Re: Auriculares Bluetooth. Funcionan pero sin micrófono

2020-10-14 Thread Camaleón
El 2020-10-14 a las 17:34 -0300, Carlos Gustavo Nuñez escribió:

> Hola como están?, hace un tiempo estoy tratando de hacer funcionar el
> micrófono en unos auriculares bluettoth con mic. Pero no lo consigo hacer
> funcionar el el perfil. Al parecer muchos tienen problemas similares, pero
> no veo una solución al problema.

(...)

Este informe de fallo de Ubuntu te puede servir. No tanto para 
solucionar el problema, que no parece resuelto, aunque el informe 
es extenso, hay varios comentarios, revísalos por si alguno te diera 
alguna idea, sino para entender qué sucede.

Add automatic switching to HSP/HFP from A2DP when a mic is needed 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/508522

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 



Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Susmita/Rajib
-- Received message --
From: Dan Ritter 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:46:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster
internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed
Lap- /Desk- tops?
To: Susmita/Rajib 
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Susmita/Rajib wrote:
... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...

Sir, I apply my common sense: the CPU, memory and ports are at least 3
orders faster than they  the signals received from individual ISPs.

In that case, multiple ports could be used apparently parallelly by
multiplexing between the Ethernet port, the WiFi port, the Bluetooth
port and at least a couple of USB ports, and 'effectively' speed up
internet signals by rearranging packets sequentially by the order the
requests were sent.

So what is essentially required is theoretically a list that keeps
record of time, order and port, of each of the packets requests made,
and rearrange the packets received from all ports according to that
list, to provide the system with a complete file.

So, I am indeed surprised that even with so many gifted individuals in
GNU/Linux/Debian the matter hasn't been rewritten, which should be
relatively easy to achieve, as the OS is completely modular.

Unfortunately, i didn't develop the stack of neural networks necessary
to build up such a program, otherwise, i would have done so myself and
given it to GNU.

In the end, your sense of humour to talk differently is much admired.

Regards,
Rajib



Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Susmita/Rajib
-- Received message --
From: Nicholas Geovanis 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:57:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster
internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed
Lap- /Desk- tops?
To: Susmita/Rajib , Debian Users ML


... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...
>   ... ...  Openwrt is for embedded network equipment. I 
> cant
> verify this yet, but I believe they have completely rewritten the network
> stack.
> So each does their load balancing and proxying in completely different ways
> than you will.
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:21 AM Susmita/Rajib  wrote:
... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...

Yes Sir, it appears then that i have understood the situation better
than i had considered possible. In that case, it really bothers me
that such gifted programmers and developers at Debian/GNU/Linux in
general' weren't inspired by the idea to implement it within the OS,
given that we all have more than one USB port, one BT and one WiFi
channel free most of the time.

Had i the gift, i would surely have written the stack by myself, like
Dr. Torvalds did. But alas!

However, Mr. Andrei Popescu has given me some links and I could use
them in this case.

Regards,
Rajib



Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Susmita/Rajib
-- Recieved message --
From: Andrei POPESCU 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:55:33 +0300
Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster
internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed
Lap- /Desk- tops?
To: Susmita/Rajib 
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org

> On Mi, 14 oct 20, 15:31:14, Susmita/Rajib wrote:
... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...
> Addressing us with such formality is... hilarious :)

Then at least, i could pat myself on my back that i have at least
added some spices and entertainment to our lives for Free.

On a serious note, i consider computing user-group to be visited by
people better gifted than i am So the 'respect' factor comes out of me
automatically.

... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...

> If you wrote in the same manner as above it's possible Mr. Kirszenberg
> thought he is the subject of a joke :)

Well, in this case, i must have approached him in a wrong manner. Then
i should write another email to him in the manner you have suggested.

> Or maybe he is just very busy. In Open Source communities patience is
> much more important than formality.
... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...

Yes, this quality is also perhaps evades me.

... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...
> There is currently no ITP (Intent To Package) filled for dispatch-proxy.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/wnpp
... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...

> You could file an RFP (Request for Package)   ... ... 

Yes, thank you for this advice. i shall proceed to do so. Thank you..

... ... ... ... ... 
even better, create a
> package yourself and ask for a sponsor to upload to Debian.

This is a quality that unfortunately evades me. Minor programs and
scripts i can write. But i am seriously not gifted enough to write
programs. Didn't develop the necessary stack of neural networks that
could enable me to write brilliant programs or rewrite an entire stack
like Dr. Stallman or Dr. Torvalds. Which is why i seek information in
the first place.

May be, i am providing a template for the road forward in this regard.

> https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
> https://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/
... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...

In the end, i thank you for the links provided.
Regards
Rajib



Re: Thunderbird / enigmail

2020-10-14 Thread Ralph Katz

On 10/13/20 9:14 AM, D. R. Evans wrote:

[snip]

I'm wondering if
any enigmail user here has installed the update, and if they have had any
problems with the transition to the new enigmail-less encrypted e-mail system.


On Buster, I have installed the thunderbird update and removed enigmail 
without any issues.  The install notes walk you through the simple process.


Regards,
Ralph



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Auriculares Bluetooth. Funcionan pero sin micrófono

2020-10-14 Thread Carlos Gustavo Nuñez
Hola como están?, hace un tiempo estoy tratando de hacer funcionar el 
micrófono en unos auriculares bluettoth con mic. Pero no lo consigo 
hacer funcionar el el perfil. Al parecer muchos tienen problemas 
similares, pero no veo una solución al problema.


Pareciera que tiene que ver con los perfiles. En mi caso es un Auricular 
Klip Xtreme KHS-640. Con el teléfono funciona adecuadamente.


En blueman lo detecta y se parea, pero solo en el perfil A2DP Sink, si 
intento pasarlo a HSP/HFP, da el siguiente error: Failed to change 
profile to headset_head_unit, no ofrece otros perfiles.


Estoy con Debian testing, Linux 5.8.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.8.10-1 
(2020-09-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux


ii  blueman 2.1.3-2 amd64    Graphical 
bluetooth manager
ii  bluez 5.55-1  amd64    Bluetooth 
tools and daemons
ii  bluez-firmware 1.2-4   all  
Firmware for Bluetooth devices
ii  bluez-obexd 5.55-1  amd64    bluez 
obex daemon
ii  pulseaudio 13.0-5  amd64    
PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-module-bluetooth 13.0-5  
amd64    Bluetooth module for PulseAudio sound server


Dejo la Salida de bluettothctl

[KHS-620]# show
Controller 3C:95:09:6F:05:F2 (public)
    Name: mazinger
    Alias: mazinger
    Class: 0x003c010c
    Powered: yes
    Discoverable: no
    DiscoverableTimeout: 0x
    Pairable: yes
    UUID: Message Notification Se.. (1133--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: A/V Remote Control (110e--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: OBEX Object Push (1105--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Message Access Server (1132--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: IrMC Sync (1104--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: PnP Information (1200--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Vendor specific (5005--1000-8000-0002ee01)
    UUID: Headset (1108--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: A/V Remote Control Target (110c--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Generic Attribute Profile (1801--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Phonebook Access Server (112f--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Audio Sink (110b--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Device Information (180a--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Generic Access Profile (1800--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Headset AG (1112--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Audio Source (110a--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: OBEX File Transfer (1106--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Handsfree (111e--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    Modalias: usb:v1D6Bp0246d0537
    Discovering: yes
    Roles: central
    Roles: peripheral
Advertising Features:
    ActiveInstances: 0x00 (0)
    SupportedInstances: 0x05 (5)
    SupportedIncludes: tx-power
    SupportedIncludes: appearance
    SupportedIncludes: local-name

[KHS-620]# info 53:FD:74:A2:22:CE
Device 53:FD:74:A2:22:CE (public)
    Name: KHS-620
    Alias: KHS-620
    Class: 0x00240404
    Icon: audio-card
    Paired: yes
    Trusted: yes
    Blocked: no
    Connected: yes
    LegacyPairing: no
    UUID: Audio Sink (110b--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: A/V Remote Control Target (110c--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Advanced Audio Distribu.. (110d--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: A/V Remote Control (110e--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Handsfree (111e--1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    ManufacturerData Key: 0x4c4a
    ManufacturerData Value:
  01 00 01 fe 58   X
[KHS-620]#

Les agradesco cualquier ayuda para hacerlo funcionar.
Gracias.

*Carlos Gustavo Nuñez*



Re: needed: a way to eliminate wasted disk space due to unneeded locale files

2020-10-14 Thread Mike McClain
On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 04:46:56PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 10/13/20, L Godioleskky  wrote:
> > App localepurge eliminates some, but far from all of these un-needed files
>
> What's it leaving behind that you would like to see additionally
> purged? If there's not a known tweak, flag, or something for
> localepurge, perhaps your needs could become a reportbug wish list
> item sent to Developers.
>
Try this Cindy,
find / -iname '*zh*'

I get 136 hits after running localepurge and each points to a
directory with lots of other languages.
Be Well,
Mike
--
During the Afghan war the American news reported how many Americans
had died over there. It seems to me that a good newsman would have
also reported the Afghani death count but I never heard one.- MM



Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager

2020-10-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> That feature appears useful in case of a directory with lots of files
> where the first part of the filename is unknown (i.e. one can't guess
> even the general area in the listing where the file might be).

It's also useful when all the files (or at least many of them)
start with the same prefix and you'd rather not have to repeat that
prefix.

Oh, and also when the prefix includes characters which you don't really
know how to type.

And I'm sure there are several other very legitimate use case.


Stefan


PS: Being able to "read" is important, but being able to imagine someone
else's use cases (which I guess is what we call "empathy") is quite
handy too.



Re: Please be respectful

2020-10-14 Thread Christoph K.
Hello Harry,

thanks for your answer.

On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 02:12:45 -0700
Weaver wrote :

> Being polite is a standard that has to apply to all.

Agreed.


> I consider the original post not to be.

I do believe it could have been "more considerate",
but it didn't "cross my line", which your post did.
That's why I took the time to write the "please be respectful" email.

My main point of criticism is that independently of the original post,
it's a bad idea to escalate the situation by being sarcastic.
I prefer to directly confront the poster with the problem (as I'm doing
in this case) and ask for a different communication style.


> To me I see an outstanding example of laziness ...

I guess that's where the main clash is.

Sometimes I find myself thinking the same way about what other people do.

But after some experiences of being nasty with other people, ruining
relationships for almost nothing, I've come to the conclusion that "Assume
good faith" as mentioned in the Debian Code of Conduct is a much better
strategy to deal with issues of that kind.

In many cases I've often found that my initial judgement (he's lazy,
nobody needs that feature, etc.) was wrong and it was a good idea not to
express my opinion.
In other cases I find myself to be right. Usually there's no need to
point to that. People expose their faults (lazyness, etc.) themselves -
sooner or later.
Sometimes I support them doing so with polite questions ;-)

Best regards,
Christoph



Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
dispatch-proxy only works with HTTP and Socks. Any other protocol will be
untouched at its layer. Openwrt is for embedded network equipment. I cant
verify this yet, but I believe they have completely rewritten the network
stack.
So each does their load balancing and proxying in completely different ways
than you will.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:21 AM Susmita/Rajib  wrote:

> -- Received message --
> From: Dan Ritter
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:17:25 -0400
> Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster
> internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed
> Lap- /Desk- tops?
> To: Susmita/Rajib 
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Susmita/Rajib wrote:
> >
> ... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]
>  ... ...
>
> Packets have the following characteristics, at a minimum:
>
> IP of the sender
> port number of the sending process
> IP of the destination
> port number of the destination
>
> When a network interface connects to a network, it has an IP
> address assigned to it. (This can be static or dynamic; it does
> not matter here.) The network will only send packets that are
> destined for that IP address.
>
> An interface connecting to network A gets an address from
> network A; an interface on network B has an address from network
> B.
>
> When your computer sends out a request, it can pick either
> network A or network B, but the sender IP will always match the
> network that it picks, and so the answer will come in on the
> same network.
>
> You have some options:
>
> - you can pick one network as primary and the other as
>   secondary, and stop using the primary if it fails.
>
> - you can assign some of your traffic to each network, but
>   answers will come back over the same network and you do not
>   get an increase in bandwidth for any given session.
>
> - you might be able to set up a proxy on a well-connected
>   machine somewhere, and send all your traffic via that proxy,
>   which understands that there are two paths back to you.
>   However, those two paths are likely to be of different
>   latencies, and you will see many exciting problems including
>   out-of-order packets, dropped packets, and repeated packets.
>
> Does this help?
>
> -dsr-
>
>
> Wow! Unbelievable, Dr. Ritter, but I understood your line of reasoning.
>
> Okay, but then some questions arise:
> (1)  How does "openwrt (https://openwrt.org/) able to achieve a
> similar objective? If my original Debian Forums thread and posts have
> been perused.
>
> (2)  Again, how dispatch-proxy is able to achieve a similar
> objective? My earlier post was here:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/10/msg00118.html
> Unfortunately, I received no reply for the post. Very well. Let us
> continue to keep it dead, but use the information posted there.
>
> Your post provides me an opportunity to clear some of my doubts, which
> are endless. Etenally.
>
> I must keep my questions very focussed so that I don't irritate or lose
> you.
> In general, cognitive elites shall choose to ignore queries posted by
> nincompoops such as I.
>
> So, I thank you for choosing to reply to my query.
>
> Regards,
> Rajib
>
>


Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 14 oct 20, 15:31:14, Susmita/Rajib wrote:
> To,
> The Team User,
> debian-user@lists.debian.org,
> Debian.org
> 
> My dear illustrious Team User Leaders,
> 
> Good afternoon, leaders.

Hello,

The debian-user list is just a mailing list subscribed by users of 
Debian (such as yourself). While there are some Debian Developers 
subscribed (thanks!) most of us are just regular users, with no 
particular position in the Debian community.

Communication style on Debian channels is rather informal (i.e. on first 
name basis, as you would address a work colleague, not a superior).

Addressing us with such formality is... hilarious :)
 
> My post at the Debian Forums may please be perused here:
> Faster internet access by parallelly using multiple ISPs
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5=147081#p727593
> 
> There's a software named DISPATCH-PROXY that ostensively helps in such
> opportunity:
> https://github.com/alexkirsz/dispatch-proxy#readme
> 
> Has any of my illustrious team leaders used this software?
> 
> I have a query:
> In debian there are many a nodejs package. If someone using Debian has
> used this software with nodejs package, could i be helped please?
> 
> I tried to reach by emailing the developer Dr. Alexandre Kirszenberg,
> but haven't been able to hear from him yet.

If you wrote in the same manner as above it's possible Mr. Kirszenberg 
thought he is the subject of a joke :)

Or maybe he is just very busy. In Open Source communities patience is 
much more important than formality.

> Are Debian developers planning on incorporating this program within
> the DebianOS? Or any other software addressing this niche?

There is currently no ITP (Intent To Package) filled for dispatch-proxy.  

https://bugs.debian.org/wnpp

You could file an RFP (Request for Package) or, even better, create a 
package yourself and ask for a sponsor to upload to Debian.

https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
https://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser


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Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Susmita/Rajib wrote: 
> -- Received message --
> Wow! Unbelievable, Dr. Ritter, but I understood your line of reasoning.

I don't think my family has a Dr. Ritter in it, although several
of my cousins have doctorates (medical, ceramic engineering,
physics...)

> Okay, but then some questions arise:
> (1)  How does "openwrt (https://openwrt.org/) able to achieve a
> similar objective? If my original Debian Forums thread and posts have
> been perused.


Reading mwan3: Debian does it the same way, as will any other
Linux. You can connect to multiple networks, route as
appropriate, and even try outbound load balancing -- but it will
fail in the same ways on Debian as it will on OpenWRT.


> (2)  Again, how dispatch-proxy is able to achieve a similar
> objective? My earlier post was here:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/10/msg00118.html

It can't. It, too, will be plagued by the inability to force
inbound traffic to come to a particular interface, drop packets,
receive packets out of order, and so forth.

-- 
https://randomstring.org/~dsr/eula.html is hereby incorporated by reference.
there is no justice, there is just us.



Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Susmita/Rajib
-- Received message --
From: Dan Ritter
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:17:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster
internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed
Lap- /Desk- tops?
To: Susmita/Rajib 
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Susmita/Rajib wrote:
>
... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...

Packets have the following characteristics, at a minimum:

IP of the sender
port number of the sending process
IP of the destination
port number of the destination

When a network interface connects to a network, it has an IP
address assigned to it. (This can be static or dynamic; it does
not matter here.) The network will only send packets that are
destined for that IP address.

An interface connecting to network A gets an address from
network A; an interface on network B has an address from network
B.

When your computer sends out a request, it can pick either
network A or network B, but the sender IP will always match the
network that it picks, and so the answer will come in on the
same network.

You have some options:

- you can pick one network as primary and the other as
  secondary, and stop using the primary if it fails.

- you can assign some of your traffic to each network, but
  answers will come back over the same network and you do not
  get an increase in bandwidth for any given session.

- you might be able to set up a proxy on a well-connected
  machine somewhere, and send all your traffic via that proxy,
  which understands that there are two paths back to you.
  However, those two paths are likely to be of different
  latencies, and you will see many exciting problems including
  out-of-order packets, dropped packets, and repeated packets.

Does this help?

-dsr-


Wow! Unbelievable, Dr. Ritter, but I understood your line of reasoning.

Okay, but then some questions arise:
(1)  How does "openwrt (https://openwrt.org/) able to achieve a
similar objective? If my original Debian Forums thread and posts have
been perused.

(2)  Again, how dispatch-proxy is able to achieve a similar
objective? My earlier post was here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/10/msg00118.html
Unfortunately, I received no reply for the post. Very well. Let us
continue to keep it dead, but use the information posted there.

Your post provides me an opportunity to clear some of my doubts, which
are endless. Etenally.

I must keep my questions very focussed so that I don't irritate or lose you.
In general, cognitive elites shall choose to ignore queries posted by
nincompoops such as I.

So, I thank you for choosing to reply to my query.

Regards,
Rajib



Re: gestionnaire de fenêtres X11 pour grands écrans pour Debian

2020-10-14 Thread f6k
Bonjour,

On 2020-10-14 11:27:55 Wed, benoit wrote:
> Voici le code source, j'ai pas inséré de licence libre en entête du code,mais
> ça va de soit :
> 
> [4]http://enesadju.be/recettes/code/python/volume.html

Un peu HS mais je me permets. Je te conseille de mettre effectivement
au moins quelques mots en en-tête si cela te tient à coeur parce que,
malheureusement, la licence libre ne va pas de soi. Si le droit belge
ressemble sur ce point au droit français (ce dont je ne doute pas), par
défaut ce code tombe sous le joug du droit commun du droit d'auteur
belge --- et n'est donc, par principe, pas libre.

Sinon, c'est sympathique le combo Terminator/zsh et gRun, merci pour
l'idée :)

Librement,

-f6k

-- 
~{,_,"> indignus LabRat - ftp://shl.huld.re



Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Susmita/Rajib wrote: 
> 
> I am surprised at your revelations. I have been trying to have a
> breakthrough, but have been failing.
> 
> My need is a little divergant from NIC teaming  from what little I
> understood after reading on the topic, after your inputs:
> 
> We have multiple USB ports in our laptops/dektops, and smartphones
> with USB ports and opportunity for USB tethering and internet access
> from the smartphone's mobile Network provider using SIM cards.
> 
> I wish to use two ISPs, i.e., two snartphones in USB teethering, and
> combine internet bandwidth from each of the two simultaneously.
> 
> I hope that I have been able to explain myself in my post.

Packets have the following characteristics, at a minimum:

IP of the sender
port number of the sending process
IP of the destination
port number of the destination 

When a network interface connects to a network, it has an IP
address assigned to it. (This can be static or dynamic; it does
not matter here.) The network will only send packets that are
destined for that IP address.

An interface connecting to network A gets an address from
network A; an interface on network B has an address from network
B.

When your computer sends out a request, it can pick either
network A or network B, but the sender IP will always match the
network that it picks, and so the answer will come in on the
same network.

You have some options:

- you can pick one network as primary and the other as
  secondary, and stop using the primary if it fails.

- you can assign some of your traffic to each network, but
  answers will come back over the same network and you do not
  get an increase in bandwidth for any given session.

- you might be able to set up a proxy on a well-connected
  machine somewhere, and send all your traffic via that proxy,
  which understands that there are two paths back to you.
  However, those two paths are likely to be of different
  latencies, and you will see many exciting problems including
  out-of-order packets, dropped packets, and repeated packets.

Does this help?

-dsr-



Re: gestionnaire de fenêtres X11 pour grands écrans pour Debian

2020-10-14 Thread benoit
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
Le mercredi 14 octobre 2020 01:41, f6k  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 01:55:13PM +0200, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
>
> > On 10/13/20 9:44 AM, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
>
---8<---
>
> J'avoue ne pas comprendre clairement ce point. Taper des commandes avec
> la prise en charge du shell zsh, c'est utiliser un terminal non ? Il
> existe des quake-like console (qui "sorte" du haut de l'écran et se
> rétracte à volonté, donc facilement accessible et qui ne prenne
> finalement pas de place), si ça peut aller dans ton sens.
>

Oui le paquet : tilda
émulateur de terminal GTK+ déroulant, pour Linux et Unix

https://packages.debian.org/buster/tilda

C'est génial, avec
$SHELL
/bin/zsh

bien sûr ! ;-)

--
Benoit



Re: Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Susmita/Rajib
-- Received message --
From: Nicholas Geovanis 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:22:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Has Debian developers contemplated means of faster
internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed
Lap- /Desk- tops
To: Susmita/Rajib , Debian Users ML


Debian has supported multiple concurrent network cards and interfaces for a
very long time. You could cable each to a separate ISP if you wish. Or all
to the same if you have the bandwidth. This is sometimes called NIC teaming.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 4:48 AM Susmita/Rajib  wrote:

> To,
... ... [snipped]   ... ... [snipped]   
... ...



Dear Dr. Geovanis,
Nicholas Geovanis ,

I am surprised at your revelations. I have been trying to have a
breakthrough, but have been failing.

My need is a little divergant from NIC teaming  from what little I
understood after reading on the topic, after your inputs:

We have multiple USB ports in our laptops/dektops, and smartphones
with USB ports and opportunity for USB tethering and internet access
from the smartphone's mobile Network provider using SIM cards.

I wish to use two ISPs, i.e., two snartphones in USB teethering, and
combine internet bandwidth from each of the two simultaneously.

I hope that I have been able to explain myself in my post.

Regards,
Rajib Bandopadhyay
A Debian and Knoppix user

P.S.::
BTW, because of the typo "has" I have requested the List
Moderator/administrator to delete the subject thread and keep the post corrected
with "have".



Re: gestionnaire de fenêtres X11 pour grands écrans pour Debian

2020-10-14 Thread benoit
Le mardi 13 octobre 2020 06:11, Basile Starynkevitch  
a écrit :

> Bonjour la liste Debian French,

Bonjour à toi humain abonné à la liste !;-)

> J'utilise Linux depuis 1993 et préfère la ligne de commandes. J'ai deux grand 
> écrans sous Debian/Sid. La commande xdpyinfo | grep -i -4 screen donne 
> notamment
>
>> screen #0:
>>   dimensions:5360x1440 pixels (1418x381 millimeters)
>
> Je cherche un gestionnaire de fenêtres X11 (X11 window manager) - ou 
> probablement une configuration d'un tel gestionnaire de fenêtres (par exemple 
> icewm, fvwm, ) qui:

Openbox :
https://packages.debian.org/buster/openbox

> 1. démarre aisément une commande que je tape, si possible via zsh et la 
> complétion associée.

Le couple Terminator/zsh et grun :

https://packages.debian.org/buster/terminator

https://packages.debian.org/buster/grun

> 2. gère les touches volume son de mon clavier Corsair Gaming K66 (AZERTY)

Openbox n'a pas ça et je n'ai pas trouvé de petite appli indépendante de 
l’environnement de bureau, du coup j'en ai développé une vite fait en python, 
pyalsaaudio et PyQt.
Voici le code source, j'ai pas inséré de licence libre en entête du code,mais 
ça va de soit :
http://enesadju.be/recettes/code/python/volume.html
Les barbus de python pas frapper hein, c'est un truc que j'ai fait en vitesse 
et ça me suffit.
Et comme OpenBox n'a pas non plus de mini appli pour gérer le rétroéclairage 
sous X11, tant qu'a réutiliser le code (développé avec PyQt et subprocess
qui appelle xrandr):
http://enesadju.be/recettes/code/python/brightness.html
Au fait les barbus de python, j'ai pas trouvé de librairie python pour agir 
directement sur le rétroéclairage sous X11, du coup j'utilise subprocess pour 
appeler la commande xrandr... Mais c'est du bricolage, je suis preneur pour une 
méthode plus élégante en python.Merc

> 3. limite dans tous les cas la taille maximale des fenêtres X11 à 3072x1024 
> pixels.

Dans OpenBox tu peux redimensionner les fenêtres par raccourci clavier ex 
:Meta-Alt flèche bas.



0
-0
50%
50%


Tu peux ainsi composer des raccourcis clavier pour positionner une fenêtre en 
haut, bas, gauche, droite, à la taille voulue (en % de résolution d'écran).

> 4. démarre quelques logiciels au click droit menu (lxterminal, firefox, 
> thunderbird)

Voici comment ajouter un item dans le menu clic droit (ou la touche menu du 
clavier) d'OpenBox :



x-terminal-emulator



Ici je lance x-terminal-emulator qui est une alternative (définit dans 
/etc/alternatives/) pour lancer terminator.

> Je n'ai généralement pas besoin d'icônes desktop sur mon bureau. Je prefère 
> très largement la ligne de commande.

Ben oui un bureau c'est fait pour afficher des fenêtres. S'il faut les réduire 
ou les fermer pour lancer une appli ou accéder à un répertoire c'est pas très 
ergonomique...
Comme gestionnaire de fichier j'utilise spacefm.
https://packages.debian.org/buster/spacefm
Super configurable, c'est un orthodox file manager, comme mc..

> Que me conseillez vous?

OpenBox ! ;-)

--
Benoit

Re: Has Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops

2020-10-14 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Debian has supported multiple concurrent network cards and interfaces for a
very long time. You could cable each to a separate ISP if you wish. Or all
to the same if you have the bandwidth. This is sometimes called NIC teaming.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 4:48 AM Susmita/Rajib  wrote:

> To,
> The Team User,
> debian-user@lists.debian.org,
> Debian.org
>
> My dear illustrious Team User Leaders,
>
> Good afternoon, leaders.
>
> My post at the Debian Forums may please be perused here:
> Faster internet access by parallelly using multiple ISPs
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5=147081#p727593
>
> There's a software named DISPATCH-PROXY that ostensively helps in such
> opportunity:
> https://github.com/alexkirsz/dispatch-proxy#readme
>
> Has any of my illustrious team leaders used this software?
>
> I have a query:
> In debian there are many a nodejs package. If someone using Debian has
> used this software with nodejs package, could i be helped please?
>
> I tried to reach by emailing the developer Dr. Alexandre Kirszenberg,
> but haven't been able to hear from him yet.
>
> Are Debian developers planning on incorporating this program within
> the DebianOS? Or any other software addressing this niche?
>
> Could anyone help please?
>
> Regards,
> Rajib Bandopadhyay
> A dedicated Debian and Knoppix user
>
>


Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager

2020-10-14 Thread kaye n
>
>
> > > I realize my question may be an eye-roller for some people, but
> > >
> > > "as I learnt to read years ago,"
> > >
> > > is the type of answer that makes non-Linux users think that we're a
> > > bunch of elitist snob.
> >
> > No, it doesn't.
> > It's appropriate sarcasm.
> > A quick scroll and a basic knowledge of the alphabet is all that's
> > required to locate any file/directory in even a complex listing.
>
> That feature appears useful in case of a directory with lots of files
> where the first part of the filename is unknown (i.e. one can't guess
> even the general area in the listing where the file might be).
>

That's exactly my point. Thank you Andrei. You've been helpful since I
started using Debian.


Re: how to open mht file

2020-10-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Long Wind wrote: 
> i save web page in android phone, it uses mht formathow to open it in 
> debian?below is part of mht file:


That's an mail header on top of a MIME multipart container. 

Tools that can work on this include

reformime (from maildrop)
ripmime 
mimeview (from mailutils)

-dsr-



Re: Please be respectful

2020-10-14 Thread Thomas Pircher
Weaver wrote:
> To me I see an outstanding example of laziness from somebody who
> obviously needs no consideration in the accessibility department.

Hi Harry,

I really hope you are in a minority with this opinion, and hopefully,
re-reading the original post you might come to a different conclusion
about the OP's request.

> Scrolling an alphabetically arranged file system doesn't even qualify as
> trivial.

The OP asked for a suggestion of a file browser with a certain feature.
The feature is to filter/limit the displayed files, roughly equivalent
to a shell command like `ls *j*`. I do this type of things all the time.
This is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, especially when dealing with
lots of files, and when you don't know the full name of a file.

> The use of find and/or locate will dig up anything, no matter how deeply
> hidden in a plethora of directories.

That is true, find and locate are very powerful tools, and worth
learning. However, they are specialized tools which need some form of
in-depth knowledge, and as such, they not always the first choice in
every situation for every user.

Cheers,
Thomas



Have Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops?

2020-10-14 Thread Susmita/Rajib
To,
The Team User,
debian-user@lists.debian.org,
Debian.org

My dear illustrious Team User Leaders,

Good afternoon, leaders.

My post at the Debian Forums may please be perused here:
Faster internet access by parallelly using multiple ISPs
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5=147081#p727593

There's a software named DISPATCH-PROXY that ostensively helps in such
opportunity:
https://github.com/alexkirsz/dispatch-proxy#readme

Has any of my illustrious team leaders used this software?

I have a query:
In debian there are many a nodejs package. If someone using Debian has
used this software with nodejs package, could i be helped please?

I tried to reach by emailing the developer Dr. Alexandre Kirszenberg,
but haven't been able to hear from him yet.

Are Debian developers planning on incorporating this program within
the DebianOS? Or any other software addressing this niche?

Could anyone help please?

Regards,
Rajib Bandopadhyay
A dedicated Debian and Knoppix user



Has Debian developers contemplated means of faster internet access, using in parallel multiple ISPs from Debian installed Lap- /Desk- tops

2020-10-14 Thread Susmita/Rajib
To,
The Team User,
debian-user@lists.debian.org,
Debian.org

My dear illustrious Team User Leaders,

Good afternoon, leaders.

My post at the Debian Forums may please be perused here:
Faster internet access by parallelly using multiple ISPs
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5=147081#p727593

There's a software named DISPATCH-PROXY that ostensively helps in such
opportunity:
https://github.com/alexkirsz/dispatch-proxy#readme

Has any of my illustrious team leaders used this software?

I have a query:
In debian there are many a nodejs package. If someone using Debian has
used this software with nodejs package, could i be helped please?

I tried to reach by emailing the developer Dr. Alexandre Kirszenberg,
but haven't been able to hear from him yet.

Are Debian developers planning on incorporating this program within
the DebianOS? Or any other software addressing this niche?

Could anyone help please?

Regards,
Rajib Bandopadhyay
A dedicated Debian and Knoppix user



Re: Please be respectful

2020-10-14 Thread Weaver
On 14-10-2020 18:30, Christoph K. wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700
> Weaver wrote :
> 
>> > "as I learnt to read years ago,"
>> It's appropriate sarcasm.
> 
> Disagreed.
> It's simply disrespectful.
> 
> 
>> For those who require spoon feeding:
> 
> As is this comment, too.
> 
> 
> Sarcasm can be fun sometimes, but I believe it's no appropriate way to
> communicate on debian mailing lists. It can lead to misunderstandings and
> people being hurt, apart from making a bad impressions on others reading
> this list.
> 
> Please re-read the Debian Code of Conduct and consider being more polite:
> https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct

Being polite is a standard that has to apply to all.
I consider the original post not to be.
To me I see an outstanding example of laziness from somebody who
obviously needs no consideration in the accessibility department.
Scrolling an alphabetically arranged file system doesn't even qualify as
trivial.
It can be accomplished as quickly as you can move your hand.
The use of find and/or locate will dig up anything, no matter how deeply
hidden in a plethora of directories.
If that is insufficient and the standard has to be established in an
instance where an iron lung is in use, direct a bug report to the
appropriate quarter, which I have already supplied, where they can put
it at the far end of a list behind things that really need doing.
Kind regards,

Harry. 

-- 
`Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful'.

— Lucius Annæus Seneca.

Terrorism, the new religion.

Registered Linux User: 554515



how to open mht file

2020-10-14 Thread Long Wind
i save web page in android phone, it uses mht formathow to open it in 
debian?below is part of mht file:

From: 
Snapshot-Content-Location: http://museums.cnd.org/CR/ZK19/cr989.gb.html
Subject: 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 04:26:30 -
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/related;
type="text/html";

boundary="MultipartBoundary--zR35Q5zUZO9YOsOWT8wRGQ4cPf0TOgte9cWxgCvKsD"


--MultipartBoundary--zR35Q5zUZO9YOsOWT8wRGQ4cPf0TOgte9cWxgCvKsD
Content-Type: text/html
Content-ID: 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Location: http://museums.cnd.org/CR/ZK19/cr989.gb.html

http://museums.cnd.org/im=
ages/hxwz2.gif">

=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


Re: problemas con dd

2020-10-14 Thread Galvatorix Torixgalva
Holas,

yo intentaria esto: usar alguna distribucion tipo LiveCD que contenga
gparted, para comprobar que el dispositivo fisicamente esta bien, y
sobretodo ver si tiene algo no esperado dentro, y luego ver si puedes usar
algun programa de ese LiveCD para grabar el archivo.

Tambien puedes usar distintos LiveCD, uno para comprobar y otro para grabar.

Un saludo


Please be respectful (was: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager)

2020-10-14 Thread Christoph K.
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700
Weaver wrote :

> > "as I learnt to read years ago,"
> It's appropriate sarcasm.

Disagreed.
It's simply disrespectful.


> For those who require spoon feeding:

As is this comment, too.


Sarcasm can be fun sometimes, but I believe it's no appropriate way to
communicate on debian mailing lists. It can lead to misunderstandings and
people being hurt, apart from making a bad impressions on others reading
this list.

Please re-read the Debian Code of Conduct and consider being more polite:
https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct

Best regards,
Christoph



Re: Linux not seeing all SATA drives

2020-10-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 12 oct 20, 21:19:39, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> I have 3 SATA drives on my system. I replaced all my red cables with new
> black cables. The BIOS sees all of them but when linux finishes booting it
> only sees two of them. Do I have to do something to linux so it sees the
> third drive?
> 
> FYI, I have the system disk in sata-1, the drive on sata2 is not seen, but
> the drive on sata3 is seen and in use. The CD/DVD drive is on sata6 and is
> also seen.

Do you have a good enough power source? For testing purposes you could 
try removing any other component that is not strictly needed to start 
the system.

If you connect each drive individually, does Linux detect them?

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser


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Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager

2020-10-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 13 oct 20, 23:06:55, Weaver wrote:
> On 14-10-2020 14:21, kaye n wrote:
> > 
> > I realize my question may be an eye-roller for some people, but 
> > 
> > "as I learnt to read years ago,"
> > 
> > is the type of answer that makes non-Linux users think that we're a
> > bunch of elitist snob.
> 
> No, it doesn't.
> It's appropriate sarcasm.
> A quick scroll and a basic knowledge of the alphabet is all that's
> required to locate any file/directory in even a complex listing.

That feature appears useful in case of a directory with lots of files 
where the first part of the filename is unknown (i.e. one can't guess 
even the general area in the listing where the file might be).

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager

2020-10-14 Thread riveravaldez
On 10/14/20, kaye n  wrote:
>>
>> > Let's say there are three files with the names -
>> > apple-pie
>> > banana-split
>> > orange-juice
>> >
>> > On the file manager window, I would type the letter o and the file
>> > 'orange-juice' would be selected.  However, I would also want the
>> > ability to select that file by typing j (for juice).
>> >
>> > This is possible with another file manager, but not with Thunar as far
>> > as I can tell.
>> > Am I wrong?  What other file managers would you recommend for my
>> > Debian system that has that feature?

Don't know if you're in Stable, OldStable, Testing, etc., but at least
the Testing version of 'pcmanfm-qt' has that feature, you can try it.
Maybe also 'nautilus', but I'm not sure and can't check it now.

> I realize my question may be an eye-roller for some people, but
>
> "as I learnt to read years ago,"
>
> is the type of answer that makes non-Linux users think that we're a bunch
> of elitist snob.

Bad answer, certainly.

> Thanks anyway

Hope this options serve your purpose.

Best regards.



Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager

2020-10-14 Thread Weaver
On 14-10-2020 14:21, kaye n wrote:
>>> Let's say there are three files with the names -
>>> apple-pie
>>> banana-split
>>> orange-juice
>>>
>>> On the file manager window, I would type the letter o and the file
>>> 'orange-juice' would be selected.  However, I would also want the
>>> ability to select that file by typing j (for juice).
>>>
>>> This is possible with another file manager, but not with Thunar as
>> far
>>> as I can tell.
>>> Am I wrong?  What other file managers would you recommend for my
>>> Debian system that has that feature?
>>
>> I'd never need that feature for myself, as I learnt to read years
>> ago,
> 
> I realize my question may be an eye-roller for some people, but 
> 
> "as I learnt to read years ago,"
> 
> is the type of answer that makes non-Linux users think that we're a
> bunch of elitist snob.

No, it doesn't.
It's appropriate sarcasm.
A quick scroll and a basic knowledge of the alphabet is all that's
required to locate any file/directory in even a complex listing.
And no new user is involved, that statement is right in the post. so the
straw-man doesn't apply.
For those who require spoon feeding:

https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/bugs

> Thanks anyway

No problem!

-- 
`Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful'.

— Lucius Annæus Seneca.

Terrorism, the new religion.

Registered Linux User: 554515