Re: strange time problem with bullseye

[Teemu Likonen]

* 2024-03-06 02:47:06+0800, hlyg wrote:

> my newly-installed deb11 for amd64 shows wrong time,  it lags behind
> correct time by 8 hours though difference between universal and local
> is ok.

It seems that you have solved the problem but here is another hint.
"timedatectl" is a good high-level tool for querying and adjusting time
settings. Without command-line arguments it prints a lot of useful info:

$ timedatectl
   Local time: ke 2024-03-06 07:33:00 EET
   Universal time: ke 2024-03-06 05:33:00 UTC
 RTC time: ke 2024-03-06 05:33:00
Time zone: Europe/Helsinki (EET, +0200)
System clock synchronized: yes
  NTP service: active
  RTC in local TZ: no

See "timedatectl -h" or manual page for more info.

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Re: Reportbug Assisance

[Charles Curley]

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 20:40:31 -0500
Tom  wrote:

> Just reminding whomever checks this mailbox, that I am still awaiting
> an answer to this question here.

Well, I'm no expert on KDE. But if you haven't gotten any other
response, as Marco Moock  suggested, I'd file it under
kinfocenter. Whoever is responsible for that can always reassign it if
that's appropriate.

Let us know the bug number when you do so those who wish to can track
it.

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Re: strange time problem with bullseye

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 7:07 PM hlyg  wrote:
>
>  [...]
>
> Windows shall not cause problem, i rarely use Windows
>
> i don't know if ntp is running, what's default configuration by deb11
> amd64 installer?

If you are dual booting Linux and Windows, then see
.

Jeff

Re: Reportbug Assisance

[Tom]

Just reminding whomever checks this mailbox, that I am still awaiting an
answer to this question here.

Thanks,

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:49 PM Tom  wrote:

> I originally filed this bug with the KDE team, but they asked me to file
> with Debian. There was a decent amount of discussion which I will link
> here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481746. I need to know how to
> file this bug. Will I be filing under a package or one of the other
> categories?
>
> Thanks
>

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

[hlyg]

Thank Greg Wooledge! it's solved with your help

i reboot to enter bios, it use UTC

then i change 3rd line of /etc/adjtime to UTC,  reboot to take effect, 
time is shown correctly now


i am timezone 0800, 8 hours ahead of GMT

both /etc/localtime points to same place

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 08:28:49PM +0800, hlyg wrote:
> Thank Greg Wooledge!
> 
> zhou@debian:~$ date
> Wed 06 Mar 2024 04:07:02 AM CST
> zhou@debian:~$ date -u
> Tue 05 Mar 2024 08:07:07 PM UTC
> 
> above is from deb11 for i386, it's correct

OK, and your time zone is 20 hours ahead of UTC, it appears.

> zhou@debian:~$ date
> Tue 05 Mar 2024 08:13:23 PM CST
> zhou@debian:~$ date -u
> Tue 05 Mar 2024 12:13:27 PM UTC
> 
> above is from deb11 for amd64, it's wrong, utc lag behind by 4 hours

Now this is odd-looking.  In this instance, your time zone is 4 hours
*behind* UTC instead of 20 hours ahead.  Which makes it off by exactly
one whole day.

Also, it *looks* like your i386 instance wrote UTC to the system clock,
and then your amd64 instance read that as local time.  You can see that
the 8:07:07 PM from the first instance is quite close to the 8:13:23 PM
from the second.

> Windows shall not cause problem, i rarely use Windows

The question isn't how often you use it, but whether you booted it in
between the two instances above.  Probably not, I suppose.

> i don't know if ntp is running, what's default configuration by deb11 amd64
> installer?

There is no "default".  Or rather, there are lots of defaults.  It's not
useful to ask about defaults.  Ask about what you have.

These are the packages that provide time-daemon on Debian 11:

systemd-timesyncd
openntpd
ntp
chrony

If one of those is installed and running, it should set your clock from
Internet sources (assuming it's configured reasonably, and you have
Internet access).

But more importantly, you need to check whether your Debian instances are
using local time or UTC for the real time clock, because it *looks* like
the i386 one is using UTC and the amd64 is not.

Check your /etc/adjtime files.

I'm also extremely curious why two different systems report "CST" with
two wildly different offsets from UTC.  What does
"ls -ld /etc/localtime" give on your systems?  Are they both the same?

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

[hlyg]

On 3/5/24 20:28, hlyg wrote:

Thank Greg Wooledge!

zhou@debian:~$ date
Wed 06 Mar 2024 04:07:02 AM CST
zhou@debian:~$ date -u
Tue 05 Mar 2024 08:07:07 PM UTC

above is from deb11 for i386, it's correct

zhou@debian:~$ date
Tue 05 Mar 2024 08:13:23 PM CST
zhou@debian:~$ date -u
Tue 05 Mar 2024 12:13:27 PM UTC

above is from deb11 for amd64, it's wrong, utc lag behind by 4 hours



Correction: utc is faster than correct by 4 hours

difference in minutes and seconds shall be neglected, because i run them 
in deb11 for i386, then reboot to amd64 and run them after a few minutes


these days i run only deb11 for i386 and amd64 on this machine, other OS 
shall not cause problem

strange apt output (due to t_time transition)

[Patrice Duroux]

Hi,

Release: sid
Arch: amd64

Trying to upgrade the qemu related packages, I got the following:

# apt install qemu-utils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386 : Depends: libsoup2.4-1:i386 (>= 2.48) or
   libsoup-3.0-0:i386 but it
is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
caused by held packages.

A bit surprising output regarding that on my system:

# apt --installed list | grep 'gstreamer1.0-plugins-good\|libsoup-3.0-0'
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good/unstable,now 1.22.10-1 amd64 [installed]
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good/unstable,now 1.22.10-1 i386 [installed]
libsoup-3.0-0/unstable,now 3.4.4-5 amd64 [installed]
libsoup-3.0-0/unstable,now 3.4.4-5 i386 [installed]

By pulling the thread of the qemu-utils dependencies I finally found
that it is related to   libhogweed6t64:{amd64,i386} and so to
libuuid1:i386 that did not yet reach the same version as for amd64
(2.39.3-10) in the archive.

# apt install libuuid1:i386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 e2fsprogs : PreDepends: libuuid1 (>= 2.16) but it is not installable
 Recommends: e2fsprogs-l10n but it is not going to be installed
 librdf0t64 : Depends: librasqal3 (>= 0.9.31)
 libsm6 : Depends: libuuid1 (>= 2.16) but it is not installable
 util-linux : PreDepends: libuuid1 (>= 2.16) but it is not installable
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
caused by held packages.

# apt show libuuid1:i386
Package: libuuid1:i386
Version: 2.39.3-9
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Source: util-linux
Maintainer: util-linux packagers 
Installed-Size: 80.9 kB
Provides: libuuid1t64 (= 2.39.3-9)
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.25)
Recommends: uuid-runtime
Breaks: libuuid1t64 (<< 2.39.3-9)
Replaces: libuuid1t64
Homepage: https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/
Tag: role::shared-lib
Download-Size: 30.9 kB
APT-Sources: https://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main i386 Packages
Description: Universally Unique ID library
 The libuuid library generates and parses 128-bit Universally Unique
 IDs (UUIDs). A UUID is an identifier that is unique within the space
 of all such identifiers across both space and time. It can be used for
 multiple purposes, from tagging objects with an extremely short lifetime
 to reliably identifying very persistent objects across a network.
 .
 See RFC 4122 for more information.


But why is apt so obscure about this?

Regards,
Patrice

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

[hlyg]

Thank Greg Wooledge!

zhou@debian:~$ date
Wed 06 Mar 2024 04:07:02 AM CST
zhou@debian:~$ date -u
Tue 05 Mar 2024 08:07:07 PM UTC

above is from deb11 for i386, it's correct

zhou@debian:~$ date
Tue 05 Mar 2024 08:13:23 PM CST
zhou@debian:~$ date -u
Tue 05 Mar 2024 12:13:27 PM UTC

above is from deb11 for amd64, it's wrong, utc lag behind by 4 hours

Windows shall not cause problem, i rarely use Windows

i don't know if ntp is running, what's default configuration by deb11 
amd64 installer?

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

[Charles Curley]

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 02:47:06 +0800
hlyg  wrote:

> wifi connection is good, i suppose both correct time with server 
> automatically

Not necessarily. You should install an NTP client if you haven't
already. I suggest systemd-timesyncd.

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Re: strange time problem with bullseye

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 02:47:06AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
> my newly-installed deb11 for amd64 shows wrong time,  it lags behind correct
> time by 8 hours though difference between universal and local is ok.

Run the commands "date" and "date -u" and show us the output.

Then tell us what you think the output should have been.

> but my deb11 for i386 on same machine shows correct time. i installed it
> long time ago

You have more than one operating system on this machine, then.  Are these
two Debian instances the *only* systems, or are there others?  Is Windows
one of them?

When multi-booting, it's important that all of the operating systems on
the machine agree on whether the real time clock is set to UTC, or to
local time.  For a long time, the conventional approach was to use local
time if you had to multi-boot with Windows (because Windows insisted on
it), or UTC if you only boot Linux-based systems.  I don't know how
Windows deals with the real time clock in modern times.

For comparison, please run "date" and "date -u" on the "deb11 for i386"
instance.

In particular, you're looking to see whether the "date -u" command
reports correct UTC time, and you're looking for what time zone the "date"
command uses.

If your UTC time is right but your time zone is wrong, then you need to
change your time zone.  On Debian, you do this by running
"dpkg-reconfigure tzdata".

If your UTC time is wrong, but it's off by exactly the amount that your
local time differs from UTC, then it's possible that one or more of your
multi-boot operating systems disagree on whether the real time clock is
set to UTC or local time.  Pick one, and then configure all of your
operating systems to use that.

If your UTC time is just wrong, with no obvious reason for it, then the
next question is whether you're running NTP.  And if not, why not (e.g.
this machine is on an isolated network or something).  Most computers
should be using NTP (Debian offers several choices for this), which will
keep the system clock reasonably correct, unless the hardware is failing.

Re: a couple rpi problems

[Mike McClain]

On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 11:41:07PM +, ghe2001 wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
> rpi5 and 4, standard Debian clone OS
>
> 1) The 5, pi5.slsware.lan, keeps sending me email saying,
> "*** SECURITY information for pi5 ***"
> and
> "pi5 : Mar  4 15:40:14 : root : unable to resolve host pi5: Name or service 
> not known"
> I have no idea why it's complaining or what's bent.

mike@DevuanPI4b:~> cat /etc/hostname
MikesDevuanPI
mike@DevuanPI4b:~> cat /etc/hosts

127.0.0.1   MikesDevuanPI


> 2) On both the 4 and 5, 'needrestart' says I'm running on an old kernel and 
> tells me that a reboot will start the newer version.  But it's just kidding 
> -- I reboot and I get the same message again.  The 4's been doing that for a 
> long time, and I've just let it keep running the old kernel because I'm 
> afraid I might break something if I try to delete the old kernel.  But I just 
> got the 5 a few days ago, it's doing the same thing, and I'd like to get this 
> dealt with.

I've never seen that either and have 2 RPI4bs running Devuan daedalus on this 
one,
Rasbian bookworm on the other.

I assume you ran apt update & apt upgrade before reboot.

One thing I have noticed is that reboot and 'shutdown -h now'
then toggling the power, don't always give the same results.

> --
> Glenn English

Be well,
Mike
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Re: [OT] VMware vende su negocio enfocado a usaurios finales

[Juan carlos Rebate]

Pues se me terminó el chollo, no uso vbox porque funciona criminalmente
lento a pesar de contar con un i7 gen 13 y una GPU rtx. Y de qemu ni
hablamos a pesar de tener kvm vmware es el que mejor funciona (con algunos
fallos de red) pero aceptables. Alguna alternativa? O si alguien me dice
como acelerar vbox

El mar., 5 mar. 2024 19:57, Camaleón  escribió:

> El 2024-03-04 a las 20:47 +0100, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
> > > Pues eso, ojo avizor quienes uséis productos de VMware que Broadcom
> > > está empezando a hacer caja «soltando lastre»:
> > >
> > > Broadcom Sells VMware's End-User Computing Division for $4bn
> > > https://news.itsfoss.com/broadcom-vmware-euc/
> > >
> > > KKR comprará la unidad de informática de usuario final de Broadcom por
> > > 4.000 millones de dólares
> > >
> > >
> https://es.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/kkr-comprara-la-unidad-de-informatica-de-usuario-final-de-broadcom-por-4000-millones-de-dolares-93CH-2581920
>
> > Dejarán workstation discontinuado? Lo empeorarán aún más? Se sabe algo?
>
> Supongo que te refieres a VMware Workstation Player/Pro¹, pero ni idea
> de lo que le va a deparar los hipervisores.
>
> Entiendo que por el tipo de empresa que _intuyo_ es KKR va a por la
> pasta y poco más; es decir, a por el negocio dirigido a las empresas y
> el modelo de suscripciones (SaaS).
>
> ¹https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-player.html
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>

strange time problem with bullseye

[hlyg]

my newly-installed deb11 for amd64 shows wrong time,  it lags behind 
correct time by 8 hours though difference between universal and local is 
ok.


i am normal user, i install only from main of deb11 plus wifi adapter 
firmware, though i don't install security update. i don't know where i 
can go wrong


but my deb11 for i386 on same machine shows correct time. i installed it 
long time ago


wifi connection is good, i suppose both correct time with server 
automatically

Re: Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 11:30 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 11:22 AM genti pp  wrote:
> >
> > I want to install debian 12 but I need to try it first.
> > Having Debian 12 live iso it asks me for username and password. Please tell 
> > me the correct username and password so I can try it.
>
> I usually use 'sudo su -' from the command line. Sometimes it does not
> prompt for a password. I don't recall if that's the case for a Debian
> Live cd.
>
> A quick Google search also turns up {user,live} pairs. I'm not sure if
> it is correct because I don't see a _recent_ answer from debian.org.
> Also see 
> .

This information is now documented at
. It was tested against a
Live CD for Debian 12.5.

Jeff

Re: how to wiki

[fxkl47BF]

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:23:59AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> how do i access the debian wiki
>>> https://wiki.debian.org/
>>> all i get is
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forbidden
>>>
>>> You are not allowed to access this!
>>>
>>
>> Check your firewall, proxies or other items which could restrict your
>> access. I'm in the southeastern U.S. and am easily able to access that URL
>> with no problems.
>
> It's not a client side issue.  It's a server side block.  The wiki
> admins will have to look at it and decide how to handle it.
>

i emailed
they fixed
thanks

Re: Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

[Махно]

Hello.

Default login and password for the Debian live is user / live

2024-03-05, an, 18:22 genti pp  rašė:
>
> Hello!
> I want to install debian 12 but I need to try it first.
> Having Debian 12 live iso it asks me for username and password. Please tell 
> me the correct username and password so I can try it.
> Thank you in advance!
>

Re: [OT] Desaparición de los menús de aplicaciones

[Camaleón]

El 2024-03-05 a las 17:34 +0100, Luis Muñoz Fuente escribió:

> Os pongo el ejemplo de gEdit, al que le han quitado los menús y le han
> puesto el menú hamburguesa o de las tres rayas horizontales, y además le
> han quitado la indicación de las teclas rápidas a las funciones, por
> ejemplo antes, al lado de la opción del menú abrir, «guardar como»,
> indicaba su tecla rápida correspondiente, «Ctr+Mayus+s», y ahora no lo
> indica, aunque funciona. Y lo mismo pasa en otras aplicaciones. Yo
> particularmente lo odio, me hace usar el ratón para algo que hacía
> fácilmente solo con el teclado. A lo mejor es que yo me estoy perdiendo
> algo y no le sé sacar partido..., ¿qué opináis?

Hace ¿años? que GNOME ha eliminado la barra de menús de su diseño en 
las aplicaciones (gEdit es una aplicación gnomera) y lo ha reemplazado 
por una hambuerguesa ☰ 

... una hamburguesa para gobernarlos a todos, para encontrarlos, para 
atraerlos a todos y atarlos en las tinieblas del ketchup.

Por eso me pasé de GNOME a XFCE hace años O:-)

Personalmente me parece una decisión de diseño horrible, poco práctica 
para según qué aplicaciones.

P. ej., en Firefox, que no uso apenas el menú de opciones, pues se 
agradece el menú único porque prefiero ver más contenido en la pantalla 
(las páginas web) y porque el programa permite volver a la vieja barra 
de menú si sin problemas (bien de manera temporal, pulsando la tecla Alt 
o bien de manera permanente desde la configuración).

Desgraciadamente, los desarrolladores de GNOME no suelen ser tan 
comprensivos y no siempre permiten al usuario configurar las 
aplicaciones al gusto, pero no sé si es el caso de gEDit, quizá permita 
editar algún archivo de configuración para activar (hacer visible) la 
barra de menú.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: how to wiki

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:23:59AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> 
> > how do i access the debian wiki
> > https://wiki.debian.org/
> > all i get is
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Forbidden
> > 
> > You are not allowed to access this!
> > 
> 
> Check your firewall, proxies or other items which could restrict your
> access. I'm in the southeastern U.S. and am easily able to access that URL
> with no problems.

It's not a client side issue.  It's a server side block.  The wiki
admins will have to look at it and decide how to handle it.

Re: how to wiki

[fxkl47BF]

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
>> how do i access the debian wiki
>> https://wiki.debian.org/
>> all i get is
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Forbidden
>>
>> You are not allowed to access this!
>
>> From :
>
> Q: Can I rename my account?
>
>  A: Yes, just login and click on Settings -> Preferences and edit the Name
> field. If you cannot login, then just reset your password first. Your
> existing edits will be attributed to the new account name.
>
> Q: Access to wiki.debian.org is blocked with 403 Forbidden
>
>  Please mail w...@debian.org with your IP address.
>

thanks

[OT] Desaparición de los menús de aplicaciones

[Luis Muñoz Fuente]

Hola:
Os pongo el ejemplo de gEdit, al que le han quitado los menús y le han
puesto el menú hamburguesa o de las tres rayas horizontales, y además le
han quitado la indicación de las teclas rápidas a las funciones, por
ejemplo antes, al lado de la opción del menú abrir, «guardar como»,
indicaba su tecla rápida correspondiente, «Ctr+Mayus+s», y ahora no lo
indica, aunque funciona. Y lo mismo pasa en otras aplicaciones. Yo
particularmente lo odio, me hace usar el ratón para algo que hacía
fácilmente solo con el teclado. A lo mejor es que yo me estoy perdiendo
algo y no le sé sacar partido..., ¿qué opináis?

Saludos

Re: Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 11:22 AM genti pp  wrote:
>
> I want to install debian 12 but I need to try it first.
> Having Debian 12 live iso it asks me for username and password. Please tell 
> me the correct username and password so I can try it.

I usually use 'sudo su -' from the command line. Sometimes it does not
prompt for a password. I don't recall if that's the case for a Debian
Live cd.

A quick Google search also turns up {user,live} pairs. I'm not sure if
it is correct because I don't see a _recent_ answer from debian.org.
Also see .

Jeff

Re: how to wiki

[Paul M Foster]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:

> how do i access the debian wiki
> https://wiki.debian.org/
> all i get is
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Forbidden
> 
> You are not allowed to access this!
> 

Check your firewall, proxies or other items which could restrict your
access. I'm in the southeastern U.S. and am easily able to access that URL
with no problems.

Paul

-- 
Paul M. Foster
Personal Blog: http://noferblatz.com
Company Site: http://quillandmouse.com
Software Projects: https://gitlab.com/paulmfoster

Re: how to wiki

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> how do i access the debian wiki
> https://wiki.debian.org/
> all i get is
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Forbidden
> 
> You are not allowed to access this!

>From :

Q: Can I rename my account?

  A: Yes, just login and click on Settings -> Preferences and edit the Name
 field. If you cannot login, then just reset your password first. Your
 existing edits will be attributed to the new account name.

Q: Access to wiki.debian.org is blocked with 403 Forbidden

  Please mail w...@debian.org with your IP address.

Re: how to wiki

[Marco Moock]

Am 05.03.2024 um 16:15:20 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com:

> how do i access the debian wiki
> https://wiki.debian.org/
> all i get is

Works for me.

-- 
Gruß
Marco

Send spam to 1709651720mu...@cartoonies.org

how to wiki

[fxkl47BF]

how do i access the debian wiki
https://wiki.debian.org/
all i get is




Forbidden

You are not allowed to access this!

Firefox et PDF

[Thierry]

Bonjour,

depuis la mise à jour dans la version 115.8.0esr (testing), je reçois le 
message suivant à l'ouverture d'un PDF:

"Votre navigateur ne comprend pas de plugin de lecture de PDF"

Quelqu'un a t'il rencontré ce problème? (pas très gênant par ailleurs 
puisqu'il suffit de télécharger le PDF pour le lire)


Merci.

Optymalizacja wizytówek w Google mapach

[Maja Kamińska]

Dzień Dobry.

Nazywam się Maja Kamińska i zajmuję się analizą zachowań konsumentów w 
wyszukiwarce Google. Optymalizuje widoczność przedsiębiorstw w Google mapach.
Jest to jeden z ważniejszych elementów oddziaływania na decyzje klientów i 
często bywa niedostrzegany przez przedsiębiorców.
Czy mogłabym się z Państwem skontaktować w celu krótkiego przedstawienia moich 
możliwości?

Maja Kamińska

Re: [OT] VMware vende su negocio enfocado a usaurios finales

[Camaleón]

El 2024-03-04 a las 20:47 +0100, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:

> > Pues eso, ojo avizor quienes uséis productos de VMware que Broadcom
> > está empezando a hacer caja «soltando lastre»:
> >
> > Broadcom Sells VMware's End-User Computing Division for $4bn
> > https://news.itsfoss.com/broadcom-vmware-euc/
> >
> > KKR comprará la unidad de informática de usuario final de Broadcom por
> > 4.000 millones de dólares
> >
> > https://es.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/kkr-comprara-la-unidad-de-informatica-de-usuario-final-de-broadcom-por-4000-millones-de-dolares-93CH-2581920

> Dejarán workstation discontinuado? Lo empeorarán aún más? Se sabe algo?

Supongo que te refieres a VMware Workstation Player/Pro¹, pero ni idea 
de lo que le va a deparar los hipervisores. 

Entiendo que por el tipo de empresa que _intuyo_ es KKR va a por la 
pasta y poco más; es decir, a por el negocio dirigido a las empresas y 
el modelo de suscripciones (SaaS).

¹https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-player.html

Saludos,

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Camaleón 

Re: Problem with sleeping mode ( debian 12 ) please help

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:09:34 +0100
Mansour Nasri  wrote:

Hello Mansour,

>Hi I'm using debian 12 in Lenovo yoga legion core i5 12th-gen with
>Nvidia
{cut}

You asked this, or a very similar question, on 29 Feb.  You had two
responses that I saw.  I suggest you review those replies and respond
accordingly.

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Re: Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

[Kushal Kumaran]

On Tue, Mar 05 2024 at 02:28:08 PM, genti pp  wrote:
> Hello!
> I want to install debian 12 but I need to try it first.
> Having Debian 12 live iso it asks me for username and password. Please tell
> me the correct username and password so I can try it.
> Thank you in advance!

username: user
password: live

according to
https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/customizing-run-time-behaviours.en.html#530

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Re: Encrypted home and pam_mount

[Max Nikulin]

On 05/03/2024 03:37, Andrey Dogadkin wrote:

On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 21:27 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:


https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8598#issuecomment-376845082
"systemd-user doesn't properly close its PAM session"


I saw that issue and it didn't strike me as related to my case,
pam_mount works fine as long as I allow it to shoot everything down.


It may be tricky to properly finish all user processes before closing 
PAM session. Examples what may go wrong:

- pam-sd (systemd) dropped privileges and unable to perform umount
- user@.service has not finished yet, so some processes from the systemd 
user service have files open
- The process that should close PAM session is killed by systemd when 
user@.service is stopped. Should not happen with defauld systemd-logind 
settings in Debian.



The thing is, even if I set absurdly big wait delay in pam_mount's
logout statement, I can still observe pulseaudio and dbus-daemon
running throughout the whole delay period. Systemd makes no attempt to
stop them before or while pam_mount is running, that's why it seems
like an ordering problem rather than just things being late.


I think, systemd-logind should initiate termination of systemd user 
session when UserStopDelaySec is elapsed after all processes that belong 
to current PAM session are finished. It may include the process that is 
waiting before locking (closing) the encrypted device. Sounds like a 
kind of deadlock.


If pam_mount allows it, I would try to not unmount the device in 
pam_close and instead ask user@.service to do it.

Problem with sleeping mode ( debian 12 ) please help

[Mansour Nasri]

Hi I'm using debian 12 in Lenovo yoga legion core i5 12th-gen with Nvidia
RTX 3050 and i'm facing a serious using debian 12 on this PC,
When the PC is on sleep mode ( suspend ) it's doesn't wake up anymore until
forcing shutting down and this each time the PC turns on suspend mode, (
fastboot are disabled )of course, the PC wake up but the screen is totally
black nothing displayed on the screen, ( installed Nvidia drivers from the
APT repo ) and is same problem.

"on my old PC dell i7 10th ( no additional GPU ) i never had this kind of
issue",  please help to resolve this problem I really don't want to back to
windows anymore. Thank you so much

Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

[genti pp]

Hello!
I want to install debian 12 but I need to try it first.
Having Debian 12 live iso it asks me for username and password. Please tell
me the correct username and password so I can try it.
Thank you in advance!

Re: Bullseye installation media nowhere to be found

[Luna Jernberg]

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/11.9.0/

Have Bullseye isos

Den tis 5 mars 2024 kl 12:37 skrev Felix Miata :
>
> It seems as though old-stable and older .isos have ceased to be available, 
> even
> though all the older versions' .debs remain on mirrors.
>  and
>  and
>  have lead me nowhere but to
> 12.5. I feel like there must be obvious I'm missing, as I keep circling back 
> to
> the same places that offer no .isos.
>
> Why? Kernel panics on 32-bit:
> 
> Communication with that OP is very difficult.
>
> I wish to test locally a proposed path forward, booting installed system via
> installation media, prior to proposing it. That requires I have the same
> installation media he seems to be tied to, or at least the same major version
> (11), correct? Otherwise, how can I be sure what I tell him to expect is in 
> fact
> what could or should occur?
> --
> Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
> based on faith, not based on science.
>
>  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
>
> Felix Miata
>

Re: bash parameter expansion "doesn't like" dots?

[Max Nikulin]

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 02:59, Greg Wooledge wrote:


We might *guess* that this change was made to make dash more strict
about POSIX minimalism (removing extensions), but without documentation
we can't do more than guess about motives.


The motivation is to avoid difference in behavior when compiled with 
internal fnmatch implementation and with glibc


https://lore.kernel.org/dash/e341e41f-8c32-b6e4-8be3-8f94fae26...@gigawatt.nl/
Re: possible wrong behaviour with patterns using a quoted ^ at the start 
of a bracket expression. Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:20:54 +
This bug (you're right that it's a bug) is specific to builds that use 
fnmatch(). In dash itself, ^ is always assumed as a literal. In builds 
with --disable-fnmatch you get correct results.


On 05/03/2024 12:22, David wrote:

A bit more info:
   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1028002


Unfortunately this bug has been left without a response from the 
maintainer. The release notes mentions the issue:


https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#dash-circumflex
https://bugs.debian.org/1034344

Bullseye installation media nowhere to be found

[Felix Miata]

It seems as though old-stable and older .isos have ceased to be available, even
though all the older versions' .debs remain on mirrors.
 and
 and
 have lead me nowhere but to
12.5. I feel like there must be obvious I'm missing, as I keep circling back to
the same places that offer no .isos.

Why? Kernel panics on 32-bit:

Communication with that OP is very difficult.

I wish to test locally a proposed path forward, booting installed system via
installation media, prior to proposing it. That requires I have the same
installation media he seems to be tied to, or at least the same major version
(11), correct? Otherwise, how can I be sure what I tell him to expect is in fact
what could or should occur?
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

Exim4 et smtp

[Zuthos Oddy]

Bonjour,

J'ai des gros soucis d'envois de mail. Impossible de me connecter a un 
SMTP pour faire suivre les courriels.


Voici ma configuration sur une Debian.

J'ai installer Fetchmail pour la réception des messages. Exim4 me sert à 
le distribuer. Enfin, Procmail à classer les messages dans les bons 
répertoires.


J'ai installer un processus IMAP via Courrier afin de pouvoir les 
consulter via roundcube et k9Mail


La réception des messages et la connexion IMAP pour pouvoir les 
consulter fonctionne bien. J'ai tester à l'aide de K9Mail.


De même, j'ai tester différents serveur SMTP sur ce même logiciel et 
tout fonctionne.


Malheureusement, lorsque je veux l'utiliser sur mon serveur mail pour 
faire des envois, cela ne fonctionne pas. Je dois utiliser une 
authentification et je n'arrive pas à la configurer.


J'ai tester plusieurs solutions et plusieurs SMTP et rien n'y fait.

Voici a configuration d'EXIM4:

update-exim4.conf.conf

dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost'
dc_other_hostnames=''
dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1'
dc_readhost='zuthos.net'
dc_relay_domains=''
dc_minimaldns='false'
dc_relay_nets=''
dc_smarthost='smtp.zaclys.net::465'
CFILEMODE='644'
dc_use_split_config='false'
dc_hide_mailname='true'
dc_mailname_in_oh='true'
dc_localdelivery='maildir_home'

J'ai aussi renseigné le fichier passwd.client avec mes identifiants de 
la forme:


smtp.zaclys.net::

Puisque, cela ne fonctionnait pas, j'ai tenté de configurer directement 
roundcube:


config.inc.php

$config['smtp_server'] =  'tls://smtp.zaclys.net';

$config['smtp_port'] = 465;

$config['smtp_user'] = '';

$config['smtp_pass'] = '';

Cela ne marche pas non plus. Si vous aviez une piste à suivre ou une 
solution...


Le nœud du problème et que je ne suis pas sur de vraiment savoir ce que 
je fait.


Merci par avance de vous pencher sur mon problème.

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?,oris it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

[gene heskett]

On 3/5/24 00:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 07:44:41PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:

On 3/4/24 11:42, Albretch Mueller wrote:

spend days on end reading, coding and thinking about Math?

[...]
Your traceroute might be your isp throttling things as traceroute demands an
answer from every machine it passes thru to get to the destination. Some
ISP's might frown on that as its a huge traffic burst.


_LINK="https://christuniversity.in/uploads/course/E_21-25_Lateral
Entry(1)_20210618043317.pdf"


This above is busted and will continue to be until you replace the " "
wrapping it up with left & right arrows like: 


Sorry, Gene -- this is nonsense (at several levels).

The quotes (") prevent the shell from splitting the thing into two pieces.
You'll have to make sure to quote the expansion like so "$_LINK" if you
want to prevent it being split again where it's used (e.g. as an arg to
wget or curl, or...)

That hasn't changed.

The angle brackets may quote in very specific contexts (e.g. an email
body). Or they may not. That depends on all the mail handling tidbits
in their way.

For the shell, the angle brackets HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MEANING
(sorry for raising my voice). They might redirect your stdin/stdout
or kill all kitten in your household, depending on context.

Cheers


I'll summerize, Tomas, it works for me. I use FF as a browser, and 
prefer bash as a shell. Currently t-bird for email but its buggier than 
a 10 day old road kill in the filter to mailbox category. Its a full 
time job keeping the mail filters that sort mail to local stash working 
at a 50% catch rate.  Old school? Guilty.


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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