image-magick import broken on debian 11
Hello, I've been trying to use the import command from image-magick and getting import: error while loading shared libraries: libIlmImf-2_2.so.23: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I tried removing and installing packages but have not yet been successful at fixing or replacing the missing object. Can someone suggest what commands I should run that should provide a working image magick ?
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 05:08:18PM -0500, Brian Thompson wrote: [...] > The debian-user mailing list is a joke [...] You would expect some conflict in such a big community. Nevertheless, what you're doing here doesn't help in any way, I fear. Perhaps you don't care, but then... why are you here at all? Your post is, in some tragic way, self-referential. Not that I think you have any bad intentions, mind you. But it makes me sad. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
I seem to have resolved the issue above after rebooting. Thanks for helping to debug Thomas and everyone. On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 1:29 PM Colin Williams wrote: > > > -- > > > > Do you have a file > > /dev/loop-control > > ? > > > > What is listed by > > > > ls -ld /dev/loop* > > > > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo ls /dev/loop-control > [sudo] password for colin: > ls: cannot access '/dev/loop-control': No such file or directory > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo ls -ld /dev/loop* > ls: cannot access '/dev/loop*': No such file or directory > > > > > -- > > > > What happens if you try to create a loop device manually ? > > > > not_yet_existing_file="some_file_path" > dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=2 of="$not_yet_existing_file" > sudo losetup loop0 "$not_yet_existing_file" > > not_yet_existing_file="/tmp/does_not_exist_yet" > dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=2 of="$not_yet_existing_file" > sudo losetup loop0 "$not_yet_existing_file" > 2+0 records in > 2+0 records out > 1024 bytes (1.0 kB, 1.0 KiB) copied, 0.000187826 s, 5.5 MB/s > losetup: /dev/loop0: failed to set up loop device: No such file or directory > > > There should be no messages from losetup. > > But we see one above ^^ > > > sudo wc -c > should yield "1024". > > sudo wc -c bash: /dev/loop0: No such file or directory > > > > To clean up do: > > > losetup -d /dev/loop0 > rm "$not_yet_existing_file" > > > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 > losetup: /dev/loop0: failed to use device: No such device > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ rm "$not_yet_existing_file" > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ > > __ > > > > > > > Have a nice day :) > > > > Thomas > > > Thank you Thomas. Thanks again for looking at my issue. Not sure where > to go from here. > > > > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ uname -r > 5.10.0-3-amd64 > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ cat /etc/debian_version > 11.0colin@M00974055-VM:~$ lsmod | grep loop > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo modprobe loop > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ lsmod | grep loop > loop 36864 0 > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=2 > of="$not_yet_existing_file" > 2+0 records in > 2+0 records out > 1024 bytes (1.0 kB, 1.0 KiB) copied, 0.000134838 s, 7.6 MB/s > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo losetup loop0 "$not_yet_existing_file" > > No error here ^^ Guess we needed to load the module? > > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo wc -c bash: /dev/loop0: Permission denied > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo -i > root@M00974055-VM:~# wc -c 1024 > root@M00974055-VM: > > > wc -c 1024 > root@M00974055-VM:~# losetup -d /dev/loop0 > rm "$not_yet_existing_file" > rm: cannot remove '': No such file or directory > > I think we are on to something after loading the module > > _ > > I re-ran the script after the module. It looks like it's making more > progress but still getting an eventual error related to loopback > devices: > > http://ix.io/3vi8 > > > ^^ This is probably the most useful to look at moving forward ^^ > > Now I will re-run the inital commands below > > sudo ls -ld /dev/loop* > brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 0 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 12 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p1 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 21 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p10 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 22 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p11 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 23 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p12 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 13 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p2 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 14 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p3 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 15 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p4 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 16 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p5 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 17 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p6 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 18 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p7 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 19 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p8 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 20 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p9 > brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 1 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 0 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p1 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 9 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p10 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 10 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p11 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 11 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p12 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 1 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p2 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 2 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p3 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 3 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p4 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 4 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p5 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 5 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p6 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 6 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p7 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 7 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p8 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 8 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p9 > brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 2 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2 > brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 24 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p1
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 2021-08-07 at 23:01 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 23:24:31 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 02:26:41PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. > > > > I totally agree. And I'm a bit horrified by the hostility shown > > towards the OP by some. > > There wasn't any hostility shown to the OP of this thread. He was > collateral damage. You can thank didier gaumet and his baseless > accusation for that. > > Apology, I hear you ask? Don't hold your breath. > The debian-user mailing list is a joke. I don't want to say its main users are people looking for an e-peen ego boost, but there are quite a few arrogant and self-righteous individuals that make almost any civil discussion turn hostile. It's amusing to watch as much as it is sad. - -- Best regards, Brian T. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJHBAEBCgAxFiEE9fpVo96/flopdKOfgw2Ncu3Nhn0FAmEPBFITHGJyaWFuQGhh c2h2YXVsdC5pbwAKCRCDDY1y7c2GfZZVD/9X925byB6ypHfyzd9oCw+CjMGojSOb nF9mphf0x8Se/r0PfkKrKnqd6oD79TtSyJTFjUou8OxCwkYC0So1HOgNECDXoRat R0CXv5CCh5EYSyS8ClwWPWJrH4mL67RxdDVKNAtUuHtjYbRTjY8M3v9rGZyffgit vEFip3o61YibZ2psmnfZz0iJLcViQmixMPNJ5KH2Lk/TvqKk1X08mvjuVvyNOuNO v03mB87P1ls4cGDy9UsUfUjTrpyHXipjErzr+aEAa5kv3lLQVDYjBFU8NkS4arTM rARkdx1Pxw/SsQLCR90yLo/fd7co/mxFz5wntnKl/TdvX1jWK+/qHAsx2qBIALA5 hn6ED5fHqn04jZ7P0ip5BNEob/v+teDTuNUJcgUH4+qafsn7QMqvIRbS5dJTDksb JZqC5SNMJHmjYW51iFpRyan7rhCwEGgjbSAh7kDDut1WUgCuE80EFf8wh1iJnH7l zaVrPIMXyCqQkPNwgFwiWtoKF7o7bnAMgIsXkK2+BN8g+GyUZ+7ZFZQYsdrCtZ7S nV9L0XhdPvVa2eb+UPqLBiIzMZXpqXqeBD1A9BbV1HNxUW9J9kHpm7BVIKbSK/sQ Iez81weVuYCUaXip0uaWDsejRsZiZQtzpdbF48zIHy5pl9luxXw8JQ8VWzCVBud7 0n1evAer6HFG9A== =GzHo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 23:24:31 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 02:26:41PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > [...] > > > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. > > I totally agree. And I'm a bit horrified by the hostility shown > towards the OP by some. There wasn't any hostility shown to the OP of this thread. He was collateral damage. You can thank didier gaumet and his baseless accusation for that. Apology, I hear you ask? Don't hold your breath. -- Brian.
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 02:26:41PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. I totally agree. And I'm a bit horrified by the hostility shown towards the OP by some. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
> -- > > Do you have a file > /dev/loop-control > ? > > What is listed by > > ls -ld /dev/loop* > colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo ls /dev/loop-control [sudo] password for colin: ls: cannot access '/dev/loop-control': No such file or directory colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo ls -ld /dev/loop* ls: cannot access '/dev/loop*': No such file or directory > -- > > What happens if you try to create a loop device manually ? > not_yet_existing_file="some_file_path" dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=2 of="$not_yet_existing_file" sudo losetup loop0 "$not_yet_existing_file" not_yet_existing_file="/tmp/does_not_exist_yet" dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=2 of="$not_yet_existing_file" sudo losetup loop0 "$not_yet_existing_file" 2+0 records in 2+0 records out 1024 bytes (1.0 kB, 1.0 KiB) copied, 0.000187826 s, 5.5 MB/s losetup: /dev/loop0: failed to set up loop device: No such file or directory > There should be no messages from losetup. But we see one above ^^ > sudo wc -c should yield "1024". sudo wc -c To clean up do: > losetup -d /dev/loop0 rm "$not_yet_existing_file" colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 losetup: /dev/loop0: failed to use device: No such device colin@M00974055-VM:~$ rm "$not_yet_existing_file" colin@M00974055-VM:~$ __ > > > Have a nice day :) > > Thomas Thank you Thomas. Thanks again for looking at my issue. Not sure where to go from here. colin@M00974055-VM:~$ uname -r 5.10.0-3-amd64 colin@M00974055-VM:~$ cat /etc/debian_version 11.0colin@M00974055-VM:~$ lsmod | grep loop colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo modprobe loop colin@M00974055-VM:~$ lsmod | grep loop loop 36864 0 colin@M00974055-VM:~$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=2 of="$not_yet_existing_file" 2+0 records in 2+0 records out 1024 bytes (1.0 kB, 1.0 KiB) copied, 0.000134838 s, 7.6 MB/s colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo losetup loop0 "$not_yet_existing_file" No error here ^^ Guess we needed to load the module? colin@M00974055-VM:~$ sudo wc -c http://ix.io/3vi8 ^^ This is probably the most useful to look at moving forward ^^ Now I will re-run the inital commands below sudo ls -ld /dev/loop* brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 0 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 12 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p1 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 21 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p10 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 22 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p11 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 23 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p12 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 13 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p2 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 14 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p3 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 15 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p4 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 16 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p5 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 17 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p6 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 18 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p7 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 19 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p8 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 20 Aug 7 13:07 /dev/loop0p9 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 1 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 0 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p1 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 9 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p10 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 10 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p11 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 11 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p12 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 1 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p2 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 2 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p3 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 3 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p4 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 4 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p5 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 5 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p6 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 6 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p7 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 7 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p8 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 8 Aug 7 13:01 /dev/loop1p9 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 2 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 24 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p1 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 33 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p10 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 34 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p11 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 35 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p12 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 25 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p2 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 26 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p3 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 27 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p4 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 28 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p5 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 29 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p6 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 30 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p7 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 31 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p8 brw-rw 1 root disk 259, 32 Aug 7 13:09 /dev/loop2p9 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 3 Aug 7 12:59 /dev/loop3 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 4 Aug 7 12:59 /dev/loop4 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 5 Aug 7 12:59 /dev/loop5 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 6 Aug 7 12:59 /dev/loop6 brw-rw 1 root disk 7, 7 Aug 7 12:59 /dev/loop7 crw-rw 1 root disk 10, 237 Aug 7 12:59 /dev/loop-cont
'too much mushroom beer'
On 8/7/21 9:20 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: potential Einstein quote (after he had too much mushroom beer and confused life with time) - innocent questions : would that be Magic-Mushroom Beer ?? &, does anyone, anywhere sell a legit mushroom-beer, or, only home-brew?? cheers!! .
Re: Howto change of subjects [ was : Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian]
On 2021-08-07, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > It's quite easy to begin a new subject. > > Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much. Asses will ordinarily *hee-haw* (*who* hee-haws precisely is left as the traditional exercise).
Re: Manners (and deficits in german language)
Hi, ellanios82 misspelled: > : *ach, so schwere ist das leben* You either need to drop an "e" or move the comma. In the latter case it would be a potential Einstein quote (after he had too much mushroom beer and confused life with time). Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: AppImages and Sandboxes
Sven Hartge writes: > Richmond wrote: >> I get this error. > >> ./Franz-5.7.0.AppImage >> [3509:0807/163715.039384:FATAL:setuid_sandbox_host.cc(158)] The SUID >> sandbox helper binary was found, but is not configured correctly. Rather >> than run without sandboxing I'm aborting now. You need to make sure that >> /tmp/.mount_Franz-jpX9Z2/chrome-sandbox is owned by root and has mode >> 4755. Trace/breakpoint trap > >> How can I fix this error as the file is temporary? > > This problem is specific to any Electron-based app running from an > Appimage. You can do two things: > > 1) Add "--no-sandbox" as a parameter when starting it. > 2) Do "sudo sysctl -w kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=1" to allow the >necessary sandboxing to work. > 2a) Create /etc/sysctl.d/00-local-userns.conf with > kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=1 > in it to make this permanent. > > All other Distributions apart from Debian set this option by default and > Debian 11 will follow suit. > > S° Thanks!
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 05:03:10 (-0700), Colin Williams wrote: > >The error message of losetup does not match this theory. > > Re-reading http://ix.io/3v6K and it does appear that possibly > /mnt/src/host/ does exist based on some of the debugging output. > Thanks for making me look back. I made this "theory" on trying to `ls > /mnt/host/src/rc/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin` ↑↑ Is this a typo. This is the second time of posting: > after the script had been executed. I received an error the path > didn't exist. But perhaps it was cleaned up after the script finished > executing. > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 1:19 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Colin Williams: > > > 3) When trying to create the loopback device the script tries to use a > > > path > > > /mnt/host/src/rc/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin > > > which does not exist Cheers, David.
Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 19:23:58 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/7/21 7:11 PM, Brian wrote: > > Having diagnosed my condition > > > : regrettably, my archive seems in state of a toxic-waste-dump :((( > > > . > > > -- a synopsis of your condition?? You will have to ask an expert like Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside. The diagnosis came as acomplete surprise to me. I am beginning to think it was part of the "putting the boot" technique applied to users who do not fall into line and agree with certain views. The prevalance of ad hominem in some posts is worrying. -- Brian.
Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']
On 8/7/21 7:57 PM, Brian wrote: advising someone to read a book on anatomy seems to be your style : *ach, so schwere ist das leben* * * ** * rgds* *.* **
Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 12:30:45 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > On 2021-08-07 12:11 p.m., Brian wrote: > > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:13:15 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 2021-08-07 10:05 a.m., Brian wrote: > >>> On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 16:36:19 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > >>> > > : https://www.merriam-webster.com/ > >>> > >>> [Snipped] > >>> > >>> The point of your posting appears to be to point out a user's > >>> spelling mistake. Maybe he is grateful for the uinsolicited > >>> advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list. Please > >>> refrain. > >>> > >> > >> Being irrelevant is considered bad manners in all community. So maybe > >> you shall police yourself *before* looking to comment on others behavior. > >> > >> There's nothing *bad* in this explanation as it's only popular culture > >> explained. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing hidden and no *angry mob* > >> except maybe you that has the a limited tolerance. Don't worry, autistic > >> type of person are loved on this list. We accept that for you it may be > >> hard to understand all the magnitude behind act of language. > > > > So, so interesting: Don't address the actual point made but go for > > the person. Having diagnosed my condition, can one expect more > > condiderate and sympathetic treatment in the future? > > > Indeed yes, you'll get appropriate treatment for your condition. > I first suggest you read the book "Psychiatric Slavery" authored by > Thomas Szasz. I think this will be a good start on a new road. A nice side-step to avoid an a direct response to the question. I am glad you are not a practising doctor. Diagnosing a broken leg and advising someone to read a book on anatomy seems to be your style. -- Brian.
Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']
On 2021-08-07 12:11 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:13:15 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2021-08-07 10:05 a.m., Brian wrote: >>> On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 16:36:19 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: >>> : https://www.merriam-webster.com/ >>> >>> [Snipped] >>> >>> The point of your posting appears to be to point out a user's >>> spelling mistake. Maybe he is grateful for the uinsolicited >>> advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list. Please >>> refrain. >>> >> >> Being irrelevant is considered bad manners in all community. So maybe >> you shall police yourself *before* looking to comment on others behavior. >> >> There's nothing *bad* in this explanation as it's only popular culture >> explained. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing hidden and no *angry mob* >> except maybe you that has the a limited tolerance. Don't worry, autistic >> type of person are loved on this list. We accept that for you it may be >> hard to understand all the magnitude behind act of language. > > So, so interesting: Don't address the actual point made but go for > the person. Having diagnosed my condition, can one expect more > condiderate and sympathetic treatment in the future? > Indeed yes, you'll get appropriate treatment for your condition. I first suggest you read the book "Psychiatric Slavery" authored by Thomas Szasz. I think this will be a good start on a new road. -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']
On 8/7/21 7:11 PM, Brian wrote: Having diagnosed my condition : regrettably, my archive seems in state of a toxic-waste-dump :((( . -- a synopsis of your condition?? rgds .
Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:13:15 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-07 10:05 a.m., Brian wrote: > > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 16:36:19 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > > > >> > >> : https://www.merriam-webster.com/ > > > > [Snipped] > > > > The point of your posting appears to be to point out a user's > > spelling mistake. Maybe he is grateful for the uinsolicited > > advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list. Please > > refrain. > > > > Being irrelevant is considered bad manners in all community. So maybe > you shall police yourself *before* looking to comment on others behavior. > > There's nothing *bad* in this explanation as it's only popular culture > explained. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing hidden and no *angry mob* > except maybe you that has the a limited tolerance. Don't worry, autistic > type of person are loved on this list. We accept that for you it may be > hard to understand all the magnitude behind act of language. So, so interesting: Don't address the actual point made but go for the person. Having diagnosed my condition, can one expect more condiderate and sympathetic treatment in the future? -- Brian.
Re: AppImages and Sandboxes
Richmond wrote: > I get this error. > ./Franz-5.7.0.AppImage > [3509:0807/163715.039384:FATAL:setuid_sandbox_host.cc(158)] The SUID > sandbox helper binary was found, but is not configured correctly. Rather > than run without sandboxing I'm aborting now. You need to make sure that > /tmp/.mount_Franz-jpX9Z2/chrome-sandbox is owned by root and has mode > 4755. Trace/breakpoint trap > How can I fix this error as the file is temporary? This problem is specific to any Electron-based app running from an Appimage. You can do two things: 1) Add "--no-sandbox" as a parameter when starting it. 2) Do "sudo sysctl -w kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=1" to allow the necessary sandboxing to work. 2a) Create /etc/sysctl.d/00-local-userns.conf with kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=1 in it to make this permanent. All other Distributions apart from Debian set this option by default and Debian 11 will follow suit. S° -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
AppImages and Sandboxes
I get this error. ./Franz-5.7.0.AppImage [3509:0807/163715.039384:FATAL:setuid_sandbox_host.cc(158)] The SUID sandbox helper binary was found, but is not configured correctly. Rather than run without sandboxing I'm aborting now. You need to make sure that /tmp/.mount_Franz-jpX9Z2/chrome-sandbox is owned by root and has mode 4755. Trace/breakpoint trap How can I fix this error as the file is temporary?
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 14:26:41 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 10:02:36AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 2021-08-07 9:31 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > >> On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> [...] > > >> > > >>> It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act > > >>> like you did it. > > >> > > >> Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and > > >> it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. > > > > > > I would never have blocked "Gunnar" based on an accusation that he > > > was trolling. > > > > > > I blocked him after he confessed that he was trolling. > > Personally blocking people / adding them to your "I'll ignore this person > when I see them" is fine. [The old "Congratulations, you have found your > way into my killfile. *PLONK* - type message.] Given that it is a user's right to control the mail he wants to receive, I have always found it it strange when a blocking is announced to the world. > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. It is hardly assuming good faith. Just do not reply. > > I think that the line that was crossed simply mandate that he gets > > ignored by now. > > I did so with the last message he sent me yesterday (and posted on the > > list). Was a bunch of hard to follow series of sentence. But this > > confirm that it seems to be a choice done on having incomprehensible > > messages and loose talk, because he did write some clear and well > > written message. > > I think that this person had difficulties in explaining themselves. That made > it annoying / frustrating to see no progress. We all threw in effort and it > didn't seem to be going very far. I'm not going to speculate whther that > difficulty was accidental / deliberate to wastte our time. Speculating on people's motives in public is fraught at the best of times. On this list "Assume good faith" is a guiding principle so you wouldn't do it anyway. > > I feel that many person cherry pick one message, like the one I wrote > > and got out of context, talking about a Lynch mob. > > > > Often when someone ask for help, we'll answer back that there's > > information missing so we can answer properly. > > Example, the person say > > *I can't start X11* > > And we'll ask > > What version of Debian are you running ? > > What are the outputs ? Logs ? > > What's your graphic card / GPU ? > > etc... > > > > See also why I picked some elements from Greg's list / David's message to > put into the monthly FAQ messsage. It now has a section on how to ask > good questions and read the answers. Thanks, list, for reminding me and > making me amend the mail. > > > Why do we do so ? > > So our answer is relevant. > > > > Same rules apply when giving comment, if you want to have it relevant > > then look at the whole story. > > Or you'll only get a part and go off track. > > This has been a particularly frustrating thread and hard to follow in > general. I found its general thrust easy to follow. User-criticism par excellance. -- Brian.
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 11:07:01 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-07 11:00 a.m., Brian wrote: > > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:02:36 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > [Snipping] > > > >> *Dider*: There's some similarities between this dude and two others > >> troller. > > > > didier gaumet said more than that. He said: > > > > > I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, > > > Rishi and roa moshin (non-limitative list) are the same > > > troll: there are troubling similarities... > > > > No justification and smearing the reputations of three users into the > > bargaing. "Assume good faith" says the Code of Conduct. Quite the > > opposite is on view in this thread. > > > *good faith* ? Publish a passport on a public mailing list ? This really got to you, didn't it :). So much so you had to omit "Assume" from "Assume good faith" to make a very dubious point. "Assume good faith" is directed at you (and me). > I don't consider this something that is both responsible AND helpful. > > >> *Dude*: You have no proof it's me > > > > That's correct. No evidence. The theory presented doesn't merit a > > second glance. > > > >> *Dude*: You have no proof it's me... I post someone's Passport ID page. > >> *Me*: Posting a passport id page is a criminal offense in most countries > >> AND doesn't proof much, except maybe that you'd be dumb to post your own. > >> *Greg* says : That's a for of guilt admission, not saying "I didn't do > >> it" but saying "No proof". > >> *Me* : Exactly, it's not a court of law here. So it's not about proof > >> but about what will people get from what you say. > >> *and now the best* > >> *Irrelevant writer* : This is a acting mob looking for a lynch. > > > > Irrelevant? That hurt! I will have to go for a lie down for the > > remainder of the afternoon. :) > *You can go lie down if you feel tired* I'm not your wife to police what > you do of your day. You are making assumptions agian. -- Brian.
Re: 'uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list'
On 8/7/21 6:07 PM, Brian wrote: would be wise to fall in with that tradition ~ overwhelmed with gratitude : thank you . rgds .
Re: 'uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list'
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 17:12:37 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/7/21 5:05 PM, Brian wrote: > > uinsolicited > > advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list > > > : in total ?? : Zero unsolicited ?? As evidenced by your change of subject title, you have completely and utterly misunderstood the nature of my post. Spelling critique is not done (and has never been done) on -user. It would be wise to fall in with that tradition. -- Brian.
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
Hi, On 2021-08-07 11:00 a.m., Brian wrote: > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:02:36 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > [Snipping] > >> *Dider*: There's some similarities between this dude and two others troller. > > didier gaumet said more than that. He said: > > > I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, > > Rishi and roa moshin (non-limitative list) are the same > > troll: there are troubling similarities... > > No justification and smearing the reputations of three users into the > bargaing. "Assume good faith" says the Code of Conduct. Quite the > opposite is on view in this thread. > *good faith* ? Publish a passport on a public mailing list ? I don't consider this something that is both responsible AND helpful. >> *Dude*: You have no proof it's me > > That's correct. No evidence. The theory presented doesn't merit a > second glance. > >> *Dude*: You have no proof it's me... I post someone's Passport ID page. >> *Me*: Posting a passport id page is a criminal offense in most countries >> AND doesn't proof much, except maybe that you'd be dumb to post your own. >> *Greg* says : That's a for of guilt admission, not saying "I didn't do >> it" but saying "No proof". >> *Me* : Exactly, it's not a court of law here. So it's not about proof >> but about what will people get from what you say. >> *and now the best* >> *Irrelevant writer* : This is a acting mob looking for a lynch. > > Irrelevant? That hurt! I will have to go for a lie down for the > remainder of the afternoon. :) *You can go lie down if you feel tired* I'm not your wife to police what you do of your day. -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On 2021-08-07 10:26 a.m., Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > I think that this person had difficulties in explaining themselves. That made > it annoying / frustrating to see no progress. We all threw in effort and it > didn't seem to be going very far. I'm not going to speculate whther that > difficulty was accidental / deliberate to wastte our time. > >> >> I feel that many person cherry pick one message, like the one I wrote >> and got out of context, talking about a Lynch mob. >> >> Often when someone ask for help, we'll answer back that there's >> information missing so we can answer properly. >> Example, the person say >> *I can't start X11* >> And we'll ask >> What version of Debian are you running ? >> What are the outputs ? Logs ? >> What's your graphic card / GPU ? >> etc... >> > > See also why I picked some elements from Greg's list / David's message to > put into the monthly FAQ messsage. It now has a section on how to ask > good questions and read the answers. Thanks, list, for reminding me and > making me amend the mail. > I've worked at tech support for many years, mostly on the 2nd level, that is doing follow up on problems reported by agent on the phone. And even if we selected agent with good educational background, it didn't do the job and we had questions that missed the most basic information to be answered, people saying what they expect and not what they tried or what they use, etc. This is something hard to get for many. And this not only apply to our lists here, most of us know what we don't want but have problem saying what we'd like. >> Why do we do so ? >> So our answer is relevant. >> >> Same rules apply when giving comment, if you want to have it relevant >> then look at the whole story. >> Or you'll only get a part and go off track. > > This has been a particularly frustrating thread and hard to follow in > general. > It's not straightforward to make this a useful list where people feel > welcome and able to raise issues. At the risk of sounding very "pink and > fluffy": many of the people who appear here are not familiar with mailing > lists at all. We need to look at everyone "with kind eyes" to some extent > unless they are abruptly hostile and to give people the benefit of the > doubt. > I always try to give explanation to others when their question seem hard to follow, or simply to use a good descriptive subject. This doesn't seem to be appreciated by some. Strangely, most of the time, the original poster will say thanks at one moment, the complaints seem to come from others who'd prefer only to ignore. > One way to deal with people being difficult is to report the issue to > the Community Team. Full disclosure: I'm part of the Community Team > as is Steve Mcintyre who pops up here occasionally. The team will > normally talk it over, decide what action to take and carry it out. > That can be just an email off list to the person being difficult, > a recommendation to block someone to go to the listmasters - anything > seen as appropriate. > Thanks for you work. I've reported to Google (probably useless) the user who posted a Passport on a Google Drive link. > Another way - which is quicker and easier in some ways - is to choose to > ignore them for the sake of your own peace of mind. Not every post has > to be replied to. Not everything demands a response about the character > of the poster: even if it does, waiting a couple of hours to reply may > always be a good idea. Others may post in the meantime and you may find > that you no longer lead to post. > > All the very best to all, as ever, > > Andy Cater >> -- >> Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside >> -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development >> > > [Copied also to Community Team mail alias for their reference]. > -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:02:36 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [Snipping] > *Dider*: There's some similarities between this dude and two others troller. didier gaumet said more than that. He said: > I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, > Rishi and roa moshin (non-limitative list) are the same > troll: there are troubling similarities... No justification and smearing the reputations of three users into the bargaing. "Assume good faith" says the Code of Conduct. Quite the opposite is on view in this thread. > *Dude*: You have no proof it's me That's correct. No evidence. The theory presented doesn't merit a second glance. > *Dude*: You have no proof it's me... I post someone's Passport ID page. > *Me*: Posting a passport id page is a criminal offense in most countries > AND doesn't proof much, except maybe that you'd be dumb to post your own. > *Greg* says : That's a for of guilt admission, not saying "I didn't do > it" but saying "No proof". > *Me* : Exactly, it's not a court of law here. So it's not about proof > but about what will people get from what you say. > *and now the best* > *Irrelevant writer* : This is a acting mob looking for a lynch. Irrelevant? That hurt! I will have to go for a lie down for the remainder of the afternoon. :) > I'd start to also call this some strange form of trolling. I am dismayed by the acceptance given to didier gaumet's post. Does that response really deserve insults and ad hominem? -- Brian. > -- > Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside > -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development >
Re: 'uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list'
Hi, On 2021-08-07 10:37 a.m., ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/7/21 5:17 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> doesn't have much aptitude with interacting with human > > > - also , most stuff originates as unsolicited?? > Human stupidity is always unsolicited... > > . > > rgds > > . > > > -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 'uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list'
On 8/7/21 5:17 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: doesn't have much aptitude with interacting with human - also , most stuff originates as unsolicited?? . rgds .
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 10:02:36AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-07 9:31 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > >> wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act > >>> like you did it. > >> > >> Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and > >> it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. > > > > I would never have blocked "Gunnar" based on an accusation that he > > was trolling. > > > > I blocked him after he confessed that he was trolling. Personally blocking people / adding them to your "I'll ignore this person when I see them" is fine. [The old "Congratulations, you have found your way into my killfile. *PLONK* - type message.] Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. > > > I think that the line that was crossed simply mandate that he gets > ignored by now. > I did so with the last message he sent me yesterday (and posted on the > list). Was a bunch of hard to follow series of sentence. But this > confirm that it seems to be a choice done on having incomprehensible > messages and loose talk, because he did write some clear and well > written message. I think that this person had difficulties in explaining themselves. That made it annoying / frustrating to see no progress. We all threw in effort and it didn't seem to be going very far. I'm not going to speculate whther that difficulty was accidental / deliberate to wastte our time. > > I feel that many person cherry pick one message, like the one I wrote > and got out of context, talking about a Lynch mob. > > Often when someone ask for help, we'll answer back that there's > information missing so we can answer properly. > Example, the person say > *I can't start X11* > And we'll ask > What version of Debian are you running ? > What are the outputs ? Logs ? > What's your graphic card / GPU ? > etc... > See also why I picked some elements from Greg's list / David's message to put into the monthly FAQ messsage. It now has a section on how to ask good questions and read the answers. Thanks, list, for reminding me and making me amend the mail. > Why do we do so ? > So our answer is relevant. > > Same rules apply when giving comment, if you want to have it relevant > then look at the whole story. > Or you'll only get a part and go off track. This has been a particularly frustrating thread and hard to follow in general. > And it's exactly what happened here. > We got someone who add a sentence relating to a lynch mob. Where it > wasn't the case in no way. And those are the same person that are unable > to justify what they say, but wanna benefit from free speech to add a point. > > *Dider*: There's some similarities between this dude and two others troller. > *Dude*: You have no proof it's me > *Dude*: You have no proof it's me... I post someone's Passport ID page. > *Me*: Posting a passport id page is a criminal offense in most countries > AND doesn't proof much, except maybe that you'd be dumb to post your own. > *Greg* says : That's a for of guilt admission, not saying "I didn't do > it" but saying "No proof". > *Me* : Exactly, it's not a court of law here. So it's not about proof > but about what will people get from what you say. > *and now the best* > *Irrelevant writer* : This is a acting mob looking for a lynch. > > I'd start to also call this some strange form of trolling. It's not straightforward to make this a useful list where people feel welcome and able to raise issues. At the risk of sounding very "pink and fluffy": many of the people who appear here are not familiar with mailing lists at all. We need to look at everyone "with kind eyes" to some extent unless they are abruptly hostile and to give people the benefit of the doubt. One way to deal with people being difficult is to report the issue to the Community Team. Full disclosure: I'm part of the Community Team as is Steve Mcintyre who pops up here occasionally. The team will normally talk it over, decide what action to take and carry it out. That can be just an email off list to the person being difficult, a recommendation to block someone to go to the listmasters - anything seen as appropriate. Another way - which is quicker and easier in some ways - is to choose to ignore them for the sake of your own peace of mind. Not every post has to be replied to. Not everything demands a response about the character of the poster: even if it does, waiting a couple of hours to reply may always be a good idea. Others may post in the meantime and you may find that you no longer lead to post. All the very best to all, as ever, Andy Cater > -- > Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside > -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development > [Copied also to Community Team mail alias for their reference].
Re: runc CVEs in docker.io
On mercredi 4 août 2021 14:41:02 CEST Gareth Evans wrote: > > According to runc security tracker, a fixed runc is available for buster, > > albeit in buster's security repository. > > Thanks Dominique, do you have a link for this please? Sorry, my bad. I misread the report. All the best
Re: 'uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list'
Hi, On 2021-08-07 10:12 a.m., ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/7/21 5:05 PM, Brian wrote: >> uinsolicited >> advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list > > > : in total ?? : Zero unsolicited ?? > > Don't worry, Brian has knowledge and good ideas, sometime... But he doesn't have much aptitude with interacting with human, even when it's written message. He's much better with ELIZA. [1] > . > > rgds > > . > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']
Hi, On 2021-08-07 10:05 a.m., Brian wrote: > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 16:36:19 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > >> >> : https://www.merriam-webster.com/ > > [Snipped] > > The point of your posting appears to be to point out a user's > spelling mistake. Maybe he is grateful for the uinsolicited > advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list. Please > refrain. > Being irrelevant is considered bad manners in all community. So maybe you shall police yourself *before* looking to comment on others behavior. There's nothing *bad* in this explanation as it's only popular culture explained. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing hidden and no *angry mob* except maybe you that has the a limited tolerance. Don't worry, autistic type of person are loved on this list. We accept that for you it may be hard to understand all the magnitude behind act of language. -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
'uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list'
On 8/7/21 5:05 PM, Brian wrote: uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list : in total ?? : Zero unsolicited ?? . rgds .
Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much'
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 16:36:19 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > > : https://www.merriam-webster.com/ [Snipped] The point of your posting appears to be to point out a user's spelling mistake. Maybe he is grateful for the uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list. Please refrain. -- Brian.
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
Hi, On 2021-08-07 9:31 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Brian wrote: >> On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act >>> like you did it. >> >> Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and >> it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. > > I would never have blocked "Gunnar" based on an accusation that he > was trolling. > > I blocked him after he confessed that he was trolling. > I think that the line that was crossed simply mandate that he gets ignored by now. I did so with the last message he sent me yesterday (and posted on the list). Was a bunch of hard to follow series of sentence. But this confirm that it seems to be a choice done on having incomprehensible messages and loose talk, because he did write some clear and well written message. I feel that many person cherry pick one message, like the one I wrote and got out of context, talking about a Lynch mob. Often when someone ask for help, we'll answer back that there's information missing so we can answer properly. Example, the person say *I can't start X11* And we'll ask What version of Debian are you running ? What are the outputs ? Logs ? What's your graphic card / GPU ? etc... Why do we do so ? So our answer is relevant. Same rules apply when giving comment, if you want to have it relevant then look at the whole story. Or you'll only get a part and go off track. And it's exactly what happened here. We got someone who add a sentence relating to a lynch mob. Where it wasn't the case in no way. And those are the same person that are unable to justify what they say, but wanna benefit from free speech to add a point. *Dider*: There's some similarities between this dude and two others troller. *Dude*: You have no proof it's me *Dude*: You have no proof it's me... I post someone's Passport ID page. *Me*: Posting a passport id page is a criminal offense in most countries AND doesn't proof much, except maybe that you'd be dumb to post your own. *Greg* says : That's a for of guilt admission, not saying "I didn't do it" but saying "No proof". *Me* : Exactly, it's not a court of law here. So it's not about proof but about what will people get from what you say. *and now the best* *Irrelevant writer* : This is a acting mob looking for a lynch. I'd start to also call this some strange form of trolling. -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much'
: https://www.merriam-webster.com/ "variants: or less commonly hoo-hah Definition of hoo-ha informal : a state or condition of excitement, agitation, or disturbance : COMMOTION, UPROAR … she wore the jacket again … —wore it unapologetically knowing all the hoo-ha it had caused … — Vanessa Friedman "I remember one time there was a big hoo-hah about a rare bird." — Lee Child " . regards .
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > [...] > > > It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act > > like you did it. > > Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and > it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. I would never have blocked "Gunnar" based on an accusation that he was trolling. I blocked him after he confessed that he was trolling.
Re: Off request
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021, 1:34 AM ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/7/21 3:47 AM, Weaver wrote: > > `Analysis at a distance is the ultimate arrogance'. > > Cheers! > > > > Harry. > > > : spot-on : Well-Said! > Dr Sigmund Freud is not the enemy. Nor is Dr Carl Jung nor Dr Anna Freud. The enemy is Psychology Today magazine. And everything like it. Which includes American TV talk shows. > > regards > >
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
Hi, Colin Williams wrote: > http://ix.io/3vfj Where i read +++ sudo losetup --show -f /mnt/host/source/src/build/ima ges/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_07_0451-a1/chromiumos_base_ image.bin losetup: cannot find an unused loop device ++ lb_dev= ++ sudo losetup -l -a +++ sudo partx -v -d '' Now that kills the theory about all loop devices being occupied. I had a look into https://sources.debian.org/src/util-linux/2.36.1-7/sys-utils/losetup.c where i find two occurences of "cannot find an unused loop device" Each happens after a call to loopcxt_find_unused() at https://sources.debian.org/src/util-linux/2.36.1-7/lib/loopdev.c/#L1544 which seems to try two different methods to get the number of an unused loop device. No other external reason is to see for getting the losetup error message. Any theory about bad program parameters seems unlikely. -- Do you have a file /dev/loop-control ? What is listed by ls -ld /dev/loop* ? (/dev/loop files do not vanish after losetup -d. So if there are none, then it is likely that there never have been any.) -- What happens if you try to create a loop device manually ? not_yet_existing_file="some_file_path" dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=2 of="$not_yet_existing_file" sudo losetup loop0 "$not_yet_existing_file" There should be no messages from losetup. sudo wc -c
Re: Howto change of subjects [ was : Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian]
Hi, On 2021-08-07 7:12 a.m., Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 7/8/21 17:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> Then: why didn't*you* change the Subject: line in your reply? >> Your topic changed radically, so... please do > > Only because there was something of a who-ha when people do change > topics in stead of starting afresh. > It's quite easy to begin a new subject. Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much. > Next time. > > -- > All the best > > Keith Bainbridge > > keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com > 0447 667 468 > -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11
Hello all! See report here [1]. We have ~400 computers tested on Debian 11 at the moment. 10% of them are probed from LiveCDs, others are installed systems. The main goal of the report is to make sure that we have not lost support for any hardware configuration classes. To achieve this, I compared it with the similar report for Debian 10 [2] in order to find significant discrepancies. Good news that we've covered all hardware classes tested on Debian 10 and differences in statistical indicators are relatively small. Particularly, I don't see any noticeable regression in use of AMD or NVIDIA graphics cards [3]. Either affected graphics cards are rare or people do not have problems with installing additional firmware packages. Report details and logs (Xorg, dmesg, etc.) are available in the full-feature report [4]. Thanks to all for participating in the report! Looking forward to get more Debian hardware probes from the community to monitor hardware support status and trends. [1] https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/main/Dist/Debian_11 [2] https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/main/Dist/Debian_10 [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2021/04/msg00646.html [4] https://linux-hardware.org/?view=trends&rel=debian-11
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
Hi Thomas,
>The error message of losetup does not match this theory.
Re-reading http://ix.io/3v6K and it does appear that possibly
/mnt/src/host/ does exist based on some of the debugging output.
Thanks for making me look back. I made this "theory" on trying to `ls
/mnt/host/src/rc/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin`
after the script had been executed. I received an error the path
didn't exist. But perhaps it was cleaned up after the script finished
executing.
>Is there a hard reason why you don't show the output of losetup -l -a
I will now modify the script and also provide before and after below:
before:
(cr) ((b1688d0...)) colin@M00974055-VM ~/chromiumos/src/scripts $ losetup -l -a
-bash: losetup: command not found
(cr) ((b1688d0...)) colin@M00974055-VM ~/chromiumos/src/scripts $ sudo
losetup -l -a
(cr) ((b1688d0...)) colin@M00974055-VM ~/chromiumos/src/scripts $
no output appears
during:
I've added losetup here:
https://github.com/drocsid/cros-scripts/blob/feature/deb11-II/common.sh#L641
ourput after running ./build_image
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/docs/+/main/developer_guide.md#Build-a-disk-image-for-your-board
with above changes: http://ix.io/3vfj
after:
colin@M00974055-VM:~/chromiumos/src/scripts$ cat ~/losetup-error.txt |
curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
http://ix.io/3vfj
colin@M00974055-VM:~/chromiumos/src/scripts$ losetup -l -a
-bash: losetup: command not found
colin@M00974055-VM:~/chromiumos/src/scripts$ sudo losetup -l -a
[sudo] password for colin:
colin@M00974055-VM:~/chromiumos/src/scripts$
no output appears.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 1:19 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Colin Williams:
> > 3) When trying to create the loopback device the script tries to use a
> > path
> > /mnt/host/src/rc/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin
> > which does not exist
>
> The error message of losetup does not match this theory.
>
> Did you make sure that the file really does not exist when the losetup
> command fails ?
> E.g. by performing
> ls -ld "${image}"
> immediately before
> lb_dev=$(sudo losetup --show -f "$@" "${image}")
>
>
> > Let me know if I need to re-read your email.
>
> Is there a hard reason why you don't show the output of
>
> losetup -l -a
>
> before, after, and maybe during the script run ?
>
> (I'm not alone with this proposal. See
>https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00353.html
> which was not Cd'ed to you.
> )
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>
Re: Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian
On 7/8/21 17:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Then: why didn't*you* change the Subject: line in your reply? Your topic changed radically, so... please do Only because there was something of a who-ha when people do change topics in stead of starting afresh. Next time. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act > like you did it. Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. -- Brian.
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
Hi Thomas, It's not entirely clear that what I was trying to express was understood. Then in short: 1) A file ./src/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin is created 2) It seems that commands use a variable called GCLIENT_ROOT and it's value is set to /mnt/host/src 3) When trying to create the loopback device the script tries to use a path /mnt/host/src/rc/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin which does not exist 4) I'm stuck trying to figure out why GCLIENT_ROOT can't be set to the actual mounted filesystem path so that the image can be found and the loopback device created, etc. Then I assume I could create a block device use losetup with the correct path. So I'm debugging the script. There may be some details related to chroot and GCLIENT_ROOT that I don't understand. Let me know if I need to re-read your email. Best Regards On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:43 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > Colin Williams wrote: > > http://ix.io/3v3i > > At least this shows an impressive partition table. > (Among them 5 partitions of size 512 bytes.) > > > > http://ix.io/3v6K > > (Best to be downloaded and viewed in a text editor.) > > > > I believe the issues arise in > > https://github.com/drocsid/cros-scripts/blob/main/common.sh > > [...] > > +++ sudo losetup --show -f > > /mnt/host/source/src/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chrom > > iumos_base_image.bin > > losetup: cannot find an unused loop device > > According to the man page this aims for acquiring an existing but unused > loop device. But in my local experiments it also creates a new loop device > if all existing ones are occupied. > So this should work if new loop devices can be created at all. > > > > 10) The path > > /mnt/host/source/src/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin > > does not exist > > But > > sudo losetup --show -f non_existing_file_name > > yields > > losetup: non_existing_file_name: failed to set up loop device: No such file > or directory > > and not "cannot find an unused loop device". > > > So currently i think that at your point 10 your investigation left the road > to the loop device problem. > > You should in any case look how many loop devices are occupied before > your script run: > > losetup -l -a > > If this does not show a lot of devices, then you will have execute this > command at various places in the script in order to see how the list of > used loop devices evolves during the script run. > > > Have a nice day :) > > Thomas >
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
Hi,
Colin Williams:
> 3) When trying to create the loopback device the script tries to use a
> path
> /mnt/host/src/rc/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin
> which does not exist
The error message of losetup does not match this theory.
Did you make sure that the file really does not exist when the losetup
command fails ?
E.g. by performing
ls -ld "${image}"
immediately before
lb_dev=$(sudo losetup --show -f "$@" "${image}")
> Let me know if I need to re-read your email.
Is there a hard reason why you don't show the output of
losetup -l -a
before, after, and maybe during the script run ?
(I'm not alone with this proposal. See
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00353.html
which was not Cd'ed to you.
)
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian
On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 05:24:11PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 7/8/21 16:25, deloptes wrote: > >I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, Rishi and roa > >moshin (non-limitative list) are the same > > > Good afternoon All > > Should I change to subject? Yes, you should. Please do so when you do. > I've decided that perhaps an on-line forum may be the best way to deal > with people who appear to repeatedly ask incomplete questions. I mean, > if the question isn't in your inbox begging for an answer, it may be > easier to ignore the bait? This should actually go to a FAQ. It is frequently asked. > As several have said, a good subject line is the key to getting a > response. Then: why didn't *you* change the Subject: line in your reply? Your topic changed radically, so... please do :) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
Hi, Colin Williams wrote: > http://ix.io/3v3i At least this shows an impressive partition table. (Among them 5 partitions of size 512 bytes.) > http://ix.io/3v6K (Best to be downloaded and viewed in a text editor.) > I believe the issues arise in > https://github.com/drocsid/cros-scripts/blob/main/common.sh > [...] > +++ sudo losetup --show -f > /mnt/host/source/src/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chrom > iumos_base_image.bin > losetup: cannot find an unused loop device According to the man page this aims for acquiring an existing but unused loop device. But in my local experiments it also creates a new loop device if all existing ones are occupied. So this should work if new loop devices can be created at all. > 10) The path > /mnt/host/source/src/build/images/kukui/R94-14125.0.2021_08_05_1510-a1/chromiumos_base_image.bin > does not exist But sudo losetup --show -f non_existing_file_name yields losetup: non_existing_file_name: failed to set up loop device: No such file or directory and not "cannot find an unused loop device". So currently i think that at your point 10 your investigation left the road to the loop device problem. You should in any case look how many loop devices are occupied before your script run: losetup -l -a If this does not show a lot of devices, then you will have execute this command at various places in the script in order to see how the list of used loop devices evolves during the script run. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: losetup: cannot find an unused loop device , kernel config of loopback device
On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 09:48:29PM -0700, Colin Williams wrote: > Hello everyone, > > In hindsight after looking at this much too late there were many > mistakes in my initial mail. The issue may or may not be debian > related and involves at least analyzing the script. There is a claim > in the documentation that > > Then I'll make another attempt to further expose my ignorance. [...] I've rather the impression that you are trying to kill too many birds with one stone :) And, to be honest, I don't feel like debugging some random script off github :-) Why don't you first try to find out whether (a) loopback is working on your running machine and (b) not all of your available loopback devices are exhausted? I think I posted some proposals already here [1]. Cheers [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00248.html -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OFFTPIC] How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On 7/8/21 16:25, deloptes wrote: I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, Rishi and roa moshin (non-limitative list) are the same Good afternoon All Should I change to subject? I've been mulling over this situation as I wondered along our river. I recall a discussion maybe 3 years ago, where somebody put a proposal to move the lists to a what sounded like a forum-style. my only comment was that I'm not good at going to fora to answer questions - even to look for answers to my own questions a couple of times. I've decided that perhaps an on-line forum may be the best way to deal with people who appear to repeatedly ask incomplete questions. I mean, if the question isn't in your inbox begging for an answer, it may be easier to ignore the bait? As several have said, a good subject line is the key to getting a response. On the odd occasion I go looking at a forum, I am fussy which topics I open. Some I clearly won't know the answer; some are not inviting enough to tempt me. I find it harder to flick email as easily as I skip a forum topic. So, maybe half a vote for a forum for we general users. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly
On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:57:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-06 4:24 p.m., Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 12:25:52PM -0400, Polyna-Maude > > Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> Actually, the message you sent would have been sent only to yourself in > >> the reply if I wouldn't have took the time to add the mailing list as CC. > > > > OK, let's explore why. > > > > According to your User-Agent header, you are using the MUA Thunderbird. > > > > According to the description you just wrote about the behaviour of > > replying, it would NOT have replied to the list, but directly to Tomas. :-) (but see below) > The "reply list" button was exactly in my face. > Just discovered it's existence. > > I'll now use this one. To be honest I get that wrong from time to time, too (not Thunderbird, but Mutt, so it's not a button, but a keyboard shortcut, but the functionalities are roughly equivalent). Mutt gives me a second chance, because I /see/ the headers the mail is going to be sent with right there in my edit buffer, but sometimes fatigue and muscle memory take over. Alas, and apologies. Nobody's perfect :) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
