Re: Switching desktops at the command line
Le lundi 28 novembre 2022 à 16:34 -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com a écrit : > Folks: > > Assume some desktop environment like LXQt. Is there a way to change > desktops (as in 1, 2, 3...) at the command line? I'm looking to use > something like sxhkd to do this, but the only examples of this type > of > thing I can find are related to bspwm, which has its own > infrastructure. Is there some Xorg or freedesktop type functionality > I > can use? > > Paul > Hello, I have never used it but I suppose wmctrl -s would do: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/wmctrl/
Re: Startup Ethernet instability
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 19:31:06 -0800 Matthew McAllister wrote: > 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8125 > 2.5GbE Controller (rev 05) First question: do you have the firmware-realtek package installed? -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: Switching desktops at the command line
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 16:34:56 -0500 wrote: > Folks: > > Assume some desktop environment like LXQt. Is there a way to change > desktops (as in 1, 2, 3...) at the command line? I'm looking to use > something like sxhkd to do this, but the only examples of this type of > thing I can find are related to bspwm, which has its own > infrastructure. Is there some Xorg or freedesktop type functionality I > can use? > > Paul > For those interested, you can install the "wmctrl" package, then run wmctrl -s . There might be a dbus command which does this, but I finally found the above and tested it. Paul -- Paul M. Foster Personal Blog: http://noferblatz.com Company Site: http://quillandmouse.com Software Projects: https://gitlab.com/paulmfoster
Startup Ethernet instability
Greetings, I'm running bookworm and I have an odd issue with a new desktop computer. Every time I boot, the Ethernet controller will repeatedly turn off and on again for several minutes. Here is a snippet of what this looks like in dmesg: [ 273.008517] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Down [ 276.628821] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx [ 277.681025] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Down [ 281.320201] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx [ 282.370330] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Down [ 286.273750] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx And a snippet of the syslog: 2022-11-28T18:59:26.477907-08:00 cockpit kernel: [ 167.861718] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx 2022-11-28T18:59:27.375761-08:00 cockpit systemd-timesyncd[933]: Contacted time server [2600:2600::199]:123 (2.debian.pool.ntp.org). 2022-11-28T18:59:27.525388-08:00 cockpit kernel: [ 168.912726] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Down 2022-11-28T18:59:29.210368-08:00 cockpit dhclient[4484]: DHCPDISCOVER on eno1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17 2022-11-28T18:59:31.139410-08:00 cockpit NetworkManager[1035]: [1669690771.1391] device (eno1): carrier: link connected 2022-11-28T18:59:31.141405-08:00 cockpit kernel: [ 172.526366] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx 2022-11-28T18:59:32.189388-08:00 cockpit kernel: [ 173.576860] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Down 2022-11-28T18:59:35.951220-08:00 cockpit NetworkManager[1035]: [1669690775.9509] device (eno1): carrier: link connected 2022-11-28T18:59:35.953645-08:00 cockpit kernel: [ 177.337818] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx 2022-11-28T18:59:37.005374-08:00 cockpit kernel: [ 178.392000] r8169 :05:00.0 eno1: Link is Down The problem mysteriously vanishes about 5 minutes after booting. So far, nothing seems to mitigate the issue, e.g. I've tried bringing eno1 down and up again. I'm guessing this is a hardware issue, but there are no errors in dmesg. Maybe it's NetworkManager-related? Relevant hardware info: 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8125 2.5GbE Controller (rev 05) 06:00.0 Network controller: MEDIATEK Corp. MT7921K (RZ608) Wi-Fi 6E 80MHz Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes System Information Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Product Name: B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 Version: Default string Serial Number: Default string UUID: 035e02d8-04d3-058e-6a06-550700080009 Wake-up Type: Power Switch SKU Number: Default string Family: B550 MB Handle 0x, DMI type 0, 26 bytes BIOS Information Vendor: American Megatrends International, LLC. Version: F16d Release Date: 07/20/2022 Address: 0xF Runtime Size: 64 kB ROM Size: 32 MB Characteristics: PCI is supported BIOS is upgradeable BIOS shadowing is allowed Boot from CD is supported Selectable boot is supported BIOS ROM is socketed EDD is supported Japanese floppy for NEC 9800 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h) Japanese floppy for Toshiba 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h) 5.25"/360 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 3.5"/720 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) Print screen service is supported (int 5h) Serial services are supported (int 14h) Printer services are supported (int 17h) CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h) USB legacy is supported BIOS boot specification is supported Targeted content distribution is supported UEFI is supported BIOS Revision: 5.17 Any ideas for looking into this will be appreciated. Thank you! Matthew
Re: Grub issue
On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 05:12, Andrew Wood wrote: > Hi Can someone help me with a Grub problem please. > > I have 2 disks in a RAID1 mirrror with 2 partitions. sda1 & sdb1 = md0 > swap parition and sda2 & sdb2 = md1 root parition. The disks are MBR > style partitiions. > > For some reason Grub has got corrupted on both and it wont boot. > > Ive tried running the following at the grub prompt > > ls (hd0,msdos2) > > which says file system is ext2 > > set boot=(hd0,msdos2) > > set prefix=(hd0,msdos2)/boot/grub > > insmod normal > > error: file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found > > Can anyone please help me restore the MBR to both disks? Hi, Restoring the MBR requires running 'grub-install', which needs a running system. You could try using some external rescue filesystem to boot. Alternatively, you can try booting its internal file system, as below. Can you confirm that you are entering commands at the prompt that looks like: grub rescue> That identifies the GRUB rescue shell, which is different to the normal GRUB shell. The first command that I would use is a bare 'set' with no arguments. grub rescue> set which will show GRUB's initial configuration that it uses when it first fails to read the disk. Can you show us that output? Do not use any other 'set' commands before trying the following. The GRUB rescue shell supports tab completion, which can be used to interactively explore what GRUB is able to read off the disk at any time. For example, at the 'grub rescue>' prompt, you only need to type ls ( followed by a TAB, and GRUB will display the list of drives. You should be able to use tab completion 3 times (once for drive, partition, directory) to get to this: grub rescue> ls (hd0,msdos2)/boot/ What happens then when you press the TAB key? You should expect that GRUB offers '(hd0,msdos2)/boot/grub' before you try to use that string to 'set' the 'prefix' value. This method can be used to explore what GRUB is able to see inside the file systems that are available to it. 'prefix' value is what you would have to 'set' correctly so that the 'insmod normal' command will work, which is what you would need to progress you out of the GRUB rescue shell and into the normal GRUB shell. If you can't do that, the GRUB rescue shell also accepts 'linux', 'initrd', and 'boot' commands. You can also use TAB completion to assist with getting those correct and be sure that GRUB can find any file paths you specify. You will also need to specify whatever other kernel commandline parameters are needed. 'root' value is just to save typing. It just specifies what a leading '/' means in any file path that does not begin with a device. I expect that this method can also be used to explore the second disk in your RAID. Use 'hd1' instead of 'hd0'. I wrote this from memory and some personal notes, I hope it helps.
Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 10:04:33 +0100 "B.M." wrote: > I'm going to buy a Dell Precision 3570 laptop in the next couple of > weeks. Since it's a Build Your Own device, I can order it with Ubuntu > 20.04 LTS pre- installed instead of paying for an never used Win 11 > :-) > > Since all our other computers are happily running Debian, I'd like to > replace this Ubuntu by Debian Testing (later Bookworm). Have you looked at Linux Hardware? They have one report for this make & model, using Debian 11 (Bullseye). It looks encouraging. https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=f4f047eecf -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: Debian mirror size
Georgi Naplatanov writes: On 11/28/22 21:36, krys...@ibse.cz wrote: Hello everyone, I have setup debian mirror using official archvsync script suite. Mirrored architectures are: all source i386 amd64. The rest of config for ftp-sync is kept on default values. Everything seems to work fine - only problem is that the mirror is too small, at least according to this website: 'www.debian.org/mirror/size'. Sum of sizes for these architectures is 1488GiB (give or take, data are changing every day), but I have only 930GiB I have a local mirror here, too (using ftpsync scripts) and it takes 1.1T (1088 GiB) according to `du -sh` for architectures: all, amd64, armhf, i386, source. I thus conclude that maybe it is OK for the mirror to be smaller than the listed mirror sizes? This local mirror has been serving me well for a few years already :) Just a data point if it matters. HTH Linux-Fan öö pgpg11BuQjOVp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 32 Go de stockage sont ils suffisant
--- Original Message --- Le dimanche 27 novembre 2022 à 10:50, Jean-Marc a écrit : > > > salut, > > Le 27/11/22 à 10:23, Olivier backup my spare a écrit : > > > Je voudrais installer Debian sur un eeePC pour en faire un dns local sur > > mon reseau à la maison. > > Je ne dispose que de 32Go d'espace de stockage. > > C'est mort où en bricolant un peu (ce qui ne m'effraie pas) ca pourrait > > marcher? > > > Installer une Debian minimale pour faire tourner un serveur DNS doit > tenir sur moins d'1Gb. Oui mais le noyau debian avec tous ces modules c'est un peu "overkill" juste pour un DNS. J'ai monté un point d'accès il y a 2 jours avec la distrib openwrt sur un portable sans disque dur. L'image de base fait 128 Mo donc j'ai utilisé une clé usb2 de 256Mo comme espace de stockage. J'ai dû booter une fois la clé sur un autre PC avec une carte réseau standard pour installer les modules des cartes ethernet et wifi atheros. Bind y est disponible sous forme de package donc je l'ai installé pour voir : root@OpenWrt:~# ps | grep bind 21963 bind 26832 S/usr/sbin/named -u bind -f -c /etc/bind/named.conf 23343 root 1120 Sgrep bind root@OpenWrt:~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/root 102.3M 38.9M 61.3M 39% / tmpfs 797.2M 1.2M796.0M 0% /tmp /dev/sda116.0M 5.7M 10.2M 36% /boot /dev/sda116.0M 5.7M 10.2M 36% /boot tmpfs 512.0K 0512.0K 0% /dev root@OpenWrt:~# free -m totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem:1632696 33420 15636961196 35580 1550064 Swap: 0 0 0 root@OpenWrt:~# uptime 17:51:51 up 2 days, 9:52, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.02 root@OpenWrt:~# uname -a Linux OpenWrt 5.10.146 #0 SMP Fri Oct 14 22:44:41 2022 x86_64 GNU/Linux Donc là on est à 128 Mo d'espace requis et il n'en utilise pas la moitié. C'est un petit portable sony équipé d'un AMD E-450 2 cœurs à 1.6 GHz dont il manque le disque dur et dont le clavier ne fonctionne plus. Il consomme peu (15W environ). Donc oui, 32 Go sont amplement suffisant pour un serveur DNS bind, même avec une distribution orientée desktop comme debian. En réalité c'est plus de 500 fois le stricte nécessaire puisqu'avec openwrt ça tient dans 45 Mo... Ce serait même suffisant pour un windows serveur avec le rôle DNS ! @+ Hugues publickey - hlarrive@pm.me - 0xE9429B87.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Switching desktops at the command line
Folks: Assume some desktop environment like LXQt. Is there a way to change desktops (as in 1, 2, 3...) at the command line? I'm looking to use something like sxhkd to do this, but the only examples of this type of thing I can find are related to bspwm, which has its own infrastructure. Is there some Xorg or freedesktop type functionality I can use? Paul -- Paul M. Foster Personal Blog: http://noferblatz.com Company Site: http://quillandmouse.com Software Projects: https://gitlab.com/paulmfoster
Re: Debian mirror size
I did not know about this mailing list, my mistake. Subscribing and resending. Thank you and sorry for offtopic question. Best regards, KS Dne pondělí 28. listopadu 2022 22:05:31 CET, Georgi Naplatanov napsal(a): > On 11/28/22 21:36, krys...@ibse.cz wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I have setup debian mirror using official archvsync script suite. Mirrored > > architectures are: all source i386 amd64. The rest of config for ftp-sync > > is kept on default values. Everything seems to work fine - only problem is > > that the mirror is too small, at least according to this website: > > 'www.debian.org/mirror/size'. Sum of sizes for these architectures is > > 1488GiB (give or take, data are changing every day), but I have only 930GiB > > stored on disk dedicated for mirror. There is no filesystem level > > encryption involved (ext4) or anything like that. There should be no > > problem with master mirror (ftp.debian.cz), since I have tried multiple > > different ones with no difference. Are installation image sizes included in > > these architecture sizes? If not, what makes the difference? > > > > And one last thing - everywhere is recommended not to sync > > 'security.debian.org/debian-security' for security reasons. I understand > > why, but are packages in this repository rotated into regular debian > > repository after a while? Just curious, since I do have some offline > > machines I update from my local repository. > > > > Hi, > > I think that list is more appropriate for your questions - > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ > > > Kind regards > Georgi
Re: Debian mirror size
On 11/28/22 21:36, krys...@ibse.cz wrote: Hello everyone, I have setup debian mirror using official archvsync script suite. Mirrored architectures are: all source i386 amd64. The rest of config for ftp-sync is kept on default values. Everything seems to work fine - only problem is that the mirror is too small, at least according to this website: 'www.debian.org/mirror/size'. Sum of sizes for these architectures is 1488GiB (give or take, data are changing every day), but I have only 930GiB stored on disk dedicated for mirror. There is no filesystem level encryption involved (ext4) or anything like that. There should be no problem with master mirror (ftp.debian.cz), since I have tried multiple different ones with no difference. Are installation image sizes included in these architecture sizes? If not, what makes the difference? And one last thing - everywhere is recommended not to sync 'security.debian.org/debian-security' for security reasons. I understand why, but are packages in this repository rotated into regular debian repository after a while? Just curious, since I do have some offline machines I update from my local repository. Hi, I think that list is more appropriate for your questions - https://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ Kind regards Georgi
Debian mirror size
Hello everyone, I have setup debian mirror using official archvsync script suite. Mirrored architectures are: all source i386 amd64. The rest of config for ftp-sync is kept on default values. Everything seems to work fine - only problem is that the mirror is too small, at least according to this website: 'www.debian.org/mirror/size'. Sum of sizes for these architectures is 1488GiB (give or take, data are changing every day), but I have only 930GiB stored on disk dedicated for mirror. There is no filesystem level encryption involved (ext4) or anything like that. There should be no problem with master mirror (ftp.debian.cz), since I have tried multiple different ones with no difference. Are installation image sizes included in these architecture sizes? If not, what makes the difference? And one last thing - everywhere is recommended not to sync 'security.debian.org/debian-security' for security reasons. I understand why, but are packages in this repository rotated into regular debian repository after a while? Just curious, since I do have some offline machines I update from my local repository. Thank you for yor answers. Best regards, KS
Re: Configuration conseillée de la console d'un serveur
Bonjour Olivier, Olivier, on 2022-11-28: > J'ai dernièrement installé un serveur Bullseye. > Je m'y connecte très sporadiquement en direct (VGA/DVI + clavier) et > par SSH le reste du temps. > > Je me rends aujourd'hui que sur ce serveur, les espaces insécables > (produits par apt, par exemple) sont mal affichés en SSH (à la place > de l'espace j'ai un caractère à la noix) mais correctement affichés > quand je me connecte en direct (VGA+clavier). > > Avez-vous une documentation de référence sur la configuration de la > console d'un serveur (sans interface graphique) ? Le réglage manquant n'est peut-être pas que du côté de la console système. L'environnement de lancement du terminal qui lui même va lancer le client ssh peut interférer. Si je lance un xterm sans support de l'utf-8, j'ai: $ DEBFULLNAME='Étienne Mollier' LANG=C xterm [… changement de fenêtre …] (C)$ echo "$DEBFULLNAME" Ãtienne Mollier Alors qu'avec support d'utf-8, j'observe plutôt: $ DEBFULLNAME='Étienne Mollier' LANG=C.UTF-8 xterm [… changement de fenêtre …] (C.UTF-8)$ echo "$DEBFULLNAME" Étienne Mollier Je ne sais pas si c'est bien ça le problème, mais si ça peut donner une piste… Bonne journée, :) -- Étienne Mollier Fingerprint: 8f91 b227 c7d6 f2b1 948c 8236 793c f67e 8f0d 11da Sent from /dev/pts/2, please excuse my verbosity. On air: RPWL - 3 Lights signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Grub issue
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022, Andrew Wood wrote: Hi Can someone help me with a Grub problem please. I have 2 disks in a RAID1 mirrror with 2 partitions. sda1 & sdb1 = md0 swap parition and sda2 & sdb2 = md1 root parition. The disks are MBR style partitiions. For some reason Grub has got corrupted on both and it wont boot. Ive tried running the following at the grub prompt ls (hd0,msdos2) which says file system is ext2 set boot=(hd0,msdos2) set prefix=(hd0,msdos2)/boot/grub insmod normal error: file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found Can anyone please help me restore the MBR to both disks? can you boot and not worry about the grub menu for now? Something like: (sorry, I do this so rarely that I can only give approximate commands. grub should have filename completion to help) root=(hd0,msdos2) linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-22-686-pae root=/dev/md1 initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-22-686-pae boot once it's booted you can then grub-install /dev/sda and sdb and hopefully fix things. (obviously use the right kernel/initrd that you have in /boot and not something I've copied randomly)
Grub issue
Hi Can someone help me with a Grub problem please. I have 2 disks in a RAID1 mirrror with 2 partitions. sda1 & sdb1 = md0 swap parition and sda2 & sdb2 = md1 root parition. The disks are MBR style partitiions. For some reason Grub has got corrupted on both and it wont boot. Ive tried running the following at the grub prompt ls (hd0,msdos2) which says file system is ext2 set boot=(hd0,msdos2) set prefix=(hd0,msdos2)/boot/grub insmod normal error: file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found Can anyone please help me restore the MBR to both disks? Thanks Andrew
Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:04:33AM +0100, B.M. wrote: > Hi, > Hi Bernd, > I'm going to buy a Dell Precision 3570 laptop in the next couple of weeks. > Since it's a Build Your Own device, I can order it with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre- > installed instead of paying for an never used Win 11 :-) > > Since all our other computers are happily running Debian, I'd like to replace > this Ubuntu by Debian Testing (later Bookworm). I've already decided to run it > on a single btrfs partition and learn something about subvolumes... I assume > the machine should work well - but who knows? How would you proceed? > Although Testing will start the freeze process within a couple of months, I'd suggest running on Debian Bullseye at least for the moment - there will be a bunch of change in Testing before the freeze. I would definitely install using the currently unnofficial installer including non-free firmware as this will make your life a whole lot easier from the outset. > a) leave it running Ubuntu forever > b) replace Ubuntu by Debian, fiddling around issues if there are any later > c) resize the partition, install Debian side-by-side, check than if anything > works as expected > d) analyze the installed system (how?) to find out any special configs etc. > before replacing Ubuntu by Debian > e) other... > This depends very much on the size of the included NVME. If you feel confident to do so, I'd also recommend replacing the included NVME with a larger one. This will (potentially) void the warranty, but, as others have said, it also means that you preserve the original OS intact and can swap it back if necessary. If you choose to do this, do it *before* you boot up the laptop/put the new NVME in a case and boot to it first without ever touching the Dell provided NVME. > Thank you for your ideas. > > Have a nice day, > Bernd > > PS: Please cc me, since I'm not regularly subscribed to the list > > Good luck with it all - if it is brand new hardware, do let us know of any problems / put together a wiki page for DebianOn With every good wish, as ever, Andy Cater
Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
B.M. writes: I'm going to buy a Dell Precision 3570 laptop in the next couple of weeks. Since it's a Build Your Own device, I can order it with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre- [...] the machine should work well - but who knows? How would you proceed? [...] b) replace Ubuntu by Debian, fiddling around issues if there are any later [...] d) analyze the installed system (how?) to find out any special configs etc. before replacing Ubuntu by Debian [...] My approach would be to combine d + b of sorts: 1. First start up from a Debian Live system. Check that it boots OK. 2. Then create a copy of the installed Ubuntu system (either `dd` or `tar` depending on your preferences) and store the copy at a network location or attach an external USB drive for the purpose. 3. Then install Debian replacing the existent Ubuntu installation. 4. If something specific does not work and cannot be made working by installing non-free / proprietary graphics drivers etc. then the previously created copy can be analyzed to find out if Dell's Ubuntu does something special/differently. 5. In case of hardware warranty issues etc. you can bring back the original Ubuntu just in case Dell insists on having that present for error error analysis. Once the device goes out of warranty, you could delete the old Ubuntu copy from whatever storage you saved it to. Alternatively, with most Dell Precision machines, it should be possible to order a “keep your hard drive” service that allows you to send-in a device for warranty without having to hand-back the system drive. Not sure if it is viable in this case, though. HTH Linux-Fan öö pgp8bgSj1YVdv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
Hi, B.M. wrote: > Since all our other computers are happily running Debian, I'd like to replace > this Ubuntu by Debian Testing (later Bookworm). I've already decided to run it > on a single btrfs partition and learn something about subvolumes... I assume > the machine should work well - but who knows? How would you proceed? > [...] > b) replace Ubuntu by Debian, fiddling around issues if there are any later [...] Yes. This would be my way. I would replace the include NVMe by larger, similar one, and install Debian Bullseye on it. Because this URL confirms, that Debian Bullseye is working without issues, if you can have access to the Linux firmware, like by USB stick. https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Precision%203570%20%28bullseye%29 Therefore I would replace the NVMe by a similar, larger one. Have a look into the "Precision 3570 Setup und technische Daten" document, which can be found a the Dell website, for all the technical details for the NVMe (table 13 + 14). https://dl.dell.com/content/manual56242967-precision-3570-setup-und-technische-daten.pdf?language=de-de=true Then replace it, like it is described in the Precision 3570 Service handbook, found again at the Dell website. https://dl.dell.com/content/manual55813596-precision-3570-servicehandbuch.pdf?language=de-de=true If you fear, that you will still need the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and need the access to it, install old NVMe into a NVMe case with an external USB connection. But, as said above, Debian Bullseye should work without any adaption. Good luck. Regards, Klaus. -- Klaus Singvogel GnuPG-Key-ID: 1024R/5068792D 1994-06-27
Re: Debian-Installer: clavier US ou configuration manuelle ?
Le Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:23:25 +0100, Olivier a écrit : > Mes options: > A. acheter un clavier Qwerty > B. configurer l'installeur Debian pour qu'il me permette dès le > départ, la saisie de l'URL avec un clavier Azerty. C. Acheter un clavier avec les touches blanches, comme ça tu ne sera pas tenté de regarder tes doigts ce qui ralentis la frappe Paf ! (>_<)○--(^o^)○ Plaisanterie a part, un clavier AZERTY et QWERTY ou йцукен sont totalement identiques hormis les dessins sur les touches... et le prix à l'achat ! (enfoirés!) Pour les cacactères spéciaux dans un mot de passe non affiché, c'est plus compliqué, mais il y a peu de changement a mémoriser : - AZQW - Le M sur la virgule - les chiffres sans appuyer sur Majuscule - la ponctuation ( le . plus à droite etc) Le plus confortable consiste quand même a configurer le clavier pour l'installation, ce que fait l'installateur standard.
Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
On 11/28/22 11:04, B.M. wrote: Hi, I'm going to buy a Dell Precision 3570 laptop in the next couple of weeks. Since it's a Build Your Own device, I can order it with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre- installed instead of paying for an never used Win 11 :-) Since all our other computers are happily running Debian, I'd like to replace this Ubuntu by Debian Testing (later Bookworm). I've already decided to run it on a single btrfs partition and learn something about subvolumes... I assume the machine should work well - but who knows? How would you proceed? a) leave it running Ubuntu forever b) replace Ubuntu by Debian, fiddling around issues if there are any later c) resize the partition, install Debian side-by-side, check than if anything works as expected d) analyze the installed system (how?) to find out any special configs etc. before replacing Ubuntu by Debian e) other... Hi, it seems that the laptop has 2 Type A USB ports so if I was you, I would put two flash drives in them - one with Debian installer and one empty. In this way you can install Debian on second flash drive. Once Debian is installed on second flash drive, you'll be able to check whether all controllers work properly on Debian. If anything doesn't work properly you can always boot Ubuntu from the SSD and check there what configuration is. When everything is configured on Debian and you are sure you can repeat installation and configuration, you can run Debian installer again and install Debian on the internal SSD. Kind regards Georgi
Re: Copier plusieurs ISO sur une clé USB pour installer Debian
Oui il suffit de copier les ISO sur la clé, après avoir vérifié leur intégrité.
Voici ce que j'ai pour l'instant sur ma clé Ventoy
sdd 8:48 1 28,9G 0 disk
├─sdd1 8:49 1 28,9G 0 part /media/jean/Ventoy
└─sdd2 8:50 1 32M 0 part
jean@jebede:/media/jean/Ventoy$ ls -al
total 4272740
drwxr-xr-x 3 jean jean 32768 28 nov. 15:32 .
drwxr-x---+ 4 root root 4096 28 nov. 15:32 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jean jean 395313152 30 sept. 2021 debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jean jean 494927872 30 sept. 2021
firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jean jean 2162147328 30 sept. 2021
linuxmint-20.2-cinnamon-64bit.iso
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jean jean 1322811392 14 févr. 2022 q4os-4.7-x64.r1.iso
drwxr-xr-x 2 jean jean 32768 15 févr. 2022 'System Volume Information'
jean@jebede:/media/jean/Ventoy$
- Mail original -
> De: "Olivier"
> À: "ML Debian User French"
> Envoyé: Lundi 28 Novembre 2022 08:29:19
> Objet: Re: Copier plusieurs ISO sur une clé USB pour installer Debian
> Je n'ai testé la clé USV avec ventoy+installeur Debian que sur une
> seule machine.
> J'ai ensuite supprimé l'installeur Debian de la clé USB.
> Quand j'insère la clé sur mon propre PC, elle se monte
> automatiquement et j'ai :
> $ lsblk
> ...
> sdb 8:16 1 7,5G 0 disk
> ├─sdb1 8:17 1 7,4G 0 part /media/olivier/Ventoy
> └─sdb2 8:18 1 32M 0 part
> $ ls -l /media/olivier/Ventoy
> total 747520
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 olivier olivier 765460480 25 nov. 14:24
> systemrescue-9.05-amd64.iso
> 1. Faut-il bien copier par un simple cp, chaque fichier .ISO dans le
> répertoire /media/olivier/Ventoy ?
> 2. Le fichier [1] est-il une exception ?
> [1]
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.5.0+nonfree/multi-arch/iso-cd/firmware-11.5.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso
> Le sam. 26 nov. 2022 à 13:18, Luc Schimpf a écrit :
> >
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > J'utilise multisystem quasi quotidiennement, l'UEFI passe sans
> > souci
> > aujourd'hui.
> > http://liveusb.info/
> >
> >
> > Le 26/11/2022 à 12:08, Pierre Malard a écrit :
> > > Salut,
> > >
> > > Perso j’utilisais Multi-System de Lea-Linux
> > > (https://lea-linux.org/documentations/MultiSystem-LiveUSB-MultiBoot)
> > > lorsque je m’occupais de ça. Ça fonctionne très bien, c’est
> > > simple
> > > d’utilisation, c’est intégré dans et pour Debian et, en plus,
> > > c’est
> > > français. La seule limite que je connaissais à l’époque c’est
> > > qu’il ne
> > > connaissait pas l’UEFI.
> > >
> > > Franchement c’est un bon produit
> > >
> > >> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 10:08, Jean Bernon a écrit :
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Est-ce que tu as ce problème seulement sur certaines machines ?
> > >>
> > >>> De: "Jean Bernon"
> > >>> À: "ML Debian User French"
> > >>>
> > >>> Envoyé: Samedi 26 Novembre 2022 10:06:18
> > >>> Objet: Re: Copier plusieurs ISO sur une clé USB pour installer
> > >>> Debian
> > >>
> > >>> Nous utilisons Ventoy lors des ateliers d'installation de Linux
> > >>> pour
> > >>> donner le choix de sa distribution à la personne qui veut
> > >>> l'installer. Ça fonctionne très bien. Je pense que l'erreur que
> > >>> tu
> > >>> signales signifie que ta clé Ventoy est mal configurée.
> > >>> J'essaierais
> > >>> simplement de la reconfigurer complètement.
> > >>> Jean
> > >>
> > >>> https://aldi4.org
> > >>
> > De: "Olivier"
> > À: "ML Debian User French"
> >
> > Envoyé: Vendredi 25 Novembre 2022 18:45:13
> > Objet: Copier plusieurs ISO sur une clé USB pour installer
> > Debian
> > >>
> > Bonjour,
> > >>
> > Est-il possible de:
> > >>
> > 1. copier plusieurs ISO de Debian (Bullseye, ..) ou linux
> > (system
> > rescue) sur une clé USB sur laquelle on a préalablement
> > installé
> > Ventoy
> > >>
> > 2. booter sur l'installeur de son choix (parmi ceux copiés)
> > via
> > l'interface de Ventoy
> > >>
> > J'ai fait quelques essais pour installer Debian sur des
> > machines HP
> > mais sans succès ("Invalid firmware").
> > >>
> > Slts
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pierre Malard
> > >
> > > « /L'émancipation politique doit marcher de pair avec
> > > l'émancipation/
> > > / sociale ou les résultats sont désastreux /»
> > > Romain Gary - "Les racines du ciel"
> > > |\ _,,,---,,_
> > > /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_
> > > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'
> > > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) πr
> > >
> > > perl -e '$_=q#: 3|\ 5_,3-3,2_: 3/,`.'"'"'`'"'"' 5-. ;-;;,_: |,A-
> > > )
> > > )-,_. ,\ ( `'"'"'-'"'"': '"'"'-3'"'"'2(_/--'"'"' `-'"'"'\_):
> > > 24πr::#;y#:#\n#;s#(\D)(\d+)#$1x$2#ge;print'
> > > - --> Ce message n’engage que son auteur <--
> > >
> >
Re: Debian-Installer: clavier US ou configuration manuelle ?
Le 28/11/2022 à 09:23, Olivier a écrit : 2. Si la piste logicielle est impraticable, quel clavier choisir pour qu'il me soit le plus utile possible (que je puisse un jour l'utiliser comme clavier principal avec e accentué, etc ...) ? Je ne sais pas si la piste logicielle est praticable. Pour la piste matérielle, n'importe quel clavier qwerty pour pouvoir taper en qwerty au démarrage de ton installeur, et ensuite pour l'utiliser en clavier de tous les jours apprendre le bépo et taper dessus en bépo. Ça veut dire que tu tapera en bépo sur un clavier qwerty, mais l'agencement bépo étant facile a apprendre par cœur, ça ne pose aucun problème, même pour les touches qu'on utilise pas souvent genre Ç œ æ etc…
Re: Starting Tomcat 10 at bootup
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 11:46 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > ... > In systemd.service(5) you'll find a description of the basic types of > services that can be started. The one you want is called "forking". > > Type=forking > > You'll need to read and understand the systemd documentation *and* the > tomcat documentation, and find a combination of the two that can coexist. > This may mean researching this catalina.sh script and looking for options > to make it do what systemd expects. > > More likely it will mean finding a tomcat support mailing list, and asking > the people *there* how they made it start. > > I'd be shocked if there isn't already someone out there with a functioning > systemd unit file to start your version of tomcat properly. Looking through Tomcat's GitHub, I cannot find a sample systemd unit. Hmm... But there are lots of sample systemd units out there, like https://gist.github.com/drmalex07/e6e99dad070a78d5dab24ff3ae032ed1 . Or more generally, https://www.google.com/search?q=tomcat+systemd+service+file . And you were correct - they are forking. Jeff
Re: Request for Libjasper package
On maandag 28 november 2022 11:24:03 (+01:00), YOKESWARY ANEBARASSANE wrote: Hi team, Kindly provide me with guidelines to install libjasper-dev package for Debian 11 arm64, as I am unable to locate the package from the Debian website's repository. Appreciate your positive response on the issue, thanks in advance. Regards, Yokeswary Anebarassane Puducherry Technological University libjasper isn't part of Debian any more: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/jasper There is, however, a request to include the package again. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=862727 A kind person maintains an older version of the packages here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/binaries/home:npreining:debian-kde:other-deps/jasper/Debian_11
Re: Configuration conseillée de la console d'un serveur
Le lien [1] recommande de choisir None afin de ne pas perturber les connexions SSH, ce qui est très bien. Comment faire pour conserver cette propriété (faciliter le SSH) tout en aidant les connexions directes ? [1] https://wiki.debian.org/Locale Le lun. 28 nov. 2022 à 12:10, Olivier a écrit : > > # locale > LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_TIME="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_PAPER="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_NAME="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_ADDRESS="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_TELEPHONE="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="fr_FR.UTF-8" > LC_ALL= > > > > # printenv > SHELL=/bin/bash > PWD=/etc/default > LOGNAME=root > XDG_SESSION_TYPE=tty > MOTD_SHOWN=pam > HOME=/root > LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 > SSH_CONNECTION=192.168.1.181 59980 192.168.1.119 22 > XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user > TERM=xterm-256color > USER=root > SHLVL=1 > XDG_SESSION_ID=3 > XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/0 > SSH_CLIENT=192.168.1.181 59980 22 > PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin > SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0 > _=/usr/bin/printenv > OLDPWD=/root > > Le lun. 28 nov. 2022 à 10:42, Basile Starynkevitch > a écrit : > > > > > > On 11/28/22 08:38, Olivier wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > J'ai dernièrement installé un serveur Bullseye. > > > Je m'y connecte très sporadiquement en direct (VGA/DVI + clavier) et > > > par SSH le reste du temps. > > > > > > > > Quelle est la sortie des commandes printenv et locale? > > > > > > -- > > Basile Starynkevitch > > (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement) > > 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France > > web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/ > >
Re: Configuration conseillée de la console d'un serveur
# locale LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_TIME="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_NAME="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_ALL= # printenv SHELL=/bin/bash PWD=/etc/default LOGNAME=root XDG_SESSION_TYPE=tty MOTD_SHOWN=pam HOME=/root LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SSH_CONNECTION=192.168.1.181 59980 192.168.1.119 22 XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user TERM=xterm-256color USER=root SHLVL=1 XDG_SESSION_ID=3 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/0 SSH_CLIENT=192.168.1.181 59980 22 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0 _=/usr/bin/printenv OLDPWD=/root Le lun. 28 nov. 2022 à 10:42, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > > > On 11/28/22 08:38, Olivier wrote: > > Hello, > > > > J'ai dernièrement installé un serveur Bullseye. > > Je m'y connecte très sporadiquement en direct (VGA/DVI + clavier) et > > par SSH le reste du temps. > > > > Quelle est la sortie des commandes printenv et locale? > > > -- > Basile Starynkevitch > (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement) > 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France > web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/ >
Request for Libjasper package
Hi team, Kindly provide me with guidelines to install libjasper-dev package for Debian 11 arm64, as I am unable to locate the package from the Debian website's repository. Appreciate your positive response on the issue, thanks in advance. Regards, Yokeswary Anebarassane Puducherry Technological University
Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
Am 28.11.2022 10:04, schrieb B.M.: Hi, I'm going to buy a Dell Precision 3570 laptop [...] How would you proceed? [...] e) other... Thank you for your ideas. Maybe as an option: If there are special drivers needed, patches to the kernel, etc., you can run Debian on the Ubuntu kernel if everything else fails. I'm running a Chromebook* this way, using some ChromiumOS Kernel** plus Debian userland in Chromebooks dev-mode. regards hede *) Coreboot+Depthcharge, no u-boot or UEFI, Googles Embedded Controler, etc. **) self compiled kernel with mixed ChromiumOS+Debian config plus some fixes as the ChromiumOS patchset for Linux 5.10 a little buggy and doesn't even compile with some config options Debian sets but ChromiumOS does not use.
Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
On 28/11/2022 17:04, B.M. wrote: Hi, I'm going to buy a Dell Precision 3570 laptop in the next couple of weeks. Since it's a Build Your Own device, I can order it with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre- installed instead of paying for an never used Win 11 :-) Since all our other computers are happily running Debian, I'd like to replace this Ubuntu by Debian Testing (later Bookworm). I've already decided to run it on a single btrfs partition and learn something about subvolumes... I assume the machine should work well - but who knows? How would you proceed? a) leave it running Ubuntu forever b) replace Ubuntu by Debian, fiddling around issues if there are any later c) resize the partition, install Debian side-by-side, check than if anything works as expected d) analyze the installed system (how?) to find out any special configs etc. before replacing Ubuntu by Debian e) other... Thank you for your ideas. Have a nice day, Bernd PS: Please cc me, since I'm not regularly subscribed to the list Hello. First thing - it should have Ubuntu 22.04 LTS installed - that version (22.04) is now seven months old, and, has gone into point releases (patched sub-versions). I recommend retaining Ubuntu (and keeping it updated to the latest LTS version), as, if you encounter any hardware driver or firmware issues, that could help you resolve them, if you install another Linux distribution in parallel. I do not know whether Debian uses snap, but, Ubuntu does, and the use of snap on Ubuntu, now, has led to some quite passionate arguments, for and against it. You might want to, depending on the system capacity, install each of Linux Mint, and Debian, in parallel with Ubuntu, and, play with each of the three operating systems, to find your preference. You can share a single swap partition, between different distributions, and, between different versions of the same distribution. A 32GB partition is adequate for a / partition for a distribution, and, depending on how you want to deal with data, a 32GB or 64GB partition, should be adequate for a /home partition, with using shared data partitions (on a system that I recently acquired, I have shared data partitions formatted as exfat, for its enhanced features, and, it is accessible and formattable (?) using gparted). In case you are not aware, you can have a multi-boot iso USB thumbdrive, using Ventoy, which is easy to set up and use, and, you can boot into any live distro version, or, install from the iso versions, on a Ventoy thumbdrive. I have a Ventoy drive, with about 8 different distro iso's on it. Liam Proven has written published articles about Ventoy (https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/10/friday_foss_fest/). I hope that this is a helpful, and useful, start, to consider. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Starting Tomcat 10 at bootup
Amn Ojee Uw writes: > systemctl status tomcat.service > ● tomcat.service - Tomcat webs servlet container > Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/tomcat.service; enabled; vendor > preset> > Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Fri > 2022-11-25> > Process: 86949 ExecStart=/opt/tomcat/bin/startup.sh (code=exited, > status=0/> > Process: 86960 ExecStop=/opt/tomcat/bin/shutdown.sh (code=exited, > status=1/> > CPU: 38ms So maybe take a look at /opt/tomcat/bin/shutdown.sh to see what might cause it to exit with an error condition? You could try posting it here or a link to it.
Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
Hi, I'm going to buy a Dell Precision 3570 laptop in the next couple of weeks. Since it's a Build Your Own device, I can order it with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre- installed instead of paying for an never used Win 11 :-) Since all our other computers are happily running Debian, I'd like to replace this Ubuntu by Debian Testing (later Bookworm). I've already decided to run it on a single btrfs partition and learn something about subvolumes... I assume the machine should work well - but who knows? How would you proceed? a) leave it running Ubuntu forever b) replace Ubuntu by Debian, fiddling around issues if there are any later c) resize the partition, install Debian side-by-side, check than if anything works as expected d) analyze the installed system (how?) to find out any special configs etc. before replacing Ubuntu by Debian e) other... Thank you for your ideas. Have a nice day, Bernd PS: Please cc me, since I'm not regularly subscribed to the list
Re: Debian-Installer: clavier US ou configuration manuelle ?
Bonjour. J'utilise qwerty US sur les portables comme claviers externes. Aucun problème pour les caractères accentués àéèêôö... Le 28/11/2022 à 09:23, Olivier a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai personnalisé un fichier preseed.cfg qui me permet d'installer un serveur physique en me posant un minimum de questions. Je lance l'installation, en sélectionnant dans l'installeur Debian, les options Advanced Options puis Automated Install puis en fournissant l'URL de mon fichier preseed.cfg. Mon problème est le suivant: l'URL du fichier est longue je dois actuellement la saisir avec un clavier Azerty quand l'installeur attend un clavier Qwerty. Mes options: A. acheter un clavier Qwerty B. configurer l'installeur Debian pour qu'il me permette dès le départ, la saisie de l'URL avec un clavier Azerty. 1. Savez-vous spécifier un clavier Azerty avant la saisie d'une URL preseed ? Si oui, comment ? 2. Si la piste logicielle est impraticable, quel clavier choisir pour qu'il me soit le plus utile possible (que je puisse un jour l'utiliser comme clavier principal avec e accentué, etc ...) ? Slts
Re: Debian-Installer: clavier US ou configuration manuelle ?
Hello, Mon problème est le suivant: l'URL du fichier est longue Si la machine que tu installes au moment où tu saisis l'url du pressed a accès à internet, tu peux utiliser une url courte ? il y a bien des CHATONS qui te proposent ça. a+ f.
Debian-Installer: clavier US ou configuration manuelle ?
Bonjour, J'ai personnalisé un fichier preseed.cfg qui me permet d'installer un serveur physique en me posant un minimum de questions. Je lance l'installation, en sélectionnant dans l'installeur Debian, les options Advanced Options puis Automated Install puis en fournissant l'URL de mon fichier preseed.cfg. Mon problème est le suivant: l'URL du fichier est longue je dois actuellement la saisir avec un clavier Azerty quand l'installeur attend un clavier Qwerty. Mes options: A. acheter un clavier Qwerty B. configurer l'installeur Debian pour qu'il me permette dès le départ, la saisie de l'URL avec un clavier Azerty. 1. Savez-vous spécifier un clavier Azerty avant la saisie d'une URL preseed ? Si oui, comment ? 2. Si la piste logicielle est impraticable, quel clavier choisir pour qu'il me soit le plus utile possible (que je puisse un jour l'utiliser comme clavier principal avec e accentué, etc ...) ? Slts
Re: Trouble with ansible and apt. Is this a known problem?
David Wright writes: On Fri 25 Nov 2022 at 15:13:48 (+0100), Nathanael Schweers wrote: > We need to know the versions of the (relevant) packages on > your system. Sorry, I have the ones currently in bullseye. I’m afraid I am not at said machine at the moment and won’t be for the weekend. I’ll post more next week. > BTW you started this thread with "I recently installed Debian > Bullseye > on my desktop machine, having previously used Debian sid." We > need to > know whether the last part of that sentence is of any > relevance, or > just an aside. That was just there to indicate that this works perfectly fine on sid. I have another machine (which I’m using at the moment), which runs sid without any of the problems I’ve described here. What worried me was that you might, on the desktop machine, have carried over configuration files in /home from the sid version to bullseye. Your mentioning since, that there are some files (I know not what) in ~/.local/bin/ make that a reasonable question to ask. I started writing a reply to this about how I checked and re-checked for any such files. I was about to check the output of `ansible-playbook --version`, both in `$HOME/.local/bin` and in `/usr/bin`. Then it hit me, that ansible is using more files than I anticipated. Removing these fixed my issue! Many many thousand thanks to you and everyone else who helped me with this! Kind regards, Nathanael
