from:"Freddy Freeloader"


Steve Kemp wrote:

On Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 11:44:47 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote:

  
So, you're telling me that if someone uses ext3 they will get a default  
file system that's read/write, but if they choose any other available  
file system it will be read only by default even though xen-tools.conf  
doesn't list ro only as an option for mounting them?



  No, I was specifically refuting your suggestion that by default
 installations will fail.

  The expectation is :

a.  default filesystem ext3 - it will work.

b.  reiser filesystem - it will work.

  That it hasn't worked for you in this case is either a bug, or
 error.  I cannot tell which, though I'd like to lean towards a bug
 that has not yet been reported by any users.

Steve
  

OK.  Thanks for your help.  You want me to file a bug report on it?


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Re: xen domU read only filesystem


Steve Kemp wrote:

On Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 11:10:21 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote:

  
OK.  That was stupid of me not to look at /etc/fstab.  



  Ignoring the error message was an oversight, but not a stupid one.

  
But, why are  
xen-tools creating a read only domU file system by default in the first  
place? 



  The default xen-tools installation creates *ext3* filesystems by
 default.  Since your post mentioned reiserfs you were no longer
 using the default.

  There are options to handle the different filesystem mount
 options.  You can see those in /etc/xen-tools/xen-tools.conf:

   $ grep _options /etc/xen-tools/xen-tools.conf
  
So, you're telling me that if someone uses ext3 they will get a default 
file system that's read/write, but if they choose any other available 
file system it will be read only by default even though xen-tools.conf 
doesn't list ro only as an option for mounting them?  xen-tools.conf 
tells me if I use reiserfs xen will use reiserfs defaults to mount it.  
Since when is reiserfs a read only file system by default? 

I'm not meaning to pick at you, just understand what's going on.  I do 
appreciate your hard work in creating xen-tools.  It's just hard to wrap 
my head around everything about Xen in one go, and I'm someone who has 
to understand what's going on before I get comfortable with things. 

  
Why create an install that is, for all practical purposes, useless by  
default?  I just don't understand. 



  I don't believe the configuration is broken by default.
  

I don't know enough to even begin to suggest that it is.

  I also don't believe any that any "default" can be reasonable
 for all users when it comes to virtualization - if only because
 people have different ideas about networks, filesystems, and
 packages.

  (ObDisclaimer: I wrote xen-tools.)
  
I wondered about this when I saw the xen-tools author's name.   Thanks 
for your hard work.

Steve
  



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Re: xen domU read only filesystem


Steve Kemp wrote:

On Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:10:27 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote:

  
[7.149690] ReiserFS: xvda2: warning: bad value "remount-ro" for  
option "errors"



  There's your problem.  Remove "remount-ro" from /etc/fstab, after
 remounting it read/write via:

mount -o remount,rw /

  Or mounting it outside xen once you've stopped it running.

Steve
  


OK.  That was stupid of me not to look at /etc/fstab.  But, why are 
xen-tools creating a read only domU file system by default in the first 
place?  That's what really threw me because it was just so odd that is 
was being done by default that I just couldn't get past that.  I'm 
really green at virtualization so I thought I was missing some major 
piece of configuration.  

Why create an install that is, for all practical purposes, useless by 
default?  I just don't understand. 



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xen domU read only filesystem

I have another question on xen.  I cannot get xen to create a guest that 
has read/write access to its own file system.  I've been Googling this 
and reading documentation but so far haven't been able to find anything 
on this.  I have two different systems run xen now.  One is 32-bit, the 
other 64-bit.  They both exhibit the same behavior.


Once the domU system boots I have tried looking around at 
/var/log/syslog and it doesn't exist as the system can't write to its 
filesystem.  I can't use touch as root to create a file either.  Here's 
the error:


test:~# touch test
touch: cannot touch `test': Read-only file system


Here's typical output from the domU console while the guest is booting up:

[7.149690] ReiserFS: xvda2: warning: bad value "remount-ro" for 
option "errors"
[7.150981] ReiserFS: xvda2: warning: bad value "remount-ro" for 
option "errors"

mount: / not mounted already, or bad option
Setting the system clock.
Unable to set System Clock to: Wed Feb 4 16:55:16 UTC 2009 (warning).
Cleaning up ifupdown
Loading kernel modules...done.
Checking file systems...fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
done.
Setting kernel variables (/etc/sysctl.conf)...done.
Mounting local filesystems...done.
Activating swapfile swap...done.
rm: cannot remove `.X*-lock': Read-only file system
rm: cannot remove `/tmp/.clean': Read-only file system
bootclean: Failure deleting '/tmp/.clean'. failed!
rm: cannot remove `./motd': Read-only file system
bootclean: Failure cleaning /var/run. failed!
rm: cannot remove `/var/lock/.clean': Read-only file system
bootclean: Failure deleting '/var/lock/.clean'. failed!
Setting up networking
Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 
V3.1.1

Copyright 2004-2008 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/

can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases: Read-only file system
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:16:3e:96:02:9d
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:16:3e:96:02:9d
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.28
DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK from 192.168.1.28
rm: cannot remove `/etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new': Read-only file system
/sbin/dhclient-script: line 20: /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new: Read-only 
file system
/sbin/dhclient-script: line 37: /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new: Read-only 
file system
/sbin/dhclient-script: line 41: /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new: Read-only 
file system
chown: cannot access `/etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new': No such file or 
directory
chmod: cannot access `/etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new': No such file or 
directory

mv: cannot stat `/etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new': No such file or directory
can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases: Read-only file system
bound to 192.168.1.2 -- renewal in 1567 seconds.
if-up.d/mountnfs[eth0]: lock /var/run/network/mountnfs exist, not 
mounting failed!

done.
rm: cannot remove `.X*-lock': Read-only file system
rm: cannot remove `/tmp/.clean': Read-only file system
bootclean: Failure deleting '/tmp/.clean'. failed!
rm: cannot remove `./motd': Read-only file system
bootclean: Failure cleaning /var/run. failed!
rm: cannot remove `/var/lock/.clean': Read-only file system
bootclean: Failure deleting '/var/lock/.clean'. failed!
/etc/rcS.d/S55bootmisc.sh: line 29: /var/run/utmp: Read-only file system
rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/urandom/random-seed': Read-only file system
mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/.X11-unix': Read-only file system

Here's the output from xm list:

NameID   Mem VCPUs  State   
Time(s)
Domain-0 0  7603 2 r-   
3202.2
test.gawako.local   15   512 1 
-b  3.3



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Re: Xen problems in Lenny


Steve Kemp wrote:

On Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 09:57:17 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote:

  
I know this isn't strictly a Debian issue but this has really got me  
stumped.  I've installed the following Xen packages on a Lenny machine  
and cannot successfully create a working guest using xen-create-image.



  Exec Format Error suggests you're creating a 64-bit guest despite
 you being a 32-bit host.

  Add --arch=i386 to the creation call.

Steve
  
Thanks.  That worked. 



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Xen problems in Lenny

2009-02-03 Thread Freddy Freeloader

I know this isn't strictly a Debian issue but this has really got me 
stumped.  I've installed the following Xen packages on a Lenny machine 
and cannot successfully create a working guest using xen-create-image.



dpkg -l | grep xen
ii  libc6-xen2.7-18
GNU C Library: Shared libraries [Xen version
ii  libxenstore3.0   3.2.1-2   
Xenstore communications library for Xen
ii  linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-686 2.6.26-13 
Linux 2.6.26 image on i686, oldstyle Xen sup
ii  linux-modules-2.6.26-1-xen-686   2.6.26-13 
Linux 2.6.26 modules on i686
ii  xen-docs-3.2 3.2.1-2   
Documentation for Xen
ii  xen-hypervisor-3.2-1-i3863.2.1-2   
The Xen Hypervisor on i386
ii  xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-6862.6.26-13 
XEN system with Linux 2.6.26 image on i686
ii  xen-shell1.8-3 
Console based Xen administration utility
ii  xen-tools3.9-4 
Tools to manage Debian XEN virtual servers
ii  xen-utils-3.2-1  3.2.1-2   
XEN administrative tools
ii  xen-utils-common 3.2.0-2   
XEN administrative tools - common files
ii  xenstore-utils   3.2.1-2   
Xenstore utilities for Xen



Here is the log file produced when running xen-create-image.  The 
failures all seem to be related to the inability of the installation 
script to use chroot and I can't figure out why as I can use chroot on 
the host OS.   Is this a bug or am I missing something in the config files?



General Information

Hostname   :  test2.gawako.local
Distribution   :  lenny
Partitions :  swap256Mb (swap)
 /   10Gb  (reiserfs)
Image type :  sparse
Memory size:  512Mb
Kernel path:  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686
Initrd path:  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686

Networking Information
--
IP Address 1   : 192.168.1.43 [MAC: 00:16:3E:FE:30:04]
Netmask: 255.255.255.0
Broadcast  : 192.168.1.255
Gateway: 192.168.1.1

Creating partition image: /xen/domains/test2.gawako.local/swap.img
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes (0 B) copied, 1.6915e-05 s, 0.0 kB/s
Done

Creating swap on /xen/domains/test2.gawako.local/swap.img
Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 134213 kB
no label, UUID=61334cb4-df9f-4b7d-9526-7692bd143955
Done

Creating partition image: /xen/domains/test2.gawako.local/disk.img
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes (0 B) copied, 2.9659e-05 s, 0.0 kB/s
Done

Creating reiserfs filesystem on /xen/domains/test2.gawako.local/disk.img
mkfs.reiserfs 3.6.19 (2003 www.namesys.com)

A pair of credits:
Alexander Zarochentcev  (zam)  wrote the high low priority locking code, 
online
resizer for V3 and V4, online repacker for V4, block allocation code, 
and major
parts of  the flush code,  and maintains the transaction manager code.  
We give
him the stuff  that we know will be hard to debug,  or needs to be very 
cleanly

structured.

Hans Reiser was the project initiator,  source of all funding for the 
first 5.5

years. He is the architect and official maintainer.


Done
Installation method: debootstrap
Falling back to default debootstrap command

Copying files from host to image.
Copying files from /var/cache/apt/archives -> 
/tmp/wjDNA2ChFT/var/cache/apt/archives

Done
Done
I: Retrieving Release
I: Retrieving Packages
I: Validating Packages
I: Resolving dependencies of required packages...
I: Resolving dependencies of base packages...
I: Checking component main on http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian...
I: Validating adduser
I: Validating apt
I: Validating apt-utils
I: Validating aptitude
I: Validating base-files
I: Validating base-passwd
I: Validating bash
I: Validating bsdmainutils
I: Validating bsdutils
I: Validating coreutils
I: Validating cpio
I: Validating cron
I: Validating debconf
I: Validating debconf-i18n
I: Validating debian-archive-keyring
I: Validating debianutils
I: Validating dhcp3-client
I: Validating dhcp3-common
I: Validating diff
I: Validating dmidecode
I: Validating dpkg
I: Validating e2fslibs
I: Validating e2fsprogs
I: Validating ed
I: Validating findutils
I: Validating gcc-4.2-base
I: Validating gcc-4.3-base
I: Validating gnupg
I: Validating gpgv
I: Validating grep
I: Validating groff-base
I: Validating gzip
I: Validating hostname
I: Validating ifupdown
I: Validating info
I: Validating initscripts
I: Validating iproute
I: Validating iptables
I: Validating iputils-ping
I: Validating libacl1
I: Validating libattr1
I: Validating libblkid1
I: Validating libbz2-1.0
I: Validating libc6
I: Validating libcomerr2
I: Validating libconsole
I: Validating libcwidget3
I: Validating libdb4.6
I: Va

Re: 2.6.26-686 kernel problem in Lenny installer

2008-11-21 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Freddy Freeloader wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has run across this problem before.

I'm rebuilding a server based on an Asus M2N-LR AM2 motherboard with a 
2.8 ghz dual core Opteron.  At boot the boot process is hanging at 
"pci :00:00:0 Enabling HT MSI Mapping".
This same machine worked fine with both the 2.6.18 and the etchnhalf 
kernel.




BTW, this is with the RC1 installer.


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2.6.26-686 kernel problem in Lenny installer

2008-11-21 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has run across this problem before.

I'm rebuilding a server based on an Asus M2N-LR AM2 motherboard with a 
2.8 ghz dual core Opteron.  At boot the boot process is hanging at "pci 
:00:00:0 Enabling HT MSI Mapping". 


This same machine worked fine with both the 2.6.18 and the etchnhalf kernel.


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Re: change loading order of modules in apache

2008-11-12 Thread Freddy Freeloader


lee wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:51:50 -0800
Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

No.  I just created symlinks in mods-enabled to mods-available as
I've always done.  That has always worked without a snag before.



Maybe it has to do in which order files are found in the directories?

  


Well, I tried changing that too without any luck by using the LoadModule 
directive.  What's also very strange is that a2enmod tells me that no 
apache module in the system exists when I try to use it.  (I figured I 
had nothing to lose by trying it but all it does is write to 
mods-enabled to configure apache to load modules.)  I tried it on about 
a dozen modules and it told me none of them existed. 



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Re: change loading order of modules in apache

2008-11-12 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Jeff D wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Freddy Freeloader wrote:

  

I am experiencing something with Apache that hasn't been a problem on three
previous Etch builds.  We use Ajaxterm as a proxy to reach another server as
part of our web application.  On all previous builds Apache has loaded all
related proxy modules in the correct order by default.  In this latest
install--a fresh server build--Apache will not load the load the proxy module
first and I can find no documentation on how to change the load order in
Debian.
Can someone point me towards a link on how to do this?





Apache loads everything in the order its presented.  For modules listed in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ that would be in alphabetical order.

Though, I have never ran into an issue with modules loading in the
incorrect order, I'm wondering how you went about setting up the modules to
be loaded.  Did you use the a2enmod tool to load up the modules?

Jeff


  
No.  I just created symlinks in mods-enabled to mods-available as I've 
always done.  That has always worked without a snag before.


I've never run into this issue before either.  I'm beginning to wonder 
if this isn't a corrupted installation as I have other odd problems 
too.  sshd won't accept ssh tunnelled connections from remote navicat 8 
clients.  I'm getting channel errors from sshd in auth.log.  There was 
also a typo in the vsftpd.conf file that made vsftpd fail silently on 
startup. 

I've never run across any of these errors before in an Etch install. 



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change loading order of modules in apache

2008-11-12 Thread Freddy Freeloader

I am experiencing something with Apache that hasn't been a problem on 
three previous Etch builds.  We use Ajaxterm as a proxy to reach another 
server as part of our web application.  On all previous builds Apache 
has loaded all related proxy modules in the correct order by default.  
In this latest install--a fresh server build--Apache will not load the 
load the proxy module first and I can find no documentation on how to 
change the load order in Debian. 

Can someone point me towards a link on how to do this? 



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Re: Debian installer

2008-10-27 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Mark Allums wrote:

elijah rutschman wrote:

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Freddy Freeloader
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just out of curiosity, will the ability to create RAID10 arrays ever be
integrated into the installer?
Oh, and while I'm at it, how about raid1 arrays with more than 2 
drives?  I
did a Lenny install today and could not create a 1.2 terrabyte 
mirror with 4
640 gig drives.  I was limited to 2 640 gig arrays of two drives 
each at
best.  If I told the installer I wanted all 4 drives in a mirror it 
gave me

1 640 gig mirror and reported the array used all 4 drives.


Hello,
AFAIK, RAID1 doesn't do any striping, so no matter how many disks you
include in your array, you have a maximum usable device size equal to
the smallest disk in the array.  In your case, your maximum disk size
would be 640gigs.

It sounds like you want to do something like RAID5; you'd have some of
the benefits of striping and some of the benefits of mirroring.  I've
only ever setup a RAID1 array with Debian, and I don't remember what
options were presented during installation.  You might be able to
replicate RAID5 using LVM + RAID1 if RAID5 is not an explicit
installation option.  I have yet to experiment with LVM, so I don't
know what this would entail, but I'm sure other members of this list
could be more helpful in this area.

Regards,
Elijah




No, he wants to do a 10, or 1+0 RAID.  Mirror two pairs of drives, 
then stripe across the pairs.  This is a compromise when a RAID 5 
isn't quite  practical for some reason.  RAID 5 can be slow on a 
software setup when the partition is large and it fills up significantly.


Mark Allums


Hmmm  I just figured that it would be possible for mdadm to be smart 
enough to realize that if you gave it 4 drives in a mirror it would at 
least take two of them for each portion of the mirror without having to 
stripe them.   I just assumed that if Linux raid is smart enough to 
automatically integrate hot spares upon drive failure then it could 
figure out how to use 4 drives to create a larger mirror.  Guess that's 
what I get for assuming.


What I really wanted was to create a RAID10 array during the install and 
was playing around trying to see if I could work out another solution 
during the install even if it would be a little slower.  Anyway, I 
created the array after the install was finished.  I just wasn't aware 
of the 2 drive RAID1 limit in my experimentation.   Nothing I had read 
on Linux raid mentioned this limit. 

Yeah, the man page examples for RAID1 use only 2 drives, but normally 
examples in man pages are usually very simple and don't cover all 
possibilities.   Usually they're just there to give you an example of 
the syntax and switch usage.  


Anyone know if/when RAID10 capability will be included in the installer?


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Debian installer

2008-10-27 Thread Freddy Freeloader

Just out of curiosity, will the ability to create RAID10 arrays ever be 
integrated into the installer? 

Oh, and while I'm at it, how about raid1 arrays with more than 2 
drives?  I did a Lenny install today and could not create a 1.2 
terrabyte mirror with 4 640 gig drives.  I was limited to 2 640 gig 
arrays of two drives each at best.  If I told the installer I wanted all 
4 drives in a mirror it gave me 1 640 gig mirror and reported the array 
used all 4 drives.  



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Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own


Thomas Preud'homme wrote:

The Friday 18 July 2008 00:24:04 Andrew Sackville-West, you wrote :
  

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 02:30:42PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
  

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:36:43PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
  

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


[...]



I have two NICs.  The onboard Marvell and a 3Com 3c905b.  The
3Com   handles dhcp and dns requests.  Both are configured for
statically   configured IP addresses in /etc/network/interfaces.
However, the   Marvell will, after some unknown amount of
time--less than 12   hours--drop its static IP address and
request a dhcp address from the  3Com adapter.
  

[...]



probably a killall dhclient will sort it out.


[...]



[I] will  give that a try and see if the behavior changes.
  

[...]



perhaps some other package is starting dhclient? Basically, if you
have both interfaces using static ip, dhclient shouldn't even be
started. care to post /etc/network/interfaces?


[...]



For some reason dhclient WAS running, but I don't know why.
  

if it reappears, try a `ps aux`, maybe there will be a clue there as
to where it's coming from. And after a reboot, run

watch grep dhclient /var/log/syslog

or some equivalent and watch for it to show up.



You wouldn't happen to have any guesses on the second problem I listed
would you?  :)
  

nope, sorry.

A




You could also look with a pstree or recompile dhclient with a getppid at the 
beginning in order to see which process launch dhclient.
  


I'll try pstree.  I hadn't thought of that. 

These troubleshooting suggestions really don't help explain to me why 
dhclient would override the settings in /etc/network/interfaces for one 
NIC and not the other though.  And why would it override manual 
settings?  Isn't there some process watching the settings in 
/etc/network/interfaces to stop just such a thing from happening, or 
doesn't the driver and device itself record its state so that dhclient 
wouldn't even attempt this unless there is some type of user override, 
i.e. ifdown/ifup, /etc/init.d/networking restart, etc... ? 

There's something going on that I really don't understand here, and just 
troubleshooting it at the level shown here doesn't seem to me that it 
will answer my base questions.  Can anyone point me to documentation on 
how this works, because I must be missing something. 

Why wouldn't restarting networking not have killed dhclient after 
/etc/network/interfaces was read, the NIC's configured, and all NIC's 
were configured with a static IP address?  

Also, I still think there is a driver issue with this as eth1 sent out 
dhcp requests probably a dozen times (cycles of 6 dhcprequests), 
received no answers, and then was answered with multiple offers before 
it finally accepted one of those offers and bound to that address?  It 
seems to me if there were no driver issues involved eth1 would have 
gotten its dhcp address on the first attempt if this was all related to 
JUST dhclient. 

One of the problems with this module in the 2.6.24 kernel was the 
interface would come up, accept an IP address from 
/etc/network/interfaces, but it couldn't send or receive anything.  This 
seems to be an extension of that problem. 



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Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own


Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:36:43PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:


On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
  

Hi All,

I'm having a strange problem with a Marvell 88E8056 - 10/100/1000   
Controller on a Biostar TA 770 A2+ motherboard.  This is an Etch 
AMD64  install, but I have added the 2.6.25-amd64 kernel as I could 
not get the  Marvell controller to work at all with the 2.6.18 
kernel. 


...

  
  
I have two NICs.  The onboard Marvell and a 3Com 3c905b.  The 3Com   
handles dhcp and dns requests.  Both are configured for statically   
configured IP addresses in /etc/network/interfaces.  However, the   
Marvell will, after some unknown amount of time--less than 12   
hours--drop its static IP address and request a dhcp address from the 
 3Com adapter.



...
  
  
I'm assuming this is a bug in the sky2 module, but don't know enough  
about things in this area to do more than assume. 


I bet it's not a driver problem but simply that you have inadvertently
started a dhclient. It picks up a lease from somewhere, but then you
restart networking which reverts the interface to a static
address. Then when the dhclient thinks the lease has expired, it goes
and gets another one. 


I've seen this happen on my laptop when I've been monkeying around
with getting a connection at a new location. I'll forget that I
manually started dhclient and then some time later... maybe days, I'll
connect somewhere where I get static ip (like home) and then all of
the sudden the dhclient will wake up and go looking for a new
address... 

probably a killall dhclient will sort it out. 

  
I wondered about it, but it didn't make sense in that the networking  
system is completely ignoring its own configuration.  Plus, this  
behavior has survived several reboots of the system.   However, I will  
give that a try and see if the behavior changes. 



do you have network-mangler^Wmanager installed? 


perhaps some other package is starting dhclient? Basically, if you
have both interfaces using static ip, dhclient shouldn't even be
started. care to post /etc/network/interfaces? 



A
  
For some reason dhclient WAS running, but I don't know why.  Especially 
on that interface as it was not chosen as the default interface during 
install, and that's the only interface I've had configured to use dhcp 
at any time.  As I said, both interfaces specify "static" in 
/etc/network/interfaces.  It's working now as it's had long enough to 
repeat its behavior based on the time frame of how long things took to 
happen last time so I'm assuming it's fixed. 

And, if dhclient was getting a new IP address for that interface, why 
not for the other NIC too?  What makes the Marvell interface the 
interface that keeps getting reconfigured and the 3Com interface stay 
stable?  I've never seen this kind of thing happen before and I've 
switched interfaces between static and dhcp many times.   I've never had 
to manually kill dhclient before to keep it from reconfiguring a 
working, manually configured, interface.  To me that says there is 
possibly something wrong with the driver for the NIC itself and it's 
crashing and losing its state or something.  Nothing shows up in syslog 
or kern.log, but I still wonder about it. 

And, no, network-mangler isn't running or installed.  It's one of the 
first things I get rid of in a desktop install.  IIRC, n-m only comes 
with a gui, and I have no gui installed.  Plus, it doesn't show up using 
dpkg -l | grep network so I know it's not there  This is just a base 
install with the server packages I need to run for use in my lab.  
Nothing else. 

You wouldn't happen to have any guesses on the second problem I listed 
would you?  :)



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Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own


Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

Hi All,

I'm having a strange problem with a Marvell 88E8056 - 10/100/1000  
Controller on a Biostar TA 770 A2+ motherboard.  This is an Etch AMD64  
install, but I have added the 2.6.25-amd64 kernel as I could not get the  
Marvell controller to work at all with the 2.6.18 kernel. 



...

  
I have two NICs.  The onboard Marvell and a 3Com 3c905b.  The 3Com  
handles dhcp and dns requests.  Both are configured for statically  
configured IP addresses in /etc/network/interfaces.  However, the  
Marvell will, after some unknown amount of time--less than 12  
hours--drop its static IP address and request a dhcp address from the  
3Com adapter.



...
  
I'm assuming this is a bug in the sky2 module, but don't know enough  
about things in this area to do more than assume. 



I bet it's not a driver problem but simply that you have inadvertently
started a dhclient. It picks up a lease from somewhere, but then you
restart networking which reverts the interface to a static
address. Then when the dhclient thinks the lease has expired, it goes
and gets another one. 


I've seen this happen on my laptop when I've been monkeying around
with getting a connection at a new location. I'll forget that I
manually started dhclient and then some time later... maybe days, I'll
connect somewhere where I get static ip (like home) and then all of
the sudden the dhclient will wake up and go looking for a new
address... 

probably a killall dhclient will sort it out. 


A
  


I wondered about it, but it didn't make sense in that the networking 
system is completely ignoring its own configuration.  Plus, this 
behavior has survived several reboots of the system.   However, I will 
give that a try and see if the behavior changes. 



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Hi All,

I'm having a strange problem with a Marvell 88E8056 - 10/100/1000 
Controller on a Biostar TA 770 A2+ motherboard.  This is an Etch AMD64 
install, but I have added the 2.6.25-amd64 kernel as I could not get the 
Marvell controller to work at all with the 2.6.18 kernel.  Other than 
that this is pretty much a minimal install.  No gui, just a basic system 
running dns, dhcp3, mysql 5.0, postgresql 8.1and Apache2 in my test 
lab.  This system has no contact with the internet other than as a dns 
forwarder.


I have two NICs.  The onboard Marvell and a 3Com 3c905b.  The 3Com 
handles dhcp and dns requests.  Both are configured for statically 
configured IP addresses in /etc/network/interfaces.  However, the 
Marvell will, after some unknown amount of time--less than 12 
hours--drop its static IP address and request a dhcp address from the 
3Com adapter.  If I do an ifconfig -a it shows the dhcp address, and if 
I run nmap against the network--how I found this originally as there was 
an unknown IP address showing up and a known good one missing--the dhcp 
address shows up.  However, if I look at /etc/network/interfaces the 
Marvell interface is still set to static, and if I restart networking ( 
/etc/init.d/networking restart ) the Marvell NIC picks up its static IP 
address again.


Below is the output from lscpi -vv concerning the NIC in question.

03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown 
device 4364 (rev 13)

   Subsystem: Biostar Microtech Int'l Corp Unknown device 2700
   Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- 
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
   Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- 
SERR- 
   Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
   Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 1276
   Region 0: Memory at fddfc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
   Region 2: I/O ports at de00 [size=256]
   [virtual] Expansion ROM at fdc0 [disabled] [size=128K]
   Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 3
   Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA 
PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)

   Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=1 PME-
   Capabilities: [50] Vital Product Data
   Capabilities: [5c] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ 
Queue=0/0 Enable+

   Address: fee0300c  Data: 4191
   Capabilities: [e0] Express Legacy Endpoint IRQ 0
   Device: Supported: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, 
ExtTag-

   Device: Latency L0s unlimited, L1 unlimited
   Device: AtnBtn- AtnInd- PwrInd-
   Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
   Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
   Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
   Link: Supported Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Port 3
   Link: Latency L0s <256ns, L1 unlimited
   Link: ASPM Disabled RCB 128 bytes CommClk+ ExtSynch-
   Link: Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1
   Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting

Hmmm  It's been 45 minutes since I restarted networking and the 
Marvell has already dropped its static IP address and picked up a dhcp 
address.  Below is the relevant information from syslog after restarting 
networking. 


Jul 17 09:45:56 lab kernel: [81245.173294] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
Jul 17 09:46:01 lab kernel: [81249.915550] eth1: no IPv6 routers present
Jul 17 09:46:26 lab dhcpd: receive_packet failed on eth0: Network is down
Jul 17 09:46:26 lab kernel: [81275.403919] sky2 eth1: disabling interface
Jul 17 09:46:26 lab dhclient: receive_packet failed on eth1: Network is down
Jul 17 09:46:26 lab kernel: [81275.414464] eth0:  setting full-duplex.
Jul 17 09:46:26 lab kernel: [81275.449493] sky2 eth1: enabling interface
Jul 17 09:46:26 lab kernel: [81275.451945] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: 
link is not ready
Jul 17 09:46:29 lab kernel: [81278.425075] sky2 eth1: Link is up at 1000 
Mbps, full duplex, flow control both
Jul 17 09:46:29 lab kernel: [81278.427530] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): 
eth1: link becomes ready

Jul 17 09:46:36 lab kernel: [81285.424608] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
Jul 17 09:46:39 lab kernel: [81288.428601] eth1: no IPv6 routers present

Jul 17 09:55:19 lab dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 192.168.1.28 port 67
Jul 17 09:55:33 lab last message repeated 3 times

Jul 17 09:55:41 lab dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 192.168.1.28 port 67
Jul 17 09:56:18 lab last message repeated 3 times
Jul 17 09:57:38 lab last message repeated 4 times
Jul 17 09:58:39 lab last message repeated 4 times
Jul 17 09:59:29 lab last message repeated 3 times
Jul 17 10:00:28 lab last message repeated 4 times

This repeats a few more times and then:

Jul 17 10:04:39 lab dhcpd: Wrote 0 deleted host decls to leases file.
Jul 17 10:04:39 lab dhcpd: Wrote 0 new dynamic host decls to leases file.
Jul 17 10:04:39 lab dhcpd: Wrote 7 leases to lease

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

2008-07-15 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Paul Scott wrote:

I accidentally sent this first from an unsubscribed address.  Excuse me
if it shows up twice.

Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

Ron Johnson wrote:
On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
[snip]



If both IW3 & Epiphany are segfaulting, it seems that you have a
problem with gecko-1.9.


  


  

I don't know if it's libxul0d or xulrunner.  The iceweasel
maintainer thinks it's xulrunner after reading all the debugging
info I sent him.



Is this possibly the font problem I have with IW3, FF3, Konqueror and
IceApe but *not* with FF2 on this sid machine?  Fonts on several of web
pages I am creating are being rendered with fonts too large.  They are
fine on FF3 on my Mac laptop and other machines.

Paul Scott







  
I don't know, but I doubt it.  I've never seen Iceweasel 3 render a 
font.  It seg faults at startup so I've never opened a single web page 
with it.  It's completely useless to me. 



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Re: prob. w. wordpress + php5

2008-07-13 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Freddy Freeloader wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

Sid has dropped apache in favor of apache2.

Apache2 does not have php4 support, only php5.

But WordPress, in particular the Textile 2cb plugin, has a bug in it 
using php5 that makes enumerated lists come out wrong.


I have the version of sid with apache + php4 on a mirror.

I want to install my system from scratch using the most recent sid 
but stay with apache + php4 from my mirror.


How would I do that?

It's either that or change the plugin because it is no longer 
supported by its author.




Hugo.


The wordpress package in Sid will work with php5.  Here's the output 
from "apt-cache show wordpress":


Package: wordpress
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 5032
Maintainer: Andrea De Iacovo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 2.5.1-4
Depends: apache2 | httpd, virtual-mysql-client, libapache2-mod-php5 | 
php5 | php5-cgi | libapache2-mod-php4 | php4 | php4-cgi, php5-mysql | 
php4-mysql, libphp-phpmailer (>= 1.73-4), php5-gd | php4-gd, 
libjs-prototype, libjs-scriptaculous, tinymce (>= 3.0.7)

Suggests: virtual-mysql-server
Conflicts: mysql-server (<< 4.0.20-8)
Filename: pool/main/w/wordpress/wordpress_2.5.1-4_all.deb
Size: 1038376
MD5sum: 145d5509ea4b4067dded3ebd7736ffe9
SHA1: 08ce30c3d5e015ef7af2b5b2e02adee93659e322
SHA256: 43e390691e0725f1aacd6f3af6fe057d02c7d6afd776cb35f0253bcec8754ea7
Description: weblog manager
WordPress is a full featured web blogging tool:
   * Instant publishing (no rebuilding)
   * Comment pingback support with spam protection
   * Non-crufty URLs
   * Themable
   * Plugin support
.
This package includes French language support.
Homepage: http://wordpress.org
Tag: implemented-in::php, interface::web, web::blog


Looks to me like wordpress will run on php4 or php5.


Never mind.  Brain fart on my part. 




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Re: prob. w. wordpress + php5

2008-07-13 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

Sid has dropped apache in favor of apache2.

Apache2 does not have php4 support, only php5.

But WordPress, in particular the Textile 2cb plugin, has a bug in it 
using php5 that makes enumerated lists come out wrong.


I have the version of sid with apache + php4 on a mirror.

I want to install my system from scratch using the most recent sid but 
stay with apache + php4 from my mirror.


How would I do that?

It's either that or change the plugin because it is no longer 
supported by its author.




Hugo.


The wordpress package in Sid will work with php5.  Here's the output 
from "apt-cache show wordpress":


Package: wordpress
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 5032
Maintainer: Andrea De Iacovo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 2.5.1-4
Depends: apache2 | httpd, virtual-mysql-client, libapache2-mod-php5 | 
php5 | php5-cgi | libapache2-mod-php4 | php4 | php4-cgi, php5-mysql | 
php4-mysql, libphp-phpmailer (>= 1.73-4), php5-gd | php4-gd, 
libjs-prototype, libjs-scriptaculous, tinymce (>= 3.0.7)

Suggests: virtual-mysql-server
Conflicts: mysql-server (<< 4.0.20-8)
Filename: pool/main/w/wordpress/wordpress_2.5.1-4_all.deb
Size: 1038376
MD5sum: 145d5509ea4b4067dded3ebd7736ffe9
SHA1: 08ce30c3d5e015ef7af2b5b2e02adee93659e322
SHA256: 43e390691e0725f1aacd6f3af6fe057d02c7d6afd776cb35f0253bcec8754ea7
Description: weblog manager
WordPress is a full featured web blogging tool:
   * Instant publishing (no rebuilding)
   * Comment pingback support with spam protection
   * Non-crufty URLs
   * Themable
   * Plugin support
.
This package includes French language support.
Homepage: http://wordpress.org
Tag: implemented-in::php, interface::web, web::blog


Looks to me like wordpress will run on php4 or php5.


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Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

2008-07-12 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
[snip]
  

I've pretty much given up on Iceweasel 3.0 too.  It has seg faulted on
my main workstation ever since it entered Sid.  I have yet to get it to
open a single web page.  I've turned in bug reports, as have a few other
people with the same problem, but nothing has been fixed yet.
I just gave up and installed Firefox 3.0 from a tar package and Opera as
Epiphany has the same failing and I don't like Konqueror.



If both IW3 & Epiphany are segfaulting, it seems that you have a
problem with gecko-1.9.

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Jefferson LA  USA

"Kittens give Morbo gas.  In lighter news, the city of New New
York is doomed."
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I don't know if it's libxul0d or xulrunner.  The iceweasel maintainer 
thinks it's xulrunner after reading all the debugging info I sent him.  



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Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

2008-07-11 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 07/03/08 06:21, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  

Well, I struggled with iceweasel 3.0 from Sid for a week but have now
given up. First, printing no longer worked (see earlier posts). I got it
to work, sort of, by using inotifywait and printing the mozilla.ps file
but it wasn't a good solution. Then I found I could no longer listent to
the BBC: attempts to do so caused a crash. This makes it largely useless
so far as I am concerned.



While I have no doubt that you are having problems, neither of those
issues are happening to me.  My printer (blandly named "lp") shows
up in the Print dialog box, and have RealPlayer 10.0.9-0.1 installed
from debian-multimedia.org, so that's the format I choose when I
click on a BBC Radio station.

Here are the pages I tested:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/
http://www.asimovs.com/_issue_0806/ref.shtml


  

So I've installed the version from Testing and propose to stay with that
unless and until these bugs are fixed. I know there are said to be
security issues with older versions of the browser but I shall have to
hope for the best.



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Jefferson LA  USA

"Kittens give Morbo gas.  In lighter news, the city of New New
York is doomed."
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I've pretty much given up on Iceweasel 3.0 too.  It has seg faulted on 
my main workstation ever since it entered Sid.  I have yet to get it to 
open a single web page.  I've turned in bug reports, as have a few other 
people with the same problem, but nothing has been fixed yet. 

I just gave up and installed Firefox 3.0 from a tar package and Opera as 
Epiphany has the same failing and I don't like Konqueror. 



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webdav davfs2 and file editing

2008-06-16 Thread Freddy Freeloader

I am trying to get a working setup with webdav and davfs2 where I can 
edit files from a remote webserver locally.  I can successfully access 
the webdav directory and files and mount them on my workstation.  The 
problem I'm running into is that most of the time I open a file to edit 
it I get the following error message.


The file 
"/media/dav2/administrator/components/com_reviews/toolbar.reviews.html.php" 
could not be opened properly and has been truncated. This can occur if 
the file contains a NULL byte. Be aware that saving it can cause data loss.


This happens with about 60-70% of the php files on that website.  Is 
this something to do with how the files were created?  I can edit the 
ones I have problems with on the server if I ssh into it and use vi. 



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linux-patch-exec-shield

2008-04-15 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi all,

I was wanting to use the linux-patch-exec-shield on the 2.6.24-5 kernel 
but only see patches in sid up to 2.6.21.  Does anyone know if this 
patch has been integrated into the later kernels and that's why it's not 
available for them? 



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Re: Plone, zc.buildout, and Etch

2008-03-29 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Freddy Freeloader wrote:

Hi all,

Is anyone else out there using buildout to create Plone 3 installs on 
Etch?
I've been running into really strange errors when using buildout on 
Etch which no one in the Plone community is able to help me with.  I 
cannot even complete a default buildout on Etch using Debian Python 
packages.  I can however, do this on successfully on Sid.  I haven't 
tried Lenny.
If I use the ez_setup.py script on Etch to to download and install the 
Python setup tools package I can build a default Plone 3 install, 
however, I then run into problems adding third party tools such as 
Ploneboard, SimpleAttachment, and Clouseau.  As I need the third party 
tools for the functions they provide this isn't something I live with.


I can use the Plone Unified Installer, but would much prefer using 
buildout as it is so much more flexible.
This all seems to be tied to changes made in the Debian Python 
packages in Etch that have been made since January 30 of this year.  
Why that date?  Because I successfully used buildout on a server 
running Etch on that day.  I also added the above third party tools 
successfully.   Sometime since then something has changed in the 
Debian Python packages, or so it would appear anyway.



Update:

Well, if anyone out there is wanting to use the buildout method of 
installing Zope and Plone on Etch, at least for a while anyway, you're 
going to either have to compile Python, PIL, and any other Python 
dependencies from source code, or the the UnifiedInstallerBuildout 
packages that combine the Unified Installer, buildout, and Python 2.4.4 
in one package.  

The Python interpreter now in Etch will not work.  What exactly changed 
I don't know, but it's changed sometime after 1/28/2008.  

You can't just use the Unified Installer package either as it will 
install successfully but any time you install 3rd party packages it 
hoses the Plone site, sometimes so badly that even deleting the product 
directories and restarting the instance or the cluster doesn't help.  
You have to start over from scratch.




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Plone, zc.buildout, and Etch

2008-03-28 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi all,

Is anyone else out there using buildout to create Plone 3 installs on 
Etch? 

I've been running into really strange errors when using buildout on Etch 
which no one in the Plone community is able to help me with.  I cannot 
even complete a default buildout on Etch using Debian Python packages.  
I can however, do this on successfully on Sid.  I haven't tried Lenny. 

If I use the ez_setup.py script on Etch to to download and install the 
Python setup tools package I can build a default Plone 3 install, 
however, I then run into problems adding third party tools such as 
Ploneboard, SimpleAttachment, and Clouseau.  As I need the third party 
tools for the functions they provide this isn't something I live with.


I can use the Plone Unified Installer, but would much prefer using 
buildout as it is so much more flexible. 

This all seems to be tied to changes made in the Debian Python packages 
in Etch that have been made since January 30 of this year.  Why that 
date?  Because I successfully used buildout on a server running Etch on 
that day.  I also added the above third party tools successfully.   
Sometime since then something has changed in the Debian Python packages, 
or so it would appear anyway. 



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Re: problems booting

2008-03-24 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Andrew Reid wrote:

On Sunday 23 March 2008 01:57, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

I assume I'm running into problems with udev not naming
the devices consistently but am not quite sure of my diagnosis or how to
fix it if that is the problem.  



  I don't think udev rules will fix it, since the udev rules
are on the root filesystem that it's not finding.

  I recommend using volume management, so that the root
filesystem ends up on /dev/mapper/vg0-root or something
similar -- this all gets set up in the initramfs, and 
elegantly avoids device-naming issues.


  Alternatively, you can mount the filesystems by label
or by UUID. 


-- A.
  
Thanks, Andrew.  That got me started in the right direction.  I ended up 
not using LVM as I didn't want that extra layer of complexity creating 
another point of failure, but I did get it working.



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Re: problems booting

2008-03-23 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:57:30PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
I'm building a server based on an Asus M2N-LR mobo, a 3Ware 9550SXU RAID 
card, 8 gigs of ram and a dual core Opteron.  The hard drives are all 
sata Raptors with 4 of the 5 drives in a RAID 10 array.  I'm running Etch.


The problem I'm having is an intermittent one with booting.   I will 
quite regularly get a message that the root file system cannot be found, 
as well as files such sbin/init and /etc/fstab.  Here is the most 
specific error: mount: mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed.  
Just before those messages it says kinit is looking at sda5 for a resume 
image but cannot find it.  I'm then dumped into a shell after the boot 
process fails.



Use either LABEL or UUID.  This gets covered on this list at least every
couple of weeks.

Doug.


  
Well, that was a huge help.  You cut out the part of the message where I 
say I don't really understand the rules syntax and just give me 
variables.  It doesn't do a whole lot for me.  If I understood the 
syntax I'd have already written my own rules and wouldn't have asked for 
help here. 

And, btw, I have 81,000+ messages from this list on my machine going 
back more than a year.  If my reading of them had helped me understand 
this well enough to write my own rules I'd have done it. 

Guess I'll just look for help elsewhere. 



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problems booting

2008-03-22 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi All,

I'm building a server based on an Asus M2N-LR mobo, a 3Ware 9550SXU RAID 
card, 8 gigs of ram and a dual core Opteron.  The hard drives are all 
sata Raptors with 4 of the 5 drives in a RAID 10 array.  I'm running Etch.


The problem I'm having is an intermittent one with booting.   I will 
quite regularly get a message that the root file system cannot be found, 
as well as files such sbin/init and /etc/fstab.  Here is the most 
specific error: mount: mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed.  
Just before those messages it says kinit is looking at sda5 for a resume 
image but cannot find it.  I'm then dumped into a shell after the boot 
process fails.


This happens about 40% of the time on reboots and is not acceptable as 
this will be a remote server which will be physically located more than 
100 miles away.  I assume I'm running into problems with udev not naming 
the devices consistently but am not quite sure of my diagnosis or how to 
fix it if that is the problem.  I've been reading the man pages 
associated with udev but man pages are so terse I'm not sure if I 
understand how to write rules for it, and looking at rules in 
/etc/udev/rules.d  leaves me a little more confused as to exactly how to 
write a rule for this.


The drives are:

sda: a single sata drive partitioned into sda1 and sda5.  sda1 has the 
boot flag set.  sda5 is the swap partition.


sdb: RAID 10 array partitioned as sdb5, sdb6, sdb7, sdb8. 

Any help would be appreciated.  Any links to clearly written tutorials 
or anything like that would help.



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Re: No more AMD-K7 kernels?

2008-02-28 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Curt Howland wrote:

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I've looked through the debian-kernel and debian-user archives, and I 
don't find a discussion of this.


Does anyone know why the -k7 precompiled kernel was dropped? Two of my 
machines are Athalons.


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I can't tell you why the move away from K7 and K8 kernels was made, only 
that the amd64 kernel in the i386 release replaces both of them.  



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gnome-volume-manager

2008-02-28 Thread Freddy Freeloader

Is anyone else having problems with gnome-volume-manager?  I'm running 
Sid with apt-get upgrade last run yesterday. 

gvm is not running as a daemon and when I run "gnome-volume-manager" at 
a bash prompt either as a regular user or as root I get the error that 
the command is not found.  It is installed.  So is gnome-mount, and hald 
is running.  I'm a member of the plugdev and cdrom groups. 

It's really odd as I can burn cds and dvds with k3b, but then the drive 
won't read them.  It tells me that the checksum failed after checking 
the "verify" option k3b.  However, the drive will read the same disks 
and they work fine in another computer.   The other thing that's really 
odd is that the drive will recognize blank disks and display an icon for 
them on the desktop, but as soon as I write data to that cd it will no 
longer recognize it unless I manually mount either /dev/hdb or 
/media/cdrom0 as root. 

I have a machine that runs Etch and /usr/bin/gnome-volume-manager exists 
on it.  It doesn't exist on my machine that runs Sid. 

Anyone know what's going on with this? 



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Re: amd64 downloads not successful


Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:00:40PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote:

  

Can you give the exact link to the image you are trying to download?
  
  

Go here.  http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

Click on the netinstall link for the amd64 release for "stable". 
Or, go here.  http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/amd64/iso-cd/



r3? That was released 2 days ago. The images were probably not 
completely uploaded or something because now I downloaded 50 MB in 
Iceweasel without problems.


Regards,
Andrei
  
OK.  I just figured if the links from debian.org were pointing there 
that the files would be there.   Guess I just caught the system in 
transition. 



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Re: amd64 downloads not successful


Sergio Cuéllar Valdés wrote:

2008/2/19, Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

I don't know who exactly to report this to so I will ask here and maybe
someone can point me in the correct direction or maybe the right people
will read this.

I have been trying to download an AMD64 netinstall iso image this
morning and have not been able to.  The download is terminated at
anywhere from a few KB of data to 16 MB into the download and Iceweasel
then reports the download as complete.  The same thing happened when I
tried a full AMD64 install iso image (the 650 meg plus cd1 download)

I thought maybe the problem was at my end but I successfully downloaded
an i386 netinstall iso image so that seems to eliminate the problem
being at my end.




Hello,

hmmm, try with wget. If the download is terminated again, try it with
the option -c of wget. It will continue getting the partially
donwloaded file.

Best regards,
Sergio Cuellar


  
Hmmm, using wget it worked the second try.  The first time I connected 
to 204.152.191.7 and received a 404 error.  The second try I connected 
to 204.152.191.39 and it worked successfully.  Looks like there is a 
problem with the mirrors. 



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Re: amd64 downloads not successful


Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:04:53AM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
I don't know who exactly to report this to so I will ask here and maybe 
someone can point me in the correct direction or maybe the right people 
will read this.


I have been trying to download an AMD64 netinstall iso image this morning 
and have not been able to.  The download is terminated at anywhere from a 
few KB of data to 16 MB into the download and Iceweasel then reports the 
download as complete.  The same thing happened when I tried a full AMD64 
install iso image (the 650 meg plus cd1 download)



Can you give the exact link to the image you are trying to download?

Regards,
Andrei
  

Go here.  http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

Click on the netinstall link for the amd64 release for "stable". 


Or, go here.  http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/amd64/iso-cd/

Try the ...CD-1.iso link or the netinstall.iso link.  Both downloads are 
terminated without completing the download.


I can successfully download the debian-testing .iso from below.  
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ 



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amd64 downloads not successful

I don't know who exactly to report this to so I will ask here and maybe 
someone can point me in the correct direction or maybe the right people 
will read this.


I have been trying to download an AMD64 netinstall iso image this 
morning and have not been able to.  The download is terminated at 
anywhere from a few KB of data to 16 MB into the download and Iceweasel 
then reports the download as complete.  The same thing happened when I 
tried a full AMD64 install iso image (the 650 meg plus cd1 download)


I thought maybe the problem was at my end but I successfully downloaded 
an i386 netinstall iso image so that seems to eliminate the problem 
being at my end. 



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Re: modsecurity

2008-02-13 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Jeff D wrote:

Freddy Freeloader wrote:

Schiz0 wrote:
On Feb 13, 2008 2:13 PM, Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
 

Hi All,

Can anyone tell me why the modsecurity2_module is not in the Debian
repositories?  I understand that parts of it might not be GPL'ed, but
why can't it be carried in the non-free repositories if that's the
problem?  Debian carries things such as fully proprietary drivers in
non-free, so why the problem with modsecurity?

IMHO this is a very useful package.





If you're using etch, you can put this line in your 
/etc/apt/sources.list


deb http://etc.inittab.org/~agi/debian/libapache-mod-security2/ etch/

It actually has a link to that site on the official mod_security 
website.



  

Thanks.  I was unaware of that link.  I will make use of it.
Do you know why modsecurity isn't hosted directly?




here's a bug report on it:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352344


OK.  It's as I thought.  It's a problem with the licensing.  But, why 
can't it be moved to non-free rather than just being dropped 
altogether?  All kinds of proprietary software is in non-free, and the 
Apache license is at least open even though it's not the GPL.  I mean, I 
can "contaminate" the kernel right from the Debian repositories, so why 
am I not able to at least install open source software from there?  I 
don't understand this at all.



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Re: modsecurity

2008-02-13 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Schiz0 wrote:

On Feb 13, 2008 2:13 PM, Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hi All,

Can anyone tell me why the modsecurity2_module is not in the Debian
repositories?  I understand that parts of it might not be GPL'ed, but
why can't it be carried in the non-free repositories if that's the
problem?  Debian carries things such as fully proprietary drivers in
non-free, so why the problem with modsecurity?

IMHO this is a very useful package.





If you're using etch, you can put this line in your /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://etc.inittab.org/~agi/debian/libapache-mod-security2/ etch/

It actually has a link to that site on the official mod_security website.


  
Thanks.  I was unaware of that link.  I will make use of it. 


Do you know why modsecurity isn't hosted directly?


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modsecurity

2008-02-13 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi All,

Can anyone tell me why the modsecurity2_module is not in the Debian 
repositories?  I understand that parts of it might not be GPL'ed, but 
why can't it be carried in the non-free repositories if that's the 
problem?  Debian carries things such as fully proprietary drivers in 
non-free, so why the problem with modsecurity? 

IMHO this is a very useful package. 



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evolution not getting access to password

2007-12-21 Thread Freddy Freeloader

About two weeks ago, well, that's "a" guess as to how long ago it was as 
I've been pretty busy, I started having to enter my admin password every 
time Evolution checks for mail.  Not the password for the email server 
but the same admin password that's asked for if you're starting up a 
program that requires root privileges.  I've looked for settings to 
change this behavior but can't find any.  It's not really a big thing, 
but it is getting annoying. 

Anyone else run into this and have some idea as to how to change this 
behavior?


I am running an up-to-date Sid install. 



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Re: CGI Scripts, Apache 2.2.3, and Debian 4.0 R1

2007-12-17 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Jon D. Irish wrote:

Hi Freddy,
I was finally able to get it working, but I'm not exactly sure what I did to 
fix it. I think that it might have been enabling the cgid module. Does this 
make sense. Otherwise, I set most of the setting back to default, restarted 
Apache, and the scripts starting working.

Jon

- Original Message 
From: Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:22:09 PM
Subject: Re: CGI Scripts, Apache 2.2.3, and Debian 4.0 R1

Jon D. Irish wrote:
  

I have a clean install of Debian 4.0 R1 with Apache 2.2.3-4 installed. I can 
not get cgi scripts to execute from the website. I have researched the Apache 
site and tried both of the following:
 
1) Under apache2.conf, I added

   
 Options +ExecCGI
 AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl

 
2) Under httpd.conf, I added

#
# ScriptAlias: This controls which directories contain server scripts.
# ScriptAliases are essentially the same as Aliases, except that
# documents in the realname directory are treated as applications and
# run by the server when requested rather than as documents sent to the client.
# The same rules about trailing "/" apply to ScriptAlias directives as to
# Alias.
#
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/var/www/cgi-bin/"
#
# "/var/www/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased
# CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.
#

   AllowOverride None
   Options Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks
   Order deny,allow
   Deny from all
   Allow from 192.168.1

 
Neither of these has allowed my cgi scripts to run. Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
 
Sincerely,

Jon


 

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This may be a stupid question, but did you enable the cgi module by 
creating a symbolic link from /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to 
/etc/apache2/mods-available and install the appropriate php4/php5-cgi 
package or the libapache-mod-fastcgi depending on your usage?  Without 
doing those two things pache won't/can't load the cgi module. 

There are also some libcgi packages for perl and a couple of other 
languages too, but I'm not familiar with them as I've never had occasion 
to use them. 



  
Not knowing what all you did, or exactly what type of scripts you're 
using, it's impossible to tell.  I just know if you don't enable the 
correct modules for what you're doing no matter what's in your 
httpd.conf or your virtual server settings it just won't work.  The 
correct combination of enabled modules and configuration settings is 
what works. 

You can tell which modules have been loaded, both dynamically and 
statically, by running, as root, "apache2 -D DUMP_MODULES". 



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Re: CGI Scripts, Apache 2.2.3, and Debian 4.0 R1

2007-12-16 Thread Freddy Freeloader

Jon D. Irish wrote:

I have a clean install of Debian 4.0 R1 with Apache 2.2.3-4 installed. I can
not get cgi scripts to execute from the website. I have researched the Apache
site and tried both of the following:

1) Under apache2.conf, I added

Options +ExecCGI
AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl

2) Under httpd.conf, I added

#
# ScriptAlias: This controls which directories contain server scripts.
# ScriptAliases are essentially the same as Aliases, except that
# documents in the realname directory are treated as applications and
# run by the server when requested rather than as documents sent to the client.
# The same rules about trailing "/" apply to ScriptAlias directives as to
# Alias.
#
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/var/www/cgi-bin/"
#
# "/var/www/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased
# CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.
#

AllowOverride None
Options Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks
Order deny,allow
Deny from all
Allow from 192.168.1

Neither of these has allowed my cgi scripts to run. Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?

Sincerely,

Jon

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This may be a stupid question, but did you enable the cgi module by
creating a symbolic link from /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to
/etc/apache2/mods-available and install the appropriate php4/php5-cgi
package or the libapache-mod-fastcgi depending on your usage? Without
doing those two things pache won't/can't load the cgi module.

There are also some libcgi packages for perl and a couple of other
languages too, but I'm not familiar with them as I've never had occasion
to use them.

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blacklist packages in apt

2007-11-05 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi All,

I'm unsure if "blacklist" is even the correct terminology for what I 
want to do, but at least it's a starting point.


I administer servers for a small company.  If it was up to me I wouldn't 
even have a gui on them, but the boss and developers come from the 
Windows world and require a gui.  So, I'm stuck with it.


What I would like to permanently get rid of are network-manager and 
avahi-daemon.  Is there a way of marking these packages with either apt 
or dpkg so that they will not be reinstalled, ever?   I've had problems 
with these two packages being auto-reinstalled when doing apt-get 
upgrades, and I just don't want to have mess with it anymore.   I know 
it is at least theoretically possible with apt-pinning by setting the 
priority very low, but I've been looking at the man pages for apt-get 
and dpkg and can see no way there of doing this without apt-pinning.  Is 
there another way and I've just missed it? 

I would just as soon not use apt-pinning if I don't have to, but if 
that's what I must do, I'll use it. 



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all video players dropping frames when playing dvd's


Hi all,

I hadn't played a movie on any of my computers for 2 or 3 months, and 
tried to play one today as I had enough time to watch one.  What I found 
is that movies that used to play very well on my laptop and my 
workstations will not play at all anymore.  They drop frames so badly 
that the players, vlc, totem, and mplayer, all crash.  The audio plays 
at varying speeds and drops frames/skips too. 

The other thing I found was that dvd's that I had copied to disk no 
longer play.  Totem used to read .iso files and play them just as if it 
was reading off a dvd disk.  Now Totem says it is missing a plugin and 
can't read them.  VLC and Mplayer used to read those same .iso files and 
play back the movies very smoothly.  Now they crash trying to play them. 

I used to play movies with 2-3% cpu usage at full screen, and the 
picture was crystal clear and the sound great.   Now cpu usage is at 
30-40%, and as I said, nothing plays worth a damn. 

What has happened to the ability to play movies in the last couple of 
months?  If it was only one of my computers I'd be thinking it had a 
problem, but it's not.  It's all of my computers.  I haven't done 
anything to them other than just keep on updating them as I run Sid on 
all them. 

Is anyone else experiencing this same thing?  It looks to me as if 
something has undergone a major change, but what? 



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Re: Joomla


Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:

Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

Well, that is one reason I guess.  Do you happen to know why security
updates to Joomla would take any longer than security updates to any
other Debian package in stable?  I'm just curious as Debian has Zope,
Plone, Drupal, several wiki's, egroupware, and phpgroupware packages in
stable.  What is so different about Joomla?
I don't know anything about it other than I from what I read on their
website today, but it seems to me that most GPL'ed software is in Debian
so my curiosity has been piqued.  Joomla and webmin are two rather stark
exceptions to the inclusiveness that I find in the Debian repositories,
and I have read the reasoning behind why Debian dropped webmin.



Well, drupal in stable is old, normally you want the newest and stable,
you can find in etch the stable but not the new. That's maybe, and maybe
there've not been anyone taking care good enough of the package.

Regards,
Jose Luis.
  
Thanks for your reply.  I was just really curious as to why there aren't 
any Joomla packages. 



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Re: Joomla


Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:

Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

Does anyone here have any insight why Joomla has never made it as a
Debian package?  I was looking at the Joomla site and did some research
on the relationship between Debian and Joomla.  I see that someone in
late 2006 was packaging Joomla for Sid, but it doesn't appear in the
Debian-maintained repositories anymore.   Anyone know why this was
discontinued?  Are there political reasons it was dropped, or is it just
lack of enough interest to make the project viable?





Well, I guess one of the main reasons is that stable is the suite used
by servers and the updates take a long time to get to stable at least
that this updates are security ones.

And at least me does prefer to install my owns CMS's...

Regards,
Jose Luis.
  
Well, that is one reason I guess.  Do you happen to know why security 
updates to Joomla would take any longer than security updates to any 
other Debian package in stable?  I'm just curious as Debian has Zope, 
Plone, Drupal, several wiki's, egroupware, and phpgroupware packages in 
stable.  What is so different about Joomla? 

I don't know anything about it other than I from what I read on their 
website today, but it seems to me that most GPL'ed software is in Debian 
so my curiosity has been piqued.  Joomla and webmin are two rather stark 
exceptions to the inclusiveness that I find in the Debian repositories, 
and I have read the reasoning behind why Debian dropped webmin. 



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Joomla

Does anyone here have any insight why Joomla has never made it as a 
Debian package?  I was looking at the Joomla site and did some research 
on the relationship between Debian and Joomla.  I see that someone in 
late 2006 was packaging Joomla for Sid, but it doesn't appear in the 
Debian-maintained repositories anymore.   Anyone know why this was 
discontinued?  Are there political reasons it was dropped, or is it just 
lack of enough interest to make the project viable?



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Plone3 with Zope3

2007-09-17 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi all,

Does anyone when, and if, Plone3 will be available to install with Zope3? 



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Re: Zwiki

2007-09-15 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Freddy Freeloader wrote:

Hi all,

I have installed Zope/Plone and have a Plone site up and running.  I 
want to add a zwiki site to it and have installed the zope-zwiki 
package.  The problem is that it never shows up under Products in the 
ZMI.
Is there something else I have to configure to get it to show up?  The 
rest of the products I have installed have shown up there and I have 
been able to then import them into Plone.  Not with zwiki though.  
I've Googled this to death, and looked on the zwiki wiki, but haven't 
found anything there either.

Any help you can give would be appreciated.

Well, never mind I finally found out how to do this.  It was stuck in a 
comment under an article in the zwiki site.



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Zwiki

2007-09-15 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi all,

I have installed Zope/Plone and have a Plone site up and running.  I 
want to add a zwiki site to it and have installed the zope-zwiki 
package.  The problem is that it never shows up under Products in the ZMI. 

Is there something else I have to configure to get it to show up?  The 
rest of the products I have installed have shown up there and I have 
been able to then import them into Plone.  Not with zwiki though.  I've 
Googled this to death, and looked on the zwiki wiki, but haven't found 
anything there either. 

Any help you can give would be appreciated. 



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Re: How to pipe from python script to system process that script starts


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:48:48AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
 
  
Now on to the next step, to figure out a way to poll for stdin, pass 
that to exim, and process the message(thaw or remove it) based on what I 
read in the header.

 


Before we get too far down the garden path with this, what is the big
issue?  I'm on dialup.  I've never had to deal with removing messages
from the queue since I have exim run with -qqff which automatically
thaws the list every time it runs.  After enough retries, exim returns
the message to sender.  Then again, I'm going to a smarthost.

Under what circumstances would you need to manually remove a message
from the queue?

As for polling stdin, why?  What will it get from stdin?

Doug.


  


Mainly the issue is learning to use python. 

What I want the script to read from stdin in will be my choice to either 
thaw the message or remove it from the queue.  And, yes, I know Exim 
will delete anything in the queue after so many tries to deliver it.   
This is more a learning project than anything else at this point.  I'm a 
newbie exim admin and a newbie to python, and I'm just wanting to make 
sure all frozen messages have nothing to do my acl's, and learn 
something about python at the same time. 

So, if you don't like my dinky little Python project all I can say is, 
stop replying.  It's my time, and my energy being put into it.  If you 
don't want to help any further, don't.  I'll get my answers elsewhere, 
and there will be no hard feelings on my part



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Re: How to pipe from python script to system process that script starts


Kumar Appaiah wrote:

On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:05:16AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
So far I've coded everything as process oriented rather than object 
oriented as that is what I am familiar with, but I'm beginning to believe 
that using classes is probably the way to go as it would be much easier to 
abstract concepts out that way.  If someone has an example or two they 
could share with me on how to do interprocess piping in either oo or 
process oriented, or both, manner I would appreciate the help.



Read the documentation for os.popen. It opens the command and it's
stdin and stdout as pipes.

The commands module might also be of interest.

Kumar

  

Thanks.
I got os.popen4 to sort of work, I think,  as it will capture stdout 
from the child process, but haven't figured out, yet, how to capture 
that and print it to the screen so I can read the headers. 



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Re: How to pipe from python script to system process that script starts


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:05:16AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
I'm wanting to learn python so I'm starting with projects that I want to 
automate at work.  What I want to do in this specific instance is use a 
python script to call exipick to find all frozen messages in the Exim 
queue, then feed the message id's to something such as "exim -Mvh" so I 
can look at the message headers. 

So far I've been able to get everything working except for how to get my 
python script to be able to pass the message id's to the exim command as 
the needed single parameter.  I'm assuming that a pipe is the logical 
way to do this, but just haven't found any kind of example for what I am 
wanting to do.  My Python reference book is just a little too cryptic 
for me yet and "Learning Python" barely touches on piping.  All the 
examples there are on how to pipe from stdin with sys.stdin and that 
won't work for this task.





Since exim -Mvh, as you say, only takes a single message id, you'll be
starting a new process for each message.  What you didn't say was where
you want the output to go.  If you just want to run the command and use
exim's way of displaying the info as if you had typed the command from
the shell, then you would use os.system().  If you want to get its
output back into python you would use one of the os.popen() functions,
depending on what pipes you want.  Probably just os.popen() with its
mode defaulting to 'r'.

Now you just have to make up the command line which is simple string
processing.  Probably define EXIMCMD as '/usr/bin/exim4 ' somewhere near
the top of the script as a pseudo constant.  Then you would make up the
command line with something like (NOTE: haven't tried this, just going
from memory and cursory look at my Python bible):

exim_cmd_line = EXIMCMD + '-Mvh ' + message_id
message_header = os.popen(exim_cmd_line)

You now have a file-like object message_header that you can use in the
script.

I hope this gets you on the right track.

Doug.


  
Ah, thank you.  That put me on the right track.  I did it a little 
differently, but you got me thinking in the right direction.   I used 
os.system() as I need the output printed to screen so I can read email 
headers. 

Now on to the next step, to figure out a way to poll for stdin, pass 
that to exim, and process the message(thaw or remove it) based on what I 
read in the header.




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Re: mail (un)delivery

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 02:49:56PM +0100, michael wrote:

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 09:27 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 02:12:42PM +0100, michael wrote:

I'm feeling a bit dense today so any help welcome!

Essentially, I've just noticed that local mail hasn't been delivered for
a couple of weeks. I can email off my box but not to my username on the
box. I can't see what the problem is. They are probably both a red
herring [1] but (a) I did have some DNS problems just prior to the last
received email and (b) switched off the box and physically moved it to a
new location (and the new IP number) just after the last received email.

I'm unsure how to go about debugging this so all pointers welcome!

Assuming that you're using exim4, check you
/etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf file for the wrong IP addresses.  If
you find any, follow the instructions at the top of the file.

>From what I can tell it seems fine:

agreed

 > 

Assuming that you have written yourself an email on the same box, what
error messages do you get?  What does mailq say?  Are you having exim do
a reverse DNS lookup for every mail?

Yes, the box is ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk and if I email myself (mail
localusername) I get no error msgs. 

mailq gives me a permission error unless I use 'sudo mailq
localusername' which then gives me 
  michael-H

*** spool read error: No such file or directory ***

(not sure what that means...)

What it means is that you used mailq wrong.  You don't need any
parameters but if you provide any, they are a list of message IDs.
Since no message ID will be your localusername it will fail.  Try mailq
all by itself.

I said 'no' to keeping num of DNS lookups minimal. 

NB: nslookup on the machine gives multiple entries:
$ nslookup ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk
Server: 130.88.13.7
Address:130.88.13.7#53

Name:   ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk
Address: 130.88.15.179
Name:   ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk
Address: 130.88.128.163

I don't have nslookup installed but it seems wierd to me that one
hostname would have more than one IP address.

See what mailq say and see what are in exim's logs.

Doug.

If you traceroute ratty.ph.umist.ac.uk it will go to one ip address and 
then the other the next time you traceroute the url, so I'm assuming 
this is some form of load balancing using dns.

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How to pipe from python script to system process that script starts


Hi all,

This will be sort of involved

I'm wanting to learn python so I'm starting with projects that I want to 
automate at work.  What I want to do in this specific instance is use a 
python script to call exipick to find all frozen messages in the Exim 
queue, then feed the message id's to something such as "exim -Mvh" so I 
can look at the message headers. 

So far I've been able to get everything working except for how to get my 
python script to be able to pass the message id's to the exim command as 
the needed single parameter.  I'm assuming that a pipe is the logical 
way to do this, but just haven't found any kind of example for what I am 
wanting to do.  My Python reference book is just a little too cryptic 
for me yet and "Learning Python" barely touches on piping.  All the 
examples there are on how to pipe from stdin with sys.stdin and that 
won't work for this task.


So far I've coded everything as process oriented rather than object 
oriented as that is what I am familiar with, but I'm beginning to 
believe that using classes is probably the way to go as it would be much 
easier to abstract concepts out that way.  If someone has an example or 
two they could share with me on how to do interprocess piping in either 
oo or process oriented, or both, manner I would appreciate the help.


And, yes, I know, I could have done this very simply with a bash script, 
but that is not the point.  I'm doing this as much to learn python as I 
am to accomplish the task.  So, please, no tips on how to do this in a 
bash script.  I already know how to do that.  I'm just very much a 
Python noob at the moment



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Re: replacement for formmail

2007-08-28 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Rick Pasotto wrote:

On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:36:12AM +, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
  

On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 02:58:00PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
  

On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:51:00PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
 


Anyone have any good recommendations for replacing formmail?

I just started working for someone who is using it and we are trying to 
lock his sites down more than they have been in the past and are looking 
for a replacement.
  

What is formmail?


A buggy, insecure perl script used for sending mail from a website.  
It's been around for a long time and a lot of people use it, but we 
would like to move away from it.  You can still see one replacement for 
it using apt-cache  if your sources.list file is pointed to sarge.  You 
can find it by searching packages at debian.org and choosing "any" for 
the release.
  

I've never done CGI stuff.  Why not just rewrite it so that its not
buggy?  Use your language-of-choice.  I would use Python but of course
it would require that I could read Perl, which I can't.  



There is a php version that is much better than the perl version.

http://www.dtheatre.com/scripts/formmail.php

  



Thank you.  That is just what I was looking for.



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Re: replacement for formmail

2007-08-28 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:51:00PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

Anyone have any good recommendations for replacing formmail?

I just started working for someone who is using it and we are trying to 
lock his sites down more than they have been in the past and are looking 
for a replacement.



What is formmail?

Doug.


  


A buggy, insecure perl script used for sending mail from a website.  
It's been around for a long time and a lot of people use it, but we 
would like to move away from it.  You can still see one replacement for 
it using apt-cache  if your sources.list file is pointed to sarge.  You 
can find it by searching packages at debian.org and choosing "any" for 
the release.



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replacement for formmail

2007-08-28 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Anyone have any good recommendations for replacing formmail?

I just started working for someone who is using it and we are trying to 
lock his sites down more than they have been in the past and are looking 
for a replacement.



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Re: phpmyadmin

2007-08-22 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Jeff D wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, ArcticFox wrote:



On Aug 20, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


Sorry to be so long getting back to you, but I had already tried 
this and you're not going to believe the results
There is a phpinfo.php file in /usr/share/phpmyadmin.  It doesn't 
work. However, I took the php script I used earlier to connect to 
mysql, added the phpinfo() function to the bottom of the page, 
copied it to /usr/share/phpmyadmin and Apache served the page.  It 
both connected to mysql and served up the php configuration.  It has 
the same permissions that all other files have in that directory


Now, I'm not highly experienced with Apache, but know enough to set 
it up and get it working in most situations, but this just plain old 
has me buffaloed  That Apache will not serve up any of the 
phpmyadmin php pages but will serve up other php pages located in 
the same directory just seems plain old bizarre to me.


I'm sorry if this seems redundant but you're /sure/ all the files 
have the same user and permissions? If that's the case the only thing 
I can think of is to try downloading a fresh copy and installing 
that. That seems strange to me too.





I just set it up here and apparently even though I have a 
config.inc.php file, it was ignoring it anyway.  So I edited 
libraries/config.default.php, added in my host info and wow it works!


 -+-
8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats 
Preferred Techno.



I tried your solution this morning and it didn't change anything 
either. :( 




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Re: phpmyadmin

2007-08-22 Thread Freddy Freeloader


ArcticFox wrote:


On Aug 20, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


Sorry to be so long getting back to you, but I had already tried this 
and you're not going to believe the results
There is a phpinfo.php file in /usr/share/phpmyadmin.  It doesn't 
work.  However, I took the php script I used earlier to connect to 
mysql, added the phpinfo() function to the bottom of the page, copied 
it to /usr/share/phpmyadmin and Apache served the page.  It both 
connected to mysql and served up the php configuration.  It has the 
same permissions that all other files have in that directory


Now, I'm not highly experienced with Apache, but know enough to set 
it up and get it working in most situations, but this just plain old 
has me buffaloed  That Apache will not serve up any of the 
phpmyadmin php pages but will serve up other php pages located in the 
same directory just seems plain old bizarre to me.


I'm sorry if this seems redundant but you're /sure/ all the files have 
the same user and permissions? If that's the case the only thing I can 
think of is to try downloading a fresh copy and installing that. That 
seems strange to me too.



Absolutely positive.  That was one of the first things I checked, and 
then checked again to make sure that the files I have placed in 
/usr/share/phpmyadmin had the same permissions. 



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Re: phpmyadmin

2007-08-20 Thread Freddy Freeloader


ArcticFox wrote:


On Aug 20, 2007, at 8:01 AM, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


ArcticFox wrote:


On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:10 AM, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


ArcticFox wrote:
Have you taken a look at the phpmyadmin site? I had some trouble 
getting it to work on my system too and their was a rather nice 
troubleshooting page there that helped me out.
Yeah, I have.  I've also read the documentation installed in 
/usr/share/phpmyadmin/Documentation.html, and spent quite a while 
with Google too.
I just don't really understand what is going on as the same server 
will serve up other php pages, but phpmyadmin seems only able to 
serve html pages.


You didn't by any chance disable FollowSymlinks did you? In your 
apache config file. The new install of Debian I have phpmyadmin 
worked out of the box.


The other thing to try would be to delete the existing install and 
try installing a fresh copy downloaded from their website.
Nope, didn't disable FollowSymlinks.  This was a fresh Apache and 
phpmyadmin install and it has done this since I installed it.  
Looking at all the config files it "should" work, but it doesn't.


Hum. Try running the index.php file from the command line to make sure 
your PHP processor is working right. If that works create a file (call 
it something like test.php) and put this in it:




then try to access that from your web browser. You should see a huge 
list of
Sorry to be so long getting back to you, but I had already tried this 
and you're not going to believe the results 

There is a phpinfo.php file in /usr/share/phpmyadmin.  It doesn't work.  
However, I took the php script I used earlier to connect to mysql, added 
the phpinfo() function to the bottom of the page, copied it to 
/usr/share/phpmyadmin and Apache served the page.  It both connected to 
mysql and served up the php configuration.  It has the same permissions 
that all other files have in that directory


Now, I'm not highly experienced with Apache, but know enough to set it 
up and get it working in most situations, but this just plain old has me 
buffaloed  That Apache will not serve up any of the phpmyadmin php 
pages but will serve up other php pages located in the same directory 
just seems plain old bizarre to me. 


everything php knows.


On Aug 19, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


Hi All,

I am having a problem with phpmyadmin that is just driving me 
nuts. (I've spent hours troubleshooting and Googling this and 
just cannot come up with a solution. I don't know if this problem 
is misconfiguration or

a bug so I didn't want to turn in a bug report.)

All phpmyadmin will serve is blank pages. (looking at page source 
in a browser shows there is nothing being sent from Apache.  The 
page source is blank.) There are no related errors in the apache2 
logs and I have logging set to "debug" in 
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf.  In fact, calling 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin results in a 200 message in the 
access log.

Here is the output from apache2 -M:

Loaded Modules:
core_module (static)
log_config_module (static)
logio_module (static)
mpm_prefork_module (static)
http_module (static)
so_module (static)
alias_module (shared)
auth_basic_module (shared)
authn_file_module (shared)
authz_default_module (shared)
authz_groupfile_module (shared)
authz_host_module (shared)
authz_user_module (shared)
autoindex_module (shared)
cgi_module (shared)
dir_module (shared)
env_module (shared)
mime_module (shared)
python_module (shared)
negotiation_module (shared)
php5_module (shared)
setenvif_module (shared)
status_module (shared)
Syntax OK

Here is what /var/log/apache2/access.log shows to a call to the 
url http://server_name/phpmyadmin/: 127.0.0.1- - 
[18/Aug/2007:09:23:53 -0700] "GET /phpmyadmin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 - 
"-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X$en-US;$


Well, it line-wrapped and the end of the line is cut off from 
copying and pasting out of nano, but you can see what I mean. All 
calls to phpmyadmin have the same entry in the access log.  I can 
call /phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php and I get exactly the same 
entry in the logs and a blank page.  In fact, I've called pretty 
much all the php files in /usr/share/phpmyadmin and I get exactly 
the same response. I have also enabled all levels of php error 
logging in php.ini and can find no errors there either.


However, if I manually call for 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin/Documentation.html (which is found 
in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ along will the rest of the phpmyadmin 
files it will serve it up.


Starting up wireshark and sniffing packets on the client I see 
the client send the GET command for the appropriate page, I see 
the server acknowledge it with a 200 message, but nothing is ever 
sent from the server in response to calling any of the php files 
in phpmyadmin.
Permissions in /usr/share/phpmyadmin are world readable and all 
subdirectories are wor

Re: phpmyadmin

2007-08-20 Thread Freddy Freeloader


ArcticFox wrote:


On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:10 AM, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


ArcticFox wrote:
Have you taken a look at the phpmyadmin site? I had some trouble 
getting it to work on my system too and their was a rather nice 
troubleshooting page there that helped me out.
Yeah, I have.  I've also read the documentation installed in 
/usr/share/phpmyadmin/Documentation.html, and spent quite a while 
with Google too.
I just don't really understand what is going on as the same server 
will serve up other php pages, but phpmyadmin seems only able to 
serve html pages.


You didn't by any chance disable FollowSymlinks did you? In your 
apache config file. The new install of Debian I have phpmyadmin worked 
out of the box.


The other thing to try would be to delete the existing install and try 
installing a fresh copy downloaded from their website.
Nope, didn't disable FollowSymlinks.  This was a fresh Apache and 
phpmyadmin install and it has done this since I installed it.  Looking 
at all the config files it "should" work, but it doesn't. 



On Aug 19, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


Hi All,

I am having a problem with phpmyadmin that is just driving me nuts. 
(I've spent hours troubleshooting and Googling this and just cannot 
come up with a solution. I don't know if this problem is 
misconfiguration or

a bug so I didn't want to turn in a bug report.)

All phpmyadmin will serve is blank pages. (looking at page source 
in a browser shows there is nothing being sent from Apache.  The 
page source is blank.) There are no related errors in the apache2 
logs and I have logging set to "debug" in 
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf.  In fact, calling 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin results in a 200 message in the 
access log.

Here is the output from apache2 -M:

Loaded Modules:
core_module (static)
log_config_module (static)
logio_module (static)
mpm_prefork_module (static)
http_module (static)
so_module (static)
alias_module (shared)
auth_basic_module (shared)
authn_file_module (shared)
authz_default_module (shared)
authz_groupfile_module (shared)
authz_host_module (shared)
authz_user_module (shared)
autoindex_module (shared)
cgi_module (shared)
dir_module (shared)
env_module (shared)
mime_module (shared)
python_module (shared)
negotiation_module (shared)
php5_module (shared)
setenvif_module (shared)
status_module (shared)
Syntax OK

Here is what /var/log/apache2/access.log shows to a call to the url 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin/: 127.0.0.1- - [18/Aug/2007:09:23:53 
-0700] "GET /phpmyadmin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X$en-US;$


Well, it line-wrapped and the end of the line is cut off from 
copying and pasting out of nano, but you can see what I mean. All 
calls to phpmyadmin have the same entry in the access log.  I can 
call /phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php and I get exactly the same entry 
in the logs and a blank page.  In fact, I've called pretty much all 
the php files in /usr/share/phpmyadmin and I get exactly the same 
response. I have also enabled all levels of php error logging in 
php.ini and can find no errors there either.


However, if I manually call for 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin/Documentation.html (which is found in 
/usr/share/phpmyadmin/ along will the rest of the phpmyadmin files 
it will serve it up.


Starting up wireshark and sniffing packets on the client I see the 
client send the GET command for the appropriate page, I see the 
server acknowledge it with a 200 message, but nothing is ever sent 
from the server in response to calling any of the php files in 
phpmyadmin.
Permissions in /usr/share/phpmyadmin are world readable and all 
subdirectories are world browsable.  User and group are both root.
When connecting via a browser I am asked for a user name and 
password and they are accepted.  I also found a php script on the 
net that would connect directly to mysql-server from a browser page 
and it worked fine.  I was able to successfully connect to mysql.  
I am running mysql 5 and have a sample database installed and can 
successfully query it from a bash prompt.
I am running sid and it is up-to-date as of last night.  So I am 
current with all packages.


Here is the output of dpkg -l | grep apache2, php5, and mysql:

ii  apache2  2.2.4-3Next 
generation, scalable, ext$
ii  apache2-mpm-prefork  2.2.4-3Traditional 
model for Apache H$
ii  apache2-utils2.2.4-3 utility 
programs for webservers
ii  apache2.2-common 2.2.4-3 Next 
generation, scalable, ext$
ii  libapache2-mod-auth-mysql4.3.9-4 Apache 2 
module for MySQL auth$
ii  libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql2.0.3-4+b1  Module for 
Apache2 which provi$
ii  libapache2-mod-perl2 2.0.2-2.4   Integration of 
perl with the A$
ii  libapache2-mod-php5  5.2.3-1+b1  server-side, 
HTM

Re: phpmyadmin

2007-08-19 Thread Freddy Freeloader


ArcticFox wrote:
Have you taken a look at the phpmyadmin site? I had some trouble 
getting it to work on my system too and their was a rather nice 
troubleshooting page there that helped me out.
Yeah, I have.  I've also read the documentation installed in 
/usr/share/phpmyadmin/Documentation.html, and spent quite a while with 
Google too. 

I just don't really understand what is going on as the same server will 
serve up other php pages, but phpmyadmin seems only able to serve html 
pages. 



On Aug 19, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Freddy Freeloader wrote:


Hi All,

I am having a problem with phpmyadmin that is just driving me nuts. 
(I've spent hours troubleshooting and Googling this and just cannot 
come up with a solution. I don't know if this problem is 
misconfiguration or

a bug so I didn't want to turn in a bug report.)

All phpmyadmin will serve is blank pages. (looking at page source in 
a browser shows there is nothing being sent from Apache.  The page 
source is blank.) There are no related errors in the apache2 logs and 
I have logging set to "debug" in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.  In fact, 
calling http://server_name/phpmyadmin results in a 200 message in the 
access log.

Here is the output from apache2 -M:

Loaded Modules:
core_module (static)
log_config_module (static)
logio_module (static)
mpm_prefork_module (static)
http_module (static)
so_module (static)
alias_module (shared)
auth_basic_module (shared)
authn_file_module (shared)
authz_default_module (shared)
authz_groupfile_module (shared)
authz_host_module (shared)
authz_user_module (shared)
autoindex_module (shared)
cgi_module (shared)
dir_module (shared)
env_module (shared)
mime_module (shared)
python_module (shared)
negotiation_module (shared)
php5_module (shared)
setenvif_module (shared)
status_module (shared)
Syntax OK

Here is what /var/log/apache2/access.log shows to a call to the url 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin/: 127.0.0.1- - [18/Aug/2007:09:23:53 
-0700] "GET /phpmyadmin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X$en-US;$


Well, it line-wrapped and the end of the line is cut off from copying 
and pasting out of nano, but you can see what I mean. All calls to 
phpmyadmin have the same entry in the access log.  I can call 
/phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php and I get exactly the same entry in the 
logs and a blank page.  In fact, I've called pretty much all the php 
files in /usr/share/phpmyadmin and I get exactly the same response. I 
have also enabled all levels of php error logging in php.ini and can 
find no errors there either.


However, if I manually call for 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin/Documentation.html (which is found in 
/usr/share/phpmyadmin/ along will the rest of the phpmyadmin files it 
will serve it up.


Starting up wireshark and sniffing packets on the client I see the 
client send the GET command for the appropriate page, I see the 
server acknowledge it with a 200 message, but nothing is ever sent 
from the server in response to calling any of the php files in 
phpmyadmin.
Permissions in /usr/share/phpmyadmin are world readable and all 
subdirectories are world browsable.  User and group are both root.
When connecting via a browser I am asked for a user name and password 
and they are accepted.  I also found a php script on the net that 
would connect directly to mysql-server from a browser page and it 
worked fine.  I was able to successfully connect to mysql.  I am 
running mysql 5 and have a sample database installed and can 
successfully query it from a bash prompt.
I am running sid and it is up-to-date as of last night.  So I am 
current with all packages.


Here is the output of dpkg -l | grep apache2, php5, and mysql:

ii  apache2  2.2.4-3Next generation, 
scalable, ext$
ii  apache2-mpm-prefork  2.2.4-3Traditional model 
for Apache H$
ii  apache2-utils2.2.4-3 utility programs 
for webservers
ii  apache2.2-common 2.2.4-3 Next generation, 
scalable, ext$
ii  libapache2-mod-auth-mysql4.3.9-4 Apache 2 module 
for MySQL auth$
ii  libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql2.0.3-4+b1  Module for 
Apache2 which provi$
ii  libapache2-mod-perl2 2.0.2-2.4   Integration of 
perl with the A$
ii  libapache2-mod-php5  5.2.3-1+b1  server-side, 
HTML-embedded scr$
ii  libapache2-mod-python3.3.1-2 Apache 2 module 
that embeds Py$
ii  libapache2-mod-python-doc3.3.1-1 Apache 2 module 
that embeds Py$
ii  libapache2-mod-php5  5.2.3-1+b1  server-side, 
HTML-embedded scr$
ii  php5 5.2.3-1 server-side, 
HTML-embedded scr$
ii  php5-cgi 5.2.3-1+b1  server-side, 
HTML-embedded scr$
ii  php5-common  5.2.3-1+b1  Common files for 
packages buil$

ii  php5-gd  5.2.3-1+b1

phpmyadmin

2007-08-19 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Hi All,

I am having a problem with phpmyadmin that is just driving me nuts. 
(I've spent hours troubleshooting and Googling this and just cannot come 
up with a solution. I don't know if this problem is misconfiguration or

a bug so I didn't want to turn in a bug report.)

All phpmyadmin will serve is blank pages. (looking at page source in a 
browser shows there is nothing being sent from Apache.  The page source 
is blank.) There are no related errors in the apache2 logs and I have 
logging set to "debug" in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.  In fact, calling 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin results in a 200 message in the access log. 


Here is the output from apache2 -M:

Loaded Modules:
core_module (static)
log_config_module (static)
logio_module (static)
mpm_prefork_module (static)
http_module (static)
so_module (static)
alias_module (shared)
auth_basic_module (shared)
authn_file_module (shared)
authz_default_module (shared)
authz_groupfile_module (shared)
authz_host_module (shared)
authz_user_module (shared)
autoindex_module (shared)
cgi_module (shared)
dir_module (shared)
env_module (shared)
mime_module (shared)
python_module (shared)
negotiation_module (shared)
php5_module (shared)
setenvif_module (shared)
status_module (shared)
Syntax OK

Here is what /var/log/apache2/access.log shows to a call to the url 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin/: 127.0.0.1- - [18/Aug/2007:09:23:53 
-0700] "GET /phpmyadmin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X$en-US;$


Well, it line-wrapped and the end of the line is cut off from copying 
and pasting out of nano, but you can see what I mean. All calls to 
phpmyadmin have the same entry in the access log.  I can call 
/phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php and I get exactly the same entry in the 
logs and a blank page.  In fact, I've called pretty much all the php 
files in /usr/share/phpmyadmin and I get exactly the same response. I 
have also enabled all levels of php error logging in php.ini and can 
find no errors there either.


However, if I manually call for 
http://server_name/phpmyadmin/Documentation.html (which is found in 
/usr/share/phpmyadmin/ along will the rest of the phpmyadmin files it 
will serve it up.


Starting up wireshark and sniffing packets on the client I see the 
client send the GET command for the appropriate page, I see the server 
acknowledge it with a 200 message, but nothing is ever sent from the 
server in response to calling any of the php files in phpmyadmin. 

Permissions in /usr/share/phpmyadmin are world readable and all 
subdirectories are world browsable.  User and group are both root. 

When connecting via a browser I am asked for a user name and password 
and they are accepted.  I also found a php script on the net that would 
connect directly to mysql-server from a browser page and it worked 
fine.  I was able to successfully connect to mysql.  I am running mysql 
5 and have a sample database installed and can successfully query it 
from a bash prompt. 

I am running sid and it is up-to-date as of last night.  So I am current 
with all packages.


Here is the output of dpkg -l | grep apache2, php5, and mysql:

ii  apache2  2.2.4-3Next generation, 
scalable, ext$
ii  apache2-mpm-prefork  2.2.4-3Traditional model 
for Apache H$
ii  apache2-utils2.2.4-3 utility programs 
for webservers
ii  apache2.2-common 2.2.4-3 Next generation, 
scalable, ext$
ii  libapache2-mod-auth-mysql4.3.9-4 Apache 2 module for 
MySQL auth$
ii  libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql2.0.3-4+b1  Module for Apache2 
which provi$
ii  libapache2-mod-perl2 2.0.2-2.4   Integration of perl 
with the A$
ii  libapache2-mod-php5  5.2.3-1+b1  server-side, 
HTML-embedded scr$
ii  libapache2-mod-python3.3.1-2 Apache 2 module 
that embeds Py$
ii  libapache2-mod-python-doc3.3.1-1 Apache 2 module 
that embeds Py$
ii  libapache2-mod-php5  5.2.3-1+b1  server-side, 
HTML-embedded scr$
ii  php5 5.2.3-1 server-side, 
HTML-embedded scr$
ii  php5-cgi 5.2.3-1+b1  server-side, 
HTML-embedded scr$
ii  php5-common  5.2.3-1+b1  Common files for 
packages buil$

ii  php5-gd  5.2.3-1+b1  GD module for php5
ii  php5-mcrypt  5.2.3-1+b1  MCrypt module for php5
ii  php5-mysql   5.2.3-1+b1  MySQL module for php5
ii  php5-pgsql   5.2.3-1+b1  PostgreSQL module 
for php5
ii  libapache2-mod-auth-mysql4.3.9-4 Apache 2 module for 
MySQL auth$
ii  libdbd-mysql-perl4.005-1 A Perl5 database 
interface to $
ii  libmysqlclient15off  5.0.45-1 MySQL database 
client library
ii  mysql-client-5.0 5.0.45-1 MySQL database 
client binaries
ii  mysql-common

Re: Am I missing something in my understanding here?

2007-06-18 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Bob Proulx wrote:

Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
The first time I run "/etc/init.d/networking restart" after a reboot I 
get the same message I would if I ran "ifdown eth0" about eth0 releasing 
its dhcp address, and I no longer have network connectivity, i.e. the 
/etc/init.d/networking script does not seem to call ifup -a to restart 
all network connections.  (I have only one nic on this computer.)  To 
get network connectivity back I must manually run "ifup etho". 



The problem is rooted in Bug#300937.  It is about how to handle
hotplug network devices.

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=300937

The default Etch installation configures networking such as you are
seeing now.  But let's back into it from the side.  The configuration
is:

  allow-hotplug eth0

You noted "ifup -a".  But /etc/init.d/networking does call ifup -a.
But looking at the man page for ifup shows:

   -a, --all
  If given to ifup, affect all interfaces marked auto.

So 'ifup -a' only brings up interfaces marked auto but a default Etch
installation sets all interfaces to allow-hotplug.  Now you can see
why restarting networking does not bring up networking.

And in the man page for interfaces it says:

   Lines beginning with the word "auto" are used to identify the
   physical interfaces to be brought up when ifup is run with the
   -a option.  (This option is used by the system boot scripts.)
   ...
   Lines beginning with "allow-" are used to identify interfaces
   that should be brought up automatically by various
   subsytems. This may be done using a command such as "ifup
   --allow=hotplug eth0 eth1", which will only bring up eth0 or
   eth1 if it is listed in an "allow-hotplug" line.

  
My question is, is this behavior by design, or have I stumbled across a 
bug? 



I don't know the full history behind this but looking at the
Bug#300937 I assume the design is that network events are now moved
from boot time action to network event time action to support hotplug
network interfaces.  Looking in /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz I
see:

  After receiving events about network interfaces, net.agent will call
  ifupdown using the --allow=hotplug option. This makes the program act
  only on interfaces marked with the "allow-hotplug" statement.
  E.g: "allow-hotplug eth0" instead of the usual "auto eth0".

I have not researched further what it would take to trigger udev to
restart networking but I presume there is a path through it that would
do so.  To return to the previous behavior you may change the
allow-hotplug stanzas into auto stanzas and then restarting networking
will restart the network interface.  I would welcome further
information on this area.

Bob


  


Thanks for your answer, Bob.  Changing allow-hotplug to auto did change 
the behavior, and I now have a better understanding of how all this works. 



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Am I missing something in my understanding here?

2007-06-15 Thread Freddy Freeloader

The first time I run "/etc/init.d/networking restart" after a reboot I 
get the same message I would if I ran "ifdown eth0" about eth0 releasing 
its dhcp address, and I no longer have network connectivity, i.e. the 
/etc/init.d/networking script does not seem to call ifup -a to restart 
all network connections.  (I have only one nic on this computer.)  To 
get network connectivity back I must manually run "ifup etho". 

However, ever after that first time event running 
"/etc/init.d/networking restart" I get the message "reconfiguring 
network interfaces" but no ifdown or ifup messages showing the releasing 
and acquiring of an ip address through dhcp.  If I run "ifdown eth0" at 
this point it tells me that eth0 is not configured, but I have network 
connectivity and ifconfig -a confirms that eth0 is configured.


If I run "/etc/init.d/networking stop" I get the correct message that 
eth0 is releasing its dhcp address.  However, then running 
"/etc/init.d/networking start" does not run ifup on eth0 as eth0 remains 
unconfigured, although I receive the message that the network interfaces 
have been successfully reconfigured.  I must manually run ifup eth0 to 
configure it again and regain network connectivity.


My question is, is this behavior by design, or have I stumbled across a 
bug? 

I'm running an up-to-date Sid install. 



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Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-22 Thread Freddy Freeloader

On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 22:49 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 10:59:01 -0400
> Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Monday 21 May 2007, Celejar wrote:
> > > On Sat, 19 May 2007 17:02:01 +0200
> > > "M. Fioretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > This is why I'm posting also this reply to the moderators. I really
> > > > hope they put a stop to this, this time.
> > >
> > > As people have pointed out; this is exactly the issue. There *are no*
> > > moderators! d-u is (currently) unmoderated (listmasters aren't
> > > [necessarily] moderators). I have no problem with people requesting a
> > > change, but as it exists now, it's an unmoderated list.
> > 
> > I don't know what the term is, but within the past year or so there was 
> > an issue that came up with some quite heated discussions that involved 
> > criticism of Debian or some part of it and someone stepped in and 
> > delayed any posts on that thread for 24 hours.
> > 
> > How was that done without moderation (or moderation by any other name)?
> 
> I have heard of that, although I don't know anything about it.
> Obviously someone was doing some moderating at that time, but I still
> don't think that that makes the list, in general, a moderated list. It
> goes without saying that any list *can* be moderated; after all,
> *someone* has root access on the list servers! The question is whether
> the list rules and code of conduct specify moderation, and whether
> there is, in practice, any actual, sustained moderation.
> 
> > Hal
> 
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> 

This is not a direct reply to anyone.  It is just something that I
thought should be pointed out.  

There are many people here who assume that they should be able to
control what everyone has to talk about.  Yeah, you guys may not like
off-topic posts, but the heat I hear about this just makes no sense to
me.  

Calling the off-topic posts on this mailing list offensive is just plain
nuts.  You want to see offensive?  Take a look at the following link to
a thread from a Windows forum.  It is truly offensive, not just
something some people decide they want to call threads offensive because
they don't like some of the points of view expressed, because of some
off-color joke, or just because they are tired of dealing with volume of
posts.

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?p=2455305#post2455305

Could OT posting be reduced? Yes, but get some sense of perspective
people.

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Re: getting a new Debian box

2007-05-19 Thread Freddy Freeloader


Greg Folkert wrote:

On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 21:51 -0700, Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
  

Hi All!

I've been using Debian with my desktop replacement laptop HP Pavilion
zv5260 for about 2 years now. This was the only computer I had for about
2.5 years. I got tired of using the laptop constantly. I want something
more convenient with a bigger screen and that I can use more
comfortably.

So I decided to get a desktop. I need some advices.


[snippage]
  


Dell Dimension E521N:   AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4000+


[snippage]
  

TOTAL:$689.00


Are there any other desktop computers I should consider buying instead
of this one? Is there any configuration part I should consider changing?
Should I upgrade to 2 GB of RAM ? 1GB seems to be enough for me, since I
am using now etch on my laptop with 512MB and I don't see any problems.
In general e521n seems to be enough for etch and everything I use, since
I am running a 2.5 year old laptop and I don't see any real performance
issues. But again, I am open to advices.

I googled e521n and debian and found out that there was a problem with
usb malfunction that froze mouse but that it was solved with the new
bios update released by Dell in January, 2007. I didn't find any other
issues. Everything else seems to work in Debian.

So if somebody here is using this model with Debian, please, provide
feedback. Do you have any issues? Something to be aware before bying it?
Any compatibility issues with Debian? I would prefer to install on it
Debian Stable (Etch) that goes with linux kernel 2.6.18
Will I be able to do that? Or I will need new kernel 2.6.20 from
unstable?



If you wait until May24th, Dell will be shipping Desktops and Laptops
with Ubuntu Linux pre-installed on them. Everything will work on them. I
believe the same model you just quoted.

Similar prices too.
  
I believe the correct model number is the XPS 421, not the 521.   At 
least that is what was posted on Groklaw. 



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Re: ntfs read-write

2007-04-28 Thread Freddy Freeloader


somethin2cool wrote:

Joe Hart wrote:

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somethin2cool wrote:

Answer to this one:  ntfs-3g.  It works.  But, never trust anything to
work with an undocumented file system.  Frequent backups are a good 
idea.


Reformatting the ntfs drive is a better idea, but your Windows might
complain ;)

Joe


Good advice, but a good tool to have around nonetheless.

You wouldn't advise captive since it controls the official driver?

Thanks




Well, I don't use ntfs, but I used to, and I know the ntfs-3g works and
the captive is not recommended by people much more familiar with it than
myself for writing.  It works fine reading.

Back when I still had windows, I created a fat32 partition and used that
to share, but since then I have reclaimed the space that Windows was
using and changed it so that Windows runs in a VM so I can still access
windows programs if I have to, but no longer have to reboot to do it.
Now I can just run Windows in a Window.  I use Virtual Box for that.

Joe

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That sounds like where I'm heading. I have a FAT32 partition for the 
interim, but my target is not just for my own data storage, but to be 
able to use other hdd's that are connected as slaves in the future. 
For that I need a reliable NTFS write driver.


My understanding of attitudes toward Captive is that it follows the 
lines of "we hate it because it just wraps a microsoft driver and is 
thus evil. it should have been written from scratch". Something which 
I am not concerned about. And logically speaking, this idea ought to 
be the most reliable.


I will look into both and post my findings (assuming i get them working)


I have a lot of files left over from my Windows days that are stored on 
ntfs partitions and I have found ntfs-3g to be really reliable.  I never 
could get captive to work nearly as reliably as I have ntfs-3g.  It's 
basically just install and go.



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Re: oddity in apt-cache

On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 23:11 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 13:47:50 -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> > Florian Kulzer wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >> I think many people would not like it if apt-cache no longer found the
> >> local packages, custom kernels, etc. If a package is still installed
> >> then its information is included in apt's package cache, and "apt-cache"
> >> bases all its results on this cache. It does not query the repositories
> >> at all but it gets this information indirectly whenever you run "apt-get
> >> update" (or aptitude, etc.).
> >>
> >> If you want to run queries on what is available in the repositories you
> >> will probably have to use "apt-file" or "rmadison" (from package
> >> "devscripts").
> >>
> >>   
> > Thanks Florian,
> >
> > I guess, then, I just use "apt-cache search" differently than most people 
> > do, or even the way it was intended to be used.  I use it to find available 
> > packages and it has always worked for me until today as I usually run 
> > apt-get update on a daily basis.  I have never even thought of using it to 
> > find something installed locally because to me it makes no sense to use it 
> > that way as it gives you no way to know if a package is installed.  If I 
> > want to find out if something is locally installed I use "dpkg -l | grep 
> > relevant_string".   That tells me the package's installation status.
> 
> [...]
> 
> I think I did not make myself very clear: I also use apt-cache like you
> do (mostly since it seems to be faster than "aptitude search" for simple
> queries). I don't think that there is anything wrong with that; you just
> have to be aware that all installed packages are also included in the
> search, even if some of them have meanwhile been removed from the
> repositories.
> 
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>   Florian   |
> 
> 

OK.  What threw me was when you brought up people using apt-cache  to
track packages such as custom built kernels.  I would have never thought
of using apt-cache for such a task.  dpkg is the only tool I would have
even considered using.  


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Re: oddity in apt-cache


Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 11:34:21AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

Florian Kulzer wrote:


On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 08:08:22 -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
 
  
Does this mean that apt-cache reads the local database + the server 
repositories rather than the just the server repositories?  I tend to 
see that as a bug, not a feature, as it leads people, such as me, to 
believe a package which was installed at some time in the past on the 
local machine still exists in the repositories when it has, in fact, 
been removed.   



Sorry to interrupt, but I'm wondering what aptitude show shows?

Doug.


  
Good question. 



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Re: oddity in apt-cache


Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 11:34:21 -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

Florian Kulzer wrote:


On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 08:08:22 -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
  
I have three separate machines that have identical entries in 
/etc/apt/sources.list.  All were updated and upgraded this morning as a 
result of troubleshooting this issue.  On machine #1 I can apt-cache show 
nhfsstone and it returns the expected data on nhfsstone.  On machines 2 
and 3 it tells me that the nhfsstone package cannot be found.  Running 
apt-cache search nfs on all machines yeilds similar results.  Machine #1 
has nhfsstone included in the result set.  Machines 2 and 3 do not. All 
machines are pointed to: deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian sid main 
contrib non-free. This just makes absolutely no sense to me.  I'm 
pointing all three to the same set of repositories and yet two machines 
cannot find a software package the other machine finds.   I realize that 
all machines may not see exactly the same server every time, but to have 
a package being found on one machine and missing on two others seems very 
strange.


Can anyone explain this anomaly this to me? 


It seems to me that nhfsstone is no longer in Sid.

My guess is that machine #1 has it only as a local package. What is the
output of "apt-cache policy nhfsstone" on this machine?

  
  

Thanks Florian,

It is reported as installed, which it is.  However, since it was installed 
and the present time I have run "apt-get clean" so the package no longer 
exists in the local apt archives. 



But it is still listed by apt-cache as "100 /var/lib/dpkg/status" for
the currently installed version, right?

  
Does this mean that apt-cache reads the local database + the server 
repositories rather than the just the server repositories?  I tend to see 
that as a bug, not a feature, as it leads people, such as me, to believe a 
package which was installed at some time in the past on the local machine 
still exists in the repositories when it has, in fact, been removed.   



I think many people would not like it if apt-cache no longer found the
local packages, custom kernels, etc. If a package is still installed
then its information is included in apt's package cache, and "apt-cache"
bases all its results on this cache. It does not query the repositories
at all but it gets this information indirectly whenever you run "apt-get
update" (or aptitude, etc.).

If you want to run queries on what is available in the repositories you
will probably have to use "apt-file" or "rmadison" (from package
"devscripts").

  

Thanks Florian,

I guess, then, I just use "apt-cache search" differently than most 
people do, or even the way it was intended to be used.  I use it to find 
available packages and it has always worked for me until today as I 
usually run apt-get update on a daily basis.  I have never even thought 
of using it to find something installed locally because to me it makes 
no sense to use it that way as it gives you no way to know if a package 
is installed.  If I want to find out if something is locally installed I 
use "dpkg -l | grep relevant_string".   That tells me the package's 
installation status.


I guess I should have realized that apt-cache does search locally 
because of the results returned using "apt-cache policy", which I used 
to use a fair amount, but not regularly anymore because I no longer use 
apt-pinning.  For some reason it just didn't occur to me though.  I just 
assumed that the search and policy options worked differently.  My bad 
for not firing up a sniffer to see exactly how they worked. 



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Re: oddity in apt-cache


Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 08:08:22 -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  
I have three separate machines that have identical entries in 
/etc/apt/sources.list.  All were updated and upgraded this morning as a 
result of troubleshooting this issue.  On machine #1 I can apt-cache show 
nhfsstone and it returns the expected data on nhfsstone.  On machines 2 and 
3 it tells me that the nhfsstone package cannot be found.  Running 
apt-cache search nfs on all machines yeilds similar results.  Machine #1 
has nhfsstone included in the result set.  Machines 2 and 3 do not. 
All machines are pointed to: deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian sid main 
contrib non-free. 
This just makes absolutely no sense to me.  I'm pointing all three to the 
same set of repositories and yet two machines cannot find a software 
package the other machine finds.   I realize that all machines may not see 
exactly the same server every time, but to have a package being found on 
one machine and missing on two others seems very strange.


Can anyone explain this anomaly this to me? 



It seems to me that nhfsstone is no longer in Sid.

My guess is that machine #1 has it only as a local package. What is the
output of "apt-cache policy nhfsstone" on this machine?

  

Thanks Florian,

It is reported as installed, which it is.  However, since it was 
installed and the present time I have run "apt-get clean" so the package 
no longer exists in the local apt archives. 

Does this mean that apt-cache reads the local database + the server 
repositories rather than the just the server repositories?  I tend to 
see that as a bug, not a feature, as it leads people, such as me, to 
believe a package which was installed at some time in the past on the 
local machine still exists in the repositories when it has, in fact, 
been removed.   



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Re: oddity in apt-cache


Joe Hart wrote:

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Freddy Freeloader wrote:
  

I have three separate machines that have identical entries in
/etc/apt/sources.list.  All were updated and upgraded this morning as a
result of troubleshooting this issue.  On machine #1 I can apt-cache
show nhfsstone and it returns the expected data on nhfsstone.  On
machines 2 and 3 it tells me that the nhfsstone package cannot be
found.  Running apt-cache search nfs on all machines yeilds similar
results.  Machine #1 has nhfsstone included in the result set.  Machines
2 and 3 do not.
All machines are pointed to: deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian sid
main contrib non-free.
This just makes absolutely no sense to me.  I'm pointing all three to
the same set of repositories and yet two machines cannot find a software
package the other machine finds.   I realize that all machines may not
see exactly the same server every time, but to have a package being
found on one machine and missing on two others seems very strange.

Can anyone explain this anomaly this to me?




You are correct, it makes no sense.  Do all three machines have the same
access point to the Internet?  Is perhaps a firewall in between blocking
something?  That's the only reason I can think of that one machine will
work and the others will not.

Joe

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Hi Joe,

All three machines are on the same subnet, use the same router, the same 
gateway, and the same firewall.  

I couldn't believe this when I first found it so I ran apt-get update && 
apt-get upgrade on all three within a matter of 10 minutes total time 
and the symptom still persisted.  Two of the machines started life as 
Sarge and have been up and running a minimum of 2 years.  The other is 
my laptop that had a fresh install of Etch and moved to Sid a month or 
so ago.  The machine that can see nhfsstone is the oldest install of all 
the machines.  Its install dates to some time in 2004.



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