; do
> if [[ -f $f ]]; then echo $f; fi
> done
> }

All that these functions seem to have done is turn a gentle five minute
stroll into a day long Himalayan expedition.

Re: (deb-cat) live-build

[Narcis Garcia]

Coneixeu alguna guia per aquest procediment?
De tota manera vull assegurar-me que la manera d'eliminar coses
mantingui la coherència funcional, és a dir, no vull eliminar fitxers «a
cegues» que poden formar part d'un paquet, sinó millor eliminar paquets.

La fórmula del UCK seria ideal
uck.sf.net


El 23/06/16 a les 08:54, Lluís Gras ha escrit:
> llavors suposo que la cosa consistiria en extraure la imatge squashfs de
> dins de la ISO, muntar-la en algun lloc fer un chroot al directori
> muntat i eliminar els paquets "innecessaris", refer la imatge squashfs i
> generar una nova ISO al el fitxer actualitzat.
> 
> El dia 23 de juny de 2016, 8:49, Narcis Garcia  > ha escrit:
> 
> No m'interessa crear la meva metadistribució ni res semblant.
> Vull refer el mateix Live-CD de Debian eliminant paquets i conservant
> absolutament tota la resta (arrencada, configuracions, etc.)
> 
> 
> El 23/06/16 a les 08:14, Lluís Gras ha escrit:
> >
> > Hola Narcís,
> >
> > Per si t'interessa, jo tinc preparat un deb i en pots disposar que
> > utilitzo per generar una Debian Live en base al contingut d'una partició
> > on hi ha la instal·lació de Debian que volem portar a la butxaca.
> > Utilitza overlayfs amb lo que com a mínim necessites nuclis 4.X.
> > (Stretch o Jessie amb backports)
> > També incorpora un mecanisme de persistència reparticionant el USB en
> > dos particions i et permet tenir vàries configuracions diferents que
> > s'incorporen de forma dinàmica al menú del syslinux/extlinux.
> >
> > S'utilitza com a root amb quelcom semblant a:
> >
> > root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# makeliveusbcd
> >
> > Ús. debianbox:~# makeliveusbcd PuntdeMuntatgeParticio NomDistro
> > NomUsuari DirectoriHome NucliExistentEnParticio(Opcional si existeix més
> > d'un nucli)
> > Per exemple:
> > makeliveusbcd /media/sda7 BoxLinux usuari homelocal
> >
> > Si interessa ja diràs ...
> >
> > El dia 22 de juny de 2016, 19:41, Narcis Garcia  
> > >> ha
> escrit:
> >
> > Hola, necessito tenir un Live-CD actualitzat amb LXDE, tal com els 
> que
> > es publiquen a debian.org 
>  però que hi càpiga en
> > un CD-ROM.
> > He llegit que l'enorme mida dels Live-CD es deu a què inclouen molts
> > paquets d'idioma (que curiosament quasi no es poden fer servir), 
> així
> > que vull refer la ISO publicada descartant coses que a mi em 
> sobrarien.
> >
> > He trobat aquesta guia:
> > http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9=185
> > però no em queda clar:
> > 1. Es pot generar una imatge .iso IGUAL que la que publiquen?
> > 2. Es pot aprofitar la imatge .iso que ja es disposa per només 
> fer-ne un
> > derivat?
> >
> > Gràcies.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > __
> > I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses 
> aren't
> > masked enough at lists.debian.org 
>  archives.
> >
> >
> 
> 

boot failure only on first try when starting computer

[Peter Baranyi]

hi,

when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,
on the first try it always freezes right after the grub menu. Then
when I press reset, it always boots correctly. I have one SATA SSD (/,
/home), one SATA HDD (only storage) and one M2 NVME SSD (not even
mounted, has Windows).

How do I fix this? Thanks!
Peter

Re: (deb-cat) live-build

[Lluís Gras]

llavors suposo que la cosa consistiria en extraure la imatge squashfs de
dins de la ISO, muntar-la en algun lloc fer un chroot al directori muntat i
eliminar els paquets "innecessaris", refer la imatge squashfs i generar una
nova ISO al el fitxer actualitzat.

El dia 23 de juny de 2016, 8:49, Narcis Garcia  ha
escrit:

> No m'interessa crear la meva metadistribució ni res semblant.
> Vull refer el mateix Live-CD de Debian eliminant paquets i conservant
> absolutament tota la resta (arrencada, configuracions, etc.)
>
>
> El 23/06/16 a les 08:14, Lluís Gras ha escrit:
> >
> > Hola Narcís,
> >
> > Per si t'interessa, jo tinc preparat un deb i en pots disposar que
> > utilitzo per generar una Debian Live en base al contingut d'una partició
> > on hi ha la instal·lació de Debian que volem portar a la butxaca.
> > Utilitza overlayfs amb lo que com a mínim necessites nuclis 4.X.
> > (Stretch o Jessie amb backports)
> > També incorpora un mecanisme de persistència reparticionant el USB en
> > dos particions i et permet tenir vàries configuracions diferents que
> > s'incorporen de forma dinàmica al menú del syslinux/extlinux.
> >
> > S'utilitza com a root amb quelcom semblant a:
> >
> > root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# makeliveusbcd
> >
> > Ús. debianbox:~# makeliveusbcd PuntdeMuntatgeParticio NomDistro
> > NomUsuari DirectoriHome NucliExistentEnParticio(Opcional si existeix més
> > d'un nucli)
> > Per exemple:
> > makeliveusbcd /media/sda7 BoxLinux usuari homelocal
> >
> > Si interessa ja diràs ...
> >
> > El dia 22 de juny de 2016, 19:41, Narcis Garcia  > > ha escrit:
> >
> > Hola, necessito tenir un Live-CD actualitzat amb LXDE, tal com els
> que
> > es publiquen a debian.org  però que hi càpiga en
> > un CD-ROM.
> > He llegit que l'enorme mida dels Live-CD es deu a què inclouen molts
> > paquets d'idioma (que curiosament quasi no es poden fer servir), així
> > que vull refer la ISO publicada descartant coses que a mi em
> sobrarien.
> >
> > He trobat aquesta guia:
> > http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9=185
> > però no em queda clar:
> > 1. Es pot generar una imatge .iso IGUAL que la que publiquen?
> > 2. Es pot aprofitar la imatge .iso que ja es disposa per només
> fer-ne un
> > derivat?
> >
> > Gràcies.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > __
> > I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
> > masked enough at lists.debian.org 
> archives.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: (deb-cat) live-build

[Narcis Garcia]

No m'interessa crear la meva metadistribució ni res semblant.
Vull refer el mateix Live-CD de Debian eliminant paquets i conservant
absolutament tota la resta (arrencada, configuracions, etc.)


El 23/06/16 a les 08:14, Lluís Gras ha escrit:
> 
> Hola Narcís,
> 
> Per si t'interessa, jo tinc preparat un deb i en pots disposar que
> utilitzo per generar una Debian Live en base al contingut d'una partició
> on hi ha la instal·lació de Debian que volem portar a la butxaca.
> Utilitza overlayfs amb lo que com a mínim necessites nuclis 4.X.
> (Stretch o Jessie amb backports)
> També incorpora un mecanisme de persistència reparticionant el USB en
> dos particions i et permet tenir vàries configuracions diferents que
> s'incorporen de forma dinàmica al menú del syslinux/extlinux.
> 
> S'utilitza com a root amb quelcom semblant a:
> 
> root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# makeliveusbcd
> 
> Ús. debianbox:~# makeliveusbcd PuntdeMuntatgeParticio NomDistro
> NomUsuari DirectoriHome NucliExistentEnParticio(Opcional si existeix més
> d'un nucli)
> Per exemple:
> makeliveusbcd /media/sda7 BoxLinux usuari homelocal
> 
> Si interessa ja diràs ...
> 
> El dia 22 de juny de 2016, 19:41, Narcis Garcia  > ha escrit:
> 
> Hola, necessito tenir un Live-CD actualitzat amb LXDE, tal com els que
> es publiquen a debian.org  però que hi càpiga en
> un CD-ROM.
> He llegit que l'enorme mida dels Live-CD es deu a què inclouen molts
> paquets d'idioma (que curiosament quasi no es poden fer servir), així
> que vull refer la ISO publicada descartant coses que a mi em sobrarien.
> 
> He trobat aquesta guia:
> http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9=185
> però no em queda clar:
> 1. Es pot generar una imatge .iso IGUAL que la que publiquen?
> 2. Es pot aprofitar la imatge .iso que ja es disposa per només fer-ne un
> derivat?
> 
> Gràcies.
> 
> --
> 
> 
> __
> I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
> masked enough at lists.debian.org  archives.
> 
> 

Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[deloptes]

Lennart Sorensen wrote:

> Unless you are sharing the drive with windows I would highly recommend
> avoiding that, and doing the software raid purely in linux.  It is much
> simpler and much better supported.

Hi,
this is not a critical machine. I let debian configure the raid at
installation time. Usually I do it myself and I use software raid - as you
said it is in many ways better.

What should I do to revive the raid and be able to boot? You said you have
done this.

thanks

Re: Freeradius ne re-démarre pas [RESOLU]

[Olivier]

Le 22 juin 2016 à 16:42, François TOURDE  a
écrit :

> Salut,
>
> Le 16974ième jour après Epoch,
> Olivier écrivait:
>
> > Quand je re-démarre freeradius par "systemctl restart freeradius" ou
> > "systemctl stop freeradius; systemctl start freeradius", j'observe dans
> les
> > logs:
> >
> > juin 22 15:50:39 foobar freeradius[2977]: radiusd:  Opening IP
> > addresses and Ports 
> > juin 22 15:50:39 foobar freeradius[2977]: listen {
> > juin 22 15:50:39 foobar freeradius[2977]: type = "auth"
> > juin 22 15:50:39 foobar freeradius[2977]: ipaddr = *
> > juin 22 15:50:39 foobar freeradius[2977]: port = 0
> > juin 22 15:50:39 foobar freeradius[2977]: Failed binding to
> authentication
> > address * port 1812: Address already in use
> > juin 22 15:50:39 foobar freeradius[2977]:
> > /etc/freeradius/radiusd.conf[273]: Error binding to port for 0.0.0.0 port
> > 1812
> > juin 22 15:50:39 foobar freeradius[2977]: failed
>
> Tu as essayé de faire un stop, d'attendre que éventuellement le
> processus soit bien arrêté, puis de faire un start?
>
> Ça ressemble à un process pas encore fini, ça.
>
> > Pourtant, j'ai:
> > # netstat -a | grep  1812
> > udp0  0 localhost:18120 0.0.0.0:*
> > # netstat -a | grep radius
> > udp0  0 0.0.0.0:radius  0.0.0.0:*
> >
> > udp0  0 0.0.0.0:radius-acct 0.0.0.0:*
> >
> > Dans ce qui précède, j'imagine que radius=1812 et radius-acct=1813.
>
> Oui, tu peux vérifier par la commande:
>
>   grep radius /etc/services
>
>
J'avais laissé la ligne FREERADIUS_OPTIONS="-X" dans mon fichier
/etc/default/freeradius.
En la supprimant, freeradius re-démarre normalement.

Je trouve ce comportement surprenant (pourquoi le mode debug devrait-il
laisser tourner des processus ? faut-il donc rebooter pour arrêter
freeradius en mode debug ?).
La commande "man freeradius" ne mentionne pas cet effet de bord.

Qu'en pensez-vous ?

Slts

Re: (deb-cat) live-build

[Lluís Gras]

Hola Narcís,

Per si t'interessa, jo tinc preparat un deb i en pots disposar que utilitzo
per generar una Debian Live en base al contingut d'una partició on hi ha la
instal·lació de Debian que volem portar a la butxaca. Utilitza overlayfs
amb lo que com a mínim necessites nuclis 4.X. (Stretch o Jessie amb
backports)
També incorpora un mecanisme de persistència reparticionant el USB en dos
particions i et permet tenir vàries configuracions diferents que
s'incorporen de forma dinàmica al menú del syslinux/extlinux.

S'utilitza com a root amb quelcom semblant a:

root@debianbox_192_168_10_2:~# makeliveusbcd

Ús. debianbox:~# makeliveusbcd PuntdeMuntatgeParticio NomDistro NomUsuari
DirectoriHome NucliExistentEnParticio(Opcional si existeix més d'un nucli)
Per exemple:
makeliveusbcd /media/sda7 BoxLinux usuari homelocal

Si interessa ja diràs ...

El dia 22 de juny de 2016, 19:41, Narcis Garcia  ha
escrit:

> Hola, necessito tenir un Live-CD actualitzat amb LXDE, tal com els que
> es publiquen a debian.org però que hi càpiga en un CD-ROM.
> He llegit que l'enorme mida dels Live-CD es deu a què inclouen molts
> paquets d'idioma (que curiosament quasi no es poden fer servir), així
> que vull refer la ISO publicada descartant coses que a mi em sobrarien.
>
> He trobat aquesta guia:
> http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9=185
> però no em queda clar:
> 1. Es pot generar una imatge .iso IGUAL que la que publiquen?
> 2. Es pot aprofitar la imatge .iso que ja es disposa per només fer-ne un
> derivat?
>
> Gràcies.
>
> --
>
>
> __
> I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
> masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.
>
>

Debian Testing Cannot be installed on Hyper-V 2012 R2

[Larry Sevilla]

Package: debian-installer
Version: debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso  dated 2016-06-20 07:33 391Mb

I'm trying to install Debian Testing under Hyper-V Windows Server 2012 R2.

mem: Start-up 1024Mb Dynamic Min 512Mb Max 3584
proc: 2
vhdx: 10Gb

Install it using non-GUI.

Then It freezes during:
   Partitions formatting at 33%
   Creating ext4 file system for / in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda)...

Note: I have installed Debian 7/Wheezy 7.11 and 8/Jessie 8.5 on Hyper-V;
  so far no problem on installation with the two versions...