Re: combined cpu frequency stats with 2 policies in place
On Sb, 01 mai 21, 14:41:07, Tuxo wrote: > Hi list > > My octa core cpu does offer 2 frequency governors: > > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/affected_cpus > 0 1 2 3 > > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy4/affected_cpus > 4 5 6 7 > > cpufreq-info --stats --human does only display policy 0 as summary, if I > want to see policy4 summary I need to ask for it with: > > cpufreq-info --stats --human --cpu 4 > > Adding more than one --cpu argument is not allowed. Indeed, the man page is pretty specific about that. > How can I combine both of them or is this not possible? Development of cpufrequtils seems to have stopped (it's the same version since at least jessie, though I didn't look at upstream). Maybe you should look for other tools? If you only need to monitor the frequencies and load per core s-tui is a nice interactive tool. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly
On Sb, 01 mai 21, 03:17:39, Weaver wrote: > > `This is a fairly busy mailing list' - Oh no, it isn't! > It used to be. > I can recall days when I'd get 300 mails or more, but that was when the > attitude was it was a list for Debian users, and not just a list for > Debian issues. > At times, there would be 70% of threads on topic, while the rest were > wildly off, but there's one aspect everybody seems to have forgotten: > conversation/communication builds community. > And this list is somewhat dry on that quality these days. > I think we can attribute the list drying up like a river in drought to > that. Though personally I enjoy the occasional off-topic discussion I also recall the complaints from other subscribers about the (wildly!) off-topic mega-threads. > Perhaps the prissy and politically correct simply don't have it right? > Cheers! In my opinion off-topic discussions are orthogonal to that. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: When to reboot after dist-upgrade?
On Sun, May 2, 2021, 9:42 PM riveravaldez wrote: > Hi, sorry if this is not the place to ask (and in that case please > point me in the proper direction). > > I'm trying to distinguish when a system reboot is an absolute need > and when it is absolutely safe to keep the system running/working > after a `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`, once > I have already performed a complete restart of all needed services > through `sudo needrestart' options in Debian testing. > In general, if the Kernel is updated, plan to Restart. Usually, dist-upgrade is required, when Version Numbers change, requiring addition of new packages. The Linux Kernel is a common (but not the only) reason for this. Also beware, because Debian occasionally will update the Kernel without updating the Version Number. So it is possible that a Restart is required, without a dist-upgrade. Good luck! Kenneth Parker > So, in a situation like this: > > $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > Reading package list ... Done > Creating dependency tree ... Done > Reading status information ... Done > Calculating the update ... Done > The following packages have been withheld: >imagemagick inkscape libc-bin libc6 libc6-dbg libcrypt1 > libpoppler-glib8 local openssh-client openssh-server > openssh-sftp-server ssh > 0 updated, 0 new will be installed, 0 to remove, and 12 not updated. > > $ sudo needrestart > Scanning processes... > Scanning processor microcode... > Scanning linux images... > > Running kernel seems to be up-to-date. > > Failed to check for processor microcode upgrades. > > No services need to be restarted. > > No containers need to be restarted. > > No user sessions are running outdated binaries. > > $ sudo checkrestart > lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs > Output information may be incomplete. > Found 6 processes using old versions of upgraded files > (1 distinct program) > (0 distinct packages) > No packages seem to need to be restarted. > (please read checkrestart(8)) > > , would be perfectly safe and right to keep the system running or on > the contrary should I perform a (warm/cold?) reboot to be safe? > > Thanks a lot in advance for any hint or info. > > Kind regards. > > PS: `apt-get dist-upgrade` output is translated to English..., system is > in Spanish and I keep not-remembering how to force console output > to English, sorry... > >
Re: When to reboot after dist-upgrade?
On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 11:42, riveravaldez wrote: > PS: `apt-get dist-upgrade` output is translated to English Please don't do this, because it introduces unreliable and unreproducible communication and wastes your time. What helps everyone is to share the reproducible *copy/paste* output. > system is > in Spanish and I keep not-remembering how to force console output > to English If you can't remember then please do an internet search before posting, to find the way. For example: https://askubuntu.com/questions/264283/switch-command-output-language-from-native-language-to-english The easiest way for a single command is: LC_ALL=C your command here If you want to change the terminal session before running multiple commands: LC_ALL=C ; export LC_ALL
When to reboot after dist-upgrade?
Hi, sorry if this is not the place to ask (and in that case please point me in the proper direction). I'm trying to distinguish when a system reboot is an absolute need and when it is absolutely safe to keep the system running/working after a `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`, once I have already performed a complete restart of all needed services through `sudo needrestart' options in Debian testing. So, in a situation like this: $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package list ... Done Creating dependency tree ... Done Reading status information ... Done Calculating the update ... Done The following packages have been withheld: imagemagick inkscape libc-bin libc6 libc6-dbg libcrypt1 libpoppler-glib8 local openssh-client openssh-server openssh-sftp-server ssh 0 updated, 0 new will be installed, 0 to remove, and 12 not updated. $ sudo needrestart Scanning processes... Scanning processor microcode... Scanning linux images... Running kernel seems to be up-to-date. Failed to check for processor microcode upgrades. No services need to be restarted. No containers need to be restarted. No user sessions are running outdated binaries. $ sudo checkrestart lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs Output information may be incomplete. Found 6 processes using old versions of upgraded files (1 distinct program) (0 distinct packages) No packages seem to need to be restarted. (please read checkrestart(8)) , would be perfectly safe and right to keep the system running or on the contrary should I perform a (warm/cold?) reboot to be safe? Thanks a lot in advance for any hint or info. Kind regards. PS: `apt-get dist-upgrade` output is translated to English..., system is in Spanish and I keep not-remembering how to force console output to English, sorry...
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On 2021-05-01 at 09:28 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Some state their brainwaves are being influenced by whatever (video, > tv, wireless) It could be true, but there is no evidence and the > probability of this being true is very low. Looks like the goal of every advertisement to me.
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
On Sonntag, 2. Mai 2021 13:29:47 -04 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 02/05/2021 à 16:43, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 04:38:21PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > >> From what I understand (If I understand correctly), your processor > >> is a>> > >> powerpc64 Big Indian, not a powerpc64 Little Indian [...] > > > > That's "Endian", not "Indian". > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness > > Thank you Greg, but I promise you, Your Honor, I'm not guilty, for the > life of me ;-) > > In this case, I did know the concept and its correct spelling but: > - being absent-minded by nature > - thinking in english (I have almost wrote "inglish") > - but unconsciously verifying spelling in french (my native language) > while writing > - and being guilty of not re-reading myself before posting > > You have there a perfect recipe for a disaster ;-) That is cute and it reminds me of Peter Sellers in "The Party" ... talking of little Indians and disasters ...
Re: Google vs. DDG
deloptes [2021-05-02 17:44:42] wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> For these kinds of searches, I tend to go to Wikipedia first. >> One of the reasons is that I can do that via the Wikipedia app which is >> much more snappy than my browser on my smartphone. >> Another is that I have much more confidence in the Wikimedia foundation >> when it comes to treating me as a product. > What confidence? Anonymous people correcting each other posts. You can't > trust scientists anymore not to speak of Wikipedia Please re-read what I wrote. I did not talk about confidence in the contents. Stefan
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
Le 02/05/2021 à 19:29, didier gaumet a écrit : (I have almost wrote "inglish") sorry : "written" There: absent-minded ;-)
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
Le 02/05/2021 à 16:43, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 04:38:21PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: From what I understand (If I understand correctly), your processor is a powerpc64 Big Indian, not a powerpc64 Little Indian [...] That's "Endian", not "Indian". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness Thank you Greg, but I promise you, Your Honor, I'm not guilty, for the life of me ;-) In this case, I did know the concept and its correct spelling but: - being absent-minded by nature - thinking in english (I have almost wrote "inglish") - but unconsciously verifying spelling in french (my native language) while writing - and being guilty of not re-reading myself before posting You have there a perfect recipe for a disaster ;-)
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
On Sun, May 2, 2021, 11:51 AM Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On Sun May 2 08:17:13 2021 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 04:38:21PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > > > >> From what I understand (If I understand correctly), your processor > >> is a powerpc64 Big Indian, not a powerpc64 Little Indian [...] > > > > That's "Endian", not "Indian". > > 8080 One little, > 8085 Two little, > 8086 Three little-endians > 8088 Four little, > 80186Five little, > 80286Six little-endians > 80386Seven little, > 80386SX Eight little, > 80486Nine little-endians > Pentium DIVIDE ERROR > +1 Kenneth Parker >
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 05:54:05PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > As others say in this thread, you have to use your brain a bit more > > to be happy with DDG. > > > > Don't try to insult. Me? How so? > If you speak/use 1-2 languages it might be OK Always so competitive? > > To me, honestly, this is a feature, not a bug. > > I don't care Nor do I. I think this conversation has reached a dead point. We are boring to all the rest. I apologise and bow out. This thread ended for me. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > As others say in this thread, you have to use your brain a bit more > to be happy with DDG. > Don't try to insult. If you speak/use 1-2 languages it might be OK > To me, honestly, this is a feature, not a bug. > I don't care - it does not delivery good search results, does it? >> I'm sorry guys, but DDG is another joke. > > I don't know whether that wants to sound cool or what. No, it wants to sound exactly as it was meant - a joke that you want to convince me is useful. Well some kind of useful it is, but not much. To sum up: neither Google nor DDG are satisfactory for different reasons. Google for their policy of spying on you and DDG for the lack of better algorithms. Meanwhile I search in both :D In the past 5-6 years things changed a lot. Censorship, algorithm modifications, fake news flooding the web from left and right. I don't know if it was D. Trump the reason for that, but the result is here to stay with us. There is too much BS on the internet already. I've been thinking starting over fresh might be the best choice.
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
On Sun May 2 08:17:13 2021 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 04:38:21PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > >> From what I understand (If I understand correctly), your processor >> is a powerpc64 Big Indian, not a powerpc64 Little Indian [...] > > That's "Endian", not "Indian". 8080 One little, 8085 Two little, 8086 Three little-endians 8088 Four little, 80186Five little, 80286Six little-endians 80386Seven little, 80386SX Eight little, 80486Nine little-endians Pentium DIVIDE ERROR -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | They don't understand Microsoft \ /| has stolen their car and parked X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | a taxi in their driveway. / \ if you read it the right way. |-- Mayayana
Re: Google vs. DDG
Stefan Monnier wrote: > For these kinds of searches, I tend to go to Wikipedia first. > One of the reasons is that I can do that via the Wikipedia app which is > much more snappy than my browser on my smartphone. > Another is that I have much more confidence in the Wikimedia foundation > when it comes to treating me as a product. What confidence? Anonymous people correcting each other posts. You can't trust scientists anymore not to speak of Wikipedia
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
Hi, Pat Pathmanathan wrote: > I am trying to install Debian 10.9 on the old iMac G5. I burned the > 'debian-10.9.0-ppc64el-netinst.iso’ [..] > I was > able to install Ubuntu Mate 16.04 for powerpc without any problem. Possibly you want Debian for "ppc64" or "powerpc". At least the boot equipment of debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso and debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso looks like the one of ubuntu-mate-16.04-desktop-powerpc.iso. (I.e. CHRP MBR partition and Apple Partition Map announcing a HFS filesystem. Made by genisoimage. The Debian ppc64el ISO has only CHRP and was made by xorriso.) See https://wiki.debian.org/PPC64 https://wiki.debian.org/PowerPC The latter mentions "G5 Power Macs". There is a mailing list https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/ where searching for "G5" yields lots of hits https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=G5=or=Gdebian-powerpc==10 So i guess your goal is on topic there. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Trying to debug alsa xruns
Hi, I have been experiencing audio xruns when playing back audio or video files for a while now and thought I might try to get some debugging information to find out what's wrong (hardware fault? driver bug? something else?). According to https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/XRUN_Debug this requires a kernel with debug symbols enabled, so I installed the linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64-dbg package. However this just installs what looks like a complete kernel into /usr/lib/debug . I was not able to find any useful information about what to do with this, currently it seems to only use up disk space. Maybe someone can help me out here? Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. We fight only when there is no other choice. We prefer the ways of peaceful contact. -- Kirk, "Spectre of the Gun", stardate 4385.3
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 04:38:21PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > From what I understand (If I understand correctly), your processor is a > powerpc64 Big Indian, not a powerpc64 Little Indian [...] That's "Endian", not "Indian". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
Hello, From what I understand (If I understand correctly), your processor is a powerpc64 Big Indian, not a powerpc64 Little Indian and nowadays the rare Linux ditros that still propose a powerpc64 portage do it for Litte Indian (ppc64el) as Debian do. So Debian is not compatible with your hardware. The only distros I have found that seem to support your hardware are Gentoo https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ (download the PPC64 stage3 image, not the ppc or ppc64le ones) and Adelie (the distro is in RC (release candidate) stage but ther are even live images) https://www.adelielinux.org/download/ Even the *BSD seem to lack support for the Imac G5
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
On 5/2/21 3:21 PM, Pat Pathmanathan wrote: > I am trying to install Debian 10.9 on the old iMac G5. I burned the > 'debian-10.9.0-ppc64el-netinst.iso’ image to CD on a newer iMac (2017). > When I boot the iMac G5 holding the ‘Option’ key down with the CD > inserted, the G5 doesn’t recognise the CD as a bootable CD. I then did > the same with the 'debian-bullseye-DI-rc1-ppc64el-DVD-1.iso’. Till the > same problem. I was able to install Ubuntu Mate 16.04 for powerpc > without any problem. > > Can you please help me to solve this problem? > Hi Pat, Debian has 3 architecture for powerpc : - ppc64el (official) - powerpc (unofficial) - ppc64 (unofficial) Only official architectures have testing and stable branches. Unofficial architectures have unstable/sid branch only. I'm not sure what computer architecture your old mac belongs to so try to use the same architecture you have used with Ubuntu. Kind regards Georgi
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
On 2021-05-02, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Google on the other hand knows where i am and that i understand german > and english language. Ich spreche kein deutsch. Here in France I got mainly Alfred from both search engines, with a few birds peeping through further down. > Have a nice day :) > > Thomas --
Re: Google vs. DDG
>> when I just try to search for "language:en stieglitz" (without the >> quotes) > YES! That's what I was looking for. I wasn't sure DDG had this > feature (although I hoped for it). Sadly, it doesn't work when combined with `!w`. [ and I think it'd make sense to allow the shorter `lang:de`. ] And of course, the term `language` is an obvious English bias. Stefan
Re: Google vs. DDG
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 09:05:18AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > For example I wanted to know what is Stieglitz in German - it is kind > > of bird, but I wanted to know how it looks like. DDG results did not > > even come close to a bird. > > For these kinds of searches, I tend to go to Wikipedia first. Me too :) Sometimes I combine, e.g. DDG search and site:es.wikipedia.org, if I'm interested in Spanish Wikipedia results. > One of the reasons is that I can do that via the Wikipedia app which is > much more snappy than my browser on my smartphone. > Another is that I have much more confidence in the Wikimedia foundation > when it comes to treating me as a product. Agreed. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 02:47:17PM +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2 May 2021 14:29:06 +0200 > wrote: > > (...) > > If you set your browser's primary "web page" language it works, > > too. That's probably what goes into the "Accept-Language" HTTP > > request header. Would be nice if there were a way to set that > > per-request... > > when I just try to search for "language:en stieglitz" (without the > quotes) YES! That's what I was looking for. I wasn't sure DDG had this feature (although I hoped for it). Thanks -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Google vs. DDG
> For example I wanted to know what is Stieglitz in German - it is kind > of bird, but I wanted to know how it looks like. DDG results did not > even come close to a bird. For these kinds of searches, I tend to go to Wikipedia first. One of the reasons is that I can do that via the Wikipedia app which is much more snappy than my browser on my smartphone. Another is that I have much more confidence in the Wikimedia foundation when it comes to treating me as a product. Stefan
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
Hi, On Sun, 2 May 2021 14:29:06 +0200 wrote: (...) > If you set your browser's primary "web page" language it works, > too. That's probably what goes into the "Accept-Language" HTTP > request header. Would be nice if there were a way to set that > per-request... when I just try to search for "language:en stieglitz" (without the quotes) I get search results only in English (first Alfred Stieglitz, next Victoria Stieglitz, followed by more of Alfred). The same happens when I prefix my search with language:fr instead, all French search results. It almost seems to me like this is an undocumented feature, at least it is not mentioned at https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/syntax/ Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. Do you know the one -- "All I ask is a tall ship, and a star to steer her by ..." You could feel the wind at your back, about you ... the sounds of the sea beneath you. And even if you take away the wind and the water, it's still the same. The ship is yours ... you can feel her ... and the stars are still there. -- Kirk, "The Ultimate Computer", stardate 4729.4
Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
I am trying to install Debian 10.9 on the old iMac G5. I burned the 'debian-10.9.0-ppc64el-netinst.iso’ image to CD on a newer iMac (2017). When I boot the iMac G5 holding the ‘Option’ key down with the CD inserted, the G5 doesn’t recognise the CD as a bootable CD. I then did the same with the 'debian-bullseye-DI-rc1-ppc64el-DVD-1.iso’. Till the same problem. I was able to install Ubuntu Mate 16.04 for powerpc without any problem. Can you please help me to solve this problem? Kind regards Pat
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 02:20:25PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > > Searching for "Stieglitz" DDG shows > > With Javascript off: > 1st try: Alfred Stieglitz > 2nd try: Alfred Stieglitz, Joseph E. Stiglitz, Focke-Wulf Fw 44 Stieglitz > 3rd try: Joseph E. Stiglitz, Alfred Stieglitz, Stieglitz Snyder Architecture, > Christine Stieglitz > Quite random choice, but no birds. > > "Stieglitz Vogel", too, yields no birds. > > If i set the "All Regions" menu to "Germany" i get the bird as first > match, then the people and the Fw 44 air plane. If you set your browser's primary "web page" language it works, too. That's probably what goes into the "Accept-Language" HTTP request header. Would be nice if there were a way to set that per-request... > Google on the other hand knows where i am and that i understand german > and english language. :-) > Have a nice day :) Same to you :) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
Hi, > Searching for "Stieglitz" DDG shows With Javascript off: 1st try: Alfred Stieglitz 2nd try: Alfred Stieglitz, Joseph E. Stiglitz, Focke-Wulf Fw 44 Stieglitz 3rd try: Joseph E. Stiglitz, Alfred Stieglitz, Stieglitz Snyder Architecture, Christine Stieglitz Quite random choice, but no birds. "Stieglitz Vogel", too, yields no birds. If i set the "All Regions" menu to "Germany" i get the bird as first match, then the people and the Fw 44 air plane. Google on the other hand knows where i am and that i understand german and english language. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 01:20:03PM +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 02 May 2021 12:57:59 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > (...) > > I'm sorry guys, but DDG is another joke. For example I wanted to know > > what is Stieglitz in German - it is kind of bird, but I wanted to know > > how it looks like. DDG results did not even come close to a bird. > > this I cannot reproduce here. Searching for "Stieglitz" DDG shows me as > the first result https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stieglitz , followed by > other bird-related pages in German. Switching to DDG's image search I get > a whole page with photos of these cute beasts. You have to set your preferred language to German (not the UI language, but the language your browser negotiates with web pages: in Firefox it is "Choose your preferred language for displaying pages") to German. As others say in this thread, you have to use your brain a bit more to be happy with DDG. To me, honestly, this is a feature, not a bug. > I'm sorry guys, but DDG is another joke. I don't know whether that wants to sound cool or what. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
On Sonntag, 2. Mai 2021 07:20:03 -04 Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 02 May 2021 12:57:59 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > (...) > > > I'm sorry guys, but DDG is another joke. For example I wanted to > > know > > what is Stieglitz in German - it is kind of bird, but I wanted to > > know how it looks like. DDG results did not even come close to a > > bird. > this I cannot reproduce here. Searching for "Stieglitz" DDG shows me > as the first result https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stieglitz , > followed by other bird-related pages in German. Switching to DDG's > image search I get a whole page with photos of these cute beasts. > > Regards > > Michael > same here and "Stieglitz bird" brings up photos of the bird, the translation into "European Goldfinch" and the link to "European Goldfinch - Wikipedia". It all seems to require a little bit more effort to put into the search to get what I want from DDG while I usually have to put more effort into Google-searches to tell Google that I don't want what it "thinks" that I want - e.g. it "thinks" that I want everything in Spanish and seems to ignore completely that the country of my residence is a multilingual country with at least 4 main languages and many others, which are natively spoken by significant parts of the population. But as soon as I succeed convincing Google that I want English or Dutch or German or Portuguese then I am able to extract what I want. In this line National Geographic is far worse than Google. Just for once try to get an English edition subscription in a country which NatGeo considers Spanish-speaking. Cheers Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE 01726 Asuncion / Paraguay
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
Hi, On Sun, 02 May 2021 12:57:59 +0200 deloptes wrote: (...) > I'm sorry guys, but DDG is another joke. For example I wanted to know > what is Stieglitz in German - it is kind of bird, but I wanted to know > how it looks like. DDG results did not even come close to a bird. this I cannot reproduce here. Searching for "Stieglitz" DDG shows me as the first result https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stieglitz , followed by other bird-related pages in German. Switching to DDG's image search I get a whole page with photos of these cute beasts. Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. ... The things love can drive a man to -- the ecstasies, the the miseries, the broken rules, the desperate chances, the glorious failures and the glorious victories. -- McCoy, "Requiem for Methuselah", stardate 5843.7
Re: Error ejecutando consultas mediante comando ftp
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 11:43:14AM +0200, fernando sainz wrote: > El dom, 2 may 2021 a las 11:17, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez > () escribió: > > > > Hola, Lista Debian. > > > > Cuando ejecuto el comando ftp desde el terminal ingreso sin problemas en el > > servidor ftp (externo) y me identifico con mi usuario y contraseña igual de > > exitosamente. Pero cuando voy a ejecutar los comandos internos ls o dir > > recibo la siguiente respuesta: > > > > ftp> ls > > 200 PORT command successful > > 425 Could not open data connection to port 47379: Connection refused > > ftp> > > > > Debo remarcar que otros clientes como el gráfico gFTP o el también de texto > > lftp realizan la operación con total naturalidad y sin error, así que > > deduzco que el problema debe estar en el lado de mi cliente y no de parte > > del servidor. > > > > Hola. > No da mucha información. > Si es cosa del cliente, puede ser que el servidor use el modo passive > y el cliente normal de ftp, no. > invoca el comando con la opción -p a ver. > S2. > Muchas gracias, Fernando. Ha acertado Usted de pleno. La inclusión de la opción -p en la invocación del cliente ha hecho que el funcionamiento de este sea el esperado y correcto. Agradezco enormemente el esfuerzo colaborativo de soporte que supone participar en la lista ayudando a otros. Saludos. Jose Luis. -- http://lordofunix.eu5.org/ Usuario GNU/Hurd no registrado. Usuario BSD registrado 51101. Usuario Linux registrado #213309. Una vez más cabalgaré con mis caballeros, para defender lo que fue. y el sueño de lo que pudo ser.
Re: Error ejecutando consultas mediante comando ftp
El dom, 2 may 2021 a las 11:17, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez () escribió: > > Hola, Lista Debian. > > Cuando ejecuto el comando ftp desde el terminal ingreso sin problemas en el > servidor ftp (externo) y me identifico con mi usuario y contraseña igual de > exitosamente. Pero cuando voy a ejecutar los comandos internos ls o dir > recibo la siguiente respuesta: > > ftp> ls > 200 PORT command successful > 425 Could not open data connection to port 47379: Connection refused > ftp> > > Debo remarcar que otros clientes como el gráfico gFTP o el también de texto > lftp realizan la operación con total naturalidad y sin error, así que > deduzco que el problema debe estar en el lado de mi cliente y no de parte > del servidor. > > La versión de ftp que estoy usando es 0.17-34.1.1. > > ¿Alguna pista o consejo de porqué puede estar sucediendo esto?. > > Muchas gracias anticipadas. > > Saludos. > Jose Luis. > > -- > http://lordofunix.eu5.org/ > > Usuario GNU/Hurd no registrado. > Usuario BSD registrado 51101. > Usuario Linux registrado #213309. > Una vez más cabalgaré con mis caballeros, > para defender lo que fue. > y el sueño de lo que pudo ser. > Hola. No da mucha información. Si es cosa del cliente, puede ser que el servidor use el modo passive y el cliente normal de ftp, no. invoca el comando con la opción -p a ver. S2.
Error ejecutando consultas mediante comando ftp
Hola, Lista Debian. Cuando ejecuto el comando ftp desde el terminal ingreso sin problemas en el servidor ftp (externo) y me identifico con mi usuario y contraseña igual de exitosamente. Pero cuando voy a ejecutar los comandos internos ls o dir recibo la siguiente respuesta: ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful 425 Could not open data connection to port 47379: Connection refused ftp> Debo remarcar que otros clientes como el gráfico gFTP o el también de texto lftp realizan la operación con total naturalidad y sin error, así que deduzco que el problema debe estar en el lado de mi cliente y no de parte del servidor. La versión de ftp que estoy usando es 0.17-34.1.1. ¿Alguna pista o consejo de porqué puede estar sucediendo esto?. Muchas gracias anticipadas. Saludos. Jose Luis. -- http://lordofunix.eu5.org/ Usuario GNU/Hurd no registrado. Usuario BSD registrado 51101. Usuario Linux registrado #213309. Una vez más cabalgaré con mis caballeros, para defender lo que fue. y el sueño de lo que pudo ser.
[OT] Sobre el BLOQUEO DE SITIOS y el uso de las VPN.
El 2021-05-01 a las 21:37 -0400, luis escribió: > Deseo consultar algo con los expertos. > > Es posible bloquear páginas en los servidores del proveedor de internet y > que no se puedan acceder a ciertos sitios aún usando VPN? (...) Sin connivencia entre el proveedor ISP y el servicio de VPN (marcado de paquetes), no. Ahora bien, ten por seguro que, llegado el caso, el ISP bloqueará debidamente el acceso a la VPN y problema (parcialmente) resuelto. Existe el precedente de China, que ya lo están haciendo así. Saludos, -- Camaleón
