Re: lightning, extension for icedove, screwed up
H.S. wrote: (Fixed the typo in the subject line.) H.S. wrote: Hello, I think after the recent two upgrades (within the last week), the Lightning extension for Icedove mail client seems to be screwed up. No calendars are shown anymore, no days are shown, the extension's interface is non-responsive for the most part. This is on Debian Testing and with Icedove 2.0.0.9-3 and 0.7 version of Lightning. Anybody else have similar problems? Or know what could be wrong? thanks, -HS Hi Try installing the package libnspr4-dev. It has fixed the problem for me. If it does not work, you can also try an 'apt-get build-dep icedove'. I have read of some people for whom this command has fixed it, although for me it wasn't necessary. Good luck! Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lightning, extension for icedove, screwed up
H.S. wrote: Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: H.S. wrote: (Fixed the typo in the subject line.) H.S. wrote: Hello, I think after the recent two upgrades (within the last week), the Lightning extension for Icedove mail client seems to be screwed up. No calendars are shown anymore, no days are shown, the extension's interface is non-responsive for the most part. This is on Debian Testing and with Icedove 2.0.0.9-3 and 0.7 version of Lightning. Anybody else have similar problems? Or know what could be wrong? thanks, -HS Hi Try installing the package libnspr4-dev. It has fixed the problem for me. If it does not work, you can also try an 'apt-get build-dep icedove'. I have read of some people for whom this command has fixed it, although for me it wasn't necessary. Tried the libnsp4-dev, no luck. BTW, here is actual error message I get when I try to install the extension: Lightning could not be installed because it is not compatible with your Icedove build type (linux-gnu_x86-gcc3). Please contact the author of this item about the problem. -HS Ok, so you're having trouble installing the plugin. This is easily fixable, but you have to mess up with the .xpi. Here's the step-by-step: 1 - download the xpi from the lightning web page (save it, but don't install it just yet) 2 - open a terminal and go to the folder where the xpi was saved. 3 - create a temp folder and enter it (mkdir lightning-tmp cd lightning-tmp) 4 - unzip ../lightning-0.7-tb-linux.xpi (adjust to the correct file name) 5 - open install.rdf with you favorite editor 6 - find the tag em:targetPlatform 7 - change the value of this tag to linux-gnu_x86-gcc3 (e.g. 'em:targetPlatformlinux-gnu_x86-gcc3/em:targetPlatform') 8 - save the file and exit the editor 9 - re-zip it (zip -r ../lightning-0.7-debian.xpi) then, you can 'cd ..', 'rm -rf lightning-tmp' and install the newly created lightning-0.7-debian.xpi. Should work with the nightly builds as well. Works perfectly for me. Info taken from http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/7805c89372f6b4f3 Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME desktop troubles
Dan H wrote: 2. For some reason, Gnome doesn't let me log out any more. And the startup window of the Gnome desktop just stays there, with Nautilus at the bottom. Starting applications etc. works. This may have started with my recent language experiments. UPDATE: Gnome /does/ log me out about a minute after I clicked on the Log out button without a warning. I have no idea what it does in the meantime. top doesn't show any busy processes. Very puzzling. --D. I had this problem before, and (strangely) it was because the system was having a hard time trying to resolve the machine's fqdn. Check /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts for your machine's hostname and resolve address. If you need help with these, post your doubts to the list. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMWare player: why no package?
Carl Fink wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 09:52:36PM -0500, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:46:47 -0500, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: VMWare Player's source has been released. Does anyone know why it isn't packaged for Debian? Should I just submit an RTP? -- FYI: a similar program 'Virtual Box' is packaged for Debian. I got VMWare Player going at the expense of a very irritating kernel rebuild. The advantage of VMWare is their packaging utility that converts existing Windows installations into VMs, and their tools (special video and mouse drivers) that let the VM blend seamlessly with X. I don't see mention of these things for VirtualBox. I don't think VirtualBox has such a conversion utility, but I'm almost sure that you can use one created by vmware's on VirtualBox. I have successfully run two physical Windows installs inside VirtualBox with just a little bit of hacking. I could even get them to work inside the VM and through direct boot. VBox has this package called Guest Additions that's similar to VMWare Tools in the sense that it makes the VM integrate with X (display resolution, mouse and even a feature that's called Seamless Integration, that allows you to run Win windows on top of your X desktop). By using VBox, you can also create and edit VMs without having to resort to external apps, like easyvmx.com or a text editor. Gripe: I had to rebuild the kernel because VMWare Player requires certain kernel modules, and they don't ship prebuilt ones for Debian. Their installer will then try to compile them, but they GCC build has to match the GCC used to compile the kernel, and Debian kernels are compiled with a significantly older GCC than is included in Testing. That's another advantage of VBox. I have never had any problem with its modules. VMWare's, though, are a pain in the ***... VMWare Player works great, by the way. Definitely, and it is great that they have made it open! Hope this helps! Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Miro freezes when using keyboard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I'm having a problem running Miro. Any keyboard input while having the app focused just causes the GUI to completely freeze. I have noticed that if I have videos downloading, they will keep up downloading until I explicitly shut Miro down, but there's no response from the GUI. I am running a pretty standard Lenny with GNOME/Metacity system in an AthlonXP 3200+ 512Mb RAM. Below is the output of running Miro from a terminal. The connection closed message at the end was after forcing the app closed. Mouse navigation is fine, but if I use the keyboard, even if it's just pressing Alt (to access the menu), it freezes. $ miro /usr/lib/xulrunner INFO Starting up Miro INFO Version:1.0 INFO Revision: unknown INFO Builder:[EMAIL PROTECTED] INFO Build Time: 1195176169.78 INFO Loading preferences... INFO Starting event loop thread INFO Restoring database... INFO Connecting to /home/cassiano/.miro/sqlitedb TIMING Database load slow: 0.051 INFO Spawning global feed dtv:manualFeed INFO Spawning global feed dtv:singleFeed INFO Spawning global feed dtv:search INFO Spawning global feed dtv:searchDownloads INFO Creating channel tab order INFO Creating playlist tab order INFO Spawning Miro Guide... INFO *** Launching Downloader Daemon INFO Adding default feeds u'http://www.getmiro.com/screencasts/windows/win.feed.rss' (u'Starter Channels', [u'http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss', u'http://feeds.pbs.org/pbs/kcet/wiredscience-video', u'http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/rss/podfeed-hd.xml', u'http://www.linktv.org/rss/hq/mosaic.xml']) INFO Spawning global feed dtv:directoryfeed INFO Spawning auto downloader... INFO Displaying main frame... WARNING Menu item action RenameVideo not implemented WARNING Menu item action FastForward not implemented WARNING Menu item action Rewind not implemented WARNING Menu item action UpVolume not implemented WARNING Menu item action DownVolume not implemented WARNING Volume changed before videoDisplay created WARNING Display updated before video display was created TIMING gtkAsyncMethod: function _gtkInit at 0x8728924 took too long: 2.958 INFO Creating video display... INFO loaded renderer 'xinerenderer' TIMING gtkAsyncMethod: function initRenderers at 0x87007d4 took too long: 3.437 TIMING gtkSyncMethod: function getDisplay at 0x8728b1c took too long: 3.558 INFO First URL is https://www.miroguide.com/firsttime TIMING Icon clear: 0.001 INFO Starting movie data updates INFO Finished startup sequence TIMING idle (finalizing startup) too slow (7.006 secs) TIMING idle (finalizing startup) cumulative is too slow (7.006 secs) INFO *** Daemon ready *** INFO got file:///tmp/tmpG9uxgf.html TIMING gtkAsyncMethod: function selectDisplay at 0x8728aac took too long: 2.181 INFO got file:///tmp/tmpuAw6y5.html INFO got https://www.miroguide.com/firsttime INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss INFO bad HTML in description for http://richie-b.blip.tv/posts/?skin=rss WARNING downloader: connection closed -- quitting INFO Shutting down downloaders... /usr/bin/miro: line 3: 15824 Killed LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/xulrunner ADDON_PATH=/tmp/empty miro.real $@ Any hints? Thanks a lot, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHeBKDpUJKYrmYCo0RAhIPAKDZISsEMyZUThJJ7XGQ8SqRUk49cwCcC8AX kD4VdFGinP2TkTDniYHSQ+I= =t3oR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 charlie derr wrote: It's been a while, but I just attempted a massive upgrade (executing aptitude upgrade) and ended up with: (...) E: I wasn't able to locate file for the desktop-base package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? I know you have probably checked this, but... Are you root? Or using sudo? Sorry, just checking... Sometimes, even the brightest one makes stupid little mistakes. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHeCQIpUJKYrmYCo0RAmZbAKC8aSf0zZ6WrzV7yn5nSsA8Q8GFbwCgrGGP gNKPyCu+47U06Q3C1b+qub8= =iRM5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling PHP
Hi, I'm trying to compile PHP 5.2.4 from lenny sources with support for oracle and some other stuff. For this, I am using dpkg-buildpkg. Right now, the problem I have is that the compilation ends in: (...) Generating files configure: creating ./config.status creating main/internal_functions.c creating main/internal_functions_cli.c ++ | License: | | This software is subject to the PHP License, available in this | | distribution in the file LICENSE. By continuing this installation | | process, you are bound by the terms of this license agreement. | | If you do not agree with the terms of this license, you must abort | | the installation process at this point.| ++ Thank you for using PHP. config.status: creating php5.spec config.status: creating main/build-defs.h config.status: creating scripts/phpize config.status: creating scripts/man1/phpize.1 config.status: creating scripts/php-config config.status: creating scripts/man1/php-config.1 config.status: creating sapi/cli/php.1 config.status: creating main/php_config.h config.status: executing default commands /bin/sh: line 18: --with-interbase: command not found /bin/sh: line 25: --with-mcrypt: command not found /bin/sh: line 31: --with-xsl: command not found /bin/sh: line 37: --enable-pdo: command not found make: *** [configure-apache2-stamp] Error 127 dpkg-buildpackage: failure: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 The last lines were changed in debian/rules. The package's defaults were --with-=shared,/usr This resulted in /bin/sh: line 18: --with-interbase=shared,/usr/lib: No such file or directory /bin/sh: line 24: --with-mcrypt=shared,/usr/lib: No such file or directory /bin/sh: line 26: --with-mhash=shared,/usr: No such file or directory /bin/sh: line 30: --with-xsl=shared,/usr/lib: No such file or directory /bin/sh: line 36: --enable-pdo=shared,/usr/lib: No such file or directory If I try to set them static, this is the result: /bin/sh: line 18: --with-interbase=static: command not found /bin/sh: line 25: --with-mcrypt=static: command not found /bin/sh: line 31: --with-xsl=static: command not found /bin/sh: line 37: --enable-pdo=static: command not found /bin/sh: line 39: --disable-ipv6: command not found I am using an up-to-date lenny system in an i386 platform. What am I missing? Thanks a lot, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling PHP
Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: Hi, I'm trying to compile PHP 5.2.4 from lenny sources with support for oracle and some other stuff. For this, I am using dpkg-buildpkg. Right now, the problem I have is that the compilation ends in: (...) I am using an up-to-date lenny system in an i386 platform. What am I missing? Thanks a lot, Cassiano Leal I had messed debian/rules all up by trying to comment lines with a # char... I have corrected that, and now I get: checking size of long int... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long int) See `config.log' for more details. Also: $ tail apache2-build/config.log #define HAVE_OCI8 1 #define HAVE_UNIXODBC 1 #define HAVE_SQLDATASOURCES 1 #define HAVE_UODBC 1 #define COMPILE_DL_ODBC 1 #define COMPILE_DL_PDO 1 #define HAVE_PDO_FIREBIRD 1 #define COMPILE_DL_PDO_FIREBIRD 1 configure: exit 77 Any hints? Thanks again! Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aumnayan D'Letti wrote: I am installing the latest stable version of Debian (40rl) and am having an issue with how it's seeing my primary HD. It's set up as the master on the primary IDE chain, which to me signifies that it should be seen as IDE1, or HDA. However, the partitioner is picking it up as IDE5 (hde). Which posses no problems for me until the installation is completed, as there is no /dev/hde. Welcome to the brave new world of udev. Device names in /dev are no longer stable. They get created on the fly as needed, and they don't always get created in the same order from one boot to the next. There's a persistence mechanism but you can't rely on it yet. (... snip ...) You can also use the symlinks from /dev/disk/by- . These are created on the fly as well, but they use some physical characteristics of the volumes to link them to the correct /dev/[hs]d[a-z]. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXUC2q4Bz51JiUuERAvIRAJ0Q4YBcInPLUNYIN9960k/zeyswIwCeK0gb JMzryAEIaAEJASX760PqAjQ= =2kh3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to report bug? sparc64 crashes probably from mysqld
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dominik Reusser wrote: [...] Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: current-{active_,}mm-context = 099b Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: current-{active_,}mm-pgd = f80016884000 Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: \|/ \|/ Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: @'/ .. \`@ Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: /_| \__/ |_\ Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: \__U_/ [...] Is this for real??? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXXGmq4Bz51JiUuERAkHuAJ9UbTY7CHV3M2VnzuKMoEGTRpmYsACghC0H ccii/O6PaFZFNidZqf1tcTU= =N34N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to report bug? sparc64 crashes probably from mysqld
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Shuler wrote: On 12/10/2007 11:04 AM, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: Dominik Reusser wrote: [...] Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: current-{active_,}mm-context = 099b Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: current-{active_,}mm-pgd = f80016884000 Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: \|/ \|/ Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: @'/ .. \`@ Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: /_| \__/ |_\ Dec 10 10:11:45 libdb kernel: \__U_/ [...] Is this for real??? Yes. This is still in the 2.6.23.9 sparc and sparc64 arch kernel/traps.c source. /* Amuse the user. */ printk( \\|/ \\|/\n \@'/ .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n /_| \\__/ |_\\\n \\__U_/\n); LOL... That's why I love free software! Heh! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXYISq4Bz51JiUuERAnGgAJ9H52oiVsv0Q32dwFWUJnFrP0hN1wCg3668 0qAGb4QyvaPg27/RruJpqxc= =Lhxu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are lenny weekly build CD ISOs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Fox wrote: On 12/6/07, Cassiano Bertol Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All -cd directories under http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/ are empty... The - -dvd ones are there. Are the CDs not being generated? I just went there. And the CD images/jigdo/torrent files are missing, at least on the i386 architecture. On the other hand, they're present for mips and arm, and missing (even dvd's) from amd64. So it looks like maybe the process didn't complete? Try again next week (or this week?). Nope... Still empty. Maybe I'll follow your advice and just try again next week. Thanks, anyway. Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHWTakq4Bz51JiUuERAk8HAJ9leRQrG+PcSblkWNj3+Wk8zX2+lQCgoMzs qCWC6CoTtkDhUT/ROduJP9s= =Ie82 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where are lenny weekly build CD ISOs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, the subject pretty much says it all... All -cd directories under http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/ are empty... The - -dvd ones are there. Are the CDs not being generated? Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHV/Axq4Bz51JiUuERAgdeAJ0VVPdCgpw9GSTkmsTOgbY0EgMvAACfeOde 1KJ71ZfYf/hkuGI21PBr7VM= =TiMc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash color aliases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Ruffer wrote: Hello, can you please tell me how to set colors and aliases in my bash. I read the docs and comments, which told me to add or uncomment the lines in /home/user/.bashrc. I did that, but the changes didn't take an effect. For the root user it works when I change /root/.bashrc How can I change the bash for a normal user? best regards, Christian It actually *is* like that. The thing is that it will not work until the next time you log in. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHWALIq4Bz51JiUuERAsP8AJ9lbgXnrxVy4tPhdANJIK5lX3q+7ACfdCHM el84xnVd11X/MsxB82P04yA= =4N9D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash color aliases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Ruffer wrote: Hello Cassiano, thats what I expected. I did logout and login a several times while trying, but nothing happend. Is there a another place which overrights the /home/user/.bashrc ? Have a look at ~/.bash_profile (where ~ is the user's home dir). Look for these lines: # include .bashrc if it exists if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc fi It should look like what I have pasted above. If the if ... fi statement is commented out, uncomment it. Otherwise, .bash_profile will be run, but .bashrc won't. Hope it solves your problem! Christian Cheers, Cassiano Leal P.S.: Please don't top-post as it makes it harder to follow long threads. Cassiano Bertol Leal schrieb: Christian Ruffer wrote: Hello, can you please tell me how to set colors and aliases in my bash. I read the docs and comments, which told me to add or uncomment the lines in /home/user/.bashrc. I did that, but the changes didn't take an effect. For the root user it works when I change /root/.bashrc How can I change the bash for a normal user? best regards, Christian It actually *is* like that. The thing is that it will not work until the next time you log in. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHWDINq4Bz51JiUuERAqI8AKC2EBYSklZe2x2aq1WDfhzgQvDDCQCgqje0 hm+dWnCfmy3AVWak+cLBKLw= =nrhM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Socket A motherboard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/04/07 11:30, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/03/07 20:59, Sam Leon wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: And *none* will have SATA. Do you mean sataII? There are alot of socket A boards that have sata, the nf7-s v2 included. I'm surprised. But then Wikipedia tells me that it's aka Socket 462, so it's lasted longer than I thought it did. Why is it surprising? P4's are still alive and many have support for SATA. Alive as in still works? Or alive as in still being fabricated? Alive as in still work and as in many companies and individuals still largely use them with an emphasis on *largely*. I have not yet come across a company that would provide me with anything different from a P4 or a P4-HT for my workstation. Unless I'm totally out of the loop 32-bit Athlons and P4s haven't been fabbed in more than a year. more than a year? And when did SATA come out? Last This was supposed to be: Last month? I actually find my Athlon XP Barton to be more responsive than some P4-HT that I have used. Why would it not support SATA? Look at the A7N8X from ASUS, for example. If you google for socket a +sata, you'll get many... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVpO0q4Bz51JiUuERAjq+AKDr05JLZVlQ3eDW+ayZR8kHIIY1awCgzLgS zaYJXLvfjS6dCzHd6I3WGrc= =W09o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mount doesn't follow symbolik links on SAMBA, but Nautilus does
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have a problem with a Samba share at work. The share has some symbolic links to directories that are not shared. If I mount the share via 'mount -t smbfs', these links don't work. If I access this same share via Nautilus with 'smb://...', I can follow all links without a problem. Here's an example of what happens: Server SAMBA has a share called SHARE for the /DIR directory (smb://SAMBA/SHARE points to /DIR). Inside /DIR, there's /DIR/LINK - /home/user/somedir If I mount SHARE via mount/fstab and ls -l it, I still get: /DIR/LINK - /home/user/somedir This link's destination doesn't exist in my system, and thus the link is invalid. Even if it existed, it wouldn't be what I was lookig for. If I mount smb://SAMBA/SHARE in Nautilus and follow LINK, it redirects me to /home/user/somedir on the server automagically. What's the magic that Nautilus does? Can I do it via mount / fstab ? Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVwHIq4Bz51JiUuERAqOYAKDoGei8zasPHsSAn95jv94I3nmFgACfT0BB XJaO5PeYvcdidlf9xbW/raw= =mOo9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Socket A motherboard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/04/07 11:30, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/03/07 20:59, Sam Leon wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: And *none* will have SATA. Do you mean sataII? There are alot of socket A boards that have sata, the nf7-s v2 included. I'm surprised. But then Wikipedia tells me that it's aka Socket 462, so it's lasted longer than I thought it did. Why is it surprising? P4's are still alive and many have support for SATA. Alive as in still works? Or alive as in still being fabricated? Alive as in still work and as in many companies and individuals still largely use them with an emphasis on *largely*. I have not yet come across a company that would provide me with anything different from a P4 or a P4-HT for my workstation. Unless I'm totally out of the loop 32-bit Athlons and P4s haven't been fabbed in more than a year. more than a year? And when did SATA come out? Last I actually find my Athlon XP Barton to be more responsive than some P4-HT that I have used. Why would it not support SATA? Look at the A7N8X from ASUS, for example. If you google for socket a +sata, you'll get many... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVo85q4Bz51JiUuERAufmAJ4se6ClYluK8nCaTe1/3+ZBVZ5nkgCgrvOG wth+tH3NaXG16+EaQdLfrxs= =fMdc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiz fusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ivan Glushkov wrote: Hi, I have already compiz on my laptop, but I want to try also compiz fusion (mainly due to its nice configuration tool). What is the proper way to do it in Debian (lenny)? Can I take it from Ubuntu repository (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion)? Or should I build it by myself(http://releases.compiz-fusion.org/0.6.0/)? Do you know some nice how-to for compiz fusion on Debian? I googled around but I found only a page on Italian on the topic.. Thanks in advance, Ivan To all interested: the away is to add to your sources.list deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-sid/desktopfx/unstable/ ./ update and apt-get install compiz-fusion-kde or compiz-fusion-gnome depending on your windows manager. Then compiz --replace in a terminal creates all the goodies :) Enjoy, Ivan Instead of doing a 'compiz --replace', you could run fusion-icon. This way, you'll get a blue cube icon on your tray, and from there you can control all aspects of compiz and emerald. It's even possible to quick switch window managers, in case you have a problem with compiz. Cheers Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVYwnq4Bz51JiUuERAoICAKDmKlpZmtAGb+EXBeVTLEZgy6ukYwCfc6Bv a9+g4QVVAHrPsWPm4KZUuko= =mV/8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Socket A motherboard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/03/07 20:59, Sam Leon wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: And *none* will have SATA. Do you mean sataII? There are alot of socket A boards that have sata, the nf7-s v2 included. I'm surprised. But then Wikipedia tells me that it's aka Socket 462, so it's lasted longer than I thought it did. Why is it surprising? P4's are still alive and many have support for SATA. I actually find my Athlon XP Barton to be more responsive than some P4-HT that I have used. Why would it not support SATA? Look at the A7N8X from ASUS, for example. If you google for socket a +sata, you'll get many... Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVY6Yq4Bz51JiUuERAvqYAKDEa67QTD5FtXnyrQe2BYmx/C0QVgCfT49y ZznWLi8DA2Ggz7v0rwJMPPs= =mIwE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System won't boot after successful Debian installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Schulberg wrote: Hi, I have installed Debian 4.0 without any apparent problem. However when I boot the PC I am getting the error ‘Primary master hard disk fail’. When the computer starts up the BIOS recognizes my sole HD as the primary master. Is this a problem with the hard disk itself? The HD is a new warranty replacement from Western Digital so I would expect it to be OK. Have a look at this page: http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/sys/booterr-i.htm and follow the link that says ‘Primary master hard disk fail’. Is it a BIOS message? If so, you could try opening up your case and tightening the cabling. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRcanq4Bz51JiUuERAqxNAKDngrSqLqkGii1KfrUJLjjbT99suQCgjkpC NdP8vVvy6Uwr0e1vVrlKP54= =s4S2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Waiting for root file system... ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I am trying to make a smooth transition fom windows to Debian in my work PC. I needed to be sure that not having win on this machine wouldn't affect my work, since unfortunatelly we use many windows-based applications. For that, I thought of first installing a proof-of-concept Debian inside a VM. This way, I could go on installing Debian and all the tools I needed without having to break my workflow. Since I wanted to make the move from MS to freedom, before I started with the adventure, I freed space in my HD and told the VM to use my physical disk instead of creating a virtual one. At the moment, I have a fully working Debian Lenny that runs smoothly inside the VM. The current situation is as follows: When I boot the PC, I am presented with a GRUB menu with three options: Debian's stock kernel, the same kernel but single-user, and Windows. Currently, I am only able to boot Windows. After doing that, When I boot the VM, I get the same GRUB menu and can boot Debian without a problem. The problem is when I want to boot Debian directly on the PC and not inside the VM. The boot process starts normally, but then hangs. The last lines that appear in the boot are: Begin: Mounting root file system... ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top ... Done. Begin: Waiting for root file system... ... And from there, I can only Control-Alt-Delete or do a cold reset. The machine is a Dell Optiplex GX280 P4-HT with 2GB RAM and a 80Gb IDE HD. Any ideas? Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIOvNq4Bz51JiUuERAlodAKCMJ74CWTXwVDJrSdTpMyBc7/a5fQCdHRzA /I31IGFgE05UMYK9U8TF5Yg= =rZLg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can I schede a command to be run when I have log out?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Mahoney wrote: Serena Cantor wrote: I use sarge and crontab. If I log out, what happen to the program I started ? Since you mentioned crontab, I'll assume that's the method you're interested in. Once you've defined a job in crontab, that job doesn't care whether you're logged in. Crontab itself is controlled by the system so you don't need to worry it. Have a look at this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-runs-linux-unix-program-in-newsession.html Hope it helps! Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHHj1dq4Bz51JiUuERAn+tAKCM46VDmnRfVERDxfF/bueKh4N3nQCbBuUL 9homaAYepnOFZoR4LRCJYYE= =zF5n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400 Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a root account on any Debian release. The only difference is it doesn't have a password on setup. You've GOT to be kidding... Right? Please? On Debian you enter the root pw at setup. You don't on Ubuntu, but when I setup a new Ubuntu system, all I do is create a root password w/ sudo and from then on it works like any other system with a root account. Is that so surprising, or did I miss something? I think that Ron understands that the root account on Ubuntu is accessible by anyone without entering a password; I seem to recall (from posts to this list) that actually no one can access the Ubuntu root account until a password has been set for it. Not being able to access an account without a password is default even for Debian, AFAIK. I have done this once, deleting the password hash from an account in /etc/shadow, and then trying to login with that user. Couldn't find a way, and actually used it as some form of security. This is probably what happens in Ubuntu, too. Considering that the user has full sudo access and that the root account actually exists, it should be no surprise that a 'sudo passwd root' would give the user login access to the root account. Hal Celejar Cassiano -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG1ys9q4Bz51JiUuERAtovAJ9zCYL9JtOvXyVTTTWgUyDFBKqjQwCgwLEJ uzonzf4ybFc104UlhR7SMzY= =sVn5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch on MacBook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 29, 2007, at 2:53 AM, Mirco Piccin wrote: Hi! you want to visit http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook Of course, i've already visit that web site (also others.. :-))... But, really my question was more complicated, over the installation ... ... what shall you do, if you could choose between intel laptop and mac intel laptop? I'd be seriously torn. I like them both a lot. Personally, I'd lean towards the IBM for three reasons: - I like eraserhead mice better than touchpads - I like three-button mice better than one-button mice. You can simulate three buttons with the Apple's built-in mouse but it's awkward. You can simply plug a USB tree-buttons mouse on the Mac and you'll be fine. Works like a charm. Even scroll wheels just work^TM on OS X, so I guess Linux would not have a problem with using it either. - Apple's hardware reliability has not exactly been stellar. Seems like most of my friends who have Apple laptops have had a logic board failure at one point or another. If you do buy the Mac, get an extended warranty and you should be OK. I know of two people with Mac laptops. One is my girlfriend, who's had a G4 iBook for about four years without a single hardware OR software poblem whatsoever. The other one is my sister, with a year-old Intel MacBook, that has not yet had any faults either. These seem (at least to me) to be some of the most solid computers around. Not to mention that it's really nice that in the newer models, both the lid closure and the power cord have magnets instead of mechanical locks. You close the lid and it just snaps closed. To open, there are no buttons attached to hooks to keep it closed. Not to mention that the MacBooks are also slim and light. AND their CD/DVD drives are not of the shelfe type. You just stick the media in it and it pulls it in. Just like an in-car CD player. Cool. OS X is really, really nice, but it sounds like you plan to run Linux on it anyway, so that doesn't really enter the picture. Cassiano -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG1asLq4Bz51JiUuERAqUsAJ9E2rX1dPAq3QVc1HxHQevt6nSXlACfVHkb It4fliN16An6+8X85vVcx3w= =rSTK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch on MacBook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 29, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: You can simply plug a USB tree-buttons mouse on the Mac and you'll be fine. Works like a charm. Oh, I realize that. But in portable use, where you're using the built-in touchpad, you're stuck with only one button. IBM is to be commended for putting three-button mice on their laptops. It makes using them with X Windows much easier. True. No argue to that. Not to mention that it's really nice that in the newer models, both the lid closure and the power cord have magnets instead of mechanical locks. You close the lid and it just snaps closed. To open, there are no buttons attached to hooks to keep it closed. This is a really clever design feature, I agree. I also like the little flip-out hooks for winding up the AC adapter low voltage cord, although they forgot to provide any for the 120 volt cord. Yeah, it's really cool. I'm not sure about the newer models, but my girfriend's G4's 120v cord can be unattached from the converter and a simple mains plug w/o a cord can be attached in its place, in a way that you will have the converter hanging directly from the mains, and then the low voltage cord. Not to mention that the MacBooks are also slim and light. AND their CD/DVD drives are not of the shelfe type. You just stick the media in it and it pulls it in. Just like an in-car CD player. Cool. This seems like a great idea until you need to read one of those three-inch mini-CDs. ;) Hahaha... Had never thought of that! I guess for most users it wouldn't be a problem, but if you really have the need for it, it will definitely be annoying. Cassiano -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG1cAPq4Bz51JiUuERAnKRAKDBPZBZ5DmoQFIz76Sdac0/d6SKagCeLFVj CSyfvAPgNzJH4Uns6m13Kag= =XEjH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan H wrote: Hello, one quick question: Does each and every USB device that gets plugged into the computer generate a console message? Background: I'm trying to get an HP scanner (6200C) to work, but the sane tools won't recognize it. And when I look at the root console when I connect the USB cable, I see no message. In contrast, when I plug in my memory stick, my portable disk or my camera, the kernel always spits out some message. This looks as if the scanner (or at least the USB interface) is shot, hardware-wise. Valid conclusion? Thans, --D. Not necessarily, although if your other devices do, I would say that the scanner probably would, too. Still, try issuing $ sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog and then plugging in your scanner. If the scanner is being detected, something will definitely show up in there. Also, what does $ lsusb say when you have the scanner plugged in? Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGztbQq4Bz51JiUuERAq9+AKC3oymuVZ42kotsgF7OZSkIC3HfxgCfZU9F cQZqQGTEgqLrvWkbZMLI5ZQ= =Qtiy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good fdisk Practices
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/24/07 11:16, David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap partition, whereas you can add as many swap files as your heart desires, whenever you need them. I'd always heard that swap files are slower than swap partitions. Is that a myth? That was the definite truth in v2.4 and lower. It was supposed to be fixed in 2.6. Also, is there any good reason to have a separate /boot on a modern system? I always thought /boot was just a kludge to get around old BIOSes that couldn't load anything that wasn't on the first part of the disk. I tend to just combine /boot and / on my newer systems -- am I taking some kind of risk by doing so? I doubt it. I still do it, though, from tradition I guess. If you use LVM you're stuck with a separate, non-LVM /boot partition AFAIK. Or is this outated info? Cassiano -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGzxRJq4Bz51JiUuERAq0LAKDrxG2z5Ix6fTWTWuIhhQk7FQWDqQCgjLUV zNPlzIXg0uaJzNbuNspaJeU= =EAQs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: harddisc errors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joris Huizer wrote: --- Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, a small update here. I booted in rescue mode and did the `e2fsck -f -c -c` on the root partition. It seems to fix something (giving a warning 'FILESYSTEM HAS CHANGED' or something similar) I'm suspecting the problems I saw were caused by hdparm+udev - I purged udev and reinstalled (and removed a stale /dev/.udev) and disabled hdparm, and no more errors were coming up; I tried reenabling hdparm, but was getting some modules not getting loaded again - so I purged hdparm. I found information online that suggested udev and hdparm together might cause problem ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/27940 ), though obviously in this case it is most likely a misconfiguration issue, not a bug in either of the two programs. Am currently thinking of reinstalling hdparm, though I think I need advice as how to configure it (installing it, or `dpkg-reconfigure hdparm`, aren't giving configuration help) Since udev is required by the most recent kernels, you probably don't want to install something that prevents you from having udev. What is it you want hdparm for? Doug. In case hdparm and udev really don't mix together, I won't reinstall hdparm anymore (but if that's the case udev should be marked as conflicting with hdparm, or hdparm with udev, or so) I just want hdparm for efficient hard-disc usage (as I originally installed it as it could enable DMA and other hard disc settings, that normally would remain disabled) Though perhaps nowadays this is just configured in the kernel automatically? regards, Joris In my Debian testing system, udev and hdparm live together and harmoniously. hdparm does its job well, as does udev with no conflicts whatsoever. Cassiano -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGzxmfq4Bz51JiUuERAj8hAKDW+xqTyhia6/L68gpQy/P2lkN1OgCfZIvi Bv17OhDy/KFwBt/jqIEwGak= =5zTa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating stand-alone learning stations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [No top-posting, please] Jude DaShiell wrote: Try the ubuntu-accessibility list. If you get the chance in a gnome terminal type orca -t cr one day and make sure you hve speakers hooked up to your sound card when you do that. Headphones can be substituted for speakers in classroom settings though. On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, ZephyrQ wrote: I'm a high school special education teacher who has been given permission to test Linux on a few laptops to use as workstations. I've installed Edubuntu on 3, and would like some direction concerning creating a 'skeleton' desktop so every new user created has the same (limited) options. (I realize this isn't the Edubuntu group, but there is little traffic on the Edubuntu mailing list and I think this is a Debian/Linux specific fix. I could be wrong tho...) These stations will be used as both learning (I am in special need of reading software) tools and incentive (my classroom specializes in 'behavorial needs' students.) Can anyone direct me the to the right sites/documentation? Thank you. You could try logging in with user 'sample', fresh, and customize your standard desktop. Once you're satisfied with it, copy all contents from /home/sample to /etc/skel . When new users are created, their /home will be copied from /etc/skel, thus giving you that same standard. Quick, easy and effective. Just my $.02 Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGudtYq4Bz51JiUuERAuwpAJ97xKn7+mToSnlhbyGMMRReCiqesgCgsFle HgVHKiS7HswJxS191r4ct3U= =skrv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike McCarty wrote: Nate Bargmann wrote: * Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Aug 07 17:29 -0500]: However, I'd say installation is VERY HARD. That's why we use Debian, it makes the hard tasks easy and the impossible ones possbile. This is not an issue with the distro, it's a defect in the original package. There is a version for FC, which I use, but not for FC2, the support starts with FC5. But the original Makefile needs to be fixed. Mike I second Nate's statement. Even though it's not a distro issue, I guess that the maintainer of kqemu-source must have fixed these issues, since by using 'aptitude install' and 'module-assistant' I could compile and install the module without any hassle. Cassiano Leal P.S.: Mike, sorry for replying to your personal e-mail. Re-posting reply to the list. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGudvUq4Bz51JiUuERAglEAJ9N1bOvIXw+ZbtjI3aXNOmw9y7ylgCfXg7w 96Me0SDh+u2XyeMwCyyTkm0= =jyTH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux on a Router
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob escreveu: ArcticFox wrote: On Jul 10, 2007, at 11:32 PM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 11:20:09PM -0500, ArcticFox wrote: The problem with DD-WRT is that as far as I can tell it only works on WRT-routers, I don't have one of those I can mess with. As far as I can tell, there isn't a Linux dest that will run on the router I do have. That's not quite right, it runs on quite a wide variety of kit, including i386, some atheros stuff and most of the broadcom chips. Does anyone know if any of these Linux firmwares could be flashed into a 3COM OfficeConnect ADSL Modem/Router? Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGlSBzq4Bz51JiUuERAjG9AJ9thbjURjV6h484onRdvtzOOgWToACgpKRF b3yJcs/Y1jRImTIwqrXgXao= =48y7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RTF - proprietary or open?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez escreveu: On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in Article [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: That depends on your definition of available. If the person receiving your document is on dialup and not in a position to download the 100+ MB OOo or is otherwise not sufficiently proficient to install software, then you are basically left with default windows tools, which are wordpad, and occasionally works or word. True, but wouldn't not having any proper office suite, on dialup, running Windows make about as much sense for business as switching to MacOS for the games? Is that a large enough edge case for anybody to bother worrying about? I wasn't thinking so much of the business users themselves, but rather their customers. In any case, you bring up a good point. Of course, I have also worked places where any unapproved software was strictly verbotten. Getting software approved at one of these places would require a presidential executive order, act of congress, plantery alignment and a lunar eclipse all in the same day. Even then the security folks might still not sign off. While I personally prefer OOo over MSO and try to encourage people to switch, it will be a long time yet before non-MS formats are considered standard. Regards, -Roberto This mught be a first step towards standardization: Sun ODF Plug in 1.0 for Microsoft Office Available Now as a Free Download Microsoft Office users can now import and export to Open Document Format (ODF). The Sun ODF Plug in for Microsoft Office gives users of Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint the ability to read, edit and save to the ISO-standard Open Document Format. The ODF Plug in is available as a free download from the Sun Download Center (SDLC). Download the ODF Plug in. The Plug in is easy to setup and use, the conversion happens transparently and the additional memory footprint is minimal. Microsoft Office users now can have seamless two-way conversion of Microsoft Office documents to and from Open Document. The ODF Plug in runs on Microsoft Windows and is available in English. More language support will be available in later releases. The plug-in allows Microsoft Office (for Windows) users to open ODF files and save their work in ODF formats used by OpenOffice, StarOffice, and other programs. According to the ReadMe, the plug-in adds ODF Text Document (*.odt) as a format to Word's Open and Save dialogs and adds Import and Export options to Excel and PowerPoint. http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=8PartDetailId=ODF-WIN-G-FTransactionId=noreg Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGkmNDq4Bz51JiUuERAk8gAJ0c1/ywkJpM7SvbK/G3C2WwDY0/UQCgtFPc o8NAhbMRnVB31GIvfTCt6LM= =eHeX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RTF - proprietary or open?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez escreveu: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 01:33:07PM -0300, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: The Sun ODF Plug in for Microsoft Office gives users of Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint the ability to read, edit and save to the ISO-standard Open Document Format. The ODF Plug in is available as a free download from the Sun Download Center (SDLC). Download the ODF Plug in. This is probably a good first step and good for home users and small businesses. However, in big enterprises there will likely be some resistance. I hope that it finds quick universal adoption. Regards, -Roberto True, but if more and more home users and small businesses start using it, eventually the big ones will have to look towards the standard. All big companies have smaller partners, and their adopting the open standard would slowly push the big ones. Well, that's some kind of hope, anyway... Cassiano -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGkpsdq4Bz51JiUuERAmjTAJ9J4RROqnaGnS9NG4/KA6pG0VM0LQCfRUW5 0FJYy4Mm8ifW/bK6P5kTonA= =5EzY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automounting USB drive on GNOME stopped working...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Proulx escreveu: Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: Ron Johnson escreveu: Have you run tail -n40 -f /var/log/syslog while plugging in the pen drives? Or is that what you mean by it will load the drivers and assign a /dev/sd* node? I will have a look at syslog when I get back home. I have monitored /var/log/messages and that's where I watched the pendrive and the MP3 being recognized and and the /dev/sd* being assigned to them. /var/log/messages is a subset of /var/log/syslog suitable for people who are used to other systems but syslog is the superset of all log files. I would get used to looking in /var/log/syslog and forget about /var/log/messages. But in this case you probably saw all of the same messages that are logged to syslog. The configuration is that *.* matches everything and everything goes into /var/log/syslog. *.=info;*.=notice;*.=warn; auth,authpriv.none; cron,daemon.none; mail,news.none matches somewhat less and goes into /var/log/messages. This is great. I actually knew about it, but had forgotten. I once had to fiddle around with where the loggings would go to, because I was suffering from little disk space in a server with too much logging. Also, there's the fact that a simple 'pmount /dev/sda1' (for example) or a 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/whatever' will mount the drives with no problems whatsoever. I am imagining that you have told Gnome to ignore the USB drive. This could be checked pretty easily by creating a test user such as test1 or guest or some such and then logging in as that new user. If it works for the pristine user's environment then you know that the configuration issue is specific to gnome and specific to your $HOME/.gnome*something files. This is a good test. I will try it when I get back home. Also, would gnome-mount be a requirement for the kind of behaviour I am expecting? I didn't have the chance to check if I do have it installed, but it seems that it's not a dependency of gnome-volume-manager, so I might not have it. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGik6nq4Bz51JiUuERApCJAKC9Pky2ezMcteRsmqu/OrtbqrIQxgCglYcm xnAlZajj/B/7rXTtxxqOcSY= =lpJM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Automounting USB drive on GNOME stopped working...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I have been having problems with automounting USB drives in GNOME. It used to work flawlessly, but suddenly stopped (I know that 'suddenly stopped' is a bit too vague, but that's what I've got...). I am not in front of my home computer right now, so I will give details as they come to memory, sorry about that. CDs get automounted perfectly. USB drives used to work as well. The two drives that I have tested were a Kingston 1GB pendrive and an HDD MP3 player from Cowon, which acts as an external HDD when plugged in the USB port. They are both behaving the same way: when I plug the device in the USB, it will load the drivers and assign a /dev/sd* node. They both work ok if I manually mount them. I have checked if gnome-volume-manager is running, and it is. I have killed it and re-run it with -no-daemon and watched the output. It will detect the drive, but then it says something like 'not a mountable volume' and remove it from automounting... I am running a mix system of lenny and sid, and have tried packages from both, notably udev, hal and gnome-volume-manager and no success.. Any ideas? Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGiQ0iq4Bz51JiUuERAq/+AKDK4WrVmNE84aBYquSzF7VwE9IWfgCeInDY YS/GB/6pcr4xBsn/39evnns= =8t0D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automounting USB drive on GNOME stopped working...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson escreveu: On 07/02/07 09:35, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I have been having problems with automounting USB drives in GNOME. It used to work flawlessly, but suddenly stopped (I know that 'suddenly stopped' is a bit too vague, but that's what I've got...). I am not in front of my home computer right now, so I will give details as they come to memory, sorry about that. CDs get automounted perfectly. USB drives used to work as well. The two drives that I have tested were a Kingston 1GB pendrive and an HDD MP3 player from Cowon, which acts as an external HDD when plugged in the USB port. They are both behaving the same way: when I plug the device in the USB, it will load the drivers and assign a /dev/sd* node. They both work ok if I manually mount them. I have checked if gnome-volume-manager is running, and it is. I have killed it and re-run it with -no-daemon and watched the output. It will detect the drive, but then it says something like 'not a mountable volume' and remove it from automounting... I am running a mix system of lenny and sid, and have tried packages from both, notably udev, hal and gnome-volume-manager and no success.. Any ideas? Have you updated any packages lately? Have you run tail -n40 -f /var/log/syslog while plugging in the pen drives? Or is that what you mean by it will load the drivers and assign a /dev/sd* node? I will have a look at syslog when I get back home. I have monitored /var/log/messages and that's where I watched the pendrive and the MP3 being recognized and and the /dev/sd* being assigned to them. Also, there's the fact that a simple 'pmount /dev/sda1' (for example) or a 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/whatever' will mount the drives with no problems whatsoever. I have definitely updated packages, and even fiddled around with downgrading some from sid to lenny to try and make it work as before, to no avail. I also use a compiled 2.6.21 kernel, but I have tried the latest stock one (2.6.18, IIRC) and had the same results. Thanks! Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGiTs7q4Bz51JiUuERAjYCAJ4soLEYG+VEeVSZSnc6wRCz3SR/aQCgvc5Q YeLyN4+g0J4RAK9d1sF+rmM= =4WpN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rosegarden claims there is no driver for the sequencer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I have been trying to set up a DAW (digital audio workstation) out of my lenny/sid box for basic midi/audio sequencing and editing, so that I can get rid of windoze for good. I have gone through many steps to improve responsiveness and to get better latencies. I am currently using jackd, which works flawlessly for most of my applications, for both midi and audio. The only problem I have faced so far is with Rosegarden. I can successfully use ardour-gtk, wired, audacity and other things like standalone synths, hydrogen (which is an amazing drum machine, btw) and others. THe only app that's still bugging me (and which is the one that I want to turn into the center of my daw) is Rosegarden. It used to work fine in etch (I might try to downgrade it to etch's when I get home). When I first upgraded my system to lenny (about the time when etch was released), it wouldn't even open, popping out a crash information window. Since then, it started to open fine, but if when enter the configuration screen and click on 'Sequencer', it says 'No driver'. When I click the button next to it ('More Info', I think), it will crash again. I have checked with lsmod, and I do have all the snd-seq modules loaded, as well as my sound card's module (audio works fine, and as I said before other apps do work just fine). Has any body had any similar experience with Rosegarden? Obs: I use a GNOME desktop, so kde libs and stuff are only installed as dependencies so that Rosegarden and Kopete can run. I am using a custom 2.6.21 kernel, but have also tried the latest stock one (2.6.18, if I'm not wrong). I would appreciate any suggestions. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGiUVwq4Bz51JiUuERAkkvAKDBj0VHn9C6jiRU88V3Bb2umR1MAQCgr/Mm 6DVMlWAheAa+pFD/GCgateE= =HhpU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to change the default GTK input method?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cassiano Bertol Leal escreveu: Jan Willem Stumpel escreveu: S, my question is: is there a way I can set my DEFAULT input method to this cedilla thing, and never have to worry about accenting a c again? Don't know if it can be done, even if it could, the Cedilla Immodule only works in GTK programs, and not in all of them at that. You must do it in another way, with xkb and Compose. This is what I want. To change only GTK programs' behaviour, since it works perfectly fine for everything else. I don't really know why GTK has to be different from anything else in the world, defaulting ´+c to an accute 'c'. Winblows' US-International keymap does c-cedilla. xim's default input method for us_intl defaults to c-cedilla. (this is as far as my experience goes, but it seems like a standard to me) What is your locale? (Output of locale command). What is your keyboard? (Output of setxkbmap -print command). If the locale is pt_BR.UTF-8, and the keyboard is us (alt_intl), you would already have the desired behaviour (in all programs under X, not only GTK programs). So I suppose it is something else. It's en_GB.UTF-8 If your locale is en_US.UTF-8, you can get the behaviour that you want by putting a file called .XCompose in your home directory with the following contents: include /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose dead_acute C: Ç Ccedilla dead_acute c: ç ccedilla Then restart X. Don't really want to mess around with these files. I really don't understand why it should be so difficult to change the IM to default to Cedilla, since it is already there! If only it was possible to change it in all applications via context menu, it wouldn't be that annoying, but it is particularly difficult to type in portuguese in programs like iceweasel or icedove (which is my MUA, so imagine that)... If your locale is an iso8859-1 one, you must put \307 instead of Ç, and \347 instead of ç. Regards, Jan Thanks for your thoughts, but I'll look further ahead for a better solution, if there is one. I was also recommended to put 'LC_ALL=pt_BR' in /etc/environment. Are there any side effects to this? Thanks again. Cheers, Cassiano Leal Just for the record, in case other people who write in portuguese needs it, it will be in the archives. Putting GTK_IM_MODULE=xim in /etc/environment did the trick. Now I can use my US keyboard to type in portuguese in the same way I had always done. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGeq+Pq4Bz51JiUuERAowLAJ4n0MBiaSFYTxJkPhO1VOjlb/ILNQCgtmCp Jy1XXy3nKqDO7KVURVQecbk= =LbWm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to change the default GTK input method?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Willem Stumpel escreveu: S, my question is: is there a way I can set my DEFAULT input method to this cedilla thing, and never have to worry about accenting a c again? Don't know if it can be done, even if it could, the Cedilla Immodule only works in GTK programs, and not in all of them at that. You must do it in another way, with xkb and Compose. This is what I want. To change only GTK programs' behaviour, since it works perfectly fine for everything else. I don't really know why GTK has to be different from anything else in the world, defaulting ´+c to an accute 'c'. Winblows' US-International keymap does c-cedilla. xim's default input method for us_intl defaults to c-cedilla. (this is as far as my experience goes, but it seems like a standard to me) What is your locale? (Output of locale command). What is your keyboard? (Output of setxkbmap -print command). If the locale is pt_BR.UTF-8, and the keyboard is us (alt_intl), you would already have the desired behaviour (in all programs under X, not only GTK programs). So I suppose it is something else. It's en_GB.UTF-8 If your locale is en_US.UTF-8, you can get the behaviour that you want by putting a file called .XCompose in your home directory with the following contents: include /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose dead_acute C: Ç Ccedilla dead_acute c: ç ccedilla Then restart X. Don't really want to mess around with these files. I really don't understand why it should be so difficult to change the IM to default to Cedilla, since it is already there! If only it was possible to change it in all applications via context menu, it wouldn't be that annoying, but it is particularly difficult to type in portuguese in programs like iceweasel or icedove (which is my MUA, so imagine that)... If your locale is an iso8859-1 one, you must put \307 instead of Ç, and \347 instead of ç. Regards, Jan Thanks for your thoughts, but I'll look further ahead for a better solution, if there is one. I was also recommended to put 'LC_ALL=pt_BR' in /etc/environment. Are there any side effects to this? Thanks again. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGd9Zlq4Bz51JiUuERAh61AJ9MRHE21omXhJ61KgHmm7AqECVVtACfacHG 1VX/kenRMi5JLxF0q91JEF4= =U/II -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to change the default GTK input method?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, I have been working around this situation for a while, but it is sometimes very annoying. Here is the problem. I am brazilian, but hate brazilian ABNT2 keyboards, and have had a US one for many years. Since always, I have typed ´ + c (accute accent + c) to produce a c with a cedilla. There has been a point in GTK development, though, when the default character for this sequence has turned to a c with an accute accent. I have read some fervorous discussions of a brazilian user with a GTK dev about this, and the dev states that ´+c should logically output a c with an accute accent, and that producing a c-cedilla is not that obvious for this sequence. In my opinion, the guy does have a point. But it is still very annoying. In some GTK apps, I can get a context menu with an 'Input method' option, where I can choose 'Cedilla' and voilà! It works! But only for that app, and only until I close it. S, my question is: is there a way I can set my DEFAULT input method to this cedilla thing, and never have to worry about accenting a c again? Obs: I run two systems. One is pure lenny, and the other is lenny/sid (although I am trying to keep it lenny only). I do appreciate any insights on this matter. Cheers! Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGduadq4Bz51JiUuERAs2NAJ9g7Obk03mKwH80h7P6cV+IIf4MHwCghkOM RD9ZynvuPD/xawKv01G97tE= =X9lL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome default browser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Magnus Therning escreveu: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 02:12:42 -0700, liviu wrote: hello sorry for getting your time but i have a small problem i have debian 4.0 installed and using the iceweasel as default browser but when im using for example kopete or gaim and i use go to imbox or clik on a link always start the epiphany insted of iceweasel i do the sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser chose iceweasel the option number 2 and nothing the links ar still open in epiphany what should i do to really use iceweasel ty for help I suspect you'll have to modify that in System-Preferences- Preferred Applications. Set it to sensible browser if you want to use the Debian Alternatives to configure the default browser. /M Or you can use gconf and search for epiphany. Then, just switch from epiphany to x-www-browser. Works for me. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGcqzVq4Bz51JiUuERAgTYAKDWpAcuyp2K8ADuaS2ENVycUTAiSwCggURC dXphK1mNoJ7snqhs88T2KzI= =iuS1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I am ANGRY with Debian.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Max Hyre escreveu: Nic James Ferrier wrote: [T]earing useful stuff out of packages because of a political decision without providing an automatic upgrade is stupid. It *will* lose you users. Watch out for loaded words. The decision was indeed ``political'' in that it was put up to a vote, but `politics' has negative connotations that I don't think apply here. Each person voting, whether pro or con, was voting out of principle, not because they'd been bribed, or because they'd been forced to follow the party line. They were deciding what the party line was to be. This is politics at its best, and has no connection to the operations of the U.S. legislative or executive branches, which is what the word `political' is loaded with. Indeed, better coordination in the transition (notably pointing people toward the excised documents) would have been a major improvement. However, ``because of a political decision'' sounds like something derogatory. In what sense do you mean for people to understand that phrase? I'm sorry, mate. But not everyone in this list and/or using Debian is from the USNA (United States of North America, as I call it, since it is not the only federative republic in America -- read North, Central and South). 'Politics' and 'political decisions' may have negative connotations to you, but that's because you seem to link these words directly with your corrupt and anti-democratic governments (even though they insist in believing that they are the leaders of the /free world/). Well, that may seem weird to you, but there *are* real politicians and politics and *real democracy* -- or at least something closer to it -- in some places around the world, where these words do not necessarily mean something bad. To be honest, you don't even have to think about governments to think about politics. There is politics everywhere. In the company where you work, in any club or organization that you belong to, inside your own family and friends' circle, etc etc etc. There is nothing negative about political decisions (unless they *are* bad decisions -- and even that is relative). Especially when they were actually put to vote. Cheers Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGXxZuq4Bz51JiUuERAid/AKC+RN9muL4Pt2DLTdcyjDih9VsHWwCfcTGd VpZa34UYMAIIul50Yeh7zeI= =Oaej -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I don't understand the new aptitude
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan H escreveu: On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:16:44 +0200 Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) This isn't sadism, it's a feature of your terminal and aptitude. You probably can use the mouse to open menus etc, just like in a regular GUI application. Vim and mc can behave that way, too, and there are probably some people who like that behaviour. The way to switch it off probably depends on your terminal. Why anybody who likes point-and-click would use an xterm in the first place is beyond me. I'll have to find the place to turn it off. --D. To use aptitude, maybe! ;P Jokes aside, I find it a great thing that I can use gpm to mouse-select menus in aptitude. Why should I lose this ability in an xterm window? Cheers, Cassiano Leal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUxM6q4Bz51JiUuERAhy1AKDRJCsNSYRQRIL5tFEZOM0pj4THZgCfZ54l ZnN382uclLRI1V5Wgez6NhY= =lpqu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bookmarks across browsers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KS escreveu: Hans du Plooy wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 14:41 -0400, KS wrote: I was wondering how to keep my set of bookmarks available across all the www-browsers I have on my system. Not sure which browsers this will work for, but it's quite nice to keep FF on my notebook and work PC in sync: http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ Hans Thanks. Nice little extension they have there. I was looking for something which could give me a single place (on my system) to look for by every (or as many as possible) www-browser to get my bookmarks. Browsersync aims to give different computers (with Firefox) one resource for bookmarks and session info. Also for it to work you need to connect to Google everytime! /kds There's also Foxmarks for Firefox/Iceweasel. It's been of good use to me so far to keep my work/home/laptop computers' bookmarks in sync. C.L. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUzz1q4Bz51JiUuERApkkAKCVnsjA5S5lYaQQjaXlHuNqivVg7wCgwOkG KI32GQJacV7P75FJFEzr2c8= =P+R+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to hide the mouse pointer
This is what you need: http://times.debian.net/1097 Cheers, Cassiano Leal Tyler Smith wrote: Hi, I was wondering if it would be possible to configure the mouse pointer to disappear when not in use. I know I can just move it out of the way into a corner somewhere, not a big deal. But if it's possible to have the pointer just disappear after a few seconds of inactivity, and reappear the next time I move it, that would be handy. Not a real burning issue, I know. Is this possible, and if so how? Is this something that X can do, or is it controlled by the wm? Cheers, Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't mount pen drive
Marc Shapiro wrote: Wayne Topa wrote: Jude DaShiell([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: pen drives if I'm not mistaken need sg and sr-mod in your /etc/modules file. Those need the scsi drivers installed. Right you are. VT1 root-3-TESTING:~# lsmod |grep sg sg 31836 0 scsi_mod 124872 5 sg,st,sd_mod,sr_mod,usb_storage Both of which are installed. The drive mounts fine if I plug it directly into the cable. It is only when I use the USB hub that it does not mount. Then it probably means that your hub is not giving enough power to the usb stick to function. Cassiano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't mount pen drive
Marc Shapiro wrote: Wayne Topa wrote: Jude DaShiell([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: pen drives if I'm not mistaken need sg and sr-mod in your /etc/modules file. Those need the scsi drivers installed. Right you are. VT1 root-3-TESTING:~# lsmod |grep sg sg 31836 0 scsi_mod 124872 5 sg,st,sd_mod,sr_mod,usb_storage Both of which are installed. The drive mounts fine if I plug it directly into the cable. It is only when I use the USB hub that it does not mount. Then it probably means that your hub is not giving enough power for the usb stick to funtion properly. Cassiano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't mount pen drive
Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 08:43 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: [snippage] That was probably copied from the Sarge installation that used to be on this box. I thought that I had used the pen drive since I converted to Etch, but it is possible that I had not. If so, then where should I check to find the correct drive designation to use since dmesg does not give me that information? I don't even have ANY fstab entries for things like thumb drives or card-readers. Do you have these packages installed? hal udev dbus pmount cryptsetup hal-device-manager eject Its all I have and the system auto-magically auto-mounts them. Any deps should be auto-magically installed. And I am also running 2.6.18 on my daughter's machine and she has friends come in and reads their stuff without problems. So, mayeb you have all these... you might want to reinstall them with or at least extract the packages somewhere (safe) and look at the configs and maybe see any problem. It looks to me as if you're missing the module that will create the /dev/sda (or whatever) device. I had this same problem with a custom-build kernel where I had stripped down a SCSI thing and it wouldn't work. Recompiled the same kernel with this extra module and voilà: life was beautiful again. Since I am not at home right now and I'm stuck in windoze at work, can't help you any further. But that might give you some direction Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't mount pen drive
Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 14:26 -0300, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 08:43 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: [snippage] That was probably copied from the Sarge installation that used to be on this box. I thought that I had used the pen drive since I converted to Etch, but it is possible that I had not. If so, then where should I check to find the correct drive designation to use since dmesg does not give me that information? I don't even have ANY fstab entries for things like thumb drives or card-readers. Do you have these packages installed? hal udev dbus pmount cryptsetup hal-device-manager eject Its all I have and the system auto-magically auto-mounts them. Any deps should be auto-magically installed. And I am also running 2.6.18 on my daughter's machine and she has friends come in and reads their stuff without problems. So, mayeb you have all these... you might want to reinstall them with or at least extract the packages somewhere (safe) and look at the configs and maybe see any problem. It looks to me as if you're missing the module that will create the /dev/sda (or whatever) device. I had this same problem with a custom-build kernel where I had stripped down a SCSI thing and it wouldn't work. Recompiled the same kernel with this extra module and voilà: life was beautiful again. Since I am not at home right now and I'm stuck in windoze at work, can't help you any further. But that might give you some direction The modules are auto-loaded when you plug the damn thing in. It is what HAL and UDEV and DBUS and all the watching daemons are designed to DO. I basically installed those things I mentioned. It did just work after that. The system loads the usb-storage and mod_scsi stuff without fail. It shows up n the desktop without fail. It just plain works without fail. If you want to argue about this NOT being the fix or the cause, please just ignore my response then. No, I will most certainly not argue about this not being the fix for the cause. Especially since Marc stated that he's using a stock kernel, which should have all needed modules by default. If it works, yours is probably the most elegant solution, since it will save him from manually loading the modules, but he might as well be willing to do so. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dosemu
Ross Boylan wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 10:43:39PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: Is there anyone on this list who uses dosemu? I had it working on Sarge ever since Sarge came out, but I am having trouble getting it to work on Etch. Regards, Ken Heard I track testing and haven't had any troubles. My understanding is that an official release consists of a snaphsot of testing, which happened recently with etch. Of course, tracking testing is a different upgrade path than moving directly from one stable release to another. There may have been changes in, e.g., the details of the configuration files. Ross Just as a suggestion. If you can use DOS under X, you could try dosbox instead of dosemu. I have never had any problems with it, and didn't need to configure anything. Cheers Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]