Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:

Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and full
response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
corresponding partitions with guided partitioning).
More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible graphics
and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from backports (4.9),
these problems were resolved. I have tried installing Linux-image 4.9
from backports (using the command line) now again, the problem persists.
However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who said he has the
exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running Gnome-Classic
(Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem but have
received no response from him.
All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
Outputs:
inxi commands say 'command not found'
lspci  :
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
[8086:22b1] (rev 35)
Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device
[8086:22dc] (rev 35)
Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
(rev 35)

I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539

Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?

thanks a lot,


If you have not already upgraded again, do you have the packages "xorg 
and dkms" installed. If not install them and reboot.

--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

[David Wright]

On Mon 22 May 2017 at 09:55:42 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:40:47PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > As I understand it:
> > 
> > *   'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision
> > -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or new packages -- e.g.
> > icedove 1:45.6.0-1~deb8u1 to thunderbird 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1).
> > 
> > *   'apt-get dist-upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new major
> > revision -- e.g. Debian 7 to Debian 8.
> 
> It's not *that* drastic. Rolling forward usually implies doing
> something to your sources.list (unless you state there something
> like "stable" or "testing", which change their meaning when a
> release is made).
> 
> As far as I understood it (corrections welcome!):
> 
> Upgrade just upgrades packages to newer versions, as far as possible.
> It *never* removes packages, even if that means that it can't advance
> a package's version to the newest. Dist-upgrade would remove (replace)
> packages when necessary.

Nor will upgrade add a new, now necessary, package.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Custom Debian LiveCD?

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 23/05/17 10:23, Anonymous wrote:

I'd like to make my own custom Debian livecd for private
use. However, when I search for this on the web it's either
posts which talk about discontinued programs which have
been abandoned and/or no longer work, or pages with step by
step instructions, dozens of pages long, and usually followed
by posts with attempts to correct the tutorial, complain
about it being broken and so on. Thank you for the fish.


live-build still works, and now has UEFI support. The debian-live 
mailing list is a better place to start. What release do you want to 
target? I made a build on unstable for unstable and included a bunch of 
utilities and customisations. The installer on my live image did not 
work so I used a stock installer (stretch RC3), but the live image 
itself worked well from USB.


I have tried live-wrapper many times but never got it to work for 
unstable. I made many bug reports. It seems lacking in features.


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

problemas de red

[Oscar Martinez]

buenas tardes.
la verdad con este grupo he visto la luz, a tantos problemas que se me
estan presentando donde trabajo tenemos un servidor en debian 6 el cual
supuestamente solo estaa para reparte ip a 150 equipos con linux min 17 y
20 maquinas con windows xp y 7, el administrador de red me indica que las
maquinas tienen configurada una ip fija, y no tiene un proxy configurado el
firewall esta desactivado, y sufrimos de caidas del servicio de internet
sucesivamente.

y el administrador de la red, nos explica que es un equipo, en especial que
nos tumba la red

antes estabamos totalmente en windows y desde que migramos a linux se nos
esta presentando el problema quien me puede dar luces para resolver y
determinar cual es el problema gracias lista

Re: Apt Question

[songbird]

Michael Milliman wrote:
> I have, for various reasons, the repositories from stable (Jessie),
> stretch, and sid in my sources.list file. I have Stretch installed and
> have it running for some time.  On occasion, there is a bug in Stretch
> and I revert to the stable version of the package until the bug gets
> worked out.  I also, on occasion, use a more advanced version of the
> package and get it from sid (with a careful look at the proposed changes
> to the system when doing so).  I have set synaptic to prefer the Stretch
> distribution.  However, when I reload, and tell synaptic to mark all
> upgrades, it marks upgrades which it will pull from sid.  Is there a way
> to tell synaptic to ignore those upgrades, while allowing me to manually
> install them should I wish to do so?  I had thought that telling
> synaptic to prefer the Stretch distribution would have handled that, but
> I guess not.  I figure I'm just missing something.

  it seems to follow the version once you've
upgraded from a different repository.

  you can always uncheck the apt lines for stretch,
and sid in the Settings -> Repositories and then do 
an update to reload.  then that will show you only
the versions available in Jessie.  then any versions
you have upgraded beyond Jessie will show up as
Installed (local or obsolete) in the Status selection.


  songbird

Custom Debian LiveCD?

[Anonymous]

I'd like to make my own custom Debian livecd for private
use. However, when I search for this on the web it's either
posts which talk about discontinued programs which have
been abandoned and/or no longer work, or pages with step by
step instructions, dozens of pages long, and usually followed
by posts with attempts to correct the tutorial, complain
about it being broken and so on. Thank you for the fish.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 22 May 2017 15:12:39 Anil Duggirala wrote:
> Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines
> and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ??

If you are installing from scratch, yes.  If you are upgrading, go straight 
from "stable" or "jessie" to "stretch", and don't bother with "testing".

Lisi

> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:05 AM, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 22 May 2017 at 08:54:59 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal.
> > > I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian
> > > Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install
> > > that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable release
> >
> > You already have Stretch installed. Ok, it is not yet released as stable
> > but it is nearly there. Make sure your sources.list has stretch and not
> > testing for the deb lines to keep the machine on stable.
> >
> > > right? I'm really afraid of testing, the whole reason I like Debian is
> > > for its stability, but using stable would require me to install various
> > > packages from backports maybe?? I did try installing that newer kernel,
> > > that didn't work.
> >
> > At this stage of the freeze you are not risking much in terms of
> > stability. No need to be afraid.
> >
> > --
> > Brian.

Re: Is this sources.list correct?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 22 May 2017 21:11:48 Michael Milliman wrote:
> On 05/22/2017 06:21 AM, Fungi4All wrote:
> >>  Original Message 
> >> Subject: Re: Is this sources.list correct?
> >> UTC Time: May 22, 2017 6:09 AM
> >> From: compro...@list.comprofix.com
> >> fjfj...@protonmail.com
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:45:05AM -0400, Fjfj109 wrote:
> >> > On Stretch, upgraded from Jessie. https://paste.debian.net/933553/
> >>
> >> When updating from Jessie to Stretch. Just replace all the 'Jessie'
> >> references in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to 'Stretch'
> >>
> >> You can do this with a quick sed (backup your sources.list first):
> >>
> >> sed -i 's|jessie|stretch|g' /etc/apt/sources.list
> >>
> >> Your sources look OK. I compared them to a Jessie one that I have and
> >> other than the repo you are referencing looks good.
> >
> > This is an optional addition to consider:
> > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch-backports/
> >
> > https://backports.debian.org/ read some before you decide
>
> You might also consider adding contrib and/or non-free to the lines in
> your souces.list file.  Many people have issues with non-free,
> nevertheless, there are some packages that are of use in both of these
> sections of the repositories.  Just add the words contrib non-free after
> main in each line (separated by spaces).
>
> >> Thanks
> >> Matt
> >
> > AK

For the archives, since pastes do not endure, this is the sources list:
---
  GNU nano 2.7.4
  
File: /etc/apt/sources.list 
   

# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.8.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 
20170506-14:10]/ jessie main

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.8.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 
20170506-14:10]/ jessie main

deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stretch main

deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main


# stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main

---
HTH
Lisi

Re: Samsung ML-1915 printer

[Fungi4All]

can anyone email attachments to the list, I thought you couldn't do it.
maybe use that paste.debian.org?

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Samsung ML-1915 printer
UTC Time: May 22, 2017 9:40 AM
From: a...@cityscape.co.uk
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Sat 20 May 2017 at 08:27:25 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Brian  writes:
>
> > Any serious problem with this command would mean there had been an utter
> > and complete breakdown in the CUPS printing system. Nobody would have
> > a hope of printing.
> >
> > Now do 'lpinfo -v' with the printer plugged into the USB port. Look for
> > "direct usb://" and alter the command in 7 to
> >
> > lpadmin -p ML191x -v usb:// -E -m 
> > lsb/usr/custom/Samsung_ML-191x_Series.ppd
> >
> > ML191x should now be shown in the printing dialogs of applications. Can
> > you print from an application or with
> >
> > lp -d ML191x /etc/nsswitch ?
>
> I did everything you said, but no print! I don't know what to do... ML191x is
> shown in the printing dialog of application, but it won't print... neither
> using lp... I'm desperate... What can the problem be...? What should I do
> now?

>From a previous mail (with typo corrected):

> Now (as root again)
> 8. cupsfilter -p /etc/cups/ppd/ML191x.ppd -e -m printer/foo message.txt > 
> out.prn 2>log.

Replace message.txt with /etc/nsswitch and obtain out.prn and log.
Compress out.prn and log with gzip and send the files to the list
attached to your next mail. Compare your files with the ones I sent
and comment on any differences (apart from size).

--
Brian.

emptyfile.bz2
Description: application/bzip

Re: Qs re: ActiveDirectory authentication & perms

[Kent West]

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Kent West  wrote:

> I'm not quite sure what questions to ask...
>
> I have a Debian box used by 10 or 12 people on a university campus; most
> of them are using it just as file-storage via Samba from their Windows/Macs
> boxes; a few are ssh'ing into it, etc, for other usages; some have web
> sites on it.
>
> For years their accounts have been maintained as local accounts on that
> Debian box, but as we're swapping out hardware, I'm also thinking it's time
> to swap out account management to let our campus-wide Active Directory
> provide their accounts instead of them (and me) having to maintain two
> separate sets of account credentials (three, if you include the samba
> file-sharing account on the old Debian setup).
>
> After considerable hair-pulling, I've managed to get the box to
> authenticate using their AD credentials, so that a user can simply ssh in
> without having an account on the box, using their AD credentials. But of
> course, their User IDs in AD are different than they were on the old Debian
> box, so their file permissions are different.
>
> Since it's just a dozen users or so, I can easily "id" their AD UID and
> "chown -R" their files in their home directory (which have been copied over
> manually from the old Debian box) to their AD UID.
>
> But that leaves several questions:
>
> 
>
> 3) Can I limit logins/file-sharing to just a subset of campus users (one
> department, not just anyone having a campus account)?
>
>
To answer my own question on this.

A detail I left out was that I set up my AD-authentication via "realmd", as
per this site:

http://www.alandmoore.com/blog/2015/05/06/joining-debian-8-to-active-directory/

To restrict logins to just certain users/groups, simply edit
/etc/sssd/sssd.conf, like as in this snippet:


#access_provider = ad
access_provider = simple
simple_allow_users = westk
simple_allow_groups = technology support admins,Mathematics


I could have left the "= ad" option and used more complex "allow" lines
(see docs for sssd.conf), but the "simple" option was easier. Anyone not
specified in an "allow" line is implicitly denied.

Don't forget you have to restart sssd after making any changes - systemctl
restart sssd

Note that there are other ways of accomplishing this task also (tinkering
with /etc/pam.d/sshd & /etc/pam.d/login & /etc/security/access.conf & etc),
but this route does what I need.



-- 
Kent West<")))><
Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

Thanks a lot, thanks Micheal,

On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 03:18 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/22/2017 12:28 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > thanks a lot Fungi,
> > I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3
> > from here https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> > and then after finishing installation will change 'testing' for
> > 'jessie', can I do that?
> > thanks a lot,
> > 
> No, after installing, you want to change testing for stretch...in fact,
> I would use stretch just to start with, then no change will be needed
> after installation.  If you do a fresh install with the stretch
> installation CD/DVD, then it should handle the sources.list file for
> you, and you won't have to change anything.
> 
> > P.S. sorry for spamming your email Fungi
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Kent West wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it.  I have
> >> run stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a
> >> sense that sid is even lighter and more stable in hardware
> >> resources.  With all the fooling around I do I have yet to see
> >> anything break or freeze or do anything unexpected in sid. 
> >> Stretch is so stable it is boring :)   Now Jessie, that is a
> >> really unstable system ;b   even your graphics don't like it.
> >>
> >>
> >> I have run sid (unstable) for years (a decade? more?), and although
> >> there's often little breakages (uh oh, can't install Firefox; wait a
> >> day and a half; okay, all better now, it's installed), I can only
> >> recall one time (8 years ago? 10?) when the breakage was serious
> >> enough that it actually borked my box so I couldn't do anything with
> >> it. But even that, as I recall, only had me broken a day or so, as I
> >> either manually fixed it, or just reinstalled a fresh sid, or waited
> >> until the breakage "fixed itself". The conclusion I have come to after
> >> all these years is that for a workstation that doesn't have a
> >> mission-critical need for five-9's uptime, sid/unstable is a good
> >> solution for staying up-to-date and happy, but it's probably not
> >> suitable for a mission-critical box.
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Kent West<")))><
> >> Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 73's,
> WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray
> 

Apt Question

[Michael Milliman]

I have, for various reasons, the repositories from stable (Jessie),
stretch, and sid in my sources.list file. I have Stretch installed and
have it running for some time.  On occasion, there is a bug in Stretch
and I revert to the stable version of the package until the bug gets
worked out.  I also, on occasion, use a more advanced version of the
package and get it from sid (with a careful look at the proposed changes
to the system when doing so).  I have set synaptic to prefer the Stretch
distribution.  However, when I reload, and tell synaptic to mark all
upgrades, it marks upgrades which it will pull from sid.  Is there a way
to tell synaptic to ignore those upgrades, while allowing me to manually
install them should I wish to do so?  I had thought that telling
synaptic to prefer the Stretch distribution would have handled that, but
I guess not.  I figure I'm just missing something.
-- 
73's,
WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray

Re: Qs re: ActiveDirectory authentication & perms

[deloptes]

Kent West wrote:

> I'm not quite sure what questions to ask...
> 
> I have a Debian box used by 10 or 12 people on a university campus; most
> of them are using it just as file-storage via Samba from their
> Windows/Macs boxes; a few are ssh'ing into it, etc, for other usages; some
> have web sites on it.
> 
> For years their accounts have been maintained as local accounts on that
> Debian box, but as we're swapping out hardware, I'm also thinking it's
> time to swap out account management to let our campus-wide Active
> Directory provide their accounts instead of them (and me) having to
> maintain two separate sets of account credentials (three, if you include
> the samba file-sharing account on the old Debian setup).
> 
> After considerable hair-pulling, I've managed to get the box to
> authenticate using their AD credentials, so that a user can simply ssh in
> without having an account on the box, using their AD credentials. But of
> course, their User IDs in AD are different than they were on the old
> Debian box, so their file permissions are different.
> 
> Since it's just a dozen users or so, I can easily "id" their AD UID and
> "chown -R" their files in their home directory (which have been copied
> over manually from the old Debian box) to their AD UID.
> 
> But that leaves several questions:
> 
> 1) If I just "chown -R", that changes the ownership of all the files,
> regardless how the files may have been set-up on the old box. For example,
> I notice in at least one web directory for one user, the files were owned
> by www-data, with the group ownership set to the group name corresponding
> to the user's name on the old box. Changing that ownership from "www-data"
> to "joe_user" might break things. Is there a way to just chown the
> ownership of files already owned by the old username?
> 
> 2) The group that all the AD-authenticated users are in is "domain users".
> That means that any files formerly owned by suzy:suzy are now owned by
> suzy:"domain users", and if a file is set to 770 (or similar), any one of
> the people logging in can access any other person's files as a member of
> that group. Not good.
> 
> 2a) What's the best route for dealing with this group ownership issue? Can
> I remap the group for all AD-authenticated users to be their own username,
> like it was in the old Debian setup? Is that even a good idea?
> 
> 2b) I'm skittish of having spaces in group names (or files, etc), and
> would rather that "domain users" be something like "domain_users"; does
> the AD authentication process have some way of remapping that name to one
> without spaces? (Or this may be a moot question, depending on the answer
> to 2a above.)
> 
> 3) Can I limit logins/file-sharing to just a subset of campus users (one
> department, not just anyone having a campus account)?
> 
> 4) I haven't even begun to think about how to tie this into their samba
> (or is it "cifs" nowadays?) file shares. Any pointers dealing with that
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

I think your questions a properl addressed to the samba mailing list.

You can look into the samba configuration options - especially user/group
mapping. For the read/write permissions you can enforce specific or look
into acls. you can not remap group to username AFAIR - the name is not
important - important is the id behind the name. 2b again group mapping
question - but there is nothing wrong with spaces in this context - it
boils down to the gid again. 3) I think you can work with dedicated group
or you would have to maintain a list of allowed users. 4) look carefully in
the samba documentation there are actually a good guides for your scenario,
where almost all of this is explained. You are not discovering the steam
engine

https://www.howtoforge.com/samba_active_directory
https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ad-integration.html
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Joining_a_Samba_DC_to_an_Existing_Active_Directory
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba,_Active_Directory_%26_LDAP

regards

Re: Firefox no soporta cpu sin SSE2

[Miguel Matos]

Asking propertly in the Internet's main language (inserte emoji de
bajando los hombros, olvidé el nombre)

El día 22 de mayo de 2017, 16:29, fernando sainz
 escribió:
> El día 22 de mayo de 2017, 21:59, Rafael Cantos Villanueva
>  escribió:
>> La búsqueda en google de "firefox sse2" te da la página de mozilla con
>> información.
>>
>> S2.
>>
>>
>> Sí, ya la había visto, pero navegando por Internet había visto otras
>> informaciones que decían que ya iba mal este tipo de procesadores con la
>> versión 48 y anteriores, por eso era. Iceweasel no sé si lleva la misma
>> numeración que firefox o si va de forma diferente.
>>
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>> Rafa
>>
>>
>
> No sé, pero un una maquina antigua como dices yo no iría mas allá de
> la versión estable de Debian, Jessie, que tiene la versión 45 que creo
> que no te dará problemas.
>
> En Jessie ya se volvió a incorporar firefox dentro de la paquetería
> (supongo que se resolvieron los problemas que dieron lugar a la
> versión iceweasel que si, llevaba la misma numeración).
>
> S2.
>

Encontré una web que hace referencia al tema, aunque suelen hablar de
versiones para windows, pero es una pista al menos:
http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24=50032

El punto clave dice: Firefox 48.0.2 is now the last version to work in
non SSE2 CPUs

Por ahí se puede iniciar... Como lo que quieres buscar no está
completo, tuve que darle vueltas a las expresiones y usar la búsqueda
así: 
https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=firefox+on+processors+without+sse2=firefox

-- 

Ayuda para hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://is.gd/NJIwRz

Re: Firefox no soporta cpu sin SSE2

[fernando sainz]

El día 22 de mayo de 2017, 21:59, Rafael Cantos Villanueva
 escribió:
> La búsqueda en google de "firefox sse2" te da la página de mozilla con
> información.
>
> S2.
>
>
> Sí, ya la había visto, pero navegando por Internet había visto otras
> informaciones que decían que ya iba mal este tipo de procesadores con la
> versión 48 y anteriores, por eso era. Iceweasel no sé si lleva la misma
> numeración que firefox o si va de forma diferente.
>
>
> Saludos
>
> Rafa
>
>

No sé, pero un una maquina antigua como dices yo no iría mas allá de
la versión estable de Debian, Jessie, que tiene la versión 45 que creo
que no te dará problemas.

En Jessie ya se volvió a incorporar firefox dentro de la paquetería
(supongo que se resolvieron los problemas que dieron lugar a la
versión iceweasel que si, llevaba la misma numeración).

S2.

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

[Michael Milliman]

On 05/22/2017 02:55 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:40:47PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> As I understand it:
> 
>> *   'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision
>> -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or new packages -- e.g.
>> icedove 1:45.6.0-1~deb8u1 to thunderbird 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1).
> 
>> *   'apt-get dist-upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new major
>> revision -- e.g. Debian 7 to Debian 8.
> 
> It's not *that* drastic. Rolling forward usually implies doing
> something to your sources.list (unless you state there something
> like "stable" or "testing", which change their meaning when a
> release is made).
> 
> As far as I understood it (corrections welcome!):
> 
> Upgrade just upgrades packages to newer versions, as far as possible.
> It *never* removes packages, even if that means that it can't advance
> a package's version to the newest. Dist-upgrade would remove (replace)
> packages when necessary.
> 
> E.g. if you have some appfoo depending on libblurb, and there's a
> newer version of apfoo depending on libblah, which conflicts with
> libblurb, upgrade would be stuck at the older version, whereas
> dist-upgrade would (other dependencies allowing it) replace libblurb
> with libblah, thus clearing the path for apfoo's new version.
> 
I think you are correct on the way upgrade vs. dist-upgrade works.  I
wasn't sure myself, but your explanation brought it into focus and made
some stuff I've read before make sense.  Thanks :)
> cheers
> -- t
> 

-- 
73's,
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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Michael Milliman]

On 05/22/2017 12:28 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> thanks a lot Fungi,
> I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3
> from here https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> and then after finishing installation will change 'testing' for
> 'jessie', can I do that?
> thanks a lot,
> 
No, after installing, you want to change testing for stretch...in fact,
I would use stretch just to start with, then no change will be needed
after installation.  If you do a fresh install with the stretch
installation CD/DVD, then it should handle the sources.list file for
you, and you won't have to change anything.

> P.S. sorry for spamming your email Fungi
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Kent West wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it.  I have
>> run stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a
>> sense that sid is even lighter and more stable in hardware
>> resources.  With all the fooling around I do I have yet to see
>> anything break or freeze or do anything unexpected in sid. 
>> Stretch is so stable it is boring :)   Now Jessie, that is a
>> really unstable system ;b   even your graphics don't like it.
>>
>>
>> I have run sid (unstable) for years (a decade? more?), and although
>> there's often little breakages (uh oh, can't install Firefox; wait a
>> day and a half; okay, all better now, it's installed), I can only
>> recall one time (8 years ago? 10?) when the breakage was serious
>> enough that it actually borked my box so I couldn't do anything with
>> it. But even that, as I recall, only had me broken a day or so, as I
>> either manually fixed it, or just reinstalled a fresh sid, or waited
>> until the breakage "fixed itself". The conclusion I have come to after
>> all these years is that for a workstation that doesn't have a
>> mission-critical need for five-9's uptime, sid/unstable is a good
>> solution for staying up-to-date and happy, but it's probably not
>> suitable for a mission-critical box.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Kent West<")))><
>> Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
> 

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Re: Is this sources.list correct?

[Michael Milliman]

On 05/22/2017 06:21 AM, Fungi4All wrote:
> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: Is this sources.list correct?
>> UTC Time: May 22, 2017 6:09 AM
>> From: compro...@list.comprofix.com
>> fjfj...@protonmail.com
>>
>> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:45:05AM -0400, Fjfj109 wrote:
>> > On Stretch, upgraded from Jessie. https://paste.debian.net/933553/
>>
>> When updating from Jessie to Stretch. Just replace all the 'Jessie'
>> references in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to 'Stretch'
>>
>> You can do this with a quick sed (backup your sources.list first):
>>
>> sed -i 's|jessie|stretch|g' /etc/apt/sources.list
>>
>> Your sources look OK. I compared them to a Jessie one that I have and
>> other than the repo you are referencing looks good.
> 
> This is an optional addition to consider:
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch-backports/
> 
> https://backports.debian.org/ read some before you decide
>>
You might also consider adding contrib and/or non-free to the lines in
your souces.list file.  Many people have issues with non-free,
nevertheless, there are some packages that are of use in both of these
sections of the repositories.  Just add the words contrib non-free after
main in each line (separated by spaces).
>> Thanks
>> Matt
>>
> AK

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Re: Firefox no soporta cpu sin SSE2

[Rafael Cantos Villanueva]

La búsqueda en google de "firefox sse2" te da la página de mozilla con
información.

S2.


Sí, ya la había visto, pero navegando por Internet había visto otras 
informaciones que decían que ya iba mal este tipo de procesadores con la 
versión 48 y anteriores, por eso era. Iceweasel no sé si lleva la misma 
numeración que firefox o si va de forma diferente.


Saludos

Rafa

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Re: [debian] Indicações de teclados

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 11:32:40AM -0300, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 03:18:10PM -0300, Tobias Sette wrote:
> > Menu -> Configurações -> Teclado. Role até o final, clique no mais e
> > preencha os campos.
> 
>   Depois disso dei uma outra olhada no KDE e encontrei onde configurar
>   as teclas.  Isso é útil para teclados que não possuem as teclas de
>   multimídia.
> 
>   PS:  Esse sistema da lista do debian é horrível.  Eu seleciono para
>   responder e a resposta vai somente para o remetente, não para a
>   lista.  Usando mutt eu tenho de apertar a letra "g' para responder
>   ao invés de "r".  Tenho recurso para responder corretamente mas o
>   hábito de apertar a letra "r" para todas outras coisas acaba
>   atrapalhando.

as listas do Debian não setam Reply-To de propósito¹, por isso
"responder" responde pro remetente.

no mutt vc quer usar L (list-reply) ao invés de r (reply), que vai quase
sempre fazer a coisa certa e responder para a lista. quem usa um cliente
de email fuleiro até tem direito de ficar chatiado e xingar muito no
twitter, mas você não tem desculpa. ;-)

¹ https://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html


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Re: Firefox no soporta cpu sin SSE2

[fernando sainz]

El día 22 de mayo de 2017, 21:15, Rafael Cantos Villanueva
 escribió:
> Buenas
>
>
> Quiero volver a la vida un viejo portátil con una CPU que no tiene SSE2, y
> las versiones modernas de Firefox, y supongo que de iceweasel, requieren
> procesadores que soporten SSE2. ¿Cuál es la última versión de alguno de
> estos navegadores que soporte procesadores antiguos? Ya sé el tema de la
> seguridad, pero estos son los únicos navegadores accesibles con orca.
> tampoco es que vaya a ponerme a navegar, más bien es para pruebas y poco
> más.
>
> Saludos
>
> Rafa
>
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La búsqueda en google de "firefox sse2" te da la página de mozilla con
información.

S2.

Firefox no soporta cpu sin SSE2

[Rafael Cantos Villanueva]

Buenas


Quiero volver a la vida un viejo portátil con una CPU que no tiene SSE2, 
y las versiones modernas de Firefox, y supongo que de iceweasel, 
requieren procesadores que soporten SSE2. ¿Cuál es la última versión de 
alguno de estos navegadores que soporte procesadores antiguos? Ya sé el 
tema de la seguridad, pero estos son los únicos navegadores accesibles 
con orca. tampoco es que vaya a ponerme a navegar, más bien es para 
pruebas y poco más.


Saludos

Rafa

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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

thanks a lot Fungi,
I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3
from here https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/and then after 
finishing installation will change 'testing' for
'jessie', can I do that?thanks a lot,

P.S. sorry for spamming your email Fungi


On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Kent West wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All
>  wrote:>> 
>> 
>> The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it.  I have run
>> stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a sense
>> that sid is even lighter and more stable in hardware resources.  With
>> all the fooling around I do I have yet to see anything break or
>> freeze or do anything unexpected in sid.  Stretch is so stable it is
>> boring :)   Now Jessie, that is a really unstable system ;b  
>> even your graphics don't like it.> 
> I have run sid (unstable) for years (a decade? more?), and although
> there's often little breakages (uh oh, can't install Firefox; wait a
> day and a half; okay, all better now, it's installed), I can only
> recall one time (8 years ago? 10?) when the breakage was serious
> enough that it actually borked my box so I couldn't do anything with
> it. But even that, as I recall, only had me broken a day or so, as I
> either manually fixed it, or just reinstalled a fresh sid, or waited
> until the breakage "fixed itself". The conclusion I have come to after
> all these years is that for a workstation that doesn't have a mission-
> critical need for five-9's uptime, sid/unstable is a good solution for
> staying up-to-date and happy, but it's probably not suitable for a mission-
> critical box.> 
> 
> -- 
> Kent West<")))>< 
> Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

Re: [A bit OT] Diagnosing home network

[Kent West]

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Gene Heskett  wrote:

>
> This IoT stuff is way too damned close to 1984, the book.
>
>
http://anonymous-news.com/11-year-old-shocks-cybersecurity-experts-anything-wi-fi-can-weaponized/

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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Kent West]

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All  wrote:

>
>
> The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it.  I have run
> stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a sense that sid
> is even lighter and more stable in hardware resources.  With all the
> fooling around I do I have yet to see anything break or freeze or do
> anything unexpected in sid.  Stretch is so stable it is boring :)   Now
> Jessie, that is a really unstable system ;b   even your graphics don't
> like it.
>

I have run sid (unstable) for years (a decade? more?), and although there's
often little breakages (uh oh, can't install Firefox; wait a day and a
half; okay, all better now, it's installed), I can only recall one time (8
years ago? 10?) when the breakage was serious enough that it actually
borked my box so I couldn't do anything with it. But even that, as I
recall, only had me broken a day or so, as I either manually fixed it, or
just reinstalled a fresh sid, or waited until the breakage "fixed itself".
The conclusion I have come to after all these years is that for a
workstation that doesn't have a mission-critical need for five-9's uptime,
sid/unstable is a good solution for staying up-to-date and happy, but it's
probably not suitable for a mission-critical box.


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Qs re: ActiveDirectory authentication & perms

[Kent West]

I'm not quite sure what questions to ask...

I have a Debian box used by 10 or 12 people on a university campus; most of
them are using it just as file-storage via Samba from their Windows/Macs
boxes; a few are ssh'ing into it, etc, for other usages; some have web
sites on it.

For years their accounts have been maintained as local accounts on that
Debian box, but as we're swapping out hardware, I'm also thinking it's time
to swap out account management to let our campus-wide Active Directory
provide their accounts instead of them (and me) having to maintain two
separate sets of account credentials (three, if you include the samba
file-sharing account on the old Debian setup).

After considerable hair-pulling, I've managed to get the box to
authenticate using their AD credentials, so that a user can simply ssh in
without having an account on the box, using their AD credentials. But of
course, their User IDs in AD are different than they were on the old Debian
box, so their file permissions are different.

Since it's just a dozen users or so, I can easily "id" their AD UID and
"chown -R" their files in their home directory (which have been copied over
manually from the old Debian box) to their AD UID.

But that leaves several questions:

1) If I just "chown -R", that changes the ownership of all the files,
regardless how the files may have been set-up on the old box. For example,
I notice in at least one web directory for one user, the files were owned
by www-data, with the group ownership set to the group name corresponding
to the user's name on the old box. Changing that ownership from "www-data"
to "joe_user" might break things. Is there a way to just chown the
ownership of files already owned by the old username?

2) The group that all the AD-authenticated users are in is "domain users".
That means that any files formerly owned by suzy:suzy are now owned by
suzy:"domain users", and if a file is set to 770 (or similar), any one of
the people logging in can access any other person's files as a member of
that group. Not good.

2a) What's the best route for dealing with this group ownership issue? Can
I remap the group for all AD-authenticated users to be their own username,
like it was in the old Debian setup? Is that even a good idea?

2b) I'm skittish of having spaces in group names (or files, etc), and would
rather that "domain users" be something like "domain_users"; does the AD
authentication process have some way of remapping that name to one without
spaces? (Or this may be a moot question, depending on the answer to 2a
above.)

3) Can I limit logins/file-sharing to just a subset of campus users (one
department, not just anyone having a campus account)?

4) I haven't even begun to think about how to tie this into their samba (or
is it "cifs" nowadays?) file shares. Any pointers dealing with that would
be appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: [A bit OT] Diagnosing home network

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 22 May 2017 08:28:54 Dan Purgert wrote:

> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 20, 2017 09:38:21 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> You'll note no mention of wifi here as its turned off unless I have
> >> children visiting with their smart phones.  wifi is slower, and
> >> subject to being used by the neighbors as I found my net usage
> >> after the kids had been in was up about 80 Gb a month later.
> >
> > You know there are security measures available for WiFi, right?  I
> > do two things, I use one of the more advanced encryption protocols
> > (something like WPA-2 (and maybe some more initials at the end??),
> > and, I have it setup so that it doesn't announce its presence--only
> > if someone knows the name can they try to enter a password and
> > login.
>
> Probably WPA2-PSK ("Pre Shared Key") -- just means "password auth".
> TBH, not having the SSID transmitted is actually LESS secure (overall)
> than just having it transmit, due to the fact that your client devices
> (phone, laptop, etc) have to broadcast "hey, I'm looking for SSID,
> any APs in range have that one?"
>
> If the devices aren't leaving your house (e.g. your Nest thermostat,
> or similar) it's a bit of "6 one way / half dozen the other", and
> won't really matter.

Very carefully, old fart-itis probably at work, none of that stuff 
resides here. This IoT stuff is way too damned close to 1984, the book.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Fungi4All]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and 
Gnome.
UTC Time: May 22, 2017 1:54 PM
From: anilduggir...@fastmail.fm

Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal.
I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian
Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install
that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable release
right?

FAQ101 No, if you chose testing (replace in sources.list or in synaptics list 
the word jessie with testing) once stretch is stable you will be there, just 
like if you had just installed Debian9 from the disk and added all your current 
packages. But if you don't replace testing with stretch you will end up one 
step beyond (debian 10). So it is best to replace jessie with stretch in your 
repository/sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list use root or sudo to edit). Then 
eventually you will be running stretch stable, which might be tomorrow or next 
month.

I'm really afraid of testing, the whole reason I like Debian is
for its stability, but using stable would require me to install various
packages from backports maybe?? I did try installing that newer kernel,
that didn't work.

How did you try that? Not all lin4. is compatible with stretch.
The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it. I have run stretch and 
sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a sense that sid is even lighter 
and more stable in hardware resources. With all the fooling around I do I have 
yet to see anything break or freeze or do anything unexpected in sid. Stretch 
is so stable it is boring :) Now Jessie, that is a really unstable system ;b 
 even your graphics don't like it.

thanks a lot,

(AK)

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Brian]

On Mon 22 May 2017 at 09:12:39 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:

> Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines
> and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ??

Correct. You will get any updates to testing for a short while. Then it
becomes stable (but still stretch). After that you get updates to stable.

-- 
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Re: [debian] Indicações de teclados

[Gilberto F da Silva]

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 03:18:10PM -0300, Tobias Sette wrote:
> Menu -> Configurações -> Teclado. Role até o final, clique no mais e
> preencha os campos.

  Depois disso dei uma outra olhada no KDE e encontrei onde configurar
  as teclas.  Isso é útil para teclados que não possuem as teclas de
  multimídia.

  PS:  Esse sistema da lista do debian é horrível.  Eu seleciono para
  responder e a resposta vai somente para o remetente, não para a
  lista.  Usando mutt eu tenho de apertar a letra "g' para responder
  ao invés de "r".  Tenho recurso para responder corretamente mas o
  hábito de apertar a letra "r" para todas outras coisas acaba
  atrapalhando.

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Re: Report bug.

[Dejan Jocic]

On 22-05-17, G wrote:
> well my touchpad works when i start my laptop. Sometimes after a while
> it stop working. Touchpad works again after i reboot my laptop. I dont
> see how that is a hardware problem.
> I got more than two packages that match with the installed
> xserver-xorg-input-libinput - X.Org X server -- libinput input driver
> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
> 
> 
> On 05/22/2017 04:44 PM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > On 22-05-17, G wrote:
> >> Hello.
> >> After a while touchpad stop working. Im trying to report that bug but i
> >> dont know which package to report.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 1. For start, are you sure that it is system fault, not hardware fault?
> > If you have another system installed in dual boot, or live dvd/cd/usb,
> > did you check with it if touchpad works?
> > 
> > 2. Are you sure that you did not turn off touchpad? 
> > 
> > 3. If you are sure that it is system fault, do apt-cache search
> > touchpad. After that, compare those packages with packages you have
> > installed. Was there upgrade of some of those packages recently? Did
> > your touchpad stopped working after some of those upgrades?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

In my case, I've had xserver-xorg-input-synaptics removed, because it
was messing something in Gnome, like touchpad settings not showing up in
system settings. While you could/should report bug about some package,
you can also try uninstalling it too, perhaps it will solve your
problem. If not, you can reinstall it. As for questions 1 and 2, it is
logical course of actions and you did not provide much things to start
with, but I do apologise if it sounded condescending to you, or
something like that.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines
and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ??


On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:05 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 22 May 2017 at 08:54:59 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> 
> > Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal.
> > I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian
> > Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install
> > that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable release
> 
> You already have Stretch installed. Ok, it is not yet released as stable
> but it is nearly there. Make sure your sources.list has stretch and not
> testing for the deb lines to keep the machine on stable.
> 
> > right? I'm really afraid of testing, the whole reason I like Debian is
> > for its stability, but using stable would require me to install various
> > packages from backports maybe?? I did try installing that newer kernel,
> > that didn't work.
> 
> At this stage of the freeze you are not risking much in terms of
> stability. No need to be afraid.
> 
> -- 
> Brian.
> 

where to report a bug for touchpad issues (was Re: Report bug.)

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 05:09:40PM +0300, G wrote:
> well my touchpad works when i start my laptop. Sometimes after a while
> it stop working. Touchpad works again after i reboot my laptop. I dont
> see how that is a hardware problem.
> I got more than two packages that match with the installed
> xserver-xorg-input-libinput - X.Org X server -- libinput input driver
> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server

Are you using X? (If you are using a graphical environment, the answer is
almost certainly yes)

You will be using just one of those two drivers I think. You can determine
which by reading /var/log/Xorg.0.log. That should indicate which of the two
packages to report a bug against. (But first please check the existing bug
reports to make sure it is not already reported)

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Re: Report bug.

[G]

well my touchpad works when i start my laptop. Sometimes after a while
it stop working. Touchpad works again after i reboot my laptop. I dont
see how that is a hardware problem.
I got more than two packages that match with the installed
xserver-xorg-input-libinput - X.Org X server -- libinput input driver
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server


On 05/22/2017 04:44 PM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 22-05-17, G wrote:
>> Hello.
>> After a while touchpad stop working. Im trying to report that bug but i
>> dont know which package to report.
>> Thanks
>>
> 
> 
> 1. For start, are you sure that it is system fault, not hardware fault?
> If you have another system installed in dual boot, or live dvd/cd/usb,
> did you check with it if touchpad works?
> 
> 2. Are you sure that you did not turn off touchpad? 
> 
> 3. If you are sure that it is system fault, do apt-cache search
> touchpad. After that, compare those packages with packages you have
> installed. Was there upgrade of some of those packages recently? Did
> your touchpad stopped working after some of those upgrades?
> 
> 
> 

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Brian]

On Mon 22 May 2017 at 08:54:59 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:

> Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal.
> I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian
> Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install
> that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable release

You already have Stretch installed. Ok, it is not yet released as stable
but it is nearly there. Make sure your sources.list has stretch and not
testing for the deb lines to keep the machine on stable.

> right? I'm really afraid of testing, the whole reason I like Debian is
> for its stability, but using stable would require me to install various
> packages from backports maybe?? I did try installing that newer kernel,
> that didn't work.

At this stage of the freeze you are not risking much in terms of
stability. No need to be afraid.

-- 
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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal.
I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian
Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install
that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable release
right? I'm really afraid of testing, the whole reason I like Debian is
for its stability, but using stable would require me to install various
packages from backports maybe?? I did try installing that newer kernel,
that didn't work.
thanks a lot,

On Sun, May 21, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/21/2017 07:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and full
> > response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
> > partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
> > corresponding partitions with guided partitioning). 
> > More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible graphics
> > and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from backports (4.9),
> > these problems were resolved. I have tried installing Linux-image 4.9
> > from backports (using the command line) now again, the problem persists.
> > However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who said he has the
> > exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running Gnome-Classic
> > (Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem but have
> > received no response from him.
> > All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
> > times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
> > Outputs:
> > inxi commands say 'command not found'
> > lspci  :
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > 00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device 
> > [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > 00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
> > (rev 35)
> > 
> > I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539
> > 
> > Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?
> > 
> > thanks a lot,
> > 
> Sorry about the side conversation on partitioning.  Clearly your problem
> is not the partitioning scheme.  As Felix found, the key information in
> lspci output is the device id (8086:22b1) for your graphics controller
> is not supported in the stable distribution of Debian.  It is, however,
> supported in the Stretch distribution.  I am running Stretch currently,
> and it is a good working distribution, with the vast majority of major
> bugs already worked out of it.  You should be able to run Stretch
> without problems.  I concur with Felix, install Stretch and enjoy :)
> > 
> > On Sun, May 21, 2017, at 03:57 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >> On 05/21/2017 12:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 05/21/2017 12:23 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >>
> > However, the OP's post does not mention anything of this nature.  The OP
> > deleted the existing Debian partition(s) leaving the existing Windows
> > partition(s) alone.  No mention was made of the ordering of the
> > partitions on the drive.  The OP then re-installed Debian with the
> > Debian installer, effectively starting from scratch with Debian.
> > Everything seems to work, except GNOME is crashing on boot.  There are
> > several things that can cause this, and I have caused some of them on my
> > system before, however the fact that this is a fresh install limits the
> > possible causes, the most likely of them being a missing (non-free?)
> > video driver or some such required by GNOME to run properly.  The way
> > the OP went about scrapping and re-installing the Debian system is valid
> > and should not have caused a problem under normal circumstances.  Hence
> > the suspicion of a missing driver (again probably non-free, and likely
> > Radeon as well...I've had similar issues with my laptop).
> >>
>  I have a Lenovo laptop with the problem you describe and it's a
>  kernel/video/plasma problem, works fine with the old Sid 4.7 kernel but
>  not with the 4.9, first boot is ok, on restart you will not get the DM
>  or x and may freeze up.  Sometimes switching back and forth on the
>  consoles will get you x, alt+ctrl+F2-F1-F3-F7. Jessie back-ports are
>  also 4.9 and don't work right too. The problem here is an
>  Intel-965-mobile, I'm going to install the Jessie kernel and see if that
>  works or maybe a Ubuntu kernel, I think they are 4.4 and 4.8, I know the
>  4.4 will work, for me anyways, but I have to do something cause the 4.7
>  kernel is old now and not getting security updates.
> >>> Hey, its better than the 3.16 kernel I was stuck with for a long time up
> >>> until just a couple of months. :)  In my case, laptop would boot, but
> >>> the screen would be completely blanked out.  If I caught the boot
> >>> 

Re: Report bug.

[Dejan Jocic]

On 22-05-17, G wrote:
> Hello.
> After a while touchpad stop working. Im trying to report that bug but i
> dont know which package to report.
> Thanks
> 


1. For start, are you sure that it is system fault, not hardware fault?
If you have another system installed in dual boot, or live dvd/cd/usb,
did you check with it if touchpad works?

2. Are you sure that you did not turn off touchpad? 

3. If you are sure that it is system fault, do apt-cache search
touchpad. After that, compare those packages with packages you have
installed. Was there upgrade of some of those packages recently? Did
your touchpad stopped working after some of those upgrades?

Re: Unison entre deux machines Jessie et Stretch

[Olivier]

Bonjour,

Il semble qu'une incompatibilité (voir [1]) frappant la version 2.48
empêche à la fois, la mise en place d'une version 2.40 sur Stretch ou 2.48
sur Jessie !
En d'autres termes, il me faut donc trouver une alternative à Unison (un
nouveau fil de discussion ?)

Merci à tous pour vos suggestions.


[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=807019

Le 18 mai 2017 à 14:06, Eric Degenetais  a écrit :

> Effectivement s'il existe une option de compatibilité entre versions
> différentes, c'est de loin la meilleure solution, car elle permet de
> respecter les versions packagées dans chaque OS.
>
> Cordialement
> __
> Éric Dégenètais
> Henix
>
> http://www.henix.com
> http://www.squashtest.org
>
>
>
> Le 18 mai 2017 à 10:33, Thierry Despeyroux
>  a écrit :
> > Ne faudrait-il pas ajouter l'option
> > addversionno = true
> > dans les profils ?
> >
> > Thierry Despeyroux
> >
> > Le Thu, 18 May 2017 10:28:30 +,
> > Eric Degenetais  a écrit :
> >
> >> Il doit être possible d'ajouter momentanément le dépôt stretch sur
> >> jessie le temps d'installer unison-2.48 (en vérifiant tout de même la
> >> liste des paquets installée), puis retirer ce dépôt.
> >> __
> >> Éric Dégenètais
> >> Henix
> >>
> >> http://www.henix.com
> >> http://www.squashtest.org
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 18 mai 2017 à 09:47, Olivier  a écrit :
> >> >
> >> > Bonjour,
> >> >
> >> > Je viens d'installer le paquet unison-all-gtk sur une machine
> >> > Stretch dont je souhaite synchroniser un répertoire avec une
> >> > machine sous Jessie.
> >> >
> >> > J'imaginais trouver sur machine sous Stretch après l'installation
> >> > de ce paquet, un binaire unison-2.40, en plus du binaire
> >> > unison-2.48 mais il n'en est rien
> >> >
> >> > Je n'ai pas trouvé de paquet unison-2.48 pour Jessie.
> >> >
> >> > Comment faire pour utiliser Unison entre ces 2 machines ?
> >> >
> >> > Slts
> >>
> >
>
>

Report bug.

[G]

Hello.
After a while touchpad stop working. Im trying to report that bug but i
dont know which package to report.
Thanks

Re: Wheezy - upgrade Mysql 5.5.55 vers 5.6.35 avec dotdeb

[Hugues MORIN]

Bonjour


Merci Francois :D

Si j'ai bien compris, il s'agit de creer une image dans un chroot de la
racine du systeme ( donc / ) dans une partition ne faisant pas partie de
celle-ci ou en memoire (ramfs)

Cette solution a l'air bien mais j'ai du mal a comprendre comment la mettre
en oeuvre et l'utiliser dans mon cas.
Je ne suis pas expert et c'est quelque chose de nouveau pour moi.

Mon serveur est equipe de 2 HD en raid 1
Le partitionement est le suivant:
df -h
Sys. fich. Taille Util. Dispo Uti% Monté sur
rootfs20G  648M   18G   4% /
/dev/root 20G  648M   18G   4% /
devtmpfs  32G 0   32G   0% /dev
tmpfs6,3G  356K  6,3G   1% /run
tmpfs5,0M 0  5,0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs 13G 0   13G   0% /dev/shm
/dev/md2 476M   18M  429M   4% /boot
/dev/md3  96G   52G   40G  57% /var
/dev/md4 1,6T  155G  1,4T  11% /var/www
/dev/md5  20G  1,6G   17G   9% /var/log
/dev/md6  96G   15G   77G  16% /home
/dev/md8 967M  2,9M  898M   1% /tmp


Si j'ai bien suivi dans mon cas,
temporoot m /home/temporaire => creera l'image de /
chroot /home/temporaire/mnt/ => me permet d'acceder a cette image
temporoot u => permet de demonter cette image ... et de la supprimer ?

Si jusque la c'est bon, c'est que j'ai a peu pres compris comment le mettre
en place.
Il me reste le probleme de l'utilisation
Originellement, mon but est de tester une mise a jour vers MySQL 5.6.

Donc dans mon cas, je cree le chroot, je m'y rends et j'utilise aptitude
pour la mise a jour:
root@hugues:/# temporoot m /home/temporaire
root@hugues:/# chroot /home/temporaire/mnt/
root@TEMPORAIRE:/# aptitude

Toujours bon?

A partir de la je bloque, je ne vois pas comment utiliser ce chroot.

Mon serveur heberge des sites, j'ai besoin de tester leur fonctionnement
avec cette nouvelle version de mysql.


Cordialement
Hugues



Le 20 mai 2017 à 07:56, François Boisson <
user.anti-s...@maison.homelinux.net> a écrit :

>
> > Mon hebergeur est OVH, donc oui il doit proposer des trucs mais comme je
> ne
> > sais pas vraiment ce que je dois chercher je n avais pas vraiment
> pense
> > a regarder de ce cote la.
> >
> > En fait je ne connais pas le nom de cette technique ou meme celui des
> > outils a utilser pour mettre en oeuvre cette solution ou l on cree un
> clone
> > pour tester quelquechose dessus.
> >
>
> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai fait un pauet aufsroot qui est très pratique et qui permet de tester
> sur
> la machine même. Je teste tout le temps les mis à jours avec ça.
>
> François Boisson
> paquet aufsroot (c'est un script bash)
> http://boisson.homeip.net/depot/pool/jessie/i386/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb
> ou
> deb http://boisson.homeip.net/depot jessie divers
> Rq (j'ai mis jessie mais c'est variable):
> $ ls */*/aufsroot*
> jessie/amd64/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb  vivid/amd64/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb
> wheezy/amd64/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb  wheezy/i386/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb
> wily/amd64/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb
> jessie/i386/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb   vivid/i386/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb
>  wheezy/amd64/aufsroot_0.4_all.debwheezy/i386/aufsroot_0.4_all.deb
> wily/i386/aufsroot_0.4-1_all.deb
>
> François Boisson
>
> Le README:
> Il y a deux choses dans ce paquet,
>
> 1) Un programme temporoot permettant de créer un chroot consistant en la
> racine
> du système montée en lecture seule avec par dessus un système de fichiers
> en
> aufs. Concrètement voilà ce que cela donne:
>
>
> * Repérez une partition non utilisé par la racine, mettons /home et
> trouver un
> nom de répertoire, mettons /home/temporaire.
>
> * Tapez sous root
> Code:
> temporoot m /home/temporaire
>
> Le programme renverra tapez chroot /home/temporaire/mnt
>
> * Faites un chroot sur /home/temporaire/mnt
> Cela se voit avec un prompt différent:
> Code:
> root@portos:/home/francois# chroot /home/temporaire/mnt/
> root@TEMPORAIRE:/ #exit
> root@portos:/home/francois#
>
> * Quand vous avez fini faites
> temporoot u
>
> Cas d'erreurs: Si vous avez le message
> Code:
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on aufs,
>missing codepage or helper program, or other error
>(for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might
>need a /sbin/mount. helper program)
>In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>dmesg | tail  or so
> C'est que vous utilisez une partition que vous montez sur elle même. Dans
> ce
> cas, il faut soit trouver un autre point d'attache (une clef USB avec un
> ext3,
> un système ramfs fait par
>
> Code:
> mount -t tmpfs none /home/temporaire
>
> Dans ce deuxième cas, vous perdez les modifications à l'extinction de la
> machine, etc.)
>
>
> Exemple:
> Code:
> root@portos:/home/francois# mount -t tmpfs none /home/temporaire
>
> Cela afin d'avoir un système de fichier indépendant de /home. Sinon il faut
> trouver un système de fichiers ne figurant pas dans /etc/fstab
>
> root@portos:/home/francois# temporoot m /home/temporaire
> 

Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch

[Larry Dighera]

On Sun, 21 May 2017 09:35:55 -0500, you wrote:

>> Check with blkid that sda5 has this UUID.
>
>Gparted reports that UUID for /dev/sda5

'lsblk --fs' provides a human-friendly "graphical" tree view that
includes UUID and LABEL of each partition on each disk.

Re: [A bit OT] Diagnosing home network

[Dan Purgert]

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, May 20, 2017 09:38:21 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
>> You'll note no mention of wifi here as its turned off unless I have
>> children visiting with their smart phones.  wifi is slower, and subject
>> to being used by the neighbors as I found my net usage after the kids
>> had been in was up about 80 Gb a month later. 
>
> You know there are security measures available for WiFi, right?  I do two 
> things, I use one of the more advanced encryption protocols (something
> like WPA-2 (and maybe some more initials at the end??), and, I have it
> setup so that it doesn't announce its presence--only if someone knows
> the name can they try to enter a password and login.

Probably WPA2-PSK ("Pre Shared Key") -- just means "password auth".
TBH, not having the SSID transmitted is actually LESS secure (overall)
than just having it transmit, due to the fact that your client devices
(phone, laptop, etc) have to broadcast "hey, I'm looking for SSID,
any APs in range have that one?"

If the devices aren't leaving your house (e.g. your Nest thermostat, or
similar) it's a bit of "6 one way / half dozen the other", and won't
really matter.

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Re: Is this sources.list correct?

[Dejan Jocic]

On 22-05-17, Fungi4All wrote:
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Is this sources.list correct?
> UTC Time: May 22, 2017 6:09 AM
> From: compro...@list.comprofix.com
> fjfj...@protonmail.com
> 
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:45:05AM -0400, Fjfj109 wrote:
> > On Stretch, upgraded from Jessie. https://paste.debian.net/933553/
> 
> When updating from Jessie to Stretch. Just replace all the 'Jessie' 
> references in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to 'Stretch'
> 
> You can do this with a quick sed (backup your sources.list first):
> 
> sed -i 's|jessie|stretch|g' /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> Your sources look OK. I compared them to a Jessie one that I have and other 
> than the repo you are referencing looks good.
> 
> This is an optional addition to consider:
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch-backports/
> 
> https://backports.debian.org/ read some before you decide
> 
> Thanks
> Matt
> 
> AK

Or, even better, you can use slight change in that sed command to get
both changed sources.list and backup:

#sed -i.bak 's/jessie/stretch/g' /etc/apt/sources.list

will get you changed sources.list and old sources.list.bak file. Of
course, you can change that .bak with your preferred suffix for back up
files.

Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch

[Brian]

On Mon 22 May 2017 at 05:31:26 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 05/21/2017 09:31 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> >>
> >As for number 1 can't say much about it, I do not get it either. But 2
> >happens because you've used apt-get upgrade instead of apt-get
> >dist-upgrade. Packages that will uninstall some packages already
> >installed on your system and that will change some dependencies
> >require dist-upgrade. It happens always in case of linux-image packages.
> >It will leave your previous working linux-image on though, but will
> >uninstall one older than that, so you will always end up with chance
> >to  boot in working kernel, if new one messes up some things.
> >
> 
> If I had problems after doing apt-get dist-upgrade,
>   1. how would I distinguish a kernel problem from other problems?

Far too general a question. Better would be a description of the actual
problem.

>   2. how would I boot with the previous kernel?

Replace the kernel version in the linux and initrd lines within the GRUB
menu. For permanency, use /etc/grub.d/40_custom.

>   3. is there some specific documentation I should be reading?

On what? In general, at this stage of the freeze, dist-upgrade shouldn't
give any problem.

-- 
Brian

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[Pierre L.]

J'imagine qu'au pire, il est tout à fait possible d'avoir plusieurs
machines hébergeant zoneminder... si 1 seule ne suffit pas ;)
par exemple:

- 1 serveur pour les 20 cams extérieures,
- 1 autre serveur pour les 20 cams intérieures...
Chacun d'eux avec une IP différentes, chacun son grand écran avec les
cams qui switchent à l'écran...



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Re: Is this sources.list correct?

[Fungi4All]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Is this sources.list correct?
UTC Time: May 22, 2017 6:09 AM
From: compro...@list.comprofix.com
fjfj...@protonmail.com

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:45:05AM -0400, Fjfj109 wrote:
> On Stretch, upgraded from Jessie. https://paste.debian.net/933553/

When updating from Jessie to Stretch. Just replace all the 'Jessie' references 
in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to 'Stretch'

You can do this with a quick sed (backup your sources.list first):

sed -i 's|jessie|stretch|g' /etc/apt/sources.list

Your sources look OK. I compared them to a Jessie one that I have and other 
than the repo you are referencing looks good.

This is an optional addition to consider:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch-backports/

https://backports.debian.org/ read some before you decide

Thanks
Matt

AK

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[Stéphane Rivière]

> Cela aurait changé, supporte t'il à présent 20 et + caméras sans soucis ?

1) Faut juste mettre le matos en face... 20 cams, c'est énorme, donc si
c'est en 25ips et HD... Perso je tourne à 3/5 ips avec des résolutions
au plus juste... Histoire aussi de ne pas consommer les ressources sans
raison (et peut-être aussi pour avoir une cam en 4K si nécessaire).

2) On peut déporter (par scripts) la détection de mouvement en
récupérant les infos de détection de mouvement directement dans les
caméras (via leurs API)

Quand à la soluce qui a l'air très complète, Zoneminder peut la gérer,
faut juste retrousser ses manches et apprendre... Ce bestiau est
complètement scriptable, donc on fait le café, mais y'a un effort à
fournir initialement.

Si une seule install de ce type avec rien derrière, acheter du tout
fait... Si installs récurrentes, intéressant de s'investir.

Effectivement, un réseau IP dédié est aussi bien. Et attention, la video
ça bouffe, faut tout bien gérer, 'calculer' ses caméras (prendre les
bonnes, sic...) Sans compter que si l'on veux une "vision humaine de
loin", c'est du 4K impératif... Mais si c'est pour un gros plan de
comptoir, du 720 suffit... La videosurveillance, limite, c'est un art.

-- 
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Ile d'Oléron - France


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Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch

[Dejan Jocic]

On 22-05-17, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 05/21/2017 09:31 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > On 21-05-17, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > My questions:
> > > 
> > > 1. In the first run, I don't understand:
> > >  Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.130) ...
> > >  update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-2-686-pae
> > >  I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda5
> > >  I: (UUID=5d0c821b-26b2-4d38-b7fe-dc7db1b72576)
> > >  I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
> > >  As /dev/sda5 is my SWAP.
> > > 
> > > 2. I don't understand any implications of:
> > >  The following packages have been kept back:
> > >linux-image-686-pae xorg xserver-xorg
> > > 
> > > TIA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > As for number 1 can't say much about it, I do not get it either. But 2
> > happens because you've used apt-get upgrade instead of apt-get
> > dist-upgrade. Packages that will uninstall some packages already
> > installed on your system and that will change some dependencies
> > require dist-upgrade. It happens always in case of linux-image packages.
> > It will leave your previous working linux-image on though, but will
> > uninstall one older than that, so you will always end up with chance
> > to  boot in working kernel, if new one messes up some things.
> > 
> 
> If I had problems after doing apt-get dist-upgrade,
>   1. how would I distinguish a kernel problem from other problems?
>   2. how would I boot with the previous kernel?
>   3. is there some specific documentation I should be reading?
> 
> I've done online upgrades before having relied on purchased DVD sets of
> point releases due to bandwidth constraints.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 

1. That would depend on problem itself, right? As for kernel problems, I
was unusually lucky with them for years and have yet to run on problem
with upgraded kernel. Must be that new kernels really loved my hardware.

2. It is easy task, as long as there is previous kernel present in your
/boot. If everything works as expected you should have it. From debian
administrator handbook:

8.11.1. Features of a Debian Kernel Package

A Debian kernel package installs the kernel image (vmlinuz-version), its
configuration (config-version) and its symbols table
(System.map-version) in /boot/. The symbols table helps developers
understand the meaning of a kernel error message; without it, kernel
“oopses” (an “oops” is the kernel equivalent of a segmentation fault for
user-space programs, in other words messages generated following an
invalid pointer dereference) only contain numeric memory addresses,
which is useless information without the table mapping these addresses
to symbols and function names. The modules are installed in the
/lib/modules/version/ directory.

The package's configuration scripts automatically generate an initrd
image, which is a mini-system designed to be loaded in memory (hence the
name, which stands for “init ramdisk”) by the bootloader, and used by
the Linux kernel solely for loading the modules needed to access the
devices containing the complete Debian system (for example, the driver
for SATA disks). Finally, the post-installation scripts update the
symbolic links /vmlinuz, /vmlinuz.old, /initrd.img and /initrd.img.old
so that they point to the latest two kernels installed, respectively, as
well as the corresponding initrd images.

Most of those tasks are offloaded to hook scripts in the
/etc/kernel/*.d/ directories. For instance, the integration with grub
relies on /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub and
/etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub to call update-grub when kernels are
installed or removed. 

As you can see there, if everything works as intended, you will still
have your old kernel installed, which you can choose from grub menu.
Think that it is under advanced options, but did not use it recently and
am not in mood to reboot now to check. Anyway, as long as you do not use
apt-get autoremove, even your older than previous kernel packages should
be around, though I did not have need for that.

3. https://debian-handbook.info/ and usual man pages for grub, kernel,
apt-get and friends, I guess.

Pleasure :)

Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch

[Richard Owlett]

On 05/21/2017 09:31 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:

On 21-05-17, Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]

My questions:

1. In the first run, I don't understand:
 Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.130) ...
 update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-2-686-pae
 I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda5
 I: (UUID=5d0c821b-26b2-4d38-b7fe-dc7db1b72576)
 I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
 As /dev/sda5 is my SWAP.

2. I don't understand any implications of:
 The following packages have been kept back:
   linux-image-686-pae xorg xserver-xorg

TIA





As for number 1 can't say much about it, I do not get it either. But 2
happens because you've used apt-get upgrade instead of apt-get
dist-upgrade. Packages that will uninstall some packages already
installed on your system and that will change some dependencies
require dist-upgrade. It happens always in case of linux-image packages.
It will leave your previous working linux-image on though, but will
uninstall one older than that, so you will always end up with chance
to  boot in working kernel, if new one messes up some things.



If I had problems after doing apt-get dist-upgrade,
  1. how would I distinguish a kernel problem from other problems?
  2. how would I boot with the previous kernel?
  3. is there some specific documentation I should be reading?

I've done online upgrades before having relied on purchased DVD sets of 
point releases due to bandwidth constraints.


Thank you.

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[BERTRAND Joël]

daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Le 22/05/2017 à 09:41, Stéphane Rivière a écrit :

[...]

Si vous avez quelques références "professionnelles" j'apprécierai...

Zoneminder ! Libre... détection de mouvement intégrée pas mal du tout...
Plein de possibilités de hacks... App pour smartphone...

Vraiment bien :)

Je l'utilise même en recyclant des vieux PC pas pêchus (trucs en IDE,
avec des disques deux disques de 500Go en raid 1 et 1,5 Go de ram), dans
une config encore plus légère qu'XFCE (le très beau Windowmaker)...
[...]


Professionnel ? Je l'avais testé il y a quelques années, à partir de 3~4
caméras il ne suivait plus ! :(

Cela aurait changé, supporte t'il à présent 20 et + caméras sans soucis ?



Ça dépend essentiellement des types de détection, du nombre d'images par 
seconde et des traitements à effectuer.


De ce que je vois, zoneminder consomme chez moi 7% d'un coeur de i5 (2,9 
GHz) par camera (résolution 24 bits 1280x960 à 15 images par secondes, 
quatre zones à détecter en best machin chose). Je peux monter à 14 
caméras identiques avant de saturer un coeur. Naturellement, il faut que 
la mémoire suive.


Bien cordialement,

JKB

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

[Brian]

On Mon 22 May 2017 at 13:46:36 +1000, Matthew McKinnon wrote:

> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 01:11:43AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > I think it should be changed when Stretch becomes stable? Just a thought.
> > 
> > It could be done now. Hint, hint. :)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Brian.
> > 
> 
> Well I made my first contribution to the Debian Community. Made myself
> an account on the Wiki. It has now been updated with the new link -
> http://deb.debian.org

Your second. You have contributed to this list.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch

[Brian]

On Mon 22 May 2017 at 11:12:02 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:

> On 21-05-17, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 21 May 2017 at 22:18:11 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > 
> > > Sorry, but you are doing it wrong way. Grub 2 should not be customized
> > > by editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg , but by editing /etc/default/grub and
> > > files in /etc/grub.d/. Reason is obvious, your customization is lost
> > > whenever something related to linux-image is upgraded. Just saying :)
> > 
> > "Wrong" isn't quite the right way to put. For most people in most
> > circumstances editing grub.cfg and using update-grub is a wise procedure
> > and to be advocated. But a hand-crafted grub.cfg can be very useful.
> > update-grub can be prevented from getting its hands on it with
> > dpkg-divert,
> > 
> > -- 
> > Brian.
> > 
> 
> Well, I was always under assumption that in case of grub2 you can change
> anything in grub.cfg by editing /etc/default/grub and files in
> /etc/grub.d/. Perhaps I was wrong about it, in which case I do
> apologise.

No need to apologise. Your assumption is correct and your advice sound;
100% of Debian users should thank you for it. The 0.1% who wander from
the straight and narrow presumably know what they are doing.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Samsung ML-1915 printer

[Brian]

On Sat 20 May 2017 at 08:27:25 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > Any serious problem with this command would mean there had been an utter
> > and complete breakdown in the CUPS printing system. Nobody would have
> > a hope of printing.
> >
> > Now do 'lpinfo -v' with the printer plugged into the USB port. Look for
> > "direct usb://" and alter the command in 7 to
> >
> >  lpadmin -p ML191x -v usb:// -E -m 
> > lsb/usr/custom/Samsung_ML-191x_Series.ppd
> >
> > ML191x should now be shown in the printing dialogs of applications. Can
> > you print from an application or with
> >
> >  lp -d ML191x /etc/nsswitch ?
> 
> I did everything you said, but no print!  I don't know what to do...  ML191x 
> is
> shown in the printing dialog of application, but it won't print...  neither
> using lp...  I'm desperate...  What can the problem be...?  What should I do
> now?

>From a previous mail (with typo corrected):

 > Now (as root again)
 > 8. cupsfilter -p /etc/cups/ppd/ML191x.ppd -e -m printer/foo message.txt > 
 > out.prn 2>log.

Replace message.txt with /etc/nsswitch and obtain out.prn and log.
Compress out.prn and log with gzip and send the files to the list
attached to your next mail. Compare your files with the ones I sent
and comment on any differences (apart from size).

-- 
Brian.

Re: WannaCry "ransomware" cyber attack :

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 22 mai 2017 11:05 +0200, MAS Jean-Louis  :

>> (Ce qui n'empêche pas
>> de retrouver des sites sous Linux, Apache et Wordpress, qui
>> ne sont pas à jour, et qui servent de boutiques de
>> pharmarcie parallèle, comme quoi...).
>
> Parfois c'est la distribution qui est directement responsable de cet
> état de fait :
>
> Un exemple chez la distrib d'à coté
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/wordpress
> wordpress (4.4.2+dfsg-1ubuntu1)
> La dernière version officielle de wordpress est la 4.7.5
>
> Et il n'y a pas de rétroportage des correctifs de sécurité contrairement
> à Debian.

Ubuntu n'a pas de support de sécurité pour universe. Il peut y avoir des
rétroportages comme il peut ne pas y en avoir du tout. C'est un des plus
beaux coups marketing d'Ubuntu à ses débuts : beaucoup ont switché vers
Ubuntu qui assurait des mises à jour pendant 3/5 ans sans se rendre
compte que cela ne concernait que main. Et au début, il n'y avait pas
grand chose dans main (pas de nginx par exemple).
-- 
What no spouse of a writer can ever understand is that a writer is working
when he's staring out the window.


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Re: WannaCry "ransomware" cyber attack :

[MAS Jean-Louis]

Le 17/05/2017 à 09:59, Yves Rutschle a écrit :

> (Ce qui n'empêche pas
> de retrouver des sites sous Linux, Apache et Wordpress, qui
> ne sont pas à jour, et qui servent de boutiques de
> pharmarcie parallèle, comme quoi...).

Parfois c'est la distribution qui est directement responsable de cet
état de fait :

Un exemple chez la distrib d'à coté
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/wordpress
wordpress (4.4.2+dfsg-1ubuntu1)
La dernière version officielle de wordpress est la 4.7.5

Et il n'y a pas de rétroportage des correctifs de sécurité contrairement
à Debian.

Donc bon la sécurité sous Linux, quand on regarde d'un peu près, c'est
très très hétérogène.

Le bug heartbleed [http://heartbleed.com/] a mis en lumière que l'idée
des sources ouvertes relues par des milliers de codeurs, n'était qu'un
mythe. Le nombre de relecteurs d'openSSL était en réalité très faible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbleed#Root_causes.2C_possible_lessons.2C_and_reactions

> Bon après, nos applications ont l'avantage d'avoir des mises
> à jour synchronisées à peu près automatiques, ce qui n'est
> pas forcément le cas d'un Acrobat Reader sur un Windows.

Ce n'est pas l'idée du store sous windows 10, dans lequel on trouve
adobe reader touch ?
J'avoue ne pas avoir testé cette possibilité

> Pour Android, je pense qu'il a un modèle de sécurité plus
> strict que le Linux de base (je ne suis pas sûr) et que
> Google se débrouille pas mal sur le contrôle de ce qui est
> installé.

Je crois par défaut qu'il sandboxe toutes ses applications, mais ça
n’empêche pas le store de proposer des applications tierces très limite
en terme de sécurité ou de vie privée.

Cordialement

-- 
Jean Louis Mas

Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch

[Dejan Jocic]

On 21-05-17, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 21 May 2017 at 22:18:11 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> 
> > On 21-05-17, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Sun 21 May 2017 at 16:31:55 (+0200), Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > As for number 1 can't say much about it, I do not get it either. But 2
> > > > happens because you've used apt-get upgrade instead of apt-get
> > > > dist-upgrade. Packages that will uninstall some packages already
> > > > installed on your system and that will change some dependencies 
> > > > require dist-upgrade.
> > > 
> > > Agreed.
> > > 
> > > > It happens always in case of linux-image packages. 
> > > 
> > > Is this¹ new with stretch? My linux-images upgrade just like any other
> > > package; here's the penultimate occasion for jessie:
> > > 
> > > Start-Date: 2017-03-08  19:20:34
> > > Commandline: apt-get upgrade
> > > Upgrade: linux-source-3.16:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), 
> > > linux-headers-3.16.0-4-586:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), 
> > > linux-image-3.16.0-4-586:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), 
> > > linux-libc-dev:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), 
> > > linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), 
> > > linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2)
> > > End-Date: 2017-03-08  19:22:50
> > > 
> > > (The last one's log was rather larger.)
> > 
> > Ehh, sorry not sure if it is new with Stretch, can't remember for
> > Jessie. I'm certain that it was like that on Stretch and on Ubuntu
> > 16.04.
> 
> Rather than just a contrast, I was rather hoping to hear how David
> Wright's observations (which I agree with)fit in with yours.
> 
Sorry, not sure what I can add to it. 

> > > > It will leave your previous working linux-image on though, but will 
> > > > uninstall one older than that, so you will always end up with chance to 
> > > > boot in working kernel, if new one messes up some things.
> > > 
> > > Same question. My wheezy system has had at least 28 linux-image
> > > upgrades (3.2.57-3+deb7u2→3.2.60-1+deb7u1 to 3.2.86-1→3.2.88-1)
> > > but there's still only one kernel image on the system:
> > > 
> > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  134839 Apr 27 16:52 config-3.2.0-4-686-pae
> > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   12288 Apr 28 07:44 grub
> > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2672854 Apr 28 07:44 initrd.img-3.2.0-4-686-pae
> > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1674268 Apr 27 16:52 System.map-3.2.0-4-686-pae
> > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2709184 Apr 27 16:51 vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae
> > > 
> > > (I have to notice these upgrades myself because they overwrite
> > > my edited version of /boot/grub/grub.cfg which I then replace.)
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > David.
> > > 
> > > ¹ I'm not disagreeing that something is holding back the upgrade
> > > on this specific occasion, but this is unusual.


This is what I have in /boot and, as stated above, usual outcome of
upgrades, both in Stretch and in Ubuntu 16.04:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   186695 Mar 30 03:16 config-4.9.0-2-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   186380 May  2 17:21 config-4.9.0-3-amd64
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 May 19 08:55 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19660713 May 17 16:43 initrd.img-4.9.0-2-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19534447 May 18 08:40 initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3169870 Mar 30 03:16 System.map-4.9.0-2-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3176652 May  2 17:21 System.map-4.9.0-3-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4193832 Mar 30 18:43 vmlinuz-4.9.0-2-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4204320 May  2 17:21 vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64

As you can see, 2 kernels. All i do is my morning routine which consists
of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, followed by apt-get dist-upgrade
in case of need(as stated before, usually case of need is kernel
upgrade). Of course, it is followed by apt-get autoremove too.I do not
have anything unusual on this system.  It was fairly recent install of
jessie(few months ago), followed by upgrade to stretch right after
install. Was installed from unofficial net-install cd with firmware on
it. Also, nothing was changed in apt preferences and stuff like that.

> > 
> > Sorry, but you are doing it wrong way. Grub 2 should not be customized
> > by editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg , but by editing /etc/default/grub and
> > files in /etc/grub.d/. Reason is obvious, your customization is lost
> > whenever something related to linux-image is upgraded. Just saying :)
> 
> "Wrong" isn't quite the right way to put. For most people in most
> circumstances editing grub.cfg and using update-grub is a wise procedure
> and to be advocated. But a hand-crafted grub.cfg can be very useful.
> update-grub can be prevented from getting its hands on it with
> dpkg-divert,
> 
> -- 
> Brian.
> 

Well, I was always under assumption that in case of grub2 you can change
anything in grub.cfg by editing /etc/default/grub and files in
/etc/grub.d/. Perhaps I was wrong about it, in which case I do
apologise.

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[BERTRAND Joël]

daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Le 22/05/2017 à 00:51, kaliderus a écrit :

Le bonjour,

Connaissez-vous des solutions de vidéosurveillance qui tournent avec
notre Debian préférée ?
Si vous avez quelques références "professionnelles" j'apprécierai...


J'ai longtemps cherché et n'ai trouvé aucune solution libre sous Linux.
NUUO a des recorders qui tournent avec leur logiciel propriétaire sous
Linux. Solution 100% libre: iSpy sous Windows. Pour ces 2 solutions on
peut utiliser IPCam viewer sous Android et iPhone afin d'avoir accès aux
images à distance. NUUO possède sa propre application si l'on préfère
rester dans leur enviroennement.



Bonjour,

	J'utilise zoneminder. C'est pratique, facile à configurer (enfin 
presque) et efficace. Autant de cameras que l'on veut (et que le CPU est 
capable de traiter). Avec une camera (usb+coriander+patches v4l2+ 
v4l2loopback et zoneminder traitant quatre zones), j'ai une charge 
inférieure à 0.5. Et là-dedans, c'est l'USB qui met tout par terre.


	Il paraît que ça commence à fonctionner sur un raspberry PI, je n'ai 
pas testé. Personnellement, je le fais tourner sur un i5 diskless (avec 
la base de données hébergée sur un serveur distant mais sur le même 
LAN). Ça a le bon goût d'accepter presque n'importe quoi en entrée 
(j'utilise personnellement une camera USB reconnue comme une firewire 
dans coriander rebalançant le flux dans v4l2 pour le faire digérer à 
zoneminder).


	J'ai accès à distance aux images, à la configuration. Bref, ça roule 
sans problème. Zoneminder est aussi capable d'utiliser et de commander 
des caméras PTZ.


Cordialement,

JKB

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 22/05/2017 à 09:41, Stéphane Rivière a écrit :

[...]

Si vous avez quelques références "professionnelles" j'apprécierai...

Zoneminder ! Libre... détection de mouvement intégrée pas mal du tout...
Plein de possibilités de hacks... App pour smartphone...

Vraiment bien :)

Je l'utilise même en recyclant des vieux PC pas pêchus (trucs en IDE,
avec des disques deux disques de 500Go en raid 1 et 1,5 Go de ram), dans
une config encore plus légère qu'XFCE (le très beau Windowmaker)...
[...]


Professionnel ? Je l'avais testé il y a quelques années, à partir de 3~4 
caméras il ne suivait plus ! :(


Cela aurait changé, supporte t'il à présent 20 et + caméras sans soucis ?

--
Daniel

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[kaliderus]

Merci à tous pour vos retours,

Néanmoins, quand je parlais de "solutions", je pensais à un système
complet, dont voici ce que pourrait être le cahier des charges :

Système pour 12 caméras (motorisées et pilotables à distance), sur
réseau filaire exclusif (pas très adepte des solutions sur ip pour
autant de vidéos à faire transiter, mais peut être que c'est possible
?), extensible à 24 caméras.
Carte d'acquisition vidéo ?
Logiciel ou automate pour piloter le tout.
IP 66.
Utilisable la nuit (projecteur infrarouge).
Enregistrement en continu sur 1 semaine.
Possibilité de transférer les vidéos sur le réseau pour sauvegarde.
Redondance électrique.
Système idéalement en 100% Debian.
Possibilité de développer des macros afin d'automatiser les prises de
vue (selon le calendrier par exemple).

J'ai le sentiment d'être un peu optimiste pour le coup :-/

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[Pierre L.]

Ha oui ca a l'air de bien faire son taf ce Zoneminder :)
Genre avec des Raspberry Pi (ou concurrents équivalents) auxquels on va
plugger une cam... Apparemment ca bouffe un peu sur la machine qui réuni
les clients si j'ai bien compris, un bidule avec un genre CPU Atom
pourrait faire l'affaire probablement?


Le 22/05/2017 à 09:41, Stéphane Rivière a écrit :
> Le 22/05/2017 à 00:51, kaliderus a écrit :
>> Le bonjour,
>>
>> Connaissez-vous des solutions de vidéosurveillance qui tournent avec
>> notre Debian préférée ?
> Oui !
>
>> Si vous avez quelques références "professionnelles" j'apprécierai...
> Zoneminder ! Libre... détection de mouvement intégrée pas mal du tout...
> Plein de possibilités de hacks... App pour smartphone...
>
> Vraiment bien :)
>
> Je l'utilise même en recyclant des vieux PC pas pêchus (trucs en IDE,
> avec des disques deux disques de 500Go en raid 1 et 1,5 Go de ram), dans
> une config encore plus légère qu'XFCE (le très beau Windowmaker)...
>
> Un copier/collé (très sale, désolé) de mon wiki, (pour le reste, il est
> facile à configurer via son serveur web) :
>
> --
> Architecture
> 1Introduction
>
> Compte tenu des spécificités de Zoneminder, l'installation de ce dernier
> se fera soit :
> - Via une configuration légère fondée sur WindowMaker ;
> - Via une VM, dans le cadre d'un serveur local.
>
> Ce document décrit l'installation d'un serveur Zoneminder.
> 1.1  Système
> Le système d'exploitation, le « L » de « LAMP » est : GNU/Linux Debian 8
> Jessie.
>
> Debian est le roi des systèmes serveurs sous Linux. Son niveau de
> sécurité et de fiabilité est sans équivalent. Son système de gestion de
> paquets « aptitude » est le meilleur de tous les Linux.
>
> L'installation et la sécurisation de base sont décrits dans : serveur
> INTERNIX (cloud).odt
>
> 1.2  LAMP Stack
> La « LAMP » stack est conservée car Zoneminder est très liée à cette
> dernière.
>
>
> Installation Système
> 1Généralités
>
> Installer le système. Ne choisir aucune installation typique par défaut
> (tout décocher).
>
> En fonction du support (machine physique ou VM) :
> - Prévoir 12 Go sur / et un nombre suffisant de Go sur /srv pour le
> stockage des vidéos et des données SQL ;
> - Moduler les paquets préconisés en fonction du hardware ou du contexte.
> 2Base
>
>
> # Installer boot sur second disque RAID
>
> root@system: grub-install /dev/sdb
>
> root@system: update-grub /dev/sdb
>
> root@system: apt-get install aptitude
> root@system: aptitude keep-all
>
> root@system: aptitude install mc
>
>
> Mettre à jour les dépôts  :
>
> /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
>
> # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib
> non-free
>
> # jessie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports main
> deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports main
>
>
> Mettre à jour le système et installer les paquets :
>
>
> # Mise à jour
>
> root@system: aptitude update
> root@system: aptitude upgrade
>
> # Postfix doit être installé pour supprimer Exim avant l'installation
> des smartmontools
>
> root@system: aptitude install ssh xorg lightdm wmaker postfix
>
> # Pour les cartes graphiques et réseau
>
> root@system: aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-realtek
> 3Finalisations
> 3.1  Smartmontools
>
>
> root@system: aptitude install smartmontools
>
>
>
> <<< CONFIG SMARMONTOOLS >>>
>
> 3.2  LM-Sensors
>
>
> root@system: aptitude install lm-sensors
>
> # Configuration
>
> root@system: sensors-detect
>
> # Contrôle
>
> root@system: sensors
>
> 3.3  Grub
>
> /etc/default/grub
>
> ...
> GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
> GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
> GRUB_BACKGROUND="usr/share/images/desktop_base/lightdm_gris.png"
> ...
>
>
>
> root@system: update-grub
>
> 3.4  LightDM
>
> /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
>
> ...
> background=/usr/share/images/desktop_base/lightdm_gris.png"
> ...
>
> Installation Zoneminder
> 1Base
>
>
> root@system: aptitude install php5 mysql-server php-pear php5-mysql php5-gd
>
> # Noter le mot de passe MySQL
>
>
> Déplacer le chemin des bases MySQL :
>
>
> root@system: systemctl stop mysql
>
> root@system: mv /var/lib/mysql /srv/sql
>
>
> Mettre à jour :
>
> /etc/mysql/my.cnf
>
> ...
> datadir   = /srv/sql
> ...
>
> # set MySQL to use innodb_file_per_table
>
> [mysqld]
> ...
> innodb_file_per_table
> ...
>
> 2Zoneminder
> Installer
>
> root@system: aptitude install zoneminder
>
>
> Paramétrer :
>
>
> 

Re: error en instalacion de mysql en debian 8 jesie

[lizard king]

Yo lo instal? con apt-get install MySQL ( min?sculas) y todo bien

Obtener Outlook para Android


From: Oscar Martinez 
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:52:32 PM
To: Lista Debian
Subject: error en instalacion de mysql en debian 8 jesie

buenas, estoy tratando de instalar mysql-server en debian 8 jesie

me dice que mysql no es un candidato para la instalacion la verdad no conozco 
bien linux estoy aprendiendo he cambiado repositorios
instale

mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide-en.html-chapter.tar

y no he podido pasar de ese punto he observado que cuando hago el

apt-get update y apt-get upgrade me dice fallo en los repo- mysql

quien me puede ayudar o darme una guia para determinar cual es mi error o cual 
es el paso que estoy omiendo gracias

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

[tomas]

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On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:40:47PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:

[...]

> As I understand it:
> 
> *   'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision
> -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or new packages -- e.g.
> icedove 1:45.6.0-1~deb8u1 to thunderbird 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1).
> 
> *   'apt-get dist-upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new major
> revision -- e.g. Debian 7 to Debian 8.

It's not *that* drastic. Rolling forward usually implies doing
something to your sources.list (unless you state there something
like "stable" or "testing", which change their meaning when a
release is made).

As far as I understood it (corrections welcome!):

Upgrade just upgrades packages to newer versions, as far as possible.
It *never* removes packages, even if that means that it can't advance
a package's version to the newest. Dist-upgrade would remove (replace)
packages when necessary.

E.g. if you have some appfoo depending on libblurb, and there's a
newer version of apfoo depending on libblah, which conflicts with
libblurb, upgrade would be stuck at the older version, whereas
dist-upgrade would (other dependencies allowing it) replace libblurb
with libblah, thus clearing the path for apfoo's new version.

cheers
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Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[Stéphane Rivière]

Le 22/05/2017 à 00:51, kaliderus a écrit :
> Le bonjour,
> 
> Connaissez-vous des solutions de vidéosurveillance qui tournent avec
> notre Debian préférée ?

Oui !

> Si vous avez quelques références "professionnelles" j'apprécierai...

Zoneminder ! Libre... détection de mouvement intégrée pas mal du tout...
Plein de possibilités de hacks... App pour smartphone...

Vraiment bien :)

Je l'utilise même en recyclant des vieux PC pas pêchus (trucs en IDE,
avec des disques deux disques de 500Go en raid 1 et 1,5 Go de ram), dans
une config encore plus légère qu'XFCE (le très beau Windowmaker)...

Un copier/collé (très sale, désolé) de mon wiki, (pour le reste, il est
facile à configurer via son serveur web) :

--
Architecture
1Introduction

Compte tenu des spécificités de Zoneminder, l'installation de ce dernier
se fera soit :
- Via une configuration légère fondée sur WindowMaker ;
- Via une VM, dans le cadre d'un serveur local.

Ce document décrit l'installation d'un serveur Zoneminder.
1.1  Système
Le système d'exploitation, le « L » de « LAMP » est : GNU/Linux Debian 8
Jessie.

Debian est le roi des systèmes serveurs sous Linux. Son niveau de
sécurité et de fiabilité est sans équivalent. Son système de gestion de
paquets « aptitude » est le meilleur de tous les Linux.

L'installation et la sécurisation de base sont décrits dans : serveur
INTERNIX (cloud).odt

1.2  LAMP Stack
La « LAMP » stack est conservée car Zoneminder est très liée à cette
dernière.


Installation Système
1Généralités

Installer le système. Ne choisir aucune installation typique par défaut
(tout décocher).

En fonction du support (machine physique ou VM) :
- Prévoir 12 Go sur / et un nombre suffisant de Go sur /srv pour le
stockage des vidéos et des données SQL ;
- Moduler les paquets préconisés en fonction du hardware ou du contexte.
2Base


# Installer boot sur second disque RAID

root@system: grub-install /dev/sdb

root@system: update-grub /dev/sdb

root@system: apt-get install aptitude
root@system: aptitude keep-all

root@system: aptitude install mc


Mettre à jour les dépôts  :

/etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib
non-free

# jessie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports main
deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports main


Mettre à jour le système et installer les paquets :


# Mise à jour

root@system: aptitude update
root@system: aptitude upgrade

# Postfix doit être installé pour supprimer Exim avant l'installation
des smartmontools

root@system: aptitude install ssh xorg lightdm wmaker postfix

# Pour les cartes graphiques et réseau

root@system: aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-realtek
3Finalisations
3.1  Smartmontools


root@system: aptitude install smartmontools



<<< CONFIG SMARMONTOOLS >>>

3.2  LM-Sensors


root@system: aptitude install lm-sensors

# Configuration

root@system: sensors-detect

# Contrôle

root@system: sensors

3.3  Grub

/etc/default/grub

...
GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
GRUB_BACKGROUND="usr/share/images/desktop_base/lightdm_gris.png"
...



root@system: update-grub

3.4  LightDM

/etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf

...
background=/usr/share/images/desktop_base/lightdm_gris.png"
...

Installation Zoneminder
1Base


root@system: aptitude install php5 mysql-server php-pear php5-mysql php5-gd

# Noter le mot de passe MySQL


Déplacer le chemin des bases MySQL :


root@system: systemctl stop mysql

root@system: mv /var/lib/mysql /srv/sql


Mettre à jour :

/etc/mysql/my.cnf

...
datadir = /srv/sql
...

# set MySQL to use innodb_file_per_table

[mysqld]
...
innodb_file_per_table
...

2Zoneminder
Installer

root@system: aptitude install zoneminder


Paramétrer :


root@system: mysql -uroot -p < /usr/share/zoneminder/db/zm_create.sql
root@system: mysql -uroot -p -e "grant all on zm.* to 'zmuser'@localhost
identified by 'zmpass';"
root@system: mysqladmin -uroot -p reload

root@system: chmod 740 /etc/zm/zm.conf
root@system: chown root:www-data /etc/zm/zm.conf

root@system: adduser www-data video


Mettre à jour, à la fin du fichier :

/etc/apache2/conf-enabled/zoneminder.conf

...

AllowOverride All

...


Déplacer le chemin de Zoneminder

root@system: mv /usr/share/zoneminder/www/ /srv/www/zm/


Créer ou mettre à jour ces paramètres et valeurs :

/etc/apache2/conf-enabled

Alias /zm /srv/www/zm



/etc/apache2.conf


...

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[Stéphane Aulery]

Le 22/05/2017 09:14, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Le 22/05/2017 à 00:51, kaliderus a écrit :

Le bonjour,

Connaissez-vous des solutions de vidéosurveillance qui tournent avec
notre Debian préférée ?
Si vous avez quelques références "professionnelles" j'apprécierai...


J'ai longtemps cherché et n'ai trouvé aucune solution libre sous
Linux. NUUO a des recorders qui tournent avec leur logiciel
propriétaire sous Linux. Solution 100% libre: iSpy sous Windows. Pour
ces 2 solutions on peut utiliser IPCam viewer sous Android et iPhone
afin d'avoir accès aux images à distance. NUUO possède sa propre
application si l'on préfère rester dans leur enviroennement.


Et en ouvrant une instance du logiciel par caméra dans un gestionnaire 
de fenêtres en tilling ?


--
Stéphane Aulery

Re: [RESOLU (presque)] Lire des vidéos sur Vimeo avec Firefox?

[Vincent Lefevre]

Bonjour,

On 2017-05-21 14:11:54 +0200, maderios wrote:
> Concernant flash, on peut empêcher le lancement automatique des
> vidéo avec le réglage "ask to activate"

Ça fait longtemps que je n'ai plus Flash.

-- 
Vincent Lefèvre  - Web: 
100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: 
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 22/05/2017 à 00:51, kaliderus a écrit :

Le bonjour,

Connaissez-vous des solutions de vidéosurveillance qui tournent avec
notre Debian préférée ?
Si vous avez quelques références "professionnelles" j'apprécierai...


J'ai longtemps cherché et n'ai trouvé aucune solution libre sous Linux. 
NUUO a des recorders qui tournent avec leur logiciel propriétaire sous 
Linux. Solution 100% libre: iSpy sous Windows. Pour ces 2 solutions on 
peut utiliser IPCam viewer sous Android et iPhone afin d'avoir accès aux 
images à distance. NUUO possède sa propre application si l'on préfère 
rester dans leur enviroennement.


--
Daniel

Find out about your late relative

[Lea John]

Dear  debian-user-swedish@lists.debian.org,

I received your file from Mr. Maurice Moreau a genealogical surveys.

It's about an estate of your late relative I would like us to discuss about it.

Regards.

John Lea.

Re: Is this sources.list correct?

[Matthew McKinnon]

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:45:05AM -0400, Fjfj109 wrote:
> On Stretch, upgraded from Jessie. https://paste.debian.net/933553/

When updating from Jessie to Stretch. Just replace all the 'Jessie' references 
in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to 'Stretch'

You can do this with a quick sed (backup your sources.list first):
  
  sed -i 's|jessie|stretch|g' /etc/apt/sources.list

Your sources look OK. I compared them to a Jessie one that I have and other 
than the repo you are referencing looks good.


Thanks
Matt