Re: procps with sysvinit: libsystemd0 vs libelogind0
In article , David Wright wrote: > On Mon 16 Oct 2023 at 16:05:48 (-0700), Bill Brelsford wrote: >> The latest version of procps (2:4.0.4-2) depends on libsystemd0, so >> upgrading 2:4.0.3-1 to it causes libsystemd0 to be installed. But >> on my sysvinit system it conflicts with libelogind0: >> >> libelogind0 : Conflicts: libsystemd0 but 254.5-1 is to be installed > > At least in 246.10, libelogind0 should also replace and provide > libsystemd0, which means APT shouldn't try to install libsystemd0. > > Is it possible that you've unluckily updated your lists while > the repository was being updated, in which case, a brief wait > and then re-updating might fix the problem. That wasn't the problem, David, but it pointed me to it. procps requires libsystemd0 >= 254~rc1, but libelogind0 is still 246.10-1debian1 and provides libsystemd0 246.10. I need to be patient and wait for libelogind0 to be updated. Thanks.. Bill
procps with sysvinit: libsystemd0 vs libelogind0
The latest version of procps (2:4.0.4-2) depends on libsystemd0, so upgrading 2:4.0.3-1 to it causes libsystemd0 to be installed. But on my sysvinit system it conflicts with libelogind0: libelogind0 : Conflicts: libsystemd0 but 254.5-1 is to be installed Should I let libsystemd0 replace libelogind0? I don't remember if that would cause other problems. Thanks.. Bill
Re: inode issue with cifs
I dont want to use nfs. And considering the inode appears correct initially. It appears there is a bug somewhere. On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, 11:28 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Little Bill wrote: > > Provided the mount? This inode issue doesn't occur on Debian 8 and nfs. > To > > the same nas and content > > Then why don't you try it with NFS and see if two networked > filesystems give the same results or different results? > > -dsr- >
inode issue with cifs
not sure which group inode count is wrong on a cifs mount to a synology 394500 -rwxrwxr-x 1 root media 1460761806 Jan 22 09:36 'Magnum P.I - S04E12 - Angels Sometimes Kill.mkv' littlebill@tvmedia:/opt/mounts/vnas/tv/Magnum P.I/Season 04$ sudo find / -inum 394500 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconv/IBM861.so /opt/mounts/vnas/postprocessing/magnum.p.i.2018.s04e12.720p.web.h264-cakes.mkv /opt/mounts/vnas/tv/Magnum P.I/Season 04/Magnum P.I - S04E12 - Angels Sometimes Kill.mkv mount mount -t cifs -o rw,vers=3.0,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775,gid=1002,credentials=/root/.smbcredentials //vnas.lb/"Vnas Dump"/Video_NP/ /opt/mounts/vnas/
Custom mariadb installation
Hi guys, So I'd like to install mariadb on Debian 10 with the --basedir=/usr/local/mariadb and --datadir=/data/mariadb. I've tried to add these options to the "apt install mariadb-server" command line but I get error messages saying the options aren't recognized. So what then is the correct way to install mariadb using unique, non-standard root and data directories? Thanks much, Bill -- Sent using Icedove on Debian GNU/Linux.
Raid 1 borked
Hi folks, So we're setting up a small server with a pair of 1 TB hard disks sectioned into 5x100GB Raid 1 partition pairs for data, with 400GB+ reserved for future uses on each disk. I'm not sure what happened, we had the five pairs of disk partitions set up properly through the installer without problems. However, now the Raid 1 pairs are not mounted as separate partitions but do show up as subdirectories under /, ie /datab, and they do seem to work as part of the regular / filesystem. df -h does not show any md devices or sda/b devices, neither does mount. (The system partitions are on an nvme ssd). lsblk reveals sda and sdb with sda[1-5] and sdb[1-5] but no md[0-5]. blkid reveals that sda[1-5] and sdb[1-5] are still listed as TYPE="linux_raid_member". So first of all I'd like to be able to diagnose what's going on. What commands should I use for that? And secondly, I'd like to get the raid arrays remounted as separate partitions. How to do that? Fortunately, there is no data to worry about. However, I'd rather not reinstall as we've put in a bit of work installing and configuring things. I'd prefer not to loose that. Can someone help us out? Thanks in advance, Bill -- Sent using Icedove on Debian GNU/Linux.
Re: Problem with mirrors in a 10.4.0 install
On 21/07/20 12:05 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Does the wget command (without the grep) part work? Thanks Andrei, You've definitely pointed me in the right direction. On another host, I ran the installer command: wget --no-verbose http://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/debian/dists/buster/Release -O - grep -E '^(Suite|Codename|Architectures):' It worked fine, with a response: Suite: stable Codename: Buster Architectures: amd64 arm64 armel armhf i386 mips mips64el mipsel etc Running the same command in a console on the installer produced a different result: Unable to connect to host (or something similar) So I checked the DNS setting and sure enough one digit was off. Problem solved. Muchas Gracias, Bill -- Sent using Icedove on Debian GNU/Linux.
Problem with mirrors in a 10.4.0 install
Hi, So I'm installing 10.4.0 on a new box and I'm unable to set up a mirror to assist with the install. I'm using Expert Install ( although clearly I'm not expert enough ) and I've included "Choose Mirror" in the selected "Additional Components" of "Load Installer". I've tried using ftp.us.debian.org and debian.gtisc.gatech.edu both of which show support for buster (10.4) in debian/dists/Debian10.4/ . My networking in the install is correctly set up I believe. Although the installer doesn't have ping capability (ash), I am able to ping the new box correctly from another host on my lan. I've selected http as the mirror protocol and there is no proxy involved. I've also successfully checked the integrity of the CD-ROM. From the installer I get the following error message: Bad Archive Mirror An error has been detected while trying to use the specified Debian archive mirror. Possible reasons for the error are: incorrect mirror specified; mirror is not available (possibly due to an unreliable network connection); mirror is broken (for example because an invalid Release file was found); mirror does not support the correct Debian version. Additional details may be available from /var/log/syslog or on virtual console 4. Please check the specified mirror or try a different one. From the F4 console I get the error: choose-mirror [20574]: WARNING **: mirror does not support the specified release (buster). From /var/log/syslog I get these messages: choose-mirror [20574]: DEBUG: command: wget --no-verbose http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/Release -O - |grep -E '^(Suite|Codename|Architectures):' And then the same error message as on the F4 console above. So how can I take my diagnostics further? Is there anything else I can examine through a console or log or config file? Might the installer be using the wrong Architecture or something. What might the source of the error be? All advice appreciated, Bill -- Sent using Icedove on Debian GNU/Linux.
Re: Shutdown delay with LVM and disk encryption (SysV, buster)
On Sat Aug 31 2019 at 03:40 PM +0200, Stefan Krusche wrote: > Am Freitag, 30. August 2019 schrieb Bill Brelsford: > > My 64-bit buster installation was created using its installer, with > > / and /home partitions in an encrypted logical volume (sda3_crypt). > > On shutdown, it pauses near the end with > > > > Stopping remaining crypto disks... sda3_crypt (busy) sda3_crypt > > busy... > > > > The busy messages continue for about 30 seconds, after which it > > indicates "Failed" in red (I think, it happens fast) and shuts down > > in a second or two. > > > > If I change to systemd, shutdown is fast (no delay). > > > > This appears to be similar to earlier bugs, e.g. > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792552, > > except that they hung indefinitely. > > > > Anyone else seeing this? Any suggestions or workarounds (other > > than systemd)? Thanks.. > > Hello Bill, > > this behaviour had been discussed here, I think: > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11522#p11522 > > In that thread and others on that forum there are a couple of links to > other threads etc. about this issue. > > The proposed solution is a patch which originated here: > > https://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=237 > > …which I have applied on my system (devuan/ascii) and never seen this > problem again. Thanks, Stefan -- that fixed it! The cryptdisks-functions file no longer contains the "local dst .." line, on buster anyway -- I inserted a "local vgs vg" line. Total shutdown time now about 7 seconds.. Regards.. Bill
Shutdown delay with LVM and disk encryption (SysV, buster)
My 64-bit buster installation was created using its installer, with / and /home partitions in an encrypted logical volume (sda3_crypt). On shutdown, it pauses near the end with Stopping remaining crypto disks... sda3_crypt (busy) sda3_crypt busy... The busy messages continue for about 30 seconds, after which it indicates "Failed" in red (I think, it happens fast) and shuts down in a second or two. If I change to systemd, shutdown is fast (no delay). This appears to be similar to earlier bugs, e.g. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792552, except that they hung indefinitely. Anyone else seeing this? Any suggestions or workarounds (other than systemd)? Thanks.. -- Bill Brelsford wbr...@k2di.net
Re: is xdvi broken?
On Mon, 2019-04-22 at 05:17 +, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: . . . > That saves three steps over my current procedure: > > = In Emacs, save the document > = Switch to a virtual terminal > = Execute "latex mydocument.tex" > = Execute "latex mydocument.tex" > = Execute "dvips mydocument.dvi" > = Execute "lpr mydocument.ps" > = Switch back to Emacs > = Continue work on the document > Is there a reason not to use pdflatex? My workflow then is = In emacs, save the doc foo.tex = switch to a virtual terminal = execute "pdflatex foo.tex" (as many times as needed) = execute "evince foo.pdf" = when desired, select "Print" from the "File options" menu of evince = switch back to emacs
Re: Emacs without knowing any Lisp (was: text editors)
On Fri, 2019-03-29 at 12:48 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > deloptes writes: > > > I've been there exactly 17y ago. I still have no idea where lisp is used > > except in Emacs and some exotic projects, so being pragmatic ... good for > > you who know emacs - for the rest good that you do not know emacs. > > I've been a happy and productive Emacs user for more than 17 years and > still don't edit any Lisp. It just isn't necessary to get things done. > > (I hear the Atom text editor is implemented in JavaScript; that doesn't > imply JavaScript knowledge is needed to use Atom.) > > With that knowledge, hopefully more people can explore using Emacs > https://tuhdo.github.io/emacs-tutor.html>. > FWIW I've been using emacs on mainframes, workstations, and PCs since about 1984. I've found the elisp programmatic interface useful since I first cobbled together a set of rectangle-oriented tools (since replaced by the rectangle commands provided by more recent versions of emacs; see section 9.5 of the emacs manual for emacs 24). I also use Common Lisp for most of my application programming, which involves either mathematical programming (bignums and big rationals are wonderful for some number theoretic computations) or interesting computational problems (suffix trees for classical cryptanalysis, exploring patterns in calendars, whatever catches my eye). I've recently been developing tools to assist extracting text from web sites and reformatting as page-oriented documents rather than unpaged HTML (personal preference; I'm an old fart who likes documents with real pages, footnotes, headers and footers, etc.) The elisp tools help me transform scraped text into LaTeX source files. I also put together some Python scripts for setting up and managing the directory structure for extracted texts. My first point is, having access to a full-blown programming language for doing task-specific work within an editor is *wonderful*; my second point is, the lisp family of languages are very useful and flexible tools for, among other things, exploratory programming. -- Bill Wood
disk encryption causing kernel panic
Hi folks, I'm unable to boot my previously stable workstation after attempting to install rinetd through systemd. Although rinetd worked fine prior to systemd it doesn't work now and caused /var to saturate (10Gb). This may or may not be related, but I mention it as prologue. I have access to the system via a rescue key. The problem seems to be that there is a bug in cryptsetup? which causes a kernel panic. In the output below, md2 is (encrypted) swap and md8 is /text - an encrypted partition. /text currently has only a few files which I could sacrifice, although I'd rather not. I successfully enter the password for md2 and then don't even see the request for md8_crypt (ie a prompt for input) but get the following (condensed) output below. I'm hoping someone has seen this before and knows a workaround. I'd rather not do a complete reinstall if I don't have to. What would I do if there were a lot of files? Thanks much, Bill Please unlock disk md2_crypt: cryptsetup (md2_crypt): set up successfully Please enter passphrase for disk md8_crypt on /text! [ 51.450202] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at(null) [ 51,450255] IP: [<(null)>] (null) [ 51.450285] PGD 0 [ 51.450296] [ 51.450311] Oops: 0010 [#1] SMP [ 51.450329] Modules linked in: .. [ 51.451083] CPU: 0 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 Debian 4.9.0-2+deb9u5 [ 51.451123] Hardware name: Supermicro X9SAE/X9SAE, BIOS 2.0b 07/10/2013 [ 51.451156] task: 8e40e500 task.stack: 8e40 [ 51.451185] RIP: 0010: [<>] [> (null)>] (null) ... ... ... [ 51.451524] Stack: ... ... [ 51.451680] Call Trace: ... ... [ 51.452376] Code: Bad RIP value. [ 51.452403] RIP [<(null)>] (null) [ 51.452432] RSP [ 51.452451] CR2: [ 51.452471] ---[end trace cd08982bd438f7e2 ]--- [ 51.452495] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt [ 51.452561] Kernel Offset: 0xc80 from 0x8100 (relocation range: 0x8000-0xbfff) [ 51.452621] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt end of output from boot attempt -- Sent using Icedove on Debian GNU/Linux.
Re: udev (without systemd) fails to find devices
On Wed Sep 12 2018 at 10:10 PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2018-09-11 19:05 -0700, Bill Brelsford wrote: > > > I recently upgraded the sid installation on an i386 machine. With > > udev upgraded to 239-8, many devices are no longer detected during > > boot, e.g. usb, network card, video, audio. I also have a > > not-upgraded buster partition on the same machine -- a large > > portion of its dmesg output is simply missing from sid's dmesg. > > Maybe udevd has not even been started then. What does > "/usr/sbin/service udev status" say? It's running. > > The kernel was also upgraded (to 4.18.0-1), but booting the old > > kernel (4.17.0-3) also fails. So it appears to me to be a bug in > > udev, possibly connected to my not running systemd. I haven't > > seen that anyone else is affected, so wanted to check here before > > submitting a bug report. Anyone else? Any other ideas? > > The udev init script has seen some changes in 239-8. Offhand the only > one which could explain the problem is that systemd-udevd is now started > via start-stop-deamon[1]. I don't have any systemd-less system to test > myself, though. That's where the problem is (thanks, Sven!). Appears to be a race condition due to --background; it lets "udevadm trigger" start too soon. Adding a short sleep makes it work: if start-stop-daemon --start --name $NAME --user root --quiet \ --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON --background --make-pidfile; then sleep 2 I'll plan to submit a bug report tomorrow.. Regards.. Bill
udev (without systemd) fails to find devices
I recently upgraded the sid installation on an i386 machine. With udev upgraded to 239-8, many devices are no longer detected during boot, e.g. usb, network card, video, audio. I also have a not-upgraded buster partition on the same machine -- a large portion of its dmesg output is simply missing from sid's dmesg. The kernel was also upgraded (to 4.18.0-1), but booting the old kernel (4.17.0-3) also fails. So it appears to me to be a bug in udev, possibly connected to my not running systemd. I haven't seen that anyone else is affected, so wanted to check here before submitting a bug report. Anyone else? Any other ideas? Thanks.. -- Bill Brelsford wbr...@k2di.net
SystemD problem with launching a server
Hi, So I'd like to run rinetd at boot time on Stretch along with sshd. I've no problem running rinetd manually using /usr/sbin/rinetd or in a script using the same command. ps aux |grep rinetd shows it's running and it works as expected. So I've written a service file for systemd, /etc/systemd/system/rinetd.service and enabled it with systemctl enable /etc/systemd/system/rinetd.service. At boot time the file gets run but nothing shows up with ps aux, although sshd is running correctly. I think the problem is with the systemd file. Here's the rinetd.service file: # /etc/systemd/system/rinetd.service # A systemd.service file to start # /usr/sbin/rinetd at boot time. [Unit] Description=Start rinetd server After=multi-user.target network.target sshd.service [Service] Type=oneshot ExecStart=/usr/sbin/rinetd Restart=no [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target Any clues? Is this file too sparse? Or am I pining for the fjords? Bill -- Sent using Icedove on Debian GNU/Linux.
Re: Re: Boot fails after power outage
Darac, thanks, will try when I can spare the down time.
Boot fails after power outage
Debian 9.5 on Dell Poweredge T310. After power outage, during boot, got the below messages on the console: Loading Linux 4.9.0-6-amd64 ... Loading initial ramdisk ... /dev/sda3: clean, 279518/18317312 files, 11798527/73242112 blocks 6.912603] ACPI Error: SMBus/IPMI/GenericSerialBus write requires Buffer of length 66, found length 32 (20160831/exfield-427) 6.912762] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PMI0._GHL] (Node 8b8ebe9ae460), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20160831/psparse-543) 6.913015] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PMI0._PMC] (Node 8b8ebe9aee38), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20160831/psparse-543) 6.913284] ACPI Exception: AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT, Evaluating _PMC (20160831/power_meter-755) Nothing else was displayed so after 10 minutes or so I hit CTL-ALT-DEL. The system shut down then, displaying 30-40 messages during the shutdown process. I tried several workarounds to no effect. Then I booted Debian 9.4 Live from DVD (which had no problems booting) and looked in FSTAB on /dev/sda3 (root) to see what should have been mounted after /dev/sda3: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # # / was on /dev/sda3 during installation UUID=fd77e2aa-5e75-4fe8-b52a-5811150fc417 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /backup was on /dev/sdc1 during installation UUID=eacce656-6154-42bf-911c-0818ff1074ea /backup ext3defaults 0 2 # /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation UUID=dd2ce01b-5ab7-4585-a44b-26886581f35d /boot ext2defaults 0 2 # /storage was on /dev/sda4 during installation UUID=39ae4fcb-3189-4190-9b0e-f5a291244dc3 /storageext4defaults 0 2 # swap was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=92116329-d410-4dda-b2dc-503b83b4a2c2 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/sr0/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 # /home was on /dev/sdb1 during installation (mounted as /newhome) # below disk failed and was replaced on 2018-07-16 # UUID=5b9811c9-bdd6-48ea-b0fb-943b40cedbf3 /home ext4defaults 0 2 UUID=8e89e13a-2da4-4eb4-9370-30e94f930216 /home ext4defaults 0 2 I commented out the /dev/sdc1 on /backup line and tried booting again. I got the above error messages but then the boot completed. So I'm now able to boot my server again but I have to mount /backup manually. Any thoughts on how to fix the problem so I can put /backup back in FSTAB?
Re: New stretch kernel: lilo boot fails with "EBDA is big" message
On Fri Oct 13 2017 at 01:20 AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Bill Brelsford wrote: > > > This doesn't explain why I got the EBDA message in the first place, > > but all is working now.. > > once again the question: why not use grub? Lilo has always met my needs well, so, although I've considered grub, I've never felt the need to switch. But it was one of the next steps I was considering in this case -- especially if the problem turned out to be lilo.
Re: New stretch kernel: lilo boot fails with "EBDA is big" message
On Mon Oct 09 2017 at 12:50 AM +0200, Bill Brelsford wrote: > After the stretch 9.2 kernel upgrade to 4.9.0-4, lilo gives, at > boot, "EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage" > and freezes. Problem solved. This is a dual-boot system, with the Win 10 bootloader passing control to lilo in the partion boot sector. The bootloader was configured by EasyBCD (in windows), which apparently saves its own copy of the partition boot sector, so ignored changes to lilo.conf. Guess I'll have to boot windows and refresh whenever the kernel is updated. (I originally tried to use lilo to dual-boot, but ran into problems with windows.) This doesn't explain why I got the EBDA message in the first place, but all is working now.. -- Bill Brelsford wbr...@k2di.net
New stretch kernel: lilo boot fails with "EBDA is big" message
After the stretch 9.2 kernel upgrade to 4.9.0-4, lilo gives, at boot, "EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage" and freezes. Steps: - After upgrading, I installed irqbalance before re-booting. - Lilo then gave "Loading linux" followed by a line and a half of "." and hung, both for the new and old (4.9.0-3) kernels. - Using the stretch install disk for rescue, I purged irqbalance and re-ran lilo. - Now I get the "EBDA" message for the new kernel, but the old one boots normally. - I've re-installed the kernel package and re-generated initramfs (and re-run lilo), but it still fails. The most common cause of the EBDA message seems to be neglecting to run lilo, but I've done that. Output from lilo -v appears to be correct. I upgraded 4 other machines with no problem. All are i686 with similar configuration, except that the failing one installs the boot loader in a partition rather than in the MBR. Suggestions? -- Bill Brelsford wbr...@k2di.net
trouble setting up raid1
Hi, I'm trying to install a twelfth raid 1 partition on Jessie 8.5 and a 5 TB HDD using gpt. Raid partitions 0 through 10 have presented no problem, but the twelfth pair of partitions won't pair up. After I've selected /dev/sda12 and /dev/sdb12, Continue and then Finish from the menu, I've still only got Raid device numbers 0-10. /dev/sda12 and /dev/sdb12 remain unlocked and available for reconfiguration - unlike devices 0-10 which show up on the main menu as Raid devices. I'd guess that it's highly unlikely that there's a maximum number of Raid partitions, although I could live with it, but why is Partman rejecting my overtures? And BTW is there any way to unlock or back out of a raid setup during configuration just in case I need to change something. How can I delete a raid device and start over if I have to? fdisk? Bill
Re: MySQL access denied for user
Bill Wohler <woh...@newt.com> wrote: > I'm getting the following: > > $ mysql -h localhost -u user > Enter password: > ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'user'@'localhost' (using > password: YES) > > This user was created with a fresh installation of mysql as (mysql) root > with the following: > > mysql> create user 'user'@'localhost' identified by 'password'; > Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) > mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, > CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON database.* TO 'user'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY > 'password' with grant option; > Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) > > I'm trying to create a database user for Drupal, but am not having any > luck. Help for a MySQL newb is very much appreciated. I should point out that I've installed Drupal 8 from drupal.org since that isn't available to jessie (to my knowledge). I'd much prefer to say aptitude install drupal8 and get on with my web site rather than fight battles with mysql for literally days. > This is on jessie with MySQL 5.5. > > -- > Bill Wohler <woh...@newt.com> aka <bill.woh...@nasa.gov> > http://www.newt.com/wohler/ > GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- Bill Wohler <woh...@newt.com> aka <bill.woh...@nasa.gov> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD
MySQL access denied for user
I'm getting the following: $ mysql -h localhost -u user Enter password: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'user'@'localhost' (using password: YES) This user was created with a fresh installation of mysql as (mysql) root with the following: mysql> create user 'user'@'localhost' identified by 'password'; Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON database.* TO 'user'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password' with grant option; Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) I'm trying to create a database user for Drupal, but am not having any luck. Help for a MySQL newb is very much appreciated. This is on jessie with MySQL 5.5. -- Bill Wohler <woh...@newt.com> aka <bill.woh...@nasa.gov> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD
Re: Wheezy to Jessie update problem: packages with bugs
Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> writes: > I would do the dist-upgrade first and clear up any mess remaining afterwards. Thanks, Lisi. I was coming to that conclusion, too, but I was looking for any sort of confirmation that I wasn't guaranteed to brick the machine. I'll report back, assuming that the results of this adventure don't brick my machine /and/ my network. :-) Bill
Re: Wheezy to Jessie update problem: packages with bugs
Bill Harris <bill_har...@facilitatedsystems.com> writes: > - I have yet to do the `apt dist-upgrade` (I downloaded all the packages > and then quit), so I've got to do that at some time. > > - My question was whether I > > - reinstall the packages first, and then do the dist-upgrade later, or > > - do the dist-upgrade first, and then reinstall the packages later. > > - I am guessing that I should reinstall the packages first. > > - No matter which order I use, it sounds like I have at least two > choices for the reinstall: > > - `apt-get install --reinstall` > > Thanks; I had guessed the --reinstall would come before install. > > Not that it matters, but, from a bit of reading, it sounds as if > `apt-get install /wheezy` might work, too. > > - `aptitude reinstall ` > > Which is, in a way, cleaner, although I seem to recall cautions > about mixing apt-get and aptitude, and this would be mixing them > closely. (Yes, I know I'll be mixing them anyway, if I go back to > aptitude once Wheezy is fully installed. Starting the first option (reinstall packages first), I did reinstall emacs24, and it brought along a number of other packages. I was going to reinstall dbus, the next in the list I posted, but apt complained that I lack libaudit1. I started to install that, but apt said it would upgrade 494, install 324 new, and /remove/ 1310 packages. That seemed risky. In continuing experimentation, the list of packages with bugs I get when runnign apt-get dist-upgrade changes--or at least the order changes--each time I run it. In addition, if I follow up on individual bugs, sometimes I see mention of sid, which is not part of my sources.list, and I've never run sid on this machine. I know no one can know the answer to this, but what do you see as the risk in just running `apt-get dist-upgrade` in my current state? - I /think/ it might be able to resolve things by itself, and the bugs might turn out to be cases I never see. My other Jessie machine seems to be working fine, except that suspending broke on some update a month or so ago. - In the worst case, I'd need to go to another machine, make a netinstall disk, and start over from scratch. That's an obvious pain, but my /home should be okay (it's backed up, and it's on a separate partition, too). Any suggestions? If I should just keep trying reinstalling, I can do that, but I figure that dist-upgrade might do a better job than me of keeping dependencies in mind. In other words, I get nervous when installing one packages leads to deleting lots of packages. Thanks, Bill
Re: Wheezy to Jessie update problem: packages with bugs
Gary Dale <garyd...@torfree.net> writes: > On 04/07/16 03:23 PM, Bill Harris wrote: >>> The simplest solution would be to reinstall the offending >>> packages. Apt-get doesn't have that option but aptitude does. I can't >>> try this at home but it may resolve the conflicts. Install aptitude >>> and give it a try. >> >> Gary, >> >> I like simple. To be clear, is this the sequence you're proposing? >> >> - Now that I've deleted backports from my sources.list, run `aptitude >>install emacs24` and so forth through the list. >> >> - Then run `apt-get dist-upgrade`. >> >> - Reboot into Jessie. >> >> The alternative seems to be >> >> - Run `apt-get dist-upgrade`. >> >> - Run `aptitude install emacs24` and so forth through the list. >> >> - Reboot into Jessie. >> >> The first sounds correct, but this isn't fully a Jessie system yet, and >> I'd be reinstalling packages that only came with dist-upgrade. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill >> > Not even close. I was suggesting installing aptitude then use the > reinstall option to reinstall the packages. I think I'm not understanding. I'll try to be clearer on my end to see if that helps: - I do have aptitude, so I don't have to install it. In fact, I usually use aptitude, but the release notes for Wheezy (https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgradingpackages) suggested using apt-get for this upgrade to reduce the chance of problems. - I have yet to do the `apt dist-upgrade` (I downloaded all the packages and then quit), so I've got to do that at some time. - My question was whether I - reinstall the packages first, and then do the dist-upgrade later, or - do the dist-upgrade first, and then reinstall the packages later. - I am guessing that I should reinstall the packages first. - No matter which order I use, it sounds like I have at least two choices for the reinstall: - `apt-get install --reinstall` Thanks; I had guessed the --reinstall would come before install. Not that it matters, but, from a bit of reading, it sounds as if `apt-get install /wheezy` might work, too. - `aptitude reinstall ` Which is, in a way, cleaner, although I seem to recall cautions about mixing apt-get and aptitude, and this would be mixing them closely. (Yes, I know I'll be mixing them anyway, if I go back to aptitude once Wheezy is fully installed. Thanks to you and Cindy for your help. Does that clarify my remaining confusion? Bill
Re: Wheezy to Jessie update problem: packages with bugs
Gary Dale <garyd...@torfree.net> writes: > On 04/07/16 12:32 PM, Bill Harris wrote: >> Summary: >> emacs24(1 bug), dbus(1 bug), gnome-settings-daemon(1 bug), libxml2(1 bug), >> debhelper(1 bug), openbsd-inetd(1 bug), smartmontools(1 bug), ruby-hpricot(1 >> bug), cdrdao(1 bug), libgluegen2-rt-java(1 bug), ndiff(1 bug), >> apt-xapian-index(1 bug), firefox-esr(3 bugs), dasher(1 bug), minissdpd(1 >> bug), iceweasel(1 bug), evolution-data-server(1 bug), python-mock(1 bug), >> grub-pc-bin(1 bug), hdparm(1 bug), gdm3(3 bugs), libpoppler-glib8(1 bug), >> logrotate(1 bug), evolution(2 bugs), xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion(1 >> bug), q4wine(1 bug), lynx-cur(1 bug), gparted(1 bug), freehdl(1 bug), >> totem(1 bug), nfs-common(1 bug), python-paramiko(1 bug), ed(1 bug), >> libfreetype6(1 bug), busybox(1 bug), libarchive13(1 bug), libnl-3-200(1 >> bug), googleearth-package(1 bug), grub2-common(1 bug), empathy(1 bug), >> samba-common-bin(1 bug), udisks2(1 bug), stunnel4(2 bugs), pinentry-gtk2(1 >> bug), synergy(1 bug), cron(1 bug), dh-python(2 bugs), init-system-helpers(1 >> bug), cups-driver-gutenprint(1 bug) >> Here is my sources.list: >> >> , >> | # >> | >> | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST >> Binary-1 20111008-19:52]/ jessie main >> | >> | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST >> Binary-1 20111008-19:52]/ jessie main >> | >> | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib >> | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib >> | >> | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free >> | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free >> | >> | # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile' >> | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free >> | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib >> non-free >> | >> | # R backports at http://cran.fhcrc.org/ >> | deb http://cran.fhcrc.org/bin/linux/debian jessie-cran3/ >> | >> | # Jessie backports http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ >> | # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free >> | >> ` > The simplest solution would be to reinstall the offending > packages. Apt-get doesn't have that option but aptitude does. I can't > try this at home but it may resolve the conflicts. Install aptitude > and give it a try. Gary, I like simple. To be clear, is this the sequence you're proposing? - Now that I've deleted backports from my sources.list, run `aptitude install emacs24` and so forth through the list. - Then run `apt-get dist-upgrade`. - Reboot into Jessie. The alternative seems to be - Run `apt-get dist-upgrade`. - Run `aptitude install emacs24` and so forth through the list. - Reboot into Jessie. The first sounds correct, but this isn't fully a Jessie system yet, and I'd be reinstalling packages that only came with dist-upgrade. Thanks, Bill
Re: Wheezy to Jessie update problem: packages with bugs
Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflyby...@gmail.com> writes: > I've used "apt-get install --reinstall" successfully a couple times > during issues. From "man apt-get", this flag's description is: > > "Re-install packages that are already installed and at the newest version." I thought I had seen that apt could do that. Thanks. > Just thinking out loud. :) Thanks, Cindy. Is there an easy way to `apt-get install --reinstall` and have it pick up those packages with bugs, or is it easier to enter the command once for each package? Bill
Wheezy to Jessie update problem: packages with bugs
xml2(1 bug), debhelper(1 bug), openbsd-inetd(1 bug), smartmontools(1 bug), ruby-hpricot(1 bug), cdrdao(1 bug), libgluegen2-rt-java(1 bug), ndiff(1 bug), apt-xapian-index(1 bug), firefox-esr(3 bugs), dasher(1 bug), minissdpd(1 bug), iceweasel(1 bug), evolution-data-server(1 bug), python-mock(1 bug), grub-pc-bin(1 bug), hdparm(1 bug), gdm3(3 bugs), libpoppler-glib8(1 bug), logrotate(1 bug), evolution(2 bugs), xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion(1 bug), q4wine(1 bug), lynx-cur(1 bug), gparted(1 bug), freehdl(1 bug), totem(1 bug), nfs-common(1 bug), python-paramiko(1 bug), ed(1 bug), libfreetype6(1 bug), busybox(1 bug), libarchive13(1 bug), libnl-3-200(1 bug), googleearth-package(1 bug), grub2-common(1 bug), empathy(1 bug), samba-common-bin(1 bug), udisks2(1 bug), stunnel4(2 bugs), pinentry-gtk2(1 bug), synergy(1 bug), cron(1 bug), dh-python(2 bugs), init-system-helpers(1 bug), cups-driver-gutenprint(1 bug) Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...] n ** ** Exiting with an error in order to stop the installation. ** ** E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt || exit 10 returned an error code (10) E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt || exit 10 real0m33.724s user0m6.276s sys 0m0.300s Here is my sources.list: , | # | | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20111008-19:52]/ jessie main | | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20111008-19:52]/ jessie main | | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib | | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free | | # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile' | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free | | # R backports at http://cran.fhcrc.org/ | deb http://cran.fhcrc.org/bin/linux/debian jessie-cran3/ | | # Jessie backports http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ | # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free | ` I commented out the backports entry and ran apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and apt-get dist-upgrade before getting the above output. I am guessing there are two problems--one with texlive and one with packages with errors. Any advice on how to proceed efficiently and successfully? - Accept all these; they aren't really bad. - I don't really care about Evolution, as I use Gnus. - I'll likely replace gutenprint with what comes with the latest hplips. - Still, I would use emacs24, gnome, and others here. - Pin them all (there are a lot). - If you suggest this, advice on how would be helpful. I only get Y/n options, no ability to pin one package at a time. - Something else? Thanks, Bill
Re: aptitude/dpkg fails at Preparing to unpack
On Wed Aug 19 2015 at 11:40 AM +0200, Darac Marjal wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:32:24AM -0700, Bill Brelsford wrote: Recent security updates on jessie (i486) have failed: # aptitude update ... # aptitude -DPR safe-upgrade The following packages will be upgraded: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common ... Reading changelogs... Done (Reading database ... 72512 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0_2.31.1-2+deb8u2_i386.deb ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly Failed to perform requested operation on package. Trying to recover: Installing or removing specific packages also fails. apt-get works fine, but subsequent aptitude runs fail the same way. First of all, eliminate the obvious: Do you have enough free space (and free inodes) in order to unpack the archive? Yes. Secondly, is the unpack process segfaulting? You might not see a message at the console, but check if the kernel has logged an error. No sign of segfaulting. My other jessie system doesn't have this problem, so I assume something is corrupt. But I can't find a way to repair it. Suggestions? (Aptitude version is 0.6.11-1+b1, dpkg 1.17.25.) Thanks for the response. Digging further (belatedly), the problem appears to be that my calling script exported SHELL=/bin/false into the environment, apparently causing dpkg to fail. Works fine with it removed. Strange that it appeared suddenly and that it didn't affect my other jessie system..
aptitude/dpkg fails at Preparing to unpack
Recent security updates on jessie (i486) have failed: # aptitude update ... # aptitude -DPR safe-upgrade The following packages will be upgraded: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common ... Reading changelogs... Done (Reading database ... 72512 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0_2.31.1-2+deb8u2_i386.deb ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly Failed to perform requested operation on package. Trying to recover: Installing or removing specific packages also fails. apt-get works fine, but subsequent aptitude runs fail the same way. My other jessie system doesn't have this problem, so I assume something is corrupt. But I can't find a way to repair it. Suggestions? (Aptitude version is 0.6.11-1+b1, dpkg 1.17.25.)
Open ports
Hi, I'm still running wheezy but noticed a couple of open ports the other day. This is just a simple laptop - no nfs access needed, no need for a networked port mapper, and certainly not a dns server. So why are they there, what uses them and why shouldn't I close them? (I'm assuming there must be a good reason to have wide open ports.) Thanks, b. # netstat -nplt Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1904/rpcbind tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:51062 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1935/rpc.statd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/554deeab.8000...@uniserve.com
Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie
On 04/27/2015 07:04 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Have you rebooted, using that kernel? What does uname -r say? I have rebooted, but the new kernel has not installed. Here is uname -r: 2.6.32-5-486 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553ec368.10...@earthlink.net
Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie
On 04/27/2015 07:05 PM, The Wanderer wrote: A few thoughts: 1. Is there a reason why you need 'apt-get -f install packagename'? Does it error out if you just run 'apt-get install packagename'? I used -f because the output suggested I use it. 2. What happens if you try to install linux-image-586 instead, or even the specific-kernel-version package which it depends on (linux-image-3.16.0-4-586)? linux-image-486 is just a dummy package depending on the -586 package anyway. Even if it still fails, you may get a more helpful error message. Here is the output from sudo apt-get install linux-image-586: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: consolekit : Breaks: udev ( 204-1) but 175-7.2 is to be installed linux-image-586 : Depends: linux-image-3.16.0-4-586 but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). And from sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.16.0-4-586: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: consolekit : Breaks: udev ( 204-1) but 175-7.2 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553ec321.4010...@earthlink.net
[SOLVED] Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie
On a whim, I decided to see what would happen if I uninstalled consolekit. Lo and behold, after uninstalling it, I was able to upgrade the kernel normally and run a normal upgrade. Thanks to everyone who offered help. Replying to your responses helped me think through this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553ee03c.60...@earthlink.net
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie
On 04/27/2015 09:26 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 04/27/2015 at 09:19 PM, Bill Baker wrote: On a whim, I decided to see what would happen if I uninstalled consolekit. Lo and behold, after uninstalling it, I was able to upgrade the kernel normally and run a normal upgrade. Thanks to everyone who offered help. Replying to your responses helped me think through this. Hm. I thought that there would be dependencies on consolekit which would prevent that from working, or would require you to uninstall a lot of your system to let it go through; otherwise I might have suggested it myself. Glad you're back in working order now, even if I don't quite understand the mechanism. That's what I thought at first, too. But when I ran 'apt-get remove consolekit', it didn't report any dependencies. I expected to see a list as long as my arm, but nope. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553ee27c.8070...@earthlink.net
Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie
Over the weekend, I upgraded my headless ssh server from wheezy to jessie. It's an older computer, built in the year 2000 with an AMD-K6 processor. Uname -a returns the following: Linux shunnel 2.6.32-5-486 #1 Mon Feb 25 00:22:26 UTC 2013 i586 GNU/Linux Since upgrading, whenever I try to do an apt-get upgrade, I get this: --- Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: consolekit : Breaks: udev ( 204-1) but 175-7.2 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. --- So next, I ran apt-get -f install. Here's what I got: --- Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libffi5 libprocps0 libsystemd-login0 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: udev The following packages will be upgraded: udev 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 91 not upgraded. 7 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/880 kB of archives. After this operation, 5,092 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Reading changelogs... Done Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 33222 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../archives/udev_215-17_i386.deb ... Since release 198, udev requires support for the following features in the running kernel: - inotify(2)(CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER) - signalfd(2) (CONFIG_SIGNALFD) - accept4(2) - open_by_handle_at(2) (CONFIG_FHANDLE) - timerfd_create(2) (CONFIG_TIMERFD) - epoll_create(2) (CONFIG_EPOLL) Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev. AT YOUR OWN RISK, you can force the installation of this version of udev WHICH DOES NOT WORK WITH YOUR RUNNING KERNEL AND WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM AT THE NEXT REBOOT by creating the /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade file. There is always a safer way to upgrade, do not try this unless you understand what you are doing! dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_215-17_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_215-17_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) --- I even tried upgrading the kernel with apt-get -f install linux-image-486: --- Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: consolekit : Breaks: udev ( 204-1) but 175-7.2 is to be installed linux-image-486 : Depends: linux-image-586 but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). --- Anyone have any ideas on what I can try next?
Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie
On 04/27/2015 06:23 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 28.04.2015 um 00:05 schrieb Bill Baker: Over the weekend, I upgraded my headless ssh server from wheezy to jessie. It's an older computer, built in the year 2000 with an AMD-K6 processor. Uname -a returns the following: Linux shunnel 2.6.32-5-486 #1 Mon Feb 25 00:22:26 UTC 2013 i586 GNU/Linux That kernel is not from wheezy. Yeah, that's probably the kernel from squeeze, the version that was out when I first installed it. Anyone have any ideas on what I can try next? First upgrade your kernel to the wheezy version (reboot) and everything will be fine. Dist-upgrades been foo and foo+2 (or greater) are not really supported. I already tried that. From my original email: I even tried upgrading the kernel with apt-get -f install linux-image-486: --- Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: consolekit : Breaks: udev ( 204-1) but 175-7.2 is to be installed linux-image-486 : Depends: linux-image-586 but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553ebef5.6050...@earthlink.net
Xorg / vt blank-screen problem
Since updating to kernel 3.16-1-686-pae (and with newer ones), when I start X I usually get a back-lit blank screen. Switching back to vt1 usually works (shows the X dialog); switching to vt7 a second time usually works (shows my X session), but sometimes not. Once X works, going back to vt1 almost always gives a blank screen. I'm running an Asus S62E laptop with no xorg.conf (except one for the synaptics touchpad). Same results in sid and jessie. All works normally if I boot the 3.14-2 kernel. The problem seems to be intermittent, perhaps a race condition. Ideas? Workarounds? Thanks.. Bill -- Bill Brelsford wbr...@k2di.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/e1xt4mg-0006pd-hw...@k2di.net
Re: [SOLVED] /root is full
I knew because you said that you had tried to backup some files to storage and sdb13 was not mounted on storage. So where those files went was into / partition. When you mounted sdb13 on top of /storage, all those files became inaccessible but they were still there taking up stace. This happened to me 25 years ago (SunOS). William G. Unruh | Canadian Institute for| Tel: +1(604)822-3273 PhysicsAstronomy | Advanced Research | Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC | Program in Cosmology | un...@physics.ubc.ca Canada V6T 1Z1 | and Gravity | www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ On Tue, 29 Jul 2014, Haines Brown wrote: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on rootfs474440 474440 0 100% / udev 102400 10240 0% /dev tmpfs 830924 1572829352 1% /run /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3a2... 474440 474440 0 100% / /dev/sdb5 48062440 10165348 35455616 23% /home /dev/sdb6 28834716 4261020 23108972 16% /usr /dev/sdb7 38448276 2372784 34122392 7% /var /dev/sdb8 19228276 994260 17257268 6% /tmp /dev/sdb9 38448276 12808004 23687172 36% /usr/local /dev/sdb12 96124904 11577356 79664596 13% /info /dev/sdb13 192243928 58177436 124300984 32% /storage Note that find will NOT find files hidden under the mount point /storage. And that is where the problem lies. You MUST unmount /storage first to find those files. William, you found the problem. I didn't think to look into /storage mount point because the partition that was full was /, and so only looked for unwanted files in /mnt and /media. How did you know that /storage was the culprit, and how could it affect /? I now have: $ df Filesystem1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on rootfs 474440 257750192193 58% / udev 102400 10240 0% /dev tmpfs830924 1572829352 1% /run /dev/disk/by-uuid/UUID of sdb1 474440 257750192193 58% / /dev/sdb5 48062440 10100468 35520496 23% /home /dev/sdb6 28834716 4261084 23108908 16% /usr /dev/sdb7 38448276 2373524 34121652 7% /var /dev/sdb8 19228276 994244 17257284 6% /tmp /dev/sdb9 38448276 12808004 23687172 36% /usr/local /dev/sdb12 96124904 11577368 79664584 13% /info /dev/disk/by-uuid/UUID of sdb1 474440 257750192193 58% / /dev/sdb13192243928 58177436 124300984 32% /storage My / usage is still huge, 258 Mb, but at least the full problem is gone. I hope I can ignore the doubly mounted root partition. It is no problem. The new Mageia/kernel/mount tends to do that-- No idea why. Try du --max-depth 2 -x / to find which directories are problematic for size. Haines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.lmd.2.02.1407291136170.31...@info.physics.ubc.ca
Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management
On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 16:17 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: . . . It involves skull sweat. Now there's a new term - I usually find my skin sweats, although to be honest I'm really not sure about my skull, since it's hidden from my immediate view. Just FYI, Robert Heinlein used skull sweat as a metaphorical term for the effort involved in concentrated thought such as problem solving. Given that concentrated thinking burns energy, hence calories, just as physical exercise does, it's not a bad image. -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400482736.3989.7.camel@bills-debian
Re: Heartbleed
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 14:39 -0500, John Hasler wrote: . . . I keep information secret when revealing it might harm me. I make no deliberate effort to keep stuff secret just to prevent it from benefiting someone else. Of course, that requires the ability to discern when some information might be harmful. Take for example current controversies over services like Amazon and Google and the filter bubble: Do you consider it harmful for them to tailor your experience to their estimate of what you want? Should the fact that I browsed over Marx' Das Kapital mean that subsequent searches for Economics and Social Philosophy will bury Socialism by von Mises so deep I won't see it? Some think it nifty while it scares the hell out of others. -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1397766340.31148.11.camel@bills-debian
Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 09:01 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:54 AM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: . . . What is medical identity theft? Theft of patient identity information, usually for the purpose of insurance fraud. I'd also be interested seeing the proof for the claim (I think he means medical data breaches but IDK anyone has disclosed that information). My brother was heavily involved in bringing hospitals into HIPAA compliance after the Act was implemented in, I think, 1996. He subsequently consulted for the state government and hospital systems defining security and privacy policies and conducting audits until his retirement a few years ago. He told me yesterday (U.S. CDT) about the sharp rise in patient identity theft in recent years. His comment was that ID theft occurred more often as 1-1 cases than as massive breaches like the recent Target exploits. Apparently the goal is usually to obtain health services and prescriptions from another person's insurance. The consequences of the corruption of the victim's medical records can be devastating. -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1397659016.27492.37.camel@bills-debian
Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 15:55 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: . . . BTW Revenue Canada was hacked by this bug and publicly admitted so. So far only a minimal number of people were affected. They were offline for several days. I've been following this thread since it started, as well as some other Internet sites that have been mentioned, and I have noticed that everyone talks about the impact on the financial services sector but no one has mentioned the health care information sector. I understand that healthcare systems use SSL a great deal, and medical identity theft has risen sharply in recent years. Does anyone know if there have been any exploits of Heartbleed in this sector, or if any healthcare organizations have said anything about fixing the problem? -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1397619146.26973.8.camel@bills-debian
Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience
On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 19:14 +, Brian wrote: . . . This is the fourth or fifth time in this thread a recommendation to use ~/.xinitrc has been made. No sensible Debian user would have such a file in his account. A happy Debian system is one with ~/.xsession. I'm a Debian newbie, so -- why? -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395518578.7408.1.camel@bills-debian
Re: Check Update, Update and Port Blocking
On Wed, 2014-03-05 at 18:53 +, Joe wrote: . . . From your last post: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/contrib/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 Could not connect passive socket. [IP: 64.50.233.100 21] Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/contrib/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 Could not connect passive socket. [IP: 64.50.233.100 21] Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 Could not connect passive socket. [IP: 64.50.233.100 21] Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. The 'ftp:' at the beginning of the URL shows that it is indeed attempting to connect by FTP, as does the reference to 'passive socket' and the '21' after the IP address. FTP uses separate control and data channels, in one of two different ways, and either way, any firewall in between the ends must know enough to associate the two channels. Hence the ftp_conntrack module (or whatever it is called these days) in iptables to do this very job. Change the ftp://ftp.us in all of your /etc/apt/sources.list entries to http://ftp.us and all will probably be well. Note that the site hostname still begins 'ftp', but it's the part before the colon that matters. I checked /etc/apt/sources.list and found deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib It appears that none of the entries start with ftp:. So is there a possible Plan B at the OS or am I really going to have to hammer on Comcast? Thank you and thanks to all who replied to my earlier posts about this, -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1394564974.11297.9.camel@bills-debian
Re: On what is helpful and what is not [was: Re: Wifi]
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 10:34 -0400, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: . . . The phoentic would be noob. Which is part of my confusion. That and having never seen the word nub used in the context like you had When I first read the sentence with nub in it I was completely confused because I was reading it to rhyme with the English words cub, rub and tub. Two common meanings for that pronunciation are 1) a knob or stub, as in the nub of a cut-off finger, and 2) the heart or core of something, as in the nub of the problem (I'd guess the second meaning is the root of the Haskell function 'nub' which returns the list of elements of a list with all duplicates removed). Anyway after reading the post more carefully I guessed that nub was being used for newb, and I conjectured that the writer was such a newb he didn't know how to spell newb; obviously I was very wrong about that, sorry! So perhaps the International Committee for the Preservation of the One True Jargon will call a plenary session and vote to change the spelling to nube, in analogy with the English words cube, rube and tube, all rhyming with newb. *sigh* Probably not. -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1394481628.9425.4.camel@bills-debian
Re: Test
On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 00:11 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: . . . That's not moderation (it would also be impossible to do with open lists), it's just oversight ;) I hope oversight works better here than in other all-to-familiar contexts. -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1394245749.6146.1.camel@bills-debian
Re: Check Update, Update and Port Blocking
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 07:09 -0500, PaulNM wrote: . . . On second though, I just re-read the OP's message. He's talking about the firewall on the Comcast modem/router. It's really rare for those types of devices to have outgoing filtering. However, according to: http://media2.comcast.net/anon.comcastonline2/support/userguides/Wireless_Gateway_User_Guide_030811.pdf It does filter outgoing, but high *does* allow 80, 443, and a bunch of common ports. I really suspect dns/mirror issues, but it would probably be worth the OP's time to try dropping the firewall level and test again. I've done a couple of such tests and I *think* check update works at the lowest firewall level. I do have a much more focused question: Does either Check Update or Download Updates require FTP? I have a suspicion that Port 21 may be blocked at the higher firewall levels. Thanks for any assistance, -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1394038167.2579.4.camel@bills-debian
Re: Check Update, Update and Port Blocking
This is an update on my post on 02/20. I got the yellow triangle icon again so I went into admin for my Wireless Gateway and reset the security level to intermediate or typical. I then clicked on the icon and selected check updates. The usual dialog box appeared and it started checking for updates. A text box then appeared entitled Could not download all repository indices with the following text: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/contrib/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 Could not connect passive socket. [IP: 64.50.233.100 21] Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/contrib/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 Could not connect passive socket. [IP: 64.50.233.100 21] Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 Could not connect passive socket. [IP: 64.50.233.100 21] Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Are these servers still available or do I have a problem on my end? Thanks, -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1393813272.27707.7.camel@bills-debian
Check Update, Update and Port Blocking
Do the protocols used for automatic check for updates and for updates require specific ports to be available? I recently switched my cable modem to a Comcast Internet Gateway 1with the firewall set to high security and subsequently a couple of update check icons appeared indicating an error condition to to failure to access a file server. I am currently running Debian 6.0.9 (Squeeze) stable. I want to upgrade to 7 but don't want to get hung up with bad downloads due to port blocking by the firewall. Thanks, -- Bill Wood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1392690508.5535.6.camel@bills-debian
Re: Backup/Restore software?
Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: There are so many solutions that I can easily spend a week or more to evaluate and compare them all. You already got a lot of suggestions for file-based approaches. I must have trashed the start of this thread, so I don't know everything that has been mentioned, but I've found rdiff-backup to work well for several years. I've never had to restore everything, but I have successfully restored files. Bill -- Bill Harris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87eha9o1qb@facilitatedsystems.com
davfs2: umount no longer waits for cache synchronization
Beginning with 1.4.7-1.1 (wheezy), unmounting a davfs filesystem returns immediately: $ umount /foo/dav $ The waiting while mount.davfs (pid ) synchronizes the cache message is not printed; cache synchronization continues in the background. It appears that umount.davfs is not being called. Bug? Or do I have something configured wrong? -- Bill Brelsford w...@k2di.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1ungbr-0003sp-md@k2di.net
Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome
cletusjenkins cletusjenk...@zoho.com writes: I recently bought a laptop, it came pre-installed with wheezy (because the nvidia driver needed a newer kernel). I really dislike the new version of gnome. I feel like my expensive laptop is hobbled. It feels like a slow $100 android tablet instead of a powerful computer. I can't customize anything about the desktop. This is beginning to be more an more and more of a feature for me. Anyway, folks traumatized by GNOME 3 might be interested in my blog, Why I hate GNOME 3.0: http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#hate-gnome-3 I would also encourage you to read my blog, Why I love GNOME 3.0: http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#love-gnome-3 These were written when 3.0 first came out (on Fedora, which I was using at work). I'm looking forward to trying 3.4 when I have time to upgrade to wheezy. Everything is buried under layers and layers of menus and all the apps are in jumbled lists. I installed several other desktops, icewm, lxde, kde, etc. I've never really liked KDE, but it seems to have decided to go in much of the same direction gnome has (and windows 8, so maybe just maybe someone at gnome should do some serious thinking about that, if you find you are doing the same thing microsoft is doing that should be a ). I like using LXDE and some of the other alternative on older, low-power machines, but most still have a hodge-podge look that screams windows 95. Icewm was my favorite in the early 0x, but they lost me when icepref disappeared. Anywhoo. xfce looks the best of the bunch to me. My old laptop (the one I'm writing this on) has squeeze with gnome 2.30.2. Is there anyway to get an actual gnome *desktop* on wheezy sans all this metro-esque crap? -- clet debian is my main squeeze -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ppwvfy26@olgas.newt.com
Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily
Bill Harris wsharri...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for your quick response. The laptop is currently crashed, and so I'll check logs and more later. I discovered uprecords a while back, and I booted into W7 and launched IE last night, and then I shut down again. Then I booted Debian. This time it worked, but I have no reason to believe that following those steps is anything more than superstition. Before that, I had tried a reboot into Debian recovery mode, and I continued on rather than entering a root password for maintenance. Somewhere in there it crashed with a log file on the screen. I don't know for sure what log file that was nor whether it wrote it to disk, but I found similar messages in 'messages' from the day before when I was trying to boot when I rebooted last night. Here is a section from 'messages' (one of several) where it said cut here (I presume that's important :-) ): Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.293881] [ cut here ] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.293916] WARNING: at /build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.32-48squeeze1-amd64-qu4MIV/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_amd64_none/net/mac80211/tx.c:1330 ieee80211_tx+0x1ad/0x1d3 [mac80211]() Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.293922] Hardware name: HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.293924] tx refused but queue active Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.293927] Modules linked in: nls_utf8 nls_cp437 vfat fat usb_storage xt_limit xt_tcpudp ipt_LOG ipt_MASQUERADE xt_DSCP ipt_REJECT nf_conntrack_irc nf_conntrack_ftp xt_state aes_x86_64 aes_generic usbhid hid parport_pc ppdev lp parport sco bridge stp bnep l2cap bluetooth acpi_cpufreq cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_stats cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave nfsd lockd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss binfmt_misc sunrpc exportfs uinput fuse iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack nf_defrag_ipv4 iptable_mangle iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables ext4 jbd2 crc16 loop snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_idt snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm snd_seq arc4 ecb uvcvideo snd_timer radeon snd_seq_device i915 joydev videodev ttm brcm80211(C) snd v4l1_compat drm_kms_helper mac80211 v4l2_compat_ioctl32 hp_accel psmouse soundcore drm lis3lv02d i2c_i801 cfg80211 i2c_algo_bit input_polldev i2c_core video snd_page_alloc wmi output rfkill pcspkr evdev led_class serio_raw battery ac processor Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: button ext3 jbd mbcache sg sr_mod sd_mod crc_t10dif cdrom ahci ehci_hcd libata usbcore nls_base scsi_mod r8169 mii thermal thermal_sys [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294040] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: G C 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294044] Call Trace: Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294046] IRQ [a021771d] ? ieee80211_tx+0x1ad/0x1d3 [mac80211] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294077] [a021771d] ? ieee80211_tx+0x1ad/0x1d3 [mac80211] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294086] [8104dfcc] ? warn_slowpath_common+0x77/0xa3 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294091] [8104e054] ? warn_slowpath_fmt+0x51/0x59 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294105] [a0207b34] ? sta_info_get+0x2e/0x43 [mac80211] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294133] [a027ad0c] ? wl_ops_tx+0x5f/0x66 [brcm80211] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294148] [a0217502] ? __ieee80211_tx+0xeb/0x159 [mac80211] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294162] [a021771d] ? ieee80211_tx+0x1ad/0x1d3 [mac80211] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294179] [a021795d] ? ieee80211_xmit+0x21a/0x23b [mac80211] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294193] [a0218847] ? ieee80211_subif_start_xmit+0x664/0x685 [mac80211] Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294203] [810e63a5] ? virt_to_head_page+0x9/0x2a Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294213] [812515cc] ? dev_hard_start_xmit+0x211/0x2db Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294219] [812645cc] ? sch_direct_xmit+0x58/0x14c Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294225] [812519e9] ? dev_queue_xmit+0x252/0x38d Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294231] [81278db9] ? ip_queue_xmit+0x311/0x386 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294237] [8128974d] ? tcp_xmit_probe_skb+0x1f/0xc8 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294243] [8103a371] ? enqueue_task+0x5f/0x68 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294248] [8128974d] ? tcp_xmit_probe_skb+0x1f/0xc8 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294254] [812896ef] ? tcp_transmit_skb+0x648/0x687 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294259] [81249bec] ? __alloc_skb+0x69/0x15a Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294264] [8128c61d] ? tcp_keepalive_timer+0x0/0x1e6 Apr 17 20:08:13 marbach kernel: [76743.294269] [8128c61d
Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk writes: This looks like it might be http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/problem-brcm80211-hangs-2-6-36-0-34-rc6-git3-fc15-x86-64-help-200600731.html. Try a newer kernel, if you can (though I don't see evidence in that thread that the change was incorporated into the mainstream kernel) Thanks! That begins to give a potential rational explanation for this problem. Given that this happens relatively infrequently and that Wheezy will be released in about a month or less (or so I read), I may wait for that. If I get a minute and convince myself that I can update the kernel with little risk of borking anything, I may try. Bill -- Bill Harris Facilitated Systems http://makingsense.facilitatedsystems.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k3nywjxl@facilitatedsystems.com
Re: Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily
Soare, Thanks for your quick response. The laptop is currently crashed, and so I'll check logs and more later. I discovered uprecords a while back, and I've had uptimes as long as 136 days. I think the current mode of uptime is around 10-20 days, but it may be longer. I do sense that it's shorter than it was before I started using uprecords, but I'm not sure, and that could be due to either hardware or a bad update. Your idea about running W7 for a while is intriguing if a bit painful (all my stuff is on the Linux side). Still, I don't think that's what I need right now. One could view this as two problems: random freezes followed by an inability to reboot. While I don't use W7 often, I only recall one time W7 failed to boot, and it recovered nicely. Right now, I haven't been able to boot Debian since last night, although I've booted W7 multiple times. It sounds as if some state information is being written to disk on the Debian side that makes it hang up when starting ACPI (usually) or gdm3 (occasionally) or while checking the battery (occasionally). Karl mentioned possible overheating. I let it sit overnight unplugged and tried again this morning, but it still failed. There is also no sign of overheating (fan noise, hot air, heavy-duty number crunching) when it crashes, at least as far as I can recall. When I get a moment, I'll boot into recovery mode (that always works) and then run startx (which also works). I'll try to find any useful logfile info so I can post it here. Oh, and Karl asked if I had any strange video drivers. My laptop has a dual Intel/ATI graphics system, but I think the ATI side and the switching isn't supported out of the box, so I've just left the standard Intel drivers in place. IIRC, when it freezes, it's solidly dead. The screen is still as it was, but nothing has any effect: mouse, Alt-tab, attempts to get to virtual consoles. I honestly don't recall if I have blinking cursors :-%, but I certainly don't recall seeing any after a freeze. Bill -- Bill Harris
Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily
I'm running an up-to-date Debian Squeeze 64-bit on a laptop. It's usually been stable, as I might expect from Debian Stable. From time to time, though, it freezes at seemingly random times. I notice it mostly when I'm typing and the keyboard stops responding, but I'm not sure it always freezes while typing. I can't do anything at that point, not even select a virtual console. I can't find an Alt-SysReq key on the laptop keyboard to kill it semi-gracefully, so I kill it with the power button. When I reboot, it usually boots partway and then freezes again. It's almost always just after it's said it's starting gdm3, checking battery status, or starting ACPI. Getting past that point is challenging. I've tried disconnecting the power and taking out the battery, but that rarely helps. What usually helps is to boot into Windows (W7, if it matters) and then shut down and boot into Debian. Sometimes it seems to help to pull the battery for a bit, too. Sometimes neither seem to help, and so I keep trying combinations until it reboots. Does that sound at all familiar? If so, is there a solution (either to keep it from freezing or to recover more rapidly after freezing)? What data (log file, I presume) do you need to help me find and fix the prroblem? Thanks, Bill
Re: Squeeze freeze
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: It is quite safe. You can always try it now and if it doesn't have any success for you then you can remove it without lingering issues of having had it installed. Example: Thanks, Bob, for the detailed instructions. Bill -- Bill Harris Facilitated Systems http://makingsense.facilitatedsystems.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k3simzr7@facilitatedsystems.com
Re: Squeeze freeze
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: Have you tried unplugging and pulling out the battery after the (forced) shutdown? Andrei, Yep. I left it out for 30-60 seconds, which has worked on other laptops in the past, and it wasn't successful. Sorry, no idea about the freezes except maybe to try a newer kernel (backports has 3.2). Thanks. I see that now. I'll think about it (and research what I'd have to do in addition to installing it). I've been staying mostly with Stable to reduce risk. Bill -- Bill Harris Facilitated Systems http://makingsense.facilitatedsystems.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87lid6rk5a@facilitatedsystems.com
Squeeze freeze
After 136 days up, I had a hard freeze Wednesday evening, December 5--the system was unresponsive to the mouse, trackpad, keyboard, attempts to get to a virtual console, and REISUB. I had to hold the power button down to shut it off. Then it would lock up partway through subsequent boot processes, somewhere after saying it was loading gdm3, ACPI, checking battery status, or something around there--never as far as the login screen. I'm running , | Linux marbach 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 10:07:46 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ` on an HP dv7 laptop, and it's up-to-date, AFAICT. It has a dual ATI / Intel graphics system, and I've only run Debian on the Intel graphics. I'm looking for help finding and fixing the problem. What information do you need to offer advice? I fired up a LiveCD of Suse, and it worked. I tested a W7 installation, and it worked. Then I rebooted into Debian, and it worked. I ran it for several hours. During that time, I ran SMART tests, and the disk seemed to be okay. Early Friday morning, it wouldn't come out of suspend mode--it was again locked up (I think it brought up X, but, to be honest, I didn't write it down, and I can't recall with certainty. Later, I started memtest, and it ran successfully (I only gave it time to run about 1 1/2 times through it's tests). Then I booted into safe mode on Debian and looked at some of the log files. I booted W7 again, and then I rebooted successfully into Debian. It did come out of suspend mode this morning just fine. PROVISIONAL CONCLUSIONS: I don't /think/ it's hardware. It /might/ be related to a previously-known kernel bug, but I'm not sure (see below). When it freezes, I haven't found a way to power off except with the power switch, and I haven't found a way to reboot except by booting into W7 or Suse first and then coming back to Squeeze. Any ideas how to troubleshoot or fix this? Thanks for any help. The remainder of this message lists logfile snippets and a few comments about them, in case anyone wants those details: - auth.log - messages (partial) from the first freeze and a pointer to bugzilla - dpkg.log (two snippets) - messages upon a suspend recovery failure Bill --- Possibly interesting logfile snippets: ,[ auth.log--the entire contents from the time it wouldn't unsuspend ] | Dec 7 05:13:48 marbach gnome-keyring-daemon[2662]: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep passwords and or keys from being written to the disk ` ,[ messages from around the first freeze; see bug number below ] | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750661] [ cut here ] | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750690] WARNING: at /build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.32-46-amd64-_ApuPc/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_amd64_none/net/mac80211/tx.c:1330 ieee80211_tx+0x1ad/0x1d3 [mac80211]() | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750694] Hardware name: HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750696] tx refused but queue active | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750698] Modules linked in: xt_limit xt_tcpudp ipt_LOG ipt_MASQUERADE xt_DSCP ipt_REJECT nf_conntrack_irc nf_conntrack_ftp xt_state aes_x86_64 aes_generic parport_pc ppdev lp parport sco bridge stp bnep acpi_cpufreq cpufreq_userspace rfcomm l2cap cpufreq_stats cpufreq_conservative bluetooth cpufreq_powersave nfsd lockd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss sunrpc exportfs binfmt_misc uinput fuse iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack nf_defrag_ipv4 iptable_mangle iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables ext4 jbd2 crc16 loop snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_idt arc4 snd_hda_intel ecb snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm snd_seq joydev brcm80211(C) hp_accel snd_timer snd_seq_device snd lis3lv02d uvcvideo mac80211 radeon soundcore videodev ttm i915 cfg80211 drm_kms_helper video input_polldev v4l1_compat i2c_i801 led_class snd_page_alloc psmouse output rfkill v4l2_compat_ioctl32 drm processor button battery ac wmi serio_raw pcspkr evdev i2c_algo_bit i2c_core ext3 jbd mbcache sg sr_mod sd_mod crc | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: _t10dif cdrom ahci ehci_hcd libata thermal r8169 mii scsi_mod thermal_sys usbcore nls_base [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750791] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: G C 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750795] Call Trace: | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750797] IRQ [a030871d] ? ieee80211_tx+0x1ad/0x1d3 [mac80211] | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750823] [a030871d] ? ieee80211_tx+0x1ad/0x1d3 [mac80211] | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750830] [8104df38] ? warn_slowpath_common+0x77/0xa3 | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750835] [8104dfc0] ? warn_slowpath_fmt+0x51/0x59 | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel: [ 668.750845] [a02f8b34] ? sta_info_get+0x2e/0x43 [mac80211] | Dec 5 21:50:39 marbach kernel
Getting rid of Media Cache directory
Does anyone know who keeps creating ~/Media Cache and how I can get them to stop? -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/14481.1354644...@olgas.newt.com
RE: 6.0.5 ia64 network card question
All, Can anyone assist me with getting drivers and installing a Dynex DX-PCIGB network card? I also have a USB Netgear Wireless n300 adapter as an alternative but I cannot get it to install either. Thanks and any info I did not provide just let me know and I will get it to you. Bill
Re: Evolution and POP3 problem: want to delete from server when moved from Inbox
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:48:01 -0700, Bill Harris wrote: 1. I set up Evolution and imported my Icedove folders, and then I downloaded email for the first time in Evolution. That gave me duplicates of everything. Is there a command or plugin to eliminate duplicates, as there was on Thunderbird/Icedove, or do I have to do that manually? Mmm, you have something about that explained here: http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_does_Evolution_download_duplicate_emails.3F_How_can_I_get_rid_of_them.3F_Why_does_Evolution_reload_old_mails_from_server_when_.22Leave_a_message_on_the_pop_server.22_is_activated.3F http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/mail-duplicates.html.en Thanks. That led me to http://gnome-evolution-general.1774414.n4.nabble.com/remove-duplicates-td1781760.html, which does seem to have interesting links. I'll have to check them out. 2. My second issue is much more important to me. I leave emails on the server for various reasons. When I do move some messages from the inbox to other folders or I delete messages from the inbox, I want Evolution to remove them from the server, but I can't figure out how to do that (it seemed easy on Thunderbird / Icedove). How does one do this? Any tips? I've searched and found a few tantalizing hints that there might be a solution, but I haven't found the solutions. (...) Leaving a copy in the server is an option that always gives headaches. Have you considered moving to IMAP, instead? It worked well in T'bird until T'bird (Icedove) choked. :-% AFAICT, these servers do not support IMAP. Ouch... Jump to another provider, then? Someday. :-) Thanks, Camaleón. Bill -- Bill Harris Facilitated Systems http://makingsense.facilitatedsystems.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877gx5dbk2@facilitatedsystems.com
Evolution and POP3 problem: want to delete from server when moved from Inbox
This is essentially a duplicate of a posting to the Evolution mailiing list an hour or two ago. After posting there, I saw that they considered the Squeeze version of Evolution obsolete and recommended asking on one's distro mailing list. I'm a new Evolution user (version 2.30.3) on Debian Squeeze, having moved from Icedove because it had problems downloading large POP3 messages a few times, and Evolution handled them fine. So far, Evolution is working okay, except I have two problems: 1. I set up Evolution and imported my Icedove folders, and then I downloaded email for the first time in Evolution. That gave me duplicates of everything. Is there a command or plugin to eliminate duplicates, as there was on Thunderbird/Icedove, or do I have to do that manually? 2. My second issue is much more important to me. I leave emails on the server for various reasons. When I do move some messages from the inbox to other folders or I delete messages from the inbox, I want Evolution to remove them from the server, but I can't figure out how to do that (it seemed easy on Thunderbird / Icedove). How does one do this? Any tips? I've searched and found a few tantalizing hints that there might be a solution, but I haven't found the solutions. I can do the first (removing duplicates) manually, although I'd rather not (I have a number of emails to sort through, in that case). I'm open to a number of options on the second: - If Evolution has the capability built in and I haven't found it, advice on how to do it would be great. - If a newer version of Evolution has it and it's buildable on Squeeze, let me know. I thought I saw that described somewhere, but I can't find instructions in the current documentation describing how to set it up. - If people use dovecot or something similar to get email instead of Evolution's built-in POP3 software, and if dovecot or similar can manage the communications required to do this, can you point me to a howto or other documentation? I've not used dovecot If none of those work, how do you manage this? Do you delete or move emails in Evolution and then also log into webmail and delete the same messages? That sounds tedious, and I'd rather not do that. I've asked a few colleagues, and a common response is to use IMAP. AFAICT, these servers do not support IMAP. Besides, at some time, I'd like to have the emails on my own disk, and my past experience suggests that's not as easy with IMAP as it is with other approaches. Thanks, Bill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fwbxht7y@facilitatedsystems.com
Re: how to retrieve info from a bad disk?
Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com writes: On 21/04/12 11:22 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote: Is there another rescue software ?? Firstly, copy the entire disk to another one of the same or larger size by booting from a live distro such as sysrecuecd and using dd (e.g. dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb). Check out ddrescue as a replacement for dd, too. I've had luck with it when some files were partially corrupted, but it's been years since I used it. Bill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87397wiz9v@facilitatedsystems.com
Re: VNC into a Debian Machine
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:20:02 +0100, James Allsopp scribbled: Hello, I really want to be able to use VNC to be able to view the full Gnome desktop on my laptop. I've been able to view a grey screen and a terminal, using vnc4server and tigervnc or vinagre, but what I'd like to be able to do is just view a whole screen as if I was actually there. I'd like avoid xdmcp if possible, as it would be great to use it from anywhere, rather than just locally, Any suggestions, pointers to good tutorials welcome! Thanks James RTFM (at www.realvnc.com) ... x-window-manager in the xstartup file in your .vnc directory links to metacity. Replace it with gnome-session. Regards -- @ Bill Dennen ieee1...@hotmail.com Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgb7vr$6u1$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: mcedit copy to cooledit.clip
In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote: Hi, When mc runs in forked shell, like script, the ctrl-ins keys in mcedit to copy marked text to cooledit.clip doesn't work. Anybody knows why not? Hugo Have you tried the Learn Keys function in mc? (I prefer using nano instead of the mc editor, but it's worth a try). -- Never believe the attribution of a quotation you find on the Internet. (George Bernard Shaw) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/E1Rhmu8-0005z4-Nz@lat.local
Re: No cdrom device
In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote: lshw output in my case has no *cdrom entry at all. I rebooted, opened the tray manually, inserted a Knoppix disk and set the BIOS to boot off the cdrom drive. No luck - booted from the hard drive. That sounds like a hardware problem with the cdrom drive. Also,modprobe sr_modgave me sg0 in /dev (?). mount /dev/sg0 /mnt/cdrom gave mount: /dev/sg0 is not a block device This is getting wierder and wierder. -- Never believe the attribution of a quotation you find on the Internet. (George Bernard Shaw) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/E1Rg7jv-0005eG-Cy@lat.local
Re: NOT solved - ownership of external usb h/d
In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote: /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0001a703 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 60801 488384001 83 Linux Sharon. What is the output of mount? It's possible that even though the partition ID byte says Linux, it may be formatted as FAT or NTFS. -- Never believe the attribution of a quotation you find on the Internet. (George Bernard Shaw) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/E1Rg7gQ-0005GZ-J2@lat.local
Re: which is the best command to use
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:20:02 +0100, lina scribbled: On Tuesday 27,December,2011 08:57 PM, lina wrote: Hi, I have two questions, wish to get advice, Question 1: For a series of files: cat a_*.o* | grep WARNING some file like a_1.o12 has WARNING, but others does not have WARNING How can I let grep returns the filename? I wrote a very-low-level and not-work-as-expected one, #!/bin/sh for filename in *.o* do #echo $filename a= cat $filename | grep WARNING if [ a ] then echo $filename fi done Please give me some advice, Best regards, Question 2: ls . | xargs -i -t cp ./{} {}.bak How does xargs work, I checked google, : -i : replace the string -t print but still lack well understanding, how those xargs organise things, and $ ls . a.txt b.txt above will give a.txt.bak b.txt.bak ls | xargs -i cp ./{} {basename {}.bak} definitely not work, Sorry I send it to debian list, I asked on another bash list, for two days the second question, no one replied. I have much more faith in this list. WIth all the best regards, From man grep ... -l, --files-with-matches Suppress normal output; instead print the name of each input file from which output would normally have been printed. The scanning will stop on the first match. (-l is specified by POSIX.) so $ grep -l *.o* or $ grep --file-with-matches *.o* should do what you want. -- @ Bill Dennen ieee1...@hotmail.com Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jdciih$mq1$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: which is the best command to use
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:20:02 +0100, lina scribbled: On Tuesday 27,December,2011 08:57 PM, lina wrote: Hi, I have two questions, wish to get advice, Question 1: For a series of files: cat a_*.o* | grep WARNING some file like a_1.o12 has WARNING, but others does not have WARNING How can I let grep returns the filename? I wrote a very-low-level and not-work-as-expected one, #!/bin/sh for filename in *.o* do #echo $filename a= cat $filename | grep WARNING if [ a ] then echo $filename fi done Please give me some advice, Best regards, Question 2: ls . | xargs -i -t cp ./{} {}.bak How does xargs work, I checked google, : -i : replace the string -t print but still lack well understanding, how those xargs organise things, and $ ls . a.txt b.txt above will give a.txt.bak b.txt.bak ls | xargs -i cp ./{} {basename {}.bak} definitely not work, Sorry I send it to debian list, I asked on another bash list, for two days the second question, no one replied. I have much more faith in this list. WIth all the best regards, whoops, my bad (so focused on the -l) its $ grep -l WARNING *.o* :( -- @ Bill Dennen ieee1...@hotmail.com Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jdcimp$mq1$2...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Launch default application from file in command line.
In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote: Hello there, Is it possible to launch a default application with a file from the command line, e.g. something like: ./myfile.pdf which would retrieve the default PDF viewer and launch it on myfile? For the moment, I have a bash script called with launch argument, which analyzes the extension of argument and calls the program; e.g. launch myfile.pdf spots pdf and calls evince myfile.pdf. The problem is that it won't follow automatically if I decide to change my default PDF viewer or in case I create a new file/program association (unless I make the script read some configuration file somewhere, I suppose). Any idea? Yet another option is /usr/bin/see, part of the mime-support package. You can also use mc, which has its own config file. -- We've had 30 years of center-right to extreme-right governance and the country has gotten steadily worse. The triumph of politics is that at least half the country blames the Democrats for this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/E1RcoQ8-0001al-Mz@lat.local
Re: Running apt*, help needed
In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote: Hi all, Is there any way to run apt or dpkg, etc. so I can install programs/pkgs on a different system than I am running on? I can't run anything on the other system right now, but I can mount the disks on a machine that is running OK. Many TIA! Dennis This sounds like a job for apt-zip. -- We've had 30 years of center-right to extreme-right governance and the country has gotten steadily worse. The triumph of politics is that at least half the country blames the Democrats for this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/E1RcoUf-000254-AX@lat.local
Re: Corrupted security update package files
Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de writes: * Bill Wohler: When updating lenny this morning (yes, upgrading is on my todo list), I got the following error: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache The security archive underwent maintenance this weekend. This issue has been addressed. Confirmed, thanks! -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mxb8vxhw@olgas.newt.com
Corrupted security update package files
When updating lenny this morning (yes, upgrading is on my todo list), I got the following error: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache Looking on the mailing list, it appears to be a problem with squeeze as well. I tried clearing the files in /var/lib/apt/lists. I still got a zero-sized Packages file: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root92374 Dec 3 09:43 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_Release -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 836 Dec 3 09:43 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_Release.gpg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_contrib_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_contrib_source_Sources -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1870959 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 480423 Dec 3 09:36 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_source_Sources -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_non-free_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_non-free_source_Sources Is there an ETA on when these files will be fixed? -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/22963.1322951...@olgas.newt.com
Re: Corrupted security update package files
Bill Wohler woh...@olgas.newt.com wrote: I still got a zero-sized Packages file: Those are for contrib and non-free, which might be expected. The error was in the main distribution, which does have mostly valid looking content, but which is still generating the aforementioned error. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1870959 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/23544.1322953...@olgas.newt.com
GNOME 3 mini HOWTOs
Hey folks, It sounds like GNOME 3 is getting into testing. Like many of you, I wasn't happy about it when it got into Fedora at work. However, I gave it a try and now MUCH prefer it. I wrote up a couple of blogs about my experience. This one describes how to work with the new paradigm. http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#love-gnome-3 If, after giving it a try, you're still not convinced, read this blog which describes how to bring back the old UI. http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#hate-gnome-3 These blogs were written for Fedora, so the Debian details may be a bit different. I've been running stable for some time and am looking forward to seeing GNOME 3 in stable. Here are a couple of additional related blogs: http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#gnome-3-desktop-metaphor http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#gnome-3-cpu-temperature-applet Hope these help! -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r512twgt@olgas.newt.com
Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?
Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk writes: Now I've been running it for about a week I am really starting to like it EXCEPT FOR ONE THING I really wish the hot spot for shrinking the desktop could be moved to the bottom left. I keep accidentally using it when moving to the browser back button. (DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MOVE IT) Agreed. That's a really good idea worth getting to the developers. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mxbqtw8l@olgas.newt.com
Re: Why is exim installed by default?
Andrew Wood a@me.com writes: I see. thanks for the replies. if I was to install postfix in the future as a 'proper' mail server would it conflict? Yes. exim4 will be removed if you install postfix. At one point, years ago, exim either caused me a problem or lacked a feature I needed and so I tried postfix. I've been running postfix ever since on my client machines (laptops and workstations) and servers alike. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871uu6pcxl@olgas.newt.com
Whitespace problem with bash script for Icedove
Hi folks, I'm piecing together a small script to remove duplicate messages from various directories in Icedove. By default the files are stored in a directory called 'Local Folders' - with the space - and this seems to be creating a problem for bash. I can both cd to Local Folders and cd to Local\ Folders from the command line but within the script it's a different story. Bash refuses to recognize Local Folders as a directory and breaks at the whitespace. Here's the script and the error output. Any help appreciated. bill #! /bin/bash # A script to remove duplicate messages FILES=/home/bill/.icedove/qjimvr85.default/Mail/Local\ Folders/2-Personal.sbd/* # or /home/bill/.icedove/qjimvr85.default/Mail/Local Folders/2-Personal.sbd/* for i in $FILES do mv $i $i.saved formail -D 65536 .msgid.cache -s $i.saved $i done mv: cannot stat `/home/bill/.icedove/qjimvr85.default/Mail/Local': No such file or directory ./mailscript: line 10: /home/bill/.icedove/qjimvr85.default/Mail/Local.saved: No such file or directory mv: cannot stat `Folders/2-Personal.sbd/*': No such file or directory ./mailscript: line 10: Folders/2-Personal.sbd/*.saved: No such file or directory -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2db0cf.8000...@uniserve.com
Lenovo T410 modem difficulties
Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone had succeeded in getting the POTS built-in modem on a T410 to work with squeeze. I only need the modem for a backup on those rare occasions when POTS is all there is, but I would like to have it configured. After a night on Google, I discover that the Linuxant module is essentially marketing bait for a commercial upgrade. So no way to that. I'm not a purist exactly, but I only have 5 non-free packages on the system. One more won't matter but I intend to stick with free software as far as possible. ScanModem reveals three potential chipsets but I believe I have a Conexant HD Audio Modem. I've installed the sl-modem-daemon without success. Any pointers? b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1308803264.2438.761.ca...@zefram.soho.lan
Re: Update Manage borked
On Fri, 2011-17-06 at 17:53 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: No worries, unlikely anything broken Boot into recovery mode. At the prompt type your root password and hit Enter (gently). make sure you have space on / (or /var if it's separate) # df -h #apt-get -d update if no errors then:- # apt-get upgrade or for gnome # /etc/init.d/gdm start;exit Cheers Worked fine. Thanks Scott. b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1308302215.2438.469.ca...@zefram.soho.lan
Update Manage borked
Hi folks, I had to shutdown my laptop before update manager had finished completing it's latest updates. Now it hangs when restarting, one part probably thinks it's in the process of doing something, and another part is waiting for it to complete. Anyway all I get is a blank window, and no update. I've removed update manager from the top panel and when I reboot it re-installs itself the same as before. Any suggestions? b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1308271362.2438.426.ca...@zefram.soho.lan
Re: ssh woes
On Sun, 2011-12-06 at 01:09 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: Yes. Try #ssh -o PreferredAuthentications=password and paste the output PreferredAuthentications doesn't seem to be a correct option. Nor does it show up in /etc/ssh/ssh_config or /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Perhaps this is because I used the empty string when creating keys? b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307858648.2438.43.ca...@zefram.soho.lan
Re: ssh woes
On Sun, 2011-12-06 at 03:10 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: It not being in your /etc/ssh/ssh_config means you're not overriding the default, that's all. Ok. Thanks. I was curious. b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307862890.2438.47.ca...@zefram.soho.lan
ssh woes
Hi folks, I've Googled myself blind over this one, but all I can find are hundreds of people with the same problem and no real solutions. I suspect the answer is staring me in the face but I just don't see it. While I can ssh from my desktop to my laptop, I cannot ssh from my laptop to my desktop. However, I can ping the desktop from the laptop no problem. Likewise I can scp files to/from the laptop as long as I am working on the desktop. When I try and ssh from the laptop to the desktop I get the error message: Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer Here's some additional output: me@laptop:~$ ssh -vvv desktop OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to desktop [192.168.1.10] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa. debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN' debug3: key_read: missing keytype debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-END' debug3: key_read: missing keytype debug1: identity file /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 debug1: Checking blacklist file /usr/share/ssh/blacklist.RSA-2048 debug1: Checking blacklist file /etc/ssh/blacklist.RSA-2048 debug1: identity file /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/me/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/me/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9 debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9 pat OpenSSH_4* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6 debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer And from the desktop side in /var/log/auth.log Jun 11 20:30:26 desktop sshd[2575]: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key Jun 11 20:30:26 desktop sshd[2575]: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Any suggestions here? b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307854519.2438.31.ca...@zefram.soho.lan
Re: ssh woes [solved] [Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer]
On Sat, 2011-11-06 at 21:55 -0700, Bill wrote: Hi folks, I've Googled myself blind over this one, but all I can find are hundreds of people with the same problem and no real solutions. I suspect the answer is staring me in the face but I just don't see it. While I can ssh from my desktop to my laptop, I cannot ssh from my laptop to my desktop. However, I can ping the desktop from the laptop no problem. Likewise I can scp files to/from the laptop as long as I am working on the desktop. When I try and ssh from the laptop to the desktop I get the error message: Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer Here's some additional output: me@laptop:~$ ssh -vvv desktop OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to desktop [192.168.1.10] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa. debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN' debug3: key_read: missing keytype debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-END' debug3: key_read: missing keytype debug1: identity file /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 debug1: Checking blacklist file /usr/share/ssh/blacklist.RSA-2048 debug1: Checking blacklist file /etc/ssh/blacklist.RSA-2048 debug1: identity file /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/me/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/me/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9 debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9 pat OpenSSH_4* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6 debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer And from the desktop side in /var/log/auth.log Jun 11 20:30:26 desktop sshd[2575]: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key Jun 11 20:30:26 desktop sshd[2575]: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Any suggestions here? Well I was right. I was looking in the wrong place. In writing the original email message I provided information about error messages on both the desktop and the laptop. On a hunch, I compared the /etc/ssh/ directories on both. The laptop had keys in it whereas the desktop did not for some reason. I'd spent most of my time looking on the laptop not the desktop and in ~/.ssh not in /etc/ssh. And so: root@desktop:/etc/ssh# ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key generated the necessary keys and I was able to ssh from the laptop. Simple really. Just looking in the wrong place. As usual. But alls well that ends well. Hope this helps someone else. b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307855568.2438.37.ca...@zefram.soho.lan
Wicd Wireless Woes
Hi folks, I'm having problems connecting to my wireless access point using wicd. Wicd seems to be running ok. I can connect and disconnect from my wired network at will. Wicd also detects a variety of wireless networks in my neighborhood, including my own, but won't connect. It claims there's a bad password, but I've triple checked that. It's correct. I'm including the relevant information from the wicd log below. I hope someone can point me in the right direction. Wicd is complaining about a variety of things, any of which could be the real cause of the problem. tia, b. Excerpt from wicd.log 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: Connecting to wireless network MyCorrectESSID 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: /sbin/dhcpcd -k wlan0 err, wlan0: dhcpcd not running 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: /sbin/ip route flush dev wlan0 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: ifconfig wlan0 down 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: ifconfig wlan0 up 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: wpa_cli -i wlan0 terminate Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: /sbin/dhcpcd -k eth0 err, eth0: dhcpcd not running 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: /sbin/ip route flush dev eth0 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: ifconfig eth0 down 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: ifconfig eth0 up 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: Putting interface down 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: ifconfig wlan0 down 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: Releasing DHCP leases... 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: /sbin/dhcpcd -k wlan0 err, wlan0: dhcpcd not running 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: Setting false IP... 2011/05/23 18:26:54 :: ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0 2011/05/23 18:26:55 :: Stopping wpa_supplicant 2011/05/23 18:26:55 :: wpa_cli -i wlan0 terminate Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory 2011/05/23 18:26:55 :: Flushing the routing table... 2011/05/23 18:26:55 :: /sbin/ip route flush dev wlan0 2011/05/23 18:26:55 :: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed 2011/05/23 18:26:55 :: Putting interface up... 2011/05/23 18:26:55 :: ifconfig wlan0 up 2011/05/23 18:26:56 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: enctype is wpa 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: Generating psk... 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: ['/usr/bin/wpa_passphrase', 'MyCorrectESSID', 'MyCorrectPassword'] 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: Attempting to authenticate... 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: ['wpa_supplicant', '-B', '-i', 'wlan0', '-c', '/var/lib/wicd/configurations/001346f28a48', '-D', 'wext'] 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: ['iwconfig', 'wlan0', 'essid', '--', 'MyCorrectESSID'] 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: iwconfig wlan0 channel 7 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:13:46:F2:8A:48 2011/05/23 18:26:57 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:26:58 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:26:58 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:26:59 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:00 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:00 :: wpa_supplicant rescan forced... 2011/05/23 18:27:00 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:01 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:02 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:02 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:03 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATED 2011/05/23 18:27:04 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:04 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:05 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS SCANNING 2011/05/23 18:27:06 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATED 2011/05/23 18:27:06 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:07 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATING 2011/05/23 18:27:08 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATING 2011/05/23 18:27:09 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:09 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:10 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:11 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:11 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:12 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:13 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATED 2011/05/23 18:27:13 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:14 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:15 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:16 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:16 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:17 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:18 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:18 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:19 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATED 2011/05/23 18:27:20 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:20 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:21 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:22 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATED 2011/05/23 18:27:23 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:23 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:24 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:25 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2011/05/23 18:27:25 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:26 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATING 2011/05/23 18:27:27 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATING 2011/05/23 18:27:27 :: iwconfig wlan0 2011/05/23 18:27:28 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS ASSOCIATING 2011/05/23
xorg freezes/sticks under kernel 2.6.38
Since upgrading to kernel 2.6.38, I've been experiencing freezes in X. After startup, things are normal for a matter of minutes; then most keypresses and mouseclicks have no effect until focus is moved to another window, at which time the screen catches up. Once it starts it continues until X is re-started. Starting X with fvwm's ClickToFocus (rather than SloppyFocus or FocusFollowsMouse) seems to work longer but eventually fails. The problem does not occur when running a 2.6.37 kernel. I'm running sid on an Asus S62E laptop with the following packages: xorg 1:7.6+6 xserver-xorg 1:7.6+6 xserver-xorg-core 2:1.10.1-2 xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.6.0-2+b1 xserver-xorg-input-kbd1:1.6.0-1+b1 xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.7.0-2+b1 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.4.0-1+b1 xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.15.0-2 Same results with wheezy and: xorg 1:7.5+8 xserver-xorg 1:7.5+8 xserver-xorg-core 2:1.7.7-13 xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.3.2-6 xserver-xorg-input-kbd1:1.4.0-2 xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.5.0-2 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.2.2-2 xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.13.0-6 Starting X and then running fvwm and applications on a remote (squeeze) machine has the same problem, so it appears to be an issue with the X server and the 2.6.38 kernel. Anyone else experiencing this? Suggestions? Thanks.. Bill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1qjtjb-0002pg-fk...@k2di.net
Annoying iwlagn log spam
Sometimes my syslog starts filling up with the following message: Apr 6 08:02:12 olgas kernel: [44546.661749] iwlagn :03:00.0: GF was set with SGI:SISO It can occur hundreds of times a *second*. Does anyone know what is wrong and what can be done to make it stop? I find that I can make it stop temporarily by disconnecting my wireless connection and connecting again. But it always comes back after a few hours. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/31463.1302106...@olgas.newt.com
Re: System Hangs on Activating Swap
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:40:01 +0100, Tim Nelson scribbled: Greetings fellow Debian'ers- I've got a system (Lenny, kernel 2.6.26-2-486)that occasionally fails to boot fully. The last item noted on the console is 'Activating Swap', then nothing. I've enabled bootlogd (/etc/default/bootlogd) and verbose mode (/etc/default/rcS) but nothing of importance is shown. I've even reinstalled Debian from scratch and the issue persists. I've tried different hard drives, no change. Now, here comes the odd part. If I remove the swap entry from fstab, the system will still hang at times! If there is no swap being made available to the system, how can it still hang? Do the init scripts look for and use any partition with a swap partition type? Also, is it possible the problem is soemthing else but it simply manifests itself as a hang at the 'activating swap' part of the boot process? I've extracted the Debian initrd and looked through the scripts there and in /etc/rcS* on the root partition. Nothing is jumping out at me for a possible cause. How should I proceed to troubleshoot? Any ideas? Thank you! --Tim I'd first verify that you are indeed running through the scripts of /etc/ rcS.d and not rc3.d or the like. Then, since you're seeing the hang whether or not there is a swap, it's likely what FOLLOWS checkroot.sh or mountall.sh. Add console messages to the scripts indicating you're exiting one and starting the next. Once you find in which script your hang is located, comment the ^%^% out of it to locate the command. Then follow your nose ;) Regards -- @ Bill Dennen ieee1...@hotmail.com Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/iihm6c$h8$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: allow/deny user power of the os
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:30:01 +0100, Pol Hallen scribbled: hi folks :) How is the best way to deny and allow by time and date of user/s poweroff/reboot system? This client runs from 08am to 8pm. I have to deny all users reboot or poweroff within time, but user/s can reboot or poweroff this system from 8.01pm to 7.59am. Thanks! Pol Aeons ago I created a special run level (4 was unused at that time) that sorta looked like single user mode but wasn't. At a set time the run level would change effectively knocking everybody off and, with no gettys running, not allowing them back on until what I wanted to get done was done. Regards -- @ Bill Dennen ieee1...@hotmail.com Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/iihmgb$h8$2...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: how to get pid when I start the process
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:30:02 +0100, Zhang Weiwu scribbled: Hello. I usually start amuled and kill it after a few hours, I do such thing once a day. Usually I do it like this: In one console: $ amuled In another: zhangwe...@mesopotamia:~$ ps ax | grep mule 13595 zhangwei 14080 R N amuled 13598 zhangwei 14080 S N amuled 13600 zhangwei 14080 S N amuled 13603 zhangwei 14080 S N amuled 13612 zhangwei 1352 Sgrep mule zhangwe...@mesopotamia:~$ kill 13595 Note that I should always kill the least-numbered process, I tried otherwise and always end up in trouble. Question is, how do I script-lize this? The only difficulty is to get the pid in script. I could use an one-liner awk script to analyses the output of ps, but that sounds overkill. Is there a better way? Best. Thanks in advance! Is not the PID returned in $$ ?? -- @ Bill Dennen ieee1...@hotmail.com Of all the things I miss, I miss my mind the most ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ievtcv$lt...@speranza.aioe.org
[SOLVED]RE: Number pad doesn't work gnome(squeeze) HPE-337c-b keyboard 5335u
@ Camaleón I must have missed that post but, this solved it. Thanks to all who pitched in.Now, I will go hide my red faced embarrassment and forget it and drive on. System - Preferences - Keyboard - Mouse Keys -- Uncheck thebox that says Allow to control the pointer using the keyboard.If that isn't it, sorry. I turned this on with a weird series ofkeyboard presses a couple times. To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Number pad doesn't work gnome(squeeze) HPE-337c-b keyboard 5335u Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:45:11 + On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:00:05 +, Curt wrote: On 2010-10-26, Camaleón wrote: System - Preferences - Keyboard - Mouse Keys -- Uncheck the box that says Allow to control the pointer using the keyboard. If that isn't it, sorry. I turned this on with a weird series of keyboard presses a couple times. Yes! That fixed it. Thank you! I already suggested that to Bill on this thread but it seems to cause no effect (or at least no response from him) :-? You can have the credit. Yeeepy! :-) Of course, I said the above months ago, in my only other post to this mailing list, but unfortunately at the time it was the right answer to the wrong question. ;-) I think to prevent this from happening inadvertently you must turn off Allow to turn accessibility features on and off from the keyboard in System - Preferences - Keyboard - Accessibility. Now seriously, I thought both of you were experiencing the same behavior with no obvious bypass so it could be indeed a bug that could be reported. But if they are different problems, Bill can still suffer from a peculiar setup on his computer or just that something was messed up on his configuration. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.26.13.45...@gmail.com
RE: Number pad doesn't work gnome(squeeze) HPE-337c-b keyboard 5335u
Shift-F8 didn't work.The num lock toggles but the keys don't respond.Thinking more of a keycode issue. To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Number pad doesn't work gnome(squeeze) HPE-337c-b keyboard 5335u Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:12:24 + On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:14:30 -0500, Bill Nickels wrote: (snip) xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection should i look elsewhere for the settings or select a different model? Not sure if this will help, but you can click Shift+F8 to enable/ disable numlock standard behaviour. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.24.17.12...@gmail.com
RE: Upgrade to Squeeze failed
Recommend burning a super grub iso http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/SGD_Howto_make Boot from it to gain access to file systems. Remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try to boot the system. I am new to linux, just relating what work for me before so, this info is coming with a few grains of salt.. Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:35:35 +0300 From: andreimpope...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Squeeze failed On Du, 24 oct 10, 23:52:40, lrhorer wrote: machine. Grub comes up, and if I let it boot to Windows, it works, but if I select Linux (normal or recovery), very shortly after starting to boot the video output from the machine just dies. I don't mean it goes blank, I mean the video goes away altogether, as if the machine is shut down. The monitor reports a loss of video signal, yet the PC is still running and continues to access the hard drive. It might be related to modesetting, which can be disabled by kernel parameters. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
RE: Number pad doesn't work gnome(squeeze) HPE-337c-b keyboard 5335u
Thanks for the quick reply, Went to terminal, opened sensible-editor and same behavior. To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Number pad doesn't work gnome(squeeze) HPE-337c-b keyboard 5335u Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:32:23 + On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:25:28 -0500, Bill Nickels wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:14:30 -0500, Bill Nickels wrote: should i look elsewhere for the settings or select a different model? Not sure if this will help, but you can click Shift+F8 to enable/ disable numlock standard behaviour. Shift-F8 didn't work.The num lock toggles but the keys don't respond.Thinking more of a keycode issue. Shift-F8 enable/disable Num. Lock/arrow movement (indeed, it toogles between both them). Jump to a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and test the num lock keys from there. Does it work? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.25.15.32...@gmail.com
RE: Number pad doesn't work gnome(squeeze) HPE-337c-b keyboard 5335u
Yes it was a terminal ctrl-alt f1 login invoke sensible-editor and test.(system/preferences/keyboard/keyboard layout)? shows a generic 105-key(intl) PC.The keyboard has sound control keys at upper right but they work. All else seems standard/generic.The same symptom was there before I entered anything about the keyboard into xorg.conf. To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Number pad doesn't work gnome(squeeze) HPE-337c-b keyboard 5335u Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:59:56 + On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:42:46 -0500, Bill Nickels wrote: On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:25:28 -0500, Bill Nickels wrote: Shift-F8 didn't work.The num lock toggles but the keys don't respond.Thinking more of a keycode issue. Shift-F8 enable/disable Num. Lock/arrow movement (indeed, it toogles between both them). Jump to a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and test the num lock keys from there. Does it work? Thanks for the quick reply, Went to terminal, opened sensible-editor and same behavior. By terminal you mean tty, right? I mean, no gnome-terminal nor xterm. I'm trying to determinate if GNOME is the problem here or just X server misconfiguration or a hardware issue :-) Can you test with another keyboard? Just in case. BTW, does your 5335u keyboard have any special feature or is standard 104-keyboard? And have you set the correct keymap within GNOME (system/ preferences/keyboard/keyboard layout)? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.25.15.59...@gmail.com