Re: ncurses3.4
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote: You can get it from ftp.i-connect.com, in Incoming, and info, et al will run again. That's ftp.i-connect.net I believe. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hostid
On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: I'll have to look at the source to see what it actually does. I have yet to see a dupe. It's probably based off the MAC address, and therefore probably is unique. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SUMMARY: making 16bpp the default in X
The easiest thing to do is just to add this in your XF86Config in the section for your video card: DefaultColorDepth 16 I wish xf86config had this as an option. Here's an example: Section Screen Driver svga # Use Device Generic VGA for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device Generic VGA Device Chips Technologies CT65550 Monitor My Monitor DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the Generic VGA device Modes 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
file-rc in debian 1.3
Anyone have an idea what went wrong here? I'll probably just copy the file from my laptop (which is already 1.3 and has the file), but I'm just curious if this is a bug or not. What now [?,d,r,q,fd,fc,p] (defer): (Reading database ... 34666 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace file-rc 0.4.1 (using .../admin/file-rc_0.4.1.deb) ... sed: can't read /etc/runlevel.fallback: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing frozen/binary-i386/admin/file-rc_0.4.1.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: frozen/binary-i386/admin/file-rc_0.4.1.deb dpkg install failed. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: making 16bpp the default in X
On 1 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: Douglas L Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do I need to do to make 16 bpp the default in X? You can edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove all the other modes. Actually, this is what I tried originally and it doesn't work. If you are running xdm, you can edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and add -bpp 16 to the command line. If you are using startx or xinit, you can set up an alias. I don't run xdm because the X server (3.2A, 3.2 is just plain unusable) is really flaky with a CT65550 and it's like there's a random chance every time I start X that it's just going to hang and not let me out of it (a hard reboot is the only way). The alias sounds like it might be the only way to go in my current situation. Seems kind of lame though. :) -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
making 16bpp the default in X
What do I need to do to make 16 bpp the default in X? -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PCMCIA Ethernet/Modem cards..
On Thu, 29 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone out there has gotten any of the PCMCIA Ethernet/Modem cards working under Debian/Linux on a laptop? I'm looking at buying one.. but, of course I would like to buy a brand that I should be able to get to work under Debian. If anyone has any testimonial stories or any other pointers to where I can find out this information.. it would be great appreciated since those cards are a pretty penny! I have a Megahertz XJEM336 modem that's a 33.6 and a 10bT/10b2 ethernet card in one. The modem worked from day 1 just fine. The ethernet didn't work until I upgraded the PCMCIA drivers to 2.9.2. I'm not exactly sure why this was. I still haven't gotten 10b2 to work, but I haven't had a pressing need for it. I'm sure it's quite fixable. Another problem I've had is running ethernet and the modem at the same time. Occasionally I want to do this, but I've had some real problems. I start getting a lot of timeouts from the ethernet card when I do this and it basically stops working. One of my biggest complaints with the XJEM336 is the way the phone jack interface hangs out. It's extremely hard to use the modem side of the card with another card at the same time, if the other card has a cable sticking out of it and your PCMCIA slots are right on top of each other. Of course, this isn't linux specific. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the card. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
printing to a NeWSprint 2.5 spool from emacs
Hi, At work I print from my Linux box to a Sparc that has a Sparc Printer attached to it. The box runs NeWSprint 2.5. When I do do M-x print-buffer from emacs, it puts a date and time and a page number at the top of the page (which I don't mind that much, but I wouldn't mind knowing how to turn that off!). The annoying thing is I get a blank page between every page. Does anyone know what I can do to stop that? Just printing the file with lpr causes it to print without the blanks. Here's the printcap entry: lp|sparc1:\ :lp=:rm=hscw532:rp=lp:mx#0:\ :sd=/usr/spool/lpd/sparc1:\ :lf=/usr/spool/lpd/sparc1/log: -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bind output in /var/adm/debug
I'm seeing a lot of warnings in /var/adm/debug because NS and MX records are pointing to CNAME's. Is this not allowed? If it's not, could someone point me to a reference that says that it's not, so I can point it out to the ISP that's got things set up this way. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ftp.debian.org (ftp.cc.gatech.edu) should work now
I just exchanged some e-mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED] about the connection limit. The first thing he asked was which files I was trying to get ahold of. I felt kind of sheepish saying the Debian files, expecting *grumble* *grumble* another Linux user wasting our University's bandwidth but the guy was really cool and apparently the limit is gone or raised. Go yellow jackets! :-) -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PLEASE HELP! debian apache package wiped my /etc/httpd!
Argh. I have an old Redhat system (3.x) that I've been converting to a Debian 1.2 system. Everything's been going okay... until now. I just installed the apache package and it _WIPED_ my /etc/httpd directory calling it obselete, without prompting me to do so, and withing saving the contents anywhere. This is a _HUGE_ problem. This machine is a production web server! Unfortunatley, there are no backups. Does anyone have any ideas how I can possibly extract some of the configuration information from the currently running httpd's? I don't have the status or info modules compiled in. :( Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. I can't believe it just wiped my /etc/httpd directory like that. :( The package should really be modified so it won't do that. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
another apache package problem
The release of the Apache server you are using supports dynamically loaded modules providing its functionality. Please wait while the modules needed by your configuration are determined... Checking for available modules. done. Checking for needed modules... wait.../usr/sbin/apacheconfig: [: too many arguments done. Checking for unwanted modules... done. Anyone have any idea what's causing this? -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: New to Debian
On Sat, 10 May 1997, W.D.McKinney wrote: Anyone here just moved from Red Hat to Debian ? Just signed up on the is list. I've used RedHat 2.x, 3.x, and 4.0, and I'm running Debian now. What's your question? -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: FTP down?!?
On Sat, 10 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: What's going on at ftp.debian.org? You can't tell me they've had 100 anonymous users logged on for over 13 hours now. Do they put this up when mirrors are updated or something? I had the same problem last night. I managed to get in now and then, but it wasn't easy. :) -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Question: how to switch from an OLD Slackware system to GNU/Debian?
On 3 May 1997, Terrence M. Brannon wrote: The only good way of doing this is back up as much stuff as you think you absolutely need and a little bit more. Reformat the hard disks and reinstall debian from scratch. Slackware is not upgrade friendly, particularly the older version. I should have given a bit more information. Since the user disk space Especially since I'm in the middle of doing a successful upgrade on a slackware 2.x system to Debian right now, and I'm going to do a Redhat 3.0.3 system later. Phillip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] has also done this before with an in-place system, and has started on a HOWTO started on how to do it. Sometimes a complete reinstall isn't possible. After all, I'm in California and the machines I'm upgrading are in Mississippi. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
slackware,redhat-debian
I've got two machines, one slackware 3.0 (I think), and the other is redhat 3.0.3 that I want to move to debian. The problem is that they're too far away and I can't get in front of them in person, so wiping the box and installing from scratch really isn't an option. Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can put on dpkg and slowly install debian packages until I borg borg borg the machines? I assume dpkg is available in something like a .tar.gz that I can compile and put on the boxes, and from there I can just start installing package after package. Anyone have any hints/suggestions for this? I've kept up with Linux and the various distributions for some time, so I know most of the gotchas caused by libc and kernel upgrades already. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ftp.debian.org - cannot assign requested address
get frozen/binary-i386/Packages.gz frozen/binary-i386/Packages.gz 200 PORT command successful. 425 Can't build data connection: Cannot assign requested address. get contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 200 PORT command successful. 425 Can't build data connection: Cannot assign requested address. get non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 200 PORT command successful. 425 Can't build data connection: Cannot assign requested address. Does anyone else get this from ftp.debian.org? I get it off and on and have been for a few months now. I thought maybe it was just me or my setup, but I get it on both of my computers (on vastly differently networks, one is ppp and theother is ethernet). -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netscape won't use disk cache?!
Finally! Someone with the same problem I've been having. I just figured it was a problem I'd caused, rather than a problem with the package... No one has answered this one yet though. :-( On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, David Pfitzner wrote: The problem: netscape seems to be refusing to use disk cache. Some details: Debian 1.2 (based on Infomagic Dec'96, various upgrades) netscape_3.01-4.deb used as installer for: netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz It's configured (under options etc) to use disk cache; it creates the directory ~/.netscape/cache if necessary, and the file index.db; there _is_ free space on the disk ... But no other files ever appear in the cache directory, and pages are not cached between sessions. Things which didn't help: - (re)moving ~/.netscape (ie to reset user-config); - using different user (including root); - purging and re-installing netscape package. I started getting paranoid and wondering if I ever had netscape using disk cache, but backups from my previous Slackware install (and netscape 3.0) _do_ show cache files. So I tried the 3.0 netscape binary that I had used with Slackware (from netscape-v30-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz) and it still didn't use disk cache! Which suggests to me that there is something wrong with my setup which netscape doesn't like (and which was ok under Slackware), rather than, eg, a problem with the Debian netscape-installer. Any ideas? I'm using a modem, so it's rather annoying to wait to download files which should already be on my hard drive... -- David Pfitzner -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
problem with kernel sound configuration
When I get to configuring my sound card, and get to the SB base I/O field, the default is 220. Whatever I seem to type, it returns sorry, no help is available for this option. I've tried typing 220 and just hitting enter and both of them get me that response. Anyone have an idea before I dig into the shell script/program? I've got bash 2.0 installed. Is this the cause? --- Douglas L Stewart | Currently at Hughes in El Segundo, CA: Pencom Systems Administration | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (310) 364-8577 Wherever I go, there _we_ are. | Pager: (800) 759- PIN 801-9269 PSA Collective Intellect (TM) | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bi
On 14 Apr 1997, Kai Grossjohann wrote: Well, vi is not the only choice. If they're using X, why don't you tell them to use xedit? It's about as braindead as pico but can do search and replace, so it should be very easy to use. To take this silly editor thread a bit off-topic (and away from the flames)... xedit? You mean the old CMS editor? :-) Or did someone write an editor that runs under the X-Window system and call it xedit? -douglas
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v11)
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: Why does your page still have this comment: (There once was an official logo with a baby gnu on it (see above), but it has been dropped with the separation of Debian and the FSF.) We kissed and made up long ago. Below I've quoted this page: http://www.debian.org/cooperation.html Even if our relationship is such that it isn't appropriate to use a baby gnu, the statement is misleading. I don't see anything misleading about it. There doesn't require an animosity for a logo to change. For instance, I work in a division of a company that will at some point probably go public and thus become its own company. At that time we'll have to change our logo and name. -douglas
Re: dselect replacement project (deity)y
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, P.A.M. van Dam wrote: It would be really nice to have some highlever package order, like some commercial UNIX vendors have. For example one might have the choice to install everything as it suits himself or choose some highlevel packages like a KDE environment using Dutch locales or a OpenLook environent or just good old non-graphic install. It makes it much easier for newbies. We need some hierarchy in the package structures. I very much agree with this. Redhat has something like this. While I don't agree with their package choices for the various setups, the concept is sound. You would think this would be configured as the interface to dselect is redesigned. (which I'm very glad is happening!) -douglas
Re: Multiple ISP setup
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Chow Chi-Ming wrote: Just wonder what is a good ppp dial-up setup for multiple ISPs. I want to be able to choose which ISP to dial up easily (read: without having to edit /etc files manually each time I have to switch). Is there a tool for this? I don't believe there is currently. I guess it would be nice to have /etc/ppp.chatscript-providername and use pon providername to do it. Or something similar to that. -douglas
perplexing procmail problem
Anyone have any idea why mail to debian-user is bypassing my procmail filter? I'm using the following .poprc and .procmailrc. server mail.foobar.com \ proto pop3 \ user douglas\ pass sekret \ mda /usr/bin/procmail -f- \ fetchall PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin: MAILDIR = $HOME/mail DEFAULT = $MAILDIR/IN.mbox LOGFILE = $MAILDIR/from LOCKFILE= $MAILDIR/.lockfile :0 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN.debian-user -douglas
Re: IBM PS/2 computer
On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, System Account wrote: i have just recieved an old IBM PS/2 Model 80 computer (8580). I would like to install debian on it but when i boot with the rescue disk for the install it starts loading then uncompresses to this point: Don't these things have an MCA bus? And isn't the support for MCA something new in the 2.1 kernel? -douglas
Re: code-names
On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Vadim Vygonets wrote: The release after that will be Debian-2.0 . The major difference in 2.0 will be that it is based on GNU LIBC, known in Linux circles as libc 6. Two questions: 1. What's good about GNU libc? A million things. 1) Full internationalization. 2) The concept of an add-on. 3) Fully MT safe. 4) Better standard compliance. 5) Easier to support multiple architectures. 6) Easy to compile. (at least that's my experience) 7) Userland programs won't have to depend on moving target kernel headers. 8) It'll support more platforms thus more people will find bugs thus more bugs will be fixed. 9) Moves us towards having the /etc/nsswitch.conf, which IMHO is an extremely clean way to keep track of where your various services come from. ... etc 2. Whose libc is libc5? My understanding is it was based off a very, very old GNU libc and has been modified and added over the past few years. It probably includes code from lots of places. --- Douglas L Stewart | Currently at Hughes in El Segundo, CA: Pencom Systems Administration | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (310) 364-8577 Wherever I go, there _we_ are. | Pager: (800) 759- PIN 801-9269 PSA Collective Intellect (TM) | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo.conf--vga=ask doesn't; APM
On 4 Apr 1997, Carey Evans wrote: APM support can be in a 2.0.27 kernel if it's compiled in. Recompiling your kernel isn't too bad, if you make sure you have all the information about all your hardware and use make menuconfig or make xconfig. make-kpkg is supposed to make it easier too, although I haven't used it. If your current setup works, you don't need to know anything about your hardware. Just keep hitting enter when running make config until near the end when it comes to APM. Just turn it on and keep hitting enter, then make dep;make clean make modules make modules_install make zlilo reboot and you should be fine. You'll probably want to get the apm (apmd?) package. -douglas
Re: code-names
On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: Can we use glibc NOW along with the normal c lib? I have a program that will require the use of pthreads and it might be a good idea to use a thread safe C library, I can likely get by without, but.. libc 6 hasn't been officially released yet and it'll be a little while before any distribution includes it as a stable package. I'd suggest just getting a normal pthreads package and being careful that the functions you use are MT safe. When there is a stable libc 6 release your program will likely compile out of the box still. (at least the thread API will be the same) -douglas
Re: A Qt alternative for KDE?
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: Would anyone be interested in working on a GPL-ed clone of Qt? This would make KDE entirely free. I'd like to hear sentiment on this before I take any more steps. I think this is a good idea, but I don't see it gaining a whole lot of momentum anytime soon. The Qt license is somewhat restrictive, but not badly enough so where people are going to get gung ho about this. I would like to hear some thoughts on the complexity of cloning Qt. It seems like it would be a lot easier than say.. the Lesstif project. I've compiled some programs with Qt, but I have stayed away from the Qt source code in case there ever was a project like this that I would want to contribute to. Also, some thoughts on how much of a moving target Qt is would be nice to hear. :) I think I understand where Bruce is coming from on this. I'm extremely thrilled about the KDE project. Linux has needed something unifying like this for a long time. It does concern me that one company has a lot of control over what looks like it will become the de facto library for creating graphical interfaces under Linux. -douglas
Re: A Qt alternative for KDE?
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: Someone suggested that if we cloned Qt, we should do it using the Lesstif widget set rather than the one that Qt is presently using, and this might be an improvement on the present Qt. I've tested parts of KDE and it looks a lot better than any Motif product I've ever seen. (this from someone who has been a huge fan of the Motif interface for a long time) It's a lot better looking than say.. the CDE. There is GnuSTEP, too. If there wasn't, I think we'd have more interest in a really-free Qt. I expect a 1.0 release of GNUstep to take about the same amount of time to appear as the Hurd takes to reach 1.0. I really don't think people are looking for a whole new language and such. A consistent user interface is what they're really interesteed in. :) -douglas
improving pine speed when using remote smtp server
I have a pretty unreliable internet connection to the SMTP server I have pine configured to use (and to anywhere else on the internet, because I use uu.net). Anyway, ISP ranting aside, I get really frustrated when I'm zooming through my mail and I send a quick reply but I have to wait 5 minutes while pine connects to the remote SMTP server and sends the message. What I'd _like_ to do is to set up smail on my laptop where it'll forward the mail to the mailhost. This isn't really a problem, and there seems to be an option to do this when the smail package isn't configured. Where things get tricky is I'd like the ability to send the mail while I'm not dialed up, and have smail deliver to the forwarding host whenever it notices I'm connected. I'd like it to be able to do this without sending me bounced mail or warnings if I don't send it within a certain time frame (say 24 hours). Does anyone have an idea if this will work, or what I need to configure as far as smail to get it to work? I guess as a workaround I can have smail configured to forward mail to my SMTP server, and only send mail when I'm dialed up, and just postpone it within pine the rest of the time till I'm dialed up. -douglas
Re: RPM
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Yes.. but... * Windows users probably don't need dependencies. Programs doesn't usally depend on external libraries... Ever heard of a DLL? :) All windows programs depend on them, and manually keeping up with the correct version of a DLL is a nightmare. * Windows users like to move files... =) There's the concept of a shortcut in Win95 that hopefully cuts down on this nasty habit. * Would authors adopt dpkg? Perhaps a more realistic goal is to port dpkg to other popular UNIX variants, and `market' it as a piece of software independent of Debian. (I was told that there is a SGI port being made!). Well I don't think all free software has been written with marketability in mind. :) In the end, the best advice here (that's already being followed apparently) is to port it win95 and throw it out there for people to use. If it's superior to whatever other similiar technology out there exists and it's not called Betamax, the market share will take care of itself. -douglas
Re: RPM
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Yes, not many programs use DLLs... And how many Windows programs do you know that can share a DLL's that provides some funcionality? In Linux there are lots of things using libraries like libjpeg, libtiff, libvga, etc... I was under the impression that EVERY windows program used a set of basic DLL's. Now I'll admit, it's been almost a year since I did much serious windows programming, but I'm pretty sure that there are some basic DLL's used by every windows program. Also, there are basic DLL's you need for say... a program compiled with borland's compiler.
Re: Pentium GCC
On 30 Mar 1997, Siggy Brentrup wrote: I don't know to what extent it has been integrated, eventually using the -m586 flag in conjunction with -O? on gcc should optimize for pentiums. IMO there's no need for a special compiler version. Correct me if.I'm wrong. Apparently the gcc people are slow (on an order of years) in integrating the pentium patches. I think there is some serious resistance to the way the patches fit into gcc. (someone clue us in here, these are vague memories) Although, I shiver everytime I hear someone say (I've heard this MANY times) that the pentium patches are the best thing since sliced bread and I was lonely, unemployed and worthless before the pentium patches and now I have a gorgeous girlfriend, a great job and a lot of money. Oh, and by the way, it compiles everything on my system... except for the kernel. I'd love to a tech overview about the pentium patches though. :) -douglas