Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[David Wright]

On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 22:41:57 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 30 June 2016 20:51:37 David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 19:35:44 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Thursday 30 June 2016 19:25:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 30 June 2016 21:12:46 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's
> > > > > > people are denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear,
> > > > > > they couldn't smell coffee with a nose full of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, if either of you two (that suffered the runaway aptitude
> > > > > issue) still have the /etc of the box that caused trouble,
> > > > > kindly do this:
> > > > >
> > > > > grep -r Assume-Yes /etc
> > > > >
> > > > > If it returns any match in the aptitude config files, there you
> > > > > have it.
> > > >
> > > > I have this on my desktop at home:
> > > >
> > > > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# grep -R Assume-Yes /etc
> > > > grep: /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf: No such file or
> > > > directory Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude matches
> > > > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi
> > > >
> > > > It rather looks as though I should be worried?
> > >
> > > No, thats just grep being grep, it says that of ANY binary file it
> > > tries to read as text.  I have spent days pouring over the manpages
> > > for grep, looking for a option to feed it to make grep quit that,
> > > simply because its so verbose that what you are looking for can get
> > > lost in its blathering about that.
> >
> > I have no idea what that's meant to be the explanation for.
> 
> For the fact that it claimed /etc/alternatives/aptitude was a match when 
> Lisi ran the correct grep as quoted in a previous email.

It claimed it matched because it *did* match. grep prints matches;
it's what's on the tin.

There's nothing verbose about it: quite the opposite in fact.
With a text file, it would have printed *all* the matching
lines. Here, in a binary file, any number of matches is confirmed
("claimed" in your parlance) by merely one line.

> > Why does Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude trigger a match?
> 
> Because it is?
> 
> gene@coyote:/opt$ file /etc/alternatives/aptitude
> /etc/alternatives/aptitude: symbolic link to /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
> gene@coyote:/opt$ file /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
> /usr/bin/aptitude-curses: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, 
> version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, 
> for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, 
> BuildID[sha1]=3508f8a2610e542bc916835e4caea373c28eb8f0, stripped

That explains why it says "Binary file", not why it matched.
I explained both why it's a binary and why it matched.

> > What you were running was aptitude, obviously. On my laptop:
> 
> Which "you" are you refering to, because Lisi and I have shared that same 
> leaky boat experience with aptitude.

Both of you, at different times. Why does that matter?

> > $ which aptitude
> > /usr/bin/aptitude
> > $ ls -l /usr/bin/aptitude
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Oct 10  2012 /usr/bin/aptitude ->
> > /etc/alternatives/aptitude $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/aptitude
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Oct 10  2012 /etc/alternatives/aptitude ->
> > /usr/bin/aptitude-curses $ ls -l /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4340528 Nov  8  2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
> >
> > (The last line might be different if you use some version other than
> > curses.)
> >
> > So the question becomes Why does the binary file
> > /usr/bin/aptitude-curses, that you actually run, match?
> 
> Who knows, but grep, for this job, lies like a cheap rug.

No it doesn't. It's a binary. It matches. Both those statements
made by grep are true. Or is your dispute with the fact that
/etc/alternatives/aptitude is in fact a link? So what: we're
dealing with the output of grep -R, and R forces grep to follow
links regardless.

>file will tell 
> you more. And it gives a valid answer that aptitude-curses is in fact a 
> binary file.  And thats what worried Lisi, needlessly.

Why would Lisi worry about a binary file in /etc/alternatives? That's
what it's stuffed full of, if you're following links. 89 ELFs/251 on
my laptop. Only 33/251 are plain text files.

What "grep -R Assume-Yes /etc" was meant to be doing was searching for
some nook or cranny where aptitude was being told to assume "yes" in
answer to questions it might pose. *Any* match *might* lead one to
suppose that the search had been successful, which *would* be worrying.
However, the explanation for the match shows that the search was
not successful: it was just a false alarm caused by... (explanation
follows as it did originally)...

> > Well, in order to decide whether you have typed
> > aptitude --assume-yes
> > aptitude needs to contain the string "assume-yes" against which to
> > check your typing. Ditto Aptitude::CmdLine::Assume-Yes for checking
> > 

Re: aptitude again

[Gener Badenas]

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 12:34 AM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> aptitude upgrade is now removing things.  I ought, of course, to have
> typed safe-upgrade, but I thought only full-upgrade was supposed to
> remove anything.
>
>
Seems automatic to remove packages no longer needed.


> Am I dealing with root-kit or malware of some kind??
>
> Lisi
>
>


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Re: GNOME 3.20 dropped support for tap-to-click?

[Francois Gouget]

On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Francois Gouget wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Michael Biebl wrote:
> [...]
> > Unfortunately the synaptics package in Debian was changed to have a
> > higher priority then libinput [2]. So if you have
> > xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed you can't configure your touchpad
> > in gnome-control-center atm.
> 
> Removing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics worked. Thanks!

I've been meaning to send this for a while.

The problem with removing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is that then I 
can no longer right-click using the touchpad, neither through a hard 
click, nor by tapping. It looks like xserver-xorg-input-libinput either 
does not support it, or is not configured to support it but then I have 
not found any configuration option for it.

So things are still not working as they should :-(

-- 
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   Cahn's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions.

Re: bug mate-settings-daemon

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Fri, 01 Jul 2016 01:13:24 +0200,
hamster  a écrit :

> (mate-panel:2200): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file 
> '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission non accordée.  dconf will not 
> work properly.


bonjour,

voici un début de piste qui ne mènera pas trop loin :

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2015/11/msg00220.html
https://debian-facile.org/viewtopic.php?id=10992

si tu veut encore aller plus loin dans la trace de recherche de bug :

-a) tu supprimes ton /home/hamster
-b) tu recréer ton   /home/hamster
-c) tu copies le fichier .bashrc et .profile dans ton home
-d) tu rétablis les droits
-e) tu lances startx (attention)


application en étant root :

cd /home
mv -R /home/hamster   /home/hamster.BAK
mkdir -p /home/hamster
cp -R /etc/skel/.* /home/hamster
chown -R 1000:1000  /home/hamster
nohup strace startx -- :1



tu obtiendra tous les éléments nécessaires au bug report pour debian


et en attendant tu installes ces paquets :


task-xfce-desktop
task-desktop
task-french
task-french-desktop
task-ssh-server


slt
bernard

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 20:51:37 David Wright wrote:

> On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 19:35:44 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 June 2016 19:25:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Thursday 30 June 2016 21:12:46 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 
wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's
> > > > > people are denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear,
> > > > > they couldn't smell coffee with a nose full of it.
> > > >
> > > > Well, if either of you two (that suffered the runaway aptitude
> > > > issue) still have the /etc of the box that caused trouble,
> > > > kindly do this:
> > > >
> > > > grep -r Assume-Yes /etc
> > > >
> > > > If it returns any match in the aptitude config files, there you
> > > > have it.
> > >
> > > I have this on my desktop at home:
> > >
> > > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# grep -R Assume-Yes /etc
> > > grep: /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf: No such file or
> > > directory Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude matches
> > > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi
> > >
> > > It rather looks as though I should be worried?
> >
> > No, thats just grep being grep, it says that of ANY binary file it
> > tries to read as text.  I have spent days pouring over the manpages
> > for grep, looking for a option to feed it to make grep quit that,
> > simply because its so verbose that what you are looking for can get
> > lost in its blathering about that.
>
> I have no idea what that's meant to be the explanation for.

For the fact that it claimed /etc/alternatives/aptitude was a match when 
Lisi ran the correct grep as quoted in a previous email.

> Why does Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude trigger a match?

Because it is?

gene@coyote:/opt$ file /etc/alternatives/aptitude
/etc/alternatives/aptitude: symbolic link to /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
gene@coyote:/opt$ file /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
/usr/bin/aptitude-curses: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, 
version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, 
for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, 
BuildID[sha1]=3508f8a2610e542bc916835e4caea373c28eb8f0, stripped

> What you were running was aptitude, obviously. On my laptop:

Which "you" are you refering to, because Lisi and I have shared that same 
leaky boat experience with aptitude.

> $ which aptitude
> /usr/bin/aptitude
> $ ls -l /usr/bin/aptitude
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Oct 10  2012 /usr/bin/aptitude ->
> /etc/alternatives/aptitude $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/aptitude
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Oct 10  2012 /etc/alternatives/aptitude ->
> /usr/bin/aptitude-curses $ ls -l /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4340528 Nov  8  2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
>
> (The last line might be different if you use some version other than
> curses.)
>
> So the question becomes Why does the binary file
> /usr/bin/aptitude-curses, that you actually run, match?

Who knows, but grep, for this job, lies like a cheap rug.  file will tell 
you more. And it gives a valid answer that aptitude-curses is in fact a 
binary file.  And thats what worried Lisi, needlessly.

> Well, in order to decide whether you have typed
> aptitude --assume-yes
> aptitude needs to contain the string "assume-yes" against which to
> check your typing. Ditto Aptitude::CmdLine::Assume-Yes for checking
> against the configuration file.
>
> So a match here is no surprise and no worry.
>
> However, you should also check for anything in /root/.aptitude/config
> as that could override the /etc/ stuff. (Probably nothing.)
> So your problem might boil down to why aptitude thought all those
> packages should go, ie what happened to the package(s) at the top
> of the dependency chain(s) whose job was to keep them all installed.
>
> Sorry I don't have much experience of aptitude other than the
> visual interface (ie no action given on the command line).
> I'm really an apt-get user. In order to remove "unused" packages,
> I have to type   apt-get autoremove   which I sometimes do in response
> to its telling me there are such packages lying around. It's not
> easy for me to tell from the documentation whether "Installed packages
> will not be removed unless they are unused (see the section “Managing
> Automatically Installed Packages” in the aptitude reference manual)¹"
> means that they'll be removed automatically without any further
> confirmation.
>
> ¹safe-upgrade in man aptitude.
>
> Cheers,
> David.


Cheers David, Gene Heskett
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Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[David Wright]

On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 19:35:44 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 30 June 2016 19:25:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 June 2016 21:12:46 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's
> > > > people are denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear, they
> > > > couldn't smell coffee with a nose full of it.
> > >
> > > Well, if either of you two (that suffered the runaway aptitude
> > > issue) still have the /etc of the box that caused trouble, kindly do
> > > this:
> > >
> > > grep -r Assume-Yes /etc
> > >
> > > If it returns any match in the aptitude config files, there you have
> > > it.
> >
> > I have this on my desktop at home:
> >
> > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# grep -R Assume-Yes /etc
> > grep: /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf: No such file or directory
> > Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude matches
> > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi
> >
> > It rather looks as though I should be worried?
> 
> No, thats just grep being grep, it says that of ANY binary file it tries 
> to read as text.  I have spent days pouring over the manpages for grep, 
> looking for a option to feed it to make grep quit that, simply because 
> its so verbose that what you are looking for can get lost in its 
> blathering about that.

I have no idea what that's meant to be the explanation for.

Why does Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude trigger a match?

What you were running was aptitude, obviously. On my laptop:

$ which aptitude
/usr/bin/aptitude
$ ls -l /usr/bin/aptitude
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Oct 10  2012 /usr/bin/aptitude -> 
/etc/alternatives/aptitude
$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/aptitude
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Oct 10  2012 /etc/alternatives/aptitude -> 
/usr/bin/aptitude-curses
$ ls -l /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4340528 Nov  8  2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-curses

(The last line might be different if you use some version other than curses.)

So the question becomes Why does the binary file
/usr/bin/aptitude-curses, that you actually run, match?

Well, in order to decide whether you have typed
aptitude --assume-yes
aptitude needs to contain the string "assume-yes" against which to
check your typing. Ditto Aptitude::CmdLine::Assume-Yes for checking
against the configuration file.

So a match here is no surprise and no worry.

However, you should also check for anything in /root/.aptitude/config
as that could override the /etc/ stuff. (Probably nothing.)
So your problem might boil down to why aptitude thought all those
packages should go, ie what happened to the package(s) at the top
of the dependency chain(s) whose job was to keep them all installed.

Sorry I don't have much experience of aptitude other than the
visual interface (ie no action given on the command line).
I'm really an apt-get user. In order to remove "unused" packages,
I have to type   apt-get autoremove   which I sometimes do in response
to its telling me there are such packages lying around. It's not
easy for me to tell from the documentation whether "Installed packages
will not be removed unless they are unused (see the section “Managing
Automatically Installed Packages” in the aptitude reference manual)¹"
means that they'll be removed automatically without any further
confirmation.

¹safe-upgrade in man aptitude.

Cheers,
David.

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 01 July 2016 00:35:44 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 30 June 2016 19:25:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 June 2016 21:12:46 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's
> > > > people are denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear, they
> > > > couldn't smell coffee with a nose full of it.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >
> > > Well, if either of you two (that suffered the runaway aptitude
> > > issue) still have the /etc of the box that caused trouble, kindly do
> > > this:
> > >
> > > grep -r Assume-Yes /etc
> > >
> > > If it returns any match in the aptitude config files, there you have
> > > it.
> >
> > I have this on my desktop at home:
> >
> > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# grep -R Assume-Yes /etc
> > grep: /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf: No such file or directory
> > Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude matches
> > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi
> >
> > It rather looks as though I should be worried?
> >
> > Lisi
>
> No, thats just grep being grep, it says that of ANY binary file it tries
> to read as text.  I have spent days pouring over the manpages for grep,
> looking for a option to feed it to make grep quit that, simply because
> its so verbose that what you are looking for can get lost in its
> blathering about that.

Thanks, Gene. :-)

Lisi

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 01 July 2016 00:14:34 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > assumed, it wasn't asked to remove anything.  It was asked to add one
> > thing which in now way depended on anything removed.  That is what
> > puzzles me.  And
>
> I don't know why it would do that.  Well, it shouldn't ask about
> deleting one thousand packages if you asked it to install one package...
> but it certainly is supposed to ask about installing that one package
> *after* informing you that it would remove one thousand packages in
> order to do that.

Yes.  I expressed myself badly.  I was having difficulty seeing the screen and 
therefore typing.  If I ask for one thing and it asks no questions at all I 
expect it to install only one thing.  If it wants to install a load of 
dependencies, or, even worse, remove half the system, I expect it ot ask 
me!!!

> Note that I am assuming neither of you did "aptitude -y", that would be
> bad and would also explain what happened.

I used bash's history to confirm that I had had no such mental aberration.  It 
confirmed that, after the root screen prompt, I had typed:
aptitude install libreoffice-grammarcheck-en-gb
and nothing else - well, , of course.

Lisi

>
> > And why did ctrl-C have no effect at all?
>
> Try this when you open a root session (in a typical console, and
> certainly in a typical graphical terminal):
>
>   stty sane

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 19:25:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Thursday 30 June 2016 21:12:46 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's
> > > people are denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear, they
> > > couldn't smell coffee with a nose full of it.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > Well, if either of you two (that suffered the runaway aptitude
> > issue) still have the /etc of the box that caused trouble, kindly do
> > this:
> >
> > grep -r Assume-Yes /etc
> >
> > If it returns any match in the aptitude config files, there you have
> > it.
>
> I have this on my desktop at home:
>
> root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# grep -R Assume-Yes /etc
> grep: /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf: No such file or directory
> Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude matches
> root@Tux-II:/home/lisi
>
> It rather looks as though I should be worried?
>
> Lisi

No, thats just grep being grep, it says that of ANY binary file it tries 
to read as text.  I have spent days pouring over the manpages for grep, 
looking for a option to feed it to make grep quit that, simply because 
its so verbose that what you are looking for can get lost in its 
blathering about that.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 21:12:46 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's people are
> > denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear, they couldn't smell
> > coffee with a nose full of it.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Well, if either of you two (that suffered the runaway aptitude issue)
> still have the /etc of the box that caused trouble, kindly do this:
>
> grep -r Assume-Yes /etc
>
> If it returns any match in the aptitude config files, there you have it.

I have this on my desktop at home:

root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# grep -R Assume-Yes /etc
grep: /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf: No such file or directory
Binary file /etc/alternatives/aptitude matches
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi

It rather looks as though I should be worried?

Lisi

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, 01 Jul 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> assumed, it wasn't asked to remove anything.  It was asked to add one thing 
> which in now way depended on anything removed.  That is what puzzles me.  And 

I don't know why it would do that.  Well, it shouldn't ask about
deleting one thousand packages if you asked it to install one package...
but it certainly is supposed to ask about installing that one package
*after* informing you that it would remove one thousand packages in
order to do that.

Note that I am assuming neither of you did "aptitude -y", that would be
bad and would also explain what happened.

> And why did ctrl-C have no effect at all?

Try this when you open a root session (in a typical console, and
certainly in a typical graphical terminal):

stty sane

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: bug mate-settings-daemon

[hamster]

Le 30/06/2016 23:49, hamster a écrit :

cd /home
mv  /home/hamster  /home/hamster.OLD
mkdir -p hamster
cp /etc/skel/.* /home/hamster
chown -R 1000:1000 hamster


Je vais essayer, mais la aussi je n'ai qu'une méthode pour savoir si ca
améliore ou pas : travailler sur l'ordi un certain temps.


Apres ces quelques manips j'ai redémarré l'ordi et j'ai eu un joli 
bureau tout propre et tout vide (comme prévu). Ca a mis moins d'une 
minute a planter a nouveau. Fichiers de log en piece jointe, sauf pour 
tail -f .xsession-errors parce que le fichier fait plus de 5 Mo. Il 
contiens a l'infini la ligne qu'on voit dans tail-n-xsession-errors.txt, 
avec en plus intercalé entre toutes ces lignes de temps en temps cette 
autre ligne :


(mate-panel:2200): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file 
'/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission non accordée.  dconf will not 
work properly.
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[0.00] Linux version 3.16.0-4-686-pae (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) 
(gcc version 4.8.4 (Debian 4.8.4-1) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u2 
(2016-06-25)
[0.00] Disabled fast string operations
[0.00] e820: BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x-0x0009efff] usable
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0009f000-0x0009] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0010-0x3f7d37ff] usable
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x3f7d3800-0x3fff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xe000-0xf0006fff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xf0008000-0xf000bfff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xfec0-0xfec0] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xfed2-0xfee0] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xffb0-0x] reserved
[0.00] NX (Execute Disable) protection: active
[0.00] SMBIOS 0.3 present.
[0.00] DMI: Dell Inc. Latitude D510   /0N8719, BIOS A04 
12/27/2005
[0.00] e820: update [mem 0x-0x0fff] usable ==> reserved
[0.00] e820: remove [mem 0x000a-0x000f] usable
[0.00] e820: last_pfn = 0x3f7d3 max_arch_pfn = 0x100
[0.00] MTRR default type: uncachable
[0.00] MTRR fixed ranges enabled:
[0.00]   0-9 write-back
[0.00]   A-B uncachable
[0.00]   C-C write-protect
[0.00]   D-E uncachable
[0.00]   F-F write-protect
[0.00] MTRR variable ranges enabled:
[0.00]   0 base 0 mask FC000 write-back
[0.00]   1 base 03F80 mask FFF80 uncachable
[0.00]   2 base 0FEDA mask E write-through
[0.00]   3 disabled
[0.00]   4 disabled
[0.00]   5 disabled
[0.00]   6 disabled
[0.00]   7 disabled
[0.00] PAT not supported by CPU.
[0.00] initial memory mapped: [mem 0x-0x01bf]
[0.00] Base memory trampoline at [c009b000] 9b000 size 16384
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x-0x000f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x-0x000f] page 4k
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3720-0x373f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3720-0x373f] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3400-0x371f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3400-0x371f] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x0010-0x33ff]
[0.00]  [mem 0x0010-0x001f] page 4k
[0.00]  [mem 0x0020-0x33ff] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3740-0x375fdfff]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3740-0x375fdfff] page 4k
[0.00] BRK [0x0179d000, 0x0179dfff] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x0179e000, 0x0179] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x017a, 0x017a0fff] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x017a1000, 0x017a1fff] PGTABLE
[0.00] RAMDISK: [mem 0x363f4000-0x371f1fff]
[0.00] ACPI: Early table checksum verification disabled
[0.00] ACPI: RSDP 0x000FC9B0 14 (v00 DELL  )
[0.00] ACPI: RSDT 0x3F7D3FD3 40 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: FACP 0x3F7D4C00 74 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: DSDT 0x3F7D5800 0033B3 (v01 INT430 SYSFexxx 
1001 MSFT 010E)
[0.00] ACPI: FACS 0x3F7E4000 40
[0.00] ACPI: APIC 0x3F7D5400 68 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0047)
[0.00] ACPI: MCFG 0x3F7D53C0 3E (v16 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: BOOT 0x3F7D4FC0 28 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 0x3F7D43E6 00023E (v01 PmRef  Cpu0Ist  
3000 INTL 20030522)
[0.00] 

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 17:25:41 Francesco Ariis wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 05:27:16PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I ran
> > # aptitude install libreoffice-grammarcheck-en-gb
> > and aptitude just carried on without asking as is correct when there
> > is only one package; but it proceeded to uninstall my entire desktop
> > environment, hundreds of packages.
>
> Is this Debian or FrankenDebian?

You might well ask!!

Lis

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 20:27:03 Brian wrote:
> On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 19:59:52 +0200, Hans wrote:
> > Correct myself:
> > > I used the log file and edited it that way, that I took all the
> > > packagages from it and made an "aptitude reinstall" in front of the
> > > package list.
> >
> > Then I made a shellscript of it, just added the shebang line and made it
> > executable with root-permissions.
>
> This is a viable approach but let us not lose sight of the fact that the
> situation is recoverable. It isn't as though something critical to the
> system has been removed; just a few packages which are easily put back
> on the existing system.

:-))  Thank you, Brian.  A comforting thought on which to go to bed.

Thanks to all of you who replied.  I am too shattered now to give considered 
responses to all of you, that is assuming that you would like them to be 
vaguely coherent!!

This was the desktop.  I am about to post in one of the of the threads about 
the laptop and whether my despairing decision to reinstall that has been 
misplaced.

Lisi

Re: bug mate-settings-daemon

[hamster]

Mon mail n'arrive pas sur la liste, sans doute a cause du poids des 
pieces jointes. Je le renvoie donc sans la piece jointe lourde.


Le résultat de tail -f .xsession-errors > tail-f-xsession-errors.txt 
pese 1,6 Mo (ca depend du temps que je met a faire control-C) et il 
contiens a l'infini la ligne qui est en 4 exemplaires dans le fichier 
tail-n-xsession-errors.txt


Le 30/06/2016 23:49, hamster a écrit :

Le 30/06/2016 22:37, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

que donne la commande :

tail -f /var/log/messages
dmesg
tail -f .xsession-errors
tail -n10 .xsession-errors


En pieces jointes.
Je suppose que tu souhaite que je fasse ces commandes pendant un
plantage, mais pour ca il faut que j'attende un plantage.


Bon ben voila, ca a pas trop trainé.

[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[0.00] Linux version 3.16.0-4-686-pae (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) 
(gcc version 4.8.4 (Debian 4.8.4-1) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u2 
(2016-06-25)
[0.00] Disabled fast string operations
[0.00] e820: BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x-0x0009efff] usable
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0009f000-0x0009] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0010-0x3f7d37ff] usable
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x3f7d3800-0x3fff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xe000-0xf0006fff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xf0008000-0xf000bfff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xfec0-0xfec0] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xfed2-0xfee0] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xffb0-0x] reserved
[0.00] NX (Execute Disable) protection: active
[0.00] SMBIOS 0.3 present.
[0.00] DMI: Dell Inc. Latitude D510   /0N8719, BIOS A04 
12/27/2005
[0.00] e820: update [mem 0x-0x0fff] usable ==> reserved
[0.00] e820: remove [mem 0x000a-0x000f] usable
[0.00] e820: last_pfn = 0x3f7d3 max_arch_pfn = 0x100
[0.00] MTRR default type: uncachable
[0.00] MTRR fixed ranges enabled:
[0.00]   0-9 write-back
[0.00]   A-B uncachable
[0.00]   C-C write-protect
[0.00]   D-E uncachable
[0.00]   F-F write-protect
[0.00] MTRR variable ranges enabled:
[0.00]   0 base 0 mask FC000 write-back
[0.00]   1 base 03F80 mask FFF80 uncachable
[0.00]   2 base 0FEDA mask E write-through
[0.00]   3 disabled
[0.00]   4 disabled
[0.00]   5 disabled
[0.00]   6 disabled
[0.00]   7 disabled
[0.00] PAT not supported by CPU.
[0.00] initial memory mapped: [mem 0x-0x01bf]
[0.00] Base memory trampoline at [c009b000] 9b000 size 16384
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x-0x000f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x-0x000f] page 4k
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3720-0x373f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3720-0x373f] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3400-0x371f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3400-0x371f] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x0010-0x33ff]
[0.00]  [mem 0x0010-0x001f] page 4k
[0.00]  [mem 0x0020-0x33ff] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3740-0x375fdfff]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3740-0x375fdfff] page 4k
[0.00] BRK [0x0179d000, 0x0179dfff] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x0179e000, 0x0179] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x017a, 0x017a0fff] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x017a1000, 0x017a1fff] PGTABLE
[0.00] RAMDISK: [mem 0x363f4000-0x371f1fff]
[0.00] ACPI: Early table checksum verification disabled
[0.00] ACPI: RSDP 0x000FC9B0 14 (v00 DELL  )
[0.00] ACPI: RSDT 0x3F7D3FD3 40 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: FACP 0x3F7D4C00 74 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: DSDT 0x3F7D5800 0033B3 (v01 INT430 SYSFexxx 
1001 MSFT 010E)
[0.00] ACPI: FACS 0x3F7E4000 40
[0.00] ACPI: APIC 0x3F7D5400 68 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0047)
[0.00] ACPI: MCFG 0x3F7D53C0 3E (v16 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: BOOT 0x3F7D4FC0 28 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 0x3F7D43E6 00023E (v01 PmRef  Cpu0Ist  
3000 INTL 20030522)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 0x3F7D420E 0001D8 (v01 PmRef  Cpu0Cst  
3001 INTL 20030522)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 21:12:46 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's people are
> > denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear, they couldn't smell
> > coffee with a nose full of it.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Well, if either of you two (that suffered the runaway aptitude issue)
> still have the /etc of the box that caused trouble, kindly do this:
>
> grep -r Assume-Yes /etc
>
> If it returns any match in the aptitude config files, there you have it.

Thank you, Henrique.  I still have access to the box. Not immediately - but 
no-one will change anything unless I am there.  But whatever is or is not 
assumed, it wasn't asked to remove anything.  It was asked to add one thing 
which in now way depended on anything removed.  That is what puzzles me.  And 
the rest of the time it was asking as one would expect!!  But I will look and 
let the list know!

If there is, what then?

And why did ctrl-C have no effect at all?

Lisi

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 16:12:46 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:

> grep -r Assume-Yes /etc

100% missing here, but lemme see what happens when I use the recursive -R 
since I can't ever recall using the lower case r for recursion.

That took at least 3 or 4 minutes to complete, whereas the -r was back in 
500 milliseconds or so.

The only positive response should be a never mind:

/etc/httpd/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/console.py:if 
(not apt_pkg.config.find_b("APT::Get::Assume-Yes") and

Everthing else is the ^&%$ binary file matches, or "no such file or 
directory"

So I do not see anything that looks like its my problem, and that file is 
a softlink to:
ls -l /usr/share/pyshared/aptdaemon/console.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31055 Jun 11  
2012 /usr/share/pyshared/aptdaemon/console.py

Rather ancient and which doesn't look as if its ever been molested by me.

Next fishing holes address?  Nobody home at this one...

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Problème certificat SSL site Web : résolu...

[andre_debian]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 23:14:23 Sébastien Dinot wrote:
> andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> > Ce lien n'indique pas la méthode du certificat unique avec 
> > ou sans www chez StartSSL.

> J'abandonne !

Oui bof..! 

La prochaine fois je t'écrirai la même chose.

j'ai vu finalement :
"The first entry will be the common name of the certificate,
"you can enter up to 5 hostnames, one line one hostname with Enter,
 or separate each hostname with a comma".

J'abandonne... mon PC pour aller dormir.

André

Re: bug mate-settings-daemon

[hamster]

Le 30/06/2016 22:37, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

que donne la commande :

tail -f /var/log/messages
dmesg
tail -f .xsession-errors
tail -n10 .xsession-errors


En pieces jointes.
Je suppose que tu souhaite que je fasse ces commandes pendant un 
plantage, mais pour ca il faut que j'attende un plantage. Je ne sais pas 
le faire planter a la demande.



cd /home
mv  /home/hamster  /home/hamster.OLD
mkdir -p hamster
cp /etc/skel/.* /home/hamster
chown -R 1000:1000 hamster


Je vais essayer, mais la aussi je n'ai qu'une méthode pour savoir si ca 
améliore ou pas : travailler sur l'ordi un certain temps.
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[0.00] Linux version 3.16.0-4-686-pae (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) 
(gcc version 4.8.4 (Debian 4.8.4-1) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u2 
(2016-06-25)
[0.00] Disabled fast string operations
[0.00] e820: BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x-0x0009efff] usable
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0009f000-0x0009] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0010-0x3f7d37ff] usable
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x3f7d3800-0x3fff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xe000-0xf0006fff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xf0008000-0xf000bfff] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xfec0-0xfec0] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xfed2-0xfee0] reserved
[0.00] BIOS-e820: [mem 0xffb0-0x] reserved
[0.00] NX (Execute Disable) protection: active
[0.00] SMBIOS 0.3 present.
[0.00] DMI: Dell Inc. Latitude D510   /0N8719, BIOS A04 
12/27/2005
[0.00] e820: update [mem 0x-0x0fff] usable ==> reserved
[0.00] e820: remove [mem 0x000a-0x000f] usable
[0.00] e820: last_pfn = 0x3f7d3 max_arch_pfn = 0x100
[0.00] MTRR default type: uncachable
[0.00] MTRR fixed ranges enabled:
[0.00]   0-9 write-back
[0.00]   A-B uncachable
[0.00]   C-C write-protect
[0.00]   D-E uncachable
[0.00]   F-F write-protect
[0.00] MTRR variable ranges enabled:
[0.00]   0 base 0 mask FC000 write-back
[0.00]   1 base 03F80 mask FFF80 uncachable
[0.00]   2 base 0FEDA mask E write-through
[0.00]   3 disabled
[0.00]   4 disabled
[0.00]   5 disabled
[0.00]   6 disabled
[0.00]   7 disabled
[0.00] PAT not supported by CPU.
[0.00] initial memory mapped: [mem 0x-0x01bf]
[0.00] Base memory trampoline at [c009b000] 9b000 size 16384
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x-0x000f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x-0x000f] page 4k
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3720-0x373f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3720-0x373f] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3400-0x371f]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3400-0x371f] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x0010-0x33ff]
[0.00]  [mem 0x0010-0x001f] page 4k
[0.00]  [mem 0x0020-0x33ff] page 2M
[0.00] init_memory_mapping: [mem 0x3740-0x375fdfff]
[0.00]  [mem 0x3740-0x375fdfff] page 4k
[0.00] BRK [0x0179d000, 0x0179dfff] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x0179e000, 0x0179] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x017a, 0x017a0fff] PGTABLE
[0.00] BRK [0x017a1000, 0x017a1fff] PGTABLE
[0.00] RAMDISK: [mem 0x363f4000-0x371f1fff]
[0.00] ACPI: Early table checksum verification disabled
[0.00] ACPI: RSDP 0x000FC9B0 14 (v00 DELL  )
[0.00] ACPI: RSDT 0x3F7D3FD3 40 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: FACP 0x3F7D4C00 74 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: DSDT 0x3F7D5800 0033B3 (v01 INT430 SYSFexxx 
1001 MSFT 010E)
[0.00] ACPI: FACS 0x3F7E4000 40
[0.00] ACPI: APIC 0x3F7D5400 68 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0047)
[0.00] ACPI: MCFG 0x3F7D53C0 3E (v16 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: BOOT 0x3F7D4FC0 28 (v01 DELL   D05  
27D50C1B ASL  0061)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 0x3F7D43E6 00023E (v01 PmRef  Cpu0Ist  
3000 INTL 20030522)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 0x3F7D420E 0001D8 (v01 PmRef  Cpu0Cst  
3001 INTL 20030522)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 0x3F7D4013 0001FB (v01 PmRef  CpuPm
3000 INTL 20030522)
[0.00] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
[0.00] 129MB HIGHMEM available.

Re: Problème certificat SSL site Web : résolu...

[Sébastien Dinot]

andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> Ce lien n'indique pas la méthode du certificat unique avec ou sans www
> chez StartSSL.

J'abandonne !

Sébastien

-- 
Sébastien Dinot, sebastien.di...@free.fr
http://sebastien.dinot.free.fr/
Ne goûtez pas au logiciel libre, vous ne pourriez plus vous en passer !

Re: bug mate-settings-daemon

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:53:20 +0200,
hamster  a écrit :

> Le 29/06/2016 13:39, Haricophile a écrit :
> > je ne
> > sais pas pourquoi dconf n'a pas créé l'entrée à un moment ou un
> > autre, tu devrais essayer de la créer manuellement.  
> 
> C'est un peu plus compliqué que ca.
> 
> Au demarrage de l'ordi, ce fichier n'y est pas. Au bout d'un moment
> il apparait. Ensuite, selon les applications qu'on lance il est
> toujours présent mais par moments il appartiens a l'utilisateur, par
> moments il appartiens a root. Je n'ai pas compris ce qui provoque ces
> changements de proprietaire. Par moments il disparait, puis
> réapparait.
> 
> Quand ca plante, pendant que mate-settings-daemon ou mate-panel est 
> occupé a remplir copieusement la RAM, je verifie que ce fichier est 
> toujours la :
> 
> ~$ ls -l /run/user/1000/dconf/
> -rw--- 1 1000 1000   2 juin  30 19:33 user
> 
> Toujours pendant le plantage, j'ai aussi essayé de lire le fichier 
> .xsession-errors avec cat. Et ben ca défile en permanence et cat 
> n'arrive jamais a la fin du fichier. Ce qui défile, c'est toujours la 
> meme ligne. par exemple :
> 
> (mate-panel:2638): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file 
> '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission non accordée.  dconf will not 
> work properly.
> 
> Le n° du processus en début de ligne est bien celui que je vois me 
> remplir la RAM avec htop.
> 
> Voyant que dconf est cité dans cette ligne, j'ai essayé de supprimer 
> dconf-editor. Ca plante toujours pareil et la ligne est toujours 
> présente égale a elle meme.
> 
> J'ai aussi fait des grands coups de grep -r mate-panel /var/log et
> grep -r mate-settings-daemon /var/log, sans résultat autre que les
> messages de dpkg datant de l'installation.
> 
> Je n'ai toujours pas trouvé ce qui déclenche ce bug. D'une fois sur 
> l'autre, ce que je suis entrain de faire quand ca plante n'est jamais
> la meme chose.
> 

bonjour,

que donne la commande :

tail -f /var/log/messages
dmesg
tail -f .xsession-errors
tail -n10 .xsession-errors

remarque la commande "cat" est bien à employer avec parcimonie

exemple : cat fichier |less


proposition à faire en mode root pour test et en étant dans un 
TTY [1-6] (déloguer de la session user graphique)

cd /home
mv  /home/hamster  /home/hamster.OLD
mkdir -p hamster 
cp /etc/skel/.* /home/hamster
chown -R 1000:1000 hamster



slt
bernard

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's people are 
> denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear, they couldn't smell 
> coffee with a nose full of it.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Well, if either of you two (that suffered the runaway aptitude issue)
still have the /etc of the box that caused trouble, kindly do this:

grep -r Assume-Yes /etc

If it returns any match in the aptitude config files, there you have it.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 12:27:16 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> I ran
> # aptitude install libreoffice-grammarcheck-en-gb
> and aptitude just carried on without asking as is correct when there
> is only one package; but it proceeded to uninstall my entire desktop
> environment, hundreds of packages.  I couldn't believe it and used the
> bash history to confirm that that was ALL I had typed.  Moreover, it
> wouldn't respond to control-C.
>
> Whatever happened?
>
> 
> And it isn't even my computer.
>
> Lisi

I know that face in palm feeling well Lisi, it bit me in a similar manner 
about 2 weeks ago. And was just as unstoppable.  Its a right PITA, and 
aptitude has now be declared personna-non-grata on my 4 systems.  
apt-get was able to put me back together eventually.

Thats not excusable behavior, but whats worse is that debian's people are 
denying there is a problem.  'scuse me? I swear, they couldn't smell 
coffee with a nose full of it.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Leitora código de barras via porta serial

[Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro]

2016-06-30 16:29 GMT-03:00 villani :
> Tenho uma leitora de código de barras (Boletos) Maxyscan, via porta serial

Serial qual?  RS-232C?


> mas o fabricante não tem driver para linux, alguém tem alguma dica de como 
> posso conseguir ler os código de barras?. Já utilizei alguns script que emula 
> um teclado via xvkbd, mas não funciona.

Geralmente leitores de códigos funcionam exatamente como teclados, mas
há muito tempo não vejo teclados RS-232C, só PS/2 e USB.


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Re: Problème certificat SSL site Web : résolu...

[Sébastien Dinot]

andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> C'est ce que j'ai tenté de faire chez StartSSL,
> et je n'ai abouti qu'à la création d'un 2ème certificat sans "www".
> Je n'ai pas vu ou ce n'est pas possible de créer un seul certif 
> avec www et sans www...

C'est pourtant expliqué dans l'interface :

https://framadrop.org/r/aI_7mkeLoi#+rFKTD5YjmQ6gPrcNvIUC6F14rrUO5WoqGqMczCY9HI=

Et par expérience, je sais que ça fonctionne :

https://www.hipparchus.org/

=> Certificate Subject Alt Name :
   DNS Name: hipparchus.org
   DNS Name: www.hipparchus.org
   
Sébastien

-- 
Sébastien Dinot, sebastien.di...@free.fr
http://sebastien.dinot.free.fr/
Ne goûtez pas au logiciel libre, vous ne pourriez plus vous en passer !

Re: aptitude again

[Jude DaShiell]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:


Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:34:23
From: Lisi Reisz 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: aptitude again
Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:35:58 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

aptitude upgrade is now removing things.  I ought, of course, to have
typed safe-upgrade, but I thought only full-upgrade was supposed to
remove anything.

Am I dealing with root-kit or malware of some kind??

Lisi

Doesn't aptitude have a --keep-all flag to cover situations like this? 
If yes, I don't know if it will work but from what little I understand 
it's supposed to install only and not delete any packages.  Will it work 
for you?  I don't know I've never had cause to use it.






--

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Hans]

Correct myself:
> I used the log file and edited it that way, that I took all the packagages
> from it and made an "aptitude reinstall" in front of the package list.

Then I made a shellscript of it, just added the shebang line and made it 
executable with root-permissions.
 
Hans

Key warning when updating

[Erwan David]

Hi,

Each time I update, I get following message

W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
1397BC53640DB551

I do not see this key in apt-key list, and all packages are trusted.
What does it mean ?


Thanks

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Hans]

> 5. Assess the damage. Glance at the output of 'dpkg -l | less'. Is X
>still about? The desktop? Anything obvious missing? Look at the files
>in /var/log/apt. All packages removed and installed are recorded.
>Supposedly aptitude also logs?
> 

I used the log file and edited it that way, that I took all the packagages from 
it and made an "aptitude reinstall" in front of the package list.

So I can be sure, all packages, which were uninstalled are now reinstalled.
As you did not use the switch "purge", I suppose, all configuration files are 
still existent.

For easy editing I am using kwrite, which has the ability to fill out vertical 
rows, not only in horizontal (like normal editors do).

Large rows I do fill with a unusual sign (i.e. a "#"). Later, when there is a 
"#" in each line, it can easily be successed with any other string you need, 
for example "aptitude reinstall -y".

Maybe this is an unusual way to fix a broken system, but doing so makes it very 
easy for me.

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck 

Hans

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Brian]

On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 17:27:16 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> I ran
> # aptitude install libreoffice-grammarcheck-en-gb
> and aptitude just carried on without asking as is correct when there
> is only one package; but it proceeded to uninstall my entire desktop
> environment, hundreds of packages.  I couldn't believe it and used the
> bash history to confirm that that was ALL I had typed.  Moreover, it
> wouldn't respond to control-C.
> 
> Whatever happened?
> 
> 
> And it isn't even my computer.

Here is what I would do:

1. Check sources.list and 'apt-get update'.

2. 'apt-get upgrade' followed by 'apt-get dist-upgrade. I'd not be
   expecting anything to be done here.

3. 'apt-get install --reinstall systemd-sysv' to ensure the init system
   is in place. (Cargo cult has its uses. :))

4. Reboot. Should be safe because you've done it earlier.

5. Assess the damage. Glance at the output of 'dpkg -l | less'. Is X
   still about? The desktop? Anything obvious missing? Look at the files
   in /var/log/apt. All packages removed and installed are recorded.
   Supposedly aptitude also logs?

6. Proceed to install anything which is you think is missing.

7. Keep the customer in the dark or spin them some tale.

8. Have a glass of sherry.

Re: systemd I/O error :-(

[Lisi Reisz]

My current init system would appear to be systemd and I do have
libpam-systemd installed.

Sorry, I am having to use the Gmail interface, and I don't get on very
well with it.

Lisi


On 30 June 2016 at 17:22, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> On 2016-06-30 16:25 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> On the laptop (i386, Dell Inspiron 9300, Intel Celeron) I am getting
>> the following message. I am at a loss as to where even to begin. :-(
>> All help welcome.
>>
>> I hoped a straight upgrade would leave me with init systemV, not
>> because I think it is better. I don't want a flame war. But because I
>> am more likely to be able to extricate myself from problems.
>
> So, what actually is your current init system?
>
>> Well, I can't extricate myself. :-( I'll plead old-age. :-(
>>
>> The message (and please excuse copying errors and typos) is:
>>
>> [24772.681833] systemd-logind[21814]: Failed to enable subscription:
>> Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
>> [24772.681890] systemd-logind[21814]: Failed to fully start up daemon:
>> Input/output errror
>
> Do you have libpam-systemd installed?
>
> Cheers,
>Sven
>

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Charlie Kravetz]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:27:16 +0100
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

>I ran
># aptitude install libreoffice-grammarcheck-en-gb
>and aptitude just carried on without asking as is correct when there
>is only one package; but it proceeded to uninstall my entire desktop
>environment, hundreds of packages.  I couldn't believe it and used the
>bash history to confirm that that was ALL I had typed.  Moreover, it
>wouldn't respond to control-C.
>
>Whatever happened?
>
>
>And it isn't even my computer.
>
>Lisi
>


I believe that is one of the complaints from Gene, too. 

-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

Re: systemd I/O error :-(

[Ric Moore]

On 06/30/2016 11:25 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On the laptop (i386, Dell Inspiron 9300, Intel Celeron) I am getting
the following message. I am at a loss as to where even to begin. :-(
All help welcome.

I hoped a straight upgrade would leave me with init systemV, not
because I think it is better. I don't want a flame war. But because I
am more likely to be able to extricate myself from problems.

Well, I can't extricate myself. :-( I'll plead old-age. :-(


Lisa, you know I love you and yours dearly from afar. That said I have 
been there done that. Backup all personal files, ~not~ 
home/system/.config/etc stuff. Then pop the install DVD in and install 
clean. Reboot and sin no more. We're both long in the tooth and don't 
need the stress. :) Ric


p/s if you don't want to go through the "version upgrade" process ever 
again, install sid. I love it.



--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: systemd I/O error :-(

[Brian]

On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 18:22:49 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

> On 2016-06-30 16:25 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> > On the laptop (i386, Dell Inspiron 9300, Intel Celeron) I am getting
> > the following message. I am at a loss as to where even to begin. :-(
> > All help welcome.
> >
> > I hoped a straight upgrade would leave me with init systemV, not
> > because I think it is better. I don't want a flame war. But because I
> > am more likely to be able to extricate myself from problems.
> 
> So, what actually is your current init system?

'cat /proc/1/comm' will tell you.

Debian 9 no reconoce tableta Android

[listascor...@msjs.co]

Buenos días lista

D9 no reconoce una tableta Samsung con Android, muestro aquí el 
resultado de algunos comandos:

Cuando la conecto no aparece ningún tipo de mensaje de error
Ya ensayé conectándola en todos los puertos USB y nada

la tableta está conectada a un puerto USB
http://paste.debian.net/772484

 cat /etc/fuse.conf
# /etc/fuse.conf - Configuration file for Filesystem in Userspace (FUSE)

# Set the maximum number of FUSE mounts allowed to non-root users.
# The default is 1000.
#mount_max = 1000

# Allow non-root users to specify the allow_other or allow_root mount 
options.

#user_allow_other


  mtp-detect
libmtp version: 1.1.11

Listing raw device(s)
   No raw devices found.

Cualquier ayuda que me den será bienvenida

Saludos;

Re: aptitude again

[Sven Joachim]

On 2016-06-30 17:34 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> aptitude upgrade is now removing things.  I ought, of course, to have
> typed safe-upgrade, but I thought only full-upgrade was supposed to
> remove anything.

It removes packages which are marked as automatically installed and are
unused (i.e. not depended upon, recommended or suggested by any
manually installed package).  This has been the default behavior for
many years (IIRC, since the safe-upgrade command has been implemented).

Cheers,
   Sven

Re: systemd I/O error :-(

[Sven Joachim]

On 2016-06-30 16:25 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On the laptop (i386, Dell Inspiron 9300, Intel Celeron) I am getting
> the following message. I am at a loss as to where even to begin. :-(
> All help welcome.
>
> I hoped a straight upgrade would leave me with init systemV, not
> because I think it is better. I don't want a flame war. But because I
> am more likely to be able to extricate myself from problems.

So, what actually is your current init system?

> Well, I can't extricate myself. :-( I'll plead old-age. :-(
>
> The message (and please excuse copying errors and typos) is:
>
> [24772.681833] systemd-logind[21814]: Failed to enable subscription:
> Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
> [24772.681890] systemd-logind[21814]: Failed to fully start up daemon:
> Input/output errror

Do you have libpam-systemd installed?

Cheers,
   Sven

aptitude again

[Lisi Reisz]

aptitude upgrade is now removing things.  I ought, of course, to have
typed safe-upgrade, but I thought only full-upgrade was supposed to
remove anything.

Am I dealing with root-kit or malware of some kind??

Lisi

Re: systemd I/O error :-(

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2016-06-30 at 16:25 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On the laptop (i386, Dell Inspiron 9300, Intel Celeron) I am getting
> the following message. I am at a loss as to where even to begin. :-(
> All help welcome.
> 
> I hoped a straight upgrade would leave me with init systemV, not
> because I think it is better. I don't want a flame war. But because I
> am more likely to be able to extricate myself from problems.
> 
> Well, I can't extricate myself. :-( I'll plead old-age. :-(
> 
> The message (and please excuse copying errors and typos) is:
> 
> [24772.681833] systemd-logind[21814]: Failed to enable subscription:
> Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
> [24772.681890] systemd-logind[21814]: Failed to fully start up
> daemon:
> Input/output errror
> 
> 
> I have Googled, and even found a related thread on this list, but
> have
> not succeeded in finding a solution.
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00663.html

Does systemctl --failed give any clues?

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se



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Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Francesco Ariis]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 05:27:16PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I ran
> # aptitude install libreoffice-grammarcheck-en-gb
> and aptitude just carried on without asking as is correct when there
> is only one package; but it proceeded to uninstall my entire desktop
> environment, hundreds of packages.

Is this Debian or FrankenDebian?

catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

[Lisi Reisz]

I ran
# aptitude install libreoffice-grammarcheck-en-gb
and aptitude just carried on without asking as is correct when there
is only one package; but it proceeded to uninstall my entire desktop
environment, hundreds of packages.  I couldn't believe it and used the
bash history to confirm that that was ALL I had typed.  Moreover, it
wouldn't respond to control-C.

Whatever happened?


And it isn't even my computer.

Lisi

Re: Un Firefox très gourmand

[Eric Degenetais]

désolé, simple erreur de manip' (pas réveillé, aujourd'hui)
Effectivement, pour la conso CPU il est plus efficace, c'est question
RAM qu'il est plus violent. Ce n'est d'ailleurs pas contradictoire,
une faible conso de CPU peut traduire un point de contention autre,
comme des cache miss ou du swap.
__
Éric Dégenètais
Henix

http://www.henix.com
http://www.squashtest.org



Le 30 juin 2016 à 17:14,   a écrit :
> On Thursday 30 June 2016 16:53:07 Éric Dégenètais wrote:
>> Le 30 juin 2016 à 16:47,   a écrit :
>> > et je découvre maintenant combien il est plus rapide que Firefox,
>
>> C'est généralement vrai, mais sur de petites configs j'ai eu
>> l'impression (pas de mesures) que les données s'inversent (il "mange"
>> plus de RAM et provoque plus de page faults, peut-être?)
>
> Pourquoi me réponds tu en privé et non sur la ML ?
>
> Pour l'instant chez moi :
> Firefox : 4% CPU
> Google : 0,3%.
>
> André

Re: Un Firefox très gourmand

[andre_debian]

On Tuesday 28 June 2016 23:28:58 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:
> Le Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:51:39 +0200
> andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit:
> > Oui, lent à démarrer car il occupe au lancement
> > ~20% de charge CPU, puis une fois établi, 
> > il passe à ~1%.

> C'est vrai qu'il est souvent plus à démarrer qu'avant même si ce n'est pas
> systématique...

J'utilise quasiment pas Google-Chrome,
et je découvre maintenant combien il est plus rapide que Firefox,
démarrage et accès aux liens, quasi instantanés.

André

Re: Problème certificat SSL site Web : résolu...

[andre_debian]

On Thursday 30 June 2016 09:57:48 Éric Dégenètais wrote:
> Donc la seule solution est effectivement d'inclure domaine.org dans
> ton certificat, comme cela t'a été indiqué.

C'est ce que j'ai tenté de faire chez StartSSL,
et je n'ai abouti qu'à la création d'un 2ème certificat sans "www".
Je n'ai pas vu ou ce n'est pas possible de créer un seul certif 
avec www et sans www...
(ça existe, mais chez d'autres fournisseurs payants).

J'ai ensuite ajouté dans le fichier "default.ssl" un 2ème paragraphe 
virtualhost, strictement identique au premier, 
sauf les certificats sans www (le 2ème obtenu ci-dessus).

Et ça semble bien marcher, quelquesoit ce que l'on tape :
domaine.org  , www.domaine.org  , http ou https...

André

Re: ThinkPad fan

[Francesco Montanari]

On 06/30/2016 10:58 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> Does your ThinkPad contain hybrid graphic adapters, an NVidia GPU?
>
> Regards,
> jvp.
>
>

Please find the info below (integrated Intel + discrete Nvidia). I
replaced the thermal paste both on the CPU and the discrete graphic card
(just followed the hardware maintenance manual). One thing that I may
have not done properly is the quantity of paste, that the manual
suggested to be precisely 0.2g. I proceeded with an educated guess
rather than measuring it...

Anyway, now most of the time the temperature stays below 60C also when
video calling (before the maintenance it reached easily 80C with Jitsi),
and goes above it (70C-80C) only after few minutes of 100% CPU usage
(when before it reached 96C). Seems reasonable?

Regards,
Francesco

# lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd
Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[8086:0126] (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:21d0]
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45
Memory at f140 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at 6000 [size=64]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled]
Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [a4] PCI Advanced Features
Kernel driver in use: i915

00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200
Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 [8086:1c3a] (rev 04)
--
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF119M
[Quadro NVS 4200M] [10de:1057] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:21d0]
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 47
Memory at f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at 5000 [size=128]
Expansion ROM at f100 [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel

Re: Fwd: Mensajes de Correo se demoran

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:23:53 -0500, Debian Linux escribió:

(ese formato...)

> El 29 de junio de 2016, 9:04, Camaleón  escribió:

(...)

>> >> ¿Seguiste algún tutorial o manual para instalar ClamAV?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > El tutorial que sigo es :
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/perfect-server-debian-8-jessie-apache-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3/
>>
>> Pues precisamente ahí dice que hagas lo contrario, es decir, que
>> actives esa variable (en Debian está habilitada de manera
>> predeterminada por lo que no tendrías que hacer nada). Así que es
>> posible que algo te falte por hacer o que estés haciéndolo mal pero
>> estando ISPConfig de por medio tienes que conciliar todos los servicios
>> entre ellos además de con el panel de control.
>>
>> Efectivamente así era, hasta hace una semana. Instalé Debian y me
> sorprendío que en la última actualización no existe esa línea

Hum... lo que dices es contradictorio :-)

Si esa línea "no estaba" no tenías que comentarla como has dicho en tu 
primer mensaje y aún así, sigue sin estar claro por qué tienes que 
desactivar esa opción para que funcione ClamAV cuando las instrucciones 
que has seguido par configurar el resto de servicios indican justamente 
lo contrario. Algo se nos escapa.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Rephrased - how to make the upgrader skip a step when it is hung without halting the entire process?

[Brian]

On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 13:27:56 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> Too late. :-(  apt-get install cups gets the same error message as above now.
> 
> On 30 June 2016 at 13:25, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > Thanks, Brian.
> >
> > ctrl-C had no effect at all.  So I shut the terminal down.  Then coudl
> > not restart a terminal so went into a virtual console and tried to do
> > # apt-get upgrade with the result:
> > E.  Could not lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock  - open (11: resource
> > temporarily unavailable)
> > E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is
> > another process using it?
> >
> > Obviously the answer is yes - but what do I do now??
> >
> > Lisi
> >
> > On 30 June 2016 at 13:11, Brian  wrote:
> >> On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 12:58:24 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am rephrasing my question: - how do I make the upgrader skip a step
> >>> when it is hung, without halting the entire process?
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, I really dislike impatient questioners, but I am at a client's
> >>> hose and I am not keen to use ctrl-C because I don't know what else
> >>> still needs doing.  I just want to skip to the next step.
> >>
> >> Your reluctance is understandable but after a ctrl-C you should be able
> >> to recover with 'apt-get upgrade' without any ill effects.

'ps ax | grep dpkg'. Kill the process. You might need 'kill -9'.

Re: Rephrased - how to make the upgrader skip a step when it is hung without halting the entire process?

[Lisi Reisz]

Too late. :-(  apt-get install cups gets the same error message as above now.

On 30 June 2016 at 13:25, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> Thanks, Brian.
>
> ctrl-C had no effect at all.  So I shut the terminal down.  Then coudl
> not restart a terminal so went into a virtual console and tried to do
> # apt-get upgrade with the result:
> E.  Could not lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock  - open (11: resource
> temporarily unavailable)
> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is
> another process using it?
>
> Obviously the answer is yes - but what do I do now??
>
> Lisi
>
> On 30 June 2016 at 13:11, Brian  wrote:
>> On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 12:58:24 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>
>>> I am rephrasing my question: - how do I make the upgrader skip a step
>>> when it is hung, without halting the entire process?
>>>
>>> Sorry, I really dislike impatient questioners, but I am at a client's
>>> hose and I am not keen to use ctrl-C because I don't know what else
>>> still needs doing.  I just want to skip to the next step.
>>
>> Your reluctance is understandable but after a ctrl-C you should be able
>> to recover with 'apt-get upgrade' without any ill effects.
>>

Re: Rephrased - how to make the upgrader skip a step when it is hung without halting the entire process?

[Brian]

On Thu 30 Jun 2016 at 12:58:24 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> I am rephrasing my question: - how do I make the upgrader skip a step
> when it is hung, without halting the entire process?
> 
> Sorry, I really dislike impatient questioners, but I am at a client's
> hose and I am not keen to use ctrl-C because I don't know what else
> still needs doing.  I just want to skip to the next step.

Your reluctance is understandable but after a ctrl-C you should be able
to recover with 'apt-get upgrade' without any ill effects.

Re: Hung version upgrade from wheezy to jessie

[Norbert Kiszka]

Dnia 2016-06-30, czw o godzinie 12:04 +0100, Lisi Reisz pisze:
> I am in the process of upgrading a desktop form Wheezy to Jessie.  So
> far it has gone fine, but it is hung here:
> 
> Restarting services possibly affected by the upgrade:
>   openbsd-inetd: restarting...done.
>   exim4: restarting...done.
>   cups: restarting...
> 
> What do I do now?
> Lisi
> 

1. Check syslog and messages.
2. Try to run apt-get upgrade with strace.

Rephrased - how to make the upgrader skip a step when it is hung without halting the entire process?

[Lisi Reisz]

I am rephrasing my question: - how do I make the upgrader skip a step
when it is hung, without halting the entire process?

Sorry, I really dislike impatient questioners, but I am at a client's
hose and I am not keen to use ctrl-C because I don't know what else
still needs doing.  I just want to skip to the next step.

Thanks,
Lisi

Re: lite.qwant

[Eric Bernard]

re,
j'ai l'explication 
Mon poste est intégré sur un réseau scribe et le script d'installation 
du client fait de qwant le moteur de recherche par défaut !!!

Je préfère ça 


Le 30/06/2016 10:04, Eric Degenetais a écrit :

bonjour,
je ne crois pas que le plugin qwant ait à voir avec la page d'accueil: 
il ne fait qu'ajouter Qwant à la barre de recherche.


Tu dis bien *toute* autre page d'accueil? Ou bien celle de Qwant? Il 
est possible que qwant te redirige automatiqueement en réaction à ton 
user agent (lite.qwant étant pensé pour les clients "anciens" ou les 
petites config...), par contre c'est effectivement très étrange si tu 
es systématiquement renvoyé vers lite.qwant



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Le 30 juin 2016 à 09:36, Eric Bernard 
> a écrit :


Bonjour,
Il existe un moteur de recherche français : qwant et une version
plus légère lite.qwant.
le problème que je rencontre est que par défaut dans firefox, j'ai
lite.qwant et impossible de m'en débarrasser, il revient
systématiquement. Il n'est ni dans extensions et ni dans plugin.
Si j'étais sur windows, je comprendrais mais sur une installation
toute neuve d'un Xubuntu, ça m'inquiète un peu !!!
J'ai rien trouvé sur internet de concret. Il existe bien un plugin
qwant mais pas lite.qwant. J'ai testé l'ajout et le retrait de ce
plugin au cas ou, mais pareil 
A part mettre une page vide, toute autre page d'accueil me renvoi
sur lite.qwant 

Avez-vous plus d'info la-dessus ?

Merci



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Re: lite.qwant

[Bernard Siorat]

Bonjour,

Édition => Préférences => Recherche ?

Le 30/06/2016 à 09:36, Eric Bernard a écrit :
> Bonjour,
> Il existe un moteur de recherche français : qwant et une version plus légère 
> lite.qwant.
> le problème que je rencontre est que par défaut dans firefox, j'ai lite.qwant 
> et 
> impossible de m'en débarrasser, il revient systématiquement. Il n'est ni dans 
> extensions et ni dans plugin.
> Si j'étais sur windows, je comprendrais mais sur une installation toute neuve 
> d'un Xubuntu, ça m'inquiète un peu !!!
> J'ai rien trouvé sur internet de concret. Il existe bien un plugin qwant mais 
> pas lite.qwant. J'ai testé l'ajout et le retrait de ce plugin au cas ou, mais 
> pareil 
> A part mettre une page vide, toute autre page d'accueil me renvoi sur 
> lite.qwant 
> 
> 
> Avez-vous plus d'info la-dessus ?
> 
> Merci
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
>   
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> 
> 

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Re: Sound problem : on tablet Z3735 with bytcrrt5640

[Michael Lange]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:50:51 +0800
Gener Badenas  wrote:

> 
> 
> But Intel now is out of the game of producing mobile socs.  they may not
> fix this at all

A couple weeks ago when I was looking for a possible way to fix things
for my Ideapad I happened to come across some threads on kernel
developer's lists where I saw (to my surprise) that Intel actually seems
to have several people working on this and other Intel-related issues
(at least their mail addresses n...@intel.com seemed to suggest they work
for intel).
I also noticed that when I tried the latest 4.7rc kernel that the error
messages during boot have become less, which also seems to indicate that
things are going ahead (still so far no audio here and a few other things
also still missing).
I guess anything that we can do for now with such a device is to make
sure we have the latest efi/bios installed, and keep the
firmware/microcode and kernel packages up to date and hope for the best,
but at least I think there is still hope.

Regards

Michael


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Re: lite.qwant

[Eric Degenetais]

bonjour,
je ne crois pas que le plugin qwant ait à voir avec la page d'accueil: il
ne fait qu'ajouter Qwant à la barre de recherche.

Tu dis bien *toute* autre page d'accueil? Ou bien celle de Qwant? Il est
possible que qwant te redirige automatiqueement en réaction à ton user
agent (lite.qwant étant pensé pour les clients "anciens" ou les petites
config...), par contre c'est effectivement très étrange si tu es
systématiquement renvoyé vers lite.qwant


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http://www.squashtest.org


Le 30 juin 2016 à 09:36, Eric Bernard <
eric.bern...@saint-louis-saumur-ec49.org> a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> Il existe un moteur de recherche français : qwant et une version plus
> légère lite.qwant.
> le problème que je rencontre est que par défaut dans firefox, j'ai
> lite.qwant et impossible de m'en débarrasser, il revient systématiquement.
> Il n'est ni dans extensions et ni dans plugin.
> Si j'étais sur windows, je comprendrais mais sur une installation toute
> neuve d'un Xubuntu, ça m'inquiète un peu !!!
> J'ai rien trouvé sur internet de concret. Il existe bien un plugin qwant
> mais pas lite.qwant. J'ai testé l'ajout et le retrait de ce plugin au cas
> ou, mais pareil 
> A part mettre une page vide, toute autre page d'accueil me renvoi sur
> lite.qwant 
>
> Avez-vous plus d'info la-dessus ?
>
> Merci
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>   Eric BERNARD
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>   et multimédia
>   02 41 51 11 36
>
>

Re: Problème certificat SSL site Web

[Eric Degenetais]

Le 29 juin 2016 à 19:32,  a écrit :
>
> RewriteEngine On
> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^domaine.org$
> RewriteRule ^(.*) https://www.domaine..org$1  [QSA,R=301]


AMHA, non: ces directives n'entrent en jeu que quand le serveur
commence à répondre, autrement dit APRÈS la négo SSL. Donc si ton
certificat n'est pas valide pour domaine.org, les directives ne
contourneront pas le problème, parce que la connexion ne sera jamais
établie (le client coupera court).

Donc la seule solution est effectivement d'inclure domaine.org dans
ton certificat, comme cela t'a été indiqué.

bonne journée

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Re: ThinkPad fan

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Does your ThinkPad contain hybrid graphic adapters, an NVidia GPU?

Regards,
jvp.

Re: Interesting audio problem

[deloptes]

David Niklas wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:48:12 deloptes wrote:
> Thanks all, deloptes questioned me the most thoroughly so I'm replying to
> him.
> 
>> David Niklas wrote:
>> 
>> > Hello,
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> > I'm not running debian, rather Gentoo, but this happens with any
>> > distro and sound card (so far), so I figured this is as good a place
>> > as any to start (though linuxquestions is a close second).
>> > 
>> > My sound card is currently (according to lspci), an ATI/ATI SBx00
>> > Azalia (Intel HDA), though I used another ATI card on another MB
>> > before the MB broke (the MB was a lemon). Both cards are built into
>> > the MB.
>> > 
>> > The said problem also happens independent of the audio playing app.
>> > 
>> > The problem is this, if I plug an audio jack for my headphone into the
>> > jack the whole way then I get a lot less volume on the channels. I
>> > don't think it's a decrease in the bass, though it might be.
>> > 
>> > Now, if I pull the headphone jack out, just a bit, it plays everything
>> > fine.
>> > 
>> > This is a little odd, and I might just dismiss it as a random quirk of
>> > my machine, but now it has happened to my laptops headphone jack
>> > too.
>> 
>> Did you try with different cables/jacks? What type of jack is it -
>> perhaps you soldiered yourself, or perhaps some special headphones -
>> just asking? In my opinion it might be either hardware - jack is
>> shortening, or some odd setting somewhere, but if latter it wouldn't be
>> same on different board. Anyway for the case it is not the jack itself
>> we would need some additional info. In debian
> Yes, I'm pretty certain that this is a hardware problem. I've tried
> different headphones to no avail. The jack is built into the MB.
> I was curious if others have experienced this, maybe all I have to do is
> open the plastic jack case on the MB and adjust something. I'd try this
> without your help but I, frankly, don't know if it would work/what I'm
> doing and I want to know what I'm doing when messing with the MB.

What we meant was not the female jack on the board, but the male jack of
your head phones or amplifier. Some vendors do not follow the standards
(like Apple).
The female jack on the board should be standard though - unless you use some
exotic hardware.

> 
> <>
>> cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>  HDA Intel PCH at 0xc061 irq 28
>> cat /proc/asound/card*/codec*
>> cat /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
>> 
>> Please attach or upload somewhere.
> They are attached
> 

This is well known Codec: Realtek ALC282
I'm just not sure if you have Line-In jack there. I mean if you can record
stereo from external source.
This would explain why you hear only one line. You can check easily the
specs of your mainboard. I couldn't find stereo capture and I'm not an
expert.

I found this here
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2014-January/071161.html

Could be that you need to try recent kernel version

>> 
>> Another option would be a setting to turn off speaker when you plugin
>> headphones.
> Why? And there are not speakers, at least on my desktop. The laptop
> speakers I mute when using headphones, they used to auto mute, but now
> the computer thinks the hp are always attached so I turned that off.
> 
>> > 
>> > Also, I've recorded some audio from an old cassette tape onto my
>> > computer (cassette tape players are getting hard to find), and some
>> > of the said audio I somehow got to require that the headphone jack be
>> > fully plugged in to play correctly. [scratches head] I with I knew
>> > how I did this, it's really odd.
>> >   
>> 
>> There is no connection between these two. What means correctly?
> There is a Microphone and "Line in" jack on my desktop and a line out on
> the player (wasn't this kinda obvious?).
> 
>> > So, my questions are:
>> > 1: What causes this?
>> > 2: How might I rerecord the audio files so they play right on a
>> > computer without this problem without using the now broken tape
>> > deck?
>> 
>> It's just like normal recorder - set up input output level and record.
>> If your mixer or pulseaudio are not set up properly you could have
>> issues with the volume. I would check both. There are also cases where
>> the settings for specific audio chips are broken or misaligned - it
>> might also need attention. Just post the specs of your audio card and
>> setup and there will be perhaps someone with the same who could compare
>> and share
>> 
>> regards
> I thought of that, but I'm not certain how to tell the computer whether
> to record what the computer is playing (don't want), vs. telling it to
> record from the Mic/line in.

You can do this in the mixer with the switch settings - I think probably
pulse audio or the mixer of your distro.

regards

Re: Application web GNU

[Christophe De Natale]

Le 29/06/2016 à 22:17, Dominique Asselineau a écrit :

Christophe De Natale wrote on Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 02:50:48PM +0200

Le 29/06/2016 à 13:03, Alex PADOLY a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Je dois faire effectuer un inventaire des pièces contenues dans une
réserve et j'aimerai informatiser

la gestion de cette réserve, je recherche donc une application web
disposant d'un moteur de recherche libre.

Ainsi il sera possible de n'importe quel lieu de savoir si telle ou telle
pièces fait partie de la réserve.

Merci pour vos idées.

Alex PADOLY


Bonjour,


(entre autres idées sûrement) Louer un hébergement sur Online.net (ou autre)

Perso, j'aime bien autre et j'en fait aussi la pub...

Dominique

Oui, désolé, ce n'était pas de la pub, juste un exemple.
Je ne connais pas les autres solutions.

Christophe



et déployer "Dolibarr" ?


Christophe

Gestion présence

[Eric Bernard]

Bonjour,
Je recherche une solution, avec code barre et douchette (utilisation de 
la carte cantine), pour gérer la présence d'élèves dans des lieux 
spécifiques (amphithéâtre, CDI, etc...) Des lieux ou il peut avoir 
plusieurs classes en même temps. Actuellement, c'est des listes papiers 
que l'élève signe... bonjour la perte de temps 


J'ai commencé sur tableur mais cela devient vide compliqué (lieux, 
classes présentes, horaires, etc)


Merci de vos pistes !!!

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Re: ThinkPad fan

[Francesco Montanari]

On 06/30/2016 03:13 AM, Gener Badenas wrote:
> 
> Is it just hardware issue or do you think the OS play some role on
> heating issue?  Can using a different OS make temp better?
> One more suggestion is to polish the surface well before attaching the
> heatsink.
>  
>

It was mainly a hardware problem. Cleaning the fan and especially
replacing the thermal grease helped to reduce the max temp from 96C to
less than 80C.

Enabling the package 'thinkfan' with default configuration also helps
reducing further ~5C, and to slow down the rise in temperature when
above 60C.

Regards,
Francesco

Re: Wireless install met een b43 wifi

[Eric]

On 06/29/2016 11:45 PM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Op 29-06-16 om 17:54 schreef Frans van Berckel:


Oops. Met # busybox help, zie je alle commando's. Als cp erbij staat
moet het met # ln -s /bin/busybox cp lukken. Dan kan je cp gebruiken.


Je moet volgens mij niet "busybox help" doen, maar gewoon "help".

Daar had ik gekeken en geen "cp" gezien. Echter: cp is er wel en doet
het ook. Als je alleen "cp" geeft dan krijg je een fout van busybox, en
/bin/cp verwijst naar busybox. Vreemd dat busybox toch blijkbaar
commando's bevat die de help niet geeft.

"mount" doet het ook.
Het lijkt erop dat de link bestaat, maar het commando niet in busybox is 
geïmplementeerd.

Werkt

# cat /hier/foo > /daar/foo

?

Eric Meijer