[solved] Re: X won't start after installing openbox

[Rodolfo Medina]

Sven Joachim  writes:

> On 2017-02-27 20:30 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> Rodolfo Medina  writes:
>>
>>> Any openbox users out there?
>>>
>>> I installed x-window-system-core and openbox but startx gives error:
>>> `unable to connect to X server: Connection refused'.  What am I missing?
>
> You need to install the firmware-amd-graphics package.  Without it the
> radeon kernel module does not work, which leads tho the following
> problem:
>
>> [38.827] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
>> [38.827] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
>
> Hence, the modesetting and radeon drivers don't work.
>
>> [38.828] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10
>> [38.829] (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read int vect
>
> And the vesa driver does not work either because it needs root rights
> which the X server does no longer have.  See
> /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/NEWS.Debian.gz.


Installing firmware-amd-graphics seems to have solved it.

Thanks,

Rodolfo

Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian

[Rodolfo Medina]

Ben Caradoc-Davies  writes:

> On 26/02/17 02:04, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> How do I check if my machine is `64 or 32 bit'
>
> I use "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'", to find the model name and
> look it up on Wikipedia or Google for the manufacturer data sheet. 64-bit
> support is often called "AMD64", or "x86-64" by non-AMD manufacturers.
>
> If the "flags" section contains "lm", your CPU has 64-bit support, but might
> be IA64 (Itanium, Intel's 64-bit server architecture) rather than AMD64
> (which Intel itself now uses). I find it easier to Google for the model as
> described above.
>
> Most consumer desktop CPUs manufactured in the last five years have amd64
> support, including, as far as I know, all Intel Core 2 Intel processors
> (since 2006), even the budget models with Pentium or Celeron branding. Some
> Atom CPUs support 64-bit, but not the earliest models.

I found it easy:

 # aptitude install lshw
 $ lshw -c cpu

and look at `width'.

Cheers,

Rodolfo

Re: Cepstral swift and Debian Stretch

[Jessica Litwin]

Is this by chance a 32 bit cepstral package for a 64 bit system that
doesn't have 32 bit libs installed?

On Feb 27, 2017 19:03, "Chuck Hallenbeck"  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm attempting to install a tommercial TTS from Cepstral on my Debian
> Stretch system, and get the following when running swift:
>
> /usr/local/bin/swift: 12: exec: /opt/swift/bin/swift.bin: Exec format
> error
>
> My system dual-boots Debian Stretch and Arch Linux, and the same
> Cepstral executable, swift, runs without error on Arch, but fails with
> the above error on Debian, same hardware for both of course.
>
> Cepstral support was unable to help, except to say other users run it
> on Debian, Ubuntu, and even (gasp) Raspberry Pie.
>
> Anybody seen this? or have a suggestion? or use it successfully?
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
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Problemas con el Package exim4

[Yair De la cruz]

Buenas Noches Comunidad
Desde hace ya unas semanas me esta saliendo este error cada vez que hago
apt-get upgrade

root@debian:/home/elisur/Downloads# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  iceweasel
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Setting up exim4-daemon-light (4.84.2-2+deb8u3) ...
Job for exim4.service failed. See 'systemctl status exim4.service' and
'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript exim4, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package exim4-daemon-light (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4:
 exim4 depends on exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy |
exim4-daemon-custom; however:
  Package exim4-daemon-light is not configured yet.
  Package exim4-daemon-heavy is not installed.
  Package exim4-daemon-custom is not installed.

dpkg: error processing package exim4 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 exim4-daemon-light
 exim4
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@debian:/home/elisur/Downloads# apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up exim4-daemon-light (4.84.2-2+deb8u3) ...
Job for exim4.service failed. See 'systemctl status exim4.service' and
'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript exim4, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package exim4-daemon-light (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4:
 exim4 depends on exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy |
exim4-daemon-custom; however:
  Package exim4-daemon-light is not configured yet.
  Package exim4-daemon-heavy is not installed.
  Package exim4-daemon-custom is not installed.

dpkg: error processing package exim4 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 exim4-daemon-light
 exim4
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Que estara pasando alli??? Alguien tendra laguna idea al respecto???

Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[John Conover]

Richard Owlett writes:
> >
> >> A little research indicates that Tcl/Tk plays well with sqlite. A
> >> couple of years ago I started learning it for a now abandoned
> >> project. I'll follow up on that combo.
> >
> > Funny that you mention that: Sqlite's main author, D. Richard Hipp
> > has been also involved in Tcl/Tk development and there are many cross-
> > ties between both projects (Sqlite's (excellent) test suite is written
> > in Tcl, Tcl's repository is Fossil, written by... D. Richard Hipp,
> > and so on). They make for a strong team.
>

Years ago, I used shsql-antagonize the Google for it-which is an SQL
database implemented with the Unix text utilities as a shell script;
DBs are tab delimited flat text files. Good for light database needs,
(joins are a little slow,) and still seems supported.

John

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Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Richard Owlett]

On 02/27/2017 06:06 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

On 28/02/17 02:17, Richard Owlett wrote:

The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using
dBaseII on a MS-DOS machine.
What is a functional equivalent in the Debian repository?
I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.
https://packages.debian.org/stable/database/ was not useful as it
doesn't categorize the list.
Suggestions?
TIA


You can make minimal use of PostgreSQL. Easy to install and configure on
Debian. Robust and runs well unattended. Thoroughly documented. Check
out pgAdmin, which can administer and manage your database. It includes
a table editor.

It sounds to me like you want a configurable CRUD front-end. Do you
want a web interface?


Hadn't run into that acronym before, had to look it up. But is what I 
want. Don't need a web interface. And to answer someone else, it will be 
strictly single user, everything resides on my laptop.

Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 02/27/2017 02:46 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:46:16AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

[...]


A little research indicates that Tcl/Tk plays well with sqlite. A
couple of years ago I started learning it for a now abandoned
project. I'll follow up on that combo.


Funny that you mention that: Sqlite's main author, D. Richard Hipp
has been also involved in Tcl/Tk development and there are many cross-
ties between both projects (Sqlite's (excellent) test suite is written
in Tcl, Tcl's repository is Fossil, written by... D. Richard Hipp,
and so on). They make for a strong team.


 What you quoted was my paraphrase of http://wiki.tcl.tk/2633 .


Recommended reading:

  
https://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2004/Presentations/D.RichardHipp/slides/slides-all.html


Only got a chance for a brief look. I like!



TclTk is my favoured machinery when I want to crank out small GUIs.
Gets a bit to get the hang of it. Your mentioned wiki.tcl.tk (and the
Usenet (yes!) group comp.lang.tcl) are very good resources.

Regards
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Re: apache2 security update

[davidson]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, Dr. John A. Zoidberg MD wrote:


This post concerns:

Debian Security Advisory DSA-3796-1 (appended below)

The package involved is apache2.

I have two "live" internet webservers, one an uptodate jessie, the
other a long-maintained wheezy. The jessie machine upgraded easily
to the new apache2 packages, but apt on my wheezy does not find any
to install.

This line is in my sources.list:

http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

The above-noted Advisory (see below) only mentions new apache2
security upgrades for jessie, stretch and sid. May I safely assume
that in fact there is no update to be applied for apache2 running in
wheezy?


OP might find the long thread on the debian-lts mailing list that
begins here informative (though I have not read it myself):

 Wheezy update of apache2?
 https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2016/12/msg00142.html

Hope this helps.

Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 27 February 2017 19:59:17 sunrise wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 10:46:16 -0600
>
> Richard Owlett  wrote:
> >On 02/27/2017 09:44 AM, Joe wrote:
> >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:53:30 -0600
> >>
> >> Richard Owlett  wrote:
> >>> On 02/27/2017 07:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>  LibreOffice Base is, AFAIK *not* a relational database, but just
>  a -possibly graphical- user interface to one. Relational databases,
>  as I know them, have no "fonts", for example.
> >>>
> >>> I didn't claim it was ;/
> >>> I looked at it as it was install by default when I chose MATE as my
> >>> DE. The "font problem" was that I could not force its "help system"
> >>> to use a legible font size. Not being able to read its "help", I have
> >>> ABSOLUTELY NO idea of what capability it does/doesn't supply.
> >>
> >> It's sort of functionally nearly equivalent to MS Access on Windows 3
> >> i.e. 1992-ish.
> >
> >I had forgotten about MS Access, probably 'cause the less I think about
> >that employer the better. It was later than dBaseII but aimed pretty
> >much at the same market. Having used dBaseII was considered "qualifying
> >experience" for the job.
> >
> >> It's slow and as buggy as hell. It can't handle update
> >> queries. I think it still needs Java for reporting. Apart from that,
> >> it's about the quickest way to assemble an ad-hoc database
> >> application.
> >> Free, that is, there are probably better commercial products. I use it
> >> for this reason, but also that it is cross-platform, you can literally
> >> take a Base file from a Linux machine and run it on a Windows machine,
> >> and vice versa (for close-numbered versions of LO).
> >>
> >> But a lot depends on what you want to do. Only you know your actual
> >> database needs. LO Base can use an internal database file or pretty
> >> much any client-server database or other ODBC server. For making user
> >> applications, it's worth considering.
> >
> >Not if it throws barriers between me ant its documentation.
>
> In LibreOffice Help, try scrolling with the mouse wheel while holding
> 'Ctrl'; on my system the font size can be increased and decreased across a
> wide range.

The topics, but not the index.

Lisi

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 27 February 2017 13:17:56 Richard Owlett wrote:
> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.

You prompted me to look.  As you say, it is unusable and ctrl-+ has no effect 
at all.  It is clearly illegal under UK Law (Equality Act 2010), but that is 
not much help!!

Have you tried the online help at the Libre Office site?  
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
That is often very good - and the font size can be governed by your browser.

Lisi

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 27 February 2017 13:28:44 Christian Seiler wrote:
> often [Ctrl] + [+] will help
> increase font sizes.

Not in this case.

Lisi

Re: Ralink 802.11n Wireless LAN Card (RT2870)

[AlexLikeRock]

revisa  que este  funcionando y bien configurado
   NETWORKING  y  NETWORK MANAGER  ,
 o en  su defecto WICD,

 te da ping   ??
que errores te da en terminal cuando levantas los servicios ?






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Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 28/02/17 02:17, Richard Owlett wrote:

The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using
dBaseII on a MS-DOS machine.
What is a functional equivalent in the Debian repository?
I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.
https://packages.debian.org/stable/database/ was not useful as it
doesn't categorize the list.
Suggestions?
TIA


You can make minimal use of PostgreSQL. Easy to install and configure on 
Debian. Robust and runs well unattended. Thoroughly documented. Check 
out pgAdmin, which can administer and manage your database. It includes 
a table editor.


It sounds to me like you want a configurable CRUD front-end. Do you want 
a web interface?


Kind regards,

--
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Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Cepstral swift and Debian Stretch

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Hi everyone, 

I'm attempting to install a tommercial TTS from Cepstral on my Debian
Stretch system, and get the following when running swift:

/usr/local/bin/swift: 12: exec: /opt/swift/bin/swift.bin: Exec format
error

My system dual-boots Debian Stretch and Arch Linux, and the same
Cepstral executable, swift, runs without error on Arch, but fails with
the above error on Debian, same hardware for both of course.

Cepstral support was unable to help, except to say other users run it
on Debian, Ubuntu, and even (gasp) Raspberry Pie. 

Anybody seen this? or have a suggestion? or use it successfully?

Chuck





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   Conditions Mostly Cloudy
The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full)

Ralink 802.11n Wireless LAN Card (RT2870)

[Maikel Enrique Pernía Matos]

Colegas:

Buenas tardes, tengo una WI-FI (Ralink 802.11n Wireless LAN Card) 
que no he podido utilizar en mi Jessie, hice una búsqueda en 
la WEB y recomiendan no solo instalar el «firmware» además se 
debe añadir a «lista negra» unos módulos del kernel como se 
muestra a continuación:

 apt-get install firmware-ralink wireless-tools network-manager

 cd /etc/modprobe.d
 echo "blacklist rt2800lib" > rt2800lib.conf
 echo "blacklist rt2800pci" > rt2800pci.conf
 echo "blacklist rt2800usb" > rt2800usb.conf
 echo "blacklist rt2x00lib" > rt2x00lib.conf
 echo "blacklist rt2x00pci" > rt2x00pci.conf
 echo "blacklist rt2x00usb" > rt2x00usb.conf
 echo "blacklist rt61pci" > rt61pci.conf
 echo "blacklist rt2800usb" > rt2800usb.conf


¿Alguna idea de que estoy haciendo mal o que falta por hacer para
que funcione la WI-FI?

Saludos,
Maikel


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Re: ssh naar Linux computer achter "router"

[Richard Lucassen]

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:00:12 +0100
Geert Stappers  wrote:

>   B --- M === A
> 
> Wat bestaat er aan Debian packages voor zulke situaties?

Zet bij jou een OpenVPN server neer en laat de client er naartoe
connecten. Dan heb je een volledige verbinding, alsof die remote comp
in jouw netwerk staat. En als je een dynamisch ip hebt kun je de server
op "float" zetten, dan volgt-ie de client zonder problemen.

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http://contact.xaq.nl/

Re: apache2 security update

[Dr. John A. Zoidberg MD]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, Dan Ritter wrote:

No, the version in wheezy is probably also affected. However, 
wheezy is now supported by the Long Term Support project, and 
you need to make changes to get those packages.



https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using


THANK YOU!

I'm trying desperately to get out of the "live internet server" 
business. Obviously I no longer have any business being out 
there.



--
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Amphibian and Marine
Parasitology and Infectious Diseases

Re: X won't start after installing openbox

[Michael Biebl]

Am 27.02.2017 um 22:00 schrieb Sven Joachim:
>> [38.828] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10
>> [38.829] (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read int vect
> 
> And the vesa driver does not work either because it needs root rights
> which the X server does no longer have.  See
> /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/NEWS.Debian.gz.

If you have a no KMS capable driver, you can install xserver-xorg-legacy.


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Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[David Wright]

On Mon 27 Feb 2017 at 11:13:00 (+), GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> testingAmd64LXDE
> 
> I have never, not once, been able to run synaptic in any similar system
> without a root or a sudo password.  Not to execute a command, just to
> get the gui up you need a password.

Why would that be? You should be able to do so. There's a popup
window that says this:

  Starting "Synaptic Package Manager" without administrative privileges

  You will not be able to apply any changes, but you can still export
  the marked changes or create a download script for them.

I can select packages, look at their properties, dependencies,
installed files, get changelogs etc. I can edit some of the
preferences. I can see the immediate effects of that in files
like ~/.synaptic/synaptic.conf when I click OK. I can select
packages for installation and it will write a little script
for me:

 #!/bin/sh
 wget -c
 
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/i/ibm-3270/3270-common_3.3.14ga11-1_i386.deb

So it suggests that the OP has set something in their system
to cause the behaviour they observe, both the popup and the
fact that a user's password is sufficient for installing software.

I can run (the similar program) aptitude likewise. The main differences
with synaptic are that aptitude is in the user's normal PATH (whereas
synaptic is in /usr/sbin); when you try to install, it asks you to
consider becoming root from the Actions menu; and if you persist, it
gives you the option to become root in a dialog box, and you can then
type the root password.

> I don't know whether creating a user with 100% admin privileges will
> still require a pass or not, I suspect it would still.  As if you add a
> user in the sudo group it is the user's pass that is asked.  So
> something is wrong on your specific installation.
> 
> Hans:
> > Am Montag, 27. Februar 2017, 21:00:15 CET schrieb Davor Balder:
> >> Hi Hans,
> >>
> >> Question 1 which one: stable, testing or unstable?
> > 
> > testing/amd64
> >>
> >> Generally (to aid in your investigation):
> >>
> > I did, but found nothing unusual. 
> > 
> > If no one can confirm this, it is a problem on my system!

Cheers,
David.

Re: Res: OFF Topic Roteadores Net distribuindo SSID "fantasma"

[Helio Loureiro]

Se não me engano essa questão de usar o modem na residência do usuário como
acess point da operadora foi questionado na ANATEL antes de ser colocado em
prática.  E ela deu ok.

Mas nada impede de vc colocar papel aluminio em volta do modem...

./helio

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On Feb 27, 2017 17:20, "Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA" 
wrote:

> Le lun. 27 févr. 2017 à 13:05, jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br a écrit :
>
>>
>> A parte técnica eh a degradação do link com um hipotético número de
>> conexões "alheias" ao contratante do serviço. Uma conexão de 5mbps pode não
>> impactar, mas se o contratante ficar ao alcance de uma praça em uma avenida
>> de grande movimento, são N x 5mbps, e isso sim pode impactar.
>>
>
> Esse ‘n’ é relativamente baixo, mas seria bom saber quanto.
>
>
> Isso tudo assumindo que a operadora consegue isolar, separar e proteger a
>> rede interna e externa.
>>
>
> Teoricamente consegue, mas sabemos que o histórico e a natureza dos
> sistemas proprietários não anima, para não falar da própria complexidade da
> tarefa.
>
>
> E a parte moral eh a operadora se utilizar da estrutura física do
>> contratante bem como o consumo de energia elétrica
>>
>
> Talvez esse fosse um ângulo passível de questionamento judicial, se
> conseguirmos medir esse consumo adicional pela rede extra.
>
>
> e apropriação da localização para deixar de investir em infraestrutura de
>> antenas próprias em locais próprios para criar uma malha  de alcance do
>> serviço que agrega valor a sua marca, sem oferecer nada em troca ao
>> contratante, nem ao menos perguntar se ele concorda com isso. Algo que já
>> vi em empresas que oferecem serviço de conexão via rádio em bairros: cada
>> casa com serviço instalado se transforma em uma ponte para futuros
>> clientes. Eh diferente, mas o modelo de negócio eh o mesmo: aumentar
>> estrutura sem investir um tostão sequer.
>>
>
> A diferença aí é que no caso de rádio eu, particularmente, não me
> importaria se isso estivesse num contrato, visto que me atrai a idéia de
> redes, digamos, mutualizadas — para não usar o estrangeirismo /mesh/, que
> me parece redundante com ‘rede’.  Mas, estando num contrato ou não, eu não
> esperaria que compartilhassem sem fio minha conexão cabeada, e sem
> benefício aparente para mim.
>
>
> O modem eh propriedade da operadora, e sem permissão dela, vc não pode
>> modifica-lo. Resta então ler o contrato, e decidir uma ação judicial. Ou
>> mais rapidamente,  você pode coloca-lo em uma sala blindada caso discorde
>> do uso da wifi por outras pessoas. Ou em uma caixa de papelão coberta com
>> papel alumínio. :D
>>
>
> Deve ter um projeto por aí com um vídeo e tudo…
>
>
>
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Re: OFF Topic Roteadores Net distribuindo SSID "fantasma"

[Helio Loureiro]

As tecnologias de acesso na última milha por cabeamento são cabo coaxial,
par trançado de cobre e fibra ótica.

./helio

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On Feb 27, 2017 16:16, "Márcio Pedroso"  wrote:

> O que tu quer dizer com a rede por cabo? Fala dos cabos que levam sinal da
> net?
> Em dom, 26 de fev de 2017 às 20:34, Helio Loureiro 
> escreveu:
>
>> Rede por cabo não é 100 Mbps.  Vai até 250 Mbps se não me engano.  Talvez
>> as tecnologias mais novas cheguem em valores até mais altos. Eles fecham o
>> rádio numa rede separada e realmente não afeta a sua navegação ou tráfego.
>>
>> Como o modem é por comodato, ele efetivamente não é seu.  Apesar de
>> esquisito, não é algo que afeta sua privacidade ou sua navegação.
>>
>> Mas se achar que não é o caso, que está sim tendo sua privacidade
>> invadida, então é abrir uma reclamação na ANATEL.  Não vai mudar nada, mas
>> a ANATEL deve ter fornecer mais informações de como funciona.
>>
>> ./Helio
>>
>> -= sent via Android =-
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 19:03, "Henrique Fagundes" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Isso resolve-se fácil:
>>
>> Basta comprar um modem a parte! Um DLINK ou TPLINK e pronto!
>>
>>
>> Atenciosamente,
>>
>> Henrique Fagundes
>> henri...@linuxadmin.com.br
>> Skype: magnata-br-rj
>> Linux User: 475399
>>
>> http://www.aprendendolinux.com/
>> http://www.facebook.com/PortalAprendendoLinux
>> http://youtube.com/aprendendolinux/
>> http://twitter.com/aprendendolinux/
>> __
>> Participe do Grupo Aprendendo Linux
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/portal-aprendendo-linux
>>
>> Ou envie um e-mail para:
>> portal-aprendendo-linux+subscr...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Em 24/02/2017 14:16, Márcio Pedroso escreveu:
>>
>> no treinamento da net, falam que nao influi na velocidade de navegaçao.
>> no quesito segurança nao me atrevo a entrar em maiores detalhes por
>> falta de conhecimento, mas pesa muito tambem a qualidade do firewall que
>> tu tem que fazer para a privacidade dos dados. o que eu posso fazer é
>> perguntar para um amigo que trabalha no headend da net para fazer essas
>> perguntas se alguem tiver alguma curiosidade ou duvida a acresentar eu
>> aguardo as perguntas de vcs
>>
>>
>> Em 24 de fevereiro de 2017 14:05, Paulino Kenji Sato > > escreveu:
>>
>>
>> Ola,
>> Outro dia a net literalmente cortou a minha internet (se e que se
>> pode chamar 1mbps de internet). Como de vez em quando aparece uma
>> rede aberta na proximidades, resolvi ir até a janela e ver as redes
>> pelo smartphone. E apareceu esse rede #NET-WIFI, tentei conectar, o
>> captive portal pediu o login e senha. Coloco as minhas credenciais,
>> mas retorna que somente clientes com mais de 5mbps podem utilizar.
>>
>> Como já disseram o ​DOCSIS controla essa rede adicional, existirão
>> duas ou mais end-points no modem, uma para cada rede disponível. Até
>> o modem e portas ethernet não vejo problemas sérios, já que as
>> portas podem estar fisicamente isoladas (não um switch).
>> O problema esta no WiFi, a não ser que o modem tenha dois rádios
>> (para a mesma banda), o wifi vai estar compartilhando o mesmo canal
>> de comunicação, usando multiplos essid. A banda do canal wifi vai
>> estar sendo compartilhada com essa rede #NET-WIFI. Além de problemas
>> de segurança.
>> Recomendação que faço e não conectem nada diretamente ao modem, seja
>> a tecnologia que for, coloquem equipamentos em que confia fazendo o
>> compartilhamento da Internet.
>>
>> E também, tem a rede da IPTV, ou seja la como a NET chama.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> linux user nº 432194
>>
>> Eu sou livre e você?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
> linux user nº 432194
>
> Eu sou livre e você?
>

Re: X won't start after installing openbox

[Sven Joachim]

On 2017-02-27 20:30 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Rodolfo Medina  writes:
>
>> Any openbox users out there?
>>
>> I installed x-window-system-core and openbox but startx gives error: `unable
>> to connect to X server: Connection refused'.  What am I missing?

You need to install the firmware-amd-graphics package.  Without it the
radeon kernel module does not work, which leads tho the following
problem:

> [38.827] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
> [38.827] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory

Hence, the modesetting and radeon drivers don't work.

> [38.828] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10
> [38.829] (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read int vect

And the vesa driver does not work either because it needs root rights
which the X server does no longer have.  See
/usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/NEWS.Debian.gz.

Cheers,
   Sven

Re: problème débogage systemd à l'extinction système

[Alexandre Hoïde]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 05:54:54PM +0100, JB wrote:
> Bonsoir,
  Bonsoir JB et merci pour ta réponse,

> /sbin/shutdown est un lien vers /bin/systemctl,
> man systemctl
  Oui, et d'ailleurs j'utilise :
  $ systemctl poweroff|reboot

> vers la fin on trouve desméthodes d'arret
> personnellement, je devrais attendre 15'
>
> j'ai contourné le pb avec reboot 
> dés l'extintion du clavier, power off de l'ordinateur
  De mon côté, si je veux contourner le problème, j'utilise :
  $ sudo poweroff|reboot -f
  ou encore :
  $ sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service 

> essayer: trace shutdown et le bon paramètre
> avant de rebooter, gdb bt
> ou mise oeuvre de kdump
  Il me semble que pour utiliser un de ces outils (et comprendre un peu
ce qu'on fait), il faut manger pas mal de docs. Je ne suis pas hyper
motivé, sachant que je n'en aurais pas beaucoup l'usage.

> je n'utilise pas votre méthode d'analyse,
> sous réserve la taille de 1M me parait juste
  C'est déjà ça ! ^^

  … toujours preneur pour un débogage de la méthode de débogage de
  freedesktop.org, donc :)
> 

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Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[GiaThnYgeia]

Copied from a friend that dealt with such antiquities

> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 10:46:16 -0600
> Richard Owlett  wrote:
>> On 02/27/2017 09:44 AM, Joe wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:53:30 -0600
>>> Richard Owlett  wrote:
 On 02/27/2017 07:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> LibreOffice Base is, AFAIK *not* a relational database, but just
> a -possibly graphical- user interface to one. Relational databases,
> as I know them, have no "fonts", for example.
 I didn't claim it was ;/
 I looked at it as it was install by default when I chose MATE as my
 DE. The "font problem" was that I could not force its "help system"
 to use a legible font size. Not being able to read its "help", I have
 ABSOLUTELY NO idea of what capability it does/doesn't supply.
>>> It's sort of functionally nearly equivalent to MS Access on Windows 3
>>> i.e. 1992-ish.
>> I had forgotten about MS Access, probably 'cause the less I think about 
>> that employer the better. It was later than dBaseII but aimed pretty 
>> much at the same market. Having used dBaseII was considered "qualifying 
>> experience" for the job.

Back around and before that time I use to play around with dbases using
.csv files
Then at a job they had huge datasets acquired that we only needed
tables/statistics or small portions of this data.  At that time the
equipment at work were XT-at-DX-DX2   while at school we worked on
DEC-mainframes and some early SUN and SGI workstations.
After I convinced them to make an exception to the isolation rule and
hand me a modem so I can submit data to be cranched elsewhere and
processed by SPSS I could take the day off and get 10hrs of work done in
30' which unless I was paid for 10 I wouldn't do.
So finally they got me the first 386 in the building with windows and
Alpha4 to process all the dbf files.  Alpha4 on DOS worked a zillion
times faster than Excell which had to use video memmory to show the
dataset and that took for ages to do.  I had the only PC that had
windows and insisted in running on DOS.  Out of romantic memory interest
if I found a copy of Alpha4 today I would get it.  Down the street a
collaborating organization run SGI workstations and early SQL, that was
fun visiting like geeks at the MS people.
Then Access came out and I QUIT!!
Eventually both SPSS and SAS moved to sell MS windows products and if
they are not dead they deserve to.
But there is no such thing as fully relational database, it is all
partial.  Anything that is not SQL based today is just as competitive as
cavemen would be against drones.
Even LibOffice can import .csv and .dbf files and make a more effective
database and data handling.  It all has to do with sizes.  GIS systems
and I am sure certain nosuchagencies may be using the most complex and
efficient dbase systems, but files of a few megabytes can be handled by
loffice

>>> It's slow and as buggy as hell. It can't handle update
>>> queries. I think it still needs Java for reporting. Apart from that,
>>> it's about the quickest way to assemble an ad-hoc database
>>> application.
>>> Free, that is, there are probably better commercial products. I use it
>>> for this reason, but also that it is cross-platform, you can literally
>>> take a Base file from a Linux machine and run it on a Windows machine,
>>> and vice versa (for close-numbered versions of LO).
>>> But a lot depends on what you want to do. Only you know your actual
>>> database needs. LO Base can use an internal database file or pretty
>>> much any client-server database or other ODBC server. For making user
>>> applications, it's worth considering.
>> Not if it throws barriers between me ant its documentation.

The bottom line is, if you worked with datasets back then, where a
spreadsheet was an ascii comma delimited file, and related several of
them into one system you can learn mySql in a 10th of the time it would
take a non-mathematician to learn.

-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[tomas]

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:46:16AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

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> A little research indicates that Tcl/Tk plays well with sqlite. A
> couple of years ago I started learning it for a now abandoned
> project. I'll follow up on that combo.

Funny that you mention that: Sqlite's main author, D. Richard Hipp
has been also involved in Tcl/Tk development and there are many cross-
ties between both projects (Sqlite's (excellent) test suite is written
in Tcl, Tcl's repository is Fossil, written by... D. Richard Hipp,
and so on). They make for a strong team.

Recommended reading:

  
https://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2004/Presentations/D.RichardHipp/slides/slides-all.html

TclTk is my favoured machinery when I want to crank out small GUIs.
Gets a bit to get the hang of it. Your mentioned wiki.tcl.tk (and the
Usenet (yes!) group comp.lang.tcl) are very good resources.

Regards
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Re: problème débogage systemd à l'extinction système

[Alexandre Hoïde]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 05:25:41PM +0100, maderios wrote:
> On 02/27/2017 02:11 PM, Alexandre Hoïde wrote:
> >   Chères colistières, chers colistiers,
> > 
> >   Je me tourne vers vous dans l'espoir qu'une lumière jaillira de vos
> > entrailles, éclairant ma voie vers la résolution d'un problème qui
> > commence à me les briser.
> >   Le problème initial est une délai de 1'30'' à l'extinction
> > [poweroff|reboot] du système, avec les messages systemd :
> > [***]  A stop job is running for ifup for enp4s0 …
> > [***]  A stop job is running for Raise network interfaces …
> Bonjour
> Ce problème  a été réglé par des utilisateurs en changeant de noyau.
> Tu peux essayer de booter sur un noyau Stretch
> Sid sera toujours Sid... :)
> 

  Salut Madeiros et merci pour ta réponse,

  Malheureusement, sur ma Sid, le délai à l'extinction résiste depuis de
longs mois, avec ses nombreuses versions du noyau, de systemd et de tout
ce qui va avec… y compris le noyau 4.9.0-1 (actuellement sur Stretch et
4.9.0-2 sur Sid).
  Et à ce propos, sur ce même PC, j'ai une Stretch à jour qui ne pose
pas ce problème de délai à l'extinction, avec une configuration réseau
identique : ifupdown et interfaces déclarées de la même manière dans
/etc/network/interfaces[.d/] + Network-Manager installé/activé mais
que je n'utilise ni pour configurer ni pour changer d'interface
(ethernet/wifi).
  Je prendrais volontiers toute autre suggestion pour régler le problème
initial, bien que la question qui me taraude, dans l'immédiat, est de
savoir pourquoi la procédure de debug proposée par freedesktop.org ne
fonctionne pas.
  
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Re: Correos.es i fonts incrustades en documents

[Narcis Garcia]

Jo havia intentat fer PDFs a partir de LaTeX i sempre m'he topat amb
problemes de format i compatibilitat dels fitxers finals, per exemple
amb impressores especialitzades.
En últim extrem passava de LaTeX a mapa de bits (PNG) i creava un PDF
sense tipografies ni res a partir del(s) mapa de bits (amb Ghostscript,
Imagemagick o el què sigui).



__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at this list's archives. Mailing lists service
administrator should fix this.
El 27/02/17 a les 20:19, Robert Marsellés ha escrit:
> Hola,
> 
> On 26/02/17 11:39, Robert Marsellés wrote:
>>
>> Escric per si algú s'ha trobat amb aquest problema i sap com sortir-se'n.
>>
> 
> Gràcies a tots per les propostes. Ara la feinada de sempre, anar provant
> fins que s'encerti. El missatge avisant-los que el seu sistema falla per
> algun lloc o altre ja el vaig enviar ahir.
> 
>> 2. La web de /Correos.es/ permet fer-ho sense tenir que anar a les seves
>> finestretes. Els requisits són registrar-se com a usuari i que els
>> documents tinguin fonts vàlides "o" incrustades [2, 3].
>>
>> 3. He redactat la carta amb LaTeX.
>>
> 
> Per cert Narcís, no és que hagi incrustat les fonts perquè ho
> demanessin. El sistema LaTeX que uso (Debian package "texlive" tal com
> raja sense tunejar) les incrusta sempre per defecte quan li dius que
> processi el fitxer font a PDF. Si de cas hauria de mirar les opcions per
> evitar que ho faci per defecte.
> 
>> 4. Les propietats del document mostrades usant l'Evince des de un SO
>> Linux i l'Adobe Acrobat Reader DC des de un SO Win7 indiquen que el
>> document final està en el format PDF de versió 1.5 i totes les fonts
>> estan incrustades.
>>
> 
> Passa el mateix amb la versió PDF. El document que surt per defecte al
> llençar LaTeX és un PDF (v1.5) de la mateixa manera que fa temps era la
> versió 1.4. També haig de buscar les opcions perquè ho faci en la versió
> que interessi.
> 
> 
>> --> Problema:
>>
>> El sistema de transferència de la pàgina web de /Correos.es/ revisa el
>> document, troba quelcom que no li agrada i mai l'acaba "pujant". Cap
>> altra informació.
>>
>> M'ensumo que té a veure amb que les fonts usades (LModern) no són les
>> oficials de Windows o Adobe (Arial, Calibri, Times New Roman, ...)
>> encara que estiguin incrustades. Algú s'hi ha trobat?
>>
> 
> Potser no. Veure següent punt.
> 
>> Crec que la manera més eficient d'acabar-ho és agafant un ordinador amb
>> Win i fer-ho amb Word però, excuseu-me, em dona pel sac. Alguna
>> alternativa a banda d'enviar-los un missatge dient-los que estan
>> confonent i fent perdre el temps a la gent?
>>
> 
> Per cert, això tampoc funciona. Provat també ahir. Document fet amb Word
> i fonts New Times Roman i guardat en format PDF. Mateix problema.
> Exactament igual.
> 
> Podria ser culpa del navegador? O de la pàgina web (depèn de com és
> miri). És a dir, que quan la pàgina web ha de treballar amb un navegador
> que no és pel que han fet el disseny de la pàgina doni problemes?
> 
> En alguna ocasió he llegit que hi ha alguna mena d'incompatibilitat i
> segons com n'hi ha prou amb canviar el nom del navegador que veu la
> pàgina web. És diu canviar l'àgent? Crec que és quelcom que s'instal·la
> al navegador ("plugin") i permet canviar el nom que veu l'altra part.
> 
> Agraït novament,
> 
> Salut,
> 
> robert
> 

Re: X won't start after installing openbox

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina  writes:

> Any openbox users out there?
>
> I installed x-window-system-core and openbox but startx gives error: `unable
> to connect to X server: Connection refused'.  What am I missing?


...I'm attaching ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log:

[38.808] 
X.Org X Server 1.19.1
Release Date: 2017-01-11
[38.808] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[38.808] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
[38.808] Current Operating System: Linux lenovo 4.9.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 
4.9.10-1 (2017-02-17) x86_64
[38.808] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-2-amd64 
root=UUID=8032d960-b5f9-4096-8297-7bcb689f2e50 ro quiet
[38.808] Build Date: 20 January 2017  02:50:48AM
[38.809] xorg-server 2:1.19.1-4 (https://www.debian.org/support) 
[38.809] Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
[38.809]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[38.809] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[38.810] (==) Log file: "/home/rodolfo/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log", Time: 
Mon Feb 27 19:27:45 2017
[38.810] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[38.810] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[38.810] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[38.810] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[38.810] (**) |   |-->Monitor ""
[38.811] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[38.811] (==) Automatically adding devices
[38.811] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[38.811] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[38.811] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f
[38.811] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[38.811]Entry deleted from font path.
[38.811] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
built-ins
[38.811] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[38.811] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input 
devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.
[38.811] (II) Loader magic: 0x5609bef5be00
[38.811] (II) Module ABI versions:
[38.811]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[38.811]X.Org Video Driver: 23.0
[38.811]X.Org XInput driver : 24.1
[38.811]X.Org Server Extension : 10.0
[38.812] (++) using VT number 1

[38.815] (II) systemd-logind: took control of session 
/org/freedesktop/login1/session/_31
[38.817] (--) PCI:*(0:0:1:0) 1002:9851:17aa:369a rev 64, Mem @ 
0xc000/268435456, 0xd000/8388608, 0xfea0/262144, I/O @ 
0xf000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072
[38.817] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[38.818] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[38.820] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[38.820]compiled for 1.19.1, module version = 1.0.0
[38.820]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0
[38.820] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 0
[38.820] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 1
[38.820] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2
[38.820] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 3
[38.820] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[38.820] (II) LoadModule: "ati"
[38.820] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
[38.820] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[38.820]compiled for 1.19.0, module version = 7.8.0
[38.820]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[38.820]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0
[38.820] (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
[38.821] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
[38.821] (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[38.821]compiled for 1.19.0, module version = 7.8.0
[38.821]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[38.821]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0
[38.821] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[38.821] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[38.821] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[38.821]compiled for 1.19.1, module version = 1.19.1
[38.821]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[38.821]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0
[38.821] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[38.821] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[38.822] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[38.822]compiled for 1.19.0, module version = 

Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[sunrise]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 10:46:16 -0600
Richard Owlett  wrote:

>On 02/27/2017 09:44 AM, Joe wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:53:30 -0600
>> Richard Owlett  wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/27/2017 07:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>>

 LibreOffice Base is, AFAIK *not* a relational database, but just
 a -possibly graphical- user interface to one. Relational databases,
 as I know them, have no "fonts", for example.
>>>
>>> I didn't claim it was ;/
>>> I looked at it as it was install by default when I chose MATE as my
>>> DE. The "font problem" was that I could not force its "help system"
>>> to use a legible font size. Not being able to read its "help", I have
>>> ABSOLUTELY NO idea of what capability it does/doesn't supply.
>>>
>>
>> It's sort of functionally nearly equivalent to MS Access on Windows 3
>> i.e. 1992-ish.
>
>I had forgotten about MS Access, probably 'cause the less I think about 
>that employer the better. It was later than dBaseII but aimed pretty 
>much at the same market. Having used dBaseII was considered "qualifying 
>experience" for the job.
>
>> It's slow and as buggy as hell. It can't handle update
>> queries. I think it still needs Java for reporting. Apart from that,
>> it's about the quickest way to assemble an ad-hoc database
>> application.
>> Free, that is, there are probably better commercial products. I use it
>> for this reason, but also that it is cross-platform, you can literally
>> take a Base file from a Linux machine and run it on a Windows machine,
>> and vice versa (for close-numbered versions of LO).
>>
>> But a lot depends on what you want to do. Only you know your actual
>> database needs. LO Base can use an internal database file or pretty
>> much any client-server database or other ODBC server. For making user
>> applications, it's worth considering.
>
>Not if it throws barriers between me ant its documentation.

In LibreOffice Help, try scrolling with the mouse wheel while holding 'Ctrl'; 
on my
system the font size can be increased and decreased across a wide range.

Re: apache2 security update

[Dan Ritter]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:48:46PM -0500, Dr. John A. Zoidberg MD wrote:
> This post concerns:
> 
> Debian Security Advisory DSA-3796-1 (appended below)
> 
> The package involved is apache2.
> 
> I have two "live" internet webservers, one an uptodate jessie, the other a
> long-maintained wheezy. The jessie machine upgraded easily to the new
> apache2 packages, but apt on my wheezy does not find any to install.
> 
> This line is in my sources.list:
> 
> http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
> 
> The above-noted Advisory (see below) only mentions new apache2 security
> upgrades for jessie, stretch and sid. May I safely assume that in fact there
> is no update to be applied for apache2 running in wheezy?
> 

No, the version in wheezy is probably also affected. However,
wheezy is now supported by the Long Term Support project, and
you need to make changes to get those packages.

 https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using

LTS has very limited resources.

You should consider upgrading to jessie.

-dsr-

Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[maderios]

On 02/27/2017 06:41 PM, VieuxGeek DuSystem wrote:

Demande à ton system :-)

aptitude why network-manager


Je n'utilise pas cet horrible NM qui devrait être banni chez Debian.
C'est le wifi itinérant qui m'a obligé à utiliser wicd, excellent 
logiciel. Auparavant, network.conf édité à la main suffisait pour le 
fonctionnement réseau.

--
Maderios

an answer plus minimal font size (was: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[songbird]

Richard Owlett wrote:

> The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using 
> dBaseII on a MS-DOS machine.
> What is a functional equivalent in the Debian repository?

  no idea.  i've used about a dozen different ones over
the years and even written parts of one.

  my guess is that for a very simple DB a flat file or
group of files is decent enough and you can grep or
awk or even use things like join and sort on those

$ man join 
$ man sort
$ man awk
$ man bash

  those four things should actually give you most of
what you'd need beyond a basic editor.

  for more complex situations i'd really just go with
Maria DB  and call it good enough.  it works, it isn't
hard to set up and then you don't have to keep reinventing
the wheel.

$ apt-cache show maria* | grep ackage:


> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system 
> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.

  i dunno, but i sure wish they'd honor the minimal font
size specified in the MATE setup.

  this is a consistent bitch of mine too.  i suppose it
would have helped had i filed an actual bug.  :)

  the alternative approach is to find the website on-line
and read the help via HTML browser which usually will 
honor a minimum font spec.


  songbird

X won't start after installing openbox

[Rodolfo Medina]

Any openbox users out there?

I installed x-window-system-core and openbox but startx gives error: `unable to
connect to X server: Connection refused'.  What am I missing?

Thanks for any help,

Rodolfo

Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[David Pinson]

Le 27/02/2017 à 18:41, VieuxGeek DuSystem a écrit :
> Demande à ton system :-)
>
> aptitude why network-manager
>
> Le 27 février 2017 à 18:32, maderios  a écrit :
>> On 02/27/2017 04:55 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
>>>
>>> Je lui ai dis de virer network-manager et de mettre wicd. Bingo!
>>> Mais bon, il devrait y avoir une explication, ça c' set un peu bourin,
>>> non?
>>>
>> Hi
>> network-manager est une vraie m...de. Jamais compris pourquoi ce truc est
>> installé par défaut dans Debian...
>>
>> --
>> Maderios
>>
>
Bonjour,

Jusqu'à présent, on arrivait à gérer avec un fichier
/etc/network/interfaces puis il y a eu le répertoire
/etc/network/interfaces.d/ avec tous les fouillis de fichiers dedans...
Je supprime systématiquement network-manager pour Wicd avec openVPN dans
tous mes projets Linux.

-- 
Linuxement vôtre,

-- 
dptech ~ David Pinson
--

   var beer = new beer();
   if (beer.empty)  {
   beer.refill();
   } else {
   beer.drink();
   }

Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[Miquel Demur]

 

NetworkManager a mauvaise presse. 

https://www.google.fr/search?q=wicd=utf-8=utf-8=firefox-b_rd=cr=YHS0WKoIroaABvm1hsAP
[1] 

  

Links:
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Re: Correos.es i fonts incrustades en documents

[Robert Marsellés]

Hola,

On 26/02/17 11:39, Robert Marsellés wrote:
> 
> Escric per si algú s'ha trobat amb aquest problema i sap com sortir-se'n.
> 

Gràcies a tots per les propostes. Ara la feinada de sempre, anar provant
fins que s'encerti. El missatge avisant-los que el seu sistema falla per
algun lloc o altre ja el vaig enviar ahir.

> 2. La web de /Correos.es/ permet fer-ho sense tenir que anar a les seves
> finestretes. Els requisits són registrar-se com a usuari i que els
> documents tinguin fonts vàlides "o" incrustades [2, 3].
> 
> 3. He redactat la carta amb LaTeX.
> 

Per cert Narcís, no és que hagi incrustat les fonts perquè ho
demanessin. El sistema LaTeX que uso (Debian package "texlive" tal com
raja sense tunejar) les incrusta sempre per defecte quan li dius que
processi el fitxer font a PDF. Si de cas hauria de mirar les opcions per
evitar que ho faci per defecte.

> 4. Les propietats del document mostrades usant l'Evince des de un SO
> Linux i l'Adobe Acrobat Reader DC des de un SO Win7 indiquen que el
> document final està en el format PDF de versió 1.5 i totes les fonts
> estan incrustades.
> 

Passa el mateix amb la versió PDF. El document que surt per defecte al
llençar LaTeX és un PDF (v1.5) de la mateixa manera que fa temps era la
versió 1.4. També haig de buscar les opcions perquè ho faci en la versió
que interessi.


> --> Problema:
> 
> El sistema de transferència de la pàgina web de /Correos.es/ revisa el
> document, troba quelcom que no li agrada i mai l'acaba "pujant". Cap
> altra informació.
> 
> M'ensumo que té a veure amb que les fonts usades (LModern) no són les
> oficials de Windows o Adobe (Arial, Calibri, Times New Roman, ...)
> encara que estiguin incrustades. Algú s'hi ha trobat?
> 

Potser no. Veure següent punt.

> Crec que la manera més eficient d'acabar-ho és agafant un ordinador amb
> Win i fer-ho amb Word però, excuseu-me, em dona pel sac. Alguna
> alternativa a banda d'enviar-los un missatge dient-los que estan
> confonent i fent perdre el temps a la gent?
> 

Per cert, això tampoc funciona. Provat també ahir. Document fet amb Word
i fonts New Times Roman i guardat en format PDF. Mateix problema.
Exactament igual.

Podria ser culpa del navegador? O de la pàgina web (depèn de com és
miri). És a dir, que quan la pàgina web ha de treballar amb un navegador
que no és pel que han fet el disseny de la pàgina doni problemes?

En alguna ocasió he llegit que hi ha alguna mena d'incompatibilitat i
segons com n'hi ha prou amb canviar el nom del navegador que veu la
pàgina web. És diu canviar l'àgent? Crec que és quelcom que s'instal·la
al navegador ("plugin") i permet canviar el nom que veu l'altra part.

Agraït novament,

Salut,

robert

Re: problème débogage systemd à l'extinction système

[JB]

Bonsoir,
/sbin/shutdown est un lien vers /bin/systemctl,
man systemctl
vers la fin on trouve desméthodes d'arret
personnellement, je devrais attendre 15'

j'ai contourné le pb avec reboot 
dés l'extintion du clavier, power off de l'ordinateur

essayer: trace shutdown et le bon paramètre
avant de rebooter, gdb bt
ou mise oeuvre de kdump

je n'utilise pas votre méthode d'analyse,
sous réserve la taille de 1M me parait juste
JB

Le lundi 27 février 2017 à 14:11 +0100, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit :
>   Chères colistières, chers colistiers,
> 
>   Je me tourne vers vous dans l'espoir qu'une lumière jaillira de vos
> entrailles, éclairant ma voie vers la résolution d'un problème qui
> commence à me les briser.
>   Le problème initial est une délai de 1'30'' à l'extinction
> [poweroff|reboot] du système, avec les messages systemd :
> [***]  A stop job is running for ifup for enp4s0 …
> [***]  A stop job is running for Raise network interfaces …
>   Bien entendu, dans un premier temps, j'ai écumé le WEB et essayé
> les suggestions glanées, mais aucune n'a résolu le problème.
>   Afin d'en comprendre la cause, j'essaie d'appliquer la méthode :
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#index2h1
> à la section « Shutdown Completes Eventually ». Las, au démarrage
> suivant, le fichier « /shutdown-log.txt » n'existe pas. Si bien que
> me
> voilà à vous demander votre aide pour déboguer mon débogage.
>   Pour préciser -- les instructions du lien ci-dessus n'étant pas
> très
> détaillées -- j'ai procédé ainsi :
> 1. Ajout d'un « menuentry » dans « /etc/grub.d/40_custom », identique
> au
> menuentry principal généré automatiquement par Debian, à l'exception
> de :
>   linux   /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-2-amd64 root=UUID=04cab1ac-
> 8020-4069-97ae-f567329ad900 systemd.log_level=debug
> systemd.log_target=kmsg log_buf_len=1M printk.devkmsg=on enforcing=0
> 2. $ sudo update-grub2
> 3. démarrage du système avec ce « menuentry » de débogage.
> 4. création du fichier :
> /usr/lib/systemd/system-shutdown/debug.sh (-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root)
> #!/bin/sh
> mount -o remount,rw /
> dmesg > /shutdown-log.txt
> mount -o remount,ro /
> 5. redémarrage du système sur le « menuentry » principal.
> 6. Choux blanc : pas de /shutdown-log.txt ?!
> 
>   Le tout sur une Sid à jour (systemd 232-18).
> 

"apt-get changelog" usage

[Michael Lange]

Hi,
I am trying to figure out how to use apt-get changelog correctly.
According to the manpage, when it is called without any further
arguments, as in

apt-get changelog 

it should display the changelog of the installed version of ,
here however it apparently displays the changelog of the package version
that is marked as install-candidate by apt-get update but not installed
yet. From the manpage it seems to me that I would have to call

apt-get changelog = 

instead to get the newer version's changelog.
In fact this behavior comes in handy for me, because the
install-candidate's changelog is what I want, but as far as I can see, it
is not what the documentation says.
Does anyone know, am I missing something here, or did I misunderstand the
manpage or why else does apt-get behave this way?

Regards

Michael

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If I can have honesty, it's easier to overlook mistakes.
-- Kirk, "Space Seed", stardate 3141.9

systemd service environment

[Teemu Likonen]

Nicolas George [2017-02-27 19:09:15+01] wrote:

> I do not know what shell systemd uses to start user programs:

It doesn't use shell at all. Systemd has its own parser for units'
ExecStart= lines and it's a lot more restricted than shells'. If more
control is needed the usual way is to have a launcher script:

ExecStart=/usr/bin/my-service start
ExecStop=/usr/bin/my-service stop

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Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Yes, all of those! But I don't see how that's an answer to the OP's
> legitimate question: how to keep things that belong together in one
> place, instead of repeating it in every bit of config?

I use always /etc/profile for non user specific or X stuff.
Never had a problem with it.

regards

Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[Nicolas George]

Le nonidi 9 ventôse, an CCXXV, Teemu Likonen a écrit :
> I moved my variable assignments to ~/.environment.sh and source that to
> ~/.profile and ~/.xsession.

Zsh has a ~/.zshenv that is meant exactly for that. It is sourced by all
zsh instances, even those started as interpreters. It is very
convenient. I just have to make sure that ~/.xsession is a #!/bin/zsh
script, and it automatically gets the environment.

I start mine with:

[[ "$ZSHENV_USER" == $UID-1 ]] && return
export ZSHENV_USER=$UID-1

That way, I avoid re-sourcing the file if it has already been sourced by
an ancestor. Thus, I can change the environment of a subtree of
processes without having it overridden, but the environment is
re-sourced if I ever use su. The "-1" can be changed to force
re-sourcing the file by new shells, but I do not use it anymore.

I do not know what shell systemd uses to start user programs: the user's
login shell or /bin/sh. If it is the former, then it works for that case
too.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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apache2 security update

[Dr. John A. Zoidberg MD]

This post concerns:

Debian Security Advisory DSA-3796-1 (appended below)

The package involved is apache2.

I have two "live" internet webservers, one an uptodate jessie, 
the other a long-maintained wheezy. The jessie machine upgraded 
easily to the new apache2 packages, but apt on my wheezy does 
not find any to install.


This line is in my sources.list:

http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

The above-noted Advisory (see below) only mentions new apache2 
security upgrades for jessie, stretch and sid. May I safely 
assume that in fact there is no update to be applied for apache2 
running in wheezy?


Thanks

--
John A. Zoidberg MD
Amphibian and Marine
Parasitology and Infectious Diseases

Here is the advisory:

From: Sebastien Delafond 
To: debian-security-annou...@lists.debian.org
Subject: [SECURITY] [DSA 3796-1] apache2 security update
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 18:26:40 +


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https://www.debian.org/security/   Sebastien Delafond
February 26, 2017 https://www.debian.org/security/faq
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Package: apache2
CVE ID : CVE-2016-0736 CVE-2016-2161 CVE-2016-8743

Several vulnerabilities were discovered in the Apache2 HTTP server.

CVE-2016-0736

  RedTeam Pentesting GmbH discovered that mod_session_crypto was
  vulnerable to padding oracle attacks, which could allow an attacker
  to guess the session cookie.

CVE-2016-2161

  Maksim Malyutin discovered that malicious input to mod_auth_digest
  could cause the server to crash, causing a denial of service.

CVE-2016-8743

  David Dennerline, of IBM Security's X-Force Researchers, and Régis
  Leroy discovered problems in the way Apache handled a broad pattern
  of unusual whitespace patterns in HTTP requests. In some
  configurations, this could lead to response splitting or cache
  pollution vulnerabilities.  To fix these issues, this update makes
  Apache httpd be more strict in what HTTP requests it accepts.

  If this causes problems with non-conforming clients, some checks can
  be relaxed by adding the new directive "HttpProtocolOptions unsafe"
  to the configuration.

This update also fixes the issue where mod_reqtimeout was not enabled
by default on new installations.

For the stable distribution (jessie), these problems have been fixed in
version 2.4.10-10+deb8u8.

For the testing (stretch) and unstable (sid) distributions, these
problems have been fixed in version 2.4.25-1.

We recommend that you upgrade your apache2 packages.

Further information about Debian Security Advisories, how to apply
these updates to your system and frequently asked questions can be
found at: https://www.debian.org/security/

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Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Jude DaShiell]

That is an accessibility bug and ought to be reported as such and cargon 
copied to debian-accessibility.


On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, Richard Owlett wrote:


Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:17:56
From: Richard Owlett 
To: debian-user 
Subject: A minimal relational database in Debian?
Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 13:18:44 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using dBaseII on 
a MS-DOS machine.

What is a functional equivalent in the Debian repository?

I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system 
provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.


https://packages.debian.org/stable/database/ was not useful as it doesn't 
categorize the list.


Suggestions?
TIA




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Re: mdraid will no start at boot

[deloptes]

basti wrote:

> ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=1.2 name=srv01:0
> UUID=42c30af1:e6986757:2c6bf608:34582a76
> ARRAY /dev/md1 metadata=1.2 name=srv01:1
> UUID=05b45cf9:2bf2dae8:8b4ea488:8cb4c214
> # this line dones not start on boot
> ARRAY /dev/md2 metadata=0.90 UUID=63226122:8d9b97bb:99109359:8e81e636
> 
> 
> When I run mdadm --assemble --run /dev/md2 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 the array
> is start.

Check and update if needed /etc/default/mdadm, /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[Teemu Likonen]

David Wright [2017-02-27 10:56:55-06] wrote:

>> systemctl --user import-enviroment
>
> Is that typo actually in the file?

No. I just (mis)typed those "files" here. In practice they contain quite
a lot more than that.

>> ~/.xsession:
>> 
>> . ~/.profile
>
> My profile has side effects. Calling it from ~/.xsession
> would repeat them, which would be undesirable.

I moved my variable assignments to ~/.environment.sh and source that to
~/.profile and ~/.xsession.

> Have you tried putting an EnvironmentFile= in here (man 5
> systemd.service)? You could source the file from elsewhere if required
> so that you only need one set of definitions.

(EnvironmentFile's primary description is in systemd.exec(5).)

Doesn't work well with services that need X session which sets DISPLAY,
XAUTHORITY, GPG_AGENT_INFO, SSH_AUTH_SOCK and maybe other things. Some
of them have no static values. So, it's simpler to have things like:

~/.xsession:

. ~/.environment.sh # Import my variables.

systemctl --user import-environment
systemctl --user start [service-that-needs-X-session-environment]
my-window-manager
systemctl --user stop [service-that-needs-X-session-environment]

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Re: good LDAP resources

[deloptes]

Dan Ritter wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 02:16:27PM -0800, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
>> I need to set-up some sort of password server for a small network so that
>> i don't have to set-up accounts on every machine.
>> 
>> It looks like LDAP is the best way to do that.
>> 
>> Is it ?
>> 
>> I've been looking at the LDAP how-to's and even tried to turn things on
>> using one of them, but I can't quite get things working.
>> 
>> Can someone point me to a good resource as to how to make it work ?
> 
> Depends on how small. I would say there is no particular payoff
> for LDAP until you get to somewhere between 10 and 100 machines,
> depending on what your userbase looks like.
> 
> For example: if you use puppet, chef, ansible or any of the
> other configuration management tools, it's easy to distribute
> users with that, and you get to distribute /etc/sudoers and
> other things as well.
> 
> If you need instant password changes across a fleet of machines,
> though, or you have a lot of people who all want to change their
> passwords regularly, LDAP is the way to go. Remember that nearly
> everything will be dependent on LDAP, so you need to have a
> minimum of three physical machines to serve it from.
> 
> http://techpubs.spinlocksolutions.com/dklar/ldap.html might
> help you out.
> 
> -dsr-

This is also a good article
http://www.spencerstirling.com/computergeek/mysqluser.html

Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[VieuxGeek DuSystem]

Demande à ton system :-)

aptitude why network-manager

Le 27 février 2017 à 18:32, maderios  a écrit :
> On 02/27/2017 04:55 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
>>
>>
>
>> Je lui ai dis de virer network-manager et de mettre wicd. Bingo!
>> Mais bon, il devrait y avoir une explication, ça c' set un peu bourin,
>> non?
>>
> Hi
> network-manager est une vraie m...de. Jamais compris pourquoi ce truc est
> installé par défaut dans Debian...
>
> --
> Maderios
>

Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[maderios]

On 02/27/2017 04:55 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:





Je lui ai dis de virer network-manager et de mettre wicd. Bingo!
Mais bon, il devrait y avoir une explication, ça c' set un peu bourin, non?


Hi
network-manager est une vraie m...de. Jamais compris pourquoi ce truc 
est installé par défaut dans Debian...


--
Maderios

Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[David Wright]

On Mon 27 Feb 2017 at 15:19:27 (+0200), Teemu Likonen wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de [2017-02-27 09:12:28+01] wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:07:19AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> >> So I do distinguish between settings for X session and for not X
> >> session - at least two places for the variables. Further more there
> >> are global and user specific ... etc
> >
> > Yes, all of those! But I don't see how that's an answer to the OP's
> > legitimate question: how to keep things that belong together in one
> > place, instead of repeating it in every bit of config?
> 
> Yes. I know ~/.profile, ~/.xsession, systemd units' "Environment=...",
> "systemctl --user import-enviroment" and various other things. I can
> manage. I'm just asking for other ideas on how to handle things
> mentioned in my original post.
> 
> Well, here's the idea of my current setup (not exact copy):
> 
> ~/.profile:
> 
> # Set the usual environment:
> export PATH=...
> export EDITOR=...
> systemctl --user import-enviroment

Is that typo actually in the file?

> ~/.xsession:
> 
> . ~/.profile

My profile has side effects. Calling it from ~/.xsession
would repeat them, which would be undesirable.

I would be loath to just chuck everything in one place.
Unpicking an undesirable effect could be very tedious.

> # Start various systemd services:
> systemctl --user start graphical-session.target
> /usr/bin/i3
> systemctl --user stop graphical-session.target
> 
> ~/.config/systemd/user/emacs.service:
> 
> [Unit]
> Description=The Emacs Operating System
> 
> [Service]
> Type=forking

Have you tried putting an   EnvironmentFile=   in here
(man 5 systemd.service)? You could source the file from
elsewhere if required so that you only need one set of
definitions.

> ExecStart=/usr/bin/emacs --daemon
> SuccessExitStatus=15
> Restart=on-failure
> TimeoutStartSec=0
> TimeoutStopSec=0
> 
> [Install]
> WantedBy=graphical-session.target

Cheers,
David.

Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[VieuxGeek DuSystem]

Oui il y a toujours une explication :-) As tu changé de channel ?

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_canaux_Wi-Fi

suprimer network-manager n'est pas bourin mais une évidence :-)



Le 27 février 2017 à 16:55, Thierry Chatelet  a écrit :
>
>
> On 27/02/2017 00:22, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
>>
>> Bonjour
>>
>> J' ai attendu lundi pour cette question, vous auriez cru à un trool
>> vendredi. D' ailleur j' ose à peine vous posez le problème tant ça me semble
>> irreel.
>>
>> Voilà, j' ai mis une stretch sur l' ordi de ma fille, il a une carte wifi
>> broadcom 43142.
>>
>> Avec squeeze, la carte déconnectait constament.
>>
>> J' installe stretch chez moi, la connectiontion wifi impecable.
>>
>> Elle emene l' ordi chez elle, ravie. Et là, la carte ne voit aucun
>> réseaux.
>>
>> Elle va à la B.U. et là ça connecte direct! Retour maison, pas de réseaux!
>> (A savoir l' ordi de son copain trouve une dizaine de réseau. Elle va chez
>> une copine et là ça marche impec!
>>
>> Voilà, j' ai pas fait la teuf ce WE, promis.
>>
>> Mais je ne sais par ou commencer. Une piste...
>>
> Je lui ai dis de virer network-manager et de mettre wicd. Bingo!
> Mais bon, il devrait y avoir une explication, ça c' set un peu bourin, non?
>

Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 02/27/2017 09:44 AM, Joe wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:53:30 -0600
Richard Owlett  wrote:


On 02/27/2017 07:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:



LibreOffice Base is, AFAIK *not* a relational database, but just
a -possibly graphical- user interface to one. Relational databases,
as I know them, have no "fonts", for example.


I didn't claim it was ;/
I looked at it as it was install by default when I chose MATE as my
DE. The "font problem" was that I could not force its "help system"
to use a legible font size. Not being able to read its "help", I have
ABSOLUTELY NO idea of what capability it does/doesn't supply.



It's sort of functionally nearly equivalent to MS Access on Windows 3
i.e. 1992-ish.


I had forgotten about MS Access, probably 'cause the less I think about 
that employer the better. It was later than dBaseII but aimed pretty 
much at the same market. Having used dBaseII was considered "qualifying 
experience" for the job.



It's slow and as buggy as hell. It can't handle update
queries. I think it still needs Java for reporting. Apart from that,
it's about the quickest way to assemble an ad-hoc database
application.
Free, that is, there are probably better commercial products. I use it
for this reason, but also that it is cross-platform, you can literally
take a Base file from a Linux machine and run it on a Windows machine,
and vice versa (for close-numbered versions of LO).

But a lot depends on what you want to do. Only you know your actual
database needs. LO Base can use an internal database file or pretty
much any client-server database or other ODBC server. For making user
applications, it's worth considering.


Not if it throws barriers between me ant its documentation.



For actual storage of data in related tables, as others have said,
there is sqlite (single file) and a few client-server SQL databases.
Note that if you are aware of MS SQL Server, and that it is a
humungous
beast that needs its own powerful server hardware, MySQL and
Postgresql
can use orders of magnitude fewer resources, and don't cause much of a
problem when running on a workstation. I resisted running an SQL server
on my home server for some years, but when it became unavoidable, I
found that it didn't really need much care and feeding.

But you then do the work of getting the data in and out and presenting
it usefully. Perl, PHP, lazarus, python and all the other languages have
database libraries, but you may have some heavy programming to do.
Lazarus contains visual data components like the Delphi ones, and can
make database handling a bit easier, as well as visual application
development. There are database admin programs which allow useful data
manipulation, but you wouldn't give them to a user. Every now and then
I look around, and I still haven't found a free database application
developer better than LO Base. For all its faults.



I installed sqlitebrowser and looked at one set of sqlite files that was 
on of the triggers causing my current questions. It doesn't appear to 
match me. But it's looking hopeful that sqlite may be useful.


A little research indicates that Tcl/Tk plays well with sqlite. A couple 
of years ago I started learning it for a now abandoned project. I'll 
follow up on that combo. [I looked at some code fragments on 
http://wiki.tcl.tk . They were reminiscent of what I did in dBaseII so 
may be a productive path.]

Re: problème débogage systemd à l'extinction système

[maderios]

On 02/27/2017 02:11 PM, Alexandre Hoïde wrote:

  Chères colistières, chers colistiers,

  Je me tourne vers vous dans l'espoir qu'une lumière jaillira de vos
entrailles, éclairant ma voie vers la résolution d'un problème qui
commence à me les briser.
  Le problème initial est une délai de 1'30'' à l'extinction
[poweroff|reboot] du système, avec les messages systemd :
[***]  A stop job is running for ifup for enp4s0 …
[***]  A stop job is running for Raise network interfaces …

Bonjour
Ce problème  a été réglé par des utilisateurs en changeant de noyau.
Tu peux essayer de booter sur un noyau Stretch
Sid sera toujours Sid... :)

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Re: Res: OFF Topic Roteadores Net distribuindo SSID "fantasma"

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

Le lun. 27 févr. 2017 à 13:05, jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br a écrit :


A parte técnica eh a degradação do link com um hipotético número 
de conexões "alheias" ao contratante do serviço. Uma conexão de 
5mbps pode não impactar, mas se o contratante ficar ao alcance de 
uma praça em uma avenida de grande movimento, são N x 5mbps, e isso 
sim pode impactar.


Esse ‘n’ é relativamente baixo, mas seria bom saber quanto.


Isso tudo assumindo que a operadora consegue isolar, separar e 
proteger a rede interna e externa.


Teoricamente consegue, mas sabemos que o histórico e a natureza dos 
sistemas proprietários não anima, para não falar da própria 
complexidade da tarefa.



E a parte moral eh a operadora se utilizar da estrutura física do 
contratante bem como o consumo de energia elétrica


Talvez esse fosse um ângulo passível de questionamento judicial, se 
conseguirmos medir esse consumo adicional pela rede extra.



e apropriação da localização para deixar de investir em 
infraestrutura de antenas próprias em locais próprios para criar 
uma malha  de alcance do serviço que agrega valor a sua marca, sem 
oferecer nada em troca ao contratante, nem ao menos perguntar se ele 
concorda com isso. Algo que já vi em empresas que oferecem serviço 
de conexão via rádio em bairros: cada casa com serviço instalado 
se transforma em uma ponte para futuros clientes. Eh diferente, mas o 
modelo de negócio eh o mesmo: aumentar estrutura sem investir um 
tostão sequer.


A diferença aí é que no caso de rádio eu, particularmente, não me 
importaria se isso estivesse num contrato, visto que me atrai a idéia 
de redes, digamos, mutualizadas — para não usar o estrangeirismo 
/mesh/, que me parece redundante com ‘rede’.  Mas, estando num 
contrato ou não, eu não esperaria que compartilhassem sem fio minha 
conexão cabeada, e sem benefício aparente para mim.



O modem eh propriedade da operadora, e sem permissão dela, vc não 
pode modifica-lo. Resta então ler o contrato, e decidir uma ação 
judicial. Ou mais rapidamente,  você pode coloca-lo em uma sala 
blindada caso discorde do uso da wifi por outras pessoas. Ou em uma 
caixa de papelão coberta com papel alumínio. :D


Deve ter um projeto por aí com um vídeo e tudo…



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Re: mdraid will no start at boot

[Andy Smith]

Hi basti,

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:21:51AM +0100, basti wrote:
> on one of my debian machine i have a error with one md raid.
> 
> There are
> md0 => /
> md1 => /backup
> md2 => /samba
> 
> md2 is not start/assemble after reboot,

I had a similar issue when I did not include the driver for some of
my devices (mpt3sas) in the initramfs:

http://www.spinics.net/lists/raid/msg54466.html
http://www.spinics.net/lists/raid/msg54522.html

There was much back and forth with Neil Brown (former md maintainer and
still developer) because my arrays still should have been assembled
as soon as userland was booted as then mpt3sas was loaded. i.e.
incremental assembly should have kicked in and assembled my arrays
as soon as loading mpt3sas made the devices visible.

Ultimately though it seems that Debian disables this incremental
assembly because of other problems:

http://www.spinics.net/lists/raid/msg54615.html

So I have to stick with my workaround of loading mpt3sas in the
initramfs.

If your problem is not related to that, you'll probably find more
assistance by posting on linux-raid. As you can see, Neil put a lot
of effort into getting to the source of my issue there.

Cheers,
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Res: OFF Topic Roteadores Net distribuindo SSID "fantasma"

[jmhenrique]

  ‎Um link com tabelas de velocidades em redes coaxiais de TV a cabo. ‎https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSISExiste aí uma mistura de  questão técnica com questão legal e questão moral. A parte técnica eh a degradação do link com um hipotético número de conexões "alheias" ao contratante do serviço. Uma conexão de 5mbps pode não impactar, mas se o contratante ficar ao alcance de uma praça em uma avenida de grande movimento, são N x 5mbps, e isso sim pode impactar. Isso tudo assumindo que a operadora consegue isolar, separar e proteger a rede interna e externa. A parte legal eh isto estar ou não no contrato que o contratante assinou com a operadora. E a parte moral eh a operadora se utilizar da estrutura física do contratante bem como o consumo de energia elétrica e apropriação da localização para deixar de investir em infraestrutura de antenas próprias em locais próprios para criar uma malha  de alcance do serviço que agrega valor a sua marca, sem oferecer nada em troca ao contratante, nem ao menos perguntar se ele concorda com isso. Algo que já vi em empresas que oferecem serviço de conexão via rádio em bairros: cada casa com serviço instalado se transforma em uma ponte para futuros clientes. Eh diferente, mas o modelo de negócio eh o mesmo: aumentar estrutura sem investir um tostão sequer.  O modem eh propriedade da operadora, e sem permissão dela, vc não pode modifica-lo. Resta então ler o contrato, e decidir uma ação judicial. Ou mais rapidamente,  você pode coloca-lo em uma sala blindada caso discorde do uso da wifi por outras pessoas. Ou em uma caixa de papelão coberta com papel alumínio. :D  ‎AbraçosHenryEnviado do meu smartphone BlackBerry 10.De: Helio LoureiroEnviada: domingo, 26 de fevereiro de 2017 20:34Para: Henrique FagundesCc: DebianAssunto: Re: OFF Topic Roteadores Net distribuindo SSID "fantasma"Rede por cabo não é 100 Mbps.  Vai até 250 Mbps se não me engano.  Talvez as tecnologias mais novas cheguem em valores até mais altos. Eles fecham o rádio numa rede separada e realmente não afeta a sua navegação ou tráfego.Como o modem é por comodato, ele efetivamente não é seu.  Apesar de esquisito, não é algo que afeta sua privacidade ou sua navegação.Mas se achar que não é o caso, que está sim tendo sua privacidade invadida, então é abrir uma reclamação na ANATEL.  Não vai mudar nada, mas a ANATEL deve ter fornecer mais informações de como funciona../Helio-= sent via Android =-On Feb 24, 2017 19:03, "Henrique Fagundes"  wrote:Isso resolve-se fácil:

Basta comprar um modem a parte! Um DLINK ou TPLINK e pronto!

Atenciosamente,

Henrique Fagundes
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Em 24/02/2017 14:16, Márcio Pedroso escreveu:

no treinamento da net, falam que nao influi na velocidade de navegaçao.
no quesito segurança nao me atrevo a entrar em maiores detalhes por
falta de conhecimento, mas pesa muito tambem a qualidade do firewall que
tu tem que fazer para a privacidade dos dados. o que eu posso fazer é
perguntar para um amigo que trabalha no headend da net para fazer essas
perguntas se alguem tiver alguma curiosidade ou duvida a acresentar eu
aguardo as perguntas de vcs


Em 24 de fevereiro de 2017 14:05, Paulino Kenji Sato > escreveu:

    Ola,
    Outro dia a net literalmente cortou a minha internet (se e que se
    pode chamar 1mbps de internet). Como de vez em quando aparece uma
    rede aberta na proximidades, resolvi ir até a janela e ver as redes
    pelo smartphone. E apareceu esse rede #NET-WIFI, tentei conectar, o
    captive portal pediu o login e senha. Coloco as minhas credenciais,
    mas retorna que somente clientes com mais de 5mbps podem utilizar.

    Como já disseram o ​DOCSIS controla essa rede adicional, existirão
    duas ou mais end-points no modem, uma para cada rede disponível. Até
    o modem e portas ethernet não vejo problemas sérios, já que as
    portas podem estar 

Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[Thierry Chatelet]

On 27/02/2017 00:22, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

Bonjour

J' ai attendu lundi pour cette question, vous auriez cru à un trool 
vendredi. D' ailleur j' ose à peine vous posez le problème tant ça me 
semble irreel.


Voilà, j' ai mis une stretch sur l' ordi de ma fille, il a une carte 
wifi broadcom 43142.


Avec squeeze, la carte déconnectait constament.

J' installe stretch chez moi, la connectiontion wifi impecable.

Elle emene l' ordi chez elle, ravie. Et là, la carte ne voit aucun 
réseaux.


Elle va à la B.U. et là ça connecte direct! Retour maison, pas de 
réseaux! (A savoir l' ordi de son copain trouve une dizaine de réseau. 
Elle va chez une copine et là ça marche impec!


Voilà, j' ai pas fait la teuf ce WE, promis.

Mais je ne sais par ou commencer. Une piste...


Je lui ai dis de virer network-manager et de mettre wicd. Bingo!
Mais bon, il devrait y avoir une explication, ça c' set un peu bourin, non?

Re: OFF Topic Roteadores Net distribuindo SSID "fantasma"

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

Le lun. 27 févr. 2017 à 12:15, Márcio Pedroso 
 a écrit :
> O que tu quer dizer com a rede por cabo? Fala dos cabos que levam 
sinal da net?


Respondendo pelo colega, sim, claro.  Obviamente o roteador da Globo 
Net Virtua tem muito mais capacidade do que a usada pelo plano de dados 
do assinante, de modo que a rede sem fio está longe de saturar sua 
capacidade.


	Eu ficaria mais preocupado com (1) eventuais falhas de segurança, e 
possivelmente privacidade, de um equipamento proprietário; preferiria 
se fosse possível usar OpenWRT, mas não vejo muito grandes danos, já 
que usamos Debian; e (2) a possibilidade da rede sem fio saturar-se, 
mas isso só será problema se não usarmos Ethernet, ou seja, afetará 
mais nossos celulares e tabuletas, eventualmente computadores onde o 
cabo Ethernet não chega.  Mesmo comprar um ponto de acesso adicional 
ainda arrisca alguma interferência da rede da Net.


Saudades do RDSI…


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Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[Joe]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:53:30 -0600
Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 02/27/2017 07:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> >
> > LibreOffice Base is, AFAIK *not* a relational database, but just
> > a -possibly graphical- user interface to one. Relational databases,
> > as I know them, have no "fonts", for example.  
> 
> I didn't claim it was ;/
> I looked at it as it was install by default when I chose MATE as my
> DE. The "font problem" was that I could not force its "help system"
> to use a legible font size. Not being able to read its "help", I have
> ABSOLUTELY NO idea of what capability it does/doesn't supply.
> 

It's sort of functionally nearly equivalent to MS Access on Windows 3
i.e. 1992-ish. It's slow and as buggy as hell. It can't handle update
queries. I think it still needs Java for reporting. Apart from that,
it's about the quickest way to assemble an ad-hoc database application.
Free, that is, there are probably better commercial products. I use it
for this reason, but also that it is cross-platform, you can literally
take a Base file from a Linux machine and run it on a Windows machine,
and vice versa (for close-numbered versions of LO).

But a lot depends on what you want to do. Only you know your actual
database needs. LO Base can use an internal database file or pretty
much any client-server database or other ODBC server. For making user
applications, it's worth considering.

For actual storage of data in related tables, as others have said,
there is sqlite (single file) and a few client-server SQL databases.
Note that if you are aware of MS SQL Server, and that it is a humungous
beast that needs its own powerful server hardware, MySQL and Postgresql
can use orders of magnitude fewer resources, and don't cause much of a
problem when running on a workstation. I resisted running an SQL server
on my home server for some years, but when it became unavoidable, I
found that it didn't really need much care and feeding.

But you then do the work of getting the data in and out and presenting
it usefully. Perl, PHP, lazarus, python and all the other languages have
database libraries, but you may have some heavy programming to do.
Lazarus contains visual data components like the Delphi ones, and can
make database handling a bit easier, as well as visual application
development. There are database admin programs which allow useful data
manipulation, but you wouldn't give them to a user. Every now and then
I look around, and I still haven't found a free database application
developer better than LO Base. For all its faults.

-- 
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Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[GiaThnYgeia]

Hans:
> Hi,
> I am just clickingin LXDE menu on the icon to start, then a popup menu opens 
> and asks for my password (the user password NOT root) and I can install just 

But is that user a member in the sudo group?  I had to use root till I
added the user to the group

> Best
> 
> Hans
>>
>> What, exactly, do you do to start synaptic? Click on something, or run a
>> command in a terminal? What prompts you for a password? What version of
>> synaptic do you have installed?
> 
> 

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Re: OFF Topic Roteadores Net distribuindo SSID "fantasma"

[Márcio Pedroso]

O que tu quer dizer com a rede por cabo? Fala dos cabos que levam sinal da
net?
Em dom, 26 de fev de 2017 às 20:34, Helio Loureiro 
escreveu:

> Rede por cabo não é 100 Mbps.  Vai até 250 Mbps se não me engano.  Talvez
> as tecnologias mais novas cheguem em valores até mais altos. Eles fecham o
> rádio numa rede separada e realmente não afeta a sua navegação ou tráfego.
>
> Como o modem é por comodato, ele efetivamente não é seu.  Apesar de
> esquisito, não é algo que afeta sua privacidade ou sua navegação.
>
> Mas se achar que não é o caso, que está sim tendo sua privacidade
> invadida, então é abrir uma reclamação na ANATEL.  Não vai mudar nada, mas
> a ANATEL deve ter fornecer mais informações de como funciona.
>
> ./Helio
>
> -= sent via Android =-
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 19:03, "Henrique Fagundes" 
> wrote:
>
> Isso resolve-se fácil:
>
> Basta comprar um modem a parte! Um DLINK ou TPLINK e pronto!
>
>
> Atenciosamente,
>
> Henrique Fagundes
> henri...@linuxadmin.com.br
> Skype: magnata-br-rj
> Linux User: 475399
>
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>
> Em 24/02/2017 14:16, Márcio Pedroso escreveu:
>
> no treinamento da net, falam que nao influi na velocidade de navegaçao.
> no quesito segurança nao me atrevo a entrar em maiores detalhes por
> falta de conhecimento, mas pesa muito tambem a qualidade do firewall que
> tu tem que fazer para a privacidade dos dados. o que eu posso fazer é
> perguntar para um amigo que trabalha no headend da net para fazer essas
> perguntas se alguem tiver alguma curiosidade ou duvida a acresentar eu
> aguardo as perguntas de vcs
>
>
> Em 24 de fevereiro de 2017 14:05, Paulino Kenji Sato  > escreveu:
>
>
> Ola,
> Outro dia a net literalmente cortou a minha internet (se e que se
> pode chamar 1mbps de internet). Como de vez em quando aparece uma
> rede aberta na proximidades, resolvi ir até a janela e ver as redes
> pelo smartphone. E apareceu esse rede #NET-WIFI, tentei conectar, o
> captive portal pediu o login e senha. Coloco as minhas credenciais,
> mas retorna que somente clientes com mais de 5mbps podem utilizar.
>
> Como já disseram o ​DOCSIS controla essa rede adicional, existirão
> duas ou mais end-points no modem, uma para cada rede disponível. Até
> o modem e portas ethernet não vejo problemas sérios, já que as
> portas podem estar fisicamente isoladas (não um switch).
> O problema esta no WiFi, a não ser que o modem tenha dois rádios
> (para a mesma banda), o wifi vai estar compartilhando o mesmo canal
> de comunicação, usando multiplos essid. A banda do canal wifi vai
> estar sendo compartilhada com essa rede #NET-WIFI. Além de problemas
> de segurança.
> Recomendação que faço e não conectem nada diretamente ao modem, seja
> a tecnologia que for, coloquem equipamentos em que confia fazendo o
> compartilhamento da Internet.
>
> E também, tem a rede da IPTV, ou seja la como a NET chama.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Firefox Developer Edition (firefox-aurora) status

[Avinash Sonawane]

Hello!

I'm using Firefox Developer Edition 52.0a2

I added the repo for Firefox Developer Edition (Firefox Aurora) from
http://mozilla.debian.net/ but now the page says "Sorry, this version
is not available." for version "aurora".

Is this a temporary outage or firefox-aurora repo will be no longer maintained
by Debian Mozilla Team?

Is there any official word regarding this? A mailing list post or a
blog post or something?

On a side note `apt-get update` says "W: Failed to fetch
http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/jessie-backports/Release  Unable to
find expected entry 'firefox-aurora/source/Sources' in Release file
(Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"

The relevant part from sources.list:
#firefox developer edition
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports firefox-aurora
deb-src http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports firefox-aurora

Regards,
Avinash Sonawane (rootKea)
PICT, Pune
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A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 02/27/2017 07:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 07:17:56AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using
dBaseII on a MS-DOS machine.


An IBM PC-XT IIRC



Hm. A strange "relational" database indeed...


It is dated (obsolete for decades), but why "strange". It development 
was apparently contemporaneous with SQL, but unrelated.





What is a functional equivalent in the Debian repository?

I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help"
system provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible
size.


LibreOffice Base is, AFAIK *not* a relational database, but just
a -possibly graphical- user interface to one. Relational databases,
as I know them, have no "fonts", for example.


I didn't claim it was ;/
I looked at it as it was install by default when I chose MATE as my DE.
The "font problem" was that I could not force its "help system" to use a 
legible font size. Not being able to read its "help", I have ABSOLUTELY 
NO idea of what capability it does/doesn't supply.




Sorry for sounding somewhat snarky, but I'm trying to help you refine
your requirements.


No problem. I was using a definition I learned in the 1980's.


What is it exactly what you are looking for?


I accept as satisfactory the definition given at 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_database .




 - some kind of dBase clone (in a very loose sense), i.e. some
   GUI where you can click together small data-centric GUI apps?
   "Relational", perhaps "concurrent multi-user" not so important?

   I have to defer to others in this one. But perhaps you might
   want to look into gambas (for which you'd need a "real" database
   beneath, see below)

 - a "relational" [1] database with transactions, SQL, perhaps some
   concurrent multi-user capabilities?

   Here, you could do significantly worse than PostgreSQL. Highly
   recommended. Or, if you want to embed it into applications and
   don't care about multi-user (and many other niceties), you
   might want to look into sqlite. Then there is MariaDB (which
   was formerly spelled MySQL, but Oracle). Others will disagree,
   but my take is: don't if you don't have to.

(The first class of applications might contain one of the second
class as embedded data store -- or it might not).

What does you use case look like, approximately?

Regards

[1] Yeah: absolute purists will say most SQL databases out there
   are not relational, and they'd be right

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Firefox Developer Edition (firefox-aurora) status

[Avinash Sonawane]

Hello!

I'm using Firefox Developer Edition 52.0a2

I added the repo for Firefox Developer Edition (Firefox Aurora) from
http://mozilla.debian.net/ but now the page says "Sorry, this version
is not available." for version "aurora".

Is this an outage or firefox-aurora repo will be no longer maintained
by Debian Mozilla Team?

Is there any official word regarding this? A mailing list post or a
blog post or something?

On a side note `apt-get update` says "W: Failed to fetch
http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/jessie-backports/Release  Unable to
find expected entry 'firefox-aurora/source/Sources' in Release file
(Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"

The relevant part from sources.list:
#firefox developer edition
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports firefox-aurora
deb-src http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports firefox-aurora

Regards,
Avinash Sonawane (rootKea)
PICT, Pune
https://rootkea.wordpress.com

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Dan Ritter]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 02:28:44PM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote:
> On 02/27/2017 02:17 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using
> > dBaseII on a MS-DOS machine. What is a functional equivalent in the
> > Debian repository?
> 
> Well, I've never used DBaseII, but if you want a small relational
> database, take a look at SQLite. There are bindings into most
> languages and there's a command line client. The storage is simple
> (from an end-user perspective): each database is just a different
> file. There's also a GUI called 'sqlitebrowser' which is in Debian,
> but I've never used that. There are also other GUIs out there not
> part of Debian, which you can install manually.

SQLite for really minimal, PostgreSQL for everything else. 

-dsr-

Re: good LDAP resources

[Dan Ritter]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 02:16:27PM -0800, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> I need to set-up some sort of password server for a small network so that i 
> don't have to set-up accounts on every machine.
> 
> It looks like LDAP is the best way to do that.
> 
> Is it ?
> 
> I've been looking at the LDAP how-to's and even tried to turn things on using 
> one of them, but I can't quite get things working.
> 
> Can someone point me to a good resource as to how to make it work ?

Depends on how small. I would say there is no particular payoff
for LDAP until you get to somewhere between 10 and 100 machines,
depending on what your userbase looks like.

For example: if you use puppet, chef, ansible or any of the
other configuration management tools, it's easy to distribute
users with that, and you get to distribute /etc/sudoers and
other things as well.

If you need instant password changes across a fleet of machines,
though, or you have a lot of people who all want to change their
passwords regularly, LDAP is the way to go. Remember that nearly
everything will be dependent on LDAP, so you need to have a
minimum of three physical machines to serve it from.

http://techpubs.spinlocksolutions.com/dklar/ldap.html might
help you out.

-dsr-

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[Pontus Goffe]

Den 2017-02-27 kl. 12:20, skrev Hans:

If so, then why not working so in KDE? And if this is intended, then this is a
bug and a security hole, which should be fixed.

Hans

A fresh vanilla install of testing with LXDE installs both sudo and 
gksu. Without configuring any, starting synaptic from menu prompts for 
the root password.

//PG

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 02:28:44PM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote:
> Well, I've never used DBaseII, but if you want a small relational
> database, take a look at SQLite. There are bindings into most
> languages and there's a command line client. The storage is simple
> (from an end-user perspective): each database is just a different
> file. There's also a GUI called 'sqlitebrowser' which is in Debian,
> but I've never used that.

Another vote for SQLite. "sqlitebrowser" is pretty good, IMHO, not
great but useful.


-- 
Jonathan Dowland


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Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[tomas]

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 07:17:56AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using
> dBaseII on a MS-DOS machine.

Hm. A strange "relational" database indeed...

> What is a functional equivalent in the Debian repository?
> 
> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help"
> system provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible
> size.

LibreOffice Base is, AFAIK *not* a relational database, but just
a -possibly graphical- user interface to one. Relational databases,
as I know them, have no "fonts", for example.

Sorry for sounding somewhat snarky, but I'm trying to help you refine
your requirements. What is it exactly what you are looking for?

 - some kind of dBase clone (in a very loose sense), i.e. some
   GUI where you can click together small data-centric GUI apps?
   "Relational", perhaps "concurrent multi-user" not so important?

   I have to defer to others in this one. But perhaps you might
   want to look into gambas (for which you'd need a "real" database
   beneath, see below)

 - a "relational" [1] database with transactions, SQL, perhaps some
   concurrent multi-user capabilities?

   Here, you could do significantly worse than PostgreSQL. Highly
   recommended. Or, if you want to embed it into applications and
   don't care about multi-user (and many other niceties), you
   might want to look into sqlite. Then there is MariaDB (which
   was formerly spelled MySQL, but Oracle). Others will disagree,
   but my take is: don't if you don't have to.

(The first class of applications might contain one of the second
class as embedded data store -- or it might not).

What does you use case look like, approximately?

Regards

[1] Yeah: absolute purists will say most SQL databases out there
   are not relational, and they'd be right

- -- tomás
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Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[James Allsopp]

+1 for Sqlite unless you need multiuser access.
James

On 27 February 2017 at 13:17, Richard Owlett  wrote:

> The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using dBaseII
> on a MS-DOS machine.
> What is a functional equivalent in the Debian repository?
>
> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.
>
> https://packages.debian.org/stable/database/ was not useful as it doesn't
> categorize the list.
>
> Suggestions?
> TIA
>
>

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Christian Seiler]

On 02/27/2017 02:17 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using
> dBaseII on a MS-DOS machine. What is a functional equivalent in the
> Debian repository?

Well, I've never used DBaseII, but if you want a small relational
database, take a look at SQLite. There are bindings into most
languages and there's a command line client. The storage is simple
(from an end-user perspective): each database is just a different
file. There's also a GUI called 'sqlitebrowser' which is in Debian,
but I've never used that. There are also other GUIs out there not
part of Debian, which you can install manually.

> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.

No idea about LibreOffice Base, and I don't remember ever opening
the help window in LibreOffice, but often [Ctrl] + [+] will help
increase font sizes.

Regards,
Christian

Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[Teemu Likonen]

to...@tuxteam.de [2017-02-27 09:12:28+01] wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:07:19AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
>> So I do distinguish between settings for X session and for not X
>> session - at least two places for the variables. Further more there
>> are global and user specific ... etc
>
> Yes, all of those! But I don't see how that's an answer to the OP's
> legitimate question: how to keep things that belong together in one
> place, instead of repeating it in every bit of config?

Yes. I know ~/.profile, ~/.xsession, systemd units' "Environment=...",
"systemctl --user import-enviroment" and various other things. I can
manage. I'm just asking for other ideas on how to handle things
mentioned in my original post.

Well, here's the idea of my current setup (not exact copy):

~/.profile:

# Set the usual environment:
export PATH=...
export EDITOR=...
systemctl --user import-enviroment

~/.xsession:

. ~/.profile
# Start various systemd services:
systemctl --user start graphical-session.target
/usr/bin/i3
systemctl --user stop graphical-session.target

~/.config/systemd/user/emacs.service:

[Unit]
Description=The Emacs Operating System

[Service]
Type=forking
ExecStart=/usr/bin/emacs --daemon
SuccessExitStatus=15
Restart=on-failure
TimeoutStartSec=0
TimeoutStopSec=0

[Install]
WantedBy=graphical-session.target

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A minimal relational database in Debian?

[Richard Owlett]

The last time I needed a relational database my employer was using 
dBaseII on a MS-DOS machine.

What is a functional equivalent in the Debian repository?

I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system 
provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.


https://packages.debian.org/stable/database/ was not useful as it 
doesn't categorize the list.


Suggestions?
TIA

problème débogage systemd à l'extinction système

[Alexandre Hoïde]

  Chères colistières, chers colistiers,

  Je me tourne vers vous dans l'espoir qu'une lumière jaillira de vos
entrailles, éclairant ma voie vers la résolution d'un problème qui
commence à me les briser.
  Le problème initial est une délai de 1'30'' à l'extinction
[poweroff|reboot] du système, avec les messages systemd :
[***]  A stop job is running for ifup for enp4s0 …
[***]  A stop job is running for Raise network interfaces …
  Bien entendu, dans un premier temps, j'ai écumé le WEB et essayé
les suggestions glanées, mais aucune n'a résolu le problème.
  Afin d'en comprendre la cause, j'essaie d'appliquer la méthode :
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#index2h1
à la section « Shutdown Completes Eventually ». Las, au démarrage
suivant, le fichier « /shutdown-log.txt » n'existe pas. Si bien que me
voilà à vous demander votre aide pour déboguer mon débogage.
  Pour préciser -- les instructions du lien ci-dessus n'étant pas très
détaillées -- j'ai procédé ainsi :
1. Ajout d'un « menuentry » dans « /etc/grub.d/40_custom », identique au
menuentry principal généré automatiquement par Debian, à l'exception de :
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-2-amd64 
root=UUID=04cab1ac-8020-4069-97ae-f567329ad900 systemd.log_level=debug 
systemd.log_target=kmsg log_buf_len=1M printk.devkmsg=on enforcing=0
2. $ sudo update-grub2
3. démarrage du système avec ce « menuentry » de débogage.
4. création du fichier :
/usr/lib/systemd/system-shutdown/debug.sh (-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root)
#!/bin/sh
mount -o remount,rw /
dmesg > /shutdown-log.txt
mount -o remount,ro /
5. redémarrage du système sur le « menuentry » principal.
6. Choux blanc : pas de /shutdown-log.txt ?!

  Le tout sur une Sid à jour (systemd 232-18).

-- 
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| $ post_tenebras ↲ | waouh!  ?! | $ per_systemd ↲ |
| GNU\ /|\   /   | TENEBRAS :  |
|  -- * --  | o   | #)&&*+^'.|;>%9- |
| $ who ↲/ \|_-- ~_||| =!¨!$£{]]_:`¢_´ |
| Alexandre Hoïde   |  _/| |   / \   | … … … ...---... |
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Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 02:26:08PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> I would like to hear some ideas on how to set various environment
> variables (PATH, MANPATH, EDITOR etc.) in one place that would make them
> effective everywhere. My "everywhere" means:
> 
>   - X session started through lightdm and ~/.xsession script
>   - Linux console login (bash)
>   - user's systemd services

The last one is simply not going to happen the way you seem to expect.
You should change the jobs launched by systemd to dot in the appropriate
file, instead of expecting systemd to load some interactive shell config
automatically.

As for the first two... well.  You know WHY there is a separation, right?
People put crap in .profile that would not work properly in an X config
file, because there is no terminal.  For example, /usr/games/fortune,
or something that probes the terminal settings.  The complete absence of
an underlying terminal, not to mention a TERM variable, would make many
.profile files fail, which is why .profile is not read by X startups.

However, if *you* have personally vetted your .profile and believe that
it will run safely in an X startup environment with no terminal, then
you can simply dot it in from ~/.xsessionrc and voila.

(Do not confuse ~/.xsessionrc and ~/.xsession; they are very different.)

Re: good LDAP resources

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 02:16:27PM -0800, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> I need to set-up some sort of password server for a small network so that i 
> don't have to set-up accounts on every machine.
> 
> It looks like LDAP is the best way to do that.
> 
> Is it ?

For a small network where security isn't an enormous concern, NIS is a
whole lot easier.

Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[Elimar Riesebieter]

* GiaThnYgeia  [2017-02-27 11:38 +]:

[...]
> For a while I've been trying to set the locale but everytime I install a
> package it returns locale not set returning to default C
> I used /etc/environment, and no change.
> I suspect this may be due to some skipped step on the original
> installation

Run as root:

# dpkg-reconfigure locales

You should have opened a new thread for that issue.

Elimar
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Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[Joe]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 12:20:50 +0100
Hans  wrote:

> > Check how synaptic is being started by the menu entry. Typically,
> > synaptic will be started by /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec, which uses
> > policykit to authorise an effective su for a normal user. The
> > executable synaptic is in /usr/sbin, so will probably not work from
> > a menu.  
> 
> Yes, it is as you said. There is /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec
> and /usr/sbin/synatic
> 
> > 
> > I've changed the launcher to gksudo synaptic, which gives me
> > explicit fine control with sudoers.
> >   
> 
> As I said: I do NOT use sudoers, and there is no entry or the
> user /etc/ sudoers. 
> 
> > I suspect what you're seeing is as intended.  
> 
> If so, then why not working so in KDE? And if this is intended, then
> this is a bug and a security hole, which should be fixed.
> 

I use neither LXDE nor KDE, so I would be guessing, but generally menu
operation is a function of the desktop environment, and the KDE menu
call may not be using pkexec. Or it may be using pkexec, but with a
different policy in action.

I have the common problem of using an old installation, with no
recollection of the changes I have made over years to the default
settings. For as long as I can remember, I have intended to log every
change I make, and one day perhaps I will begin...

-- 
Joe

Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[GiaThnYgeia]

to...@tuxteam.de:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:07:19AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
>> Stefan Monnier wrote:
> 
> I would like to hear some ideas on how to set various environment
> variables (PATH, MANPATH, EDITOR etc.) in one place that would make them
> effective everywhere. My "everywhere" means:
> - X session started through lightdm and ~/.xsession script
> - Linux console login (bash)
> - user's systemd services
 Put them into /etc/environment.

For a while I've been trying to set the locale but everytime I install a
package it returns locale not set returning to default C
I used /etc/environment, and no change.
I suspect this may be due to some skipped step on the original
installation as a similar installation on a similar machine does not
have this problem.  I have yet to locate the difference between the two.
I hope this is not perceived as hijacking.

Another possibly related problem I have is that although the language
env settings are for UTF8, non latin UTF8 valide characters if used as a
file name it is stored as ??.odt (example) This is a pain in the
posterior to have to rename them with a latin alphabet name and creates
all kinds of mix-up with doubling files.  Not that I want to create
filenames in other languages but downloading an archive of files with
such names makes the set unreadable (like an html set of files), the
local links break.


>>> I haven't re-tried recently, but last time:
>>> - It never worked for me.
>>> - It can't hold user-specific settings.
>>> - It can't *compute* a setting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stefan
> 
>> IMO there is a good reason for so many places where you can put variables.
>> In fact it is not good to put X related variables in a non X session -
>> right?!
> 
> There will be some that want to be different. There will be some that
> want to be the same. The OP's question was about the latter, right?
> 
>> So I do distinguish between  settings for X session and for not X session -
>> at least two places for the variables.
>> Further more there are global and user specific ... etc
> 
> Yes, all of those! But I don't see how that's an answer to the OP's
> legitimate question: how to keep things that belong together in one
> place, instead of repeating it in every bit of config?
> 
> regards
> -- tomás
> 

-- 
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Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[Hans]

> Check how synaptic is being started by the menu entry. Typically,
> synaptic will be started by /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec, which uses
> policykit to authorise an effective su for a normal user. The executable
> synaptic is in /usr/sbin, so will probably not work from a menu.

Yes, it is as you said. There is /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec
and /usr/sbin/synatic

> 
> I've changed the launcher to gksudo synaptic, which gives me explicit
> fine control with sudoers.
> 

As I said: I do NOT use sudoers, and there is no entry or the user /etc/
sudoers. 

> I suspect what you're seeing is as intended.

If so, then why not working so in KDE? And if this is intended, then this is a 
bug and a security hole, which should be fixed.

Hans

Re: Debian, nginx et Let's Encrypt

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Le 23/02/17 à 12:24, Jean-Marc  a écrit :
JM> Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:29:40 +0100
JM> andre_deb...@numericable.fr écrivait :
JM> 
JM> > Et pour un serveur Web Apache, ce serait ? :
JM> > 
JM> > --renew-hook "/bin/systemctl reload apache2.service"
JM> 
JM> Tout dépend si Apache détecte tout seul les changements ou pas.
JM> Certains programmes détectent que leurs fichiers de config' ont changé et 
font des reloads
JM> automatiquement.
JM> 
JM> nginx ne le fait pas.

Encore heureux !
Ça permet de tester la config (nginx -t) avant de lancer le reload. Si y'a un 
pb de config ça
te laisse le temps de le corriger et nginx continue de tourner avec l'ancienne 
config.

-- 
Daniel

Tout le monde est capable de créer
un système incapable de fonctionner.
Courteline

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[GiaThnYgeia]

testingAmd64LXDE

I have never, not once, been able to run synaptic in any similar system
without a root or a sudo password.  Not to execute a command, just to
get the gui up you need a password.

I don't know whether creating a user with 100% admin privileges will
still require a pass or not, I suspect it would still.  As if you add a
user in the sudo group it is the user's pass that is asked.  So
something is wrong on your specific installation.

Hans:
> Am Montag, 27. Februar 2017, 21:00:15 CET schrieb Davor Balder:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Question 1 which one: stable, testing or unstable?
> 
> testing/amd64
>>
>> Generally (to aid in your investigation):
>>
> I did, but found nothing unusual. 
> 
> If no one can confirm this, it is a problem on my system!
> 
> Hans
> 

-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

Re: Correos.es i fonts incrustades en documents

[Javier Silva]

2017-02-26 11:39 GMT+01:00 Robert Marsellés :
> Hola a tots,
>
> Escric per si algú s'ha trobat amb aquest problema i sap com sortir-se'n.
>
> --> Antecedents:
>
> 1. Necessito enviar un burofax per tal de poder demostrar davant de
> tercers que s'ha intentat tot per contactar amb l'altra part [1].
>
> 2. La web de /Correos.es/ permet fer-ho sense tenir que anar a les seves
> finestretes. Els requisits són registrar-se com a usuari i que els
> documents tinguin fonts vàlides "o" incrustades [2, 3].
>
> 3. He redactat la carta amb LaTeX.
>
> 4. Les propietats del document mostrades usant l'Evince des de un SO
> Linux i l'Adobe Acrobat Reader DC des de un SO Win7 indiquen que el
> document final està en el format PDF de versió 1.5 i totes les fonts
> estan incrustades.
>
> --> Problema:
>
> El sistema de transferència de la pàgina web de /Correos.es/ revisa el
> document, troba quelcom que no li agrada i mai l'acaba "pujant". Cap
> altra informació.
>
> M'ensumo que té a veure amb que les fonts usades (LModern) no són les
> oficials de Windows o Adobe (Arial, Calibri, Times New Roman, ...)
> encara que estiguin incrustades. Algú s'hi ha trobat?
>
> Crec que la manera més eficient d'acabar-ho és agafant un ordinador amb
> Win i fer-ho amb Word però, excuseu-me, em dona pel sac. Alguna
> alternativa a banda d'enviar-los un missatge dient-los que estan
> confonent i fent perdre el temps a la gent?
>

Hola,
Prova a enviar un PDF/A que normalment es fa servir a les
administracions públiques.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A

Salut,
Javier


> Salut i peles,
>
> robert
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.correos.es/ss/Satellite/site/pagina-telegrama_cartas_documentos/sidioma=ca_ES
>
> [2]
> http://www.correos.es/ss/Satellite/site/producto-1363190893082-telegrama_cartas_documentos/detalle_de_producto-sidioma=ca_ES
>
> [3]
> http://www.correos.es/ss/Satellite/popup/pagina-1363181400890/info?_ga=1.217818462.918195232.1415106198
>
> --
> Robert Marsellés Fontanet | GnuPG keyID 20469B7F
> mail: robert.carde...@gmail.com
> Linux User 493238
>

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[Joe]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 10:19:47 +0100
Hans  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> on my system /debian-amd64/testing) I can start Synaptic as a normal
> user, just by using the user password. In KDE this is not possible,
> there I need the root password.
> 
> I do not have sudo in use.
> 
> As I do not know, if this is a problem on my system (I have no second
> one to confirm this)., maybe please someone else could check this.
> 
> If I am correct, this is a security hole. If I am wrong, I have to
> recheck my system.
> 
>

Check how synaptic is being started by the menu entry. Typically,
synaptic will be started by /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec, which uses
policykit to authorise an effective su for a normal user. The executable
synaptic is in /usr/sbin, so will probably not work from a menu.

I've changed the launcher to gksudo synaptic, which gives me explicit
fine control with sudoers.

I suspect what you're seeing is as intended.

-- 
Joe

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[Hans]

Am Montag, 27. Februar 2017, 21:00:15 CET schrieb Davor Balder:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> Question 1 which one: stable, testing or unstable?

testing/amd64
> 
> Generally (to aid in your investigation):
> 
I did, but found nothing unusual. 

If no one can confirm this, it is a problem on my system!

Hans

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[Hans]

Hi,
I am just clickingin LXDE menu on the icon to start, then a popup menu opens 
and asks for my password (the user password NOT root) and I can install just 
as I am root.

Best

Hans
> 
> What, exactly, do you do to start synaptic? Click on something, or run a
> command in a terminal? What prompts you for a password? What version of
> synaptic do you have installed?

Re: Swift lang in Debian?

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 07:33:05PM -0500, Dale Harris wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Brian Sammon
>  wrote:
> > lack of volunteers?
> >
> > The google password is "ITP" (stands for Intent-to-Package):
> >  https://bugs.debian.org/788327
> >
> > P.S. Not _this_(http://swift-lang.org/) swift.
> >
> 
> Ah okay, well, there is some intent, at least.

Well, there was. The bug has been re-titled "RFP" (Request For Package)
due to inactivity from the ITP filer. So, there's currently no recorded
effort to package Swift in Debian.

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Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[Davor Balder]

Hi Hans,

Question 1 which one: stable, testing or unstable?

Generally (to aid in your investigation):

1.) It may be a good idea just to recheck your sudo settings first
(/etc/sudoers).

(relevant uncommented setting on this system:


##
## User privilege specification
##
root ALL=(ALL) ALL

2.) The other thing would be to check your regular user's group settings
(group memberships).

For example (on this system):

[davor@lucifer ~]$ groups davor
wheel plugdev users

Other than that, ensure you are not running as root (or sudo), ensure
you are updated, reboot and try again as regular user. LXDE is very
mature, this is unlikely to happen.


Cheers


D

On 27/02/17 20:19, Hans wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> on my system /debian-amd64/testing) I can start Synaptic as a normal user, 
> just by using the user password. In KDE this is not possible, there I need 
> the 
> root password.
>
> I do not have sudo in use.
>
> As I do not know, if this is a problem on my system (I have no second one to 
> confirm this)., maybe please someone else could check this.
>
> If I am correct, this is a security hole. If I am wrong, I have to recheck my 
> system.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Best
>
> Hans
>

Re: Security hole in LXDE?

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:19:47AM +0100, Hans wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> on my system /debian-amd64/testing) I can start Synaptic as a normal user, 
> just by using the user password. In KDE this is not possible, there I need 
> the 
> root password.
> 
> I do not have sudo in use.

What, exactly, do you do to start synaptic? Click on something, or run a command
in a terminal? What prompts you for a password? What version of synaptic do you
have installed?

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mdraid will no start at boot

[basti]

Hello,
on one of my debian machine i have a error with one md raid.

There are
md0 => /
md1 => /backup
md2 => /samba

md2 is not start/assemble after reboot, my mdadm.conf looks like

ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=1.2 name=srv01:0
UUID=42c30af1:e6986757:2c6bf608:34582a76
ARRAY /dev/md1 metadata=1.2 name=srv01:1
UUID=05b45cf9:2bf2dae8:8b4ea488:8cb4c214
# this line dones not start on boot
ARRAY /dev/md2 metadata=0.90 UUID=63226122:8d9b97bb:99109359:8e81e636


When I run mdadm --assemble --run /dev/md2 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 the array
is start.

Security hole in LXDE?

[Hans]

Hi folks,

on my system /debian-amd64/testing) I can start Synaptic as a normal user, 
just by using the user password. In KDE this is not possible, there I need the 
root password.

I do not have sudo in use.

As I do not know, if this is a problem on my system (I have no second one to 
confirm this)., maybe please someone else could check this.

If I am correct, this is a security hole. If I am wrong, I have to recheck my 
system.

Thank you for your help.

Best

Hans

Re: Correos.es i fonts incrustades en documents

[Narcis Garcia]

Sobretot per senzillesa, compatibilitat, velocitat de processament i
baix pes dels fitxers, mai no programo la generació de fitxers PDF amb
tipografies afegides (incrustades).

T'adjunto (si la llista m'ho permet) una taula de compatibilitat de
tipografies assumides per PostScript i PDF.


El 26/02/17 a les 11:39, Robert Marsellés ha escrit:
> Hola a tots,
> 
> Escric per si algú s'ha trobat amb aquest problema i sap com sortir-se'n.
> 
> --> Antecedents:
> 
> 1. Necessito enviar un burofax per tal de poder demostrar davant de
> tercers que s'ha intentat tot per contactar amb l'altra part [1].
> 
> 2. La web de /Correos.es/ permet fer-ho sense tenir que anar a les seves
> finestretes. Els requisits són registrar-se com a usuari i que els
> documents tinguin fonts vàlides "o" incrustades [2, 3].
> 
> 3. He redactat la carta amb LaTeX.
> 
> 4. Les propietats del document mostrades usant l'Evince des de un SO
> Linux i l'Adobe Acrobat Reader DC des de un SO Win7 indiquen que el
> document final està en el format PDF de versió 1.5 i totes les fonts
> estan incrustades.
> 
> --> Problema:
> 
> El sistema de transferència de la pàgina web de /Correos.es/ revisa el
> document, troba quelcom que no li agrada i mai l'acaba "pujant". Cap
> altra informació.
> 
> M'ensumo que té a veure amb que les fonts usades (LModern) no són les
> oficials de Windows o Adobe (Arial, Calibri, Times New Roman, ...)
> encara que estiguin incrustades. Algú s'hi ha trobat?
> 
> Crec que la manera més eficient d'acabar-ho és agafant un ordinador amb
> Win i fer-ho amb Word però, excuseu-me, em dona pel sac. Alguna
> alternativa a banda d'enviar-los un missatge dient-los que estan
> confonent i fent perdre el temps a la gent?
> 
> Salut i peles,
> 
> robert
> 
> 
> [1]
> http://www.correos.es/ss/Satellite/site/pagina-telegrama_cartas_documentos/sidioma=ca_ES
> 
> [2]
> http://www.correos.es/ss/Satellite/site/producto-1363190893082-telegrama_cartas_documentos/detalle_de_producto-sidioma=ca_ES
> 
> [3]
> http://www.correos.es/ss/Satellite/popup/pagina-1363181400890/info?_ga=1.217818462.918195232.1415106198
> 


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Re: wifi mystere

[François TOURDE]

Le 17224ième jour après Epoch,
Thierry Chatelet écrivait:

[...]

> Elle emene l' ordi chez elle, ravie. Et là, la carte ne voit aucun réseaux.
>
> Elle va à la B.U. et là ça connecte direct! Retour maison, pas de
> réseaux! (A savoir l' ordi de son copain trouve une dizaine de
> réseau. Elle va chez une copine et là ça marche impec!

Peut-être le domaine est mal positionné. Que contient /etc/default/crda
? Le cas échéant, installe le paquet crda

Mes 2¢

Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[tomas]

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:07:19AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
> 
> >>> I would like to hear some ideas on how to set various environment
> >>> variables (PATH, MANPATH, EDITOR etc.) in one place that would make them
> >>> effective everywhere. My "everywhere" means:
> >>> - X session started through lightdm and ~/.xsession script
> >>> - Linux console login (bash)
> >>> - user's systemd services
> >> Put them into /etc/environment.
> > 
> > I haven't re-tried recently, but last time:
> > - It never worked for me.
> > - It can't hold user-specific settings.
> > - It can't *compute* a setting.
> > 
> > 
> > Stefan
> 
> IMO there is a good reason for so many places where you can put variables.
> In fact it is not good to put X related variables in a non X session -
> right?!

There will be some that want to be different. There will be some that
want to be the same. The OP's question was about the latter, right?

> So I do distinguish between  settings for X session and for not X session -
> at least two places for the variables.
> Further more there are global and user specific ... etc

Yes, all of those! But I don't see how that's an answer to the OP's
legitimate question: how to keep things that belong together in one
place, instead of repeating it in every bit of config?

regards
- -- tomás
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Re: The same environment variables everywhere

[deloptes]

Stefan Monnier wrote:

>>> I would like to hear some ideas on how to set various environment
>>> variables (PATH, MANPATH, EDITOR etc.) in one place that would make them
>>> effective everywhere. My "everywhere" means:
>>> - X session started through lightdm and ~/.xsession script
>>> - Linux console login (bash)
>>> - user's systemd services
>> Put them into /etc/environment.
> 
> I haven't re-tried recently, but last time:
> - It never worked for me.
> - It can't hold user-specific settings.
> - It can't *compute* a setting.
> 
> 
> Stefan

IMO there is a good reason for so many places where you can put variables.
In fact it is not good to put X related variables in a non X session -
right?!
So I do distinguish between  settings for X session and for not X session -
at least two places for the variables.
Further more there are global and user specific ... etc

regards