Re: Regarding your case number 10724899 [ ref:_00D00hhzl._5004V11emZL:ref ]

2020-09-24 Thread David Christensen

On 2020-09-24 15:43, discsupp...@seagate.com wrote:

Thank you for getting back to us with that information. My name is Angelo. I am 
very sorry that the steps provided to you in the last email did not work. I 
would like to assure you that we will continue to do our best to find a 
resolution that works for you
  
You will need a Windows computer to burn the SeaTools boot image to a flash drive OR any Linux computer that supports burning ISO files to a flash drive, therefore regardless of the operating system you will need to burn the ISO file to a drive flash and start the computer from there to run SeaTools Bootable.

https://www.seagate.com/manuals/software/seatools-bootable/support-and-open-source-statement/

Please let us know if the solution above meets all of your support needs. We 
look forward to your response.  Have a great week. Remember we are here to help 
you and we will be happy to do so from Monday – Friday
  
Kind regards,
  
Angelo

Seagate Support
https://support2.seagate.com/
  


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What is the URL for the ISO file for SeaToolsBootable_RC_2.1.2?


What is the URL for the source code for TinyCore Linux and any other GPL 
v2 code distributed with SeaToolsBootable_RC_2.1.2?



Sincerely yours,

David Christensen
Tracy, California, USA
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Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 03:40:16 (+), mike.junk...@att.net wrote:

> Trying to get mutt to send mail I've got this in .muttrc:
> 
> set smtp_pass="myPasswd"
> # set smtp_url="smtp[s]://[user[:pass]@]host[:port]"
> # set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:mypas...@suddenlink.net:587"
> set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:mypas...@suddenlink.net:587/"

I don't know the effect of specifying your password in both places.
(I believe the idea behind smtp_pass is so that it can be placed in
a separate, protected file.)

I would expect the loginname (user above) to include a domain,
ie it's usually an email address. (Mine always have been.)

I don't think suddenlink.net accepts mail; smtp.suddenlink.net does.

I omit the port number 587 as it's the default.

So I would have either:

set smtp_pass="myPasswd"
set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclai...@suddenlink.net@smtp.suddenlink.net/"

or:

set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclai...@suddenlink.net:mypas...@smtp.suddenlink.net/"

> # set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:mypas...@suddenlink.net:465/"
> # set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:mypas...@suddenlink.net:465"
> #smtp.suddenlink.net::587
> #smtp_url="smtp://loginn...@smtp.server.net:587/"
> set smtp_authenticators="plain"

Seems ok from 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN below.

> # set smtp_authenticators=
> set envelope_from_address="mikemcclai...@suddenlink.net"
> set use_envelope_from
> 
> The commented lines above are things I tried that didn't work.
> 
> This is a line from /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf that worked when I had 
> exim4 installed:
> dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587'

That looks ok. I get the response (using port 587):

250 STARTTLS
ehlo axis.corp
250-omta04.suddenlink.net
250-HELP
250-XREMOTEQUEUE
250-ETRN
250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
250-PIPELINING
250-DSN
250-8BITMIME
250 SIZE 52428800

> /etc/mailname says this:
> mikemcclain...@suddenlink.net

/etc/mailname should only contain a domainname, not an address.
Mine has just axis.corp in it, as I send mail from this machine.

> trying to send mail via mutt:
>     Could not connect to suddenlink.net (Interrupted system call).
> 
> Thinking postfix might be messing things up I deleted it.
> That made no difference so I installed dma, still no outgoing mail, deleted.
> 
> What am I missing?

Cheers,
David.



Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932

2020-09-24 Thread mike.junk...@att.net



Re: Mail transfer agent 

Sorry for breaking the chain.
Yahoo mail doesn't handle lists well and every time I tried trimming the excess 
Yahoo threw the message in the trash.
Trying to get mutt to send mail I've got this in .muttrc:

set smtp_pass="myPasswd"
# set smtp_url="smtp[s]://[user[:pass]@]host[:port]"
# set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:mypas...@suddenlink.net:587"
set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:mypas...@suddenlink.net:587/"
# set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:mypas...@suddenlink.net:465/"
# set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:mypas...@suddenlink.net:465"
#smtp.suddenlink.net::587
#smtp_url="smtp://loginn...@smtp.server.net:587/"
set smtp_authenticators="plain"
# set smtp_authenticators=
set envelope_from_address="mikemcclai...@suddenlink.net"
set use_envelope_from

The commented lines above are things I tried that didn't work.

This is a line from /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf that worked when I had 
exim4 installed:
dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587'

/etc/mailname says this:
mikemcclain...@suddenlink.net

trying to send mail via mutt:
    Could not connect to suddenlink.net (Interrupted system call).

Thinking postfix might be messing things up I deleted it.
That made no difference so I installed dma, still no outgoing mail, deleted.

What am I missing?

Thanks,
Mike




On Thursday, September 24, 2020, 11:28:50 AM CDT, 
debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org 
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debian-user-digest Digest                Volume 2020 : Issue 932

Today's Topics:
  Re: crc not installed but rsync usin  [ Thomas Pircher  ]
  Returning to /var/log/boot.log        [ anthony gennard  ]
  Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log    [ Greg Wooledge  ]
  Re: notify via virtual terminal avai  [ Charles Curley  ]
  Re: notify via virtual terminal avai  [ Greg Wooledge  ]
  Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log    [ Hans  ]
  Re: notify via virtual terminal avai  [ Charles Curley  ]
  Re: notify via virtual terminal avai  [ Charles Curley  ]
  Re: Mail transfer agent              [ David Wright  ]
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 14:31:56 +0100
From: Thomas Pircher 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...
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Albretch Mueller wrote:
> rsync uses crc for its data integrity checks. Why is it you can't use
> it like any other OS utility?

The code for CRC is so small and simple that virtually all applications
choose to implement it directly, rather than use a library or an
external application for it.

Also, note, there is no single `crc` (unlike MD5 or sha128). Strictly
speaking, Cyclic Redundancy Code is an algorithm, and you need to
specify more parameters (bit-width, polynom, initial value, and more) to
be able to actually implement it in code.
Sometimes people also say CRC when it is unambiguous in a certain field,
like CRC-32 for ethernet frames).

> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a
> public Windows machine?

I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the
previous one.

Cheers,
Thomas
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:59:57 +0100
From: anthony gennard 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Returning to /var/log/boot.log
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I am looking at the contents of my boot log file; when trying to get out of
the very long file I thought Ctrl + c should do it - it does not and I
cannot
find any way. I wanted to try tail and head so see how they do. Can anyone
please help me.

Also is there any simple way to print out the last run.

I am trying to get back my command of debian following a Stroke and
complete loss of memory. It`s a very difficult problem at 90,years of age.

Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:45:47 -0400
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On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 09:59:57AM +0100, anthony gennard wrote:
> I am looking at the contents of my boot log file; when trying to get out of
> the very long file I thought Ctrl + c should 

Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I neglected to mention that I run XFCE with its System Load Monitor panel
> plugin having a RAM indicator bar that climbs and maxes out right before the
> hang.  RAM is something I often need to monitor because I run scientific
> computing programs which can also exhaust my RAM if I'm not careful.

OK, the climb you describe does justify your suspicion that it's related
to RAM usage.  It's not a proof, but it's a strong indication.

> The hanging behavior is like a step function: the computer goes from being
> fully responsive to completely unresponsive;

That's very much *unlike* a normal "out of RAM" situation, OTOH.
Normally what happens is that the OS starts to shuffle things around
(throwing out cached data, moving other to swap, etc...) making the
machine slower and slower.

The step function sounds much more like a bug such as a deadlock.

> I don't don't see the swap bar in the System Load Monitor increase,
> which is strange.  I have experienced slow swap behavior before, but
> usually there I have intermittent control to Ctrl+Q programs and
> recover out of the slowness at time scales on the order of a few tens
> of seconds.

That's what happens for "normal out of RAM" situations, indeed.

> Your thought about swap inspired me to check whether my swap partition is
> functional.  I don't know how to empirically test that swap works and only
> know to reading /etc/fstab where I do see that I have a swap mount point
> present.  `apropos swap` led me to check systemd's swap.target which I also
> see is active, and also see the corresponding swap volume in systemctl.
> This resembles my laptop setup where I know the swap partition works there,
> from the rare occasions where I seeing its swap bar move in the XFCE System
> Load Monitor panel plugin.

You could run a `memtester` process and tell it to test, say 6GB, so you
the kernel only has 2GB left to play with and it will be forced to push
stuff to swap, which you should then see in the output of `free`.

But I suspect in your case the details of *how* you get into the "out of
RAM" are relevant.  

> This is a great insight.  I've hit my share of graphics card bugs over the
> years.  A few years ago I was bitten by an Intel IOMMU related graphical bug
> on my laptop which I worked around with a kernel parameter tweak.
> In earlier years, similar story with nvidia and nouveau drivers.

Indeed, graphics card bugs often display the step function, because if
the rest of the system may keep working (at least for a while), you
can't really "see" it (unless you manage to connect into the machine
via the network).

> What's also unusual about this desktop is it's my first attempt using ZFS on

I have no experience or even much knowledge about ZFS, sorry.
You might want to try and set that same machine up with an ext4
filesystem instead temporarily to see if you can reproduce the problem
even without the use of ZFS (depending on how ZFS is used and your disk
setup, it might be possible to do it easily, without having to
reinstall (which could result in a sufficiently different system that
it'd then be hard to convince oneself that the only difference is
ZFS-vs-ext4)).


Stefan



Re: Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian

2020-09-24 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
 Yo uso unas Encore ENUWI-G2
Son del tipo USB
Hace muchos años compré 10 de esas (estaban en oferta) y salieron MUY BUENAS.
Se enchufan y salen andando.
 El miércoles, 23 de septiembre de 2020 20:47:08 ART, Jefferson Smith 
Pizarro Gutierrez  escribió:  
 
 Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian  por favor los mas 
recientes
mencionen unas y si tienen un link en amazon de las que funcioann plugn and 
play seria mejor
  

Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-24 Thread Linux-Fan

Pariksheet Nanda writes:


> I just checked my other server which has ZFS on root without encryption,
and see that I did not enable swap at all on that machine. So I'll disable
swap, thrash the RAM with`stress`, and then hopefully the OOM-killer works
like it does on that machine.

Yay!  Indeed disabling swap allowed the OOM-killer to work.

Pariksheet


Hello,

glad you could solve the problem and thanks for sharing the solution.

I am planning on using ZFS, too, so would you mind a follow-up question
about your setup: Is your swap on a ZFS volume?

I have heard there are bugs with Swap-on-ZFS which may cause lockups similar
to what you describe:

https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/342
https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/7734

Thanks in advance
Linux-Fan

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Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-24 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
> I just checked my other server which has ZFS on root without encryption, and 
> see that I did not enable swap at all on that machine. So I'll disable swap, 
> thrash the RAM with`stress`, and then hopefully the OOM-killer works like it 
> does on that machine.

Yay!  Indeed disabling swap allowed the OOM-killer to work.

Pariksheet


$ sudo swapoff -av
swapoff /dev/zd0
$ stress -m 4 --vm-bytes 2000M
stress: info: [16295] dispatching hogs: 0 cpu, 0 io, 4 vm, 0 hdd
stress: FAIL: [16295] (415) <-- worker 16299 got signal 9
stress: WARN: [16295] (417) now reaping child worker processes
stress: FAIL: [16295] (451) failed run completed in 2s
$ sudo journalctl -rt kernel | head
-- Logs begin at Tue 2020-06-23 13:23:36 EDT, end at Thu 2020-09-24 20:06:09 
EDT. --
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 16838 (stress), now 
anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: Killed process 16838 (stress) total-vm:2051852kB, 
anon-rss:1345260kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 16838 (stress) score 
166 or sacrifice child
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: [  16840] 0 16840 1143   3953248
0 0 nc
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: [  16839]  1000 16839   512963   323517  2637824
0 0 stress
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: [  16838]  1000 16838   512963   336315  2740224
0 0 stress
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: [  16837]  1000 16837   512963   308763  2523136
0 0 stress
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: [  16836]  1000 16836   512963   313283  2555904
0 0 stress
Sep 24 20:02:12 xm1 kernel: [  16835]  1000 16835  962   2040960
0 0 stress



Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-24 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
Hi Stefan,

>> My crystal ball says that you're not running out of RAM, but you're
>> hitting a nasty bug instead. I hope I'm wrong.
>
> Perhaps there's a ZFS bug or misconfiguration that happens before the 
> OOM-killer has the chance to be involked. The encryption support is a 
> relatively new feature and I wonder how it behaves with swap.

I just checked my other server which has ZFS on root without encryption, and 
see that I did not enable swap at all on that machine.  So I'll disable swap, 
thrash the RAM with `stress`, and then hopefully the OOM-killer works like it 
does on that machine.


>> Stefan
>
> Pariksheet

Pariksheet



Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-24 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
Hi Stefan,

>> Every few days, my desktop runs out of RAM, and this usually happens while
>> web browsing.
>
> What exactly makes you think the problem is that it ran out of RAM?
--snip--
> If your problem is due to a lack of free RAM, I'd expect the OOM to do
> its job at some point and I'd also expect the machine get slower
> somewhat gradually. So, before hanging, does your machine "feel slower
> and slower and slower"?

Good question!

The hanging behavior is like a step function: the computer goes from being 
fully responsive to completely unresponsive; I don't don't see the swap bar in 
the System Load Monitor increase, which is strange.  I have experienced slow 
swap behavior before, but usually there I have intermittent control to Ctrl+Q 
programs and recover out of the slowness at time scales on the order of a few 
tens of seconds.

Your thought about swap inspired me to check whether my swap partition is 
functional.  I don't know how to empirically test that swap works and only know 
to reading /etc/fstab where I do see that I have a swap mount point present.  
`apropos swap` led me to check systemd's swap.target which I also see is 
active, and also see the corresponding swap volume in systemctl.  This 
resembles my laptop setup where I know the swap partition works there, from the 
rare occasions where I seeing its swap bar move in the XFCE System Load Monitor 
panel plugin.


>> I wait for as much as an hour and a half, but just see the
>> screen as frozen the way it was at the time of the hang. 8 GB RAM is
>> installed in it, and it's running Debian 10.
>
> I do regular email+web on 3GB machines on a regular basis, so if your
> machine "swaps to death" despite 8GB of RAM, either you're visiting web
> sites which use up a lot more RAM than the ones I visit (that's
> definitely possible), or you're hitting a bug that may be unrelated to
> the amount of free RAM.

This is a great insight.  I've hit my share of graphics card bugs over the 
years.  A few years ago I was bitten by an Intel IOMMU related graphical bug on 
my laptop which I worked around with a kernel parameter tweak.  In earlier 
years, similar story with nvidia and nouveau drivers.

What's also unusual about this desktop is it's my first attempt using encrypted 
ZFS on Linux for personal work, and I've noticed that ZFS uses a lot of RAM.  
Even when I have no significant applications running in my desktop I suspect it 
can grow to use as much as half my RAM, but because the ZFS kernel processes 
register RAM usage as 0 in the process managers like htop, etc, it's usually 
difficult to directly quantify the effect and I only suspect it's heavy memory 
use from previous experience using XFCE without ZFS.  I have a setup nearly 
identical to 
https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Debian/Debian%20Buster%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html
 and am using the latest zfs version 0.8.4-2~bpo10+1.


> My crystal ball says that you're not running out of RAM, but you're
> hitting a nasty bug instead. I hope I'm wrong.

I think it might be prudent to seek help from the ZFS folks to see what they 
say.  Maybe something is misconfigured with using the ZFS swap partition and 
there might be some ZFS related logging I could collect to better understand 
what's going on.

Perhaps there's a ZFS bug or misconfiguration that happens before the 
OOM-killer has the chance to be involked.  The encryption support is a 
relatively new feature and I wonder how it behaves with swap.

Thank you for all your thoughtful questions and insights!


> Stefan

Pariksheet



Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote:
> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a
> >> public Windows machine?
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the
> > previous one.
> 
>  How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg
> --install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32 and/or CRC64

I can't believe the answer is as simple as visiting
https://packages.debian.org/index
and downloading the packages you want (in binary mode).

Or is the problem your aversion to plugging a USB stick
into a public computer lest it become terminally polluted?

On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 20:23:51 (+0200), Sven Hartge wrote:
> Albretch Mueller  wrote:

> > How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg
> > --install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32 and/or CRC64
> 
> Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to achieve by
> doing this?

Perhaps the answer might be hinted at in postings like:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/10/msg00449.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/08/msg00352.html

Cheers,
David.



Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread mick crane

On 2020-09-24 18:19, Brian wrote:

On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 +, mike.junk...@att.net wrote:



On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter 
 wrote:

 mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 

What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
exactly what you want to have happen.
-dsr-
Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail and
put it in a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt and
send it to my ISP via smtp3) take messages from the system, eg: cron
and deliver them to that same mailbox4) take a simple message on the
CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops' no...@example.com

I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for
my needs.


I too have been using exim for years in a similar way to the way you
describe. It does the job very well and I just let it get on with it.
I don't really understand what you mean by "overkill" and think you are
fussing over nothing.


I know how I get mail.
I've been using roundcube for a few years. I know I put in the SMTP 
server, account and password for being allowed in the configuration but 
I actually have no idea what is used for the sending. I probably should.


mick



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Re: [testing] noyau 5.8 => plus de sortie audio analogique

2020-09-24 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Le jeudi 24 septembre 2020 à 06:54 +0200, F. Dubois a écrit :
> Le 24/09/2020 à 01:11, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> > Je viens de passer en 5.8 sur ma testing et je constate que je n'ai plus de
> > sortie audio analogique. Seule une sortie SPDIF est présentée ...
> > Est-ce pareil pour vous ?
> > 
> > Gaëtan
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> Oui, c'est très aléatoire. Pulseaudio débloque complètement. Je suis en 
> Sid mais ça correspond bien, on dirait, au changement de noyau.
> 
> Normalement un pulseaudio -k puis pulseaudio -D résout le problème... 
> jusqu'au prochain reboot.
> Pas plus à dire, donc si il y a plus d'explications je suis preneur aussi.
> 
> Fabien
> 

Bonjour,

Je ne sais pas si c'est lié aux mises à jours de udev et systemd aujourd'hui
mais j'ai récupéré ma sortie analogique. Par contre il me semblait que dans le
temps on pouvait sélectionner une config 2.0 ou 2.1 ? Maintenant c'est 5.0 mini
...

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Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Sven Hartge
Albretch Mueller  wrote:

>>> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a
>>> public Windows machine?
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the
>> previous one.

> How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg
> --install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32 and/or CRC64

Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to achieve by
doing this?

Grüße,
Sven

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.



Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
Hi,

> Every few days, my desktop runs out of RAM, and this usually happens while
> web browsing.

What exactly makes you think the problem is that it ran out of RAM?

> I wait for as much as an hour and a half, but just see the
> screen as frozen the way it was at the time of the hang. 8 GB RAM is
> installed in it, and it's running Debian 10.

I do regular email+web on 3GB machines on a regular basis, so if your
machine "swaps to death" despite 8GB of RAM, either you're visiting web
sites which use up a lot more RAM than the ones I visit (that's
definitely possible), or you're hitting a bug that may be unrelated to
the amount of free RAM.

If your problem is due to a lack of free RAM, I'd expect the OOM to do
its job at some point and I'd also expect the machine get slower
somewhat gradually.  So, before hanging, does your machine "feel slower
and slower and slower"?

My crystal ball says that you're not running out of RAM, but you're
hitting a nasty bug instead.  I hope I'm wrong.


Stefan



Re: Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian

2020-09-24 Thread Walter O. Dari

El 24/9/20 a las 02:27, Camaleón escribió:

El 2020-09-23 a las 23:46 -, Jefferson Smith Pizarro Gutierrez escribió:


Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian  por favor los mas 
recientes


Si no la quieres para un uso determinado, elije la que más te guste
pero asegúrate antes de que el chipset que lleva está soportado por el
kernel, y mejor aún si es de código abierto:

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers

Los chipset atheros eran libres, tenían buen soporte en linux y
funcionaban bastante bien, pero no sé si seguirá igual tras la compra
de Qualcomm.

En inalámbrico y USB, he probado adapatdores de MSI y Conceptronic,
ambos funcionando sin problemas.


Con el chipset Realtek, hasta ahora, nunca problemas.


mencionen unas y si tienen un link en amazon de las que funcioann plugn and 
play seria mejor


Ese ya es trabajo tuyo... ;-)




Saludos,


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Re: Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian

2020-09-24 Thread Felix Perez
El mié., 23 de sep. de 2020 a la(s) 20:47, Jefferson Smith Pizarro
Gutierrez (jp...@icloud.com) escribió:
>
> Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian  por favor los 
> mas recientes
>
> mencionen unas y si tienen un link en amazon de las que funcioann plugn and 
> play seria mejor

Mande.
Y no quieres que te las compre y envíe a tu domicilio?

Saludos.


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Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread Brian
On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 +, mike.junk...@att.net wrote:

>  
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter 
>  wrote:  
>  mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 
> 
> What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
> specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
> exactly what you want to have happen.
> -dsr-
> Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail and
> put it in a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt and
> send it to my ISP via smtp3) take messages from the system, eg: cron
> and deliver them to that same mailbox4) take a simple message on the
> CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops' no...@example.com
> 
> I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for
> my needs.

I too have been using exim for years in a similar way to the way you
describe. It does the job very well and I just let it get on with it.
I don't really understand what you mean by "overkill" and think you are
fussing over nothing.

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Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Reco
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a
> >> public Windows machine?
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the
> > previous one.
> 
>  How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg
> --install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32 and/or CRC64

Typical Debian install has perl already, so you don't have to install
anything - [1].

Reco

[1] http://billauer.co.il/blog/2011/05/perl-crc32-crc-xs-module/



Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Thomas Pircher
Albretch Mueller wrote:
>  How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg
> --install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32 and/or CRC64

Hmm, the 'necessary utilities' might be jacksum, if it can calculate the
CRCs you are after, and what Debian release you are on.

How to get the package and its dependencies to your machine, that is a
different question and depends on what type of internet access you have,
if at all.

Is `apt install jacksum` not an option for you?

Thomas



Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log

2020-09-24 Thread anthony gennard
Thanks very much; it will take me some time to understand your advice. I
will revert as soon as I can.

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 15:03, Hans  wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, 24. September 2020, 15:45:47 CEST schrieb Greg Wooledge:
> I believe, the op wants to look it as easy as possible. So I suggest
> kwrite
> (if he has plasma5 aka KDE installed).
>
> You must got the correct rights. Either you start plasma as root, then you
> can
> just start kwrite and open the log file. or, ifr you start plasma as
> normal
> user, do this:
>
>
> Start a konsole (like xterm, konsole, uxterm)
>
> then type in "su -p" (without quotes) and enter the password of root.
>
> and last start "kwrite" in this konsole
>
> Now you can open your logfile.
>
> If you are using another window-manager like GNOME, LXDE, Enligtenment
> whatever, it might got another graphical editor.
>
> Note: Every graphical application can be started with higher rights from
> the
> konsole (or terminal, how others may call it), by getting higher rights
> with
> su -p.  (the -p stands for "preserve actual environment).
>
> Good luck
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 09:59:57AM +0100, anthony gennard wrote:
> > > I am looking at the contents of my boot log file; when trying to get
> out
> > > of
> > > the very long file I thought Ctrl + c should do it - it does not and I
> > > cannot
> > > find any way. I wanted to try tail and head so see how they do. Can
> anyone
> > > please help me.
> >
> > How are you "looking at" the file?  I would suggest using less.
> >
> > You get out of less by pressing q.
>
>
>
>
>


Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a
> >> public Windows machine?
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the
> > previous one.
> 
>  How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg
> --install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32 and/or CRC64

http://xyproblem.info/



Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
>> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a
>> public Windows machine?
>
> I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the
> previous one.

 How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg
--install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32 and/or CRC64

 Thank you,
 lbrtchx



OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-24 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
Hello,
First post to this list, so go easy on me!
Every few days, my desktop runs out of RAM, and this usually happens while web 
browsing. I wait for as much as an hour and a half, but just see the screen as 
frozen the way it was at the time of the hang. 8 GB RAM is installed in it, and 
it's running Debian 10. My experience with other Linux distributions has been 
that the out-of-memory killer works as expected, but I set 
vm.oom_kill_allocating_task = 1 in sysctl to avoid it - yes, I also save the 
setting persistently in a file /etc/sysctl.d/60-oom-killer.conf. I'm back to 
using the default 0 setting. I can reproduce the problem using:
stress -m 4 --vm-bytes 1000M
My persistent journald logging shows me no evidence of memory pressure being 
registered by the kernel or the oom-killer being involved leading up to the 
hang, so I'm not sure what to do next.
Pariksheet

Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 (+), mike.junk...@att.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter 
>  wrote:  
>  mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 
> 
> What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
> specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
> exactly what you want to have happen.
> -dsr-
> Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:
> 1) take mail from fetchmail and put it in a mailbox for mutt to display,

I thought that's what fetchmail did, and what mutt can do,
the difference being that fetchmail would put them onto your
system while you slept, whereas mutt would fetch them on demand.

> 2) take mail from mutt and send it to my ISP via smtp

I covered that in my previous post.

> 3) take messages from the system, eg: cron and deliver them to that same 
> mailbox

dma might be enough for doing that.

> 4) take a simple message on the CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops' 
> no...@example.com

I use mailx (in mailutils), but mutt can also do it.

> I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for my needs.

Size or complexity? The size of the binary is comparable with mutt.
Granted, there's more documentation, but one barely need touch it
for the above.

Cheers,
David.



Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages

2020-09-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 08:49:07AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> Ah, thank you. Yup. Which is weird, because it worked when I first
> wrote that many years ago.

"Many years ago", sh was probably a link to bash, rather than dash.



Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages

2020-09-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 10:38:55 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> In dash, RANDOM does nothing; it's just an empty variable.  And as it
> turns out, dash treats that as a zero.
> 
> unicorn:~$ dash
> $ echo $((1 + RANDOM % 1200))
> 1
> $ echo $((1 + % 1200))
> dash: 2: arithmetic expression: expecting primary: "1 + % 1200"
> $ echo $((1 + XYZZY % 1200))
> 1
> 
> So you're just doing "sleep 1" every time.

Ah, thank you. Yup. Which is weird, because it worked when I first
wrote that many years ago. I may or may not remove that part of the
line. But I will move toward more use of unattended-upgrades, which
handles the original problem differently.

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Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages

2020-09-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 08:10:04AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:59 -0400
> Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> 
> > RANDOM is a bashism, not available in sh, so that won't work in a
> > crontab unless you've altered which shell cron is using to parse the
> > crontab.
> 
> Well, that's interesting. The file I pulled that from (in /etc/cron.d)
> sets two variables explicitly:
> 
> SHELL=/bin/sh
> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> 
> And the machine that it runs on shows:
> 
> root@hawk:~# ll /bin/sh
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jan 17  2019 /bin/sh -> dash*

In dash, RANDOM does nothing; it's just an empty variable.  And as it
turns out, dash treats that as a zero.

unicorn:~$ dash
$ echo $((1 + RANDOM % 1200))
1
$ echo $((1 + % 1200))
dash: 2: arithmetic expression: expecting primary: "1 + % 1200"
$ echo $((1 + XYZZY % 1200))
1

So you're just doing "sleep 1" every time.



Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages

2020-09-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:59 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> RANDOM is a bashism, not available in sh, so that won't work in a
> crontab unless you've altered which shell cron is using to parse the
> crontab.

Well, that's interesting. The file I pulled that from (in /etc/cron.d)
sets two variables explicitly:

SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin

And the machine that it runs on shows:

root@hawk:~# ll /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jan 17  2019 /bin/sh -> dash*
root@hawk:~# ll /bin/dash 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 121464 Jan 17  2019 /bin/dash*
root@hawk:~# file /bin/dash 
/bin/dash: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically 
linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, 
BuildID[sha1]=486323dd0fe3ec5af388e4ea4217a1f0092961d2, stripped
root@hawk:~# 




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Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log

2020-09-24 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 24. September 2020, 15:45:47 CEST schrieb Greg Wooledge:
I believe, the op wants to look it as easy as possible. So I suggest kwrite 
(if he has plasma5 aka KDE installed).

You must got the correct rights. Either you start plasma as root, then you can 
just start kwrite and open the log file. or, ifr you start plasma as normal 
user, do this:


Start a konsole (like xterm, konsole, uxterm)

then type in "su -p" (without quotes) and enter the password of root. 

and last start "kwrite" in this konsole

Now you can open your logfile.

If you are using another window-manager like GNOME, LXDE, Enligtenment 
whatever, it might got another graphical editor.

Note: Every graphical application can be started with higher rights from the 
konsole (or terminal, how others may call it), by getting higher rights with 
su -p.  (the -p stands for "preserve actual environment).

Good luck

Hans



> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 09:59:57AM +0100, anthony gennard wrote:
> > I am looking at the contents of my boot log file; when trying to get out
> > of
> > the very long file I thought Ctrl + c should do it - it does not and I
> > cannot
> > find any way. I wanted to try tail and head so see how they do. Can anyone
> > please help me.
> 
> How are you "looking at" the file?  I would suggest using less.
> 
> You get out of less by pressing q.






Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages

2020-09-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 07:23:28AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
>5  3  **   *   rootsleep $( echo $((1 + 
> RANDOM \% 1200)) ) ; /usr/bin/apt-get update > /dev/null && /usr/bin/apt-get 
> -dy dist-upgrade > /dev/null

RANDOM is a bashism, not available in sh, so that won't work in a
crontab unless you've altered which shell cron is using to parse the
crontab.

If you *do* use bash to parse the line, then the $( echo ... ) bit is
unnecessary.

sleep $((1 + RANDOM \% 1200))

But the safer way is simply to assume that the crontab is being parsed by
sh (because that's what is actually used by default), and move your
bash-specific code to a script.  Then call the script from the crontab.



Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log

2020-09-24 Thread john doe

On 9/24/2020 10:59 AM, anthony gennard wrote:

I am looking at the contents of my boot log file; when trying to get out of
the very long file I thought Ctrl + c should do it - it does not and I
cannot
find any way. I wanted to try tail and head so see how they do. Can anyone
please help me.

Also is there any simple way to print out the last run.

I am trying to get back my command of debian following a Stroke and
complete loss of memory. It`s a very difficult problem at 90,years of age.

Thanks.



If you know what you are looking for in the file, you could use awk,
grep, sed or whatever you want.

Tail, cat, tac are also an options.


In other words, we need to know what you want to be able to provide you
with a command.

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Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread mike.junk...@att.net
 
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter 
 wrote:  
 mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 

What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
exactly what you want to have happen.
-dsr-
Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail and put it in 
a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt and send it to my ISP via 
smtp3) take messages from the system, eg: cron and deliver them to that same 
mailbox4) take a simple message on the CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 
'oops' no...@example.com

I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for my needs.
Thanks,Mike
  

Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages

2020-09-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 22:36:36 +0200
Pòl Hallen  wrote:

> like ubuntu, what's the best way to show a notify alert (via
> terminal) about available packages?

I take it you mean, *new* available packages. I don't know how Ubuntu
does it, so I'll tell you what I do. And the answer depends on what you
want to do.

You could install unattended-upgrades, and let that notify you (via
email) of packages it has already upgraded for you and the occasional
reboot required.

If that's a bit too trusting, set a cron job to pull in new packages,
but not install them. I use:

   5  3  ** *   rootsleep $( echo $((1 + 
RANDOM \% 1200)) ) ; /usr/bin/apt-get update > /dev/null && /usr/bin/apt-get 
-dy dist-upgrade > /dev/null

The sleep command waits for up to 1200 seconds. That is there because I
have a small herd of computers here and way back when I was on dial-up
I did not want to swamp my connection.

The apt-get update does an update, and throws away the output.

Same with the dist-upgrade. The -d does a download only.

You could follow that with "apt list --upgradable -a" so cron will
email you a list of available upgrades. Or you could run that manually
when you are ready. I just run "apt upgrade" when I am ready. As I
mentioned, I have a small herd of computers. I run a shell script based
on mssh to check all of them for updates.

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Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log

2020-09-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 09:59:57AM +0100, anthony gennard wrote:
> I am looking at the contents of my boot log file; when trying to get out of
> the very long file I thought Ctrl + c should do it - it does not and I
> cannot
> find any way. I wanted to try tail and head so see how they do. Can anyone
> please help me.

How are you "looking at" the file?  I would suggest using less.

You get out of less by pressing q.



Returning to /var/log/boot.log

2020-09-24 Thread anthony gennard
I am looking at the contents of my boot log file; when trying to get out of
the very long file I thought Ctrl + c should do it - it does not and I
cannot
find any way. I wanted to try tail and head so see how they do. Can anyone
please help me.

Also is there any simple way to print out the last run.

I am trying to get back my command of debian following a Stroke and
complete loss of memory. It`s a very difficult problem at 90,years of age.

Thanks.


Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Thomas Pircher
Albretch Mueller wrote:
> rsync uses crc for its data integrity checks. Why is it you can't use
> it like any other OS utility?

The code for CRC is so small and simple that virtually all applications
choose to implement it directly, rather than use a library or an
external application for it.

Also, note, there is no single `crc` (unlike MD5 or sha128). Strictly
speaking, Cyclic Redundancy Code is an algorithm, and you need to
specify more parameters (bit-width, polynom, initial value, and more) to
be able to actually implement it in code.
Sometimes people also say CRC when it is unambiguous in a certain field,
like CRC-32 for ethernet frames).

> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a
> public Windows machine?

I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the
previous one.

Cheers,
Thomas



Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 03:09:05PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> rsync uses crc for its data integrity checks. Why is it you can't use
> it like any other OS utility?
> 
> $ date; which crc
> Thu Sep 24 07:54:55 CEST 2020
> 

CRC is a family of checksum algorithms.  They're generally considered
to be primitive and outdated.  For the most part, you won't find
standalone tools for each CRC variant.  You could probably find one tool
that implements several of them, with options to select the one you
would like.

Tab completion tells me I've got one called "crc32" installed.

unicorn:~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/crc32
libarchive-zip-perl: /usr/bin/crc32

>From its man page:

   Note that the CRC-32 checksum is merely used  for  error  detection  in
   transmission  and storage.  It is not intended to guard against the ma‐
   licious modification of files (i.e., it is not a cryptographic hash).

There may very well be others.  Or, you could implement the algorithm(s)
yourself in C.  It would make a nice little freshman computer science
homework assignment.



traps: courieresmtp

2020-09-24 Thread Philipp Ewald

Hello,

maybe i found a bug in courier.

courier crash's when a E-Mail address contains "–" (EN DASH)

Kernel log:
traps: courieresmtp[36082] general protection

mail.log:
courieresmtp: Crashed child process 41684, while delivering to DO<96>MAIN.TLD

When i try to send a mail to DO–MAIN.TLD via thunderbird (smtp server is the same) or 
something else Server report: No such domain (replace DO–MAIN.TLD with a real domain 
containing normal "-")

tested with:

cat /some/mail/content | sendmail user@do(echo -e "\0\x96"| tr -d "\0")main.tld

is this a bug from courier? debian? maildrop?


kind regards
Philipp

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crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
rsync uses crc for its data integrity checks. Why is it you can't use
it like any other OS utility?

$ date; which crc
Thu Sep 24 07:54:55 CEST 2020

$ date; which rsync
Thu Sep 24 07:54:59 CEST 2020
/usr/bin/rsync

$ rsync --version
rsync  version 3.1.2  protocol version 31
Copyright (C) 1996-2015 by Andrew Tridgell, Wayne Davison, and others.
Web site: http://rsync.samba.org/
Capabilities:
64-bit files, 64-bit inums, 64-bit timestamps, 64-bit long ints,
socketpairs, hardlinks, symlinks, IPv6, batchfiles, inplace,
append, ACLs, xattrs, iconv, symtimes, prealloc

rsync comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you
are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  See the GNU
General Public Licence for details.
$

How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a
public Windows machine?

lbrtchx



Re: Support debian

2020-09-24 Thread Manu Baylac

Bonjour,


Le 24/09/2020 à 11:10, Data3V a écrit :


Nous souhaitons savoir si Debian propose le support et maintenance payant.


Wallace vous a répondu sur cette partie.


Si oui, est ce que les modules comme Samba V4 sont couvertes ?


J'administre des samba déjà depuis quelques années sous Debian stable, 
donc je peux vous faire un retour d'expérience concernant le "support" 
autour de Samba concernant Debian.


La doc officielle du projet Samba est sur leur wiki et est très très 
bien documentée pour chaque type de conf que vous voulez implémenter. Et 
la Mailing List est très active et réactive, et aboutissent (presque) 
toujours à la solution.
Y participent activement la Samba Team dont certains devs et de nombreux 
pros.

Vous avez donc ici un support de très grande qualité :-)

Si toutefois vous cherchez à tout prix un tiers support, je vois que des 
membres de l'entreprise https://www.tranquil.it/ interviennent 
régulièrement sur la liste et ont une grande expertise Samba.


2 remarques :

* Dans la logique Debian, une version de logiciel ne sera jamais 
upgradée durant son cycle de vie stable et Samba est un projet qui 
avance très vite. Ainsi, Buster propose 4.9.5 qui est déjà EOL, et la 
4.13 vient juste de sortir. Les backports ne suivent pas le rythme.
Mais un membre de la communauté propose les paquets debian des dernières 
versions des branches non EOL (4.11.x et 4.12.x) : 
http://apt.van-belle.nl/, et sont validés/recommandés par la Samba Team.

Donc pour pourrez avoir très facilement votre Samba à jour.

* D'après ce que je constate, les membres de la Samba Team utilisent 
eux-même Debian, Devuan ou Ubuntu.
Si vous hésitez avec une distribution Red Hat, sachez qu'il ne fait pas 
nativement bon ménage avec Samba (du moins pour faire un AD).
RHEL implemente MIT Kerberos qui n'est considéré que comme (très) 
expérimental dans Samba qui lui utilise Heimdal. Certes des 
contributeurs proposent leurs paquets mais c'est du gros tuning 
(modification de Kerbreos et des versions Python).


Donc si vous souhaitez utiliser Samba et surtout mettre en place un AD, 
Debian est un excellent choix :-)


Mes 2 cts.

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Manu
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Manu




Re: Support debian

2020-09-24 Thread Wallace

Bonjour,

Debian n'est pas une entreprise comme peut l'être RedHat, Ubuntu, Suse. 
Il n'y a donc pas de support payant, c'est une communauté. Ca a beaucoup 
d'avantage mais tu peux y voir aussi cet inconvénient de ne pas être 
suivi par l'éditeur.


Pour avoir du support pour Debian, il faut s'adresser à des sociétés 
d'infogérance spécialisée Debian, j'en connais une si besoin.


Et si le travail fournit par la communauté te fait économiser des 
budgets alors je t'encourage à faire des dons financiers ou matériel ou 
développement à Debian pour justement que ça ne devienne jamais une 
distribution d'une société.


Bonne journée

Le 24/09/2020 à 11:10, Data3V a écrit :


Bonjour

Nous sommes en train de tester l’AD samba V4 proposée par Debian pour 
un infra multi site de 18000 utilisateurs.


Les tests sont concluants pour l’instant.

Nous souhaitons savoir si Debian propose le support et maintenance payant.

Si oui, est ce que les modules comme Samba V4 sont couvertes ?

Bien cordialement,

Ashok Sundaram, Ingénieur Technique,
07 83 87 61 78 | asho...@data3v.com 



Data3V Experts en Solutions MFT 1, Rue de Stockholm 75008 PARIS France
Tel +33 (0)1 85 09 75 60 | Email i...@data3v.com 
 | www.data3v.com 




Support debian

2020-09-24 Thread Data3V
Bonjour
Nous sommes en train de tester l´AD samba V4 proposée par Debian pour un infra 
multi site de 18000 utilisateurs.
Les tests sont concluants pour l´instant.
 
Nous souhaitons savoir si Debian propose le support et maintenance payant.
Si oui, est ce que les modules comme Samba V4 sont couvertes ?
 
 
Bien cordialement,
Ashok Sundaram, Ingénieur Technique, 
07 83 87 61 78 | asho...@data3v.com mailto:asho...@data3v.com

Data3V Experts en Solutions MFT  1, Rue de Stockholm 75008 PARIS FranceTel +33 
(0)1 85 09 75 60 | Email i...@data3v.com | www.data3v.com


Re: [testing] noyau 5.8 => plus de sortie audio analogique

2020-09-24 Thread F. Dubois

Le 24/09/2020 à 01:11, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je viens de passer en 5.8 sur ma testing et je constate que je n'ai plus de
sortie audio analogique. Seule une sortie SPDIF est présentée ...
Est-ce pareil pour vous ?

Gaëtan


Bonjour,

Oui, c'est très aléatoire. Pulseaudio débloque complètement. Je suis en 
Sid mais ça correspond bien, on dirait, au changement de noyau.


Normalement un pulseaudio -k puis pulseaudio -D résout le problème... 
jusqu'au prochain reboot.

Pas plus à dire, donc si il y a plus d'explications je suis preneur aussi.

Fabien



Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages

2020-09-24 Thread john doe

On 9/23/2020 10:36 PM, Pòl Hallen wrote:

Hi :-)
like ubuntu, what's the best way to show a notify alert (via terminal)
about available packages?



I can't talk about Ubuntu but you could use a cronjob that checks
periodicly for new updates and use 'wall' to notify the users.

--
John Doe



Re: Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian

2020-09-24 Thread fernando fuertes
Yo utilizo TP-LINK y no he tenido problemas con ningun sistema Linux
El jue., 24 sept. 2020 a las 7:27, Camaleón () escribió:

El 2020-09-23 a las 23:46 -, Jefferson Smith Pizarro Gutierrez escribió:

> Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian  por favor los 
> mas recientes

Si no la quieres para un uso determinado, elije la que más te guste 
pero asegúrate antes de que el chipset que lleva está soportado por el 
kernel, y mejor aún si es de código abierto:

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers

Los chipset atheros eran libres, tenían buen soporte en linux y 
funcionaban bastante bien, pero no sé si seguirá igual tras la compra 
de Qualcomm.

En inalámbrico y USB, he probado adapatdores de MSI y Conceptronic,
ambos funcionando sin problemas.

> mencionen unas y si tienen un link en amazon de las que funcioann plugn and 
> play seria mejor

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 




Re: Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian

2020-09-24 Thread Juan Fuertes Morante
Yo utilizo TP-LINK y no he tenido problemas con ningún sistema Linux sin
embargo con el nuevo windows 10 si.

El jue., 24 sept. 2020 a las 7:27, Camaleón () escribió:

> El 2020-09-23 a las 23:46 -, Jefferson Smith Pizarro Gutierrez
> escribió:
>
> > Que Tarje de Red y usb Wifi recomiendan para usar en Debian  por favor
> los mas recientes
>
> Si no la quieres para un uso determinado, elije la que más te guste
> pero asegúrate antes de que el chipset que lleva está soportado por el
> kernel, y mejor aún si es de código abierto:
>
> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers
>
> Los chipset atheros eran libres, tenían buen soporte en linux y
> funcionaban bastante bien, pero no sé si seguirá igual tras la compra
> de Qualcomm.
>
> En inalámbrico y USB, he probado adapatdores de MSI y Conceptronic,
> ambos funcionando sin problemas.
>
> > mencionen unas y si tienen un link en amazon de las que funcioann plugn
> and play seria mejor
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>


Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 24 sep 20, 01:24:13, mike.junk...@att.net wrote:
> When I installed a minimal system on my Raspberry PI no mta was 
> installed.Though mutt claims to be a mta it seems it only will fetch 
> mail not send it.Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

This mail is sent using (neo)mutt's SMTP support.

At a minimum you must set 'smtp_url' in your muttrc. If you don't 
specify username and password mutt will ask for it interactively.

See 'man muttrc' for more details.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser


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