Re: Maintaining multiple Debian boxes
Ben Gertzfield scripsit: |Ick. :) Yes, that would be slow on a slow net. I've heard wonderful |things about a Linux distribution out there that will cache NFS files |on a local hard drive, but I forget which it is. There must be some |way to to it and save bandwidth... Well, think about it from a different perspective: you have local disks which are now almost always in the Gb range for new PCs, why use NFS? It is much faster to have the system on the local disk. The question is: how do I upgrade and maintain them in sync, even NFS isn't perfect. Upgrading breaks machines, almost inevitably... Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maintaining multiple Debian boxes
Dale Scheetz scripsit: |Wow! Bet that keeps you busy ;-) Less than you would think, honest, I am doing a PhD at the same time ;-) |You might want to check out DoList in the upgrades directory. This script |runs dpkg from a list of packages that have been properly ordered to |resolve the dependency issues. Once you have a working list (check out the |base.list file as an example) you can run DoList against it and your |package archive to do repetative upgrades. If your 56 machines are |networked together, then you only need to keep the archive on one machine |and mount it nfs on the target machine, run DoList and you are done. |At the moment this is still not effortless, because of the various |questions that packages ask during installation. But this problem is being |worked on by others and should be resolved soon. I have: it is almost there but not quite what I want. One of the problems is the way upgrades need to be done. I understand that 99% of the developers don't have more than 4-5 machines on which Debian is running so the problem isn't felt but please try and go into multi-machine mode as you read on. dselect is out: interactive, hence useless. dpkg via rsh from a single trusted host (or ssh) isn't bad, only needs the packages to be NFS mountable and our local mirror allows NFS mounts for hosts within the UK (the academic net is a 33Mb/s ring over the UK so we don't have bandwidth problems as long as we don't leave our cosy neighbourhood). The problem, as you mentioned, is the answering of questions, a real pain, _and_ the fact that some configuration files are modified without telling the user (cf. my mail on /etc/X11/Xservers). Also, most packages, once upgraded need a reboot to be running clean, e.g. sendmail which isn't stopped during upgrade (this is criminal BTW since you then proceed to modify the .cf file...), this is not good for multi-machines 'cos I have jobs running and people to take care of... Finally, what about the extras? For example, without /etc/environment with LD_PRELOAD set to the GNU malloc I couldn't get xrdb to work in the first incarnation of X 3.2 - changing it on all machines meant an rdist, no problem... Basically my real problem is that I cannot find a coherent upgrade strategy, something which would be very nice is a dry run option to dpkg and dselect, i.e. pretend and show me problems, then I can see it before I mess up... Also a verbose mode where it shows me file modifications, this would have helped me catch the /etc/X11/Xservers problem before it hit me. Once I have an optimal dry run I can then write a script which does the nifty things by hand, like upgrading the libc first to save dependencies or something along those lines. Arrigo P.S.I added debian-users in the Cc: field 'cos I think it is of interest over there. -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maintaining multiple Debian boxes
Martin Konold scripsit: |A free Anrew File System like setup would be nice to deal with these kind |of nfs perfomrance problems. I don't know, I have never used it, and it doesn't seem to be very widespread. |We do use a commercial tool called venus for administering our linux |Ppro Cluster together with Iri, Ultrix and VMS machines. This tool does |the distribution of new software, home dirs, passwd How good is it? Does it deal well with the issues of, for example, Debian packages? Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LaserJet IIIp and apsfilter
Hello all, I have a problem with a LaserJet IIIp and apsfilter. It is my understanding that the memory requirements for 300x300 are of 1.5Mb and the standard box comes with 1Mb, i.e. I am limited to 150x150. This produces really bad output, perhaps someone might care to suggest an alternative (I am using the ljet3 driver, and have tried all the others in an attempt to get 300x300, of course with no positive results). Any help will be gratefully appreciated, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maintaining multiple Debian boxes
Hello all, I have now reached a count of 56 for the number of Debian boxes under my control and keeping them in sync (with rdist and lots of hacking) is beginning to get out of hand. Is anyone out there in a similar situation and cares to share some views/opinions and hints or perhaps put together a group to add suggestion to the main Debian developers for supporting installations with lots and lots of boxes? Ciao, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file zapped by upgrade
Hello all, upgrading xbase seems to zap /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers without giving a chance to save it in the usual way. I change the contents of it to add -terminate -bpp 16 -dpi 100 to the X server startup line and I have been burnt by upgrading my multiple machines as they all forgot the 16 bpp mode and started living in 8 bpp again. This was a bit of a pain as I had to change 50ish machines and restart xdm on all of them to the user's great delight... Could this be changed in xbase or should I set the arguments elsewhere as per the Debian way? Thanks, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LaserJet IIIp and apsfilter
Martin Konold scripsit: |No, I think that you are able to get 300x300 dpi with your setup. Mmh, I am not sure - when I do so I get an error on the HP saying Memory overflow... that is why I had to reduce to 150x150. Any ideas? Ciao, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maintaining multiple Debian boxes
Ben Gertzfield scripsit: |The more, the merrier! ;) Indeed, unless the natives get restless ;-) |Why not just pop /usr and /home on one machine and NFS mount them out |to all the other boxes? Speed - this would be a killer, local disks are at 2-4 Mb/s with fast EIDE, the net just can't keep up with this. Propagation of local binaries is done via rdist, as long as they are placed in /usr/local. Of course this means having rules for programs which require machine-specific configuration using the special, for example Condor (batch processing), etc. Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xrdb in 3.2-1 needs LD_PRELOAD
Hello all, another extra: on some machines (not all - weird) xrdb needs LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgnumalloc.so.5.4.13; export LD_PRELOAD to be placed in /etc/environment (source'd by /etc/X11/Xsession), otherwise it will die miserably complaining about being unable to execute /lib/cpp and ignore your .Xresources file... Ciao, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
utmp still confused with new base-files 1.2.0-3
Hello, X still confuses w: the entry for :0 appears with finger but not with w. Even after a reboot - could it have something to do with the contents of /etc/X11/Xresources: XTerm*utmpInhibit: false This is the only novelty introduced into the file by the switch to 3.2-1. Incidentally, the xmodmaps are messed up for vi (delete key), and only for vi, very confusing... I guess my International X 3.2 HOWTO needs some updating soon... Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Serious: X 3.2 and YP don't work!
Hello, serious problem: X 3.2 (from unstable) does _not_ work correctly with NIS, I can only log in from text consoles, X will not even allow root login. Also, the keyboard freezes on entering X - I need to connect via the net to kill xdm and regain the keyboard in text mode. Machines are running 2.0.26, X server is S3 (Trio64+). Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Update] X 3.2 login problem
Hello all, sorry for the previous rushed message. So, the problem is better described as follows: o login from virtual consoles is OK, both local and NIS accounts o login from X11 results in Login incorrect both for root (clearly local) and NIS accounts. Passwords have been checked n times including setting them to something trivial and trying again. o Machine is now running 2.0.27 (just in case TM) and it makes no difference except that the keyboard does not lock-up any longer under X startup. o X server is stock XF86_S3 coming in the 3.2-1 package, xbase is 3.2-1 too (all taken from mirror at ftp.funet.fi). o No error messages in any of /var/log/{messages,auth.log, debug,daemon,xdm-errors}. o System works fine with startx (clearly an authentication problem). o libpam was installed but removal made no difference. Any ideas urgently welcome (including how to get all the way back to my old 3.1.2...), Thanks, Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X 3.2 and utmp entry
Hello all, X 3.2 seems to be corrupting the utmp entry for :0, LoginName Tty Idle Login Time Office Office Phone arrigo Arrigo Triulzi *:036d Dec 5 20:26 () unprintable arrigo Arrigo Triulzip0 Dec 5 20:34 (:0.0) arrigo Arrigo Triulzip1 Dec 5 20:30 (:0.0) it also shows messed up with tcsh's watch variable. Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree 3.2 International Users HOWTO
Hello all, this message is intended for those of us out there who _don't_ have a US keyboard and are installing XFree 3.2. If you have a US keyboard ignore all that follows. To begin with I assume you have a relatively up-to-date Debian tree, i.e. all X stuff is version 3.2-1 or better. What you will want to do, immediately, is to make a safe copy of your XFree 3.1.2 configuration, to do this simply do cp /etc/X11/XF86Config /somewhere/safe/XF86Config Then install the XFree 3.2 packages _including_ the xext package which contians the dreaded XKBD extension which we will need. Now, you will notice that the installation will not ask you any questions as to converting your 3.1.2 config file to 3.2. This is the catch: let us assume that you have a password with the '@'. Then in the UK, for example, the '@' character sits where in the US they have the '' character and vice-versa. Let us assume that you run xdm. Then although you were used to X getting your keyboard right it will get it terribly wrong and you will not be able to log in - unless you know where all the characters sit on a US keyboard. How do you fix this? Simply run xf86config, install the keyboard that you need and then, once it is done, edit the config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config (as usual). There are a few changes, for example new video cards, so it might be a good idea to install a new config file from scratch. But, if like myself you have a 1152x900 100dpi mode you are particularly fond of you can recycle the old 3.1.2 XF86Config from the Monitors section onwards without any changes. Save this new config file and restart xdm. You will get back your proper keyboard mappings and be able to log in. Hope this helps someone else, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BUG: utmp and w output
Hello, there seems to be a pretty nasty bug in the frozen tree: the 'w' command reports the following: galois{~}% w 4:36pm up 2:28h, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 0.87 USER TTY LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT arrigo ttyp4 4:04pm0:000:000:00 w arrigo ttyp5 4:04pm2:010:000:00 -sh arrigo ttyp6 4:04pm4:100:000:00 -sh arrigo ttyp7 4:04pm3:020:000:00 -sh galois{~}% this didn't use to happen... It is quite serious as Mail, for example, when trying to save the mbox complains about not being able to open (null)/mbox (I wonder why...). Any clues? I have the frozen tree as of Friday 29th November. Thanks, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fortran I/O problems
Hello all, just to continue the Fortran saga: it looks suspiciously like the I/O library in f2c and g77 both don't do buffered I/O any longer. This differs from the standard behaviour on other platforms where the WRITE statement produces buffered I/O. Could this be a side-effect of the 5.4.x library? The problem is shown by jobs which have I/O, even to a local disk which never attain 90% CPU usage on the machine. Watching the data with tail -f shows that data is written continuosly, without any buffering of any sort. Please note that the machines are 166MHz pentiums with 430HX motherboards and fast EIDE disks and 64Mb of RAM, i.e. the stuff should be buffered by Linux in any case. The boxes are running Linux 2.0.25. I have a situation where the processor is idle 56% of the time, system usage is at about 1% and jobs only get 40%ish. The same jobs on other boxes (Suns running SunOS or Solaris, DEC alphas with OSF) constantly stay at 90+% cpu usage. A typical vmstat line is: procs memoryswapiosystem cpu r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id [...] 1 0 0 3544 992 304 5340 0 001 152 121 40 2 59 Not very impressive... Any information/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- This message was distributed manually by [EMAIL PROTECTED] after the list initially failed to distribute it.
16-bit X modes and clients from Suns
Hello all, users on my machines have X set to 16-bit 1152x900 on S3 cards. The problem is that when running clients from a Sun displaying on their screens the colours are completely messed up unless they go down to 8-bit colour, where everything is fine but, of course, colours aren't enough to go round. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 f2c serious problems
Douglas Bates scripsit: |Are the differences in floating point results relative to other |machines based on Intel processors? Remember that the floating point |registers on Intel processors use an 80 bit IEEE extended |representation. Other architectures such as SPARC use the 64 bit IEEE |representation. Differences in the results are not necessarily |because of compiler flaws. Yes, they are indeed, I was not aware of the difference between Intel and other architectures. I guess I should have imagined it, but the NAG F90 compiler doesn't seem to have such problems (of course, being commercial and expensive one would think they'd be careful about it...) |You can emulate the behaviour of other IEEE machines by using the |-ffloat-store compiler option. [...] |Using this option is a bit of a sledge-hammer approach. It purposely |slows down the calculation and makes it less accurate all for the sake |of getting the standard result. Doesn't seem to work at all! It makes no difference to the results, does one have to turn off optimisation? Neither g77 nor f2c+gcc seem to notice. |In the alpha-test group for a statistical package called `R' we |recently encountered a situation where the results under Debian Linux |were different than those under other architectures. Turns out that |the code was a little sloppy about some floating point comparisons, |not that the Linux compilers were wrong. Fair enough, it simply sounds strange that we are seeing this problem only with f2c and g77... Thanks, Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 f2c serious problems
David Gaudine scripsit: |I should add that, in the unlikely event that -fno_automatic solves |your problem, you should send the bug report to the developers of your |source code. -fno_automatic solves a problem that should not come up |with correct code. Ahem, it didn't work. So far no solutions whatsoever, even the latest f2c is of no avail. It seems that the -fforce-saves isn't working as advertised, or rather it is still working at 80-bit precision. I frankly don't know. We are re-running all our code and cross-checking numbers on architectures. Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
g77 f2c serious problems
Hello all, people here are having very serious problems with both g77 and f2c: the numbers which come out at the end are different from any other architecture we can lay our hands on, i.e. they have declared the boxes unfit for numerical calculations. This is a pretty major problem because the whole idea of getting Linux on fast PCs was to offload the main Unix boxes from jobs. Now the question is: am I the only one seeing this problem or is this a known problem which somehow doesn't make it on the READMEs and FAQs? I'd like to point out that where g77 is in alpha stage, f2c isn't and on other architectures is happily used and gives numerically consistent results with the native Fortran compilers. I would greatly appreciate any information or patches. A bug report is in the process of being prepared for both the g77 developers and the f2c developers. Incidentally, should I send a bug report to the Debian developers too? Thanks, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Solution] NIS slave hosts map problem
Hello all, the solution to the problem described previously (slave server unable to transfer the hosts.{byaddr,byname} maps due to a DBM error) is solved by upgrading ypserv to version 1.1.1 (distributed version is 1.0.4). This version can be found at: ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/NYS/servers ftp.uni-paderborn.de/linux/local/yp http://www-vt.uni-paderborn.de/~kukuk/linux you need to edit the Makefile, once make config is done, and apply the following patch so it finds the ypserv.securenets where Debian keeps it. --- MakefileTue Nov 5 16:54:07 1996 +++ Makefile.newTue Nov 5 14:46:02 1996 @@ -34,10 +34,10 @@ exec_prefix = ${prefix} ## Remember to modify the ypMakefile if you modify YPBINDIR ! -YPBINDIR= ${exec_prefix}/libexec/yp +YPBINDIR= /usr/lib/yp YPMAPDIR= /var/yp SBINDIR = $(exec_prefix)/sbin -CONFDIR = ${prefix}/etc +CONFDIR = /etc MAN5DIR = $(prefix)/man/man5 MAN8DIR = $(prefix)/man/man8 @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@ ## securenets in YPMAPDIR. You must also add ## -DSECURENETS='$(SECURENETS)' to CPPFLAGS. #SECURENETS = $(YPMAPDIR)/securenets +SECURENETS = $(CONFDIR)/ypserv.securenets ## How many children of ypserv should be run max. at one time MAXCHILDREN = 20 @@ -79,7 +80,7 @@ CFLAGS = -O2 CPPFLAGS = -DYPMAPDIR='$(YPMAPDIR)' -DYPBINDIR='$(YPBINDIR)'\ -DCONFDIR='$(CONFDIR)' -DMAX_CHILDREN=$(MAXCHILDREN)\ - -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=$(XFRBLOCKSIZE) + -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=$(XFRBLOCKSIZE) -DSECURENETS='$(SECURENETS)' LDFLAGS = WARNFLAGS = -Wall I hope this is of help to someone else, Ciao, Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Poss. Solved] gsfonts 4.01-3
joost witteveen scripsit: |That works, but it's better to upgrade to gs-aladdin_4.03-4 or |gs_3.33-2. That also solves it. Absolutely true, only that my mirror didn't have it on Friday ;-) I have now upgraded and fixed it the proper way. Thanks, Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
perl 5.003.07-1 breaks Yard 1.7
Hello all, there seems to be a problem with the latest (on my mirror ;-) version of perl, 5.003.07-1, and Yard 1.7. With the previous version there were no problems, now Yard 1.7 bombs with Can't locate object method autoflush via package IO::Handle at ./make_root_fs line 37. even though there is a use FileHandle; in the file. Thanks, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ypxfr and hosts.{byaddr,byname}
Hello all, I seem to be unable to get ypxfr to receive hosts.{byaddr,byname} from the main NIS host. My secondary server (slave for purists) complains about a DBM error: ypxfr: Local dbm operation failed similarly the scripts ypxfr_1perhour, etc. because, of course, they run ypxfr. Needless to say even on server pushes the server sees the error. It is a problem only with this map (confusing I must say), Ciao, Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libc5-dev upgrades
Hello all, I know that it is intended that kenel header files come with libc5-dev and are not symlinks to the kernel source tree. Ok, this said let us come to my humble request: I would dearly like to use the symlink to my current kernel source on all boxes, this is because of some driver work people are doing. Whenever I upgrade the symlinks zap the /usr/src/linux/include/linux directory and I have to reinstall the include files by hand... Would it be possible to have an option preventing dpkg from following symlinks (or is it already there) so that I can save my kernel setup from zapping when I upgrade libc5-dev? Thanks, Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Elm problem
Hello, we have the Elm package installed and people are unable to use it for sending e-mail which always fails with a bad call: sh: -oi not found I have the impression that it is trying to tag the -oi flag to the sendmail command but never actually adds the sendmail in front. Are there any patches for this problem around? It is quite urgent as the natives have lost all the e-mail they have sent (before reporting it). Ciao, Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work under X?
Hello Thomas, Thomas Baetzler scripsit: |The way we have handled this at a customer installation is that |we created a user shutdown who was privileded to run shutdown. You are not the only one to suggest this... the problem with this is that it is highly insecure (well, you might say so is C-A-Del from the keyboard, but this implies access to a card-controlled, monitored room in our case), people can reboot from all over the net. And our machines are teaching PCs, i.e. connected to the net. At the moment two solutions look very promising, both the Tcl/Tk script and, IMHO better, Miquel's modified xdm startup. This would mean that, if I can modify the Xlogin keymaps, the kids will find themselves using the familiar combination (very familiar since they use Windoze...). Ciao, Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Installation Issues
Jim Worthington scripsit: |1)Boot Message - I get the following message when booting: | | |Oct 8 17:10:10 hercules syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. |Oct 8 17:10:11 hercules kernel: Cannot find map file. | |What is a map file? Map of kernel symbols (= functions and external variables) |Where is it supposed to be? /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map /System.map (any of the three, if more than one they'd better be the same...) |How do I get rid of the message? Under debian you should already have /System.map, a symlink to /boot/System.map-2.0.x (x = kernel minor, whatever that is in your case). |2) Where is the /boot/psdatabase file used? ps w which shows the channels, i.e. the kernel function the code is in. |I manually installed a new kernel (no debian package) and need to know |if it was done correctly. After compiling the 2.0.13 pnp patched |kernel, I did the following: | |a) cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zimage /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.13-pnp | |b) cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.13-pnp | |c) I then re-linked /vmlinuz and /System.map to point to the newly added |files in /boot. I then ran lilo and rebooted. | |It's working, but there are some loose ends that I am concerned about. |I've had the cannot find map file message since day 1, so it's not |related to installing the new kernel. See the links above, you need the /System.map to be correctly linked too. |The /boot/psdatabase file is linked to /boot/psdatabase-2.0.0. I |couldn't find any corresponding files in the newly compiled kernel |directory structure. It would seem that I should have a |psdatabase-2.0.13-pnp as well. Just do rm /boot/psdatabase psupdate ln -s /boot/psdatabase-2.0.13-pnp /boot/psdatabase Ciao, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libpaper?
David C. Winters scripsit: |The gs and ghostscript packages depend on the libpaper package, which is |currently listed as unavailable. Is there a problem with it, or is it |somewhere other than in stable, non-free, or contrib? You can find it in the unstable tree (at least, here on the UK mirror it hasn't migrated). Arrigo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C-A-Del and X
Hello all, thanks for responding via e-mail, I am now on the list, just didn't have the time to do this before. I think the optimal solution is the Tcl/Tk script, I cannot set the uid for a shutdown because the room is open access and the last thing I want is a bunch of students playing tricks on each other. Thanks to all for helping, Ciao, Arrigo -- Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~agbt Mathematics Dept. Imperial College of Science Technology - London - UK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]