RE: useful info

[Diego Dona]

Hello friend, 
I've recently read some  useful information,  I  guess it  might be useful for 
you too, please read at 

Yours sincerely, Diego Dona



From: debian-italian [mailto:debian-ital...@lists.debian.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 12:14 AM
To: diego.d...@libero.it
Subject: Why thank you :D

That feeling when a  zoobrat slightly  hesitates  going face  when I haven't 
played a creature all game, have a secret up, am at 16 hp  and then decides to 
do it  and I respond with 2x molten giant, sea  giant, echo,  repeat,  he 
triggers the ice block next turn, threatens me and then concedes likely off to  
pollute  someone else's night.  But not mine.

Beautiful, I love you man.

Re: Ben voilà on y est (sur de la vente liée)

[hamster]

Le 22/12/2016 00:22, Haricophile a écrit :

Le Wed, 21 Dec 2016 23:21:54 +0100,
"Ph. Gras"  a écrit :


Là, tu es en train de nous expliquer pourquoi tu es socialiste :-)


C'est quoi "socialiste" ? Je n'ai pas trouvé ce soft sur Framasoft. Les
codes sources sont dispo ?


Non.

Par contre, apt install anarchism ca marche !

Re: Ben voilà on y est (sur de la vente liée)

[Haricophile]

Le Wed, 21 Dec 2016 23:21:54 +0100,
"Ph. Gras"  a écrit :

> Là, tu es en train de nous expliquer pourquoi tu es socialiste :-)

C'est quoi "socialiste" ? Je n'ai pas trouvé ce soft sur Framasoft. Les
codes sources sont dispo ?

Re: Ben voilà on y est (sur de la vente liée)

[Ph. Gras]

Le 21 déc. 2016 à 22:30, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> On Monday 19 December 2016 20:32:04 you wrote:
>> Le 12/19/2016 à 20:29, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
>>> /www.courdecassation.fr/jurisprudence_2/premiere_chambre_civile_568/1414_14_35695.html
>>> Quel dommage !
> 
> Deux bonnes résolutions concrètes :
> 
> Ne plus acheter des ordinateurs avec des Window$ pré-installés s'impose :
> Il faut trouver des points de vente qui vendent des portables nus (sans OS),
> et les signaler à qui veut.
> ET
> Ne surtout pas voter pour le candidat Benoît HAMON,
> qui est l'initiateur de ce désastre, en supprimant la directive
> de la Vente liée ordinateur <=> Système.
> 
> André
> 

Là, tu es en train de nous expliquer pourquoi tu es socialiste :-)

Ph. Gras
Complètement HS

Re: Which type of FTP transfer for apt and aptitude?

[Joe]

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:54:21 +
Joe  wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:49:21 +0100
> "M.A. Perry"  wrote:
> 
> > Dear People,
> > A simple question for which I have so far found no
> > answer in the Debian documentation. My computer
> > is a domestic, Debian 8.6 AMD-64 box that uses
> > apt-get and aptitude for ugrades and/or installations.
> > 
> > We are currently writing a set of ip_tables rules for
> > a default baseline  -A OUTPUT DROP. Thus the rules
> > will block outgoing traffic which is not specifically
> > permitted.
> > 
> > The URL specifications in /etc/apt/sources.list of
> > my Debian box contain both HTTP and FTP in the URL
> > for example: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ and this
> > confuses me.
> > 
> > QUESTION:
> > Which data transfer protocol(s) are used for downloads
> > from the Debian Repository to my desktop? Must my
> > firewall ACCEPT
> > -- plain HTTP (port 80) ; or
> > -- is HTTPS (port 443) later involved; or
> > -- active FTP (port 20) used or
> > -- passive FTP (port 1024:65535) applicable ?
> > Can anyone enlighten me please??  
> 
> The URL you quote is an http one (the protocol before the ':'
> determines it, everything after the '//' is just a hostname).
> 
> This makes life easiest, just allow 80 and 443. Some mirrors will I
> believe use https, there is a current thread on the subject.
> 
> For FTP, you need the ip_conntrack and ip_conntrack_ftp modules loaded
> (as FTP uses more than one port in a session) and something like this:
> http://www.devops-blog.net/iptables/iptables-settings-for-outgoing-ftp
> 

I'd forgotten, I occasionally use FTP for uploading, my only firewall
forwarding rule is:

iptables -A fwd-out-OK -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT

fwd-out-OK is my list of permitted outputs from the LAN. The
conntrack_ftp module organises the data port permissions as required,
with conntrack handling all the stateful replies on the same port as
an outgoing request.

-- 
Joe

Re: Which type of FTP transfer for apt and aptitude?

[Joe]

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:49:21 +0100
"M.A. Perry"  wrote:

> Dear People,
> A simple question for which I have so far found no
> answer in the Debian documentation. My computer
> is a domestic, Debian 8.6 AMD-64 box that uses
> apt-get and aptitude for ugrades and/or installations.
> 
> We are currently writing a set of ip_tables rules for
> a default baseline  -A OUTPUT DROP. Thus the rules
> will block outgoing traffic which is not specifically
> permitted.
> 
> The URL specifications in /etc/apt/sources.list of
> my Debian box contain both HTTP and FTP in the URL
> for example: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ and this
> confuses me.
> 
> QUESTION:
> Which data transfer protocol(s) are used for downloads
> from the Debian Repository to my desktop? Must my
> firewall ACCEPT
> -- plain HTTP (port 80) ; or
> -- is HTTPS (port 443) later involved; or
> -- active FTP (port 20) used or
> -- passive FTP (port 1024:65535) applicable ?
> Can anyone enlighten me please??

The URL you quote is an http one (the protocol before the ':'
determines it, everything after the '//' is just a hostname).

This makes life easiest, just allow 80 and 443. Some mirrors will I
believe use https, there is a current thread on the subject.

For FTP, you need the ip_conntrack and ip_conntrack_ftp modules loaded
(as FTP uses more than one port in a session) and something like this:
http://www.devops-blog.net/iptables/iptables-settings-for-outgoing-ftp

-- 
Joe

Re: Ben voilà on y est (sur de la vente liée)

[andre_debian]

On Monday 19 December 2016 20:32:04 you wrote:
> Le 12/19/2016 à 20:29, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
>> /www.courdecassation.fr/jurisprudence_2/premiere_chambre_civile_568/1414_14_35695.html
> > Quel dommage !
 
Deux bonnes résolutions concrètes :

Ne plus acheter des ordinateurs avec des Window$ pré-installés s'impose :
Il faut trouver des points de vente qui vendent des portables nus (sans OS),
et les signaler à qui veut.
ET
Ne surtout pas voter pour le candidat Benoît HAMON,
qui est l'initiateur de ce désastre, en supprimant la directive
de la Vente liée ordinateur <=> Système.

André

Re: Which type of FTP transfer for apt and aptitude?

[Dan Ritter]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 09:49:21PM +0100, M.A. Perry wrote:
> Dear People,
> A simple question for which I have so far found no
> answer in the Debian documentation. My computer
> is a domestic, Debian 8.6 AMD-64 box that uses
> apt-get and aptitude for ugrades and/or installations.
> 
> We are currently writing a set of ip_tables rules for
> a default baseline  -A OUTPUT DROP. Thus the rules
> will block outgoing traffic which is not specifically
> permitted.
> 
> The URL specifications in /etc/apt/sources.list of
> my Debian box contain both HTTP and FTP in the URL
> for example: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ and this
> confuses me.
> 
> QUESTION:
> Which data transfer protocol(s) are used for downloads
> from the Debian Repository to my desktop? Must my
> firewall ACCEPT
> -- plain HTTP (port 80) ; or
> -- is HTTPS (port 443) later involved; or
> -- active FTP (port 20) used or
> -- passive FTP (port 1024:65535) applicable ?

The URL specifies http as the protocol; the name of the
machine is ftp.nl.debian.org for historical reasons.

While you can actually use ftp to retrieve the files,
http performs much better. Just use http. Open up
443 as well, as it is likely that Debian will transition
to https in the future.

-dsr-

Which type of FTP transfer for apt and aptitude?

[M.A. Perry]

Dear People,
A simple question for which I have so far found no
answer in the Debian documentation. My computer
is a domestic, Debian 8.6 AMD-64 box that uses
apt-get and aptitude for ugrades and/or installations.

We are currently writing a set of ip_tables rules for
a default baseline  -A OUTPUT DROP. Thus the rules
will block outgoing traffic which is not specifically
permitted.

The URL specifications in /etc/apt/sources.list of
my Debian box contain both HTTP and FTP in the URL
for example: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ and this
confuses me.

QUESTION:
Which data transfer protocol(s) are used for downloads
from the Debian Repository to my desktop? Must my
firewall ACCEPT
-- plain HTTP (port 80) ; or
-- is HTTPS (port 443) later involved; or
-- active FTP (port 20) used or
-- passive FTP (port 1024:65535) applicable ?
Can anyone enlighten me please??
Thanks in advance.
M.A. Perry
--

Re: Asus Eee PC Flare series (1025c) -- SOLUCIONADO

[Thiago Canuto Ferreira]

Que bom Ednardo. Fico feliz pela solução do problema. Então você estava
tentando instalar com uma interface gráfica diferente da XFCE, e era
esse o problema?

Thiago C. F.

Em Ter, 2016-12-20 às 20:01 -0200, Ednardo Lobo escreveu:
> Pessoal,
> 
> Agradeço as sugestões, muitas delas contribuíram para que chegasse a 
> solução do problema. Ao que tudo indica, o problema estava com o kernel 
> utilizado no sistema de instalação que não lidava bem com gerenciamento 
> de temperatura do netbook em questão.
> 
> Baixei então a imagem "debian-live-8.6.0-i386-xfce-desktop.iso" e 
> experimentei no netbook. Tudo funcionou perfeitamente bem, sendo 
> reconhecido sem que nenhuma intervenção fosse necessária, todos os 
> dispositivos (ex: video, som, mouse, teclado, usb, ethernet, wifi, 
> etc.). Efetuei então a instalação definitiva no disco e novamente todos 
> os dispositivos foram adequadamente reconhecidos.
> 
> Grato,
> 
> On 10-12-2016 19:50, Ednardo Lobo wrote:
> > Caros,
> >
> > Estou tentando sem sucesso instalar um Debian Jessie i386 neste netbook.
> > Durante o processo de instalação, sendo realizado através de um
> > pendriver com a imagem "debian-8.6.0-i386-netinst.iso", ele simplesmente
> > trava.
> >
> > Repeti o processo várias vezes e o travamento não ocorre num ponto
> > específico da instalação, mas em pontos aleatórios. O mais longe que
> > cheguei foi a fase de download dos pacotes, após o particionamento.
> >
> > Esse netbook está em perfeito estado de funcionamento, não apresentando
> > travamentos quando rodando o Windows 7 que foi reinstalado sem nenhum
> > problema.
> >
> > Utilizo o Debian a muitos anos e já o instalei em muitos computadores e
> > nunca havia enfrentado problemas de travamento. Necessito, portanto, de
> > qualquer sugestão que ajude a identificar e contornar esse problema.
> >
> > Grato,
> 
> 

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

[Joe]

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:00:06 +
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Monday 19 December 2016 18:58:43 Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:38:51 +0100
> >
> > Vincent Lefevre  wrote:  
> > > On 2016-12-16 18:06:26 +, Joe wrote:  
> > > > Do you have X running?  
> > >
> > > Not always.
> > >  
> > > > I use Synaptic in these situations, where it is easy to try
> > > > packages to see what can be upgraded without removals I'm not
> > > > willing to accept.  
> > >
> > > But that's not automatic (aptitude can also do that, and one can
> > > undo a choice if it yields removals).  
> >
> > Difficult to see how it could be automated, as sometimes it's a
> > value judgement as to whether to temporarily sacrifice application
> > x in order to upgrade y immediately, or whether to wait a while.
> > Occasionally, a package is removed permanently, and there's no
> > obvious way of differentiating such a removal from a temporary
> > dependency issue without resorting to a search engine.
> >
> > And I know that aptitude can do all kinds of amazing things in
> > interactive mode, but I have some kind of mental block about it.
> > I've tried learning it two or three times, and it seems to be just
> > about as counter-intuitive to operate as anything possibly can be.
> > I have nothing against curses programs, I use mc in preference to
> > other file managers for admin work on my workstation, which does
> > run X at all times. I just don't get on with aptitude.  
> 
> aptitude can do a lot on the cli.  I don't get on with n-curses
> programs. That's not to say that you personally would like it any
> better, of course, but one doesn't have to use n-curses to use
> aptitude.
> 

Yes, I drive it cli, except for my sid installations that are rarely
upgraded: aptitude isn't really up to 500-package dependency
calculations. But elsewhere I use it in general preference to apt-get.

-- 
Joe

RE: pleasant news

[Samuel Thibault]

Hi,
I've just  read the latest news  and I was pleasantly surprised,  please  read 
it here  

Looking forward, Samuel Thibault



From: personal [mailto:perso...@carus-verlag.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:13 PM
To: phil...@sadleder.de
Subject: Roe v Wade.

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So tell the voice inside your head to believe it
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He  said he sent you  an angel
Look at  all that he  gave  you
You asked for  one  and you got two
You know I never  left you
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Just like the morning sun
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Know  you're not perfect but you're not your mistakes


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And I hear you say


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Remember who you are
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And you're still my  chosen one
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Re: Red cableada me deja sin internet

[JavierDebian]

El 19/12/16 a las 22:05, JavierDebian escribió:

El 19/12/16 a las 20:26, Luciana Coca escribió:


1- No uses switch, usá routers con balanceo de carga. Eliminá cualquier
cascada de switch. Si no podés cambiarlos a routers, armalo en forma de
estrella.

>1- Ese es uno de los problemas. He descubierto switches en cascada. El
>router proveedor de internet está conectado a un switch (de allí salen
>la mayoría de las conexiones a otras pcs y ap/routers), y ese switch
>está conectado a un router. Del router solo sale una conexión a otro
>switch.


2- ¿edificio? ¿Cuántas antenas de wifi tenés? ¿Cómo están configuradas
(punto a punto, multipunto o repetidor)?

>2- Tenemos 5 ap-routers. Yo tengo un adaptador wifi (150Mbps), pero yo
>creo que no es lo suficientemente potente. Es un edificio mediano, 
>pisos separados en dos alas. La red fue un intento de estrella, pero

>la modificaron varias veces.
>Router internet -->> Switch -->> Router -->> Ap router -->> Ap router
> -->> Switch
> -->> Ap routers (3)
> -->> Otras Pcs

Esto que me indicas, es UN DESASTRE. No se entiende la lógica. Asumo que 
en al principio quisiste poner "modem internet", y no "router".


Un esquema coherente es:

Modem --> ROUTER --> swith/router en modo switch 1 (cable y/o wifi)
L--> swith/router en modo switch 2 (cable y/o wifi)
L--> swith/router en modo switch 3 (cable y/o wifi)
L --> swith/router en modo switch .. (cable y/o wifi)


El "ROUTER", que llamo principal y administrador de red, puede ser un 
Cisco carísimo, un TP-Link convenientemente reprogramado con DD-WRT 
(http://dd-wrt.com/), o una computadora viejita con un ZeroShell 
(http://www.zeroshell.net/) o un Chilli (http://www.chillispot.org/).
De más está decir, que si te das un poco de maño, lo mismo se puede 
construir con una Debian mínima y configurando iptables.




3- Revisá que no haya conexiones duplicadas. Es decir, que dos cables
del router principal se estén conectando a dos bocas de un router wifi.

>3- No, no están así.


4- Verificá que algún vivo no está con p2p, torrent o streaming. Eso
consume ancho de banda que es una barbaridad.

>4- Voy a verificar eso.


5- Si vas a comprar nuevas antenas wifi, y a los equipos les da, buscá
transmisores de 5Ghz. A corta distancia, tienen un rendimiento mayor por
estabilidad de la señal y menor interferencia.

>5- No van a compar este tipo de equipos. A lo sumo podremos adquirir
>un par de routers y antenas inalámbricas.
>La distancia desde el router primario a mi pc, de forma directa, debe
>ser de unos 50 m.

Un cable UTP mallado te permite transmitir sin pérdida de señal hasta 
300 metros.


Si tenés que administrar un "Sitio de trabajo", utilizá cable. La wifi 
sirve para que los empleados hagan estupideces. Si no podés prohibirla, 
entonces restringila al máximo




6- Verificá interferencias. Si tenés un celular android a mano, te
recomiendo WiFiAnalyzer

>6- Estoy verificando con el Wifi Analyzer la señal en mi ofician. Es
>malísima. Voy a verificar en el resto del edificio.

Fijate cómo están las antenas, que no se interfieran entre sí, que usen 
distintos canales. Todos los AP deben tener distinto ESSID. Se puede 
hacer que tengan uno solo, pero ya hablaríamos de repetidores, los 
cuales necesitan configuraciones especiales en cada AP, y sinceramente, 
no creo que sea tu caso.





Y los tutoriales, la mayoría de Debian wiki

JAP


PD: Lo que Félix te quiere decir, es que:
1. Se contesta debajo de las preguntas.
2. No se borran los comentarios anteriores.
3. No se usa HTML de formato, codificaciones raras, etc.; sólo texto 
plano y UTF-8.


JAP

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 19 December 2016 18:58:43 Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:38:51 +0100
>
> Vincent Lefevre  wrote:
> > On 2016-12-16 18:06:26 +, Joe wrote:
> > > Do you have X running?
> >
> > Not always.
> >
> > > I use Synaptic in these situations, where it is easy to try packages
> > > to see what can be upgraded without removals I'm not willing to
> > > accept.
> >
> > But that's not automatic (aptitude can also do that, and one can
> > undo a choice if it yields removals).
>
> Difficult to see how it could be automated, as sometimes it's a value
> judgement as to whether to temporarily sacrifice application x in order
> to upgrade y immediately, or whether to wait a while. Occasionally, a
> package is removed permanently, and there's no obvious way of
> differentiating such a removal from a temporary dependency issue
> without resorting to a search engine.
>
> And I know that aptitude can do all kinds of amazing things in
> interactive mode, but I have some kind of mental block about it. I've
> tried learning it two or three times, and it seems to be just about as
> counter-intuitive to operate as anything possibly can be. I have
> nothing against curses programs, I use mc in preference to other file
> managers for admin work on my workstation, which does run X at all
> times. I just don't get on with aptitude.

aptitude can do a lot on the cli.  I don't get on with n-curses programs.  
That's not to say that you personally would like it any better, of course, 
but one doesn't have to use n-curses to use aptitude.

Lisi

Re: firefox + flashplayer on slow pc

[Pete Orrall]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:10 PM, deloptes  wrote:
> I have an older notebook with ATI. (Actually I gave it to a friend) Recently
> I updated to OS is ubuntu 16.04 from 12.x.
>
> glxgears looks good, but after installing later firefox when watching some
> YT it slows down and video breaks. even lowering quality to 360 is not very
> good.

I have the same problem on my Debian workstation running Jessie at
work.  While it's a fairly beefy desktop with a Core i7 and 16GB, it
also has an ATI video card.  I experience the same sluggish behavior
watching YouTube videos through Firefox.  Watching the same videos at
the same resolution through Chrome does not produce the same
sluggishness.  I have not yet tried Chromium.  While watching videos
in both browsers I've viewed CPU usage in top.  Firefox was chewing
away over 50% of the CPU whereas Chrome consumed 11%.

Additionally, I have a laptop and desktop at home running Wheezy and
Jessie, respectively.  Neither one uses ATI for graphics and I have no
problems with sluggishness on watching YouTube videos with Firefox.
You could try updating the driver to see if that improves performance.
Otherwise, perhaps a different browser is needed.

Hope that helps.

-- 
Pete Orrall
p...@cs1x.com
www.peteorrall.com
"If there isn't a way, I'll make one."

Re: firefox + flashplayer on slow pc

[Oleg Pykhalov]

deloptes  writes:

> I have an older notebook with ATI. (Actually I gave it to a friend) Recently
> I updated to OS is ubuntu 16.04 from 12.x.
>
> glxgears looks good, but after installing later firefox when watching some
> YT it slows down and video breaks. even lowering quality to 360 is not very
> good.
>
> I installed older version of FF and it was much better but still not good.
>
> Do you have any idea how I can improve this?
>
> thanks

I like to use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with
with mpv.

So you want to install mpv and open-with addon.

Then add an item in open-with configuration with COMMAND path to
/usr/bin/mpv

To disable massive log output in journalctl add ARGUMENTS in open-with
to mpv
--msg-level=all=no

Re: (deb-cat) Padrins pel tram?

[Alex Muntada]

Narcis Garcia:

> I m'agradaria saber si algú té referència d'un projecte (codi
> font) que es pugui explorar via web, i contingui justament
> l'essencial per ser empaquetat per Debian.

La majoria de repositoris d'empaquetament de Debian estan
disponibles a git.debian.org. Però hi ha moltes formes i
metodologies diferents per empaquetar a Debian, moltes a
més a més són específiques de cada equip o mantenidor.

Com t'he comentat fa una estona, jo provaria a demanar
ajuda a mentors.debian.net, que tenen més experiència amb
el suport a la gent que comença. Tenen llista de correu i
canal d'irc, si no recordo malament.

Salut,
Alex

Re: (deb-cat) Padrins pel tram?

[Alex Muntada]

Narcis Garcia:

> Algú té experiència en això?
> http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.intro.html#GBP.REPOSITORY

A l'equip de Debian Perl (pkg-perl) utilitzem eines pròpies que
tiren del gbp per sota, per això la meva experiència directa amb
gbp és molt limitada.

Abans de començar cal que tinguis en compte la frase següent de
l'enllaç que indicaves: «It is recommended to have the Debian
packaging on a separate branch than the upstream source».

El que vol dir és que els mantenidors de paquets de Debian solen
crear un repositori per cada paquet font en què gestionen els
canvis del directori debian, sovint ignorant del tot el que els
autors originals hi hagin posat. Per no fer-se un embolic quan
es publiquen noves versions del codi original, tenen una branca
amb la part de l'empaquetament i una altra (o vàries) amb el codi
font original.

D'aquesta manera és més fàcil fer el seguiment de les diferències
entre versions del codi original i comparar-les amb la part de
l'empaquetament. Per exemple, de vegades a Debian detectem algun
error al codi o a les pàgines del manual. El corregim i informem
l'autor original del problema (sovint amb un suggeriment de canvi
en el codi). Independentment de si l'autor accepta el canvi o no,
a Debian utilitzem la versió apedaçada per empaquetar-ho. Quan
l'autor incorpora aquest canvi en el codi original, l'empaquetador
de Debian ho detecta amb les diferències i aleshores pot eliminar
el pedaç del directori debian.

Això seria un infern de mantenir si no s'utilitzessin branques
diferents al repositori de git.

Et recomano que miris https://mentors.debian.net/ (es dediquen a
ajudar les persones que volen fer paquets i necessiten sponsors).

> Hi ha alguna eina o mètode per crear el necessari «a cegues» i que
> funcioni per arribar a empaquetar 1 simple script de forma correcta?

Oblida de moment el gbp i prova directament amb debuild des del
directori arrel del repo i et crearà el paquet al directori pare.

Salut,
Alex

Re: Red cableada me deja sin internet

[Luciana Coca]

Hola Félix!
Podrías explicarme en qué me equivoqué?
Aún no soy una usuaria asidua de la lista. Pido disculpas desde ya,
todo se aprende con la práctica.

Re: Retrouver sa configuration graphique

[Jose CHARTERS]

Le 20/12/2016 à 23:31, maderios a écrit :
> Si c'est un portable, es tu certain de ne pas avoir deux cartes
> graphiques, une intel, une nvidia? C'est le cas chez  moi concernant
> un portable vendu comme équipé seulement d'une carte nvidia.
Bonjour,

Non, ce n'est pas un portable. C'est un fixe avec une carte graphique
Nvidia.

Cordialement,

José

DESKTOP_SESSION possibly not set correctly when using Cinnamon

[Robin Grindrod]

Hi,
While trying to install a script that detects which DE is being used by
reading the DESKTOP_SESSION environment variable on a system running
Cinnamon, I noticed it is set to "lightdm-xsession". This is causing the
script to fail as it expects the value to be "cinnamon". There has been
a similar bug raised for MATE here:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775905
Is this also a bug in Cinnamon? Should I raise a bug report for it and
if so what package should the bug be on?
Thanks,
Robin

Re: firefox + flashplayer on slow pc

[Alex Mestiashvili]

On 12/20/2016 11:10 PM, deloptes wrote:
> I have an older notebook with ATI. (Actually I gave it to a friend) Recently
> I updated to OS is ubuntu 16.04 from 12.x.
> 
> glxgears looks good, but after installing later firefox when watching some
> YT it slows down and video breaks. even lowering quality to 360 is not very
> good.
> 
> I installed older version of FF and it was much better but still not good.
> 
> Do you have any idea how I can improve this?
> 
> thanks
> 

It's better to avoid flash if possible, youtube supports html5
https://www.youtube.com/html5
Try chromium, firefox is sometimes very greedy.