date:20161128


On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Michael Biebl wrote:


Am 28.11.2016 um 19:35 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel:

 It seems that one must not be too curious, as each time you dig too
 deep, you find some kind of mystery.


On the contrary, I think this is what makes Linux great. There might be
things which are a mystery to you at first, but you are allowed to look
behind the curtain.

It's certainly one reason why I love Linux. I can take it apart and go
as deep as I want.


  I don't disagree. When you go deeper and are lost, you often find
  some people which can explain what seems a mystery to you, but you
  must be prepared to spend some time
  For example, how do you explain the presence in syslog of 12 times
  the same 12 lines?

cheers,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: Clé usb wifi

Le double bande wifi, c'est pas si récent que ça, ça date depuis plus d'un
an. LOL !


Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:29, Christophe Leloup 
a écrit :

> Sur une debain c'est dur d'avoir du matériel réçent. sinon prend toi un
> truc plus simple.
>
> un repeteur wifi avec prise ethernet.
>
> Le repeteur wifi fait office de recepteur et ton pc ne voit que tu veut
> car c'est de l'ethernet.
> C'est faisable aussi avec les routeurs opensourceS.
>
>Cordialement.
>
> Christophe Leloup
>
> Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:26, David Martin  a
> écrit :
>
>> Ok, mais le truc c'est que les specs sont pas du tout les mêmes.
>> J'aimerai avoir du 5Ghz pour faire du double bande... comme le fait ma T2U
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:24, Christophe Leloup <
>> leloup.christo...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> La derniere fois aucun soucis.
>>> Sinon prend du chipset realtek c'est tres bon
>>>
>>>Cordialement.
>>>
>>> Christophe Leloup
>>>
>>> Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:21, David Martin  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Salut,

 Vous parlez de celle-ci ?
 TL-WN722N
 Impec sous jessie ?


 Le 28 novembre 2016 à 17:10, Christophe Leloup <
 leloup.christo...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Je confirme
>
> Le 26 nov. 2016 11:55, "contact" 
> a écrit :
>
>> la TPLINK TL-WN722N fonctionne aussi très bien
>> *François-Marie BILLARD*
>> Sculpteur - Céramiste 
>> Le 25/11/2016 à 14:12, David Martin a écrit :
>>
>> ah ok c'est un mini pc...
>> Je doute que ça passe, ce n'est pas la même clé ... du coup le chip
>> non plus.
>> Je gratterai ce soir.
>>
>>
>> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:08, Maxime Flasquin <
>> maxime.flasq...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> On 25/11/2016 14:05, David Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Merci,
>>> je ne connais pas raspbian, c'est quoi  ?
>>>
>>>
>>> J'ai oublié de précisé qu'il me faudrait une double bande
>>>
>>> J'ai une TPLink T2U qui fonctionne bien sous windows 7, mais
>>> impossible de la faire tourner sous Jessie, j'ai recompilé et recompilé 
>>> le
>>> drivers, rien n'y fait... impossible de se connecter... je choppe le
>>> signal... le ssid, j'ai tout essayé... keudale.
>>>
>>> Je vais donc acheter une nouvelle clé, mais quoi...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:01, Maxime Flasquin <
>>> maxime.flasq...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
 On 25/11/2016 13:53, David Martin wrote:

 Bonjour,

 Je cherche une clé usb wifi qui serait 100% compatible Jessie

 Pourriez-vous me conseiller une marque en particulier ?

 --
 david martin

 Bonjour,

 J'ai justement installé hier soir cette clé usb wifi : tl-wn823n

 Je l'ai installée sur raspbian jessie. J'ai eu à installer le bon
 driver en suivant cette solution http://raspberrypi.stackexchan
 ge.com/questions/54716/raspberry-1-no-wifi-dongle-detected-t
 p-link-tl-wn823n

 Maxime Flasquin

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> david martin
>>>
>>> Raspbian est une version de Debian spécialement compilée pour le
>>> raspberrypi. Tu peux sans doute essayer la solution que j'ai envoyé dans
>>> mon précédent mail, ça a fonctionné pour moi et il s'agit également 
>>> d'une
>>> clé TP Link
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> david martin
>>
>>
>>


 --
 david martin


>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> david martin
>>
>>
>


-- 
david martin

Re: Off-topic sobre libreboot i espionatge (era: Re: Connexió paral.lel vs. USB)

2016-11-28 Thread Narcis Garcia

Aquests de la OpenPOWER Foundation tenen la colecta molt crua, encara
que estiguin patrocinats per Google.
De fet, tots els ordinadors serien molt més cars si la seva fabricació
fos coherent amb múltiples aspectes ètics, passant pel mineral, pel
comercial, laboral, mediambiental, etc.

Ja que estem en tema, afegeixo el comentari de què M.Thunderbird i
M.Firefox, de forma predeterminada envien contingut de les cartes que
llegim i les pàgines que visitem, per tal de retornar un avís de si són
*fraudulentes* o no.
GNU Icecat és un derivat força recomanable en aquest tema.
https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/


__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.
El 28/11/16 a les 22:36, Xavi Drudis Ferran ha escrit:
> El Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:51:06PM +0100, Orestes Mas deia:
>> On 20/11/16 21:30, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote:
>>> El Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:05:56PM +0100, ilion1250 deia:
 Estic en procès de canviar d'ordinador i em trobo amb alguns problemes (a
 part de la poca oferta d'ordinadors que no portin cap sistema operatiu), es
>>> Sí, i en tot cas n'hi ha un munt que porten un sistema operatiu amb
>>> servidor web, etc. per al control remot per sota del sistema operatiu
>>> i que no pots substituir. :(
>>>
>>>
>>> https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel
>>>
>> Això d'Intel/AMD és una solemne merda ben grossa. Vull dir: tots som més o
>> menys conscients que ens espien i monitoritzen constantment, però llegir-ho
>> negre sobre blanc és força impactant.
>>
>> Ho sento. Quan ho he llegit, m'he hagut d'esbravar.
>>
>> Orestes.
>>
> 
> Bé, per a qui s'ho pugui permetre (l'opció més cara és un ordinador
> complet per 22450 USD, i encara amb alguna funcionalitat que necessiti
> blobs, crec, per a accelerar video), hi ha ofertes en "micro"mecenatge de
> sistemes millors.  No tinc clara la viabilitat comercial, vist l'estat
> de la campanya, però el maquinari sembla maco.
> 
> https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation
> 
> És rellevant el missatge 10 (Update 10) . 
> 
> https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation/updates/a-word-on-lockdown
> 
>

Re: Clé usb wifi

Sur une debain c'est dur d'avoir du matériel réçent. sinon prend toi un
truc plus simple.

un repeteur wifi avec prise ethernet.

Le repeteur wifi fait office de recepteur et ton pc ne voit que tu veut car
c'est de l'ethernet.
C'est faisable aussi avec les routeurs opensourceS.

   Cordialement.

Christophe Leloup

Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:26, David Martin  a écrit :

> Ok, mais le truc c'est que les specs sont pas du tout les mêmes.
> J'aimerai avoir du 5Ghz pour faire du double bande... comme le fait ma T2U
>
>
>
> Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:24, Christophe Leloup <
> leloup.christo...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> La derniere fois aucun soucis.
>> Sinon prend du chipset realtek c'est tres bon
>>
>>Cordialement.
>>
>> Christophe Leloup
>>
>> Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:21, David Martin  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Salut,
>>>
>>> Vous parlez de celle-ci ?
>>> TL-WN722N
>>> Impec sous jessie ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 28 novembre 2016 à 17:10, Christophe Leloup <
>>> leloup.christo...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
 Je confirme

 Le 26 nov. 2016 11:55, "contact"  a
 écrit :

> la TPLINK TL-WN722N fonctionne aussi très bien
> *François-Marie BILLARD*
> Sculpteur - Céramiste 
> Le 25/11/2016 à 14:12, David Martin a écrit :
>
> ah ok c'est un mini pc...
> Je doute que ça passe, ce n'est pas la même clé ... du coup le chip
> non plus.
> Je gratterai ce soir.
>
>
> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:08, Maxime Flasquin <
> maxime.flasq...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> On 25/11/2016 14:05, David Martin wrote:
>>
>> Merci,
>> je ne connais pas raspbian, c'est quoi  ?
>>
>>
>> J'ai oublié de précisé qu'il me faudrait une double bande
>>
>> J'ai une TPLink T2U qui fonctionne bien sous windows 7, mais
>> impossible de la faire tourner sous Jessie, j'ai recompilé et recompilé 
>> le
>> drivers, rien n'y fait... impossible de se connecter... je choppe le
>> signal... le ssid, j'ai tout essayé... keudale.
>>
>> Je vais donc acheter une nouvelle clé, mais quoi...
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:01, Maxime Flasquin <
>> maxime.flasq...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> On 25/11/2016 13:53, David Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> Je cherche une clé usb wifi qui serait 100% compatible Jessie
>>>
>>> Pourriez-vous me conseiller une marque en particulier ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> david martin
>>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> J'ai justement installé hier soir cette clé usb wifi : tl-wn823n
>>>
>>> Je l'ai installée sur raspbian jessie. J'ai eu à installer le bon
>>> driver en suivant cette solution http://raspberrypi.stackexchan
>>> ge.com/questions/54716/raspberry-1-no-wifi-dongle-detected-t
>>> p-link-tl-wn823n
>>>
>>> Maxime Flasquin
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> david martin
>>
>> Raspbian est une version de Debian spécialement compilée pour le
>> raspberrypi. Tu peux sans doute essayer la solution que j'ai envoyé dans
>> mon précédent mail, ça a fonctionné pour moi et il s'agit également d'une
>> clé TP Link
>>
>
>
>
> --
> david martin
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> david martin
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> david martin
>
>

Re: Clé usb wifi

Ok, mais le truc c'est que les specs sont pas du tout les mêmes.
J'aimerai avoir du 5Ghz pour faire du double bande... comme le fait ma T2U



Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:24, Christophe Leloup 
a écrit :

> La derniere fois aucun soucis.
> Sinon prend du chipset realtek c'est tres bon
>
>Cordialement.
>
> Christophe Leloup
>
> Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:21, David Martin  a
> écrit :
>
>> Salut,
>>
>> Vous parlez de celle-ci ?
>> TL-WN722N
>> Impec sous jessie ?
>>
>>
>> Le 28 novembre 2016 à 17:10, Christophe Leloup <
>> leloup.christo...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Je confirme
>>>
>>> Le 26 nov. 2016 11:55, "contact"  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 la TPLINK TL-WN722N fonctionne aussi très bien
 *François-Marie BILLARD*
 Sculpteur - Céramiste 
 Le 25/11/2016 à 14:12, David Martin a écrit :

 ah ok c'est un mini pc...
 Je doute que ça passe, ce n'est pas la même clé ... du coup le chip non
 plus.
 Je gratterai ce soir.


 Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:08, Maxime Flasquin  a écrit :

> On 25/11/2016 14:05, David Martin wrote:
>
> Merci,
> je ne connais pas raspbian, c'est quoi  ?
>
>
> J'ai oublié de précisé qu'il me faudrait une double bande
>
> J'ai une TPLink T2U qui fonctionne bien sous windows 7, mais
> impossible de la faire tourner sous Jessie, j'ai recompilé et recompilé le
> drivers, rien n'y fait... impossible de se connecter... je choppe le
> signal... le ssid, j'ai tout essayé... keudale.
>
> Je vais donc acheter une nouvelle clé, mais quoi...
>
>
>
> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:01, Maxime Flasquin <
> maxime.flasq...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> On 25/11/2016 13:53, David Martin wrote:
>>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Je cherche une clé usb wifi qui serait 100% compatible Jessie
>>
>> Pourriez-vous me conseiller une marque en particulier ?
>>
>> --
>> david martin
>>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> J'ai justement installé hier soir cette clé usb wifi : tl-wn823n
>>
>> Je l'ai installée sur raspbian jessie. J'ai eu à installer le bon
>> driver en suivant cette solution http://raspberrypi.stackexchan
>> ge.com/questions/54716/raspberry-1-no-wifi-dongle-detected-t
>> p-link-tl-wn823n
>>
>> Maxime Flasquin
>>
>
>
>
> --
> david martin
>
> Raspbian est une version de Debian spécialement compilée pour le
> raspberrypi. Tu peux sans doute essayer la solution que j'ai envoyé dans
> mon précédent mail, ça a fonctionné pour moi et il s'agit également d'une
> clé TP Link
>



 --
 david martin



>>
>>
>> --
>> david martin
>>
>>
>


-- 
david martin

Re: Clé usb wifi

La derniere fois aucun soucis.
Sinon prend du chipset realtek c'est tres bon

   Cordialement.

Christophe Leloup

Le 29 novembre 2016 à 08:21, David Martin  a écrit :

> Salut,
>
> Vous parlez de celle-ci ?
> TL-WN722N
> Impec sous jessie ?
>
>
> Le 28 novembre 2016 à 17:10, Christophe Leloup <
> leloup.christo...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Je confirme
>>
>> Le 26 nov. 2016 11:55, "contact"  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> la TPLINK TL-WN722N fonctionne aussi très bien
>>> *François-Marie BILLARD*
>>> Sculpteur - Céramiste 
>>> Le 25/11/2016 à 14:12, David Martin a écrit :
>>>
>>> ah ok c'est un mini pc...
>>> Je doute que ça passe, ce n'est pas la même clé ... du coup le chip non
>>> plus.
>>> Je gratterai ce soir.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:08, Maxime Flasquin 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 On 25/11/2016 14:05, David Martin wrote:

 Merci,
 je ne connais pas raspbian, c'est quoi  ?

 J'ai oublié de précisé qu'il me faudrait une double bande

 J'ai une TPLink T2U qui fonctionne bien sous windows 7, mais impossible
 de la faire tourner sous Jessie, j'ai recompilé et recompilé le drivers,
 rien n'y fait... impossible de se connecter... je choppe le signal... le
 ssid, j'ai tout essayé... keudale.

 Je vais donc acheter une nouvelle clé, mais quoi...

 Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:01, Maxime Flasquin  a écrit :

> On 25/11/2016 13:53, David Martin wrote:
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Je cherche une clé usb wifi qui serait 100% compatible Jessie
>
> Pourriez-vous me conseiller une marque en particulier ?
>
> --
> david martin
>
> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai justement installé hier soir cette clé usb wifi : tl-wn823n
>
> Je l'ai installée sur raspbian jessie. J'ai eu à installer le bon
> driver en suivant cette solution http://raspberrypi.stackexchan
> ge.com/questions/54716/raspberry-1-no-wifi-dongle-detected-t
> p-link-tl-wn823n
>
> Maxime Flasquin
>

 --
 david martin

 Raspbian est une version de Debian spécialement compilée pour le
 raspberrypi. Tu peux sans doute essayer la solution que j'ai envoyé dans
 mon précédent mail, ça a fonctionné pour moi et il s'agit également d'une
 clé TP Link

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> david martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> david martin
>
>

Re: Clé usb wifi

2016-11-28 Thread Departamento Comercial - Cocinas Gianfer

Salut,

Vous parlez de celle-ci ?
TL-WN722N
Impec sous jessie ?


Le 28 novembre 2016 à 17:10, Christophe Leloup 
a écrit :

> Je confirme
>
> Le 26 nov. 2016 11:55, "contact"  a
> écrit :
>
>> la TPLINK TL-WN722N fonctionne aussi très bien
>> *François-Marie BILLARD*
>> Sculpteur - Céramiste 
>> Le 25/11/2016 à 14:12, David Martin a écrit :
>>
>> ah ok c'est un mini pc...
>> Je doute que ça passe, ce n'est pas la même clé ... du coup le chip non
>> plus.
>> Je gratterai ce soir.
>>
>>
>> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:08, Maxime Flasquin 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> On 25/11/2016 14:05, David Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Merci,
>>> je ne connais pas raspbian, c'est quoi  ?
>>>
>>>
>>> J'ai oublié de précisé qu'il me faudrait une double bande
>>>
>>> J'ai une TPLink T2U qui fonctionne bien sous windows 7, mais impossible
>>> de la faire tourner sous Jessie, j'ai recompilé et recompilé le drivers,
>>> rien n'y fait... impossible de se connecter... je choppe le signal... le
>>> ssid, j'ai tout essayé... keudale.
>>>
>>> Je vais donc acheter une nouvelle clé, mais quoi...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:01, Maxime Flasquin 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 On 25/11/2016 13:53, David Martin wrote:

 Bonjour,

 Je cherche une clé usb wifi qui serait 100% compatible Jessie

 Pourriez-vous me conseiller une marque en particulier ?

 --
 david martin

 Bonjour,

 J'ai justement installé hier soir cette clé usb wifi : tl-wn823n

 Je l'ai installée sur raspbian jessie. J'ai eu à installer le bon
 driver en suivant cette solution http://raspberrypi.stackexchan
 ge.com/questions/54716/raspberry-1-no-wifi-dongle-detected-t
 p-link-tl-wn823n

 Maxime Flasquin

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> david martin
>>>
>>> Raspbian est une version de Debian spécialement compilée pour le
>>> raspberrypi. Tu peux sans doute essayer la solution que j'ai envoyé dans
>>> mon précédent mail, ça a fonctionné pour moi et il s'agit également d'une
>>> clé TP Link
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> david martin
>>
>>
>>


-- 
david martin

Re: fichiers bizarres sur la racine du système de fichiers

2016-11-28 Thread BM


Bonjour,

Le problème est en voie de résolution: il s'agit d'un bug dans les 
scripts de démarrage des serveurs IAAS chez Gandi.

Merci pour vos suggestions.
Cordialement,
Bernard

Re: WHY does Debootstrap wiki page point Users to Ubuntu?

2016-11-28 Thread kushal

Cindy-Sue Causey  writes:

> Hi, All :)
>
> Please forgive me if I have simply missed the memo where we bought
> Ubuntu or Ubuntu bought Debian to where this is an appropriate move.
>
> So what had had happened was... I've been attempting to debootstrap
> DEBIAN Stretch for a few weeks now. It's been failing MISERABLY. This
> is the first time it has been like this in the couple years I've been
> debootstrap'ing Debian.
>
> #1 is chroot becomes a user called "I have no name!" instead of root.
>
> #2 is apt-get fails, says it doesn't exist at all, so nothing else is
> possible re growing the new setup. I a-sume that may be a secondary
> issue that would clear up when user "I have no name!" gets over
> his/her identity crisis.
>

Did the debootstrap invocation produce any errors?  A pointer to full
output would be useful.  Inability to map uid 0 to a username could
indicate a problem with /etc/nsswitch.conf or /etc/passwd.  Do you have
these files inside the chroot?

Missing apt-get also seems to indicate that the debootstrap did not go
well.  Do you have sufficient disk space, etc.?

> 

--
regards,
kushal

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-28 Thread Dave Thayer

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:26:47AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I went to https://packages.debian.org/stable/ looking for test utilities.
> The closest heading I found was "Utilities"
> [https://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/].
> The only relevant entry I found there was "memtester (4.3.0-3)".
> I did not find "memtest86+" which I've used many times [It was listed under
> "Similar packages:" on https://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/memtester].
> I found nothing for testing hard disks or video subsystems  monitor resolution tests>.

p.d.o has a pretty good search function, this should point you in the 
right direction: 

hth

dt

-- 
Dave Thayer / Denver, Colorado USA / d...@thayer-boyle.com 
 Whenever you read a good book, it's like the author is right there, in
 the room talking to you, which is why I don't like to read good books.
 - Jack Handey "Deep Thoughts"

Re: mdadm - two questions

2016-11-28 Thread Kamil Jońca

kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:

[...]> 2. there is md0 (raid1) with two disk in it. It is PV for lvm.
> I want to extend space by adding  another two disks. Is it possible somehow
> extent md0? Or the only way is to create second md device, and assign it
> to volume group?

My first plan was somehow migrate to RAID10. I thought that is simply
"raid0 over some raid1 arrays" so it should be legal to use 2*1TB +
2*1GB devices and then extend 2*1G => 2*1TB. But it not work that
way. All devices in linux mdadm raid10 array must be the same, or I'm
missing something.
So simplest way in my case is to make second device and assign it as PV
to VG.

KJ

-- 
http://wolnelektury.pl/wesprzyj/teraz/
You will have good luck and overcome many hardships.

Re: Alt + tecla morta

2016-11-28 Thread Ernest Adrogué

2016-11-28, 20:20 (+0100); Moises escriu:
> Considera xmodmap
> 
> Per exemple, jo tinc configurat la tecla "^" perquè deixi de ser morta (em
> surti directament "^" i "`") mentre que amb ALT em faci "["
> 
> keycode  34 = asciicircum grave asciicircum grave bracketleft braceleft
> bracketleft braceleft
> 
> Pots trobar els nrs de les tecles amb xev

Ho volia fer sense que deixi de ser una tecla morta, si no a l'hora
d'escriure accents és un problema.

De totes maneres és un problema del terminal, l'emacs X11 la combinació
Alt + Shift + `` la interpreta com Alt ^, que és correcte, en canvi en
un emulador de terminal la mateixa combinació no fa cap efecte, és com
no prémer cap tecla.

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Re: Cloner un disque

2016-11-28 Thread hamster


Le 28/11/2016 15:26, David Martin a écrit :

Bonjour,

Qu'utilisez vous pour faire un clonage de votre Linux sur un nouveau disque
ou un windows 7 par exemple ?


Pour cloner un windows : dd
si nécessaire réduire la partoche avant de cloner avec jkdefrag puis 
gparded.


Pour cloner un linux : betement cp -a
ca marche tres bien. Il faut soit redonner les bons UUID aux nouvelles 
partoches avec tune2fs soit editer /etc/fstab pour y mettre les UUID des 
nouvelles partoches. Pour grub on peut editer ses fichiers de conf pour 
mettre les nouveaux UUID ou le reinsaller avec grub-install et 
grub-update dans un chroot.

Re: forcefsck inconsistency

2016-11-28 Thread Michael Biebl

Am 28.11.2016 um 19:35 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel:
>  It seems that one must not be too curious, as each time you dig too
>  deep, you find some kind of mystery.

On the contrary, I think this is what makes Linux great. There might be
things which are a mystery to you at first, but you are allowed to look
behind the curtain.

It's certainly one reason why I love Linux. I can take it apart and go
as deep as I want.

Michael
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Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-28 Thread Brian

On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:44:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my
> Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space, now I want to
> remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more but am not sure
> what of them I may delete without perturbing the system.  How can I know?  
> More
> in general, is there a way to know what packages one is not using and so can 
> be
> removed?

apt-get purge gnome gnome-shell
apt-get autoremove

And go from there with 'dpkg -l'.

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Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-28 Thread Liam O'Toole

On 2016-11-28, Rodolfo Medina  wrote:
> Hi all Debian users.
>
> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as
> my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space, now I
> want to remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more
> but am not sure what of them I may delete without perturbing the
> system.  How can I know?  More in general, is there a way to know what
> packages one is not using and so can be removed?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Rodolfo
>
>

See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and
unneeded) packages from your system.

-- 

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Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-28 Thread Joe

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:44:00 +
Rodolfo Medina  wrote:

> Hi all Debian users.
> 
> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome
> as my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space,
> now I want to remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any
> more but am not sure what of them I may delete without perturbing the
> system.  How can I know?  More in general, is there a way to know
> what packages one is not using and so can be removed?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 

Sure if I was going there, I wouldn't be after starting from here...

First, Openbox is a window manager and doesn't have much in the way of
bells and whistles. Is that really all you want? If not, there is at
least one light(ish)-weight desktop environment which uses Openbox,
which is Xfce. There may be others, I haven't felt the need to look
around recently.

As for removing Gnome, tricky. I use some Gnome applications, but
without the full DE being present, so I have some libraries installed.

If I had to try this, I'd look through the dependencies of the 'gnome'
metapackage, make a note of anything I used, to later reinstall, then
remove the metapackage and anything it wants to take with it. I'd run
deborphan, or in fact I'd run upgrade-system which I normally use to
maintain my system, which recursively runs deborphan and will remove
anything you haven't explicitly asked for.

At that point, then one might like to think that the only gnome
components left are those which you've explicitly installed, and their
dependencies. Certainly the applications you don't use should be gone.

Something that may still be there that has a fair number of
dependencies is gdm3, the display manager. You almost certainly do want
a display manager, unless you're happy to boot into a text shell and
use startx to get a graphic display. A lightweight display manager is
xdm, though I find that a bit too Spartan, and I use kdm. That has a
fair number of dependencies as well, but I want many of those for a few
KDE applications I use, so it's not a problem.

Hopefully, there may be other suggestions to help reach your goal..

-- 
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Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-28 Thread Rodolfo Medina

Hi all Debian users.

When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my
Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space, now I want to
remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more but am not sure
what of them I may delete without perturbing the system.  How can I know?  More
in general, is there a way to know what packages one is not using and so can be
removed?

Thanks for any help,

Rodolfo

Re: How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-28 Thread Russell Gadd


On 28/11/16 12:30, Richard Hector wrote:

...


nas doesn't recognise login as authorised user

Turns out this was the issue - problem solved.For some reason the 
interactive successful use of ssh must have used my non-root users key 
even when run by (su) root in a graphical terminal. I needed to send a 
root public key to the NAS to get it to accept the connection when run 
from the daemon. /root/.ssh/authorized_keys in the NAS (running some 
version of Linux) only had the normal user public key.


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Re: ls -l / question in jessie

2016-11-28 Thread Brian

On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 11:40:55 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:10:04AM -0800, emetib wrote:
> > why do the sym links in ls -l / point to /boot/ and boot/
> > 
> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root31 Jun  3 10:34 initrd.img -> 
> > /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root27 Jun  3 10:34 vmlinuz -> 
> > boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
> > 
> > is this just a fluke in the way that the two of them were made?
> 
> Yes.  As long as you don't do anything fancy like mounting your root file
> system somewhere other than root (e.g. after booting from rescue media)
> and then trying to use those symlinks.  Which shouldn't be used by
> anything anyway, except LILO, and you probably shouldn't be using LILO.

I use the symlinks with GRUB. If you give a really, really good reason
I'll stop doing it.

-- 
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Re: WHY does Debootstrap wiki page point Users to Ubuntu?

2016-11-28 Thread Brian

On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 15:18:31 -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:

> On 11/28/16, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > On Monday 28 November 2016 12:54:08 Henning Follmann wrote:
> >> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 06:43:54PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> >> > Hi, All :)
> >> >
> >> > Please forgive me if I have simply missed the memo where we bought
> >> > Ubuntu or Ubuntu bought Debian to where this is an appropriate move.
> >> >
> >> > So what had had happened was... I've been attempting to debootstrap
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> No error message, no description what you did..
> >>
> >> > https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
> >> >
> >> > Toward the bottom of the page there...
> >>
> >> Is *ONE* example how to install ubuntu via dbebootstrap. And ubuntu is a
> >> debian based distribution, why in fact debbootstrap works.
> >> The rest of the page however is about debian.
> >>
> >> I think you are overreacting a bit.
> >
> > I think you are obviously an Ubuntu supporter or fan.  I'm with Cindy.  It
> > is
> > creeping insidiously.
> 
> Thank you, Lisi. I don't think I'm overreacting at all.

You are. You are being silly.
 
> This thread was generated... with the primary focus being the subject
> line. This is about a Debian user discovering that a Debian project
> wiki installation webpage has a how-to tip for installing a
> competitive non-Debian named operating system.

If you feel so strongly - delete or alter the reference, with an
explanation. The explanation would have to be shorter than the following
text (which I have snipped).

-- 
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Re: WHY does Debootstrap wiki page point Users to Ubuntu?

2016-11-28 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey

On 11/28/16, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Monday 28 November 2016 12:54:08 Henning Follmann wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 06:43:54PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
>> > Hi, All :)
>> >
>> > Please forgive me if I have simply missed the memo where we bought
>> > Ubuntu or Ubuntu bought Debian to where this is an appropriate move.
>> >
>> > So what had had happened was... I've been attempting to debootstrap
>>
>> [...]
>> No error message, no description what you did..
>>
>> > https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
>> >
>> > Toward the bottom of the page there...
>>
>> Is *ONE* example how to install ubuntu via dbebootstrap. And ubuntu is a
>> debian based distribution, why in fact debbootstrap works.
>> The rest of the page however is about debian.
>>
>> I think you are overreacting a bit.
>
> I think you are obviously an Ubuntu supporter or fan.  I'm with Cindy.  It
> is
> creeping insidiously.

Thank you, Lisi. I don't think I'm overreacting at all.

This thread was generated... with the primary focus being the subject
line. This is about a Debian user discovering that a Debian project
wiki installation webpage has a how-to tip for installing a
competitive non-Debian named operating system.

Yes, I understand that the Debian Wiki is *our* user wiki (that
appears) editable by all. Under those circumstances, opinions and
personal passions do play their part in the placement of tips and
advice found within.

If placement of that particular how-to tip in question was an
executive decision made collectively by Debian Developers, then so be
it. In that case and again, it wasn't just a snark when I originally
said I obviously just missed the related memo.

If placement of that particular tip was a proud, unified Developer
decision based on mutually gratifying, open, interactive,
backscratching, cross platform operating system development activities
with that other distro, what a wonderful World this has become. If it
is such, this user would abide by that decision by proceeding with all
future personal Debian usage decisions based accordingly.

As to the previous reply that no error message was given in my
original post, I did in fact include exactly what occurred. Upon
pursuit of the completion of a debootstrap installation via terminal
command line interface steps that have been previously, repeatedly
successful, chroot presents a user called. "I have no name!".
Period.

When I chose to proceed with this latest installation attempt under "I
have no name!"'s identity, two commands later apt-get subsequently is
reported as not found. With administrative permissions/rights in mind,
it's a no-brainer that the secondary apt-get not found issue will most
likely be corrected by unearthing what recent Debian upgrade change(s)
caused chroot's user "root" to suddenly lose his/her name identity.

For anyone who's never been there and might wonder, no, it's not
possible to attempt sudo just this second. I just did. I first thought
to add a new user, and that failed because "I have no name!" can't
open /etc/passwd. It's a logical evolution in errors.

Starting to feel like I'm in an Abbott and Costello Who's on First
comedy film parody. I next attempted sudo and su for user "I have no
name!". Su responded back:

"su: Cannot determine your user name."

The error portion that evolved into this thread did not just happen on
one setup. I'm currently working from within a secondary one that is
different enough to form some kind of conclusion in that respect. No,
not scientific, but factors such as upgrades have been being performed
at least somewhat differently enough to feel it's more potentially a
singular package (upgrade?) problem.

But all that said, this really isn't about the errors at all. As has
been my methodology for many years, I'm addressing those glitches
privately as just the latest in my programming self-education. It is
my opinion that the errors I experienced remain notable with respect
to all else because those errors prevent the installation of a new
Debian setup right from the very start.

Specifically about this thread: My mention of the fact that a very
basic install method for Debian was suddenly uninstallable after
several years of NO problems was to impart that message in tandem with
the fact that.

When one then *logically* visits the associated DEBIAN Debootstrap
wiki page for hints on correcting show stopping, unordinary
installation errors, *one then finds* the ailing installation
package's wiki page offers a how-to tip on installing a competitive,
non-Debian named distribution.

Lisi's "creeping insidiously" observation is why I also bumped that
other thread, "Stretch Alpha 8 netinst fails" [1]. Here we go again
where installation of Debian is failing albeit via a different install
route this time.

Installation issues overall are not a new topic with the "Stretch
Alpha 8" thread's on-list exchange being unfortunately brief. That
brief conversation ended with a

Re: [HS] Géolocalisation et déontologie :

2016-11-28 Thread Ph. Gras

Bonsoir,

et merci pour vos retours.

J'ai essayé 3 options et aucune n'est complètement satisfaisante en solo :

La géolocalisation avec l'objet navigator de javascript dépend beaucoup
du comportement de chaque navigateur. Celui de Safari par exemple est
très perturbant pour le client, il l'a été pour moi. La précision n'est pas très
bonne (une trentaine de kilomètres), mais c'est suffisant pour moi.

J'ai utilisé une base de données qui permet 10.000 requêtes par jour, elle
a généré le même comportement perturbant du navigateur quand je l'ai
interrogée en javascript. Alors j'ai fait une requête Ajax sur l'adresse IP, et
j'ai retourné les informations récupérées par le serveur au navigateur. Ça
a l'air de fonctionner, mais effectivement pas correctement sur les mobiles.

Je vais ajouter un bouton pour améliorer les latitude et longitude avec JS,
ce qui retardera le déclenchement des alertes du navigateur et le client se
démerdera avec ensuite.

Je ferai des tests demain sur d'autres machines fixes et mobiles.

Qu'en pensez-vous ?

Ph. Gras

Re: WHY does Debootstrap wiki page point Users to Ubuntu?

2016-11-28 Thread tomas

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> I think you are obviously an Ubuntu supporter or fan.  I'm with Cindy.  It is 
> creeping insidiously.

Please. Relax. It's not like Ubuntu was the enemy or something. Many a
Debian devel has been on Canonical payroll and has thus been enabled
to do good Debian work.

The aims are different, and there may be conflicts at times, but I'm
convinced that "we" Debianites are better off because of Ubuntu, not
worse off.

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Re: Installation impossible sur Acer Travelmate 2400

2016-11-28 Thread Samy Mezani


Bonjour,

Le 27/11/2016 à 20:03, didier gaumet a écrit :

A priori au moins certains Celeron M et Pentium M seraient compatible
PAE sans que cela apparaisse dans les flags du processeur. Cela pose

[...]

- forcer le PAE (en passant au noyau le paramètre --forcepae) au boot de
l'installateur et modifier la config grub une fois Debian installé pour
y inclure le paramètre --forcepae


J'ai tenté en vain de passer l'option forcepae. Toujours le même problème.

En essayant une Wheezy, comme me le suggérait François, l'installation 
démarre au quart de tour. D'après /proc/cpuinfo, je vois bien le flag 
'pae'. Donc c'est un autre problème.


Merci pour vos réponses, je vais regarder si je ne trouve pas une option 
à passer aux nouveaux noyaux 3.16 et supérieurs.


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Re: Alt + tecla morta

2016-11-28 Thread Moises

Considera xmodmap

Per exemple, jo tinc configurat la tecla "^" perquè deixi de ser morta (em
surti directament "^" i "`") mentre que amb ALT em faci "["

keycode  34 = asciicircum grave asciicircum grave bracketleft braceleft
bracketleft braceleft

Pots trobar els nrs de les tecles amb xev

Salut

El dia 22 de novembre de 2016, 10:15, Ernest Adrogué  ha
escrit:

> Hola,
>
> en el teclat espanyol:
>
> 2 cops accent obert `
> 2 cops accent tancat ´
>
> el mateix mantenint Shift premut: ^ i ¨
>
> en canvi mantenint la tecla Alt premuda no genera cap seqüència, ni amb
> Shift ni sense Shift.  En teoria en un terminal hauria de generar ESC +
> caràcter, com amb la resta de tecles.
>
> Algú sap si es pot configurar el teclat de tal manera que les tecles mortes
> funcionin amb Alt?
>
> Salutacions.
>
>

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

2016-11-28 Thread Teemu Likonen

Greg Wooledge [2016-11-28 12:43:44-05] wrote:

> $ apt-cache search linux-image-4.6

> $ apt-cache show linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64

> Dunno what to tell you. Maybe it's because I have the package
> installed? I don't know why that would affect apt-cache search/show.

You have kernel 4.6 installed. With "apt-cache policy" you can see where
package versions can be installed from.

apt-cache policy '^linux-image-4\.'

For kernel 4.6 you'll only this as the "source":

100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW FE

2016-11-28 Thread Ann Holman Hull

Take my email off your list. Thanks!

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:04 AM  wrote:

>
>
> **Dear_{jannhull}**
>
> You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk *Of Sex Offender*
> Activity
> In
> Your Aera.
>
> Here Is A Link To A Great Website Called Kids Live Safe.
>
>
> 
> The Website Show You All The Offenders That Live Nearby. You Can Do A Quick
> Search
> .
>
>
>
> It Only Takes A Few Seconds
>
> Not Only Can You See Who They Are And Where They Live, You Also Get Email
> Alerts When A
> *New Sex Offender*
> 
> Moves Close To Your Home.
>
> It Also Has A Brunch Of Tools To Help Keep Our Kids Safe.
>
> Search Your Neighborhood NOW
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ASZDEFGEFRGBHNFRGTBHNJFGHN
>
-- 
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Re: Some function keys not working on a ThinkPad W550s

2016-11-28 Thread Celejar

On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 23:27:46 -0200
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016, Celejar wrote:
> > applications and a few things from backports. I'm currently running
> > kernel 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 from backports.
> 
> Don't.  That kernel is very broken.  Switch to the latest 4.8 kernel
> available from either unstable or kernel.org, or compile the latest
> 4.4-longterm kernel from kernel.org.

Okay, I'm running 4.8.0.1-amd64 from unstable now. Fn-F1-F4 still don't
do anything.

> > Some of the function keys work (e.g., Fn-F5/F6 for brightness down/up),
> > but some do not (e.g., F1-F3 for volume control, and F4 for suspend
> > (suspend works fine out of the box via the Xfce suspend hooks)). Any
> > idea how to fix / troubleshoot this?
> 
> run xev, and check if you get X events.  If you do, you need to get xfce
> to handle these X events somehow (can't help you there).

I've done that, but I'll try some more and report back. I always have
trouble understanding and parsing xev output.

> If you don't see anything in xev, use the stuff in package input-utils
> to trace events in the thinkpad-acpi input device, and also on the main
> keyboard input device (lsinput, input-events).  That might help.
> 
> > I saw this:
> > 
> > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work
> 
> It is somewhat outdated for the newer Lenovo models and Linux kernels, I
> believe.
> 
> > But the details are really not explained well - what are these masks,
> > what do they mean, and where are they documented?
> 
> You should not need to mess with those.  They are either correct
> out-of-the-box, or you need a newer kernel anyway for other reasons.
> 
> FWIW, they are documented in Documentation/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.txt in
> the kernel source:
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.txt

Thanks for the help - when I composed my original message, I was hoping
you'd chime in ;)

Celejar

Re: forcefsck inconsistency


On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Michael Biebl wrote:


Oh, this is quite simple to explain.
If your file system is clean, fsck will simply do nothing.

The "Last checked" attribute is only reset, if fsck is actually run due to
1/ unclean file system
2/ forced fsck (fsck.mode=force on the kernel command line)
3/ max mount count or check interval reached.


 that's clear now, but was not really obvious: syslog tells when fsck is
 launched, and tune2fs when it did something. I checked that it's true
 not only for /, but for other partitions too.
 It seems that one must not be too curious, as each time you dig too
 deep, you find some kind of mystery. Last example: looking at syslog, I
 found some sequences repeated 10 to 12 times in 1 minute, like:

 Mounted /d2.
 Mounted /d5.
 Mounted /d3.
 Mounted /we.
 Mounted /data.
 Mounted /.
 Mounted /w.
or
Started File System Check on /dev/sda3.
Started File System Check on 
/dev/disk/by-uuid/70d8e3f7-010d-4a11-b265-5727509735ed.
Started File System Check on 
/dev/disk/by-uuid/60c4562b-9c8f-4e82-ae58-2db298bc0a43.
Starting File System Check on 
/dev/disk/by-uuid/9abca58e-191a-4894-98cf-a87e59569038...
Started File System Check on 
/dev/disk/by-uuid/9abca58e-191a-4894-98cf-a87e59569038.

best regards,
--
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Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW WM

2016-11-28 Thread Raven

I'm a child .

On November 28, 2016, at 9:03 AM, goldenwolf...@gmail.com wrote:



**Dear_{goldenwolf434}** 

You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk Of Sex Offender 
Activity In 
Your Aera. 

Here Is A Link To A Great Website Called Kids Live Safe. 

The Website Show You All The Offenders That Live Nearby. You Can Do A Quick 
Search. 


It Only Takes A Few Seconds 

Not Only Can You See Who They Are And Where They Live, You Also Get Email 
Alerts When A 
New Sex Offender Moves Close To Your Home. 

It Also Has A Brunch Of Tools To Help Keep Our Kids Safe. 

Search Your Neighborhood NOW

Re: Cloner un disque

2016-11-28 Thread Haricophile

Le Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:19:43 +0100,
"JC.EtiembleG"  a écrit :

> http://clonezilla.org/

Ça dépend un peu des conditions et de l'usage. 

- Un dd peut suffire pour un disque sain.
- Clonezilla est intéressant. 
- rsync et dérivés on l'avantage de pouvoir être fait en
  réseau et en fonctionnement et, surtout si c'est coupé ou si ça foire
  au milieu (USB, ethernet...), on peut reprendre sans tout
  retransférer. 
- Quand le disque est HS il vaut mieux ddrescue ou un truc prévu pour.
- Quand on a ZFS ou BTRFS il y a les snapshots ...

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Re: [HS] Géolocalisation et déontologie :

2016-11-28 Thread Yves Rutschle

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 03:37:49PM +0100, Ph. Gras wrote:
> Je pense donc me tourner vers le module de géolocalisation de NginX, qui est
> chargé avec le paquet Debian nginx-full :
> http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_geoip_module.html

Si je ne m'abuse, ça va se baser sur la localisation de
l'adresse IP, ce qui ne marche pas vraiment pour un
téléphone portable (qui se retrouve en NAT chez son
opérateur, du coup presque toujours à Paris).

Y.

Re: cyrus-imap-ssl crashing

2016-11-28 Thread Henning Follmann

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:59:38PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Henning Follmann  wrote:
> 
> > Sending is not an imap issue. So you might want look into the MTA (in your
> > case Postfix).
> 
> It can be if postfix uses cyrus as authentication source.
> 

Since he provided no useful information it could be anything. Maybe a
network plug not sitting proper in its socket.

However I want to see the log from postfix during failure. That would be
the start.

-H

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Re: cyrus-imap-ssl crashing

2016-11-28 Thread Sven Hartge

Henning Follmann  wrote:

> Sending is not an imap issue. So you might want look into the MTA (in your
> case Postfix).

It can be if postfix uses cyrus as authentication source.

S°

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Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 05:26:58PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> lisi@Eros:~$ aptitude search linux-image
> i   linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 - Linux 3.16 for 64-bit PCs
> p   linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64-dbg - Debugging symbols for Linux 
> 3.16.0-4-amd64
> p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64- Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs 
> (signed)
> p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-dbg- Debugging symbols for Linux 
> 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
> p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned   - Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs
> p   linux-image-4.7.0-1-grsec-amd64- Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs, 
> Grsecurity protection
> i   linux-image-amd64  - Linux for 64-bit PCs 
> (meta-package)
> p   linux-image-amd64-dbg  - Debugging symbols for Linux 
> amd64 configuration (met
> p   linux-image-grsec-amd64- Linux image meta-package, 
> grsec featureset
> lisi@Eros:~$
> 
> 
> Lisi

$ apt-cache search linux-image-4.6
linux-image-486 - Linux for older PCs (dummy package)
linux-headers-4.6.0-1-grsec-686-pae - Header files for Linux 
4.6.0-1-grsec-686-pae
linux-image-4.6.0-1-grsec-686-pae - Linux 4.6 for modern PCs, Grsecurity 
protection
linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 - Linux 4.6 for 64-bit PCs

$ apt-cache show linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
Package: linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: kernel
Installed-Size: 176653
Maintainer: Debian Kernel Team 
Architecture: amd64
Source: linux
Version: 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1
[...]

Dunno what to tell you.  Maybe it's because I have the package installed?
I don't know why that would affect apt-cache search/show.

Re: WHY does Debootstrap wiki page point Users to Ubuntu?

2016-11-28 Thread Curt

On 2016-11-28, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>>
>> I think you are overreacting a bit.
>
> I think you are obviously an Ubuntu supporter or fan.  I'm with Cindy.  It is 
> creeping insidiously.
>
> Lisi
>>

I thought the short example existed simply to illustrate the fact
that it is possible to install other distributions within Debian with
debootstrap (they might have chosen Linux Mint or Fedora, I guess, to
satisfy conspirationists such as yourself). The converse is equally
true. What is it that is creeping?  I'm not sure. Maybe it's terminology
drift since the wiki employs the term "operating system" where it seems
to mean distribution (I mean, Ubuntu and Debian rely on the same
underlying OS, do they not)?

-- 
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Franz Kafka

Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW wE

2016-11-28 Thread john westwood

Stop sending me these emails

On Nov 28, 2016 10:59 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> **Dear_{spot1158}**
>
> You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk *Of Sex Offender*
> Activity
> In
> Your Aera.
>
> Here Is A Link To A Great Website Called Kids Live Safe.
>
>
> 
> The Website Show You All The Offenders That Live Nearby. You Can Do A Quick
> Search
> .
>
>
>
> It Only Takes A Few Seconds
>
> Not Only Can You See Who They Are And Where They Live, You Also Get Email
> Alerts When A
> *New Sex Offender*
> 
> Moves Close To Your Home.
>
> It Also Has A Brunch Of Tools To Help Keep Our Kids Safe.
>
> Search Your Neighborhood NOW
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ASZDEFGEFRGBHNFRGTBHNJFGHN
>
>

Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW fG

2016-11-28 Thread Casey Hanneman

I'll fuck him up... if it's a girl I'll give her a call

On Nov 28, 2016 11:07 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> **Dear_{casey86camaro}**
>
> You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk *Of Sex Offender*
> Activity
> In
> Your Aera.
>
> Here Is A Link To A Great Website Called Kids Live Safe.
>
>
> 
> The Website Show You All The Offenders That Live Nearby. You Can Do A Quick
> Search
> .
>
>
>
> It Only Takes A Few Seconds
>
> Not Only Can You See Who They Are And Where They Live, You Also Get Email
> Alerts When A
> *New Sex Offender*
> 
> Moves Close To Your Home.
>
> It Also Has A Brunch Of Tools To Help Keep Our Kids Safe.
>
> Search Your Neighborhood NOW
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ASZDEFGEFRGBHNFRGTBHNJFGHN
>
>

Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW YW

2016-11-28 Thread myles doody

Fuck off weirdo
On 28 Nov 2016 16:55,  wrote:

>
>
> **Dear_{Myles}**
>
> You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk *Of Sex Offender*
> Activity
> In
> Your Aera.
>
> Here Is A Link To A Great Website Called Kids Live Safe.
>
>
> 
> The Website Show You All The Offenders That Live Nearby. You Can Do A Quick
> Search
> .
>
>
>
> It Only Takes A Few Seconds
>
> Not Only Can You See Who They Are And Where They Live, You Also Get Email
> Alerts When A
> *New Sex Offender*
> 
> Moves Close To Your Home.
>
> It Also Has A Brunch Of Tools To Help Keep Our Kids Safe.
>
> Search Your Neighborhood NOW
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ASZDEFGEFRGBHNFRGTBHNJFGHN
>
>

Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW U7

2016-11-28 Thread Lori Parker

Never contact this email again

On Nov 28, 2016 12:03 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> **Dear_{lori}**
>
> You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk *Of Sex Offender*
> Activity
> In
> Your Aera.
>
> Here Is A Link To A Great Website Called Kids Live Safe.
>
>
> 
> The Website Show You All The Offenders That Live Nearby. You Can Do A Quick
> Search
> .
>
>
>
> It Only Takes A Few Seconds
>
> Not Only Can You See Who They Are And Where They Live, You Also Get Email
> Alerts When A
> *New Sex Offender*
> 
> Moves Close To Your Home.
>
> It Also Has A Brunch Of Tools To Help Keep Our Kids Safe.
>
> Search Your Neighborhood NOW
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ASZDEFGEFRGBHNFRGTBHNJFGHN
>
>

Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW v6

2016-11-28 Thread Ink Canvas

Stop

On Nov 28, 2016 10:55 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> **Dear_{chantz}**
>
> You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk *Of Sex Offender*
> Activity
> In
> Your Aera.
>
> Here Is A Link To A Great Website Called Kids Live Safe.
>
>
> 
> The Website Show You All The Offenders That Live Nearby. You Can Do A Quick
> Search
> .
>
>
>
> It Only Takes A Few Seconds
>
> Not Only Can You See Who They Are And Where They Live, You Also Get Email
> Alerts When A
> *New Sex Offender*
> 
> Moves Close To Your Home.
>
> It Also Has A Brunch Of Tools To Help Keep Our Kids Safe.
>
> Search Your Neighborhood NOW
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ASZDEFGEFRGBHNFRGTBHNJFGHN
>
>

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

2016-11-28 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Monday 28 November 2016 16:58:49 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 04:57:12PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Monday 28 November 2016 13:09:06 Richard Hector wrote:
> > > FWIW, newer kernels are available in jessie-backports; you don't need
> > > to upgrade the whole thing just for that.
> >
> > As of now, only 4.7, which has been getting a bad write-up on this list
> > over the last few days.  4.4 doesn't seem to be there any more.
>
> But 4.6 is.
>
> linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 - Linux 4.6 for 64-bit PCs
>
> Many people are successfully using the 4.7 kernel, too.  It all depends
> on which of the kernel features you actually need for your machine and
> your programs.

lisi@Eros:~$ aptitude search linux-image
i   linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 - Linux 3.16 for 64-bit PCs
p   linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64-dbg - Debugging symbols for Linux 
3.16.0-4-amd64
p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64- Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs 
(signed)
p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-dbg- Debugging symbols for Linux 
4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned   - Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs
p   linux-image-4.7.0-1-grsec-amd64- Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs, 
Grsecurity protection
i   linux-image-amd64  - Linux for 64-bit PCs 
(meta-package)
p   linux-image-amd64-dbg  - Debugging symbols for Linux 
amd64 configuration (met
p   linux-image-grsec-amd64- Linux image meta-package, 
grsec featureset
lisi@Eros:~$


Lisi

Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW Wt

2016-11-28 Thread Joe Ruby

Does it say what they did? Usually something stupid like pissing outside... 
fuck your and your bullshit website 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:04 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> **Dear_{joerubyremodel}** 
> 
> You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk Of Sex Offender 
> Activity In 
> Your Aera. 
> 
> Here Is A Link To A Great Website Called Kids Live Safe. 
> 
> The Website Show You All The Offenders That Live Nearby. You Can Do A Quick 
> Search. 
> 
> 
> It Only Takes A Few Seconds 
> 
> Not Only Can You See Who They Are And Where They Live, You Also Get Email 
> Alerts When A 
> New Sex Offender Moves Close To Your Home. 
> 
> It Also Has A Brunch Of Tools To Help Keep Our Kids Safe. 
> 
> Search Your Neighborhood NOW
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW sq

2016-11-28 Thread The Kidd

wanna see my balls?

Re: forcefsck inconsistency

2016-11-28 Thread Michael Biebl

Am 28.11.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Michael Biebl wrote:

>  thank you for this usefull information, but some inconsistency remains:
> 
> in /run/initramfs/fsck.log, I find:
> 
>  Log of fsck -C -a -V -t ext4 /dev/sda2
>  Sat Nov 26 06:53:12 2016
> 
>  fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
>  [/sbin/fsck.ext4 (1) -- /dev/sda2] fsck.ext4 -a -C0 /dev/sda2
>  /dev/sda2: clean, 424229/1679360 files, 3245606/6704384 blocks
> 
>  Sat Nov 26 06:53:13 2016
>  
> 
> and tune2fs -l /dev/sda2 gives:
> 
> Last checked: Fri Nov 25 22:45:38 2016
> 
> and on an other PC, the difference is much bigger (24/10/2016 and
> 17/11/2016)
> 
> as for fsck-root, it is empty on both.

Oh, this is quite simple to explain.
If your file system is clean, fsck will simply do nothing.

The "Last checked" attribute is only reset, if fsck is actually run due to
1/ unclean file system
2/ forced fsck (fsck.mode=force on the kernel command line)
3/ max mount count or check interval reached.



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Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 04:57:12PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 28 November 2016 13:09:06 Richard Hector wrote:
> > FWIW, newer kernels are available in jessie-backports; you don't need to
> > upgrade the whole thing just for that.
> 
> As of now, only 4.7, which has been getting a bad write-up on this list over 
> the last few days.  4.4 doesn't seem to be there any more.

But 4.6 is.

linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 - Linux 4.6 for 64-bit PCs

Many people are successfully using the 4.7 kernel, too.  It all depends
on which of the kernel features you actually need for your machine and
your programs.

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

2016-11-28 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Monday 28 November 2016 13:09:06 Richard Hector wrote:
> On 27/11/16 04:53, iqwue Wabv wrote:
> > 1) jessie wifi doesn't work because lack of drivers for Intel® Dual Band
> > Wireless-AC 8260
> >
> > which is only available in >4.1 linux kernel. So I have to upgrade my
> > installation from jessie to testing
>
> FWIW, newer kernels are available in jessie-backports; you don't need to
> upgrade the whole thing just for that.
>
> Richard

As of now, only 4.7, which has been getting a bad write-up on this list over 
the last few days.  4.4 doesn't seem to be there any more.

Lisi

Re: downloading mail

2016-11-28 Thread Mike McClain

My .fetchmailrc has this:
poll mail.copper.net protocol pop3
user "mike..."with pass "" is "root" here
forcecr smtpaddress localhost fetchall
mda "/usr/sbin/sendmail -i -f %F -- %T"
HTH,
Mike

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 02:37:23PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> fetchmail
> fetchmail: no mailservers have been specified.
>
> which is pretty strange since
>
> less fetchmail
> poll "pop.west.cox.net"
> protocol pop3
> username "holtzm"
> #password "4vr4mz4v3l"
> password ""
> mimedecode
> mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f -"
>
> Tried a few other cominations including .fetchmail and .fetchmairc with
> no better results.
>
> I'mmissing something obvious, but what?
>
> --
> Bob  Holtzman
> "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

--
"He who has never made a mistake has not made anything"

Re: ls -l / question in jessie

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:10:04AM -0800, emetib wrote:
> why do the sym links in ls -l / point to /boot/ and boot/
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root31 Jun  3 10:34 initrd.img -> 
> /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root27 Jun  3 10:34 vmlinuz -> 
> boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
> 
> is this just a fluke in the way that the two of them were made?

Yes.  As long as you don't do anything fancy like mounting your root file
system somewhere other than root (e.g. after booting from rescue media)
and then trying to use those symlinks.  Which shouldn't be used by
anything anyway, except LILO, and you probably shouldn't be using LILO.

> cat /etc/debian_version 
> 8.6
> cat /etc/os-release 
> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
> 
> yet in stretch/sid they are both pointing to just boot/...
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root29 Sep 19 13:50 initrd.img -> 
> boot/initrd.img-4.6.0-1-amd64
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root26 Sep 19 13:50 vmlinuz -> 
> boot/vmlinuz-4.6.0-1-amd64

Looks like someone else already saw the discrepancy and decided to fix it.

ls -l / question in jessie

2016-11-28 Thread emetib

why do the sym links in ls -l / point to /boot/ and boot/

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root31 Jun  3 10:34 initrd.img -> 
/boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root27 Jun  3 10:34 vmlinuz -> 
boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64

is this just a fluke in the way that the two of them were made?

cat /etc/debian_version 
8.6
cat /etc/os-release 
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"

yet in stretch/sid they are both pointing to just boot/...

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root29 Sep 19 13:50 initrd.img -> 
boot/initrd.img-4.6.0-1-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root26 Sep 19 13:50 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-4.6.0-1-amd64


any ideas?
thank you
em

Re: Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

2016-11-28 Thread rhkramer

On Monday, November 28, 2016 10:35:55 AM Nicolas George wrote:
> L'octidi 8 frimaire, an CCXXV, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > I'm not the OP, but I don't know how to do that.  Are you referring to
> > things like bank accounts or things like accounts on online services
> > (e.g., for logon to google or such).
> 
> I am referring to things like bank accounts, everyday errands, etc.
> 
> I probably should have written "accounting" instead of "accounts",
> sorry.
> 
> A lot of people do that with a spreadsheet.
> 
> There are specialized programs like Gnucash and Grisbi.
> 
> Myself, I use a text file and perl scripts.

Ok, understood, thanks!

Re: cyrus-imap-ssl crashing

2016-11-28 Thread Henning Follmann

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 04:13:45PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On my jessie-powered VPS I'm handling mail with Postfix and cyrus-imap-ssl.
> 
> From time to time, I find I'm unable to send mail from my Thunderbird MUA
> due to my credentials being rejected. this may happen multiple times per
> day, or only once weekly.
> 
> Restarting the cyrus-imap-ssl daemon on the server always resolves the
> issue, but, of course, is inconvenient. I can find no log records suggesting
> what’s happening, but then I don't really know where to look, or what to
> look for.
> 
> The mail server has very low traffic, and only 3 users.
> 
> Can anyone please suggest a way forward to resolve this issue?
> 

Log file?
Exact error message?
Sending is not an imap issue. So you might want look into the MTA (in your
case Postfix).


-H




-- 
Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com

Re: Clé usb wifi

Je confirme

Le 26 nov. 2016 11:55, "contact"  a
écrit :

> la TPLINK TL-WN722N fonctionne aussi très bien
> *François-Marie BILLARD*
> Sculpteur - Céramiste 
> Le 25/11/2016 à 14:12, David Martin a écrit :
>
> ah ok c'est un mini pc...
> Je doute que ça passe, ce n'est pas la même clé ... du coup le chip non
> plus.
> Je gratterai ce soir.
>
>
> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:08, Maxime Flasquin 
> a écrit :
>
>> On 25/11/2016 14:05, David Martin wrote:
>>
>> Merci,
>> je ne connais pas raspbian, c'est quoi  ?
>>
>>
>> J'ai oublié de précisé qu'il me faudrait une double bande
>>
>> J'ai une TPLink T2U qui fonctionne bien sous windows 7, mais impossible
>> de la faire tourner sous Jessie, j'ai recompilé et recompilé le drivers,
>> rien n'y fait... impossible de se connecter... je choppe le signal... le
>> ssid, j'ai tout essayé... keudale.
>>
>> Je vais donc acheter une nouvelle clé, mais quoi...
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 25 novembre 2016 à 14:01, Maxime Flasquin 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> On 25/11/2016 13:53, David Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> Je cherche une clé usb wifi qui serait 100% compatible Jessie
>>>
>>> Pourriez-vous me conseiller une marque en particulier ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> david martin
>>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> J'ai justement installé hier soir cette clé usb wifi : tl-wn823n
>>>
>>> Je l'ai installée sur raspbian jessie. J'ai eu à installer le bon driver
>>> en suivant cette solution http://raspberrypi.stackexchan
>>> ge.com/questions/54716/raspberry-1-no-wifi-dongle-detected-
>>> tp-link-tl-wn823n
>>>
>>> Maxime Flasquin
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> david martin
>>
>> Raspbian est une version de Debian spécialement compilée pour le
>> raspberrypi. Tu peux sans doute essayer la solution que j'ai envoyé dans
>> mon précédent mail, ça a fonctionné pour moi et il s'agit également d'une
>> clé TP Link
>>
>
>
>
> --
> david martin
>
>
>

cyrus-imap-ssl crashing

2016-11-28 Thread Tony van der Hoff


Hi,

On my jessie-powered VPS I'm handling mail with Postfix and cyrus-imap-ssl.

From time to time, I find I'm unable to send mail from my Thunderbird 
MUA due to my credentials being rejected. this may happen multiple times 
per day, or only once weekly.


Restarting the cyrus-imap-ssl daemon on the server always resolves the 
issue, but, of course, is inconvenient. I can find no log records 
suggesting what’s happening, but then I don't really know where to look, 
or what to look for.


The mail server has very low traffic, and only 3 users.

Can anyone please suggest a way forward to resolve this issue?

--
Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org
Buckinghamshire, England |

Re: [HS] Géolocalisation et déontologie :

2016-11-28 Thread Haricophile

Le Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:37:49 +0100,
"Ph. Gras"  a écrit :

> Bonjour à toutes et à tous !
> 
> actuellement, je travaille sur une application Web destinée à tracer
> des bagages.
> 
> Un voyageur se connecterait sur le site où se trouve l'appli au
> moment de fermer sa, ou ses valises, génère un QR Code, l'imprime et
> le colle dessus.

Il me semble que l'acceptation peut se faire à ce moment non ? En plus
se c'est "anonymisé" avec seulement un code, ça ne doit pas être
très problématique. Quand on voyage en général et surtout
depuis quelque temps on est généralement déjà identifié pisté de
manière très intrusive "pour des raisons de sécurité"
et "en cas d'accident".

> Comment aborderiez-vous cette question de votre côte ?
> 
> Merci pour vos réponses et bon dimanche,
> 
> Ph. Gras

La première des déontologie est de ne collecter que les données
strictement nécessaires et de les détruire dès qu'elle ne sont plus
nécessaires. Je pense que la CNIL doit avoir une opinion et des
documents là dessus.

Normalement il y a aussi une obligation de sécurité des informations
collectées, donc sur une apli web/js/php, je suppose qu'il vaut mieux
que ce soit stocké de manière minimale avec un recoupement avec une base
non connectée si besoin (recherche de bagage perdu...).


-- 
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Re: Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 04:35:55PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> I am referring to things like bank accounts, everyday errands, etc.

I would find it rather difficult to access my bank's web-based account
management system without a network connection.  I think the only other
choice would be to walk into their actual brick and mortar location(*).
Telephone may be an option -- I will admit that I have not attempted
to bank by telephone with them since my bank merged with another bank
and now has a different brand name.  But I'm skeptical of it, from past
experiences.

(*) More like steel and glass.

Re: Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

2016-11-28 Thread Nicolas George

L'octidi 8 frimaire, an CCXXV, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit :
> I'm not the OP, but I don't know how to do that.  Are you referring to things 
> like bank accounts or things like accounts on online services (e.g., for 
> logon 
> to google or such).

I am referring to things like bank accounts, everyday errands, etc.

I probably should have written "accounting" instead of "accounts",
sorry.

A lot of people do that with a spreadsheet.

There are specialized programs like Gnucash and Grisbi.

Myself, I use a text file and perl scripts.


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Re: Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

2016-11-28 Thread rhkramer

On Monday, November 28, 2016 10:12:58 AM Nicolas George wrote:
> Do you not know how to manage your accounts without an Internet
> connection?

I'm not the OP, but I don't know how to do that.  Are you referring to things 
like bank accounts or things like accounts on online services (e.g., for logon 
to google or such).  In either case, I don't know how to do that and would be 
interested to learn...

Re: Cloner un disque

2016-11-28 Thread JC.EtiembleG


Le 28/11/2016 à 15:26, David Martin a écrit :

 Bonjour,


Qu'utilisez vous pour faire un clonage de votre Linux sur un nouveau disque
ou un windows 7 par exemple ?


http://clonezilla.org/


--
J-C Etiemble

Re: Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

2016-11-28 Thread Nicolas George

L'octidi 8 frimaire, an CCXXV, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
> A Linux system in 2016 without a working network is basically a brick,

Do you not know how to type and print a text without an Internet
connection?

Do you not know how to make computations without an Internet connection?

Do you not know how to tweak photos without an Internet connection?

Do you not know how to watch videos without an Internet connection?

Do you not know how to play games without an Internet connection?

Do you not know how to render 3D scenes without an Internet connection?

Do you not know how to manage your accounts without an Internet
connection?

People here can help you.

Regards,

-- 
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Re: WHY does Debootstrap wiki page point Users to Ubuntu?

2016-11-28 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Monday 28 November 2016 12:54:08 Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 06:43:54PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> > Hi, All :)
> >
> > Please forgive me if I have simply missed the memo where we bought
> > Ubuntu or Ubuntu bought Debian to where this is an appropriate move.
> >
> > So what had had happened was... I've been attempting to debootstrap
>
> [...]
> No error message, no description what you did..
>
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
> >
> > Toward the bottom of the page there...
>
> Is *ONE* example how to install ubuntu via dbebootstrap. And ubuntu is a
> debian based distribution, why in fact debbootstrap works.
> The rest of the page however is about debian.
>
> I think you are overreacting a bit.

I think you are obviously an Ubuntu supporter or fan.  I'm with Cindy.  It is 
creeping insidiously.

Lisi
>
> > My sincerest apologies if I have in fact missed the memo where that's
> > the direction we're going. If it's an executive decision that was
> > made, that's what it is what it is... what it is.
> >
> > #ThankYou to *EVERYONE* who contributes. Debian has been a MAJOR part
> > of my abject poverty level computing for several years now.
> >
> > Cindy :)
>
> -H

Re: bpo kernel 4.7 broken? Re: Some function keys not working on a ThinkPad W550s

2016-11-28 Thread Frédéric Marchal

On Tuesday 29 November 2016 02:22:40 Richard Hector wrote:
> On 26/11/16 14:27, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Nov 2016, Celejar wrote:
> >> > applications and a few things from backports. I'm currently running
> >> > kernel 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 from backports.
> > 
> > Don't.  That kernel is very broken.  Switch to the latest 4.8 kernel
> > available from either unstable or kernel.org, or compile the latest
> > 4.4-longterm kernel from kernel.org.
> 
> Woah. I was just about to install that. Am I ok, and better off,
> sticking with the 4.6 bpo kernel?

I had no joy with kernel 4.7 from backports on my HP ProBook 650.

The Broadcom-sta-dkms package is not available for that kernel version. So, no 
wireless network.

Moreover, the computer would frequently freeze during start up.

Frederic

Re: Cloner un disque

2016-11-28 Thread Klaus Becker

On lundi 28 novembre 2016 14:39:47 CET φ  Dhénin Jean-Jacques wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 3:26 PM, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Bonjour,
> 
> Qu'utilisez vous pour faire un clonage de votre Linux sur un nouveau disque
> ou un windows 7 par exemple ?



fsarchiver

Klaus

Re: Cloner un disque

Perso pour ce genre de manip

Un coup de rsync -av sur des partitions nouvellement crées ça fonctionne
nickel.

   Cordialement.

Christophe Leloup

Le 28 novembre 2016 à 15:39, φ Dhénin Jean-Jacques  a
écrit :

>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 3:26 PM, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Qu'utilisez vous pour faire un clonage de votre Linux sur un nouveau
>> disque
>> ou un windows 7 par exemple ?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> david martin
>>
>
> ddrescue
>
>
> -
> (V)  Dhénin Jean-Jacques
> ( ..) 48, rue de la Justice 78300 Poissy
> c(')(')  dhe...@gmail.com
> -
>

Re: Cloner un disque

2016-11-28 Thread φ Dhénin Jean-Jacques

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 3:26 PM, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Bonjour,

Qu'utilisez vous pour faire un clonage de votre Linux sur un nouveau disque
ou un windows 7 par exemple ?



-- 
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c(')(')  dhe...@gmail.com
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Re: Cloner un disque

2016-11-28 Thread Maxime Flasquin


On 28/11/2016 15:39, David Martin wrote:

Ah bon ben je vais explorer ça.

En fait je vais commencer par cloner mon Windows 7, il est sur un 
500Gb de 3,5 pouces et je voudrai le cloner sur un disque sata de 150Gb


je compte bien faire du ménage coté windows pour atteindre les 100Gb 
avant de cloner, d'après vous, ça passe impeccable avec gparted ou 
clonezilla

ou il faut exactement les memes capacités ?



Le 28 novembre 2016 à 15:31, Maxime Flasquin 
> a écrit :


On 28/11/2016 15:26, David Martin wrote:

Bonjour,

Qu'utilisez vous pour faire un clonage de votre Linux sur un
nouveau disque
ou un windows 7 par exemple ?



-- 
david martin



Bonjour,

Gparted le fait très bien à coups de copier/coller :)

Maxime Flasquin




--
david martin

Il te faut pas nécessairement la même capacité mais il te faudra réduire 
ta partition avant de la "copier/coller" sur le nouveau disque si elle 
fait plus que la capacité du disque.



Maxime Flasquin

Re: [HS] Géolocalisation et déontologie :

2016-11-28 Thread Sébastien NOBILI

Bonjour,

Le dimanche 27 novembre 2016 à 15:37, Ph. Gras a écrit :
> L'implémentation de la géolocalisation m'a posé quelques problèmes. Avec JS,
> le navigateur rouspète à chaque fois qu'on l'interroge à ce sujet. Je 
> comprends
> pourquoi et je l'admets parfaitement. Le problème est que ces précautions sont
> déclenchées au chargement de la page, quand le navigateur analyse le script.

Pourquoi ne pas décaler le chargement ? Tu affiches le message d’explication et
lorsque tu as l’accord de ton utilisateur, tu charges le script. Plusieurs
possibilités pour le chargement :
— tu changes de page et le script est dans une balise de la page cible,
— tu ne changes pas de page et tu charges le script en dynamique avec un
  outil comme Require.js.

Sébastien

Re: bpo kernel 4.7 broken? Re: Some function keys not working on a ThinkPad W550s

2016-11-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 26/11/16 14:27, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Nov 2016, Celejar wrote:
> >> > applications and a few things from backports. I'm currently running
> >> > kernel 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 from backports.
> > Don't.  That kernel is very broken.  Switch to the latest 4.8 kernel
> > available from either unstable or kernel.org, or compile the latest
> > 4.4-longterm kernel from kernel.org.
> 
> Woah. I was just about to install that. Am I ok, and better off,
> sticking with the 4.6 bpo kernel?

Likely so.  As usual, it is not going to be broken for everyone, and
really broken for a few.

> Will 4.8 hit bpo soon?

I don't know, but I would not be surprised if it never happens and the
next bpo kernel update ends up being a 4.9 kernel.

Linux kernel 4.9 is going to be the next longterm kernel, so I'd expect
the Debian kernel team to ignore 4.8 in unstable in order to focus their
efforts on being able to upload 4.9 (which is about to be released) to
unstable soonish.  Our release kernel target for Stretch is likely to be
4.9-longterm (it would make a *lot* of sense for it to be so).

And it is not like the current kernel in unstable/testing (4.8.7-based)
is up-to-date: it isn't.  And the fixes it is missing when compared to
4.8.11 are non-trivial, and some of them are rather important.

So, 4.8.7 might be even more broken than the 4.7 kernel currently in
backports (wherever 4.7 works reasonably well) for all I know.

> And is there a list I should be on to see this kind of thing?

LKML, mostly.  Also, git commit logs for the upstream kernel trees.

> (I just found the debian-backports list, but a quick scan only shows a
> couple of quite specific bugs in 4.7)

The Debian BTS is not the best place to look for kernel issues, it is
just one more place you have to check.  You also need to check the LKML
and the kernel bugzilla :-(

-- 
  Henrique Holschuh

Cloner un disque

Bonjour,

Qu'utilisez vous pour faire un clonage de votre Linux sur un nouveau disque
ou un windows 7 par exemple ?



-- 
david martin

Re: Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

2016-11-28 Thread Richard Owlett


On 11/28/2016 7:41 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:


A Linux system in 2016 without a working network is basically a brick,
so there should be no shock when the boot process patiently waits for
your network to be configured before bringing up all of the network
services.


You *ERR* 
Neither of the Linux machines in front of me have any networking 
connected.

One likely never will.
I was working on a project some time ago where there was active 
consideration of how to *DEFEAT* networking on some donated machines.


Not everybody has access to wide-band internet access - which is 
what is assumed for any mention of "networking". It is a 
significant enough that apt-offline is actively maintained 
[v1.7.1 released 2016-09-12].


I do admit the majority have ridiculously large speed demon well 
connected machines.

That routinely causes problems for some of us ;{

Re: forcefsck inconsistency


On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Michael Biebl wrote:


/ and /usr are fscked by the initramfs.
Assuming you use initramfs-tools, which is the default in Debian, you
can find the log files at
/run/initramfs/fsck*




 thank you for this usefull information, but some inconsistency remains:

in /run/initramfs/fsck.log, I find:

 Log of fsck -C -a -V -t ext4 /dev/sda2
 Sat Nov 26 06:53:12 2016

 fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
 [/sbin/fsck.ext4 (1) -- /dev/sda2] fsck.ext4 -a -C0 /dev/sda2
 /dev/sda2: clean, 424229/1679360 files, 3245606/6704384 blocks

 Sat Nov 26 06:53:13 2016
 

and tune2fs -l /dev/sda2 gives:

Last checked: Fri Nov 25 22:45:38 2016

and on an other PC, the difference is much bigger (24/10/2016 and 17/11/2016)

as for fsck-root, it is empty on both.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 02:02:37PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 11/25/16, oldbluebear  wrote:
> > What is LBC ? I am getting screens of stuff that no longer makes sense.
> 
> Never heard of it so I tried a quick search of the Net. Landed the
> potential phrase, "Linux Binary Compatibility". Does anyone know if
> that sounds anywhere near the right ballpark for that acronym?

If you saw his original post, "LBC" is a typo that he made after citing
a boot message that contained "LSB".

"LSB" stands for Linux Standard Base:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base

I don't know what LSB has to do with Debian's boot process waiting for
the network interfaces to be configured before proceeding. but that's
the boot message he cited originally, before starting his rant.

A Linux system in 2016 without a working network is basically a brick,
so there should be no shock when the boot process patiently waits for
your network to be configured before bringing up all of the network
services.

Re: forcefsck inconsistency

2016-11-28 Thread Michael Biebl

Am 28.11.2016 um 14:11 schrieb Richard Hector:
> On 26/11/16 22:03, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
>>  According the tune2fs output, the check on / was actually done.
>>  I naïvely looked at syslog to find the checked devices, and I
>> could  not imagine
>>  that the fsck checks are reported in syslog for all partitions, but
>> not for /...
> 
> Because / was mounted read-only while being checked, so syslog couldn't
> be written, perhaps?

/ and /usr are fscked by the initramfs.
Assuming you use initramfs-tools, which is the default in Debian, you
can find the log files at
/run/initramfs/fsck*


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Re: forcefsck inconsistency


On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Richard Hector wrote:


On 26/11/16 22:03, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

 According the tune2fs output, the check on / was actually done.
 I naïvely looked at syslog to find the checked devices, and I
could  not imagine
 that the fsck checks are reported in syslog for all partitions, but
not for /...


Because / was mounted read-only while being checked, so syslog couldn't
be written, perhaps?

Richard



  hi Richard,
  you are probably right, but I imagine that the available space in memory
  should allow the kernel to store a few lines there, until / is
  re-mounted rw

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

bpo kernel 4.7 broken? Re: Some function keys not working on a ThinkPad W550s

On 26/11/16 14:27, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016, Celejar wrote:
>> > applications and a few things from backports. I'm currently running
>> > kernel 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 from backports.
> Don't.  That kernel is very broken.  Switch to the latest 4.8 kernel
> available from either unstable or kernel.org, or compile the latest
> 4.4-longterm kernel from kernel.org.

Woah. I was just about to install that. Am I ok, and better off,
sticking with the 4.6 bpo kernel?

Will 4.8 hit bpo soon?

And is there a list I should be on to see this kind of thing?

(I just found the debian-backports list, but a quick scan only shows a
couple of quite specific bugs in 4.7)

Cheers,
Richard




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Re: sudo + gpg - howto?

2016-11-28 Thread Kamil Jońca

Michael Luecke  writes:

[...]
>
>
> You could also try putting the option "allow-loopback-pinentry" to
> ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf and restarting the agent.
>
> Then you could start gpg with '--pinentry-mode loopback' or put
> "pinentry-mode loopback" to ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf.

Hm. After doing that gpg was able to read passphrase from
file. Succes. But this behaviour is strange for me.

Thanks.
KJ

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Re: Off-topic sobre libreboot i espionatge (era: Re: Connexió paral.lel vs. USB)

2016-11-28 Thread Narcis Garcia

«El pa de cada dia» de l'estil de coses que em trobo amb molts usuaris.
Avui mateix, els pulsòmetres del fabricant «Polar», que no s'obren com
una memòria USB qualsevol sinó amb l'aplicatiu que et proporcionen al
seu web.
Però per utilitzar el seu web l'usuari s'ha de registrar, i aleshores
«tot va com toca» perquè el software propietari recull les dades de
salut sobre la persona i les sincronitza amb «el núvol», és a dir que
les filtra a l'empresa vulguis o no. Les asseguradores mèdiques es
freguen les mans amb aquest temes nuvolosos per filtrar la clientela.

__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.
El 28/11/16 a les 12:51, Orestes Mas ha escrit:
> On 20/11/16 21:30, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote:
>> El Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:05:56PM +0100, ilion1250 deia:
>>> Estic en procès de canviar d'ordinador i em trobo amb alguns
>>> problemes (a
>>> part de la poca oferta d'ordinadors que no portin cap sistema
>>> operatiu), es
>> Sí, i en tot cas n'hi ha un munt que porten un sistema operatiu amb
>> servidor web, etc. per al control remot per sota del sistema operatiu
>> i que no pots substituir. :(
>>
>>
>> https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel
>>
> Això d'Intel/AMD és una solemne merda ben grossa. Vull dir: tots som més
> o menys conscients que ens espien i monitoritzen constantment, però
> llegir-ho negre sobre blanc és força impactant.
> 
> Ho sento. Quan ho he llegit, m'he hagut d'esbravar.
> 
> Orestes.
>

Re: forcefsck inconsistency

On 26/11/16 22:03, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
>  According the tune2fs output, the check on / was actually done.
>  I naïvely looked at syslog to find the checked devices, and I
> could  not imagine
>  that the fsck checks are reported in syslog for all partitions, but
> not for /...

Because / was mounted read-only while being checked, so syslog couldn't
be written, perhaps?

Richard




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Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

On 27/11/16 04:53, iqwue Wabv wrote:
> 1) jessie wifi doesn't work because lack of drivers for Intel® Dual Band
> Wireless-AC 8260
> 
> which is only available in >4.1 linux kernel. So I have to upgrade my
> installation from jessie to testing
> 

FWIW, newer kernels are available in jessie-backports; you don't need to
upgrade the whole thing just for that.

Richard




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Re: Weirdness with two packages.........

2016-11-28 Thread The Wanderer

On 2016-11-28 at 07:40, Charlie wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 07:22:23 -0500 The Wanderer sent:
> 
>> My best guess is that at some point, you installed some package from a
>> different repository, which depended on these higher-epoch package
>> versions, and thus got them upgraded without upgrading the rest of
>> your libav* package ecosystem.
> 
>   After contemplation, my reply is:
> 
> You may be right.
> 
> I might have used a different mirror, but Chromium and Goldendict
> worked last week. I didn't need to change the mirror just before or
> after that? Will see how I go with removing these that are giving me
> problems and see where I go from there.

Most likely, in the meantime a new version of the lower-epoch libav*
package(s) became available, you upgraded to that new version, and that
new version introduced a symbols mismatch against the higher-epoch ones.

> Thank you again for your help. It's very much appreciated.

You're quite welcome.

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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Off-topic sobre libreboot i espionatge (era: Re: Connexió paral.lel vs. USB)

2016-11-28 Thread Orestes Mas


On 20/11/16 21:30, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote:

El Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:05:56PM +0100, ilion1250 deia:

Estic en procès de canviar d'ordinador i em trobo amb alguns problemes (a
part de la poca oferta d'ordinadors que no portin cap sistema operatiu), es

Sí, i en tot cas n'hi ha un munt que porten un sistema operatiu amb
servidor web, etc. per al control remot per sota del sistema operatiu
i que no pots substituir. :(


https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel

Això d'Intel/AMD és una solemne merda ben grossa. Vull dir: tots som més 
o menys conscients que ens espien i monitoritzen constantment, però 
llegir-ho negre sobre blanc és força impactant.


Ho sento. Quan ho he llegit, m'he hagut d'esbravar.

Orestes.

Re: WHY does Debootstrap wiki page point Users to Ubuntu?

2016-11-28 Thread Henning Follmann

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 06:43:54PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> Hi, All :)
> 
> Please forgive me if I have simply missed the memo where we bought
> Ubuntu or Ubuntu bought Debian to where this is an appropriate move.
> 
> So what had had happened was... I've been attempting to debootstrap
>
[...] 
No error message, no description what you did..

 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
> 
> Toward the bottom of the page there...

Is *ONE* example how to install ubuntu via dbebootstrap. And ubuntu is a
debian based distribution, why in fact debbootstrap works.
The rest of the page however is about debian.

I think you are overreacting a bit.

> 
> My sincerest apologies if I have in fact missed the memo where that's
> the direction we're going. If it's an executive decision that was
> made, that's what it is what it is... what it is.
> 
> #ThankYou to *EVERYONE* who contributes. Debian has been a MAJOR part
> of my abject poverty level computing for several years now.
> 
> Cindy :)
> 


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Re: Weirdness with two packages.........

2016-11-28 Thread Charlie

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 07:22:23 -0500 The Wanderer sent:

> My best guess is that at some point, you installed some package from a
> different repository, which depended on these higher-epoch package
> versions, and thus got them upgraded without upgrading the rest of
> your libav* package ecosystem.

After contemplation, my reply is:

You may be right.

I might have used a different mirror, but Chromium and Goldendict
worked last week. I didn't need to change the mirror just before or
after that? Will see how I go with removing these that are giving me
problems and see where I go from there.

Thank you again for your help. It's very much appreciated.

Stay well,
Charlie

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Re: Weirdness with two packages.........

2016-11-28 Thread The Wanderer

On 2016-11-28 at 07:27, Charlie wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:19:38 -0500 The Wanderer sent:
> 
>> This is almost certainly your problem. The version of libavutil which
>> you have is from a different source, with a higher epoch version but a
>> lower upstream version, and is no longer available from your selected
>> repositories. In particular, it is not the same version as your other
>> libav* libraries (as the snipped version information for libavformat
>> indicates), and that mismatch is probably the source of the problem.
> 
>   After contemplation, my reply is:
> 
> Further to this:
> 
> I have another machine:
> 
> Linux taogypsy 4.6.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.6.4-1 (2016-07-18) x86_64
> GNU/Linux
> 
> This has:
> 
> $ apt-cache policy libavformat57
> libavformat57:
>   Installed: 10:3.1.1-dmo2
>   Candidate: 10:3.1.1-dmo2
>   Version table:
>  *** 10:3.1.1-dmo2 100
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  7:3.2-2 500
> 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
> 
> So attempted to look for that with the machine that is:
> 
> In  3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3
>   (2015-08-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> Attempting to install that - Produced the error code:
> 
> # apt-get install libavformat57=10:3.1.1-dmo2
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree   
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Version '10:3.1.1-dmo2' for 'libavformat57' was not found

That's not a surprise.

The location source '/var/lib/dpkg/status' indicates that that version
of the package is found in the list of installed packages on your
machine, rather than in a package list from an upstream repository. (For
most packages, you will see _two_ location source lines under the
installed version: one from /var/lib/dpkg/status, and the other from a
configured repository.)

Since the list of installed packages on your machine doesn't include an
indication of where to obtain the .deb file for installation, apt-get
can't find the file it needs to carry out the install, so it can't proceed.

That said, the .deb file in question is probably located on the machine
where the package _is_ installed, under /var/cache/apt/archives/ - but
there will almost certainly be a _lot_ of .deb files there, and sorting
through them may be confusing.

I would recommend that you either proceed with downgrading all of the
libav* packages (which includes libswsample*) - probably on both
machines - or figure out what repository you got them from, re-enable
it, and see how you can proceed from there.

In the latter vein, you might find it worthwhile to check
/etc/apt/sources.list and see whether you have any commented-out
repositories.

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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: Weirdness with two packages.........

2016-11-28 Thread Charlie

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:19:38 -0500 The Wanderer sent:

> This is almost certainly your problem. The version of libavutil which
> you have is from a different source, with a higher epoch version but a
> lower upstream version, and is no longer available from your selected
> repositories. In particular, it is not the same version as your other
> libav* libraries (as the snipped version information for libavformat
> indicates), and that mismatch is probably the source of the problem.

After contemplation, my reply is:

Further to this:

I have another machine:

Linux taogypsy 4.6.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.6.4-1 (2016-07-18) x86_64
GNU/Linux

This has:

$ apt-cache policy libavformat57
libavformat57:
  Installed: 10:3.1.1-dmo2
  Candidate: 10:3.1.1-dmo2
  Version table:
 *** 10:3.1.1-dmo2 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 7:3.2-2 500
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages

So attempted to look for that with the machine that is:

In  3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3
(2015-08-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux

Attempting to install that - Produced the error code:

# apt-get install libavformat57=10:3.1.1-dmo2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
E: Version '10:3.1.1-dmo2' for 'libavformat57' was not found

Thanks again for your help.

Charlie

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Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-28 Thread Richard Owlett

I went to https://packages.debian.org/stable/ looking for test 
utilities.
The closest heading I found was "Utilities" 
[https://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/].

The only relevant entry I found there was "memtester (4.3.0-3)".
I did not find "memtest86+" which I've used many times [It was 
listed under "Similar packages:" on 
https://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/memtester].
I found nothing for testing hard disks or video subsystems 
.


I also tried "Administration Utilities" 
[https://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/].

Found nothing for hardware tests at all.

I just "know" there must be more available.

Pointers?
TIA

Re: Weirdness with two packages.........

2016-11-28 Thread The Wanderer

On 2016-11-28 at 01:10, Charlie wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:19:38 -0500 The Wanderer sent:
> 
> 
> 
>> I have - different from your own:
>>> 
>>> $ apt-cache policy libavutil55
>>> libavutil55:
>>>   Installed: 10:3.1.2-dmo2
>>>   Candidate: 10:3.1.2-dmo2
>>>   Version table:
>>>  *** 10:3.1.2-dmo2 100
>>> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>>>  7:3.2-2 500
>>> 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64
>>> Packages  
>> 
>> This is almost certainly your problem. The version of libavutil which
>> you have is from a different source, with a higher epoch version but a
>> lower upstream version, and is no longer available from your selected
>> repositories. In particular, it is not the same version as your other
>> libav* libraries (as the snipped version information for libavformat
>> indicates), and that mismatch is probably the source of the problem.
>> 
>> Do you have any idea how this mismatched package version may have come
>> about?
>> 
>> I recommend that you explicitly install the "lower" version listed
>> here (7:3.2-2), and see if your problem goes away.
>> 
>> I don't know what tools you normally use for package installation and
>> upgrade, but I would do that with the following command (in a root
>> terminal):
>> 
>> apt-get install libavutil55=7:3.2-2
> 
>   After contemplation, my reply is:
> 
> I'm on a different machine now, at a different place when sending this.
> 
> I only ever use apt-get for updates, upgrades, installs and purges.
> 
> But before I left that machine I attempted your excellent suggestion
> and received this error message:
> 
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  libswresample2 : Depends: libavutil55 (>= 10:3.1.2) but 7:3.2-2 is to
> be installed
> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
> caused by held packages.
> 
> I assume that I might have missed a bug report on a update/upgrade? So
> I will just have to purge libswresample2, and libavutil55 (>= 10:3.1.2)

Actually, it looks like libswresample2 has the same problem: the
installed version has a higher epoch but lower actual version.

My best guess is that at some point, you installed some package from a
different repository, which depended on these higher-epoch package
versions, and thus got them upgraded without upgrading the rest of your
libav* package ecosystem.

I would just add libswresample2 to your explicit-version install
command, and see what result you get. It may give further
unmet-dependencies errors; if you pursue the cascade far enough (I'd
advise checking each new package with 'apt-cache policy' to see
available versions before proceeding), you may be able to identify the
package(s) which depend or depended on the higher-epoch libav* packages
to begin with.

(Purging the libav* packages will probably result in trying to uninstall
various packages which depend on them, possibly including quite a few
things you may actually want. Although you could always do that and
reinstall the appropriate packages afterwards, "down"grading is almost
certainly the superior solution.)

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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: How to get ssh to run in daemon script

On 27/11/16 23:55, Russell Gadd wrote:
> So I'm scrambling around in the dark. Currently my vague ideas as to
> what might be wrong are:
> 
> script doesn't know what nasbox is (it is defined in /etc/hosts)

You could test that by using the IP address

> ssh is being run without being associated as root
> ssh cannot find root's keys

This seems the most likely to me - if $HOME isn't set in the script's
environment, for example. You could explicitly tell ssh where to find
the required key, with the -i option - eg:

/usr/bin/ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_rsa root@nasbox poweroff

> nas doesn't recognise login as authorised user
> 
> I'm also starting to think I am stressing the UPS too much by running
> too many power off tests, so I'd like to resolve this without too much
> more experimentation.

You could do your testing by sshing to a different box (even localhost)
and/or running a different command?

eg "ssh root@localhost whoami > /root/test.out" ... and have a look at
the file afterwards

Richard

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Re: firewall para novatos

2016-11-28 Thread Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda

Firestarter

http://robersoft.blogcindario.com/2011/01/00010-firewall-cortafuegos-en-ubuntu.html





*Saludes;*

rasa.

El 27 de noviembre de 2016, 17:08, Alejandro Gutiérrez <
alexfile...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Algo simple e intuitivo podría ser Gufw, la interfaz gráfica de ufw.
>
> El 27/11/16 a las 11:09, Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda escribió:
> > Mira
> > https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/PfSense
> > https://pfsense.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > *Saludes;*
> >
> > rasa.
> >
> > El 26 de noviembre de 2016, 12:57, Laotrasolucion
> > > escribió:
> >
> >
> >
> > El 26/11/16 a las 10:35, divagante escribió:
> > > Hola gente!
> > >
> > >  Bueno, por conveniencia para quien quiera ayudarme con algun dato
> > dire
> > > que soy un usuario de debian de 7 años de antiguedad, pero que aun
> no
> > > encontre el tiempo o las ganas de conocer profundamente la
> > > administracion de sistemas unix o redes...
> > >  No hago scrips ni entiendo sobre redes mas alla de configurar con
> > > alguna guia de ayuda /etc/network/interfaces. Algo que hace rato
> > ni hago
> > > debido a los gestores como wicd o gnome.
> > >
> > >  Si bien no descarto en un futuro leer y meterme con iptables,
> > quisiera
> > > empezar al montar un futuro servidor de radio streaming, con un
> > firewall
> > > intuitivo, facil de manejar y con interfaz grafica.
> > >
> > >  Nota: recuerdo que hace ya algunos años usando windows y el
> antivirus
> > > kaspersky instale el firewall de este ultimo, y la verdad me
> resulto
> > > super intuitivo y manejable. Se veian claramente las peticiones de
> > algun
> > > programa freeware hacia internet y como este las denegaba si uno
> con
> > > algunos clicks lo determinaba asi.
> > >
> > >  Muchas gracias por su ayuda.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hola,
> >
> > Yo la verdad que no he usado mucho las GUI para iptables, pero la
> pagina
> > de iptables tiene un apartado con algunos.
> >
> > http://www.iptables.info/en/iptables-gui.html
> > 
> >
> > Yo personalmente he usado alguna vez fwbuilder, que esta bastante
> bien.
> > Hay bastante documentación y videos explicativos.
> > No se si algunos de los que existe pueda complacer tus requerimientos
> > tal como lo hizo don kaspersky, pero dejame decirte que armar un
> > firewall no es una tarea tan complicada, siempre y cuando entiendas
> los
> > conceptos.
> >
> >
>
>

ibus-pinyin can not be activated using Crtl-Space combination key

2016-11-28 Thread zhang teng

hi, i can not activate ibus-pinyin inputmethod using Crtl-Space
combination key.
can you provide me with some advice for troubeshooting, the following
are the commands that i used and some system information:

# i followed the instructions on the follwing websites:
#   $01 = https://wiki.debian.org/gnome-chinese-input
#   https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/ibus

$ sudo apt-get install FONTS_ON_$01
$ sudo apt-get install ibus ibus-pinyin im-config
$ sudo im-config -n ibus

# after finished above, i also added following lines to $HOME/.bashrc
# export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
# export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
# export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
# except above, i don't change other files in the system
# At last, i logout and re-login, but Crtl-Space can not acvitave the
# inputmethod.


$ uname -a
Linux zhangteng 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u2
(2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux

hardware:  Thinkpad T420
desktop: GNOME

(if you need more information of my system, please tell me, thank you)

[HS] connecton sftp

Bonjour,

J'ai un problème de connexion sftp au boulot, et je n'ai pas d'autre choix
que de contourner ce problème :

Je m'explique je dois déposer un fichier sur un serveur en me connectant
via sftp, la connexion se fait de façon aléatoire.

sftp user@serveur-distant, un coup ça passe nickel
un coup il faut que je relance la commande en ayant fait au préalable un
control - C pour couper la connexion et la relancer.

Parfois je dois le faire au moins 3 ou 4 fois (le control -c et relancer)

Avec l'option -v quand la connexion se fait bien, je peut récuperer
l'intruction Connected, par contre
je ne sais pas comment faire pour faire :

sftp -v user@serveur-distant

si j'ai connected ok
sinon un control -c et je retente.

Auriez-vous une idée ?








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